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| 01:08.00 | maddoxeric | my mouse and keyboard don't work at the login screen anymore |
| 01:08.02 | maddoxeric | what happened |
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| 01:15.17 | Asusanator | Did you recently reinstall xorg ? |
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| 01:31.54 | maddoxeric | i did change some setting in the suse control panel |
| 01:33.06 | maddoxeric | i fixed it |
| 01:33.37 | maddoxeric | i overwrite the xorg.conf file with the xorg.conf.install file |
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| 01:38.42 | AbsTradELic | how to use KMid ? |
| 01:38.52 | AbsTradELic | I dont hear nothing |
| 01:39.03 | AbsTradELic | midfile.mid |
| 01:39.06 | AbsTradELic | ??? |
| 01:43.32 | Renze | does your soundcard have a soundbank loaded? |
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| 01:44.56 | Renze | you might want to check to see if midi files play with any other apps before you blame KDE |
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| 01:45.43 | astronut | anyone here work on krename? |
| 01:46.19 | astronut | i have a suggestion for a plugin - sanatize filenames - will remove chars that won't fit on $TARGET_FILESYSTEM (ex: fat32)... the reason is, i store my music collection on ext3, but it will also go on my fat32 music player |
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| 01:48.11 | AbsTradELic | Renze: alsa configured |
| 01:48.19 | Renze | AbsTradELic: I didn't ask that |
| 01:48.38 | AbsTradELic | Renze: have |
| 01:48.45 | Renze | AbsTradELic: does your physical sound card have a sound bank loaded onto it for midi playback. Alsa doesn't do that for you |
| 01:49.10 | AbsTradELic | huM |
| 01:49.21 | AbsTradELic | how I do ? |
| 01:49.31 | Renze | for example, in my startup, I have this command: asfxload /usr/share/sfbank/8MBGMSFX.SF2 |
| 01:50.09 | AbsTradELic | Renze: but its KDE only ? |
| 01:50.15 | Renze | that command will likely not work for you, because of differing distros... but you need to find a soundbank for your sound card (check the installation cd) and install asfxload |
| 01:50.21 | Renze | it has nothing to do with KDE |
| 01:50.35 | Renze | it has to do with Linux |
| 01:50.43 | AbsTradELic | ok |
| 01:51.26 | AbsTradELic | Renze: didn't exist kernel module to do it? |
| 01:51.32 | Renze | no |
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| 01:51.53 | AbsTradELic | ok |
| 01:52.47 | AbsTradELic | fluid ? |
| 01:53.17 | Renze | fluid is a software midi emulator, like timidity++... if you want to use the midi hardware on your soundcard, you need a soundbank loaded |
| 01:53.24 | astronut | anyone work on krename? i have a suggestion for a plugin - sanatize filenames - will remove chars that won't fit on $TARGET_FILESYSTEM (ex: fat32)... the reason is, i store my music collection on ext3, but it will also go on my fat32 music player |
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| 01:59.30 | AbsTradELic | Renze: all in cd is to windows |
| 02:00.14 | Renze | AbsTradELic: you're not installing anything... you need to search that CD for a soundbank. the name depends on what kind of sound card you have. |
| 02:01.08 | AbsTradELic | via VT82xx |
| 02:01.24 | Renze | sorry, I don't know what that card uses |
| 02:01.57 | AbsTradELic | on-board Via ChipSet VT82xx |
| 02:02.11 | Renze | is it SoundBlaster compatible? |
| 02:02.15 | AbsTradELic | yes |
| 02:02.33 | Renze | then look for a file ending in .SF2 |
| 02:02.43 | AbsTradELic | where? |
| 02:02.51 | Renze | I don't know... I can't see your CD |
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| 02:03.09 | AbsTradELic | motherboard cd? |
| 02:03.27 | drzoot | anyone know the name of that gnome based vector graphics program, or the name of a decent kde based vector graphics program |
| 02:03.42 | Renze | AbsTradELic: there might be one on there if you're lucky, otherwise you'll probably want to settle for software midi emulation like timidity++ |
| 02:04.13 | Renze | drzoot: karbon14 (part of koffice) for kde, or inkscape for gnome |
| 02:04.31 | drzoot | Renze: now i remember :D thanks for that |
| 02:04.38 | Renze | drzoot: no problem |
| 02:08.11 | AbsTradELic | Renze: and arts ? |
| 02:08.25 | Renze | AbsTradELic: arts has nothing to do with midi |
| 02:08.39 | AbsTradELic | ok |
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| 02:44.31 | AbsTradELic | I really dont know to hear a single mid file !!! |
| 02:44.45 | AbsTradELic | how I hear a single mid file????? |
| 02:45.16 | AbsTradELic | is mid obsolete? |
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| 02:46.55 | caffei | AbsTradELic, are you using timidity with timidity-patches (or whatever your dist calls it) installed? |
| 02:47.04 | caffei | and yeah, midis are somewhat obsolete |
| 02:47.41 | AbsTradELic | caffei: midis are not obsolete ! |
| 02:47.47 | AbsTradELic | X:) |
| 02:47.52 | caffei | AbsTradELic, sure they are ;D |
| 02:48.09 | AbsTradELic | the only obsolete here is windows |
| 02:48.58 | AbsTradELic | its a absurd |
| 02:49.09 | AbsTradELic | a little mid |
| 02:49.19 | AbsTradELic | its a absurd |
| 02:49.39 | AbsTradELic | 2 hours to hear and nothing |
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| 02:52.59 | apachedude | two questions: is kde 4.0 still on track for a release this fall, and how long after its release will it take to get ported to windows, if there are any such plans? |
| 02:54.26 | rohanpm | apachedude: I believe the plan is for it to work in Windows with the initial 4.0 release |
| 02:55.20 | apachedude | great |
| 02:55.38 | apachedude | i use both OS's, so this would certainly help compatibility |
| 02:56.50 | AbsTradELic | all the old linux version I hear mid files |
| 02:56.59 | AbsTradELic | but now! |
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| 02:58.40 | jerry_ | Does anyone know if/where Noatun keeps a cache of songs in a playlist? |
| 02:59.38 | jerry_ | I can't seem to find some of my songs anymore but the still play in noatun on my mile long list |
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| 03:02.36 | oneforall | man cleared cache not many tabs open and konq is so slow now |
| 03:02.41 | jerry_ | wow all the channels seem to be dead lol |
| 03:02.51 | oneforall | drag and drop and it stops |
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| 03:03.15 | Renze | jerry_: I think it's because most people don't use noatun any more |
| 03:03.39 | jerry_ | Damn good point |
| 03:03.57 | Renze | I don't even bother building it |
| 03:04.04 | oneforall | yeah annoying when you have arts disable |
| 03:04.06 | oneforall | :D |
| 03:04.07 | jerry_ | i just wish i could find these songs i was gonna upload them to my mp3 but they're in hiding |
| 03:05.02 | jerry_ | locate won't even find them but partial name after a db update so it led me to believe it renamed them and has them in a cache |
| 03:05.29 | Renze | noatun does not move your mp3s around |
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| 03:06.02 | jerry_ | how does it play songs not in my music collection anymore? |
| 03:06.19 | Renze | it doesn't |
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| 03:08.03 | jerry_ | Oo |
| 03:08.20 | jerry_ | i wish i knew where they were then lol |
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| 03:48.49 | TheSimkin | anyone know of a way to get kde to show you % done uploading when sending files etc. over http? |
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| 03:49.14 | TheSimkin | oops |
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| 03:52.58 | segfault | hi :D |
| 03:53.04 | segfault | how can i change the size of kmenu icons? |
| 03:53.16 | DaSkreech | Type alt+F2 and go to appearnce |
| 03:53.49 | segfault | XD |
| 03:54.57 | Renze | segfault: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Secret+Config+Settings#id119697 |
| 03:55.14 | Renze | segfault: look under Change Kicker Menu Icon Size |
| 03:55.30 | segfault | thanks |
| 03:55.34 | Renze | no problem |
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| 04:06.34 | Q-collective | hmm |
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| 04:07.09 | Q-collective | is it pretty common that konq crashes on video.google.com with big video's? |
| 04:07.16 | Q-collective | for example: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-570288889128950913 |
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| 04:09.57 | flaccid | what is the parameter to open a file in current instance eg. kate -N or something? |
| 04:10.24 | Renze | kate -u |
| 04:10.32 | flaccid | thanks |
| 04:10.50 | Renze | I found out by typing kate --help |
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| 04:13.14 | flaccid | ah thanks |
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| 04:18.46 | smileaf | good evening. |
| 04:19.01 | smileaf | I don't have a question just am bored. |
| 04:19.19 | Simkin | you don't need to have questions to be here :) |
| 04:19.34 | smileaf | I know.. just didn't wanna scare away possible chatters ;) |
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| 04:21.13 | smileaf | and it's quiet o.O |
| 04:21.20 | smileaf | irvin: say something |
| 04:21.47 | irvin | hi! |
| 04:22.05 | smileaf | excellent! |
| 04:22.54 | rohanpm | smileaf: is your nick derived from "smi-leaf", "smile-af", or other? |
| 04:22.56 | smileaf | I got 30 minutes before I want to go to bed. :/ |
| 04:23.11 | smileaf | rohanpm: actually it uses my real name |
| 04:23.20 | rohanpm | smileaf: ah. /whois told me the answer :-) |
| 04:23.25 | smileaf | rohanpm: don't have the capitals in :) |
| 04:24.18 | SMiLeaf | There :) |
| 04:25.23 | rohanpm | SMiLeaf: so your middle name is "Middlename" |
| 04:26.17 | SMiLeaf | actually it started off as boredom.. used my initals to make smile .. then later noticed I could use my full last name. then noticed I didn't have to add any letters I could just use them as they appear in my name o.O |
| 04:27.12 | SMiLeaf | that was.. almost 12 years ago :) |
| 04:27.46 | SMiLeaf | very nice having a nick name that no one else in the world has :) |
| 04:27.54 | SMiLeaf | how'd you get yours? |
| 04:28.40 | rohanpm | SMiLeaf: it's just to be consistent with my KDE SVN username |
| 04:28.53 | SMiLeaf | ok |
| 04:29.10 | SMiLeaf | they have some sort of naming scheme or something? |
| 04:29.31 | DaSkreech | Let me guess |
| 04:29.39 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:29.42 | rohanpm | SMiLeaf: well actually, not really. you ask for a username. I asked for rohan.pm but dots aren't cool |
| 04:29.57 | rohanpm | SMiLeaf: it's just my first name and last two initials |
| 04:29.57 | SMiLeaf | oh |
| 04:30.20 | SMiLeaf | I figured rohan was your name. for pm I could only think night time XD |
| 04:30.42 | SMiLeaf | so what projects do you work on? |
| 04:33.21 | rohanpm | SMiLeaf: just KDE and my own. The amount of work I do on KDE depends strongly on the time of year, I'm still at university and I cannot spare much time for it at the moment |
| 04:33.33 | rohanpm | SMiLeaf: cannot spare much time for KDE I mean |
| 04:34.15 | SMiLeaf | I know the feeling. tho my amount of time is slim no matter what time of the year :( |
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| 04:36.33 | SMiLeaf | wouldn't mind learning c++ better so I could actually make more patches. |
| 04:37.10 | SMiLeaf | as it is the only kde program I work on is the kdm theme manager. not touched it for over 2 months :) |
| 04:38.01 | SMiLeaf | in which I _just_ updated my main website to display the new version.. lol |
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| 04:43.18 | DaSkreech | Oooh oooh Where? |
| 04:43.50 | SMiLeaf | ? |
| 04:44.19 | SMiLeaf | http://beta.smileaf.org/ <-- my projects website. |
| 04:46.52 | DaSkreech | S0 1.1 is hte new one? |
| 04:48.41 | SMiLeaf | yep |
| 04:49.12 | rohanpm | I don't get it, there is already a place to change the KDM theme in KControl |
| 04:49.48 | rohanpm | KControl -> System Administration -> Login Manager |
| 04:50.13 | SMiLeaf | wrong theme. |
| 04:50.24 | SMiLeaf | kdm is skinable |
| 04:50.33 | SMiLeaf | is changes those themes |
| 04:50.53 | rohanpm | "skinnable" how? |
| 04:51.05 | alvarezp | Hello, all. What Qt functions can I use to load a jpeg and painting it into an Xlib window? |
| 04:51.05 | Renze | like gdm is skinnable |
| 04:51.28 | SMiLeaf | rohanpm: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=40 |
| 04:52.13 | rohanpm | SMiLeaf: Ah, I see. |
| 04:52.15 | DaSkreech | Hmm |
| 04:52.16 | DaSkreech | ok |
| 04:52.21 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.23 | DaSkreech | Kool |
| 04:52.30 | SMiLeaf | yup :) |
| 04:52.41 | SMiLeaf | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=22120 <-- thats the one that gets updated more |
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| 04:53.01 | DaSkreech | So it gets run as a secondary application? |
| 04:53.11 | SMiLeaf | hmm? |
| 04:53.19 | DaSkreech | it 's not integrated into the Control panel? |
| 04:53.21 | SMiLeaf | it's a separate applet |
| 04:53.29 | DaSkreech | applet? |
| 04:53.29 | SMiLeaf | or.. module.. w/e |
| 04:53.33 | DaSkreech | lol |
| 04:53.37 | SMiLeaf | <-- tired |
| 04:53.38 | DaSkreech | Where do I find it? |
| 04:53.49 | DaSkreech | Me too |
| 04:53.51 | SMiLeaf | To run kdmtheme simple open K Control Center and go to System Administration |
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| 04:54.32 | DaSkreech | Login manager? |
| 04:54.39 | SMiLeaf | KDM Theme Manager |
| 04:55.06 | SMiLeaf | kubuntu has it.. but I don't think it's in the default distribution |
| 04:55.15 | SMiLeaf | it's in the universe section |
| 04:55.16 | DaSkreech | Just apt-got it |
| 04:55.31 | DaSkreech | Ok had to reboot the System Kontrol :) |
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| 04:56.39 | DaSkreech | Great :-) |
| 04:56.52 | SMiLeaf | nice little tool :) |
| 04:57.56 | DaSkreech | Yeah Just made my Bling war much easier :-) |
| 04:57.59 | DaSkreech | Night |
| 04:58.01 | DaSkreech | See you soon |
| 04:58.04 | SMiLeaf | bling war? |
| 04:58.10 | DaSkreech | Yeah |
| 04:58.26 | DaSkreech | Finally konvinced someone to install Kubuntu against his KDe bias |
| 04:58.38 | SMiLeaf | lol |
| 04:58.48 | DaSkreech | Now he's going krazy trying to make it look better than anything else anyone can dream of |
| 04:58.59 | DaSkreech | So.. the war is on :) |
| 04:59.02 | SMiLeaf | he didn't like how login themes are not easily configured? :) |
| 05:00.41 | DaSkreech | Well he hasn't gotten that far |
| 05:00.50 | DaSkreech | I'll just accidently log out tomorrow :) |
| 05:00.58 | SMiLeaf | lol |
| 05:01.14 | SMiLeaf | ok, well good night :) |
| 05:01.27 | DaSkreech | Night |
| 05:03.37 | DietrichR | KDE sucks! |
| 05:04.24 | DaSkreech | I agree! |
| 05:04.40 | DietrichR | I actually was being sarcastic |
| 05:04.42 | DietrichR | How can you think KDE sucks? |
| 05:05.14 | DaSkreech | haha :-) |
| 05:05.26 | DaSkreech | Thought that you would snap out of it |
| 05:05.31 | DietrichR | :-p |
| 05:07.19 | DaSkreech | Well... KDE3 is probably going to suck after KDE4 comes out |
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| 05:07.46 | DietrichR | And that's saying something too |
| 05:09.45 | DaSkreech | Yeah I know |
| 05:09.59 | DaSkreech | I'm looking through The Brainstorms on KDE-Look |
| 05:10.30 | DietrichR | They're quite interesting |
| 05:10.55 | DietrichR | I love how Gnome is playing catchup to KDE3 while KDE4 is being developed, and yet Gnome still is going in the wrong direction IMO |
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| 05:11.32 | aesxa | Hi. k3b tells me I need to insert some media, it doesn't like my DVD-Rs. Why? |
| 05:12.23 | DaSkreech | that doesn't matter :-) |
| 05:12.38 | DaSkreech | I love how Windows is trying to be where LInux was 3 years ago |
| 05:13.44 | DietrichR | I love QT. mmm |
| 05:14.11 | aesxa | so my DVD will still be intact although k3b complains that I should insert double-layer appendable DVD+/-RW? |
| 05:15.04 | aesxa | oh isee, it was upset about my size ... these discs are supposedly 4.7 GB though. |
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| 05:20.01 | p3thupv | hi I want to translate kde to greenlandic can someone help me how to start project |
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| 05:20.30 | Renze | p3thupv: check out http://i18n.kde.org |
| 05:20.43 | p3thupv | ok |
| 05:20.55 | DaSkreech | p3thupv: http://i18n.kde.org/ |
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| 05:20.58 | DaSkreech | dOH! |
| 05:21.02 | v`pc | :o it is |
| 05:21.03 | Renze | jinx! |
| 05:21.15 | v`pc | i thought it was wrong when i started kde and it said 3.5 |
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| 05:22.34 | DaSkreech | Should say 4.01? |
| 05:23.21 | DaSkreech | qtparted can't delete partitions? |
| 05:24.43 | p3thupv | can't i just download i18n source files and start my project |
| 05:25.39 | Renze | p3thupv: read the howto |
| 05:26.53 | p3thupv | thx |
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| 05:31.22 | thebanana | what is the recommend version of automake for building kde from svn? |
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| 05:32.14 | thebanana | on the kde page, it says anything greater than automake 1.6.3 |
| 05:34.38 | thebanana | but from what i gather, automake tends to break backwards-compatibility |
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| 05:40.58 | chavo | thebanana, the recommended procedure is to use unsermake |
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| 05:43.52 | thebanana | oh really? |
| 05:43.55 | thebanana | ok |
| 05:44.03 | thebanana | i'm trying to build ktorrent from svn btw |
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| 05:44.34 | chavo | well you need to have automake installed as well as it still uses autoconf and aclocal |
| 05:46.09 | thebanana | both? |
| 05:46.14 | thebanana | unsermake and automake? |
| 05:46.23 | thebanana | and which qt? |
| 05:46.42 | chavo | I believe 3.3 and up |
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| 05:53.13 | hagabaka | wow |
| 05:53.30 | hagabaka | instead of Cookies, I get a Cheesecake! (in Konqueror) |
| 05:54.40 | DaSkreech | Blueberry? |
| 05:54.57 | hagabaka | can't tell... |
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| 05:58.35 | aseigo | hagabaka: heh. yeah. winner in the "most unexpected icon" category. |
| 05:59.06 | hagabaka | :) |
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| 06:05.11 | gudinio | hi, guys. I have a setup LCD-TV, and all the programs in autorun start twice, how to disable the autostart (or the whole kde desktop1) on TV? Thanks |
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| 06:06.24 | aseigo | gudinio: no idea what you mean by "lcd-tv" ... |
| 06:06.40 | aseigo | gudinio: do you mean you have two monitors connected to your system or something? |
| 06:06.49 | gudinio | aseigo, yep, exactly |
| 06:07.05 | aseigo | gudinio: and you can't use xinerama? you have to use dual-head? |
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| 06:07.37 | gudinio | aseigo, dual-head, I use TV for movies only. Worthless otherwise |
| 06:07.47 | twosouls82 | good morning :) |
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| 06:10.52 | gudinio | aseigo, so no idea at all? What if I remove r |
| 06:11.30 | gudinio | ... permissions from ~/Desktop1 directory? KDE should fail to start on it? |
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| 06:16.32 | aseigo | gudinio: unfortunately kdesktop (which does the autostart entries) isn't very dual-head aware |
| 06:16.43 | aseigo | gudinio: dual head is a fairly unsupported system in kde |
| 06:17.03 | aseigo | gudinio: so i'd suggest either running a different window manager on the second head or not using autostart |
| 06:17.41 | gudinio | aseigo, ok. what for 4.0? Any support planned? |
| 06:18.15 | aseigo | gudinio: not unless someone steps up who uses dualhead... we have pretty good xinerama support, but that's because people who use xinerama support it |
| 06:18.33 | aseigo | gudinio: amazing how many people use dual head given that aprox 0 people have ever stepped up to work on it ;) |
| 06:18.51 | gudinio | aseigo, hmmm ;) |
| 06:20.17 | gudinio | aseigo, so the support would be in checking the config file for whether to start on :0.1 display? That can be an easy thing to do |
| 06:20.33 | aseigo | checking the display is indeed easy |
| 06:20.50 | aseigo | getting the "correct" behaviour isn't so easy. i suspect one would want different autostart folders on each head, for instance |
| 06:21.40 | gudinio | what if Qt options: |
| 06:21.41 | gudinio | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:24.09 | gudinio | anyway, thanks |
| 06:24.44 | Asusanator | k |
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| 06:51.00 | twosouls82 | where are the configuration settings of KControl being stored? |
| 06:52.42 | Renze | ~/.kde/share/config/kcontrolrc |
| 06:52.54 | twosouls82 | thanks Renze |
| 06:52.59 | Renze | no problem |
| 06:54.05 | twosouls82 | what is a _proper_ way to make my 10pt fonts look like they should? (they now look like 12pt fonts) |
| 06:54.59 | twosouls82 | I tried changing the DPI but that makes them look very ugly, anti-aliasing will not even function properly anymore. |
| 06:55.06 | Renze | match your X dpi to your screen? |
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| 06:55.30 | Renze | X tends to do that automatically |
| 06:55.55 | twosouls82 | Renze, how would you do that? I used dpi in my driver section in xorg.conf. Is there another way to do this? |
| 06:56.10 | Renze | I didn't set dpi anywhere, and X did all the work for me |
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| 06:56.55 | twosouls82 | is it possible that SUSE set it for me somewhere? (so that I can remove that setting) |
| 06:57.07 | Renze | no idea, I've never used SuSE |
| 06:57.10 | chavo | twosouls82, you can use ~/.Xresources also I have this in mine -> Xft.dpi: 96 |
| 06:58.02 | twosouls82 | chavo, that file doesn't exist in my home folder, should I just create it? |
| 06:58.11 | chavo | yeah |
| 06:58.25 | twosouls82 | merci guys |
| 06:58.33 | chavo | then you'll have the same DPI for any desktop or xsession |
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| 07:03.48 | twosouls82 | chavo, using a dpi set by me, I get very ugly fonts |
| 07:03.49 | twosouls82 | :s |
| 07:04.14 | twosouls82 | how do I check what dpi is proper for my screen? |
| 07:04.49 | Renze | get out a ruler and count :) |
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| 07:05.06 | Renze | or check the manual... if you're lucky they'll have it in there |
| 07:05.40 | twosouls82 | Renze, it's not in the specifications |
| 07:05.53 | twosouls82 | how would I calculate it? |
| 07:06.23 | thebanana | if i build a kde app from source, can i run it from the build directory? |
| 07:06.27 | Renze | my 19" LCD has a dpi of 85x86 (it's slightly taller to make the resolution square) |
| 07:06.28 | thebanana | will it find its plugins? |
| 07:06.39 | Renze | thebanana: probably not... it needs to be installed |
| 07:06.44 | thebanana | doh |
| 07:07.03 | thebanana | i guess i could PREFIX it to some tempdir |
| 07:07.21 | twosouls82 | Renze, I have a 19 inch too, but it is set to 86x86, could that be the reason for those ugly fonts? |
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| 07:07.27 | Renze | and add that tempdir to $KDEDIRS and $LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 07:07.51 | Renze | twosouls82: did you set it to 86, or did X do that itself? |
| 07:07.58 | Renze | twosouls82: and define "ugly fonts" |
| 07:08.01 | twosouls82 | Renze, x did that |
| 07:08.17 | Renze | if X did it, it's probably right |
| 07:08.32 | twosouls82 | ugly fonts are like non antialiased, even when antialiased |
| 07:08.46 | Renze | hmmm... dpi has nothing to do with antialiasing |
| 07:09.38 | twosouls82 | Renze, it looks like my fonts are not 'square' |
| 07:09.48 | Renze | not all fonts are square |
| 07:09.59 | twosouls82 | Renze, non of them here :P |
| 07:10.03 | Renze | could you put a sample image up on imageshack.us ? |
| 07:10.09 | twosouls82 | yeah sure |
| 07:10.16 | twosouls82 | gimme a sec |
| 07:10.36 | Renze | <khan> I give 2 seconds </khan> |
| 07:10.44 | twosouls82 | :D |
| 07:11.02 | Renze | ah, the joy of xml |
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| 07:13.16 | twosouls82 | Renze, http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/9061/snapshot17sn.png |
| 07:14.05 | Renze | that is antialiased, and looks fine to me |
| 07:14.13 | Renze | it's just the antialiasing is subtle |
| 07:14.17 | chavo | those fonts lok ok to me too |
| 07:14.43 | Renze | if you're using an LCD, you might want to try subpixel hinting, as that looks even better |
| 07:14.47 | twosouls82 | Renze, yes it is anti-aliased.. but there are some dots here and there, that shouldn't be in there |
| 07:14.57 | Renze | there were? |
| 07:15.10 | twosouls82 | Renze, look at the Konversation in Most Used... |
| 07:15.20 | twosouls82 | and mind the v |
| 07:15.51 | Renze | looks fine to me |
| 07:16.13 | twosouls82 | :P |
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| 07:16.24 | Renze | are you using an lcd? |
| 07:16.29 | twosouls82 | yep |
| 07:16.42 | Renze | subpixel hinting looks better than just antialiasing on an lcd |
| 07:17.32 | twosouls82 | Renze, should I disable the Antiali.. and enable the hinting? |
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| 07:18.16 | Renze | no, keep antialiasing ticked, and try the various subpixel hinting styles, unless you know the orientation of the colours on your screen |
| 07:18.22 | Renze | mine is rgb |
| 07:18.37 | twosouls82 | Renze, I will play around a little |
| 07:18.43 | Renze | ok :) |
| 07:18.49 | twosouls82 | thanks for your help in advantage |
| 07:19.03 | Renze | no problem :) |
| 07:20.07 | twosouls82 | Renze, thanks mate :D |
| 07:20.13 | twosouls82 | ^5 it worked |
| 07:20.18 | Renze | cool :) |
| 07:20.32 | Renze | antialiasing looks too blocky on an lcd, IMHO |
| 07:20.32 | twosouls82 | Renze, you're my champ of the day |
| 07:20.43 | Renze | can I have a cookie? :) |
| 07:21.21 | twosouls82 | :D |
| 07:21.22 | mobtek | http://turnerdavid.neuf.fr/freetype/patches/font-patches.html <-- did you guys see this? |
| 07:22.15 | twosouls82 | Renze, I have a "Vertical RGB" btw |
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| 07:22.27 | Renze | mine is horizontal rgb |
| 07:22.43 | Renze | AOC LM925 |
| 07:22.45 | mobtek | heh wrong chan but hey :) |
| 07:23.05 | Renze | mobtek: where did you intend to paste the url? |
| 07:23.25 | twosouls82 | I am not sure of the Vertical, but it looks the nicest; Samsung SyncMaster 913v |
| 07:23.46 | Renze | twosouls82: google it :) |
| 07:24.07 | twosouls82 | Renze, it is not in the specs anywhere I have looked |
| 07:24.10 | twosouls82 | :) |
| 07:24.22 | Renze | nor in mine, I found mine by trial and error :) |
| 07:24.32 | twosouls82 | :P |
| 07:24.40 | Renze | rgb looks good... bgr looks crap... etc etc... back to rgb :) |
| 07:24.41 | mobtek | Renze: #qt cause I thought I was in that chan kekeke |
| 07:24.48 | Renze | mobtek: heh :) |
| 07:25.03 | twosouls82 | Renze, like I did here too :P |
| 07:25.04 | mobtek | but it was relevant to the discussion :) |
| 07:25.06 | twosouls82 | thanks again |
| 07:25.13 | Renze | mobtek: spooky :) |
| 07:25.17 | Renze | twosouls82: no problem :) |
| 07:27.28 | twosouls82 | btw Renze, could it be that your name seems familiar to me, because of the About boxes? |
| 07:27.50 | Renze | twosouls82: I doubt it. I haven't contributed to KDE yet... I plan to, but not yet :) |
| 07:27.58 | twosouls82 | :P |
| 07:28.16 | twosouls82 | Renze, I was wrong... that's a Rinze :) |
| 07:28.26 | Renze | ooookay :) |
| 07:28.55 | Renze | mine is Dutch, although I haven't been in .nl for 32 years |
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| 07:29.04 | twosouls82 | lol |
| 07:29.12 | twosouls82 | waar woon je nu, Renze? |
| 07:29.15 | mobtek | rinse appelstroop :P |
| 07:29.20 | twosouls82 | :D |
| 07:29.25 | twosouls82 | hagelslag |
| 07:29.31 | mobtek | lekker! |
| 07:29.38 | MatBoy | Pindakaas !! |
| 07:29.47 | twosouls82 | mwhoehahahahaaaa :D |
| 07:29.47 | Renze | sorry, I forgot dutch when I was four... except for a few swear words I heard my dad say when he hit his thumb with a hammer :) |
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| 07:29.55 | mobtek | <-- incredibly bad dutch |
| 07:29.59 | Renze | appelstroop! |
| 07:30.09 | Renze | mmmmm... |
| 07:30.14 | Renze | oliebollen! |
| 07:30.16 | MatBoy | Renze, I always say Appelstrudel :P |
| 07:30.26 | mobtek | friekendaal? |
| 07:30.35 | twosouls82 | frikandel |
| 07:30.40 | mobtek | thanks |
| 07:30.43 | twosouls82 | :) |
| 07:30.47 | mobtek | best sausage ever, arses and lips :P |
| 07:30.53 | twosouls82 | :D |
| 07:30.54 | MatBoy | hehe... kroket met maynaise :D |
| 07:30.55 | Renze | ik ben een nederlander |
| 07:30.56 | doez | smakelijk ;) |
| 07:30.59 | MatBoy | maynoaise |
| 07:31.08 | mobtek | MatBoy: indeed |
| 07:31.30 | MatBoy | mobtek, you know what is tastefull for breakfast :p |
| 07:31.37 | twosouls82 | how do you know those Dutch terms? |
| 07:31.42 | mobtek | ontbijtkoek? |
| 07:31.48 | MatBoy | I would not advise you to buy a EggMcMuffing... blurg |
| 07:31.52 | mobtek | hmmm yummy |
| 07:32.07 | twosouls82 | MatBoy, yuk indeed |
| 07:32.13 | mobtek | the dutch are everywhere :P |
| 07:32.13 | twosouls82 | just like that fikandel |
| 07:32.26 | mobtek | Renze: hehe my local store has them |
| 07:32.41 | Renze | mobtek: I could find them in my old city, but not this one :( |
| 07:32.45 | mobtek | dutch food is so unhealthy :P |
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| 07:32.51 | Renze | mmmmm... stroopwafel |
| 07:32.58 | mobtek | but damn it's good hehehe |
| 07:33.47 | mobtek | tsk tsk |
| 07:33.49 | mobtek | ;) |
| 07:34.01 | twosouls82 | tsk wtf? |
| 07:34.03 | twosouls82 | :P |
| 07:34.10 | Renze | zoute drop! lekker! :) |
| 07:34.15 | mobtek | haha yes |
| 07:34.18 | twosouls82 | :D |
| 07:34.29 | mobtek | dubbel zoute |
| 07:34.49 | Renze | I feed those to NZers and watch them spit them out :) |
| 07:34.58 | mobtek | haha I use to do that in high school |
| 07:35.00 | mobtek | was hilarious |
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| 07:35.39 | mobtek | avondeten tijd :P |
| 07:35.54 | twosouls82 | mobtek, not yet mate |
| 07:36.03 | mobtek | it is here :P |
| 07:36.04 | twosouls82 | 9.13 am here |
| 07:36.37 | Renze | Fri May 19 19:35:58 NZST 2006 |
| 07:37.02 | twosouls82 | Renze, where are you living now? |
| 07:37.10 | sheldonc | http://directory.google.com/ wow this page hasn't got much love in the past year... holy crap. |
| 07:37.11 | Renze | Wellington, New Zealand |
| 07:37.28 | twosouls82 | :) is that the Dutch one? |
| 07:37.43 | Renze | dutch one? there are dutch people spread out everywhere |
| 07:37.57 | Renze | my parents moved to Palmerston North, and they're still there |
| 07:38.15 | Renze | no, there are no exclusively dutch villages, but there is a dutch newspaper |
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| 07:39.30 | twosouls82 | Renze, hmmm, they must have been wrong on the Dutch tele than |
| 07:39.50 | Renze | possibly... but then I don't know every town in this country :) |
| 07:40.15 | twosouls82 | :)P |
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| 08:11.42 | Solv | Hello fellow gentooers, I have a question about firefox that could be kde related I'm not sure. I want firefox/thunderbird to recognise the file program associations the same as KDE. Currently I have to save the file and then open it from a folder, this is especially annoying with thunderbrid attachments...any ideas where to start? I;m running gentoo by the way |
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| 08:12.11 | Solv | well...ah...i just copied the post from the gentoo channel...woops |
| 08:13.03 | wisp | hello there.. can anybody tell me how to automatically run commands upon login? commands in ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc don't get run |
| 08:13.17 | wisp | by login i mean from kdm |
| 08:13.28 | wisp | startx runs the commands fine |
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| 08:14.02 | Renze | wisp: put scripts in ~/.kde/Autostart or ~/.kde/env depending on when you want them to start |
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| 08:14.24 | wisp | Renze: what's the order? |
| 08:14.45 | Renze | ~/.kde/env before anything else is done, ~/.kde/Autostart after the desktop is ready |
| 08:14.46 | apt | Renze: okay |
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| 08:14.58 | wisp | Renze: okay cheers |
| 08:15.05 | Renze | oops, ~ is a bot initiator :) |
| 08:15.31 | Renze | wisp: the scripts should end in .sh and be chmod +x |
| 08:15.54 | wisp | hmm okay |
| 08:16.07 | wisp | Renze: i don't have much experience with scripting |
| 08:16.22 | wisp | i just want to run 2 commands basicalle |
| 08:16.26 | wisp | basically* |
| 08:16.28 | Renze | wisp: the first line should be #!/bin/sh |
| 08:16.43 | Renze | the rest is just shell commands exactly as you would type them in a konsole |
| 08:16.54 | Solv | anybody seen the problem where no programs are associated with any file extensions in firefox/thunderbird? |
| 08:17.02 | wisp | Renze: cheers |
| 08:17.07 | Renze | Solv: non-kde apps don't use kde file associations |
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| 08:17.14 | Renze | wisp: you're welcome :) |
| 08:17.52 | Solv | Renze, okay...so I need to set them manually? This is strange as I have seen them automatically detected before |
| 08:18.10 | Renze | you have? I haven't |
| 08:18.59 | wisp | Renze: so if i got something like this http://pastebin.com/726154 in file ~/.kde/Autostart/start.sh it should work fine? |
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| 08:19.09 | Solv | really? every other distro i've run kde on, when i say want to open a .doc from firefox it offers me openoffice as the default app to use |
| 08:19.16 | Solv | but not since using gentoo |
| 08:19.39 | twosouls82 | Renze, what could be the reason for OpenOffice not to use my dpi settings? |
| 08:19.40 | Renze | wisp: looks fine... just make sure you chmod +x the file :) |
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| 08:19.52 | Renze | twosouls82: no idea, I'm afraid... |
| 08:19.57 | twosouls82 | grrr ;) |
| 08:20.10 | wisp | Renze: just did that.. :) i'm gonna go try it out, thanks for your assistance |
| 08:20.31 | Renze | Solv: I'm using gentoo, but I rarely if ever use Firefox, and don't use Thunderbird |
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| 08:21.58 | Renze | twosouls82: openoffice doesn't use subpixel hinting, but then it uses it's own toolkit, not qt or gtk2 |
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| 08:22.23 | Renze | wisp: did it work? |
| 08:22.31 | wisp | Renze: worked like a charm, thanks a bunch :) |
| 08:22.32 | twosouls82 | :S do it doesn't read out my dpi for its fonts either? |
| 08:22.36 | Renze | wisp: cool :) |
| 08:22.51 | Renze | twosouls82: it does, but it uses plain antialiasing and no subpixel hinting |
| 08:23.13 | wisp | Renze: do you by chance know if there is a directory for files to get loaded regardless of which user logs in? |
| 08:23.32 | twosouls82 | Renze, it seems it doesn't, the fonts are still 12pt in openoffice, while they're 10pt in all other apps |
| 08:23.42 | Renze | wisp: $KDEDIR/share/autostart/ |
| 08:23.53 | Renze | wisp: $KDEDIR should be wherever you have KDE installed |
| 08:23.54 | wisp | Renze: gerat thanks |
| 08:23.59 | wisp | *great |
| 08:24.25 | Renze | twosouls82: yeah, that's the price you pay for OOo not using a real toolkit :) |
| 08:24.39 | twosouls82 | Renze, :) |
| 08:25.08 | Renze | I'm hoping Koffice makes a few quantum leaps and starts kicking OOo's ass :) |
| 08:25.21 | wisp | twosouls82: have you got 'gtk-engines-qt' ? |
| 08:25.27 | twosouls82 | yeah |
| 08:25.36 | Renze | OpenOffice doesn't use gtk2 |
| 08:25.37 | wisp | okay :/ |
| 08:25.45 | Renze | it uses it's own toolkit |
| 08:26.04 | wisp | i thiught it was gtk.. my bad |
| 08:26.22 | wisp | damn.. having the kayboard on the floor sucks.. :/ |
| 08:26.30 | twosouls82 | Renze, I think you can wait a long time, it has odt supprt already, but when you make a odt in KWord it's messed up when you open it in OpenOffice |
| 08:26.50 | Renze | twosouls82: I've noticed :) |
| 08:26.54 | twosouls82 | :D |
| 08:27.14 | twosouls82 | :| |
| 08:27.25 | wisp | :| |
| 08:27.36 | Renze | ok, who left this on the floor? |
| 08:27.37 | twosouls82 | wathc out mate |
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| 08:29.02 | Renze | caffeine, the holy molecule... |
| 08:29.38 | twosouls82 | Renze, that is thc, if you ask me |
| 08:29.53 | Renze | no way, it's definitely caffeine :P |
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| 08:33.00 | twosouls82 | :D |
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| 08:38.51 | twosouls82 | hi xushi :) |
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| 08:39.17 | xushi | hi |
| 08:39.19 | xushi | got my final msc project for this semester due in an hour, and i don't know the fscking mdule code or name ... |
| 08:40.21 | twosouls82 | :S |
| 08:40.32 | twosouls82 | xushi, good luck anyway |
| 08:41.00 | xushi | hehe ta |
| 08:41.02 | xushi | how's yoru day ? |
| 08:41.06 | twosouls82 | Renze, they don't seem to know it on #openoffice.org either:P |
| 08:41.17 | Renze | twosouls82: I'm not surprised |
| 08:41.33 | twosouls82 | xushi, the day has just begun, so it is still great :D |
| 08:41.57 | danst | I have problems with the konsole and kdevelop crashing when i shut down my computer. what data do i need to file a good bug report? |
| 08:42.09 | danst | with a SIGSEGV |
| 08:42.44 | Renze | a backtrace is usually quite helpful if you have a core file |
| 08:43.41 | Renze | kde has it's own crash handler, so if you have a kde crash dialog showing, try to get a backtrace from there |
| 08:43.51 | danst | is it sufficient to install gdb (because the kde bugreport tells me that this is missing) or do i need to install more stuff / compile it by myself |
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| 08:43.57 | yang | Is it a common problem that artsd shows over 90% cpu usage on kde 3.5 and exits with error cpu overload, aborting ? |
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| 08:44.04 | Renze | it really needs KDE built with debug symbols though |
| 08:44.43 | Renze | gdb is used for making the backtrace |
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| 08:45.28 | danst | so i just install it and hope that arch linux has its kde build with debug symbols... |
| 08:45.48 | Renze | most distros strip out the debug stuff to make everything smaller |
| 08:45.57 | danst | ookkk yeah i just read that |
| 08:46.17 | danst | so without debug symbols no good bug report...? |
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| 08:46.47 | Renze | I'm afraid not... you could search bugs.kde.org and see if anybody else has the same problem and vote on it |
| 08:47.00 | danst | ok thank you very much! |
| 08:47.07 | Renze | no problem :) |
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| 08:48.10 | dbglt | hi there. I'm just wondering... on updating kde I can't seem to get a desktop-list when I try "Walk through desktop" shortcut... but it instead just switches automatically to the next desktop... would there be any logical explanation for this? |
| 08:48.26 | dbglt | (upgraded from 3.5 to 3.5.2) |
| 08:48.52 | Renze | dbglt: hmmm... I get the desktop list in 3.5.2. |
| 08:49.06 | Renze | I'll see if it's an option |
| 08:50.27 | Renze | can't find any options |
| 08:50.32 | dbglt | there is a shortcut available for "Walk through Desktops" (that's what I originally had it bound to, and it worked fine), I then tried "Walk through desktop list", but both have the same effect of just switching to the next desktop |
| 08:51.07 | Renze | I'm using Walk Through Desktops, and get a desktop list |
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| 08:55.44 | micmac | Hello |
| 08:56.16 | mark_alec | hey micmac |
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| 08:57.31 | micmac | Hey, aren't you the huy from #kde-forum? |
| 08:57.37 | micmac | Ups, #gentoo-forum |
| 08:57.45 | mark_alec | yep |
| 08:57.48 | micmac | :) |
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| 09:04.08 | micmac | I'm looking for a way to easily rename files with my mouse, like in windows. I want to be able to rename a file by simply marking it, then clicking it again. Afterwards I'd like to type in the new name. I found an option in konquerors setup named (translation:) "Rename symbols directly". Its explanation says that after you activate this option you can rename files by simply clicking the symbol name. But I couldn't get it to work just yet |
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| 09:05.03 | Renze | I think you have to be in double-click mode for that feature to work |
| 09:05.13 | micmac | I am. |
| 09:05.18 | Renze | hmmm |
| 09:05.42 | Renze | I right click, select Rename, and then I can type the new name directly in the file manager window. |
| 09:06.11 | Renze | or select it and press F2 |
| 09:06.33 | micmac | That's too much to do to rename a file :) The F2 thing is faster. That's what I do for now. |
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| 09:06.56 | Renze | I use the konsole for renaming large groups of files |
| 09:07.03 | Renze | or krename |
| 09:07.07 | micmac | :) |
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| 09:11.27 | Cicci0 | has anyone problems with kopete on yahoo accounts? I log in and often it disconnects after some time (few seconds to a couple of minutes) |
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| 09:12.23 | Renze | Cicci0: I get disconnected from yahoo maybe once a week. |
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| 09:16.36 | micmac | Is kopete working for ICQ after the ICQ protocol changes? Gaim had some problems with them... If kopete (3.4.3 I think) is not working my sister is gonna kill me :) |
| 09:16.50 | Desintegr | upgrade :) |
| 09:17.08 | Renze | I remember it working when I was using 3.4.x, but that was a while ago |
| 09:17.30 | micmac | OMG, I'm finished. I'm in another city, don't have access to her computer. |
| 09:17.30 | Renze | it definitely works in 3.5.x |
| 09:17.54 | micmac | Can I use kopete 3.5.x with kde 3.4.3? Prolly not? |
| 09:18.11 | micmac | Only one way to find out. |
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| 09:19.11 | Renze | when did the ICQ changes happen? |
| 09:19.43 | micmac | +-2 months ago |
| 09:20.24 | Renze | 2 months ago I was already using 3.5.x, but there were no problems with kopete |
| 09:20.54 | Renze | so I think you're probably okay |
| 09:20.58 | Solv | micmac, you're a gentooer aren't you? |
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| 09:21.58 | micmac | Yes |
| 09:22.40 | Solv | micmac, do you use Firefox? |
| 09:23.07 | micmac | No, konqueror |
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| 09:23.55 | micmac | Vanilla firefox is missing too many features that Konqueror already has. |
| 09:24.12 | cloud9 | like? |
| 09:24.25 | Solv | micmac, okay...i'm just trying to solve a problem i'm having where there are no file associations to any programs in firefox.thunderbird |
| 09:25.07 | Solv | if konqueror supported extensions like firefox i would us it...but alas... |
| 09:25.46 | Renze | I only use one extension in firefox... adblock, and konqueror already has that |
| 09:26.21 | micmac | It doesn't? I think you can teach it what program a file of a certain extension has to be openend with. |
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| 09:28.16 | Solv | micmac, yeah although that is gonna be a long slow process...it used to just automatically detect them |
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| 09:37.43 | Solv | i;ve also got a another strange issue with firefox/thunderbird...after finally getting the mouse cursor to match the same as the kde theme by putting 'inherits=<theme>' in a file i can't remember where...the cursor is the next size up! As soon as you go to the title bar though it shrinks back down to normal |
| 09:38.37 | micmac | Maybe setting XCURSOS_SIZE to the same size KDE uses helps? |
| 09:38.45 | micmac | XCURSOR_SIZE |
| 09:39.35 | micmac | Try starting mozilla with XCURSOR_SIZE="<num>" up front until you get the same cursor size. |
| 09:39.48 | micmac | If it works put it in your .bashrc |
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| 09:44.57 | Solv | micmac, sweet thanks |
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| 09:50.12 | Solv | micmac...doesn't appear to do anything |
| 09:50.22 | twosouls82 | can I just disable gtk-qt-engine for a specific user? |
| 09:50.45 | micmac | Solv, was just an idea :) |
| 09:50.47 | Renze | twosouls82: each user can select whichever gtk engine they want to use |
| 09:51.11 | Solv | yeah tis cool...thanks for the thought |
| 09:51.19 | twosouls82 | Renze, where would I do that? gtk-qt-engine conflicts with my QtCurve |
| 09:51.59 | Renze | twosouls82: kcontrol -> Appearance & Themes -> GTK Styles and Fonts |
| 09:52.16 | twosouls82 | Renze, did it, still the gtk-qt--engine is being used |
| 09:52.17 | Renze | tell GTK to use the QtCurve for GTK instead of gtk-qt-engine |
| 09:52.29 | twosouls82 | which conflicts |
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| 09:52.47 | Renze | twosouls82: works here... I have gtk-qt-engine installed, and QtCurve... no conflicts here |
| 09:52.53 | twosouls82 | :s |
| 09:52.57 | twosouls82 | odd |
| 09:53.11 | Renze | twosouls82: do you have "Use another style" selected, and it set to QtCurve? |
| 09:53.17 | twosouls82 | yep |
| 09:53.23 | Renze | works here :) |
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| 09:53.29 | twosouls82 | dammit |
| 09:53.47 | twosouls82 | it used to work here to :D lol |
| 09:54.12 | Renze | if you're expecting it to work immediately on gtk apps, gtk doesn't work that way - the apps need to be restarted |
| 09:54.46 | twosouls82 | Renze, I know |
| 09:54.52 | twosouls82 | It just conflicts |
| 09:54.59 | Renze | conflicts in what way? |
| 09:55.00 | twosouls82 | letme take a screenie, sec |
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| 09:56.59 | twosouls82 | Renze, http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6461/snapshot17xo.png |
| 09:57.24 | Renze | bah, I won't be able to see it... my ISP is having DNS problems :/ |
| 09:57.41 | twosouls82 | hahaha |
| 09:57.53 | twosouls82 | I posted the wrong one |
| 09:57.55 | twosouls82 | :P |
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| 09:58.18 | Renze | I can only access websites within NZ at the moment :( |
| 09:58.23 | twosouls82 | :s |
| 09:58.26 | twosouls82 | how odd |
| 09:58.29 | Renze | very |
| 09:58.29 | twosouls82 | b*tches |
| 09:58.38 | Renze | they're not very smart |
| 09:58.43 | twosouls82 | :P |
| 09:58.56 | Renze | it took them six hours to figure out how to stop a DoS attack from one IP |
| 09:58.58 | twosouls82 | Renze, if it works again, have a look at this one; http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5976/engineconflict6dd.png |
| 09:59.11 | Renze | nope, not yet :( |
| 09:59.14 | twosouls82 | :s that's really dumber |
| 09:59.32 | twosouls82 | Renze, and you told them howto? |
| 09:59.45 | Renze | no, they wouldn't listen to a lowly customer :) |
| 10:00.23 | twosouls82 | :D |
| 10:00.46 | Renze | "Windows XP?" "No, Linux" "Oh... we cannot support you, I'm afraid" "Um, like I need support..." |
| 10:00.58 | Solv | micmac, after trying for weeks, I stumbled across a solution that works....you gotta edit the ~/.kde3.5/share/config/gtkrc-2.0 file and add gtk-cursor-theme-size=16 |
| 10:01.12 | micmac | :) |
| 10:01.20 | twosouls82 | hahahaha |
| 10:01.24 | twosouls82 | like my ISP |
| 10:01.39 | twosouls82 | "Linux? that's a server right?" |
| 10:02.56 | Renze | I stunned the guy who came around to install the cable for the cable modem... he said it usually takes longer to set things up in Windows... I was editing the files directly in konsole. :) |
| 10:03.08 | twosouls82 | :D |
| 10:03.12 | Renze | matter of a few seconds, and I was online :) |
| 10:03.22 | twosouls82 | so you gave him a copy of a Linux cd? |
| 10:03.27 | twosouls82 | o no, Gentoo right? |
| 10:03.31 | Renze | I didn't have one handy :) |
| 10:03.34 | Renze | yes, gentoo |
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| 10:04.09 | twosouls82 | I loved Gentoo, it could use a install cd though, setting it up on my 4 boxes was too much work for me |
| 10:04.39 | Renze | same hardware? you could have made quickpkgs of everything and installed binaries on the other three :) |
| 10:04.48 | twosouls82 | no, all different |
| 10:04.49 | twosouls82 | ;) |
| 10:04.51 | Renze | oh |
| 10:04.54 | twosouls82 | home brews |
| 10:05.07 | twosouls82 | all, for a different purpose |
| 10:05.13 | Renze | every computer I've owned for the last 10 years have been homebrew :) |
| 10:05.24 | Renze | buy parts, assemble |
| 10:05.32 | Renze | much cheaper than buying off-the-shelf |
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| 10:05.54 | twosouls82 | (Y) indeed, way cheaper |
| 10:06.05 | twosouls82 | I get my parts from all over the world |
| 10:06.07 | twosouls82 | :) |
| 10:06.17 | twosouls82 | no transport taxes :D |
| 10:06.29 | Renze | I got some new, some second hand, but all from TradeMe.co.nz :) |
| 10:07.02 | twosouls82 | Renze, would that be a good place for a second hand sound card? |
| 10:07.09 | Firztspawn | lol I didnt realise you were a kiwi |
| 10:07.11 | Renze | if you're in NZ, yes :) |
| 10:07.25 | Firztspawn | Renze: Jafa? |
| 10:07.26 | Renze | I'm a dutch kiwi :) |
| 10:07.33 | Renze | no way! Wellington, dude |
| 10:07.37 | Firztspawn | lol |
| 10:07.42 | Firztspawn | Taranaki here |
| 10:07.53 | Renze | ah, the 'naki... |
| 10:08.02 | Renze | how related are your parents? :D |
| 10:08.11 | Firztspawn | they arent lol |
| 10:08.22 | Firztspawn | Im not a natural naki-ite |
| 10:08.36 | Firztspawn | actully born in the Hutt |
| 10:08.37 | Renze | I'm not a natural kiwi... was born in The Netherlands |
| 10:08.51 | twosouls82 | kiwi = New Sealander? |
| 10:09.01 | Firztspawn | ya |
| 10:09.05 | twosouls82 | lol |
| 10:09.06 | Firztspawn | Zealander* |
| 10:09.14 | Renze | kiwi == native flightless bird of NZ, not a fruit! |
| 10:09.15 | twosouls82 | Zeelander ;) |
| 10:09.27 | twosouls82 | I am a cheese head :P |
| 10:09.35 | Firztspawn | cheese head? |
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| 10:09.40 | twosouls82 | Dutchie |
| 10:09.45 | Renze | you are not from Wisconsin! |
| 10:09.47 | Firztspawn | ok |
| 10:10.01 | twosouls82 | you are not from Wisconsin! ? |
| 10:10.03 | Renze | cheese heads live in Wisconsin, USA |
| 10:10.08 | twosouls82 | :D |
| 10:10.12 | Renze | they have cheese hats and everything |
| 10:10.23 | twosouls82 | we are called cheese heads (kaaskoppen) too |
| 10:10.44 | Renze | that's something else I need to find here... kumenekaas (sp?) |
| 10:11.01 | Firztspawn | kuumenekaas? |
| 10:11.05 | twosouls82 | Komeine/Komijne kaar |
| 10:11.08 | twosouls82 | kaas* |
| 10:11.10 | Renze | cumin seed cheese |
| 10:11.18 | Renze | yum |
| 10:11.33 | Firztspawn | try the local supermarket, amy be in the cheese section |
| 10:11.37 | twosouls82 | and pindakaas. already found that Renze? |
| 10:11.37 | Renze | I haven't spoken dutch since I was four :) |
| 10:11.41 | xushi | weee! 2 down, 4 more to go |
| 10:11.48 | Firztspawn | or welly should have specialised places |
| 10:12.02 | Firztspawn | may* |
| 10:12.07 | Renze | they probably do, I just haven't found them yet... I think there is a dutch shop in petone |
| 10:12.38 | Firztspawn | there used to be a dutch place when I lived in Tauranga |
| 10:13.10 | twosouls82 | :D |
| 10:13.29 | Renze | I will visit the homeland again one day... |
| 10:13.32 | twosouls82 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut_butter |
| 10:13.49 | twosouls82 | the Rabobank is stationed in NZ, as I just read |
| 10:13.50 | Renze | dns problems still :( |
| 10:13.59 | twosouls82 | arrrggg |
| 10:14.22 | Renze | my ISP needs some clue beaten into them |
| 10:14.25 | Firztspawn | Rabobank ... dutch? |
| 10:14.29 | twosouls82 | yep |
| 10:14.55 | twosouls82 | Rabobank was Boeren-leen-bank, but now it is international |
| 10:15.04 | twosouls82 | and called Rabobank |
| 10:15.06 | Firztspawn | if you wanted blistering internet you moved to the wrong country lol |
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| 10:15.35 | Renze | Firztspawn: wasn't my choice - I was four years old :) |
| 10:15.35 | Firztspawn | why did you move to NZ anyway? |
| 10:15.51 | Renze | we were paid to move to NZ - NZ was trying to boost it's population |
| 10:16.00 | Firztspawn | yeah right |
| 10:16.08 | Renze | 1973 we arrived |
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| 10:16.29 | twosouls82 | Renze, 37? |
| 10:16.30 | Firztspawn | you werent seriously paid to move here lol |
| 10:16.36 | Renze | will be 37 in July |
| 10:16.44 | Renze | Firztspawn: yes, we were :) |
| 10:16.52 | Firztspawn | ok |
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| 10:17.04 | Renze | by the NZ government of the time |
| 10:17.20 | Firztspawn | just you and your parents, or you have siblings? |
| 10:17.45 | Renze | me, my sister, and my parents... my aunt and uncle, their kids, and our grandmother came later |
| 10:17.53 | Firztspawn | hmm sister... |
| 10:17.59 | Firztspawn | that would make her my age :) |
| 10:18.06 | twosouls82 | haha Firztspawn |
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| 10:18.37 | Renze | my sister is two years older than me |
| 10:18.45 | twosouls82 | 39 that will be |
| 10:18.56 | Firztspawn | I can be her toyboy ;p |
| 10:19.09 | Renze | you wouldn't like her... trust me. she's the black sheep of the family :) |
| 10:19.54 | Firztspawn | joking |
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| 10:19.57 | twosouls82 | :D |
| 10:20.13 | Renze | tattooed, habitual drug user (and you can see it by looking at her), prefers men who have been in prison, or are in prison... |
| 10:20.28 | twosouls82 | :s |
| 10:20.29 | Firztspawn | hmm |
| 10:20.34 | Firztspawn | ya probably right |
| 10:20.41 | Renze | I warned ya :) |
| 10:20.43 | Firztspawn | Ill have to lie to her to lie with her ;p |
| 10:20.45 | twosouls82 | Firztspawn, not a ex-con? |
| 10:20.49 | Firztspawn | but seriously |
| 10:21.01 | Firztspawn | no twosouls82 |
| 10:21.22 | twosouls82 | lol :P |
| 10:21.35 | Firztspawn | I think my g/f might have something to say about that |
| 10:21.54 | Firztspawn | funny |
| 10:22.20 | Firztspawn | you dont meet many kiwis on freenode, then all of a sudden you find heaps and even some my own age lol |
| 10:22.31 | Renze | quite a few here in #kde |
| 10:22.48 | Firztspawn | yeah but to find a linux user in there mid 30s |
| 10:22.54 | Firztspawn | who is also a kiwi |
| 10:23.33 | Renze | still can't browse outside NZ... I wish my moronic ISP would pull their thumbs out of their collective asses |
| 10:23.34 | Firztspawn | couple of germans too |
| 10:24.03 | Firztspawn | what do you mean cant browse outside nz? |
| 10:24.06 | twosouls82 | Firztspawn, I even now a lot from the Neths, but not from my Province (Drenthe) |
| 10:24.15 | Renze | Firztspawn: my ISP is having DNS issues |
| 10:24.17 | Firztspawn | ok twosouls82 |
| 10:24.30 | Firztspawn | Renze: try 4.2.2.1 |
| 10:24.38 | Renze | twosouls82: I was born in a town called Deventer |
| 10:24.47 | Renze | ip? or dns? |
| 10:24.56 | twosouls82 | Renze, I know Deventer, I even have been there sometimes |
| 10:25.04 | Firztspawn | its the ip of a dns server |
| 10:25.09 | Firztspawn | public |
| 10:25.37 | Firztspawn | Renze: or I can give you xtras dns server ips ;p |
| 10:25.51 | Firztspawn | they might let you use em |
| 10:26.20 | Renze | ok, maybe it's not a DNS issue... |
| 10:26.53 | Renze | I hope they fix it soon, whatever it is |
| 10:27.03 | Firztspawn | tried calling them? |
| 10:27.14 | Renze | not yet... too lazy :) |
| 10:27.24 | Firztspawn | lol |
| 10:27.25 | Firztspawn | ok |
| 10:27.26 | twosouls82 | Renze, maybe they don't even know yet |
| 10:27.28 | twosouls82 | ;) |
| 10:27.39 | twosouls82 | they're dumb as you said |
| 10:27.43 | Renze | I'm betting they do, if none of their subscribers can reach outside of NZ |
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| 10:27.54 | Firztspawn | twosouls82: btw, Welly isnt the same region as Taranaki, but they are close |
| 10:28.08 | Renze | about 4-5 hours drive? |
| 10:28.17 | Firztspawn | yeah about 5 |
| 10:28.38 | twosouls82 | Firztspawn and Renze, in that case all Dutchies are in my region :P |
| 10:28.41 | Firztspawn | I know I can get to Otaki in just over 3 1/2 |
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| 10:29.19 | Firztspawn | so it would be about 4 and a bit maybe a half |
| 10:29.25 | Renze | yeah |
| 10:30.09 | Renze | I live in a nice quiet suburb only 7 minutes by train from the central business district |
| 10:31.03 | Firztspawn | ok |
| 10:31.27 | Renze | best of both worlds :) |
| 10:31.40 | Renze | serenity and chaos :) |
| 10:31.52 | Firztspawn | lol |
| 10:32.57 | Renze | there goes another one |
| 10:33.07 | twosouls82 | is there a way to make the GTK apps use my icon size setting for the toolbars? |
| 10:33.14 | twosouls82 | (KDE setting) |
| 10:33.35 | Renze | no, you would have to manually edit ~/.gtkrc-2.0 |
| 10:33.46 | Renze | don't ask me how :) |
| 10:34.05 | twosouls82 | Renze, I am Googling for the prop to use |
| 10:34.12 | Renze | ok :) |
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| 10:34.40 | Renze | I still can't browse anywhere, and my ISP's "network status" thingy says everything is fine :/ |
| 10:35.14 | Renze | and now even that is unreachable... what ARE they doing? |
| 10:35.33 | Renze | I swear they're staffed by monkeys |
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| 10:36.29 | twosouls82 | or even real kiwis ;) |
| 10:36.38 | IceD^ | Renze: beleive me, your ISP is damn good |
| 10:36.44 | IceD^ | if you will compare it with my |
| 10:36.55 | Renze | that would surprise me |
| 10:37.30 | IceD^ | what'd you say about dialup for $150/month? |
| 10:37.40 | Renze | ouch! what currency? |
| 10:37.45 | IceD^ | USD |
| 10:37.50 | Renze | OW! |
| 10:38.01 | Renze | you're getting raped without vaseline, dude |
| 10:38.21 | IceD^ | I know :) |
| 10:38.28 | IceD^ | monopoly is ugly |
| 10:39.02 | Firztspawn | lol @ monkeys |
| 10:39.42 | Firztspawn | $150 a month? where?? |
| 10:39.49 | IceD^ | Firetech: belarus |
| 10:40.00 | Firztspawn | ok |
| 10:40.09 | IceD^ | don't go here :) |
| 10:40.29 | Firztspawn | lol @ tab complete.. gotta love it when it doesnt quite work right ;p |
| 10:40.42 | IceD^ | I can tell more - the common monthly salary at factory is around $200 here |
| 10:40.53 | IceD^ | ouch ;)) |
| 10:40.57 | Firztspawn | be a hooker then ;p |
| 10:41.00 | Renze | urk, that is bad |
| 10:41.32 | Firztspawn | $200 is about half a week here |
| 10:41.41 | Firztspawn | in a factory |
| 10:42.05 | IceD^ | Firztspawn: my monthly salary is $2K or so, so I'm not crying :] |
| 10:42.38 | Firztspawn | right now I earn 160 a week |
| 10:42.54 | Firztspawn | but then Im employed by the state (in a manner of speaking) |
| 10:43.09 | Renze | "between jobs" :) |
| 10:43.16 | Firztspawn | yeah ;) |
| 10:43.46 | Firztspawn | was a factory worker, got sick of redundancies, so reeducated myself (was a student).. |
| 10:43.56 | Firztspawn | now noone will touch me :\ |
| 10:44.43 | Firztspawn | its like I dont have enough experience in computing, but I have too much to go back to factory work :\ |
| 10:44.53 | twosouls82 | Renze, I got it. I just needed to put this line in my gtkrc-2.0; "gtk-toolbar-icon-size=GTK_ICON_SIZE_SMALL_TOOLBAR" |
| 10:45.00 | Renze | ok :) |
| 10:45.01 | Firztspawn | too much quals* |
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| 10:45.20 | Renze | my ISP's helpdesk has a recorded message saying "international browsing issues" "working on it" |
| 10:45.30 | Firztspawn | lol |
| 10:45.38 | Firztspawn | like xtra earlier this week |
| 10:45.52 | Renze | not just those two sentences... but those are the important parts |
| 10:45.59 | Firztspawn | there phone message was "we currently have a nationwaide outage..." |
| 10:46.07 | Firztspawn | wide* |
| 10:46.25 | Firztspawn | I was like no shit einstein |
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| 10:46.46 | Firztspawn | lol |
| 10:46.48 | alexissoft | hi |
| 10:46.55 | Firztspawn | that would be Telstra ;p |
| 10:47.00 | Renze | yup |
| 10:47.10 | Firztspawn | I dunno who bought Xtra |
| 10:47.21 | Firztspawn | but they rippin us off for every dollar |
| 10:47.25 | Renze | "strewth mate... a dingo stole our bandwidth!" |
| 10:47.32 | Firztspawn | lol |
| 10:50.51 | Firztspawn | actually duh... |
| 10:51.16 | Firztspawn | Renze: that 4.2.2.1 is overseas I think, hence why it wont work.. |
| 10:51.18 | Firztspawn | try this.. |
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| 10:51.30 | Firztspawn | 202.27.158.40 |
| 10:51.51 | Firztspawn | definitely NZ |
| 10:52.04 | Firztspawn | xtra might not have too much of a hissy ;p |
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| 10:52.20 | Renze | I don't think it's DNS related... it seems to be something more serious |
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| 10:52.27 | Firztspawn | try it |
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| 10:53.10 | wifi_wanderer | anyone know how to save korganiser journal entries in a separate file? |
| 10:53.23 | Renze | Firztspawn: same problem |
| 10:53.28 | Firztspawn | ok |
| 10:53.32 | Firztspawn | was worth a shot |
| 10:54.08 | Renze | oh well... I'll just have to wait. At least existing connections are still working |
| 10:54.16 | Firztspawn | true |
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| 10:57.37 | Renze | wheee... it's back! |
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| 10:58.08 | _marco | hallo |
| 10:58.17 | _marco | ist hier jemand? |
| 10:58.22 | _marco | ich bin neu hier |
| 10:58.29 | Renze | english, please |
| 10:58.38 | _marco | ok sorry |
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| 10:59.03 | _marco | my english is not good |
| 10:59.10 | Renze | there is #kde.de if you prefer |
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| 10:59.22 | Renze | but it's mostly empty |
| 10:59.27 | S_A | hi! is there some way in QT by which i can provide opacity to my window ? |
| 10:59.35 | S_A | any API or so ? |
| 10:59.47 | Renze | S_A: not in 3.x - maybe in 4.x |
| 10:59.59 | Renze | I haven't looked |
| 11:00.47 | S_A | Renze: ok! do u know some way by which it can be done (may not be QT) |
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| 11:01.52 | Renze | S_A: the compositing features in X.org are still rather new and unpolished, and most toolkits don't support it yet. It is left to individual window managers to handle that. kwin does, to a degree. |
| 11:03.11 | wifi_wanderer | anyone know how to view all korganiser journal entries in one file? |
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| 11:05.36 | wifi_wanderer | or even where journal entries are saved? |
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| 11:11.09 | Renze | wifi_wanderer: they're embedded in ~/.kde/share/apps/korganizer/<calendar name>.ics |
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| 11:17.01 | quique | I'm installing a machine, and I'd like to limit the webpages the users can visit to *.mydomain.net |
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| 11:17.26 | quique | How can I do it (without resorting to iptables)? |
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| 11:17.59 | quique | Can the KDE kiosk mode be of any help? |
| 11:19.00 | Renze | quique: I think that's probably the only way you'll be able to do it |
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| 11:19.34 | quique | which one? iptables? |
| 11:19.44 | Renze | no, kiost |
| 11:19.47 | Renze | kiosk * |
| 11:20.15 | quique | Using Kiosk, I know how to prevent visiting certain domains. |
| 11:20.39 | quique | But I can't find how to limit the user to a certain one. |
| 11:20.51 | Renze | sorry, I've never had a need to use the kiosk framework, so I know almost nothing about it |
| 11:21.12 | quique | Thanks anyway. Does anybody know? |
| 11:21.37 | Renze | I'm sure there are people that know... whether they are here and awake is another matter :) |
| 11:25.18 | quique | Europeans should be awake (it's 13:26 here!) but probably everybody is busy |
| 11:26.19 | Renze | it's 23:26 here |
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| 11:28.29 | Desintegr | quique: machine connected directly to Internet ? |
| 11:28.35 | quique | yes |
| 11:28.43 | quique | it has a real ip. |
| 11:29.06 | Desintegr | desactive DNS resolution |
| 11:29.21 | Desintegr | and add only *.mydomain.net |
| 11:29.46 | quique | where should I add that? |
| 11:29.53 | Renze | now why didn't I think of that |
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| 11:30.12 | Desintegr | remove all entries in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 11:30.14 | Renze | quique: empty /etc/resolv.conf, and add the domain's IP to /etc/hosts |
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| 11:30.37 | quique | Renze: I had thought of that, but there are too many hosts in *.mydomain.net |
| 11:30.47 | Renze | ah |
| 11:30.57 | quique | And hosts appear and disappear. |
| 11:30.59 | Renze | and it won't stop people browsing out with IPs anyway |
| 11:31.28 | quique | Well, I don't really mind that - It's just too hard for most users. |
| 11:31.41 | Renze | true |
| 11:31.54 | Desintegr | or use an HTTP proxy |
| 11:32.00 | Desintegr | and force users to use this proxy |
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| 11:32.52 | quique | Desintegr: That could be a nice method. Can you give some hints about how to do that? |
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| 11:34.24 | Desintegr | 1) configure a proxy server |
| 11:34.25 | Renze | quique: install Squid and read the documentation? |
| 11:34.38 | _Black | hi all |
| 11:34.40 | Desintegr | and use KDE Kiosk mode to force user to use this proxy |
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| 11:35.12 | Desintegr | I never use Squid and Kiosk |
| 11:35.33 | quique | Which proxy do you suggest, Desintegr? |
| 11:35.38 | Desintegr | squid ? |
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| 11:36.58 | quique | Ok, I'll do as you said. Thank you all. |
| 11:37.09 | Renze | quique: good luck :) |
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| 11:38.37 | Desintegr | also read http://enterprise.kde.org/articles/kiosk-lp.php and http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/kiosk/index.html |
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| 11:54.10 | benJIman|tov | quique: drop all non appropoved traffic with iptables |
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| 11:55.21 | benJIman|tov | quique: drop everything outgoing and then add a rule to allow to your domain |
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| 12:54.27 | mhterres | morning all |
| 12:54.37 | yoruichi | morning |
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| 12:58.47 | visik7 | afternoon :) |
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| 13:10.42 | visik7 | anyone using akregator ? |
| 13:10.56 | mobtek | yuppers |
| 13:11.08 | visik7 | can I read and mark readed news through dcop ? |
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| 13:20.34 | halux | hi all, someone can help me with a qt compile error ? Looks like an update of the freetype package on my system broke the compilation. I use debian unstable |
| 13:20.46 | halux | This is the error: 3rdparty/opentype/ftxopen.c:18:40: error: freetype/internal/ftstream.h: No such file or directory |
| 13:21.25 | halux | the file exists, but under /usr/include/freetype2/freetype/internal/ftstream.h, symlinking freetype2 to freetype doesn't help |
| 13:22.03 | halux | mhm, gcc uses this: -I/usr/include/freetype2 |
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| 13:27.46 | halux | mhm, solved, file does not exist.... |
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| 13:33.28 | coffeeguy | heya i have a question, i type ./configure --prefix=/opt/kde3 the configure script says it can't find kde headers ? |
| 13:34.22 | yoruichi | coffeeguy: you might need to install kde*-devel pkgs |
| 13:34.28 | yoruichi | what distro? |
| 13:34.35 | pinotree | suse, i suppose |
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| 13:34.47 | pinotree | the only one that install kde in /opt/kde3/ |
| 13:35.04 | pinotree | (by default, of course) |
| 13:35.11 | yoruichi | yea, suse need kde*-devels |
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| 13:35.37 | yoruichi | it's in the CDs |
| 13:36.17 | coffeeguy | aah ok Thanks yoruichi :D |
| 13:36.24 | yoruichi | yw |
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| 13:40.30 | ExitMenu | hello, does anyone know how to bind keyboard volume controls to the pcm rather than master volume , as master volume does nothing on my system |
| 13:40.53 | zeus | slm millet varmı suseci alooo |
| 13:41.10 | pinotree | zeus: aehm... this is an english channel |
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| 13:42.09 | zeus | slm pinotree |
| 13:42.33 | zeus | where are you from |
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| 13:47.09 | ExitMenu | no ideas then I guess ? |
| 13:47.37 | yoruichi | ExitMenu: ou got kmix? |
| 13:47.40 | yoruichi | you* |
| 13:47.44 | ExitMenu | yeh |
| 13:47.45 | LinuxMafia | hi i am trying to use superkaramba i get this error -->"Could not find Mime type Application/octet-stream" |
| 13:48.05 | yoruichi | ExitMenu: select PCM as master volume |
| 13:48.39 | yoruichi | ExitMenu: right click the icon in systray> select master channel |
| 13:48.43 | ExitMenu | I have done that it does not appear to make any differnce and when i reboot it returns to being set to master as master |
| 13:49.21 | yoruichi | hm,, well no clue then :( |
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| 13:49.44 | ExitMenu | ta anyway |
| 13:50.01 | coffeeguy | heya i have an interesting question which is the best sound quality for amarok with kdecontrol sound, having xine and helix as choices? |
| 13:50.17 | yoruichi | xine, for me |
| 13:50.36 | coffeeguy | i use xine too, it sounds pretty good concidering this mobo |
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| 13:57.43 | korzec | hello; where to put icewm theme to use with kde |
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| 14:00.33 | LinuxMafia | all : how do i know stuff i install from superkaramba where it goes? |
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| 14:01.56 | korzec | who knows ;/ it should be on the list |
| 14:02.09 | coffeeguy | when i do yast software installation and it says insert cd 2, i get the error ERROR(Media:file not found)[/media.2/media] |
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| 14:02.32 | pinotree | coffeeguy: --> #suse |
| 14:02.41 | coffeeguy | aaah ok lol sorry |
| 14:02.57 | LinuxMafia | korzec, which list |
| 14:03.24 | LinuxMafia | korzec, i installed liquid wetaher ++ and crystal monitor |
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| 14:03.25 | korzec | LinuxMafia, hm... the list that has on top "get more stuff" or sth like that to download more |
| 14:03.43 | LinuxMafia | korzec, i can run it from there? |
| 14:03.53 | korzec | you should |
| 14:03.58 | korzec | doubleclik on it |
| 14:04.00 | korzec | or sth |
| 14:04.15 | korzec | i dont like karamba :s |
| 14:04.59 | korzec | plz anybody know where to put theme files to use with kcenter theme chooser ?? |
| 14:05.00 | LinuxMafia | nothing happnes |
| 14:05.26 | korzec | maybe "shopw desktop" and look for it somewhere |
| 14:06.50 | korzec | on the list inder the name of the theme should be "1 running" or "%d running" ..... |
| 14:08.25 | LinuxMafia | no |
| 14:08.29 | LinuxMafia | it is not on |
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| 14:09.43 | novata_peleona | you know what package is address manage for kmail?? |
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| 14:10.04 | korzec | i dont |
| 14:10.06 | korzec | ;] |
| 14:10.23 | korzec | i think karabka sux ;] |
| 14:10.28 | korzec | karamba |
| 14:10.38 | fosterfeld | novata_peleona: maybe you mean kaddressbook? |
| 14:11.04 | novata_peleona | yes |
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| 14:13.20 | gemidjy | novata_peleona where ya from? |
| 14:14.12 | novata_peleona | fosterfeld, it was. thx u |
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| 14:40.26 | cwarner | does kde have a bluetooth api? |
| 14:40.57 | cwarner | I need to write an app so that I can send sms messages via bluetooth from my desktop to phone |
| 14:41.36 | pinotree | kdebluetooth |
| 14:42.27 | cwarner | yeah I saw that but is there documentation on the api.. I came across an faq but it didn't have much |
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| 14:44.10 | shinobi2 | how do i make kpanel to display week day next to time clock? |
| 14:45.28 | visik7 | configure clock |
| 14:45.35 | visik7 | display |
| 14:45.38 | visik7 | day of week |
| 14:45.39 | visik7 | ? |
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| 14:48.48 | shinobi2 | on the lower right hand corner, there is a time clock |
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| 14:49.03 | shinobi2 | it does not show week day |
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| 15:07.00 | HS^ | so i can use Qt for free, also on windows, as long as i dont see the application? |
| 15:07.04 | HS^ | sell* |
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| 15:08.10 | LinuxMafia | when i run k3b i get error -->malforemd url file:///home/awatt |
| 15:09.13 | LinuxMafia | "could not find mime type Application/Octet-sream" |
| 15:09.21 | pinotree | kbuildsycoca |
| 15:10.23 | LinuxMafia | pinotree, is it file ? or command? |
| 15:10.32 | pinotree | a command to run in a console |
| 15:10.41 | LinuxMafia | pinotree, thanks |
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| 15:12.27 | nakee | is there some made up CMakelists.txt for the po directory? that handles mo creation and all those things? |
| 15:12.41 | pinotree | nakee: kde4? |
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| 15:14.17 | nakee | pinotree: yea |
| 15:14.26 | pinotree | not yes, afaik |
| 15:14.29 | pinotree | yet* |
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| 15:19.19 | Paradosso | hi everybody |
| 15:19.30 | Paradosso | how do import mail from another maildir folder in kmail? |
| 15:24.25 | pinotree | Paradosso: file -> import messages |
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| 15:26.27 | Paradosso | pinotree, it is greyed out :( |
| 15:26.41 | pinotree | Paradosso: install kmailcvt |
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| 15:57.28 | V`bsd | can someone help me set up kde to use VMware drivers |
| 15:57.52 | oGALAXYo | uhm ? |
| 15:58.05 | oGALAXYo | what VMWARE drivers ? |
| 15:59.30 | V`bsd | or maybe i just need to change the resolution |
| 15:59.48 | oGALAXYo | excuse me.. but what drivers are you refering to ? |
| 15:59.52 | V`bsd | im trying to use konqueror and it is just big |
| 15:59.53 | oGALAXYo | and what do you actually want to do ? |
| 16:00.39 | V`bsd | VMware has their own tools or something like that for each os and when i enable it, something on the inside of any os is supposed to see it |
| 16:00.43 | V`bsd | that make sense |
| 16:01.04 | oGALAXYo | what tools ? |
| 16:01.20 | ub_lt__ | @V`bsd: you need to install the "vmware-tools". There is a menu entry (in host application) to initiate that one. |
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| 16:01.34 | oGALAXYo | i thought vmware-tools is for windows only. |
| 16:01.35 | ub_lt__ | What host os are we talking about? |
| 16:01.54 | V`bsd | bsd |
| 16:02.01 | V`bsd | freebsd |
| 16:02.04 | V`bsd | brb door |
| 16:02.30 | ub_lt__ | @V`bsd: *sigh* should have guessed that... |
| 16:03.36 | ub_lt__ | I don't know vmware for BSD. Can you locate a "Install vmware tools" menu entry? |
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| 16:06.28 | neil_m | how long does QT take to compile again? |
| 16:06.36 | oGALAXYo | Qt |
| 16:06.39 | Desintegr | which CPU/RAM ? |
| 16:06.41 | oGALAXYo | depends on the CPU |
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| 16:06.55 | oGALAXYo | for me it requires around 10 mins |
| 16:06.56 | neil_m | 1600Mhz |
| 16:06.57 | Desintegr | 45 min on AMD64 3000+/1G RAM |
| 16:07.04 | oGALAXYo | 45mins ? |
| 16:07.05 | oGALAXYo | jesus |
| 16:07.21 | neil_m | maybe i should compile it on my AMD64 heh |
| 16:07.23 | oGALAXYo | something must be wrong then |
| 16:07.32 | Desintegr | Thu Apr 6 09:54:21 2006 >>> x11-libs/qt-4.1.2 |
| 16:07.32 | Desintegr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.53 | oGALAXYo | Desintegr: what compiler ? |
| 16:08.03 | Desintegr | gcc |
| 16:08.09 | oGALAXYo | yes yes.. |
| 16:08.12 | oGALAXYo | but what version |
| 16:08.12 | Desintegr | 4.1 I think, on Apr6 |
| 16:08.14 | oGALAXYo | 3 or 4 |
| 16:08.23 | oGALAXYo | what flags ? |
| 16:08.39 | Desintegr | -O2 -pipe |
| 16:08.54 | oGALAXYo | hmmm 45 mins is quite long. |
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| 16:09.03 | oGALAXYo | let me dig out something for you.. |
| 16:09.05 | oGALAXYo | gimme a moment please |
| 16:09.16 | oGALAXYo | i once made a chart for compile time |
| 16:10.17 | oGALAXYo | one moment. |
| 16:10.24 | neil_m | cool man |
| 16:10.25 | Desintegr | 25 min for Qt 3 |
| 16:10.33 | Desintegr | 55 min for Qt 4 |
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| 16:11.00 | martdi | when I try to start kword as a regular user it gives me the following error: koffice (lib kofficecore): WARNING: Library files for ".la" not found in paths. host system is gentoo, kde version: 3.5.2 koffice version: 1.5.0 |
| 16:11.04 | RockMan | ciao |
| 16:11.31 | martdi | but when i run it as root to test, it runs fine |
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| 16:13.09 | oGALAXYo | http://rafb.net/paste/results/OOcKrd76.html |
| 16:13.12 | neil_m | feckin mouse i need to get another optical |
| 16:13.14 | oGALAXYo | Desintegr: ok look at above link |
| 16:13.16 | neil_m | this ball mouse sux0r |
| 16:13.19 | Desintegr | ok |
| 16:13.41 | oGALAXYo | as you can see i need 15 mins to compile qt-copy |
| 16:14.07 | Desintegr | hum |
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| 16:16.11 | Desintegr | ~45 min for kdelibs now |
| 16:16.30 | Desintegr | with gcc 4.1 and |
| 16:16.30 | Desintegr | CFLAGS="-march=athlon64 -O2 -pipe -ftracer -fprefetch-loop-arrays -mfpmath=sse -ffast-math -ftree-vectorize -floop-optimize2" |
| 16:16.30 | Desintegr | CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden" |
| 16:17.38 | oGALAXYo | dude.. |
| 16:17.42 | oGALAXYo | are you insane ? |
| 16:17.52 | oGALAXYo | stop using all the crap flags they are of NO REAL USE |
| 16:17.59 | oGALAXYo | and might end up in crashing kde |
| 16:18.10 | oGALAXYo | -O2 -march=athlon64 -pipe |
| 16:18.12 | Desintegr | no crash :) |
| 16:18.12 | oGALAXYo | is ok |
| 16:18.14 | oGALAXYo | the rest is crap |
| 16:18.21 | bUscher | -O2 -march=athlon64 -pipe < rocks ^^ |
| 16:18.34 | bUscher | (my cflags =P) |
| 16:20.20 | oGALAXYo | you can save compile time by enabling pch |
| 16:20.23 | oGALAXYo | precompiled header files |
| 16:20.36 | oGALAXYo | and you can save even more compile time by going -O0 |
| 16:20.40 | oGALAXYo | it sucks, but compiles fast. |
| 16:20.50 | oGALAXYo | also good for debugging later. |
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| 16:30.10 | V`bsd | back sorry |
| 16:30.25 | V`bsd | yeah i tried initiating vmware tools on the windows side |
| 16:30.31 | V`bsd | and nothing happens in bsd |
| 16:30.54 | V`bsd | its just sitting on Stop vmware tools install |
| 16:31.16 | V`bsd | im a noob to this stuff right now |
| 16:31.29 | V`bsd | well as far as *nix |
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| 16:32.42 | oGALAXYo | V`bsd: ok let us see |
| 16:32.47 | oGALAXYo | V`bsd: you run vmware on windows ? |
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| 16:34.41 | aep | how can i sync my mobile phone with korganizer via bluetooth? (bluetooth works fine) |
| 16:34.51 | V`bsd | yea |
| 16:35.05 | oGALAXYo | V`bsd: ok and you want to run BSD on it ? |
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| 16:37.10 | V`bsd | yea |
| 16:37.17 | V`bsd | bsd is what im running right now |
| 16:37.25 | oGALAXYo | ok bsd on vmware for windows.. |
| 16:37.30 | V`bsd | trying to let the vmware tools aka display drivers to work |
| 16:37.32 | oGALAXYo | and you like to run KDE desktop on it right ? |
| 16:37.45 | oGALAXYo | no, forget about vmware tools |
| 16:37.45 | V`bsd | yea |
| 16:37.48 | oGALAXYo | ok |
| 16:37.56 | oGALAXYo | you need to properly setup your XOrg server |
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| 16:38.06 | oGALAXYo | may you do a screenshot of what you see on vmware ? |
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| 16:38.15 | oGALAXYo | so i can see how your konqueror looks like ? |
| 16:41.24 | V`bsd | ok |
| 16:41.29 | V`bsd | um |
| 16:41.51 | V`bsd | well before i do that can you tell me where to change the resolution |
| 16:42.06 | oGALAXYo | yes you need to configure xorg properly |
| 16:42.28 | oGALAXYo | how you do that is quite tricky and depends on the system you use. |
| 16:42.50 | oGALAXYo | if we see bsd/linux as some sort of 'distribution' like suse, redhat etc. then i can tell you that everyone is doing it differently.. |
| 16:43.10 | oGALAXYo | basicly (the raw way) you edit something like /etc/X11/xorg.conf or XF86Config |
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| 16:44.17 | V`bsd | okay |
| 16:44.40 | oGALAXYo | usually the tool that provides setup of bsd or linux handles Xorg setup as well |
| 16:44.44 | oGALAXYo | look closer to it. |
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| 16:45.48 | V`bsd | k did ksnapshot to take a pic |
| 16:45.53 | V`bsd | hwo can i give u it |
| 16:45.56 | oGALAXYo | no |
| 16:46.02 | oGALAXYo | you make a whole screenshot with windows |
| 16:46.11 | oGALAXYo | ok but you can sent the ksnapshot pic as well |
| 16:46.19 | oGALAXYo | no dont sent it |
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| 16:46.38 | V`bsd | no not with windows |
| 16:46.43 | V`bsd | just the bsd desktop |
| 16:46.46 | oGALAXYo | http://imageshack.us/ |
| 16:46.49 | oGALAXYo | put it up there |
| 16:46.53 | oGALAXYo | and give me the link |
| 16:46.56 | oGALAXYo | ok |
| 16:47.59 | V`bsd | http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot15nm.png |
| 16:48.09 | oGALAXYo | ok |
| 16:48.38 | oGALAXYo | yes |
| 16:48.41 | oGALAXYo | thats clear |
| 16:48.47 | oGALAXYo | you need to setup your xorg config |
| 16:48.52 | oGALAXYo | default is 640x480 as you see |
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| 16:48.54 | V`bsd | okay |
| 16:48.57 | oGALAXYo | thats definately to small |
| 16:49.04 | oGALAXYo | set it to something like 1024x786 or so |
| 16:49.07 | V`bsd | how do i do it? |
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| 16:49.12 | oGALAXYo | as i said above |
| 16:49.21 | oGALAXYo | <oGALAXYo> if we see bsd/linux as some sort of 'distribution' like suse, redhat etc. then i can tell you that everyone is doing it differently.. |
| 16:49.33 | troy | V`bsd: what distro/OS are you using |
| 16:49.37 | oGALAXYo | <oGALAXYo> basicly (the raw way) you edit something like /etc/X11/xorg.conf or XF86Config |
| 16:49.39 | V`bsd | freebsd |
| 16:49.46 | oGALAXYo | <oGALAXYo> usually the tool that provides setup of bsd or linux handles Xorg setup as well - look closer to it. |
| 16:49.55 | oGALAXYo | yes yes freebsd.. |
| 16:50.01 | neil_m | sorry for being noob, i havent built kde from scratch in ages. What's that application that downloads and takes you through the build again |
| 16:50.02 | oGALAXYo | i dont use freebsd.. so i cant tell you |
| 16:50.09 | troy | V`bsd: you pretty much have to edit the config files by hand - but go to #kde-freebsd and see if anyone knows any better way there |
| 16:50.22 | oGALAXYo | well he better go to #freebsd |
| 16:50.27 | oGALAXYo | since its a NOT KDE related problem |
| 16:50.39 | troy | well, they may have a kde related config tool in ports |
| 16:50.49 | oGALAXYo | yes but its not a KDE problem |
| 16:50.57 | oGALAXYo | he needs to setup XOrg properly. |
| 16:51.10 | V`bsd | thanks for the help |
| 16:51.16 | oGALAXYo | ok |
| 16:51.17 | V`bsd | ill brb again |
| 16:51.21 | oGALAXYo | ok |
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| 17:07.37 | lostson | ahh good ol konqueror |
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| 17:09.04 | Julianyus | hi |
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| 17:09.23 | rabauke | hello |
| 17:09.47 | rabauke | Anybody using X.org 6.9 with KDE 3.5.1 or .2? |
| 17:09.55 | oGALAXYo | i do |
| 17:10.22 | lostson | yes |
| 17:10.24 | rabauke | Kmilo seems to not get the XF86AudioRaiseVolume key |
| 17:10.46 | rabauke | the lower still works |
| 17:11.18 | rabauke | I see that there is a difference in xev's output: XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 175 |
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| 18:18.52 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 18:19.05 | rindolf | How do I tell Konqueror 3.4.x that my CSS file is in UTF-8? |
| 18:19.36 | oGALAXYo | you dont.. |
| 18:19.46 | oGALAXYo | there are no chars that would make utf out of a CSS file |
| 18:19.54 | oGALAXYo | you usually tell the html page to be encoded in utf8 |
| 18:22.08 | rindolf | oGALAXYo: well, I have a UTF-8 string in my CSS, and in a page with UTF-8 encoding Konqueror displays it as UTF gibberish. |
| 18:22.29 | oGALAXYo | what does mozilla say ? |
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| 18:24.55 | rindolf | oGALAXYo: Firefox 1.5.0.3 displays it fine. |
| 18:25.13 | oGALAXYo | rindolf: may you join #khtml and report that issue ? |
| 18:26.00 | rindolf | oGALAXYo: yes. |
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| 18:26.51 | Armagguedes | hello |
| 18:27.40 | sredna | Hi ho everybody :-) |
| 18:27.49 | Armagguedes | i've just updated amarok to v1.4.. when i play a file, the sidebar auto-jumps from "playlists" to "context". How do i disable that (in the previous version this did not occur). |
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| 18:34.54 | ziko | hi there |
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| 18:47.31 | xiglet | How can i make "Run command"-applet use aliases? Don't seems like it reads .bashrc |
| 18:48.19 | Blissex | xiglet: '.desktop' |
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| 18:48.30 | LinuxMafia | hi all |
| 18:49.10 | LinuxMafia | kalaram does not ring for me and do not do no action , when i click try it will notice me ythough |
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| 18:49.46 | xiglet | Blissex: I don't have that file, but if I understand you right the trick would be : echo "alias command='command xx" >> ~/.desktop ? |
| 18:50.26 | Blissex | xiglet: no, you need to createa 'something.desktop' file. |
| 18:50.42 | Blissex | xiglet: they are a bit like the '.pif' files of MS Windows. |
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| 18:52.33 | xiglet | Are you sure you got my question right? On my KDE desktop I use the "Run Command"-applet docked on the panel but I want it to use my aliases. They works in bash but not in the applet |
| 18:53.33 | thiago | xiglet: they will not work in the applet |
| 18:53.33 | Blissex | xiglet: ahhh, thats different. |
| 18:53.38 | Blissex | xiglet: the applet does not use the shell. |
| 18:54.23 | xiglet | ok :) tnx .. could just make a script that runs the whole command, that does it for me |
| 18:54.38 | xiglet | God, I love KDE :) |
| 18:55.26 | xiglet | Wonder when KDE will support XGL... |
| 18:56.07 | lostson | tomorrow |
| 18:56.09 | Pinaraf | ho no... not again this stupid question... |
| 18:56.35 | xiglet | Pinaraf: why is that so stupid? |
| 18:57.06 | Pinaraf | because it has no meaning. KDE already works on most X servers, including Xgl. |
| 18:57.27 | xiglet | but it would be ok if you really could use the hardware acceleration |
| 18:57.34 | Pinaraf | wrong again |
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| 18:57.42 | ziko | how can i create a toolbar button that hide all the open windows ? |
| 18:58.02 | Pinaraf | xiglet: Xgl has no specific feature |
| 18:58.37 | Pinaraf | (more exactly : nothing specific concerning desktop environments...) |
| 18:59.12 | CVirus | exactly |
| 18:59.38 | xiglet | Ok, thank you for pointing that out .. what about: Wonder when my KDE desktop will be rendered with hardware acceleration .. wrong again? |
| 18:59.59 | ataxic | ziko: isn't that the function 'show desktop' has? |
| 19:00.20 | Pinaraf | xiglet: wrong again |
| 19:00.48 | Pinaraf | what you can ask is : when will KDE provide a new composite manager, if possible using OpenGl ? |
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| 19:01.28 | xiglet | ok, when will it? :) |
| 19:01.56 | ziko | ataxic> i cant find this function |
| 19:02.23 | xiglet | Of course not highest priority, but would be nice |
| 19:02.25 | ataxic | well there is an icon/action you can add on your taskbar |
| 19:02.40 | ataxic | i thionk its called 'show desktop' |
| 19:03.11 | ataxic | same as the one on Windows |
| 19:03.38 | ataxic | should be on your taskbar by default |
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| 19:05.52 | ziko | ataxic> it wasn't there by default but i found it and add it |
| 19:05.55 | ziko | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.19 | ataxic | k np, I hope it does what you want it to do |
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| 19:10.16 | wayne_ | I have dbus, hal, pmount, and udev working together to add an icon to my desktop automatically for my cd writer, but my usb flash drive won't show when mounted or unmounted |
| 19:10.37 | oGALAXYo | no wonder. |
| 19:11.01 | wayne_ | it used to when I used fstab-sync with hal... |
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| 19:11.19 | oGALAXYo | stop using crap technology |
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| 19:11.45 | wayne_ | crap technology that most every distro employs? |
| 19:11.54 | Fabrizio | alles guten abend |
| 19:12.16 | wayne_ | what do you suggest in its place? |
| 19:12.21 | oGALAXYo | that means what ? just because every distro ships it doesn't necessarily make em good right ? |
| 19:12.36 | oGALAXYo | so, if it was such a supperior thing, you wouldnt come here asking why XYZ wont mount. |
| 19:12.50 | wayne_ | no, but it does mean that it's a legitimate reason to swing by and ask a question |
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| 19:13.46 | ataxic | (oGALAXYo) stop using crap technology, yeh use Windows |
| 19:14.23 | oGALAXYo | look everyone knows that HAL is pure marketing BS from freedesktop. |
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| 19:14.38 | oGALAXYo | dbus makes some sense though - i must admit.. |
| 19:15.23 | oGALAXYo | now if all kernels would provide a nice IPC to dbus then things can straight communicate with the desktop without stuff like hal, pmount and other things.. |
| 19:15.33 | oGALAXYo | no need of ancient /dev /proc /sys stuff.. |
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| 19:16.02 | oGALAXYo | the thing with all the hal, pmount, udev etc stuff is to bypass badly designed and misconcepted kernel design.. |
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| 19:16.32 | oGALAXYo | so people come up with alternatives hacks "ideas" some are good, others bad.. but none of the fits good enough to actually solve the real issue. |
| 19:17.03 | oGALAXYo | we end up in this mess when people join all kind of irc channels asking why their thingy wont mount (because they use sucha supperior thing every distro supplies".. |
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| 19:18.17 | oGALAXYo | use windows isn't the worst suggestion really.. but it doesnt solve the problems existing on linux.. and don't stop people developing crap solutions for a real problem. |
| 19:18.38 | rdale | you're not particularly helping wayne_ to mount his usb flash drive. it works for me on kubuntu |
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| 19:18.54 | oGALAXYo | i know. |
| 19:19.09 | oGALAXYo | my apologizes.. but i did kernel design in former times (nearly 20 years ago).. |
| 19:19.17 | ataxic | thatswhy i use a second box with linux |
| 19:19.31 | ataxic | desktop windows and Putty's with shells |
| 19:19.33 | oGALAXYo | and i feel shocked about the "half" solutions people come up with - and hype them to the best -- better no solution than a half one. |
| 19:20.55 | rdale | maybe, but it's probably just a matter of going to systemsettings and configuring the proper behaviour when a usb flash drive is inserted |
| 19:21.22 | wayne_ | listen, I didn't come in here to get flamed--and my flash drive mounts fine, it's just that the icon doesn't want to show up on the KDE desktop, even though that option is selected in the behavior dialog of desktop config |
| 19:21.37 | wayne_ | and for some reason, my cd writer is working flawlessly |
| 19:22.17 | wayne_ | and it's not really a big deal to me, but I like to make things as easy as possible for my wife, since she's not a computer person, and I am about to wipe windows off my dual boot |
| 19:22.41 | oGALAXYo | wayne_: have you tried kcontrol-center ? |
| 19:22.54 | oGALAXYo | wayne_: there are options to allow devices to show up on the desktop |
| 19:23.31 | oGALAXYo | you can enable/disable what's being shown there.. even USB sticks and stuff like that. |
| 19:23.31 | rdale | he's just said he's tried that |
| 19:23.32 | wayne_ | under Desktop->behavior->device icons? yes |
| 19:23.39 | oGALAXYo | yes |
| 19:24.04 | wayne_ | that's why its' kind of weird... |
| 19:24.09 | wayne_ | *it's |
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| 19:25.29 | wayne_ | I can still work around by creating a link to the device, but the tinkerer in me thought I would try to find out if there's a reason why that setting isn't being followed |
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| 19:41.48 | amjad | Hi |
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| 19:42.11 | amjad | got a problem .. Amarok and KsCD won't play audio CD's |
| 19:42.14 | amjad | any ideas ? |
| 19:42.36 | oGALAXYo | try in #amarok |
| 19:42.38 | oGALAXYo | better help there |
| 19:42.46 | oGALAXYo | oh wait... its you again :) |
| 19:42.55 | amjad | yes oGALAXYo .. it's me again |
| 19:42.56 | amjad | looooooooool |
| 19:43.33 | amjad | so .. i guess we agreed on something after all |
| 19:43.34 | amjad | lol |
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| 19:44.30 | obscurite | anyone know if korganizer/kalarm can wake up a suspended computer to play an alarm? |
| 19:45.10 | obscurite | I want to use a subnotebook as an organizer but I wasn't sure if I could get it to wake up to remind me of appointments/alarms. |
| 19:45.14 | thiago | obscurite: I don't think so |
| 19:45.39 | obscurite | thiago - thanks |
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| 19:48.19 | jrgl | hi.. |
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| 19:50.15 | ironfroggy | If i switch from KOffice to OpenOffice, will i need to convert all my KWord docs first? |
| 19:50.34 | thiago | if you saved them in OpenDocument, no |
| 19:50.46 | ironfroggy | they are kwd files |
| 19:50.55 | oGALAXYo | odf |
| 19:51.06 | oGALAXYo | odt or so |
| 19:51.17 | oGALAXYo | i work with that stuff every day and cant remember the 3 letters |
| 19:51.28 | thiago | ironfroggy: I don't think OOo can open kwd |
| 19:51.42 | ironfroggy | can i batch convert all my kword docs safely? |
| 19:52.00 | jrgl | I was wondering if there is anyone encountering any KDM problem. |
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| 19:52.06 | ironfroggy | my wife and i have several dozen, and i dont want to convert them one-by-one. |
| 19:52.48 | thiago | I am not sure |
| 19:53.16 | ironfroggy | alternatively, is there a way to make kword not suck at opening Word documents? |
| 19:53.29 | jrgl | Weired..My KDM couldn't login to KDE..after I entered the correct password, it always jumped back the KDM login screen |
| 19:53.41 | ironfroggy | jrgl: are you out of harddrive space? |
| 19:53.47 | thiago | ironfroggy: try koconvert |
| 19:53.55 | jrgl | no... |
| 19:53.56 | thiago | koconverter |
| 19:53.56 | ironfroggy | jrgl: switch to console and try a df -h |
| 19:54.17 | jrgl | My HD still has 10G free space |
| 19:54.24 | thiago | ironfroggy: the answer to the other question is to help in KWord hacking |
| 19:54.36 | thiago | jrgl: what does your ~/.xsession-errors say right after that failed login attempt |
| 19:54.36 | ironfroggy | because that can have such a result. just giving a possibility |
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| 19:55.45 | jrgl | ironfroggy: it said I was rejected to connect to ":0.0" |
| 19:56.33 | thiago | jrgl: can you log in to failsafe mode? |
| 19:56.58 | jrgl | thiago: I'm using failsafe mode.. |
| 19:57.30 | thiago | and you can log in? |
| 19:57.45 | jrgl | yes...but not the normal KDE session |
| 19:58.05 | jrgl | I also can use 'startx' to start KDE |
| 19:58.05 | thiago | and what does the .xsession-errors file tell you after the failed attempt? |
| 19:58.41 | jrgl | nothing..except three warning |
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| 19:59.11 | jrgl | konsole: WARNING: Unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop |
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| 19:59.18 | jrgl | This is one of them |
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| 19:59.39 | thiago | are the other ones like that? |
| 19:59.55 | jrgl | yes...all are from konsole |
| 20:00.39 | thiago | what happens if you select "default"? |
| 20:00.53 | jrgl | The same as KDE |
| 20:01.15 | jrgl | jumps back to the KDM login screen |
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| 20:01.54 | jrgl | I was trying to find this bug in debian bug database and mailing list |
| 20:02.11 | thiago | but startx works? |
| 20:02.24 | jrgl | but I couldn't find any other people complaining the same thing recently |
| 20:02.35 | jrgl | yes...startx works very well |
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| 20:04.40 | jrgl | 'AUDIT: Fri May 19 15:43:42 2006: 7874 X: client 2 rejected from local host' |
| 20:05.22 | jrgl | This is the last line in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 20:05.42 | jrgl | thiago: anyway...thanks for your help |
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| 20:12.08 | Red_muze | hi im somehow missing the samba configuratuion plugin in the control center. anyone know anything about that? |
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| 20:14.07 | Blissex | Red_muze: that depends on your distribution, some package it as a separate bit. |
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| 20:17.44 | liquidat | *argh* all my KDE applications suddenly crash with the same error when I close them. |
| 20:17.47 | liquidat | http://rafb.net/paste/results/gtahlN55.html |
| 20:17.55 | liquidat | Anyone seen something like that before? |
| 20:18.19 | pinotree | that paste is rather useless... |
| 20:18.30 | pinotree | don't you have anything more? |
| 20:18.46 | liquidat | That is the surprising - nothing else. |
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| 20:19.18 | liquidat | Just a crash when I exit the KDE applications. No more debug info (the debug packages are installed). |
| 20:19.58 | liquidat | I updated this package today though: libstdc++so7 |
| 20:20.13 | liquidat | It was due to the normal updates of my distri - could that be a root for the problems? |
| 20:20.16 | oGALAXYo | define "update" |
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| 20:20.24 | oGALAXYo | updating how ? |
| 20:20.32 | pinotree | liquidat: you updated from libstdc++6 to libstdc++7 ??? |
| 20:20.42 | oGALAXYo | selfcompiled ? |
| 20:20.56 | liquidat | oGALAXYo: Nope, yum, rpm |
| 20:21.07 | liquidat | pinotree: Nope, the package itself was updated. |
| 20:21.54 | liquidat | That was the only thing I was able to find which changed my system the last day. It's so strange, never seen something like that before.. |
| 20:22.09 | thiago | libstdc++.so.7? |
| 20:22.17 | thiago | they've broken ABI compatibility again? |
| 20:23.10 | oGALAXYo | heh sounds fun |
| 20:23.24 | thiago | liquidat: what is your g++ version? |
| 20:23.44 | liquidat | gcc (GCC) 4.1.0 20060304 (Red Hat 4.1.0-3), thiago |
| 20:24.01 | oGALAXYo | red hack |
| 20:24.18 | thiago | gcc 4.1.0 still uses libstdc++.so.6 |
| 20:24.20 | liquidat | Hm, how du I run gdb against a program? Last time is long ago... |
| 20:24.26 | thiago | liquidat: gdb program |
| 20:24.30 | thiago | then "run" |
| 20:24.33 | troy | oGALAXYo: you can stop slamming distros and stuff any time now... |
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| 20:24.53 | Shirakawasuna | I've been having problems copying+pasting w/ ctrl+c and ctrl+v in konqueror |
| 20:24.56 | liquidat | thiago: Thx, btw.: the libstdc++ has the version 4.1.0 - the so.7 is an additional package. |
| 20:25.14 | oGALAXYo | troy: no |
| 20:25.22 | Shirakawasuna | I'll ctrl+c something and ctrl+v it and it works, but then sometimes no matter how many times I try to copy something, it continually pastes one of my last copied lines |
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| 20:26.10 | liquidat | That's the gdb output - not much more information though... |
| 20:26.11 | liquidat | http://rafb.net/paste/results/XUkADS77.html |
| 20:27.39 | thiago | liquidat: according to Google, if you have libstdc++.so.7, no program should be using it |
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| 20:28.28 | liquidat | thiago: Hm, can't remove it because scim has a dependency on it... |
| 20:28.41 | jrgl | thiago: I got it...it was caused by 'im-switch' |
| 20:28.45 | liquidat | Let's see if I can remove scim also... |
| 20:29.21 | liquidat | jrgl: What do you mean? |
| 20:29.51 | thiago | liquidat: well, if you upgraded libstdc++, make sure that ALL C++ programs were upgraded |
| 20:29.55 | jrgl | liquidat: 'im-switch' let my KDM couldn't login to KDE |
| 20:29.55 | thiago | liquidat: do a full system upgrade |
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| 20:32.42 | liquidat | thiago: I always do - but you misunderstood me: the package libstdc++.so.7 was upgraded - that does only provide this single file. |
| 20:33.03 | thiago | liquidat: is libstdc++.so.6 still present? |
| 20:33.55 | thiago | what distribution are you using? |
| 20:34.13 | liquidat | Fedora Core. |
| 20:34.17 | Shirakawasuna | anyone? konqueror + copying doesn't work properly. That's app-specific, right? |
| 20:34.19 | thiago | Core 6? |
| 20:34.32 | thiago | Shirakawasuna: works properly here. |
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| 20:34.53 | liquidat | thiago: Solved, I think... |
| 20:34.54 | Shirakawasuna | it tends to stop having the ability to copy |
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| 20:35.06 | liquidat | I removed this strange library, and now the programs do not crash anymore... |
| 20:35.09 | thiago | Shirakawasuna: copy what? Files? To clipboard? |
| 20:35.14 | liquidat | At least a first test indicates this... |
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| 20:35.25 | Shirakawasuna | as in even if I right click > copy it will still paste as an older clipboard copy |
| 20:35.27 | thiago | liquidat: libstdc++.so.7 is a non-released library, part of g++ 4.2 (which is not released) |
| 20:35.33 | thiago | liquidat: NOTHING should be using it. |
| 20:35.34 | Shirakawasuna | thiago: as in ctrl+c, ctrl+v |
| 20:35.48 | thiago | Shirakawasuna: right click where? |
| 20:36.00 | Shirakawasuna | thiago: as in select something + right click > copy |
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| 20:36.04 | liquidat | thiago: Looks like Fedora Core is shipping it for scim, the chinese/japanese input system... |
| 20:36.07 | Shirakawasuna | thiago: so it's not my keyboard + keybindings |
| 20:36.12 | oGALAXYo | Shirakawasuna: that name sounds jap ... are you from japan ? |
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| 20:36.20 | liquidat | But I do not really get why other programs are influenced by this, too... |
| 20:36.28 | Shirakawasuna | oGALAXYo: nope, but it is japanese |
| 20:36.39 | oGALAXYo | i see |
| 20:36.39 | thiago | Shirakawasuna: in the browser? |
| 20:36.51 | thiago | liquidat: and scim is loaded as a plugin, right? |
| 20:37.09 | Shirakawasuna | thiago: in the web browsing profile |
| 20:38.18 | liquidat | thiago: Well, I'm not a real developer, but it looks to me like that... |
| 20:38.23 | liquidat | So that's the problem... |
| 20:38.42 | liquidat | Hm, yes, the gdb told it: |
| 20:38.43 | liquidat | ScimInputContextPlugin() |
| 20:38.53 | thiago | Shirakawasuna: should not happen |
| 20:39.09 | thiago | liquidat: well, for one thing, nothing should be using libstdc++.so.7. For another, nothing should be using it :-) |
| 20:39.22 | thiago | liquidat: next, all C++ programs and plugins have to be compiled using the same ABI version. |
| 20:39.46 | thiago | liquidat: so, even if someone were stupid enough to build using a non-released version of g++, it would be even more stupid to do it for a plugin. |
| 20:39.57 | Shirakawasuna | thiago: well it is, I was just wondering if anyone knew how to fix it/what it could be |
| 20:40.06 | thiago | Shirakawasuna: is klipper running? |
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| 20:40.16 | liquidat | thiago: Thanks for the info - although I will use slightly other words in the bug description :D |
| 20:40.17 | Shirakawasuna | thiago: no - is it necessary? |
| 20:40.29 | thiago | Shirakawasuna: no |
| 20:40.34 | thiago | Shirakawasuna: how are you pasting/ |
| 20:40.39 | Shirakawasuna | I don't think I even have it installed |
| 20:40.49 | Shirakawasuna | select, ctrl+c, ctrl+v |
| 20:40.57 | Shirakawasuna | windows style is better, imo |
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| 20:47.44 | Gwyth | What's the KDE application that would be functionally similar to GnomeMeeting, please? (GnomeMeeting provides video and audio conferencing.) |
| 20:47.58 | thiago | none |
| 20:48.13 | Gwyth | okay. |
| 20:48.15 | pinotree | konference |
| 20:48.58 | troy | I think kopete does some video, but no audio... |
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| 20:52.04 | Gwyth | Found konference in Mandriva's 3.5 installation; says version 0.1-alpha. Thanks a lot! |
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| 21:00.03 | Shirakawasuna | does anyone in here know how to make a kde icon theme? |
| 21:00.09 | Shirakawasuna | I can't seem to figure out how |
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| 21:00.44 | Gwyth | In konference, what's supposed to be typed after sip://? |
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| 21:11.25 | _J4Ck | hey gals |
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| 21:48.25 | Shirakawasuna | does anyone know of the app (I can't remember its name) that is essentially a gui-building tool that has bash script support? |
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| 21:50.12 | Shirakawasuna | I could have sworn that I saw one :) |
| 21:50.25 | Shirakawasuna | it looked interesting....I also thought it was named kreator, but it's not.... |
| 21:50.25 | Desintegr | aseigo: what is the theme in this shot http://aseigo.bddf.ca/dms/32/300_ktorrent.png ? |
| 21:50.45 | aseigo | polyester |
| 21:51.00 | Desintegr | ok, thanks |
| 21:51.03 | aseigo | Shirakawasuna: oh ... you mean kommander? |
| 21:51.07 | Shirakawasuna | perhaps :) |
| 21:51.46 | Shirakawasuna | looks like it, although I may have had incorrect first impressions |
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| 21:54.35 | Shirakawasuna | does anyone have any idea on how to make kde icon themes? |
| 21:55.08 | Shirakawasuna | The only part that looks intimidating for me is the index, at least by using the crystal svg icons as a reference |
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| 22:02.00 | marcot | Hello, how do I play a video in noatun? |
| 22:03.45 | stoned | hi |
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| 22:12.06 | timo | how can i open the kde control center with kubuntu 6.06 beta,i can not find it... |
| 22:13.20 | aseigo | they ship with systemsettings in the menu by default ... you can either add kcontrol yourself, or just run "kcontrol" from the run command window |
| 22:14.23 | timo | a very nice... :-) |
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| 22:21.57 | LinuxMafia | some one can help me with kalarm? |
| 22:22.28 | LinuxMafia | http://pastebin.com/727320 |
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| 22:22.55 | V`bsd | um is this a problem, my /etc/x11/ has nothing in it |
| 22:23.43 | LinuxMafia | v0taguz, what distro? |
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| 22:23.58 | v0taguz | Kubuntu |
| 22:24.03 | v0taguz | LinuxMafia: |
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| 22:24.50 | LinuxMafia | v0taguz, locate xorg.conf give you what? |
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| 22:26.02 | penguin43 | Hello, my konqueror has stopped working in Ubuntu; this may well be an ubuntu issue - but apparently everyone else still has it working - the error I get is 'Profile webbrowsing not found' - and thats from the command 'kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing' which seems to be what they use for the menu entry |
| 22:26.36 | penguin43 | 1) Is that a sensible menu entry 2) if so, how do I resurrect that profile |
| 22:28.21 | v0taguz | LinuxMafia: |
| 22:28.24 | v0taguz | try |
| 22:28.28 | v0taguz | in a Konsole |
| 22:28.40 | v0taguz | locate xorg.conf man |
| 22:28.53 | LinuxMafia | ? |
| 22:28.57 | v0taguz | i believe that it here |
| 22:30.29 | v0taguz | LinuxMafia: sorry men but i don´t speak english very well |
| 22:31.13 | LinuxMafia | v0taguz, yeah in terminal try "locate xorg.conf" |
| 22:31.33 | v0taguz | .... |
| 22:31.53 | v0taguz | what are the results ? |
| 22:32.24 | LinuxMafia | do you have any result? |
| 22:32.29 | V`bsd | im trying to do that, but mine says database too small |
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| 22:32.47 | v0taguz | yeah man |
| 22:34.21 | penguin43 | any offers on my Konqueror problem? |
| 22:35.16 | LinuxMafia | v0taguz, if you have no problem so dont worry |
| 22:35.22 | Renze | penguin43: do you have a file called "webbrowsing" in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/profiles/ ? |
| 22:35.47 | penguin43 | Renze: I don't have a profiles sub dir under there! |
| 22:36.10 | Renze | penguin43: how about in $KDEDIR/share/apps/konqueror/profiles/ ? |
| 22:36.34 | penguin43 | can you guess at KDEDIR - or how to find it? |
| 22:36.41 | penguin43 | (It isn't set) |
| 22:36.50 | Renze | penguin43: type kde-config --prefix |
| 22:37.21 | penguin43 | ok, that is /usr and there is no profiles in /usr/share/apps/konqueror |
| 22:37.53 | Renze | penguin43: there is your problem. there needs to be a default profile for webbrowsing there. what distro? |
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| 22:38.31 | penguin43 | Renze: Ubuntu Dapper (beta) - OK, I'll report it as a bug |
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| 22:41.22 | penguin43 | Renze: A guy on #ubuntu+1 is saying it is working for him and he doesn't have that dir either weirdly enogh |
| 22:41.45 | Renze | penguin43: try just running "konqueror" without arguments |
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| 22:42.21 | Renze | penguin43: kde built from source includes a default webbrowsing profile, so if ubuntu doesn't have that, they're changing things |
| 22:42.26 | penguin43 | Renze: That starts me a konqueror, file browsing at my home directory |
| 22:42.52 | Renze | here it starts konqueror in web browsing mode |
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| 22:43.02 | penguin43 | hmm |
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| 22:43.45 | penguin43 | Renze: Other than the start page what else is different in 'web browsing mode' |
| 22:43.51 | linux2 | can someone help me with configureing kicker in kde 3.5.2 |
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| 22:44.04 | linux2 | it seems as if the options for kicker have been removed |
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| 22:44.17 | Renze | penguin43: window size, toolbar layout, sidebar default page... |
| 22:44.59 | penguin43 | Renze: Hmm, well its hard to tell because I haven't got anything to compare it against |
| 22:45.02 | linux2 | anyone have any idea |
| 22:45.04 | linux2 | s? |
| 22:45.06 | linux2 | cause im stuck |
| 22:45.12 | linux2 | with my toolbar being blue |
| 22:45.15 | linux2 | with an image set for it |
| 22:45.19 | Renze | penguin43: seems like ubuntu wants you to use firefox instead :) |
| 22:45.19 | linux2 | and i cannot change it |
| 22:45.42 | Renze | linux2: if you right-click on kicker and select Configure Panel, what happens? |
| 22:45.46 | penguin43 | Renze: Hehe - well I do prefer firefox to be honest, but I like to keep konq around as a backup |
| 22:46.00 | linux2 | Renze: it brings up the configuration panel |
| 22:46.06 | Renze | penguin43: I use konq for all my browsing, and keep firefox around for my internet banking :) |
| 22:46.19 | linux2 | but it does not include options for colors and things like k button background |
| 22:46.28 | penguin43 | Renze: Hehe |
| 22:46.34 | Renze | linux2: no Appearance option on the left side? |
| 22:46.45 | linux2 | Renze: nope |
| 22:46.51 | Renze | linux2: what distro? |
| 22:46.57 | linux2 | Renze: mandriva |
| 22:47.16 | Renze | linux2: ah... they make lots of modifications to kde... go ask in #mandriva |
| 22:47.28 | linux2 | Renze: its not made by mandriva |
| 22:47.48 | Renze | it's not made by KDE either... kde does not make packages for distros |
| 22:47.48 | linux2 | it was a package put together by SOS (or seerofsouls.com i think it is) |
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| 22:48.05 | Renze | linux2: then complain to them |
| 22:48.36 | Renze | linux2: I have 3.5.2 built from source, and I have the Appearance page in Configure Panel |
| 22:48.58 | linux2 | Renze: what distro? |
| 22:49.02 | Renze | gentoo |
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| 22:49.29 | linux2 | Renze: humm i never tried gentoo, it any good? |
| 22:49.51 | Renze | linux2: it's difficult to install, and everything is built from source... not for newbies :) |
| 22:50.33 | linux2 | Renze: well i have been using linux for 3 years so im not exactly a newb and im looking for an upgrade from mandrivas buggines |
| 22:51.01 | Renze | 7 years here, with gentoo for the last 2 |
| 22:51.15 | aseigo | yes, mandriva shipped with a bugy XDG_* env var settings |
| 22:52.24 | aseigo | but then i spend enough of my time compiling software i'm working on that the last thing i want/need is my system compiling -other- people's software. so i like packaged systems =) |
| 22:52.24 | penguin43 | aseigo: Have you got kubuntu dapper in front of you at the moment - recently upt o date? |
| 22:52.30 | aseigo | penguin43: as of this morning |
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| 22:52.50 | penguin43 | aseigo: Can you just look back and see if you have that profile directory me and Renze were just chatting about? |
| 22:53.30 | linux2 | any suggestions on a good bug free distro? |
| 22:53.35 | linux2 | im looking into debian |
| 22:53.39 | aseigo | `kde-config --prefix`/share/apps/konqueror/profiles |
| 22:53.47 | linux2 | but as of my last few runs with it i didn't like it |
| 22:54.04 | penguin43 | linux2: I'm using Ubuntu; think Debian but more upto date and more things work |
| 22:54.21 | penguin43 | aseigo: So that dir is there? Can you use a dpkg -S to find out which package its from? |
| 22:54.27 | linux2 | penguin43: i tried kubuntu but was really dissapointed |
| 22:54.35 | penguin43 | linux2: In what way? |
| 22:54.41 | penguin43 | eep - I wonder why I'm 43 here |
| 22:54.46 | aseigo | penguin43: no. they are in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror/profiles |
| 22:54.56 | aseigo | penguin43: kubuntu sets up extra KDEDIRS |
| 22:55.15 | aseigo | penguin43: do `kde-config --path data` |
| 22:55.41 | penguin43 | aseigo: ahhhh! So for me I get /home/dg/.kde/share/apps/:/usr/share/apps/ |
| 22:55.53 | Renze | both of which don't have any profiles |
| 22:55.59 | linux2 | penguin43: well it just seemed to just have a bad look and feel to it |
| 22:56.17 | linux2 | idk i have just always liked mandriva cause of its feel to it from the start but its not worth all the bugs |
| 22:56.20 | penguin43 | aseigo: So WTF sets up the extra KDEDIRS? |
| 22:56.25 | aseigo | linux2: which version of it? |
| 22:56.41 | aseigo | linux2: hoary was pretty bad; it was an alpha release really |
| 22:56.42 | penguin43 | linux2: IMHO most distros have bugs, I'd suggest looking at SuSE perhaps as another good KDE supporter |
| 22:56.50 | aseigo | linux2: breezy was so-so .. dapper is shaping up to be pretty good |
| 22:57.06 | aseigo | yeah, SUSE is another good distro... though i'd probably stick with 10.0 at this point |
| 22:57.09 | linux2 | aseigo: i think it was hoary |
| 22:57.16 | aseigo | it was a lot more solid than 10.1 seems to be |
| 22:57.20 | linux2 | penguin43: never liked suse |
| 22:57.34 | penguin43 | aseigo: Because this used to work under hoary and I'm sure dapper until a few days ago |
| 22:58.08 | aseigo | penguin43: look in /etc/kderc for one |
| 22:58.38 | penguin43 | aseigo: Ah interesting, I don't have a /etc/kderc - I have an /etc/kderc.dpkg-new |
| 22:58.38 | aseigo | penguin43: XDG_DATA_DIRS for another |
| 22:59.34 | aseigo | that might be the problem =) |
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| 23:10.40 | penguin43 | aseigo: Can you just do a dpkg -S on your /etc/kderc please |
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| 23:11.40 | aseigo | no |
| 23:11.48 | penguin43 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:12.24 | aseigo | aseigo@freedom:~/src/reshaked$ dpkg -S /etc/kderc |
| 23:12.24 | aseigo | kubuntu-default-settings: /etc/kderc |
| 23:13.02 | aseigo | penguin43: ^ |
| 23:13.08 | penguin43 | Thanks |
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| 23:13.32 | aseigo | np |
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| 23:14.36 | penguin43 | hmm, so I've just done an upgrade and updated kubuntu-default-settings - and removed that file |
| 23:14.58 | penguin43 | even though it shows up in a dpkg -L |
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| 23:18.16 | allix | what does this mean in konsole Uh oh.. can't write data.. ? |
| 23:18.26 | penguin43 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.31 | penguin43 | or where you are logging to? |
| 23:18.40 | allix | normal user |
| 23:19.07 | allix | allix@allix:~$ df -h |
| 23:19.07 | allix | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 23:19.07 | allix | /dev/sda6 47G 8.7G 38G 19% / |
| 23:19.08 | allix | /dev/sda7 68G 34G 34G 50% /mnt/allix |
| 23:19.13 | allix | its seems fine |
| 23:19.31 | allix | could it be permissions? |
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| 23:21.41 | Benzi455 | Hi, can anyone help me fix the audio CD browser? I tell it to search for '/' in the file name and replace it with ',' but for some reason it doesn't work |
| 23:22.43 | allix | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 91888 2006-05-19 23:32 /opt/kde/bin/quadkonsole* |
| 23:22.51 | allix | thats the permissions on the file |
| 23:23.10 | allix | i think thats why its wrong |
| 23:23.22 | Benzi455 | (configured at kcontrol, and affecting konqueror's audiocd:/ ioslave) |
| 23:26.15 | Gwyth | In konference, what's supposed to be typed after sip://? Anyone knows? |
| 23:29.01 | penguin43 | aseigo: Thanks - I'm filing a package bug against kubuntu-default-settings which owns the file; I can see it if I unpack it - but it isn't creating the file in the filesystem |
| 23:32.58 | penguin43 | thanks guys |
| 23:36.50 | Benzi455 | tell Gwyth maybe an IP? |
| 23:37.03 | Benzi455 | whoops, this is not FICS |
| 23:37.06 | Benzi455 | sorry :) |
| 23:37.19 | Benzi455 | Gwyth: maybe an IP or hostname? |
| 23:40.20 | Gwyth | Benzi455: so, if I need to conference with you, for example, I would need to know your IP? don't know... that doesn't sound very convincing... I used some conferencing software on Windows (forget the name), didn't need to know any IP... guess reading on this is in store. |
| 23:40.53 | allix | 3~where is the default konsole config file |
| 23:41.03 | allix | i am going to tell quadkonsole to use that |
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