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00:19.05 | waltercool | someone know how fix that?? i have a BIG fonts and the focus is given for the mouse :S |
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00:21.23 | waltercool | someone? |
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00:58.55 | w00tnation | can someone tell me where the k3b channel is (if it exists)? |
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01:02.46 | w00tnation | well, I'll ask my simple question anyway... I noticed a 'sort weight' option in k3b, but when I change values the files are still sorted by name/size or whatever tab it is using... does this only take effect on burn? |
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01:09.28 | derek_ | w00tnation: there is a way of simulating a burn. try it. |
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01:26.36 | w00tnation | yeah, but it doesn't appear to say what files its burning, and if its just a simulation what do I check to see what it actually did? |
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01:33.08 | ZEUS^^ | after updating to lates kde 3.5.8-7 some weird things happened to my ktray at the end of right side some of empty space between tray icons also some of my custom settings not working anymore and in the kde start menu some of upper most used lists icons disapeared any solution for this ? I`m on fedora7_x86 64 with kmod nvidia beryl |
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02:09.23 | nitos | hi, i ve got an issue with compiz-fusion instalation on sabayon 3.3 |
02:10.47 | arrrghhh | so i'm trying to run xfce4-notes-plugin in kde... i went to 'add non-kde application' to the panel and put in where i thought the executable for that applet should be... is there something special i need to do to get this to run in kde? |
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02:15.33 | Roey | hey thar |
02:16.51 | Roey | can anyone help me debug an issue with my scrollwheel? It's not responding (or rather, it gets interpreted as a side-scroll action, since I have a logitech mx1000). For a fresh ~/.kde, the scrollwheel works fine. For Fluxbox, the scrollwheel works fine, too. What the heck is going on here? |
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02:42.11 | flaccid | i click on a window behind another window, it doesn't give focus, how can i fix? |
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02:43.04 | arrrghhh | flaccid: focus stealing prevention in the window behavior settings under system settings |
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02:44.55 | Roey | arrrghhh: how do I prevent an app (like, say, koqnueror) from stealing my desktop focus? |
02:45.05 | Roey | it whisks me to its own desktop whenever I start it. |
02:45.18 | arrrghhh | uhm |
02:45.28 | arrrghhh | that *might* be part of the focus stealing prevention settings... |
02:45.40 | arrrghhh | it only has settings from 'none' to 'extreme' |
02:45.43 | Roey | that is, if I start up Konqueror and then move to a different desktop as it loads... it'll whisk me back to its desktop when its window appears |
02:46.08 | arrrghhh | oh i see what you're talking about... you can force it to goto a specific desktop |
02:46.13 | arrrghhh | always |
02:47.02 | Roey | arrrghhh: well that yeah but I just don't want it to whisk me back and forth |
02:47.04 | Roey | every time |
02:47.07 | arrrghhh | but whatever desktop you start the program on it'll want to goto that desktop (unless you have 'special window settings' configured) |
02:47.11 | flaccid | thanks arrrghhh |
02:47.15 | arrrghhh | np |
02:47.27 | Roey | arrrghhh: well, let's see, which special window settings shoudl I set? |
02:47.39 | Roey | I wnat it to load up /in the background/ :) |
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02:47.49 | tomaz | how can i find the config file for the taskbar? |
02:47.51 | arrrghhh | that depends... is there one particular desktop you want konquorer to go to always? |
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02:48.24 | arrrghhh | tomaz: it's probably in /home/$USER/.kde/ somewhere... |
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02:50.02 | tomaz | found it. arrrghhh, can i ask you a favor? it seems that fedora has removed the combo box for `dont show windows from all desktops` , so i wanna put this on the config file by hand. |
02:50.27 | arrrghhh | tomaz: ah... i use ubuntu... |
02:51.17 | tomaz | if it's not trouble, can you active this, and give me the line on the ~/.kde/share/config/ktaskbarrc |
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02:51.32 | tomaz | the config line is the same, in ubuntu or fedora. |
02:51.46 | arrrghhh | what's that |
02:52.03 | tomaz | that is the config file for the taskbar |
02:52.57 | arrrghhh | do you know what file it is? cuz i don't, i was just pointing you in the direction i figured it would be! |
02:53.10 | lucas | anyone got release date for kde4 rc1? |
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02:53.53 | tomaz | it is ~/.kde/share/config/ktaskbarrc |
02:53.58 | arrrghhh | lucas: whatever release schedule they have online is probably any more than people would know here... |
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02:54.31 | lucas | arrrghhh: ok |
02:54.39 | arrrghhh | tomaz: pretty bare file... i have it open |
02:54.49 | tomaz | ShowAllWindow = true |
02:54.51 | tomaz | arra |
02:54.52 | tomaz | = |
02:54.54 | tomaz | =D |
02:55.27 | arrrghhh | que? |
02:55.57 | tomaz | the option = ShowAllWindows=false |
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02:58.47 | flaccid | sweet that worked arrrghhh with compiz-fusion running |
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03:02.59 | arrrghhh | flaccid: yea it's a global o/s setting... np |
03:04.29 | flaccid | ah thats cool |
03:04.48 | flaccid | it feels good to have control of your windows |
03:06.00 | arrrghhh | indeed |
03:06.22 | arrrghhh | i set it on extreme just to see... it was indeed, extreme. |
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03:10.08 | Lazarus | hey I have a strange issue with kde |
03:10.21 | Lazarus | it wont load if i run dhclient |
03:10.40 | Lazarus | just hangs at the spash screen and the harddrive just blinks |
03:10.44 | Lazarus | any ideas? |
03:10.59 | arrrghhh | have you tried reinstalling dhclient? |
03:11.03 | ZEUS^^ | After updating to lates kde 3.5.8-7 some weird things happened to my ktray at the end of right side some of empty space between tray icons also some of my custom settings not working anymore and in the kde start menu some of upper most used lists icons disapeared any solution for this ? I`m on fedora7_x86 64 with kmod nvidia beryl |
03:11.45 | Lazarus | yeah |
03:11.51 | Lazarus | i don't think thats it though |
03:11.58 | Lazarus | i checked the hostfile |
03:12.03 | Lazarus | only thing in there is localhost |
03:12.25 | Lazarus | does kde look for hostname or try to resolve it on load? |
03:12.37 | arrrghhh | if it's dhcp |
03:12.40 | arrrghhh | i think it'll resolve on load |
03:12.50 | Lazarus | hmm yeah its dhcp |
03:12.58 | Lazarus | wonder why it hangs |
03:13.05 | Lazarus | ill have to browse the forums some more |
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03:14.50 | Lazarus | should resolv.conf have localhost listed in there? |
03:14.50 | Lazarus | ? |
03:16.39 | arrrghhh | laz |
03:16.46 | arrrghhh | Lazarus: mine doesn't |
03:16.54 | Lazarus | hmm |
03:16.57 | Lazarus | this is just weird |
03:17.09 | Lazarus | ... |
03:17.21 | arrrghhh | although mine does have some stuff written in it that must've been received by my isp |
03:17.29 | arrrghhh | and my router |
03:17.37 | Lazarus | yeah mine has that stuff too |
03:17.38 | arrrghhh | but nothing referencing localhost |
03:17.48 | derek_ | Lazarus: do you have any nameservers listed there? |
03:17.51 | Lazarus | its gotta be something really simple |
03:17.55 | Lazarus | yeah nameservers are listed there |
03:18.15 | Lazarus | and a search |
03:19.44 | Lazarus | I don't have a swap file... thats about the only diff from most linux distros |
03:20.00 | arrrghhh | why don't you have a swap? that shouldn't affect this but yea... |
03:20.44 | Lazarus | im running it off a usb stick |
03:20.48 | derek_ | Lazarus: look at startkde in the kde bin folder. It is a script and you can see what it's doing |
03:20.52 | Lazarus | w/ encrypted partions |
03:21.00 | Lazarus | partitions* |
03:21.05 | Lazarus | k |
03:22.00 | arrrghhh | oh i see |
03:22.05 | Lazarus | feraga.com |
03:22.25 | Lazarus | im doing a variation with LinuxFromScratch |
03:22.40 | Lazarus | so it could eaisly be something im fucking up |
03:22.48 | Lazarus | or forgot to do |
03:23.08 | Lazarus | but it boots off the usb stick completely |
03:23.19 | Lazarus | 8GB jump drive i baught from the source by circuit city |
03:23.33 | derek_ | Lazarus: Is it possible to run a script in a debugger, ie. run startkde and see where it borks? |
03:23.34 | Lazarus | but so far... its pretty sweet |
03:23.43 | Lazarus | should be |
03:24.03 | Lazarus | the other option is just to startkde and then run the dhclient] |
03:24.10 | Lazarus | instead of at boot |
03:24.32 | arrrghhh | what is in the /etc/network/interfaces file? |
03:24.41 | arrrghhh | or is that different for fedora... |
03:24.53 | derek_ | Lazarus: is lo getting set up or borked? |
03:25.06 | Lazarus | lol |
03:25.09 | Lazarus | there is nothing i nthere |
03:25.11 | Lazarus | its blank |
03:25.15 | Lazarus | whats in yours? |
03:25.15 | arrrghhh | yea |
03:25.17 | arrrghhh | you at least need lo |
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03:25.34 | Lazarus | can u paste it to me or give me yers in a pastebin |
03:25.34 | Lazarus | ? |
03:25.55 | Lazarus | i might actually just turn this into a new distro |
03:26.00 | Lazarus | and throw it up on bsrf.org |
03:26.03 | arrrghhh | just "auto lo <cr> iface lo inet loopback" |
03:26.09 | arrrghhh | <cr> = carriage return |
03:26.27 | Lazarus | is that with or without the quotes? |
03:26.35 | arrrghhh | w/o |
03:26.51 | arrrghhh | and don't actually put the "<cr>" |
03:26.55 | Lazarus | k |
03:27.00 | Lazarus | what is carriage return |
03:27.16 | arrrghhh | enter |
03:27.18 | arrrghhh | return |
03:27.29 | Lazarus | oh |
03:27.33 | Lazarus | so next line |
03:27.55 | arrrghhh | ja |
03:28.07 | Lazarus | hopefully this works |
03:28.10 | arrrghhh | i'm sure there's a better way to represent that... it's just what came to mind |
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03:28.24 | Lazarus | yeah |
03:28.25 | arrrghhh | you can setup eth0 with "auto eth0 <cr> iface eth0 inet dhcp" |
03:28.41 | Lazarus | hmm |
03:28.49 | Lazarus | k |
03:28.52 | arrrghhh | although you shouldn't need those lines |
03:29.02 | arrrghhh | i have them commented out |
03:29.07 | Lazarus | k |
03:30.05 | Lazarus | i just have to wait till flash finishes downloading |
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04:16.24 | linux_stu | i was told kde's .0 releases aren't historically very good |
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05:02.50 | AmyRose | Should I report this not working in Konquero to the webmaster or to the KDE bugzilla? http://spyed.deviantart.com/gallery/ |
05:03.16 | AmyRose | *Konqueror |
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05:14.41 | arrrghhh | what does "allow programs in desktop window" mean? |
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05:46.00 | arrrghhh | what does "allow programs in desktop window" mean? and how can i utilize it? |
05:48.59 | Jucato | arrrghhh: press Shift+F1 (or click on the ? icon in the window titlebar) and click on the option for a short description |
05:51.15 | Vasistha | so ... thus far I have this: dcop kmail 'kmail-composer#1' action attach /path/to/my/file |
05:51.29 | Vasistha | ...but I get "arguments do not match" ... any ideas of how to make this work? |
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05:55.50 | arrrghhh | Jucato: but that doesn't tell you how to use it... |
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05:56.58 | Jucato | arrrghhh: see the Advanced Options button there? click on it and you will be able to set a program to use for the background. that's as far as I know about it |
05:57.34 | Jucato | arrrghhh: you can see the Help page about those options (click on the Help button) |
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07:01.24 | ultrav1olet | How can I use kwallet to impersonate as a root user in a system? It looks like konsole has now idea how to use it. |
07:02.17 | Vasistha | ultrav1olet: I don't understand your question ... what are you trying to do? |
07:03.51 | ultrav1olet | I have a kwallet. I do no want to enter my root password ever in konsole when I want to `su -`. I'd like konsole to use kwallet. |
07:04.04 | ultrav1olet | That's it. |
07:05.08 | Vasistha | ohhhh |
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07:05.20 | ultrav1olet | I don't even care if it is konsole or any other application, I just want to have a root terminal without entering root password. |
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07:05.48 | Vasistha | ultrav1olet: I have no idea if that is possible with kwallet; however, have you considered using 'sudo' ? |
07:06.53 | ultrav1olet | It's a nice idea, but sudo doesn't depend on kwallet. Thus if I leave my session unlocked then any person can use sudo and compromise my system |
07:07.21 | Vasistha | I believe you have to type your user password when you use sudo |
07:08.13 | ultrav1olet | Vasistha: at my home I have set sudo the way it doesn't require a password - yeah, it's a nice idea. thank you! |
07:08.37 | Vasistha | ultrav1olet: ahha! so you just need to set it the other way :D |
07:08.41 | ultrav1olet | Here, at my work I will make sudo ask for a user password ;-) |
07:08.50 | ultrav1olet | thank you |
07:09.18 | Vasistha | np |
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07:09.46 | ultrav1olet | Vasistha: the last question - how can I disable root password alltogether? |
07:10.24 | Vasistha | ultrav1olet: I don't know if it's technically possible; however I'm pretty sure that what ubuntu does is to set it to a long random string :) |
07:12.06 | ultrav1olet | Vasistha: OK ;-) |
07:14.08 | ultrav1olet | "ultrav1olet ALL=(ALL) ALL" doesn't even try to ask my user password :-( |
07:14.09 | Vasistha | ultrav1olet: I suppose if you want to have some real fun, you could probably manually edit the /etc/shadow file and put some random junk in root's password ... I have no idea if that would be a good idea or not! |
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07:14.53 | ultrav1olet | Vasistha: passwd -d root - is all you need |
07:15.50 | ultrav1olet | Any ideas how to make sudo ask for my user password? |
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07:16.23 | ultrav1olet | ok PASSWD: will be enough |
07:16.57 | ultrav1olet | not enough :-( |
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07:20.09 | Vasistha | ultrav1olet: man sudoers |
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07:22.20 | ultrav1olet | Vasistha: OK. "ALL=PASSWD: ALL" and `passwd -l root` have done everything I needed |
07:23.05 | Vasistha | ultrav1olet: cool :) I've never used sudo, myself, glad it's working for you |
07:24.14 | ultrav1olet | I am a security paranoid. Don't pay too much attention ;-) |
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07:56.45 | ultrav1olet | https://launchpad.net/kdesudo might be aslo useful ;-) |
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09:02.50 | christian_ | hi |
09:03.11 | christian_ | can anybody tell me, in what languages most kde apps are written? |
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09:03.27 | christian_ | and if they are written with qt? |
09:03.32 | Jejem | christian_: C++/Qt |
09:03.45 | christian_ | thank you very much |
09:03.53 | annma | C++ |
09:04.00 | annma | Qt is C++ but there are kdebindings to other languages |
09:04.08 | christian_ | i want to write one for me, and so I want to use the most used one |
09:04.36 | annma | C++ |
09:04.46 | christian_ | i know there are also bindings for java and so on, but I think most use C++ |
09:08.14 | christian_ | thank you very much, good bye have a nice day! |
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09:15.56 | annma | lol |
09:16.06 | annma | wow, the sommersault! |
09:16.17 | Jucato | yep... :) |
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09:26.52 | vbgunz | I am thinking of seriously giving Debian Etch a try. Does anyone know of a walkthrough on how to compile or get the latest KDE on there? |
09:27.09 | JohnFlux | vbgunz: google? |
09:27.09 | annma | the usual, techbase |
09:27.22 | annma | techbase for compiling kde4 |
09:27.35 | annma | devian channels for installing from packages |
09:28.14 | annma | devian/debian |
09:28.21 | vbgunz | JohnFlux: I got no problem googling. Just would hate taking on something I seriously consider a big challenge with a half ass walkthrough or something even worse... outright bad :( I would like something authoritve on it if any suggestions :) |
09:28.21 | annma | weird typo |
09:28.31 | JohnFlux | vbgunz: true :) |
09:28.41 | JohnFlux | vbgunz: you are talking about kde4 right? |
09:28.51 | annma | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 |
09:28.59 | JohnFlux | vbgunz: do you want to develop for it? I wouldn't try using it as just a user at this stage |
09:29.15 | JohnFlux | annma: there's probably kde4 beta packages |
09:29.18 | vbgunz | no, sorry, I meant 3.5.8 |
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09:29.31 | JohnFlux | vbgunz: ah |
09:29.34 | vbgunz | annma, my apologies. i should have been clearer about that |
09:29.38 | annma | vbgunz: unless you 're a devel you don't compile |
09:29.42 | vbgunz | I'll check the tecthase :) |
09:29.58 | JohnFlux | vbgunz: hmm no |
09:29.59 | annma | techbase is for KDE 4 |
09:30.04 | annma | and for devels |
09:30.21 | vbgunz | annma: I am not sure how Debian works exactly. I know the stable version does not ship with 3.5.8. I believe it ships with 3.5.5 |
09:30.28 | vbgunz | oh |
09:30.35 | annma | vbgunz: ask in #debian-kde |
09:30.39 | JohnFlux | vbgunz: ask in #debian for 3.5.8 packages. a quick google shows a few packages |
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09:30.46 | annma | we don't support each and every distro here |
09:30.49 | JohnFlux | do what annma said |
09:30.51 | JohnFlux | :) |
09:30.54 | annma | :) |
09:30.59 | JohnFlux | annma: debian is not a 'each and every' distro! |
09:31.02 | JohnFlux | heretic! |
09:31.05 | annma | lol |
09:31.25 | vbgunz | heh |
09:32.26 | Beer-n-Nutz | hello, everybody. I just installed sabayon, should i update something? |
09:32.53 | annma | #sabayon |
09:33.02 | annma | Beer-n-Nutz: ^^ |
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10:07.19 | digit | Is the basic KDE theme a bunch of gif/jpegs/pngs/or any type of other graphic file somehwere located in the source? |
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10:08.24 | Jucato | digit: depends on what kind of KDE theme you are talking about. if it's the (widget) Styles and Window Decorations, they are in code, not pixmaps |
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10:19.42 | digit | Jucato: Is there a documentation on how they |
10:19.44 | digit | 're drawn? |
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10:21.16 | Jucato | http://www.usermode.org/docs/kwintheme.html this is the only doc I know of, about making kwin decorations... |
10:21.33 | Jucato | other than that, probably the QStyle/KStyle code... |
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10:25.41 | digit | Jucato: Would QStyle/KStyle be .c files? |
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10:26.12 | Jucato | Qt/KDE API.. you'll probably get more accurate answers in #kde-devel |
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10:27.26 | lokpest | so... how do I get Konqueror to start in maximized window? |
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10:27.41 | GNU\colossus | you need to have your kfmclient profile remember its window size |
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10:29.01 | Jucato | really? |
10:29.10 | lokpest | GNU\colossus: so its a setting in the kfmclient, not in konqueror? |
10:29.30 | GNU\colossus | lokpest: available via the konqueror interface, though |
10:29.37 | Jucato | lokpest: right-click on Konqueror's window titlebar -> Advanced -> Special Window Settings |
10:29.43 | digit | Jucato: Thanks. |
10:29.49 | GNU\colossus | Settings -> Save View Profile "$PROFILENAME" |
10:29.51 | GNU\colossus | it's in there |
10:30.42 | MZM | Jucato: well - http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started has JavaScript errors in Konqueror 3.5.8 :P |
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10:31.42 | Jucato | and by that logic, I could also therefore conclude that KDE Developers don't use KDE, since there are also errors (a.k.a. bugs) in KDE |
10:32.12 | Jucato | what js errors btw? (not that I'll be able to check them, still being in 3.5.7) |
10:33.20 | MZM | Jucato: checking own web pages with own browser IMHO is not hard and last thing to do :P |
10:33.25 | MZM | Jucato: http://techbase.kde.org/skins/common/wikibits.js?1: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: wgBreakFrames |
10:33.33 | lokpest | GNU\colossus: thanks! :) |
10:33.38 | GNU\colossus | yw |
10:34.23 | Jucato | I'm on 3.5.7, and I see no error |
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10:36.20 | Jucato | MZM: nothing in both 3.5.7 and 3.5.8 |
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10:42.44 | MZM | Jucato: but should :P |
10:42.54 | Jucato | excuse me? |
10:44.45 | MZM | Jucato: http://techbase.kde.org/skins/common/wikibits.js line 51 is bad practice in JavaScript. It should read: if (typeof x!="undefined") { |
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10:45.49 | Jucato | so there isn't really any visible error? or any error? just "bad practice"? |
10:48.15 | Jucato | MZM: well, it seems that skins/common/ is a directory that is "common" to all MediaWiki installations. that particular file isn't a product of KDE work at all |
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10:50.21 | MZM | Jucato: who cares about source of error (only IF You are going to fix it in MediaWiki)? "Bad practice" manifests it self in Konqueror as JavaScript error. |
10:51.54 | Jucato | MZM: where else would they fix that if not in MediaWiki |
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10:53.12 | MZM | Jucato: in techbase.kde.org MediaWiki installation? |
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10:53.47 | int | hello! can anyone suggest a way to debug kde automount? ie then i insert usb flash nothing happends. but i can see events in lshal and dbus-monitor |
10:54.26 | Jucato | MZM: tell the guys in #kde-www then. or a file a bug with MediaWiki |
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10:56.11 | MZM | Jucato: OK. |
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11:05.54 | fred | troy: ping? Could you put me in contact with someone willing to have someone in a sleeping bag a night before and after the release event please? :) |
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11:09.33 | MZM | fred: " willing to have someone in a sleeping bag "? Diah. |
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11:10.20 | fred | Diah? |
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11:19.11 | digit | ftp://download.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.7/src - Which one is the actual source for the desktop environment? |
11:19.37 | Grumpy007 | hello :) i guess the first RC of KDE 4 is released on the 14.Nov. Bute i cant find her. wehre is she lost? xD |
11:20.32 | fred | Grumpy007: Huh, where'd you get that from? |
11:20.42 | fred | digit: all of the .tar.bz2 files |
11:20.53 | fred | you need arts, kdelibs, kdebase |
11:21.01 | fred | everything else is still part of KDE, but optional parts |
11:21.29 | manu_hack | is it possible to have the meta8 option in konsole? |
11:21.55 | Grumpy007 | Wahhh sorry xD i have read something wrong ^^ its should release tomoro xD |
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11:23.06 | vbgunz | how can i string a couple different commands in a service menu Exec directive? |
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11:39.18 | vbgunz | I am trying to open konqueror on a certain directory. saying konqueror /directory opens a new konqueror instance everytime. how can I instead say, if there is a konqueror, please use that one instead? |
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11:41.46 | ann_out | settings -> configure konqueror |
11:41.54 | ann_out | behavior |
11:42.07 | ann_out | uncheck Open folders in separate windows |
11:42.42 | ubunturos | ann_out: that would still happen when typed using Alt+F2 |
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11:43.15 | annma | pardon? |
11:43.32 | ubunturos | ann_out -- annma? |
11:43.38 | annma | yes |
11:44.00 | annma | he did not ask about alt-f2 |
11:44.08 | annma | vbgunz: does it work? |
11:44.18 | ubunturos | annma: alt+f2 -> type konqueror /etc/ -- konqueror opens /etc |
11:44.28 | vbgunz | annma: if I open 10 folders on my desktop 1 by 1, they all open in the same konqueror... thats what I am trying to get. |
11:44.42 | ubunturos | annma: alt+f2 -> type konqueror /home/foo -- konqueror opens one more "window" with /home/foo |
11:44.57 | vbgunz | if I open 10 folders from the command line, they open 10 instances of konqueror |
11:45.15 | ubunturos | vbgunz: so, the solution is that open konqueror once, and then type /home/foo /home/bar directly in the run dialog, to open just one instance of konqueror |
11:46.01 | vbgunz | ubunturos: I am messing around with a service menu that mounts an iso then opens the directory... it works but always opens a new instance of konqueror |
11:46.04 | ubunturos | vbgunz: which means, you can type konqueror /home/foo and then just type /home/bar /home/foobar |
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11:46.21 | ubunturos | vbgunz: hmm, :-? |
11:46.29 | vbgunz | one moment |
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11:46.54 | annma | you guys are pretty confusing |
11:47.13 | annma | I leave you to it |
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11:47.18 | ubunturos | annma: :) |
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11:47.50 | ubunturos | vbgunz: what do you use or do to mount the iso? |
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11:49.24 | vbgunz | one moment, sorry |
11:49.44 | vbgunz | Exec=kdesu -c 'sudo umount /media/iso; sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop %f /media/iso; konqueror /media/iso' |
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11:51.06 | vbgunz | there is a shell app I am looking for. I used it briefly and forgot it's name. it sort of does things differently. I am not sure but thought it was kcmshell or something like that |
11:51.36 | vbgunz | I checked the man page on kcmshell and don't believe thats it... it was another way to do things if I am not mistaken, now I can't remember it though :( |
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11:52.07 | ubunturos | :-? |
11:53.34 | vbgunz | might be kfmclient, not sure |
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11:55.10 | vbgunz | got it |
11:55.16 | vbgunz | kfmclient exec /media/iso |
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11:57.31 | ubunturos | vbgunz: yes, found it now, :) |
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11:57.51 | vbgunz | cool :) |
11:58.25 | ubunturos | vbgunz: thanks to you too |
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11:59.09 | vbgunz | :) |
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12:01.06 | sirina | hi there! i've installed the kde beta on my pc and it was working fine. while testing there was some crashes and i had to contiue my work with kde 3 cos i was writing something. hm.. now when i try to login with the kde4 user, there is nothing happens. it's falling back to my primary user acc. |
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12:01.33 | sirina | is here someone who can give me an advice where i should look to fix it? |
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12:02.11 | sirina | mb in deleting something in /tmp or configuration data? |
12:04.29 | boom1992 | sirina: rm -rf .kde4 |
12:04.31 | boom1992 | ^^ |
12:05.33 | aceler | remove ~/.kde4 |
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12:06.38 | sirina | hm ok. so when i login again it would create a new ~/.kde4 directory? |
12:06.45 | aceler | Yes |
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12:06.55 | sirina | ok thx. i'll try it :-) |
12:07.08 | aceler | If you afraid of your data - backup it :) |
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12:07.41 | sirina | no.. i have a separate user for testing |
12:07.57 | sirina | there is no important data :-) |
12:09.01 | aceler | I mean data inside ~/.kde4 |
12:11.47 | sirina | no, i didn't configure anything by my own |
12:12.03 | vbgunz | how do you hide a long command in the kdesu dialog? |
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12:12.23 | vbgunz | I tried -d ... I must be putting it in the wrong place :/ |
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12:12.38 | sirina | ups.. the windowbars are hidden now.. o.O |
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12:13.39 | vbgunz | sirina: you have no window manager? no window title or window border? |
12:13.50 | sirina | right. vbgunz |
12:14.03 | vbgunz | kwin is dead, look into kwin |
12:14.48 | sirina | thx, but how could i "look into kwin"? |
12:15.39 | Sho_ | run 'kwin --replace' |
12:15.52 | vbgunz | morning Sho_, |
12:16.03 | Jucato | Sho_!!!!! *chokes* !!!!! |
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12:16.09 | Sho_ | moin vbgunz, Jucato :) |
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12:16.58 | ubunturos | hey Jucato |
12:17.03 | vbgunz | Jucato: breath dude, breath, love is a battlefield :) |
12:17.11 | Jucato | :) |
12:17.14 | Jucato | ey ubunturos |
12:17.32 | sirina | oooooh.. i've logged in via ssh to the another user and ran the command... no MY window-titles and borders are hidden :-/ |
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12:18.26 | vbgunz | sirina: you can try Alt+F3 on a focused window... check the advanced window|application settings... maybe you can enable them there |
12:18.55 | Jucato | he's on kde4 I think... |
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12:42.48 | sirina | uhm. fluctuation. |
12:42.48 | sirina | is there s.o. who can give me an example for a dbus call? |
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12:46.31 | SSJ_GZ | sirina: It's probably mainly devs who are using dbus at the mo. Try asking in #kde4-devel |
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12:47.09 | MaartenB | hello everyone |
12:47.30 | sirina | thx SSJ_GZ |
12:47.44 | SSJ_GZ | sirina: np - good luck! |
12:48.08 | sirina | thx :-)) |
12:48.14 | MaartenB | I have a strange '%1' text in KMail when using fancy headers after upgrading to the latest FC7 RPM, any suggestions how to solve this? |
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12:50.49 | sirina | SSJ_GZ: [13:50] I'm sure google can give you examples |
12:50.55 | sirina | -.-' |
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12:51.17 | SSJ_GZ | sirina: Google it is, then :) |
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12:52.25 | sirina | i think dbus is more extensive than dcop was. |
12:53.47 | MZM | MaartenB: language? |
12:53.51 | SSJ_GZ | sirina: Possibly. I've seen examples of calls using qtdbus, but now I can't find them! |
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12:54.26 | SSJ_GZ | sirina: Ah, that's why - it's qdbus, not qtdbus! |
12:54.40 | MaartenB | MZM, what do you mean? |
12:55.01 | MZM | MaartenB: localised KMail version or English one? |
12:55.03 | SSJ_GZ | sirina: There's an example here: http://api.kde.org/4.0-api/kdelibs-apidocs/interfaces/kspeech/html/index.html |
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12:55.06 | zLinux | hi |
12:55.12 | SSJ_GZ | sirina: Search the page for qdbus |
12:55.32 | MaartenB | MZM, the English one, FC7 RPM |
12:55.32 | zLinux | how come KIconEdit don't have Save As .ICO files? |
12:55.38 | sirina | isn't qdbus only the tool for managing calls? |
12:55.45 | zLinux | I need to create a favicon for my site :/ |
12:56.02 | MZM | MaartenB: help->about KMail->version? |
12:56.13 | zLinux | please tell me how to save my edited icon in KIconEdit in favicon.ico format please??? |
12:56.15 | SSJ_GZ | sirina: It's used for making them. What exactly are you looking for? |
12:56.25 | MaartenB | MZM, 1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20071012.724442) |
12:56.45 | MZM | zLinux: any image format will work for favicon in most browsers |
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12:57.53 | MZM | MaartenB: OK. Now You have all info - report as bug, as it's a bug in code. |
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12:58.44 | sirina | ah no its ok. i'll have a look on it! thx SSJ_GZ :-) |
12:58.46 | MaartenB | MZM, I searched bugs.kde.org, but couldn't find anything about it, which is strange because it is quite obvious that it is wrong |
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12:58.59 | SSJ_GZ | sirina: Cool; np :) |
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13:00.59 | zLinux | MZM, file name: favicon.ico ? |
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13:01.26 | MZM | zLinux: yap. |
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13:02.23 | zLinux | MZM, is it needed to be put in each directory or just the main directory of the website? |
13:02.29 | MZM | MaartenB: I don't know. It may be some Fedora specific patch result. Try to report as Fedora bug first. |
13:02.44 | MaartenB | MZM, ok, thanks, I do that |
13:03.04 | MZM | zLinux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Favicon |
13:03.21 | sirina | qdbus org.kde.kttsd "/KSpeech" say <text> <options> <-- this is clearly another structure then a dcop command would have. i tried to get a little closer with dbus thru reading - its bewildering ^^ SSJ_GZ |
13:03.25 | zLinux | MZM, oh nice link, thanks |
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13:03.45 | MZM | zLinux: np |
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13:17.44 | MrGrim | WOW that kde4 wallpaper collection is NICE |
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14:06.20 | Jucato | padde: that'll teach me not to ask newbie stuff in there :( |
14:06.56 | padde | i think most of the guys are also in here ;) |
14:07.39 | Jucato | yeah, but I didn't want to interrupt them... |
14:10.37 | padde | to be honest, i haven't got any really useful info in there... mainly RTFM, although it was quite clear that this information couldn't be RTFM'ed, because it were mainly design questions... so i'll just learn everything by myself and be a better help there in the future ;) |
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14:11.32 | Jucato | I'll just go back there when I need too... thought I could glean some useful info... definitely not for my level yet... |
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14:11.37 | Jucato | oh well, back to real KDE life... |
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14:13.25 | padde | Jucato: as i said... I tried Kdevelop and Eclipse... both work fine, but Eclipse is just too bloated (and too GTK) for my taste. and it always does things i didn't ask it to... so i went back to Kdevelop |
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14:14.09 | Jucato | heh I'll probably end up using KDevelop too. just not for my starting/simple C++ needs, which needs nothing more than the awesome power of Kate :) |
14:14.54 | padde | Jucato: well, KDevelop is built around kate ;) |
14:15.03 | Jucato | I just have 2 uncertainties about KDevelop though... why I can't use it for simple C++ programming w/o having to create projects and whether it supports Qt 4 already... |
14:15.25 | Jucato | padde: yeah, but right now, all I need is Kate's super editor (katepart) and the embedded konsole :) |
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14:15.39 | annma | Jucato: you can use it for simple C++ |
14:15.44 | Jucato | (and discovering the Symbol viewer and make output plugins adds to that sweetness) |
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14:15.52 | padde | Jucato: and it handles the qmake calls for you, which is nice. and the most important thing for me is the code completion (list of methods/members that pops up while writing)... i just need it, because i have such a bad memory |
14:15.52 | annma | a project is some files + a Makefile |
14:15.53 | Jucato | annma: w/o having to create a Project for it? |
14:16.05 | annma | you can import your own files |
14:16.13 | Jucato | annma: yeah.. I mean simple C++ that doesn't require Make :) |
14:16.29 | annma | that's really simple then |
14:16.36 | annma | then it does nto require an IDE |
14:16.43 | Jucato | yep. that's why I said Kate :) |
14:16.46 | padde | Jucato: that's hello world then ;) |
14:17.13 | annma | KDevelop supports Qt4, courtesy of your humble servant Jucato |
14:17.15 | Jucato | padde: not really. 3 files minimum. main.cpp, a header file and the implementation file :) |
14:17.59 | padde | Jucato: i can do hello world with only one file :P ;) |
14:18.03 | Jucato | lol!! |
14:18.18 | Jucato | of course I had to make a Hello class first |
14:18.21 | Jucato | not! :P |
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14:19.46 | Jucato | well, I think I'll stick to Kate mini-IDE until my "projects" really need a project :) |
14:20.43 | Jucato | (and stay out of #qt in the meantime...) |
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14:42.06 | Gentle | where does the kde menu reside? As in, where are those .desktop files on my disk? |
14:43.44 | Jucato | not 100% sure, but $KDEDIR/share/applications/kde and ~/. |
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14:43.52 | Jucato | not 100% sure, but $KDEDIR/share/applications/kde and ~/.local/share/applications/kde |
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14:46.00 | spawn57 | hey jucato, have you ever printed on 4x6 (4R) paper in linux/digikam? |
14:46.23 | Jucato | nope |
14:46.50 | spawn57 | d'oh |
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14:53.30 | MrGrim | can anyone comment on using the binary flash plugin in konqueror compiled for x86_64? |
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14:53.56 | MrGrim | should I even bother trying? :) |
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15:06.34 | plazm | what packages can integrate svn with konqueror? |
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15:08.25 | dwinslow | plazm: kdesvn is the only one I know of |
15:08.36 | dwinslow | i think cervisia is planning SVN support for KDE4 as well |
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15:43.11 | Mirrakor | I've a Ktorrent question |
15:44.26 | Mirrakor | remote station/receiver: I see a few IPs which have a blank sheet symbole in front them |
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15:44.59 | Mirrakor | I think I remember there was a lock shown before.. could that be? |
15:45.06 | Mirrakor | and if yes - why is there no lock anymore? :) |
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16:09.32 | FreshPrince | moin |
16:09.42 | zipito_ | can someone help me solve problem with keyboard-layout |
16:10.25 | zipito_ | I want to switch between ENG - RU - UA keyboard layouts. but when I set the keyboard switching combination it doesn't work! |
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16:11.19 | annma | because you use CTRL ALT K |
16:11.30 | annma | and K is RU is not K anymore |
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16:12.48 | Jejem | =) |
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16:19.10 | downs | hi |
16:19.21 | downs | kde stores some info on the current session on logout |
16:19.29 | downs | is there some way to trigger this manually? |
16:19.35 | downs | like, for example, on every suspend? :) |
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16:20.42 | dwinslow | downs: "dcop ksmserver ksmserver saveCurrentSession" should do it |
16:20.50 | downs | woo! thanks a lot |
16:20.53 | downs | :D |
16:21.36 | Jucato | hm? |
16:21.45 | Jucato | you want to save a session manually? |
16:22.00 | downs | ooh yes. |
16:22.23 | downs | <PROTECTED> |
16:22.28 | Jucato | there's an option in KControl -> KDE Components -> Session Manager |
16:22.41 | Jucato | but if you want to put it in a script, dcop is the best way |
16:22.42 | downs | does anybody know as which user suspend2's OnSuspend setting is run? |
16:22.51 | downs | wouldn't do any good if it ran as root ._. |
16:23.18 | dwinslow | downs: i think there are flags you can pass to dcop to tell it which session to connect to |
16:23.31 | downs | yeah, but cron is easier :p |
16:23.57 | downs | <PROTECTED> |
16:24.04 | downs | or at least as != the current user |
16:24.10 | dwinslow | i think dcop will need to be running in your KDE environment for you to not specify the user |
16:24.24 | downs | dcopserver is up |
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16:24.48 | dwinslow | that's not what i meant |
16:24.56 | downs | hum? |
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16:25.31 | dwinslow | i think you need to run dcop from within your kde session or it won't be able to guess what the session is |
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16:25.35 | downs | okay |
16:25.42 | downs | I'll put it in a kde autostart script. |
16:25.44 | dwinslow | but i don't use it for stuff like this so I might be completely wrong |
16:26.50 | downs | kay, seems to work now :D thanks a lot |
16:26.58 | downs | laters ~ |
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16:34.19 | Araen | hello |
16:34.43 | Araen | i've a bug who is repertoried on bugs.kde.org but i don't know how resolve that =D |
16:35.04 | Araen | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81525 |
16:35.07 | Mirrakor | uhm, there's a burning monitor used in a lot of screensaver, can I change it somehow? |
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16:46.03 | student | народ, кто на ati катаецо ? |
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16:46.16 | Araen | english please =D |
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16:46.49 | Jucato | !ru | student |
16:46.53 | Jucato | bah wrong channel! |
16:46.54 | Jucato | bwahahah |
16:46.56 | Armand | lol |
16:47.03 | Cipher_ | im really impressed with the kde3 team, in my sister notebook compiz never run, the machine has an integrated video card |
16:47.45 | Cipher_ | but try with the transparenc effects of kde35.8 and run without problems |
16:47.48 | Jucato | oooh... splashing grey matter! I like! :) |
16:47.59 | Armand | ^_^ |
16:48.53 | Cipher_ | so, thnks to everyone, and im sure that kde4 also run in her machine, not like compiz xDD |
16:48.57 | Araen | i'm on fedora, i had do "yum remove arts" but when i had do after "yum install arts" bah it's catastrophic ! |
16:49.11 | Cipher_ | with the effects enabled ofcourse |
16:49.13 | Araen | my software are not running =/ |
16:49.51 | dwinslow | Araen: why did you remove arts? |
16:50.06 | Jucato | (or in dwinslow's direction) |
16:50.08 | Araen | because i've a problem at beginning |
16:50.28 | Araen | so i thought re-install it after, but it's not what i thought |
16:50.38 | Araen | would* |
16:51.04 | Araen | Jucato: i'm on #fedora |
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16:59.06 | mwoehlke | argh!! anyone know why my clock in kicker (KDE3) is suddenly displaying "Chicago" (i.e. my timezone) instead of the date?! |
16:59.39 | apokryphos | mwoehlke: maybe you pressed scroll on the clock? |
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17:00.07 | mwoehlke | apokryphos: ah! thanks! (ok... that was totally inobvious) |
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17:00.35 | aceler | ? |
17:00.37 | mwoehlke | incidentally, yes I am in the 'wheel should not work on taskbar' camp :P |
17:00.56 | mwoehlke | aceler: do you have multiple timezones configured? (scroll = mousewheel) |
17:00.56 | apokryphos | aceler: sorry, just scroll, not middle button press |
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17:01.29 | aceler | mwoehlke: oh. No :) |
17:02.01 | mwoehlke | I only hate it on the taskbar, because I never use it intentionally, and it is too easy to do unintentionally (and the effects of doing it accidentally are much more disruptive on the taskbar) |
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17:02.23 | aceler | But if so, it is not a good usability - if users don't understand what they just did... |
17:02.55 | mwoehlke | heh, yeah... clearly, I didn't even know I'd done it :-) just 'wtf happened to my date' :-) |
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17:06.03 | mwoehlke | anyway, thanks folks (apokryphos especially) , back to coding :-) |
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17:06.30 | Jucato | apokryphos: how does the new hat feel? :) |
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17:09.01 | Mirrakor | is it recommended to use DHT for Torrents? |
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17:14.50 | apokryphos | Jucato: ok, I'm mainly glad that we can really get things done now :) |
17:14.50 | Jucato | GTD? :D |
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17:15.17 | Jucato | I wish *I* could get things done now ::P |
17:15.21 | apokryphos | Jucato: hm? |
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17:15.47 | Jucato | hehe you're not familiar with the whole GTD (Get Things Done) cult? :) |
17:16.02 | apokryphos | ah, nope; sounds good though 8) |
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17:16.12 | Jucato | (It's like the "7 Habits" for the 21st century) |
17:16.59 | apokryphos | heh |
17:17.21 | apokryphos | Jucato: how's your kde hacking? :) |
17:17.46 | Jucato | ah.. that... hm... hahaha! |
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17:18.14 | Jucato | and I need to go on a distro/Kubuntu diet to re-focus on that |
17:19.21 | apokryphos | Jucato: how are things going there? |
17:19.38 | Jucato | kubuntu? |
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17:19.49 | apokryphos | yup |
17:20.10 | Jucato | basically, everything's the usual. work's great for some, sucks for others :) |
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17:20.24 | Jucato | we're a bit shorthanded lately though... need fresh new blood |
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17:21.02 | Jucato | (imho) gutsy's a bit rough around the edges... hopefully the next release (an LTS) will be better |
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17:22.34 | apokryphos | Jucato: lure over more ubuntugnome guys ;) |
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17:23.54 | Jucato | apokryphos: if only we could :) |
17:24.04 | Jucato | but Ubuntu's indirectly part of our problems :P |
17:25.59 | apokryphos | Jucato: the more time goes on, the harder it's gonna be to change things, probably |
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17:28.11 | apokryphos | Jucato: the big guys need to bite the bullet and do it (i.e. in your blog post I disagree that going on with things is an appropriate solution) |
17:28.13 | Jucato | apokryphos: true. congrats on the Guiding Principles too. wished Kubuntu (or even Ubuntu) had something like it. the closest is the CoC, which isn't really the same... |
17:28.28 | Jucato | oooh you read it? :D |
17:29.14 | Jucato | apokryphos: unfortunately, I'm just one voice... but someone has raised a similar topic to be discussed in the next meeting... whenever that is ;) |
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17:29.39 | apokryphos | CoC concentrates more on behaviour, which is also needed. Ubuntu's goals aren't unclear though, so I don't think there's any problem with no guiding principles ;) |
17:29.47 | Jucato | apokryphos: and if you'll read my post today, you'll find out why I took a bit of a defeatist attitude in that regard :P |
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17:31.30 | Jucato | apokryphos: btw, http://net3rror.com/index.php?q=node/2 (skip to the 2nd paragraph) |
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17:32.37 | apokryphos | Jucato: would you like to come and work for us? ;-) |
17:32.42 | Jucato | lol |
17:33.06 | Jucato | apokryphos: http://jedrm.wordpress.com/2007/11/18/recently/#comment-5072 from the same person, again, 2nd paragraph :P |
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17:33.55 | apokryphos | http://news.opensuse.org/?p=397 is still open ;) |
17:34.13 | Jucato | lol |
17:34.37 | apokryphos | Travel: 50%, including international |
17:34.49 | Jucato | nah... I really need to cut down on distro-level stuff for a while... |
17:35.01 | apokryphos | travel the world and talk about open source? Such a cool job 8) |
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17:35.14 | Jucato | hahah |
17:35.16 | apokryphos | Jucato: yeah, I know what you mean |
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17:35.59 | Jucato | a distro-specific job like that would be great, if that were my goal... but my eyes have been set on KDE in the klouds since day 1 |
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18:22.13 | penguinbait | Is there a way to start konsole with root session from command line? |
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18:22.48 | Sho_ | penguinbait: konsole --type su |
18:23.36 | sztiksz | hello |
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18:25.00 | penguinbait | thank you Sho_ |
18:25.28 | Sho_ | np |
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18:29.19 | indro | hi all |
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18:29.55 | indro | anyone know how kcontrol sets the keyboard setting for reapeating key stroke? |
18:29.55 | PhilRod | hi indro |
18:30.00 | indro | is there a commandline tool for that? |
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18:33.28 | starrysky | how do you save your desktop state (want to make sure my panel definitions don't get erased after log out of session) |
18:33.30 | Jucato | indro: command line tool = edit the ~/.kde/share/config/kcminputrc file manually? |
18:34.03 | Jucato | starrysky: by default, KDE saves the session automatically when you logout and restores it when you log back in |
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18:34.28 | starrysky | jucato thanks! |
18:34.53 | starrysky | jucato: and is there a way do make the definitions i am using and set them for all the users (globally) |
18:35.03 | Jucato | that I don't know |
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18:35.21 | indro | Jucato: im currently not using kde, but if I change keyboard setting in kcontrol I get repeating key stroke. |
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18:40.11 | sztiksz | 3~ |
18:40.17 | sztiksz | ohhsry |
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18:40.55 | sztiksz | im look for a kdebased mobile manager, sending receiving sms mostly |
18:41.10 | sztiksz | any recommendations ? |
18:41.11 | sztiksz | . |
18:41.32 | Jucato | kmobiletools (but never personally used it) |
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18:48.49 | mmarco | hi |
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18:49.37 | starrysky | anyone knows how to add apllications to system tray? As it seems kde already knows that some apps should be put into system tray. For example xchat was automatically set as tray app. How do i difine other such as audacious? |
18:49.39 | mmarco | i am being unable to compile kdebase4. |
18:50.19 | PhilRod | starrysky: ksystraycmd. See the user guide at docs.kde.org |
18:50.27 | stdin | mmarco: it's best to ask kde4 questions in #kde4-devel |
18:50.29 | PhilRod | mmarco: probably best to ask in #kde4-devel |
18:50.34 | mmarco | more precisely, when trying to compile the colck plasmoid |
18:50.37 | mmarco | ok, thanks |
18:52.34 | starrysky | philrod: tks. |
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18:56.47 | sztiksz | Jucato: thx !! ;) |
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19:24.47 | AmyRose | Should I report this not working in Konqueror to the webmaster or to the KDE bugzilla? http://spyed.deviantart.com/gallery/ |
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19:27.12 | ergroot | AmyRose: which version of konqueror are you using? |
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19:27.41 | AmyRose | ergroot: 3.5.8 |
19:27.53 | AmyRose | be right back though--gotta log out and back in |
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19:34.10 | AmyRose | well, I'm back |
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19:44.57 | neddy | why does kde think my monitor is 1024x768 when it's really 1600x1200? |
19:45.08 | neddy | how do I fix that? |
19:45.35 | dwinslow | neddy: that's probably an Xorg problem rather than a KDE problem |
19:45.44 | dwinslow | you should ask in your distribution's channel |
19:47.19 | neddy | no it isn't |
19:47.28 | neddy | xorg set my monitor to 1600x1200 just fine |
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19:47.40 | neddy | I can manually resize my apps to use the whole window |
19:47.49 | neddy | but kcontrol reports a maximum of 1024x768 |
19:48.24 | neddy | When I use F11 or Maximize, my windows get shrunk down to 1024x768 |
19:48.30 | AmyRose | OK, anybody know where I should report this page not working in Konqueror 3.5.8? http://spyed.deviantart.com/gallery |
19:48.52 | AmyRose | I can't decide whether to report it in the KDE bugzilla or to the site |
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19:53.12 | neddy | AmyRose: I'd guess KDE |
19:53.32 | AmyRose | neddy: OK. |
19:53.40 | AmyRose | I was thinking too, but wasn't sure |
19:53.53 | ergroot | does konq crash? |
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19:54.05 | AmyRose | ergroot: No |
19:54.08 | ergroot | or render the site completely wrong? |
19:54.12 | AmyRose | ergroot: It's blank. |
19:54.31 | ergroot | hmm, that probably falls in the second catagory.. ;-) |
19:54.37 | AmyRose | Yeah. |
19:54.46 | ergroot | i think you should raise a bug |
19:54.59 | AmyRose | OK |
19:55.02 | AmyRose | It works fine in Firefox |
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20:04.39 | ergroot | AmyRose: I tried as well and Firefox indeed works fine |
20:05.07 | ergroot | if kdebase compiles I'll give the site a try with konq from KDE4 |
20:05.30 | AmyRose | ergroot: OK, thank you |
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20:16.16 | AmyRose | ergroot: Just confirmed that it works in Opera |
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20:16.52 | ergroot | ok, still waiting for kdebase4 to finish compiling... |
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20:19.24 | AmyRose | ergroot: I can try it in Safari in Wine |
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20:19.55 | ergroot | well, if Firefox and Opera work fine |
20:20.07 | ergroot | you have enough proof that it is a konq problem |
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20:24.45 | apokryphos | too dark, strong, noisy |
20:24.50 | dsafda | guys I'm using Konversation, I'd like to know if is there a way to have the "copy" function like Mirc and xchat, where you can select a text and that's automatically in the clipboard... thanks |
20:24.54 | ergroot | AmyRose: I works fine in Konqueror from KDE4 |
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20:25.26 | ergroot | although I had to change my browser identification... |
20:25.29 | AmyRose | Oh |
20:25.32 | AmyRose | I'll try it then |
20:25.46 | Sho_ | dsafda: That's actually a feature of every KDE / modern Linux desktop application |
20:25.47 | dwinslow | dsafda: in X11, you can paste the last thing selected by middle-clicking |
20:25.49 | vbgunz | AmyRose: you should probably shoot off an email to the site about making valid pages and unobtrusive JavaScript before going to konq with this |
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20:25.58 | Sho_ | dsafda: Select some text, and paste it at the destination using the middle mouse button |
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20:26.27 | AmyRose | dsafda: You can also have Klipper synchronize the clipboard and selection in the settings dialog |
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20:26.37 | Sho_ | dsafda: Linux desktop uses two clipboard buffers, one filled/pasted using the keyboard shortcuts and GUI actions, and one filled/pasted using the mouse. You can use KDE's clipboard utility Klipper to keep them synchronized if you want, to use only one. |
20:26.46 | Sho_ | dsafda: But with time, you might appreciate having them seperate |
20:27.12 | AmyRose | Sho_: I actually have started to appreciate having them separate, even though I used to always use the synchronization setting |
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20:28.01 | Ace2016 | Hi all |
20:28.42 | igor | dsafda: Oh, I thought that separation of buffers was some kind of bug :) |
20:29.36 | Sho_ | Actually, there's even *three* clipboard buffers by default in X, but modern toolkits only use those two ;) |
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20:30.02 | dsafda | ooo great I found the clipboard on the mouse!! :) thanks |
20:30.09 | Sho_ | And Qt and GTK have agreed on how to use them (there's a codification of that behavior in a freedesktop.org document) |
20:30.19 | dsafda | I click on the wheel and I got it |
20:30.42 | AmyRose | Who on Earth needs to copy 2,048 things?! |
20:31.11 | igor | dsafda: now you have discovered most important thing in the world :) he-he |
20:31.49 | vbgunz | man, I would like to see what vlc with Qt is going to look like |
20:32.12 | Sho_ | vbgunz: I saw some screenies in their forums |
20:32.36 | vbgunz | Sho_: really? I search here and there on Google and never find them :( |
20:32.44 | vbgunz | I'll check it out, I hope it looks good |
20:33.41 | Sho_ | vbgunz: Looked fairly close to their old wxWidgets UI in terms of layout, just Qt-ish widget style wise |
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20:34.15 | vbgunz | I like vlc. I hope it rocks :) |
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20:34.56 | AmyRose | Sho_: what's the third clipboard buffer? |
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20:36.25 | Sho_ | AmyRose: It's called SECONDARY (the GUI actions operate on CLIPBOARD, and the mouse on PRIMARY) |
20:36.42 | Sho_ | AmyRose: But modern toolkits don't use SECONDARY for anything |
20:36.44 | AmyRose | Ah! |
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20:37.06 | AmyRose | Sho_: I'm guessing CLIPBOARD is the only one capable of storing anything but text, am I correct? |
20:37.14 | Sho_ | Even older is an ICCCM system called "cut buffers", which is also totally outmoded :) |
20:37.48 | AmyRose | I mean other than |
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20:38.27 | igor | <Sho_>: when you said about freedesktop.org document you have meant this one http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/ClipboardsWiki?action=show&redirect=Standards%2FClipboardsWiki ? |
20:38.29 | Sho_ | AmyRose: The three are the same technically aiui, but toolkits tend to use Primary only for text selection |
20:38.44 | AmyRose | ah |
20:38.50 | Sho_ | igor: yes |
20:39.02 | Sho_ | AmyRose: the link igor posted will explain it |
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20:39.25 | MinceR | (vlc for video, audacious for audio :> ) |
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20:39.41 | Sho_ | KPlayer for video, Amarok for audio, here |
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20:41.14 | vbgunz | Sho_: I thought kplayer was discontinued or something? |
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20:42.26 | vbgunz | is it called kmplayer in the Kubuntu repos? |
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20:42.37 | AmyRose | vbgunz: No, kmplayer is something esle |
20:42.38 | thiago_home | kplayer and kmplayer are not the sameapp |
20:42.38 | AmyRose | else* |
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20:43.19 | vbgunz | I have mplayer. I hate the interface. I just used mencoder on a vob and it only plays in mplayer, not in kaffeine :P |
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20:43.41 | dwinslow | vbgunz: kplayer is a pretty nice interface for mplayer |
20:43.56 | dwinslow | it doesn't have a lot of bling, but it lets you get at many of mplayer's features |
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20:44.12 | Sho_ | vbgunz: no. KPlayer was stagnant for two years or so, but the author has recently revived it and fixed lots of bugs and made it pretty nice. |
20:44.15 | vbgunz | but how do you get it on Kubuntu? is itknown by another name? |
20:44.40 | Sho_ | vbgunz: the default toolbar setup is a mess, but the menus are pretty orderly and it exposes more of MPlayer's feature set than any otheR KDE player, thus with a little tweaking of the toolbars it's a very nice player. |
20:45.00 | Sho_ | vbgunz: http://www.eikehein.com/files/kplayer.png is how I have set it up |
20:45.20 | AmyRose | ergroot: What UA string did you have to use to make that site work? |
20:45.34 | Sho_ | vbgunz: As for a Kubuntu package -- I don't use Kubuntu and can't help in that regard, sorry |
20:45.56 | vbgunz | I'll look for it on the net :) |
20:48.35 | ergroot | Firefox 2.0.0.8 |
20:48.46 | ergroot | but any FireFox will probably do |
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20:51.56 | ilj | hi guys. i run kde 3.5.7 on a notebook machine. i figured that it's impossible to add a battery indicator to the kicker. |
20:52.12 | ilj | i click a corresponding button but nothing appears in the kicker |
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20:52.41 | dwinslow | ilj: kpowersave and klaptop are two tools that provide battery indicators in the system tray |
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20:53.03 | dwinslow | there are also superkaramba desktop widgets that provide battery indicators |
20:53.13 | ilj | dwinslow, does that mean that a default kde setup won't provide that battery status indicator right out of the box? |
20:53.32 | vbgunz | Sho_: am downloading it from Debian unstable. Yesterday I was seriously konsidering giving Debian a real shot. unfortunately my wireless card doesn't work out of the box and I cannot hook up a wired connection :( |
20:53.32 | dwinslow | mine did |
20:53.41 | dwinslow | i suppose it depends on your distribution |
20:53.42 | ilj | point is that I'm curious as to why it won't appear when it's supposed to |
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20:54.55 | vbgunz | well kplayer plays iso files without a problem |
20:54.58 | vbgunz | thats a good thing |
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20:55.37 | dwinslow | kplayer can also pipe things through kioslaves, which can be nice on a local network |
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20:59.06 | vbgunz | downloading from Debian was probably a bad idea. I can play DVDs but have no support for them in a sense. no main or root menu and hovering over DVD links doesn't do anything :O |
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21:00.29 | dwinslow | vbgunz: kplayer doesn't have DVD navigation support afaik |
21:00.40 | dwinslow | mplayer has experimental support for it, i think |
21:00.45 | vbgunz | ahh |
21:00.50 | vbgunz | so this is expected |
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21:29.35 | mrigns | will kde4 get rid of the unsmoothly resizing of windows until release? |
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21:31.55 | aseigo | mrigns: qt 4.4 comes with smooth internal repaints, and that coupled with composition management gives us hope for kde 4.1 (4.0 will be qt 4.3 based) |
21:32.13 | aseigo | mrigns: it's already better in a number of places with composition turned on, but that's only part of the solution |
21:32.53 | mrigns | aseigo: thx for the info, i just compiled from svn |
21:33.26 | mrigns | so i wondered if that could be the reason ;P |
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22:32.00 | sredna | i experience a really odd problem: Trying to download any file named *.torrent fails |
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22:41.30 | sourcemaker | are there any known problems using a nvidia geforce3 on KDE? |
22:42.09 | sourcemaker | or is it the wrong channel for asking this question? |
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22:57.51 | sourcemaker_ | are the any developers around here? |
22:58.27 | PhilRod | sourcemaker_: mostly in #kde-devel or #kde4-devel |
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22:58.44 | sourcemaker_ | PhilRod: Thanks a lot |
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23:03.43 | luyt | KDE4? Interesting. |
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23:13.00 | sourcemaker_ | luyt: KDE4 is not working well on the current release... too much bugs :-) |
23:15.03 | luyt | Is it me, or is it hard to find a 'what's new in this release' for KDE4? |
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23:42.26 | no0tic | hi, in kaffeine 0.8.5 kde 3.5.8, kubuntu 7.10, I can use only xv video driver in the xine engine parameters. Others video drivers make kaffeine crash |
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23:42.57 | no0tic | with xv I had to disable scaling because otherwise the image from dvb-t appears shrinked |
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23:57.29 | Dar1us | can anyone help me creating a custom XML file to add menu entries to the K menu? |