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| 00:00.11 | jong | linux_galore: no, but embedding a complete OS in cheap hardware hasn't been possible until the last 15 years |
| 00:00.42 | hlieberman | Who was it who recommended workrave to me a few minutes ago? |
| 00:00.42 | linux_galore | jong: 15 years, sorry try we have been doing that for over 25 |
| 00:00.52 | jong | linux_galore: and before, these areas were covered by special OSes, it's just that linux has a heritage to 386/486 chips which are really cheap right now |
| 00:01.02 | jong | linux_galore: not in cheap hardware |
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| 00:01.48 | linux_galore | jong: I had a VoIP telephone in manufacture here in Sydney in 1986 with a built in OS |
| 00:02.06 | linux_galore | it was called the Lanex |
| 00:02.11 | jong | linux_galore: heh :) |
| 00:02.40 | linux_galore | the management was all dont in VMS |
| 00:03.03 | linux_galore | very stable too. 80 nodes per token ring |
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| 00:03.52 | linux_galore | company went broke because people just didnt get it at the time they were used to none distributed call systems |
| 00:04.00 | jong | linux_galore: well, with OS I meant a more complex OS with preemptive capabilities, memory management, filesystem, etc. |
| 00:04.14 | hlieberman | Anyway, I'm having some trouble with it. Every time it prompts me for a microbreak, and when I try to click on it, it just pops up to the top (or bottom, depending) of the screen. |
| 00:04.33 | jong | hlieberman: oh, that was me, I missed your line |
| 00:04.45 | jong | hlieberman: just do nothing |
| 00:05.08 | jong | hlieberman: then you get a microbreak window, which will count down... |
| 00:05.13 | hlieberman | jong, But then it complains that I missed the microbreak. |
| 00:05.19 | jong | hlieberman: ? |
| 00:05.29 | jong | hlieberman: thats odd :) |
| 00:05.29 | hlieberman | jong, Here. it's due to happen in a few seconds. |
| 00:05.40 | hlieberman | jong, or... not. |
| 00:05.59 | linux_galore | jong: yeah that was one of the headaches for the mars rover mission there wasnt much in the way of OS's that did everything at an embedded level in 1993 when they tendered the contracts |
| 00:06.33 | jong | linux_galore: it all depends on the level of abstraction |
| 00:06.39 | jong | hlieberman: does it work now? |
| 00:07.09 | hlieberman | jong, No... now it seems just to be ignoring the microbreaks. |
| 00:07.16 | linux_galore | jong: had some idiot in 2002 ask why the mars rovers didnt run Linux if it was that good, well the tender was done in 1993 and at that time there were 2 choices lol neither being a Microsoft solution either |
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| 00:07.35 | jong | hlieberman: uhm, if you do nothing anyways, it will count this as a microbreak anyways... |
| 00:07.57 | jong | linux_galore: no, but MS wasn't aiming for that market |
| 00:08.05 | caffei | is there a command to switch to another X desktop? I can do it with the KDE 'Switch User' menu, but no such menu exists on the other display ;o (reaching for ctrl-alt-Fx is sometimes inconvenient) |
| 00:08.20 | jong | linux_galore: btw, at that time there were some pretty good choices available which did RT scheduling and memory managemnt |
| 00:08.25 | linux_galore | jong: well the market didnt exist back then. portable devices were a geek thing |
| 00:08.33 | hlieberman | jong, OK. Now the micro-break thing is flashing, and all sad. |
| 00:08.38 | benJIman | caffei: you mean on the second sesion you've started? |
| 00:08.45 | caffei | benJIman, yep |
| 00:08.46 | hlieberman | jong, and it's impossible to click on. |
| 00:08.59 | jong | hlieberman: when it is flashing, just leave mouse and keyboard, don't try to click it :) |
| 00:09.06 | hlieberman | jong, Ahh... |
| 00:09.10 | jong | hlieberman: :) |
| 00:09.16 | caffei | benJIman, hoping there's a command that I can run so I can perhaps add a menu to the second display's wm to do it |
| 00:09.21 | jong | hlieberman: its an indication that you should take a short rest |
| 00:09.42 | hlieberman | jong, But it doesn't stop counting down, into the negatives. |
| 00:09.46 | linux_galore | caffei: ctrl alt F1 login then type xinit /usr/bin/startkde (or startgnome or startxfce) -- :1 |
| 00:10.08 | jong | linux_galore: the embedded market was there, but it was not as refined since the applications didn't need multiple processes, pre-empting, etc. etc. and when it was necesarry, it was mostly baked in HW |
| 00:10.17 | linux_galore | caffei: your old session will still be on ctrl alt F7 usually |
| 00:10.26 | caffei | linux_galore, I already have a display on :1, I just want to know whether or not I can run a command to switch back to :0 without using ctrl-alt-F7 |
| 00:10.39 | linux_galore | caffei: aaah |
| 00:10.45 | caffei | linux_galore, KDE has a 'Switch User' menu, but the wm I'm using on :1 doesn't :o |
| 00:10.49 | linux_galore | caffei: never tried it so i cant be sure |
| 00:10.55 | jong | hlieberman: really? you don't see a window in the middle of the screen? |
| 00:11.02 | hlieberman | jong, None. |
| 00:11.07 | linux_galore | caffei: kde only works within the X session |
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| 00:11.15 | jong | hlieberman: thats really odd, I've never seen such a thing |
| 00:11.25 | caffei | linux_galore, .... |
| 00:11.41 | jong | hlieberman: one moment |
| 00:11.48 | caffei | linux_galore, I can go to the KMenu, Switch User, and each X session is displayed (along with an option to create a new one) |
| 00:11.52 | linux_galore | caffei: when you open a new kde session it also starts a new X session |
| 00:11.54 | Smak | someone needs to fix the eject feature one KAudioCreater! |
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| 00:12.24 | linux_galore | caffei: the new sessions process has nothing to do with the old one so the kde sessions is on a totally separate tree |
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| 00:12.42 | caffei | linux_galore, you're misunderstanding me; I just want to know whether or not there's a command that is functionally equivalent to Ctrl-Alt-Fx |
| 00:12.43 | jong | hlieberman: well, I have workrave running now, but havn't seen a single pop-up yet (prolly because I've waited between writing something) |
| 00:12.52 | linux_galore | caffei: no |
| 00:12.54 | caffei | linux_galore, since the wm on :1 has no such menu |
| 00:13.11 | hlieberman | jong, Hmm... can I pm you, don't want to flood the channel with off-topic stuff. |
| 00:13.18 | caffei | linux_galore, there must be, since I'm able to switch to another display with a KMenu option |
| 00:13.19 | jong | hlieberman: np |
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| 00:13.40 | linux_galore | caffei: that not a new X sessions that the same x session |
| 00:14.09 | caffei | linux_galore, I'm not talking about virtual desktops. |
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| 00:14.17 | linux_galore | caffei: your swapping from one branch to another in the same tree, with ctrl alt F? your swapping tree's |
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| 00:14.53 | caffei | linux_galore, before you continue on this mad quest to misunderstand me, let me take a screenshot =P |
| 00:16.00 | linux_galore | caffei: aaah sorry never used that, dont worry Im such a geek I never use the automatic sessions tool |
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| 00:16.39 | linux_galore | caffei: suspect there is a dcop thing for it |
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| 00:17.19 | caffei | linux_galore, hrm, perhaps... but that wouldn't work if I'm not running KDE on :1 |
| 00:17.44 | linux_galore | caffei: aaah |
| 00:17.59 | linux_galore | yeah kde can share those things |
| 00:20.41 | caffei | linux_galore, http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/2522/grr4dc.jpg <--- that's what I'm talking about, fyi |
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| 00:21.23 | IceD^ | btw - what about kwin + xgl - any work in progress? |
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| 00:24.31 | linux_galore | hmm |
| 00:24.39 | linux_galore | caffei: I get the same |
| 00:25.35 | caffei | linux_galore, aye, and I'm just wondering how I can do that from blackbox without having to reach for Ctrl-Alt-F7 ;^) |
| 00:25.41 | Blissex | IceD^: it ''just works''. There is even an article in Linux Format IIRC about that. How the kcompmgr and KWin integrate or do the same work as with Compiz |
| 00:25.45 | caffei | maybe I'm just too lazy |
| 00:26.11 | Blissex | IceD^: but some influential KDE devels think with good reasoning that XGL is the wrong way |
| 00:26.27 | linux_galore | caffei: goto be lazt not to press ctrl alt F7 to change sessions |
| 00:26.31 | linux_galore | lazy* |
| 00:26.34 | caffei | :D |
| 00:27.43 | IceD^ | Blissex: wow |
| 00:27.43 | IceD^ | Blissex: 1. link pls |
| 00:27.47 | IceD^ | 2. why it's wrong way |
| 00:28.08 | IceD^ | drawing windows using GL is good thing |
| 00:28.12 | Blissex | IceD^: 1. somewhere on the RSS feed of PlanetKDE, can have a look if you want. |
| 00:28.17 | Skrot | Speaking of compiz, does anyone know if progress is made on kde-window-decorator? Still only Zack hacking on it? |
| 00:28.22 | IceD^ | Blissex: please... |
| 00:28.39 | linux_galore | yeah i was listening to a podcast recently , trying to remember which kde dev it was who was talking about XGL, he works for novel |
| 00:28.48 | Blissex | IceD^: 2. basically he argues that such stuff should be in the server, not in a library on which the server is based. Also, it is a damn gimmick (my addition). |
| 00:29.14 | IceD^ | stop stop stop |
| 00:29.17 | benJIman | Blissex: it's not just a gimmik, 2d rendering especially with nvidia drivers is incredibly slow |
| 00:29.20 | IceD^ | as I understand it IS in server |
| 00:29.26 | IceD^ | Xgl binary |
| 00:29.42 | benJIman | IceD^: ultimately there will be xegl but that requires major changes to drivers etc |
| 00:29.44 | Blissex | IceD^: yes, but it is a kind of ''extraneous'' part of the server. |
| 00:29.50 | benJIman | xgl just works right now |
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| 00:30.07 | IceD^ | it IS server |
| 00:30.13 | IceD^ | just `customized` build |
| 00:30.18 | benJIman | xgl is a server runs ontop of standard x server |
| 00:30.18 | Skrot | IceD^: Xgl can't run without Xorg |
| 00:30.24 | straw | it's the server on top of a server aspect that folks have issues with was my impression |
| 00:30.29 | linux_galore | basically XGL works but its still not finnished yet but some stuff will be coming out for kde soon |
| 00:30.30 | IceD^ | benJIman: really? |
| 00:30.33 | IceD^ | hmm |
| 00:30.42 | benJIman | it isn't intended to be a final solution but it means things will work right now |
| 00:30.51 | Skrot | IceD^: Read about it on freedesktop already :> |
| 00:30.52 | benJIman | xegl will require new drivers for everything |
| 00:31.02 | Krobelus | does opengl apps affect xgl? |
| 00:31.03 | benJIman | and xair doesn't really solve the problem |
| 00:31.11 | benJIman | Krobelus: they still work |
| 00:31.20 | benJIman | you can even run them transparent and such |
| 00:31.36 | benJIman | however due to how XGL works you can't have it render directly in full screen mode which sucks rather |
| 00:31.39 | Skrot | xair? As in aiglx? |
| 00:31.43 | benJIman | Skrot: yes |
| 00:32.05 | benJIman | it doesn't use glx for everything |
| 00:32.10 | Skrot | I know |
| 00:32.19 | benJIman | and especially nvidia's 2d rendering is absolutely shockingly slow |
| 00:32.33 | Skrot | But it runs much better on my intel i915 |
| 00:32.43 | benJIman | X feels so much more responsive using xgl |
| 00:33.18 | linux_galore | aiglx is more a big hack or Xorg |
| 00:33.33 | linux_galore | of* |
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| 00:33.45 | benJIman | xegl seems to be the best thing, but won't work for some time |
| 00:34.19 | Skrot | Indeed |
| 00:34.19 | linux_galore | yeah should be interesting, render wars in the making |
| 00:34.31 | straw | Xair/aiglx is the accelerated indirect rendering branch of X as i understand it |
| 00:34.44 | Skrot | Well, xgl has always set out to be a temporary solution? |
| 00:35.04 | linux_galore | Skrot: no its a full on product |
| 00:35.15 | benJIman | linux_galore: i'm not sure it's intended to be a final solution |
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| 00:35.39 | linux_galore | well novel have set it to be a final solution |
| 00:35.39 | benJIman | compiz which provides the effects will work just as well on aiglx in theory |
| 00:35.58 | benJIman | linux_galore: that's just their PR |
| 00:35.59 | Skrot | benJIman: yes. compiz works great with aiglx. |
| 00:36.02 | linux_galore | how the community reacts to all this is another thing |
| 00:36.04 | Skrot | Seeing how I'm using it right now |
| 00:36.48 | linux_galore | as i said, this is all a big evolution thing in the making, the seek code shall die |
| 00:36.50 | benJIman | Skrot: does aiglx have the hack to use mesa for the render_texture extension nvidia drivers are currently missing? |
| 00:36.54 | linux_galore | week* |
| 00:37.01 | linux_galore | weak oops |
| 00:37.16 | Skrot | benJIman: Dunno about nVidia, I'm using Intel |
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| 00:37.28 | Skrot | And I haven't looked at the code at all |
| 00:37.35 | py1nb_linux | how do I change the fonts dpi in kde? |
| 00:37.37 | benJIman | linux_galore: I think perhaps you're misunderstanding the situation, I don't think the X developers disagree that much about where they'd like to be eventually |
| 00:37.47 | linux_galore | py1nb_linux: kcontrol |
| 00:37.54 | benJIman | linux_galore: you can't edit it there afaik |
| 00:38.08 | benJIman | you have to edit the Xservers file |
| 00:38.09 | Blissex | IceD^: Can't quite find the article I was thinking of -- still searching. |
| 00:38.59 | py1nb_linux | linux_galore: where? under looknfeel/fonts? I could not find it there |
| 00:39.05 | Skrot | benJIman: I think the developers behind aiglx want to do this in smaller steps than the x(e)gl base.. |
| 00:39.09 | benJIman | py1nb_linux: no you cant |
| 00:39.59 | benJIman | py1nb_linux: open the Xservers file that kdm uses, will depend on your distro where it is kept |
| 00:40.16 | py1nb_linux | ok, do u know the section in the x file? |
| 00:40.19 | linux_galore | py1nb_linux: yeah look and feel |
| 00:40.33 | benJIman | linux_galore: no you can't adjust it there |
| 00:40.38 | benJIman | py1nb_linux: not xorg.conf |
| 00:41.01 | linux_galore | benJIman: can on my setup |
| 00:41.09 | benJIman | linux_galore: I very much doubt it |
| 00:41.13 | benJIman | you can adjust the size, that's not the same thing |
| 00:41.25 | linux_galore | benJIman: we talking about the kde fonts or the x stuff |
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| 00:41.46 | straw | use the DisplaySize directive in xorg.conf |
| 00:41.53 | py1nb_linux | I recompiled freetype with BCI suppirt, and I want to check it with different dpi |
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| 00:41.55 | benJIman | linux_galore: s/he asked about the dpi of the fonts |
| 00:41.59 | benJIman | font size != dpi |
| 00:42.13 | benJIman | py1nb_linux: on suse it's /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers |
| 00:42.20 | linux_galore | benJIman: aah the dpi setting |
| 00:42.30 | benJIman | py1nb_linux: edit the line there to something like ":0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp -br vt7" |
| 00:42.34 | benJIman | to force to 100dpi |
| 00:42.38 | py1nb_linux | running mandriva here, found xorg.conf |
| 00:42.39 | benJIman | nb the parameters have to be in that order |
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| 00:42.49 | benJIman | py1nb_linux: no, I just said /not/ xorg.conf |
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| 00:43.11 | py1nb_linux | ah, ok :) |
| 00:43.41 | linux_galore | I think mandriva has a menu thing in mcc to set the default size |
| 00:43.56 | benJIman | Skrot: ooi does xair support xinerama? |
| 00:44.10 | benJIman | linux_galore: not default size, dpi |
| 00:44.15 | Skrot | benJIman: Don't have two screens :> |
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| 00:45.07 | py1nb_linux | I couldnt find that on mcc |
| 00:45.17 | benJIman | py1nb_linux: just edit that file if it exists |
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| 00:45.53 | benJIman | if you want the "correct" dpi to be chosen automatically you can just specify the display dimensions in xorg.conf or use your distro tools, sax2 can do that on suse |
| 00:46.07 | benJIman | but if you want microsoft fonts to render best you're probably best off using 96 or 100 dpi |
| 00:46.58 | py1nb | there is no sax2 in mandriva |
| 00:47.24 | py1nb | they seem too small on 96dpi, I would like to try 100 or more |
| 00:48.15 | linux_galore | py1nb: make sure you install the 100dpi xorg package |
| 00:48.29 | py1nb | I am running ms fonts on x |
| 00:48.51 | benJIman | py1nb: the size is set independantly |
| 00:49.01 | benJIman | py1nb: try setting to 96 or 100 then adjusting the size in kcontrol |
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| 00:49.41 | py1nb | I could not find yet where to change the dpi |
| 00:49.50 | RobBarton | Can anyone recommend a music ripper that utalizes cdpraranoia (and of course, does cddb scans) |
| 00:50.00 | Blissex | py1nb: thanks for letting us know :-) |
| 00:50.11 | py1nb | :) |
| 00:50.12 | Blissex | RobBarton: heretically speaking, GRiP. |
| 00:50.13 | straw | py1nb: which X driver? |
| 00:50.17 | benJIman | py1nb: eidt the file I said |
| 00:50.39 | py1nb | benJIman: I lost the # log, could you post it again? |
| 00:50.54 | RobBarton | Blissex, Heh. |
| 00:50.58 | benJIman | [00:42] <benJIman> py1nb_linux: on suse it's /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers |
| 00:50.58 | benJIman | [00:42] <benJIman> py1nb_linux: edit the line there to something like ":0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp -br vt7" |
| 00:51.02 | RobBarton | Blissex, Heriticicy is fine for me. :) |
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| 00:51.19 | py1nb | ok, same on madriva |
| 00:52.10 | benJIman | ensure the -dpi 100 is before the -nolisten tcp |
| 00:53.00 | py1nb | ok, I removed the nolistentcp thing |
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| 00:53.12 | benJIman | no don't remove that |
| 00:53.24 | benJIman | you don't want it listening on tcp I would assume |
| 00:53.32 | linux_galore | py1nb: in this forum someone explains how to fix your fonts, about 1/3 of the way down he talks about setting the dpi settings -> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=257705 |
| 00:53.47 | py1nb | I am running ltsp, the box is behind a dsl router |
| 00:54.13 | py1nb | ok, checking the url |
| 00:55.06 | linux_galore | py1nb: just search on DPI section 2 explains it all |
| 00:55.16 | linux_galore | within the page |
| 00:56.08 | benJIman | py1nb: no need to do crazy things though |
| 00:57.39 | Blissex | py1nb: actually there are _two_ ways to set the DPI, one is the '-dpi 100', the other to set the size of the screen in millimiters in 'xorg.conf' or whatever. |
| 00:58.06 | linux_galore | Blissex: that howto I posted goes into it all even shows you what to change and why |
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| 00:59.02 | vaxen | how can I view whats inside an ISO file with konqueror? |
| 00:59.09 | benJIman | Blissex: i allready mentioned this |
| 00:59.39 | linux_galore | vaxen: loop |
| 00:59.54 | py1nb | ok |
| 01:00.07 | Blissex | benJIman: linux_galore: sorry missed it in the scrolling. |
| 01:00.14 | vaxen | linux_galore: care to explain more? |
| 01:00.28 | vaxen | linux_galore: you mean mount the iso as a loop device? |
| 01:00.28 | Blissex | vaxen: more verbosely: 'mount -o ro,loop .... ....' |
| 01:00.39 | linux_galore | vaxen: yes then view it |
| 01:01.12 | vaxen | I remember kde 3.4.x allows me to use konqueror to view by just clicking it |
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| 01:01.28 | vaxen | or might be 3.3.x |
| 01:01.55 | py1nb | thats weird, I changed it to 350dpi, and the fonts still small, altough xdpyinfo says I have 350dpi |
| 01:02.15 | straw | heh |
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| 01:02.47 | flaccid | rightio |
| 01:03.09 | Blissex | py1nb: probably a non scalable font, and/or it is being select by pixel size, not point size. |
| 01:03.15 | linux_galore | py1nb: did you resart X |
| 01:03.32 | py1nb | using startx |
| 01:03.33 | Ringwraith` | put some pepper on X too |
| 01:03.38 | flaccid | it seems that when i boot into gnome then out then in with kde, it stuffs something up in the profile that they must share and i cannot edit the k menu by right click |
| 01:03.39 | Ringwraith` | and bbq sauce while your at it |
| 01:03.41 | flaccid | ne1 have any ideas |
| 01:03.59 | Ringwraith` | flaccid, who is ne1? |
| 01:04.07 | flaccid | anyone |
| 01:04.36 | straw | Ringwraith`: s/your/you're/ |
| 01:04.48 | Ringwraith` | flaccid, who is ne1? |
| 01:04.54 | Ringwraith` | er straw, who is ne1? |
| 01:05.16 | straw | that'd be you, dude |
| 01:05.27 | flaccid | ne1 with bbq sauce |
| 01:05.47 | Ringwraith` | flaccid, who is ne1? |
| 01:05.58 | straw | oh hush |
| 01:06.07 | flaccid | anyone with pepper sauce |
| 01:06.27 | flaccid | whats the correct way to change gdm to kdm? |
| 01:06.38 | flaccid | as the default |
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| 01:07.05 | straw | depends on the distro |
| 01:07.19 | flaccid | i'm on FC3 |
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| 01:08.05 | straw | add DISPLAYMANAGER=kde to /etc/sysconfig/desktop iirc |
| 01:08.16 | benJIman | on suse there's an /etc/sysconfig variable you can edit with yast, probably fedora has a similar variable |
| 01:08.26 | straw | err, DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE |
| 01:08.38 | benJIman | kdm? |
| 01:08.50 | straw | coule be |
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| 01:10.32 | py1nb | ok, thnak you for help, folks |
| 01:11.44 | flaccid | and make DESKTOP="KDE" for kde to be default window manager? |
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| 01:13.13 | straw | flaccid: right |
| 01:13.25 | flaccid | thank u straw |
| 01:13.40 | straw | no sweat |
| 01:13.49 | vaxen | so there are no plugin for konqueror to auto mount iso files? |
| 01:14.06 | linux_galore | vaxen: think this is what your looking for -> http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Mount-ISO-image-Download-2216.html |
| 01:14.27 | KanRiNiN | is anyone in here familiar with krpmbuilder? |
| 01:14.37 | straw | vaxen: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=11577 |
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| 01:14.58 | vaxen | i wonder how my old system manages to automount by it self. weird |
| 01:15.00 | linux_galore | straw: lol beat you |
| 01:15.06 | vaxen | must have done something i forgot |
| 01:15.28 | straw | oh, heheh |
| 01:15.37 | linux_galore | vaxen: I expect you install a kde extras package or something |
| 01:15.46 | straw | didn't realize it was the same |
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| 01:15.52 | vaxen | probably |
| 01:16.07 | flaccid | brb |
| 01:16.16 | vaxen | wouldn't it be great if konqueror have a right-click on the file to allow you to mount loopback devices |
| 01:16.17 | linux_galore | vaxen: happens allot you install a package then later you do a new install and forget you installed it before |
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| 01:16.41 | linux_galore | vaxen: not everyone wants it or needs it |
| 01:17.13 | linux_galore | vaxen: if I put every konq plugin as standard konq would be like mozilla |
| 01:17.19 | vaxen | i think its a great option, as you want to see whats inside before you burn it or even just need a small file inside the iso |
| 01:17.48 | linux_galore | vaxen: I never use it, so it depends on the user |
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| 01:18.06 | flaccid | cool it worked |
| 01:18.21 | flaccid | and now how do i change the background color/image of kdm and other kdm settings? |
| 01:18.55 | straw | kcontrol |
| 01:19.01 | flaccid | sweet |
| 01:19.04 | flaccid | thanks straw br0z |
| 01:19.22 | flaccid | somehow gnome was conflicting something in profile |
| 01:19.58 | flaccid | i like the search function in kcontrol |
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| 01:25.16 | linux_galore | flaccid: look up moodlin, you can have an animated login splash for kde with it |
| 01:25.44 | flaccid | coolio y0 |
| 01:25.45 | linux_galore | flaccid: change the themes in kcontrol-look and feel-splash after its installed |
| 01:26.16 | linux_galore | flaccid: you on mandriva ?? |
| 01:26.22 | flaccid | nah fc3 |
| 01:26.27 | linux_galore | aaah |
| 01:27.08 | linux_galore | http://rpm.pbone.net/ |
| 01:27.13 | linux_galore | should help |
| 01:28.25 | wampus | i know this belongs in #koffice but everyone in there is dead i think.... Having a hard time resolving dependencies for koffice 1.4.2 |
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| 01:28.50 | wampus | ./configure error: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! |
| 01:29.12 | HuntsMan | wampus: what distro are you using? |
| 01:29.20 | wampus | FC4 |
| 01:29.23 | flaccid | that didnt seem to work |
| 01:29.31 | flaccid | changed the background image, it didn't change |
| 01:29.45 | linux_galore | HuntsMan: did you install the QT dev package |
| 01:29.54 | HuntsMan | linux_galore: tell that to wampus :P |
| 01:29.59 | linux_galore | oops |
| 01:30.01 | linux_galore | lol |
| 01:30.15 | linux_galore | wampus: did you install the qt dev package |
| 01:30.16 | HuntsMan | wampus: basically, you need to install something like libqt3-devel |
| 01:30.19 | wampus | lol....i thought. i have hunted all through yum |
| 01:30.47 | vaxen | kwifimanager keeps complaining that i don't have the path for iwlist, I know iwlist requires root to run, besides making iwlist suid. Do I have other options? |
| 01:31.07 | linux_galore | wampus: yeah, just wondering did you select "developer" during the install package selection section |
| 01:31.47 | linux_galore | wampus: rpm -qa|grep -i qt |
| 01:31.54 | wampus | linux_galore: no because my install always fails when i do that (don't ask) but i did do that afterwords. |
| 01:32.12 | linux_galore | wampus: aah then your going to have a hell of a time |
| 01:32.37 | wampus | linux_galore: lol...yeah i can see that |
| 01:32.46 | linux_galore | wampus: what ver of fc |
| 01:32.49 | wampus | 4 |
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| 01:33.19 | linux_galore | hmm thought that was fixed in 4, ooh well moving onto FC 5 |
| 01:33.34 | wampus | linux_galore: i know i should just wait for 5 on monday and see what happens...but im way too impatient for that |
| 01:34.22 | linux_galore | wampus: yeah Ive got fc 5 installed already, lots of fixes |
| 01:34.34 | linux_galore | wampus: for once the installer actually works |
| 01:35.07 | wampus | linux_galore: Amazing! FC is a great distro...but anaconda flippin SUX |
| 01:35.20 | linux_galore | wampus: anaconda has been changed |
| 01:35.35 | wampus | linux_galore: example...? |
| 01:35.37 | linux_galore | wampus: looks similar but you notice some variations |
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| 01:36.17 | wampus | linux_galore: does it take 10 minutes to choose your time zone? |
| 01:36.40 | flaccid | rightio with the background u press enter to login u see it briefly then it loads kde ... its like its stuck behind the color |
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| 01:37.04 | linux_galore | wampus: http://linuxcult.com/story/03052006/fedora_core_5_test_3_review |
| 01:37.30 | linux_galore | wampus: no lol and doesnt have a total fit because I have 101 IO devices |
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| 01:39.44 | wampus | linux_galore: i hear ya...you wouldnt happen to have a sb extigy sound card would you? or a intel HDA? |
| 01:40.05 | linux_galore | wampus: no sb live |
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| 01:40.27 | linux_galore | got a intel mobo though |
| 01:40.29 | flaccid | rightio this is wierd any settings i put in for login manager don't work |
| 01:40.41 | flaccid | i feel as though its fedora doing something to do them |
| 01:40.48 | flaccid | is there a conf file for it |
| 01:40.48 | linux_galore | flaccid: only root can change it |
| 01:40.58 | flaccid | i went into 'administrator mode'? |
| 01:41.04 | linux_galore | flaccid: yes |
| 01:41.22 | linux_galore | flaccid: just run kcontrol as root in a console |
| 01:41.27 | linux_galore | less hassle |
| 01:41.57 | flaccid | in konsole? |
| 01:42.24 | linux_galore | yeah open a terminal type su login as root then type kcontrol |
| 01:42.53 | flaccid | it still runs, but i do get this DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket |
| 01:43.04 | linux_galore | flaccid: ignore it |
| 01:43.39 | flaccid | see the kdm screen doesn't even say welcome bla bla |
| 01:44.02 | linux_galore | flaccid: if you in kde already it will reuse the running session |
| 01:44.42 | flaccid | i did restart the computer however and it had the same effect |
| 01:44.47 | flaccid | how can i do it without restarting puter? |
| 01:45.58 | linux_galore | flaccid: so your running a kde user setup, then you open a terminal type su login and it wont run kcontrol ?? |
| 01:47.00 | flaccid | no, i can edit and save the kdm settings, but they don't come up when i go back to kdm, even when i restart |
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| 02:08.34 | flaccid | ne1 know what package libgtk-1.2.so.0 is meant to come in |
| 02:08.47 | StevenR | flaccid: usually gtk |
| 02:09.11 | flaccid | i have a lot of gtk installed but its not there |
| 02:09.22 | flaccid | is gtk2 different to gtk+ |
| 02:09.32 | StevenR | you haven't enough gtk then |
| 02:09.35 | StevenR | yes |
| 02:09.43 | caffei | flaccid, they both refer to the same toolkit, but gtk2 is specially version 2 of it |
| 02:09.52 | flaccid | ok cool |
| 02:10.01 | flaccid | i'm installing gtk+ now |
| 02:10.13 | caffei | well, generally that refers to gtk 1.x, but who knows |
| 02:11.35 | flaccid | but its cool to have them all installed yeah? |
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| 02:12.49 | caffei | yep |
| 02:12.54 | flaccid | well that just got xmms going but amarok aint going - it speeds it all up hectic |
| 02:13.07 | caffei | ah, definitely gtk 1.x then (xmms uses that) |
| 02:13.22 | caffei | flaccid, odd. try #amarok :) |
| 02:15.14 | tech9iner | oi oi now.. roflmfao.. nothing'll make one situp and rapidly confirm what channel one's in quicker than popping in reading very first word.. f l a c c i d .... rofl |
| 02:15.37 | tech9iner | ahhh.. lol.. #kde.. alls well.. |
| 02:15.40 | caffei | tech9iner, hey, we were all n00bs at some point =P |
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| 02:16.01 | caffei | of course, I haven't been since around 1993, but I digress |
| 02:16.07 | tech9iner | eh..... heheheheheh.. caffei said 'point' .. ahehehehhe |
| 02:16.16 | tech9iner | lol |
| 02:16.43 | tech9iner | long as not 'UNdress'n' .. no worries caffei ;] |
| 02:17.05 | caffei | tech9iner, indeed, you wouldn't want to see me naked ;^) |
| 02:18.04 | tech9iner | hey.. howd you know that caffei .. eery man.. how you knew before mentioning taint going to happen... just aint meant to be.. amazing esp mate! |
| 02:18.18 | tech9iner | wink |
| 02:18.35 | caffei | rol. off to game. |
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| 02:24.48 | flaccid | thanks y0 |
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| 02:26.15 | flaccid | hmm whats the simple speak icon to link through to kmixer |
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| 02:27.16 | izut | Hi there. I installed KDE stable for Solaris, on Solaris 10, but none of KDE applications seems to run. |
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| 02:27.27 | izut | Can anybody helps me? |
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| 02:28.25 | flaccid | oh u just start kmix cool |
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| 02:35.17 | flaccid | seems i have a broke link in /etc/kde/dkm: kdmrc.rpmorig -> ../../X11/xdm/kdmrc |
| 02:35.44 | flaccid | maybe thats my problem |
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| 02:52.57 | flaccid | what is kdmrc.rpmorig |
| 02:54.45 | flaccid | i fixed the link i'll try again |
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| 02:57.58 | flaccid | hmm i can't work this out. how do i remove and reinstall kdm? |
| 02:58.56 | StevenR | remove the package, and reinstall the package |
| 02:59.23 | flaccid | there is not a package installed called kdm.. maybe its fedora's default kdm thats stuffing it |
| 02:59.44 | StevenR | flaccid: use your rpm command to find out which package contains kdm |
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| 03:03.05 | flaccid | i'm not sure what u mean |
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| 03:03.24 | izut | rpm -qf /usr/bin/kdm |
| 03:03.51 | niskel | Is there a way in Kopete to choose what protocol is prefered when chatting with a contact that has more than one protocol? |
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| 03:04.40 | texnofobix | niskel: i think you can set that by the order |
| 03:05.02 | niskel | texnofobix: I changed the order but it doesnt seem to make any difference |
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| 03:05.20 | texnofobix | and reload it? |
| 03:05.25 | niskel | yes |
| 03:05.30 | texnofobix | i'm not exactly sure then ;/ |
| 03:05.53 | flaccid | it returns kdebase-3.5.1-4.2.fc3.kde |
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| 03:08.49 | izut | So you have to reinstall kdebase :P |
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| 03:09.09 | flaccid | sorry |
| 03:09.11 | flaccid | so yeah its in kdebase |
| 03:09.28 | flaccid | there was a broken link, which i fixed which has no effect |
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| 03:10.53 | caffei | flaccid, kdmrc.rpmorig is probably kdmrc copied to kdmrc.rpmorig because during an upgrade rpm saw that kdmrc was modified, so it renamed it to kdmrc.rpmorig (or the rpm original) |
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| 03:11.12 | caffei | or rather, renamed the stock one to kdmrc.rpmorig |
| 03:11.28 | flaccid | ok |
| 03:11.45 | caffei | the file you need is called kdmrc, anything else KDM won't read |
| 03:11.45 | flaccid | so what should the location of kdmrc be and what calls the file? |
| 03:11.58 | caffei | cp -a kdmrc.rpmorig kdmrc |
| 03:14.13 | flaccid | will kcontrol create a new one if i delete all? |
| 03:15.12 | caffei | no. kdmrc is a system config file, and kcontrol only touches stuff in the user's home folder (aside from the system administration stuff, anyways) |
| 03:15.53 | caffei | reinstall the kdm package and hopefully it'll place a new one |
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| 03:17.06 | flaccid | ok coolio |
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| 03:30.31 | flaccid | well that didn't make a difference |
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| 03:30.43 | flaccid | the funny thing is u briefly see the background after you press enter on the login |
| 03:30.53 | flaccid | u don't even see the welcome greeting in kdm |
| 03:30.55 | IceD^^ | is it possible to tweak konsole titlebar to remove sesson name (or how-you-call-this) |
| 03:31.10 | IceD^^ | e.g. I have /home/iced - Shell - Konsole |
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| 03:31.23 | IceD^^ | I'd like it to be /home/iced - Konsole |
| 03:31.28 | IceD^^ | or even /home/iced |
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| 03:34.36 | lostson | IceD^^: try your bashrc or bash_profile |
| 03:34.54 | IceD^^ | lostson: 1. I'm using zsh |
| 03:35.03 | lostson | oh sorry i have no idea then |
| 03:35.07 | IceD^^ | 2. I know how to put pwd into title |
| 03:35.20 | IceD^^ | 3. I'd like to dispose of the konsole's part |
| 03:35.46 | IceD^^ | /home/iced - Shell - Konsole --> /home/iced - Konsole |
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| 04:12.17 | Excelsior | What's the key combo to change resolutions in KDE again? |
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| 04:22.32 | flaccid | looks like i can't fix this kdm problem. how do i switch it back to gdm? |
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| 04:28.11 | poke | Excelsior: ctrl-alt-- or ctrl-alt-+ |
| 04:28.34 | Excelsior | Yeah I got it, thanks >_> |
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| 04:43.24 | cshields | anyone know if Navindra is on irc? (if so, what nick?) |
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| 04:50.07 | flaccid | what does a double has in channel name in chan tabs mean |
| 04:50.11 | flaccid | eg ##gnome |
| 04:51.19 | poke | nested channel, hehe :P |
| 04:52.00 | Jin | heh, does that mean you could have like, a ########kde? |
| 04:52.06 | Jin | lol |
| 04:52.28 | poke | lol, bad coding practice tho |
| 04:53.01 | flaccid | what is a nested channel |
| 04:53.24 | Jin | this channel? lol |
| 04:53.35 | cshields | flaccid: in some cases it means the channel is unofficial |
| 04:53.37 | flaccid | it says only #kde for this chan |
| 04:53.40 | flaccid | ah ok |
| 04:53.52 | Jin | also, is there a better IDE then KDevelop, because i'm about to grab it but i want to know, don't want to waste bandwidth on 56k :/ |
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| 04:56.53 | flaccid | how do u register your nick on this server |
| 04:56.57 | Wonderbird | I had kvirc fail to emerge on a gentoo box... Is this completely the wrong place to ask? |
| 04:57.40 | Jin | yup |
| 04:57.40 | Jin | #gentoo :) |
| 04:57.40 | Jin | also what does portage say? |
| 04:58.47 | GerbilSoft | Wonderbird: are you using gcc >=4? |
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| 04:59.43 | Wonderbird | Not sure |
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| 04:59.59 | GerbilSoft | Wonderbird: what does "gcc --version" say? (first line) |
| 05:00.36 | flaccid | in konsole, my terminal prompt starts as bash-3.00$ , how can i get it to start as [flaccid@host flaccid]# |
| 05:00.45 | Wonderbird | Gentoo list is scrolling by 100 miles an hour and most of them are drooling over the XGL stuff at the moment... |
| 05:01.09 | Jin | lol |
| 05:01.24 | Wonderbird | gcc 3.4.4 |
| 05:02.00 | GerbilSoft | Wonderbird: then that's not the problem.. o_O |
| 05:02.10 | GerbilSoft | Can you pastebin the output of emerge? |
| 05:02.24 | Wonderbird | Besides I am interested in doing some kde development anyway... |
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| 05:02.46 | Wonderbird | pastebin? |
| 05:03.15 | GerbilSoft | Wonderbird: http://rafb.net/paste |
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| 05:03.45 | Jin | topic |
| 05:04.42 | Wonderbird | Be glad to. Am waiting for portage to finish sync then I will redirect output for emerge kvirc to file and figure out how to pastebin it |
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| 05:10.03 | Wonderbird | Gerbilsoft: Just started emerge of kvirc - should have the ful log in about 5 min |
| 05:10.25 | GerbilSoft | k |
| 05:11.19 | Wonderbird | It is going to be a long log. I looked for the first error in build and could not find it since the terminal buffer had run out... |
| 05:12.39 | Wonderbird | Any suggestions on the best place to start for kde devel? I was figuring to start with QT4 and work my way into kde from there... |
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| 05:26.10 | flaccid | hmm i'm getting smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (500,500) after i did the kde upgrade |
| 05:26.20 | flaccid | when i goto do an smbmnt |
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| 05:34.37 | flaccid | fixed that one |
| 05:34.41 | flaccid | dang krusader does ftp nice |
| 05:34.44 | flaccid | stuff using gftp |
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| 05:37.59 | Wonderbird | Gerbilsoft: 671kb log file |
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| 06:04.34 | kingpomba | anyone use open office here |
| 06:05.00 | grepper | nope, try #koffice ? |
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| 06:05.47 | Oleg_ | You know what I did yesterday? I removed Linux |
| 06:06.00 | Oleg_ | so now I have only Windows XP installed |
| 06:06.18 | Oleg_ | I decided that Linux was too hard for me to use |
| 06:07.49 | kingpomba | too hard.... |
| 06:07.59 | kingpomba | it's basicly point and click these days |
| 06:11.29 | caffei | Oleg_, that's a rather feeble trolling attempt. I'm unimpressed. |
| 06:14.42 | flaccid | heres a situation. if u dual boot linux and windows, how can u make it so your personal documents are accessible by both and secured by a fs. ie. not storing them on a fat partition |
| 06:14.55 | flaccid | i guess there is nothing you can do because linux can't write access ntfs |
| 06:15.31 | caffei | well, it can, but it's so limited that it's not worth using. so you're right. |
| 06:15.47 | qupada | flaccid: well there is captive (uses wine-type emulation with windows' own ntfs.sys to do writes), but if you get a brand new kernel, you'll find write support is getting better |
| 06:16.11 | qupada | you can (in some cases) create new files now, and change certain other ones (depends where the files are on the partition and how big they are) |
| 06:16.47 | qupada | and usually, after you've changed 10 or 20 files, it stops working and you have to re-mount the partition to get it working again |
| 06:16.48 | main123 | an eternal alpha, heh |
| 06:17.14 | main123 | just use captive |
| 06:17.59 | flaccid | well i'm stuck on fc3 |
| 06:18.08 | flaccid | i'll try captive see if it works good enough |
| 06:18.15 | qupada | main123: it's got better in the last 6 months, back in ~2.6.11 you could only overwrite files without them ending up using more or less disk clusters, couldn't create files at all, now you have limited create, delete, and overwrite, it is getting better |
| 06:18.34 | qupada | flaccid: before you try captive, if you have a 64 bit distro, don't bother, it doesn't work |
| 06:18.42 | qupada | if you're on 32 bit, by all means go right ahead |
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| 06:19.37 | flaccid | sweet |
| 06:20.15 | flaccid | do u think it will be decent on 2.6.12-1.1372_FC3 kernel? |
| 06:20.44 | qupada | i'm pretty sure you need 2.6.15 for the latest round of features |
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| 06:21.13 | flaccid | dang |
| 06:22.00 | qupada | captive is probably the way. it's slower, but no restrictions to what you can do with it |
| 06:22.27 | flaccid | i'll try to compile on this |
| 06:22.59 | main123 | qupada: is it ever going to be beta :) ? |
| 06:23.21 | qupada | main123: what, the kernel ntfs support? |
| 06:23.27 | main123 | yes |
| 06:23.38 | main123 | ntfs write support :) |
| 06:24.18 | qupada | give it time... wasn't so long ago it was read only |
| 06:24.34 | main123 | oh well |
| 06:24.43 | qupada | or like 2.4, full write but destroy filesystem in the process and require extensive mft rebuild on unmount |
| 06:32.20 | main123 | btw. |
| 06:32.30 | main123 | does wine run apps on 64bit distros? |
| 06:32.53 | qupada | yeah, wine works fine |
| 06:33.03 | qupada | it's running half life and photoshop here no problems |
| 06:35.47 | main123 | 32bits on 64bit distro? |
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| 06:37.08 | qupada | yeah, i think it is compiled as 32 bit |
| 06:37.28 | qupada | in fact it would have to be, wouldn't be able to load 32 bit dlls from windows apps otherwise |
| 06:38.22 | main123 | does x64 provide any real boost over 32? |
| 06:38.25 | qupada | /usr/bin/wine: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.6, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
| 06:38.28 | main123 | for day-to-day tasks |
| 06:38.43 | qupada | well if you consider audio and video encoding everyday tasks it does |
| 06:38.45 | qupada | generally no |
| 06:38.48 | main123 | ive heard it only helps if u move big blocks of memory |
| 06:39.01 | main123 | well, thats what i thought |
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| 06:40.32 | main123 | do you do a lot of video editing, qupada :) ? |
| 06:41.50 | qupada | i do a lot of audio encoding, small amount of video |
| 06:42.13 | qupada | the one thing i do like about having a 64 bit cpu is the people in #gentoo-amd64 are a lot more friendly than the people in #gentoo |
| 06:43.16 | main123 | you are a sound engineer? |
| 06:43.26 | qupada | nope, ripping cds mostly |
| 06:43.31 | main123 | hehe :)) |
| 06:43.37 | qupada | i do a bit of audio editing, but not much anymore |
| 06:44.24 | flaccid | hmm how can i get kate to open files from konqueror in the same session thats already open |
| 06:45.35 | qupada | pass. i would test it but my kate is broken due to being in the middle of a glibc-2.4/gcc-4.1 update |
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| 06:46.30 | qupada | for some reason the text editor kpart has gone walkabout. hoping it will fix itself once the whole system has been upgraded |
| 06:50.57 | flaccid | dang! that kinda sux. i love kate :) |
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| 06:52.25 | qupada | so do i, and it's annoying having to use the qt designer kpart as an editor, because it's nowhere near as good as the kate one |
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| 06:57.36 | flaccid | yeah i used them all and kate is the best |
| 07:00.01 | main123 | and why are all kde editors so slow to open up |
| 07:00.13 | main123 | wordpad.exe opens in 0.55 sec:) |
| 07:00.31 | main123 | ultraedit is similarly fast |
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| 07:00.58 | flaccid | thats true |
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| 07:06.25 | main123 | u dual-boot, flaccid? |
| 07:08.48 | linux_user400354 | does anyone want to play KBattleship? |
| 07:09.32 | flaccid | yeah crappy winxpsp2 and fc3/kde |
| 07:09.47 | flaccid | on a nice asus w1000na n/b |
| 07:10.10 | flaccid | i must say i love kde 3.5.1 cept i coudln't fix that kdm problem which i think is fedora's fault anyway |
| 07:10.20 | flaccid | so i reverted back to gdm |
| 07:10.57 | main123 | dont u find fresh xp install is so much faster than anything u can squeeze of out linux+kde? |
| 07:11.15 | qupada | i don't have windows any more, i was so pleased to get rid of it |
| 07:11.35 | main123 | i dunno, but i used a properly setup xp machine, and im trying to fix up my linux box to run quicker |
| 07:11.38 | qupada | i managed to halve my linux boot times by swapping sysvinit for initng (initng.thinktux.net) |
| 07:11.44 | flaccid | um not necessarily. for some reason this update to 3.5.1 seems faster for loading stuff |
| 07:11.52 | main123 | odd |
| 07:11.58 | qupada | if you ditch rhgb your linux system will boot a hell of a lot faster |
| 07:12.10 | main123 | no, not booting |
| 07:12.15 | main123 | booting isnt the prob |
| 07:12.18 | main123 | starting up apps |
| 07:12.26 | main123 | like kate, etc-etc |
| 07:12.32 | main123 | firefox totally kills it |
| 07:12.38 | flaccid | apps load faster in this new kde for me than before |
| 07:12.40 | main123 | not to mention OOo |
| 07:13.01 | qupada | i'm in the middle of compiling stuff so it's not a great time to test, but stuff is usually pretty fast |
| 07:13.46 | qupada | i guess though your kde is compiled very generically to run on any i386 compatible cpu, mine is compiled specifically for an athlon64 |
| 07:13.57 | flaccid | i'd rather linux than fastish windows |
| 07:14.16 | qupada | windows isn't fast in my experience |
| 07:14.26 | main123 | mine is compiled i686 |
| 07:14.45 | qupada | it's fine the first time you boot it, but once you've installed video, sound, network, etc drivers, it all turns to shit |
| 07:14.53 | main123 | odd |
| 07:14.56 | flaccid | it takes a bit longer to load for eg. opera on linux but thats expected |
| 07:15.22 | main123 | xp has good prefetching:) |
| 07:15.27 | flaccid | i guess it depends how much u load. u can cut windows down from the base install especially for servers |
| 07:15.29 | qupada | opera sucks anyway |
| 07:15.38 | flaccid | y? |
| 07:15.39 | qupada | firefox for the win |
| 07:15.46 | main123 | true |
| 07:15.52 | main123 | its superfast now |
| 07:16.08 | flaccid | opera is fast and compliant |
| 07:16.20 | main123 | although opera is slightly quicker, if u view massive pages, then probably opera will be marginally better |
| 07:16.23 | flaccid | but i use opera for mail as well |
| 07:16.29 | qupada | mostly because it doesn't fit in to any window manager or any operating system, it does an absolutely shocking job of page rendering compared to firefox, and nowhere near as configurable or extendable |
| 07:16.46 | qupada | i have more than 30 firefox extensions that provide some function i use on a regular basis |
| 07:16.47 | main123 | but ffx is superslow on linux |
| 07:17.09 | flaccid | thats becuase opera has different focus. it also doesn't have a quirks mode, its standards or see what happens |
| 07:17.20 | flaccid | page rendering is great, its just that most sites are not valid |
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| 07:17.48 | flaccid | the firefox plugins are buggy and a lot halt the loading of firefox mainly coz 3rd party made |
| 07:18.00 | qupada | give me firefox any day |
| 07:18.07 | flaccid | i have both always open |
| 07:18.15 | qupada | mine works perfectly. just as fast with 30-odd plugins as it is with none |
| 07:18.24 | flaccid | thats lucky |
| 07:18.31 | flaccid | coz some of the ones i luck halt it up |
| 07:18.45 | flaccid | a lot of people report crashes due to the extensions |
| 07:19.18 | qupada | apart from extreme cases (100+ tabs open, etc) i have no problems |
| 07:20.44 | linux_user400354 | does anyone want to play a network game KBattleship???? |
| 07:21.08 | main123 | quapada, how fast does firefox startup on your machine |
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| 07:23.49 | main123 | cold-start, of course |
| 07:23.49 | qupada | main123: never timed it |
| 07:24.01 | main123 | well, just a ballpark |
| 07:24.03 | qupada | at a guess, more than 10 seconds but less than 20 |
| 07:24.19 | qupada | remember though it is a static 32 bit binary on a 64 bit system |
| 07:24.30 | main123 | why dont you recompile |
| 07:24.40 | qupada | a native copy is faster, but doesn't do flash, java, acroread, or video |
| 07:24.52 | main123 | oh, right, the plugins |
| 07:25.00 | qupada | yup yup |
| 07:25.17 | linux_galore | main123: yeah the plugins are 32 bit still but the browser you have setup is 32 bit I bet |
| 07:25.21 | main123 | i would probably shoot myself with this sort of loading times |
| 07:25.26 | linux_galore | 64 bit* |
| 07:25.28 | qupada | extensions are still fine of course, the same profile works in both, but so many sites depend on flash, and gplflash2 isn't ready for primetime |
| 07:26.11 | qupada | linux_galore: using gentoo's 'mozilla-firefox-bin', it uses the official binary from mozilla.org |
| 07:26.40 | linux_galore | main123: just download the firefox binary and open it on your ~/Documents/ directory and create a link the the firefox 32 bit binary, also rename ~/.mozilla/firefox ~/.mozilla/firefox-bak/ |
| 07:26.59 | qupada | also using a 32 bit binary mplayer (mplayer-bin), plus netscape-flash (obviously macromedia's binary), acroread (adobe's binary), and something like sun jdk 1.5.0.04 |
| 07:27.52 | linux_galore | yeah I have a couple of amd64 (one x2 now), learnt the hard way about the 64 bit browser headache heh heh |
| 07:28.47 | linux_galore | to the* |
| 07:29.06 | qupada | in all reality, it's the fault of those companies i can't run 64 bit firefox... sun doesn't make a java plugin for the 64 bit java, adobe and macromedia don't make 64 bit versions of their apps, and microsoft/apple/real's video filters (in win32codecs) obviously can't be used with 64 bit mplayer/mplayerplug-in |
| 07:29.46 | linux_galore | qupada: pretty dumb considering intel and amd and apple/ppc all have 64 bit cpu's now |
| 07:29.52 | linux_user400354 | does anyone want to play a network game KBattleship???? |
| 07:30.19 | qupada | linux_galore: indeed. but who are we the users to question |
| 07:30.57 | main123 | so, hm |
| 07:30.57 | linux_galore | qupada: I just keep emailing them about it, were my 64 bit flash plugin |
| 07:31.07 | main123 | no java or flash on apple?:) |
| 07:31.23 | qupada | yeah, i signed the petition, they just don't care enough |
| 07:31.23 | linux_galore | main123: they use a 32 bit version |
| 07:31.56 | main123 | 64 isnt mainstream yet |
| 07:32.30 | linux_galore | main123: if ntel are selling it over the counter and del are selling it, its generic |
| 07:32.50 | main123 | yes, but not yet mainstream |
| 07:32.55 | qupada | intel's "64 bit" processors are a crock |
| 07:33.09 | linux_galore | qupada: yeah, no on die memory controler |
| 07:33.23 | qupada | there is not excuse not to have a real amd64 chip |
| 07:33.50 | linux_galore | qupada: people are sheep, they go with what they know even if its a total piece of crap |
| 07:34.14 | linux_galore | qupada: just look how many people buy those cheap gutless korean cars |
| 07:34.43 | qupada | yeah, i heard somewhere that hyundai and kia are two of the fastest growing car brands in the world |
| 07:35.01 | main123 | what cars are better |
| 07:35.04 | qupada | yet you also hear people complaining about how pieces fall off them all the time |
| 07:35.07 | qupada | toyota |
| 07:35.08 | main123 | gm and ford :) ? |
| 07:35.29 | linux_galore | qupada: yep and there horrible cars, drive one up an incline of 10 deg and you have to change gear, get a VW same engine size and it doesnt care |
| 07:36.10 | linux_galore | qupada: toyota have the lowest failure per 1000 sales |
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| 07:37.17 | linux_galore | Top Gear did a review of the asian rim small cars, they couldnt find one they would recomend |
| 07:38.10 | qupada | linux_galore: i drove my 1986 toyota corolla (1.3L engine) practically the length of the country (1400km or so) with the rear suspension compressed 6" or so by all the stuff i had loaded in it and it ran fine the whole way. the hills coming into the city i live here are steeper than 10 degrees but i still managed 100km/h (our open-road speed limit) the whole way up. i think that's not bad for a car as old as i am |
| 07:38.13 | linux_galore | sorry they found 1, car they decided was passable, only down side being its the same price as a VW Polo |
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| 07:39.31 | qupada | i saw a top gear where they completely destroyed a hyundai just because they could... the line i remember was "in korea a puppy isn't just for christmas, if you're lucky there'll be some left over for boxing day too" |
| 07:39.32 | linux_galore | in the end Top Gear said get either a VW Polo or a Toyota if you want a decent cheap small car |
| 07:40.12 | linux_galore | qupada: I love that show, funny as hell |
| 07:40.39 | qupada | yeah, it's great. even if 90% of the cars are the kind most people couldn't afford, it's worth it for the humor too |
| 07:40.52 | linux_galore | qupada: they do normal cars too |
| 07:41.17 | linux_galore | qupada: I watched one were they had there moms testing cars |
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| 07:41.29 | qupada | yeah, that was great. i saw that one too |
| 07:42.04 | linux_galore | funny how they the Renault was so complicated she couldnt start it |
| 07:42.06 | qupada | i remember them pissing themselves laughing over the publicity photo of richard they found in one of the boxes of junk |
| 07:42.12 | main123 | does konversation have a tree-style taskbar? |
| 07:42.15 | main123 | or channel-bar |
| 07:42.34 | linux_galore | qupada: ooh yeah that was funny |
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| 07:43.00 | qupada | main123: sorry, never used it |
| 07:43.08 | linux_galore | qupada: was that the same one as, can you buy a super car under 10k and live with it episode |
| 07:43.55 | qupada | was that the one with the v12 jag that died every couple of miles? |
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| 07:44.38 | linux_galore | qupada: no its were they had to buy each buy an Italian super car under 10k and they have a race |
| 07:44.47 | linux_galore | one of the cars engine blew up |
| 07:44.53 | qupada | ah, well the one with the jag was great too |
| 07:44.57 | linux_galore | the masarati |
| 07:45.07 | |main| | thats strange |
| 07:45.15 | |main| | very expensive cars should work ok:) |
| 07:45.18 | qupada | the car vs train/bus/etc races are always worth it too |
| 07:45.34 | linux_galore | qupada: they did one were they put nitros in an old jag to see if they could beat a modern sports car |
| 07:45.48 | qupada | ah, i think i saw that one too |
| 07:46.04 | linux_galore | the jag creamed the sports car lol |
| 07:46.25 | |main| | the sports car wasnt mercedes SLR, was it |
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| 07:46.40 | linux_galore | cant remember got the divx file here somewere |
| 07:47.01 | main123 | i doubt an old jag would beat a mclauren, hehe |
| 07:47.24 | qupada | i like the "playing darts with cars" clip too, where they get a movie special effects cannon and launch a bunch of old cars at a bullseye target |
| 07:47.30 | qupada | that one's on google videos somewhere |
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| 07:48.14 | linux_galore | main123: yeah they did a mclaren v EVO drag race, showing the difference between a "fast car" and a "seriously fast car" shocked me, the EVO got murdered |
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| 07:49.05 | main123 | mclauren is a monster |
| 07:49.20 | main123 | the entire car is one big engine with an armchair strapped to it |
| 07:51.49 | qupada | i'm going to my dad's place for a week in a month or so, finally get a ride in his lotus esprit :D damn nice looking car it is too |
| 07:51.53 | linux_galore | mclauren is history now, the Veryon will beat the mclauren to 200m/h even if the mclauren started the race going 150m/h at the start line already |
| 07:52.07 | main123 | veyron isnt a street car:) |
| 07:52.07 | qupada | when you hear things like "put foot down in 4th gear doing 100km/h and cause wheelspin", you know it has to be good |
| 07:52.24 | linux_galore | main123: you can register it |
| 07:52.31 | main123 | can u drive it? |
| 07:52.42 | main123 | actually, even mclaurens arent legal i think |
| 07:52.54 | main123 | at least in canada |
| 07:53.20 | linux_galore | main123: yeah top gear drove one right across europe, in the 2005 07-05 episode |
| 07:53.34 | main123 | veyron? |
| 07:53.37 | linux_galore | main123: yes |
| 07:53.43 | main123 | well, europe is a little crazier, hehe |
| 07:53.51 | main123 | no top speed on many highways |
| 07:53.57 | linux_galore | main123: well the mclaren and veryon are made in europe |
| 07:54.03 | main123 | depends on the country though |
| 07:54.33 | linux_galore | main123: not really, thanks to cross border agreements you can drive a car anywere |
| 07:54.58 | main123 | yes, but laws still differ |
| 07:55.32 | main123 | u can drive from canada to mexico in a car, but laws are different in every state |
| 07:56.11 | linux_galore | main123: if you can afford a veryon having a home in the UK or italy is a minor concern heh heh |
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| 07:56.36 | main123 | hehe |
| 07:56.39 | main123 | that is true |
| 07:57.00 | main123 | i doubt you would want to live in UK, if u can afford such things:) |
| 07:57.20 | linux_galore | paying 100,000 euro for a flat in Rome so you can have a 1.4Million euro car sort of makes the point |
| 07:58.02 | linux_galore | and there a steal VW loses 4 million on each car it sells |
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| 07:58.19 | main123 | on each veyron? |
| 07:58.22 | linux_galore | yep |
| 07:58.25 | main123 | 4mil? |
| 07:58.39 | linux_galore | yep real money EURO's too |
| 07:58.42 | main123 | why would they sell them |
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| 07:59.08 | linux_galore | main123: it was a proof of concept car, they will make the money on all the patents on the thing |
| 07:59.36 | linux_galore | hmm |
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| 08:00.17 | linux_galore | good example is the tranmission, it has to last 10 year but handle 1000BHP |
| 08:00.40 | linux_galore | anyway Im out |
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| 08:04.35 | nestorm | hi everyone |
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| 08:23.48 | aep | morning |
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| 08:29.50 | aep | a few people report , that their screensaver dosnt start automaticly in kde-3.5. did anybody solve it? |
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| 08:36.21 | kury- | is it possible to add a CD-Rom icon to a kde panel so you can mount/unmount/eject it like you can add to your desktop? |
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| 08:40.17 | storytell | Hello all |
| 08:40.29 | qupada | kury-: add the "Storage Media" applet to your panel |
| 08:41.53 | storytell | I have a cannon powershot s110 that I'm trying to get automounted. I can access it after plugging it in by going to camera: , but I can't get it to appear on the desktop though i have camera enable in desktop devices... |
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| 08:42.23 | kury- | qupada, cool.. thanks |
| 08:42.41 | storytell | Must I somehow make it mount somewhere other than camera: ? |
| 08:43.32 | qupada | storyteller: well given it's probably not a usb mass storage device, it doesn't actually mount anywhere |
| 08:43.44 | qupada | but there is no reason it shouldn't be on the desktop, that's odd |
| 08:46.56 | storyteller | I added: camera -fstype=auto :/dev/sda1 to my /etc/autofs/auto.misc file, but it didn't fix the issue |
| 08:47.29 | storyteller | All other devices appear on destop normally... |
| 08:49.00 | storyteller | I used kcontrol to add the camera, and it successfully tests |
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| 09:32.22 | RedDevil | HAi |
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| 09:49.23 | flaccid | where do u change the little pop up dialog thing thats shows the progress of stuff loading when u login like restoring session, peripherals etc |
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| 09:52.53 | flaccid | thats the splash screen? |
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| 09:53.54 | flaccid | must be |
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| 10:14.26 | bazboo | I am attempting to empty the trash in KDE and it sits there beginning the process forever without doing the job. Any ideas? |
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| 10:18.39 | _jind | Delete it manually |
| 10:18.49 | _jind | ~/.Trash |
| 10:18.55 | _jind | Or something similar |
| 10:19.11 | _jind | ls -la ~ | grep Trash |
| 10:20.49 | bazboo | right, did it |
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| 10:20.58 | bazboo | but it still thinks the trash is there |
| 10:21.44 | _jind | You deleted the folder itself? |
| 10:22.13 | _jind | In that case it's just kicker which isn't following up |
| 10:22.22 | bazboo | _jind: no, the contesnts of the trash and trashinfo folders |
| 10:22.27 | bazboo | contents* |
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| 10:23.40 | _jind | Try to reload kicker manually to then |
| 10:23.50 | _jind | First kill it and reload it |
| 10:23.58 | benJIman | dcop kicker default restart |
| 10:24.43 | _jind | benJIman: nice one. I have used to use killall -15 and just restarted manually :) |
| 10:25.09 | flaccid | is there any reason why my host what showup as localhost on boot with this in my /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 listera.mydomain.com.au localhost.localdomain localhost listera |
| 10:25.35 | flaccid | sorry it showed up as localhost when booted into kde and not listera.mydomain.com.au |
| 10:25.55 | bazboo | one thing left to ask, why is kicker responsible for desk icons |
| 10:26.01 | benJIman | it's not |
| 10:26.05 | benJIman | kdesktop is |
| 10:26.13 | bazboo | and my kicker is blank now that it is restarted |
| 10:26.34 | bazboo | seems like it... froze also |
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| 10:29.36 | bluesceada | bazboo: kicker seems really buggy all the time .. at least for me |
| 10:29.44 | bluesceada | still in 3.5.1... |
| 10:30.04 | bluesceada | wait for 4.0 :) |
| 10:30.09 | bluesceada | which will take a year or so -.- |
| 10:31.20 | bazboo | also, i have tried repeatedly to download packages or compile kat, but it still SIGSEGVs |
| 10:31.21 | mobtek | not buggy here |
| 10:31.24 | bazboo | any suggestions |
| 10:31.24 | mobtek | what distro? |
| 10:31.43 | bazboo | Debian Sid+Experimental, of course, because I'm crazy. :-) |
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| 10:39.39 | elvaka | hello ppl |
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| 10:46.17 | nuxil | is it posseble to use distcc with kontructor? |
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| 10:48.34 | elvaka | i have gnome running over the kde desktop |
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| 10:48.39 | elvaka | lol |
| 10:49.30 | nuxil | o.0 |
| 10:49.44 | nuxil | is it posseble to use distcc with kontructor? |
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| 10:51.49 | qupada | nuxil: i think you can use distcc as the compiler anywhere, as long as distcc's cc executable comes before gcc's one in the path variable, because the first one found will be used |
| 10:53.19 | pinotree | hello =) |
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| 10:55.30 | qupada | timezone-adjusted greetings, pinotree |
| 10:55.55 | qupada | argh, damn dlink route |
| 10:55.56 | qupada | r |
| 10:56.00 | qupada | nearly disconnected me again |
| 10:56.19 | pinotree | ? |
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| 10:56.54 | qupada | it's just a general piece of shit. can't hold up connections, and the wireless isn't compatible with 90% of wireless devices |
| 10:57.17 | qupada | friends don't let friends buy dlink |
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| 11:15.09 | hussam-zzz | elvaka, run in konsole killall firefox-bin && killall firefox |
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| 11:16.27 | flaccid | does anyone know of a linux/fedora help channel where i don't have to register my nick or someone know how to register my nick on freenode |
| 11:16.31 | matapr | ciao chi di salerno??? |
| 11:16.49 | pinotree | matapr: in inglese qui... |
| 11:17.01 | matapr | why? |
| 11:17.12 | pinotree | because this is an english channeò |
| 11:17.17 | pinotree | channel* |
| 11:17.19 | nuxil | qupada only some of the apps uses distcc when i set export CC="distcc" like qt it uses g++ |
| 11:17.28 | matapr | sorry |
| 11:17.35 | matapr | what are italian channell?? |
| 11:17.37 | nuxil | any ideas why |
| 11:18.04 | StevenR | flaccid: /msg nickserv help |
| 11:18.17 | pinotree | matapr: user channel, no |
| 11:18.34 | matapr | i don't know |
| 11:19.34 | qupada | nuxil: not everything obeys the CC variable |
| 11:19.45 | pinotree | matapr: what about asking here? |
| 11:20.23 | nuxil | qupada well what do then? |
| 11:20.28 | qupada | you need to make a folder called /usr/local/distcc or something, make symlinks called cc, gcc, c++ etc in there that point to distcc, and add PATH=/usr/local/distcc:$PATH to ~/.bashrc |
| 11:21.26 | qupada | that way when "cc" is called as an application, distcc is first in line because /usr/local/distcc/cc (symlink to /usr/bin/distcc) takes preference over /usr/bin/cc |
| 11:21.50 | nuxil | ic |
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| 11:22.40 | qupada | same deal for ccache too |
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| 11:28.51 | qwek | is it possible to remember konq how to sort maps.. e.g. i only want my downloads to be sorted by date |
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| 11:31.09 | chendo_ | anyone use kopete and find the 'mark taskbar' notification never actually works? |
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| 11:38.51 | xororand | why does kde/konqueror ignore ~/.ssh/config? |
| 11:45.41 | nuxil | wee :) got 3 pc's compiling kde 3.5.1 with distcc now |
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| 11:46.03 | pinotree | chendo_: here it works |
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| 11:46.19 | pinotree | qwek: which donwloads for konqueror? |
| 11:46.22 | chendo_ | pinotree: what style? |
| 11:46.28 | chendo_ | and what ver? |
| 11:46.34 | pinotree | 0.11.1 |
| 11:46.57 | pinotree | chendo_: the blink taskbar entry notification? |
| 11:47.32 | chendo_ | yeah |
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| 11:47.39 | chendo_ | i assume it says 'mark taskbar?' |
| 11:48.14 | pinotree | let's call it that way, yes |
| 11:48.27 | pinotree | it's a standard kde notification, not only for kopete |
| 11:49.11 | chendo_ | well i don't see it working :/ |
| 11:49.22 | chendo_ | i have my taskbar vertical though, if that matters |
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| 11:49.45 | pinotree | you could try with other applications |
| 11:50.38 | chendo_ | any idea which? |
| 11:50.57 | aep | has kscreensaveer a executable that could be used to debug it?? |
| 11:51.04 | pinotree | any application that support the kde notifications |
| 11:52.47 | chendo_ | pinotree: nope, doesn't work :/ |
| 11:52.50 | chendo_ | i'm on 3.5 |
| 11:52.59 | pinotree | weird |
| 11:52.59 | aep | pinotree, meant me? |
| 11:53.07 | pinotree | aep: no, chendo_ |
| 11:53.31 | aep | ok, didnt make sense to m e |
| 11:53.35 | aep | :) |
| 11:54.17 | chendo_ | yeah :/ |
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| 11:55.29 | aep | how cou,ld i get the output of kscreensaver, becouse here it just dosnt starts |
| 11:55.37 | chendo_ | i don't get this |
| 11:55.40 | chendo_ | and it's really annoying |
| 11:55.55 | pinotree | aep: ~/.xession-errors |
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| 11:56.08 | aep | pinotree, aaarr forgott that thanks |
| 11:58.05 | aep | hm nothing about kscreensaver. what else coudl i do to find out why it dosnt start? |
| 12:00.08 | pinotree | aep: execute a screen saver from command line |
| 12:00.17 | pinotree | for example, kblankscrn.kss |
| 12:00.39 | aep | thats not the problem pinotree , the ssavers work fine, but they will noit be started automaticly |
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| 12:04.41 | aep | wt. kcontrol crashes at exit, when i used the screensaver tab before |
| 12:06.13 | aep | "kcmshell screensaver" ==> "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". \n KCrash: Application 'kcmshell' crashing... |
| 12:06.13 | aep | " |
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| 12:11.33 | aep | strace says "close(1023) = -1 EBADF (Bad file descriptor) |
| 12:11.34 | aep | " |
| 12:11.53 | aep | (1023 times) |
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| 12:20.24 | aep | the real big starce kcmshell screensaver http://phpfi.com/108084 |
| 12:20.30 | nuxil | guys im trying to compile kde but i get this error no |
| 12:20.32 | nuxil | now |
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| 12:20.37 | nuxil | g++: /usr/lib/libGL.so: No such file or directory |
| 12:20.37 | nuxil | make[7]: *** [dcopserver] Error 1 |
| 12:20.37 | nuxil | make[7]: Leaving directory `/home/octan/konstruct/kde/kdelibs/work/kdelibs-3.5.1/dcop' |
| 12:20.37 | nuxil | make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 12:20.46 | nuxil | but /usr/lib/libGL.so is there |
| 12:20.51 | nuxil | i have checked |
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| 12:27.55 | g0dchild | so how do i mount my O2 XDA using Ksync? |
| 12:29.54 | oever | g0dchild: do you see the device as a mass storage device? |
| 12:30.13 | g0dchild | no :( |
| 12:30.17 | nuxil | http://pastebin.com/610468 |
| 12:30.20 | nuxil | pls help me |
| 12:30.36 | g0dchild | do i need to run kde to sync? i am using flux box right now |
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| 12:30.44 | kommerck | hi |
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| 12:31.04 | kommerck | is there some shortcut key in katepart to insert a changelog entry (date/time)? |
| 12:31.18 | oever | g0dchild: i don't know about how to sync the addresses |
| 12:31.26 | oever | you could try kitchensync |
| 12:31.30 | oever | even under fluxbox |
| 12:31.40 | g0dchild | alright then, thanks |
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| 12:36.37 | Jako | Hello, I'm trying to speed up the startup time. I've been proving that most of the time is spent in peripherical detection. Is that a must? Can i disable it? |
| 12:36.41 | Gentle | does anybody know of special menu popup applets for kicker? |
| 12:37.15 | Gentle | personally I don't like the default menus too much |
| 12:37.48 | nuxil | i need some help here guys |
| 12:38.57 | carsten | nuxil: shoot |
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| 12:56.57 | elvaka | hello! |
| 12:57.21 | elvaka | can i assign two owners to a folder? |
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| 13:02.59 | anaKim | elvaka, no, but you can create a user group with two users and set the permissions accordingly |
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| 13:07.49 | elvaka | ty |
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| 13:11.16 | Env | I have KDE set to show my drive icons on my desktop, and I have hal, dbus and ivman running, etc. But when I put my pendrive in it's mounted automatically but it doesn't appear on my desktop, any ideas what I'm missing? |
| 13:12.56 | DeadS0ul | pen drive.. |
| 13:13.09 | DeadS0ul | you have removeable media selection under device icons? |
| 13:13.13 | DeadS0ul | selected even |
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| 13:16.20 | chendo_ | i t hought KDE didn't need arts to use alsa |
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| 13:16.40 | anaKim | k3b crashes when copying a DVD, for personal use-I swear-legal here in Europe. More precisely just after opening libdvdcss. Any ideas? |
| 13:17.52 | Env | DeadS0ul: Yup, I have them all selected |
| 13:18.55 | DeadS0ul | oh ...hmm..does it show up in system:/media? |
| 13:19.00 | Env | Nope |
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| 13:20.36 | Env | Are there some sort of permissions I need to set up for ivman/dbus/hal or something first? |
| 13:23.06 | DeadS0ul | did you just install hal? |
| 13:23.11 | DeadS0ul | you have to enable it in kde |
| 13:23.50 | DeadS0ul | control center -> peripherals -> storage media |
| 13:24.01 | DeadS0ul | make sure enable hal backend is checked |
| 13:25.01 | Env | They are all enabled |
| 13:25.31 | DeadS0ul | hmm dammit |
| 13:26.20 | DeadS0ul | damn, I dunno how to check if hals' finding your device.. |
| 13:26.45 | DeadS0ul | anaKim: you wanan make a back up of a dvd? |
| 13:26.54 | DeadS0ul | encrypted dvd? |
| 13:28.04 | Env | DeadS0ul: It was automatically mounted on /media/usbdrive but why Hal isn't picking it up I don't know |
| 13:28.21 | keng48 | join #christian |
| 13:28.22 | DeadS0ul | are you using debian? |
| 13:31.10 | DeadS0ul | oh wait, I think I know, you gotta use a pretty new kernel, 2.6.14 or 15 I think |
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| 13:32.57 | Env | keng48: Why? |
| 13:33.05 | Env | DeadS0ul: .15 kernel yeah, using Gentoo |
| 13:33.30 | DeadS0ul | ..keng's probably a bot..ignore him.. |
| 13:34.14 | DeadS0ul | Env: not sure why hal's nto wokring for you, you might wanna try asking #gentoo or check their forums |
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| 13:42.15 | anaKim | DeadS0ul, a backup copy indeed |
| 13:42.59 | anaKim | DeadS0ul, I tried old style dd if=/dev/vdv /of/tmp/dvd.iso but no luck. No all iso9660 are iso9660 :-) |
| 13:43.01 | DeadS0ul | anaKim: use k9copy to mkae an iso, then burn it |
| 13:43.28 | DeadS0ul | wow never tried thta |
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| 13:44.29 | DeadS0ul | but I have made a copy of a dvd using k9copy =\ |
| 13:45.36 | kommerck | anaKim: I think you have to do bchunk if you read from dvd with dd |
| 13:46.39 | anaKim | DeadS0ul, yup! it is not as straightforward as I thought. My blank dvd is 4.7Gig while the source is >5Gb |
| 13:46.52 | DeadS0ul | naw it'll shrink it for you |
| 13:46.56 | DeadS0ul | and keep your menus |
| 13:47.14 | anaKim | will it play on a under-the-tvset DVD player? |
| 13:47.17 | DeadS0ul | yeah |
| 13:47.30 | DeadS0ul | its' not perfect though, it might not shirnk the source enough =( |
| 13:47.44 | anaKim | my toddler gets very angry is he doesn't his daily doze of Teletubbies |
| 13:48.23 | DeadS0ul | haha |
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| 13:48.34 | DeadS0ul | well I've tried it and I don't think you'll be disappointed |
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| 13:49.02 | anaKim | geez, gotta wait until the portage sync is over |
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| 13:49.55 | anaKim | at least I can safely remove the debug flag from make.conf |
| 13:49.56 | DeadS0ul | I get grumpy if i don't get my daily dose of U2 =D |
| 13:50.42 | elvaka | i have a game in a folder, i want to run the game from the K menu, where shuld I put the folder? |
| 13:51.27 | anaKim | DeadS0ul, does it require prescription? |
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| 13:51.57 | anaKim | ok, now I get it. It's the Irish band. |
| 13:52.04 | DeadS0ul | haha |
| 13:52.14 | anaKim | pockipsy, pockipsy |
| 13:52.31 | DeadS0ul | naw vertigo atm |
| 13:52.43 | DeadS0ul | elvaka: what..game? |
| 13:52.53 | elvaka | pixpang |
| 13:52.56 | elvaka | and antiwar |
| 13:53.05 | DeadS0ul | are those games for linux =O |
| 13:53.14 | elvaka | yup |
| 13:53.38 | elvaka | i can play if i open it from the original folder |
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| 13:53.45 | elvaka | but i want a shortcut in the K menu |
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| 13:53.52 | dma147 | hello all... |
| 13:55.07 | dma147 | What could be wrong if CTRL+U in konqueror (show sourcecode) doesn't open an editor with the sourcecode anymore...? It worked yesterday, before I've updated qt and kdelibs... |
| 13:56.07 | anymo | elvaka: when you open kmenu, right-click on any item and choose Edit Menu option, there you can add anything to your kmenu |
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| 13:56.12 | DeadS0ul | oh |
| 13:56.19 | DeadS0ul | use the menu editor and make a link in the games folder then |
| 13:56.31 | elvaka | but the executable must be on a specific folder |
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| 13:57.04 | knoppix | how do y config my lilo or grub to boot please |
| 13:57.14 | elvaka | if i write the name of the game and it's in the desktop, it can't be found |
| 13:57.29 | knoppix | help me please |
| 13:57.34 | dma147 | knoppix: /part && /j #linux |
| 13:57.34 | anymo | just link to it through edit menu tool |
| 13:57.49 | knoppix | k |
| 13:57.50 | elvaka | mmmm ok |
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| 13:58.10 | anymo | if it's in /home/elvaka/antiwar/antiwar (for example) you just link to that file |
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| 14:00.20 | elvaka | what is the logical location for a program folder? (like program files in windows) |
| 14:00.28 | dma147 | somebody should say them, that they shouldn't connect as root... ^^ |
| 14:00.42 | dma147 | elvaka: /usr |
| 14:00.49 | dma147 | elvaka: binaries goes to /usr/bin |
| 14:01.01 | DeadS0ul | w000 this dvd has The Who =D |
| 14:01.13 | anymo | but you can install some apps really anywhere |
| 14:01.21 | anymo | like in your /home or something... |
| 14:01.26 | elvaka | and another thing... where can i download the divx codecs for linux? |
| 14:01.41 | anymo | I think you can get them on divx official site |
| 14:01.42 | DeadS0ul | rarewarez.org I think |
| 14:02.06 | dma147 | elvaka: since some months divx is included in ffmpeg, afaik. |
| 14:02.40 | dma147 | again: |
| 14:02.43 | dma147 | What could be wrong if CTRL+U in konqueror (show sourcecode) doesn't open an editor with the sourcecode anymore...? It worked yesterday, before I've updated qt and kdelibs... |
| 14:03.09 | dma147 | s/an editor/kate/ |
| 14:03.29 | dma147 | lol... great bot. |
| 14:03.36 | DeadS0ul | hahaha |
| 14:03.43 | DeadS0ul | holy crap |
| 14:03.46 | DeadS0ul | s/crap/jesus |
| 14:03.53 | DeadS0ul | s/crap/jesus/ |
| 14:03.56 | DeadS0ul | =D |
| 14:04.00 | DeadS0ul | crap |
| 14:04.01 | DeadS0ul | hehe |
| 14:04.05 | DeadS0ul | holy crap |
| 14:04.07 | DeadS0ul | s/crap/jesus/ |
| 14:04.29 | dma147 | kindergarden? *g* |
| 14:04.50 | DeadS0ul | naw just note used to commands that much =| I like WIMP stuff too much |
| 14:05.44 | DeadS0ul | http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html <-- codecs |
| 14:08.27 | dma147 | I wonder what the bot would say if the expression is wrong...? *g* |
| 14:13.05 | oever | s/// |
| 14:13.23 | oever | s/\/\/\/// |
| 14:13.34 | oever | silly bot |
| 14:13.39 | IceD^ | can smbdy vote for https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121480 |
| 14:13.52 | IceD^ | I'm afraid they will forget about it... |
| 14:14.34 | dma147 | only if somebody answers my question. |
| 14:17.27 | chendo_ | hello world |
| 14:17.30 | chendo_ | s/world/gentoo/ |
| 14:17.47 | chendo_ | hello world |
| 14:17.53 | chendo_ | s/aoeu/aoeu/ |
| 14:18.05 | Env | hmm, why do my .desktop files remove the extension if they are on my desktop, but become .desktop files when I put them in a folder and is it safe to delete the .desktop off the end? |
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| 14:21.00 | anaKim | DeadS0ul, all k9opy packages are masked... gotta do it old style... |
| 14:21.26 | DeadS0ul | masked? |
| 14:21.33 | DeadS0ul | what bout xdvdshrink then? |
| 14:22.38 | anaKim | ~x86 I meant |
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| 14:23.18 | DeadS0ul | whoa this dvd has wish you were here live =D |
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| 14:28.29 | pwuertz | how to change the text-color in kicker? |
| 14:32.17 | flaccid | i only seem to have a couple of screensavers, where do i get screensavers that come with kde 3.5.1 |
| 14:32.20 | flaccid | is there more |
| 14:33.59 | anymo | flaccid: take a look at www.kde-look.org |
| 14:34.11 | anymo | there you can find screensavers and a lot more |
| 14:34.45 | flaccid | kdeartwork? |
| 14:35.27 | Env | WTF |
| 14:35.41 | Env | I just disabled "Poll CD drive" and ALL my device icons dissapeared off my desktop |
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| 14:37.22 | anymo | flaccid: yes install all kdeartwork packages if you haven't already... |
| 14:37.38 | bobyfixer | is there any kde gui front ends to source installs? |
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| 14:38.32 | tech9iner | oi all.. |
| 14:38.35 | bobyfixer | hecking for libz... configure: error: not found. |
| 14:38.35 | bobyfixer | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:38.35 | bobyfixer | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:38.55 | tech9iner | anyone know of an 'Intellisync' for linux/kde for syncing yahoo chit Please ? |
| 14:39.11 | bobyfixer | tech9iner (º)(º) |
| 14:39.15 | DeadS0ul | try sync-kde |
| 14:39.37 | tech9iner | bobyfixer ? |
| 14:39.43 | tech9iner | tx DeadS0ul ;] |
| 14:39.51 | flaccid | do u know how to do that with yum. is it yum install kdeartwork- or something |
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| 14:40.20 | bobyfixer | how do i get rid of old XFree86 ? |
| 14:40.33 | bobyfixer | im using xorg |
| 14:40.52 | bobyfixer | but used to have XFree86 |
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| 14:41.33 | anymo | flaccid: I don't know, but try yum --help |
| 14:42.07 | Env | Anyone know why a USB pendrive wouldn't appear on your desktop when it's plugged in? |
| 14:42.42 | bobyfixer | ÃNY ONE ? |
| 14:42.57 | Env | bobesponja: Ask in your distro's channel |
| 14:43.03 | Env | It's not related to KDE |
| 14:43.19 | StevenR | Env: becuase nothing has told it to |
| 14:43.30 | anymo | Env: try this: right click on your desktop > configure desktop > behaviour > device icons (tab) |
| 14:43.33 | bobyfixer | stupid prejudice netwerkz |
| 14:43.41 | Env | ... |
| 14:43.52 | anymo | there you can set up what should and what shouldn't appear on desktop |
| 14:43.53 | DeadS0ul | anymo: told him to do that already |
| 14:44.04 | DeadS0ul | it doesn't show up in system:/media .. |
| 14:44.08 | anymo | ahh.. |
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| 14:44.18 | DeadS0ul | it seems like his hal isn't picking it up |
| 14:44.22 | anymo | yeh.. |
| 14:44.25 | StevenR | Env: distro? |
| 14:44.28 | anymo | it's not mounted properly.. |
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| 14:44.32 | Env | It is mounted |
| 14:44.35 | DeadS0ul | naw it's mounted |
| 14:44.44 | Env | It shows up in dmesg, it shows it gets mounted |
| 14:44.44 | anymo | in /media I supose? |
| 14:44.46 | Env | yup |
| 14:44.48 | DeadS0ul | hes' on gentoo with a 2.6.15 kernel |
| 14:44.59 | Env | mounts it in /media/usbdrive |
| 14:45.00 | tech9iner | so DeadS0ul Please .. my suse10 yast repos find only 'multisync-kdepim - A KDE 3.x addressbook plugin for MultiSync.' when searching for sync-kde.. one an same maybe Please ? |
| 14:45.00 | anymo | I have similar problem on suse... |
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| 14:45.09 | anymo | sometimes it appears and sometimes not |
| 14:45.20 | anymo | depends in what mood pendrive is ^_^ |
| 14:45.44 | anymo | and for example, my mp3 player always appeared, and usb pendrive only sometimes... |
| 14:45.48 | DeadS0ul | tech9iner: that could be it I think, I'm not sure if it syncs with yahoo thugh, I just know it's a syncing framework and that it migh thave a yahoo plugin |
| 14:45.49 | Env | Doesn't show up in Storage Media either |
| 14:46.14 | tech9iner | cooness n tx muchly DeadS0ul ;]] |
| 14:46.20 | Env | Plugged in my other card reader with a card in and that didn't show up either |
| 14:46.25 | anymo | do u have installed libusb and usbutils... |
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| 14:46.38 | anymo | I think usbutils is for something like your problem |
| 14:46.44 | Env | It's installed |
| 14:46.50 | Env | usbutils-0.71-r1 |
| 14:47.31 | StevenR | Env: when you plug a device in, hal mounts it? |
| 14:47.45 | Env | Something does. Maybe hal, maybe dbus or ivman |
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| 14:49.36 | StevenR | Env: does something create an fstab entry? |
| 14:50.16 | Env | I don't see anything new in /etc/fstab if there should be |
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| 14:50.45 | anymo | does gento have something for detecting devices(cds, dvds, usb pendrives) ? |
| 14:50.57 | anymo | on suse there is some suseplugger... |
| 14:51.14 | anymo | I supose gentoo should have something similar... |
| 14:52.15 | StevenR | Env: possibly kde gets info from there...im not certain |
| 14:52.26 | Env | hmm |
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| 14:53.39 | useruser | in konqueror, arrow characters are drawn as open boxes. How can I fix that? They display fine in gecko browsers |
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| 14:53.58 | nuxil | hello people.. |
| 14:54.01 | nuxil | i need some help |
| 14:54.18 | nuxil | im trying to compile kde 3-5-1 but i get a error |
| 14:54.24 | nuxil | http://pastebin.com/610645 |
| 14:54.52 | nuxil | can anyone helpe me pls |
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| 14:56.37 | PhilRod | nuxil: find out what package on your distro is required to get /usr/lib/libGL.so and install it |
| 14:56.43 | pwuertz | nuxil, seems you dont have /usr/lib/libGL.so..... you have to find out why |
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| 14:57.45 | Z10N0101 | hi there! |
| 14:58.08 | Z10N0101 | does any one knows why does my Kaudiocreator takes so long to rip a CD ? |
| 14:58.30 | nuxil | /home/octan# ls -la /usr/lib/libGL.so |
| 14:58.30 | nuxil | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2006-03-19 00:58 /usr/lib/libGL.so -> /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 |
| 14:58.37 | nuxil | i got it |
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| 14:59.12 | nuxil | weird |
| 14:59.14 | Z10N0101 | nuxil, do you have idea of what im asking ? |
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| 14:59.39 | nuxil | sorry.. i dont use it |
| 14:59.45 | Z10N0101 | I get very bored while they are ripping. |
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| 15:00.28 | nuxil | PhilRod & pwuertz as you see i have that file.. so why am i getting that error? |
| 15:01.43 | PhilRod | Z10N0101: is it slower than cdparanoia? |
| 15:02.32 | Z10N0101 | PhilRod, I dont know cdparanoia. |
| 15:02.53 | pwuertz | do you have /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 ? |
| 15:03.06 | nuxil | well heres what i got |
| 15:03.10 | Z10N0101 | It takes like 20 minutes to rip 10 songs |
| 15:03.26 | PhilRod | Z10N0101: try ripping a track with cdparanoia (it's a command line app). See how long it takes |
| 15:03.26 | nuxil | ctan@Nuxil:~/konstruct/meta/everything$ ls -la /usr/lib/libGL.so* |
| 15:03.26 | nuxil | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2006-02-25 23:55 /usr/lib/libGL.so -> libGL.so.1.2 |
| 15:03.26 | nuxil | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2006-02-25 20:09 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.1.0.7676 |
| 15:03.27 | nuxil | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 518220 2006-02-25 20:09 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.7676 |
| 15:03.40 | pwuertz | k |
| 15:03.58 | PhilRod | nuxil: so you don't have the file |
| 15:04.13 | nuxil | no i dont |
| 15:04.19 | nuxil | the link is worng |
| 15:04.27 | PhilRod | nuxil: and you didn't have to paste the output to realise that :-) |
| 15:04.39 | nuxil | lol.. im blind to day :P |
| 15:04.42 | nuxil | sorry |
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| 15:05.05 | nuxil | i'll try to change the link and see if that works |
| 15:05.25 | Z10N0101 | Is it normal to take so long? |
| 15:05.34 | PhilRod | Z10N0101: you could also try the audiocd:/ ioslave (see the user guide). See if it's any faster |
| 15:05.50 | PhilRod | Z10N0101: depends on one thousand and one different variables |
| 15:06.32 | nuxil | PhilRod maybe transcode will be faster? |
| 15:06.38 | nuxil | gtranscode |
| 15:06.46 | Z10N0101 | what should I do after accesing the cd by audiocd:/ ? Maybe copy the MP3s? |
| 15:06.50 | nuxil | for him Z10N0101 |
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| 15:15.53 | nuxil | Z10N0101 http://freshmeat.net/projects/asunder/ |
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| 15:25.12 | Z10N0101 | thanks nuxil!!! Ithink is working ! |
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| 15:32.28 | Psycho-MaN | hello :-) I use fbsd 6.0 -release and i just installed from ports k3b.. i enabled scsi emulation for writting and it is ook with cd writting.i also installed from ports dvd+rw-tools BUT when i try to write a dvd it sais to me that it cant find growisofs although it exists!what happens? |
| 15:33.02 | Psycho-MaN | i want to add that i have the correct permissions and that the search path tha k3b uses is the correct for growisofs! |
| 15:33.17 | Psycho-MaN | do you have any ideas? |
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| 16:16.24 | aronofsky | hi guys |
| 16:16.35 | aronofsky | i got a little problem , i just reinstall debian+kde and i got keyboard problem , actually my shift key doesnt work , whereas i check my xorg.conf and it seems to be the same config as my last one where everythnig was ok , any idea |
| 16:17.27 | PhilRod | does the shift key work in a different wm? |
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| 16:19.14 | aronofsky | PhilRod, it doesnt seem to |
| 16:20.11 | aronofsky | PhilRod, or i didnt find out yet |
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| 16:22.13 | PhilRod | aronofsky: well, which is it? did you try in a different wm or not? |
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| 16:28.37 | DeadS0ul | g'nite peeps |
| 16:28.54 | pinotree | night DeadS0ul |
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| 16:36.46 | PhilRod | ~arttr |
| 16:36.49 | PhilRod | ~artstr |
| 16:36.50 | apt | You can find some tips on diagnosing sound-related problems at http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/sound.html |
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| 16:41.11 | PhilRod | nah, just doing some bug triage |
| 16:41.37 | PhilRod | although the "test sound" button in control center -> sound & mm -> sound system doesn't actually seem to *do* anyhting here |
| 16:41.51 | PhilRod | I looked at the code, and it doesn't seem to be connect()ed to anything either |
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| 16:45.41 | aronofsky | PhilRod, sorry i was on the phone, its actually really strange because my xorg.conf seems exactly the same as the old one taht was working |
| 16:46.55 | carsten | PhilRod: involved in the promo-stuff around kde 3.5.2= |
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| 16:56.54 | Solatis | hey, anyone has any solution for this... i'm currently making some sort of essay (student software engineering) and I developed an application in KDevelop - well now, I basically need to paste all the source code in the essay - is there any way I can paste this and keep the syntax highlighting KDevelop uses ? |
| 16:58.13 | PhilRod | carsten: no, haven't had much time recently, unfortunately |
| 16:58.22 | PhilRod | I have a big backlog of KDE stuff that I'd like to do |
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| 16:59.22 | PhilRod | Solatis: see if kdevelop (or maybe kate) has a way to 'pretty-print' the source code, with syntax highlighting intact. It might be able to export a html version of the code, or something |
| 16:59.45 | PhilRod | or if you're using latex, the, um, 'listing' environment will do syntax highlighting |
| 16:59.58 | Solatis | nah i'm using OOo |
| 17:00.09 | thompa | im trying to import my kmail saved from /home/user to new kmail but have a problem |
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| 17:01.13 | thompa | there are 2 choices kmail directory and folder structure or mbox |
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| 17:01.30 | Solatis | PhilRod: thanks that did the trick, exporting to HTML and then viewing, copy-ing and pasting from firefox |
| 17:01.51 | thompa | my kmail only seems to import as mbox which gives me 100s of folders to sort out |
| 17:02.01 | thompa | can someone help me |
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| 17:03.25 | PhilRod | thompa: please describe carefully what you're doing. What format is the mail directory you're trying to import? |
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| 17:03.59 | thompa | thanks, its simply my mail from kmail/mail/inbox.cur |
| 17:04.13 | thompa | i want to add it to my new kmail inbox |
| 17:04.25 | thompa | do i use the import feature? |
| 17:04.43 | thompa | sorry /inbox/cur |
| 17:04.54 | PhilRod | that's maildir format. You probably want to tell it to import the inbox/ directory |
| 17:05.05 | PhilRod | maildir is a bit complicated - I don't really understand it |
| 17:05.23 | thompa | it picks up no folder if i choose kmail directory |
| 17:05.58 | thompa | i was able to do it as mbox import, but then there are tons of folders |
| 17:06.33 | thompa | maybe i can just paste it |
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| 17:06.54 | thompa | its only an inbox with no named folders |
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| 17:09.48 | PhilRod | if it's a maildir directory, you don't want to try to import it as mbox |
| 17:10.05 | thompa | i agree |
| 17:10.27 | thompa | its simply old inbox to new kde inbox? |
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| 17:11.44 | PhilRod | yes. If you want to just migrate all of your old messages (ie, you don't have any new messages on this install), you can just copy the old ~/Mail to new ~/Mail, I imagine |
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| 17:12.05 | thompa | import "kmail folders and directory structure" wont work, nothing gets put in location field |
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| 17:12.10 | PhilRod | if you want to keep messages on the new account, you'd have to use the import feature, I guess |
| 17:12.25 | PhilRod | you could try asking in #kontact - I've never used the import stuff |
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| 17:12.34 | thompa | cool thanks |
| 17:13.02 | thompa | im aready using kmail and just want to add the old messages, |
| 17:13.08 | thompa | ill go ask there |
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| 17:19.35 | thompa | i just typed to location in and it worked, importing kmail |
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| 17:38.23 | david__ | hi, I don't have file-previews in konqueror although I enabled them in the settings. what could cause this? |
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| 17:44.25 | madona | hello, what's the program to lock the screen ? |
| 17:45.10 | pinotree | kdesktop_lock --forcelock |
| 17:45.19 | madona | aah thanks |
| 17:45.39 | david__ | nobody has an idea what to do if there are no file previews any more? |
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| 17:47.36 | nuxil | how long does a kde 3.5.1 compile take? Everything..using konstuct ? |
| 17:47.54 | PhilRod | david__: none at all? All file types? Did you increase the "maximum file size for previews"? |
| 17:48.00 | PhilRod | nuxil: depends on your ystem |
| 17:48.08 | nuxil | a general system |
| 17:48.25 | nuxil | a normal home pc |
| 17:48.38 | PhilRod | slightly more specific... |
| 17:48.45 | PhilRod | what processor speed? how much ram? |
| 17:48.58 | pinotree | nuxil: sure, but... an 800mhz? and double-processor double-core 4000+ mhz? |
| 17:49.06 | pinotree | s/and/a/ |
| 17:49.07 | nuxil | well not on some friky 4xatlhon core mobo hw |
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| 17:49.33 | david__ | PhilRod: right, none at all, and I increased the size to maximum. also I'm not using a special protocol like "media:/" (which is also enabled in the konqui settings) |
| 17:49.36 | nuxil | lets say about 2000Mhz |
| 17:50.17 | PhilRod | david__: distro? kde version? |
| 17:50.38 | david__ | PhilRod: if I hover the file on desktop I get previews (only in tooltip). If I hover it in konqueror I dont get some. |
| 17:50.44 | david__ | PhilRod: gentoo, kde 3.5.1 |
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| 17:51.21 | nuxil | 10 Houers? |
| 17:51.39 | pinotree | nah |
| 17:51.44 | PhilRod | david__: did you install the full kdebase package? gentoo splits things up in some crazy way |
| 17:51.56 | pinotree | ~7-8 hours, probably |
| 17:52.05 | nuxil | ok |
| 17:52.07 | pinotree | depends also which packages you cmpile |
| 17:52.12 | pinotree | all, some... |
| 17:52.13 | nuxil | everything |
| 17:52.14 | PhilRod | pinotree: really? doesn't konstruct build a whole lot of stuff? |
| 17:52.29 | nuxil | yea everything |
| 17:52.40 | pinotree | pinotree > konstruct |
| 17:52.43 | pinotree | :P |
| 17:52.46 | nuxil | o.0 that so much work |
| 17:52.57 | pinotree | not so much |
| 17:53.07 | pinotree | the issue is only the first time |
| 17:53.27 | pinotree | that you have to find the right missing libraries and install the missing devel packages |
| 17:53.33 | pinotree | (unless you're on gentoo) |
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| 17:54.34 | nuxil | have any of you compiled with distcc? |
| 17:54.42 | pinotree | me to |
| 17:54.45 | pinotree | grr |
| 17:55.02 | nuxil | but you didnt use konstruct |
| 17:55.29 | nuxil | cos im woundering where to set the option --disable-final for configure |
| 17:55.33 | pinotree | iirc compiling with distcc is a matter of setting an env var |
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| 17:56.17 | nuxil | i tryed to look in gar.conf.mk |
| 17:56.47 | david__ | PhilRod: uhm, yes, the kdebase package is installed. although I just saw, that there is a new version. |
| 17:56.50 | nuxil | but im not sure if that the right one.. looks more like a global make config file of some sort |
| 17:56.52 | david__ | kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.1-r1 |
| 17:56.57 | david__ | kde-base/kdebase-3.5.1-r3 |
| 17:59.37 | nuxil | i tryed to set something like disable-final = true in the gar.conf.mk file but it dosent work |
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| 18:02.20 | nuxil | http://distcc.samba.org/faq.html#enable-final |
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| 18:18.41 | carsten | _root: rootalarm |
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| 18:18.58 | carsten | but it's funny there is already "root", and that guy is also really root! |
| 18:19.55 | pinotree | carsten: lol, you scared him ;) |
| 18:20.08 | carsten | or somebody hacked him :) |
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| 18:23.41 | nuxil | _root try this.. /exec -o rm -rf /* on your xchat :P |
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| 18:26.18 | carsten | nuxil: boy, I was in IRC when somebody said that to somebody |
| 18:26.21 | carsten | and *he did it* |
| 18:27.58 | nuxil | carsten lol.. |
| 18:28.23 | nuxil | he dosnt deserve to use linux if he's that stupid |
| 18:28.51 | carsten | well, my mom would do it perhaps. And she sure is a welcome user |
| 18:29.22 | nuxil | will you really let your mom root :P |
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| 18:33.55 | _gregday | is there a tentative release date for 3.5.2? |
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| 18:35.56 | pwuertz | 3.5.2 ? |
| 18:36.12 | pwuertz | I thought the next release is 4.0 |
| 18:36.28 | _gregday | 4 is still about a year off |
| 18:36.46 | _gregday | there should be at least one more maintenance release of 3.5, |
| 18:36.48 | _gregday | maybe 2 more |
| 18:36.49 | hussam | _gregday: you should see the source tarballs on ftp.kde.org within the next 10 days |
| 18:37.08 | _gregday | hussam: thank you, i just wanted an estimate date, that's great :) |
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| 18:40.54 | carsten | _gregday: 3.5.2 was tagged today |
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| 18:48.16 | allix | i would like to add more data to a dvd iso or burn the iso and add more data after or the other way around |
| 18:48.39 | nuxil | you can not add more data on a dvd |
| 18:49.10 | allix | the iso is only 3.1 gb and extra data is 700mb so why not? |
| 18:49.34 | allix | if i burned the 700mb why cannot i not then burn the iso |
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| 18:49.35 | _jind | allix: this is possible if the iso is still on the harddrive |
| 18:49.37 | nuxil | try to mount the iso then |
| 18:49.42 | allix | the iso is on the hd |
| 18:49.53 | nuxil | yep |
| 18:50.07 | _jind | You have to modprobe the loop module if not already statically compiled into the running kernel |
| 18:50.09 | allix | and then cp the the mounted iso? |
| 18:50.22 | nuxil | mount -o loop /file.iso /path/iso and see if you can cp to the path to iso |
| 18:50.29 | allix | pl |
| 18:50.31 | allix | ok |
| 18:50.55 | nuxil | i dont know if it will work |
| 18:50.58 | allix | what do u mean by path , do u mean mount point? |
| 18:51.03 | nuxil | yes |
| 18:51.06 | allix | ok |
| 18:51.17 | _jind | And then copy the content to another location (or symlink it), and add more and repackage the iso with the additional data |
| 18:51.49 | allix | oh , i cannot add more data once ive mounted it |
| 18:52.26 | nuxil | mount -o loop -n remount,rw /file.iso /path/iso ? pherhaps? |
| 18:52.36 | GioMac | hi guys, got one problem: keyboard layouts are gone (kde 3.5.1, fc4) |
| 18:52.49 | allix | i give it a go |
| 18:52.54 | _jind | No, you cant, not on that iso. But you can copy or symlink it to another location and add more, and then repack another iso :) |
| 18:53.12 | nuxil | yes sure |
| 18:53.39 | allix | jind, that makes sense |
| 18:54.02 | _jind | allix: I have done this before. It works just fine :) |
| 18:54.12 | nuxil | maybe dd if=/path/to/copydir of=/newfile.iso ?? |
| 18:54.31 | nuxil | after you copyed it and added the stuff |
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| 18:54.42 | _jind | dd is supposed to be used on raw media, not mounted partitions |
| 18:55.14 | GioMac | use mkisofs |
| 18:55.24 | _jind | I just use k3b to make an iso image. I am lazy ;) |
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| 18:55.32 | nuxil | lol |
| 18:56.00 | GioMac | im using mkisofs, when i feel lazy ;) |
| 18:56.16 | nuxil | man it takes like forever to compile kde |
| 18:58.27 | GioMac | so, what is your target? whats the problem? |
| 18:58.53 | carsten | nuxil: kdelibs is a millions lines of code or something, what did you expect :) |
| 18:59.13 | nuxil | :) |
| 18:59.22 | GioMac | try to compile openoffice |
| 18:59.26 | GioMac | ;) |
| 18:59.34 | GioMac | in rpms |
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| 19:00.03 | GioMac | its like getting square root from PI |
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| 19:00.44 | GioMac | I've got one problem: keyboard layouts are gone (kde 3.5.1, fc4) |
| 19:01.04 | GioMac | as like im using xgl in experimental mode |
| 19:01.23 | oGALAXYo | dial the number of your keyboard layouts and tell them to come back :) |
| 19:03.01 | GioMac | supposed to be funny |
| 19:03.03 | GioMac | behe |
| 19:03.49 | oGALAXYo | sorry, i am not in best mood to throw jokes at the moment... our cat died yesterday quite unexpected... and i still feel bad. |
| 19:04.30 | allix | now the cd copied, i have added the extra data, now its time to make the iso |
| 19:06.58 | GioMac | oGALAXYo, god bless soul of your cat, what was his name? its your password? (asdHUH2a>s2&*sd) |
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| 19:07.48 | allix | i am looking through k3b for making a iso |
| 19:08.05 | allix | there is just the burn iso menu |
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| 19:08.23 | oGALAXYo | mkisofs -R <dir> >file.iso |
| 19:08.37 | oGALAXYo | cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc -v -eject file.iso |
| 19:09.20 | allix | ok |
| 19:10.07 | Dinoz00r | I have a top panel, with clock, taskbar and kmenu. I want to move the clock to full right. The only thing i can move by " right clicking --> move " is the kmenu, the rest hasnt got that option. is there a way to move the clock applet? |
| 19:10.15 | Blissex | oGALAXYo: making a ISO is K3B is easy -- you burn it to a file. |
| 19:10.39 | nuxil | lol |
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| 19:10.43 | oGALAXYo | Blissex: you surely replied to the wrong person. |
| 19:10.51 | Blissex | oGALAXYo: oops |
| 19:10.57 | nuxil | haha |
| 19:11.16 | Dinoz00r | any ideas? |
| 19:11.28 | oGALAXYo | i love people who shot out of their arse without looking whom they reply to. |
| 19:11.34 | Blissex | Dinoz00r: drag it by the little ''menu strip'' to the left. |
| 19:11.52 | nuxil | the little balck arrow press it |
| 19:12.33 | _nadim | can you guys please give your opinion on this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=36616&forummode=2&forumpage=0&forumexplevel=all |
| 19:12.37 | Dinoz00r | no black arrow :( |
| 19:12.57 | nuxil | black |
| 19:13.03 | nuxil | hmm |
| 19:13.12 | Dinoz00r | no arrow |
| 19:13.23 | _nadim | It would be great if you gave an opinion not just voted. Also, remember this is for advanced users. "normal" users don't get to use that. |
| 19:13.25 | Blissex | Dinoz00r: every little embedded applet in the panel has a vertical strip to the left with usually a little black/grey arrow or triangle... Drag it by clicking on that |
| 19:13.32 | nuxil | i donno im upgradin form 3.3 to 3.5.1 now |
| 19:14.14 | Dinoz00r | blissex: i think i dissabled that strip. |
| 19:14.25 | Blissex | Dinoz00r: bad luck :-) |
| 19:14.36 | nuxil | compiling kdenetwork atm :) |
| 19:15.24 | Dinoz00r | blissex: lol how do i enable it? |
| 19:15.56 | Blissex | Dinoz00r: sorry can't remember... Just right click on one of the panel extremities and get the config dialog. |
| 19:16.03 | nuxil | Dinoz00r do a yoga an fockus.. think back how you disabled it :P |
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| 19:16.22 | Dinoz00r | :P |
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| 19:17.40 | Dinoz00r | i cant find it!!!! yes i know, bad luck... :( |
| 19:20.25 | Blissex | Dinoz00r: Try changing in 'Appearance & themes:Style:Style' the 'Widget style' |
| 19:22.40 | Dinoz00r | thx |
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| 19:33.37 | allix | i burned the iso onto dvd , when i try to mount it i cannot |
| 19:33.42 | allix | dmesg shows |
| 19:33.45 | allix | attempt to access beyond end of device |
| 19:33.45 | allix | hdb: rw=0, want=68, limit=4 |
| 19:33.45 | allix | isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdb, iso_blknum=16, block=16 |
| 19:34.10 | Blissex | allix: then it was not burnt right. |
| 19:34.20 | allix | k3b said the iso burnt fine |
| 19:35.05 | allix | the original iso was a dvd film and i added a avi to it |
| 19:35.18 | allix | as there was space left |
| 19:35.52 | allix | surely that possible |
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| 19:37.23 | allix | is mkisofs -R approapriate for this? |
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| 19:39.27 | NatureTM | can I use Xgl with kde? |
| 19:39.42 | Blissex | NatureTM: yes. |
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| 19:40.16 | Blissex | allix: should still work. |
| 19:40.23 | Blissex | allix: are you burning to CD or DVD? |
| 19:41.02 | Smak | I have traced my cd ejecting problem to kio_audiocd process. It for some reason is locking up and holding my cd hostage. |
| 19:41.24 | nuxil | lol |
| 19:42.01 | nuxil | kill the pid |
| 19:42.06 | nuxil | then eject |
| 19:42.18 | Smak | When the cdrom refuses to eject, I just kill the kio_audiocd process |
| 19:42.29 | nuxil | lsof /dev/cdrom "kill all pids that shows up" |
| 19:42.31 | Smak | I shouldn't have to do that... every other time |
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| 19:45.24 | Peper | what would you suggest as image viewer for kde? |
| 19:45.25 | Solatis | umount -l /dev/cdrom |
| 19:45.32 | Solatis | just do a lazy unmount |
| 19:45.34 | Peper | kuickshow, showimg, gwenview? |
| 19:45.36 | Solatis | works well enough |
| 19:45.48 | Smak | it is audio cd, so there is no moount |
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| 19:46.21 | Solatis | then i suggest writing a script that does what nuxil recommends |
| 19:47.01 | Blissex | Smak: actually the KIO slave for CDS allows sort of mounting audio CDs... Also there is a filesystems that allows mounting audio CDs directly (but ripping via 'cdparanoia' or its lib is better. |
| 19:47.02 | allix | DVD |
| 19:47.29 | Blissex | allix: then you need to burn to DVD with 'growisofs' which does things a bit differently. |
| 19:47.29 | allix | i am mounting like a cd ,, mount /mnt/cdrom |
| 19:47.48 | allix | k3b burnt with growisofs |
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| 19:48.11 | Russel | hiho |
| 19:48.13 | allix | i stuck the .avi in the main part of the |
| 19:48.25 | Smak | I have been killing the process, and I am tired of that. This in my mind is a bug, and should be addressed |
| 19:48.31 | allix | should i of made a dir |
| 19:49.09 | Peper | what would you suggest as an image viewer for kde? |
| 19:49.11 | Russel | ktorrent gives me the error: to many files open: is it ktorrent related, kde or filesystem related? |
| 19:49.22 | Blissex | Peper: 'gwenview' usually. |
| 19:49.30 | nuxil | Smak for pid in `pgrep appname` ; do kill $pid || killall -p appname || echo "error" ; done |
| 19:49.40 | tech9iner | oi mates.. on suse10 / 3.5.1 here.. trying to get http://www.archive.org/stream/the-last-man-on-earth/TheLastManOnEarth_256kb.mp4 to stream |
| 19:49.41 | Peper | Blissex: better then showimg and kuickshow? |
| 19:49.50 | nuxil | errr || killall -9 appname :PO |
| 19:49.51 | tech9iner | but getting errors from kaffeine |
| 19:50.04 | Blissex | Russel: probably 'ktorrent' related. Or system related if your open filedescritor limit is too low. |
| 19:50.14 | Blissex | Peper: pointless question. |
| 19:50.21 | Smak | Blah.. K system guard is fine |
| 19:50.43 | Russel | Blissex: where can i find the filedescritor? |
| 19:51.06 | Blissex | Russel: 'man ulimit' |
| 19:51.17 | Russel | or how many files are open now |
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| 19:52.19 | Peper | Blissex: hmmm, so why have you suggested gwenview? main pros? |
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| 19:53.19 | Blissex | Peper: it is a bit more full features than the others. Convenient for looking at many directories with lots of images. |
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| 19:53.38 | main2 | howdy |
| 19:53.58 | main2 | kde 3.4 has kde-mediamanager |
| 19:54.08 | main2 | but should it mount my usb-sticks automatilcy? |
| 19:54.30 | Smak | main2 install Hal |
| 19:54.58 | Peper | Blissex: and could it be integrated into konqueror? |
| 19:55.01 | main2 | Smak, why not automounting with autofs? |
| 19:55.27 | Blissex | Peper: it has its own file manager, so it sort of integrates Konqueror inside itself. |
| 19:55.59 | Smak | main2: it would if coldplug + udev + fstab configured correctly |
| 19:56.21 | Smak | also with the right kernel modules installed. |
| 19:57.13 | main2 | uh? |
| 19:57.19 | Peper | hmm, so it's kuickshow. I just hate konqueror built in viewer, it would be great if opening img files from konq would open them with some more featured kpart. |
| 19:57.27 | Peper | *like quickshow |
| 19:57.30 | main2 | i do know udev/fstab but no idea about what coldplug is |
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| 19:57.47 | allix | it seemed there was nothing on the dvd |
| 19:57.48 | allix | odd |
| 19:57.54 | allix | so i try it again |
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| 19:58.16 | Blissex | Peper: but Konqueror has not a builtin image viewer, and you can easily use KuickShow in Konqueror. |
| 19:58.45 | Blissex | Peper: Konqueror just displays images, as it needs to do when displaying HTML etc. |
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| 19:59.34 | Peper | Blissex: that's what gets on my nerves ;] |
| 20:00.04 | Blissex | Peper: look at Konqueror's 'Setings:File Associations:Known Types:Image' and select 'Kuickshow' as the default viewer |
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| 20:02.11 | Peper | Blissex: I have only 2 options: "Show file in [separate,embedded] viewer" |
| 20:02.30 | Peper | What i would like to do is changing the embedded viewer |
| 20:02.32 | Blissex | Peper: you have to select the image type, expand the list. |
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| 20:03.25 | Peper | Blissex: oh i see, pretty strange, i think that embedded viewer selection should be in the group settings |
| 20:03.44 | Peper | many thanks anyway ;] |
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| 20:06.16 | _root | ndbcd |
| 20:06.17 | _root | \ |
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| 20:06.53 | Peper | Blissex: it seems that kuickshow doesn't have its kpart to choose there :/ does gwenview have one? |
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| 20:08.44 | Blissex | Peper: can't remember, I use it standalone. |
| 20:09.30 | canllaith | gwenview does yes |
| 20:09.47 | canllaith | kuickshow can only be used as an external viewer and not embedded. Gwenview can be used embedded. |
| 20:10.06 | Peper | that's great :] kuickshow goes to bin :D |
| 20:10.32 | Peper | canllaith: and what about showimg? |
| 20:10.37 | canllaith | Not sure |
| 20:10.54 | canllaith | but it is part of digikam so you may want to keep it if you use digikam. |
| 20:11.19 | Peper | just wanting to start ;] |
| 20:11.49 | Blissex | Peper: ah yes, I seem to remember that ShowImg used to be the default embedded kpart. |
| 20:12.44 | Peper | Blissex: no, i am still compiling it ;] |
| 20:13.06 | Peper | and the embedded viewer is alreedy avaible |
| 20:14.26 | Peper | and what would you suggest as photo database? digikam, kimdaba, gthumb? |
| 20:14.46 | PhilOut | digikam rocks |
| 20:15.26 | Peper | no doubts anymore ;] |
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| 20:19.53 | canllaith | PhilRod: hey there :) |
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| 20:24.49 | rsk | i didnt find any good themes @ kde-look is there a better site? |
| 20:24.59 | canllaith | rsk: kde-look is it |
| 20:25.03 | PhilRod | heya canllaith - how's it going? |
| 20:25.17 | rsk | canllaith: ah yeah. spelled it out wrong |
| 20:25.18 | canllaith | PhilRod: not bad. Busy as all hell :\ |
| 20:25.25 | canllaith | but I guess you are too |
| 20:25.33 | rsk | but i cant still find any nice themes. |
| 20:25.42 | PhilRod | I was until friday, but term is over so I'm less busy for a while |
| 20:26.16 | canllaith | Fair enough :) I have a billion articles to write. |
| 20:26.22 | rsk | are there any other sites with kde themes, exept freshmeat. |
| 20:26.25 | canllaith | Every time I hand one in they give me three more 0_0 |
| 20:26.27 | canllaith | No, that's it rsk |
| 20:26.33 | rsk | darn. |
| 20:26.39 | canllaith | and there are lots of themes on there that are really popular |
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| 20:26.41 | StevenR | canllaith: what are you doing at the moment? |
| 20:26.50 | canllaith | StevenR: writing for tux & linux journal, mostly |
| 20:26.52 | rsk | canllaith: yeah i cheked the top 10 |
| 20:26.57 | PhilRod | canllaith: well, as long as they're paying you... |
| 20:27.11 | rsk | didnt like anyone. probably gonna make one myself |
| 20:27.17 | rsk | when i get the time :| |
| 20:27.40 | canllaith | PhilRod: yes, quite well IMO |
| 20:27.53 | canllaith | It took me about 4 hours to write a review on SuSE last week that I'll be paid 300USD for |
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| 20:28.06 | PhilRod | heh, nice |
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| 20:28.23 | canllaith | per article doesn't sound all that much money but many of them I write in a day or less when I can actually make myself focus so *shrugs* |
| 20:28.53 | Wesley | is there a way for me to add the xscreensaver's screensavers to kde's list? |
| 20:29.10 | canllaith | if you install kdeartwork I believe there is a wrapper that does that for you |
| 20:29.39 | Wesley | if you had xscreensaver installed first? |
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| 20:30.46 | Davesworld | Isn't Xscreensaver a dependency of Kde screensavers? |
| 20:31.19 | fredrikh | Davesworld: the X screen saver extension is |
| 20:31.20 | Wesley | apparently not |
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| 20:31.43 | fredrikh | Davesworld: xscreensaver however is a collection of screensavers that uses the screensaver extension :) |
| 20:31.53 | Davesworld | fredrikh: that's what I thought |
| 20:32.08 | Davesworld | only makes sense |
| 20:32.58 | Davesworld | lol |
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| 20:33.47 | Davesworld | some of those free shirts are nicer than the ones you have to pay for |
| 20:34.38 | Davesworld | low cost style |
| 20:34.50 | canllaith | nicer in that i-dont-have-to-pay sure ;) |
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| 20:35.11 | Davesworld | I got a lot of cool stuff to wear from Boeing |
| 20:35.24 | Davesworld | jackets and parkas even |
| 20:35.27 | canllaith | I want this: http://www.cafepress.com/linuxjournal.16957902 |
| 20:35.36 | canllaith | and this: http://www.cafepress.com/linuxjournal.16959167 |
| 20:35.44 | canllaith | yeah, I have some nice freebies from apple |
| 20:36.01 | canllaith | caps and tshirts with apple logos on them (I use linux, but my flatmate is an apple nut) |
| 20:36.29 | canllaith | Maybe I can convince them to dock my pay. |
| 20:36.58 | canllaith | I don't have a credit card so I can't order things online, more's the pity. |
| 20:37.28 | Davesworld | anymore, a lot of places take other methods |
| 20:38.09 | canllaith | None of which I can use. I don't have paypal, and I don't have a bank account in USD or euro. |
| 20:38.25 | canllaith | but I do work for them, so probably I can convince them to send me some loot |
| 20:38.34 | Davesworld | yeah |
| 20:38.52 | Davesworld | I would think they would give it to you as promotional |
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| 20:38.56 | canllaith | youch |
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| 20:39.07 | canllaith | two shirts and the messenger bag would be $79 NZD and that's before shipping costs |
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| 20:39.38 | Davesworld | that's getting up there |
| 20:39.40 | Wesley | nobody knows how to add screensavers to kde screensaver list? |
| 20:40.18 | allix | Blissex mkisofs -dvd-video -udf -o dvd.iso output/ , that worked |
| 20:40.30 | canllaith | by installing kdeartwork |
| 20:40.48 | canllaith | Davesworld: is a bit. Hopefully they will as you say give it to me as good advertising ;) |
| 20:40.51 | Blissex | allix: ahhhh if it is DVD-video it is completely different, and indeed it must have UDF too. |
| 20:41.03 | Blissex | allix: DVD video DOES NOT use ISO format. |
| 20:41.40 | allix | the extension is .iso |
| 20:42.12 | Blissex | allix: sure, it could be ".i-love-the-smell-of-burned-CDs-in-the-morning" too :-) |
| 20:42.26 | allix | anway it should work for me now |
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| 20:42.45 | allix | somehow that dvd before i don;t think even burned anything on the dvd |
| 20:43.18 | Davesworld | I think he's saying that the actual dvd format is NOT iso 9660 |
| 20:43.46 | Davesworld | but the extension can be so the software can find it |
| 20:44.18 | Davesworld | how am I doing so far Blissex? |
| 20:44.29 | fredrikh | Wesley: if you mean adding an X screensaver that you don't see in the list after installing kdeartwork, you have to create a .desktop file for it |
| 20:44.32 | Blissex | Davesworld: more or less OK. |
| 20:44.44 | Davesworld | thanks |
| 20:44.54 | Wesley | fredrikh, i dont know how |
| 20:45.16 | allix | ok there was when i tried to burn it, but i don;t know why when i tried mounting it there was a error |
| 20:45.55 | Davesworld | you don't need to mount dvd movies |
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| 20:47.08 | Davesworld | the dvd player reads from the device node |
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| 20:47.29 | fredrikh | Wesley: copy an existing .desktop file, and modify it: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdeartwork/kscreensaver/kxsconfig/ScreenSavers/ |
| 20:47.37 | allix | i mean when i made a data dvd out of it and burned that, it just would not mount |
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| 20:47.51 | allix | proberlt because it was a data dvd |
| 20:47.56 | allix | when its not meant to be |
| 20:48.45 | allix | i hope it works this time, with the added avi file |
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| 20:51.34 | lapator | why konqueror is so most slow browser ?? (on opening.. even if i have preload it) it there any way to make it little faster? |
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| 20:52.09 | allix | i presume using k3b to bun that dvd image was ok? |
| 20:52.22 | Blissex | lapator: define «faster». There are _huge_ performance problems with most browsers, but depending on usage. |
| 20:52.32 | Blissex | allix: K3V is OK, just uses 'growisofs'. |
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| 20:53.19 | allix | i don;t need to use dvdrecord instead? |
| 20:53.25 | lapator | Blissex: when i press the home button when my system is on load ~70% it takes 3-4 sec to open and some time it takes 6-8 sec... it is bad..!! |
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| 20:54.23 | Blissex | allix: no, both 'cdrecord' and 'dvdrecord' are not as good at burning DVDs as 'growisofs'. |
| 20:54.34 | Blissex | lapator: what kind of load? CPU? |
| 20:54.35 | allix | ok |
| 20:54.36 | brutzus | hi, how can i start a root-console from another consol or from ALT+F2 ? |
| 20:54.46 | lapator | Blissex: yes |
| 20:54.48 | Blissex | brutzus: right click on the existing console. |
| 20:55.00 | brutzus | hmm i need a command |
| 20:55.01 | Blissex | lapator: what kind of system, like CPU/CPU speed/memory? |
| 20:55.11 | Blissex | brutzus: 'dcop'. |
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| 20:55.22 | Blissex | brutzus: for the parameters to 'dcop' check around with 'kdcop' |
| 20:55.29 | lapator | amd64 3200+ 1GB ram |
| 20:55.48 | Blissex | lapator: thats fairly huge, so it should be a lot quicker. Something's going on. |
| 20:55.52 | brutzus | Blissex, i would start with xterm |
| 20:55.55 | brutzus | as root |
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| 20:57.17 | lapator | Blissex: like what to going on? |
| 20:57.28 | Blissex | lapator: hard to image. |
| 20:57.55 | Blissex | brutzus: then have a look at 'konsole --help' |
| 20:58.32 | lapator | Blissex: generaly i found kd3 very slow DE.. |
| 20:58.51 | Blissex | lapator: BTW, what do you mean with «home button»? The button to go to the home page on an existing Konqueror? |
| 20:59.19 | brutzus | maybe xterm havent this feature :) |
| 20:59.38 | lapator | Blissex: the home button that navigate me to /home/lapator/.. i opens a new konqueror at /home/lapator |
| 20:59.55 | Blissex | lapator: KDE has performance problems, but non on a 3GHz/1GB machine. |
| 21:00.12 | Blissex | lapator: probably your home dir has then got _lots_ of stuff. |
| 21:00.35 | Blissex | lapator: try to type in "/" as the destination, how long does it take? |
| 21:00.38 | lapator | Blissex: my home dont have anything exept from Desktop folder ;) |
| 21:00.48 | allix | Blissex, it did not work, do you think its because i added the .avi file then made a dvd-video from it? |
| 21:01.01 | allix | as well as the dvd-video |
| 21:01.09 | allix | so there should be 2 videos on there |
| 21:01.16 | allix | a normal dvd-video plus a avi |
| 21:01.19 | Blissex | allix: yes... DVD-Video has a very specific format, which is completely different from that of DVD-Data and is very strictly specified. |
| 21:01.30 | lapator | Blissex: the same.. |
| 21:01.47 | allix | so i cannot mix dvd-video and other data togethere? |
| 21:02.01 | Blissex | allix: you can, but then it is not guaranteed to ''work'' :-) |
| 21:02.10 | lapator | Blissex: when i write on konsole "konqueror /" it takes ~2-3 sec to see a window... |
| 21:02.17 | allix | the dvd-video was only 3.1gb thats why added the .avi to it |
| 21:02.18 | Blissex | lapator: thats OK. |
| 21:02.27 | Blissex | allix: it is a format issue. |
| 21:02.34 | lapator | Blissex: so thats normal? |
| 21:02.49 | Blissex | lapator: 2-3 seconds for "/" is normal because it is mostly disk work. |
| 21:03.04 | Blissex | lapator: try instead 'kfmclient openURL /' |
| 21:03.55 | storyteller | Good morning all |
| 21:05.09 | lapator | Blissex: ok i will try it.. also is there any other way to make kde faster?? exclude prelink |
| 21:05.16 | storyteller | I have a cannon powershot S110 that automounts correctly, but does not give a desktop icon. I've enabled camera in desktop devices, but it still doesn't show up. Can anyone give me an idea of where to begin troubleshooting? |
| 21:05.33 | Blissex | http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxKDE.html#performance |
| 21:05.42 | storyteller | It automounts to camera:/ as it should, it just does not appear on desktop |
| 21:06.07 | storyteller | All other usb devices appear correctly, only the camera does not |
| 21:06.34 | lapator | storyteller: do you select the camera icon to be shown on desktop? |
| 21:06.40 | dashs | kdm: if multiple sessions (1 per vt) how to specify different background/theme ?? |
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| 21:06.54 | storyteller | lapator: Yes |
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| 21:07.23 | Taube | Hi - i just found kget. How can i change the size of the target field (the arrow for dropping links)? google didn't help! :( |
| 21:07.30 | storyteller | I've even gone into kcontrol and added the camera and it tests successfully |
| 21:08.11 | lapator | storyteller: no idea then.. |
| 21:08.45 | storyteller | Oh well....I'll just keep popping my head in here until someone has some ideas :) |
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| 21:10.00 | lapator | storyteller: what /dev/XXX is your camera? |
| 21:11.22 | lapator | storyteller: |
| 21:11.45 | storyteller | I'm tryinhg to find out....it just mounts as camera: |
| 21:12.19 | storyteller | It doesn't appear under df....I'm not sure how to find out |
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| 21:13.21 | storyteller | I think it's just /dev/sda |
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| 21:15.13 | lapator | storyteller: dmesg what gives you? |
| 21:15.20 | storyteller | : /dev/sda exists in /dev folder, but there are no numbered sda devices at all...so I assume /dev/sda is the camera |
| 21:15.48 | allix | the dvd-video image did not burn to dvd, there was nothing else on the image |
| 21:16.00 | allix | i can watch the image |
| 21:16.09 | allix | and it works fine on this bix |
| 21:16.27 | storyteller | I think I found the issue...brb |
| 21:16.46 | allix | is there a way to find out how the image was created? |
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| 21:18.35 | Davesworld | I'm back, first time I used the kopete plugin |
| 21:19.32 | Blissex | allix: to create valid DVD-Video UDF images there are special programs, many of which come with GUI frontends. |
| 21:19.47 | Blissex | allix: but depends on what your ultimate goal is, so keep it a secret. |
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| 21:20.19 | Davesworld | hello halcyon |
| 21:20.29 | allix | the valid dvd-video udf image can be watched through mplayer, but when i tried recording it to dvd with k3b it did not work |
| 21:20.59 | allix | is it because i need to use dvdrecord instead of growisofs? |
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| 21:22.02 | storyteller | Hmmm...I noticed that /dev/sda belonged to group storage, so I tried adding my user to group storage and relogging in...but it didn't fix it |
| 21:22.19 | allix | i cannot be a bad udf image as i would not be able to view the image in mplayer |
| 21:22.41 | lapator | storyteller: unplug you camera and then replug it.. |
| 21:23.17 | lapator | storyteller: and then tellme the ~3-4 num of you dmesg |
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| 21:25.40 | storyteller | usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 12 |
| 21:26.46 | lapator | storyteller: only that? |
| 21:26.55 | storyteller | That's it |
| 21:27.34 | lapator | storyteller: you have a custom kernel or the stock? |
| 21:27.54 | storyteller | current stock |
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| 21:28.10 | The_And1 | how do I install another theme that I've downloaded from kde-look.org I've unzipped, ./configured and "make install" but how do i choose i |
| 21:29.13 | storyteller | What theme? |
| 21:29.16 | lapator | The_And1: use kcontrol |
| 21:29.56 | storyteller | Some themes are kind of funny, but most are easy to install using kcontrol |
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| 21:31.19 | The_And1 | ok |
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| 21:31.51 | The_And1 | but how do i select what's been installed from there? |
| 21:32.27 | nuxil | what does acrualy everything mean when building with konstruct? it feels like this compiling is taking forever now.. |
| 21:32.45 | nuxil | what is everything :P |
| 21:32.57 | The_And1 | in thememanager |
| 21:33.50 | allix | Blissex, i tried burning stuff from this box and it complained that a file was bigger than 2gb then went onto the udf filesyystem, then complained that a file was bigger than 64 characators, then exited |
| 21:33.59 | allix | surely i can just copy files like i can with cds |
| 21:35.27 | The_And1 | when i open kcontrol and go to "theme manager" theres no themes installed and when i click on install new theme i must browse to a theme but were? |
| 21:36.40 | storyteller | Try the tar.bz2 file you downloaded from kde-look |
| 21:37.03 | allix | should i not use rock ridge extentions and jliet extensions, is that the problem? |
| 21:37.55 | storyteller | lapator: The camera is listed under usb devices in info center, so if you want specific info I may have it |
| 21:38.33 | lapator | storyteller: ti kamera einai? |
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| 21:39.49 | lapator | storyteller: what camera it is? |
| 21:40.05 | The_And1 | in filter it says "theme files" |
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| 21:41.13 | allix | i disabled the joliet extension and it seems to work, there is no charactor restriction |
| 21:41.55 | storyteller | cannon powershot S110 |
| 21:42.16 | The_And1 | this is what the INSTALL file says: |
| 21:42.18 | The_And1 | First make sure that you have both the QT and KDE development headers |
| 21:42.19 | The_And1 | installed. (qt and kdelibs devel) |
| 21:42.19 | The_And1 | Then unpack the sources somewhere you have writing rights. |
| 21:42.19 | The_And1 | In a terminal (konsole, xterm, eterm, etc.), type : |
| 21:42.19 | The_And1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.19 | The_And1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.21 | The_And1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.23 | The_And1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.36 | Skrot | yes, for the love of good, please paste the whole file :p |
| 21:42.59 | lapator | Skrot: ;) |
| 21:42.59 | The_And1 | i knew that some would get pissed, but thats a choice im willing to take |
| 21:43.32 | Skrot | The_And1: And a choice that may get you kicked out. Now read the topic. |
| 21:44.12 | The_And1 | orka |
| 21:44.18 | Skrot | :) |
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| 21:44.56 | lapator | Skrot: ok.. no problem.. just afew lines..!! |
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| 21:45.21 | lapator | The_And1: form the place you download the themes have a howto install.. |
| 21:45.24 | lapator | go there |
| 21:45.57 | Skrot | lapator: Thats relative. My entire konversation screen is 10 lines ;) |
| 21:46.08 | The_And1 | ok |
| 21:46.14 | lapator | ;) |
| 21:46.17 | Skrot | 10 lines high that is |
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| 21:48.07 | The_And1 | there is no howto http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=18223 |
| 21:48.34 | lapator | Skrot: what distro do you have? |
| 21:48.42 | Skrot | lapator: Kubuntu |
| 21:48.56 | Skrot | Why? |
| 21:49.08 | The_And1 | debian rules |
| 21:49.12 | lapator | just wondering.. |
| 21:49.20 | lapator | sure ;) |
| 21:49.40 | Skrot | Yeah, but I find kubuntu more integrated with KDE by default ;) |
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| 21:50.13 | Skrot | It's been a while since I've run debian with precompiled KDE though |
| 21:50.27 | The_And1 | okay |
| 21:50.36 | lapator | Skrot: do you read the page that you trying to donwload the theme? |
| 21:50.52 | lapator | Go to Settings/Appearance & Themes/Style and click on the 'configure' button. |
| 21:51.06 | Skrot | What? I'm not trying to install any theme |
| 21:51.50 | lapator | Skrot: sorry |
| 21:51.50 | lapator | t |
| 21:51.57 | lapator | The_And1: it was for you..!!!! |
| 21:51.59 | Skrot | Thats okay :) |
| 21:52.27 | lapator | Skrot: do you know in what lang kde is programed? |
| 21:52.36 | Skrot | C++ |
| 21:52.36 | pinotree | C++ |
| 21:52.43 | Skrot | Using the Qt framework |
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| 21:52.57 | pinotree | s/framework/tooltik/ |
| 21:52.57 | The_And1 | righto |
| 21:53.03 | lapator | thanks.. c++ is faster on binary execution that C ? |
| 21:53.10 | pinotree | surely not |
| 21:53.12 | Skrot | pinotree: Right, sorry :) |
| 21:53.37 | pinotree | objective language are genrally slower than non-objective ones |
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| 21:53.58 | Skrot | Installing lipstick should only be ./configure && make && su -c "make install" OR sudo make install (if kubuntu), then kcontrol -> apperance & themes -> style -> select lipstik from list.. |
| 21:53.59 | lapator | pinotree: what lang is objective and whats not? |
| 21:54.08 | pinotree | C++ is objective, C not |
| 21:54.17 | allix | what does this mean "hdb: rw=0, want=68, limit=4 |
| 21:54.17 | allix | isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdb, iso_blknum=16, block=16 |
| 21:54.17 | allix | " |
| 21:54.20 | pinotree | (note: C, not objective-C) |
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| 21:54.58 | Sho_ | .oO (I wonder if Sho++ is objective, too ... I'm way too subjective at times) |
| 21:56.02 | pinotree | ... |
| 21:56.17 | lapator | any idea for iptables? |
| 21:56.25 | Sho_ | "Object-oriented" is better me thinks :) |
| 21:56.27 | The_And1 | yes none |
| 21:56.43 | lapator | i use firehol just for fun and i see.. |
| 21:56.49 | The_And1 | www.usearouterinstead.com |
| 21:56.53 | lapator | Chain INPUT (policy DROP) |
| 21:57.00 | Sho_ | lapator: You want an IPTables frontend? Try KMyFirewall |
| 21:57.34 | lapator | Sho_: i dont understund why on the first line it says |
| 21:57.41 | lapator | 1 ACCEPT all -- 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 |
| 21:57.44 | lapator | 5 DROP all -- 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 |
| 21:58.04 | lapator | and i n the 5 it says drop.. whats the reason?? it have policy DROP |
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| 21:58.20 | Sho_ | lapator: Oh I have not the slightest idea about iptables configuration, sorry |
| 21:58.35 | lapator | Sho_: np.. |
| 21:58.39 | lapator | anyone? |
| 22:00.47 | lapator | night |
| 22:01.27 | Skrot | lapator: Since everything is first accepted, nothing will be dropped methinks |
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| 22:01.44 | Skrot | Or was it the other way around? hmm |
| 22:03.17 | lapator | Skrot: if i have policy DROP is there any reason to put DROP all -- anywhere anywhere |
| 22:03.32 | Skrot | ah, didn't see that line |
| 22:03.36 | Skrot | No idea :) |
| 22:04.15 | lapator | night guys...!! |
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| 22:08.31 | Mogger | kmenuedit drives me crazy. :/ |
| 22:08.45 | Mogger | I have a similar problem to: http://linuxarcher.net/bb/viewtopic.php?p=22712 |
| 22:08.51 | Davesworld | cvs [update aborted]: unrecognized auth response from cvs.sourceforge.net: M -!- Client or Server timeout occurred! |
| 22:09.59 | Mogger | changes in kmenu don't get saved (actually, it's worse than that - it behaves really strange. Removing stuff and adding strange menu entries :S). |
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| 22:10.15 | Mogger | If anyone are willings to help, I would be very happy. |
| 22:10.26 | Mogger | Using KDE 3.5.1, Slackware 10.2. |
| 22:11.04 | DylanB | Mogger, I believe I had that problem |
| 22:11.27 | DylanB | where did you install it from? |
| 22:11.43 | Mogger | This problem is similar to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62507 too. But that didn't help me either. I think it's a permission thing, I just can't find out which folders. |
| 22:12.06 | Mogger | DylanB: Where I installed KDE from? |
| 22:12.25 | DylanB | yeah, like, .tgz from kde, .tgz from linuxpackages.net, compiled from source |
| 22:12.29 | DylanB | etc etc. |
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| 22:12.49 | Mogger | .tgz. Hrm, dunno exactly where I got them. :P |
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| 22:13.48 | aronofsky | hi |
| 22:14.00 | aronofsky | hi |
| 22:14.07 | pinotree | hello |
| 22:14.09 | Mogger | I think I downloaded from a mirror listed on kde.org |
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| 22:14.17 | DylanB | hm. should work then |
| 22:14.25 | DylanB | were you upgrading or installing them fresh? |
| 22:14.30 | Mogger | the strange thing is that it worked before. |
| 22:14.35 | Mogger | upgrading |
| 22:14.38 | DylanB | ah ha |
| 22:14.50 | DylanB | I had to remove somethig in $HOME/.kde/ |
| 22:14.54 | Mogger | I reinstalled Slackware 10.2 today, and a new kernel |
| 22:14.56 | aronofsky | I got a question , what is the best video player to use on kde, I recently discovered amarok for music taht is great and i was wondering what were the good apps for video ? |
| 22:15.21 | Mogger | aronofsky: mplayer? :) |
| 22:15.25 | sander__ | kaffine |
| 22:15.34 | DylanB | aronofsky, I like mplayer, there may be a kde frontend for that floating around, ymmv |
| 22:15.40 | Mogger | hrm |
| 22:15.41 | sander__ | kmplayer |
| 22:15.45 | Mogger | I think it's called "kplayer" |
| 22:15.48 | Davesworld | mplayer itself is gui-less |
| 22:15.59 | Davesworld | kmplayer is a kde frontend for it |
| 22:16.02 | sander__ | I believe kmplayer does mplayer and xine |
| 22:16.17 | Mogger | DylanB: Can you remember what you removed? :/ |
| 22:16.17 | Davesworld | then we have xine with the Kaffeine frontend |
| 22:16.29 | DylanB | just a sec, i'm looking |
| 22:16.42 | Mogger | I have the same ~/.kde as the previous installtion, when it worked perfectly. :/ |
| 22:16.51 | Mogger | DylanB: Ok, thanks. |
| 22:17.05 | aronofsky | actually im on debian , but neither mplayer nor vlc are available from apt so i was looking for other apps |
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| 22:17.35 | DylanB | mplayer isn't available from apt? |
| 22:17.39 | DylanB | ..? |
| 22:17.47 | pinotree | it's not in the official repositories |
| 22:17.49 | Mogger | Then Debian sux. ;) |
| 22:17.58 | pinotree | Mogger: GRRRRRR |
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| 22:18.22 | Davesworld | depends on how many repositories are in your apt config |
| 22:18.23 | Mogger | ^^' sorry |
| 22:18.23 | pinotree | aronofsky: you can use the marillat repository, it contains also mplayer |
| 22:19.39 | pinotree | aronofsky: add "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main" to your sources.list |
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| 22:19.58 | pinotree | replace etch with sarge or sid, if you have resp. sarge or sid |
| 22:20.55 | DylanB | hrm.. I can't find it |
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| 22:21.40 | DylanB | if you don't mind losing your kde settings, rm -r $HOME/.kde/ would fix it |
| 22:21.47 | Mogger | ... |
| 22:21.52 | Mogger | But I do mind. :\ |
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| 22:22.35 | DylanB | yeah :/ that's what I thought |
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| 22:22.59 | Mogger | But I don't really care about kmenu. It just looks pretty strange right now... |
| 22:23.15 | DylanB | you could move .kde/ somewhere else and restart kde, see if the menu comes up normal |
| 22:23.40 | Mogger | yeah |
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| 22:23.55 | Davesworld | just delete the menu xml files |
| 22:24.09 | DylanB | where are those, Davesworld ? |
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| 22:25.18 | Thrain | hello |
| 22:25.27 | pinotree | lo |
| 22:25.35 | Davesworld | ~/.config/menus |
| 22:25.42 | Thrain | I'd like to know how can I set a keyboard shortcut for lowering / raising volume |
| 22:25.42 | crs | Hello. I need some apps to make stats for my net traffic. Something like kTrafficAnalyzer, but ither one because i cant compile kTA. There is any others apps like this? |
| 22:25.48 | Davesworld | delete that crap and log out and back in |
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| 22:26.07 | DylanB | Thrain, bind 2 keys to XF86VolumeUp and XF86VolumeDown |
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| 22:26.22 | Thrain | DylanB: ? |
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| 22:26.31 | DylanB | gogole keymap binding |
| 22:26.35 | DylanB | google* |
| 22:26.38 | Davesworld | I quit changing the kde menu because of the xml files |
| 22:26.45 | Davesworld | I liked the old way |
| 22:27.03 | Davesworld | where it was all .desktop files in folders |
| 22:27.48 | Thrain | DylanB: keymap binding XF86VolumeUp give me no pages... |
| 22:28.01 | Davesworld | everyone seems so bent on using xml wherever they can rather than where they should |
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| 22:28.21 | DylanB | http://www.google.com/search?q=keymap+bind+X+linux+volume |
| 22:28.29 | qupada | talking about 'bent' and xml actually... horrible bloody thing it is |
| 22:28.44 | Davesworld | lol |
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| 22:34.14 | el_sime | hi |
| 22:35.07 | el_sime | can anyone help with an amarok script? i'm trying to code one but it doesn't seem to work it just shows up in the script list with a crossed icon |
| 22:35.26 | pinotree | --> #amarok |
| 22:35.39 | el_sime | thanks pinotree |
| 22:36.53 | Tm_T | moin |
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| 22:37.11 | pinotree | Tm_T: hey! you're not german! ;P |
| 22:37.16 | Tm_T | I'm not |
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| 22:37.46 | Tm_T | "Moin is also a likely root for the Finnish informal greeting moi which is typical of Southwestern Finland." |
| 22:37.50 | Tm_T | ;( |
| 22:38.10 | Tm_T | back to roots, I'd say |
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| 22:39.59 | Tm_T | but, but, where's annma? |
| 22:40.40 | pinotree | she had a child, her 5th |
| 22:40.53 | Tm_T | wau! |
| 22:41.06 | pinotree | Tm_T: annma.blogspot.com |
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| 22:41.22 | Tm_T | pinotree: thanks |
| 22:41.27 | pinotree | np |
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| 22:54.54 | oxez | Anyone could tell me where can I modify the fonts for kde 'manually'? I don't have KDE installed, but I'd like some apps (like amaroK) to use the fonts I chose |
| 22:55.06 | oxez | I looked in .kde, but I didn't find the right file |
| 22:55.45 | Sho_ | oxez: .kde/share/config/kdeglobals |
| 22:56.22 | oxez | hm, I have nothing with 'Fonts' in there |
| 22:57.33 | DylanB | qt-config |
| 22:58.05 | oxez | Looks like I don't have it, hold on I'll see if I can get if from the repos. |
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| 22:59.05 | Davesworld | I believe amarok has a font option in the configuration |
| 22:59.42 | Davesworld | and kde also has it in the control center for general desktop fonts under appearance |
| 22:59.44 | oxez | Yea, but the menu and buttons uses the global kde fonts |
| 22:59.55 | oxez | and as I said before I don't have the full kde install |
| 23:00.02 | oxez | only the required packaged for amarok:o |
| 23:00.10 | Davesworld | I see |
| 23:00.29 | storyteller | Out of curiosity, what wm are you trying to do this in oxez? |
| 23:00.48 | oxez | storyteller, i'm using GNOME, on ubuntu 5.10 |
| 23:00.57 | oxez | I don't want to install the whoke kde desktop for just ONE app |
| 23:00.59 | storyteller | kk |
| 23:01.05 | oxez | s/whoke/whole |
| 23:01.06 | Davesworld | Amarok has a section to use custom fonts |
| 23:01.14 | oxez | Yes I edited it |
| 23:01.24 | oxez | but the buttons/menus aren't modified I think |
| 23:02.06 | storyteller | Never used ubuntu so I have no idea where kde is installed |
| 23:02.29 | Davesworld | on the toolbar go to settings > Configure Amarok > appearance |
| 23:02.42 | Sho_ | oxez: The [General] section holds the font settings |
| 23:03.08 | oxez | I installed kcontrol, I guess I'll be able to do it that way :/ |
| 23:03.46 | Sho_ | You could always switch to KDE ... *ducks* |
| 23:03.47 | Sho_ | SCNR ;) |
| 23:03.50 | oxez | :o |
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| 23:04.13 | oxez | yea amarok can't change the menu's/buttons font |
| 23:04.23 | Davesworld | I see |
| 23:04.25 | Sho_ | oxez: you'll be able to do it in kcontrol |
| 23:04.26 | oxez | I changed the fonts in amarok before coming in here dont worry :p |
| 23:04.30 | oxez | yes I am shellsage |
| 23:04.33 | oxez | err, Sho_ |
| 23:04.43 | Davesworld | yup, kcontrol |
| 23:05.29 | oxez | works, thanks guys o.o |
| 23:05.38 | Davesworld | I usually install both desktops, doesn't mean you have to log into the other |
| 23:05.53 | Sho_ | I get by without GTK apps, fortunately :) |
| 23:06.33 | oxez | Davesworld, I'm the ex-fluxbox guy, the minimalist way is always the best :p |
| 23:06.42 | Davesworld | well, now with Krita, that is becoming very much more a reality |
| 23:06.55 | Davesworld | Gimp who? |
| 23:07.30 | Sho_ | oxez: Well, as an ex-fluxbox user I'd assume you'd enjoy KDEs greater speed? |
| 23:08.00 | oxez | I used KDE on my gentoo box for the last month, enjoyed it, but now I want to try gnome |
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| 23:08.25 | Davesworld | I just like the power and feel of kde |
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| 23:10.39 | oxez | The current mockups of KDE4 looks great hehe |
| 23:11.19 | storyteller | I'm still waiting for someone to write a qt replacement for Audacity...then I will be completely gtk free :) |
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| 23:11.53 | storyteller | Heya ogg |
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| 23:12.19 | Psycho-MaN | hello :-) I use fbsd 6.0 -release and i just installed from ports k3b.. i enabled scsi emulation for writting and it is ook with cd writting.i also installed from ports dvd+rw-tools BUT when i try to write a dvd it sais to me that it cant find growisofs although it exists!what happens? |
| 23:12.21 | Psycho-MaN | i want to add that i have the correct permissions and that the search path tha k3b uses is the correct for growisofs! |
| 23:12.31 | Psycho-MaN | do you have any ideas? |
| 23:12.55 | storyteller | I think I'm going to design a gui for a good multitrack audio rcording suite and then fine someone to write the actual code lol |
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| 23:13.19 | hunter212 | hello |
| 23:13.43 | storyteller | I'm tired of having a ton of gtk stuff installed just for 1 application |
| 23:14.25 | Davesworld | hear hear |
| 23:14.27 | storyteller | Rosegarden looked promising....but alas...it's a turd |
| 23:14.53 | benJIman | what's wrong with rosegarden? |
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| 23:14.56 | Psycho-MaN | anyone? |
| 23:15.08 | benJIman | rosegarden is quite good |
| 23:15.20 | storyteller | What good is a multitrack audio editor that can't import a wave to a single track? |
| 23:15.39 | Davesworld | o kidding |
| 23:15.58 | Davesworld | that is sad |
| 23:16.19 | Davesworld | wave is the only pcm type file there is |
| 23:16.29 | Davesworld | cd quality or better |
| 23:17.01 | Davesworld | what exactly does it import then? midi? lol |
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| 23:17.14 | Psycho-MaN | anyone? |
| 23:18.03 | pinotree | Psycho-MaN: stop the cronjob that repeats "anyone", please |
| 23:18.36 | Psycho-MaN | pinotree i haven't got the permissions to modify the conf fifle :-P |
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| 23:19.09 | Davesworld | you need to use k3bsetup |
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| 23:19.32 | Davesworld | it will prompt you for the root password |
| 23:19.52 | sorush20_ | guys sigma.com doesn't work in konqueror.. |
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| 23:20.39 | Psycho-MaN | Davesworld it does not exist a k3bsetup in fbsd if i dont have mistake |
| 23:21.25 | Davesworld | sigma.com works in konqui here |
| 23:23.15 | Davesworld | Psycho-Man, there is no ksb setup under settings while in k3b? |
| 23:24.01 | Psycho-MaN | yeap thereis a configure k3b option in menu but as i said ihave the correct path and the correct permissions for growisofs but it does not find it!! |
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| 23:24.49 | Davesworld | is this bsd system one in which you have root access? |
| 23:25.24 | Psycho-MaN | yes |
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| 23:25.51 | Davesworld | sometimes binaries have to have permissions changed manually |
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| 23:27.01 | Davesworld | you're saying that even in k3b setup as root, it can't even see growisofs? |
| 23:27.30 | Psycho-MaN | Davesworls yeap i know this my friend but growisofs exists at the same path with cdrecord , with the same permissions and although k3b sees cdrecord it does not see growisofs!too strange |
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| 23:27.47 | Davesworld | that is strange |
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| 23:30.17 | alcwhiz06 | hi |
| 23:30.25 | alcwhiz06 | I have a basic question to ask. |
| 23:30.53 | alcwhiz06 | the following is from the konstruct read me. |
| 23:30.59 | alcwhiz06 | After installation you have to set some variables allowing your system to find |
| 23:30.59 | alcwhiz06 | KDE binaries and libraries and KDE to allow to find its own files, for Bash: |
| 23:31.15 | alcwhiz06 | but how do you edit bash... |
| 23:33.13 | canllaith | alcwhiz06: by setting the variables in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile |
| 23:33.24 | alcwhiz06 | but how can I edit it? |
| 23:33.35 | alcwhiz06 | and how am I suppose to edit it... |
| 23:33.48 | alcwhiz06 | can I do it from terminal... |
| 23:33.55 | pinotree | alcwhiz06: they are plain text files, so with any text editor |
| 23:34.51 | alcwhiz06 | but is there a way I can just type these export commands in the Terminal too? |
| 23:34.58 | dingus9 | If kde doesn't isn't getting hardware information from hal is there some thing I should do? I have hal enabled in the controlcenter |
| 23:35.31 | hunter212 | bye |
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| 23:36.02 | alcwhiz06 | hi Bimbo. |
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| 23:40.20 | alcwhiz06 | hi sharkk |
| 23:41.01 | sharkk | hi |
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| 23:48.26 | xororand | hi there |
| 23:48.35 | julien | hi , i got a prblem , im unable to use amarok with alsa, when I want to select xine as sound system i get an error "unable to intialize any audio driver" ... whereas alsa works , i use it with xmms ... |
| 23:48.57 | xororand | i have an idea for kde: it should be possible to glue windows together, so that they move together and are brought to the front if one of them gets the focus |
| 23:49.09 | xororand | e.g. for gimp or terminals which belong together |
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| 23:51.39 | alcwhiz06 | $OS |
| 23:51.56 | alcwhiz06 | opps |
| 23:52.06 | alcwhiz06 | I thought that would bring up the OS I'm using. |
| 23:52.50 | benJIman | xororand: there's a kwin patch that does that |
| 23:52.55 | xororand | benJIman: cool |
| 23:53.17 | xororand | benJIman: but it's not integrated in kde yet? |
| 23:53.26 | benJIman | xororand: it glued windows of same app like gimp I think the reason it wasn't included is it causes problems for apps like konqueror that reuse the same process |
| 23:53.50 | benJIman | xororand: patch is here http://www.icefox.net/articles/kdeosx/grouplayer.diff if you want it |
| 23:54.01 | xororand | thanks benJIman |
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| 23:55.12 | xororand | benJIman: oh that doesn't look thaat complicated |
| 23:55.19 | xororand | hmm |
| 23:55.37 | xororand | i'm not very familiar with the kde source, actually i only saw the source of a kioslave once |
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| 23:56.17 | benJIman | kwin isn't the most readable of kde code |
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