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| 00:33.41 | jobezone | i wonder, does anyone know of a KDE or QT app like PenguinTV and democracy player? |
| 00:35.45 | jobezone | looking at kde-apps.org, just found out about katchtv seems to be a good one |
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| 01:37.35 | sparr | ktorrent only uploads while I am downloading, and then only a little. what could cause that? |
| 01:38.06 | klobster | so if I wanted to build a quick and dirty gui for a script I wrote, what should I look into to do that? |
| 01:38.28 | Jucato | klobster: I guess try to look into Kommander |
| 01:39.47 | Jucato | sparr: um... you can't seed unless you have completed the whole download |
| 01:39.47 | troy | sparr: are you behind a firewall? |
| 01:39.47 | troy | Jucato: sure you can... |
| 01:39.48 | Jucato | that's not seeding though. that's just uploading |
| 01:39.48 | troy | Jucato: you reseed a chunk the moment you are done with that chunk... |
| 01:39.48 | sparr | Jucato: ok, and? |
| 01:39.48 | Jucato | yeah, but the usual use of the term seeding involves seeding the whole thing |
| 01:39.49 | sparr | troy: no. and other torrent programs work fine. |
| 01:39.49 | sparr | Jucato: good thing i didnt say seeding, eh? |
| 01:40.35 | troy | sparr: do you have any upload limits set in your config options? |
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| 01:40.55 | Jucato | hm.. so does it mean that you can't upload when you're finished downloading? |
| 01:41.03 | sparr | Jucato: yes. i NEVER seed |
| 01:41.23 | troy | Jucato: can't upload while downloading... |
| 01:41.25 | sparr | as soon as the download finishes, the uploading dies |
| 01:41.36 | sparr | ditto if i try to 'start seeding' by restarting a finished torrent |
| 01:41.46 | Jucato | sparr: is the Keep seeding after download is finished option enabled? |
| 01:42.02 | Jucato | troy: what do you mean can't upload while downloading? |
| 01:42.05 | sparr | most other clients i can upload 100MB while downloading 400MB... ktorrent uploads maybe 5MB in that same time, then completely stops |
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| 01:42.44 | sparr | i have max 4 upload slots, max 40 KB/s upload speed |
| 01:42.51 | troy | sparr: hrmm - I don't have that problem - I'd suggest you blow out your ktorrent settings and try it fresh... |
| 01:42.52 | Jucato | sparr: is the Keep seeding after download is finished option enabled? Settings -> Configure KTorrent -> Downloads near the bottom |
| 01:42.57 | sparr | max share ratio 1.50 (i disabled that, no help) |
| 01:43.06 | troy | Jucato: you misunderstand his problem man... |
| 01:43.11 | sparr | Jucato: yes. and it fails when i manually seed too. |
| 01:43.34 | Jucato | ok.. you handle it since I misunderstand :) |
| 01:43.44 | troy | Jucato: I'll try my best :) |
| 01:44.13 | troy | Jucato: I didn't mean leave - just saying that you're giving him an answer to a different problem :) |
| 01:44.20 | sparr | if im not downloading then ktorrent doesnt upload. period. |
| 01:44.24 | Jucato | troy: and btw, I'm just interpreting the "ktorrent only uploads while I am downloading," (meaning he can upload only while downloading) |
| 01:44.38 | sparr | Jucato: even that is slow |
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| 01:44.43 | Jucato | and the <Jucato> hm.. so does it mean that you can't upload when you're finished downloading? <sparr> Jucato: yes. i NEVER seed |
| 01:44.53 | Jucato | so I guess I misunderstood those 2 statements completely |
| 01:45.02 | sparr | i dont see what there is to interpret, im trying to be clear in describing the problem |
| 01:45.14 | sparr | while downloadig and not-seeding i can upload a little |
| 01:45.20 | Jucato | well, apparently I did. so... :) |
| 01:45.20 | sparr | when not downloading, i cant upload at all |
| 01:45.21 | troy | Jucato: what I think the problem is that there is normally a lot higher upload traffic when he's on torrents using other programs when compared to ktorrent... |
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| 01:45.51 | sparr | the 'cant upload at all while not downloading' part is the worst... |
| 01:45.51 | sparr | i WANT to seed |
| 01:45.51 | sparr | but i cant |
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| 01:46.00 | troy | sparr: I'm looking at the ktorrent settings... |
| 01:46.46 | sparr | yeah, ive posted in the forums |
| 01:46.53 | sparr | a few other people with the same problems, the devs disavow it |
| 01:47.31 | troy | sparr: what do you have for your settings like: max connections per torrent |
| 01:47.57 | sparr | 120 for that. then 400, 40, 0 |
| 01:49.12 | troy | sparr: do you live behind a router? |
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| 01:49.49 | sparr | yes |
| 01:49.58 | sparr | did i mention other clients work fine? |
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| 01:50.29 | troy | sparr: yeah - which could be that they are using uPnP to forward your ports - do you have that plugin enabled with ktorrent? |
| 01:51.18 | troy | sparr: the problem you have I also sometimes get, but only if my router ports are not forwarding... |
| 01:51.25 | sparr | i do not, and i am not. i have my port forwarding set up manually |
| 01:51.40 | sparr | ports 0-65535 forwarded to my desktop :) |
| 01:51.56 | troy | sparr: ahh, a DMZ of sorts :P |
| 01:52.22 | troy | on one tab there is a 'send tracker a custom IP or hostname' -- is that enabled? |
| 01:53.10 | troy | well, I use the term 'tab' loosely... I'm sure you'll find it in the settings... under general I believe... |
| 01:53.48 | sparr | that is turned off |
| 01:54.45 | troy | on my system, I had to change that setting to be the internet-facing ip address of my router - but I'm not sure that's the problem either... |
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| 01:55.48 | smileaf | troy: all projects located at: http://beta.smileaf.org/projects/ or I have them all on kde-apps.org |
| 01:55.51 | Tido|mobile | what's better? klaptop or kpowersave? |
| 01:56.08 | sparr | easy enough to try that troy |
| 01:56.32 | troy | smileaf: thanks :) I'll just tell people to search kde-apps.org since I suck at remembering urls :) |
| 01:56.51 | smileaf | troy: sounds good ;) |
| 01:56.54 | troy | smileaf: that's quite a way back you had to scroll to answer that question, no? |
| 01:57.22 | smileaf | troy: gotta love the search feature ;) |
| 01:58.21 | troy | smileaf: the problem was about starting beryl automatically, which is a little different than your stuff anyway, as it is more a matter of setting the KDEWM variable before running startkde... |
| 01:59.35 | troy | sparr: it might be that ktorrent is mistakenly reporting your ip as 192.168.x.x or whatever to the tracker |
| 01:59.45 | troy | sparr: that's the only reason I suggest it... |
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| 02:01.33 | jwallingford | what is a good dvd burning program? I would like one that will let me choose what on the dvd to burn |
| 02:01.43 | smileaf | k3b |
| 02:02.10 | jwallingford | it wont let me make any choices like what languages to burn or let me only burn the movie and not the previews |
| 02:02.19 | smileaf | tho I dunno what you mean exactly. |
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| 02:02.35 | smileaf | Oh.. so you wanna rip the DVD and burn that? |
| 02:03.02 | Tido|mobile | k9copy? |
| 02:03.26 | smileaf | just pulling out 1 language and doing a DVD is more work than its worth.. |
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| 02:04.50 | jwallingford | i dont know i was using DVDFab before and it was awsome. you just put in the dvd, chose what you wanted to burn from the dvd (movie, or what languages or what audio fromat, remove previews) and then i clicked burn and it burnt it to a dvd... im guessing it ripped what i told it to in a temp direcotry before burning it of course |
| 02:05.26 | jwallingford | maybe i can get that program to work on here with crossover |
| 02:07.20 | troy | jwallingford: I doubt you'll get burning capabilities through crossover... too much hardware access... |
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| 02:28.29 | mike__ | I download a KDM theme, but how can I install it. I untarred it, but there's no KSplash Theme file. |
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| 02:28.54 | troy | kdm and ksplash are two different things... |
| 02:28.54 | mike__ | My bad, wrong thing |
| 02:29.08 | mike__ | Yeah, just realised :\ |
| 02:32.14 | troy | no problem :) |
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| 02:32.41 | dansushi | net split |
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| 02:32.56 | troy | we lost brown I guess |
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| 02:32.57 | troy | now we have no op! let loose the havoc! :P |
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| 03:06.03 | god | can any one tell me what kdiff is |
| 03:06.29 | god | or kdiff3 rather |
| 03:06.30 | aseigo | god: it's an app that lets you view diff files |
| 03:06.42 | aseigo | god: which are files that contain the differences between two revisions of a file |
| 03:06.45 | aseigo | (ergo "diff"0 |
| 03:06.50 | Jucato | hi aseigo :) |
| 03:06.53 | aseigo | kdiff3 lets you compare 2-3 files |
| 03:06.54 | aseigo | Jucato: hey |
| 03:07.11 | god | ok when i go to merge from portage it tells me it could not start anyone know how i can fix that |
| 03:07.34 | Jucato | god: try asking in #gentoo or #gentoo-kde |
| 03:07.38 | god | it being kdiff3 |
| 03:09.32 | god | kthanks |
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| 03:35.21 | liba_peta_000c | hi :-) |
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| 03:42.20 | under | any good C++ IDE's besidesk develop? or qt? |
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| 03:44.08 | hacosta | vim |
| 03:44.30 | wolsni | wouldn't that be a better question for #c++ ? |
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| 03:45.13 | under | vim, hah |
| 03:45.22 | under | yea it would, sorry |
| 03:45.53 | hacosta | vim is the answer for all your text editing needs |
| 03:46.10 | hacosta | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:46.14 | wolsni | an IDE it's not though |
| 03:46.19 | smileaf | kwrite ;) |
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| 04:25.02 | Simeon_H | ok, let's reveal our darkest secrets > > |
| 04:25.05 | Simeon_H | I USE ANJUTA!!! |
| 04:25.14 | angasule | hello, I'm having some trouble with gvim and KDE's session saving, anyone happens to have experience with the subject? it appears on log out, my gvim session is not saved according to the parameters in .vimrc (but if I manually save session from within gvim, all works fine) |
| 04:28.47 | angasule | ah, nevermind |
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| 05:00.21 | Chani | huh. I didn't even know gvim could save sessions |
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| 05:13.28 | jzilla | kde is awesome. <3. |
| 05:13.45 | Simeon_H | yeah... my wallpaper is awesome too |
| 05:13.49 | Simeon_H | it's a morris minor 1000 |
| 05:13.52 | Simeon_H | :D |
| 05:14.26 | jzilla | whats a morris minor 1000 |
| 05:14.34 | Simeon_H | it's a car |
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| 05:15.19 | Simeon_H | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Minor#Minor_1000 |
| 05:17.21 | Simeon_H | HEY SOMEONE VANDALISED IT! |
| 05:18.25 | jzilla | that car makes me cry |
| 05:19.06 | Simeon_H | well... it would make me cry if it hit me... but that's about it |
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| 05:57.39 | psykidellic | hi...can somebody tell me where are the keyboard shortcuts for Konsole kept? I configured my Konsole to have Ctrl+T for new shell which i want to sync to the 3 machines that i use...which file should i just copy? |
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| 05:59.26 | Kiruwa | psykidellic: they seem to be in the konsolerc |
| 05:59.38 | Kiruwa | psykidellic: in .kde/share/config |
| 06:00.26 | psykidellic | okie |
| 06:00.27 | psykidellic | thanks |
| 06:00.30 | psykidellic | i will check it out |
| 06:00.53 | psykidellic | so if i can sync .kde file acorss multiple desktops...i should have the exact same thing in all ??? |
| 06:01.53 | psykidellic | Kiruwa, yup. Got it....thanks! |
| 06:01.54 | Kiruwa | possibly... you might run into other complications though (like paths to system resources that vary between systems) |
| 06:02.35 | psykidellic | Kiruwa, so how do people manage to get all their preferences like keyboard shortcuts in sync between multiple desktops? |
| 06:02.44 | psykidellic | i have 4 different desktop that i work upon |
| 06:02.56 | psykidellic | and setting up my preferred keyboard shortcut in all would be pain! |
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| 06:05.15 | psykidellic | Kiruwa, prolly i will ask in some linux group......i am sure that some linux guru has been able to automate it :) |
| 06:05.48 | Jucato | I think KDE global shortcuts would be in ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals not sure per app |
| 06:06.27 | psykidellic | .kde/share/config |
| 06:06.30 | psykidellic | has for per app |
| 06:06.44 | Jucato | most probably |
| 06:06.54 | psykidellic | i think if you can just copy them...it should work....i have not seen any hardcoded system path in them |
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| 06:06.58 | Jucato | (at least they're all in one place... don't ask about the toolbar configs...) |
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| 06:11.19 | Chani | omg... the youtube videos of kwin_composite are too cool |
| 06:11.53 | Jucato | :D |
| 06:11.55 | Jack3 | kwin composoite? |
| 06:11.56 | Chani | psykidellic: yes, you should be able to just copy stuff |
| 06:12.01 | Chani | Jack3: kde4 stuff |
| 06:12.03 | Jucato | Jack3: kwin 4 |
| 06:12.05 | Chani | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WBLlc6xCQ4&NR=1 |
| 06:12.16 | Jack3 | oooo |
| 06:12.18 | Jack3 | great |
| 06:12.24 | Jucato | better point to the blog post too :) |
| 06:12.33 | Kiruwa | psykidellic: my warning was more along the lines of "if something goes wrong, look for bad paths first" :P |
| 06:12.52 | psykidellic | Kiruwa, Chani thanks! |
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| 06:13.31 | Jucato | annma!!!!! |
| 06:13.31 | Chani | I use unison to sync a lot of my settings between laptop and desktop |
| 06:13.47 | Kiruwa | heya annma |
| 06:13.49 | annma | it hogs CPU a bit so I have to keep effects down a bit |
| 06:13.49 | Jucato | I'm planning on building KDE 4 later and mess around with programming stuff hahaha |
| 06:13.53 | Chani | annma: damn you! :) I want!!111! |
| 06:13.53 | annma | hi all! |
| 06:15.12 | annma | konsole does not want to start though, it's only a transparent rectangle |
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| 06:16.41 | Chani | oh dear |
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| 06:16.53 | Chani | konsole is the one kde4 app that has to run for me |
| 06:16.54 | Chani | even now |
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| 06:16.58 | benJIman | I can start konsole, but not kwin. |
| 06:17.08 | benJIman | I like konsole's new clickable links and find-as-you-type history |
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| 06:17.43 | Chani | I just like qt4's properchinese-font support |
| 06:18.20 | annma | benJIman: maybe I did something wrong with it |
| 06:18.26 | annma | what's up with your kwin? |
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| 06:19.21 | benJIman | dunno, it segfaults on start |
| 06:19.35 | annma | oh |
| 06:19.45 | annma | tried a clean .kde? |
| 06:20.07 | benJIman | yes |
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| 06:26.34 | Tomasu | hmm, what might cause kicker to crash as soon as its started? |
| 06:26.44 | Tomasu | moose@edgar:~$ kicker -> moose@edgar:~$ kicker: crashHandler called |
| 06:27.30 | annma | Tomasu: stalled konfig file |
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| 06:27.55 | Tomasu | as in .kde/share/config/kickerrc ? |
| 06:27.59 | annma | backup ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc |
| 06:28.04 | Tomasu | I already moved that out |
| 06:28.09 | Tomasu | still crashes |
| 06:28.14 | annma | did it just happen? |
| 06:28.16 | Tomasu | yup |
| 06:28.43 | annma | what did you do just before? |
| 06:29.23 | Tomasu | well the session was killed. |
| 06:29.32 | Tomasu | restarted, and it started crashing. |
| 06:29.56 | annma | session was killed? |
| 06:30.04 | annma | try another user |
| 06:30.05 | Tomasu | as in the desktop session. X+kde |
| 06:31.12 | annma | what about another user? |
| 06:31.15 | Tomasu | trying |
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| 06:34.38 | psykidellic | is it possible to configure the windows button to start the kmenu? |
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| 06:36.44 | Kiruwa | psykidellic: global keyboard shortcuts... "Popup Launch Menu" |
| 06:37.52 | Kiruwa | oh... but just the windows button? hmm... that might be hard |
| 06:39.34 | annma | psykidellic: what do you mean? |
| 06:39.40 | Jucato | psykidellic: why not just map the K Menu to Win+Space or Win+ anything |
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| 06:39.47 | annma | ah get the win button to start K? |
| 06:39.54 | Jucato | annma: on windows, just pressing the Win key alone pops up the Start menu |
| 06:39.55 | annma | yes |
| 06:40.02 | Jucato | slow fingers :/ |
| 06:40.03 | Jucato | :( |
| 06:40.17 | Jucato | actually, Mandriva does that by default :) |
| 06:40.23 | annma | does it? |
| 06:40.35 | annma | hmm I have KDE self |
| 06:40.58 | psykidellic | Jucato, how do i configure it on Kubuntu? |
| 06:41.14 | Jucato | annma: Mandriva's KDE :) |
| 06:41.34 | annma | psykidellic: KControl |
| 06:41.41 | Jucato | psykidellic: System Settings -> Keyboard -> Keyboard Shortcuts and look for "Popup Launch Menu" |
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| 06:43.04 | psykidellic | annma, Jucato thanks. i will take a look now |
| 06:43.34 | annma | win + + zoom my desktop |
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| 06:44.30 | Chani | hmm the only stuff ?I have mapped to win+foo is amarok controls |
| 06:44.30 | psykidellic | Jucato, very strange, Its just not taking only Win+ |
| 06:44.34 | psykidellic | i have to add something to that! |
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| 06:44.42 | Jucato | psykidellic: that's what I said |
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| 06:45.00 | Jucato | normally, the Win key is used as a modifier key, like Shift, Ctrl, and Alt |
| 06:45.06 | psykidellic | aaah okie |
| 06:45.07 | psykidellic | understood |
| 06:45.08 | Chani | psykidellic:that's because it'streating win like another alt or ctrl |
| 06:45.18 | Tomasu | annma: I'm not sure what was wrong now.. I was using NX to login initially, and then attempted a normal login (I really need a KVM :( ), and now even via NX it works fine. Thanks anyhow. |
| 06:45.20 | Chani | darn,. I type too slowly :) |
| 06:45.33 | psykidellic | Chani, :) |
| 06:46.43 | Tomasu | ugh, the nx client needs to set a proper class/window name for its window. |
| 06:46.52 | Tomasu | can't set any wm hints for it in kde without :( |
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| 06:47.03 | Tomasu | it also needs to honor xinerama info. :( |
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| 08:24.29 | Chani | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:27.14 | Chani | and I think I see memory leaks in the hello world plugin already... |
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| 08:33.17 | Chani | silly question: what's the exact name of the kde dev channel? |
| 08:33.26 | Chani | #kde-dev doesn't seem to be it |
| 08:34.17 | Chani | n/m. #kde-devel |
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| 08:36.21 | dc905 | anyone try plasma yet? :P |
| 08:36.56 | bluelightning | no, but I checked out those kwin videos on youtube... very cool stuff |
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| 08:49.42 | tanamo | klaptop_check is not showing any icons on the systray? what seems to be the problem? |
| 08:54.04 | Chani | tanamo: huh? explain your problem more. |
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| 08:56.49 | tanamo | Chani: after enabling "show battery monitor" in kcontrol, no icons being displayed in the systray, |
| 08:56.49 | tanamo | i already loaded ac and battery kernel modules |
| 08:57.18 | Chani | uh, anyone else having issues with webcvs? |
| 08:57.43 | Chani | tanamo: strange. that only happened to me once and a reboot fixed it |
| 08:58.30 | Chani | well, s/reboot/accidentally letting the battery run dry/ |
| 08:59.02 | tanamo | this is working before, i just upgraded kde to 3.5.7 and now it's not working |
| 08:59.37 | Chani | tanamo: so nothing happens when you click "start battery monitor"? |
| 08:59.48 | tanamo | Chani: yes |
| 09:00.39 | tanamo | but i can see the current battery status on kcontrol, but i want it on systray |
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| 09:01.57 | Chani | have you tried restarting kde, or rebooting? |
| 09:02.40 | tanamo | yes, i already did that |
| 09:02.46 | Chani | huh. |
| 09:03.28 | Chani | maybe if you start kcontrol from konsole it might give some debug output when you click "start battery monitor"? |
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| 09:04.51 | DawnLight | ah stop! i am getting spam email. what would you guys recommend? |
| 09:05.07 | tanamo | cant see any messages |
| 09:05.08 | annma | spamassassin, integrated in kmail |
| 09:05.46 | DawnLight | annma: okay, i have that in debian. will look into it! |
| 09:05.51 | DawnLight | thanks |
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| 09:12.38 | Chani | huh. that damned guidance-power-manager is still running on my system, even after I killed it, and it's got a zombie |
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| 09:21.52 | Chani | tanamo: I can't even figure out what process is giving me the klaptop battery monitor :/ |
| 09:21.58 | saeed | hi |
| 09:22.13 | saeed | anyone knows where the wallpapers are located? |
| 09:22.29 | saeed | I want to add these wallpapers |
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| 09:22.58 | saeed | but kcontrol does not have any option to install new wallpapers |
| 09:23.10 | annma | somewhere in $KDEDIR/share/pics saeed I think |
| 09:23.22 | Chani | saeed: try /usr/share/wallpapers/ |
| 09:23.28 | tanamo | Chani: what do you mean process? the name of the binary? klaptop_check? |
| 09:23.45 | Chani | but, what do you mean, add wallpapers? you can use any image on your computer as wallpaper |
| 09:24.03 | Chani | tanamo: yeah, there's nothing like that showing up in ps |
| 09:24.08 | annma | saeed: just right click on the picture and choose set as wall paper |
| 09:24.42 | saeed | annma: i tried already, it doesn't work |
| 09:25.48 | Chani | doesn't work? |
| 09:25.48 | saeed | where is $KDEDIR? |
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| 09:25.48 | Chani | saeed: what do you mean, it doesn't work? |
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| 09:26.34 | saeed | Chani: I tried it already, it doesn't work |
| 09:27.28 | saeed | Chani: it worked, thanks |
| 09:28.00 | Chani | saeed: right click, actions, set as background. works for me. |
| 09:29.07 | saeed | Chani: I just said it, THANKS, it worked |
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| 09:33.58 | spheard | hey has anyone had a problem with firefox on kde? when I click links it does all the loadin stuff but doesnt display the new page, Its driving me to distraction |
| 09:34.19 | annma | spheard: bad install probably |
| 09:34.30 | spheard | of firefox |
| 09:34.41 | annma | does it work in another desktop? |
| 09:34.42 | spheard | yeh, probly |
| 09:34.48 | annma | probably? |
| 09:35.08 | annma | firefox has nothing to do with kde so I don't think it works anywhere else |
| 09:35.19 | spheard | probably bad install, I did it with the standard apt-get |
| 09:36.55 | annma | ask your distro channel |
| 09:37.28 | spheard | unfortunatly my distro channell is ubuntu |
| 09:37.48 | annma | so? |
| 09:38.00 | annma | they don't support firefox? |
| 09:41.07 | spheard | annma: 1100 people in the room! |
| 09:42.13 | Chani | so? gentoo probably has more :) but it's a good place |
| 09:42.25 | Chani | hmm. |
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| 09:42.44 | Chani | I remember when my proxy settings were messed up I got behaviour like that, spheard |
| 09:43.00 | annma | spheard: ? |
| 09:43.07 | spheard | Chani: no proxy |
| 09:43.24 | Chani | k then, I blame ubuntu |
| 09:43.38 | spheard | ah, could be the router maybe, but all the other services are working and konqueror isnt having any problems |
| 09:43.40 | Chani | I'm using edgy and my FF works fine |
| 09:44.00 | spheard | 6.10? |
| 09:44.14 | Chani | yeah, I think so |
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| 09:44.36 | spheard | I get dcop notifications all the time, could it be anything to do with that? |
| 09:44.40 | Chani | anyways, I don't see what this has to do with kde |
| 09:45.12 | Chani | no, I don't think so. |
| 09:45.35 | spheard | thanks |
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| 09:59.34 | Andrew`` | Hi all.. can anyone tell me how to find out what version I am running? |
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| 09:59.54 | Jucato | Andrew``: version of KDE? Help menu -> About KDE |
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| 10:00.31 | DarkED | hey all... if i wanted to make KDE's panel look like the Vista taskbar or like OS X's finderbar, how would I go about doing that? |
| 10:00.50 | DarkED | is there an app i need to install or such? |
| 10:00.50 | Andrew`` | cool.. thanks Jucato |
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| 10:20.25 | Nazcafan | hi |
| 10:20.42 | Nazcafan | Are arrays supported in basket ? |
| 10:21.44 | Jucato | arrays? |
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| 10:33.39 | hacosta1 | is there a way to hide the buttons of the navigation panel? |
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| 10:34.57 | Jucato | hacosta1: which navigation panel? |
| 10:36.04 | hacosta1 | on konqueror |
| 10:36.15 | hacosta1 | the thing that pops up when you press f9 |
| 10:36.38 | hacosta1 | to the left (per default) it shows some configuration buttons |
| 10:36.52 | hacosta1 | i want to keep the sidebar but remove those buttons |
| 10:37.21 | Jucato | hm... |
| 10:37.52 | hacosta1 | doesn't look like it's possible, i remember doing it but maybe my memory fails |
| 10:38.29 | Jucato | it's possible |
| 10:38.52 | AJM | does settings/toolbars/(unselect) Main Toolbar do what you want? Or is that a bit too brutal... |
| 10:39.23 | Jucato | hacosta1: http://dot.kde.org/1141951094/1141955036/1141955507/konqsidebartng.rc |
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| 10:39.39 | Jucato | hacosta1: the [filemanagement] and the HideTabs lines |
| 10:39.47 | hacosta1 | wow Jucato thanks |
| 10:39.53 | hacosta1 | AJM: it was a bit too brutal |
| 10:40.04 | AJM | right, I see what you were speaking about now |
| 10:40.09 | paf1 | hi all, can anybody help me ?? with following: |
| 10:40.19 | hacosta1 | i was about to say that it's the first thing i found that kde wouldn't let me configure something |
| 10:40.31 | AJM | I've said that already this morning :-\ |
| 10:40.50 | AJM | possibly wrongly of course... |
| 10:40.50 | hacosta1 | what was it? |
| 10:41.06 | AJM | editing the main konqueror menu (to change the find files entry) |
| 10:41.28 | paf1 | I tried to run Beryl ( kubuntu, kde 3.5.6(7) ) - before this step X+KDE was starting immediately |
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| 10:41.49 | Jucato | AJM: which main konqueror menu? the menu bar? |
| 10:41.59 | AJM | yes, under tools |
| 10:42.01 | Jucato | paf1: try #ubuntu-effects or #beryl please |
| 10:42.44 | paf1 | but after BERYL experiment ( unsuccessfull ) X+KDE starting with loneg delaying ( about 3-5 minutes ), so I can't find what is waitinig for |
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| 10:42.59 | Jucato | AJM: menu entries are usually dynamically generated, but you can probably mess around in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc if you want |
| 10:43.33 | AJM | I couldn't for the life of me see where the find files entry was generated |
| 10:44.39 | Jucato | hm? |
| 10:45.29 | AJM | basically, I would like to use catfish instead of kfind |
| 10:46.12 | Jucato | ah well... that's a different case I guess |
| 10:46.14 | AJM | kfind is bringing the system to a crawl with just one user searching, I don't really want to think about what it would be like with several of them at it |
| 10:46.37 | Jucato | weird that kfind does that. does the plain find do that too? |
| 10:46.45 | AJM | pretty much, yes |
| 10:47.21 | Jucato | then kfind isn't the culprit I guess. find is |
| 10:47.28 | Jucato | and maybe the problem is deeper than the app/utility |
| 10:48.31 | AJM | well, find is the culprit (and the filesystem is remote which never helps). But really I would prefer to just use slocate results. Maybe there's a way to stop kfind using find? |
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| 10:48.49 | Jucato | er not unless you modify the source code I think |
| 10:48.56 | AJM | which I was going to do |
| 10:48.58 | Jucato | why not just use locate:/ |
| 10:49.08 | Jucato | or was that locate: |
| 10:49.29 | Jucato | wb Sho_ |
| 10:49.35 | AJM | personally, I do. But it's not really suitable for the main users of this system... |
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| 10:50.33 | Sho_ | moin Jucato |
| 10:51.41 | Nazcafan | Jucato: arrays like html arrays, or tables if you prefer |
| 10:52.00 | Jucato | ah I don't think basket has tables |
| 10:52.08 | Nazcafan | Jucato: too bad |
| 10:53.05 | Nazcafan | Basket seems much more powerfull than tomboy (I come from the gnome world) and I would have liked to swith to basket for I need a good notetaker |
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| 10:54.50 | Simeon_H | I have da best quit message ever ^_^ |
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| 10:55.27 | annma | <-- Simeon_H has left this channel. |
| 10:55.41 | annma | no message Simeon_H |
| 10:55.53 | Simeon_H | oh right |
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| 10:56.18 | padde | lol |
| 10:56.18 | annma | oh gosh |
| 10:56.20 | Simeon_H | that should do it ^_^ |
| 10:56.28 | Jucato | O.o |
| 10:56.46 | annma | maybe I should not have insisted |
| 10:58.16 | annma | yeah, /me blames herself |
| 10:58.58 | annma | 55 slides for my talk |
| 10:59.04 | Jucato | yay!!! |
| 10:59.12 | Jucato | gonna put those up in kde.org? :) |
| 10:59.20 | Jucato | I might start building KDE 4 tomorrow.. |
| 10:59.27 | Jucato | operative word being *might* lol |
| 10:59.39 | annma | they are in french |
| 10:59.56 | annma | they'll be on my LUG website |
| 11:00.06 | Jucato | aw... :( |
| 11:00.09 | annma | I'll post the link on my blog |
| 11:00.15 | Jucato | :) |
| 11:00.21 | annma | you know it all anyway Jucato |
| 11:00.31 | Jucato | heh I doubt it |
| 11:00.39 | Jucato | omg! it's 7pm already?! O.o |
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| 11:15.53 | morphir | like a small app or whatever really |
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| 11:43.11 | Mirrakor | has anyone heard of a bug affecting KMediaFactory crashing at 65%? |
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| 12:09.33 | gribouille | hi |
| 12:13.01 | gribouille | when I plug my external hard drive, a window pops up with different sugestions to handle the new device. however if the hard drive is already plugged when kde starts, no window pops up. what can I do ? |
| 12:14.15 | AJM | does it show up under media:/ in that case? |
| 12:15.20 | gribouille | AJM, what ? |
| 12:16.02 | annma | gribouille: in konqueror, type media:/ |
| 12:16.12 | AJM | if you start KDE with the drive already plugged in, when you go to media:/ in konqueror is your drive visible? |
| 12:17.26 | gribouille | yes |
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| 12:17.49 | AJM | does that solve your problem then? What do you want to happen? |
| 12:17.52 | gribouille | there is also an icon on the desktop :-) |
| 12:18.06 | basanta | i have 200 .desktop files in a folder I need to list the files which doesn't have .desktop extension how do i do it |
| 12:18.12 | gribouille | I hadn't seen it, since my desktop is completely cluttered |
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| 12:18.25 | AJM | gribouille: which is why I stopped using desktop icons ages ago :-) |
| 12:18.35 | gribouille | ok thanks for your help |
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| 12:22.11 | kolla | strange.. with 3.5.7 I dont get battery/power icon in the systray |
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| 12:31.05 | gribouille | is 3.5.7 available for fedora core 6 ? |
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| 12:33.41 | Jucato | gribouille: you will have to ask in #fedora or #fedora-kde |
| 12:33.49 | gribouille | ok thanks |
| 12:33.57 | Jucato | but Fedora 7 would probably have it |
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| 13:05.13 | sercik | good day to all people in this chan! |
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| 13:05.37 | sercik | someone can help me about a problem with kde shortcut not create by packages? |
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| 13:06.01 | Mek | that sounds like a distro-related problem... |
| 13:06.09 | wolsni | sercik: don't ask to ask, just ask :) |
| 13:06.25 | sercik | hi wolsni |
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| 13:06.50 | sercik | the problem is this: many applications when installed don't create a .desktop dile under /usr/share/applications |
| 13:07.17 | sercik | but create a file under /usr/share/menu |
| 13:07.28 | wolsni | sercik: this does sound like a packaging issue |
| 13:07.30 | sercik | it is possible to add shortcut to kde menu |
| 13:08.05 | wolsni | sercik: ask in #yourdistro |
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| 13:08.07 | sercik | is there some software that scan that folders (/usr/share/menu) and automatically create .desktop files= |
| 13:08.40 | sercik | i have tried but the creator of this distribuction don't want to help me! |
| 13:09.07 | sercik | i hope that here in kde someone can solve this problem.. |
| 13:09.07 | wolsni | sercik: and no one but the creator uses it? o_O |
| 13:09.17 | sercik | i use it :) |
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| 13:10.22 | sercik | he underestimate my problem! but this is a diffuse problem. there are many applications that don't create shortcut under kde menu |
| 13:10.25 | sercik | Jucato Hi! |
| 13:11.13 | wolsni | i imagine kappfinder is what you want |
| 13:11.32 | Jucato | 1) it's a packaging issue, which may or may not be the K/Ubuntu packager's fault (if upstream Debian messed it up too). 2) they're called K Menu entries, not shortcuts :) |
| 13:11.46 | logixoul | hi. I have the transKode script with latest stable amarok and libxine in Kubuntu Feisty. Trying to transfer an ogg track to a mp3 device. I get "track not playable in media device". Can anyone please help me fix that? |
| 13:11.53 | sercik | jucato don't break ... :) |
| 13:11.58 | sercik | i'm not good in english |
| 13:11.59 | logixoul | (asked in #kubuntu and #amarok too) |
| 13:12.17 | sercik | i hope that you can understand my words! |
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| 13:12.49 | sercik | but /usr/share/menu are entries for gnome menu? |
| 13:13.35 | logixoul | sercik: did you try wolsni's suggestion? |
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| 13:15.17 | sercik | yes but it can find few applications.. |
| 13:15.38 | sercik | i have installed very much applications that don't create kde menu entry |
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| 13:16.35 | Jucato | sercik: what app for example? |
| 13:16.40 | sercik | many! |
| 13:16.43 | logixoul | tough luck, then. try a distro that work for you I guess. |
| 13:16.45 | sercik | pingus for example |
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| 13:17.00 | logixoul | works* |
| 13:17.15 | Jucato | sercik: some apps really don't have K Menu entries (like 3D chess) or command line apps |
| 13:17.22 | Jucato | not sure what pingus is so.. |
| 13:17.28 | sercik | jucato i konw this |
| 13:17.30 | logixoul | a lemmings clone |
| 13:17.31 | wolsni | it's an OLD lemmings clone |
| 13:17.34 | sercik | the problem is another! |
| 13:17.45 | sercik | applications create a file in /usr/share/menu |
| 13:17.58 | sercik | and not a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications |
| 13:18.01 | logixoul | sercik: how did you install pingus? |
| 13:18.08 | sercik | sudo apt-get install pingus |
| 13:18.31 | Jucato | sercik: well like we have said, there's no use in asking about that in #kde because those are the distribution's problems |
| 13:18.44 | logixoul | yup, that's right. |
| 13:18.44 | fred87 | oooh, hal + kde3 is nice :) |
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| 13:19.41 | sercik | i hope that to kde users are interestaed to this problems! that can be a problem for a new linux users |
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| 13:19.53 | logixoul | sercik: is your distro Kubuntu? |
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| 13:20.36 | Jucato | sercik: the problem is that it's not KDE's fault/problem... |
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| 13:20.53 | Jucato | which basically means, you're crying in the wrong place :/ |
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| 13:21.28 | sercik | i kunderstand but kde mantainers could create an apps that scan /usr/share/menu directory and add entries on kde menu automatically |
| 13:21.33 | sercik | this is not only my problem |
| 13:21.40 | sercik | but all users |
| 13:21.44 | fred87 | wolsni: is there a new lemmings clone? |
| 13:21.46 | Jucato | er... there's "kappfinder" |
| 13:21.58 | sercik | kaapfinder don't work |
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| 13:22.06 | sercik | it only finds few applications |
| 13:22.11 | wolsni | nope, pingus just hadn't seen development in years when I first heard of it a fair while back |
| 13:22.23 | logixoul | sercik: I use Kubuntu and I don't have the problem, except for one game called antigravitaatorri. |
| 13:22.38 | sercik | have you installed the menu package? |
| 13:22.46 | logixoul | what menu package? |
| 13:23.04 | sercik | it creates a debian menu inside kde menu that contains all apps |
| 13:23.16 | sercik | more than kde menu |
| 13:23.22 | logixoul | what's the point in that? |
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| 13:23.30 | logixoul | I want all my apps in one place |
| 13:23.50 | orville | Oh wow. The power that be let me back in again. |
| 13:23.54 | sercik | logixoul: you can't becasue many applications don't crete entry in kde menu |
| 13:24.06 | sercik | try to install pingus and you'll see |
| 13:24.25 | logixoul | doh... |
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| 13:24.40 | wolsni | sercik: the correct answer to that would be to include a .desktop entry in the package rather than requiring ANOTHER package to provide a separate menu, i'd think |
| 13:25.04 | sercik | sure you are right |
| 13:25.27 | sercik | but there are may packages that have this problems is not one or two |
| 13:25.32 | sercik | is a diffuse problem |
| 13:25.52 | wolsni | either way, it's a problem with your distro's packaging and not something that KDE developers should have to deal with |
| 13:26.42 | sercik | ok wolsni sorry! i leave, goodbye |
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| 13:32.53 | morphir | how do I get the window buttons on the left (mac style)? |
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| 13:35.11 | Jucato | morphir: KControl -> Appearance & Themes -> Window Decoration -> Buttons tab |
| 13:35.15 | Jucato | drag and drop |
| 13:35.36 | mweijts | have a question about Kmenueditor in SuSE 10.2 |
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| 13:36.30 | mweijts | entires created with kmenuedit are not shown in menu |
| 13:37.01 | Jucato | mweijts: might want to ask in #suse or #opensuse-kde (or ask benJIman) |
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| 13:37.52 | mweijts | im gonna try opensuse-kde |
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| 13:38.25 | morphir | Jucato, ha! :) |
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| 13:38.36 | Jucato | morphir: easy, ain't it? :) |
| 13:38.39 | morphir | that is intuitive |
| 13:39.00 | morphir | but hard to get when you are used to configure things in textmode :P |
| 13:39.03 | mweijts | Thanx Jucato |
| 13:39.11 | Jucato | :) |
| 13:39.31 | morphir | Jucato, thank you ;) |
| 13:39.40 | Jucato | welcome :) |
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| 13:40.10 | morphir | Jucato, do you know how I can get shadow on window borders also? |
| 13:40.52 | Jucato | morphir: um.. not without implementing compositing and using something like kompmgr (composite manager that comes with KWin), Compiz, or Beryl |
| 13:42.09 | morphir | Jucato, compiz and beryl are overkill on my poor lappy |
| 13:42.09 | morphir | kompmgr might be the thing |
| 13:42.10 | wolsni | your x server still has to implement compositing |
| 13:42.13 | Jucato | kompmgr is a bit buggy :) |
| 13:42.23 | morphir | wolsni, I don't want transparency, but just shadows |
| 13:42.37 | Jucato | and your video card driver must have 3d acceleration |
| 13:42.44 | wolsni | morphir: your x server still has to implement compositing |
| 13:42.44 | Jucato | morphir: that's part of compositing |
| 13:44.19 | morphir | I'm running kompmgr now |
| 13:44.33 | morphir | but no shadows |
| 13:45.04 | Jucato | you don't "run" kompmgr. you enable it in KControl -> Desktop -> Window Behavior -> Translucency tab |
| 13:45.06 | morphir | funny thing.. I do got translucency though |
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| 14:04.31 | sercik | hi You have tols that missing kde entry is not a kde problems but a packaging issue! now i have installed fluxbox and i have started it and in fluxbox i can see more applications that in kde menu..So how do you explain this? |
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| 14:31.02 | Combatjuan | Hello everyone. I'm having all kinds of troubles with cmake on an Ubuntu Fiesty box. The #cmake don't seem to be around (or maybe don't care about newbs. (-8). |
| 14:32.06 | Combatjuan | I wanted to try the most basic little CMake project I could think of. It's a single main.cpp that includes a class (A.cpp and A.hpp) and prints some stuff. I wanted to use a base dir with the .hpps in ./include and the .cpps in ./src. |
| 14:33.16 | smileaf | Combatjuan: might in a #kde4-devel this is just a general help channel for kde not development =) |
| 14:33.31 | Combatjuan | smileaf: Exactly what I wanted. Thanks. |
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| 14:35.23 | futlib | hi, perhaps you can help me. I'm sick of using blender and I saw a very promising alternative to it, part of the kde project. I have a hard time finding that. does someone know which tool I mean? |
| 14:35.42 | futlib | (probably not part of the kde project, but it's name started with k and it was qt) |
| 14:35.56 | futlib | (blender is a 3d modelling tool) |
| 14:36.33 | AJM | http://www.k-3d.org/wiki/Main_Page ? |
| 14:37.15 | annma | I don't think a KDE alternative to Blendir exists |
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| 14:39.33 | futlib | AJM: yeah, that's exactly what I mean. can't believe I couldn't remember the name... |
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| 14:40.27 | AJM | I'm not sure what it has to do with KDE mind you |
| 14:41.55 | AJM | the heretical alternative to blender is ac3d ;-) |
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| 14:47.53 | futlib | AJM: not free so... but linux :D |
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| 14:48.04 | futlib | thanks so far, gotta work a little... :P |
| 14:49.17 | varaonaid | hi, i have kinda of an odd problem. kweather isn't showing the correct temperature from my local weather station. others are fine (and on my other computer, my local station is correct) but it's 70 degrees outside and it's been showing 32 degrees for the past two days. |
| 14:49.20 | varaonaid | any ideas? |
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| 14:52.07 | tek0_ | hi |
| 14:53.36 | tek0_ | I'm using dualhead with two seperate kdesktops (no xinerama), and when I maximize a window on the left display, which has a smaller resolution, the size of the window is appropriate to the other display |
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| 14:57.34 | Lacrymology | wtf, kdewallet saves the passwords in plain text? |
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| 14:57.41 | Lacrymology | am I the only one that thinks that this is retarded? |
| 14:58.51 | physos | It does not save them in plain text AFAIK. Except you explicitly tell it to expot an XML file wih them. |
| 14:59.37 | Lacrymology | what I mean is |
| 14:59.40 | Lacrymology | I open kopete |
| 14:59.44 | Lacrymology | it opens the wallet |
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| 14:59.55 | Lacrymology | it asks me for a password, fine this far |
| 15:00.00 | Lacrymology | but then it keeps open |
| 15:00.17 | Lacrymology | and there's a "show contents" button |
| 15:00.27 | Lacrymology | isn't this a little bit... unsafe? |
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| 15:01.10 | physos | So? You can set it to close the wallets after a time or after the application using it closed. It is a password wallet after all. |
| 15:01.23 | physos | And why should it hide your passwords from you? |
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| 15:03.47 | physos | You have to enter your wallet password and explicitly tell it to show plain text for every single password pair. |
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| 15:05.35 | physos | If you suspect people to walk over to you desktop and rummage in your programs, locking the whole desktop seem like a more pressing security measure. There are worse things they can do than your passwords. |
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| 15:07.51 | msn | Lacrymology: and if someone has hard access to your desktop all other security measures are of little use |
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| 15:09.21 | Lacrymology | msn not true. They can hardly do anything from my user account unless they have the account's password to sudo stuff. Everything of importance is saved in an svn server... with passwords |
| 15:09.29 | Lacrymology | plus |
| 15:09.46 | Lacrymology | X is quite unsafe itself |
| 15:10.36 | msn | Lacrymology: do you have password in boot loader? |
| 15:11.46 | Lacrymology | nope... |
| 15:12.08 | msn | boot init=/bin/bash and you are done |
| 15:12.25 | msn | you probably have your svn passwords saved in your profile |
| 15:12.31 | Lacrymology | no |
| 15:12.40 | Lacrymology | that I don't |
| 15:12.43 | msn | good for you |
| 15:13.01 | msn | but as you see init=/bin/bash compromises your system entirely |
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| 15:13.09 | Lacrymology | anyways, it's not a real concern for me, just in general |
| 15:13.15 | msn | unless you have boot password |
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| 15:14.49 | peppe | msn: ... and what about stealing the harddisk? :-P |
| 15:15.56 | msn | well that takes time to open cabinet nad take it out and then you leave trace of it |
| 15:16.27 | msn | if you use /init=/bin/bash it would take time to figure there was actually a brea k:P |
| 15:17.07 | msn | especially if you create a temporaroy shadow with null rool pass and overwrite it with the orgnal one once you are done :D |
| 15:17.15 | msn | s/rool/root/ |
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| 15:18.47 | YodaYoda | msn: Create an encrypted lvm partition with your system on. |
| 15:18.56 | caransac | Is there a way to have konqueror compatible with gmail or should I use firefox? |
| 15:19.30 | msn | YodaYoda: but once the person has root password he can su - <user> wont he get all the user files? |
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| 15:19.50 | msn | and whatever is on the encrypted filesystem |
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| 15:20.21 | YodaYoda | msn: You won't be able to get the root password though. init=/bin/bash will not work as unencrypting the filesystem will require a password. |
| 15:21.21 | Erunno | Hi all. I have the following problem with kmail: When trying to login onto my web.de account, the authentification doesn't work because of special characters in my password. It works with pure ASCII passwords though. |
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| 15:21.42 | Erunno | web.de is an email provider and I'm currently using KDE 3.5.7 |
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| 15:23.14 | Erunno | I'd appreciate any help if someone already encountered the problem or I can write a bug report if it's a new one. |
| 15:24.16 | annma | look at bug database |
| 15:24.30 | annma | provide an example of chars that don't work |
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| 15:27.45 | msn | YodaYoda: but the kernel would be able to read the fles without the passowrd? |
| 15:28.07 | msn | i havent used encyrpted filesystsma do cant say much |
| 15:31.11 | YodaYoda | msn: No. The filesystem needs to be unencrypted at boot. /boot needs to be on a separate partition, so you could change the files on there to keylog the password, I suppose. |
| 15:31.49 | YodaYoda | It would require the disk drive to be taken out to change them. |
| 15:32.02 | msn | or an external media |
| 15:32.24 | YodaYoda | Yeah, but not quite as easy as just init=/bin/bash. |
| 15:34.08 | msn | yup |
| 15:34.18 | msn | will remmeber that |
| 15:34.24 | msn | but well i have boot password |
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| 16:59.11 | DGMurdockII | hi |
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| 17:19.10 | en1gma | sup all |
| 17:19.23 | en1gma | why dont kde have auto-arrange for icons on desktop |
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| 17:19.27 | en1gma | really annoying |
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| 17:20.19 | wolsni | en1gma: it does |
| 17:20.42 | Jucato | Line up horizontally? Line up veritically? Align to grid? all there |
| 17:20.48 | en1gma | i dont see it |
| 17:20.59 | en1gma | that is not auto-arrange by any means |
| 17:21.16 | en1gma | move an icon out of the verticle line up and see if the rest move in order |
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| 17:24.44 | straw | en1gma: on what other desktop have you seen that? |
| 17:24.44 | en1gma | windows |
| 17:24.44 | wolsni | windows does it, for one |
| 17:24.44 | en1gma | and it is nice |
| 17:24.58 | straw | oh? hm, never noticed |
| 17:25.07 | wolsni | straw: it's turned off by default |
| 17:25.11 | wolsni | iirc |
| 17:26.01 | straw | oh. first thing i do is turn off all the shiny stuff |
| 17:26.16 | en1gma | well auto-arrange icons is really nice features |
| 17:26.56 | en1gma | like say you do a "icons sort by type then a icons sort verticle" then you move an icon out of the line the rest dont adjust order |
| 17:27.03 | en1gma | you just have an empty icon space |
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| 17:27.23 | straw | so file an rfe |
| 17:27.41 | wolsni | well, since kdesktop is dying i don't know how much good that would be :) |
| 17:28.01 | straw | heh, that's *right* |
| 17:28.08 | wolsni | i suppose plasma will provide the new desktop file view |
| 17:28.18 | en1gma | i like kde desktop but the taskbar could use a make over and auto-arrange icons would be a nice addition |
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| 17:28.40 | wolsni | en1gma: kde4 will be a makeover, among other things |
| 17:28.45 | wolsni | hold out until october :D |
| 17:29.02 | en1gma | i been waiting for kde 4 since over a year ago when there was talk about it being released then |
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| 17:29.28 | en1gma | kde is by far the best DE |
| 17:29.31 | fred87 | the taskbar is likely to be trashed |
| 17:29.32 | straw | svg everywhere is going to be fantastic :) |
| 17:29.42 | en1gma | fred87 what up my nig |
| 17:29.51 | en1gma | fred87 = slamd64 maintainer |
| 17:30.12 | fred87 | "nig" ? |
| 17:30.14 | straw | please don't use that terminology here |
| 17:30.15 | en1gma | :) |
| 17:30.29 | en1gma | what up my "BROTHA" |
| 17:30.43 | straw | good enough :) |
| 17:31.09 | en1gma | you know calling people nig isnt bad there is actually a country called niger |
| 17:31.29 | straw | ... |
| 17:31.48 | en1gma | that is where nig came from (nigerians) but fred87 prob isnt from there so its prob inapropiate |
| 17:31.59 | en1gma | any nigerians in here? ;) |
| 17:32.26 | en1gma | there is a program for (a laptop for every child) so it is possible |
| 17:32.46 | straw | fred87: 30% for a clock is rough |
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| 17:33.31 | en1gma | i seen something about that plasma before...trying to rem where |
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| 17:33.40 | c1|freaky | hi all. how to disable that bouncing cursor feedback thing? |
| 17:33.43 | fred87 | straw: it was very shiny though :) but needed 20fps |
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| 17:36.03 | wolsni | c1|freaky: go to kcontrol -> appearance and themes -> Launch Feedback |
| 17:36.20 | en1gma | is plasma = the powder decorations |
| 17:36.44 | wolsni | en1gma: plasma is the kde4 replacement for kicker + kdesktop |
| 17:37.13 | wolsni | it will embed 'plasmoids' similar to superkaramba widgets |
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| 17:37.26 | en1gma | nice |
| 17:37.34 | wolsni | in fact, i believe it will be able to load superkaramba widgets unmodified |
| 17:37.35 | en1gma | omg that will be sweet |
| 17:39.12 | en1gma | you know what is a really nice widget...not sure what its called but i do like it....in DSL you know how it embeds the system info stuff on the desktop |
| 17:39.12 | en1gma | i like that one...its kind of nice |
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| 17:39.12 | wolsni | en1gma: there are probably a hundred superkaramba themes to show system info stuff on the desktop |
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| 17:39.26 | c1|freaky | wolsni: i cant find launch feedback there? |
| 17:39.36 | wolsni | c1|freaky: kcontrol has a search bar, use it |
| 17:40.22 | en1gma | wolsni yea i dlaod em and use em already but super karamba has problems |
| 17:40.29 | en1gma | at least with the sid version |
| 17:40.30 | c1|freaky | if i type in launch it doesnt give anyresultys |
| 17:41.01 | wolsni | c1|freaky: typing in launch gives results for me, do you have a partial kdebase install? |
| 17:41.25 | en1gma | for some reason superkaramba looses the themes i dload if i switch themes....and when i goto "GET" new themes it still shows a green checkmark saying i have it when i dont |
| 17:41.46 | en1gma | and some superkaramba themes dont like beryl |
| 17:41.55 | en1gma | or beryl dont like them |
| 17:42.31 | wolsni | en1gma: how many bug reports have you put on bugs.kde.org about these issues? |
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| 17:42.55 | en1gma | well its not actually a bug is it |
| 17:43.20 | en1gma | the feature isnt implemented |
| 17:43.39 | Skrot- | The first one is a bug, the second one is a beryl issue methinks. And feature requests go the same place as bug-reports ;) |
| 17:43.39 | wolsni | RFE (requests for enhancement) still belong on the bug tracker |
| 17:43.53 | wolsni | or I suppose they're "wishes" for KDE |
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| 17:44.24 | en1gma | then i havent filled out any |
| 17:44.35 | en1gma | i just started using kde and linux again |
| 17:44.38 | c1|freaky | wolsni: dont think so |
| 17:44.40 | en1gma | still getting my feet wet |
| 17:44.59 | Skrot- | I'm guilty as well, I've experienced both those issues with superkaramba ;) |
| 17:45.13 | wolsni | en1gma: well, if these things really bug you they're more likely to be fixed if you post to bugs.kde.org instead of mentioning it here :D |
| 17:45.31 | c1|freaky | wolsni: nm i got it - itsd cause i have a german version ^^ |
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| 17:46.03 | wolsni | ah, great :) |
| 17:46.15 | c1|freaky | i found it ;D |
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| 17:59.26 | reagleBRKLN | I didn't used to have this problem, but I now notice I'm having trouble following links from FreeMind (an XML mindmap application) with URL of the form: |
| 17:59.26 | reagleBRKLN | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.26 | reagleBRKLN | Note the "&", that is the correct way to encode an ampersand in SGML/XML. Shouldn't Konqueror turn that into a "&"? (It's not.) |
| 17:59.57 | wolsni | reagleBRKLN: you mean in the URL? nope |
| 18:00.14 | reagleBRKLN | why not? who's responsibility is it then? |
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| 18:00.39 | wolsni | encoded characters in the URL should take the form of %hex, iirc |
| 18:00.49 | wolsni | %20 is a space, for example |
| 18:02.04 | reagleBRKLN | hmm... I'm not buying it, "&" is all over the place in HTML URLs |
| 18:02.05 | straw | hm, ff reads it as '&' |
| 18:02.29 | reagleBRKLN | i'm not aware of any req to use hex encodings only |
| 18:03.07 | reagleBRKLN | for example, the validator is fine with this WP page which uses "&" in URLs http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGood_faith |
| 18:03.26 | reagleBRKLN | that is, look at the source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_faith |
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| 18:03.58 | wolsni | reagleBRKLN: that doesn't mean anything; there's no reason & can't be in a URL without being interpreted |
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| 18:05.13 | reagleBRKLN | wolsni: not following. |
| 18:05.25 | reagleBRKLN | too many negatives |
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| 18:05.56 | wolsni | just because & is in a URL does not mean that the browser converts it to a single ampersand |
| 18:06.58 | reagleBRKLN | but it does when it is in the HTML page, but not in the address bar; we agree on that, yes? |
| 18:07.23 | wolsni | oh sure |
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| 18:08.12 | reagleBRKLN | ok, so now the question is, what responsibility does the browser address bar have to decode URLs pass to it? |
| 18:09.03 | reagleBRKLN | when they are passed by the KHTML part, it looks like they get decoded, but if they are passed by an external (XML) app, they will not be. |
| 18:09.32 | wolsni | the entities (%xxx; values) should be replaced by the interpreter |
| 18:09.50 | en1gma | where is the best place to get kde themes |
| 18:09.57 | en1gma | different icons mostly |
| 18:10.04 | straw | kde-look.org |
| 18:10.09 | en1gma | thanks |
| 18:10.12 | wolsni | ie, KHTML does it before you click on the link |
| 18:10.26 | reagleBRKLN | wolsni: can you point to a spec for that? |
| 18:10.40 | reagleBRKLN | then I can go to app developers and say "here, you aren't decoding" |
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| 18:11.37 | wolsni_ | grr, phone rang and kicked me off |
| 18:11.56 | reagleBRKLN | wolsni: can you point to a spec for that? |
| 18:11.58 | reagleBRKLN | then I can go to app developers and say "here, you aren't decoding" |
| 18:11.58 | wolsni | there's the RFC for URLs: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1738.txt |
| 18:12.09 | en1gma | http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=9 <<<kde4 themes? |
| 18:12.13 | reagleBRKLN | test: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith&oldid=2617791 |
| 18:12.13 | wolsni | it makes no mention of SGML-style entities |
| 18:12.37 | reagleBRKLN | KVirc doesn't do it, not in Klipper popups... I've yet to find a non-KHTML app that will do it... |
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| 18:16.23 | wolsni | well, klipper shouldn't be interpreting the clipboard data at all |
| 18:17.03 | wolsni | and I doubt kvirc is interpreting its text as html either |
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| 18:18.21 | EvilGuru | Hi |
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| 18:24.59 | en1gma | what does suse use for its menu system (i personally dont like it) but im about ready to dload something called "Kickoff-qt on Kubuntu 7.04 " and i want to make sure it dont mess up the kde menus |
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| 18:25.26 | en1gma | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kickoff-qt+on++Kubuntu+7.04?content=55864 |
| 18:25.35 | wolsni | i believe the suse menu is called kickoff |
| 18:26.27 | wolsni | there's also tastymenu http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Tasty+Menu?content=41866 |
| 18:27.46 | knoppix | yo |
| 18:28.31 | en1gma | thats kind of nice but i look the original style of kde menus (though it would be nice if there was a transparency setting for the menus like there is far the taskbar) |
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| 18:28.43 | kirun | I hardly ever use the menu, it's mostly alt+f2 minicli, alt+space katapult, or my keyboard buttons for konq and speedcrunch |
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| 18:28.58 | knoppix | whats the topic? |
| 18:29.25 | knoppix | whats up |
| 18:29.34 | en1gma | type /topic if you need to read it again |
| 18:29.36 | knoppix | yeah, I get down like a fool |
| 18:29.39 | wolsni | kirun: i agree |
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| 18:30.03 | knoppix | Its all about the open source |
| 18:30.17 | knoppix | anon-style |
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| 18:30.38 | knoppix | no secret spies |
| 18:30.49 | knoppix | lurking at every page transition |
| 18:31.07 | knoppix | Desperate for personal whatever |
| 18:31.43 | reagleBRKLN | wolsni: even if i give the address bar http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith%26oldid=2617791 it won't decode |
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| 18:31.44 | knoppix | They try to save money by anticipating what is next for "us" |
| 18:32.08 | knoppix | But they don't know whats up, do they? |
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| 18:32.31 | knoppix | Digitally Remastered Chickens are whats up |
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| 18:33.15 | _knoppix | o' |
| 18:33.29 | _knoppix | fuck off cool guy |
| 18:33.59 | EvilGuru | urg |
| 18:34.01 | kirun | _knoppix_: If you want to rant aimlessly, do it in #test |
| 18:34.13 | _knoppix_ | which room? |
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| 18:35.24 | PhilRod | sorry, woulda been quicker, but I was on the phone |
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| 18:35.57 | kirun | IRC should come with a Breathalyser :P |
| 18:36.03 | PhilRod | heh |
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| 18:38.50 | MinceR | it reminds me of remote attestation, so i find it an evil idea |
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| 18:39.27 | MinceR | or do you want to allow people to hack the breathalyser or the interface sw? :> |
| 18:40.18 | kirun | If somebody's in a state to hack the hardware, they could probably talk sense anyway |
| 18:41.30 | JamesB192 | Unless they're nonverbal or hack it ahead of time... |
| 18:41.48 | MinceR | or they download the hack |
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| 18:43.36 | kirun | I was thinking more along the lines of a friendly warning: "You appear to be drunk. Really connect to IRC" {yes} {no}, where {yes} is small and moves, {no} is big, friendly and static |
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| 19:00.21 | smileaf__ | what is it /msg nickserv ghost username password ? |
| 19:00.22 | wolsni | smileaf__: yep |
| 19:00.22 | fantomas | Hi. I've installed Beryl and using KDE. How to change windows manager to Beryl? |
| 19:00.32 | fantomas | I didn't find how to do so in Control Center |
| 19:00.52 | wolsni | fantomas: beryl's not a kde app, so that makes sense |
| 19:00.56 | wolsni | use beryl-manager |
| 19:01.12 | wolsni | or set the KDEWM environment variable to beryl |
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| 19:02.03 | smileaf__ | ... figures, by the time I find my password get the command typed in it automatically disconnects it for me and I end up wasting my time... |
| 19:02.16 | fantomas | wolsni: okay, so if I set KDEWM to path to beryl-manager, I'll get it instead of default KDE window manager? |
| 19:02.44 | wolsni | um, the name of the beryl executable should just be beryl |
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| 19:02.56 | fantomas | Ok, I'll try |
| 19:03.07 | wolsni | you need to make sure that whatever you set that variable to is a valid window manager, I think bad stuff will happen otherwise |
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| 19:04.48 | real | whats the package name for the wifi-wpa support on kde? |
| 19:05.27 | wolsni | real: KDE's not a linux distribution, ask in your distro channel |
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| 19:32.57 | Unit41 | how do I access klipper through shell using dcom ? |
| 19:33.16 | Unit41 | nm dcop |
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| 19:34.28 | aseigo | Unit41: start kdcop |
| 19:34.35 | aseigo | Unit41: in the search box at the top type "klipper" |
| 19:34.53 | aseigo | Unit41: find the method you are looking for.. then drag the entry in the tree to your script or a konsoel |
| 19:35.01 | aseigo | Unit41: it'll paste in the shell command you need |
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| 19:35.19 | aseigo | Unit41: pretty cool huh? =) |
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| 19:36.09 | Riis | can i tell Kwin to lock certain apps to a specific desktop (always), so whenever I launch say amarok it will always appear on desktop 4 |
| 19:36.20 | Unit41 | heck ya |
| 19:36.27 | SAS_Spidey01 | Easy as pie |
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| 19:36.45 | Riis | but how? :) |
| 19:37.39 | pinotree | Riis: kstart --help |
| 19:38.39 | Desintegr | Right Click on window titlebar |
| 19:38.44 | Desintegr | Window Behavior |
| 19:38.48 | Unit41 | kdcop hangs on me |
| 19:39.09 | Unit41 | aha |
| 19:39.11 | Unit41 | needs root |
| 19:39.50 | Unit41 | klipper is not showing up |
| 19:40.22 | Riis | Desintegr: but that's too intuitive to be true! :) |
| 19:40.41 | PhilRod | Unit41: kdcop should work as user. If you run it as root, it won't see your apps running as user |
| 19:41.41 | Desintegr | Riis: http://pix.nofrag.com/30/5e/aef0300ffd3077496cc2bd6266ef.jpeg |
| 19:41.50 | Unit41 | kit loads then hangs with a clock |
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| 19:46.03 | Riis | Desintegr: thanks, which field shoudl I fill in with what to only have it affect Amarok? |
| 19:46.13 | Desintegr | create a new entry |
| 19:46.21 | Desintegr | « detect » your Amarok window |
| 19:46.27 | Desintegr | then select Force Desktop 2 |
| 19:46.32 | Desintegr | it's quite intuive |
| 19:46.36 | Desintegr | give it a try |
| 19:46.45 | Desintegr | desktop 4 :) |
| 19:46.48 | Desintegr | not 2 |
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| 19:49.57 | FunnyMan3595 | Okay, how do I switch the file manager (and desktop) to using click-to-select instead of click-to-open? That's the one setting that I preferred the Windows configuration on... and also the only one I can't find. |
| 19:50.40 | benJIman | kcontrol -> peripherals -> mouse |
| 19:50.53 | benJIman | change to double-click |
| 19:51.21 | FunnyMan3595 | benJIman: Yeah, I just spotted that. Ye olde expert syndrome. |
| 19:51.47 | FunnyMan3595 | benJIman: Thanks, though. :) |
| 19:52.13 | Riis | damn this is neat |
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| 20:29.22 | CPrgmSwR2 | Hi, I am tring to learn how to make KDE apps |
| 20:31.38 | kirun | Are you looking for any particular advice? |
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| 20:35.16 | CPrgmSwR2 | I cann't seem to find any really good KDE tutorials |
| 20:35.59 | CPrgmSwR2 | The ones from KDE are not very helpful |
| 20:35.59 | wolsni | CPrgmSwR2: have you checked techbase.kde.org? |
| 20:36.04 | CPrgmSwR2 | Thats for kde4 |
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| 20:36.11 | cb400f | CPrgmSwR2: http://www.amazon.com/Open-Source-Game-Programming-Development/dp/1584504064 |
| 20:36.14 | CPrgmSwR2 | kde4 doesn't run on my computer |
| 20:36.34 | wolsni | http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/KDE3 |
| 20:36.35 | cb400f | .. remember someone said that book was great.. not just for games.. but for learning kde programming in general |
| 20:36.35 | CPrgmSwR2 | cb400f I can make a game just fine using SDL |
| 20:37.29 | wolsni | CPrgmSwR2: check that link |
| 20:38.28 | CPrgmSwR2 | Where do I start |
| 20:38.35 | cb400f | I have a rather large html-file (~3000 lines) .. whenever I do something more or less quanta freezes up and goes to max cpu for 15-20 secs.. been trying to disable all the "auto-<something>" settings.. but nothing seems to help.. any ideas? |
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| 20:39.01 | wolsni | CPrgmSwR2: i'm not a KDE developer, but I would start with the "KDE 3.0 Tutorial" |
| 20:39.04 | CPrgmSwR2 | okay the tutorial says to use the qt designer |
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| 20:39.12 | en1gmaa | sup all |
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| 20:39.17 | CPrgmSwR2 | Which I don't understand how to interface with qt |
| 20:39.27 | cb400f | CPrgmSwR2: http://www.clivecooper.co.uk/tutorial/index.html |
| 20:39.28 | CPrgmSwR2 | I mean with the kde program |
| 20:39.47 | Kiruwa | CPrgmSwR2: which build system are you using? |
| 20:40.01 | Kiruwa | auto* or cmake? |
| 20:40.35 | Kiruwa | oh... wait... KDE4 is not really in the "running" state on anyone's computer atm |
| 20:40.37 | en1gmaa | im using ksensors with lmsensors and i like how it displays both temps for core1 and core2 of my k8 amd64x2 (in the system tray) what i was wondering if there is a way to add temps for the motherboard and gpu to the system tray also |
| 20:41.05 | wolsni | en1gmaa: you can add monitors from ksysguard as panel applets |
| 20:41.20 | Kiruwa | just install qt4, kdelibs4, and use them to develop, using the xhost and DISPLAY tricks you can have kde4 programs pop up in your non-KDE4 session |
| 20:42.18 | CPrgmSwR2 | How do I get my dlg.ui to show up in my c++ program |
| 20:42.23 | wolsni | hm? that takes 'xhost and DISPLAY tricks' ? |
| 20:42.30 | en1gmaa | ok will try that |
| 20:42.31 | en1gmaa | thnx |
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| 20:44.51 | CPrgmSwR2 | I am so confused what is the purpose of KDevelop Designer if you can't use it in the program your developing |
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| 20:45.43 | wolsni | perhaps that will become clear once you have made it through that tutorial? |
| 20:46.11 | JamesB192 | en1gmaa: it is in ksensors configuration under sensor chip name-Sensors->Dock . |
| 20:46.28 | CPrgmSwR2 | I made it thorugh the tutorial |
| 20:46.33 | CPrgmSwR2 | nothing happened like the tutorial said |
| 20:46.47 | en1gmaa | JamesB192 ok checking that now cause i dont think i like sysguard |
| 20:46.50 | en1gmaa | its ugly :) |
| 20:47.17 | JamesB192 | It doesn't tell you which is which though... |
| 20:48.42 | en1gmaa | JamesB192 all i see in that catagory is k8temp sensors |
| 20:48.49 | en1gmaa | core0 and core1 |
| 20:48.56 | Kiruwa | CPrgmSwR2: I'm answering your questions in kde-devel (it's rather offtopic here) |
| 20:50.18 | en1gmaa | the temps for both cores i have docked in sys tray (looks good down there) what im wanting to do is add the mb temp and gpu temp down there too |
| 20:50.36 | en1gmaa | or run some superkaramba the,e that will display all that info |
| 20:50.44 | en1gmaa | so far i havent found an all in 1 app |
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| 21:03.13 | JamesB192 | en1gmaa: There should be an additional sensor chip driver, under which you will have fans, voltage sensors and thermal sensors. |
| 21:03.56 | JamesB192 | K8 temp is just the temp. sensor(s) for your processor. |
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| 21:08.22 | en1gmaa | ok checkin |
| 21:09.49 | en1gmaa | i have 3 main catagories. 01 = Global Settings. 02 = K8 Temp Sensors. 03 = System Information |
| 21:10.04 | en1gmaa | is there supposed to be another one |
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| 21:11.24 | Pantern | Why wont my scripts show in kdevelop? |
| 21:11.37 | JamesB192 | Yes. |
| 21:11.48 | SimAtWork | Pantern: please elaborate. |
| 21:11.48 | en1gmaa | yes? |
| 21:12.05 | en1gmaa | there is supposed to be another? |
| 21:12.07 | en1gmaa | shiat |
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| 21:14.21 | Pantern | I've made a .desktop and .sh file following an example. Just for testing I have tried to add KDEDIRS=/home/Me in bash. I've tried to put my files in both the Me folder and in a Me/data folder, but they don't show in Kdevelop.. Suggestions? |
| 21:14.53 | DexterF | is there something like audacity in qt? |
| 21:15.14 | JamesB192 | en1gmaa: I'm looking, which chipset do you have? |
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| 21:16.26 | Ze_M | aseigo_afk: can you give a hint on how can i do so that the search bar from kdeaddons doesnt erase what is entered? |
| 21:17.05 | en1gmaa | i think i2c but my actual motherboard = asus a8n32-sli-deluxe and im running kernel 2.6.21-1-amd64 |
| 21:17.20 | en1gmaa | im not sure if i2c is right module |
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| 21:19.57 | en1gmaa | in synaptic i see i have "libsensors3" installed....i just uninstalled everything else |
| 21:20.12 | pinotree | en1gmaa: and how does it relate to kde? |
| 21:20.24 | en1gmaa | (i was going to compile a new lmsensors but on their site they say it is included in the newer 2.6 kernels |
| 21:20.51 | en1gmaa | pinotree what kde app will run that "libsensors3" |
| 21:20.54 | en1gmaa | now its related |
| 21:21.29 | pinotree | en1gmaa: configuring lm-sensors is plain offtopic here, try a generic #linux-help channel please |
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| 21:21.49 | pinotree | en1gmaa: and don't try to fool me with stupid last-minute excuses, please |
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| 21:22.31 | en1gmaa | it you do read above (like you should have you would see we are dealing with ksensors |
| 21:22.48 | en1gmaa | [10:40] <wolsni> en1gmaa: you can add monitors from ksysguard as panel applets |
| 21:22.50 | en1gmaa | [10:45] <JamesB192> en1gmaa: it is in ksensors configuration under sensor chip name-Sensors->Dock . |
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| 21:23.21 | pinotree | en1gmaa: 99% any app that uses lm-sensors will display what lm-sensors offers |
| 21:23.40 | en1gmaa | pinotree someone is already helping me thank-you |
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| 21:28.46 | JamesB192 | en1gmaa: It looks like you have an nforce4. I can't find the NForce i2c/smbus driver in 2.6.17 though. |
| 21:28.58 | en1gmaa | hmm |
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| 21:29.26 | en1gmaa | lsmod reports i2c_core 28288 3 i2c_dev,nvidia,i2c_nforce2 |
| 21:30.09 | en1gmaa | i just did a dpkg-reconfigure libsensors3 also |
| 21:30.22 | en1gmaa | what kde app reads libsensors3 |
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| 21:38.44 | en1gmaa | JamesB192 found the problem why K-sensors wasnt displaying it....i need to reboot or restart the modules |
| 21:38.47 | en1gmaa | thanks |
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| 22:02.41 | tripatte | hi all |
| 22:03.01 | tripatte | is there a special channel for kde devs? |
| 22:03.09 | pinotree | #kde-devel |
| 22:03.27 | tripatte | thanks! |
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| 22:08.30 | AhmedSoliman | I've a problem , I'm hacking a KDE applet |
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| 22:08.56 | AhmedSoliman | when I compile and install, I add it to kicker, the compile again and install I find it the same |
| 22:09.08 | AhmedSoliman | the new one will run only when I restart KDE |
| 22:09.15 | AhmedSoliman | I want to flush the applet cache |
| 22:10.13 | OlliK | AhmedSoliman: Don't hack |
| 22:10.32 | JohnFlux_ | AhmedSoliman: there's a dcop signal to restart kicker |
| 22:10.40 | AhmedSoliman | how? |
| 22:10.56 | JohnFlux_ | AhmedSoliman: dcop kicker kicker restart |
| 22:11.04 | JohnFlux_ | I think that's it |
| 22:11.21 | AhmedSoliman | JohnFlux_: lemme try |
| 22:11.28 | JohnFlux_ | AhmedSoliman: i remember that you are supposed to use dcop to restart kicker to fix this, but I'm not sure if that's the right command |
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| 22:13.50 | AhmedSoliman | JohnFlux_: it worked :) |
| 22:13.52 | fred87 | "pkill kicker" ? :) |
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| 22:14.14 | JohnFlux_ | AhmedSoliman: that's good :-) |
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| 22:48.30 | vipernicus | what browser identification works with gmail for konq? |
| 22:49.01 | troy_ | firefox |
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| 22:50.05 | vipernicus | weird, i tried that, but it hangs up on Loading... |
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| 23:00.43 | amro | vipernicus: same here, I just get a blank screen |
| 23:01.53 | AhmedSoliman | do you know any replacement to KAudioPlayer Class, that I can stop the audio playback? |
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| 23:10.02 | AhmedSoliman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.00 | amro | AhmedSoliman: try #kde-devel |
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| 23:13.57 | troy | well, looks like osnews picked the kwin story up - which means it's now in google news, and so it spreads :) |
| 23:15.34 | troy | it'll probably be on the digg frontpage by tomorrow... usually takes about 24 hours :) |
| 23:15.51 | wolsni | cool :) |
| 23:15.52 | Thundercloud_ | The kwin story? |
| 23:15.55 | troy | anyone want to submit it to slashdot? |
| 23:16.00 | troy | *grins* |
| 23:17.40 | wolsni | Thundercloud_: on dot.kde.org |
| 23:17.59 | wolsni | http://dot.kde.org/1180541665/ |
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| 23:40.13 | t_ | Yo. I'm sure it didn't used to be like this (possibly 3.5.7 bug), but now all my panel buttons have solid backgrounds, and the panel itself has the default gradient which looks amazingly stupid. How can I make the panel button backgrounds transparent? |
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| 23:45.44 | t_ | See: http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~tdh29/sshot.png |
| 23:46.01 | t_ | It looks stupid, and there is no way to fix it, and I'm sure it wasn't always like that. |
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| 23:49.56 | troy | t_: I think you have to turn off the button backgrounds |
| 23:50.48 | troy | hrmm - the default should be transparent... |
| 23:51.17 | t_ | troy: There is no transparent option I tell ye! Only 'Default', 'Custom Colour' and then a list of really silly patterns. |
| 23:51.34 | troy | for me "Default" is transparent though... |
| 23:51.45 | t_ | Yeah it was for me too, but now it isn't, |
| 23:51.58 | t_ | troy: What is the relavent .kde/... file? |
| 23:52.12 | troy | dunno - probably something with kicker in the name though -- let me see,.... |
| 23:53.24 | troy | in .kde/share/config/kickerrc, there is a section called [button_tiles] that you can probably nuke |
| 23:54.13 | t_ | Hmmm |
| 23:54.16 | troy | or maybe under [buttons], I see EnableTileBackground=false |
| 23:54.20 | t_ | Yeah |
| 23:54.32 | t_ | I BackgroundHide to true |
| 23:54.36 | t_ | and killed kicker |
| 23:54.38 | t_ | now it works. |
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| 23:54.46 | troy | t_: cool stuff |
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| 23:55.00 | t_ | Except my windows don't know it is there anymore and don't maximise correctly. |
| 23:55.08 | t_ | Probably restart X |
| 23:55.28 | troy | t_: kwin --replace |
| 23:55.31 | troy | t_ should work |
| 23:56.01 | troy | (assuming you're using kwin and not beryl or somesuch... or you can just restart X :P) |
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| 23:57.47 | t_ | troy: Oh that setting I changed was for panel autohiding. Changed it back and everything is ok now. |
| 23:57.49 | t_ | Strange though. |
| 23:58.02 | troy | heh |
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