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| 00:01.40 | Xlice | ? |
| 00:01.50 | Xlice | same* |
| 00:02.09 | Xlice | (keyboard plz stop) |
| 00:02.19 | Xlice | shared* |
| 00:02.32 | Xlice | .check spelling |
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| 00:10.06 | Xlice | :) |
| 00:10.55 | litb | Xlice: you've a fast machine |
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| 00:11.14 | Xlice | workstation |
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| 00:11.52 | litb | a workstation is a synonym for pc? |
| 00:12.11 | Xlice | a workstation in 2007 is atm : |
| 00:12.29 | PhilRod | litb: yes |
| 00:12.55 | PhilRod | (a train station is where a train stops, a bus station is where a bug stops. On my desk I have a workstation...) |
| 00:12.56 | Xlice | quad core xeon , 10 gb memory,dual quadro gpu with quad dvi and multidisplay capabilities |
| 00:13.12 | litb | and a workstation is a machine. so, where is your point, Xlice? |
| 00:13.38 | Xlice | workstation = powerful pc for advanced scientifc computation |
| 00:13.58 | Xlice | pc = for desktop use that doesnt require let us face it a quad xeon |
| 00:14.01 | litb | lol, a bus station is where a bug stops ^^ |
| 00:14.11 | Xlice | lol |
| 00:14.43 | litb | he hacked too much on kopete it seems :) |
| 00:15.05 | Xlice | lol |
| 00:15.39 | Xlice | actually I get a mere pentium 4 2.8 overclocked ,with less than 512 Mo memory and a geforce 6 :) |
| 00:15.53 | Xlice | no workstation :) I was jokking |
| 00:16.15 | litb | then you did not reboot |
| 00:16.21 | Xlice | yup |
| 00:16.21 | litb | not that fast |
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| 00:16.35 | Xlice | there was a connection problem |
| 00:16.37 | Xlice | heyy |
| 00:16.44 | Xlice | not fast at all boy :) |
| 00:17.05 | litb | how u' know i'm a boy? |
| 00:17.16 | Xlice | dont know,just know :) |
| 00:17.28 | Xlice | (pretty sentence :)) |
| 00:17.46 | litb | like don't ask, just ask |
| 00:17.58 | Xlice | dont ask to ask,just ask |
| 00:18.00 | Xlice | :)$ |
| 00:18.07 | litb | oups |
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| 00:19.37 | Xlice | many mind-twisting setneces exist :) |
| 00:19.47 | Xlice | who came the first the eg or the chicken ? |
| 00:19.50 | Xlice | egg* |
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| 00:21.08 | Xlice | or if u know emacs ... |
| 00:21.23 | Xlice | A : please , please B, make sense |
| 00:21.32 | Xlice | B : C-x C-b ,sense made |
| 00:21.35 | Xlice | :) |
| 00:23.50 | litb | listen to the emacs doctor, he says alot of mind-crashing things |
| 00:23.56 | troy | Xlice: you are degrading the SNR in here :P |
| 00:24.17 | Xlice | :) |
| 00:24.17 | litb | what is snr supposed to mean? |
| 00:24.32 | troy | Signal to noise ratio... basically, how much of this channel is KDE conversation :) |
| 00:24.51 | litb | troy is right |
| 00:24.55 | Xlice | ohh it sounds like DSP thingy |
| 00:25.21 | troy | the usefulness of this channel is highly related to the SNR... if there's too much noise, the people capable of offering user assistance and so forth start to leave... |
| 00:25.23 | litb | remember, all things we say here is recorded. that's just a waste of disk-space |
| 00:25.49 | Xlice | ohhh |
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| 00:26.21 | Xlice | ppl are recording my types to hd and big brother will watch ... ohhh no |
| 00:26.38 | freeone3000 | Meh, it's raw text. |
| 00:26.48 | Xlice | hdd* |
| 00:26.49 | freeone3000 | You can just bz2cat it, shrink it down to a few hundred megs. |
| 00:27.11 | Xlice | big brother : you watch ,we watch |
| 00:27.12 | Xlice | :) |
| 00:27.13 | pinotree | Xlice: as troy said already, this is NOT usenet, where you can talk about anything anytime |
| 00:27.16 | litb | freeone3000: depends on the amount of chars... |
| 00:27.34 | Xlice | ok,pinotree ;you are right ,let me fix |
| 00:27.36 | pinotree | so, PLEASE, keep the topic and AVOID useless offtopic discussions, please |
| 00:27.37 | litb | and on the entropy of the characters |
| 00:27.49 | pinotree | you said that also more than three hours ago, dude |
| 00:28.17 | pinotree | you can redirect the creativity elsewhere |
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| 00:28.50 | litb | Xlice: goto #kde-dev . they are happy then |
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| 00:28.56 | apollo2011 | I am using KPilot with a Palm Tungsten T on Ubuntu Edgy, and I can't quite get it to sync properly with KOrganizer. The HotSync goes fine, but events from the Palm are copied to the PC's calendar but not vice versa. |
| 00:30.02 | pinotree | apollo2011: it seems a quite specific question... maybe it would be worth asking in #kpilot directly |
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| 00:31.25 | troy | apollo2011: there's also #kontact, a general channel for kde pim related conversation... there might be some folks there more familiar with kpilot (if they aren't all sleeping... many of them are europeans...) |
| 00:33.23 | troy | apollo2011: sometimes on those channels, you have to throw your question out there and just wait... kind of like fishing :) |
| 00:33.56 | troy | apollo2011: that works in channels like that one with very low chatter :) |
| 00:34.06 | apollo2011 | yep |
| 00:34.19 | Xlice | ahahaha |
| 00:34.26 | Xlice | fishing ,lol |
| 00:35.00 | Xlice | while u could directly mail to the team that does it directly |
| 00:35.08 | Xlice | drunk |
| 00:35.39 | Xlice | and not 12 , 10 |
| 00:35.42 | troy | kpilot is pretty much a one man show right now |
| 00:36.25 | Xlice | (ahahahaha) |
| 00:37.02 | Xlice | oh u meant the software or the channel ? |
| 00:37.12 | pinotree | troy: i'd say no |
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| 00:37.54 | Xlice | if it is the software then it is not funny :| |
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| 00:38.18 | troy | pinotree: well, there's all the opensync stuff that's getting pulled in now, so if you count them, then there's a whole team... |
| 00:38.55 | pinotree | troy: i did not speak about opensync - just about kpilot |
| 00:39.23 | troy | pinotree: maybe I should do some research on kpilot before I make assumptions :) /me wonders if they could use an article... :) |
| 00:39.46 | Xlice | not /me :) |
| 00:40.20 | Xlice | ok I do the same |
| 00:41.10 | troy | pinotree: I'll add it to my list :) |
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| 00:44.11 | ian__ | hello, having a small problem with kdesu |
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| 00:46.00 | ian__ | hard to describe, but the package manager adept runs a program called debconf inside it, but that program is not getting access to the X server (while adept obviously is) |
| 00:46.38 | ian__ | therefore debconf displays dialogs using ncurses in a hidden terminal, rather than popping up a QT dialog. |
| 00:47.03 | ian__ | this happens when running adept through kdesu |
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| 00:47.15 | ian__ | but does not happen when running adept through sudo |
| 00:47.42 | pinotree | ian__: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2671 |
| 00:47.59 | Xlice | ok |
| 00:48.00 | Xlice | bye all |
| 00:48.20 | Xlice | I choose 3 for tomorrow |
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| 00:48.28 | Xlice | Ktimer is the best cron app |
| 00:48.51 | ian__ | pinotree: thanks... |
| 00:49.07 | troy | ian__: this is a known issue :) I have it too - can't install java for instance :) |
| 00:49.07 | pinotree | i suppose this is the answer to your question |
| 00:49.44 | ian__ | troy: so to fix it i have to.... ? |
| 00:49.53 | troy | pinotree: that's the one :) |
| 00:49.57 | ian__ | the article mentions that they fixed adept for it, |
| 00:50.14 | troy | ian__: yeah, whether that fix is backported, I don't know -- #kubuntu might though... |
| 00:50.23 | ian__ | but does not mention anything useful to me. i am using the most recent adept unsable |
| 00:50.25 | troy | ian__: it would be fixed for fiesty for sure... |
| 00:50.31 | Jucato | it's not yet backported |
| 00:51.24 | ian__ | why would i need a backport if i'm running debian unstable? |
| 00:51.41 | troy | ian__: in that case, the fix hasn't made it into debian yet |
| 00:51.49 | troy | ian__: it is in the adept source tree though |
| 00:51.52 | Jucato | wow! someone outside Kubuntu is using Adept? |
| 00:51.56 | ian__ | sorry, i'm usually a gentoo guy and i guess i dont understand binary distros quite yet :) |
| 00:52.06 | troy | Jucato: yeah - I had just assumed it was kubuntu too :) |
| 00:52.19 | Jucato | won't mornfall be so proud :) |
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| 00:52.56 | troy | ian__: it'll be released with the next bug-fix version of adept then, and then unstable will probably get the packages... |
| 00:53.01 | ian__ | Jucato: i didnt know what else to use... i guess kpackage would work though... |
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| 00:53.16 | troy | Jucato: you can always use the command line too |
| 00:53.25 | troy | ^^ ian__ rather |
| 00:53.34 | troy | ian__: sudo apt-get install packagename |
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| 00:53.39 | Jucato | ian__: backports - when new versions of a package that is meant for an upcoming new release is compiled/built/packaged to work on an earlier/current release and made available, it's said to be "backported" |
| 00:53.41 | troy | once you know the packagename from adept... |
| 00:53.51 | ian__ | troy: i would, but this is amachine built for a non-linux user, and i dont want to throw the command line at them quite yet |
| 00:53.59 | Jucato | troy: who said I wasn't using the command line? :) |
| 00:54.22 | troy | Jucato: I accidentally directed that comment to you instead of ian__, whoops :) |
| 00:54.25 | Jucato | *cough* aptitude *cough* |
| 00:54.31 | Jucato | hehe :) |
| 00:54.59 | Jucato | ian__: but aside from those few quirks with license agreements, Adept is pretty usable... |
| 00:55.38 | Jucato | lets just hope that the changes made by the Kubuntu devs get into Adept really quick |
| 00:55.43 | Jucato | (upstream, I mean) |
| 00:56.04 | ian__ | Jucato: i agree; much more so than aptitude (returns *cough*) |
| 00:56.25 | Jucato | ian__: nah. aptitude rocks! lol! (just needs a proper GUI) |
| 00:56.50 | Jucato | aw.. |
| 00:56.58 | ian__ | troy: i've got a cough too |
| 00:56.59 | Jucato | spread the KDE virus :) |
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| 00:57.07 | ian__ | didnt know it was that widespread |
| 00:57.09 | Sho_ | Notably aptitude contains a minesweeper game, which speaks volumes about the priorities of its developers, I guess ;) |
| 00:57.15 | ian__ | :) |
| 00:57.18 | Jucato | lol |
| 00:57.19 | ian__ | lol |
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| 00:58.32 | mernil | Hello. I'm not able to get kwalletmanager in the tray. I have to kill kwallet and restart kwalletmanager manually |
| 00:58.49 | mernil | what gives? |
| 01:00.08 | Jucato | mernil: KCOntrol -> Security and Privacy -> KDE Wallet -> Show manager in system tray |
| 01:00.44 | mernil | Jucato: hm, i'll look at it, thanks! |
| 01:01.26 | mernil | nope, it's checked |
| 01:01.31 | troy | Jucato: just curious where your KDE involvement is? other than being the best user support around :) |
| 01:01.43 | Jucato | best? lol :) |
| 01:02.10 | Jucato | currently, still limited to user support... though I'm currently studying C++ (by myself) |
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| 01:03.00 | Jucato | although I did submit something to the user guide, which luckily made it to KDE 3.5.6 :D |
| 01:03.17 | Jucato | (and 2 patches to Konqueror... don't know what will happen to those...) |
| 01:03.26 | troy | mernil: do you have "Hide System Tray icon when last wallet closes" enabled? if so, try disabling it |
| 01:04.46 | ian__ | is there a good source of unified documentation about debian? much like gentoo's gentoo-wiki.com and gentoo-portage.com and gentoo.org/docs/ ? |
| 01:05.08 | Jucato | ian__: you'll have to ask in the Debian channels |
| 01:05.38 | Jucato | I think it does... but whether it's alive, that's another question :) |
| 01:05.49 | ian__ | ok, i just thought this cannel might have a more diverse gentoo/debian knowing field |
| 01:06.18 | troy | #debian-kde was one of the very first distro+kde channels to exist on this network - it predates many of kde's own channels... |
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| 01:07.37 | Jucato | ian__: well, we have diverse users... but not all of them would be here. and those that would be here might not know about Debian. and more general Debian stuff, Debian people would know better |
| 01:07.37 | mefisto | hi guys |
| 01:07.48 | mefisto | is there a crontab frontend in KDE ? |
| 01:07.54 | Jucato | kcron |
| 01:07.58 | mefisto | k |
| 01:08.01 | troy | ian__: there's a pretty diverse group of distros represented here, yeah - probably gentoo and kubuntu are best represented... kubuntu because there are a lot of users that need help, and gentoo because the thing never works like you want it to work :) |
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| 01:09.29 | troy | ian__: most distros have a distro+kde type channel... #kde-freebsd, #debian-kde, etc. (I know, I know, freebsd isn't a distro...) |
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| 01:09.42 | Sho_ | (there's also a #gentoo-kde) |
| 01:11.09 | Jucato | of course, there's no #ubuntu-kde :D |
| 01:11.33 | troy | Jucato: the SNR is so bad in #kubuntu, sometimes I think there should be :) |
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| 01:11.45 | Jucato | SNR? |
| 01:11.50 | Jucato | wb Sho_ :) |
| 01:11.55 | troy | signal-to-noise ratio |
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| 01:12.02 | Jucato | oh :) |
| 01:12.14 | troy | scroll inducing chatter :) |
| 01:12.35 | Jucato | heh that's my job... to keep the chatter to a minimum |
| 01:13.01 | Jucato | but most of the time, they know when to control themselves... and a little bit of freedom doesn't hurt :) |
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| 01:14.20 | troy | Jucato: anyway, if you're a KDE-writer in the making, we may have work for you :) Danny Allen and I are trying to start a monthly PDF magazine for KDE... |
| 01:14.26 | troy | just a bird in your ear :) |
| 01:14.42 | TnEt1 | Hi all...is there a site that explains kooldock? I have searched the web and I cannot find much info. |
| 01:14.52 | Jucato | troy: hm... writer in the making... that I'm not sure of :) |
| 01:15.06 | Jucato | I mean I can write... but not sure if that's what I want to focus on right now :P |
| 01:15.25 | troy | TnEt1: haven't even heard of it... but you can try kde-apps.org (I think I got that right) |
| 01:15.57 | Jucato | kooldock = one of those Mac OS X docker clones |
| 01:15.58 | TnEt1 | will do. Thanks! |
| 01:16.05 | Jucato | kxdocker, kiba-dock, kooldock |
| 01:16.08 | troy | Jucato: it'd be pretty user focused content, howtos, guide, tips and tricks and such, plus our existing content reformatted :) |
| 01:16.31 | Jucato | hm... sounds very interesting :) |
| 01:17.24 | Jucato | troy: I'll see what I can do. right now... my hell is one big mess, worse than BASIC spaghetti code... so I'm kinda still thinking about life and where I wanna take it :D |
| 01:18.08 | Sho_ | Last year I had my mind set on putting together a monthly screencast-based "KDE TV" show that would feature screencasts of tips and tricks as well as guides through KDE apps with a VoIP chat with its developers as audio track. Never quite found the time, but I still like the idea. |
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| 01:18.20 | Jucato | but as for howto's/guides/tips/etc, there's an abundance of them scattered around the net... too scattered... the (user) wiki has a couple of them |
| 01:18.34 | Jucato | ooh VoIP... |
| 01:19.00 | troy | Jucato: yeah, we'd be pulling some existing content, and also anything that we'd write, we'd be sure to also contibute to the appropriate places within KDE existing websites :) |
| 01:19.18 | troy | Sho_: kind of like KDE Radio's stuff, but video...? |
| 01:19.32 | Jucato | video:// :D |
| 01:20.29 | troy | KDE Radio is going to work with us on this mag - they're going to give us transcripts of everything so we can turn them into articles... |
| 01:20.41 | Jucato | troy: but right now, I'm a bit more interested in trying to help "organize" or do something about wiki.kde.org and the kde-forum.org, more of the unofficial user ends of KDE |
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| 01:21.08 | troy | Jucato: that'll make everyone very happy if they can be improved :) |
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| 01:21.48 | Jucato | troy: yeah. I'm kinda envisioning wiki.kde.org to be sort of the user counterpart of dnew.k.o (or is it techbase.kde.org now?) |
| 01:22.12 | Sho_ | troy: A little more user-focussed, I suppose :). The idea occured to me because I was doing some work in kwin, and used vnc2swf to make web-based recordings of some behavioral changes. One could invite KDE app developers to give tours through their apps via such a contraption, with the host chatting with the developer. |
| 01:23.14 | Sho_ | troy: Or a series of screencasts on efficient working with KOffice, screecast-based ... could be a platform for all kinds of things |
| 01:23.19 | troy | Sho_: that could be one of those great ideas that may be just a little too early for it's time :) |
| 01:23.46 | aseigo | Jucato: hey =) |
| 01:23.47 | Jucato | Sho_ is lightyears early of anyone's time :) |
| 01:23.54 | troy | Sho_: screenshot how-to's would be perfect for our magazine though, if you want to still do that sort of thing :) |
| 01:24.19 | troy | Sho_: we have a channel that can get them published... |
| 01:24.27 | Sho_ | troy: Well, the primary stumbling blocks are manpower and a host who isn't embarassing |
| 01:24.56 | troy | Sho_: heh, that could be a tough one :) |
| 01:24.57 | Sho_ | troy: Other than that, there have been successful screencast shows on a couple of the larger techy portal sites and such |
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| 01:26.29 | Sho_ | Probably, but we should leave the man some time to code, too ;) |
| 01:26.43 | Jucato | yeah.. too bad he doens't have a clone :( |
| 01:26.53 | Jucato | sudo cp aseigo aseigo_clone |
| 01:28.56 | MuJ | wonder when that'll happen.. now that we have quantum computers and stuff ;P |
| 01:29.36 | stoned | Muj in my language means buffalo |
| 01:29.38 | stoned | :D |
| 01:30.12 | MuJ | ooooh k then :) |
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| 01:31.19 | MuJ | and what language is that? |
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| 01:37.38 | stinger_au | yo |
| 01:37.49 | stinger_au | i just installed kde-core and my kcontrolcenter is empty ? |
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| 01:41.08 | Jucato | stinger_au: distro? |
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| 01:41.40 | ComPro | hey quick question...i'm running kubuntu and i want Synergy to run at startup. how do i set that up under kde, or just in general? thanks in advance. |
| 01:41.51 | Jucato | ~autostart |
| 01:42.01 | apt | To start a program or set an environment variable at KDE login, see: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2560273 |
| 01:42.05 | Jucato | ComPro: ^^^ |
| 01:42.19 | ComPro | thanks |
| 01:42.33 | tcossuto | hey all, quick question: I've got KDE and when ever I open firefox, it does not open 'maximized'. I have to click the 'maximize' button every time to make it open all the way. Is there any setting to change this? |
| 01:42.51 | stinger_au | Jucato, ubuntu |
| 01:43.25 | Jucato | stinger_au: Edgy? |
| 01:43.49 | stinger_au | yep |
| 01:44.05 | stinger_au | Jucato, yeah - i install it from a command line system though |
| 01:44.09 | stinger_au | i install kde-core |
| 01:44.25 | stinger_au | last time i did this i am pritty sure it just worked - maybe i left something out this time |
| 01:44.27 | stinger_au | not sure |
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| 01:44.32 | Jucato | make sure that you have kdebase installed. try installing kde-core again |
| 01:44.38 | stinger_au | all the times i have install kde the control center just works |
| 01:44.51 | stinger_au | Jucato, i thought kde-base was part of kde-core |
| 01:45.00 | ComPro | ok so if i do that autostart thing, will it start before or after i log in? ideally, i'd like it to start before a user logs in. |
| 01:45.02 | Jucato | http://jucato.org/kde/kde-core.html |
| 01:45.07 | Jucato | stinger_au: yes it is |
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| 01:45.23 | Jucato | ComPro: oh that only happens after logging in |
| 01:45.29 | pfein | how can I get Gnome apps (tomboy, say) to use Konqueror? |
| 01:45.39 | Jucato | ComPro: try #kubuntu for help on how to run startup scripts |
| 01:45.41 | stinger_au | Jucato, so i should all ready have kdebase installed |
| 01:45.48 | ComPro | alright, thanks, will do. |
| 01:46.00 | stinger_au | ComPro, i have kde start scripts |
| 01:46.12 | Jucato | stinger_au: run "sudo apt-get install kde-core" again just to check if you have left anything out |
| 01:46.44 | stinger_au | ComPro, stick your bash scripts in here /home/stinger/.kde/Autostart and make them executable by doing chmod u=+x |
| 01:46.44 | ComPro | stinger, how would i go about setting that up then? |
| 01:46.56 | Jucato | stinger_au: <ComPro> ok so if i do that autostart thing, will it start before or after i log in? ideally, i'd like it to start before a user logs in. |
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| 01:47.11 | Jucato | stinger_au: that would start the script *after* logging in |
| 01:47.18 | stinger_au | Jucato, says that there is nothing to install |
| 01:47.29 | Jucato | stinger_au: hm.. really weird... |
| 01:47.34 | stinger_au | Jucato, oh i thought thats what i wanted |
| 01:47.37 | chavo | synergy runs fine from the kde autostart folder |
| 01:47.41 | stinger_au | if you want start up on system |
| 01:47.43 | stinger_au | put it in |
| 01:48.00 | Jucato | ComPro: <chavo> synergy runs fine from the kde autostart folder |
| 01:48.10 | stinger_au | /etc/conf.d/local.start |
| 01:48.24 | ian__ | ComPro: you might check the kdmrc file.. i believe it allows you to start an app of your choice when it starts up |
| 01:48.37 | stinger_au | yeah this is werid dont know why i did not end up with a control center ? |
| 01:48.48 | stinger_au | last time i install kde through i think i did it with kdebase |
| 01:48.51 | stinger_au | this time i tried core |
| 01:49.07 | Jucato | stinger_au: kde-core installs kdelibs, kdebase, and arts |
| 01:49.30 | Jucato | it should work. dunno what happened on your end.. |
| 01:49.37 | ian__ | ComPro: that would be with the login managewr, so before any user logs in |
| 01:49.56 | stinger_au | Jucato, yeah |
| 01:50.09 | stinger_au | Jucato, also why do i have a lost and found section with heaps of stuff in it |
| 01:50.09 | ComPro | alright, thanks you guys. |
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| 01:50.36 | Jucato | stinger_au: are you sure you're on Edgy? because those problems you're describing are known issues in Feisty |
| 01:51.12 | stinger_au | Jucato, well i installed from the edgy 6.10 disk |
| 01:51.17 | stinger_au | i picked command line system |
| 01:51.23 | stinger_au | then updated my sources list |
| 01:51.31 | stinger_au | and did a kde-core install |
| 01:51.53 | Jucato | tcossuto: when you have the Firefox window open, press Alt+F3, Advanced -> Special Window Settings -> Check the "maximized horizontally" and "maximized vertically" options, set to "Force" and check the boxes to the right |
| 01:52.06 | Jucato | stinger_au: can you check your sources.list if they're still edgy? |
| 01:52.50 | tcossuto | jucato: alt+f3 dosn't do anything for me |
| 01:53.05 | Jucato | tcossuto: right-click on the menu title bar? |
| 01:53.16 | Jucato | tcossuto: I'm presuming you're using KWin as the window manager? |
| 01:53.17 | ian__ | tcossuto: try right cvlicking on the window bar |
| 01:53.28 | stinger_au | oh crap |
| 01:53.33 | stinger_au | its install kde 3.5.6 |
| 01:53.34 | tcossuto | right clicking the menu title bar works |
| 01:53.49 | stinger_au | Kubuntu.org bleeding edge KDE |
| 01:53.50 | stinger_au | Kubuntu.org provides the latest version of KDE , ready to run on your standard Ubuntu or Kubuntu install. |
| 01:53.55 | stinger_au | i have that source |
| 01:53.57 | tcossuto | I'm running slack 11, I don't know what window manager I'm running |
| 01:54.04 | Jucato | stinger_au: source-o-matic? |
| 01:54.06 | tcossuto | if I am using KWin, is there anything better? |
| 01:54.13 | Jucato | tcossuto: if it's standard KDE, it's KWin |
| 01:54.14 | stinger_au | Jucato, yeah |
| 01:54.20 | stinger_au | Jucato, lol i just ticked everything |
| 01:54.23 | Jucato | stinger_au: ah.. hm... |
| 01:54.50 | ian__ | tcossuto: i would try it with set initally rather than force, that way you can resize it later, |
| 01:55.01 | stinger_au | Jucato, well i guess the new kde is a little scrwed |
| 01:55.01 | ian__ | but it should always come up maximized that way |
| 01:55.17 | Jucato | tcossuto: oh yeah. try ian__'s suggestion. Set Initially rather than Force |
| 01:55.42 | tcossuto | thanks guys |
| 01:55.48 | Jucato | stinger_au: maybe. I'm not sure why that would happen though... theoretically, it *should* still work |
| 01:56.08 | Jucato | stinger_au: did source-o-matic give you the correct KDE 3.5.6 repository, for Edgy, and not for Feisty? |
| 01:56.27 | Jucato | stinger_au: make sure that source-o-matic didn't give you feisty repos |
| 01:56.27 | stinger_au | Jucato, not sure i better check |
| 01:57.00 | stinger_au | deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main |
| 01:57.01 | stinger_au | deb-src http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main |
| 01:57.05 | ian__ | stinger_au: i had that problem on debian, but it fixed itself when i installed the rest of kde... |
| 01:57.17 | stinger_au | ian__, oh lol |
| 01:57.25 | stinger_au | ian__, what do you mean by the rest of kde ? |
| 01:57.34 | stinger_au | ian__, did you have this big lost and found thing too ? |
| 01:57.36 | Jucato | stinger_au: looks good. maybe immediately installing 3.5.6 w/o 3.5.5 doesn't work |
| 01:57.39 | ian__ | ian__: thats not kubuntu though, so i'm not sure if it was the same issue |
| 01:57.51 | stinger_au | yeah |
| 01:57.53 | Jucato | might be a different issue |
| 01:57.56 | Jucato | anyway, gotta run |
| 01:58.00 | stinger_au | k |
| 01:58.43 | ian__ | stinger_au: no, but my k menu was pretty much empty |
| 01:59.06 | ian__ | stinger_au: i did an apt-get install kde |
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| 01:59.22 | ian__ | brought in everything, i use a good portion of it anyway |
| 02:00.03 | ian__ | stinger_au: this is my first few days using debian though, so you might not want to listen to me. i'm much better at gentoo |
| 02:00.06 | ian__ | :) |
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| 02:03.15 | Jucato | if you install kde-core, your KMenu will really be pretty much empty |
| 02:03.26 | Jucato | "that's not a bug, that's a feature" |
| 02:04.15 | ian__ | Jucato: guess i have never installed just kde-core before |
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| 02:05.01 | Jucato | kde-core installs only the most basic KDE functionality: kdelibs, kdebase (very few apps here), and arts |
| 02:05.30 | stinger_au | yeah |
| 02:05.32 | stinger_au | thats what i want |
| 02:05.36 | stinger_au | i have install kde-core b4 |
| 02:05.38 | stinger_au | on gentoo |
| 02:05.40 | Jucato | you'll only have konqueror, kate, kcontrol, ksysguard, kinfocenter, etc. in your k menu |
| 02:05.42 | stinger_au | then i install what i want |
| 02:05.50 | stinger_au | yeah |
| 02:05.56 | shadok | kmplayer doesn't display the cursor representing the position in the track of an audio file, anybody have the same problem ? |
| 02:05.57 | stinger_au | but this time around i got this lost and found menu |
| 02:06.20 | stinger_au | and kcontrol is empty |
| 02:07.57 | stinger_au | i can't even get rid of kde now |
| 02:08.03 | stinger_au | aptitude remove kde |
| 02:08.15 | stinger_au | well thats anther thing i have learned lol |
| 02:08.20 | stinger_au | i may just have to format my server again |
| 02:08.28 | ian__ | shadok: i never got kmplayer to really work the way i want.... kaffeine can be a frontend for mplayer or xine though |
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| 02:08.55 | ian__ | stinger_au: why wont aptitude remove kde work? |
| 02:08.57 | seren | anyone know why www.kde-look.org is down? |
| 02:09.04 | stinger_au | ian__, no idea |
| 02:09.08 | shadok | strange i have no other problem with it (excepet its poor support of subtitles but it's not a bug) |
| 02:09.16 | seren | i know its not hosted by kde or the project but maybe someone knows |
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| 02:10.15 | ian__ | seren: best i can do is verify if it's down here too |
| 02:10.36 | ian__ | stinger_au: what error does it give you? |
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| 02:12.51 | ian__ | seren: and it is in fact down here too |
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| 02:19.02 | ian__ | stinger_au: try it with apt-get it might give more verbose output |
| 02:19.56 | stinger_au | meh i have all ready formated the server |
| 02:19.57 | stinger_au | lol |
| 02:20.02 | stinger_au | not going to piss around with it |
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| 02:40.33 | stinger_au | yo |
| 02:40.53 | stinger_au | i just install supertuxkart with emerge under gentoo but it was not added to the kde menu ? |
| 02:40.57 | stinger_au | any ideas why |
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| 02:47.23 | aseigo | stinger_au: didn't come with a .desktop file perhaps? |
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| 03:11.14 | Renze | ah well... dreams are free ;) |
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| 03:15.18 | qupada | you can have chunderous applause |
| 03:15.29 | Renze | only if I don't have to clean it up |
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| 03:15.58 | Renze | you can keep the carrots |
| 03:16.08 | Shirakawasuna | Renze: oh noes, the store doesn't work on the last wii update (for me) |
| 03:16.40 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: I get the European updates, not the American ones |
| 03:16.47 | Renze | version 2.1E |
| 03:16.51 | Renze | E for Europe |
| 03:16.59 | Shirakawasuna | Renze: you can change the settings for that? |
| 03:17.10 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: I don't think so |
| 03:17.21 | Shirakawasuna | ah |
| 03:17.24 | Shirakawasuna | how do you know the version? |
| 03:17.39 | Renze | it says so in the top right corner of the configure screens |
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| 03:19.07 | Renze | update available... I'll let you know if my store works when it is done |
| 03:20.31 | Renze | store still seems to work |
| 03:20.49 | Renze | of course I don't have any wii points... |
| 03:21.32 | Renze | ooo... new channel available for free |
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| 03:22.01 | Renze | the everybody votes channel? |
| 03:22.03 | Renze | weird |
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| 03:24.32 | Shirakawasuna | yeah |
| 03:24.39 | Shirakawasuna | mine hasn't appeared yet, so I'm confused ;) |
| 03:24.50 | Renze | I'm trying it out now |
| 03:25.01 | Shirakawasuna | do you know of a key combo for resetting the wii? Or is the on-console button the better way to go? |
| 03:25.23 | Shirakawasuna | stupid thing gets stuck at the store channel, although it's still animating and I can see the cursor |
| 03:28.01 | Shirakawasuna | maybe I need to reset it somehow ;) |
| 03:29.37 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: power cord |
| 03:29.51 | Renze | that's what I did last time it got stuck at the store |
| 03:31.24 | Shirakawasuna | well, holding down power for 5 secs did it |
| 03:31.34 | Renze | on the wiimote, or on the console? |
| 03:31.36 | Shirakawasuna | now I get an error in the wii store |
| 03:31.43 | Shirakawasuna | but that's better than having to hard reset it |
| 03:31.45 | Shirakawasuna | on the console |
| 03:31.56 | Shirakawasuna | 2.1E, eh? I have 2.0U :) |
| 03:32.06 | Renze | the voting channel seems quite pointless, so I guess a lot of people will enjoy it ;) |
| 03:32.11 | Renze | yes, you have the US version |
| 03:32.18 | Renze | I have the European version |
| 03:32.20 | Shirakawasuna | I win |
| 03:32.30 | Renze | no, I do... higher number wins :P |
| 03:32.32 | Shirakawasuna | (yes, it's a contest) |
| 03:32.37 | Shirakawasuna | My letter is lower :) |
| 03:32.56 | Renze | in order of vowels, it is last :P |
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| 03:33.13 | Shirakawasuna | mine doesn't follow the crowd |
| 03:33.15 | Shirakawasuna | it's a rebel |
| 03:33.25 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: try setting your router to channel 1 or 11 instead of 6 ‒ made a huge difference for me, much less interference |
| 03:33.45 | Shirakawasuna | I think it was the update...let's see... |
| 03:33.52 | Shirakawasuna | yay |
| 03:34.24 | Shirakawasuna | downloading |
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| 03:34.43 | Crissi | hello |
| 03:34.56 | Crissi | kde-apps.org seems to be down.... whats happend? |
| 03:35.12 | Shirakawasuna | I don't think this channel has anything to do w/ kde-apps.org.... |
| 03:35.32 | Shirakawasuna | it's down for me, too |
| 03:36.12 | Shirakawasuna | what a silly channel |
| 03:42.21 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: yep, it is silly... so people will love it :D |
| 03:44.02 | Shirakawasuna | I'm playing another game of Zelda...not going to miss a single treasure chest in the dungeons this time :) |
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| 04:00.26 | brendan__ | Hello, can anyone recommend a good tutorial on how to create qt/kde widget styles? |
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| 04:02.55 | Renze | brendan__: there is probably one somewhere on trolltech's site |
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| 04:16.05 | rr72 | what r hotkeys for switching desktops? |
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| 04:19.46 | Renze | rr72: kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard shortcuts |
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| 04:25.51 | rr72 | Renze~ i cpmpletely forgot about that |
| 04:25.52 | rr72 | lol |
| 04:25.56 | rr72 | i mean the question i asked you |
| 04:25.58 | rr72 | night all |
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| 04:54.53 | linuxfanstar | hey |
| 04:55.07 | linuxfanstar | do we have an approximate release date for vr. 4 of kde |
| 04:55.12 | Renze | nope |
| 04:55.19 | Renze | nothing has been decided yet |
| 04:55.32 | linuxfanstar | sigh, i keep looking forward to it |
| 04:55.37 | Renze | we all are |
| 04:55.38 | linuxfanstar | months now actually |
| 04:55.42 | linuxfanstar | lol |
| 04:55.45 | Renze | it's not a small project |
| 04:55.58 | linuxfanstar | do you know how many version they are making between now and then |
| 04:56.01 | Renze | you can speed it up by contributing ;) |
| 04:56.05 | linuxfanstar | ya, i am just impatient |
| 04:56.19 | linuxfanstar | well i dont know any qt |
| 04:56.24 | Renze | linuxfanstar: there will only be maintenance and minor feature enhancements in the 3.5.x branch |
| 04:56.35 | Renze | most of the real work is going into 4.0 |
| 04:56.46 | linuxfanstar | ok that is good |
| 04:56.49 | Renze | but both will coexist, since 4.0 is a major change |
| 04:57.13 | linuxfanstar | maybe i will beta test |
| 04:57.25 | Renze | no decisions for beta releases yet either |
| 04:57.50 | linuxfanstar | what? arent people using a beta of it that runs seperately from 3.5 |
| 04:58.03 | linuxfanstar | or maybe alpha |
| 04:58.04 | Renze | no, they are using developer snapshots, not betas |
| 04:58.26 | linuxfanstar | ah |
| 04:58.53 | linuxfanstar | thanks for the info |
| 04:59.06 | Renze | no problem |
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| 05:49.56 | CGamesPlay | I'm using 3.5.5 and can't find the khotkeys control center module. Where is it? |
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| 05:50.35 | corevette | is there a good ubuntu/debian repository for kde apps? like ktorrent is out of date |
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| 05:55.14 | corevette | can anyone help? |
| 05:55.24 | Jucato | CGamesPlay: KControl -> Regional & Accessibility |
| 05:55.51 | CGamesPlay | Jucato: oi, I would have never though |
| 05:55.53 | CGamesPlay | >_< |
| 05:55.54 | CGamesPlay | thanks! |
| 05:56.16 | Jucato | corevette: it's not good to mix repositories. if you want to install the latest that isn't provided by your distro, you either install a .deb packaged for your distro (if one is available) or compile from source. |
| 05:56.24 | Jucato | CGamesPlay: sure, no prob :) |
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| 06:01.08 | Jucato | Renze: still in a bad mood :( |
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| 06:01.25 | Renze | yep... this one has lasted 24 years so far |
| 06:01.38 | corevette | where do i find the: php executable path |
| 06:01.46 | Jucato | Renze: aw... :( |
| 06:02.15 | Renze | php is nothing to do with kde |
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| 06:20.39 | XVampireX | kde-apps and kde-look down? |
| 06:21.33 | Jucato | looks like it |
| 06:22.20 | XVampireX | Doesn't beryl have any nice emerald theme for mac os x? |
| 06:23.15 | XVampireX | I wanted to go to kde-look for that |
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| 06:25.37 | noodles12 | i just switched from gnome to kde to see what it's like, and the font in kde seems to be less crisp or, like pixelated?. Are my settings wrong or is this how it normally looks? |
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| 06:26.54 | shadok_ | noodles12: make sure you have the last version of freetype and check the fonts tab in kcontrol, there is an antialiasing option |
| 06:30.39 | noodles12 | shadok_: which version of freetype should i have? |
| 06:30.51 | shadok_ | 2.3.1 |
| 06:31.18 | shadok_ | there is a clear change in font appearence between this one and 2.2.x series |
| 06:31.50 | shadok_ | but anyway you should have clear fonts with any version |
| 06:32.10 | noodles12 | ( i am running xgl) if that changes anything |
| 06:32.19 | shadok_ | i guess not |
| 06:32.43 | shadok_ | check in kcontrol/fonts |
| 06:33.42 | shadok_ | try using a slight antialiasing |
| 06:34.55 | noodles12 | yea, slight looks better |
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| 06:35.25 | shadok_ | better or normal ? :) |
| 06:35.30 | noodles12 | normal lol |
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| 06:36.01 | noodles12 | thanks a lot. i never would've figured that out. It was on medium before |
| 06:40.03 | XVampireX | Can I get oxygen from somewhere? |
| 06:40.20 | XVampireX | for kde3 |
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| 06:44.25 | shadok | you can get the svg pack on the svn of kde4 and use a script to build png icons |
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| 06:51.12 | noodles12 | *thunderous applause* |
| 06:51.32 | qupada | and again with the projectile vomit |
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| 06:52.40 | monzie | hi all |
| 06:52.41 | Jucato | yay he's in a better mood ;0 |
| 06:52.44 | Jucato | :) |
| 06:52.52 | Renze | nope, I'm not |
| 06:53.06 | Jucato | well a lot better than yesterday or earlier :) |
| 06:53.11 | Renze | just wait |
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| 06:53.20 | Jucato | I won't :) |
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| 06:55.37 | Jucato | oh! yeah! I forgot what day it is |
| 06:55.50 | qupada | Renze: you should get your membership card in 2-3 weeks |
| 06:55.56 | Jucato | that explains the mood :) |
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| 06:57.58 | shadok | noodles12: sorry i didn't see, happy for you :) |
| 06:58.10 | noodles12 | shadok: thanks np. |
| 06:58.16 | shadok | :) |
| 06:58.41 | noodles12 | shadok: is there an anti-aliasing option for everything? everything seems a little... blurry? |
| 07:00.10 | shadok | try this, i didn't because it's ok here (maybe thanks to my resolution/fonts size ratio) http://swik.net/Gentoo/Planet+Gentoo/Michal+Januszewski:+Freetype+adventures/xbta |
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| 07:01.41 | otimocin | hi all..is here an kdemail adminß |
| 07:01.55 | otimocin | ? |
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| 07:05.12 | thiago | otimocin: there is one, but he cannot be found for the moment |
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| 07:06.27 | otimocin | thiago: thx .. maybe you could help me ..could you please ping mail.kdemail.net? I think the server is down |
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| 07:59.16 | graft | argh! they ruined ktorrent! |
| 07:59.21 | graft | where do i complain? |
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| 08:26.04 | cilkay | Hello. The KDE panel (kicker) crashes on KDE startup. This just started happening when I upgraded FC6. The version of KDE in question is 3.5.6-0.3.fc6 Any ideas what I can do to work around this problem? |
| 08:26.31 | monzie | hi |
| 08:26.45 | monzie | kontact always hangs when switching to the summary view |
| 08:26.54 | monzie | and takes up 99% of cpu usage |
| 08:27.09 | monzie | the other parts of kontact (mail, calendar etc) work just fine |
| 08:27.59 | monzie | any solutions for this? |
| 08:28.12 | monzie | i did not find a kontact dir in ~/.kde/share/apps |
| 08:28.21 | monzie | how do i delete all it's settings? |
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| 09:03.57 | pankey | hey is there a way to change the 'stepping' of the volume up and down via media keys? as in like not 10% but 5% increments? |
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| 09:14.02 | Frappuccino | how do i make an app to confirm "Docking to sys tray" again after i marked the "Don't show again"..? |
| 09:14.47 | pankey | like by check the system tray? |
| 09:14.49 | pankey | checking^ |
| 09:15.40 | Frappuccino | and? how? |
| 09:16.26 | pankey | wait its NOT in the systray and u want it thhere now? |
| 09:16.55 | Frappuccino | i just want it to confirm before dockin it.. |
| 09:17.50 | pankey | oh wait i just read what u wrote nvm |
| 09:17.54 | pankey | wooooooo time for sleep |
| 09:18.47 | Frappuccino | ya, sweet dreams.. |
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| 09:29.25 | malgar | hello! how to set a black screen when the session is blocked (kde 3.5, mepis 6.0) |
| 09:29.29 | malgar | ? |
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| 09:30.09 | Renze | set the screensaver to blank screen? |
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| 09:32.25 | malgar | uhm, ok, it works, but before there was another screensaver but it didn't work after blocking the session.. the background is transparent |
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| 09:50.01 | n3storm | hi |
| 09:50.11 | n3storm | I cannot reach www.kde-apps.org |
| 09:50.11 | Kristho | Hi! |
| 09:50.21 | Renze | n3storm: that's because it is down |
| 09:50.23 | n3storm | is it something to be noticed here? |
| 09:50.27 | n3storm | Renze: ok :) |
| 09:50.32 | n3storm | just to let you know |
| 09:50.38 | Renze | we already know ;) |
| 09:50.39 | Kristho | n3storm: Me neither ;) And I can't go to kde-look :( |
| 09:50.50 | n3storm | Renze: what's the problem |
| 09:51.02 | n3storm | if you don't mind? |
| 09:51.04 | Renze | sometimes servers fall down... it's a fact of life |
| 09:51.17 | n3storm | yeah, tell me :) |
| 09:51.19 | Renze | I don't know exactly what happened... I'm not an admin on that server |
| 09:51.22 | n3storm | ok, thanks |
| 09:52.09 | Renze | all the kde-*.org sites are on the same server, so they are all unreachable (and the gnome-*.org sites too, but they don't matter so much) :D |
| 09:52.37 | Kristho | ;) |
| 09:54.06 | Kristho | If I dual-boot between 2 distros (Let's say Mepis and PCLOS), and have ONE /home/<username> folder (They share it). Can I then make settings that are different on the two distros? (Sorry my really baaad english ;) ) |
| 09:55.21 | Renze | you could use the $KDEHOME env variable to have different .kde directories for each distro |
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| 09:56.39 | Kristho | Renze: Hmm... How? |
| 09:57.02 | Renze | that part isn't my problem ;) |
| 09:57.34 | Renze | say you boot in mepis, you could set KDEHOME=.kde-mepis or something |
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| 09:57.54 | Renze | how to set them depends on the distros, and I am unfamiliar with both of those listed |
| 09:58.57 | Kristho | Cool :) I'll ask when PCLOS 0.94 comes out :) |
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| 10:03.23 | LinuxCart | Hello |
| 10:03.44 | LinuxCart | anyone succesful seeing fluendo applet streams with konqui? |
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| 10:05.53 | rikur | I need a gmail invitation ._. |
| 10:06.41 | Renze | rikur: ask a friend with gmail |
| 10:07.02 | rikur | they are all afk. oh well. |
| 10:07.09 | LinuxCart | rikur: now gmail is open |
| 10:07.14 | LinuxCart | I've heard |
| 10:07.35 | LinuxCart | http://mail.google.com/mail/signup |
| 10:07.36 | rikur | I heard too |
| 10:07.58 | rikur | maybe there's a bug in the page.. Tried to login with my google account and got a message saying it's invite only. |
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| 10:15.53 | LinuxCart | rikur: I could send you one if you want |
| 10:16.16 | LinuxCart | regarding my previous question about fluendo applet, those who are interested, please se this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140263 |
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| 10:18.05 | Renze | LinuxCart: it plays here |
| 10:18.12 | Renze | in konqueror, kde 3.5.6 |
| 10:18.43 | plutonas | hello, i lost the "top panel" where the menu-bar (Session-Edit-View-Settings-Help etc) appeared. How do i get it back? |
| 10:20.12 | MinceR | r4wr |
| 10:21.29 | oGanso | plutonas: try crtl+m |
| 10:21.56 | plutonas | oGanso: no it doesnt work |
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| 10:22.10 | plutonas | i didnt loose it now, it was yesterday when i changed some settings |
| 10:22.28 | plutonas | but i cant find out what setting is responsible for that |
| 10:22.45 | oGanso | :( |
| 10:22.58 | oGanso | thats the default shortcut |
| 10:23.06 | oGanso | at least for me.. :) |
| 10:23.19 | Renze | plutonas: right click on desktop, configure desktop, behaviour page |
| 10:23.36 | Renze | under "Menu Bar at Top of Screen" |
| 10:24.06 | plutonas | and current applications menu-bar? |
| 10:24.37 | plutonas | that's it' Thx Renze !!! |
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| 10:24.43 | Renze | no problem |
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| 10:31.17 | tosmo | is kdelook down? |
| 10:31.20 | Renze | yes |
| 10:31.35 | tosmo | why? |
| 10:31.35 | muuhDBX | why ? |
| 10:31.57 | Renze | ask one of the admins, but this isn't the first time... probably a server outage |
| 10:32.09 | qupada | damnit, where is the BOFH excuse card when you need it |
| 10:32.18 | tosmo | ? |
| 10:32.42 | muuhDBX | is that site running gentoo ? |
| 10:33.26 | Renze | no |
| 10:33.37 | Renze | what are you, a moron? |
| 10:33.56 | pankey | huh |
| 10:34.01 | pankey | whats gentoo have to do with anything |
| 10:34.27 | muuhDBX | i though ive seen some here its as running gentoo |
| 10:34.37 | Renze | it's not |
| 10:34.47 | muuhDBX | how do you know ? |
| 10:35.04 | Renze | because it has been around longer than gentoo |
| 10:35.10 | muuhDBX | LOL |
| 10:35.23 | muuhDBX | ok you win |
| 10:35.32 | Renze | muuhDBX: every time you open your mouth, something stupid comes out. might I suggest you shut up and learn. |
| 10:35.40 | muuhDBX | LOL |
| 10:36.02 | muuhDBX | the only stupid person here is you |
| 10:36.11 | muuhDBX | and mabey your friends |
| 10:36.12 | pankey | ... |
| 10:37.12 | muuhDBX | i guess jed site is so old that it must be running BSD |
| 10:37.26 | qupada | netcraft.com has some info: http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.kde-look.org |
| 10:37.39 | qupada | but not much, just "linux" and "apache" |
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| 10:38.27 | Xlice | hi all |
| 10:38.38 | pankey | gentoo.org first seen 1999 |
| 10:38.42 | pankey | kde-look first seen 2001 |
| 10:38.46 | pankey | :o |
| 10:38.59 | Renze | kde-look.org is older than 2001 |
| 10:39.05 | Renze | I remember visiting it in 1999 |
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| 10:39.31 | pankey | just going by netcraft |
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| 10:40.12 | pankey | and whois shows Creation Date: 2001-08-01 15:48:29 |
| 10:40.15 | pankey | lol :s |
| 10:40.54 | Renze | probably when they did a server change |
| 10:41.47 | pankey | whois shouldnt change with servers tho |
| 10:41.53 | pankey | hrm |
| 10:42.04 | Renze | depends if they're renewing the domain |
| 10:42.30 | Renze | it is far more likely that they're using debian |
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| 10:43.45 | muuhDBX | Renze: i think the site is down because they are changing distros |
| 10:43.45 | muuhDBX | :D |
| 10:44.06 | pankey | lol |
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| 10:52.59 | Xlice | cable, mmm miam |
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| 10:53.45 | Xlice | hi jucato |
| 10:55.02 | shastry | weird things happened today morning |
| 10:55.20 | shastry | konqueror doesn't honour /etc/hosts before checking resolv.conf for ipaddress ? |
| 10:55.32 | Xlice | dude,IRC aint the right place to "unfold" weird things that happened today morning |
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| 10:56.04 | shastry | i have an alias (192.168.1.1 router) in hosts. but konq tried to get the ip by accessing nameservers first! |
| 10:56.23 | Renze | shastry: I have an alias for my router too, and it works fine here |
| 10:56.23 | Xlice | did u check the state of your connection in your distro's contro lcenter ? what distro ? |
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| 10:57.00 | shastry | Renze: it works fine here too.. but if my inet is dead (i connect to my router via eth), it takes one hell of a time to access router by the alias instead of ip |
| 10:57.08 | shastry | this doesn't happen in firefox though |
| 10:57.16 | muuhDBX | whats an alias for a router and whats its pourpose ? |
| 10:57.27 | Renze | shastry: no such issues here |
| 10:57.30 | shastry | muuhDBX: i type http://router instead of http://192.168.1.1 |
| 10:57.47 | shastry | Renze: :/ weird. just for my info, what kde version and distro ? |
| 10:57.58 | Renze | shastry: gentoo, kde 3.5.6 |
| 10:58.02 | shastry | ok |
| 10:58.03 | shastry | ty |
| 10:58.14 | muuhDBX | how do you do alias ? |
| 10:58.28 | muuhDBX | i tryed once but couldnt figure you |
| 10:58.33 | shastry | muuhDBX: "192.168.1.1 router" in /etc/hosts |
| 10:58.42 | shastry | use a tab instead of the space |
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| 10:59.02 | qupada | doesn't matter |
| 10:59.05 | muuhDBX | thanks |
| 10:59.13 | Xlice | it is a kde-realted question anyway |
| 10:59.17 | Xlice | la* |
| 10:59.24 | qupada | there just has to be one space/tab, or as many as you like |
| 10:59.29 | Xlice | (didnt change keyboard yet) |
| 11:00.05 | Xlice | is it * |
| 11:00.22 | Xlice | qupada, why do my keyboard works that way ? |
| 11:00.33 | Xlice | is there somewhere in kde where I can change the behavior ? |
| 11:00.47 | qupada | what? |
| 11:01.16 | qupada | Xlice: it's midnight here, so you're going to have to start making more sense quick smart. |
| 11:01.27 | Xlice | woow |
| 11:01.31 | Renze | it is too... didn't notice |
| 11:01.41 | Xlice | midnight ? |
| 11:01.46 | Renze | Thu Feb 15 00:01:22 NZDT 2007 |
| 11:01.49 | Xlice | where ? 0_0 , japan ? australia ? |
| 11:02.10 | muuhDBX | new zeland |
| 11:03.04 | Xlice | yeah I know Renze is a all-black ,but qupada |
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| 11:03.14 | Xlice | where are u from ? |
| 11:03.17 | Renze | he is in the same city as me |
| 11:03.23 | Xlice | oh |
| 11:03.32 | qupada | Xlice: i live less than 10km from renze |
| 11:03.43 | Renze | and I'm not an all black... I'm far too pale |
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| 11:03.46 | Xlice | ahy so you see each other ? |
| 11:03.50 | Renze | never met |
| 11:03.56 | Xlice | see/visit/barbecue/ |
| 11:04.13 | qupada | nope, never met |
| 11:04.22 | Xlice | I would like to talk to someone in new zealand :] call me |
| 11:04.28 | Xlice | +22505019122 |
| 11:04.31 | qupada | no, i have no desires to barbeque renze |
| 11:04.41 | Renze | glad to hear it ;) |
| 11:04.59 | Renze | I'd be far too greasy anyway |
| 11:05.02 | LinuxCart | Renze: thanks for the test I'll try it when I'm on 3.5.6 |
| 11:06.03 | Renze | LinuxCart: I'm also using sun jdk 1.5 |
| 11:06.46 | Renze | LinuxCart: ...in case it is a java version problem |
| 11:07.47 | Renze | 555-1234 ;) |
| 11:07.53 | Xlice | ohh ;) |
| 11:08.03 | Xlice | a scam :) ? |
| 11:08.22 | Renze | all 555 numbers are in hollywood :D |
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| 11:10.27 | Xlice | renze , would u call me ? (not sure) I am a lonely girl (sure) |
| 11:10.39 | nik7 | hello there |
| 11:10.42 | Renze | nope, I can't afford to make overseas calls... I'm poor |
| 11:10.52 | Xlice | poor ? |
| 11:11.12 | Renze | without finances |
| 11:11.17 | Xlice | oh u are kidding or dont want to call me for short :] |
| 11:11.18 | Renze | bereft of funds |
| 11:11.28 | Xlice | ok gimme yours in private |
| 11:11.37 | Renze | no, you'll wake my flatmates |
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| 11:11.48 | Xlice | ok |
| 11:12.06 | nik7 | I have to print severel files (pdf, doc, ...)...so I must open every single file in the appropriate applications and print it from there? Isn't there a way like this: selecting the files I want to print, then context menu...print...just this?! |
| 11:12.40 | qupada | well pdfs you can just mass print from the command line with 'lpr foo.pdf' |
| 11:12.52 | Renze | or with kprinter if you need a gui |
| 11:12.57 | Xlice | bordeaux marseille meme combat :) |
| 11:13.01 | Renze | but .doc isn't supported |
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| 11:13.51 | Xlice | nik , actually u are requesting this feature in kde |
| 11:14.02 | Xlice | good point great idea |
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| 11:14.37 | Xlice | :|| |
| 11:14.43 | nik7 | Xlice, yeah, I was thinking about wheter this is already in kde4 brainstorm @ kde-look |
| 11:15.20 | Xlice | be sure that PhilRod will overlook ur suggestion and that u will be served in the next kde version |
| 11:15.44 | nik7 | philrod? |
| 11:15.54 | Xlice | u can also try by binding the suggesstion in ur donation |
| 11:16.02 | Xlice | donation/donate/cash/kde |
| 11:16.23 | nik7 | bugs.kde.org? |
| 11:16.40 | Xlice | kde for short |
| 11:17.09 | Xlice | just donate and bind your suggestion in the donate message |
| 11:17.37 | Xlice | or mail someone of kde directly (for example kpdf->about->authors and mail 'em all) |
| 11:18.17 | Xlice | nik just invented the multiprocessing multithreaded printer ;) |
| 11:18.35 | Xlice | optimized for core 2 duo and amd X2 ;) |
| 11:18.35 | nik7 | ;-) |
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| 11:20.16 | nik7 | "Pms"? |
| 11:20.21 | Xlice | PM |
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| 11:20.35 | nik7 | private message? |
| 11:20.48 | Xlice | mesage->send->Private(PRIVATE_WHAT"PM"): |
| 11:20.50 | Xlice | ; |
| 11:20.55 | Xlice | *:* |
| 11:21.08 | Xlice | message * |
| 11:21.14 | Xlice | (keeeeeeeyboard :( ) |
| 11:21.35 | nik7 | and now...again :-P |
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| 11:22.22 | Xlice | nik , unlock ur private ;) plz |
| 11:24.07 | nik7 | I'm sorry; either you are kidding me, or I really do not unterstand what you demand |
| 11:24.15 | Xlice | :) |
| 11:24.21 | Xlice | do you see my private messages ? |
| 11:24.36 | nik7 | no |
| 11:24.54 | nik7 | is this a new feature on freenode? |
| 11:24.54 | Xlice | either ur client aint capabale check caps,either you disabled it yourself |
| 11:25.00 | Xlice | lol |
| 11:25.11 | Xlice | what irc client are u using ? |
| 11:25.21 | nik7 | xchat |
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| 11:29.35 | bubblenut | Is it possible for me to set a shortcut such that I can hit Ctrl+t from anywhere and it will bring me up a KOrganizer new todo dialogue? |
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| 11:36.59 | Xlice | nik7 are u there ? |
| 11:37.32 | nik7 | yes |
| 11:38.06 | Xlice | call me |
| 11:39.24 | nik7 | got it? |
| 11:40.08 | Xlice | I got it |
| 11:40.12 | Xlice | all is ok |
| 11:40.22 | Xlice | now do u get mine ? |
| 11:40.37 | nik7 | no |
| 11:40.40 | Xlice | did u get my message ? |
| 11:40.41 | Xlice | damn |
| 11:40.46 | Xlice | hold on |
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| 11:41.02 | Xlice | and now ? |
| 11:41.10 | nik7 | no |
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| 11:41.22 | nik7 | try it to nik |
| 11:43.19 | Xlice | @nik7 : hello |
| 11:43.59 | nik7 | Xlice, nothing; so it's my or your problem? |
| 11:44.03 | nik7 | or it's the server |
| 11:44.15 | Xlice | ooh Iget it : " Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )" |
| 11:44.30 | nik7 | *g* |
| 11:44.34 | nik7 | so server |
| 11:44.41 | Xlice | :) |
| 11:44.47 | Xlice | nick u are german ? |
| 11:44.55 | nik7 | ja |
| 11:45.04 | Xlice | join #kde-nick |
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| 11:48.56 | Xlice | :) |
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| 11:51.42 | Xlice | .stats |
| 11:51.43 | DDB | xlice: there are 42389 definitions, 9417 karma items, 2245 quotes, 23 shop items and 127 todo items in my database ... 7611 items till pie! (see ?? applepie) |
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| 11:54.56 | Xlice | zubov hello |
| 11:55.06 | Xlice | fole , wilcomen |
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| 11:55.11 | zubov | hi |
| 11:55.13 | Xlice | floe |
| 11:55.20 | Xlice | hi buddie, how doing ? |
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| 11:56.40 | Xlice | zubov how do you find the latest ati driver installer for linux ? |
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| 11:57.58 | rapid | can I just remove kde with removepkg , and install the new ones with installpkg? |
| 11:58.09 | Xlice | hey who have been calling me :) |
| 11:58.17 | Sho_ | rapid: Sounds like a question for #yourdistro |
| 11:58.20 | zubov | i google for "ati driver xorg" |
| 11:58.22 | Xlice | nik7 :) ?N |
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| 11:59.03 | rapid | Sho_: I stuffed up my fonts somehow. <shruh> its slackware |
| 11:59.15 | Xlice | zubov : http://ati.de/support/driver.html |
| 11:59.26 | Sho_ | rapid: So ask in #slackware :) |
| 12:00.01 | Xlice | zubov here it is :http://ati.de/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html |
| 12:00.06 | Xlice | http://ati.de/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html |
| 12:00.19 | zubov | okay...what's the problem? (I don't have an ati card so I don't really care) |
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| 12:01.36 | Xlice | annma are u french ? |
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| 12:01.43 | Sho_ | Xlice: Please stop randomly advertising channels in here and try to lower the noise ratio a bit ... I read today's backlog and I find lots of off-topic nonsense from you |
| 12:01.44 | Xlice | @zubov |
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| 12:01.58 | Xlice | me ? |
| 12:02.13 | annma | yes I am |
| 12:02.29 | annma | hi Sho_ |
| 12:02.34 | Sho_ | hey annma :) |
| 12:02.35 | Xlice | bonjour |
| 12:02.59 | annma | Xlice: this channel is English speaking |
| 12:03.01 | annma | and topics are around KDE |
| 12:03.10 | Jucato | hi annma, hi Sho_! |
| 12:03.21 | annma | hi Jucato :) |
| 12:03.22 | Jucato | now bye again as I go off somewhere :D |
| 12:03.23 | Sho_ | Jucato: Domino 0.4 is slowly creeping nearer |
| 12:03.36 | annma | see you Jucato |
| 12:03.42 | Jucato | Sho_: oh I thought it was slowly creeping last week :) |
| 12:03.46 | Jucato | btw, Sho_, I just love it! |
| 12:03.49 | Jucato | bbl :) |
| 12:04.19 | Sho_ | bye Jucato |
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| 12:04.21 | annma | I'm about to send a talk submission for aKademy |
| 12:04.42 | Xlice | well,annma , I was going to congratulate you for the headbutt to materazzi , but anyway , how to bind kwrite to ktalk |
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| 12:08.12 | zubov | what a weird dude |
| 12:08.17 | Sho_ | indeed |
| 12:10.02 | annma | maybe a kid |
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| 12:18.48 | eeos_ | hi there |
| 12:18.57 | Jucato | annma: what will you be talking about? |
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| 12:23.45 | annma | Jucato: New in KDE, Tips and tricks, |
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| 12:24.00 | Jucato | New, as in "new user"? |
| 12:24.07 | annma | as new contributor |
| 12:24.11 | Jucato | aaah |
| 12:24.16 | Jucato | very nice :) |
| 12:24.21 | annma | like you, when you submitted the doc |
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| 12:24.27 | Jucato | hehe :) |
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| 12:25.56 | Jucato | what I'm loving about KDE recently is that there are clear/concrete/visible entry points for wannabe "contributors" (w/c includes developers, translators, doc writers, etc). developernew is a great concept, imho |
| 12:26.24 | annma | yes, it's coming along nicely |
| 12:26.57 | annma | a website like developernew is hard to organized |
| 12:26.57 | Sho_ | http://www.kde.org/getinvolved/ is pretty new as well, it was a SoC project |
| 12:27.06 | Jucato | that too |
| 12:27.23 | Jucato | in fact, I dare say there's too much "entry points" :D |
| 12:27.31 | Jucato | q.k.o |
| 12:27.35 | annma | Sho_: wow nice |
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| 12:29.30 | annma | I'll focuse more on How to use the right tools, IRC, mailing lists, websites |
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| 12:32.39 | Jucato | nice nice |
| 12:33.44 | Sho_ | annma: You should maybe add yourself as mentor on http://www.kde.org/getinvolved/development/ too |
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| 12:33.58 | Sho_ | annma: There's no one from edu in the list yet :) |
| 12:34.03 | annma | lol |
| 12:34.26 | annma | ok edu and newbies |
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| 12:35.14 | annma | maybe i'll port more of kdesdk/kapptemplate this week-end |
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| 12:36.58 | ShredZ | Is kde-look down ? |
| 12:37.24 | lostson | yes |
| 12:37.49 | Jucato | yep |
| 12:37.54 | lostson | it was running horribly slow yesterday maybe they are fixing the problems |
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| 12:51.35 | brainiac_ghost | what is the current status of KDE4? |
| 12:52.14 | Jucato | "Under construction..." |
| 12:52.26 | ehird | "does not work"... |
| 12:52.30 | brainiac_ghost | i mean how far through that phase is it |
| 12:52.34 | Jucato | actually, it does work |
| 12:52.40 | Jucato | or at least "compiles and runs a bit" |
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| 12:54.24 | thiago | brainiac_ghost: it's 2 years into that phase already. |
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| 12:54.40 | ehird | Jucato: 'does not work if you actually want to use it' |
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| 12:55.04 | Jucato | "works depends on what you want to use it for" |
| 12:55.19 | brainiac_ghost | how far will it be until it is on beta (working beta that is)? |
| 12:55.25 | annma | ehird: how is it going for you? |
| 12:55.37 | ehird | annma: KDE3/Qt-mac? |
| 12:55.44 | annma | yes |
| 12:55.50 | ehird | still warping kcmoduleproxy out of recognition |
| 12:55.54 | Jucato | oooh interesting :) |
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| 12:56.15 | ehird | Jucato: to be fair, i'm commenting so much out that many apps will die |
| 12:56.29 | Jucato | heh |
| 12:56.34 | ehird | i.e. kdetrayproxy, whatever that is, just won't work, so cmd-a, comment out it goes |
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| 12:57.13 | ehird | yay, no more X in it apart from one crucial part |
| 12:57.15 | thiago | brainiac_ghost: quite some time. |
| 12:57.17 | ehird | That is, it uses QXEmbed |
| 12:57.20 | thiago | brainiac_ghost: we can't be specific |
| 12:57.31 | Jucato | j |
| 12:57.35 | Jucato | er sorry about that |
| 12:57.44 | brainiac_ghost | thiago: ahh |
| 12:57.59 | brainiac_ghost | thiago: this year? next? or longer |
| 12:58.10 | thiago | brainiac_ghost: any of those. |
| 12:58.18 | thiago | brainiac_ghost: 2007, 2008 or 2009. |
| 12:58.21 | thiago | most likely |
| 12:58.27 | ehird | 2010 i bet |
| 12:58.34 | ehird | it's just such a huge change |
| 12:58.35 | Jucato | how much do you bet? |
| 12:58.42 | thiago | I can only tell you for certainty it won't be 2006. |
| 12:58.47 | Jucato | lol |
| 12:58.49 | brainiac_ghost | thiago: heh :) |
| 12:58.51 | ehird | £1000000000000004583095809583405834053.14 |
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| 13:00.20 | thiago | we should put it in the topic: "We don't know when KDE4 will be out" |
| 13:00.37 | thiago | I answer that question at least three times per week and I am hardly online |
| 13:00.56 | ehird | http://pastie.textmate.org/40226 <-- i'm pretty sure i shouldn't comment that out |
| 13:01.06 | LinuxCart | thiago: when will kde5 be out! :D |
| 13:01.11 | ehird | when will kde10 |
| 13:01.13 | ehird | be oooot |
| 13:01.19 | Jucato | when will KDE10K? |
| 13:01.23 | ehird | KDE-1 |
| 13:01.25 | Thundercloud | KDEe^10 |
| 13:01.28 | ehird | KDE |
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| 13:01.39 | thiago | LinuxCart: we haven't decided on a KDE 5 yet |
| 13:01.52 | LinuxCart | when will kde3.4.9? |
| 13:01.54 | Jucato | omg?!?! you haven't?! :D |
| 13:02.00 | Jucato | er..? |
| 13:02.09 | Jucato | don't you mean 3.5.9? |
| 13:02.15 | thiago | LinuxCart: never. |
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| 13:02.35 | LinuxCart | thiago: then it's 3.4.9 what should appear in the topic :D |
| 13:02.46 | Jucato | O.o |
| 13:02.49 | thiago | LinuxCart: we do know that 3.4.9 will never be out |
| 13:02.55 | thiago | and you're the only one asking for it |
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| 13:03.09 | LinuxCart | thiago: I'm just joking ;) |
| 13:03.42 | pankey | hey is it possible to change the stepping for volume controls via multimedia keys? |
| 13:03.42 | LinuxCart | I know, seems my humour it's not on the general wavelength |
| 13:03.46 | ehird | Qwarrrrrr! I tried to take a leaf out of kapplication.h's book and typedef void QXEmbed, but that uh breaks things :D |
| 13:03.48 | pankey | instead of 9% maybe like 4-5% |
| 13:04.54 | ehird | "lost terminal" - SUCCESS |
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| 13:16.29 | ehird | Is it possible to change the theme without kcontrolcenter? |
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| 13:16.58 | annma | the theme, hmm |
| 13:17.10 | annma | you mean using another kde standard theme? |
| 13:17.22 | Sho_ | ehird: You mean the widget style, presumably? |
| 13:17.24 | annma | or using a third party theme? |
| 13:17.31 | Sho_ | ehird: That would be [General]widgetStyle in ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals |
| 13:17.34 | ehird | annma: both, presumably |
| 13:17.40 | ehird | Sho_: right, that's all the config i'd want to do |
| 13:17.51 | annma | using a third party one is trickier |
| 13:17.55 | ehird | kcontrol relies on X, which is the problem |
| 13:18.04 | pankey | no way unless the code is edited? |
| 13:18.15 | ehird | pankey: eh? |
| 13:18.29 | Sho_ | He's referring to [14:05] <pankey> hey is it possible to change the stepping for volume controls via multimedia keys? |
| 13:18.41 | pankey | yea lagging out bad |
| 13:18.43 | pankey | -_- |
| 13:19.32 | ehird | ah |
| 13:19.41 | ehird | Okay, now I do something big |
| 13:19.42 | Jucato | aah |
| 13:19.45 | ehird | I COMMENT OUT ALl OF KCONTORL |
| 13:19.53 | ehird | HA HA HA HA HA!11 |
| 13:20.00 | Jucato | ouch.... caps... |
| 13:20.01 | Sho_ | I recommend keeping KSpell2, though |
| 13:20.10 | ehird | Jucato: Sorry. evil genius in me. |
| 13:20.22 | Jucato | hehe :) |
| 13:20.32 | Sho_ | Then again, KSpell2 probably would have failed on "KCONTORL" :/ |
| 13:20.46 | annma | ;) |
| 13:20.48 | ehird | kcontorl is evil |
| 13:20.50 | ehird | kcontrol is nice |
| 13:20.53 | Jucato | poor KCONTROL |
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| 13:21.02 | ehird | KDE KAPS |
| 13:21.06 | Jucato | ooh is that a new app? kcontorl? |
| 13:21.07 | Jucato | :P |
| 13:21.11 | ehird | yes |
| 13:21.24 | ehird | it's a shell script, "kdesu rm -rf /" |
| 13:21.49 | pankey | anyone use bluetooth here? |
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| 13:22.10 | Sho_ | Nope, I'm old-fashioned and use wires ;) |
| 13:22.19 | ehird | Okay, damn the kcontrolcenter thing. I can't get rid of it without collateral damage |
| 13:22.41 | pankey | aw |
| 13:22.43 | Jucato | will you commenting out KDEBASE soon too? |
| 13:22.49 | ehird | Jucato: I'm not compiling kdebase. |
| 13:22.52 | ehird | Amarok does not need kdebase :D |
| 13:22.59 | Jucato | oooh yeah |
| 13:22.59 | Jucato | :D |
| 13:23.06 | ehird | i'm not insane you know |
| 13:23.08 | ehird | well |
| 13:23.08 | ehird | kinda |
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| 13:23.36 | Sho_ | Jucato: He's attempting to make a native build of Amarok for OS X and for some reason refuses to use Benjamin Reed's patchset that makes kdelibs build with Qt/Mac |
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| 13:24.13 | Jucato | oh... that kinda contradicts the "I'm not insane you know" statement earlier |
| 13:24.14 | ehird | Sho_: You forget to mention it's kdelibs 4 |
| 13:24.30 | Sho_ | ehird: No, it's KDE 3's kdelibs |
| 13:24.36 | Sho_ | But we've been over this .. |
| 13:24.40 | ehird | Where would these patches be? |
| 13:24.50 | Sho_ | ehird: Ask him? I told you he'd RangerRick on Freenode |
| 13:25.15 | Sho_ | They used to be up at the OpenDarwin KDE page, but with OpenDarwin dead he's probably got 'em bitrotting on his drive somewhere |
| 13:25.16 | ehird | I did. He said that with kde3 I should just give up and not bother. |
| 13:25.26 | Sho_ | hmm |
| 13:25.37 | Sho_ | Be stubborn and ask him to hand you his patches anyway ;) |
| 13:25.55 | Jucato | be as stubborn as Sho_ :) |
| 13:26.02 | Sho_ | At least then you can look at what he commented out / changed to make it build |
| 13:27.28 | ehird | Actualy, why the hell does dialog.cpp rely on KControl |
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| 13:35.14 | dinosaur-rus | hi |
| 13:36.42 | dinosaur-rus | how can I remove "Switch User" item from K Menu (Kubuntu 7.04, KDE 3.5.6)? |
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| 13:38.06 | thiago | set the policy |
| 13:38.12 | thiago | see the Kiosk documentation |
| 13:38.14 | hibread | Hey guys. Im just curious to know if others have the same experience with konsole as i do. It seems to refresh a lot slower than gnome terminal. In some cases i reckon 10 fold |
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| 13:38.47 | thiago | hibread: describe that, please. |
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| 13:39.39 | hibread | Umm, for example just then i performed a "locate" which fills the screen with text. If i try and scroll with the verticle scroll bar, the refresh is very slow |
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| 13:40.06 | thiago | it's not slow here |
| 13:40.47 | hibread | hmm, it has always been a little slower than the gnome terminal, but recently it just seems to really grind along |
| 13:41.24 | thiago | I wouldn't be surprised if it were a little slower, though nothing here indicates it is |
| 13:41.34 | thiago | but nothing has been done to it recently to make it really slow |
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| 13:43.18 | hibread | Ive heard that text rendering has had an upgrade recently.. could that be possible? I have a gentoo system compiled with ~x86 |
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| 13:44.23 | thiago | nothing in KDE 3 is being reworked like that |
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| 14:16.43 | ehird | hmm. is there a way to disable the compilation of kcontrol? |
| 14:17.12 | nik7 | dunno, but what's wrong with it? |
| 14:19.51 | thiago | ehird: yes, there is |
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| 14:19.59 | thiago | DO_NOT_COMPILE=kcontrol ./configure ..... |
| 14:20.07 | ehird | okay |
| 14:20.11 | ehird | time for reconfigure+compile |
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| 14:23.11 | ehird | that doesn't work.. |
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| 14:23.22 | ehird | still compiles kcmoduleproxy, still errors on it.. |
| 14:23.33 | bubblenut | how can I insert raw html markup in a kmail email and not have it escaped? |
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| 14:25.59 | ehird | or is kc... not kcontrol? |
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| 14:27.14 | Jucato | ehird: kcm = kcontrol module. but independent of the kcontrol app itself, afaik |
| 14:27.42 | ehird | does DO_NOT_COMPILE="kcontrol kcm" work? |
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| 14:28.08 | Jucato | um... better #kde-devel :) |
| 14:28.15 | Sho_ | Jucato: yup, kcms are used outside of KControl as well |
| 14:28.19 | ehird | but it's dead :( |
| 14:28.23 | ehird | Sho_: damn |
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| 14:28.31 | Jucato | what's dead? |
| 14:28.36 | ehird | kde-devel |
| 14:28.40 | Jucato | er? |
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| 14:30.41 | babali | does someone tried kde4 with gentoo experimental ebuilds ? |
| 14:31.02 | rapid | etheri, greetings fellow victorian |
| 14:31.24 | eeos | hi there. |
| 14:31.38 | eeos | kde-devel is dead? in what sense? |
| 14:32.31 | etheri | rapid: heh, hey |
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| 14:33.42 | etheri | rapid: we should really be asleep ya know :D |
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| 14:34.19 | rapid | etheri, i'm waiting for a build to finish, and sleep is definately not on tonights platter. |
| 14:34.50 | rapid | etheri, you work? |
| 14:36.10 | etheri | rapid: nah, first year uni student, and a lazy one at that. |
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| 14:38.33 | onesandzeros | when I maximize a window, the height of the title bar squashes down from 16 pixels to about 12 (the height of the buttons). In another account, using the same window decs, the size doesn't change. Does anyone know where this setting is? I have screen shots if my explanation isn't clear. |
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| 14:42.22 | brendan___ | Hi, anyone know why kde-look.org, and kde-apps.org are down? |
| 14:43.07 | Jucato | server problems probably... no one really knows for certain |
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| 14:43.14 | Jucato | they're hosted on a different server from KDE afaik |
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| 14:49.41 | slyfox | Those who use Akgregtor - when viewing list of news on a specific RSS feed, is this a bug that when I press down key on my keyboard, akgregator deos not move on to the next news article in the list ? |
| 14:50.15 | Jucato | it's not a bug |
| 14:50.22 | Jucato | it's an intended behavior |
| 14:50.25 | Sho_ | slyfox: Use Arrow Left/Right |
| 14:50.32 | Jucato | I think |
| 14:50.42 | Jucato | Down/Up is for scrolling (not really sure) |
| 14:50.46 | Sho_ | slyfox: Up/Down are for scrolling the message pane |
| 14:51.09 | slyfox | Sho_: got it, a bit unintuative but works |
| 14:51.21 | slyfox | Jucato: Sho_ Thanks |
| 14:51.36 | Jucato | Sho_: wow... I made a smart guess... amazing |
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| 14:51.59 | slyfox | Does any of you use some kind of software for brainstorming ? |
| 14:52.48 | Sho_ | slyfox: Some people use KDissert I guess (a mindmapper) |
| 14:53.09 | Jucato | darn kdissert ;( |
| 14:53.36 | Jucato | the term is "brain mapping software" btw |
| 14:53.50 | slyfox | Cool |
| 14:54.39 | slyfox | It is just that freemind is a Java program and java sucks when it comes to font size, on my 1680x1050 resolution all progras behave correctly becasue I set a big font size in the sytem control, but java does not lsiten to these settings :-( |
| 14:54.54 | Jucato | how about vym? |
| 14:55.29 | Sho_ | Jucato: Traditionally it's called "mind mapping" |
| 14:55.41 | Jucato | oh yeah |
| 14:55.44 | Jucato | lol |
| 14:55.45 | Jucato | my brain is dead too |
| 14:56.08 | Jucato | lol @ brain mapping |
| 14:56.09 | Jucato | darn |
| 14:56.36 | slyfox | Jucato: vym looks good |
| 14:56.45 | slyfox | just installed |
| 14:56.59 | Jucato | I hope semantik would look better... but might be a dead project.. |
| 14:57.07 | Jucato | (not to mention a weird name for a mind-mapping app) |
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| 14:58.14 | Sho_ | My favorite mind-mapper is actually a diagramming app, OmniGraffle |
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| 14:58.55 | slyfox | Sho_: is it free and for linux ? |
| 14:59.14 | Sho_ | slyfox: Nope, it's a closed-source, commercial application for Mac OS X |
| 14:59.26 | {Nathan} | I have a question about the alt + enter shortcut in KDE. When I type in a song, for example ACDC - Back in Black, it shows it. But when I press enter, it does *nothing*. I am running amarok. HOw do I get it to add the song to the playlist or queue the track? |
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| 14:59.43 | Sho_ | However the maintainer of KOffice' Kivio happens to like OmniGraffle, so maybe I'll end up liking Kivio 2.0 |
| 15:00.07 | Sho_ | The only dedicated mind-mapper for KDE 3.x I'm aware of is the aforementioned KDissert |
| 15:00.48 | Sho_ | Jucato: Alt+Enter is what Kubuntu maps Katapult to, I presume? |
| 15:01.01 | slyfox | Sho_: alt+space |
| 15:01.13 | Sho_ | {Nathan}: Best place is #katapult probably |
| 15:01.33 | Sho_ | Sounds like you're using that, anyway |
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| 15:02.39 | pankey | does kicker only support fake transparency? |
| 15:03.18 | Sho_ | pankey: yup |
| 15:03.24 | pankey | oh ok |
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| 15:04.00 | Sho_ | pankey: Kicker pre-dates the arrival of COMPOSITE on the scene, and the idea for KDE4 was to replace it anyway, so 3.5 focussed on UI and stability rather than eyecandy |
| 15:04.01 | {Nathan} | Sho_: okay, thanks |
| 15:04.32 | Jucato | sorry, Alt+Space |
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| 15:05.37 | slyfox | Sho_: do you use Koffice or OpenOffice ? |
| 15:06.19 | Sho_ | slyfox: KOffice |
| 15:06.40 | Sho_ | slyfox: My needs are fairly humble, and KOffice is faster and better integrated into KDE |
| 15:06.44 | slyfox | Sho_: Can it work with .doc as well as open office ? |
| 15:06.49 | Jucato | Sho_: does KIvio do some sort of mind mapping too? |
| 15:07.04 | Sho_ | slyfox: I wouldn't know, I don't have to work with .doc files |
| 15:07.15 | pankey | i c |
| 15:07.24 | Jucato | slyfox: unfortunately, based on my current experience w/ KOffice 1.6.1, KOffice doesn't seem to open .doc and .xls that well... |
| 15:07.36 | slyfox | Jucato: I used to be a heavy mind mapper, now I just need something basic for brainstorming. I use TiddlyWIki for all notes |
| 15:07.36 | pankey | should be ez enuf to set it in beryl tho :D |
| 15:07.49 | Tm_T | KWord has issues with DOC /w images |
| 15:07.54 | Sho_ | Jucato: Not at the moment, no. Neither does OmniGraffle specificially, it's technically a diagramming app, but due to its strong visuals and easy handling it's easily used for mind-mapping as well. If Kivio becomes more OmniGraffle-like I would assume that would happen as well. |
| 15:08.00 | Jucato | slyfox: I'm hoping that basKet would get some mind mapping features :) |
| 15:08.07 | Sho_ | Jucato: http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnigraffle/ for some screenies |
| 15:08.09 | slyfox | Jucato: If Koffice does not work with .doc then this sucks ... |
| 15:08.13 | benJIman | Jucato: what's wrong with kdissert? |
| 15:08.25 | Jucato | benJIman: nothing. just looking for similar apps |
| 15:08.43 | Jucato | hm.. well actually, kdissert seems a bit old... but does its job well |
| 15:08.44 | Jucato | imho |
| 15:09.08 | Sho_ | slyfox: I think the plan is that OpenOffice and KOffice will work together on import filters in the future that convert to OpenDocument, which are the native file formats of both office suites |
| 15:09.23 | Sho_ | slyfox: So I assume that at some point, MS Office compatibility will be roughly equal among both |
| 15:10.03 | Jucato | slyfox: you also have to take note that KOffice and OO.o began with and have different goals in mind... afaik, MS Office compatibility wasn't much of a priority back then... |
| 15:10.08 | Jucato | Sho_: you mean the lines? |
| 15:10.12 | Sho_ | Jucato: yup |
| 15:10.20 | Jucato | yeah, kinda sucks... |
| 15:10.29 | Sho_ | Of course that's easily fixed when it goes Qt4 |
| 15:10.35 | Jucato | I had some minor issues with kdissert before... but I can't remember them now |
| 15:10.38 | onesandzeros | when I maximize a window, the height of the title bar squashes down from 16 pixels to about 12 (the height of the buttons). In another account, using the same window decs, the size doesn't change. Does anyone know where this setting is? I have screen shots if my explanation isn't clear. |
| 15:10.48 | Sho_ | (Isn't Semantik the KDE4 port of KDissert, actually?) |
| 15:11.04 | Jucato | yes |
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| 15:11.20 | Sho_ | onesandzeros: Most likely it's KControl -> Desktop -> Window Behavior -> Moving -> Allow moving and resizing of maximized windows |
| 15:11.31 | onesandzeros | Sho_: thanks, I'll check that out |
| 15:12.14 | Sho_ | onesandzeros: When that's disabled, some deco engines enter a special mode in maximized state where they stop drawing borders or resize handles (which I personally like) |
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| 15:14.54 | onesandzeros | Sho_: yeah, that did it. I like that effect too. |
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| 15:16.00 | slyfox | VYM looks good so far, I will work with it and see how it is for me. |
| 15:16.25 | slyfox | Shame that the latest version was back in 2006-06-21, looks like they stopped the developemnt ? |
| 15:17.02 | Sho_ | Probably spend too much time mind-mapping and not enough time coding ;) |
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| 15:22.01 | slyfox | It seems that VYM has a problem I cannot delte branches at all, maybe a bug, maybe my system, but delte button and delete menu do nothing |
| 15:22.08 | Jucato | ooh looks like troy wrote about a slightly sensitive topic :) |
| 15:22.14 | slyfox | I think I will just learn how to utilize TiddlyWiki for all that |
| 15:22.20 | Jucato | slyfox: vym, btw, isn't a kde app :) |
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| 15:24.52 | Sho_ | Jucato: Not ports to proprietary desktops again I hope? ;) |
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| 15:25.19 | Jucato | no. |
| 15:25.25 | Jucato | just Okular and Ligature :) |
| 15:25.43 | Sho_ | Nothing mood-worsening then |
| 15:25.49 | Jucato | oh yeah |
| 15:26.01 | Jucato | just exciting to see who the comments will go after 24 hours :) |
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| 15:27.34 | Sho_ | Jucato: Hm? Link? |
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| 15:27.44 | Jucato | http://beranger.org/index.php?fullarticle=2422 |
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| 15:28.17 | Jucato | bottom line of the blog: sebas shouldn't be working for/on Kubuntu since he's an e.V. member :) |
| 15:28.59 | thiago | right. You could say he shouldn't be working for Kubuntu because he's male. |
| 15:29.04 | Sho_ | Afaik the primary problem with kpowersave was that it uses deprecated interfaces and has a lot of model-specific hacks that are better left in HAL |
| 15:29.10 | thiago | it's got the same value :-) |
| 15:29.18 | Jucato | thiago: exactly. poor guy |
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| 15:30.06 | Sho_ | I'm not really sure what he's whining about |
| 15:30.15 | Sho_ | It's open-source, and not Kubuntu-specific |
| 15:30.27 | Sho_ | *shrugs* |
| 15:30.32 | Jucato | sebas' reply sums it all up nicely, imho |
| 15:31.05 | Sho_ | haven't read that far yet :) |
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| 15:31.14 | Jucato | heh, a very nice valentine greeting for him ;) |
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| 15:35.36 | jorgp | I wonder if ehird ever got amarok to work native on osx |
| 15:35.43 | ehird | stillw orking on it. |
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| 15:35.53 | jorgp | morning ehird |
| 15:35.55 | ehird | kdelibs has tons of X stuff |
| 15:36.15 | ehird | i.e. kcmoduleproxy, which uses QXEmbed, X<stuff>, ... and I can't find a replacement for them |
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| 15:36.52 | aditsu | hi, how can I change the size of the icons in the taskbar? |
| 15:37.00 | ehird | taskbar prefs |
| 15:37.02 | ehird | right click-->.. |
| 15:37.18 | Jucato | er? |
| 15:37.21 | Jucato | size of the icons? you can't |
| 15:37.31 | ehird | oh, yeah |
| 15:37.34 | ehird | read it as size of taskbar |
| 15:37.40 | aditsu | oh |
| 15:37.46 | aditsu | that sucks then |
| 15:38.02 | ehird | i doubt kde devs care about that much with kde 4 and all |
| 15:38.44 | aditsu | when is kde 4 expected to be released? |
| 15:39.33 | Jucato | hate to say this... "when it's ready" |
| 15:39.38 | Jucato | aka "no date" |
| 15:40.14 | aditsu | ok.. so it's still under heavy devlopment? |
| 15:40.21 | Jucato | very heavy |
| 15:40.54 | thiago | see what I mean? |
| 15:41.07 | thiago | aditsu: is YAUWWWK4WBR |
| 15:41.16 | thiago | "yet another user who wonders when KDE 4 will be released" |
| 15:41.36 | aditsu | lol, so many that you have an acronym? :) |
| 15:41.47 | thiago | aditsu: I've just coined it :-) |
| 15:41.56 | thiago | though I think we need to shorten it |
| 15:41.59 | Jucato | thiago: unfortunately, those types of users hate to hear the only (and most) accurate answer we could really give... |
| 15:42.03 | aditsu | oh no, what have I done.. |
| 15:42.09 | Eruantalon | aditsu: YAHTHAA(You always have to have an acronym) |
| 15:42.26 | Jucato | can we use a recursive acronym? |
| 15:42.35 | Jucato | hm... |
| 15:43.12 | thiago | oh no... |
| 15:43.28 | Jucato | lol |
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| 15:46.14 | jnmbk | Hi, where can we change KDE menu button? (without using kbfx) |
| 15:46.38 | Jucato | ~kmenu |
| 15:46.47 | apt | Instructions for changing the K menu icon: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2551958 . Alternatively, use kbfx |
| 15:46.48 | Jucato | hm... |
| 15:46.54 | Jucato | oh there jnmbk ^^ |
| 15:47.04 | jnmbk | ok, thanks |
| 15:47.10 | pinotree | ~kmenu |
| 15:47.12 | apt | Instructions for changing the K menu icon: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2551958 . Alternatively, use kbfx |
| 15:47.18 | aditsu | ~lag |
| 15:47.20 | apt | it has been said that lag is very bad here :( |
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| 15:48.37 | Jucato | pinotree: how come you never say hello in here? lol |
| 15:48.45 | pinotree | ... |
| 15:49.03 | Jucato | just so I could say "hello" back :) |
| 15:49.08 | Jucato | j/k |
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| 15:50.58 | aditsu | how do people deal with many running applications? (the default taskbar is pretty small) |
| 15:51.10 | aditsu | I tried putting a new panel on the left side and moving the taskbar there |
| 15:51.18 | aditsu | but the icons are too small... |
| 15:51.38 | Jucato | aditsu: don't show windows from all desktops in the taskbar |
| 15:51.52 | aditsu | I'm not, however I'm mainly using one desktop |
| 15:52.02 | benJIman | aditsu: if you use that many you can make it bigger, or use alt-tab or alt-esc |
| 15:52.04 | Jucato | or have a separate panel/external taskbar just for the taskbar |
| 15:52.22 | Jucato | or use virtual desktop... |
| 15:52.28 | Jucato | or just Alt+Tab like benJIman |
| 15:52.39 | Jucato | benJIman: what's Alt+Esc mapped to? |
| 15:52.48 | benJIman | I have it mapped to the same as it is in windows |
| 15:52.56 | Jucato | which would be? |
| 15:53.00 | benJIman | which is cycle windows |
| 15:53.05 | Jucato | oh |
| 15:53.06 | Gentle | is kde-look down?` |
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| 15:53.13 | aditsu | alt-tab is not direct, and easy to miss the right app when you have many |
| 15:53.14 | benJIman | Jucato: same as mouse-overing the taskbar |
| 15:53.21 | benJIman | aditsu: use alt-esc |
| 15:53.33 | Jucato | aaah |
| 15:53.34 | benJIman | aditsu: taskbar means you have to use the mouse |
| 15:53.41 | aditsu | alt-esc is not doing anything right now (but I probably don't have the default shortcuts) |
| 15:54.01 | Jucato | it's not a default shortcut |
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| 15:56.09 | aditsu | oh, I can have 2 taskbars |
| 15:56.26 | Jucato | taskbar w/ 2 rows.. |
| 15:56.31 | Jucato | or 4 rows... |
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| 15:57.08 | aditsu | no, two different panels, each one with a taskbar |
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| 15:58.58 | atoi | anyone have any idea how long kde-look.org has been down or why? |
| 15:59.21 | jay | how can I write a script to manipulate the proxy in kde? |
| 15:59.26 | Jucato | 12 hours ago.. not sure why |
| 15:59.37 | Przemcio78 | xfce-look.org is down too |
| 15:59.41 | jay | proxy settings |
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| 16:00.15 | Jucato | Przemcio78: all the *-look and *-apps sites are on the same server |
| 16:00.17 | archangelpetro | hi |
| 16:00.18 | archangelpetro | :) |
| 16:00.20 | Jucato | (owned by the same person afaik) |
| 16:00.24 | Jucato | hi archangelpetro |
| 16:00.53 | Sho_ | Jucato: I wrote a reply, let's see if he's going to approve it ;) |
| 16:01.09 | Jucato | Sho_: lol! :) |
| 16:01.24 | Jucato | I hope he does... I'm dying to see your reply :) |
| 16:01.24 | archangelpetro | how are you guys? |
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| 16:02.22 | Jucato | archangelpetro: relatively... um.. can't say fine |
| 16:02.31 | archangelpetro | whats up? |
| 16:02.52 | Jucato | Sho_: I kinda feel doubtful of these blogs that still need approval for comments... |
| 16:03.27 | wickedfiddle | anyone know what happened to www.kde-look.org and www.kde-apps.org ? |
| 16:03.30 | Jucato | s/doubtful/dubious/g |
| 16:03.39 | Jucato | archangelpetro: the sky, thankfully |
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| 16:03.51 | Jucato | wickedfiddle: they're all down... no news as to why |
| 16:03.54 | Jucato | or when they'll be up |
| 16:04.02 | wickedfiddle | k. thanks. |
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| 16:06.44 | Sho_ | Jucato: He just let it through it seems |
| 16:07.13 | Jucato | whoa!! a long post! :) |
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| 16:16.02 | Jucato | Sho_: nice one! let's see him reploy to that :) |
| 16:17.04 | Jucato | s/reploy/reply/ |
| 16:17.47 | nik7 | what's up wit kde-look.org? |
| 16:17.57 | Sho_ | oh, git 1.5.0 is done |
| 16:18.07 | Sho_ | nik7: Down for unknown reasons, probably server trouble |
| 16:18.23 | nik7 | /topic |
| 16:19.05 | nik7 | wops, hmm.. |
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| 16:30.17 | Jucato | oh god! Sho_ have you seen his latest reply? |
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| 16:37.49 | brainiac_ghost | they have hot pluggable CPUs now :O |
| 16:38.06 | annma | Jucato: what's up? |
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| 16:38.29 | Jucato | hi annma |
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| 16:38.51 | Jucato | annma: want something to stir up your afternoon? :D |
| 16:38.58 | annma | yes? |
| 16:39.04 | Jucato | ehehe |
| 16:39.06 | Jucato | http://beranger.org/index.php?fullarticle=2422 |
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| 16:40.09 | Jucato | btw, I just found something amusing in the recent Dot article. someone posted that Okular crashes on a certain .chm file... which seems to be a (pirated?) copy of C++ GUI Programming using Qt 4 :) |
| 16:40.40 | Q-collective | lol |
| 16:40.42 | pusling | ..is kde-(look|apps).org down ? |
| 16:40.48 | Jucato | pusling: yes |
| 16:40.52 | pusling | hmm. |
| 16:40.58 | Q-collective | pusling: wouldn't be a first |
| 16:41.05 | Jucato | all kde-*.org and *-*.org sites... |
| 16:42.04 | Q-collective | Q-collective.org is down? :o |
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| 16:42.05 | Jucato | lol |
| 16:42.05 | Q-collective | (: |
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| 16:43.00 | Jucato | lol! what a great way to get readers... rant about something (stupid?)... and wait for people to defend the poor dev :) |
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| 16:43.53 | jose1711 | hello, does anyone know whats with kde-apps|look.org? |
| 16:44.20 | Jucato | jose1711: it's down. |
| 16:44.29 | jose1711 | i figured |
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| 16:44.54 | jose1711 | any idea when it will be back up? |
| 16:45.41 | Jucato | jose1711: kde-*.org sites have been down for almost 12+ hours plus. It seems to be a server problem. Since it's not hosted on KDE servers, there's no certainty of when it will be back up. |
| 16:45.53 | Jucato | rawr silly script :) |
| 16:46.14 | jose1711 | k, thx |
| 16:46.15 | Sho_ | Jucato: And the next round ... wrote another reply ;) |
| 16:46.22 | Jucato | Sho_: lol :) |
| 16:46.31 | Jucato | I'm betting this guy won't give up the good fight |
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| 16:46.44 | Sho_ | Jucato: He does seem to have calmed a little |
| 16:46.50 | Jucato | and he'll compare again KDE's development process to GNOME... |
| 16:47.20 | Jucato | I'm basically reading from him "why does KDE need to do this or that? GNOME doesn't" |
| 16:47.23 | pinotree | Jucato: who? |
| 16:47.55 | Sho_ | Jucato: OK he approved it |
| 16:47.56 | Jucato | http://beranger.org/index.php?fullarticle=2422 |
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| 16:52.06 | Jucato | Sho_: are you able to edit your own comments? |
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| 16:52.49 | Sho_ | Jucato: no |
| 16:53.38 | pinotree | bah, idiot |
| 16:53.52 | Jucato | heheh :) |
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| 16:54.00 | pinotree | lonely rant of an out-of-mind dull idiot |
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| 16:55.26 | SmrtJustin | for some reason in my KDE System Settings there is no nvidia driver for me to show, only nv. I have nvidia installed and it works fine when KDM launches, but once I log in my refresh rate drops, and in system settings I can't raise it and it says I'm using the nv driver. |
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| 16:55.49 | Nebukadneza | hi |
| 16:56.08 | Nebukadneza | is there a way to make koqueror forget that i told it to always save pdfs to disk |
| 16:56.17 | pinotree | SmrtJustin: that module (along with system settings) is a kubuntu-specific thing, so i'd ask in #kubuntu |
| 16:56.21 | Jucato | SmrtJustin: #kubuntu please. System Settings (and the changes implemented by Kubuntu) are a Kubuntu only thing |
| 16:56.39 | Jucato | lol |
| 16:56.47 | SmrtJustin | oh ok guys. I tried and it was dead quiet in there. So I figured you guys might know. |
| 16:57.00 | Jucato | SmrtJustin: try now. it's not dead quiet anymore |
| 16:57.09 | Jucato | but doesn't mean someone there will know about your problem :) |
| 16:57.15 | Jucato | iirc, someone answered you btw.... |
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| 16:59.13 | annma | this guy is a pro gnome as I don't see KDE in categories |
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| 17:00.54 | Jucato | that he is... so I'm curious where he gets his ideas about KDE development from... |
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| 17:01.16 | Sho_ | Well, he has calmed down over the course of the commrnt thread at least |
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| 17:01.33 | Jucato | yeah.. at least.. maybe he'll see reason eventually :) |
| 17:02.00 | Jucato | but it's just amazing at the turn the discussion took... from sebas developing something on Kubuntu to KDE 4 :) |
| 17:02.16 | annma | ;) |
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| 17:02.30 | Jucato | at least the heat is off sebas now :) |
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| 17:02.43 | annma | this guy needs a valentine |
| 17:02.47 | annma | that's all |
| 17:02.50 | Jucato | heheh |
| 17:02.54 | Jucato | maybe even a life |
| 17:03.00 | pinotree | the guy needs a brain |
| 17:03.04 | pinotree | seriously |
| 17:03.17 | FuzZy2007 | i heard kde4 will be out in Q3 of this year. is that true? |
| 17:03.22 | pinotree | FuzZy2007: no |
| 17:03.25 | Sho_ | FuzZy2007: There's no date |
| 17:03.27 | Jucato | wow ;) |
| 17:03.29 | gemidjy__ | uh uh, kpresenter is bad :( |
| 17:03.29 | annma | FuzZy2007: no one know |
| 17:03.35 | FuzZy2007 | i see |
| 17:03.37 | annma | gemidjy__: is it? |
| 17:03.37 | Jucato | annma: nice :) |
| 17:03.44 | gemidjy | annma: yeap :( |
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| 17:03.47 | brainiac_ghost | hmm, how long will KDE take to compile? |
| 17:03.50 | gemidjy | don't get me wrong :) |
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| 17:03.57 | annma | brainiac_ghost: all of KDE? |
| 17:04.05 | annma | brainiac_ghost: CPU and RAM? |
| 17:04.06 | brainiac_ghost | annma: yup, opteron 144 |
| 17:04.08 | gemidjy | brainiac_ghost: use konstruct |
| 17:04.16 | brainiac_ghost | annma: 1024 meg ram |
| 17:04.17 | annma | brainiac_ghost: KDE3 OR 4 |
| 17:04.22 | brainiac_ghost | 3, using emerge |
| 17:04.24 | annma | brainiac_ghost: a breeze! |
| 17:04.31 | annma | emerge!!! |
| 17:04.33 | gemidjy | ahh |
| 17:04.40 | Jucato | annma: yum :) |
| 17:04.42 | brainiac_ghost | annma: i meant time wise :P |
| 17:04.46 | Jucato | or whatever driva uses :) |
| 17:05.00 | annma | brainiac_ghost: depends what you build |
| 17:05.18 | annma | qt will take 1h1/2 maybe |
| 17:05.31 | brainiac_ghost | annma: emerge -av kde-meta (from a totally fresh install) |
| 17:05.34 | annma | kdelibs same and kdebase same |
| 17:05.52 | annma | brainiac_ghost: I have no idea what your kde-meta is and what it includes |
| 17:06.07 | annma | does it include kdeedu? |
| 17:06.07 | LinuxCart | bye all |
| 17:06.07 | annma | kdeaccessibility? |
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| 17:06.10 | annma | kdeaddons? |
| 17:06.16 | brainiac_ghost | annma: kde-meta = every KDE official package i think |
| 17:06.38 | Jucato | annma: might be the Gentoo counterpart of Debian's "kde" metapackage |
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| 17:06.47 | Jucato | dunno what mandriva calls it |
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| 17:07.07 | annma | usually what they call full kde does not include alll kde modules |
| 17:07.15 | Jucato | oh |
| 17:07.26 | annma | Jucato: does kde metapackage include kdeedu? |
| 17:07.36 | brainiac_ghost | annma: kde-meta metapackage does :) |
| 17:07.41 | Sho_ | annma: yes |
| 17:07.45 | annma | ok then |
| 17:07.52 | Jucato | kde-core (>= 5:47), kde-amusements (>= 5:47), kdeaccessibility (>= 4:3.4.3), kdeaddons (>=4:3.4.3), kdeadmin (>= 4:3.4.3), kdeartwork (>= 4:3.4.3), kdegraphics (>= 4:3.4.3),kdemultimedia (>= 4:3.4.3), kdenetwork (>= 4:3.4.3), kdepim (>= 4:3.4.3), kdeutils (>=4:3.4.3), kdewebdev (>= 4:3.4.3) |
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| 17:08.01 | Jucato | kubuntu's doesn't it seems... |
| 17:08.08 | annma | ahhhhhhhhhhh |
| 17:08.13 | Sho_ | kde-meta is a virtual package with dependencies on all <kde modulname>-meta virtuals, which in turn depend on the respective app packages |
| 17:08.27 | annma | i'll blog about it Jucato |
| 17:08.32 | Jucato | annma: wait! |
| 17:08.34 | annma | lol |
| 17:08.36 | Jucato | lol!!! |
| 17:08.38 | annma | I was joking |
| 17:08.48 | Jucato | wait... you might find this funny... |
| 17:09.08 | Jucato | kde-amusements: Depends: kde-core (>= 5:47), kdeedu (>= 4:3.4.3), kdegames (>= 4:3.4.3), kdetoys (>= 4:3.4.3) |
| 17:09.11 | annma | brainiac_ghost: all of this will take something like 8 hours at the least |
| 17:09.23 | brainiac_ghost | annma: right, i'll leave it on overnight then :) |
| 17:09.26 | annma | kde-amusements |
| 17:09.31 | Jucato | annma: so the "kde" metapackage does install kdeedu :) |
| 17:09.31 | annma | brainiac_ghost: yes |
| 17:09.36 | Jucato | but it's under kde-amusements :) |
| 17:09.44 | annma | it's hmmm amusing! |
| 17:09.48 | Jucato | lol |
| 17:09.52 | Sho_ | weird Debian folks |
| 17:09.54 | Sho_ | :) |
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| 17:09.57 | Jucato | roflmao |
| 17:10.04 | Jucato | lol I'm literally lol irl |
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| 17:11.29 | Jucato | thanks... needed that :) |
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| 17:13.49 | Jucato | looks like sebas wasn't the guys first victim... even danimo wasn't spared |
| 17:13.55 | Jucato | wonder if Sho_ will be next :P |
| 17:14.17 | annma | we'll protect Sho_ Jucato |
| 17:14.30 | Jucato | of course *you* will :) |
| 17:14.32 | annma | you're bodyguard 1 |
| 17:14.35 | Sho_ | Jucato: For some reason I seem to enjoy that sort of crisis communication stuff |
| 17:15.01 | Jucato | heh :) |
| 17:15.13 | Jucato | Sho_: why not blog... I'm sure you have many ideas... and you write well |
| 17:15.23 | Jucato | (again the call for a novel or book by Eike Hein) |
| 17:15.39 | Sho_ | Jucato: Because then I have no time left to code whatsoever ;) |
| 17:15.48 | Jucato | Sho_: after Konvi 2.0 :) |
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| 17:16.14 | Sho_ | maybe ;) |
| 17:16.45 | annma | sounds right |
| 17:17.06 | annma | Eike Hein has some "cachet" as a name |
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| 17:18.28 | Jucato | ok, kde-look seems to be back up |
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| 17:18.57 | Jucato | kde-apps too |
| 17:19.34 | Jucato | gnome-look.org also |
| 17:19.36 | Jucato | oops... |
| 17:19.54 | nik7 | pss.. *g* |
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| 17:20.29 | Jucato | :P |
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| 17:35.02 | WannabeNewbie | Can anyone tell me if it is possible to remove window borders in KDE? if so, how? |
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| 17:35.51 | Jucato | WannabeNewbie: Alt+F3 (or right-click on the window title bar) -> Advanced -> No Border |
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| 17:36.05 | WannabeNewbie | Ok, thanks so much |
| 17:36.09 | Jucato | WannabeNewbie: if you want to make it more permanent for that specific window, Advanced -> Special Window Settings |
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| 17:36.52 | WannabeNewbie | Great, I appreciate that. |
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| 17:41.23 | jnmbk | Hi, where can I find/change these settings in my KDE installation? http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/branches/kicker/kmenu_search/kicker/core/extensionSettings.kcfg?rev=409361 |
| 17:41.51 | thiago | 409361? |
| 17:41.52 | OutoLumo | jnmbk, K-menu->Control center...? |
| 17:42.40 | jnmbk | <entry name="CustomSize" type="Int" > |
| 17:42.50 | jnmbk | which size is this? |
| 17:43.01 | jnmbk | default 58 min 16 |
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| 17:44.48 | thiago | I'd say it's the panel size |
| 17:45.19 | jnmbk | I thought panel size was sometihng near 32 |
| 17:46.12 | thiago | that depends on the panel's... size :-) |
| 17:46.18 | thiago | the small panel must be 32 |
| 17:46.25 | thiago | there's a tiny one and it can get even smaller |
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| 17:46.46 | jnmbk | ok :) |
| 17:47.25 | jnmbk | What I really want to do is to change width of KDE menu button |
| 17:48.21 | aseigo | jnmbk: not possible right now, but possibly in the next 3.5.x release. helio just finished a patch for these things for a mandriva customer and it looks good enough to probably make it into the branch |
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| 17:50.03 | Jucato | hi aseigo! |
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| 17:51.44 | pinotree | hey aseigo, can you follow the magic ping? ;) |
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| 17:52.14 | aseigo | pinotree: the magic ping? was it forged in kazad dum or something? |
| 17:52.32 | pinotree | lol... just a ping in #kde4-devel ;) |
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| 17:55.45 | LionKMP | hi! do you know if anybody is ever online (active) on #umbrello? :) |
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| 18:01.22 | Sho_ | Oh, a new Qt3. |
| 18:02.32 | thiago | 3.3.8 |
| 18:02.44 | Sho_ | yup |
| 18:02.54 | Jucato | oh? |
| 18:03.37 | thiago | TT releases one every now and then |
| 18:03.46 | thiago | it's a deep-freeze maintanance release |
| 18:03.55 | Sho_ | Jucato: http://www.trolltech.com/developer/notes/changes/changes-3.3.8 |
| 18:04.15 | logixoul | is it possible to receive replies to my emails in kde mailinglists, but not any other emails from there? |
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| 18:05.12 | Jucato | Sho_: thanks |
| 18:05.17 | Sho_ | Gotta love corner case stuff like that: |
| 18:05.19 | Sho_ | - Fixed incorrect use of colors when painting on the default (TrueColor) screen |
| 18:05.19 | Sho_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.20 | Sho_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.38 | thiago | whoa |
| 18:05.41 | thiago | 80072 fixed? |
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| 18:12.35 | gansinho | hello, please, how do I edit which commands KDE runs during my login (I'm migrating from gnome so I have a few dumb questions yet..) |
| 18:12.52 | thiago | the startkde script |
| 18:12.58 | thiago | but you generally don't want to do that |
| 18:13.02 | Jucato | ~autostart |
| 18:13.03 | apt | To start a program or set an environment variable at KDE login, see: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2560273 |
| 18:13.03 | logixoul | also, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=45975 |
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| 18:13.15 | thiago | there's the Autostart folder and there's the special env stuff |
| 18:13.19 | thiago | ah, there you go. More info. |
| 18:13.41 | sredna | gansinho: you can put any executable file in ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 18:13.50 | thiago | or .desktop files |
| 18:13.55 | pinotree | PhilRod: ping |
| 18:13.58 | Jucato | or scripts... |
| 18:14.08 | pinotree | Jucato: which was the right url of that faq? |
| 18:14.18 | thiago | Jucato: scripts are executables |
| 18:14.19 | Jucato | let me check |
| 18:14.23 | Jucato | :) |
| 18:14.30 | gansinho | oh... this is a bit different from gnome, but I can get used to it... I'm much happier with KDE |
| 18:14.36 | Jucato | pinotree: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2560261 |
| 18:14.37 | gansinho | thanks guys |
| 18:14.40 | hydrogen | of course you are |
| 18:14.47 | logixoul | np gansinho :) |
| 18:14.55 | gansinho | hydrogen: =) |
| 18:15.10 | sredna | gansinho: if you want to manipulate the invironment for KDE, put scripts in ~/.kde/env/*.sh, for example that is a good place for running sshagent or pgpagent |
| 18:15.33 | sredna | gansinho: in the other end, put scripts in ~/.kde/shutdown |
| 18:15.59 | gansinho | sredna: I just want to run a beryl command, to enable it from start |
| 18:16.11 | gansinho | I think the Autostart folder will do the job |
| 18:16.36 | logixoul | gansinho: it will, but first kwin will get launched, then it'll get killed, and just then you'll get beryl. |
| 18:16.45 | logixoul | gansinho: i couldn't find a workaround for that. |
| 18:16.45 | sredna | gansinho: yes, sounds right |
| 18:17.08 | gansinho | by the way, any of you guys know another good website (appart from kde-look.org) that has eye candy stuff?) |
| 18:17.17 | logixoul | deviantart.com |
| 18:17.21 | Jucato | gansinho: the Beryl wiki page has some instructions on how to autostart Beryl (beryl-manager) for KDE |
| 18:17.43 | logixoul | ourmedia.org |
| 18:17.47 | gansinho | Jucato: I'll take a look |
| 18:18.24 | logixoul | gansinho: Beryl wiki page talks about setting KDEWM i think, and that didn't work for me |
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| 18:19.39 | gansinho | I notived a bug in KDE when firefox opens the "broken session manager" the window is so small that I can't even change its size. Anyone noticed this ? |
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| 18:21.55 | thiago | in firefox? |
| 18:21.58 | thiago | how do I open that? |
| 18:23.25 | gansinho | thiago: open some tabs, and in a term sudo killall firefox |
| 18:23.53 | momesana | why does kwin hinder me to place widgets outside of the available screen area when I try to do this programmatically? |
| 18:24.01 | gansinho | next time you start firefox it will say that it "crashed" and will ask if you want to restore the tabs (or windows) before the crash |
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| 18:24.26 | Jucato | gansinho: Firefox 2.0 only? |
| 18:24.27 | stoned | hellp |
| 18:24.31 | stoned | ... hello |
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| 18:25.21 | thiago | gansinho: I've just tested with Firefox 2.0.0.1 and the window wasn't small |
| 18:25.25 | thiago | it was correctly sizes |
| 18:25.26 | thiago | sized |
| 18:25.39 | stoned | I am using kde 3,5,5 on debian sid and Ark will not extract ANY files (drap/drop or extract from menu/icon) it gives errors, but when I go to cli, I can use unzip/unrar etc. ALL compression formats are installed on the system |
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| 18:25.52 | stoned | could anyone help me torubleshoot |
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| 18:28.09 | stoned | correction: it extracts zip files but not rar files |
| 18:28.14 | stoned | I have rar/unrar both installed |
| 18:28.14 | Jucato | gansinho: correct size here too |
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| 18:30.40 | gansinho | Jucato: thanks... I'll try know why this is happening |
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| 18:31.42 | stoned | I found no bugs in Ark in debian sid with this behaviour |
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| 18:31.50 | stoned | bts I mean |
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| 18:32.33 | tdn | I have problems getting Konqueror to keep the view I configured it to use. I have done: View > View Mode > Detailed List and then I have saved this view profile for file browsing, but when I type something like "smb://10.0.0.50/" in the location bar, I get the large ikon view. This is really annoying. Why won't Konqueror remember my decision? |
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| 18:36.54 | stoned | well what in hell |
| 18:37.02 | stoned | I restarted kde/X and now it works |
| 18:37.10 | stoned | I thought linux didn't have to be restarted |
| 18:37.19 | stoned | did they code kde like windows or something |
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| 18:37.37 | stoned | one minute it wasn't working, I alt/crt/backspace and startx and now it works |
| 18:37.41 | stoned | mind boggling I tell ya |
| 18:41.20 | graft | stoned: um, if you installed some new libraries, obviously they have to be reloaded into memory |
| 18:42.10 | graft | the only difference between linux/windows in that respect is that in linux you don't have to reboot your entire system, you can simply reload the component that was updated |
| 18:42.36 | graft | if i rebuild my kernel, i have to reboot... if i only rebuilt a kernel module, i don't |
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| 18:49.29 | nik7 | If I hit the ThinkVantage button I get "Thinkpad Button Pressed" and then an error window: "Unable to run the command specified. The file or folder file:///usr/bin/konsole does not exist" - where to set up this? |
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| 18:55.56 | Dimitry| | nik7, in your controlcenter |
| 18:56.11 | Dimitry| | at system administration |
| 18:56.21 | Dimitry| | ibm thinkpad laptop |
| 18:57.46 | logixoul | tdn: have you tried saving the filebrowsing profile *after* opening the smb address, too? |
| 18:58.40 | nik7 | Dimitry|, oh thx; is there a way to hide this message, that the thinkpad button was pressed? |
| 18:59.43 | Dimitry| | dont know....stop the kmilo plugin...but then will no be action for the button |
| 19:00.47 | graft | i can never get kmilo working... i dunno if my thinkpad is supported |
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| 19:01.47 | stoned | graft: makes sense |
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| 19:04.01 | graft | how do i know if it does? |
| 19:04.01 | finaldo | I have had compiz-manager as my window manager for KDE... it's been so long since I've set that and have since removed compiz, but forgot what config file to update to put KWin back as my window manager... what file is it? |
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| 19:04.16 | blue|palm | Hi, is it at all possible to reduce the size of icons on your kde desktop? I cant find out how to do this :) |
| 19:04.21 | graft | my buttons don't seem to generate acpi events |
| 19:04.40 | graft | or x events... wonder if i need a different keyboard layout? |
| 19:05.09 | graft | blue|palm: should be in appearance/icons |
| 19:05.16 | graft | advanced tab |
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| 19:06.23 | blue|palm | graft: thanks |
| 19:06.26 | gansinho | hello, is there any way to have only one panel in KDE? I can't exclude none of the "main" (the ones that came by default) |
| 19:07.55 | graft | gansinho: just remove the panels you don't want |
| 19:08.00 | sredna | gansinho: you want to disable kicker? |
| 19:08.43 | graft | gansinho: you can't remove the 'main panel', but you can move it wherever you want, etc. |
| 19:09.02 | gansinho | graft: is there any way to have only one panel? |
| 19:09.24 | sredna | gansinho: the default for kicker is having one panel |
| 19:09.41 | gansinho | I can't set it, the optinon to remove it is in grey |
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| 19:10.02 | gansinho | I wanna have a dock in the botton, and just one panel in the top |
| 19:10.16 | sredna | gansinho: if you are not using kicker, you should disable it in the kde autostart configuration |
| 19:10.35 | gansinho | sredna: sorry, I'm new to KDE, what is kicker? |
| 19:10.50 | sredna | gansinho: the kde panel app |
| 19:10.52 | gansinho | I used to be a gnome user |
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| 19:11.10 | tdn | logixoul, no. But I don't think that's the problem either. I have the same problem, if I open a new tab and write "~". Then I get my homedir in large icons. |
| 19:11.22 | gansinho | but if I disable it I'll have one panel or none? |
| 19:11.41 | sredna | gansinho: you can put the main panel in the top, and just put what ever applets you want in it |
| 19:11.47 | sredna | none |
| 19:12.05 | graft | gansinho: you want a dock in the bottom and one panel in the top - so put your kicker panel on top, create a child panel on the bottom and make it your dock |
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| 19:12.23 | graft | gansinho: or if you don't want a panel dock, run whatever dock app you want |
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| 19:14.36 | gansinho | graft: I already have the dock (avant, is developing pretty wuick and its really nice) I'm about to put the main dock (the larger one that cames with the big K) over the top one and take all the menus from the one that will be behind it |
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| 19:15.21 | gansinho | my english is pretty bad, so maybe I cannot express me the better way |
| 19:15.25 | graft | gansinho: i suggest moving the menus and buttons first, before you move the panel - otherwise it'll be annoyingly difficult |
| 19:15.26 | gansinho | sorry for that |
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| 19:31.10 | Gwyth | WWhat program is KDE's usual DVD player, please? |
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| 19:31.31 | wolsni | Gwyth: i'd say kaffeine |
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| 19:32.00 | Gwyth | thanks wolsni. |
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| 19:37.51 | stoned | clear |
| 19:37.53 | Aardwolf | I think the KDE crash handler needs work. Currently, it's just a window that says only this: "handle this crash!" without any explanation that there actually happened a crash. Instead it should say something like "I'm sorry, but program X crashed. I can handle this". |
| 19:37.56 | stoned | oops |
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| 19:39.04 | stoned | clear |
| 19:39.06 | stoned | fuck |
| 19:39.34 | PhilRod | Aardwolf: you've got the code! :-) |
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| 19:44.12 | PhilRod | Aardwolf: wait, doesn't it say "The application <x> crashed and caused the signal <y>. etc"? |
| 19:44.55 | annma | Aardwolf: can you take a screenshot? |
| 19:45.15 | Jucato | wow! haven't been up this late/early since December :) |
| 19:45.30 | annma | yes, you're bad |
| 19:45.43 | Jucato | hhahah |
| 19:46.10 | Jucato | I have something to attend to in 1.5 hours... so I preferred not to sleep rather than wake up late :) |
| 19:46.25 | annma | in the middle fot he night? |
| 19:46.33 | annma | of the |
| 19:46.36 | Jucato | 5:30 AM to be exact :) |
| 19:46.42 | annma | wow |
| 19:46.50 | Aardwolf | ok wait I'll try to reproduce the crash :) |
| 19:46.52 | annma | that's early |
| 19:46.57 | annma | so when will you sleep? |
| 19:46.59 | Jucato | wanna know what the even is? |
| 19:47.03 | Jucato | after the event |
| 19:47.03 | annma | yes |
| 19:47.15 | Jucato | A friend's wedding in Second Life :) |
| 19:47.24 | annma | oh!!! |
| 19:47.29 | annma | are you serious |
| 19:47.30 | Jucato | I'm one of the groomsmen lol |
| 19:47.39 | Jucato | I'm not. but my friend is ;) |
| 19:47.41 | annma | I hope you put a tie |
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| 19:47.51 | Jucato | yep. full tux :) |
| 19:47.58 | annma | lol :) nice |
| 19:48.05 | Jucato | hehe |
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| 19:48.22 | Aardwolf | PhilRod, true, it does indeed say it, I guess it's fine then, unless maybe someone agrees that it could be somewhat more clear, oh well, I'll not say anything about it anymore |
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| 19:55.17 | Gwyth | What's the name of kde's app that is responsible for the sound volume on the desktop, please? |
| 19:55.33 | graft | kmix |
| 19:55.33 | texnofob1x | kmix |
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| 19:55.41 | texnofob1x | dang beat me |
| 19:55.45 | Gwyth | thank you! |
| 19:56.21 | graft | better recognize, texnofob1x |
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| 19:56.47 | texnofobix | dumb schools resetting firewalls :( |
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| 19:59.03 | graft | i find kaffeine unnecessarily weighty |
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| 19:59.17 | graft | like bringing out a rocket launcher to finish off a bug |
| 20:00.14 | texnofobix | lol |
| 20:00.23 | texnofobix | i use kmplayer |
| 20:00.57 | graft | i use mplayer |
| 20:01.07 | graft | instant gratification |
| 20:01.15 | PhilRod | hiya Jucato :-) |
| 20:01.16 | PhilRod | </lag> |
| 20:01.17 | graft | plus, who needs that 'playlists' crap? |
| 20:01.21 | Jucato | lol |
| 20:01.46 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:03.14 | texnofobix | graft: thats like saying i use lynx b/c who needs those graphics |
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| 20:04.17 | charles_ | Hello, I've got a problem. My KDE somehow doesn't see my scsi DVDRW (/dev/sr0). It's not showed in the media directory. Any way to force it to work? Kde 3.5.6 |
| 20:04.17 | texnofobix | :P |
| 20:04.18 | graft | texnofobix: it's the video i care about, anyway... mplayer's controls are way better/more intuitive than most gui controls |
| 20:04.27 | graft | texnofobix: and i don't have to look at any ugly crowded buttons/menus |
| 20:04.45 | texnofobix | i know |
| 20:04.51 | texnofobix | i'm just joking with you |
| 20:05.27 | graft | oh... sorry, i have this syndrome where i'm unable to appreciate humor over the internet |
| 20:06.02 | texnofobix | :( |
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| 20:06.34 | texnofobix | i'm waiting on knetworkmanager 0.2 |
| 20:06.37 | texnofobix | :\ |
| 20:08.28 | graft | what's wrong with the current one? |
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| 20:08.40 | graft | other than the fact that it's busted |
| 20:08.56 | graft | (currently unable to recognize that i have an active wireless device) |
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| 20:42.23 | tdn | In Krita, how do I make a marquee/selection that is exactly 1400x1050 (or some other specified values), and then rotate it? I need this so I can make the horizon horizontal on some photographs where it is skewed a few degrees. |
| 20:44.34 | sredna | tdn: i'd use showfoto for that, it has a specialized free rotation tool |
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| 20:47.40 | tdn | sredna, ok. Is that a K-progrma? |
| 20:47.46 | tdn | sredna, program even. |
| 20:48.04 | sredna | tdn: it's the image editor/viewer that comes wtih digikam |
| 20:48.10 | tdn | sredna, but I still need how to do the selection part. |
| 20:48.12 | tdn | sredna, ok. |
| 20:48.40 | sredna | tdn: in my copy of krita, there is no way to select precicely, all i can do is watch the status line |
| 20:48.49 | sredna | (koffice 1.6.1) |
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| 20:49.16 | tdn | sredna, ok :( |
| 20:49.30 | tdn | sredna, which image editing tool lets me do that besides Photoshop? |
| 20:49.48 | TobiasTheCommie | hm, minor problem here. Plain X(no DE) deadkeys works fine, but they don't work in any kde or qt applications. I've done a lot of googling but i have been unable to find a solution to this |
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| 20:49.55 | TobiasTheCommie | any ideas? |
| 20:49.56 | sredna | tdn: in showfoto you can edit the selection very precicely, either by using a selection or a crop tool |
| 20:50.29 | sredna | TobiasTheCommie: select the correct keyboard layout in the KDE keyboard configuration |
| 20:50.55 | TobiasTheCommie | sredna: do i really need to specify a specific layout for kde? it can't just use the one for X? |
| 20:51.13 | TobiasTheCommie | because when i do that, all my keymappings are broken. As in, my alt gr key gets turend into enter |
| 20:51.23 | sredna | TobiasTheCommie: just make sure the correct one is selected in the kde config |
| 20:51.43 | TobiasTheCommie | sredna: done and done, still results in totally foobared layout |
| 20:51.55 | sredna | TobiasTheCommie: sounds strange |
| 20:52.19 | sredna | do you have a very special keyboard (layout)? |
| 20:52.21 | TobiasTheCommie | yup. |
| 20:52.25 | TobiasTheCommie | nope, standard danish layout |
| 20:53.07 | sredna | including dead keys |
| 20:54.00 | TobiasTheCommie | and arrow keys are frelled as well |
| 20:54.25 | TobiasTheCommie | i believe that part is due to evdev though |
| 20:54.36 | TobiasTheCommie | come to think of it :) |
| 20:54.54 | sredna | evdev? |
| 20:55.11 | TobiasTheCommie | i'll try without evdev in a bit |
| 20:55.19 | TobiasTheCommie | i guess i've been stupid |
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| 20:55.28 | sredna | is your keyboard model set correctly? |
| 20:55.50 | TobiasTheCommie | sredna: evdev is a device driver in the xorg.conf file used for advanced mice(primarily) and lately also multimedia keyboards |
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| 20:56.43 | TobiasTheCommie | thanks for the reflection, was just what i needed to realize my own stupidity :) |
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| 20:59.33 | sredna | :-) |
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| 21:00.47 | guinux | Hello ! |
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| 21:01.37 | hume | hi....I'm trying to design a database with kexi - is this a place to ask about this? I am having problems with queries |
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| 21:02.01 | XVampireX | kdetalk down?! |
| 21:02.08 | pinotree | no |
| 21:02.18 | XVampireX | Then why can't I get in there? |
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| 21:02.58 | PhilRod | hume: try us. I don't know if there are any kexi users here though |
| 21:03.09 | PhilRod | hi guinux |
| 21:03.20 | guinux | I'm running KDE-3.5.6 ( gentoo ) and I have noticed that tooltips don't work on applets ( like kweather and moon ) *after* the main menu was open to select an entry... |
| 21:03.49 | hume | It seems that in kexi relations between tables in the query window becomes one-to-all, is there a way to set it to one-to-one instead? |
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| 21:04.40 | hume | knoda |
| 21:04.40 | guinux | then, after going to kcontrol, Appearance & themes, style and doing uncheck and then check back on the "Enable tooltips", then tooltips start working again on applets... |
| 21:04.47 | hume | sorry |
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| 21:05.58 | wolferine | someone able to help me setup my samba shares? |
| 21:06.22 | wolferine | i want to have my /home dir available on my linux box for my win box |
| 21:06.50 | wolferine | can I get a pm of the lines i would add into my smb.conf to do that? |
| 21:06.53 | PhilRod | wolferine: best place to ask is #yourdistro |
| 21:07.00 | wolferine | hmm |
| 21:07.05 | wolferine | fine |
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| 21:10.34 | Ze_M | when kde4 will be officially released? |
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| 21:11.22 | guinux | Ze_M: http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-4.0-release-plan.html |
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| 21:12.02 | guinux | http://dot.kde.org/1171453163/ |
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| 21:12.33 | pinotree | Ze_M: there's no planned date yet |
| 21:12.49 | Ze_M | pinotree: butwill be this year? |
| 21:12.49 | etheri | hmm, is there a keystroke+mouse wheel combo or something for adjusting window opacity with transucency enabled? |
| 21:12.55 | pinotree | we hope so |
| 21:13.03 | zak_ | what will be the difference between kde4 et kde 3.5.5 |
| 21:14.01 | Ze_M | zak_: kde-3.5.6 is already out |
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| 21:14.26 | zak_ | yes i know but it a bug fixer version? |
| 21:14.28 | zak_ | right? |
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| 21:14.46 | Sho_ | It does have some small new features, too |
| 21:14.52 | zak_ | really? |
| 21:14.56 | Sho_ | Yup |
| 21:15.10 | Sho_ | e.g. templates in KMail or the Kate Session Menu kicker applet / KMenu extension |
| 21:15.26 | zak_ | didnt knwo that thats why i m still o n3.5.5 wiating for new hard disk to install suse 10.2 and kde 3..5.6 |
| 21:15.27 | Sho_ | see http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_5to3_5_6.php |
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| 21:15.52 | Ze_M | Sho_: when closing session sometimes kicker crashes... |
| 21:15.58 | zak_ | are all the users here , at least most of them are developpers of kde? |
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| 21:16.06 | Ze_M | or konqueror, or kmail... |
| 21:16.09 | Sho_ | Ze_M: File a bug, ideally with a backtrace |
| 21:16.09 | zak_ | Ze_M: i sometimes get this |
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| 21:16.32 | zak_ | Sho_: ia m really new to linux , what is a backtrace? |
| 21:16.35 | Sho_ | zak_: If you mean #kde, most people here are users and some are developers |
| 21:16.36 | Ze_M | Sho_: i never a valid backtrace... |
| 21:16.41 | Ze_M | Sho_: i never get a valid backtrace... |
| 21:16.56 | durand | #java |
| 21:17.10 | durand | irc://irc.freenode.org:6667/java |
| 21:17.14 | pinotree | durand: no |
| 21:17.22 | durand | :-( |
| 21:17.28 | pinotree | no spam please |
| 21:17.36 | durand | ok |
| 21:17.42 | zak_ | Sho_: was on windows all my life than move to linux suse few months ago , i cant believe all the fonctionality of kde |
| 21:17.45 | zak_ | really wonderful |
| 21:17.56 | Sho_ | glad you like it |
| 21:17.58 | guinux | Could be possible to have the Window Background's color to be colored with not only one color but with a ( horizontal ) gradient ? |
| 21:18.07 | zak_ | Sho_: i dont like it |
| 21:18.12 | zak_ | i loooooooooooooooooooooooove it :D |
| 21:19.02 | zak_ | s |
| 21:19.10 | Sho_ | zak_: A "backtrace" is a record of what an application did leading up to a crash, which can help with finding out why it crashed. KDE has a Crash Handler dialog that appears when an app crashed, which has a "Backtrace" tab that generates one. It's recommended to attach the contents of a tab to bug reports. |
| 21:19.20 | graft | guinux: can't do it, nope |
| 21:19.52 | zak_ | Sho_: so that developpers can correct this i nthe next versions |
| 21:19.53 | zak_ | right? |
| 21:20.13 | guinux | graft: is there any plan to got it done ? |
| 21:20.20 | Sho_ | zak_: yup |
| 21:20.28 | zak_ | got it man : thanxs |
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| 21:21.18 | graft | guinux: doubt it. it would be pretty ugly, i think |
| 21:21.58 | zak_ | just wanna know how kde developpers work , i mean they are not i na lab like the fu... staff of microsoft , siince it s acontributions of various developpers from various countries |
| 21:21.59 | graft | guinux: also hard to apply across many different widgets, etc. |
| 21:22.11 | guinux | graft: what part/component/library/etc of KDE should be needed to change it to have it implemente ? |
| 21:22.22 | zak_ | is there any international meetingor conference that unites the kde developpers ? |
| 21:22.23 | graft | zak_: lots of KDE development is concentrated in places |
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| 21:22.46 | guinux | s/implemente/implemented/ |
| 21:23.15 | graft | guinux: not sure... i suspect some basic KDE widget... not sure what widgets use 'window background' property |
| 21:23.30 | zak_ | excuse my ignorance man , but iam coming fro mwinodws world , microsoft, so i know that al the sataff there works there then decide what to do and how to release the next version |
| 21:23.42 | zak_ | sure linux /kde is not that way? |
| 21:23.52 | guinux | graft: isn't it the kwm ? |
| 21:24.15 | graft | zak_: yeah... it's not quite like that, but it's definitely organized... there's a specific team, they have an internal structure, decision making process, etc. |
| 21:24.22 | zak_ | i mean there s no company called KDE , whose mission is to develop kde |
| 21:24.24 | zak_ | right? |
| 21:24.31 | graft | guinux: kwin? i doubt it |
| 21:24.42 | zak_ | ah ok:) |
| 21:25.44 | zak_ | fu... windows and microsoft and all the ideas glued in a windows user |
| 21:25.53 | zak_ | fu... windows and microsoft and all the ideas glued in a windows user' mind |
| 21:26.10 | guinux | graft: ok... I'll take a look at basic KDE widgets... =) |
| 21:26.27 | PhilRod | zak_: most of the work and collaboration is done over the internet, but there are quite a few small local meetings, and an annual whole-of-kde meeting called aKademy. See http://conference2006.kde.org for last year's, and http://conference2007.kde.org for this year's |
| 21:27.11 | zak_ | wow it s in ireland |
| 21:27.14 | PhilRod | Sho_: is there a way to stop konversation doing highlighting on messages from the server? (eg, "topic set by PhilRod on ...") |
| 21:27.21 | PhilRod | zak_: that was last year :-) |
| 21:27.28 | zak_ | aha |
| 21:27.39 | zak_ | so every year is changing :) |
| 21:28.12 | zak_ | i took a look at the FOSDEM website i thought it was like it ;) |
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| 21:28.51 | Sho_ | PhilRod: That particular change is in current SVN |
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| 21:30.32 | shadok | http://wiki.kde.org/KDE+4+Goals is that page up to date ? |
| 21:30.41 | PhilRod | shadok: no, AFAIK |
| 21:30.45 | PhilRod | Sho_: oh, cool. |
| 21:31.02 | shadok | and i suppose there isn't one more up to date ? |
| 21:31.52 | Sho_ | shadok: Updating websites tends to lose out against coding ;) |
| 21:32.09 | shadok | hehe i prefer that than the inverse :) |
| 21:32.52 | shadok | (maybe this sentence should have "rather" in it) |
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| 21:34.56 | zak_ | PhilRod: what about accomdation this year? |
| 21:35.38 | zak_ | talking about akademy 2007 sure ;) |
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| 21:36.02 | PhilRod | zak_: I dont' know (haven't checked). But I expect there will be university accommodation available |
| 21:36.32 | zak_ | i found this in akademy2006 but not in the 2007 one |
| 21:37.08 | Tm_T | I really really hope I can make to Akademy this year. |
| 21:37.38 | Tm_T | There's slight possibility to get sponsor pay tickets near enough. |
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| 21:41.34 | PhilRod | oops, misclick - sorry Tm_T |
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| 21:42.45 | Tm_T | PhilRod: ? |
| 21:42.59 | Tm_T | What misclick? |
| 21:43.09 | Tm_T | Aah, you littl! |
| 21:43.12 | Tm_T | +e |
| 21:43.16 | PhilRod | hit the wrong button in konvi and ctcp pinged you instead of whois |
| 21:43.28 | Tm_T | See, you're eating my letters too now! :O |
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| 21:47.00 | PhilRod | tasty! |
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| 21:49.41 | Tm_T | PhilRod: Ofcourse, it's my letters afterall ;) |
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| 21:52.12 | PhilRod | hehe |
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| 21:56.00 | don | #sabayon |
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| 22:02.02 | rabauke | Hello! When dragging an item, clicking the right mouse-button should abort the dragging, should it not? |
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| 22:11.46 | logixoul | tdn: hmm, that's happened to me and i fixed it by somehow messing with the profiles, but i don't remember how |
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| 22:14.22 | logixoul | rabauke: yes, that would be nice, but it doesn't work like that currently |
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| 22:16.05 | pankey | does konqueror support ctrl+enter? |
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| 22:18.17 | PhilRod | pankey: well, you can set Ctrl+Enter to do something, but it depends what you want to do |
| 22:18.25 | rabauke | logixoul: was it not that way? I thought it was, but maybe I am mistaken. |
| 22:18.32 | pankey | adding www. and .com |
| 22:18.44 | pankey | just like all the other browsers :< |
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| 22:21.13 | Renze | ah, conformity... |
| 22:21.36 | pankey | well im not saying it should be like every other. just something im used to :/ |
| 22:22.09 | pankey | i keep hearing a glass break everytime i try and go to a webpage lol |
| 22:23.09 | graft | hmm... ever notice how the obvious websites for some thing really suck? |
| 22:23.19 | graft | e.g. funny.com isn't very |
| 22:23.33 | PhilRod | gotta be an LCD effect |
| 22:23.46 | PhilRod | (lowest common denominator, rather than liquid crystal display) |
| 22:23.49 | graft | almost like there's no relationship between quality and domain name, and there's really no actual value in the domain |
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| 22:25.34 | pankey | hrm. is thumbnail previews part of kde or beryl? |
| 22:25.35 | pankey | wtf |
| 22:25.53 | graft | beryl |
| 22:25.53 | Renze | which thumbnails? |
| 22:25.58 | pankey | oh |
| 22:26.10 | pankey | thumbnails of apps in the kicker |
| 22:26.16 | graft | you mean live thumbnails, right? |
| 22:26.16 | pankey | when u hover over them |
| 22:26.17 | Renze | yep, that's beryl |
| 22:26.18 | pankey | yea |
| 22:26.25 | pankey | heh had me fooled |
| 22:27.12 | graft | i don't understand why that's a useful feature |
| 22:27.39 | graft | i get that it's like, obligatory feature cloning |
| 22:27.41 | Renze | most eye-candy isn't useful |
| 22:27.50 | pankey | when your too lazy to alt tab lol |
| 22:28.01 | graft | that makes no sense |
| 22:28.05 | pankey | i use it to check is a terminal is done compiling |
| 22:28.19 | pankey | its easier to hover the mouse then to press alt tab |
| 22:28.21 | graft | that requires moving the mouse... alt-tab does not |
| 22:28.43 | graft | i mean it's as easy for me to hit alt-tab as it is to type 'duh' |
| 22:28.54 | Renze | duh |
| 22:28.55 | pankey | o well 90% of the time im gaming on my desktop and dont have the hands on the keyboard |
| 22:28.58 | Renze | yep, that's easy |
| 22:29.10 | graft | gaming? |
| 22:29.15 | graft | you mean minesweeper? |
| 22:29.25 | Renze | gay ming? ming the merciless is gay? |
| 22:29.31 | pankey | no ut2004, sro |
| 22:29.34 | pankey | -_- |
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| 22:30.20 | kirun | what, not bzflag, fillets or enigma? |
| 22:30.32 | pankey | nah windows games |
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| 22:30.59 | graft | i just discovered bungie released the whole marathon trilogy like six years ago and some dude made an SDL port of it |
| 22:31.19 | MinceR | whoa |
| 22:31.21 | MinceR | url? |
| 22:31.28 | pankey | heh |
| 22:31.40 | graft | source.bungie.org |
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| 22:41.32 | Roey | hello |
| 22:41.33 | Roey | :) |
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| 22:43.12 | solus | in kwrite, If I want to replace every tab with a newline, how do I do that? |
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| 22:43.30 | solus | replacing \t with \n (regular expression ticked) doesn't work |
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| 22:46.56 | XVampireX | REX rocks |
| 22:47.16 | Roey | hi XVampireX |
| 22:47.18 | Roey | :) |
| 22:47.35 | XVampireX | HI |
| 22:47.50 | XVampireX | Roey: אתה צריך ללכת מפה... זה לא מקום לזבל |
| 22:48.01 | solus | XVampireX: that looks like a graphical tool to edit regular expressions |
| 22:48.02 | XVampireX | sori |
| 22:48.11 | graft | hebrew? |
| 22:48.17 | XVampireX | No, REX = Regular Expressions |
| 22:48.17 | solus | its not exactly a big expression, just s/\t/\n/g |
| 22:48.24 | graft | how do you type in utf anyway? |
| 22:48.35 | XVampireX | I'm pretty random |
| 22:48.39 | XVampireX | I just type |
| 22:48.41 | Roey | XVampireX :) it's harder to read when it's backwards |
| 22:48.46 | Roey | using mIRC here, just installed it, arg |
| 22:48.48 | solus | XVampireX: ok, yea, they rock, now how do I get them in kwrite? |
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| 22:50.10 | XVampireX | I don't think you can |
| 22:50.27 | XVampireX | or make a plugin for it |
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| 22:54.19 | Freddy2 | hi |
| 22:54.49 | Freddy2 | is there any KIO for automatically tunneling http over ssh in konqueror? |
| 22:55.22 | Freddy2 | well, not KIO but IOSlave |
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| 22:59.19 | phoenixz | Hi there, how can I make a screen shot in KDE? |
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| 22:59.29 | Renze | ksnapshot |
| 22:59.33 | Roey | doh |
| 22:59.38 | phoenixz | Renze: Thanks |
| 22:59.40 | Roey | Renze: you beat me to it |
| 22:59.42 | Renze | no problem |
| 22:59.47 | nick01 | does kde 3.5.6 still use arts for the sound system ? |
| 22:59.56 | Renze | mine doesn't ;) |
| 23:00.25 | graft | not if you're smart, nick01 |
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| 23:01.29 | nick01 | graft: is it still required to get system sounds ? and don't tell me you can use aplay for that cause in gentoo for 3.5.5 if you compile it without arts that doesn';t work either |
| 23:01.53 | Sho_ | nick01: It will work in 3.5.6 |
| 23:02.08 | Renze | nick01: I have kde compiled without arts, and I use play for system notifications and it works fine |
| 23:02.12 | tsb | In Akregator, the color for unread articles are always blue. this mixes very bad with my colortheme (it's barely readable). I want it to just have the same color as links do.. how do I fix this? |
| 23:02.26 | Sho_ | nick01: A working KNotify without arts is one of the changes in 3.5.6 |
| 23:02.44 | Renze | Sho_: it was in 3.5.5-rX as well |
| 23:02.48 | graft | you can always build with arts and disable it... |
| 23:02.52 | Sho_ | Renze: Possibly, but not upstream |
| 23:02.56 | nick01 | Sho_: so I'll need to configure it with aplay ? |
| 23:02.58 | Sho_ | Renze: It's in KDE now |
| 23:03.05 | Sho_ | nick01: or picoxine or something similar |
| 23:03.08 | Renze | Sho_: yes, it was a gentoo backport |
| 23:03.27 | nick01 | tks |
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| 23:03.31 | Sho_ | Renze: yup, I chat with Diego semi-regularly about the KDE stuff |
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| 23:06.01 | rokfit | If I restart the computer all messages in KMails trash bin get removed, or are not there, is there a workaround or fix for this? |
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| 23:06.53 | Sho_ | rokfit: Settings -> Configure KMail -> Misc -> Empty local trash folder on program exit |
| 23:07.27 | rokfit | oh thank you Sho_ |
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| 23:15.14 | Freddy2 | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141716 |
| 23:15.24 | Freddy2 | well, finally i've added a feature request |
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| 23:33.57 | wolferine | where does kde keep the settings for the firewall!?! |
| 23:34.18 | Renze | kde doesn't have a firewall... that's a job for the OS |
| 23:34.26 | Renze | kde is just a desktop environment |
| 23:34.33 | wolferine | ok, so just set in iptables? |
| 23:34.39 | Renze | yes |
| 23:34.49 | Roey | well then he means to ask if KDE has a utility to configure the firewall, Renze |
| 23:35.05 | Renze | there are several front-ends on kde-apps.org |
| 23:35.11 | Renze | none ship with kde officially |
| 23:35.33 | Roey | yeah :) |
| 23:35.37 | wolferine | well, KDE came with mandriva, so maybe something will be added in the install? |
| 23:35.56 | wolferine | cause iptables looks like ALOT of work |
| 23:35.57 | Roey | kmyfirewall |
| 23:35.58 | Roey | I think |
| 23:35.59 | shadok | kmyfirewall |
| 23:36.03 | Renze | no idea... I know nothing about mandriva |
| 23:36.06 | Roey | woohoo! I was right! |
| 23:36.09 | Roey | thanks shadok |
| 23:36.33 | Roey | wolferine: itpables just takes a little learning but then it's not that big a deal.. #iptables :) |
| 23:36.44 | wolferine | haha |
| 23:36.44 | shadok | i never installed it but its name is pretty straightforward |
| 23:36.59 | wolferine | its never easy to do anything in linux |
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| 23:37.35 | shadok | fwbuilder is cool too and in qt now |
| 23:37.41 | Renze | wolferine: I disagree... I think many things are easier to do in Linux than in Windows |
| 23:37.44 | wolferine | i have a firewall, hardware, so the software one is unnecessary |
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| 23:38.02 | wolferine | renze that was my opinion, and you have yours |
| 23:38.18 | wolferine | but I dont know how to get rid of it/open all ports |
| 23:38.31 | wolferine | so I am just working on getting just one to open |
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| 23:39.04 | Renze | iptables -F will flush all rules |
| 23:39.09 | wolferine | yeah |
| 23:39.14 | wolferine | i have looked at it |
| 23:40.01 | wolferine | ps |
| 23:40.03 | wolferine | ops |
| 23:40.29 | Renze | if you want to disable the firewall in mandriva, you should ask in #mandriva |
| 23:40.40 | ccd | When I double click .flv files in krusader the "remember this selecion" checkbox in "open with" is missing... I checked the settings and I cant seem to figure it out. |
| 23:41.05 | Renze | ccd: that checkbox is only available if there is a mimetype for the file |
| 23:41.23 | ccd | so i need to ass a mimetype? |
| 23:41.29 | Renze | ccd: yes |
| 23:41.30 | ccd | ass=add ;-) |
| 23:41.36 | atoi | haha |
| 23:41.46 | atoi | I'd be interested to see how you "ass a mimetype" |
| 23:41.47 | ccd | what file do I edit? |
| 23:42.00 | Renze | ccd: kcontrol -> kde components -> file associations |
| 23:42.05 | Renze | no need to edit any files |
| 23:42.12 | Renze | just add one in there |
| 23:42.13 | ccd | right! thanks! |
| 23:42.24 | Renze | no problem |
| 23:42.26 | ccd | too easy |
| 23:44.21 | foxbunny_ | hi all |
| 23:44.27 | foxbunny_ | I have a question about KWrite |
| 23:44.56 | foxbunny_ | What does "Show Scrollbar Marks" do/mean? |
| 23:44.56 | XVampireX | Make it quick |
| 23:45.13 | XVampireX | scrollbar, know that? |
| 23:45.18 | foxbunny_ | yeah |
| 23:45.32 | XVampireX | marks... something that marks something |
| 23:45.44 | foxbunny_ | I don't see any difference with that option checked |
| 23:46.00 | XVampireX | Ok |
| 23:46.03 | XVampireX | Well I have no idea what it is |
| 23:46.15 | foxbunny_ | lol |
| 23:46.49 | foxbunny_ | I thought I knew what it means until I actually clicked... handbook just says it will show some 'marks' on the vertical scrollbars.... |
| 23:47.26 | foxbunny_ | I'm translating the GUI but it's hard with such obscure definitions and unclear (?) function |
| 23:47.40 | XVampireX | Ah |
| 23:48.03 | foxbunny_ | All I know is that the current translation may be wrong... :) |
| 23:48.17 | foxbunny_ | Maybe even original is wrong... lol |
| 23:49.10 | foxbunny_ | One more quick one... |
| 23:49.33 | foxbunny_ | In the phrase "Conquer your Desktop", the Desktop is the whole environment, right? |
| 23:50.02 | graft | foxbunny_: try setting a bookmark |
| 23:50.15 | foxbunny_ | graft: ah I see. |
| 23:50.20 | foxbunny_ | graft: thx |
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| 23:52.05 | foxbunny_ | hate to admit, but my native language has no adequate word for scrollbars... lolz |
| 23:52.20 | KDEdible | what word do you use |
| 23:52.40 | graft | speaking of which, did MS deliberately choose to go with the whole 'sailing on the high seas of the internet' theme for naming IE, or was it just their reflexive habit of imitation kicking in? |
| 23:53.02 | foxbunny_ | we use a phrase that says something like "strips for moving"... the prob is that there is no word for scrolling. |
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| 23:53.28 | KDEdible | haha |
| 23:53.33 | KDEdible | strips for moving... i like i |
| 23:53.37 | KDEdible | it* |
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| 23:53.53 | graft | what about sliding? |
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| 23:54.25 | foxbunny_ | yeah, we do have a word for that... but it is the same word used for slipping.... |
| 23:54.52 | foxbunny_ | I think scrollbars were called sliders once... |
| 23:55.07 | foxbunny_ | could revert to that (if others would agree, that is) |
| 23:55.12 | graft | seems fine to me |
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| 23:55.35 | foxbunny_ | graft: haha, you don't know until you speak my lingo :) |
| 23:55.59 | foxbunny_ | graft: would probably get scared by how bad the translations are |
| 23:57.16 | shadok | what does enable the logout menu to display hibernate/suspend options ? i already have the option "show more options in logout menu" (somthing like that) in kcontrol but i think i'm lacking a package, kpowersave maybe ? |
| 23:57.34 | Renze | shadok: you have to be using kdm |
| 23:57.46 | shadok | erf ok |
| 23:57.47 | shadok | thx |
| 23:57.47 | Renze | although I believe gdm supports those options now |
| 23:57.58 | foxbunny_ | any KWrite devs here? |
| 23:58.09 | JohnFlux | foxbunny_: #kde-devel |
| 23:58.14 | foxbunny_ | thx |
| 23:58.28 | shadok | ah :) i only use gdm (i have a theme i like very in it) and it is not present, i'll see in its config :) |
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| 23:58.46 | Renze | shadok: kdm supports gdm themes, I believe |
| 23:58.59 | shadok | rhoo :D |
| 23:59.05 | shadok | i'll check that |