| 00:00.10 | snowbird | dont see samba there i got companay at door geeez |
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| 00:07.56 | stumped42 | is this the correct channel in which to ask questions about kwallet? |
| 00:08.23 | troy | stumped42: depends on what kind of question? using kwallet, yes. |
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| 00:08.44 | troy | stumped42: can't guarantee anyone will know the answer, but it's a good place to ask :) |
| 00:10.27 | stumped42 | when I start kmail (which has 5 entries) kwallet asks for password and I tell it. The passwd works for three of those accounts but two of them require manual password input. Is there an easy way to add these other two accounts to kwallet? |
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| 00:21.46 | voonte | stumped42: I believe that's more a question related to KMail. If you go to Settings->Configure KMail, you can modify your accounts to store the password. |
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| 00:34.37 | Sweetandy | What's KDE's window manager? AKA GNOME has Metacity? |
| 00:35.35 | ccc | Sweetandy: kwin |
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| 00:38.24 | Sweetandy | ccc, Thanks ccc! |
| 00:41.14 | stumped42 | voonte: I know I can lock the passwords into kmail. But that sort of defeats the purpose of kwallet |
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| 00:47.28 | voonte | Doesn't KMail store its passwords in KWallet? |
| 00:47.56 | patricio_ | hello |
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| 00:54.47 | tso | voonte: only if you tell it to i think |
| 00:56.24 | voonte | tso: I checked my kwallet and the kmail accounts are stored there. I also need to have my wallet open for kmail. |
| 00:56.35 | tso | ok |
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| 01:00.05 | stumped42 | voonte: it stores three out of five and the other two I need to add manually |
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| 01:07.21 | stumped42 | we are on solar power here and have had terrible weather and I just got a power alert so I must go otherwise I will spend the night by single 60 watt light bulb (generator is off being fixed) |
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| 01:36.24 | sloth1 | opensuse 10.2 kde 3.5.5.. can I create another panel/kicker that isnt double height?? |
| 01:38.16 | sloth1 | my main kicker is small height. I want to add another panel but its always large height. |
| 01:38.51 | wolsni | sloth1: you should be able to adjust the height of kicker panels by right clicking on them and choosing configure |
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| 01:42.45 | sloth1 | it always adjusts the main one, not the others |
| 01:43.20 | wolsni | sloth1: there should be a dropdown in the configure dialog to choose which panel to configure |
| 01:43.44 | sloth1 | ahhhhhh. im a dolt |
| 01:43.45 | wolsni | if not, "dcop kicker kicker restart" in a shell should get it working correctly |
| 01:43.48 | sloth1 | cool thanks |
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| 01:46.08 | |timrs| | did you memorize dcop kicker kicker restart too? i thought i was the only one... |
| 01:46.27 | wolsni | it's not that hard to remember |
| 01:46.48 | |timrs| | i know... |
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| 01:47.58 | seren | in what order do you need to build kde4's deps? |
| 01:48.44 | seren | qt4 -> cmake -> strigi -> kdelibs -> kdepimlibs? |
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| 02:01.47 | chuy_max | where are the KDE system/recommended requirements? |
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| 02:19.23 | silver_ | kwlan says that it is unable to start wpa_supplicant, but i have no clue what could be wrong, because that's all it says |
| 02:20.16 | silver_ | what could be wrong? |
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| 02:28.51 | Gumby | allo all. I am running kde 3.5.7 in ubuntu feisty. I am trying to change my default browser from konqueror to firefox. Everywhere I see online says to go into kcontrol and change System Settings -> KDE Components -> Web Browser however there is no "Web Browser" option in "KDE Components". Has this changed or am I missing something? |
| 02:29.25 | wolsni | click on component chooser |
| 02:29.35 | wolsni | web browser should be one of the components you can choose |
| 02:29.50 | Gumby | its not there |
| 02:30.09 | Gumby | sorry, Component Chooser isnt there either. |
| 02:30.21 | icwiener | Does kcontrol in Kubuntu still work? I once heard it doesn't. |
| 02:30.24 | Gumby | in kcontrol its "KDE Components" |
| 02:30.39 | wolsni | it should be KControl -> KDE Components -> Component Chooser; I don't know about system settings |
| 02:30.47 | AmyRose | icwiener: Yes, it's there |
| 02:30.54 | AmyRose | enable the Settings menu |
| 02:31.41 | AmyRose | icwiener: After you do that, you'll be able to start kcontrol by going to K Menu--> Settings --> Control Center |
| 02:31.58 | Gumby | there is no "component chooser". There is only File Associations, File Manager, KDE Performance, KDE Resources, Service Manager, Session Manager, and Spell Checker |
| 02:32.00 | icwiener | Gumby: ^^ |
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| 02:32.35 | icwiener | AmyRose: thx for the explanation. |
| 02:32.49 | AmyRose | icwiener: You're welcome. I use it myself instead of System Settings |
| 02:33.17 | Gumby | AmyRose, where do I enable the Settings Menu? |
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| 02:34.06 | AmyRose | Gumby: Right-click the K menu and go to Panel Menu --> Configure Panel, and you'll find it under Menus |
| 02:34.33 | Gumby | I'm not using KDE so getting to the K menu is a bit of a problem. |
| 02:35.02 | AmyRose | Uh, I thought you just said you were |
| 02:35.16 | Gumby | I pretty much only use kontact but it opens links with konqueror and I am wanting to change that to firefox. Ive done it in the past without issue |
| 02:35.28 | AmyRose | Oh, then just run kcontrol |
| 02:35.29 | Gumby | maybe I am missing a package that enables the kde component chooser |
| 02:35.44 | AmyRose | Gumby: It's called Default Applications |
| 02:35.47 | Gumby | AmyRose, that is where "Component Chooser" does not show up |
| 02:35.56 | Gumby | AmyRose, under when category? |
| 02:36.10 | AmyRose | In System Settings, it should be right on the main screen |
| 02:36.23 | AmyRose | top row |
| 02:37.08 | Gumby | heh, System Settings doesnt exist. :) |
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| 02:39.06 | Gumby | Appearance and Themes, Desktop, Internet and Network, KDE Components (this is where the option usually is for me), Peripherals, Regional and Accessibility, Security and Privacy, Sound and Multimedia, System Administration |
| 02:40.22 | Gumby | looks like there is a kde-systemsettings package in ubuntu. this might be what I am missing |
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| 02:42.43 | AmyRose | Gumby: But why would you want to use Firefox when Konqueror is a better browser? :P |
| 02:42.59 | Gumby | AmyRose, opinions opinions :) |
| 02:43.02 | AmyRose | esp. now that DA fixed the bug I was having in the message centre |
| 02:43.10 | transient | and even better once it uses webcore |
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| 02:47.16 | |timrs| | i can't wait till webcore makes igoogle look normal in konqueror... |
| 02:47.33 | |timrs| | wait, its webkit, not webcore, isn't it? |
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| 02:48.22 | transient | one of them... |
| 02:49.18 | Gumby | kcmshell defaultapplication that fixed my problem |
| 02:49.25 | Gumby | thanks for the help guys and gals |
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| 03:00.07 | Frogbarf | I have realized that konqueror is causing mydesktop to freeze for several minutes and sometimes causes me to kill X remotely. Is this a known issue? |
| 03:00.16 | TomJ | my mouse has 'back' and 'forward' buttons that are not currently working.. do I configure these globally in KDE, or do I need to confiug them in each app like firefox? |
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| 03:05.18 | cruiseoveride | why cant i add a 4gb file to a udf image with k3b? |
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| 03:30.57 | warriomess | hey all, can a command with parameters be used in .desktop files? (for example: Exec="xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc") |
| 03:31.08 | warriomess | or, um, without the quotes |
| 03:35.16 | wolsni | warriomess: i believe so, yes |
| 03:36.00 | warriomess | wolsni: ok, thanks |
| 03:36.07 | warriomess | (without the quotes, right?) |
| 03:36.41 | wolsni | no, i don't think you need quotes |
| 03:36.43 | warriomess | ok |
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| 03:57.47 | chengming | hello |
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| 04:04.41 | Airer-girl | hi for karamba, how come text x=165 y=20 sensor=program program=Kernel: "uname -r" doesn't work? |
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| 04:05.18 | stoned | hi for karamba? |
| 04:05.39 | Airer-girl | um yep, hi hello, for karamba |
| 04:05.51 | stoned | for karamba? |
| 04:05.57 | Airer-girl | yup |
| 04:06.02 | stoned | why? |
| 04:06.17 | Airer-girl | why what? |
| 04:06.31 | stoned | why say hi for karamba |
| 04:06.34 | stoned | that makes no sense |
| 04:06.48 | Airer-girl | oh well, can I get help on karamba now? |
| 04:06.53 | stoned | maybe |
| 04:07.16 | stoned | if you stop saying hi for karamba maybe you can get help |
| 04:08.42 | Airer-girl | what do you suggest then? |
| 04:08.59 | stoned | don't use karamba |
| 04:09.11 | stoned | you don't need desktop widgets |
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| 04:09.47 | Airer-girl | I know you don't |
| 04:09.51 | Airer-girl | I like desktop widgets |
| 04:10.03 | stoned | I love desktop widgets, but I don't need them |
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| 04:10.39 | stoned | maybe you could look at an existing system monitor plugin and see how it is written, a similar line |
| 04:10.47 | stoned | I don't know the syntax of karamba themes |
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| 04:10.59 | Airer-girl | well I'm sure some of the kde users might |
| 04:11.46 | stoned | you will maybe get an answer if/when someone who knows how to make karamba themes is around |
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| 04:11.46 | stoned | until then, I am all you got |
| 04:11.46 | Airer-girl | ya |
| 04:11.46 | stoned | unless someone else is around |
| 04:11.54 | stoned | I say away with widgets |
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| 04:12.17 | Airer-girl | too bad I like widgets |
| 04:12.42 | stoned | why? |
| 04:13.23 | Airer-girl | because it looks good |
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| 04:18.09 | deadsouls | what is that app that plays text-to-speech? |
| 04:18.17 | deadsouls | it has a parrot for an icon... that's all i remember |
| 04:18.58 | stoned | kttsmgr |
| 04:19.34 | stoned | k text to speech manager |
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| 04:20.48 | stoned | Airer-girl: what widgets do you like? |
| 04:21.03 | stoned | Airer-girl: which ones do you use? |
| 04:21.19 | Airer-girl | none I make my own |
| 04:21.47 | stoned | but don't you already know which kernel you are running? |
| 04:21.58 | stoned | why do you need to constantly be reminded fo the kernel version ? |
| 04:22.04 | Airer-girl | no it would be good to have a reminder :) |
| 04:22.09 | Airer-girl | I have one side that's netstat |
| 04:22.16 | stoned | crazy |
| 04:22.19 | Airer-girl | the other side is monitor for heat, ram usage, top/pc, etcetc |
| 04:22.21 | Airer-girl | ps* not pc |
| 04:22.32 | Airer-girl | the kernel thing is just a tiny reminder |
| 04:24.25 | kemalince | how do i get lime wire for for sabayon its not in the portage |
| 04:27.14 | unity | maybe frostwire is |
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| 04:27.30 | unity | otherwise, consider gtk-gnutella |
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| 04:28.01 | kemalince | am new so can u give me steps how 2 install it |
| 04:28.40 | unity | try #sabayon |
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| 04:57.51 | litage | what should i do if my kdesktop process becomes a zombie? i've tried sending it several signals, including term, hup and kill, but it won't die: nick 31572 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? Z Aug09 0:00 [kdesktop] <defunct> |
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| 04:59.30 | DaSkreech | litage: It will probably be cleaned by the kernel in a minute or so |
| 04:59.56 | litage | DaSkreech: it's been almost 5 minutes so far.. |
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| 05:00.37 | DaSkreech | litage: Is it blocking something? |
| 05:01.25 | litage | DaSkreech: it's rendered my desktop environment unusable.. |
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| 05:03.39 | dcestari | anyone heard about kecko? |
| 05:03.46 | dcestari | what's up with that now? |
| 05:04.19 | DaSkreech | What is it? |
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| 05:06.38 | zak_ | Hey |
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| 05:07.28 | dcestari | DaSkreech: a port of Gecko for KDE |
| 05:07.47 | DaSkreech | Why? |
| 05:07.47 | dcestari | DaSkreech: enabling Konqueror to use Gecko asides from KHTML |
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| 05:08.40 | kilomang | the number of desktops i haev screwed up |
| 05:08.48 | kilomang | it syas 1, but theres really 4 |
| 05:08.51 | kilomang | and if i put 2, it goes to 8 |
| 05:09.05 | zak_ | you using compizfusion/beryl? |
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| 05:09.56 | kilomang | yes |
| 05:09.57 | kilomang | beryl |
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| 05:11.13 | DaSkreech | Ah |
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| 05:11.31 | zak_ | who here is using fedoracore? |
| 05:11.35 | zak_ | preferably 7+ |
| 05:11.39 | DaSkreech | #beryl |
| 05:11.50 | zak_ | sick theres a beryl channel? |
| 05:12.09 | zak_ | is there a fedora one? |
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| 05:13.01 | DaSkreech | #fedora |
| 05:13.09 | DaSkreech | zak_: 7+ what? |
| 05:13.32 | zak_ | fedora. |
| 05:13.34 | zak_ | ohh thx |
| 05:13.35 | zak_ | lol |
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| 05:39.35 | kinection | anybody have experience with kmyfirewall here? |
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| 05:44.37 | kinection | nvm it's an RPD vs. iptables issue |
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| 06:28.05 | Anonycat | In Noatun, is there any way of predictably increasing or decreasing pitch by a fixed amound, rather than having to rely on an analog slider? |
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| 06:31.52 | ssokolow | Does anyone know of a Konqueror-compatible equivalent to the "Use mplayerplug-in with YouTube" GreaseMonkey script? (other than using a rewriting proxy) |
| 06:32.49 | vbgunz | anyone know what the command is to get the login window? I had a problem starting X so I said startx and it appears it wiped out the "switch user" option in my main menu :( |
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| 06:33.03 | ssokolow | Gnash doesn't yet do YouTube (I'm running CVS HEAD from two days ago) and I'd really like to see if I can save a non-trivial portion of my processor cycles by using something better suited to playing back video. (mplayer) |
| 06:33.50 | ssokolow | Oh, and it'd also be nice to remove another item from my list of dependencies for the 32-bit compatibility libs. (I'm running 64-bit Linux) |
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| 06:38.15 | rorachan | My system notifications aren't working. My Master and PCM volume is up, though. I can listen to music. I can even play the system sound files in mplayer. |
| 06:38.41 | rorachan | I've already asked in #gentoo. No help. |
| 06:38.46 | rorachan | Any other suggestions? |
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| 06:39.35 | Vinay-blr | NoW LiStEnInG To:rOjA JaNeMaN.Mp3 |
| 06:39.35 | Vinay-blr | Now listening to:Roja Janeman.mp3 |
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| 06:41.35 | Tuju | any idea why i can't log in to a trac page with konqueror? it works with firefox. |
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| 06:46.55 | qupada | rorachan: bug in knotify. need to build kdelibs with USE="arts" |
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| 06:47.17 | qupada | rorachan: you don't actually have to have arts running, but disabling it breaks the ability to have notifications at all |
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| 06:49.05 | BadRobot | hi there |
| 06:49.38 | BadRobot | i have deleted by mistake the top panel,so how could i get it back |
| 06:49.39 | BadRobot | ??? |
| 06:50.14 | rorachan | I got it working...instead of using KDE sound system, I selected mplayer. |
| 06:50.15 | Tuju | alt+f2, kicker |
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| 06:52.18 | BadRobot | so anyone?Just because i have many applications runnnig ,so i can't turn them off |
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| 06:53.07 | slann | BadRobot: you could right-click on the desktop |
| 06:53.16 | slann | configure desktop |
| 06:53.25 | slann | behaviour |
| 06:53.39 | slann | Menu bar on to of screen |
| 06:53.50 | BadRobot | ok i will ry |
| 06:53.54 | slann | and you pick one of the choices |
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| 06:54.04 | slann | otherwise |
| 06:54.14 | slann | if you _killed_ the panel |
| 06:54.28 | slann | alt-F2 will bring up a command prompt |
| 06:54.37 | slann | and you just type kicker |
| 06:54.41 | slann | and enter |
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| 07:03.31 | BadRobot | it worked but isn't the one that i need |
| 07:03.45 | BadRobot | slann |
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| 07:05.06 | BadRobot | because i am using sabayon,i've kmenu and a panel on the top with the clock,knetwork-manager,sound and calendar,so this one i would like to get back |
| 07:05.32 | bluestorm | hm |
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| 07:07.12 | bluestorm | i have a kinda trollish question |
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| 07:07.46 | bluestorm | i'm using gentoo right now, but as i know i'll not have time to compile anymore in the future, i would like to try a binary distribution |
| 07:08.12 | BadRobot | they take ages |
| 07:08.23 | bluestorm | one of the most important aspect of the distribution to my eyes is the KDE part |
| 07:08.28 | BadRobot | try the bin files i think they take less time |
| 07:08.33 | bluestorm | hm |
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| 07:08.46 | bluestorm | than binary distributions ? |
| 07:08.50 | BadRobot | i was 5 hours trying to install KOffice |
| 07:08.55 | BadRobot | yep |
| 07:08.59 | bluestorm | hm |
| 07:09.29 | BadRobot | then i just could stand that anymore |
| 07:09.30 | qupada | bluestorm: i know this comment will get me labelled as a troll by some, but if you want kde you don't want a binary distro |
| 07:09.39 | bluestorm | hm |
| 07:09.42 | qupada | they always try and patch it too far and end up fucking everything up |
| 07:10.06 | BadRobot | does anyone knows if the is a rollback/rowback or something like that on sabayon? |
| 07:10.56 | kitkat | rollback? your entire system or just some packages? |
| 07:11.16 | BadRobot | maybe entire system settingd |
| 07:11.20 | BadRobot | settings |
| 07:11.49 | bluestorm | what would you see as the most KDE4-aware distribution ? |
| 07:12.02 | BadRobot | sabayon |
| 07:12.04 | bluestorm | hm |
| 07:12.10 | bluestorm | does sabayon have binary packages ? |
| 07:12.24 | kitkat | no it s gentoo |
| 07:13.02 | bluestorm | i heard of some gentoo-derived distro ( bintoo ? ) that provided binaries by default |
| 07:13.11 | kitkat | only binary from the base system from the live cd/dvd |
| 07:13.27 | bluestorm | ok |
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| 07:15.56 | qupada | bluestorm: it is my experience that if you "don't have time" for gentoo updates, generally you're better off just scheduling them for 3am with a cron job |
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| 07:16.46 | qupada | that's how my desktop machine at work is set up, apart from things i've installed during work days, never had to wait for an update because they're all finished when i get there in the morning |
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| 07:16.56 | bluestorm | hm |
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| 07:25.47 | eric__ | cucaloca |
| 07:25.54 | BadRobot | does someone knows hhhow to create a new user on kde? |
| 07:26.10 | eric_ | cicaloca |
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| 07:27.26 | eric_ | how do I update /etc/*/.devfs after the install? |
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| 07:28.30 | eric_ | does anyone know how to update the devfs after a clean install? |
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| 07:31.14 | Javanon | hey hey |
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| 07:32.28 | Javanon | do default video settings in konqueror apply to firefox as well? |
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| 07:33.17 | Javanon | i somehow changed my default embedded player and im trying to retrace so i can undo whatever change i made |
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| 07:41.33 | slann | Javanon: normally, no |
| 07:42.25 | slann | BadRobot: there is a program called kuser |
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| 07:42.58 | thresh | hi guys. is it possible somehow to order konsole tas alphabetically? |
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| 07:51.42 | Anonycat | In Noatun, is there any way of predictably increasing or decreasing pitch by a fixed amound, rather than having to rely on an analog slider? |
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| 08:49.33 | `VL | anybody have an idea why kpdf has max 400% zoom level? |
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| 08:50.19 | pinotree | i do |
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| 09:39.27 | JeremFrSe | hi |
| 09:39.29 | JeremFrSe | when i try to build strigi (which is required to build kdelibs) I got : fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file 'libQtGui4.a.lib' |
| 09:39.35 | JeremFrSe | using visual studio 2005 |
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| 09:59.51 | MarcoPau | hey I'm searching for a good id3 tag renamer, any hint? |
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| 10:12.00 | WishMasterNND | MarcoPau: AmaroK ... |
| 10:12.31 | Komzpa | MarcoPau, try EasyTag, but it's not kde. |
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| 10:21.33 | netuser_ | is there any download accelerator for kde? |
| 10:21.54 | Komzpa | netuser_, kget? |
| 10:22.58 | runlevelten | kget and bash+wget |
| 10:23.10 | runlevelten | :) |
| 10:23.14 | netuser_ | Komzpa: kget, afaik, is a download manager, doesnt do download acceleration ala DAP from windows? |
| 10:24.02 | padde | lftp is great for that |
| 10:24.04 | Komzpa | netuser_, how could you accelerate the download? |
| 10:24.08 | Richlv | 'accelerator' ? |
| 10:24.11 | WishMasterNND | netuser_: What's DAP? Is it the Democratic Action Party from Malaysia? |
| 10:24.11 | Richlv | sounds like scamword |
| 10:24.13 | padde | pget command of lftp |
| 10:24.23 | Richlv | scamword/buzzword |
| 10:24.46 | netuser_ | WishMasterNND: lol, u local? :) |
| 10:24.46 | runlevelten | Download Accelerator Plus doesn't really do very much acceleration. |
| 10:24.46 | padde | by opening multiple connections |
| 10:25.07 | WishMasterNND | Nah, I'm not. I just searched for "DAP" in my local Wikipedia ;) |
| 10:25.08 | padde | for example because the stupid ISP limits each tcp connection |
| 10:25.12 | netuser_ | DAP = download accelerator Plus - a program that abuses the resume function of certain sites to boost download speed by making multiple resume requests starting at different part of the file |
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| 10:26.13 | runlevelten | You could write a shell script that gave you the same debatable "advantages" of DAP. |
| 10:26.17 | Komzpa | hm... try d4x. but it's also not from kde :) |
| 10:26.24 | chx | How could I add an external tool which is similar to google current selection just with a different engine? |
| 10:26.30 | padde | for some months or so i get ridiculously low dowwnload rates if i download through one tcp connection |
| 10:26.30 | netuser_ | Komzpa: ok will look into it |
| 10:26.34 | chx | I mean, to KATE :) |
| 10:26.48 | MarcoPau | WishMasterNND, Komzpa: thanks I'll take a look at them |
| 10:26.52 | netuser_ | runlevelten: well, where i am, the difference is noticable |
| 10:29.51 | WishMasterNND | netuser_: I'd be glad if I my connection (40KiB/s) was strong enough to use the normal bandwidth of most servers, so don't be ingrate to you ISP ;) |
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| 10:31.49 | runlevelten | I think what she's saying is that hers isn't, to be fair. |
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| 10:33.26 | netuser_ | WishMasterNND: well, i dunno if its the ISP thats limiting me since i can get some direct dl from certain sites reaching 40kbps while other stutter along at 2 |
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| 10:34.39 | runlevelten | netuser_: you haven't got someone else shaping your traffic have you? |
| 10:34.53 | runlevelten | ie: a gamer or someone you're sharing with. |
| 10:34.55 | netuser_ | runlevelten: uhm, not that i know |
| 10:35.15 | netuser_ | i'm usually the resident computer geek in my house :) |
| 10:35.38 | runlevelten | have you talked to your ISP about it? |
| 10:36.02 | netuser_ | nope, i'm taking by your reaction that what i'm experiencing is not normal? |
| 10:36.04 | runlevelten | I just get on the blower to the techs at mine and have a chat with them. |
| 10:36.14 | runlevelten | well, the interwebs, heh. |
| 10:36.38 | netuser_ | for example getting 20k from 3dgamers.com but only 5 from filefront |
| 10:36.59 | runlevelten | netuser_: Well, it's not normal for a lot of places. If you live in some really isolated place it might be. |
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| 10:37.56 | netuser_ | runlevelten: well, all i know is that my ISP trottles bittorrents at daytime, but other than that, i dont think they are limiting any bandwidth |
| 10:38.22 | runlevelten | caveat: it's better to find out where the techs for your isp hang out online than to phone premium rate lines and get salespeople. |
| 10:38.38 | netuser_ | true |
| 10:38.52 | netuser_ | but i have to wonder if they do hang out online at all |
| 10:39.01 | netuser_ | anyway, thanks |
| 10:39.09 | netuser_ | brb, going to restart my xsession |
| 10:39.15 | runlevelten | bon appetit :) |
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| 12:31.22 | bullgard4 | Wie kann ich 4000 Datensätze, die sich in einer CSV-Datei befinden, an eine Kexi-Tabelle anhängen? |
| 12:32.13 | bullgard4 | How can I append 4000 records which are stored in a CSV file to a Kexi table? |
| 12:32.35 | bullgard4 | hi Czessi ! |
| 12:32.51 | Czessi | Morgen bullgard4 |
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| 12:33.15 | WishMasterNND | bullgard4: Es gibt auch einen deutschen KDE-IRC-Raum, bei #kde.de. The #kde language is English. |
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| 12:34.21 | codesquid | Hello |
| 12:34.40 | codesquid | I have a problem with the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable |
| 12:34.47 | codesquid | KDE always clears it |
| 12:35.18 | codesquid | I can set all other environment variables and they work in every program I start |
| 12:35.25 | codesquid | just LD_LIBRARY_PATH comes up empty all the time |
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| 12:42.01 | slann | why do you need this variable set ? |
| 12:42.17 | codesquid | because I got some libraries installed in a custom prefix |
| 12:42.29 | slann | is /etc/ld.so.conf pointing to to wrong directory |
| 12:43.00 | logixoul | codesquid: you can grep for LD_LIBRARY_PATH in startkde, ~/.kde/share/env/, ~/.kde/Autostart/, $KDEDIR/share/env/, $KDEDIR/Autostart |
| 12:43.11 | slann | but it would seem strange that KDE clears it |
| 12:43.22 | codesquid | hmm I think I found a possible reason |
| 12:43.26 | slann | I would think KDE completely ignores it... |
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| 12:44.07 | slann | as it relies on QTDIR and KDEDIR to locate what it needs |
| 12:44.07 | codesquid | start_kdeinit is setuid and could clear it |
| 12:45.18 | codesquid | brb, checking if dropping setuid helps |
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| 12:46.15 | codesquid | ah nice, that worked |
| 12:46.34 | codesquid | chmod -s /usr/kde/3.5/bin/start_kdeinit fixed it |
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| 13:34.05 | hydrogen | if I get "Starting tls failed" when trying to connect to an imap account via tls.. .what am I missing? |
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| 13:51.49 | xxxxx | íàðîä êòîíèáóäü òóò íà ðóññêîì ÿÿçûêå ïîíèìàåò? |
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| 13:52.37 | WishMasterNND | xxxxx: Great, you *can* do UTF8 ... |
| 13:53.19 | xxxxx | WishMasterNND ÿ òåáÿ íå ïîíèìàþ! |
| 13:54.03 | MinceR | doesn't look like that to me |
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| 13:56.16 | WishMasterNND | Hum ... it could be some Russian transcription. |
| 13:56.34 | xxxxx | õì.. |
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| 13:57.46 | Komzpa | xxxxx, use English or at least translit |
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| 14:01.14 | xxxxx | I do not understand people on àíãëèñêëì language you tell with what countries õîòÿáû? Yours irc a network ? |
| 14:02.02 | pinotree | oh, at least something readable |
| 14:02.16 | Komzpa | xxxxx, eto mezdunarodnyi irc. |
| 14:03.49 | WishMasterNND | Komzpa: hu? |
| 14:05.00 | Komzpa | WishMasterNND, he used web-translator or sth like that, untranslated words are from russian, so I answered in translit :) |
| 14:06.08 | xxxxx | Komzpa da imenno tak |
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| 14:28.23 | hsn_ | is easy to join kde translation team? |
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| 14:29.01 | pinotree | just contact the translation team of your language |
| 14:29.23 | pinotree | on l10n.kde.org you find (almost) all the info you need |
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| 14:48.36 | chuy_max | hi |
| 14:49.10 | chuy_max | is there any weight/lenght/volume/etc calculator out there? |
| 14:49.27 | Al2O3_ | hi, I have SuSE 10 installed, with KDE running, and xvncserver, fo which I can connect, but I only get a blank X11 terminal/desktop instead of a windowing system. How do I tell xvncserver to not create a new terminal when a connection is made, and instead just use what is on the monitor that is connected to the system? |
| 14:49.33 | chuy_max | I might do an open source one, but I don't want to find that there are plenty when I'm done |
| 14:50.53 | Al2O3_ | in summary, how do I make xvncserver show KDE and what is currently on the monitor to the VNC client? |
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| 15:02.11 | wert613 | I'm having trouble with konqueror, after changing the style in KDE the text in the web based buttons in konqueror has turned a very light grey and impossible to read, changing the color of the button text ion colors doesnt work, I cannot think of anything else, any ideas? |
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| 15:05.23 | wert613 | anyone? |
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| 15:08.18 | xudotoo | is there a way to get my entire desktop double buffered/vsync? no more window tear etc.. |
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| 15:08.43 | MrMeoff | does anyone here use semantik? |
| 15:10.27 | xudotoo | i remember 15 years ago it was called bad programming if something was not vsync . and yet today we use desktops that have not vsync. why? why is this so forgotten |
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| 15:12.10 | illogic-al | yoyoyo |
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| 15:22.32 | FreshPrince | yo |
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| 15:24.40 | FunctorSalad | is there some way to set the positions of the desktop icons programmatically? I was thinking DCOP but can't find a suitable function |
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| 15:30.41 | Al2O3 | ok, turns out the system with xvncserver had 3 instances (somehow, not sure how) of xvncserver running at once. |
| 15:30.50 | Al2O3 | turned two off and it seems to work now. |
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| 15:51.40 | Artimus | Is there anyway to make the System Tray span multiple lines? I've recently come to love the Quick Launcher application to add multiple lines of icons to my kicker panel. I'd like the system tray to span multiple lines, as it takes up too much space right now with only one icon per column |
| 15:52.55 | FunctorSalad | sorry I don't know how, but I recently found out you can hide tray icons ;) |
| 15:53.24 | benJIman | Artimus: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/System+Tray+2+(with+icon+hiding+support)?content=17732 |
| 15:53.51 | Artimus | benJIman: Looks great |
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| 16:10.25 | HenryTheVIII | Hi! I'm using hebrew. When I choose an english font which doesn't include hebrew, KDE uses a default font which include hebrew when I hebrew is used. How can I choose that default font? |
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| 16:23.12 | Artimus | benJIman: Turns out that doesn't work. Not a bad little app. But that just lets you hide icons with an ugly Windows like arrow. |
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| 16:25.12 | Artimus | hmm... Oh, looks like I was wrong. |
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| 16:26.18 | cristi | hallo.. u all have linux? |
| 16:26.39 | Thundercloud | Just a bit |
| 16:26.50 | Artimus | cristi: Barring a few Mac users, probably |
| 16:27.02 | cristi | :) |
| 16:27.14 | Pinaraf | cristi: I suppose you'll find some *BSD users here |
| 16:27.26 | cristi | can u hellp me please? i have sabayon linux |
| 16:27.36 | Pinaraf | but it's mainly UNIX or Linux based systems... |
| 16:27.38 | illogic-al | yes. we all have linux. |
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| 16:28.51 | cristi | how can i change my root pass? |
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| 16:29.41 | Pinaraf | cristi: use the command passwd |
| 16:29.58 | Pinaraf | you log in as root in the console (using su) |
| 16:30.00 | cristi | not working |
| 16:30.18 | Artimus | cristi: sudo passwd |
| 16:30.59 | cristi | cristi is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
| 16:31.00 | cristi | :| |
| 16:31.06 | cristi | why it sais that? |
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| 16:32.34 | cristi | whit su i can login... but if i want to change pass i cant |
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| 16:34.16 | cristi | :) |
| 16:34.42 | Pinaraf | use the command passwd |
| 16:34.50 | Pinaraf | that's the way to change a password. |
| 16:34.56 | cristi | i know |
| 16:35.01 | cristi | but it dont work |
| 16:35.08 | Pinaraf | doesn't mean anything. |
| 16:35.11 | Pinaraf | doesn't work = ? |
| 16:35.15 | cristi | yes |
| 16:35.16 | Pinaraf | is there an error message ? |
| 16:35.21 | Pinaraf | is there something in the logs ? |
| 16:35.23 | cristi | sorry my englis is bad |
| 16:35.51 | cristi | BAD PASSWORD: it is based on a dictionary word |
| 16:36.05 | Pinaraf | your new password isn't strong enough. |
| 16:36.14 | cristi | :) |
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| 16:36.28 | Pinaraf | you must use a real password there. |
| 16:36.41 | cristi | :) |
| 16:36.47 | cristi | it work |
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| 16:36.50 | cristi | tanks |
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| 16:39.10 | nosredna_ekim | hey, I lost my toolbar in kmail... I selectecd something from the "position menu" you know where they say [where to put the toolbar? |
| 16:39.30 | nosredna_ekim | I forgot what I selected, it was like the last option or second to last. |
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| 16:40.46 | nosredna_ekim | does anyone know how to get the tool bar back? |
| 16:40.55 | nosredna_ekim | or at least know the name of that last option? |
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| 16:42.11 | cristi | how do i instal opera? |
| 16:42.58 | pinotree | cristi: wrong channel, sorry |
| 16:43.12 | cristi | why? |
| 16:43.21 | pinotree | this is #kde |
| 16:43.29 | cristi | ok |
| 16:43.36 | cristi | sorry, i'm new in linux |
| 16:43.44 | cristi | give the right chanel |
| 16:43.52 | nosredna_ekim | #opera maybe... |
| 16:44.05 | nosredna_ekim | cristi: actaully, what distro are you using? |
| 16:44.24 | cristi | distro? |
| 16:44.42 | nosredna_ekim | distribution.... Kubuntu, Suse, Mandriva..... |
| 16:44.48 | cristi | sabayon |
| 16:44.59 | nosredna_ekim | #sabayon then ! |
| 16:46.12 | cristi | ok |
| 16:46.12 | cristi | tanks |
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| 16:46.41 | cristi | :| |
| 16:49.46 | cristi | what linux u recomend is better? |
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| 16:50.27 | nosredna_ekim | cristi: you don't like sabayon? |
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| 16:51.06 | cristi | yes i do.. |
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| 17:00.10 | nosredna_ekim | oh... well I use Kubuntu.... but sabayon is OK too. |
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| 17:04.46 | benJIman | Artimus: See the screenshot, you can have multiple rows too. |
| 17:05.14 | Artimus | benJIman: Yeah, I see that, it goes off of the icon size settings. I'm guessing I need to restart KDE to make the changes take effect. |
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| 17:13.15 | Sho_ | nosredna_ekim: ah, you're still alive :) |
| 17:13.38 | nosredna_ekim | yeah.... was I supposed to be something else? |
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| 17:13.53 | Sho_ | nosredna_ekim: Didn't see you around much lately :) |
| 17:14.05 | nosredna_ekim | Sho_: do I "know" you? |
| 17:14.19 | Flyser | hi, how can I enable this nice osd, when changing the Volume? |
| 17:14.31 | nosredna_ekim | Flyser: amarok? |
| 17:14.43 | Flyser | nosredna_ekim: no in kde |
| 17:14.47 | Sho_ | nosredna_ekim: umm, I thought you were Anders 'sredna' Lund - maybe I'm mistaken ;) |
| 17:15.18 | nosredna_ekim | Sho_: Michael Anderson :) |
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| 17:15.27 | nosredna_ekim | very mistaken:) |
| 17:15.34 | Sho_ | nosredna_ekim: hehe, sorry about that then :) |
| 17:15.41 | nosredna_ekim | haha... its ok :) |
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| 17:23.04 | teclo | Hello, how can I take a screenshot of the graphical login screen (which is handled by kdm or something ) ? |
| 17:23.46 | nosredna_ekim | teclo: camera + usb port :) |
| 17:24.05 | teclo | nosredna_ekim: well yeah, I though of that :) |
| 17:24.22 | nosredna_ekim | I'm not sure how they do it actually. |
| 17:25.40 | Sho_ | I'd probably start it in Xephyr and use ksnapshot |
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| 17:25.50 | Sho_ | Seems most convenient |
| 17:26.04 | teclo | yes, I know ksnapshot :) |
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| 17:26.23 | nosredna_ekim | indeed... we have a genius in our midst :) |
| 17:26.25 | teclo | but uhh, how can I start ksnapshot and tell it to take ascreenshot while kdm is running ? |
| 17:26.44 | nosredna_ekim | teclo: embed KDM in a Xephyr session |
| 17:26.48 | Sho_ | teclo: Using Xephyr, which is a nesting X server, i.e. an X server that appears as a regular window on another X screen |
| 17:26.57 | Sho_ | teclo: That way you can start kdm on your KDE desktop (in Xephyr) |
| 17:27.06 | Sho_ | teclo: And then take a screenshot of the Xephyr window using ksnapshot |
| 17:27.07 | teclo | Sho_: aaah |
| 17:27.09 | teclo | didn't know that |
| 17:27.25 | teclo | Sho_: gonna try that |
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| 17:28.00 | WishMasterNND | It'd probably work much easier with import. |
| 17:28.01 | kanzure | So I am trying to figure out how bookmarks work |
| 17:28.02 | kanzure | http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/cvs-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kio/bookmarks/html/hierarchy.html |
| 17:28.07 | Sho_ | The alternative would be to use a command line screenshotting tool that can connect to an X display. You'd switch to a different tty using (Ctrl+)Alt+Fn, then export the DISPLAY environment variable, and use the command line utility. |
| 17:28.18 | kanzure | I can't tell how the XBEL XML files are loaded- are they loaded directly into a list data structure and if so where? |
| 17:28.18 | Sho_ | But the Xephyr variant would be more convenient to me, personally |
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| 17:29.37 | Sho_ | kanzure: It's a QList of KBookmark instances |
| 17:30.12 | kanzure | yikes |
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| 17:31.24 | kanzure | Is that so good of an idea? |
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| 17:31.39 | kanzure | Doesn't look very scalable .. why not just access part of the data file that is needed at a time? |
| 17:31.49 | vash | Hey, my kstartupconfig says it's broken and I need to check the installation any suggestions? |
| 17:32.34 | kanzure | pinotree, Heh, just kind of concerned- keditbookmarks and friends crashes my system when I load a > 2 megabyte file, so I'm thinking there's something wrong with the design |
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| 17:32.39 | kanzure | and sure enough, it loads everything up at once |
| 17:32.41 | Sho_ | kanzure: Depending on what you're working with extra I/O activity might be worse than having the bookmarks in memory (think spinning up a laptop drive) |
| 17:32.43 | kanzure | enough to throw any system into shock |
| 17:33.03 | pinotree | kanzure: a 2mb file should not be a soo much bug deal |
| 17:33.05 | pinotree | *big |
| 17:33.22 | kanzure | I wonder why my system starts throwing up with it, then |
| 17:33.30 | kanzure | quite strange :) |
| 17:33.54 | pinotree | then file a bug |
| 17:34.48 | Sho_ | kanzure: Well it's beta quality code (the APIDOX you linked to are for KDE4) |
| 17:35.13 | kanzure | Sho_: Ah, that too is a good point. I didn't even realize that, I'm running 3.2 anyway. :) |
| 17:35.26 | Sho_ | kanzure: 3.2 otoh is fairly ancient ;) |
| 17:35.40 | nosredna_ekim | yikes.. that is old |
| 17:35.42 | vash | ;_; |
| 17:35.44 | kanzure | haha, really? |
| 17:35.46 | nosredna_ekim | whats that.. linspire? |
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| 17:35.53 | nosredna_ekim | kanzure: stable is 3.5.7 |
| 17:35.58 | kanzure | nosredna_ekim: Debian etch :-/ |
| 17:36.03 | kanzure | nosredna_ekim: Guess it's time for me to update :) |
| 17:36.05 | nosredna_ekim | 3.2 i at least 3 years old |
| 17:36.12 | kanzure | Will my configuration files stay put in my update? |
| 17:36.13 | Sho_ | nosredna_ekim: 3 1/2 years, iirc |
| 17:36.13 | cakofony | anybody know when kde4 is supposed to be released? |
| 17:36.15 | Sho_ | err, kanzure |
| 17:36.23 | cakofony | kde4* |
| 17:36.26 | nosredna_ekim | cakofony: octoberish |
| 17:36.33 | kanzure | Sho_: ? |
| 17:36.34 | cakofony | cool, thanks |
| 17:36.34 | Sho_ | kanzure: Current stable is 3.5.7, which, well, is three 1/2 years better than 3.2 ;) |
| 17:36.56 | Sho_ | kanzure: the "err, kanzure" meant that "<Sho_> nosredna_ekim: 3 1/2 years, iirc" was supposed to be for you rather than nosredna_ekim |
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| 17:37.07 | kanzure | Ah, wait, how do I check which version I am running ? |
| 17:37.11 | nosredna_ekim | kanzure: get kubuntu or something which is more up-to-date |
| 17:37.16 | Sho_ | kanzure: and yes, your config should survive 3.2 -> 3.5 |
| 17:37.29 | Sho_ | kanzure: KDE has technology in place to handle configuration file format transformations as needed |
| 17:37.38 | kanzure | Sho_: I misread the vertical numbering on the KDE menu- it's apparently 3.5 ;) |
| 17:37.41 | kanzure | So no need to worry |
| 17:37.52 | Sho_ | (Although I recommend closing the KDE session before updating) |
| 17:38.03 | Sho_ | kanzure: ah |
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| 17:39.08 | nosredna_ekim | kanzure: that better :) |
| 17:41.51 | kanzure | I can't seem to find an API reference for 3.5 |
| 17:42.08 | kanzure | http://api.kde.org/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/ ah, it was hidden and not on developer.kde.org |
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| 17:44.21 | Sho_ | kanzure: btw, http://techbase.kde.org/ is supplanting developer.kde.org |
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| 17:52.51 | vash | how do i check my kstartupconfig installation? |
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| 17:56.46 | nosredna_ekim | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/196748 |
| 17:57.00 | nosredna_ekim | whoops... wrong paste :) |
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| 17:57.13 | nosredna_ekim | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:58.33 | vash | nosredna_ekim: was that intended for me >>? |
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| 17:59.10 | pinotree | nosredna_ekim: "flatmode"? |
| 17:59.14 | nosredna_ekim | no :) I pasted the wrong thing. |
| 17:59.24 | vash | rofl |
| 17:59.41 | nosredna_ekim | pinotree: yeah... right click on one fo your kmail tool bars and its under "location" |
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| 18:00.27 | pinotree | nosredna_ekim: click on its handle on the left |
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| 18:06.42 | nosredna_ekim | I don't see a handle... |
| 18:08.56 | nosredna_ekim | how can I reset the Kmail user interface? |
| 18:09.07 | nosredna_ekim | is there a RC file somewhere? |
| 18:09.33 | pinotree | nosredna_ekim: on the left, horizontal and thin |
| 18:10.01 | runlevelten | v... |
| 18:10.12 | nosredna_ekim | don't see one.....maybe its this theme... |
| 18:10.23 | runlevelten | vertical. |
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| 18:11.41 | nosredna_ekim | nope... |
| 18:12.58 | nosredna_ekim | wow thats weird.... baghira wasn't showing it.... switched to keramik and it was there :) thanks |
| 18:13.33 | pinotree | nosredna_ekim: i'd report that to the baghira developers |
| 18:13.46 | nosredna_ekim | indeed. |
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| 18:21.30 | AnjumButt | hello |
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| 18:22.21 | AnjumButt | hi |
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| 18:23.03 | AnjumButt | i need a little advise |
| 18:23.46 | AnjumButt | is there any opensource project that provides voice and video conferencing |
| 18:23.57 | AnjumButt | ? |
| 18:24.39 | nosredna_ekim | AnjumButt: hmmm.... dunno. google it |
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| 18:25.37 | AnjumButt | well i'm having hard time finding one |
| 18:25.49 | AnjumButt | and all the commercial ones are not up to it |
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| 18:26.50 | nosredna_ekim | write one :) |
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| 18:57.52 | FunctorSalad | sorry for repeating, maybe someone know it now: is there some way to set the positions of the desktop icons programmatically? I was thinking DCOP but can't find a suitable function |
| 18:58.53 | FunctorSalad | it's not that important but I was thinking of arranging them in a circle or sine wave or something instead of the boring grid :) |
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| 19:00.12 | Liquid_Fire | ~/.kde/share/apps/kdesktop/IconPoitions ? |
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| 19:00.28 | Liquid_Fire | *Positions |
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| 19:03.48 | FunctorSalad | I think I tried that or something similar, but doesn't seem to do anything. probably gets overwritten from the current state |
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| 19:04.56 | FunctorSalad | I'd probably have to edit it and then crash kde ;) |
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| 19:05.03 | Liquid_Fire | ah, yeah, probably... well it's a bit of a hack but maybe if you make it read only |
| 19:05.10 | Liquid_Fire | and then force kdesktop to reread it.. |
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| 19:10.26 | FunctorSalad | hmm, if I edit it and then right click on desktop -> refresh desktop, the icon doesn't move, but neither does the file get changed back. if I move the icon by hand, the file gets changed back. |
| 19:10.37 | sdousley | Anyone here know of a KDE applet that sits in the tray at the bottom that monitors a pop3 account? |
| 19:11.18 | Sho_ | sdousley: Can't remember a name, but there's a bunch of them on kde-apps.org |
| 19:11.36 | Sho_ | Actually I think we have one somewhere within KDE itself, too ... |
| 19:11.37 | runlevelten | like kbiff and stuff. |
| 19:11.45 | sdousley | Sho_: I'll take a look thanks. I looked in portage (i use gentoo) but couldn't see anything KDE related! |
| 19:12.03 | runlevelten | there are a few nice superkaramba bits that do that, too. |
| 19:12.03 | sdousley | runlevelten: that would do i would think :) |
| 19:12.44 | runlevelten | Good, good. :) |
| 19:12.52 | sdousley | I'll install it n see how it is :) |
| 19:12.52 | Sho_ | kbiff is in Portage, too |
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| 19:13.26 | sdousley | yup :) |
| 19:13.30 | sdousley | checked that already hehe |
| 19:13.41 | FunctorSalad | sdousley: it's not exactly leightweight, but what I do is ksystraycmd thunderbird and use the extension that allows you to fine-tune notifications ;) |
| 19:13.47 | runlevelten | Did kbiff get prettified yet? |
| 19:13.59 | sdousley | FunctorSalad: i dont check the email on this machine, i check it on my laptop |
| 19:14.06 | sdousley | just want a notification that there's an email there |
| 19:14.18 | sdousley | runlevelten: i'll tell you in an hour once it's compiled!! |
| 19:14.23 | FunctorSalad | ah ok, you don't have to make it delete the stuff from the server though |
| 19:14.25 | nosredna_ekim | pinotree: hey.. I take that back about baghira... It does show the little widget for a minimized taskbar |
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| 19:15.50 | nosredna_ekim | what is wrong with it? |
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| 19:16.18 | Sho_ | Oh, nothing. It's a well-done collection of rendering errors and bugs (I assume that was the design goal) |
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| 19:16.53 | vash | rofl |
| 19:17.05 | nosredna_ekim | haha.... it works fine except when I try to apply it to GTK apps. |
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| 19:17.35 | FunctorSalad | can I terminate and restart kdesktop without something breaking? |
| 19:17.39 | vash | what actually is "baghira"? |
| 19:17.50 | nosredna_ekim | vash: a KDE style mimicking MAC |
| 19:18.02 | vash | nosredna_ekim: oh |
| 19:18.03 | FunctorSalad | (don't know how to get it to reload icons otherwise, refresh doesnt work) |
| 19:18.08 | Sho_ | vash: It's a badly done rip-off of Apple's "Aqua" application UI visuals |
| 19:18.19 | vash | rofl |
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| 19:18.56 | nosredna_ekim | I just like the brushed aluminum look |
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| 19:19.11 | nosredna_ekim | tinted reddish.... ahh... its beautiful. |
| 19:19.14 | nosredna_ekim | sorry.... |
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| 19:19.30 | sdousley | hmmm, kbiff assumes you have kmail or some email client installed |
| 19:19.46 | vash | nosredna_ekim: Well, tbh I do like red. |
| 19:20.03 | nosredna_ekim | with beryl and MAC window decorations... |
| 19:20.11 | Sho_ | vash: Implementing Apple's visuals in a style engine for KDE 3 is very hard due to some technological limitations in Qt 3, and I used to blame Baghira's myriad of rendering errors on that fact rather than incompetence, but recently there have been some style engines for KDE 3 that have proven fairly impressively that it's possible to achieve that degree of coherence and graphical sophistication even in KDE 3 |
| 19:20.27 | swanfl | is anyone familiar with the program print shop in Windows? If so, is there an equivalent in Linux? |
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| 19:21.01 | vash | Sho_: hehe, I'd be happy if I can get kde running at this point >>.. |
| 19:21.30 | vash | Sho_: I'm having to reinstall it; I'll have to see what happens.. |
| 19:21.30 | sdousley | or does it... |
| 19:22.12 | nosredna_ekim | vash: install baghira? |
| 19:22.21 | cristi | hallo |
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| 19:22.43 | cristi | i put conky on my sabayon.. and i dont like it.. how do i stop it? |
| 19:22.45 | Sho_ | nosredna_ekim: No, he means KDE itself |
| 19:22.54 | nosredna_ekim | oh.. ok. |
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| 19:23.00 | Sho_ | cristi: Ask in #sabayon; conky is not a KDE application |
| 19:23.21 | cristi | nobody ansuers on #sabayon |
| 19:23.22 | vash | nosredna_ekim: rofl |
| 19:23.22 | cristi | :( |
| 19:23.27 | Liquid_Fire | kill it? |
| 19:23.30 | nosredna_ekim | Sho_: what other theme is as sophisticated like baghira? |
| 19:23.36 | vash | cristi: Try #gentoo :< |
| 19:23.47 | nosredna_ekim | vash: whats so funny? |
| 19:23.49 | Sho_ | nosredna_ekim: Baghira is not sophisticated, Baghira is junk |
| 19:24.02 | Sho_ | nosredna_ekim: And I was referring to Domino |
| 19:24.07 | vash | cristi: Technically sabayon is a kind of an overlay over gentoo. |
| 19:24.15 | cristi | hou do i kill it? |
| 19:24.18 | cristi | :) |
| 19:24.20 | Sho_ | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=42804 |
| 19:24.23 | cristi | i'm new in linux |
| 19:24.24 | Liquid_Fire | killall conky |
| 19:24.26 | vash | nosredna_ekim: Oh, just the irony of how much I wish it was for installing an extension to kde. |
| 19:24.37 | vash | nosredna_ekim: Not actually kde itself ;__;.. |
| 19:24.41 | cristi | it work ... tankc |
| 19:24.44 | cristi | tankcs |
| 19:24.49 | cristi | tanks* |
| 19:24.51 | cristi | :) |
| 19:24.52 | nosredna_ekim | Sho_:hmmm intersting...lets see if kubutnu has a package |
| 19:25.12 | vash | cristi: How do you kill what? do you want to kill kde? |
| 19:25.16 | nosredna_ekim | vash: oh, reinstalling isn't a big deal... |
| 19:25.23 | sdousley | kbiff does the trick nicely thanks guys :) |
| 19:25.28 | vash | nosredna_ekim: It is when you're on gentoo ;_____;... |
| 19:25.35 | cristi | now.. i wanted to kill conk |
| 19:25.38 | nosredna_ekim | vash: oh... gentoo.... indeed. |
| 19:25.38 | cristi | conky * |
| 19:25.40 | vash | nosredna_ekim: takes ages to recompile all that. |
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| 19:25.53 | vash | cristi: have you tried killall conky |
| 19:26.00 | cristi | yes.. it work |
| 19:26.01 | cristi | :) |
| 19:26.06 | vash | cristi: Yay! |
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| 19:26.37 | cristi | do you know some anoter aplication like conky? |
| 19:26.39 | vash | cristi: I didn't realize someone had already answered your question XD >>. |
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| 19:26.45 | vash | What is conky? |
| 19:26.53 | Sho_ | A system monitor. |
| 19:26.54 | Liquid_Fire | isn't it sth like superkaramba? |
| 19:26.59 | cristi | a sistem monitor |
| 19:27.18 | cristi | do you have a nice sistem monitor? for kde |
| 19:27.35 | nosredna_ekim | crap, domino isn't a kubutnu package!!! |
| 19:27.35 | Liquid_Fire | well, superkaramba with a nice monitor applet for it :) |
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| 19:27.44 | nosredna_ekim | cristi: alt+esc |
| 19:27.50 | nosredna_ekim | cristi: or ksysgaurd |
| 19:27.50 | Liquid_Fire | or whatever the superkaramba thingies were called.. |
| 19:28.00 | vash | themes? |
| 19:28.01 | Liquid_Fire | or even a kicker applet would do |
| 19:28.04 | Sho_ | Liquid_Fire: "Themes", canonically |
| 19:28.05 | Liquid_Fire | yeah, themes |
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| 19:29.00 | vash | cristi: Yes, if you're running kde, superkaramba has some system monitors. :D |
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| 19:29.15 | cristi | :)) |
| 19:29.19 | cristi | yeah right |
| 19:29.21 | nosredna_ekim | I think they arecalled applets |
| 19:29.22 | cristi | nice name |
| 19:29.57 | fedora_ | ? |
| 19:29.58 | vash | nosredna_ekim: rofl they're called themes ;p |
| 19:30.07 | vash | ^^ |
| 19:30.10 | vash | fedora_: ? |
| 19:30.16 | fedora_ | yes? |
| 19:30.32 | vash | nothing, I was just enjoying your arbitrary questionmark :3. |
| 19:30.35 | nosredna_ekim | vash: you sure? |
| 19:30.40 | vash | nosredna_ekim: Yup |
| 19:30.45 | nosredna_ekim | hmm |
| 19:30.54 | Sho_ | see [21:28] <Sho_> Liquid_Fire: "Themes", canonically |
| 19:31.17 | vash | nosredna_ekim: :P |
| 19:31.31 | cristi | what is that? |
| 19:31.32 | Zburatoru3 | hey guys, do you use diff or svn diff for patches? |
| 19:32.24 | vash | cristi: Different themes for superkaramba, which allow you to do different things. They're essentially like widgets. |
| 19:32.46 | cristi | superkaramba is a sistem monitor? |
| 19:32.48 | vash | cristi: Superkaramba should have come pre-installed if you're using sabayon. |
| 19:33.05 | vash | cristi: It has one in there, but it can do many many different things. |
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| 19:38.25 | cristi | i can get nosredna_ekim |
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| 19:38.37 | nosredna_ekim | no.....! you can't have me!! |
| 19:38.45 | cristi | :D |
| 19:38.47 | cristi | i know |
| 19:39.00 | vash | cristi: but I can! |
| 19:39.07 | cristi | why? |
| 19:39.12 | cristi | :)) |
| 19:39.15 | cristi | thats god |
| 19:39.22 | vash | cristi: Not sure, probably this bag of infinite holding here |
| 19:39.23 | cristi | some themes you have? |
| 19:40.04 | vash | alright that's kinda boring |
| 19:40.12 | dcestari | * |
| 19:40.13 | dcestari | *an |
| 19:40.18 | Sho_ | cristi: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=38 |
| 19:40.29 | nosredna_ekim | good.. cause I bite :) |
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| 19:41.25 | vash | :O |
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| 19:42.56 | nosredna_ekim | no... :>< |
| 19:43.52 | vash | oweh |
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| 19:47.43 | nosredna_ekim | exactly |
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| 19:56.27 | braindump03 | hey there :) |
| 19:57.00 | nosredna_ekim | hi |
| 19:58.02 | braindump03 | nice nick... ;> |
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| 19:58.41 | nosredna_ekim | me? thank you very much. |
| 19:59.10 | braindump03 | its your name, isnt it?! |
| 19:59.17 | braindump03 | i mean, your real name. |
| 19:59.37 | nosredna_ekim | yep |
| 19:59.44 | braindump03 | skandinavian? |
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| 19:59.49 | nosredna_ekim | backwards yes. |
| 19:59.58 | braindump03 | i see. |
| 20:00.05 | nosredna_ekim | ancestry was... now i'm just american :) |
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| 20:00.18 | nosredna_ekim | about 1/2 swedish/norwegian |
| 20:00.24 | braindump03 | you've better had been scandinavian ;> |
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| 20:00.42 | braindump03 | *had stayed. |
| 20:00.47 | braindump03 | whatever ;> |
| 20:01.13 | nosredna_ekim | maybe... |
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| 20:31.28 | rdivacky | hi.... any konsole developer here? |
| 20:34.05 | rdivacky | I am working on fixing http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81845 |
| 20:34.14 | rdivacky | will have a patch tommorrow.. anyone intersted? |
| 20:35.14 | kirun | I'm sure they are interested, even if they aren't paying attention right now :P |
| 20:35.41 | rdivacky | I sent a trivial patch 9 months ago... no response |
| 20:35.47 | rdivacky | I am kind of... tired :) |
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| 20:36.41 | SSJ | rdivacky: Robert Knight is the lead Konsole developer. I think I've seen him on IRC before, but can't remember his handle. |
| 20:37.35 | rdivacky | thnx for info |
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| 20:37.55 | SSJ | rdivacky: np - I'm just trying to remember what his IRC nick is ... |
| 20:38.15 | rdivacky | I have some response from him on my patch :) |
| 20:38.18 | rdivacky | but no action taken |
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| 20:38.26 | rdivacky | looks like all oss projects are the same after all :-D |
| 20:38.30 | SSJ | rdivacky: Anyway, you're more likely to find him in #kde4-devel than here. |
| 20:38.37 | integer` | how to start kicker on all Desktop tables ? |
| 20:38.43 | rdivacky | SSJ: ok.. thnx |
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| 20:46.40 | integer` | how to start kicker on all Desktop tables ? |
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| 20:48.19 | integer` | it runs only on current table :( |
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| 20:54.28 | litb | i wonder which fonts he used: http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1198/asdfpoaismdfapsoimdf2ql0.png |
| 20:55.11 | benJIman | litb: Probably one of the microsoft fonts |
| 20:55.26 | benJIman | Tahoma perhaps |
| 20:55.37 | MinceR | looks like Bitstream Vera Sans / DejaVu Sans to me |
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| 20:55.56 | benJIman | It's horribly fuzzily antialiased though. |
| 20:56.15 | MinceR | it's nicely antialiased |
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| 20:56.24 | MinceR | and it's not Verdana, judging by the I-s |
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| 20:59.48 | WishMasterNND | New Gearheads episode is out: http://wadejolson.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/the_gearheads_6.png |
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| 21:02.01 | MinceR | :) |
| 21:02.17 | Zburatoru3 | has Kyle ever made a sexist joke in Gearheads? |
| 21:02.46 | pinotree | Zburatoru3: ?? |
| 21:03.56 | Zburatoru3 | pintotree, "??" ? |
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| 21:04.14 | MinceR | "\"??\" ?" ? |
| 21:04.32 | pinotree | my nick has only a 't' in it, and i don't understadn why do you said so |
| 21:04.41 | Zburatoru3 | sorry about the nick |
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| 21:05.43 | Zburatoru3 | pinotree, i asked a question. you don't understand why I did that? |
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| 21:05.59 | icwiener_ | The answer is no, I guess. |
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| 21:06.00 | pinotree | i don't understand the sense of such question |
| 21:06.03 | ankermann | hi , can i use the telnet command to open a connection to a webserver and also open a webpage in the same command line?? |
| 21:06.21 | pinotree | ankermann: and what does it have to do with kde? |
| 21:06.54 | ankermann | nothing, but please tell me if someone knows , i asked in other channels but was of no use :( |
| 21:07.22 | pinotree | ankermann: ##linux please, not here - thanks |
| 21:07.37 | ankermann | ok thank you |
| 21:07.44 | Zburatoru3 | pinotree, I was just curios about that. I know it's *wrong* and all that, but if the right people hear the right joke at the right time... it can be pretty funny |
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| 21:09.47 | kirun | True... like one time, some guy I knew was delivering the "Why is a woman like a tropical storm..." joke to us... and a passing woman delivered the punchline. |
| 21:11.31 | kirun | But... for promotional content, it would be inappropriate... it's not a good idea to annoy 50% of potential users |
| 21:11.59 | Zburatoru3 | I agree. I do think upsetting the KDE women would be just... dumb. |
| 21:12.28 | kirun | In any case, "offensive" jokes are always funnier when delivered by a member of the "offended" group |
| 21:12.41 | Zburatoru3 | Most certainly. |
| 21:13.21 | kirun | And webcomics are too anonymous for that sort of thing |
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| 21:51.06 | FuriousGeorge | hey all. i love konqi, but on this fresh amd64 install i have problems with it not rendering certain images |
| 21:51.19 | FuriousGeorge | not sure, but i think its only gifs |
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| 21:52.57 | lilltiger | If it dosent render gif's then thats a feature.. :D |
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| 21:56.03 | FuriousGeorge | lilltiger: its definitely not |
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| 21:57.25 | paul123432 | i need help |
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| 21:58.13 | lilltiger | FuriousGeorge: are you sure it's gif (who on earth uses gif now adays..) and thats it's all gifs, as some gif versions includes flaws that can be used to attack your computer.. |
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| 21:58.19 | Arfdee | hi |
| 21:58.47 | pinotree | paul123432: just ask |
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| 22:03.10 | FuriousGeorge | lilltiger: i gues |
| 22:03.17 | FuriousGeorge | im not sure if its gifs |
| 22:03.27 | lilltiger | url? |
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| 22:04.17 | cristi | furiousgeorge where are you from? |
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| 22:11.17 | Arfdee | i am copying files through konqerueror with bluetooth |
| 22:11.23 | Arfdee | but my device is only receiving a partial copy of them |
| 22:11.37 | Arfdee | like, not the whole file |
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| 22:15.03 | metellius | is there a way to change the default drag action in kde? Instead of always defaulting to the (imho) too verbose popup menu |
| 22:15.30 | feindbild | Arfdee: latest version of bluez-*, openobex and kdebluetooth installed? |
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| 22:16.53 | Arfdee | let me paste to pastebin |
| 22:17.07 | feindbild | metellius: drag with ctrl/shift ... |
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| 22:17.59 | Arfdee | http://www.pastebin.ca/661635 |
| 22:18.01 | Arfdee | feindbild, |
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| 22:20.52 | Arfdee | feindbild, ? |
| 22:21.51 | FuriousGeorge | lilltiger: sorry, my gf was distracting me. for instance when i go to www.newegg.com, all the blue around the search field, and the "go" button that submits the form are not rendering |
| 22:22.06 | FuriousGeorge | strangely the blue in the top right comes in fine |
| 22:22.18 | FuriousGeorge | (where the login link is) |
| 22:22.32 | feindbild | Arfdee: hmmm ... I have the same version ... just on Slackware ... works fine for me. Maybe a problem with the phone/bluetooth interface? is the connection stable? you can check with right click on the KBluetoothD systra icon -> coßnnection details while copying |
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| 22:23.52 | feindbild | Arfdee: or you can try if it works with the obexftp cli tool |
| 22:24.03 | Arfdee | feindbild, how would obexftp work? |
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| 22:24.46 | feindbild | Arfdee: obexftp --help |
| 22:24.56 | feindbild | Arfdee: obexftp -b -l to get a listing |
| 22:26.02 | Arfdee | 00:1a:77:ed:d1:97 |
| 22:26.12 | Arfdee | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:26.12 | Arfdee | Scanning ... |
| 22:26.12 | Arfdee | Failed to connect to SDP server: Host is down |
| 22:26.34 | Arfdee | that's the mac id i already had written down |
| 22:27.00 | feindbild | Arfdee: have you paired your phone? |
| 22:27.10 | Arfdee | yeah, i can open konqueror and browse it |
| 22:27.38 | feindbild | Arfdee: hmm ... strange ... |
| 22:30.19 | feindbild | Arfdee: you really don't get asked for a pass on the phone when executing obexftp ? |
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| 22:30.43 | Arfdee | feindbild, |
| 22:30.44 | Arfdee | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.45 | Arfdee | Browsing 00:1A:77:ED:D1:97 ... |
| 22:30.45 | Arfdee | Channel: 1 |
| 22:30.45 | Arfdee | Nothing to do. Use --help for help. |
| 22:30.59 | Arfdee | feindbild, i can also use phone as a modem over bt |
| 22:31.34 | feindbild | Arfdee: sorry ... no further idea =/ |
| 22:31.55 | Arfdee | here |
| 22:32.17 | Arfdee | http://pastebin.ca/661656 |
| 22:33.16 | FuriousGeorge | i cant see anything on the bug reports about konqui not rendering gifs... |
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| 22:34.07 | metellius | feindbild: holding ctrl/shift was what I was hoping there was a way to avoid |
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| 22:34.36 | Arfdee | feindbild, do you see? |
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| 22:35.53 | feindbild | Arfdee: http://osdir.com/ml/network.protocols.obex.openobex.user/2006-02/msg00026.html |
| 22:36.01 | feindbild | Arfdee: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-qa-packages%40lists.debian.org/msg08864.html |
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| 22:36.21 | feindbild | Arfdee: eventually you'll find something useful in those threads ... try googling for the error |
| 22:36.51 | Arfdee | feindbild, it's doing a partial copy |
| 22:37.29 | feindbild | Arfdee: have you tried using rfcomm? |
| 22:37.40 | Arfdee | feindbild, how do you mean? |
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| 22:37.51 | Arfdee | rfcomm connect 0 00:1A:77:ED:D1:97 4 |
| 22:37.52 | Arfdee | that works |
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| 22:38.06 | feindbild | Arfdee: rfcomm bind 0 00:1A:77:ED:D1:97 1&&chmod 777 /dev/rfcomm0 |
| 22:38.08 | feindbild | as root |
| 22:38.32 | Arfdee | oh, that's on channel 1 |
| 22:38.33 | feindbild | and then use /dev/rfcomm0 instead of bluetooth |
| 22:38.34 | Arfdee | channel 4 works fine |
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| 22:39.40 | Arfdee | feindbild, that connection is refused |
| 22:39.40 | Arfdee | but channel 4 works OK |
| 22:39.56 | Arfdee | rfcomm connect 0 00:1A:77:ED:D1:97 1 |
| 22:39.56 | Arfdee | says connection refused |
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| 22:41.55 | Arfdee | oh wait, i turned it off then on and it connected |
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| 22:43.01 | Arfdee | ok feindbild |
| 22:43.02 | Arfdee | it's kde |
| 22:43.10 | Arfdee | i just copied the whole file and it worked fine |
| 22:43.13 | Arfdee | with obexftp |
| 22:43.37 | feindbild | Arfdee: what did you change? |
| 22:44.08 | Arfdee | i turned off my phone and back on |
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| 22:44.55 | Arfdee | http://pastebin.ca/661663 |
| 22:44.58 | Arfdee | worked fine, copied whole picture |
| 22:45.00 | feindbild | Arfdee: maybe it now works with KDE? |
| 22:45.13 | Arfdee | feindbild, i've power cycled the phone a few times since this began happening |
| 22:45.30 | Arfdee | you see the url? |
| 22:45.56 | Arfdee | obex2://00:1a:77:ed:d1:97@bluetooth:1/ |
| 22:45.58 | Arfdee | in konqueror |
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| 22:46.06 | Arfdee | told it to copy |
| 22:46.12 | Arfdee | again, did a partial copy |
| 22:46.17 | Arfdee | like 20% then stops |
| 22:46.59 | feindbild | Arfdee: well ... kdebluetooth works for me ^^ no idea |
| 22:47.10 | Arfdee | feindbild, do you use gnome at all? |
| 22:47.16 | feindbild | Arfdee: no |
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| 22:52.22 | Arfdee | feindbild, if uhhh |
| 22:52.38 | Arfdee | if obexftp works, it's definitely a kde thing for me? |
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| 22:54.24 | feindbild | Arfdee: I don't know. could be a combination of any: phone/kdebluetooth/driver ... |
| 22:54.47 | Arfdee | feindbild, i mean, it works fine with obexftp |
| 22:54.54 | Prestidigita | can anyone help me out with a linux problem ? |
| 22:54.59 | Arfdee | and my home fedora machine is having the same problem now |
| 22:56.23 | feindbild | Arfdee: eventually |
| 22:56.38 | Arfdee | eventually what? |
| 22:57.24 | feindbild | Arfdee: eventually it's a KDE problem ... |
| 22:57.58 | FuriousGeorge | upon further inspection it seems that no kde app can open gifs |
| 22:58.18 | FuriousGeorge | i did notice that libgif wasnt installed when i was building kde |
| 22:58.34 | feindbild | FuriousGeorge: #yourdistri |
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| 23:14.23 | Halca | Is there a way to get your KDE in latin? :) |
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| 23:15.24 | grepper | Halca: discontinued |
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| 23:15.37 | feindbild | Halca: lol |
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| 23:17.27 | GionnyBoss | Halca: latin? you mean ancient latin? |
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| 23:22.31 | runlevelten | Halca: Yes, if you do the work to translate it, etc. |
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| 23:31.09 | Halca | Yeah, "latin" |
| 23:31.10 | Halca | :-) |
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| 23:32.47 | MinceR | perhaps there should be a Pig Latin translation too :> |
| 23:33.56 | Halca | : |
| 23:33.57 | Halca | :/ |
| 23:34.02 | Mirrakor | he's not serious, isn't he? oO I mean, how do you want to create all the new words you got? |
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| 23:57.35 | swanfl | are there any desktop publishing programs available in KDE? |
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| 23:58.54 | cristi | some nice theme fr kde? |
| 23:59.05 | WishMasterNND | swanfl: Scribus |
| 23:59.13 | swanfl | a kde ap? |
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| 23:59.34 | WishMasterNND | swanfl: It's a Qt app which is nearly the same as a KDE app ;) |
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| 23:59.47 | swanfl | true enough :) |
| 23:59.54 | swanfl | just hope it's in Gentoo :) |
