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| 00:14.38 | efphe | hi alls. do you know if it's possible to use cheapskatefonts on konsole? |
| 00:15.17 | efphe | any hint for a pretty font for konsole otherwise? |
| 00:16.41 | Sho_ | efphe: I'm a big fan of the Terminus font |
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| 00:17.07 | efphe | Sho_, i try |
| 00:20.55 | efphe | Sho_, i'm looking for something cooler |
| 00:21.04 | efphe | some funky fonts |
| 00:21.14 | Sho_ | efphe: Konsole will only work with fixed-width fonts |
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| 00:21.37 | efphe | yes i read it on google |
| 00:21.43 | tuxedup | this is proberly a really stupid question, but is kdebase in svn broken at the moment. I am trying to built kde 4 svn using instructions found here http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/Unstable_Version. Everything upto kdebase has built fine, cmake, qt-copy, kdesupposrt, kdelibs, kdepimlibs all fine. But kdebase dies at 20% |
| 00:22.12 | efphe | Sho_, do you know some fixed fonts, but more funky? |
| 00:22.31 | Sho_ | tuxedup: it's possible. Monday is the day kdelibs may break source and binary compatibility, and the modules can trail behind in adjusting to new APIs. |
| 00:22.46 | Sho_ | tuxedup: i.e. try again tomorrow |
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| 00:23.05 | Sho_ | efphe: sorry, not from the top of my head |
| 00:24.04 | tuxedup | Sho: okie dokie, I will try tommorow or a few days time. Will I need to rebuild kdelibs, kdesupport and kdepimlibs again, or should I keep them and just checkout kdebase again? |
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| 00:24.31 | efphe | Sho_, another question: do you know some alternative terminal with tabs support and without the fixed fonts limit? |
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| 00:24.59 | Sho_ | efphe: no, sorry |
| 00:25.08 | efphe | ok thanks |
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| 00:33.59 | padde | [08:21:37] <efphe> yes i read it on google <- whoa, that's a new one. "i read it on google". now it's no longer the internet, it's only google and us ;) |
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| 00:43.38 | stoned | hi |
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| 00:54.39 | PeterFA | Is there a way to make a window of command line results pop up when I type in a command from the "Run Command Dialogue"? |
| 00:55.08 | PeterFA | It would be utmost convenient since I could do something like, "wall sudo apcaccess" and it pops up with all the output. |
| 00:56.14 | Jucato | PeterFA: click on the Options button, there's a checkbox to Run in a terminal |
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| 00:56.40 | PeterFA | Jucato, I was hoping for a pop up dialogue window. The goal is to remain as lazy as possible, which is something that Linux encourages. |
| 00:57.14 | PeterFA | If I wanted to do work, I'd go and buy a version of Windows, do updates, work hard to earn money to buy software... disinfect it every day, updates, antispyware... |
| 00:57.25 | PeterFA | Reboot... |
| 00:57.50 | Jucato | anyway, I know of no other way if that doesn't do it for you |
| 00:57.51 | PeterFA | Now I just leave programs running all the time because I don't bother to wait for them to start. |
| 00:58.09 | PeterFA | I might find something... maybe program a simple way to do it. It can't be hard at all. |
| 00:58.28 | PeterFA | It's just a basic access to the library. |
| 00:58.50 | Jucato | although I'm not sure why "run in terminal window" wouldn't do the same thing... |
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| 01:00.42 | workaphobia | I don't suppose there's a way to browse a kioslave-generated filesystem from the commandline? I'd like to rip using audiocd:/ without running a GUI. I could use cdparanoia but I prefer to have the track name autogenerated the way audiocd:/ does. |
| 01:01.43 | Jucato | no. shells (BASH, etc.) are not aware of kio |
| 01:01.59 | roho | is there a way to toggle the preview window in kmail? |
| 01:02.47 | roho | i already messed with the configuration, but to no avail |
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| 01:03.17 | roho | oh. |
| 01:03.19 | roho | heh, nevermind. |
| 01:03.23 | roho | you just drag the pane away |
| 01:03.27 | roho | <-- luser |
| 01:04.16 | neoncode | Hey, just a bit of a stupid question here... But is it possible to build the current development version of KDE 4? Would it be stable enough to run? |
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| 01:04.36 | Jucato | neoncode: http://techbase.kde.org |
| 01:04.52 | Jucato | it carries with it the same disclaimer as any alpha software |
| 01:05.20 | neoncode | Jucato: I know, I just want to see what KDE 4 is like. I expect crashes. Thank you very much. |
| 01:05.22 | PCBSHELP | hi all. is there a way to ghost copy my hard drive? its fresh install with java...... just dont wanna keep redoing it..... |
| 01:05.27 | Jucato | it builds, it sometimes breaks, it runs, it sometimes doesnt, it sometimes crashes, |
| 01:05.42 | neoncode | Jucato: I'll give it a try |
| 01:05.53 | Jucato | neoncode: might want to try a live cd instead |
| 01:06.18 | Jucato | neoncode: http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/ |
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| 01:06.40 | neoncode | I dunno, is it possible to run KDE4 alongside KDE3, so if 4 doesn't work I can still use 3? |
| 01:07.18 | Jucato | see the techbase instructions. but I strongly suggest using the live cd instead, unless you have plans of doing some development |
| 01:08.16 | neoncode | Jucato: Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. |
| 01:09.15 | PCBSHELP | if i copy all the folders and burn them onto a cd, and then reinstall bsd, and put the folders back to how they were, will it work like a ghost? |
| 01:09.17 | workaphobia | a kde 4 livecd? Awesome |
| 01:10.03 | neoncode | But how old is all the stuff in that Live CD? |
| 01:10.04 | workaphobia | pcbshelp: Well, assuming it's the same hard drive configuration I don't see why not. You're talking about every folder on the system? |
| 01:10.22 | PCBSHELP | yes..... every folder, except /home ? |
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| 01:10.41 | Jucato | neoncode: [ ] KDE-Four-Live.i686-0.1.1.iso 16-Jun-2007 17:25 665M Snapshot Week 24, see note below |
| 01:10.44 | PCBSHELP | same configuration yes. |
| 01:10.50 | Jucato | just look at the page... |
| 01:11.00 | Jucato | then look at the calender :) |
| 01:11.44 | workaphobia | pcbhelp: if you're copying all that anyway, I don't see why you'd even need to reinstall. A repartitioning would seem to do. |
| 01:12.38 | PCBSHELP | well the reason is, i want a back up at every step when i install an application..... i dont want to have to redo it all again. |
| 01:12.48 | PCBSHELP | sometimes i mess up the system instaling applications. |
| 01:12.59 | Jucato | PCBSHELP: you might get better help asking in a bsd (pc-bsd?) channel... |
| 01:13.25 | PCBSHELP | well they are kinda dead, and im on dbsd and they all dead there too. |
| 01:14.11 | PCBSHELP | btw, if i delete /home folder, it has soem hidden files, will it crash my system? |
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| 01:14.24 | neoncode | Jucato: Sometimes, my own stupidity amazes even me. lol |
| 01:14.35 | workaphobia | if you delete /home, assuming BSD is anything at all like linux which I'm fairly certain it is, it shouldn't harm your system stability in the least. |
| 01:14.37 | workaphobia | just your user. |
| 01:15.02 | workaphobia | nothing in /home should be owned by root anyway. Oh - actually, unless there are some service users like "ftp" that for some reason have a dir in /home |
| 01:15.05 | workaphobia | some software I installed does that. |
| 01:15.18 | workaphobia | but I think even that is just for storage. |
| 01:15.32 | PCBSHELP | ok im gonna try delete and see what happens. |
| 01:15.33 | workaphobia | neoncode: "Sometimes I amuse even myself." |
| 01:15.51 | workaphobia | disclaimer: I've never used bsd |
| 01:16.25 | PCBSHELP | access denied lol..... i guess /home holds some information about user logins etc. |
| 01:18.21 | neoncode | workaphobia: lol |
| 01:19.08 | workaphobia | pcbshelp: well, yeah, you can only remove /home itself as root, but the contents of home should be user owned. |
| 01:20.50 | Jucato | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.12 | PCBSHELP | hmm ok lets see if i can delete the user im on with under home. |
| 01:21.41 | PCBSHELP | nope.. |
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| 01:23.51 | Jucato | lol!!! Google is whacked! "Derogatory term for Protestant." |
| 01:23.55 | Jucato | is the first result :/ |
| 01:24.05 | Jucato | tsk tsk |
| 01:24.09 | smileaf | lmao |
| 01:24.20 | straw | heh |
| 01:24.24 | wolsni | heh, what a conversation to walk into |
| 01:24.30 | Jucato | blame smileaf :) |
| 01:24.40 | Jucato | and my vocabulary list :) |
| 01:24.42 | smileaf | wolsni: don't worry I walked into that one too =) |
| 01:25.01 | wolsni | Jucato: if you know what a cattle prod is it's hard to forget what prod means |
| 01:25.20 | RawSewage | Google needs to improve define: |
| 01:25.31 | Jucato | wolsni: we don't have much cattle here.... |
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| 01:25.55 | smileaf | its like poking you ... only with a larger stick =) |
| 01:26.14 | Jucato | smileaf: yeah... I kinda saw the right definition at the bottom of Google's results :) |
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| 01:27.21 | smileaf | Jucato: at any rate, channel is re-established ;) |
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| 01:36.57 | neoncode | Hey... How big are kdelibs and kdebase anyway? The source I mean... |
| 01:37.50 | wolsni | neoncode: go to the ftp site and find out |
| 01:38.02 | neoncode | What's the FTP address? |
| 01:38.23 | wolsni | um, go to kde.org and click on the download link? |
| 01:38.27 | Jucato | neoncode: here's a hint. total size of a base KDE 4 install following the guide is more or less 5GB |
| 01:38.41 | Jucato | du reports kdelibs as 915mb |
| 01:38.47 | wolsni | ftp://download.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/ |
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| 01:39.53 | neoncode | 5GB huh... This'll take a while... |
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| 01:40.16 | Jucato | neoncode: that's source code + build directory + installed stuff |
| 01:40.54 | neoncode | Ahhh. Ok. I have no problem with disk space, I have about 600GB free. It's just my ISP I'm worried about. |
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| 01:41.35 | Jucato | there's not much to worry. once you've checked out the code from svn, you need not be connected to build anyway |
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| 01:42.32 | Shimei | Hello. Does anyone know if font-rendering options are alterable for Qt apps in general? I know KDE has a control panel for this, but I wanted to change rendering options for Opera. |
| 01:43.24 | Jucato | Shimei: try to see if something like "qtconfig" is installed in your system. if not, ask in your distro channel how to install it or where to get it from |
| 01:43.31 | Jucato | (might also try asking in #qt) |
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| 01:44.10 | Shimei | Ah, I didn't realize there was a #qt. Didn't show up with /list for some reason. Thanks. |
| 01:44.15 | neoncode | Jucato: It's not time, I've got an always-on connection. I just don't think my ISP will be happy with me downloading gargantuan ammounts of data. Well, I don't know. I think that's only in peaktimes and seeing as it's almost 3AM where I am I guess I shouldn't worry. |
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| 01:44.59 | Jucato | neoncode: source code size is the least of your worries... kdelibs happens to be the biggest, and it's less than 1GB here... |
| 01:45.08 | Jucato | actual size might actually even be less |
| 01:45.30 | neoncode | So what do I worry about? |
| 01:45.39 | wolsni | anyway, the source + objects + final compiled project will be a lot larger than the source alone |
| 01:46.03 | Jucato | um... what you have to worry about is installing all the dependencies necessary to actually compile KDE |
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| 01:46.44 | Jucato | moin troy diva :) |
| 01:46.55 | neoncode | Well... I run Kubuntu, and the guide pretty much spells out what I need... |
| 01:47.10 | troy | Jucato: hola gearhead :P |
| 01:47.32 | Jucato | troy: someday I'll add blenderhead to that as well.... hopefully :) |
| 01:49.03 | neoncode | Ohhh... KDElibs includes Oxygen... Nice |
| 01:49.22 | Jucato | er.. of course it does :/ |
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| 01:49.32 | neoncode | I mean, I knew I'd get it at some point, but I didn't know where it was in the trunk. |
| 01:49.38 | Jucato | kdelibs is where KDE icons are located |
| 01:49.46 | neoncode | It could be a seperate module for All I know. |
| 01:49.57 | Jucato | now you know :) |
| 01:50.31 | neoncode | that I do |
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| 01:57.07 | stoned | cookies |
| 01:59.32 | neoncode | stoned: What about cake? |
| 01:59.41 | stoned | huh? |
| 01:59.48 | stoned | no one stores cake on my computers |
| 02:00.05 | neoncode | Oh, I thought you were talking about food. |
| 02:00.17 | stoned | yes |
| 02:00.23 | stoned | choc. chip cookies |
| 02:00.35 | stoned | very nice with choc. milk |
| 02:00.49 | neoncode | Carn't say I've tried chocolate milk... |
| 02:00.55 | stoned | what? |
| 02:01.00 | stoned | whats wrong with you? |
| 02:01.14 | neoncode | I've just... never tried it |
| 02:01.35 | stoned | did you never think of mixing the two? |
| 02:01.51 | stoned | or did you never ever try it even thought it was available to you? |
| 02:02.00 | neoncode | Not myself. I've seen it in the shop, but I've never gotten any. |
| 02:02.02 | stoned | or have you never ceome across choc milk |
| 02:02.33 | stoned | I don't mean to sound like a penis, but you can surely afford it |
| 02:02.34 | stoned | right? |
| 02:03.00 | neoncode | Of corse |
| 02:03.19 | stoned | so like why haven't you ever tried choc milk? |
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| 02:03.33 | neoncode | I don't know, I've just never gotten round to it |
| 02:03.41 | stoned | how old are you? |
| 02:03.47 | stoned | where do you live? |
| 02:04.01 | neoncode | ...why? |
| 02:04.09 | stoned | I can't believe you use kde and you have never tried choc milk |
| 02:04.19 | stoned | cuz im gonna come over and give you some choc. friggin mllk man |
| 02:04.23 | stoned | its delicious |
| 02:04.25 | neoncode | Why does my use of KDE factor into this? |
| 02:04.36 | bsdfox__ | why wouldn't it? |
| 02:04.57 | neoncode | Well, I mean. If I used windows would you still expect me to have tried choc. milk? |
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| 02:05.06 | stoned | yes |
| 02:05.13 | canllaith | What if he's lactose intolerant? |
| 02:05.18 | stoned | were you not a child once upon a time? |
| 02:05.28 | neoncode | I'm not, and tectancly, I'm still a child. |
| 02:05.29 | canllaith | Or an alien ? |
| 02:05.39 | neoncode | canllaith: Yes, i'm an alien. |
| 02:05.41 | bsdfox__ | are you a mormon |
| 02:05.46 | neoncode | bsdfox__: Nope |
| 02:05.47 | canllaith | Or maybe he's from a country where they have a very delicious something different |
| 02:05.58 | Jucato | ooooh! hi canllaith! |
| 02:05.59 | neoncode | canllaith: I've seen the stuff in shops |
| 02:06.07 | stoned | If aliens came down I bet they would like choc mllk |
| 02:06.13 | Jucato | canllaith: I just remembered you and qupada while watching a movie yesterday :) |
| 02:06.18 | canllaith | Ok :) |
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| 02:06.29 | neoncode | stoned: What if they were lactose intolerant aliens? |
| 02:06.31 | stoned | hey where is qupada |
| 02:06.40 | stoned | neoncode: dude don't be ridiculous |
| 02:06.46 | Jucato | canllaith: an end of the world movie, first country to be obliterated was NZ.... |
| 02:06.54 | stoned | haha |
| 02:06.56 | stoned | burn! |
| 02:06.56 | canllaith | Ah ok |
| 02:07.03 | stoned | j/k |
| 02:07.14 | neoncode | stoned: How do we know that aliens aren't Lactose Intolerent. |
| 02:07.17 | Jucato | yeah. they were literally burned... |
| 02:07.27 | stoned | neoncode: how do we know that they are? |
| 02:07.54 | neoncode | We don't. We can only assume that a percentage of the alien population will be lactose intolerant. |
| 02:08.03 | stoned | maybe not |
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| 02:09.00 | stoned | maybe the aliens we meet come from a planet where they binding element in hydrocarbon lifeforms was not carbon but silicone or some or other element. Alients would be like made of crystals and glass and sand and such |
| 02:09.05 | canllaith | The thing is though |
| 02:09.06 | stoned | maybe they dont drink milk |
| 02:09.13 | canllaith | If the aliens don't have cows |
| 02:09.16 | stoned | maybe milk was never a part of their evolution |
| 02:09.16 | jsin | is it possible for the kwallet password to be stored and entered automatically on boot? |
| 02:09.20 | canllaith | they probably wouldn't have developed the ability to metabolise lactase |
| 02:09.31 | canllaith | jsin: Unlikely. |
| 02:09.52 | bsdfox__ | do the aliens not have breasts either? |
| 02:10.01 | canllaith | Human milk doesn't have lactose |
| 02:10.03 | stoned | mmm breasts |
| 02:10.07 | jsin | I do not use it for anything I care about protecting... would be handy no to have to enter a pass |
| 02:10.09 | neoncode | bsdfox__: the female ones might... |
| 02:10.12 | neoncode | Mmmm... female aliens |
| 02:10.14 | stoned | i like the chicken i like the chicken |
| 02:10.19 | canllaith | heh |
| 02:10.22 | stoned | :D |
| 02:10.27 | canllaith | jsin: You could always have no password on the wallet |
| 02:10.28 | neoncode | lol |
| 02:11.07 | bsdfox__ | alien milk could have lactose |
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| 02:11.27 | stoned | alien lactose sure |
| 02:11.29 | canllaith | alien milk could have anything |
| 02:11.30 | stoned | acidy spit |
| 02:11.37 | canllaith | There might not be any alien milk at all |
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| 02:11.50 | stoned | why do mammals produce milk? |
| 02:11.51 | canllaith | They might not be like mammals. This all bears considering. |
| 02:12.03 | canllaith | (Can you tell I am really bored right now? I'm supposed to be working) |
| 02:12.09 | stoned | and is the best milk natural human milk? |
| 02:12.25 | stoned | for us of course |
| 02:12.30 | stoned | I mean babies drink that shit |
| 02:12.39 | stoned | they get all the vitamins |
| 02:12.51 | stoned | and the minerals and protiens and stuff just from the milk |
| 02:13.06 | stoned | so maybe someone should farm human milk bottle it up and sell it |
| 02:13.11 | neoncode | They do |
| 02:13.14 | stoned | really? |
| 02:13.38 | neoncode | Some women induce lactation and then sell the milk to hospitals for orphaned babies... I think |
| 02:13.58 | stoned | I like goat milk |
| 02:14.09 | neoncode | I like cow milk |
| 02:14.14 | stoned | that too |
| 02:14.23 | Jucato | apt-get moo |
| 02:14.27 | canllaith | neoncode: That doesn't seem all that likely.... |
| 02:14.31 | jsin | would a blank password skip the prompt for a password, or would i still need to click OK leaving an empty field? |
| 02:14.37 | canllaith | You can express milk to bottle feed babies with it but I'm pretty sure it needs to be used very fresh |
| 02:14.45 | canllaith | jsin: a blank password would skip the prompt entirely. |
| 02:14.50 | neoncode | Jucato: apt's super cow powers? |
| 02:14.50 | canllaith | It would just read from the wallet when it needed to. |
| 02:14.56 | Jucato | neoncode: :) |
| 02:15.06 | jsin | perfect |
| 02:15.10 | stoned | all these passwords piss me off |
| 02:15.12 | jsin | thank you |
| 02:15.17 | stoned | everything has a password now |
| 02:15.25 | stoned | it sucks |
| 02:15.33 | neoncode | stoned: It's that or have all your money stolen |
| 02:15.45 | stoned | which is also uncool |
| 02:16.01 | jsin | rebooting... |
| 02:16.12 | neoncode | So wich suck more, getting your stuff stolen, or haveing to remember about 9001 passwords. |
| 02:16.39 | stoned | 9001 hah i'll give you the money just to not make me remember 9001 passwords |
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| 02:17.02 | stoned | beryl won't work for me with kde |
| 02:17.10 | neoncode | stoned: Works for me |
| 02:17.26 | stoned | I can run it with xfce or gnome, but under kde it never loads |
| 02:17.32 | stoned | it crashed with a signal 11 |
| 02:17.37 | stoned | or something |
| 02:18.15 | neoncode | Well, I don't know. I have a GeForce 8800 GTS and it works fine for me under KDE. Useing the Nvidia binary drivers anyway. |
| 02:18.31 | stoned | me too |
| 02:18.34 | stoned | 7600GS |
| 02:18.56 | stoned | I'm so pissed off about myself |
| 02:19.03 | neoncode | I carn't say I can help. I don't know that much about beryl. And why? |
| 02:19.05 | stoned | I bought an X1900XTX |
| 02:19.12 | stoned | damn ati, damn them |
| 02:19.37 | bsdfox__ | idiot |
| 02:19.42 | stoned | I bought for 200$ and now its not even worth 150 |
| 02:19.55 | stoned | I should sell the card or my rig soon before it is too old |
| 02:20.02 | stoned | anyone wanna buy it? |
| 02:20.06 | stoned | ;D |
| 02:20.06 | neoncode | I just built my rig. |
| 02:20.32 | neoncode | And Ati's drivers are terrible. My old rig had a Radeon 9600. |
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| 02:26.25 | neoncode | Out of intrest, how do the new Radeon HD2900 XT's run under Linux? |
| 02:29.39 | straw | no, not yet |
| 02:30.24 | straw | it took ATI months to support x1xx cards :/ |
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| 02:31.33 | jsin | today is fun with kde day :) |
| 02:32.10 | jsin | what is the name of the app that sits in the system tray that has the flags and changes your keyboard layout? |
| 02:32.18 | workaphobia | Is there a simple way to retrieve and navigate kioslave-based virtual filesystems from the console? |
| 02:38.06 | wolsni | workaphobia: i think kdebluetooth includes a tool called kioclient that lets you cat, ls, mv, etc with kioslaves |
| 02:38.37 | workaphobia | thanks, googline |
| 02:38.39 | workaphobia | *googling |
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| 02:40.19 | mfmii | Can I use KWin to set window behavior for gnome apps? |
| 02:40.30 | mfmii | ie scite |
| 02:42.43 | jsin | is kwin the app to set keyboard layouts? |
| 02:43.13 | wolsni | jsin: it's the window manager for kde |
| 02:43.18 | jsin | ah |
| 02:43.20 | jsin | not what i want |
| 02:43.45 | jsin | I want the damn sys tray app to switch between internation keyboard layouts and I cannot think of the damn name of the thing |
| 02:44.04 | jsin | it has the flag, and you click it and it changes to another country layout for the keyboard |
| 02:44.09 | jsin | anyhow know what I am talking about? |
| 02:44.11 | wolsni | jsin: it's not really an app afaik, but the config for that is in the KDE control center |
| 02:44.29 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:44.37 | wolsni | you can check an option to show the layout switcher |
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| 02:47.29 | jsin | thank you canllaith and wolsni |
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| 02:53.00 | jsin | еуыештп |
| 02:53.02 | jsin | neat |
| 02:53.03 | jsin | works :) |
| 02:53.06 | jsin | thanks |
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| 04:28.33 | xjkx | Hi, when pressing control i have keys to links, is there something similar on firefox? |
| 04:29.06 | xjkx | i meant on konqueror |
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| 04:29.17 | xjkx | I have it on konqueror but i dont have in firefox |
| 04:29.18 | xjkx | :< |
| 04:29.31 | xjkx | I ask here because at least i am sure you know what i am talking about |
| 04:29.38 | xjkx | firefox ppl dont know thi |
| 04:29.41 | xjkx | this |
| 04:32.17 | wolsni | info on firefox access keys: http://juicystudio.com/article/firefox2-accesskeys.php#accesskeys |
| 04:32.47 | wolsni | from that I gather that firefox doesn't autogenerate the keys if they aren't specified |
| 04:33.34 | DaSkreech | xjkx: no if you want a quick answer |
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| 04:33.56 | xjkx | :O |
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| 04:40.20 | timrs | hey, i have my pocketpc connected and everything, and i can't figure out how to get it to sync with kitchensync |
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| 04:51.16 | soyuz | Hi, where can I find the latest screencast of KDE 4? |
| 04:52.28 | DaSkreech | http://planetkde.org |
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| 04:53.17 | soyuz | thanks |
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| 05:14.27 | timrs | wow, i got kitchensync to sync with google calendar, isn't that awsome? |
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| 05:30.33 | DaSkreech | Ha ha |
| 05:30.50 | DaSkreech | Microsoft has some the most elusive people in the world working for htem |
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| 05:46.47 | Krooks | Can kmail check my mail at ms exchange ? |
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| 05:49.30 | timrs | it has to be exchange 2000 or lesser i think |
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| 05:50.03 | xushi_ | and this is why i hate ktorrent... my laptop had a hard crash, i rebooted, and all the downloads in ktorrent now said that they are 100% complete and seeding... I did a force-check on them, but it didn't help.. I had to delete all the torrents and start from scratch |
| 05:50.08 | timrs | you might want to check the kde pim website for what kmail supports, because thats where i saw that |
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| 05:51.02 | DaSkreech | you deleted the torrents or the data? |
| 05:51.14 | xushi_ | the data |
| 05:51.25 | xushi_ | well, both actually, out of frustration |
| 05:51.42 | xushi_ | i had 3 torrents, each a few gigs large |
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| 05:52.32 | DaSkreech | You could have just deleted the torrents |
| 05:53.00 | DaSkreech | When you reget the .torrent file it will pick up from the data where it should start |
| 05:53.16 | xushi_ | ah.. didn't think of that one =/ |
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| 06:31.19 | gnychis | I have 16x DVDs that when I try to use in K3B, only burn at 4x. They have ritek/p16 media id's ... i'm not sure the best place to ask this question |
| 06:33.14 | bsdfox__ | do they burn faster in windows? |
| 06:33.31 | bsdfox__ | might need to flash your dvdrw if not |
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| 06:38.30 | DaSkreech | Oh I keep meaning to ask |
| 06:38.38 | DaSkreech | what are the underlying tools of k3b? |
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| 06:39.33 | fred87 | DaSkreech: cdrecord, mkisofs, growisofs |
| 06:39.36 | fred87 | for the basics |
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| 06:40.10 | DaSkreech | I thought that cdrecord was dead |
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| 06:42.28 | soyuz | hi, trying to watch plasma-icons.avi from Aaron's blog. All my player (MPlayer, Noatun) fails. What codec needed? |
| 06:43.39 | Daverocks | soyuz: tried using "file" on it? |
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| 06:45.22 | soyuz | yep. MPlayer crashes. Noatun sits idle. |
| 06:46.25 | soyuz | Daverocks: yep. MPlayer crashes. Noatun sits idle. |
| 06:47.10 | Daverocks | soyuz: i mean, the binary, as in "file plasma-icons.avi", it should tell you what kind of file it is |
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| 06:50.18 | soyuz | Daverocks: "file"d it. Need a bit of handholding there. Will appreciate. |
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| 06:50.37 | Daverocks | soyuz: ok, what did it say? |
| 06:50.56 | soyuz | Daverocks: plasma-icons.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 1136 x 884, 10.00 fps, video: |
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| 06:51.43 | Daverocks | soyuz: actually, my bad, file doesn't seem to be able to determine the codec |
| 06:52.05 | Daverocks | soyuz: does mplayer give any info about it before crashing? |
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| 06:52.58 | soyuz | Daverocks: Can't see if there is any. It just disappears. |
| 06:53.10 | Daverocks | soyuz: hmm. try "ffmpeg -i plasma-icons.avi" |
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| 06:54.05 | Daverocks | soyuz: it'll say that you need to supply an output file, but have a look at the lines above it, should say "video" and "audio" and the codecs |
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| 06:55.16 | soyuz | Daverocks: Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 1136x884, 10.00 fps(r) |
| 06:56.14 | Daverocks | soyuz: mplayer should handle it fine... obviously it doesn't though :P what distro? (or what non-Linux OS) |
| 06:56.54 | soyuz | Daverocks: openSUSE 10.2 :D |
| 06:57.20 | Daverocks | soyuz: mplayer works great on my openSUSE 10.2.. hum.. |
| 06:57.32 | soyuz | Daverocks: even the firefox plugin fails. |
| 06:57.33 | Daverocks | soyuz: does it crash for other files as well? |
| 06:58.14 | soyuz | Daverocks: About to check. Thanks a lot. Will get back. |
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| 07:22.37 | godgryphon | can you put a password on a public kde server? |
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| 07:58.06 | bharat862004 | whenever i reboot, kreminder daemon automatically starts... how to disable it ? i am using mandriva 2007.0 :) |
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| 07:59.08 | bharat862004 | hello.... knock knock ??? anybody their ;) |
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| 08:04.14 | bharat862004 | ilj: ??? |
| 08:04.19 | bharat862004 | ilj: can u help me ? |
| 08:05.07 | ilj | oh yeah. i can do ANYTHING. |
| 08:05.10 | ilj | i am godlike |
| 08:05.12 | ilj | and you're not |
| 08:05.39 | bharat862004 | stop tat.... look here is the problem < whenever i reboot, kreminder daemon automatically starts... how to disable it ? i am using mandriva 2007.0 > |
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| 08:06.53 | ilj | kde uses session management. there's a way to tell explicitly session manager not to start application at start up time |
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| 08:07.45 | ilj | kontrol center->kde components->session manager |
| 08:07.55 | bharat862004 | ilj: checking out thanks |
| 08:08.11 | ilj | you want "Advanced. Applications to be excluded..." |
| 08:08.18 | bharat862004 | no |
| 08:08.28 | ilj | no what? |
| 08:08.50 | bharat862004 | i mean i dont want advanced applications to be excluded |
| 08:09.21 | ilj | just go there, enter the name of application you don't want to run and restart your kde |
| 08:09.41 | bharat862004 | hey i cannot find kontrol center ... where is it ? |
| 08:09.52 | ilj | mandriva's weird |
| 08:10.12 | ilj | i used to run Mandrake 9.x (Dolphin series) |
| 08:10.39 | bharat862004 | any command for terminal to run kontrol center directly |
| 08:10.49 | ilj | bharat862004, kcontrol |
| 08:10.56 | ilj | there's KMenu ater all.. |
| 08:11.05 | ilj | have you got one? |
| 08:11.10 | bharat862004 | yes |
| 08:11.15 | ilj | wonderful |
| 08:11.16 | ilj | hit it |
| 08:11.24 | bharat862004 | lol... i dit |
| 08:11.27 | bharat862004 | i did |
| 08:11.31 | ilj | there's Control Center |
| 08:11.32 | ilj | see it? |
| 08:11.39 | ilj | hit it then |
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| 08:12.24 | bharat862004 | their isnt any control center in the start menu |
| 08:12.31 | ilj | weird |
| 08:12.40 | ilj | did I tell that mandrake is weird? |
| 08:12.50 | bharat862004 | yes u did ;) |
| 08:12.54 | ilj | oh, yes... anyway.. it's weird. |
| 08:13.08 | ilj | Alt+F2 |
| 08:13.14 | ilj | kcontrol |
| 08:13.22 | ilj | pray |
| 08:13.36 | bharat862004 | ok then i got kde control center.. next ? |
| 08:13.36 | ilj | if they [mandrake guys] decided to remove kcontrol |
| 08:13.41 | ilj | that's gonna be fun |
| 08:13.52 | Jucato | it's there actually. at least on 2007.1 Free |
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| 08:14.07 | ilj | you prayed good to your god and you've been fortunate |
| 08:14.21 | bharat862004 | ilj: next ?? |
| 08:14.30 | ilj | now you go this way: kde components->session manager |
| 08:15.04 | ilj | bharat862004, that's for you |
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| 08:15.04 | bharat862004 | yes listening to u sir |
| 08:15.04 | ilj | Jucato, you'll be blessed for that |
| 08:15.17 | ilj | bharat862004, Advanced |
| 08:15.19 | ilj | see that? |
| 08:15.44 | ilj | type in that nasty field any program you hate |
| 08:16.02 | bharat862004 | i see session manager |
| 08:16.14 | bharat862004 | but |
| 08:16.15 | ilj | this way you tell session manager not to run what you've typed in at start up time |
| 08:17.00 | ilj | btw there's no kreminder binary in my path |
| 08:17.12 | ilj | so what's that program? |
| 08:17.17 | ilj | how is it called ? |
| 08:17.18 | bharat862004 | ilj: hey i does not display anything when i type kreminder daemon |
| 08:17.33 | Jucato | korgac |
| 08:17.34 | bharat862004 | i dont remember the exact name... i need to reboot for that... |
| 08:17.51 | ilj | bharat862004, 11:24 < Jucato> korgac |
| 08:18.07 | bharat862004 | what ? |
| 08:18.23 | Jucato | <ilj> how is it called ? <---- korgac |
| 08:18.26 | ilj | bharat862004, that's KOrganizer Reminder Daemon |
| 08:18.31 | bharat862004 | yes |
| 08:18.39 | ilj | so type in korgac |
| 08:18.48 | ilj | and be gone |
| 08:18.58 | ilj | and come back and tell us you're happy :) |
| 08:19.03 | bharat862004 | ok |
| 08:19.11 | bharat862004 | rebooting system |
| 08:19.19 | ilj | system.. |
| 08:19.20 | ilj | jeez |
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| 08:27.32 | bharat862004 | ilj: problem is not solved but the solution u gave is not pretty easy on other applications if i want to disable other programs at startup.... like i dint know korgac was name given by kde for korganiser reminder daemon.... how do i know that for other applications ???? :) |
| 08:27.53 | ilj | you just learn |
| 08:27.55 | bharat862004 | sorry problem is solved |
| 08:28.02 | ilj | for instance |
| 08:28.05 | bharat862004 | made mistake while typing |
| 08:28.28 | bharat862004 | ok tell the solution for other applications ilj ? |
| 08:28.30 | bharat862004 | ilj: ? |
| 08:28.48 | bharat862004 | ilj: u their ? |
| 08:28.53 | ilj | you can run KMenu editor and look up the actual application names studying the menu entries details |
| 08:29.05 | bharat862004 | how to run that ? |
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| 08:29.32 | ilj | bharat862004, kmenuedit |
| 08:29.39 | bharat862004 | in terminal |
| 08:29.41 | bharat862004 | ? |
| 08:29.43 | magid | helo ppl |
| 08:29.52 | ilj | run the konsole and try to type in: k+TAB |
| 08:29.56 | ilj | magid, hi there |
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| 08:30.09 | ilj | bharat862004, there are many ways to run a programm |
| 08:30.32 | magid | sorry to intrude this is my first time in #kde |
| 08:30.44 | bharat862004 | it ok magid ;) |
| 08:30.46 | ilj | bharat862004, one is to use KMenu (which I personally user very seldom), ALT+F2 and enter the exact binary name to execute, konsole/xterm/etc. |
| 08:30.58 | ilj | magid, welcome then |
| 08:31.12 | magid | thanx ppl |
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| 08:32.19 | ilj | bharat862004, you can guess most of the time what application name is by using konsole+ shell command completion (this means typing in a few starting letters of a program name and hitting TAB key to see what matches your string) |
| 08:32.23 | ilj | try that |
| 08:32.24 | ilj | it's very convenient |
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| 08:32.37 | ilj | ilj@xerxes:~ % k |
| 08:32.38 | ilj | Display all 374 possibilities? (y or n) |
| 08:32.54 | ilj | bharat862004, see? i have 374 possibilities for application starting w/ k |
| 08:32.59 | ilj | most of the a KDE applications |
| 08:33.21 | ilj | most of them * |
| 08:33.27 | ilj | most of them are * |
| 08:33.28 | ilj | lol |
| 08:33.45 | bharat862004 | ilj: i got 300 possibil |
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| 08:34.21 | magid | since you guys are talking about consoles you should check out the 10 tips on this site: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2007-06-19-011-26-OS-HL |
| 08:34.26 | ilj | bharat862004, if you're not sure if the name in question is what you need then use --help switch with it. it'll tell you (most of the time) the full name of that program. |
| 08:34.50 | bharat862004 | .......... |
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| 08:39.00 | jiri_vetvicka | hi, where can i find David Faure or anybody who create svn accounts? |
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| 08:48.23 | Jucato | jiri_vetvicka: #kde-devel |
| 08:48.44 | jiri_vetvicka | thx |
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| 09:01.55 | crweb | is there anyway to make kde stop counting files and dirs on a copy and paste? Some of my dirs takes 5 minutes to count, but 30 seconds to copy |
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| 09:02.51 | ilj | crweb, why not give a try to plain: cp |
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| 09:02.52 | ilj | ? |
| 09:03.07 | crweb | yeah, i did. I gave up and cp'd it |
| 09:03.07 | ilj | crweb, mc, krusader might help you |
| 09:03.13 | crweb | kinda.. not the point though |
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| 09:03.33 | ilj | i usually use mc to copy large arrays of data |
| 09:03.59 | ilj | to handle abort/overwrite cases |
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| 09:06.29 | crweb | i don't think it should set for 5 minutes while counting photo files and be a 0%, then the move takes <30 seconds |
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| 09:07.57 | ilj | crweb, i think it's hardcoded so you can't really help a thing |
| 09:08.05 | ilj | that easily i mean |
| 09:08.24 | crweb | who even cares how many files.. its to late at that point |
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| 09:39.18 | kelvie | what part of KDE determines what fonts are rendered in konqueror? |
| 09:39.29 | kelvie | when I visit a page in Chinese some characters don't show up |
| 09:40.07 | xlinux | Amarok crashes offline, kaffeine wont play movies offline, and konqueror wont show mpeg thumbnails offline... all of this works perfect once I have an internet connection |
| 09:41.16 | xlinux | anyone? |
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| 09:46.34 | ilj | xlinux, internet is our god |
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| 09:48.16 | xlinux | yeah.. but i cant even play music offline? I know damn well I didnt have this problem with gnome |
| 09:48.19 | ilj | kelvie, seems like the font that is used to display chinese characters is missing symbols. that means you might try another font (i'd try to find one specifically designed for purpose of rendering chineese symbols) |
| 09:48.37 | ilj | xlinux, no idea, seriously |
| 09:49.08 | ilj | what you describe is pretty weird |
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| 09:49.46 | ilj | try to run say amarok from konsole and run an mp3 and see what it writes into that konsole |
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| 09:52.45 | Krooks | I'm compiling a program on konsole. Now I want to shutdown X and go to console. How can I let gcc keep running and close konsole > |
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| 09:52.46 | Krooks | ? |
| 09:53.05 | ilj | Krooks, you would want to use screen |
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| 09:54.00 | ilj | Krooks, alternatively you can hit ALT+F1-F6 to switch to linux console while running X session |
| 09:55.37 | xlinux | ilj.. already tried that.. it doesnt say anything |
| 09:55.53 | xlinux | it does say this when I open it though: |
| 09:55.56 | xlinux | kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::insertKAccel( kaccel = 0x8098cb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "play_pause" |
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| 09:56.43 | ilj | weird |
| 09:56.52 | Krooks | yeah I know, I should have used screen. I use it all the time but I forgot to use it this time. Is there some button combination I can press that will put the process into background ? |
| 09:57.07 | ilj | Krooks, dunno |
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| 09:57.14 | ilj | google for it |
| 09:57.26 | Krooks | Alt-F1-F6 ? |
| 09:57.43 | Krooks | you mean Alt-Ctrl-F1 , yes ? |
| 09:57.53 | ilj | oh yeah, exactly |
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| 10:01.34 | bharat862004 | how do i switch between only console and kde ???? |
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| 10:02.35 | ilj | bharat862004, 13:04 < Krooks> you mean Alt-Ctrl-F1 |
| 10:02.45 | ilj | then ALT+F7 to go back to X |
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| 10:03.19 | bharat862004 | ilj: thanks ;) |
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| 10:09.03 | Krooks | ok I know about those. But thank you |
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| 10:10.51 | ilj | Krooks, I didn't really understand what you want to do. You have compilation process running and you want to send it to background somehow in order to leave X session, correct? |
| 10:14.41 | Chani | I have this terribly annoying feeling that I was going to blog about something kde-related and don't know what |
| 10:15.06 | Chani | there's just this big blank spot in my mind. I know I wanted to blog about *something* |
| 10:15.18 | Chani | maybe I'll remember after dinnwr |
| 10:15.21 | bharat862004 | Chani: lol |
| 10:16.03 | ilj | Chani, bad luck |
| 10:16.30 | ilj | just blog about *something* |
| 10:16.50 | ilj | blogging is just writing about *something* after all |
| 10:17.19 | bharat862004 | wast of time |
| 10:18.18 | ilj | i wouldn't be that radical if i were you bharat862004 |
| 10:18.32 | ilj | there's a point in blogging |
| 10:18.38 | ilj | i do not blog |
| 10:18.56 | bharat862004 | ilj: ??? ;) |
| 10:18.58 | ilj | so don't think i'm a blogger advocating and pushing my beliefs on others |
| 10:19.17 | Chani | foooooooood |
| 10:19.18 | Chani | hehe |
| 10:19.30 | ilj | food eh? |
| 10:19.30 | ilj | id love some |
| 10:23.15 | bharat862004 | ilj: i have never heard anybody getting cash for that... ? |
| 10:23.33 | bharat862004 | for blogging which is why many people do for cash ;) |
| 10:23.35 | ilj | bharat862004, it doesn't mean nobody gets |
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| 10:24.17 | bharat862004 | ilj: but almost many dont get |
| 10:24.34 | ilj | right, so what's your point? |
| 10:24.54 | ilj | if you don't get money for anything you don't do that, right? |
| 10:25.00 | bharat862004 | ilj: one gets very meger cash for lot of work.... |
| 10:25.18 | ilj | some people feel passionate about blogging/programming/playing video games/etc. |
| 10:25.19 | bharat862004 | ilj: if 50 people visit then |
| 10:25.21 | ilj | and that's the reason |
| 10:26.06 | bharat862004 | ilj: thats different from earning cash... |
| 10:26.23 | kelvie | ilj: sorry for the late reply... but it doesn't seem like konqueror wants to use the font I chose |
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| 10:26.37 | kelvie | as in the fonts section |
| 10:26.40 | kelvie | (I use 3.5.7 btw) |
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| 10:27.42 | nsar | hello |
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| 10:28.30 | drindt | hello, my kde desktop isn't starting anymore because a window pops up and message me that the dcop server not running. but i dont know why not, someone can help me please? |
| 10:28.49 | nsar | when i am using wine to install windows apps instead that it will put on the desktop the icon of the app i am installing it will put i think so something with an ? in it, how can i fix this? |
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| 10:29.35 | Jucato | nsar: please ask in #winehq |
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| 10:30.51 | nsar | i did already |
| 10:31.01 | nsar | thanks |
| 10:31.11 | nsar | but still they didn't understand |
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| 10:32.43 | ilj | kelvie, can you use that font for widgets/titlebars/etc? |
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| 10:35.14 | Sho_ | kelvie: The font settings in the Konq preferences are for the default fonts in the absence of more specific directives embedded in the document - i.e. a website can override those settings by picking a font |
| 10:36.17 | kelvie | ilj: yeah.. arial unicode MS |
| 10:36.23 | kelvie | Sho_: hrm.. I think that may be the problem then |
| 10:36.38 | kelvie | Sho_: although I can see the characters in firefox |
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| 11:37.25 | ardchoille | in the replace dialog in kate, how do I replace { with {<newline> ? |
| 11:37.43 | ardchoille | I tried {\n but that didn't work |
| 11:42.49 | RawSewage | wont Kata autoformat it |
| 11:42.52 | RawSewage | Kate |
| 11:43.23 | ardchoille | I don't know, never done it |
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| 11:47.03 | gribouille | hi |
| 11:47.20 | gribouille | is it possible to configure the default web browser for kde or not ? |
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| 11:48.17 | ardchoille | gribouille: Open kcontrol.. go to KDE Components -> Default Applications and configure it from there. |
| 11:49.56 | gribouille | ardchoille, I don't have any "Default Applications" in "KDE Components" |
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| 11:50.38 | qupada | that's because the control panel in question is called 'component chooser' |
| 11:50.45 | qupada | not 'default applications' |
| 11:50.46 | ardchoille | gribouille: I'm using kde 3.5.6 , it must i a different place in your version of kde |
| 11:51.24 | gribouille | ardchoille, ok, thanks |
| 11:51.34 | ardchoille | You're welcome :) |
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| 11:53.40 | gribouille | it is possible to access the bookmarks directly from the K menu. however, is it possible to use the firefox bookmarks ? |
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| 11:55.51 | ardchoille | gribouille: I successfully imported firefox bookmarks. |
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| 11:56.10 | Sho_ | gribouille: Sadly, no. If Firefox were using XBEL to to store its bookmarks like nearly all other decent open source browsers, Konqueror and Firefox could actually share one bookmarks file on the disk. I suggest you ask the Firefox developers to move to XBEL from their legacy HTML format. |
| 11:56.14 | gribouille | that's not what I am trying to do |
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| 11:56.58 | gribouille | Sho_, why doesn't kde support html bookmarks ? |
| 11:57.38 | Sho_ | gribouille: We can import HTML bookmark files, but for storage, we use XBEL, because it's the better format. |
| 11:57.50 | eae | hello, I have a question: how can I set a mouse button to paste the second last string in the clipboard? (the same way as the middle button pastes the last string) |
| 11:58.12 | qupada | Sho_: 'legacy' only begins to describe it |
| 11:58.25 | Sho_ | Many other browsers use XBEL as well. Firefox doesn't. |
| 11:58.30 | qupada | i bet nutscrape 3 would be perfectly happy with a firefox 2 bookmarks.html file |
| 12:00.46 | gribouille | how does kde store bookmarks ? |
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| 12:01.08 | Sho_ | gribouille: In an XBEL file, as noted above. |
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| 12:01.22 | RawSewage | xml |
| 12:01.23 | gribouille | where is it ? |
| 12:01.38 | RawSewage | .kde/share/apps/konqueror |
| 12:01.43 | gribouille | ok |
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| 12:02.16 | Sho_ | That's for Konqueror's bookmarks. Other application bookmarks (Konsole, Konversation, etc.) are in the respective directories. XBEL is used for all of them. |
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| 12:04.06 | gribouille | is it possible to remove the bookmarks entry from the K menu ? |
| 12:04.25 | Chani | oh boy did I just get a shock |
| 12:04.38 | Sho_ | gribouille: yes, in KControl -> Desktop -> Panels -> Menus |
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| 12:05.10 | Chani | my darn possessed keys were stuck down again when I went to turn on the laptop. it interpreted this as some special request to choose the boot device. and then none of the other keys would work because of whatever was stuck down |
| 12:06.37 | gribouille | ok, thanks |
| 12:07.23 | Chani | now I'm going to go back up my data. which was luckily backed up just a couple weeks ago, too |
| 12:07.38 | padde | Chani: lol |
| 12:07.55 | padde | Chani: daily backups ftw ;) |
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| 12:08.49 | Lylie- | Hi guys, could someone help me? im trying to findout the model of my gfx card, how do I do that in Fedore please? |
| 12:09.21 | padde | Chani: my strategy: home will be rsynced to an external usb disk every day (only takes a couple of seconds, usually)... done with one keypress. the system is being backed up as full backup to the same harddisk, with dar. i do that every couple of days, and before i make major changes |
| 12:09.23 | Sho_ | Lylie-: 'lspci' should give you a clue |
| 12:09.27 | Sho_ | Lylie-: (as root) |
| 12:09.30 | Lylie- | thanks mate |
| 12:09.35 | Chani | I have svn backing up all my code, gmail has a copy of all my mail, I did a full backup to external hard drive recently, and I try to do regular backups of settings and randomcrap to cd |
| 12:09.48 | Sho_ | Lylie-: If you don't have 'lspci', you'll need to install the 'pciutils' package or somesuch |
| 12:10.06 | Chani | padde: that's a good idea |
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| 12:10.40 | Chani | argh. |
| 12:10.49 | padde | Chani: sounds like a long night when you really want to restore everything ;) for me it takes about half an hour... |
| 12:10.53 | Chani | kmail fails to understand that "forever" does not mean "a few minutes" |
| 12:11.22 | Lylie- | Sho I have PCIUTILS |
| 12:11.58 | Chani | padde: well, I don't expect to need to restore *everything*. far more likely that my laptop dies and I have to wait until I can get a new computer and set thigns up for that new one |
| 12:12.30 | padde | Chani: harddisks die... my laptop's disk died after half a year |
| 12:12.35 | Chani | gives me a chance to clean out crud if I don't just have an image to copy over |
| 12:13.05 | padde | Chani: and by the way: my gentoo installation is older than this laptop - i just restored it to the new laptop, changed some configs :) finished after 2 hours, everything perfect |
| 12:13.20 | Chani | padde: I'm not sure how I'd get replacement parts for my laptop while I'm in china. heck, I can't even remember the specs for this thing. I know it takes lots of weird extra-small parts |
| 12:13.41 | padde | Chani: not image, that is bad if you have different partition sizes and stuff... i prefer dar - great tool. |
| 12:13.49 | Chani | dar? |
| 12:14.35 | padde | Chani: heavily improved tar, made for random access media |
| 12:14.45 | Chani | hmm. I broke my qt-copy and I can't figure out how to unbreak it without rebuilding the whole thing. it's missing some file. |
| 12:14.57 | Chani | ah' |
| 12:15.49 | padde | Chani: and by the way - buying a laptop harddisk is no problem at all here |
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| 12:16.03 | Jucato | Sho_!!!!!! :) |
| 12:16.19 | user1_ | how long will it take to compile kde on 3GHz cpu, with 256MB ram |
| 12:16.24 | Sho_ | hi Jucato |
| 12:16.32 | Jucato | aw... not "moin"? :( |
| 12:16.41 | user1_ | i'm making kde packages for my OS |
| 12:17.08 | Sho_ | Jucato: too big of a headache for "moin" (= moien dag = guten tag = good day ;) |
| 12:17.27 | Jucato | Sho_: aw.... you have a headache :( |
| 12:17.45 | Sho_ | Chani: you could direct/copy the constant stream of mishaps you tell us about in here to your blog - you'd have something multiple times a day it seems ;) *ducks* |
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| 12:17.55 | Chani | padde: I still haven't figured out how to ask for an mp3 player with the features I want :) |
| 12:18.39 | Chani | Sho_: and then people on the planet would complain instead :) |
| 12:19.05 | padde | Chani: hehe, better find the model you want by researching on the net and then go to the shop with the model name |
| 12:19.14 | Sho_ | Chani: Easy fix: Get a blog software that can generate RSS feeds on a per-category basis, and subscribe the KDE category feed to the planet instead of the cumulative one |
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| 12:19.35 | Chani | padde: how would one find the shop with the model name? |
| 12:19.58 | Chani | the only brand name I've seen around here is ipod |
| 12:20.26 | Chani | every thing else is mysterious-chinese-thing-that-might-not-even-be-an-mp3-player |
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| 12:20.37 | padde | Chani: they also have Creative Labs stuff.. iRiver (which sucks now, but was good some years ago)... i think all major brands |
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| 12:21.28 | Chani | padde: who is "they"? |
| 12:21.36 | padde | Chani: the dealers ;) |
| 12:21.43 | padde | Chani: at least over here in SH |
| 12:22.06 | reisii | #austriangeekforce |
| 12:22.10 | Chani | I know of one place on wensan lu that has a bunch of little stalls selling various electronics things |
| 12:22.13 | padde | Chani: heck, you can even buy all kinds of electronic stuff, including laptops and mobiles in the subway station ;) |
| 12:22.18 | Chani | lol |
| 12:22.23 | user1_ | so what operating system you guys running |
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| 12:22.48 | Chani | I need to try and bug some people that actually live here.. so far everyone I know has been amazingly clueless as to what is where |
| 12:22.57 | eae | how can I set a mouse button to paste the second last string in the clipboard? (the same way as the middle button pastes the last string) |
| 12:23.28 | Sho_ | eae: You could use xbindkeys to bind the button event to an xclip command, or a dcop call to Klipper if you run that. |
| 12:23.29 | padde | Chani: heh... let me guess, you asked girls :P |
| 12:23.53 | Chani | hey :P |
| 12:24.19 | padde | Chani: well... the boys buy the mp3 player for the girls here... so the girls don't know where to get them ;) |
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| 12:24.31 | user1_ | are you a pretty girl or ugly girl |
| 12:24.40 | eae | Sho_, I have found the dcop command to change the content of the clipboard, but I don't know how to paste it in the window under the mouse cursor |
| 12:24.46 | eae | with a script I mean |
| 12:24.50 | padde | user1_: you have strange questions... |
| 12:25.03 | Chani | lol |
| 12:25.19 | user1_ | padde, ok |
| 12:25.19 | Lylie- | I just tried installing my gfx drivers, says I need to exit X.. im pretty new to linux to be easy with me :P, but how do i quit X ? |
| 12:25.29 | user1_ | Chani, are you good looking? |
| 12:25.41 | padde | Lylie-: "log out" |
| 12:25.44 | user1_ | as pretty as the new kde 3.5.7? |
| 12:25.54 | Chani | 0.o |
| 12:25.55 | Sho_ | user1_, please stop harassing. |
| 12:25.59 | padde | Lylie-: the quickest way (save everything before you do that!): press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace |
| 12:26.09 | user1_ | or you are like twm, lol |
| 12:26.17 | Lylie- | brb fone |
| 12:26.22 | user1_ | it was harassing |
| 12:26.47 | Chani | Lylie-: watch out though, ctrl-alt-backspace will forcibly kill X and everything trunning under it. you probably don't want to do that |
| 12:27.08 | padde | Chani: did i say something else? :P |
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| 12:27.13 | Sho_ | eae: you could use getClipBoardHistoryItem to get the contents from Kipper, and then use xclip (cli util to do x clipboard things) to paste it |
| 12:27.20 | user1_ | Chani, you have used many windows manager/de, right? |
| 12:27.28 | Chani | padde: you didn't explain what it actually does :) |
| 12:27.43 | eae | ok Sho_ , I'll look at this xclip thing :) |
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| 12:28.16 | user1_ | Chani, which windowmanager/de can best describe about your appearance? for example, twm, fluxbox, blackbox, icewm, xfce, gnome, kde |
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| 12:28.35 | padde | user1_: how about you just go somewhere else? |
| 12:28.44 | Sho_ | I did warn him. |
| 12:28.45 | padde | there... is a good place, for example |
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| 12:33.34 | eae | Sho_, I read the xclip man page, but it seems I still have to press the middle button to erform the paste :< |
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| 12:33.40 | eae | perform^ |
| 12:34.00 | Sho_ | eae: Another hack I could imagine is to use xvkbd to send Ctrl+C to the window ... ;) |
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| 12:35.20 | eae | hmm it makes sense :p |
| 12:36.04 | padde | eae: by the way, why do you want to do that? |
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| 12:37.14 | eae | because my 5th mouse button has no use and I frequently need to paste the second last text I selected |
| 12:37.17 | eae | padde, ^ |
| 12:37.37 | ardchoille | You can setup xclip: hilight a link, press a kb shortcut and have xclip send the current hilighted url to another app |
| 12:38.33 | padde | i guess it would not be too hard to patch klipper to also provide a global shortcut to insert the second last history item ;) |
| 12:38.44 | eae | ardchoille, I think xclip can only change the content of the clipboard, but You still have to press the middle button to paste it |
| 12:39.15 | eae | maybe I should make a feature request to the klipper programmers :p |
| 12:39.27 | Sho_ | eae: No need, it exists |
| 12:39.37 | Sho_ | (the feature request report) |
| 12:39.46 | eae | aha |
| 12:40.07 | ardchoille | eae: I have xclip setup to do this: hilight a url in konsole, press alt+z and xclip opens firefox to that url |
| 12:40.32 | Sho_ | ardchoille: ... which is not what he's trying to do |
| 12:40.39 | ardchoille | Ah, ok |
| 12:40.40 | eae | yeah I have similar things set up in klipper ^^ |
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| 12:41.51 | Lylie- | Hey guys |
| 12:42.05 | Lylie- | Im trying to turn X off, how do i use a terminal login other than using the GUI |
| 12:42.15 | Lylie- | Because I cant install my gfx card with X |
| 12:42.30 | Chani | hmm. the trolls are getting weirder and weirder lately |
| 12:43.21 | Chani | Lylie-: you mean ctrl-alt-f1? |
| 12:43.31 | Lylie- | aah |
| 12:43.33 | Lylie- | thanks m8 |
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| 12:45.24 | Lylie | Hi again |
| 12:45.26 | Lylie | I did that and got the terminal login |
| 12:45.39 | Lylie | but on trying to fun my gfx card installer it says there is still an X server running :s |
| 12:46.17 | Lylie- | Any ideas please? |
| 12:47.22 | padde | Lylie-: which distribution are you using? |
| 12:47.28 | Sho_ | Ask in #yourdistro about how to disable the graphical login manager boot service temporarily, or change the default runlevel |
| 12:47.32 | Lylie | Fedora core 7 |
| 12:47.54 | Lylie | pretty new to all this to be honest guys so apologies in advance |
| 12:48.04 | Sho_ | #fedora, then |
| 12:48.08 | Xcon | aaahh |
| 12:48.11 | Xcon | sorry dudes ;) |
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| 12:48.35 | Chani | a graphics card installer? odd |
| 12:48.45 | padde | hm.... i seem to have gotten a write-only usb-stick |
| 12:48.54 | Sho_ | Chani: Both nVidia and ATI offer installers for their proprietary drivers |
| 12:48.57 | Chani | I thought only windows had such things :) |
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| 13:02.31 | anisfarhana | greetings all |
| 13:02.55 | anisfarhana | i got kbuildsycoca crash on kde startup , any idea why ? |
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| 13:14.57 | daquino | in kmserver putting defaultWM=xxx under [General] should startup that program correct ? |
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| 13:24.26 | leo__ | hi, is it possible to convert "scroll down" to "key down" presses? i want to scroll with my mouse wheel in man pages. any ideas? |
| 13:25.10 | Sho_ | leo__: Use man:/ in Konqueror, it supports mouse wheel events- |
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| 13:25.13 | Jucato | may I introduce you to the man:/ kioslave |
| 13:25.15 | Jucato | bah.... |
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| 13:25.56 | jihi | hi, is there a live spellcheck in KILE, which underlines wrong words? |
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| 13:29.22 | leo__ | Jucato, thanks ... not installed oO |
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| 13:30.54 | leo__ | Jucato, yes, that works thanks, was only interested in what kioslave is |
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| 13:32.08 | Sho_ | leo__ "KIO" is "KDE Input/Output", KDEs modular abstraction layer to read and write data |
| 13:32.18 | Chani | hey, there's another post about nepomuk on liquidat's blog. wonder why that stuff isn't on planetkde... |
| 13:32.25 | Sho_ | leo__: the man:/ kioslave is in the 'kdebase-kioslaves' package, since you seem to be running Gentoo |
| 13:32.51 | Sho_ | Chani: It's on the dot, fwiw |
| 13:33.37 | Chani | Sho_: I'm not seeing it |
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| 13:33.39 | leo__ | Sho_, youre right :) |
| 13:33.57 | Sho_ | Chani: http://dot.kde.org/1182208895/ |
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| 13:36.36 | Gekkko[PDA] | bloaaat :) |
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| 13:37.05 | Jucato | oh root... so nice :) |
| 13:37.08 | Jucato | so tempting :) |
| 13:40.25 | prestwick | Sounds like a recipe for disaster! |
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| 13:43.59 | jriachi | hello |
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| 13:45.40 | jriachi | (is there a way/plugin/whatever... , so that konqueror can tell me something about a folder size (maybe the numer of elements inside it or something...) instead of a useless "4kB"? |
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| 13:52.01 | SamuraiDio | hi |
| 13:53.44 | SamuraiDio | i installed gtk-qt-engine to use the kde style on my gtk apps, it works well, but it runs on Xfce too, what makes all my gtk style very ugly (because it applies two GTK styles, the KDE's and the Xfce's), how can i make my gtk-qt-engine work just on KDE? |
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| 13:55.43 | ubuntuEdgy | SamuraiDio: mi know what you mean very anoying |
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| 13:56.01 | ubuntuEdgy | its the same with applications. |
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| 13:56.21 | ubuntuEdgy | try and mass about with the theme stuff |
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| 14:14.25 | torarne | Q: Is there any way to get overlay icons on my files and folders in Konqueror when they are under revision control (cvs/svn) like TortoiseSVN for Windows? Thanks |
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| 14:16.08 | SamuraiDio | i installed gtk-qt-engine to use the kde style on my gtk apps, it works well, but it runs on Xfce too, what makes all my gtk style very ugly (because it applies two GTK styles, the KDE's and the Xfce's), how can i make my gtk-qt-engine work just on KDE? |
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| 14:17.35 | Sho_ | SamuraiDio: The current development version of Gtk-Qt-Engine affects only KDE, by placing a shell script in ~/.kde/env that exports GTK2_RC_FILES=$HOME/.gtkrc-2.0-kde |
| 14:18.02 | Sho_ | SamuraiDio: Which makes GTK2 look at .gtkrc-2.0-kde for its config within the KDE session, rather than the normal .gtkrc-2.0. And Gtk-Qt-Engine then writes into the former. |
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| 14:19.54 | SamuraiDio | Sho_, what its version? |
| 14:20.48 | SamuraiDio | Sho_, 0.8~svn-rev36-2 ?? |
| 14:20.54 | Sho_ | SamuraiDio: None; I'm referring to the SVN version. You can easily recreate the above setup even with the stable version, however, by copying the config generated by the KControl module to .gtkrc-2.0-kde and using the ~/.kde/env trick. |
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| 14:22.34 | Przemcio78 | hi, does anyone here use qt4 apps? i've got a problem with changing qt4 theme |
| 14:23.16 | Przemcio78 | i try to do it via qtconfig, it selects the style but the style used it the apps is different anyway |
| 14:23.37 | Sho_ | Make sure you're using Qt4's qtconfig, not Qt3s, if you have both installed. |
| 14:23.42 | Przemcio78 | used IN the apps* |
| 14:23.49 | Jucato | my response time is sooo late today.. |
| 14:23.58 | Przemcio78 | it's qt4 qtconfig for sure |
| 14:25.26 | Przemcio78 | qtconfig's ui uses the selected theme |
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| 14:26.19 | SamuraiDio | Sho_, i have these file under my $home: .gtkrc-2.0 .gtkrc-2.0-kde .gtk_qt_engine_rc, but no one is being used at this time, since im using xfce-mcs-manager, and i ununstalled gtk-qt-engine, if i reinstall it, my gtk-styles becomes bugged |
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| 14:27.26 | Przemcio78 | btw, the theme's name is qtcurve (already ported to kde4 and qt4), and i wanted to use it with my qt4 apps |
| 14:28.27 | Przemcio78 | i installed it without kde4 support, just qt4 (i haven't got kde4) |
| 14:28.28 | Sho_ | SamuraiDio: The principle is simple: Shell scripts placed in ~/.kde/env are read by KDE's startup script, but none of the other desktop environments. So by exporting GTK2_RC_FILES in a shell script in ~/.kde/env, you can make GTK2 use a specific config file when it runs inside a KDE session, but use its normal config file elsewhere. |
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| 14:29.44 | Sho_ | SamuraiDio: You can leverage that mechanic to keep Gtk-Qt-Engine's settings specific to KDE, as the current development version of Gtk-Qt-Engine does, too. You'll just have to be a bit careful with older versions, because making changes in the KControl module will write them to ~/.gtkrc-2.0, which will probably affect XFce again. |
| 14:30.20 | SamuraiDio | sure, this was my problem |
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| 14:32.12 | jriachi | so... if i say GTK2_RC_FILES="" gimp i get the standard theme... cool :) (I learn something everyday... thanks Sho_) |
| 14:32.37 | Sho_ | np |
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| 14:38.49 | Przemcio78 | i think i know what the problem is |
| 14:39.43 | Przemcio78 | the 2 qt4 apps i checked out might use static qt, i checked out smplayer and it uses the new style correctly |
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| 14:42.32 | Przemcio78 | or, i don't know, i don't see any qt4 libs inside last.fm folder, it's strange last.fm doesn't use correct qt style |
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| 14:50.18 | SamuraiDio | Sho_, it seens it works alright, i installe the svn version from the debian unstable repository, tnx |
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| 14:51.59 | SamuraiDio | do someone knows some vista like kde-style? |
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| 14:53.12 | bram85 | SamuraiDio: if there is one, it is on www.kde-look.org |
| 14:53.45 | SamuraiDio | i haven't found there... just beryl themes... |
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| 14:58.21 | killermach_ | how do I change the font style on the desktop icons? |
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| 14:59.58 | bram85 | killermach_: control center -> appearance & themes -> fonts |
| 15:00.11 | bram85 | killermach_: there you'll see a entry for the font style for the desktop |
| 15:02.18 | killermach_ | bram85, ok.. here is my issue in detail.. the current icon labels are in desktop-colorish with lightgrey outline. I would like to have just black text for icon labels |
| 15:02.37 | bram85 | killermach_: ok that's another section |
| 15:02.58 | bram85 | killermach_: right click desktop, properties, button advanced options |
| 15:04.55 | killermach_ | bram85, aah.. that made a change :) thank you |
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| 15:13.33 | dfgas | how do i get the things that are mounted in media like gnome to show up on the kde desktop? |
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| 15:20.49 | jriachi | dfgas: right click on the desktop -> behavious -> device icons |
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| 15:21.37 | jriachi | dfgas: right click on the desktop -> configure desktop -> behaviour -> device icons |
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| 15:33.38 | dfgas | how do i rename the icons? i get remote share ( |
| 15:33.49 | dfgas | i want it like photos and users |
| 15:35.21 | dfgas | when i try to it just gives me somelike access denide |
| 15:36.44 | jriachi | dfgas: mmm.. they get the name you said in /etc/fstab... if you want to personalize icons, you'll have to add them via rightclick->add new->link to device |
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| 15:37.17 | jriachi | (at least it is what I do... I don't know if there is a better/simpler way :S) |
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| 17:01.32 | CPrgmSwR2 | In my game kollagame as the users develops the level, should everything be frozen for animated objects or should there be animations? |
| 17:02.03 | CPrgmSwR2 | nevermind I will just make it a settings option |
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| 17:02.21 | Fusselwurm | qt |
| 17:02.27 | Fusselwurm | oops |
| 17:03.07 | Jejem | CPrgmSwR2: animations in a level-editor sucks |
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| 17:03.41 | CPrgmSwR2 | Jejem: thnx |
| 17:03.45 | CPrgmSwR2 | Thats what I thought |
| 17:03.55 | CPrgmSwR2 | makes my life easier as a programmer |
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| 17:04.44 | iRRVi | how come i get the error abotu ksstartupconfig but none of the solutions on the internet work? |
| 17:05.35 | iRRVi | is there something im missing? |
| 17:06.28 | iRRVi | it says "no usch file or directory" |
| 17:06.37 | iRRVi | *such |
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| 17:12.52 | iRRVi | ehllo? |
| 17:13.49 | dc905 | hi |
| 17:13.52 | iRRVi | hi |
| 17:15.37 | Dr_willis | Moo! |
| 17:15.52 | iRRVi | eh? |
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| 17:17.09 | iRRVi | how come i get the error abotu ksstartupconfig but none of the solutions on the internet work? it says "no such file or directory"...how do i fix it? |
| 17:17.33 | Pollywog | how do I get kmix not to open a Window when KDE starts? I just want it to start in the tray and I am using PC-BSD |
| 17:17.41 | Pollywog | it does not do that in Linux |
| 17:18.12 | Dr_willis | I think it got saved to your 'session' of open apps. Try closing it and saving your session. |
| 17:18.22 | Dr_willis | Seen this a few other times here and there. |
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| 17:19.08 | glasscasket | I'm using Ark, but how can I open a rar with a password? |
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| 17:21.05 | iRRVi | how come i get the error abotu ksstartupconfig but none of the solutions on the internet work? it says "no such file or directory"...how do i fix it? |
| 17:21.14 | Skrot- | Good question, I don't think ark supports rar very well.. and speaking of ark; what's going to happend to it in KDE 4? |
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| 17:22.00 | glasscasket | Skrot-: Do you know how to use rar and passwords? Mine never seems to work. |
| 17:22.07 | Skrot- | No idea :) |
| 17:22.20 | glasscasket | Alright, thanjks |
| 17:22.34 | Skrot- | You might have better luck with unrar or rar |
| 17:22.37 | Skrot- | From command line |
| 17:22.39 | iRRVi | hwo come it seems like everyone gets helped but me? |
| 17:22.50 | iRRVi | oh well |
| 17:22.56 | iRRVi | how come i get the error abotu ksstartupconfig but none of the solutions on the internet work? it says "no such file or directory"...how do i fix it? |
| 17:23.49 | Skrot- | iRRVi: Patience :) |
| 17:23.53 | Pollywog | I can't find the place to save my session although I see the session manager |
| 17:24.34 | Skrot- | Pollywog: Just logging out of KDE using the K-menu will save the session methinks |
| 17:24.38 | Pollywog | kde 3.5.6 |
| 17:24.54 | Pollywog | skrot yes that works except for kmix |
| 17:25.19 | Pollywog | I will exclude it from session management and see what happens |
| 17:25.45 | iRRVi | hmmm |
| 17:25.53 | iRRVi | could i just create the file i need? |
| 17:26.02 | Skrot- | What's the name of the file? |
| 17:26.47 | iRRVi | kstartupconfig me thinks |
| 17:26.49 | Pollywog | iRRVi let me see what mine looks like, I have 3.5.6 |
| 17:27.12 | iRRVi | thankies |
| 17:27.19 | Skrot- | iRRVi: kstartupconfig is a binary executable |
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| 17:27.41 | Skrot- | Located in /usr/bin/ on my computer. Which distro do you use? |
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| 17:27.52 | iRRVi | slackware |
| 17:28.01 | Pollywog | oh yes it is a binary |
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| 17:28.11 | iRRVi | hmmm |
| 17:28.26 | Skrot- | Okay, it's part of the kdelibs-package on ubuntu, I don't know how slackware works. Does it have a packaging-system like debian? |
| 17:28.37 | iRRVi | hmmm |
| 17:28.44 | Pollywog | mine is in /usr/local/bin but I am running PC-BSD here |
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| 17:29.09 | Pollywog | no slack does not use the same as Debian |
| 17:29.16 | iRRVi | actually - it says right here on the commandline - $HOME/.kde/share/config/startupconfig is the file i need |
| 17:29.18 | Skrot- | I know it doesn't use the same |
| 17:29.27 | iRRVi | it does |
| 17:29.33 | iRRVi | but you have to mannually get the pakcages |
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| 17:29.39 | iRRVi | they're .tgz |
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| 17:30.05 | Skrot- | I think you can just touch that config file |
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| 17:30.05 | iRRVi | i installed every last one of the kde packages from my slackware cd |
| 17:30.19 | Pollywog | yes touching that should work |
| 17:30.22 | iRRVi | k |
| 17:30.26 | Skrot- | Might want to add kpersonalizerrc_general_firstlogin="false" |
| 17:30.38 | Skrot- | So you don't get that personalizing thingy on startup |
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| 17:30.56 | iRRVi | k |
| 17:31.12 | Skrot- | And it seems to be a bash-file, starts with #!/bin/bash |
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| 17:32.05 | Skrot- | bash-script* |
| 17:32.10 | iRRVi | yes |
| 17:32.20 | iRRVi | with home i might not be coming back here for a while |
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| 17:32.36 | iRRVi | actually - i'll come back to tell you if it worked |
| 17:32.46 | Pollywog | k |
| 17:33.11 | kouji | hello, how can I make konqueror display image thumbnails with the frame like nautilus (similarly is it possible with the move thumbnails)? |
| 17:33.33 | iRRVi | i need libqt-mt.so.3 |
| 17:34.11 | Pollywog | let me hop over to debian and do an apt-file check on that |
| 17:35.49 | iRRVi | errr...qt* |
| 17:36.13 | Pollywog | on Etch the packages that have that are libqt3-mt and qt-x11-free-dbg |
| 17:36.32 | iRRVi | hehehe |
| 17:36.48 | Pollywog | I can check Ubuntu also |
| 17:37.17 | iRRVi | i got it |
| 17:37.27 | Pollywog | k |
| 17:37.28 | iRRVi | i just installed gt*.tgz off my slack cd |
| 17:37.37 | iRRVi | *qt*.tgz |
| 17:37.45 | iRRVi | hehehe |
| 17:37.51 | iRRVi | i gotta get a screenshot of this |
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| 17:38.02 | iRRVi | its half fluxbox half kde |
| 17:38.30 | Pollywog | btw sometimes you don't get answers to questions but it is not that you are being ignored |
| 17:38.37 | Pollywog | sometimes ppl don't know |
| 17:38.45 | Pollywog | or they are helping someone else |
| 17:38.48 | iRRVi | yeah |
| 17:39.06 | iRRVi | but...hahahha |
| 17:39.08 | iRRVi | this is swiit |
| 17:39.20 | iRRVi | i gotta show you this |
| 17:39.25 | Pollywog | there is one guy in another channel who is rude, so in his case he is being ignored |
| 17:39.33 | Pollywog | k |
| 17:39.51 | SimAtWork | hey all |
| 17:40.47 | iRRVi | http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=halfnhalfkz2.png |
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| 17:42.16 | Pollywog | is fluxbox like xfce? |
| 17:42.21 | iRRVi | kinda |
| 17:42.24 | Pollywog | looks like it |
| 17:42.50 | iRRVi | but instead of the "Start" button - you right click the background to get the "start" menu |
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| 17:43.03 | Pollywog | oic |
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| 17:43.51 | iRRVi | but this is ownage |
| 17:44.01 | iRRVi | I'm gunna try running beryl in it |
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| 17:46.43 | Pollywog | funny I have a .fluxbox directory even though I have never used it here |
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| 17:47.32 | fedora_ | why is kde 3.5 out? |
| 17:47.37 | fedora_ | its the newest right? |
| 17:47.39 | fedora_ | exit |
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| 17:47.45 | irrvi | yay! |
| 17:47.48 | fedora_ | hi irrvi |
| 17:47.55 | fedora_ | hi iRRVi |
| 17:48.02 | iRRVi | hi] |
| 17:48.47 | AZ88 | hi |
| 17:48.52 | AZ88 | whats up |
| 17:48.56 | AZ88 | bye |
| 17:49.15 | runlevel_10 | :) |
| 17:49.22 | runlevel_10 | nah |
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| 17:50.16 | iRRVi | i have a Q |
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| 17:51.01 | iRRVi | is this considered and error: ** (beryl-manager:7835): CRITICAL **: No Display Manager Found: Sucess |
| 17:51.39 | benJIman | iRRVi: beryl is nothing todo with kde. |
| 17:52.04 | iRRVi | i know |
| 17:52.17 | iRRVi | but is it considered an error or not |
| 17:52.29 | iRRVi | its confusing me! |
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| 17:52.50 | iRRVi | oh well |
| 17:52.52 | iRRVi | bbl |
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| 18:00.17 | notlabled | is there any way to define startup priority of programs started with kde? I'd like to have knetworkmanager started before programs using the network, always |
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| 18:05.00 | landley | Would somebody please explain to me why the mouse wheel doesn't honor "click to focus"? |
| 18:05.21 | landley | I just confirmed that my policy is set on click to focus, yet what the mouse wheel does depends on what the cursor is over, not what has focus. |
| 18:05.32 | landley | This bit me about five times before I bothered to look it up. It didn't do that before I upgraded. |
| 18:05.49 | landley | Maybe it's a Kubuntu 7.04 bug...? |
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| 18:10.41 | Mr | boa tarde a todos |
| 18:12.13 | Mr | Quando tiro uma screenshot no kde, a screen fica em branco, alguem sabe o porque ? |
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| 18:29.21 | illogic-al | Anybody alive out there on the interwebs? |
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| 18:32.38 | jco | hi, I upgraded to kde 3.5.7 (35.1) on suse, and now the "Switch One Desktop (Up, down, right, left) doesn't work anymore. Only down and up work like the next/previous. Is the feature going to disappear? |
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| 18:35.44 | bsdfox_ | jco: probably just a keyboard shortcut |
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| 18:37.12 | jco | bsdfox_: uh? yes, it's all about the keyboard shortcut... anyway, in the meantime I found a bug already open for this problem at http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-bugs/2007-06/all.html |
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| 18:41.13 | bsdfox_ | jco: you realize you can assign keyboard shortcuts in kcontrol? |
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| 18:42.51 | jco | bsdfox_: yes, and it's there, like it has always been. it just doesn't work anymore |
| 18:43.23 | jco | I also tried to redefine it, and also assign a second combination, with no success |
| 18:43.40 | bsdfox_ | oh |
| 18:43.56 | jco | but I see it has been fixed upstream, so I'll wait |
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| 18:49.58 | jco | thx anyway, bye :) |
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| 19:23.02 | Blissex | peculair issue: I have Fedora 6 with KDE 3.5.5 and since upgrading to the latter I get this annoying behaviour: when the screen lock autostarts, it starts in dozens of instances. I have messed around recently adding a second screen without XINERAMA, so now I have two separate desktops etc. |
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| 19:46.40 | Hail_Spacecake | is there another channel for wifi/kwifimanager-related questions? |
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| 19:51.37 | glasscasket | How can I edit KDE so it let's me log in as root? I accidently took my user out of the whell group lol |
| 19:53.34 | annma | you need to run kcontrol to tell kdm to allow root |
| 19:53.48 | glasscasket | Thanks |
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| 19:54.03 | annma | or in terminal: kcmshell kdm |
| 19:54.21 | annma | will bring you the kdm config module alone |
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| 20:10.18 | odla | how can i make knetworkmanager start automatically when i start kde? |
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| 20:31.13 | Ze_M | thiago: can you help with ksshaskpass/ssh-agent? |
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| 20:31.33 | thiago | I can try |
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| 20:31.54 | Ze_M | did you ever used ksshaskpass? |
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| 20:32.00 | thiago | but that's not an application in the KDE repositories, so I don't have it |
| 20:32.03 | thiago | no, never used it. |
| 20:32.26 | odla | how do i set kwin and konqueror to open things on a single click |
| 20:32.29 | Ze_M | are you used to work with ssh-agent? |
| 20:32.41 | Ze_M | odla: run kcontrol and go to mouse |
| 20:33.49 | odla | Ze_M: thanks |
| 20:34.36 | Ze_M | thiago: i have created a ssh RSA identity but when i run ksshagent appears empty |
| 20:35.19 | thiago | Ze_M: I use ssh-agent, but no askpass |
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| 20:40.06 | Arnomane | hi folks are there any people around that create (inofficial) binary packages of KDE releases for different distributions |
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| 20:50.13 | ferret_0567 | If I want to uninstall juk, noatun, kaboodle, and kmid (i'm using LFS), all I have to do is delete their executables? |
| 20:50.57 | ferret_0567 | hello? |
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| 21:00.03 | Arnomane | ferret_0567: no |
| 21:00.06 | Arnomane | ferret_0567: make uninstall |
| 21:00.41 | Arnomane | if you still have installed the sources you used for compiling |
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| 21:01.38 | ferret_0567 | nope |
| 21:01.40 | Arnomane | ferret_0567: another idea for the future: use checkinstall see http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ |
| 21:02.06 | ferret_0567 | I guess I'll recompile the sources and say to not compile anything I don't want removed |
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| 21:02.17 | Arnomane | no this won't work |
| 21:02.27 | Arnomane | although I don't know LFS in detail |
| 21:03.01 | Arnomane | you'd need to resinstall the whole system anew |
| 21:03.26 | ferret_0567 | ok |
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| 21:03.59 | Arnomane | cause the system does not know which files are not needed anylonger as LFS does not have a package management system |
| 21:04.18 | ferret_0567 | so, I just compile the source and run "make uninstall", then "make clean" and after that, the standard build procedures |
| 21:04.27 | ferret_0567 | I won't need to recompile KDE |
| 21:04.39 | ferret_0567 | I don't have Amarok or anything yet |
| 21:04.51 | thiago | generally packages don't install the same file twice |
| 21:04.57 | thiago | each file belongs to a single package |
| 21:05.00 | thiago | even from tarballs |
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| 21:06.21 | ferret_0567 | this checkinstall thing seems very good |
| 21:06.28 | Arnomane | ferret_0567: you can do this: take exactly the sources you did complile that time make a ./configure with the options you did in the past and then do a make uninstall |
| 21:06.56 | ferret_0567 | so, I don't have to actually compile sources to do a make uninstall? |
| 21:07.04 | Arnomane | this does *maybe* work in case you do this very carefully |
| 21:07.06 | Arnomane | ye |
| 21:07.06 | Arnomane | s |
| 21:07.22 | ferret_0567 | ok |
| 21:07.26 | Arnomane | I won't recommend that of course ;-) |
| 21:07.54 | Arnomane | I'd recommend gentoo or at least checkinstall |
| 21:08.03 | Arnomane | for the future |
| 21:08.17 | ferret_0567 | ok |
| 21:08.35 | ferret_0567 | what files does checkinstall install? |
| 21:08.46 | ferret_0567 | docs + the checkinstall binary only? |
| 21:09.44 | ferret_0567 | I'll check "make -n install" |
| 21:09.53 | Arnomane | don't know exactly Im a binary distribution user that only compiles single applications from time to time, I have always used a precompiled and packaged checkinstall |
| 21:10.15 | ferret_0567 | hmm...what files do you have from checkinstall? |
| 21:11.13 | ferret_0567 | for debian it's dpkg -L <package> |
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| 21:12.14 | Arnomane | I never did look and its not on this system here ;-) |
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| 21:16.03 | S0NiC | hi |
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| 21:20.47 | diego_ | so,;.. |
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| 21:41.06 | Anarky | hi there |
| 21:41.13 | Anarky | I've got a problem with kmail |
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| 21:41.42 | Anarky | yesterday, my hd was full |
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| 21:42.08 | Anarky | and know kmail can't see the mail n my inbox anymore |
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| 21:42.23 | Anarky | but thei're still there |
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| 21:42.34 | Anarky | just, the index is broken |
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| 21:43.09 | Anarky | I think it's maildir format (1 file/mail) |
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| 21:43.24 | Anarky | do you know how to regenerate the index ? |
| 21:43.34 | thiago | the easiest way is to remove the index file |
| 21:43.41 | thiago | it's a hidden file in the same directory |
| 21:43.59 | thiago | if you're using disconnected IMAP, there's an option to do that in the right-click menu for any mail folder |
| 21:44.02 | Anarky | yes, I've found it |
| 21:44.19 | Anarky | but, no, it's local maildir |
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| 21:44.29 | Anarky | I'll try moving the index file |
| 21:44.31 | Anarky | thanks |
| 21:45.35 | thiago | with KMail not running |
| 21:45.39 | Anarky | thaks so much |
| 21:45.42 | Anarky | it worked |
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| 21:46.13 | Anarky | that's when you think of making backups ! |
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| 21:56.25 | deitarion | `dcop kicker kicker restart` killed the tray icons for all my non-GTK apps. Any way to get them back without restarting my session? (I don't feel like using kill -9 on two Konqueror windows with over a dozen tabs each and then rebuilding them. The crash recovery plugin (the only session saving tool I have) doesn't remember tab ordering) |
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| 22:00.55 | canllaith | deitarion: kicker kicker restart should not do that. Something has crashed, and I suspect you'll need to restart the session. |
| 22:01.13 | deitarion | kicker kicker restart always seems to do that for me. |
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| 22:01.20 | deitarion | That's why I try to avoid using it. |
| 22:01.41 | canllaith | has never done it to me..... but I'm assuming something went wrong if you were restarting kicker in the first place |
| 22:01.46 | canllaith | hey physos |
| 22:01.47 | physos | hey canllaith :) |
| 22:01.52 | canllaith | How are you? :) |
| 22:02.02 | deitarion | canllaith: Trying to get the removable media applet to recognize my DVD drive again. |
| 22:02.14 | physos | totaly tired and it is still 29° here. |
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| 22:20.31 | tuxedup | hello, i am in the proces sof building kdesvn to update some documentation (just built kdebase) and I was wondering is kde 4.0 to include anything like katapult, or will this be something to do with plasma? |
| 22:21.07 | pinotree | plasma |
| 22:21.45 | tuxedup | pinetree: okie dokie |
| 22:21.51 | tuxedup | pinotree* |
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| 22:25.17 | Kebianizao | Hello |
| 22:25.34 | Kebianizao | how could I stop the kded service klaptopdaemon? |
| 22:25.59 | Kebianizao | is it possible to stop a kded service automatically started? |
| 22:26.12 | pinotree | kde control center -> kde components -> services |
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| 22:27.17 | Kebianizao | pinotree: I meant those that appear in the upper part of that dialog |
| 22:27.24 | Kebianizao | i.e. kwallet |
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| 22:35.58 | fribian | Hi all |
| 22:36.15 | fribian | Anyone using konqueror as a web browser? |
| 22:36.38 | straw | of course |
| 22:36.40 | fribian | I would like to know how to use the adblock setting in konqueror |
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| 22:37.06 | fribian | How, besides manually copy-pasting link addresses, can you add blockable elements? |
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| 22:37.36 | fribian | I'd like the firefox/iceweasel "right click --- block this" method ... |
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| 22:38.44 | Ze_M | thiago: can you install ksshagent and try it? |
| 22:39.25 | PhilRod | fribian: right-click -> block image |
| 22:39.30 | PhilRod | or "block images from ..." |
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| 22:41.28 | Ze_M | the dir ~kde/env is for what purpose? |
| 22:41.37 | PhilRod | startup scripts |
| 22:41.44 | PhilRod | they're sourced, rather than just run |
| 22:41.55 | Ze_M | are started before kde or after? |
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| 22:42.06 | hedos | Hello. How can I stop ALT+CTRL+K from killing KDE? |
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| 22:42.17 | PhilRod | Ze_M: before. If you want to know exactly when, check out the startkde script |
| 22:42.18 | Ze_M | PhilRod: they're sourced? |
| 22:42.21 | PhilRod | Ze_M: yes |
| 22:42.28 | Ze_M | what you mean by that? |
| 22:42.38 | PhilRod | hedos: control center -> regional & a11y -> keyboard shortcuts |
| 22:42.41 | pinotree | . script |
| 22:42.49 | hedos | Thanks PhilRod |
| 22:42.56 | PhilRod | Ze_M: any environment variables set in the scripts will apply to the whole kde session |
| 22:43.04 | PhilRod | hiya pinotree! |
| 22:43.13 | pinotree | hey Phil ;) |
| 22:43.41 | PhilRod | hedos: under "global shortcuts", change "log out" and/or "log out without confirmation" |
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| 22:45.13 | hedos | PhilRod, they're set to Alt+Ctrl+Delete and Alt+Ctrl+Shift+Delete, nothing is set to Alt+Ctrl+K |
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| 22:45.36 | hedos | PhilRod, except my switch keyboard layout which is set to Alt+Ctrl+K and from time to time just kill KDE instead of switching keyboard layout. |
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| 22:46.33 | zarath | Hi, I'm trying to work outa filter on KMail that will let me click on an icon on the toolbar so I can select whether I want the message to go safely into my "sent folder" or whether I want it to go to a 'tat folder', set to expire in a week or so. I'm struggling with the headers. What header can I use to identify a message as 'important stuff' or 'tat' before I send it? |
| 22:47.14 | PhilRod | hedos: so pressing Ctrl+alt+k doesn't *always* kill KDE? |
| 22:47.32 | hedos | PhilRod, nope. It happens rarely, actually. |
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| 22:49.10 | PhilRod | hedos: that's weird. Presumably it's making something crash then. The only thing I can think of would be to try with a new user, in case it's some config file problem, and try a more recent version of kde |
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| 22:49.37 | bust3d | what does K stand for in KDe |
| 22:49.55 | hedos | PhilRod, thinking about it, I think it only happened when typing a message under gmail in Opera. I'll verify. |
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| 22:50.53 | bust3d | what does K stand for in KDE |
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| 22:51.24 | zarath | bust3d, http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-faq&m=99670886427219&w=1 |
| 22:51.35 | bust3d | just tell me the word |
| 22:51.51 | PhilRod | wow, that really *is* the height of laziness |
| 22:52.11 | tuxedup | i am trying to built kdegames from svn and near the end of the cmakekde i get to following "kio (KSycoca): Trying to open ksycoca from /home/kde-devel/.kde4/cache-tuxedup/ksycoca4" and it seems to just hang there |
| 22:52.17 | zarath | bust3d, just look it up, you lazy bastard |
| 22:52.22 | bust3d | zarath, thats funny. why MDE, M Desktop Environment? |
| 22:52.29 | bust3d | why not* |
| 22:52.46 | bust3d | you gotta be more professional when making names |
| 22:52.57 | pinotree | bust3d: what's your problem with it? |
| 22:52.59 | PhilRod | tuxedup: best to ask in #kde4-devel |
| 22:53.00 | zarath | Sne dthem a letter. ;) |
| 22:53.03 | zarath | *Send |
| 22:53.17 | bust3d | it's a problem with most open source projects too |
| 22:53.23 | pinotree | ??? |
| 22:53.30 | zarath | Unprofessional names, yeah... |
| 22:53.31 | zarath | lol |
| 22:53.36 | bust3d | and UI |
| 22:53.38 | PhilRod | yay, let's add stupid blanket statements to rank laziness |
| 22:53.38 | bust3d | many times |
| 22:54.17 | bust3d | what is KDE's market share? |
| 22:54.22 | tuxedup | PhilRod: hmm weird i ran it again and it finnished this time, it didnt the last two times |
| 22:54.24 | pinotree | bust3d: again, what's your _REAL_ problem? |
| 22:54.34 | zarath | bust3d, in relation to what? |
| 22:54.40 | bust3d | i don't have a problem, son |
| 22:54.46 | zarath | bust3d, in relation to gnome? |
| 22:54.51 | bust3d | zarath, to other desktop environments |
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| 22:54.57 | bust3d | including everything |
| 22:55.02 | zarath | lol |
| 22:55.03 | bust3d | aqua, windows etc |
| 22:55.15 | PhilRod | cars, planes, household appliances |
| 22:55.19 | PhilRod | etc |
| 22:55.20 | zarath | bust3d, I would assume a small percentage, if you include windows. |
| 22:55.26 | bust3d | dumbass |
| 22:55.30 | pinotree | troll |
| 22:55.37 | pinotree | troll, go away! |
| 22:55.39 | PhilRod | yay, childish insults |
| 22:55.57 | bust3d | who's troll here, at least i don't make stupid jokes |
| 22:56.14 | zarath | bust3d, are you bored today? |
| 22:56.22 | pinotree | even worse, random complaining about foobar |
| 22:56.30 | bust3d | no i just want KDE to be more professional |
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| 22:56.37 | pinotree | so? |
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| 22:56.49 | bust3d | and when i start explaining people are usually oh go away troll |
| 22:56.51 | zarath | I'll tell you what, you send the a letter and get back to us when they send you a reply, ok? |
| 22:56.53 | canllaith | I'd just like you to go away. Will I get that? |
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| 22:56.55 | bust3d | or something like dat |
| 22:57.07 | pinotree | bust3d: that's not way of explaining stuff |
| 22:57.25 | zarath | bust3d, what desktop environment do you use? |
| 22:57.32 | bust3d | i use windows |
| 22:57.55 | canllaith | Do you have a KDE related problem you need support with? If not, I think you're in the wrong channel. |
| 22:58.03 | bust3d | oh really? |
| 22:58.08 | pinotree | then take it and don't compilan, if you don't ever use kde |
| 22:58.11 | zarath | bust3d, if there's stuff you don't like in kde the beauty of it is the community will be happy to invite you to work in the project and make it better |
| 22:58.11 | canllaith | Yes, really :) |
| 22:58.11 | bust3d | this is a channel about kde |
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| 22:58.24 | Cotton-Swab | can someone tab me please |
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| 22:58.27 | PhilRod | well, we can all see that you clearly have kde's best interests at heart, and well-reasoned and developed arguments on your side |
| 22:58.29 | PhilRod | Cotton-Swab: |
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| 22:58.32 | Cotton-Swab | thanks |
| 22:58.40 | canllaith | It's a channel for KDE support. Please go and troll somewhere else. |
| 22:58.43 | canllaith | hi PhilRod :) |
| 22:58.50 | PhilRod | hiya canllaith - how's you? |
| 22:58.54 | canllaith | Great, you? |
| 22:58.59 | bust3d | im not trolling, i wanna answer zarath |
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| 22:59.17 | Cotton-Swab | PhilRod: one more time please |
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| 22:59.24 | PhilRod | Cotton-Swab: |
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| 22:59.35 | Cotton-Swab | thanks again |
| 22:59.38 | zarath | bust3d, nevermind. I think we might be disrupting the chatroom. |
| 22:59.47 | canllaith | I just have no patience for that sort of thing anymore. |
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| 23:00.42 | PhilRod | canllaith: busy with RL - just got back from the US for a conference, and have to spend a few weeks revising for my first-year interview |
| 23:00.51 | PhilRod | so generally good, but not much time for kde, unfortunately |
| 23:01.05 | canllaith | :) |
| 23:01.18 | canllaith | I've decided to combine work & KDE, so I'm part of sysadmin@ now |
| 23:01.21 | canllaith | not that I have done much yet |
| 23:01.24 | canllaith | need to learn the ropes |
| 23:02.13 | PhilRod | ah cool, great to have more people behind sysadmin@ - spreading the load and all that :-) |
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| 23:10.51 | PhilRod | g'night |
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| 23:16.41 | bkudria | how can i stop kfind popping up when i hit the search key on my keyboard? xev reports this keys as 'XF86Search'. i'm on kubuntu fiesty |
| 23:17.27 | NamShubCMX | bkudria: kcontrol > Keyboards > Shortcuts |
| 23:18.09 | NamShubCMX | err, kcontrol > regional & accessibility > Kb shortcuts |
| 23:19.08 | bkudria | NamShubCMX: i looked there, i wasn't able to find anything |
| 23:20.50 | NamShubCMX | heh you're right |
| 23:21.33 | bkudria | NamShubCMX: any idea how to disable it? i wanna use that key for something else, but i'd rather not remap it |
| 23:21.42 | bkudria | at the xmodmap level, i mean |
| 23:22.59 | NamShubCMX | no clue, sorry |
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| 23:23.59 | bkudria | ok, thanks. i'll keep looking, i guess |
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| 23:56.27 | CPrgmSwR2 | Hi |
| 23:56.42 | CPrgmSwR2 | Does anyone what to be a tester for my kollagame? |
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| 23:58.07 | bkudria | CPrgmSwR2: depends. what is a kollagame? |
| 23:58.24 | CPrgmSwR2 | Its a game development kit for kde4 |
| 23:58.27 | CPrgmSwR2 | it requires kde4 |
| 23:58.28 | degel3030_ | if anyone wants a t-mobile mda just let me know, i wont spam on here but just shoot me a private message or whatever |
| 23:58.38 | degel3030_ | i can shoot you the ebay link or if you want to make me an offer |
| 23:58.40 | CPrgmSwR2 | what is a mda? |
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| 23:59.10 | bkudria | :) |
| 23:59.10 | degel3030_ | windows mobile |
| 23:59.31 | bkudria | CPrgmSwR2: yeah, i don't have kde4. try posting your software to kde-apps.org |
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