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| 00:02.09 | *** topic/#kde is Latest releases: stable: 3.5. See www.kde.org | kde-look and kde-apps are down | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/ | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | $OS vs $OS flamewars tiring, don't even *start* you will be banned. That goes for KDE vs Gnome too. |
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| 00:02.13 | annma | what does that? |
| 00:02.27 | cbr | gftp for example |
| 00:02.34 | cbr | although it crashes for me for some reason :S |
| 00:02.41 | cbr | and isnt very good at it |
| 00:02.46 | cbr | wget does it for that matter :p |
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| 00:03.04 | cbr | SmartFTP does it if we're not sticking to one OS |
| 00:03.27 | Triffid_Hunter | i'm pretty sure konqueror automatically reconnects |
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| 00:03.52 | cbr | Triffid_Hunter: displayed an error page for me |
| 00:05.34 | qfh | kwallet always "loses" my wallet on 3.5.0, when i log out and in again it reappears |
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| 00:05.56 | Triffid_Hunter | qfh: yeah, you have to log back in to the wallet... |
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| 00:06.18 | qfh | no it's not shown in the wallet manager |
| 00:06.32 | qfh | ah ok |
| 00:06.36 | qfh | kded crashed |
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| 00:31.03 | kjetilho | w0ls0n: that's not really a KDE question, it's a general question about the X.org (or XFree.org) server |
| 00:31.03 | Triffid_Hunter | w0ls0n: add s3 framebuffer support to your kernel and tell xorg to use it |
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| 00:31.55 | w0ls0n | say again? |
| 00:32.05 | w0ls0n | could that be in ports? |
| 00:33.53 | w0ls0n | how do I do that? |
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| 00:48.30 | rajulocal | In korganizer, I have a bunch of todo setup. These show up under summary tab on the left side. But there does not seem to be a way to rearrange their. Is rearranging the todo's order possible? Using Debian Unstable 3.4.3 |
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| 00:53.26 | Ringwraith` | hey annma :) |
| 00:54.03 | annma | re :) |
| 00:54.28 | w0ls0n | can anyone help guide me getting me kde working with my s3 card? |
| 00:54.46 | Ringwraith` | you mean X ? |
| 00:54.46 | annma | s3? |
| 00:55.02 | annma | w0ls0n: kde is an interface that uses X settings |
| 00:55.21 | w0ls0n | hmm |
| 00:55.33 | w0ls0n | well how can I get a higher res? |
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| 00:55.58 | mebsd | what distribution |
| 00:56.06 | w0ls0n | freebsd |
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| 00:56.22 | w0ls0n | I only get 640 x 480 (yuck) |
| 00:56.27 | annma | Xorg.conf |
| 00:56.42 | annma | ask in #freebsd |
| 00:57.00 | w0ls0n | they're assholes tonight othewise I would |
| 00:57.08 | w0ls0n | join #xorg |
| 00:57.11 | w0ls0n | oops |
| 00:57.15 | annma | yes and use google |
| 00:57.38 | Ringwraith` | w0ls0n, well trust me they probably arent the worst asshole ive seen |
| 00:57.53 | Ringwraith` | and ive seen some assholes in my time |
| 00:58.14 | mebsd | X -configure |
| 00:58.20 | mebsd | you did that? |
| 00:58.24 | w0ls0n | yes |
| 00:58.27 | mebsd | now |
| 00:58.43 | mebsd | move the file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 00:58.46 | mebsd | did that? |
| 00:58.49 | w0ls0n | k |
| 00:58.51 | w0ls0n | sec |
| 00:58.59 | mebsd | move the created file to there |
| 00:59.13 | w0ls0n | I ust have /usr/X11R6/ |
| 00:59.27 | mebsd | no you have /etc/X11 too |
| 00:59.30 | w0ls0n | only |
| 00:59.43 | mebsd | mve the stupid file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 01:00.00 | mebsd | echo "startkde">~/.xinitrc |
| 01:00.05 | w0ls0n | it told me to put it there |
| 01:00.06 | mebsd | and type startx |
| 01:00.14 | dager | no |
| 01:00.17 | dager | exec startkde |
| 01:00.17 | dager | i think |
| 01:00.19 | w0ls0n | sec |
| 01:00.27 | mebsd | same shit, startkde or exec startkde |
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| 01:01.06 | mebsd | if you can't start the shit you are using the wrong OS |
| 01:01.31 | mebsd | use fedora, mandrake, or something |
| 01:01.33 | w0ls0n | well it works with another computer without X11 so go figure |
| 01:01.34 | mebsd | mandriva |
| 01:01.41 | drivamgr2006 | morning kde... Just looking for a quick update on a couple of ppl who visited earlier. Annma - did nuxil manage to get himself sorted out? |
| 01:01.48 | w0ls0n | been using bsd for years but just started using X |
| 01:02.22 | mebsd | how do you use bsd for years without reading documentation |
| 01:02.30 | annma | drivamgr2006: no idea, i don't remember but i think yes with dcop |
| 01:02.38 | drivamgr2006 | mebsd: with extreme difficulty! |
| 01:02.49 | sunrai | hey stop picking on him |
| 01:03.12 | mebsd | why |
| 01:03.13 | superstoned | a tip i use for getting X to work: boot with a livecd and copy the working xorg.conf (or merge it yourself with your own) |
| 01:03.18 | drivamgr2006 | thanks annma - what about the other dude you were helping, Sharat or something....? |
| 01:03.33 | drivamgr2006 | can't remember what the heck he wanted... |
| 01:03.43 | mebsd | if you can't start X, you will come back here with alot more questions |
| 01:04.08 | annma | drivamgr2006: one built kdevelop and had db problems and PhilRod sorted him out |
| 01:04.43 | theverant | anyone know much about setting up a dual monitor system? |
| 01:04.43 | drivamgr2006 | thats him annma. If philrod sorted him out, fair enough. thats another one out the way! :) |
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| 01:05.35 | sunrai | to see if X works just run 'X' |
| 01:05.50 | sunrai | hey left anyhow |
| 01:06.22 | mebsd | X -configure works better in bsd than in linux |
| 01:06.32 | mebsd | he shouldn't have problem |
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| 01:07.18 | annma | drivamgr2006: lol |
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| 01:08.13 | wolson | nope didn't work |
| 01:08.42 | wolson | and as i said before i have been using bsd as a server only not using X |
| 01:09.12 | annma | wolson: google for it |
| 01:09.18 | annma | that's your best bet |
| 01:09.44 | wolson | i have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf and a /usr/X11R6/xorg.conf |
| 01:09.52 | wolson | ok thank you |
| 01:09.54 | grepper | anyone know an example of a pykde app ? |
| 01:10.12 | grepper | the example page I saw seemed to be all pyqt without the kde |
| 01:10.28 | annma | grepper: i'd like to see one too |
| 01:10.36 | grepper | oops |
| 01:10.45 | grepper | start coding :) |
| 01:10.46 | annma | but pykde zealots only brags about it but shows nothing |
| 01:10.58 | annma | no, that's not my thing |
| 01:11.03 | sredna | grepper: Hal device manager |
| 01:11.08 | grepper | I"m trying to talk the tovid dev into using it |
| 01:11.12 | annma | yes, recent blog |
| 01:11.14 | sredna | See planetkde.org |
| 01:11.21 | grepper | ok, thanks |
| 01:11.31 | annma | it came out yesterday |
| 01:12.07 | sunrai | wolson: are you in console now? |
| 01:13.05 | sunrai | check out the logs in /var/log/Xorg* |
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| 01:16.27 | wolson | ya i'll check the logs |
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| 01:18.30 | wolson | S3 Inc. ProSavage KM133 rev 3 |
| 01:18.31 | sunrai | wolson: what card? |
| 01:18.50 | wolson | that's what i got :-) |
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| 01:19.08 | wolson | only temporary of course... waiting for my memory to come back from california |
| 01:19.53 | wolson | hsync out of range is what it says in the log |
| 01:20.04 | wolson | next to all the video resolutions |
| 01:20.34 | wolson | i'll look up my video resolutions for my monitor |
| 01:21.11 | sunrai | no you want to find the error |
| 01:21.26 | sunrai | find the "(EE)" |
| 01:22.45 | wolson | didn't find any errors |
| 01:22.46 | decOding | can anyone tell me what is the font used on this screenshot: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/pre2/21168-2.jpg |
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| 01:23.35 | sunrai | ok then |
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| 01:23.56 | sunrai | so you got it working, wd :P |
| 01:24.21 | wolson | it works but it only works in 640X480 |
| 01:24.29 | kjetilho | decOding: looks like the standard "clean" bitmap font. (ie. not a TrueType font) |
| 01:24.30 | willwork4foo | heya - do I need kdebindings for KDE 3.5 to work? or is it used just for development stuff |
| 01:24.52 | wolson | (II) SAVAGE(0): Not using default mode "640x350" (hsync out of range) |
| 01:24.52 | wolson | (II) SAVAGE(0): Not using default mode "320x175" (hsync out of range) |
| 01:24.58 | wolson | i got a lot of those |
| 01:25.09 | sunrai | so you got X working? |
| 01:25.13 | decOding | kjetilho: its name is Clear ? |
| 01:25.28 | kjetilho | decOding: i.e. start up good old xfontsel, select "clean" as family, "medium" as weight and "r" as slant |
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| 01:25.40 | Triffid_Hunter | wolson: so pull your hsync and vertrefresh lines and give it Option "UseEDIDFreqs" "true" and Option "DPMS" "true" instead |
| 01:25.40 | sunrai | you need the hsync and vsync ranges from your monitor, sometimes they are on the back. |
| 01:25.41 | kjetilho | Schumacher Clean |
| 01:26.34 | Triffid_Hunter | sunrai: can get them from the monitor via video card using EDID too.. that's how mine is set up.. means i can plug it into a tv without having to change anything; just sorts itself out automatically |
| 01:26.55 | sunrai | sweet |
| 01:26.57 | willwork4foo | Triffid_Hunter: do I need kdebindings for KDE 3.5 to work properly? or is it used just for development |
| 01:26.58 | straw | UseEDIDFreqs is specific to nvidia |
| 01:27.05 | sunrai | :( |
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| 01:27.22 | decOding | kjetilho: where are those fonts located ? the ones I see with xfontsel? and can I use it as KDE font? |
| 01:27.27 | Triffid_Hunter | willwork4foo: what's kdebindings? |
| 01:27.38 | Triffid_Hunter | straw: is it? oh that's no fun :/ |
| 01:27.46 | willwork4foo | Triffid_Hunter: kdebindings-3.5.0 |
| 01:27.47 | sunrai | wolson: what monitor do you have? |
| 01:28.01 | willwork4foo | it's one of the tarballs in the list |
| 01:28.05 | willwork4foo | for the kde 3.5 download |
| 01:28.34 | kjetilho | decOding: sorry, I don't use KDE, so I don't know. but you can look up the font path with "xset q". it will typically use a font server listening on port 7100, with configuration in /etc/X11/fs/config |
| 01:28.41 | Triffid_Hunter | there you go then, you already know more than me about whatever it is you're asking ;) |
| 01:28.54 | decOding | aah that much noise for a single font |
| 01:28.57 | decOding | :) |
| 01:29.01 | straw | willwork4foo: kde will work fine without kdebindings |
| 01:29.02 | kjetilho | decOding: if you look for fonts.dir in those directories, you'll find the mapping from font name to filename |
| 01:29.05 | willwork4foo | Triffid_Hunter: so I take it I don't need it then :) |
| 01:29.08 | willwork4foo | cool thanks straw |
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| 01:29.36 | kjetilho | not that you really need to worry about the fonts filename. you can't really use that anywhere :-) |
| 01:29.54 | Triffid_Hunter | willwork4foo: i have no idea what kdebindings even is.. |
| 01:30.30 | willwork4foo | Triffid_Hunter: neither do I. but it's the last tarball for kde3.5 for my *complete* install that I've been working on for two days. |
| 01:30.49 | willwork4foo | I have no idea what it is, but it's now gone past practicality and entered principle. |
| 01:31.02 | willwork4foo | I want the full KDE install - every last widget and nut and bolt. |
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| 01:31.43 | Triffid_Hunter | lol willwork4foo you'll never use 90% of it ;) |
| 01:32.10 | straw | bindings - python, perl, java, etc |
| 01:32.51 | willwork4foo | Triffid_Hunter: that's not the point :) |
| 01:33.17 | kendrick | anyone here using KDE Hal Device Manager? |
| 01:33.26 | straw | yup |
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| 01:33.34 | kendrick | it's a python script; when i run it, python complains: "ImportError: No module named dbus" |
| 01:34.15 | thiago | kendrick: install that Python module |
| 01:34.28 | decOding | thiago: congratulations ur new job at TT |
| 01:34.29 | decOding | :) |
| 01:34.31 | wolson | ok here goes nothin |
| 01:34.32 | kendrick | *cough* nevermind |
| 01:34.40 | thiago | decOding: thanks |
| 01:34.41 | kendrick | i _did_ install... but the wrong version |
| 01:34.44 | decOding | :) |
| 01:34.52 | kendrick | my Python is still 2.3; i installed python2.4-dbus :) |
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| 01:35.33 | kendrick | "The DBUs Python Bindings you are using are too old." |
| 01:35.34 | kendrick | grr |
| 01:35.44 | kendrick | should i upgrade python to 2.4, then? :) |
| 01:35.50 | willwork4foo | right. crunch time. |
| 01:36.05 | willwork4foo | let's see if the past 2 days of work have paid off and i have a working KDE 3.5 |
| 01:36.16 | StevenR | willwork4foo: you finally finished the compile? |
| 01:37.45 | sunrai | oh hear |
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| 01:40.02 | kjetilho | hmm. global keybindings -- they require the use of kwin as window manager, right? |
| 01:40.21 | visik7 | do I need to checkout all libs of kde from branches ? to compile a single piece ? or I can use my 3.5 headers ? |
| 01:40.34 | thiago | visik7: branches = 3.5 |
| 01:40.39 | willwork4foo | feck it. arts crashes when kde 3.5 starts. |
| 01:40.48 | willwork4foo | I'm going to try and recompile and reinstall it |
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| 01:40.57 | thiago | willwork4foo: does the backtrace include something about "pool" ? |
| 01:41.04 | Triffid_Hunter | willwork4foo: yep that's been normal for arts for quite some time now.. ever since i first used it actually |
| 01:41.10 | willwork4foo | I don't know. it;s not on screen any more |
| 01:41.14 | willwork4foo | Triffid_Hunter: ? |
| 01:41.15 | visik7 | thiago: ok so if I need to get the latest kopete version (the one fixed from sending messages) do I need to get trunk ? |
| 01:41.19 | Triffid_Hunter | willwork4foo: i just turned arts support off and washed my hands of it ;) |
| 01:41.28 | willwork4foo | oh ok |
| 01:41.28 | thiago | visik7: no, in fact you CANNOT use trunk |
| 01:41.37 | willwork4foo | I've never ever had a problem with it before |
| 01:41.41 | visik7 | ok, so how can I do ? |
| 01:41.56 | thiago | visik7: just use the headers you have |
| 01:42.03 | visik7 | where is the patched source code ? |
| 01:42.10 | visik7 | I mean the patched source code of 3.5 |
| 01:42.17 | visik7 | of kopete in particular |
| 01:42.30 | thiago | visik7: nowhere |
| 01:42.37 | thiago | visik7: you must fetch the source from Subversion |
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| 01:42.44 | wolson | bad things happened!! |
| 01:42.47 | visik7 | thiago: yes I want to use subversion |
| 01:42.48 | thiago | kopete.kde.org/svnaccess.php |
| 01:43.31 | wolson | anything else i can do to make this thing work? |
| 01:43.47 | thiago | wolson: you can start by saying what "this thing" is |
| 01:43.59 | wolson | to answer your question earlier i have a g72 ibm |
| 01:44.03 | sunrai | wolson: answer are you in X ? |
| 01:44.08 | wolson | yup |
| 01:44.46 | sunrai | wolson: no need to log out of X everytime, just edit the xorg.conf type 'X :1' in a console to test it. |
| 01:44.50 | wolson | only choices i have is 640x480 and 320 by something |
| 01:45.05 | thiago | 320x240 |
| 01:45.05 | wolson | cool.. i didn't know that .. thank you |
| 01:45.08 | wolson | ya that's it |
| 01:45.13 | thiago | it means your X driver is the VGA one only |
| 01:45.18 | thiago | not even the VESA driver is being used |
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| 01:45.30 | thiago | run this: X -probe (from the console without X running) |
| 01:45.39 | thiago | it'll probe your hardware and write a sample configuration |
| 01:45.45 | wolson | ok be back in a sec :-) |
| 01:45.47 | sunrai | no |
| 01:45.48 | sunrai | ! |
| 01:45.50 | wolson | ok |
| 01:45.54 | sunrai | X :1 -probe |
| 01:47.39 | sunrai | back yet? |
| 01:47.45 | willwork4foo | bugger. sodding arts is broken now. |
| 01:48.02 | willwork4foo | I get a KDE crash handler message appear when I start KDE 3.5 |
| 01:48.12 | thiago | willwork4foo: arts? |
| 01:48.17 | wolson | http://pastebin.com/495825 |
| 01:48.22 | wolson | that's what it says |
| 01:48.38 | willwork4foo | "The application Soundserver (artsd) crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT) |
| 01:48.45 | wolson | am i sol? |
| 01:48.49 | thiago | willwork4foo: click Backtrace |
| 01:48.56 | sunrai | wolson: are you using the savage driver? |
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| 01:49.10 | willwork4foo | thiago: want me to pastebin the backtrace? |
| 01:49.14 | thiago | willwork4foo: yes |
| 01:49.27 | willwork4foo | brb then - wait a sec |
| 01:49.32 | wolson | i'm um well i'm not sure |
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| 01:49.55 | sunrai | wolson: then your not. |
| 01:49.56 | wolson | how do i tell... you got a few minutes right? |
| 01:49.56 | sunrai | lol |
| 01:50.10 | wolson | :-) |
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| 01:50.17 | sunrai | edit xorg.conf |
| 01:50.34 | willwork4foo | just switching to desktop with irc |
| 01:50.55 | wolson | i'm there |
| 01:51.07 | willwork4foo | thiago: http://pastebin.com/495828 |
| 01:51.08 | sunrai | i got a 24" lcd |
| 01:51.13 | sunrai | 1920x1600 |
| 01:51.21 | sunrai | 1920x1200 sorry |
| 01:51.35 | wolson | Driver "savage" |
| 01:51.35 | wolson | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.35 | wolson | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.36 | wolson | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.42 | thiago | willwork4foo: sorry, it's not something I recognise |
| 01:51.48 | StevenR | Paleo: ping |
| 01:51.49 | willwork4foo | thiago: typical. |
| 01:52.11 | sunrai | wolson: put it on pastebin |
| 01:52.16 | willwork4foo | two days I've spent trying to get KDE 3.5 working in all it's fullness on my desktop. and what do I get? errors on startup, and no fegging sound. |
| 01:52.21 | sunrai | before i get bored. |
| 01:52.23 | wolson | ok |
| 01:52.28 | thiago | willwork4foo: you've compiled KDE on your own? |
| 01:52.47 | willwork4foo | thiago: yes. because none of the scripts or anything else resolve all the dependencies. |
| 01:52.57 | willwork4foo | so I had to go through and resolve all of them myself. by hand. |
| 01:52.59 | thiago | willwork4foo: you mean konstruct? |
| 01:53.18 | willwork4foo | thiago: konstruct doesn't resolve missing dependencies for things like zeroconf, etc |
| 01:53.18 | StevenR | thiago: no, he means _really_ by hand :) |
| 01:53.24 | wolson | http://pastebin.com/495835 |
| 01:53.29 | wolson | here ya go :-) |
| 01:53.36 | StevenR | willwork4foo: did the bits of wood work? |
| 01:53.41 | thiago | willwork4foo: ok |
| 01:53.49 | thiago | willwork4foo: where did you get the sources from? |
| 01:53.52 | willwork4foo | thiago: I mean - I downloaded all the tarballs, I decompressed them, and I ran make on each of them, and installed them one by one. |
| 01:53.56 | willwork4foo | from the kde website |
| 01:54.12 | thiago | willwork4foo: did you choose a --prefix when configuring? |
| 01:54.17 | willwork4foo | thiago: no |
| 01:54.18 | StevenR | willwork4foo: did you build them in the order pat does in the slackbuild script? |
| 01:54.22 | willwork4foo | StevenR: yes. |
| 01:54.29 | thiago | willwork4foo: did you have KDE installed when you compiled KDE? |
| 01:54.38 | willwork4foo | thiago: yes. |
| 01:54.52 | thiago | willwork4foo: that may be the problem |
| 01:55.00 | StevenR | willwork4foo: errm...that sounds like you'd end up linking some things wrongly and cause badness |
| 01:55.07 | willwork4foo | bugger. |
| 01:55.11 | thiago | willwork4foo: if you did not choose a prefix and you did have KDE installed, your previous KDE installation interfered with the compilation |
| 01:55.20 | willwork4foo | so you're saying I need to start all over again? |
| 01:55.21 | thiago | willwork4foo: where did that other KDE installation come from? |
| 01:55.32 | willwork4foo | thiago: it was installed with slackware |
| 01:55.43 | willwork4foo | StevenR: I'd prefer a decent rifle and some ammo at the moment |
| 01:55.44 | thiago | willwork4foo: hmm... Slackware generally builds pristine stuff |
| 01:55.48 | StevenR | willwork4foo: you'll still have all the deps, you'll just need to recompile the kde bits again |
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| 01:55.58 | willwork4foo | I could lean out of my window and pick off passers-by |
| 01:55.58 | visik7 | I've got some problem with autoconf and kdenetwork here it is : http://pastebin.com/495839 |
| 01:55.59 | sunrai | wolson: fix the horizsync, and vertrefresh |
| 01:56.04 | willwork4foo | StevenR: right. |
| 01:56.11 | StevenR | willwork4foo: but you'd make a mess of the computer, and you know it's difficult to get the blood off |
| 01:56.11 | willwork4foo | StevenR: that takes a long time |
| 01:56.28 | wolson | ok |
| 01:56.31 | willwork4foo | StevenR: nah - long range sniping of various members of the public. |
| 01:56.43 | StevenR | willwork4foo: where do you live? |
| 01:56.56 | straw | uhh, not funny |
| 01:57.12 | willwork4foo | StevenR: Bristol, UK |
| 01:57.17 | thiago | willwork4foo: I don't know what this is. |
| 01:57.30 | willwork4foo | thiago: never mind - I'm being slightly sick and twisted |
| 01:57.31 | thiago | willwork4foo: all I can say is that the KDE build I made myself doesn't have any aRts crashes |
| 01:57.39 | thiago | willwork4foo: however, I do have one advice |
| 01:57.45 | willwork4foo | yes? |
| 01:57.52 | thiago | willwork4foo: if you're building from sources, don't use the tarballs, but Subversion checkouts |
| 01:57.57 | sunrai | wolson: you have 2 screen sections for screen0 ones a complete mess |
| 01:58.05 | thiago | there have been several bugfixes that will be present in KDE 3.5.1 |
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| 01:58.32 | willwork4foo | yes, because god forbid anyone uses the ones that have been plastered all over the kde website and advertised as working. That would just be silly - to assume that they would build without a problem |
| 01:58.57 | candy | thiago, r u brazilian ? |
| 01:59.01 | thiago | candy: yes I am |
| 01:59.09 | willwork4foo | OK - I'm NOT doing this again manually. Is there a script I can run that will just download it all and compile it for me, and fix whatever the hell needs to be fixed? |
| 01:59.10 | candy | stuborn, me too |
| 01:59.14 | thiago | willwork4foo: they did, when they were released. |
| 01:59.24 | thiago | willwork4foo: that was a few months ago |
| 01:59.25 | willwork4foo | thiago: and they've changed since then? |
| 01:59.32 | candy | thiago, me too |
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| 01:59.41 | willwork4foo | the same tarballs? |
| 01:59.44 | thiago | willwork4foo: oh, no |
| 01:59.48 | thiago | willwork4foo: the code in Subversion |
| 02:00.04 | willwork4foo | thiago: you don't see the irony in what I'm saying |
| 02:00.04 | thiago | willwork4foo: that's why I am telling you you should use the most up-to-date version |
| 02:00.09 | wolson | HorizSync 30.0 - 69.0 |
| 02:00.10 | wolson | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:00.10 | wolson | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:00.11 | willwork4foo | thiago: right. |
| 02:00.15 | wolson | is that better? |
| 02:00.22 | willwork4foo | OK - one question |
| 02:00.33 | willwork4foo | I am NOT doing this manually again. EVER. |
| 02:00.39 | thiago | willwork4foo: kdesvn-build |
| 02:00.39 | straw | wolson: you said IBM G72? |
| 02:00.43 | wolson | yes |
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| 02:00.53 | willwork4foo | thiago: OK, now how idiot-proof is that to get to work |
| 02:01.00 | wolson | got it from ibm websit |
| 02:01.02 | thiago | willwork4foo: not very |
| 02:01.03 | straw | wolson: IBM; IBM 6547 G72; ibm1993; 30.0-69.0; 50.0-120.0; 1 |
| 02:01.10 | willwork4foo | and how much am I going to need to un-bugger my system from it's current screwed up state first |
| 02:01.20 | thiago | willwork4foo: it's supposed to fetch the sources and build it, but it's a developer tool |
| 02:01.27 | willwork4foo | brb - lemme drop out of KDE into a window manager that actually works |
| 02:01.43 | wolson | are you sure? go to ibm.com they say somehting else |
| 02:02.01 | candy | thiago, eu posso falar em portgues, com voce ? |
| 02:02.09 | thiago | candy: not here. #kde-brasil |
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| 02:02.19 | sunrai | sounds saver |
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| 02:02.25 | wolson | how do i apply those settings without rebooting kde? |
| 02:02.38 | visik7 | I've got some problem with autoconf and kdenetwork here it is : http://pastebin.com/495839 |
| 02:02.42 | candy | thiago, ok |
| 02:02.43 | willwork4foo | hooray for fluxbox. |
| 02:02.44 | sunrai | wolson: your xorg.conf is a total mess..just wait.. |
| 02:02.45 | willwork4foo | right |
| 02:02.46 | willwork4foo | so - kdesvn-build |
| 02:02.48 | thiago | willwork4foo: as I was saying, kdesvn-build is the tool the developers use to build KDE for them |
| 02:02.49 | willwork4foo | thiago: you claim this is an easy tool to use? |
| 02:03.00 | wolson | ok waiting.. i have patience. thank you for your time :-) |
| 02:03.03 | candy | thiago, how can i get good apperance in fonts using kde |
| 02:03.09 | thiago | once you set it up, it'll rebuild the whole KDE with one single "kdesvn-build" command |
| 02:03.21 | willwork4foo | thiago: aha. "once I set it up" |
| 02:03.46 | willwork4foo | how many man-hours of pain do I need to endure to get to the part where that's done |
| 02:03.49 | thiago | willwork4foo: there should be sample rc files for that |
| 02:04.02 | thiago | willwork4foo: try the website: http://kdesvn-build.kde.org |
| 02:04.21 | thiago | willwork4foo: it is the only tool *I* know. And the build I made when KDE 3.5.0 was released worked fine. |
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| 02:04.30 | hawking | does anyone know configuring hotkeys on laptops? for example my fn+f12 button is written as "completed event "hotkey ATKD 00000030 000000ab" in /var/log/acpid how can i configure it so that it will turn the volume up in kde? |
| 02:04.41 | willwork4foo | thiago: ok. right. |
| 02:04.44 | willwork4foo | I'll give it a go. |
| 02:05.04 | willwork4foo | let me guess - first of all, I need to remove all traces of KDE from my system as it stands at the moment, yes? |
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| 02:05.15 | thiago | willwork4foo: I think that would be a good idea |
| 02:05.39 | thiago | your old Slackware build was probably overwritten with your own build |
| 02:06.14 | willwork4foo | right. I've just used pkgtool to remove all the KDE packages that I saw |
| 02:06.22 | sunrai | wolson: try that http://pastebin.com/495846 |
| 02:06.27 | willwork4foo | and I'm now going to go to /opt and remove the entire kde directory. |
| 02:07.06 | sunrai | wolson: so a "X :1 -config <pathtonew>/xorg.conf |
| 02:07.07 | willwork4foo | ooo kde 4 |
| 02:07.15 | willwork4foo | is that even worth looking at? |
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| 02:07.29 | thiago | willwork4foo: not at the moment |
| 02:07.34 | willwork4foo | fair enough. |
| 02:07.37 | willwork4foo | 3.5 it is |
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| 02:07.39 | thiago | willwork4foo: unless you're a developer and willing to fix bugs |
| 02:07.52 | thiago | as it stands, you'll have a hard time making the first module build |
| 02:08.19 | willwork4foo | No, and no. |
| 02:08.24 | willwork4foo | have not got the time. |
| 02:08.38 | willwork4foo | definitely would enjoy the challenge another time, but not right now. |
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| 02:08.49 | hawking | I have kde on a laptop and a pop-up window arises sometimes saying "Display Changed: LCD On" and "Display Changed : LCD Off" it's quite annoying... first I thought the reason may be the misconfiguration of hotkeys but it even continues appearing when I don't press any keys at all... what may be the reason? |
| 02:09.13 | sunrai | a kde popup? |
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| 02:09.20 | thiago | willwork4foo: if you ever want to give it a try, come to #kde4-devel |
| 02:09.24 | wolson | how do i apply it without restarting kde? |
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| 02:09.36 | sunrai | wolson: did it work? |
| 02:09.47 | willwork4foo | thiago: I think I will save that until after I've finished this final year of uni I'm in |
| 02:09.51 | hawking | sunrai : no a pop-up that normally should appear when I press the LCD On/Off Button |
| 02:09.56 | wolson | dunno.. how do i apply it without restarting kde? |
| 02:10.06 | sunrai | wolson: you want to test it first. |
| 02:10.12 | willwork4foo | right. all traces of KDE removed from my system as far as I can tell. |
| 02:10.20 | wolson | ok and how would one do that |
| 02:10.23 | wolson | :-) |
| 02:10.30 | wolson | i promise i'll read more |
| 02:10.36 | sunrai | scroll up |
| 02:10.41 | willwork4foo | I've got the latest stable 3.5 release of kdesvn-build - |
| 02:10.46 | willwork4foo | let's have a go at this then. |
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| 02:12.07 | wolson | be right back :-) |
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| 02:13.42 | willwork4foo | thiago: I'm looking through this default .kdesvn-buildrc file.... have one or two questions |
| 02:13.44 | wolson | bad news :-( |
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| 02:13.56 | willwork4foo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:14.03 | wolson | should i have put that in /etc/X11 ? |
| 02:14.05 | willwork4foo | should that be in there? I don't think I need debug on |
| 02:14.15 | willwork4foo | I'm not debugging KDE I want to use it |
| 02:14.32 | sunrai | wolson: yeh only root can set the -config path |
| 02:14.36 | sunrai | i think. |
| 02:14.42 | wolson | ok |
| 02:14.43 | sunrai | i forget |
| 02:14.45 | wolson | hold on |
| 02:14.47 | willwork4foo | thiago: ? |
| 02:14.52 | sunrai | i told you to test it first anyhow. |
| 02:14.58 | sunrai | no one listens |
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| 02:16.25 | wolson | sorry... i didn't that time.. please don't yell at me :-) |
| 02:16.51 | sunrai | im not YELLING |
| 02:16.54 | sunrai | :) |
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| 02:17.41 | sunrai | from within X type in a terminal "X :1", alt-ctrl-backspace to exit. |
| 02:17.42 | wolson | Fatal server error: |
| 02:17.43 | wolson | Unrecognized option: -config |
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| 02:17.54 | wolson | ok hold on |
| 02:18.17 | sunrai | well if you've already put it in /etc/X11 no need to set the path :/ |
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| 02:18.38 | benjamindees | How can I add a useragent string to konqueror? |
| 02:18.41 | wolson | that looks better already |
| 02:18.55 | wolson | ok now how do i get it to work in kde? |
| 02:19.18 | sunrai | exit |
| 02:20.05 | thiago | willwork4foo: if you're not debugging, set --disable-debug |
| 02:20.17 | thiago | that's the default, so removing --enable-debug will do |
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| 02:20.58 | willwork4foo | thiago: I'll just comment it out using a # |
| 02:21.00 | wolson | exit as in reboot? :-) |
| 02:21.01 | willwork4foo | that'll work. |
| 02:21.15 | sunrai | wolson: no |
| 02:21.16 | willwork4foo | right. time to give this a go. |
| 02:21.18 | wolson | ok |
| 02:21.44 | wolson | so what exactly should i exit? |
| 02:21.45 | willwork4foo | seems to be doing it's stuff |
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| 02:21.55 | sunrai | wolson: X!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 02:22.01 | willwork4foo | thanks very much for the pointer thiago - hopefully it'll work :) |
| 02:22.03 | thiago | willwork4foo: what modules do you have listed? |
| 02:22.09 | wolson | sorry... you're yelling at me :-) hahaha |
| 02:22.10 | willwork4foo | thiago: listed? |
| 02:22.17 | willwork4foo | I used the default file |
| 02:22.24 | thiago | the kdesvn-buildrc file must have a lot of "module" lines |
| 02:22.25 | willwork4foo | I've not changed anything |
| 02:22.33 | willwork4foo | thiago: I think it does. |
| 02:22.38 | thiago | right |
| 02:22.43 | thiago | that's the extent of your build |
| 02:22.51 | willwork4foo | so - everything then |
| 02:22.55 | willwork4foo | as far as I can tell |
| 02:22.55 | wolson | ok i'm gonna reboot cause i don't know what the fuck i'm doing :-) be back in a sec |
| 02:22.56 | thiago | it may very well be larger than your previous KDE and Slackware builds |
| 02:23.17 | sunrai | ugh |
| 02:23.20 | sunrai | lol |
| 02:23.22 | wolson | :-) |
| 02:23.26 | willwork4foo | thiago: space is not something I am too worried about. this is on a 120GB drive |
| 02:23.29 | KanRINiN | Hey, what's the easiest way to transcode an video in KDE? thanks in advance |
| 02:23.32 | sunrai | nfi |
| 02:23.35 | sunrai | haha |
| 02:23.37 | thiago | willwork4foo: same here |
| 02:23.57 | thiago | willwork4foo: my KDE build is 6 GB (4 GB of sources + 2 GB of build data) plus another GB of KDE installed |
| 02:23.59 | willwork4foo | thiago: and I have 1GB of DDR400 RAM. again - not too worried about lots of stuff being loaded. |
| 02:24.15 | willwork4foo | thiago: is that how much this will generate? |
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| 02:24.32 | sunrai | that was a quick reboot :) |
| 02:24.35 | wolson | dude you are the shit! you put little sun rays into my life :-) |
| 02:24.42 | wolson | i just reboot kde |
| 02:24.51 | wolson | everything is little!! i love it!! |
| 02:25.00 | sunrai | :D |
| 02:25.03 | KanRINiN | any KDE transcoding programs? |
| 02:25.12 | wolson | now i'll try and see if i can get sound working.. hahahhaaa |
| 02:25.30 | thiago | willwork4foo: no, the sample file has less modules than my build |
| 02:25.36 | wolson | thank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank youthank you |
| 02:25.43 | thiago | willwork4foo: and also mine has debugging info, so it's larger |
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| 02:25.48 | willwork4foo | thiago: oh ok. |
| 02:25.55 | willwork4foo | so - I'm glad I turned off debugging :) |
| 02:25.55 | sunrai | yw |
| 02:26.05 | thiago | willwork4foo: but expect half a gig of KDE after installed, and something around 3 GB to build it |
| 02:26.13 | willwork4foo | thanks again for the tip on kdesvn-build. |
| 02:26.24 | willwork4foo | If it works, I don't care how much space it uses. |
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| 02:26.41 | willwork4foo | also - question - does anyone actually use the zeroconf thing in KDE? |
| 02:26.46 | willwork4foo | networking thing |
| 02:26.49 | thiago | I know one person who does |
| 02:26.54 | thiago | the person who wrote the thing :-) |
| 02:26.56 | willwork4foo | is it worth bothering with? |
| 02:27.11 | willwork4foo | why is it given pride of place in the networking folder then? |
| 02:27.15 | thiago | well... do you have other zeroconf-enabled devices in your network? Or MacOS X computers? |
| 02:27.15 | bobwhoops | Is there anyway to get konqueror to say it accepts xhtml+xml? |
| 02:27.20 | kjetilho | woohoo, dcop(1) is seriously cool. with it, I can implement amaroK's global keys in metacity :-) |
| 02:27.28 | willwork4foo | I have macos X computers |
| 02:27.29 | thiago | bobwhoops: yes, modify the source code. |
| 02:27.50 | thiago | willwork4foo: well, it'll see them and the services they publish |
| 02:27.55 | willwork4foo | oh ok |
| 02:28.02 | bobwhoops | thiago: That's unfortunate |
| 02:28.07 | yanmorin | bobwhoops: it does.. |
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| 02:28.15 | thiago | yanmorin: it accepts, it doesn't say it does. |
| 02:28.20 | willwork4foo | thiago: I'll get it working another time. |
| 02:28.48 | willwork4foo | right. it's really really late - so I'm going to bed now. |
| 02:28.51 | yanmorin | thiago: ah ok.. the Accept header field |
| 02:29.43 | willwork4foo | thanks again and goodnight |
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| 02:39.23 | benjamindees | found them, in /usr/share/services/useragentstrings |
| 02:39.37 | yanmorin | bobwhoops: inside kdelibs/kio/http_slave_defaults.h line 47, #define DEFAULT_ACCEPT_HEADER "text/html, image/jpeg, image/png, text/*, image/*, */*" |
| 02:40.02 | visik7 | ok last try |
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| 02:40.09 | visik7 | I've got some problem with autoconf and kdenetwork here it is : http://pastebin.com/495839 I've exported AUTOMAKE AUTOCONF AUTOHEADER but now I got many /usr/share/automake-1.6/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL |
| 02:40.55 | yanmorin | bobwhoops: hum, kdelibs/kio/kio/... |
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| 02:41.50 | fangorious | does konqueror have a feature similar to Firefox's "Open Bookmarks in tabs" feature |
| 02:41.57 | bobwhoops | yanmorin: Ah, thanks. You were quicker that I |
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| 02:42.47 | bobwhoops | yanmorin: Where is kdelibs? |
| 02:43.04 | SuperLag | I see where I can change the default icon for Kate, but what's the path to that file? |
| 02:43.09 | yanmorin | the source package |
| 02:43.14 | bobwhoops | yanmorin: nevermind, I found it |
| 02:43.36 | thiago | SuperLag: there are several files |
| 02:43.43 | thiago | in different themes and sizes |
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| 02:44.52 | SuperLag | thiago: I found the ones that are used for the icons once you have it open... /usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/kate/...... but I don't see the main one for the blue notebook with the pencil |
| 02:45.47 | yanmorin | fangorious: right click on a folder, then "Open Folder in Tabs" |
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| 02:46.31 | fangorious | yanmorin: ah, thanks. Is there a way to add that to the submenu showing all the tabs in that folder? |
| 02:48.03 | yanmorin | fangorious: not that I can find right now... but you can send a bug report/suggestion, or hack it and send a patch |
| 02:48.18 | fangorious | cool, thanks. |
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| 03:02.00 | SuperLag | thiago: what I'd like to do is open one in gimp and make a second icon with a red notebook, instead of blue |
| 03:03.20 | SuperLag | found it :) |
| 03:04.46 | SuperLag | Okay... no I didn't. |
| 03:04.52 | SuperLag | that's the kate.desktop file |
| 03:05.01 | thiago | it has an Icon entry, right? |
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| 03:05.06 | SuperLag | yes |
| 03:06.28 | thiago | well, /usr/share/icons/ and find it |
| 03:06.46 | thiago | the name may be prefixed by the theme shortname (cr for Crystal) and the size |
| 03:06.58 | SuperLag | I figured it'd be /usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/kate/icons/... somewhere |
| 03:07.14 | thiago | the 64x64 Crystal icon for kate is cr64-app-kate |
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| 03:09.47 | uranther | why does kopete complain about having myself as a contact yet provides me no options to fix it |
| 03:09.49 | uranther | annoying |
| 03:10.06 | SuperLag | thiago: not in /usr/share/icons/ either... |
| 03:10.47 | SuperLag | thiago: the only place I can see it is if I right-click on the panel icon, and click on the icon in the window that pops up. I can choose icons for different types of things, and it shows up in Applications |
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| 03:12.21 | mebsd | how long will my athlon 2000 768MB take to compile kde3.5 |
| 03:12.37 | thiago | 10 to 15 hours |
| 03:13.01 | mebsd | dam that's long |
| 03:13.12 | Triffid_Hunter | kdelibs took 55 mins on my 2400+ |
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| 03:13.34 | mebsd | im using this unix called netbsd |
| 03:13.34 | thiago | Triffid_Hunter: kdebase should take slightly longer and kdepim 25% longer |
| 03:13.37 | mebsd | no binary packages |
| 03:13.46 | thiago | Triffid_Hunter: the other ones should be a lot faster |
| 03:14.04 | Triffid_Hunter | thiago: i don't have kdebase.. using gentoo's split ebuilds :) |
| 03:14.18 | SuperLag | ahh it's under hicolor |
| 03:14.28 | thiago | Triffid_Hunter: with Gentoo's insane optimisations? |
| 03:14.35 | trumee | mebsd:24 hrs |
| 03:14.42 | SuperLag | thiago: hey now :) |
| 03:14.49 | rajulocal | I want to read documentation about system tray. I usually use help:/ in konqueror . What should I type after help:/ to get info about system tray? |
| 03:14.51 | SuperLag | thiago: I use Gentoo, but no insanity here. |
| 03:14.58 | Triffid_Hunter | thiago: i don't use gentoo for cflag fiddling.. its the dependency resolution that sells me on it :) |
| 03:15.05 | thiago | SuperLag: well, if you were, it would take much longer than necessary |
| 03:16.05 | SuperLag | I will say this. I think splitting up the packages *is* insanity. :) |
| 03:16.17 | SuperLag | thiago: is that what you guys are going to be doing for KDE4? |
| 03:16.20 | thiago | SuperLag: maybe, maybe not |
| 03:16.29 | SuperLag | thiago: you would say that :) |
| 03:16.31 | thiago | the distribution I use (Conectiva) once had 4000+ packages for KDE |
| 03:16.39 | SuperLag | WHOA |
| 03:16.47 | SuperLag | and now? |
| 03:16.57 | visik7 | but conectiva isn't mandrake now? |
| 03:16.58 | thiago | it was split on a per-app basis, then per-language translation and per-app per-language docs |
| 03:17.00 | visik7 | mandriva |
| 03:17.06 | visik7 | and another distro too |
| 03:17.11 | visik7 | don't remember |
| 03:17.19 | thiago | visik7: exactly. Now they've been rolled back into much fewer packages. |
| 03:17.54 | thiago | but the time they had 4000+ packages was an experiment |
| 03:18.01 | thiago | they also split the kernel in one package per module |
| 03:18.10 | SuperLag | wow |
| 03:18.13 | straw | ouch |
| 03:18.15 | SuperLag | that's just plain nuts |
| 03:18.20 | thiago | again, an experiment |
| 03:19.19 | yanmorin | they create another distribution, again an experiment ;p |
| 03:19.23 | Triffid_Hunter | now that's just taking it a bit too far.. |
| 03:19.46 | Triffid_Hunter | appariently gentoo has about 330 kde split ebuilds, though i've not counted them myself |
| 03:20.13 | SuperLag | Triffid_Hunter: that's about right. |
| 03:20.51 | SuperLag | Triffid_Hunter: I've got X.org 7.0 on here, and while there are 290 atom entries for /etc/portage/package.*, it takes me 99 packages. |
| 03:21.14 | Triffid_Hunter | how is the xorg 7? |
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| 03:28.59 | vajra | Hi! Can anyone help me with Drag 'n' Drop CD Ripping with Konqueror? |
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| 03:32.18 | mebsd | will kde be ok to run with 128MB ram? |
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| 03:44.51 | pepo_ | ariel? |
| 03:46.37 | Triffid_Hunter | mebsd: that's rather optimistic.. |
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| 03:47.22 | mebsd | Triffid_Hunter: what you mean |
| 03:48.05 | Triffid_Hunter | mebsd: it might be okish to use as long as you don't alt tab very often and have lots of swap |
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| 03:51.27 | _ariel | ey gabriel, estas?? |
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| 03:51.43 | pepo_ | sii |
| 03:51.55 | _ariel | ahh... estas como pepo |
| 03:52.06 | pepo_ | si |
| 03:52.16 | pepo_ | para que nadie me reconosca |
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| 03:52.46 | _ariel | ah... si,q secreto??!!? |
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| 03:55.19 | pepo_ | ariel estas? |
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| 03:57.00 | _ariel | si |
| 03:57.19 | pepo_ | eeeeeeeee cuanto tarda en contestar |
| 03:57.34 | _ariel | mebaje el amsn 0.95 y estoy viendo como joraca se instala |
| 03:57.50 | pepo_ | el que dice abrir con |
| 03:57.53 | pepo_ | ? |
| 03:57.59 | _ariel | tarda poco, lo q pasa es q estoy haciendo otras cosas a la vez |
| 03:58.32 | pepo_ | viste que hay uno el .bin que cuando haces clik te dice abrir con |
| 03:58.46 | pepo_ | ya se como hacerlo andar |
| 03:58.49 | _ariel | yo mebaje un rpm |
| 03:58.56 | _ariel | como?? |
| 03:59.28 | pepo_ | hace click drecho |
| 03:59.38 | pepo_ | propiedades |
| 03:59.46 | pepo_ | permisos |
| 04:00.02 | _ariel | ah... y le pones ejecutable |
| 04:00.10 | pepo_ | y selecciona "es ejecutable" |
| 04:00.27 | _ariel | cierto, ahora me acordé |
| 04:00.33 | pepo_ | aaaaaaaaa anda |
| 04:00.50 | pepo_ | pero tengo problemas |
| 04:00.57 | _ariel | q pasa? |
| 04:03.48 | pepo_ | cuando hago click en el icono que me aparece en el escritorio me dice "you can't load TKCXimage, this is now needed to run amsn. Please compile amsn first, instruction on how to compile are located in the file Install |
| 04:05.42 | _ariel | aparece un icono en el escritorio?? |
| 04:05.47 | pepo_ | si |
| 04:05.55 | _ariel | desde cuando?? |
| 04:06.11 | pepo_ | desde que lo instalo |
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| 04:06.26 | pepo_ | pero no por konsola |
| 04:07.02 | _ariel | apa... pasa q yo nunca usé un instalador gráfico |
| 04:07.26 | _ariel | se lo q es compilr, pero se hace con conola |
| 04:07.36 | pepo_ | como? |
| 04:08.17 | _ariel | sabés donde t instalo la carpeta con todos los archivos?? |
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| 04:08.55 | pepo_ | si |
| 04:09.12 | pepo_ | en gabriel/amsn |
| 04:09.15 | _ariel | donde?? |
| 04:10.07 | _ariel | bueno,fijate si adentro de esa carpeta no hay un archivo q se llama configure (pero no le hagas click) |
| 04:12.34 | _ariel | fijate si encontra ahi un archivo q se llama amsn.desktop, ese es el archivo en mi amsn q me abre el programa |
| 04:12.54 | pepo_ | no, hay uno pero dice config.tcl |
| 04:14.01 | _ariel | entonces tiene q estar el q dice amsn.desktop creo... |
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| 04:14.14 | theverant | anyone know why I cannot edit my KDE Menu? |
| 04:15.00 | theverant | I use the menu editor and save the changes but they don't take |
| 04:15.06 | theverant | it's very agrivating |
| 04:16.05 | _ariel | che, gabriel, sabes comoeditar elmenu de kde porque aca elmuchacho nos pregunta |
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| 04:17.09 | pepo_ | pero en ingles!!!! |
| 04:17.35 | _ariel | bueno... si no sabe castellano q se la banque!!!! |
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| 04:18.27 | pepo_ | no se ni en castellano ni en ingles |
| 04:20.15 | _ariel | yo tampoco |
| 04:20.49 | _ariel | che.. t fijaste si no está el archivo amsn.desktop |
| 04:21.14 | pepo_ | como va a estar si es un archivo? |
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| 04:22.41 | _ariel | dentro de la carpeta esa en /gabriel/amsn q me dijiste |
| 04:24.08 | pepo_ | si el archivo amsn.desktop esta pero hago clicj y me dice kde init no pudo lanzar amsn |
| 04:24.27 | pepo_ | could not find amsn executable |
| 04:26.07 | _ariel | entra a esta pagina: http://www.compunauta.com/forums/linux/linuxicq/amsn.html |
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| 04:26.57 | RoeyG_inDaHouse | hello |
| 04:26.59 | RoeyG_inDaHouse | anyone here? |
| 04:27.07 | RoeyG_inDaHouse | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105145, http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119721, http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119722 |
| 04:28.29 | pepo_ | hi |
| 04:28.51 | _ariel | hi |
| 04:29.02 | m_tadeu | :P |
| 04:30.29 | pepo_ | hi ariel |
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| 04:31.19 | pepo_ | yuo know how can I do for install amsn in mi computer? |
| 04:33.02 | m_tadeu | RoeyG_inDaHouse: you know...the first 2 report to invalid bugs |
| 04:34.24 | straw | m_tadeu: it's the commas at the end |
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| 04:34.40 | spike | hi there |
| 04:34.46 | spike | running kubuntu, kde 3.4 |
| 04:34.56 | spike | I've installed some fonts, and they're listed under xfontsel |
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| 04:35.04 | spike | but I cannot pick them up as Konsole font |
| 04:35.05 | con | hi all |
| 04:35.05 | spike | how so? |
| 04:36.20 | con | I've got a funky problem that seems to have occured as a result of not shutting down cleanly. Jpeg context is stuffed - the file associations show jpeg settings ok, jpeg files are seen as jpegs, but none of the applications recognise their presence or work with them. See this url for a picture of the failure: http://ck.kolivas.org/pictures/wtf.png |
| 04:36.24 | RoeyG_inDaHouse | m_tadeu: how so |
| 04:37.20 | con | I cant even manually open jpeg files in kuickshow; it just doesn't think they exist |
| 04:38.03 | con | wonder if anyone has any useful ideas |
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| 04:39.44 | m_tadeu | RoeyG_inDaHouse: there are unconfirmed bugs in khtml, for sure....please feel free to vote for them |
| 04:41.11 | con | jpeg anyone? |
| 04:41.18 | con | sigh |
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| 04:42.55 | m_tadeu | con: can you describe what the problem is? |
| 04:43.20 | con | sure |
| 04:43.23 | LongNam | hi all, does anyone know how to setup autologin as root in slackware ??? many thanks |
| 04:43.24 | RoeyG_inDaHouse | m_tadeu: I don't understand... you said that the bug I reported is invalid.. how is that so?? |
| 04:43.25 | con | see this picture http://ck.kolivas.org/pictures/wtf.png |
| 04:43.31 | RoeyG_inDaHouse | con |
| 04:43.35 | RoeyG_inDaHouse | you're Con Kolivas? |
| 04:43.38 | con | you'll see the associattions for jpeg are intact |
| 04:43.40 | con | RoeyG_inDaHouse yes |
| 04:43.42 | RoeyG_inDaHouse | of patchset fame? |
| 04:43.43 | pepo_ | ariel? |
| 04:43.44 | con | yes |
| 04:43.49 | RoeyG_inDaHouse | oh my god what are you doing in this chan of all places? |
| 04:43.55 | RoeyG_inDaHouse | btw thankyou for your work |
| 04:44.00 | con | m_tadeu however none of the jpeg associations seem to work |
| 04:44.09 | con | RoeyG_inDaHouse your welcome; I need kde help of course :) |
| 04:44.12 | con | you're |
| 04:44.19 | RoeyG_inDaHouse | ah! cool |
| 04:44.21 | RoeyG_inDaHouse | nick Roey |
| 04:44.25 | RoeyG_inDaHouse | doh |
| 04:44.34 | con | m_tadeu in that picture you'll see all the correct apps are associated with jpeg |
| 04:44.48 | con | however kuickshow doesnt even _show_ jpeg files that exist |
| 04:44.54 | con | and will not open them |
| 04:44.55 | m_tadeu | RoeyG_inDaHouse: the bug is not invalid...is just unconfirmed yet...the bugs go through several stages...the developers just didn't confimed the bug yet |
| 04:45.13 | con | and if I right click on the jpeg files (which now have no icon or preview) none of the file associations are showing up |
| 04:45.21 | con | this happens on every user login and even a fresh new one |
| 04:45.35 | con | I even reinstalled kde to try and fix it to no avail |
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| 04:46.15 | con | this is rather painful breakage btw |
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| 04:47.46 | m_tadeu | con: can you type in the console something like "kuickshow xxxxxxx.jpg"? |
| 04:48.06 | con | yes it just comes up with the file dialog as though I called a jpeg file that didnt exist |
| 04:48.38 | con | you can see that kuickshow doesnt even show the jpeg files that exist |
| 04:49.19 | con | right clicking on a jpeg and selecting configure shows that kde seems to recognise it as jpeg, but none of the file associations set from the control centre are even showing up |
| 04:50.11 | con | oh and yes this is impressive breakage; I manage to break things better than anyone I know |
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| 04:50.21 | straw | works fine here... |
| 04:50.35 | con | straw it works fine everywhere; I broke it yesterday somehow |
| 04:50.51 | straw | distro packages or a compile? |
| 04:50.55 | con | compile |
| 04:51.01 | con | it was working fine for a long time now btw |
| 04:51.12 | Roey | m_tadeu: no one confirms my bug posts :( |
| 04:51.16 | con | this is the result of a hard reboot probably at an inopportune time |
| 04:51.33 | Roey | m_tadeu: the first one I posted; it's been sitting unconfirmed for more than six months. |
| 04:52.32 | straw | con: is your build tree still intact? |
| 04:52.42 | con | yes and I reinstalled it |
| 04:52.52 | con | that didnt fix it |
| 04:53.16 | m_tadeu | Roey: lol some of mine too....I guess it has to be something about voting...see, they have lots of work, so they pick the most "anoying" bugs to solve |
| 04:53.33 | straw | con: how odd... |
| 04:53.51 | con | you have no idea... |
| 04:53.52 | Novell | con: it's linked to libjpeg, right ? |
| 04:54.04 | con | yes libjpeg seems intact afaict |
| 04:54.11 | con | I guess I can reinstall that too |
| 04:54.28 | Roey | ok |
| 04:54.31 | Roey | m_tadeu: ok |
| 04:54.40 | Roey | m_tadeu: I'm not a developer; can I still vote? |
| 04:55.16 | con | Novell no change |
| 04:55.23 | Roey | oh? |
| 04:55.26 | con | but that's not surprising since this seems a kde specific - assocation problem |
| 04:55.36 | con | and jpeg works elsewhere |
| 04:55.50 | m_tadeu | Roey: sure....just register and vote.... |
| 04:55.55 | con | I can actually load a jpeg in kview if I load it directly, but I cannot load another jpeg from running kview |
| 04:57.01 | straw | con: tried cleaning kdegraphics and rebuilding and installing? |
| 04:57.15 | con | why sould I rebuild it? it worked yesterday |
| 04:57.46 | con | this is happening on a different level than kdegraphics itself afaict |
| 04:58.00 | Novell | weird |
| 04:58.01 | con | the fact that mime types are blown suggests its not kdegraphics at all |
| 04:58.15 | con | Novell yeah :( I can break things better than most |
| 04:58.47 | Roey | m_tadeu: okthanks |
| 04:58.50 | straw | "...cannot load another jpeg from running kview" maybe i misundestood you |
| 04:59.14 | con | straw if I right click on a jpeg and start it with kview the jpeg comes up. Once kview is running I cannot load another jpeg from the file dialog |
| 04:59.43 | con | it's like kde is not recognising any jpegs basically |
| 04:59.59 | Roey | con: where are you from btw |
| 05:00.07 | con | melbourne, .au |
| 05:00.15 | Roey | con: ohhh ok I thoguht Greek for some reason |
| 05:00.21 | con | greek heritage |
| 05:00.30 | m_tadeu | Roey: also take a look at the wish list....manage your votes wizely :) |
| 05:00.31 | Roey | oh, ok |
| 05:00.48 | straw | ok, so it seems like kdebase is hosed |
| 05:00.50 | Roey | m_tadeu: how often are my votes replenished? |
| 05:00.56 | con | straw reinstalled that too |
| 05:01.00 | con | I reinstalled the whole of kde |
| 05:01.14 | straw | i know, i know :) |
| 05:01.30 | m_tadeu | Roey: what do you mean? |
| 05:01.35 | con | sorry it gets frustrating and I'm not sure the magnitude of fsckage is adequately conveyed |
| 05:01.51 | Roey | m_tadeu: like, what variables control how many votes I can cast, and how often I can cast them? |
| 05:03.57 | m_tadeu | Roey: I think you have 100 votes, and you can use as many as 20 votes for each item. or you can use 1 vote for 100 items :) |
| 05:04.06 | con | sigh |
| 05:04.16 | con | looks like I need to fdisk this pc |
| 05:04.36 | con | feels like windows all over again :P |
| 05:04.41 | straw | noooo |
| 05:05.09 | con | got any other suggestions then? |
| 05:05.29 | straw | jeez, install a distro before you become Bill's bitch again ;) |
| 05:05.37 | con | that wasn't what I was implying |
| 05:05.46 | con | I said this install feels like windows with gradual corruption |
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| 05:05.51 | con | I haven't used windows in 6 years |
| 05:05.58 | straw | Con: i'd redo the build |
| 05:06.09 | con | the whole of kde? |
| 05:06.15 | _ariel | gabrielestas?? |
| 05:06.18 | Novell | is it only jpg's ? |
| 05:06.20 | con | yes |
| 05:06.28 | _ariel | gabriel estas?? |
| 05:06.29 | con | the only one I've noticed so far |
| 05:06.45 | con | the whole rebuild it from scratch thing smells wrong to me |
| 05:06.48 | straw | con: i'd try kdebase first |
| 05:06.55 | con | it does not make sense to rebuild it |
| 05:07.05 | con | explain how that's supposed to fix this? |
| 05:07.15 | con | if I rebuild it I'll end up with the same binaries |
| 05:07.39 | con | none of my libraries have changed since I built kde |
| 05:07.46 | con | all the devel files are the same |
| 05:08.02 | straw | i know, but finding what's broke will take longer |
| 05:08.17 | con | wrong, I think rebuilding and reinstalling will give me no fix |
| 05:08.23 | Novell | con: have you tried removing all your config ? |
| 05:08.29 | Novell | or moving them away |
| 05:08.31 | con | I am suspecting one file somewhere hiding away that has wrong file permissions |
| 05:08.35 | con | Novell I have a new user login |
| 05:08.37 | con | no change |
| 05:08.41 | Novell | ok |
| 05:09.07 | con | and reinstalling kde doesnt seem to be fixing said broken file permissions |
| 05:09.19 | con | so rebuilding will just reproduce the reinstall situation |
| 05:09.39 | straw | i doubt it |
| 05:09.58 | con | :| |
| 05:10.02 | straw | heheh |
| 05:10.46 | con | what I'm looking for is if anyone knows where these global mime type settings are held |
| 05:10.47 | straw | since you've had it working, broke it, re-installed, still broken |
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| 05:11.08 | con | straw lets pretend I did rebuild it ok |
| 05:11.14 | straw | all that's left is the build tree |
| 05:12.30 | straw | so whatever's hosed is there, getting stuffed back in your prefix each time you make install |
| 05:12.46 | straw | that's my theory :) |
| 05:13.27 | con | so you think that somehow the part of my _installed_ kde that is corrupt magically damaged the identical part of my _built_ kde tree |
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| 05:14.05 | araizen | how do I change the background colors that konq displays in detailed list view while in file browsing mode? |
| 05:14.40 | straw | con: no... |
| 05:14.50 | con | that's what you're telling me |
| 05:15.04 | con | heh |
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| 05:15.39 | con | oh well guess I have to reinstall a whole distro |
| 05:15.52 | con | thanks for trying guys |
| 05:15.53 | Novell | no idea if some corruption in these files can have such an effect but, kde-prefix/share/mimelnk/image/ |
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| 05:17.53 | blktiger | arch linux 0.7.1 kde 3.5.0 print to pdf is not working for me... any ideas? |
| 05:18.45 | Novell | con: there's also kde-prefix/share/mimelnk/magic |
| 05:18.53 | con | mhm |
| 05:19.29 | con | permissions appear ok in that but could be corrupted somehow perhaps |
| 05:20.16 | con | it is possible that reinstalling it refuses to overwrite something like that |
| 05:20.32 | con | I'll see if moving that directory and then reinstalling helps |
| 05:20.34 | con | thanks bbiab |
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| 05:23.23 | Novell | con: http://www.nabble.com/Re:-kde-kde-3.5-and-recognising-jpg's-t702149.html |
| 05:23.28 | Novell | con: http://www.nabble.com/Re:-kde-3.5-and-recognising-jpg's-p1857338.html |
| 05:23.28 | con | bingo! |
| 05:23.49 | con | Novell removing /usr/share/mimelnk and letting the kde binaries reinstall there fixed it |
| 05:23.54 | con | champion |
| 05:23.55 | Novell | ok =) |
| 05:23.59 | con | I owe you one |
| 05:24.04 | con | here, have a free kernel patch |
| 05:24.07 | con | :P |
| 05:24.08 | Novell | fix me some kernel bugs =) |
| 05:24.14 | Novell | whatever ones you find =P |
| 05:24.19 | con | will do :D |
| 05:24.26 | con | this is glorious |
| 05:24.45 | straw | heh |
| 05:25.49 | con | I think I might as well idle here now since I'm here |
| 05:26.01 | con | thanks again and cheers |
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| 05:33.54 | Roey | heh |
| 05:34.01 | Roey | what a funny conversation you guys had |
| 05:35.11 | nickoli | is there any point to setting up 3.5 coming from 3.4.2, cause trying to decide if i should up mine to 3.5 |
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| 05:45.35 | araizen | okay, just a minute ago I moved something in konq using the 'move to' context menu, and now the 'move to' and 'copy to' context menus have disappeared. I checked in kcontrol and the option to show them is enabled. anyone know what happened? |
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| 05:55.55 | AssociateX | Hello people |
| 05:56.19 | vajra | i'm new to linux - when i load a mixed cd (audio&data) i can't find a way of reading the data. anyone know why? |
| 05:57.09 | AssociateX | I have a little suggestion. In konqueror you should be able to right click and sort icons by type, date, and whatever criteria is normal for icon sorting |
| 05:57.26 | AssociateX | vajra, mount it? |
| 05:57.33 | AssociateX | have you tried that? |
| 05:57.59 | AssociateX | do you have a cd mount point? |
| 05:58.13 | AssociateX | like /mnt/cdrom or something like that? |
| 05:58.18 | AssociateX | -? |
| 05:58.27 | AssociateX | s/?/. |
| 05:59.22 | vajra | i imagine it must be mounted because kaudio creator recognises it |
| 06:00.19 | vajra | there is nothing in the /mnt directory at all |
| 06:01.11 | vajra | nor is there anything in media:/ where both audio & data cds normally appear |
| 06:02.17 | vajra | AssociateX: have i understood that right? |
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| 06:03.31 | vajra | can anyone else suggest anything? |
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| 06:09.46 | vajra | i'm new to linux - when i load a mixed cd (audio&data) i can't find a way of reading the data. anyone know why? |
| 06:10.03 | AssociateX | vajra, sorry was else where, but audio does not get mounted |
| 06:10.14 | AssociateX | you have to mount for data |
| 06:10.28 | vajra | so where do is find the data or how do i mount? |
| 06:10.43 | AssociateX | ls /mnt and tell me what is in there |
| 06:10.50 | AssociateX | ls /mnt |
| 06:10.52 | vajra | nothing |
| 06:10.55 | AssociateX | ok |
| 06:11.03 | macisaac | or better, just type mount |
| 06:11.13 | AssociateX | that is better |
| 06:11.16 | AssociateX | mount |
| 06:11.22 | AssociateX | what does it say.... |
| 06:11.48 | vajra | where in a terminal? |
| 06:11.53 | AssociateX | ah, that doesn't really matter, he's new so he has no auto mount, the data is NOT mounted |
| 06:12.03 | AssociateX | yeah, in the terminal |
| 06:12.22 | vajra | i get... |
| 06:12.33 | AssociateX | don't flood |
| 06:13.13 | Novell | vajra: what distribution are you using ? |
| 06:13.23 | vajra | open suse 10 |
| 06:14.32 | vajra | in /dev i find cdrom -> hdc |
| 06:14.48 | vajra | but it can't change into it as a directory |
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| 06:15.43 | Novell | vajra: /dev only hold device files |
| 06:16.14 | vajra | i really don'r know my way round linux... the files are so different from windows |
| 06:16.38 | Novell | iirc, suse have automount setup by default ? |
| 06:16.53 | vajra | the mount comand just seems to give a lsit of devices |
| 06:17.20 | macisaac | look for your cdrom or dvd drive in there |
| 06:17.44 | Novell | vajra: type: mount /media/cdrom |
| 06:17.54 | macisaac | you might be able to see what your cdrom is set to mount to by looking at /etc/fstab |
| 06:17.55 | vajra | like i said in in /dev i find cdrom->hdc but i don't know what that means |
| 06:18.06 | macisaac | you don't care about /dev right now |
| 06:18.20 | Novell | vajra: cdrom is a symbolic link to hdc (like an alias) |
| 06:18.51 | Novell | vajra: after the mount, try ls /media/cdrom |
| 06:19.31 | Novell | or you might just have to check whatever is in /media |
| 06:19.38 | vajra | no /etc/fstab directory |
| 06:20.27 | vajra | in media i have dvdram, which is the same device |
| 06:20.35 | useruser | anyone knowledgable about k3b here? |
| 06:20.37 | Novell | ok |
| 06:20.42 | useruser | it says Incorrectly encoded string ( –ˆóÿ¿þ‹@@ –@ôÿ¿ ..0) encountered. |
| 06:20.47 | Novell | vajra: try: mount /media/dvdram |
| 06:20.48 | vajra | but there is nothing in it |
| 06:20.53 | useruser | and it doesn't burn |
| 06:20.55 | Novell | then look in it again |
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| 06:21.06 | useruser | and it doesn't tell me which file to look at :-( |
| 06:21.11 | useruser | i'm trying to burn a dvd |
| 06:21.55 | useruser | it mentions using convmv to fix things, but i don't see how if i don't know which file |
| 06:21.56 | vajra | i mounted it but there is still nothing apparently in it |
| 06:22.15 | Novell | vajra: and mount didn't report any error ? |
| 06:22.33 | vajra | ok now i can see the data in konqueror |
| 06:22.46 | vajra | how can i automount in the future then? |
| 06:22.49 | Novell | forgot to refresh eh ? =) |
| 06:23.49 | vajra | funny i can only see the files in konqueror & not by doin dir in the terminal |
| 06:24.11 | Novell | did you change to the correct dir first ? |
| 06:24.16 | Novell | cd /media/dvdram |
| 06:24.19 | Novell | ls |
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| 06:24.34 | vajra | how can i automount... to do what i just did i had to be root & everything. |
| 06:25.30 | Novell | might have better luck in some SuSE channel |
| 06:25.37 | vajra | yes i am in /media/dvdram when i do dir |
| 06:25.40 | Novell | I'm off to bed! |
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| 06:28.22 | macisaac | vajra: like Novell said, go to #suse for that question |
| 06:29.00 | vajra | well anyway now i know why windows is so successfull! |
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| 06:30.20 | macisaac | ouch, not the best thing to say in a *nix channel dude |
| 06:31.41 | vajra | i'm so new to all this i don't even know what a *nix is! but i don't think i'm doing to bad ... got mp3 & dvd working despite verything being against it! |
| 06:32.33 | macisaac | *nix meaning unix-like systems in general |
| 06:33.24 | vajra | ok |
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| 06:34.34 | macisaac | just keep at it, the learning curve can appear steep when you've only used windows, particularly if you've used windows as a 'poweruser' or something and have been conditioned to think in a certain way. once past that though, you'll find there's just so much more that you _can_ do in *nix, that in a closed system is just not possible |
| 06:35.21 | macisaac | at least not as possible that is :-) |
| 06:36.00 | vajra | i like the feel of it all, but i have been very disapointed with the speed of some things |
| 06:36.24 | vajra | writing to an external hard drive eg |
| 06:36.38 | macisaac | I don't want to start a distro war (got a suse laptop right next to me right now) but you're not exactly using a distro known for being zippy |
| 06:37.13 | vajra | it was dificult to know where to start |
| 06:37.32 | macisaac | suse's a fine place to start. just not my personal cup of tea overall. |
| 06:38.05 | vajra | why should it be slow copying files to a usb disk? |
| 06:38.25 | macisaac | that's something I haven't done, so I can't say. |
| 06:38.50 | vajra | oh wel thanks 4 your help... i ought to be in bed anyway! |
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| 06:39.47 | macisaac | ok, just remember, keep having fun with it. (plus, for suse specific questions, it's best to ask there...) |
| 06:40.37 | vajra | i still can't work out what is to do with suse or with kde |
| 06:40.49 | rstallmin | hi all iam having a problem with a bug for cdrecord using k3b "since kernel version 2.6.8 cdrecord cannot user SCSI transport when running suid root anymore" anyone know of a recent fix? |
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| 06:42.04 | juanzhewudi | hello |
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| 06:42.32 | juanzhewudi | 有没ä¸å›½çš„ |
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| 06:45.04 | juanzhewudi | baby |
| 06:45.49 | mobtek | hmm kontact has gotten a lot better |
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| 06:46.00 | mobtek | mail news and addresses all on the one place |
| 06:46.01 | mobtek | noice |
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| 06:46.30 | macisaac | rstallmin: i wish someone would write a replacement for cdrecord. schilling seems to have it in for 2.6 linux or something |
| 06:47.39 | mobtek | heh k3b moite |
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| 06:54.08 | AssociateX | is gphoto2 gnome? |
| 06:54.15 | macisaac | no |
| 06:54.33 | macisaac | you'll need it if you want to compile digikam for instance |
| 06:55.00 | AssociateX | doesn't matter, I can only get my camera to work as root, gphoto2 and camera:/ only work as root |
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| 07:07.05 | scx | hello there ! |
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| 07:08.09 | scx | I want to change the qonqui image that appers when I click Logout, someone you knows where that immage is ? |
| 07:08.20 | scx | I'm on SuSE |
| 07:09.12 | juanzhewudi | so am I |
| 07:10.03 | macisaac | you don't like the cute little dragon? :-) |
| 07:10.34 | scx | I prefer my Half Life Image |
| 07:10.52 | scx | the dragon is to childy for my likes |
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| 07:12.08 | DeadS0ul | hello |
| 07:13.01 | scx | requisqiate in pace DeadS0ul |
| 07:13.30 | DeadS0ul | eh? |
| 07:14.01 | scx | requisqiate in pace = R.I.P. DeadS0ul |
| 07:14.12 | DeadS0ul | ah .... |
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| 07:15.59 | macisaac | scx: I like the dragon, but now you've got me curious... most if not all kdebase images are in /usr/share/icons /usr/share/wallpapers as far as I know, trying to find what I may be overlooking here... |
| 07:17.52 | scx | I found an image in /opt/kde3/share/apps/SOMETHING/backroud.png that I think is the defauld image |
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| 07:18.15 | scx | but maybe in SuSE is diferent |
| 07:20.35 | macisaac | ah, /usr/local/share/apps/ on mine, but that's good to know |
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| 07:56.49 | scx | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:57.03 | scx | someone knows where is it ? |
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| 08:13.24 | scx | cri cri |
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| 08:16.19 | scx | cri cri |
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| 08:30.19 | df00z | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119668 |
| 08:30.24 | df00z | Can anyone verify/vote for this? |
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| 08:32.40 | adamt | fromz: it's only doing that with msn messenger 7.5 |
| 08:33.12 | adamt | fromz: apparently the bug is fixed, but the fix makes other parts of kopete crash.. so.. I have no idea about when it will be fixed |
| 08:33.26 | fromz | hah, ok :) |
| 08:33.32 | adamt | only thing you can do is to ask your friends to use msn messenger 7.0 instead |
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| 08:33.52 | adamt | i'm quite annoyed by the bug too |
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| 09:57.02 | tuxi | hi |
| 09:57.23 | tuxi | is it possible to move an window via script? |
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| 10:07.18 | sredna | tuxi: Using dcop, yes |
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| 10:09.10 | Kano | hi |
| 10:09.35 | Kano | what can be the problem when no hd icons are shown in 3.5. but they existed in 3.4.3? |
| 10:10.15 | padde | guys, grab that album, it's wonderful |
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| 10:10.32 | macisaac | anyone know what's supposed to provide libartsbackend.la? |
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| 10:12.15 | sredna | Kano: Check the configuration of the media storage. If you are using HAL, you probably need to update that as well as DBUS. Good luck. |
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| 10:12.35 | Bille | macisaac: do you mean libartscbackend.la (with an extra 'c')? |
| 10:12.42 | macisaac | you'd think (but I'm not using rpms here) xine keeps segfaulting on me, and I noticed that on strace it's looking for the above mentioned library. |
| 10:13.03 | Kano | sredna: i updated hal, dbus and pmount |
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| 10:13.19 | sredna | Kano: Pmount is not required anymore afaik |
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| 10:13.25 | Kano | really |
| 10:13.29 | Kano | hmm |
| 10:13.31 | macisaac | hrm... now it segfaulted, without looking for it.... sigh |
| 10:13.45 | sredna | Kano: But all of that, including the kde media thingy, is at most in alpha state |
| 10:13.56 | sredna | It's simply not relyable |
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| 10:14.59 | Kano | just tested, it does not work without pmount for usb devices |
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| 10:17.12 | Kano | sredna: tested usb devices without pmount -> no got |
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| 10:18.18 | sredna | Kano: As I said, it's not really relyable. Here usb devices works fine without pmount, and most people says so. My main problem is that it can't seem to find my cd devices. |
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| 10:19.20 | Kano | funnyly cd devices are found here.. |
| 10:19.49 | Kano | but no mounted or umounted hd partitions |
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| 10:46.49 | luother | where can i change the text color of the K-menu? |
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| 10:49.06 | sredna | luother: Edit your color scheme |
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| 11:22.55 | jarkko | hello |
| 11:23.31 | jarkko | is here any one who can help me whit suse 10.0? |
| 11:23.39 | tstaerk | yes |
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| 11:24.02 | tstaerk | but it's a good idea to just ask your question. |
| 11:24.32 | jarkko | grub is not working i must start suse from install cd |
| 11:24.49 | Bille | jarkko: tried #suse already? |
| 11:24.56 | jarkko | and sounds will not work |
| 11:25.34 | tstaerk | jarkko, Bille is right. |
| 11:26.24 | jarkko | yes but i cant find answer |
| 11:26.41 | jarkko | i am just novice whit linux |
| 11:26.52 | thechris | jarkko: grub is not working? any specific error? |
| 11:27.30 | tstaerk | jarkko, does yast2 sound show you a sound card ? |
| 11:27.37 | jarkko | yes error:22 and others |
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| 11:29.52 | thechris | jarkko: is suse installed on the primary disk? |
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| 11:32.21 | Klaidas | hello. I have recently upgraded to KDE 3.5 . I see the design changes, ,my terminal say it's KDE 3.5 too ([root@3aukstas klaidas]# kde-config --version | grep KDE |
| 11:32.21 | Klaidas | KDE: 3.5.0 |
| 11:32.21 | Klaidas | [root@3aukstas klaidas]# |
| 11:32.21 | Klaidas | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:33.10 | PhilRod | do you still have 3.4 installed? |
| 11:33.40 | Klaidas | i have removed it before installing KDE 3.5. Maybe I didn't revome something? |
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| 11:34.35 | thechris | kde usually has seperate directories for each version. it may be possible the versions are not updated. |
| 11:34.44 | PhilRod | open a kde app, go to help->about kde. What version does it say? |
| 11:35.00 | sredna | thechris: ?! On some distros you mean... |
| 11:35.04 | PhilRod | thechris: well, that depends on distro. Klaidas, what distro are you using? |
| 11:35.20 | sredna | Maybe the splash and k menu pics are stored in ~/.kde? |
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| 11:35.33 | Klaidas | I'm using mandriva 2006. wait, i'll see what the application says |
| 11:35.45 | sredna | You could try with a new user, or try renaming ~/.kde |
| 11:36.42 | Klaidas | hmm, it says it's KDE release 3.5.0 |
| 11:37.40 | PhilRod | good idea sredna |
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| 11:56.06 | daniel08154711 | Hi! |
| 11:57.16 | daniel08154711 | I have a little problem using KDEs removable device mounting feature |
| 11:57.51 | daniel08154711 | it opens a konqueror with "media:/sda1" for example |
| 11:58.26 | daniel08154711 | but when i open a file in this window it is first copied to tmp and then opend |
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| 11:59.17 | willwork4foo | is there a problem with the kde svn server? |
| 11:59.26 | daniel08154711 | i use a USB-disk drive with Movies an other data. so if i wont to watch a film it is first copied to tmp. But why? |
| 12:00.55 | CVirus | oGALAXYo: are you there ? |
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| 12:01.32 | daniel08154711 | cann i switch this copy to tmp off anywhere? |
| 12:03.52 | PhilRod | willwork4foo: don't think so, I just checked out arts |
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| 12:04.31 | oGALAXYo | CVirus: yes |
| 12:04.33 | willwork4foo | PhilRod: I've tried to use kdesvn-build now three times. each time, it managed to download the first few packages and then it starts getting connection errors and doesn't manage to get anything else. |
| 12:04.35 | oGALAXYo | CVirus: but i am a bit busy |
| 12:04.45 | CVirus | oGALAXYo: did you write this http://www.eglug.org/node/1814 ? |
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| 12:05.11 | willwork4foo | I've just decided that this install of Linux I've got on here is so buggered that I'm going to wipe and reinstall. |
| 12:05.18 | PhilRod | willwork4foo: maybe anonsvn is down |
| 12:05.20 | Max_befr | Hi all |
| 12:05.38 | willwork4foo | PhilRod: I dunno - I managed to download the first few packages - arts, kdelibs, etc |
| 12:05.42 | willwork4foo | but then it just dies |
| 12:06.01 | FuzzyTheBear | always at the same place ? |
| 12:06.06 | willwork4foo | no. |
| 12:06.21 | Max_befr | I need some help. I just bought a external dvd writer (usb). I can mount it, read it. But k3b doesn't recognize it (Using slackware 10.1, kernel 2.6.10) |
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| 12:06.33 | willwork4foo | seems to be fairly early on, but it seems to fail to download anything once it fails to download a package |
| 12:06.49 | oGALAXYo | CVirus: i wrote the text on novell's page (when they announced transition from kde to gnome on suse) but i didnt post it on above page.. someone must obviously have cut&paste it there. |
| 12:07.27 | CVirus | oGALAXYo: he even didnt say that he has copied it |
| 12:07.34 | oGALAXYo | CVirus: not to speak that i was writing job applications for the past hours. |
| 12:07.34 | willwork4foo | PhilRod: is anonsvn down? |
| 12:07.37 | oGALAXYo | CVirus: yeah and ? |
| 12:08.06 | CVirus | oGALAXYo: and I'll post a comment saying that this article is a rip off from your article |
| 12:08.37 | oGALAXYo | CVirus: i am not responsible if someone cut&paste other peoples comment around.. i mean the sysadmin can verify the IP of that guy and mine (you know mine if you whois me) and compare. |
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| 12:11.32 | CVirus | oGALAXYo: will you please link me to your original article .. cant find it |
| 12:11.53 | oGALAXYo | CVirus: yeah searching it myself.. novell seem to have changed urls. |
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| 12:12.41 | CVirus | its damn pretty cheap to copy people's words and claim that they are yours .. this guy is really cheap |
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| 12:15.45 | oGALAXYo | CVirus: http://www.novell.com/prblogs/index.php?title=kde_and_gnome&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 |
| 12:15.49 | oGALAXYo | CVirus: comment #30 and #31 |
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| 12:15.54 | oGALAXYo | initially it was 2 comments |
| 12:16.04 | CVirus | oGALAXYo: Thank you very much |
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| 12:19.08 | mariux | Is there a konqueror plugin to block flash-embeds? like this one http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ |
| 12:20.47 | PhilRod | mariux: you could just disable flash in konq settings |
| 12:21.02 | PhilRod | well, make sure that konq can't find the plugin by removing directories |
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| 12:21.46 | mariux | well, in some cases i actually want flash... |
| 12:22.28 | mariux | and that plugin i mentioned is a nice middle road |
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| 12:23.49 | spiral | hello |
| 12:24.13 | spiral | could anyone help me in trying to build kdelibs out of X11 in macos tiger ? |
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| 12:26.29 | FuzzyTheBear | begs for a question .. are there extensions in Konqueror ? /me having a look .. |
| 12:27.16 | FuzzyTheBear | just found that it has .. yet another feature i hadnt time to know about :)) |
| 12:27.26 | CVirus | :-) |
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| 12:28.44 | mariux | so, where can i find a good list to import into adblock? |
| 12:29.45 | spiral | mariux: I've got one that I could copy if you want, it is regexp based & quite short so |
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| 12:36.25 | mariux | that would be great |
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| 12:40.14 | spiral | mariux: all right, so I catch my firefox... |
| 12:40.57 | mariux | what? |
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| 12:44.07 | mariux | im not registered so i cant talk in msg, just dcc me the file :) |
| 12:45.00 | spiral | mariux: I can't dcc files from there, I don't have access to the router's conf... but you did receive the message in the private, even if you aren't registered, no ? |
| 12:46.14 | mariux | dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface popupExecuteCommand() |
| 12:46.16 | mariux | oops |
| 12:46.18 | mariux | [14:41] <spiral> [Adblock] |
| 12:46.51 | spiral | mariux: you didn't recieve anything else ? |
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| 12:47.35 | mariux | no :) |
| 12:47.50 | mariux | amazing how so simple tasks turn out that hard to do :P |
| 12:47.55 | spiral | oh thats it |
| 12:48.45 | spiral | mariux: here they are, now |
| 12:49.08 | FuzzyTheBear | mariux .. guy on another channel .. try to send him a file . everytime i tried to send him a file his client segfaulted and bye bye he went :D |
| 12:49.10 | mariux | thanks |
| 12:49.18 | mariux | hehe :) |
| 12:49.56 | FuzzyTheBear | no need to have ops for kick .. just send him a file ; ) |
| 12:50.02 | FuzzyTheBear | great stuff |
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| 12:55.55 | davidhouse | hey, is there any way to configure knotify to use xine instead of arts as the audio backend? |
| 12:56.41 | PhilRod | tell it to use a command to play sounds |
| 12:56.47 | PhilRod | there's a config option there somewhere |
| 12:56.49 | spiral | davidhouse: kcontrol > sound > system notification > advanced |
| 12:57.28 | davidhouse | i noticed there was an 'use an external player' option in the advanced sounds |
| 12:57.38 | davidhouse | should i choose xmms or something there? |
| 12:57.52 | davidhouse | or can it be played directly |
| 13:00.07 | PhilRod | you probably want a non-gui player |
| 13:00.12 | PhilRod | !out |
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| 13:01.24 | spiral | davidhouse: alsaplayer almost does the trick |
| 13:01.30 | oGALAXYo | CVirus: ping |
| 13:01.39 | davidhouse | okay, thanks. |
| 13:01.42 | CVirus | here |
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| 13:01.52 | CVirus | oGALAXYo: pong |
| 13:01.55 | davidhouse | i'm not sure it'll work anyway as my xine doesn't like more than one thing playing at once |
| 13:02.09 | oGALAXYo | CVirus: i keep track of the link you posted half an hour ago... i already told you here that i am not responsible for the stuff that someone copied there.. so why do you reply that irrationally there. |
| 13:02.11 | davidhouse | so if knotify tried to fire off a sound whilst i had some music playing in amarok... |
| 13:02.20 | davidhouse | i guess i should just fix my arts :) |
| 13:03.03 | CVirus | oGALAXYo: I'm just trying to drag him to say that he is a gnome developer ... at that time I'll see what I can do with him .. I'll contact the moderators and the article will be unpublished |
| 13:03.30 | spiral | davidhouse: do you have dmix working with your alsa ? |
| 13:03.48 | davidhouse | i'm not sure... |
| 13:04.16 | davidhouse | what does dmix do? |
| 13:04.38 | oGALAXYo | CVirus: i told you that my real comment was written on the novell page (url above) and that someone copied my writing from the novell site there (as you informed me). the correct answer to the guy there would be a global information letting everyone know that this is a copied text from the novell page, that he is not the guy who initially wrote it. but your reply sounds like a sidestep towards my person, since most people know who really wrote |
| 13:04.38 | oGALAXYo | that comment (regardless whether it was copied there or not) and your reply is misleading giving people the impression that you indeed dont kick that guy who copied it there but rather kicking me who initially wrote it. |
| 13:04.52 | Sho_ | davidhouse: dmix is an ALSA plug-in that performs mixing of audio streams in software |
| 13:05.07 | davidhouse | i'll look to see if i can install it in yast |
| 13:05.26 | Sho_ | davidhouse: as opposed to doing it in hardware when a capable soundcard and a capable driver for it are present |
| 13:05.35 | CVirus | oGALAXYo: I didnt mean this at all ... sorry about that ... I'll edit my comment now |
| 13:05.39 | davidhouse | so it would allow me to play two sounds through xine at once? |
| 13:05.56 | davidhouse | or alsa, even |
| 13:06.02 | Sho_ | davidhouse: yes |
| 13:06.14 | oGALAXYo | CVirus: well its your choice and freedom to write what you think is right.. i only made my opinion out of it.. and i am fair enough to accept any kind of comments even criticism. |
| 13:06.48 | CVirus | oGALAXYo: I repeat my apology |
| 13:06.54 | Sho_ | davidhouse: with recent versions of ALSA, dmix is enabled by default when the soundcard (or the the card driver) doesn't support hardware mixing |
| 13:06.57 | oGALAXYo | no problem |
| 13:07.36 | davidhouse | okay, i'll look into it. |
| 13:07.47 | davidhouse | thanks, Sho_, spiral. |
| 13:08.03 | spiral | davidhouse: you're welcome |
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| 13:13.26 | spiral | 'bye all |
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| 13:13.33 | joshisscifi | hey everybody |
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| 14:14.36 | voicu | hi, when i logout in kde 3.3 (on debian) kdm stops and i have to restart it from the console. how can i set it to bring me back to the logon screen of kdm? |
| 14:15.12 | voicu | i looked into the man pages and searched on google but couldn't find anything. can someone at least give a hint pls? |
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| 14:18.23 | mebsd | omg still 3.3 in debian? |
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| 14:19.39 | voicu | i like it because it's more stable |
| 14:19.43 | visik7 | mebsd: sarge has 3.3 sid 3.5 |
| 14:20.03 | mebsd | anything between sarge and sid? |
| 14:20.07 | mebsd | testing? |
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| 14:21.11 | Blissex | mebsd: Debian does not quite work like that... 'sid' and 'testing' are more or less random package collections. |
| 14:21.38 | Blissex | there are unofficial but reliable KDE 3.5 for 'stable' packages... |
| 14:23.09 | voicu | how about my question? how do i set kde to go back to kdm, when close the session, instead of quiting to the console login? |
| 14:24.04 | theverant | anyone know why I can't edit the menu in KDE 3.4? |
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| 14:24.30 | voicu | i know this probably looks like a dumb question but i'm new to all of this and don't know exactly what to look for... |
| 14:24.56 | theverant | kmenuedit and menudrake both don't cause anything to change in the menu |
| 14:25.07 | Triffid_Hunter | voicu: that's related to your distribution's boot script i think.. it should re-start xorg if it exits with a successful status, taking you back to kdm.. sounds like that's not happening |
| 14:25.32 | theverant | can I specify a menu config file for KDE to reference? |
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| 14:26.03 | Triffid_Hunter | oh speaking of which, kde runs beautifully when i startx as user, but kdm can't start my session.. it tries and dies right away.. where would i start looking for what's going on there? |
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| 14:26.42 | Triffid_Hunter | it worked until my last round of updates to 3.4 (running 3.5 now) |
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| 14:27.08 | Triffid_Hunter | i've traced some of the tree of scripts it calls, but didn't find anything untoward |
| 14:27.43 | voicu | Triffid_Hunter: can you tell me where can i find the boot script and what option should i use? |
| 14:27.59 | Triffid_Hunter | voicu: not unless you're using gentoo |
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| 14:28.29 | voicu | ok... (i'm using debian) |
| 14:29.04 | Triffid_Hunter | heh me and debian never got on very well :/ |
| 14:29.08 | basse | hi, is there a log file for kde startup? |
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| 14:36.13 | voicu | can anyone help me with kdm? |
| 14:36.48 | FuzzyTheBear | probably someone can ... but we need more info ; ) |
| 14:38.20 | voicu | when i close a session i want kde to bring me back to kdm. instead kde closes and i get the console login |
| 14:38.40 | Triffid_Hunter | voicu: i don't think your issue has anything to do with kde.. does ctrl+alt+backspace (force kill X) leave you on the console too? |
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| 14:40.00 | voicu | Triffid_Hunter: no, i get kdm |
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| 14:41.03 | Triffid_Hunter | voicu: that boot script is messed up if it dies on exit session but happily restarts from force kill.. do you have an ati card? |
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| 14:41.17 | voicu | yes |
| 14:42.36 | voicu | Triffid_Hunter: could the driver be a problem? |
| 14:43.44 | Triffid_Hunter | voicu: i've just heard a few whispers about the ati drivers making xorg die when it tries to exit.. ask google about the phenomenon |
| 14:44.03 | voicu | Triffid_Hunter: ok, thanks for the tip |
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| 14:52.41 | Yango | hello, what is kded? an how is the correct way to disable it? |
| 14:53.51 | DeadS0ul | I gotta stop playing WoW >\ |
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| 14:57.09 | DocTomoe | Big question: Is it possible to add a "Print this file" function to konquerors context menu in file mode under KDE3.5.0 without tinkering with sourcecode? |
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| 14:57.14 | visik7 | DeadS0ul: ahaaha |
| 14:57.21 | visik7 | DeadS0ul: are u using cedega ? |
| 14:57.26 | DocTomoe | [should have been "SMALL" question, sorry] |
| 14:58.01 | DeadS0ul | visik7: naw I boot into windows |
| 14:58.13 | DeadS0ul | have to use Teamspeak/Vent + WoW =( |
| 14:59.30 | Skrot | teamspeak and WoW works in linux |
| 14:59.35 | visik7 | DeadS0ul: have u ever try to run it under cedega ? |
| 14:59.39 | visik7 | I know it's possible |
| 14:59.48 | DeadS0ul | naw |
| 14:59.49 | Skrot | WoW runs cedega and teamspeak has a native linux client |
| 14:59.56 | Skrot | err, cedega runs WoW ;) |
| 14:59.58 | Yango | hello, what is kded? I'm using Ubuntu breezy, KDE version 3.4.3 and it chews up CPU like a prime number calculator... I've disabled it with a kill, but want to know what are the sideeffects |
| 15:00.11 | Skrot | Yango: KDED is the KDE deamon |
| 15:00.17 | DeadS0ul | is cedega free? |
| 15:00.21 | visik7 | I hope that blizzard will develop a wow client |
| 15:00.26 | visik7 | DeadS0ul: cvs yes |
| 15:00.27 | Skrot | I think it's used for running some KDE services |
| 15:00.31 | visik7 | DeadS0ul: binary no |
| 15:00.34 | Yango | skrot: Ok, and what does it do? KDE still works when I kill it... |
| 15:00.44 | DeadS0ul | so Ijust have to compile it? |
| 15:00.50 | Yango | and MUCH faster, i must say |
| 15:01.01 | Skrot | Yango: I'm not quite sure. |
| 15:01.06 | Yango | load dropped from 2.5, 3.5 to 0.5 |
| 15:01.11 | Skrot | hm |
| 15:01.14 | Yango | I can now actually USE my computer :) |
| 15:01.26 | Skrot | Sounds like your kded is broken :) |
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| 15:02.33 | Yango | will go try another WM then |
| 15:03.33 | Skrot | Logical |
| 15:03.58 | Triffid_Hunter | i'd try another distro myself, but then ubuntu hates me and everyone i know so maybe i'm just biased |
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| 15:04.58 | DeadS0ul | Skrot: good thing bout teamspeak in windows is that I can use directX to use teamspeak on my headset while all the sounds from WoW are driected to my speakers |
| 15:05.07 | visik7 | is there a way to get a screenshot from the webcam from kde ? |
| 15:06.03 | Skrot | DeadS0ul: Dunno if that works in linux, perhaps arts can do it, but I don't know |
| 15:07.03 | Triffid_Hunter | alsa can do that.. jack makes it easier |
| 15:07.15 | DeadS0ul | oh |
| 15:07.28 | DeadS0ul | yeah I bet it works with alsa.. |
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| 15:07.39 | DeadS0ul | headphonese detected already with udev |
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| 15:08.16 | Triffid_Hunter | if only there was more than about 19 bytes of docs on configuring alsa :/ |
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| 15:09.06 | DocTomoe | Triffid_Hunter: well, this is oss. you always could start wriing some doc and sending it in vor evaluation ;) |
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| 15:09.51 | Triffid_Hunter | hehe *I* would have to understand it for that, and my current config is far more random conjugation and trial and error than i'm used to.. |
| 15:10.09 | DeadS0ul | debain got mine working fine =| |
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| 15:11.20 | Triffid_Hunter | oh it works out of the box pretty well, but if you want to define exactly *how* stereo is upmixed to 5.1 you gotta engage in a little hackery ;) |
| 15:13.05 | DeadS0ul | ahhhhhhhhhh |
| 15:13.13 | DeadS0ul | 2.1 here lol |
| 15:13.54 | Blissex | for 2.0 to 5.1 trickery, check http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 and http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Cfg/ALSA/ |
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| 15:15.08 | DeadS0ul | have to mess aroudn in linux so much to get stuff working right |
| 15:15.13 | Triffid_Hunter | hehe i got mine set up so my fronts, rears and center/lfe are available as three separate alsa devices, as well as upmixing mono and stereo to full 5.1.. most of it is just me finding out *how* to talk to alsa ;) |
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| 15:17.08 | dune1 | Does krita have any right click menus and what about smudge? |
| 15:17.52 | Triffid_Hunter | Blissex: thanks for linkage :) |
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| 15:23.06 | DeadS0ul | Triffid_Hunter: thtas' pretty damn cool hehehe |
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| 15:23.59 | CVirus | stupid connection |
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| 15:35.47 | peppelorum | How do I get rid of the underlining in the menubar? http://peppesbodega.nu/files/Dump/underlined.png It's a mod to plastik I'm using |
| 15:36.09 | peppelorum | Where it says "Location" etc |
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| 15:46.14 | Steve^ | Is anyone else having problems with Kate recently? |
| 15:46.31 | Steve^ | It keeps thinking all the file I have opened have changed on the disk and then whatever option I choose, it crashes |
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| 15:51.23 | putzel | what algorithms does the ssl module in konqueror use by default? |
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| 15:56.53 | putzel | i tested it a little bit and i see that it's using rc4-md5. i don't think that's a secure choice :\ |
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| 16:04.21 | visik7 | when kicker crash the system tray doesn't reload icons |
| 16:04.30 | visik7 | how can I get reload icons without reload the apps ? |
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| 16:05.03 | IceD^ | any estimations when ugly bug with `back and broken encoding` in konqueror will be fixed |
| 16:05.23 | IceD^ | visik7: no way |
| 16:05.37 | IceD^ | btw - how you managed to crasj kicker?! |
| 16:05.42 | visik7 | :) |
| 16:05.56 | visik7 | IceD^: dunno kicker closed and nothing else |
| 16:06.07 | visik7 | then restart in auto |
| 16:06.18 | visik7 | but no more systray icons :( |
| 16:06.28 | IceD^ | haven't seen crashed kicker since 3.3 |
| 16:06.41 | visik7 | I got many kicker crash in 3.5 |
| 16:06.48 | visik7 | and also kwin |
| 16:07.03 | visik7 | they are the 2 most crashing apps of my kde installation |
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| 16:09.49 | IceD^ | visik7: distro?! |
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| 16:10.00 | visik7 | IceD^: kubuntu |
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| 16:10.17 | IceD^ | when I tested latest suse - I got dozens crashes in kde |
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| 16:10.50 | IceD^ | visik7: probably `wrong distro` (tm) |
| 16:11.00 | IceD^ | however it's rock stable on common debian |
| 16:11.01 | visik7 | wrong distro for kde ? |
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| 16:11.29 | visik7 | I don't think that a distro make the difference on the stability of kde |
| 16:12.33 | benJIman | kde very unstable on kbuntu |
| 16:12.36 | benJIman | *kubuntu |
| 16:13.05 | visik7 | really ? |
| 16:13.13 | visik7 | someone knows why ? |
| 16:13.14 | benJIman | in my experience, everything segfaults |
| 16:13.18 | benJIman | constantly |
| 16:13.33 | IceD^ | visik7: because you should use debian |
| 16:13.34 | visik7 | 3.4 or 3.5 ? |
| 16:13.43 | IceD^ | not some crappy orphan |
| 16:13.47 | benJIman | both |
| 16:13.56 | benJIman | perhaps it's the ubuntu compiler |
| 16:13.58 | visik7 | IceD^: debian have all small bug that fuck me up |
| 16:14.00 | Puaff | benJIman, have you passed a memory test to your computer? |
| 16:14.28 | benJIman | Puaff: yep 24hrs no problem, and it's quality ram |
| 16:14.29 | Puaff | benJIman, use memtest+ included in the boot menu |
| 16:14.31 | IceD^ | visik7: there is one thing - stability of apps is different from app to app |
| 16:14.52 | benJIman | Puaff: other distros fine, but tried kubuntu on a few machines but everything just segfaults |
| 16:14.53 | IceD^ | pff |
| 16:14.58 | IceD^ | from distro to distro |
| 16:15.04 | IceD^ | this depends on: |
| 16:15.10 | IceD^ | 1. patchsets |
| 16:15.14 | IceD^ | 2. used compiler |
| 16:15.15 | visik7 | IceD^: I mean not in the whole system but in apps like kde or gnome there are some misconfig in debian that ubuntu solves |
| 16:15.19 | IceD^ | 3. compiler flags |
| 16:15.28 | visik7 | IceD^: (partially) |
| 16:15.32 | Puaff | benJIman, I'm using KDE in ubuntu without after ap-get install and runs fine |
| 16:15.38 | IceD^ | visik7: which bugs e.g.? |
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| 16:16.58 | IceD^ | we are not using debian here |
| 16:17.05 | IceD^ | but our Moscow office does |
| 16:17.09 | IceD^ | w/ kde |
| 16:17.12 | visik7 | sid ? |
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| 16:17.31 | IceD^ | works OK |
| 16:17.36 | IceD^ | visik7: yup |
| 16:17.39 | visik7 | mmm |
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| 16:19.14 | visik7 | for example today sid has 2 unmet dependencies |
| 16:19.22 | IceD^ | visik7: please explain `misconfig in debian that ubuntu solves` |
| 16:19.23 | visik7 | at least on a test systemthat i've |
| 16:20.17 | visik7 | IceD^: never use kde on sid to compare it |
| 16:20.53 | visik7 | but gnome had some problems on sid that ubuntu hadn't |
| 16:21.12 | IceD^ | not using gnome for last 6 or 7 years :) |
| 16:21.16 | visik7 | :) |
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| 16:21.59 | visik7 | sid had many font problems in the past time at least for me |
| 16:22.04 | visik7 | fonts |
| 16:22.20 | Skrot | I've always used SID |
| 16:22.29 | Skrot | KDE from source though |
| 16:22.33 | IceD^ | visik7: btw - according my exp - gentoo is the best distro for desktop |
| 16:22.44 | IceD^ | no problems at all |
| 16:22.47 | visik7 | IceD^: I've used gentoo for half a year |
| 16:22.59 | visik7 | and it getting bigger every day |
| 16:23.02 | visik7 | no rev dep |
| 16:23.08 | IceD^ | hmm |
| 16:23.13 | visik7 | and too many time spent to compile packages |
| 16:23.15 | IceD^ | I'm using this installation for 4 years |
| 16:23.19 | IceD^ | works OK |
| 16:23.23 | IceD^ | and compiles at nights |
| 16:23.37 | IceD^ | at least kicker does not crash here |
| 16:24.06 | Skrot | btw, anyone here got a acer travelmate 3000-series? |
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| 16:25.34 | visik7 | Skrot: is the one with 16:10 x600 and p4 HT ? |
| 16:26.19 | Skrot | No, it's a 12.1" ;) |
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| 16:26.48 | Skrot | Subnotebook |
| 16:26.50 | visik7 | Skrot: ok as not said |
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| 16:35.10 | dec0ding | Player :: There are no midi ports ! |
| 16:35.10 | dec0ding | kmid problem ^^ |
| 16:37.00 | PhilRod | presumably your card('s driver) doesn't do hw midi |
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| 16:40.08 | foo | kweather requires some type of METAR code. - what is this? |
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| 16:44.49 | savas | Hi.Does KDE 3.5 support HAL =>5.x?Thanks |
| 16:46.10 | qfh | savas: works with 0.5.5.1-r3 here |
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| 16:53.52 | savas | qfh:thanks.does camera work out of the box? |
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| 16:56.14 | superlinux | hi all |
| 16:56.26 | qfh | savas: mmh i think so, if it uses standard usb-storage |
| 16:56.35 | superlinux | hi |
| 16:56.38 | superlinux | the issue is that the gnome appication fonts are too small from kde even on the gdm |
| 16:57.50 | superlinux | who can help me please |
| 16:59.34 | savas | qfh:what is the minimum requirements about udev,dbus,kernel?I use Slackware 10.2 |
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| 17:02.20 | qfh | savas: i don't know but i use udev-073, dbus-0.60-r3, hal-0.5.5.1-r3 and kernel 2.6.15-gentoo |
| 17:02.31 | qfh | it's not working reliable, though |
| 17:02.37 | qfh | yesterday it worked, today it doesn't :( |
| 17:02.53 | savas | qfh:thanks a lot |
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| 17:03.04 | qfh | maybe i will try a never udev version |
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| 17:04.13 | Puaff | please, it is possible to connect to more than one irc server at the same time in konversation? |
| 17:04.14 | savas | qfh:my udev is 064..i think i have to upgrade it...but it is so painful |
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| 17:04.57 | qfh | why is it painful? do you have to compile it manually? |
| 17:05.13 | savas | i can...but system becomes weird |
| 17:05.37 | savas | the /dev and /udev dirs appeared and so confusing |
| 17:05.46 | benJIman | Puaff: yes |
| 17:06.00 | qfh | yes this stuff is under heavy development... i had broken dependencies when i upgraded dbus.. took me a while to figure out |
| 17:06.20 | savas | qfh:i see |
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| 17:06.55 | savas | qfh:i used it when hal is 0.4.8...but it was useless without ivman |
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| 17:08.32 | Puaff | benJIman, if I do /server will I lose my freenode session? |
| 17:08.47 | benJIman | Puaff: file -> server list |
| 17:09.01 | benJIman | or quick connect |
| 17:09.34 | Puaff | benJIman, ups!!! thank you very much :)) |
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| 17:10.19 | qfh | savas: did you manage to get some useful debugging information out of that hal/udev/dbus programs? so that i could see if the system knows that i inserted a cd, i.e.P |
| 17:10.20 | qfh | ? |
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| 17:10.54 | Tonio_ | i everyone |
| 17:11.11 | Tonio_ | I have a little question concerning kde... |
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| 17:11.20 | savas | qfh:now i don't have any hal or "hal compatible kde 3.5"...i have to recompile kde-libs,udev,and hal... |
| 17:11.22 | Tonio_ | how to disable a kio ? |
| 17:11.27 | savas | then i can do spmething |
| 17:11.46 | Tonio_ | for example I want a .tar.gz to open in ark directly instead of opening with tar:/ |
| 17:11.47 | qfh | savas: oh ok :) |
| 17:12.04 | Tonio_ | didn't find the option... |
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| 17:12.38 | savas | qfh:now i'm searching for the requirements...it's some complicated |
| 17:12.40 | PhilRod | Tonio_: settings->configure konq->file associations->tar.gz->set "open in external" rather than "embedded" |
| 17:13.08 | Tonio_ | PhilRod: thanks ;) |
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| 17:17.23 | willwork4foo | thiago: ping |
| 17:17.31 | willwork4foo | anyone here use kdesvn-build ? |
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| 17:25.20 | theverant | this is so retarded... did a full clean install of my system. I still can't edit the KDE menu |
| 17:25.32 | theverant | anyone have an idea about what could be up? |
| 17:25.44 | PhilRod | write perms on ~/.config or ~/.local? |
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| 17:27.18 | PhilRod | make a change, then look in, um ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu to see if your change got writte |
| 17:27.26 | PhilRod | written* |
| 17:27.42 | theverant | ok I'll try that |
| 17:28.05 | PhilRod | oh, maybe the XDG_* variables are set incorrectly |
| 17:28.15 | PhilRod | but less likely |
| 17:28.41 | PhilRod | (check "set | grep XDG" to see if they're set, then try unsetting them and running kbuildsycoca) |
| 17:28.43 | theverant | the .menu file reflects changes I made |
| 17:28.47 | theverant | but the menu does not |
| 17:28.59 | PhilRod | run kbuildsycoca and look at the menu again |
| 17:29.34 | theverant | XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/var/lib/menu-xdg |
| 17:29.44 | theverant | XDG_DATA_DIRS=/var/lib/menu-xdg:/usr/share |
| 17:29.55 | theverant | was the return on the set command |
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| 17:30.23 | theverant | how do I unset them? |
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| 17:31.07 | PhilRod | hrm, actually, they shouldn't cause the problem. There's another var you might need to set. Let me check |
| 17:31.12 | theverant | I guess reinstalling was a big ol waste o time :( |
| 17:31.32 | theverant | that was usually the solution with Windows :) |
| 17:32.02 | Jester_ | Is there any way to move a taskbar object to a different location on the taskbar ? Moving it left or right |
| 17:32.27 | PhilRod | http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/kde-menu.html has some info, theverant |
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| 17:32.51 | PhilRod | try setting XDG_CONFIG_HOME=$HOME/.config/menus and from that shell, run kbuildsycoca |
| 17:33.18 | theverant | how do I set that? |
| 17:33.25 | theverant | just type it in? |
| 17:33.56 | PhilRod | export XDG_CONFIG_HOME=$HOME/.config/menus |
| 17:34.31 | theverant | bash: kbuildsyscoca: command not found |
| 17:34.36 | theverant | :( |
| 17:34.42 | PhilRod | typo |
| 17:34.53 | PhilRod | read the name more carefully |
| 17:34.54 | theverant | whoopsie |
| 17:34.57 | theverant | sorry |
| 17:35.16 | PhilRod | don't worry - everyone does that the first time :-) |
| 17:35.29 | sredna | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.54 | theverant | it returned a bunch of warnings about undefined mimetype |
| 17:35.59 | PhilRod | yeah, always does |
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| 17:36.27 | willwork4foo | heya PhilRod |
| 17:36.31 | willwork4foo | hi sredna |
| 17:36.35 | PhilRod | hi willwork4foo |
| 17:36.40 | sredna | Hello willwork4foo |
| 17:36.44 | sredna | :) |
| 17:37.00 | willwork4foo | I've been trying to use kdesvn-build to build 3.5 for me - and I keep getting this happen: http://www.bdmsystems.com/foo/typescript |
| 17:37.06 | sredna | Kate.desktop causes tons of warnings |
| 17:38.00 | theverant | so weird... apparently some change took.. my Home is now called thev_home and kmenuedit reflects it, but I can't change it back to Home |
| 17:38.17 | theverant | oh ok |
| 17:38.32 | theverant | everytime i run the kbuildsycoca it updates |
| 17:38.48 | willwork4foo | anyone know what the deal with the SVN server is??? |
| 17:38.54 | willwork4foo | it keeps dropping my connection |
| 17:38.59 | theverant | annoying, but at least it works :) |
| 17:39.57 | PhilRod | theverant: you probably want that environment variable set for your whole session. How are you starting KDE? (startx or kdm?) |
| 17:40.08 | theverant | kdm I believe |
| 17:41.04 | TeaSea | I have a question, are there any functions or plugins for KIO or Konqueror to allow advanced image catalog functions? |
| 17:41.17 | PhilRod | willwork4foo: IIRC, cvs used to close the connection if you connected too frequently. Perhaps svn is doing the same thing |
| 17:41.35 | PhilRod | TeaSea: best to ask in #kde-devel. Also, look in the kimdaba and digikam sources |
| 17:41.46 | willwork4foo | PhilRod: It's happenning every single time - even the first time I tried. |
| 17:41.53 | TeaSea | PhilRod: I see. I was really wanting to do it without installing extra programs :P |
| 17:42.05 | willwork4foo | kdesvn-build is kind of useless and pointless if it's disconnecting halfway through each time, no? |
| 17:43.08 | theverant | is it possible to make the Plastik window decoration with smaller buttons? |
| 17:43.39 | PhilRod | right-click on titlebar->configure window behaviour -> border size |
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| 17:43.49 | PhilRod | oh no, that doesn't do i |
| 17:43.51 | PhilRod | it |
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| 17:46.01 | PhilRod | willwork4foo: try updating the svn directories manually. Then pull that bit out of kdesvn-build |
| 17:46.08 | PhilRod | heck, it mght even have an option to do it |
| 17:46.14 | PhilRod | bbl |
| 17:46.27 | willwork4foo | mkay... |
| 17:46.49 | Tonio_ | PhilRod: hum... doesn't work, still opening with tar:/ kio_slave |
| 17:48.48 | theverant | Is Amarok the best player to be using with iPod? |
| 17:49.36 | TeaSea | Amarok is the best player |
| 17:49.37 | TeaSea | period. |
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| 17:50.00 | theverant | that's fairly definative :) |
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| 17:52.42 | thiago | willwork4foo: pong |
| 17:53.02 | willwork4foo | thiago: did you know that kdesvn-build doesn't work at all???? |
| 17:53.14 | straw | pfft |
| 17:53.30 | straw | it works fine |
| 17:53.32 | willwork4foo | kdesvn-build seems to have a bit of a serious problem. it appears that the svn servers kick people off if they try to connect too many times in a short period. |
| 17:53.44 | willwork4foo | kdesvn-build connects for each package. |
| 17:53.54 | willwork4foo | after around 7 or 8 packages, it stops downloading. |
| 17:54.09 | willwork4foo | take a look at my screen output - www.bdmsystems.com/foo/typescript |
| 17:54.15 | willwork4foo | I've tried it FOUR TIMES |
| 17:54.36 | willwork4foo | three of those attempts have been on fresh, virgin installs of slackware 10.2 with NO previous KDE installed at all |
| 17:55.05 | willwork4foo | straw: do you have an account on the kde svn server? |
| 17:55.30 | straw | no, but i use it anonymously |
| 17:55.46 | sredna | Darn, people shuould use debug areas :( |
| 17:55.55 | sredna | Mumble |
| 17:56.42 | straw | willwork4foo: rather than trying to do it all at once, do a module at a time |
| 17:57.12 | willwork4foo | straw: I was kind of hoping for a fire-and-forget command that would do it all for me. I've now spent over three days trying to do it a module at a time. |
| 17:57.15 | willwork4foo | I'm getting a bit sick of it. |
| 17:57.18 | willwork4foo | :( |
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| 17:57.44 | willwork4foo | Essentially, all I'm trying to do is to get an install of KDE 3.5 with all the extra bits (like zeroconf, etc) working |
| 17:58.32 | thiago | willwork4foo: no, I know it works just fine |
| 17:58.41 | thiago | willwork4foo: I've build KDE dozens of times using it |
| 17:58.44 | thiago | willwork4foo: therefore, it works. |
| 17:58.53 | willwork4foo | thiago: right. on what distro |
| 17:58.59 | thiago | Conectiva 10 |
| 17:59.04 | willwork4foo | ever done it on slackware 10.2 ? |
| 17:59.06 | thiago | rather, Conectiva Snapshot |
| 17:59.08 | thiago | no |
| 17:59.11 | straw | ? kconf_update/kconf_update.la.cpp |
| 17:59.26 | willwork4foo | I've tried it on slackware-current, slackware-10.2, slackware 10.1.... |
| 17:59.31 | straw | svn status is showing ~20 of those |
| 17:59.35 | willwork4foo | it does exactly the same time. |
| 18:00.04 | straw | i've cleaned... are some .cpp files generated? |
| 18:00.13 | thiago | straw: yes |
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| 18:00.50 | thiago | willwork4foo: try --svn-only until you get everything checked out |
| 18:00.54 | thiago | then do a --no-svn |
| 18:01.00 | willwork4foo | thiago: ok. |
| 18:01.10 | willwork4foo | I'm doing a fresh install of slackware at the moment |
| 18:01.13 | willwork4foo | version 10.2 |
| 18:01.17 | willwork4foo | without KDE |
| 18:01.27 | willwork4foo | I'll give it a go when I'm done with that install |
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| 18:05.31 | chaosite | hey, i'm using kde 3.5, and trying to use kde with openbox... When I try setting it into rows, it shows rows in the pager, but I can't move up and down desktops. How can I fix this? |
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| 18:09.50 | rabauke | Does starting kontact trigger kbuildsycoca? |
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| 18:12.19 | chaosite | kpager is supposedly ewmh compliant, so it should work as advertised... |
| 18:12.21 | rabauke | why is it triggered so often? |
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| 18:12.35 | CVirus | oGALAXYo: http://www.eglug.org/node/1814 .. I repeat my apology once again |
| 18:12.41 | aiki | how can i tell what flags kde was compiled with? |
| 18:13.17 | oGALAXYo | CVirus: no problem... |
| 18:13.24 | oGALAXYo | CVirus: thanks for correcting the statement. |
| 18:13.56 | litb | does anyone know how can i copy a /dev/hda to /dev/hda_ ? |
| 18:14.06 | chaosite | litb: huh? why? |
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| 18:14.29 | litb | basicially i want to copy nodes from /dev to /lib/udev/devices |
| 18:14.54 | litb | only those which aren't automatically added by udev |
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| 18:15.10 | litb | but if i do "cp /dev/stdio /lib/udev/devices" |
| 18:15.12 | chaosite | litb: hmm. I think its mentioned in the cp manpage. |
| 18:15.15 | litb | it waint for input :) |
| 18:15.19 | litb | *waits |
| 18:15.20 | chaosite | litb: theres a special option. |
| 18:15.26 | straw | CVirus: there's a broken link on that page |
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| 18:15.51 | thiago | /dev/stdio? |
| 18:15.58 | thiago | don't you mean /dev/stdin ? |
| 18:16.06 | litb | yes :) |
| 18:16.09 | litb | heh |
| 18:16.20 | _linus | algien d spaña?? |
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| 18:16.47 | thiago | /dev/stdin is your input |
| 18:16.50 | thiago | you must type something |
| 18:16.58 | litb | yes, i know |
| 18:17.04 | litb | but i don't want ;) |
| 18:17.04 | thiago | cp /dev/stdin /something == cat > /something |
| 18:17.10 | litb | yes |
| 18:17.10 | thiago | if you don't want, don't use it |
| 18:17.33 | litb | but i want to copy it anyway :) |
| 18:17.48 | thiago | you can't copy the contents of /dev/stdin |
| 18:17.49 | litb | just the node, not the stream. i will have a look into the man... |
| 18:17.57 | thiago | ah |
| 18:18.00 | thiago | cp -ax |
| 18:18.03 | litb | i want to copy just the major/minor number |
| 18:18.21 | aiki | any idea how i can tell what options kde was compiled with? |
| 18:18.37 | thiago | aiki: look at the tool and scripts that were used to build it |
| 18:18.45 | aiki | rpms.. |
| 18:18.49 | thiago | if you still have the config.log or config.status, it should be on them |
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| 18:19.01 | thiago | aiki: then look at the .src.rpm's .spec file |
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| 18:19.32 | litb | thiago: wonderful, thx |
| 18:19.33 | aiki | no other way? for e.g. if i see a phpinfo() page it shows me the options at runtime. |
| 18:19.36 | cyberjobe | hei guys |
| 18:19.40 | cyberjobe | HAPPY NEW YEAR |
| 18:19.46 | thiago | aiki: no |
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| 18:19.52 | thiago | aiki: you must look at the build process |
| 18:19.53 | cyberjobe | I've a question about K3B |
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| 18:20.01 | cyberjobe | can anyone help me? |
| 18:20.08 | thiago | cyberjobe: we don't know yet |
| 18:20.15 | cyberjobe | ok |
| 18:20.30 | cyberjobe | I'm italian so I'll try to explain myself as best as I can |
| 18:20.41 | cyberjobe | I've bought some DVD DL |
| 18:20.53 | cyberjobe | I'm not able to write them |
| 18:20.59 | cyberjobe | because of this error |
| 18:21.01 | cyberjobe | IMPOSSIBILE DETERMINARE LA DIMENSIONE RISULTANTE DEL FILE IMMAGINE |
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| 18:21.07 | cyberjobe | IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO DETERMINE |
| 18:21.08 | thiago | don't shout |
| 18:21.22 | cyberjobe | THE dimension of the image file |
| 18:21.58 | cyberjobe | I'm going to write a directory and it's space is 7,4 gb |
| 18:23.19 | cyberjobe | what could be wrong? |
| 18:23.42 | PhilRod | what program are you using to write the DVD? |
| 18:24.40 | cyberjobe | k3b |
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| 18:25.23 | samuel | sup all |
| 18:25.46 | samuel | is there any way to configure the way kde programs display video? ie not use xv? |
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| 18:26.06 | thiago | samuel: KDE programs don't use XV |
| 18:26.27 | thiago | or, at least, I've never seen any program do it |
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| 18:26.53 | samuel | thiago: i see, does kde use overlay? |
| 18:27.07 | thiago | samuel: no |
| 18:27.15 | thiago | samuel: not normally, anyways |
| 18:27.21 | thiago | samuel: primitive X11 calls only |
| 18:28.22 | samuel | thiago: you know why kde whows blue screens in noatun and programs like that when im trying to play to a projector, but not when playing on my laptops pc screen? |
| 18:28.37 | thiago | we're talking normal KDE programs |
| 18:28.41 | thiago | like Konsole and Konqueror |
| 18:28.45 | thiago | do these work fine? |
| 18:28.49 | samuel | yes |
| 18:29.08 | samuel | everything works fine, except for noatun and kaffeine and the like |
| 18:29.09 | thiago | the video programs have switches, though |
| 18:29.13 | thiago | what backend are you using? |
| 18:29.15 | thiago | mplayer or xine? |
| 18:29.18 | samuel | xine |
| 18:29.49 | thiago | configure your xine backend to use the X11 driver |
| 18:30.25 | samuel | thiago: i see, you know the dir where xine options are stored by any chance? |
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| 18:31.02 | thiago | samuel: no |
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| 18:31.26 | samuel | thiago: thanks, ill look into it |
| 18:31.31 | cire | when trying to activate aqhbci in kmymoney2, I always get an backend-error. |
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| 18:37.48 | sredna | thiago: Congrats on the new job |
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| 18:38.38 | thiago | sredna: thanks |
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| 19:10.12 | df00z | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119668 this needs more votes :( |
| 19:10.14 | df00z | please vote |
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| 19:10.38 | df00z | The run applet, running KDE apps in kde 3.5.0, they won't show in the kicker/taskbar |
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| 19:12.23 | yanmorin | it doesn't need more vote, it needs more coders ;p |
| 19:12.30 | Padnah | I have installed kbear as a FTP client in KDE. Where do I find kbear in the menu? |
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| 19:14.18 | ZiDaNe | how to remove pager menu separators or hide them ? |
| 19:15.05 | ZiDaNe | distro debian testing + kde 3.4.3 |
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| 19:18.46 | yanmorin | hum, it's work with konqueror, but not with kate or kwrite |
| 19:19.12 | yanmorin | hum, work with kate, but not kwrite |
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| 19:25.38 | CVirus | guys .. no way to move my openeds windows throught the desktop previewer instead of the desktop pager ? |
| 19:25.41 | CVirus | like in gnome |
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| 19:28.03 | sredna | CVirus: You mean the one in kicker? Just grab and move, if you have kde 3.5 |
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| 19:28.39 | CVirus | sredna: KDE 3.4 cant do that |
| 19:28.47 | CVirus | I'm on 3.4 |
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| 19:29.19 | CVirus | its my problem them |
| 19:29.21 | CVirus | then* |
| 19:29.22 | straw | i used to be able to, sredna. i've forgotten most of it now :) |
| 19:29.24 | sredna | CVirus: No, you can find a replacement on www.kde-apps.org that can (kickerpager2 iirc) - that is also what has been incoperated in kicker in 3.5 |
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| 19:30.02 | straw | grrr... fedora doesn't ship pykde :| |
| 19:30.23 | ZiDaNe | is there a way to remove/hide Desktop previewer/pager separators from kde taskbar in kde 3.4.3 ? |
| 19:30.26 | CVirus | straw: Fedora ? I used to be a Fedora lover .. not any more |
| 19:31.51 | straw | what'd you switch to? |
| 19:32.02 | CVirus | straw: Gentoo |
| 19:32.09 | CVirus | straw: I just dont want to start a flame war |
| 19:32.17 | straw | good |
| 19:32.35 | sredna | Noisy crap |
| 19:33.03 | sredna | Bah |
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| 19:35.12 | Frogbarf | i would like to use konqueror as my main browser, but i have noticed that some things don't render as well in it as firefox. Might I be doing something wrong? |
| 19:35.28 | theverant | CVirus - what are you running Gentoo on? |
| 19:36.17 | CVirus | theverant: Pentium4 with LGA Support 3GHz Processor ... 512 DDR2 Ram |
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| 19:36.31 | theverant | In 32B mode? |
| 19:36.35 | CVirus | yeah |
| 19:36.49 | CVirus | I'm not willing to switch to 64bit computing at the moment |
| 19:37.03 | theverant | ah, ok... I tried running AMD64 and was having issues with stuff not being available |
| 19:37.21 | theverant | it was mostly ok, but my scanner refused to work, which was a deal breaker |
| 19:37.50 | theverant | Works in Mandriva 2006.0 though... but there's other stuff I don't like about Mandriva vs. Gentoo |
| 19:37.51 | sredna | Frogbarf: I have very few pages that misrenders in KHTML. My bank does not work for technical reasons, and there are a few pages that fails because of odd redirection problems, that is about it. In general, I have to start firefox only for my bank |
| 19:38.11 | Nonsense | can you overburn dvds with k3b? |
| 19:38.20 | theverant | I thought it was pretty good |
| 19:38.30 | theverant | using emerge is awesome |
| 19:38.35 | Frogbarf | sredna: if they both respect "standards" then they should both work. |
| 19:38.50 | theverant | when 64B is more mature I'll probably switch back to it |
| 19:38.52 | CVirus | theverant: Its the most flexible distro I've ever seen |
| 19:39.02 | Frogbarf | try this page in both: http://www.icq.com/sounds/ |
| 19:39.15 | theverant | I just started with Linux, so I only have experience with Gentoo & Mandriva |
| 19:39.40 | theverant | mandriva is a little more forgiving to a new user :) |
| 19:39.59 | sredna | Frogbarf: I don't really know. The technical problems with my bank is related to secure java, something that the khtml developers feel is unnessecary to support, and the redirection problems are related to accepting a login with a certificate. |
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| 19:41.07 | Frogbarf | my bank used to have a problem with it, but it works now. |
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| 19:41.40 | theverant | so if I'm doing a complete system reinstall, and I write my /home/usr dir to a CD, can I copy it back and maintain all my settings? |
| 19:42.21 | PhilRod | all your KDE settings, yes |
| 19:42.25 | theverant | yay! |
| 19:42.30 | theverant | :) |
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| 19:46.15 | theverant | any suggestions on DVD copying software for KDE? |
| 19:46.25 | theverant | I haven't been able to get anything working as of yet |
| 19:46.32 | thiago | k3b |
| 19:47.12 | theverant | thiago - can K3B recompress 9GB to 4.6GB? |
| 19:47.19 | thiago | no |
| 19:47.22 | thiago | that's not copying |
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| 19:47.51 | theverant | well, backing up |
| 19:47.58 | thiago | much less |
| 19:48.15 | thiago | you want to reencode a movie |
| 19:48.29 | theverant | yeah |
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| 19:52.54 | theverant | no suggestions then? |
| 19:53.48 | theverant | oh well |
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| 19:56.25 | nh | theverant: I've read about this before: http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/ |
| 19:56.55 | theverant | thanks nh |
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| 20:03.10 | parsek_77 | having problem with changing gtk2 default font size. changing it from gtk2 prefs but when i open it again i looks not changed, any ideas? |
| 20:03.26 | PhilRod | ask in #gnome |
| 20:03.43 | parsek_77 | but i am using kde |
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| 20:04.00 | parsek_77 | programs like firefox using gtk2 have very big font size |
| 20:04.10 | parsek_77 | how can i fix it? |
| 20:04.29 | motyR | u can use gtk-qt |
| 20:04.30 | sredna | Use switch and switch2 |
| 20:04.30 | PhilRod | you could install the gtk-qt-engine to get gtk apps to use the qt font |
| 20:04.51 | parsek_77 | gtk-qt-engine is installed, |
| 20:05.18 | parsek_77 | i couldn't see any option in control center fot gtk |
| 20:05.50 | motyR | should reside in appearence |
| 20:06.57 | parsek_77 | it's not in there, am i missing somwthing else? |
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| 20:09.00 | motyR | check this - kcmshell kcmgtk-xdg |
| 20:09.32 | parsek_77 | run this in a shell? |
| 20:09.37 | motyR | yes |
| 20:09.51 | parsek_77 | kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'kcmgtk-xdg'. |
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| 20:11.50 | JRe | hi everyone |
| 20:12.05 | sredna | Ho |
| 20:12.29 | motyR | parsek_77: does kcmshell --list | grep gtk catch it? |
| 20:12.29 | JRe | I have just a little question: is it possible to deactive the *taz.gz and *zip previsualisation in Konqueror, and let Ark deal with that kind of files ? |
| 20:12.53 | parsek_77 | motyR, nope |
| 20:13.20 | motyR | parsek_77: r u sure u have it installed? |
| 20:13.56 | motyR | JRe: yws, checkout kcontrol |
| 20:14.05 | motyR | yes* |
| 20:14.13 | litb | can i tell kdm that it has to issuse a different kommand if i select to reboot my machine? |
| 20:14.16 | parsek_77 | motyR, in yast gtk-qt-engine looks checked |
| 20:14.22 | litb | that is because i use initng instead of init |
| 20:14.23 | sredna | JRe: Yes, in the file associations in the kde control center or konqueror configuration |
| 20:14.25 | parsek_77 | do i need to install something else? |
| 20:14.39 | JRe | sredna: yeah that's what I did but it did not work |
| 20:14.48 | sredna | JRe: You should change the setting for each mimetype individually |
| 20:15.10 | motyR | parsek_77: i'm using suse too, i can check which version... |
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| 20:16.03 | parsek_77 | motyR, in versions tab it shows 2, one with suse 10 the other is guru |
| 20:16.12 | sredna | JRe: In the embedding tab, select 'open in separate viewer' |
| 20:16.20 | litb | ough, have found it in kdm config |
| 20:17.28 | motyR | parsek_77: i'm using apt, so the version is 0.6 cvs, and working good |
| 20:18.07 | JRe | sredna: I did exactly what you did: removed ark_part service, setted use custom settings, display out of konqueror, and associated with Ark. |
| 20:18.14 | JRe | sredna: and it's still not working |
| 20:18.15 | motyR | parsek_77: anyhow u could check ~/.gtkrc-2.0 |
| 20:18.55 | parsek_77 | yast shows two versions 0.6 cvs20050220-11 and 0/6cvs20050709-3.guru.suse100 |
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| 20:19.33 | motyR | mine is the second one |
| 20:19.34 | parsek_77 | gtk-theme-name = "Raleigh" |
| 20:19.34 | parsek_77 | style "user-font" |
| 20:19.34 | parsek_77 | { |
| 20:19.34 | parsek_77 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:19.34 | parsek_77 | } |
| 20:19.35 | parsek_77 | widget_class "*" style "user-font" |
| 20:19.43 | motyR | yep |
| 20:19.48 | motyR | set it |
| 20:19.50 | dec0ding | anyone here using kde 3.5 and Kopete 0.11 ? |
| 20:20.00 | parsek_77 | motyR, i will change to 2nd one |
| 20:20.59 | sredna | JRe: I can confirm that there is a problem with local files |
| 20:21.04 | parsek_77 | motyR, how can i change it to the 2nd one |
| 20:21.06 | sredna | JRe: Ime, it works for remote files |
| 20:21.35 | parsek_77 | motyR, update? |
| 20:21.45 | PhilRod | dec0ding: yup |
| 20:21.47 | motyR | parsek_77: yes |
| 20:22.07 | parsek_77 | do i need to restart X? |
| 20:22.19 | motyR | no |
| 20:22.24 | dec0ding | PhilRod: do u notice the bug with Kopete getting stucked for couple of seconds when clicked on user to open Chat Dialog? |
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| 20:23.03 | PhilRod | dec0ding: no. what protocol? |
| 20:23.13 | PhilRod | dec0ding: best to ask in #kopete |
| 20:23.14 | dec0ding | PhilRod: all protocols, especially Jabber |
| 20:23.15 | parsek_77 | motyR, i got the gtk style tab in control center appereance |
| 20:23.25 | dec0ding | PhilRod: oh, didn't know about #kopete |
| 20:23.48 | motyR | :) |
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| 20:25.22 | parsek_77 | motyR, but i still have large fonts in firefox menu and adres bar |
| 20:27.59 | motyR | parsek_77: have u set the use this font and played with it? |
| 20:28.20 | motyR | parsek_77: "use another font" |
| 20:29.31 | parsek_77 | in control center i select use me kde style and font for GTK applications |
| 20:30.09 | parsek_77 | in firefox when i change fonts and sizes it only changes in the page not in the adres bar or menu |
| 20:30.33 | motyR | offcourse |
| 20:31.09 | parsek_77 | when u say use another font, u mean in kde fonts? |
| 20:31.11 | motyR | in gtk-qt |
| 20:31.36 | motyR | and then choose font and pay alittle bit with the size |
| 20:31.45 | motyR | play* |
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| 20:34.10 | parsek_77 | it's still the same...i changed couple of times and restart the firefox |
| 20:34.31 | parsek_77 | should i use different gtk style also? |
| 20:34.45 | motyR | no |
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| 20:34.53 | parsek_77 | ok |
| 20:35.30 | motyR | check out gimp or other gtk app... |
| 20:35.43 | litb | hey, i didn't noticed that kdm supports grub too |
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| 20:36.44 | parsek_77 | motyR, gimp's menu fonts are as big as firefox's, no chnge |
| 20:38.36 | parsek_77 | even it's correcting the .gtkrc-2.0 it is not taking it somehow, is there any other file |
| 20:40.03 | motyR | parsek_77: and does changing the look works? |
| 20:40.32 | parsek_77 | in firefox? |
| 20:40.55 | parsek_77 | what do u mean by the look? |
| 20:40.58 | motyR | doesnt metter any gtk |
| 20:41.04 | motyR | the style |
| 20:41.12 | parsek_77 | let me change it |
| 20:41.43 | parsek_77 | nope, it's the same |
| 20:42.11 | parsek_77 | i have this line, include "/opt/gnome/share/themes/Raleigh/gtk-2.0/gtkrc" |
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| 20:42.24 | motyR | maybe u could try restart X |
| 20:42.30 | parsek_77 | ok, brb |
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| 20:43.39 | claudiuc | Hi |
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| 20:44.06 | parsek_77 | motyR, it's working |
| 20:44.14 | parsek_77 | thanks a lot.... |
| 20:44.17 | motyR | :) |
| 20:44.24 | parsek_77 | restart the X |
| 20:44.45 | parsek_77 | i'm using xchat, it changed too |
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| 20:47.42 | claudiuc | Hello. I'm trying to compile KDE from trunk. On kdelibs I'm having problems with Makefiles. See http://rafb.net/paste/results/ggZ0oB82.nln.html I'm using Kubuntu 5.10. |
| 20:49.29 | PhilRod | claudiuc: best to ask in #kde-devel about trunk stuff, but I think you might need a different build system (I don't know if unsermake works with it) |
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| 20:57.33 | claudiuc | Philrod: Thank you Phil! :-) |
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| 21:00.10 | solsTiCe | http://home.tele2.fr/solsTiCe/img/merdouille1.png have you seen this nice bug already ? |
| 21:00.37 | solsTiCe | it happens when you search something in a page in konqueror (sometimes) |
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| 21:01.12 | Set | then it's tele2, france's fault |
| 21:02.06 | solsTiCe | Set: or may you stupid |
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| 21:03.12 | Set | solsTiCe, go eat some cheese. |
| 21:03.25 | solsTiCe | Set: fuck off |
| 21:03.36 | Set | solsTiCe: you too. thanks |
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| 21:05.06 | Set | solsTiCe, concidered talking to the guys at #konqueror about the problem, or are you aiming Mozilla questions to Gnome community? |
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| 21:05.44 | spiderworm | well i'll be damned |
| 21:05.56 | spiderworm | for some reason kmail decided to delete all messages from my inbox |
| 21:06.06 | spiderworm | i have no idea where it put them |
| 21:06.08 | spiderworm | wft |
| 21:06.10 | spiderworm | wtf |
| 21:06.12 | Set | ouch. that's harsh :( |
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| 21:06.57 | Set | checked if you just made a new profile, or something? |
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| 21:07.25 | Steve^ | Ahhh, I'm angry. How do I go back to an old version of Kate that isn't incredibly crashy? |
| 21:07.48 | Set | degrading KDE to a previous version? I don't know |
| 21:08.06 | mtn-man- | irc.efnet.net |
| 21:09.05 | sredna | Steve^: Sorry? |
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| 21:09.14 | sredna | Steve^: Uninstall SuSE? |
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| 21:09.27 | Steve^ | that seems illogical |
| 21:09.41 | Steve^ | Although I could go and finish the coding in Windows, yes |
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| 21:09.47 | sredna | Steve^: All crash reports since kde 3.5 comes from suse users |
| 21:10.08 | Steve^ | hmm |
| 21:10.13 | Steve^ | that smells |
| 21:10.14 | sredna | Steve^: But you should get a long way by updating your kernel |
| 21:10.33 | sredna | Frankly, I think there is someting wrong with their kde rpms too |
| 21:10.36 | Steve^ | I'm sure that isn't as easy as you make it sound |
| 21:11.11 | sredna | Well, there is a bug in dnotify or inotify that is not suse specific, but it's in the kernel that was released with suse 10 |
| 21:11.29 | sredna | As far as the rest, I can only watch the statistics |
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| 21:11.43 | Steve^ | well, this crash bug wasn't here 3 weeks ago, when I left for christmas |
| 21:11.46 | sredna | And personally, I haven't had a crash with kate since the release |
| 21:11.52 | Steve^ | Now I came back, updated everything and it does this |
| 21:12.23 | sredna | I can't help |
| 21:12.48 | sredna | Except for suggestiong that you update, or downgrade |
| 21:13.06 | sredna | Or use another distro |
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| 21:14.28 | Steve^ | I have considered trying another distro, such as Ubuntu, but I don't exactly have the partitions set up for another OS |
| 21:14.46 | Steve^ | And I'm not going to just delete SuSE on a whim |
| 21:15.49 | mtn-man- | what's a blacklisted proxy? i thought my chat was set to 'no proxy' |
| 21:16.06 | canllaith | Hrm |
| 21:16.16 | canllaith | my kate doesn't crash on suse 10 |
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| 21:16.33 | dim | hi there |
| 21:17.00 | dim | i'm looking for a docutils rest syntax highlighting in kde editors, kate for example |
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| 21:19.34 | Steve^ | canllaith: what version of Kate? |
| 21:19.40 | canllaith | 3.5 |
| 21:19.47 | Steve^ | Kate |
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| 21:21.08 | sredna | canllaith: It's a frustrating issue, some suse users have crashes, most luckily not |
| 21:21.22 | canllaith | I don't use suse as my main system though |
| 21:21.26 | sredna | dim: Hello |
| 21:21.38 | Steve^ | canllaith: can you not give a specific kate version? |
| 21:21.49 | sredna | dim: What is docutils rest? |
| 21:22.08 | canllaith | No, I can't, because I'm not sitting at suse right now. |
| 21:22.18 | canllaith | I'm using 3.5 packages linked to from download.kde.org |
| 21:22.27 | dim | a file format, text/plain, which is kind of equivalent to docbook |
| 21:22.29 | sredna | Kate is at 2.5 |
| 21:22.41 | Steve^ | k. As I say it worked before christmas, but not now. I upgraded a tonne of KDE packages when I came back yesterday |
| 21:22.49 | sredna | dim: If it's XML, you should just use the XML highlight |
| 21:22.52 | dim | wiki like text syntax, easy to use and figure out, allowing to generate great html and pdf outputs |
| 21:23.10 | dim | sredna: it's wiki like, as titles underlined with '=' symbols for example |
| 21:23.16 | sredna | Uhm, I believe we have some wike hls |
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| 21:23.30 | sredna | You could take one of those and change it |
| 21:23.40 | dim | sounds good enough for me |
| 21:23.59 | dim | could you point me to some source exemple? |
| 21:24.08 | sredna | We have wikimedia |
| 21:24.32 | dim | dpkg -L kate-plugins | grep -c wiki => 0 |
| 21:24.40 | sredna | Well, if you have kate installed you have all the files in $KDEDIR/share/apps/katepart/syntax |
| 21:24.48 | kjetilho | dim: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html see "view source" at end |
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| 21:25.08 | dim | kjetilho: i'm the one who already knows that part of the discussion :) |
| 21:25.18 | kjetilho | oh, sorry :) |
| 21:25.44 | sredna | dim: Also, the kate manual and the page dh pointed you to in #kate will be helpful |
| 21:25.53 | dim | in fact i even use the emacs rst-mode for rest editing, but my colleagues would apreciate kde support |
| 21:25.54 | kjetilho | I think reST is hard to implement syntax highlighting for, since it has so many heuristics |
| 21:26.11 | sredna | dim: The hithlight files are simple XML files, I believe it's not too hard to understand what they do |
| 21:26.12 | kjetilho | oh, I'll have to check out rst-mode :-) |
| 21:26.46 | dim | i'm also looking forward to emacs / kde integration, if this is possible |
| 21:26.58 | dim | i suppose mixing loop events will not be that easy |
| 21:27.24 | sredna | Kate rocks! :o |
| 21:27.39 | straw | it does |
| 21:27.45 | dim | i can't help typing C-x C-s in kate too :) |
| 21:28.02 | dim | and i miss some emacs features as C-l (centers screen on current line) |
| 21:28.14 | sredna | dim: You should really get used to living in the GUI world and just hit c-q instead |
| 21:28.23 | sredna | C-s I mean |
| 21:28.25 | dim | sredna: heheheh (110% unbiased) :) |
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| 21:28.43 | dim | GUI world is not that easy to catch up |
| 21:29.02 | dim | i happen to be unable to use konq more often than konsole |
| 21:29.23 | sredna | He, I use konsole for > 50% of my file management |
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| 21:29.45 | dim | so do I, and i don't see that changing |
| 21:30.11 | sredna | I didn't use emacs since last century though |
| 21:30.24 | sredna | Though I do use nano once in a while |
| 21:30.31 | kjetilho | Emacs key bindings are too much embedded in my spine. but I was impressed by the Emacs compatibility in Eclipse |
| 21:30.35 | dim | as for document editing, i've prefered to develop in-house latex sty files and pstricks cover to get nice PDFs from rest source than learn to use OOo or kword... |
| 21:31.06 | dim | kjetilho: using a 4 five years old computer, i don't even want to think about eclipse :) |
| 21:31.34 | kjetilho | I've got an old computer, too :-) 500 MHz with 512 MiB RAM. |
| 21:31.39 | dim | sredna: i even tend to prefer emacs -nw (no X11 windows, that is terminal mode) for some usages |
| 21:32.08 | dim | 550 MHz with 300Mo of RAM, that is swaping way too much |
| 21:32.24 | sredna | Well, if kwrite/kate would be as fast as less or nano, I'd use it always |
| 21:32.28 | sredna | But it isn't |
| 21:32.31 | dim | and amarok usage doesn't help |
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| 21:33.02 | kjetilho | too true, 114 MiB resident RAM usage for amaroK here. |
| 21:33.19 | dim | same here |
| 21:33.33 | dim | i suppose amarok needs that much RAM for the services it provides |
| 21:33.52 | kjetilho | I suppose so, Rhythmbox uses approx the same amount |
| 21:33.54 | dim | but 99% of the time amarok on my desktop is just a service icon (systray)... |
| 21:34.24 | dim | so a little less than 1/2 of my RAM for a systray seems odd |
| 21:36.12 | dim | (even if i couldn't live no more without dynamic mode) |
| 21:36.36 | kjetilho | I haven't understood what "dynamic mode" means :-) |
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| 21:40.37 | Padnah | My OS is DebianLinux with KDE. I have installed readpst so that I may import to Kmail my XP OS Outlook pst file, which I have tranfered to Linus OS. How do I operate readpst? |
| 21:42.08 | mebsd | now try that in english |
| 21:42.33 | alyent | Why the "screen orientation" feature is disabled in my kde-3.4.3? |
| 21:43.13 | dim | kjetilho: just try it from playlist tab, with a begining playlist empty |
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| 21:43.28 | dim | you'll see some titles come to fill the playlist while reading it |
| 21:43.37 | dim | and you have total control over playlist |
| 21:43.46 | JohnFlux | Hey all |
| 21:43.53 | dim | ultimate random music playing mode :) |
| 21:44.20 | dim | Padnah: it seems to me you have a wizard for kmail import |
| 21:44.36 | JohnFlux | I'll fix anyone's simple bug in return for buying a domino's pizza forme |
| 21:44.40 | JohnFlux | ;) |
| 21:44.47 | dim | hehe |
| 21:45.08 | thechris | i will buy you a domino's pizza form |
| 21:45.14 | thechris | e-form that it |
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| 21:45.33 | JohnFlux | http://www.dominos.co.uk/menu/default.aspx :) |
| 21:45.47 | Padnah | yes the wizard for kmail import is for Outlook Express not Outlook |
| 21:46.07 | Padnah | dim, yes the wizard for kmail import is for Outlook Express not Outlook |
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| 21:47.24 | dim | even after installing readpst ? then you'll have to cheat and read documentation (to be found in /usr/share/doc/readpst) |
| 21:47.45 | dim | i can't help you more, i've never used OE nor readpst :) |
| 21:48.42 | JohnFlux | rats, no offers |
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| 21:50.47 | kjetilho | dim: I see, thanks :-) |
| 21:51.14 | dim | i used to keep my entire collection in the playlist and play it randomly |
| 21:51.28 | dim | it's way much better since i've understood dynamic mode :) |
| 21:52.03 | kjetilho | yes, this is more like a party mode |
| 21:52.50 | JohnFlux | dim: if you have an ipod, you can add a 300GB drive to it. http://www.command-tab.com/index.php/ipod-super |
| 21:53.04 | JohnFlux | dim: then you could play randomly forever |
| 21:53.15 | dim | hehe |
| 21:53.25 | dim | i don't have one :) |
| 21:54.23 | dim | and by the way i happen to find 18Go of ogg/mp3 enough those days |
| 21:54.45 | JohnFlux | dim: I only have 'shrek soundtrack' |
| 21:54.52 | JohnFlux | dim: 7.4mb |
| 21:55.06 | dim | but don't you like to listen to music? |
| 21:55.11 | JohnFlux | dim: I want an ipod just to be in with the croud |
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| 21:55.24 | JohnFlux | hmm no not really |
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| 21:59.24 | dsafda | hi guys, it's incredible the lipstik theme won't work I compiled it, it doesn't appear in the kcontrol! |
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| 22:00.21 | dsafda | I've got NO errors while compiling |
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| 22:01.59 | Pygi | dsafda: Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions |
| 22:02.29 | dsafda | Pygi, xcuse me, it's a SuSE 10.0 with KDE 3.5 |
| 22:02.43 | sredna | dsafda: Assuming you also installed, and that you used the correct prefix, try running kbuildsycoca |
| 22:02.43 | dsafda | I'm trying the lipstik theme with the vista-mod |
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| 22:03.39 | dsafda | sredna, as root? |
| 22:03.44 | dsafda | as user: |
| 22:03.46 | dsafda | video/3gpp.desktop |
| 22:03.46 | dsafda | does not contain a ServiceType=... |
| 22:03.46 | dsafda | or MimeType=... entry |
| 22:04.02 | sredna | dsafda: Spare us the warnings |
| 22:04.08 | straw | ugh. here comes the inevitable vista "inspired" crud :/ |
| 22:04.20 | sredna | After running, restart the control center or style module |
| 22:06.09 | dsafda | not available |
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| 22:14.09 | pontusen | if i have a set of commands, can i make a script, to execute them quik'n'easy? |
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| 22:15.46 | sredna | pontusen: Sure |
| 22:16.01 | dim | using bash ? kommander ? |
| 22:16.11 | dim | bonsoir annma |
| 22:16.34 | annma | hi! |
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| 22:17.00 | sredna | dsafda: Maybe it was installed in a prefix where KDE does not find it |
| 22:17.02 | annma | a fellow frenchie? |
| 22:17.05 | sredna | Hi annma ) |
| 22:17.10 | annma | hi sredna :) |
| 22:17.12 | dim | annma: indeed :) |
| 22:17.16 | straw | salut annma ! |
| 22:17.19 | annma | lol |
| 22:17.26 | sredna | Skål |
| 22:17.35 | dim | reading your blog whenever it gets published on planetkde.org :) |
| 22:17.44 | annma | wow |
| 22:17.53 | dim | (allong with all other pko blogs, in fact) |
| 22:18.24 | dsafda | sredna yes, it was the prefix... -.-' |
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| 22:19.05 | sredna | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:23.39 | benjamindees | is konqueror supposed to be able to disable plugins on a per-site basis? |
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| 22:25.00 | sredna | benjamindees: Yes. In the configuration you can set a policy pr domaine |
| 22:25.22 | rabauke | on what occasions does kbuildsyscoca get called during KDE sessions? |
| 22:26.24 | benjamindees | sredna, it doesn't seem to work at all :( |
| 22:26.30 | benjamindees | sredna, but I'm on an old version, 3.3.2 |
| 22:26.54 | sredna | benjamindees: Really? It works fine for me, and did since a long time |
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| 22:27.19 | Telix | is it common for kdenetwork to fail make? |
| 22:27.32 | straw | nope |
| 22:27.33 | annma | what kdenetwork? |
| 22:27.39 | benjamindees | sredna, try www.time.gov for instance |
| 22:27.45 | annma | where do you get it from, Telix ? |
| 22:27.47 | Telix | it's a package that gentoo has for kde |
| 22:27.50 | sredna | benjamindees: Quite often objects are embedded by advertizing services though, and the policy for the host domaine isn't applied in those cases |
| 22:27.57 | annma | Telix: then ask in #gentoo |
| 22:28.17 | sredna | Telix: No, it's not common :-) |
| 22:28.25 | annma | Telix: KDE source are svn kde 3.5 branch for stable and it builds |
| 22:28.39 | annma | trunk on the other hand is another matter |
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| 22:29.25 | sredna | benjamindees: That page does not appear to load any plugins here |
| 22:29.42 | benjamindees | sredna, pick a timezone, it loads a plugin to show the time |
| 22:29.52 | Telix | it's not a prtage issue, so asking in gentoo is almost useless, it makes more sense to ask in a room that supports an interface dependant on the package specified, portage doesn't change how the program is made/built, only in which order it's done |
| 22:29.58 | sredna | Not here, benjamindees |
| 22:30.01 | sredna | Maybe java? |
| 22:30.26 | benjamindees | sredna, yeah it's java |
| 22:30.34 | sredna | No java here |
| 22:30.34 | annma | Telix: wrong, it might be a portage issue and a dependencie issue |
| 22:30.51 | annma | Telix: is it kde svn from kde 3.5 branch? or something else? |
| 22:31.04 | annma | Telix: it might also be a flag issue |
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| 22:31.25 | sredna | Telix: It's about impossible to fix problems with ebuilds, except by editing the ebuild file itself, which is not our buissness in here |
| 22:31.37 | annma | Telix: kde 3.5 from kde source is stable as no feature are added |
| 22:32.04 | sredna | Ah, now I got java |
| 22:32.10 | annma | for a start you post the last compiling line in a paste bin and the first error lines Telix |
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| 22:32.18 | Telix | all the ebuild does is run the make and configure for you in a specified order, it doesn't really change what the compiler does |
| 22:32.21 | sredna | benjamindees: Well, you can have pr domain policies for java as well |
| 22:32.38 | annma | Telix: see what i said, post the error in a paste bin, last compiling lines first |
| 22:32.51 | annma | Telix: you think wrong but post |
| 22:33.03 | sredna | Hm, beautifull map theme, maybe we shuould have something like that for kworldclock... |
| 22:33.08 | benjamindees | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91628 |
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| 22:33.12 | benjamindees | that looks like the bug |
| 22:33.15 | Telix | rebuilding it now, failed last night, waiting for error msg |
| 22:33.42 | annma | Telix: what kde version is it? |
| 22:33.55 | annma | we need at least that information |
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| 22:34.37 | Telix | 3.4.3 |
| 22:34.46 | annma | wow |
| 22:34.59 | Telix | kdenetwork 3.4.3 is the package thats failing |
| 22:35.02 | annma | did you build all of kdebase rior to kdenetwork? |
| 22:35.17 | annma | kdebase 3.4.3 |
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| 22:35.28 | annma | did you build it all and did it build? |
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| 22:35.36 | Telix | kdebase is that last thing gentoo builds, kdentwork is a dependency of kdebase |
| 22:35.41 | falso | hello sirs |
| 22:35.47 | annma | Telix: ??? |
| 22:35.50 | falso | can anyone help me with konqueror |
| 22:35.56 | Telix | kdebase isn't compiled yet, it's last, now it's failing on the build for kdenetwork |
| 22:35.57 | falso | im not able to get flash on konqueror |
| 22:36.20 | morteoh | falso: does it work in firefox/mozilla? |
| 22:36.20 | falso | every page i find it says to go to Settings -> Configure Konqueror |
| 22:36.20 | kakalto | how do I change konq's pop-up settings? |
| 22:36.20 | falso | and look for the PLUGINS thingy |
| 22:36.31 | annma | Telix: kdebase is LAST???? |
| 22:36.32 | falso | but i dont have any plugins choose |
| 22:36.34 | falso | but i dont have any plugins chooser |
| 22:36.38 | falso | morteoh, yes works on firefo |
| 22:36.38 | falso | morteoh, yes works on firefox |
| 22:36.41 | Telix | it has 10 other packages to merge before kdebase is compiled |
| 22:36.43 | annma | straw: don't you use gentoo as well? |
| 22:36.53 | falso | btw, konqueror 3.5 |
| 22:36.57 | morteoh | falso: it should work in konqueror then, x86 right? |
| 22:37.05 | Telix | same thing when you build gnome, gnome is that last package to merge |
| 22:37.07 | sredna | falso: Find the place where the flashplayer is installed and add that to konquerors plugin path |
| 22:37.14 | annma | merge? |
| 22:37.15 | falso | the problem is |
| 22:37.16 | falso | that |
| 22:37.25 | falso | on the configure konqueror |
| 22:37.31 | falso | there isnt any thing about PLUGINS |
| 22:37.35 | falso | i dont understand why |
| 22:37.39 | annma | Telix: then you can see that gentoo is VERY different from kde source |
| 22:37.40 | Telix | emerge, gentoo way of automaking and auto configuring tar.gz installations |
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| 22:37.54 | morteoh | falso: uhm, Settings -> Configure -> and choose Plugins all the way at the bottom? |
| 22:37.57 | annma | because some packages depend on kcontrol which is in kdebase |
| 22:37.58 | sredna | falso: Try scrolling the icon pane |
| 22:38.08 | annma | so kdebase being last is a bit silly |
| 22:38.13 | falso | the last one is performance |
| 22:38.18 | annma | we usually do kdelibs and hen kdebase |
| 22:38.23 | annma | and the rest |
| 22:38.27 | sredna | Or look in the control center, under internet & network->web browser |
| 22:38.33 | falso | sredna, i know how to scroll |
| 22:38.40 | falso | it simply isnt there |
| 22:38.41 | annma | we = kde devels for example |
| 22:38.49 | Telix | gentoo merges the same packages you download for any other distribution, it just automates the process, and it has the ability to tweak it when the package supports it, all of that is in the ebuild |
| 22:38.49 | falso | there isnt any plugins *tab* |
| 22:39.06 | annma | Telix: i speak about make |
| 22:39.10 | annma | and make install |
| 22:39.13 | morteoh | falso: what do you have at the bottom? |
| 22:39.18 | morteoh | falso: Performance? |
| 22:39.21 | annma | i don't knpw what your merge is, Telix |
| 22:39.22 | falso | yes |
| 22:39.22 | sredna | falso: Complain to your packager then |
| 22:39.38 | annma | we make install kdebase first after kdelibs usually |
| 22:39.38 | Telix | yea, when gentoos ebuild runs the make command for kdentwork 3.4.3, the make process fails, i'm about to have the error msg from it in a minute |
| 22:39.47 | morteoh | falso: and over that? Browser identification? probably something wrong with your kde-install |
| 22:39.58 | falso | yes browser identification |
| 22:40.04 | Telix | kdelibs is already merged |
| 22:40.04 | annma | Telix: and when configure fails, does it stop? |
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| 22:40.13 | kakalto | anyone+ |
| 22:40.15 | kakalto | L |
| 22:40.16 | kakalto | *? |
| 22:40.21 | sredna | falso: What is your OS or distro? |
| 22:40.26 | Telix | yes, the make stops, with an error, i'm about to have that error in aminute |
| 22:40.27 | annma | Telix: you cannot build any other kde module without kdelibs |
| 22:40.29 | PhilRod | falso: netscape plugin support requires motif. You probably don't have motif installed and/or your distro's packaging is broken |
| 22:40.38 | annma | Telix: what about configure |
| 22:40.39 | Telix | yea, kdelibs is already installed |
| 22:40.49 | falso | its gentoo linux |
| 22:40.54 | annma | did it go OK in kdenetwork? |
| 22:40.54 | falso | and i just installed konqueror |
| 22:41.01 | falso | not all kde |
| 22:41.05 | sredna | falso: Dont' do that. It's broken |
| 22:41.10 | falso | i just like kmail and konqueror |
| 22:41.12 | sredna | Install at least kdelibs and kdebase |
| 22:41.16 | Telix | ./configure is ok in kdenetwork configured fine, i'm waiting for make to fail now |
| 22:41.22 | falso | i have kdelibs |
| 22:41.26 | PhilRod | Telix: if you're building kde from a distro's build system and it doesn't work, it's a build system (not KDE) problem. You should ask in #yourdistro |
| 22:41.29 | annma | Telix: look at config.log meanwhile |
| 22:41.36 | PhilRod | falso: what sredna said |
| 22:42.16 | sredna | Well, installing kdebase will solve the problem. Gentoos attempt on splitting kdebase are broken |
| 22:42.42 | falso | ok |
| 22:42.45 | falso | ill try that out then |
| 22:42.46 | falso | thanks |
| 22:42.49 | kakalto | I use gentoo's split ebuild for kde fine |
| 22:42.58 | annma | yeah, right |
| 22:43.02 | sredna | Wow, one distro ships a broken kernel, others shreds kde into useless pieces... |
| 22:43.22 | sredna | U can't help loving that linux thing |
| 22:43.23 | kakalto | sredna, IMO, having 1000 programs you won't use isn't useful |
| 22:43.24 | sredna | ... |
| 22:43.31 | kakalto | lol. |
| 22:43.32 | Telix | every distro has it's perks and its pitfalls, i like portage, but hate keeping it working |
| 22:43.32 | straw | who ships a broken kernel? |
| 22:43.35 | annma | kakalto: kdebase IS useful |
| 22:43.42 | sredna | straw: Suse |
| 22:43.49 | XamDM | need help, using fedora core4 i installed kde-devel-packages but while trying to compile any kde-app i get error: confdefs.h missing |
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| 22:43.58 | straw | that's a drag... |
| 22:43.59 | kakalto | I, myself, prefer to simply dl & install all I need |
| 22:44.09 | PhilRod | XamDM: paste the whole output to a pasteboard and give us the link |
| 22:44.15 | kakalto | but even with split ebuilds, you can emerge kdebase-meta |
| 22:44.19 | Telix | portage handles all the installation for me...usually it's ez |
| 22:44.28 | sredna | kakalto: Well, in the case of kdebase you should prefer installing the whole thing |
| 22:44.33 | falso | im going to that then sir |
| 22:44.36 | falso | just one more thing |
| 22:44.45 | sredna | Afterall harddisk space isn't that expensive, and even with KDE your menus are editable |
| 22:44.47 | kakalto | sredna, I've had no problems without doing that :) |
| 22:44.52 | falso | sredna, is kmail in kdebase too? |
| 22:44.54 | straw | XamDM: try yum provides confdefs.h as root in a terminal |
| 22:44.57 | morteoh | falso: no, kdepim |
| 22:45.02 | falso | ok thanks |
| 22:45.14 | sredna | falso: Nope, kmail is in kdepim with a host of other very useful apps |
| 22:45.18 | annma | kakalto: maybe you have no problem but vast majority of splitted gentoo users have |
| 22:45.31 | kakalto | do they? |
| 22:45.33 | sredna | Such as korganizer, knode, kaddressbook & more |
| 22:45.37 | annma | just hang on there in this channel fro a few days |
| 22:45.45 | kakalto | okie |
| 22:45.48 | annma | kakalto: and do you use kde 3.4.3/ |
| 22:45.52 | kakalto | nope |
| 22:45.54 | kakalto | 3.5.0 |
| 22:46.04 | XamDM | straw: didn't find anything.. |
| 22:46.05 | kakalto | I wanted konq's adblock :P |
| 22:46.10 | annma | because that guy Telix has a kdenetwork build problem |
| 22:46.11 | straw | hm, one person can walk through a minefield and survive, while the next person may not |
| 22:46.21 | annma | straw: yes |
| 22:46.30 | kakalto | but I can't see the pop-up blocking options settings anywhere |
| 22:46.34 | kakalto | where are they? |
| 22:46.41 | straw | ahahahah |
| 22:46.46 | sredna | Well, you never get to try the full power of KDE without a full install of kdebase. I'd strongly recommedn that you add kdeutils, kdeadmin and kdepim at the very least. |
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| 22:46.53 | straw | no problems, eh kakalto |
| 22:46.58 | sredna | kakalto: In some atom you missed |
| 22:46.59 | kakalto | no problems at al. |
| 22:47.05 | sredna | :p |
| 22:47.06 | kakalto | xD |
| 22:47.13 | falso | i use fluxbox sredna |
| 22:47.14 | annma | lol |
| 22:47.20 | straw | except for the missing features... |
| 22:47.25 | annma | LOL |
| 22:47.29 | falso | the only kde apps i use are kmail and konqueror |
| 22:47.37 | falso | thats why i tried that splitted thingy |
| 22:47.44 | falso | but looks its isnt perfect yet |
| 22:47.49 | sredna | falso: Are you short on harddisk? |
| 22:47.53 | annma | falso: you can use only a few things but install the correct dependencies anyway |
| 22:47.53 | kakalto | have you asked in #gentoo, falso? |
| 22:48.05 | sredna | Because afaik blackbox doesn't automatically add apps to your menus |
| 22:48.21 | falso | i add them myself :-) |
| 22:48.21 | sredna | Hm, bed time. Good night :-) |
| 22:48.28 | falso | i dont use kde YET cause i have a old machine |
| 22:48.37 | falso | p3 600mhz 256mb of ram |
| 22:48.41 | kakalto | then again, I'm not having troubles, but I emerged kdebase-startkde, which is basically everything required for kde |
| 22:48.55 | dim | falso: i use kde on the very same range of old harware |
| 22:48.55 | falso | when i get a better machine ill start using kde as my desktop |
| 22:49.22 | dim | falso: if you start to use kde apps, please prefer kde env, the mem penalty will be far shorter |
| 22:49.47 | falso | one more thingy sir |
| 22:49.55 | kakalto | someone reccomended emerging kdebase? I have kdebase-data emerged... which I assume is all the required data? |
| 22:50.07 | falso | do you know if in a near future will be a konqueror for windows? |
| 22:50.12 | falso | that would be GREAT :-) |
| 22:50.21 | kakalto | well, qt4 is going to windows |
| 22:50.30 | falso | :-) nice |
| 22:50.39 | kakalto | I figure, if you're lucky, it might just happen :) |
| 22:50.42 | kakalto | long time off tho |
| 22:50.45 | falso | i really hate firefox and his memory leaks |
| 22:50.57 | kakalto | v1.5 isn't too bad with tha |
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| 22:51.11 | kakalto | they put some decent improvement into it |
| 22:51.22 | annma | Telix: so, that link? |
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| 22:52.12 | Set | I just found out something real cool |
| 22:52.42 | Set | if you put strawberries, ice cream and milk in a blender and let it blend, you get milkshake out of it O_o |
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| 22:52.56 | kakalto | uhm |
| 22:53.07 | kakalto | Set, hence my lunch for the last week :P |
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| 22:53.32 | kakalto | you can do it with bananas, too :) |
| 22:53.48 | Set | kakalto, wow. this is the best christmas gift ever :) |
| 22:54.03 | kakalto | there's not many better inventions :P |
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| 22:58.10 | kakalto | *sigh* |
| 22:58.31 | kakalto | "site requires netscape 7.1 or better" ~ I have it spoofing to that browser |
| 22:59.46 | kakalto | -_ |
| 22:59.47 | kakalto | - |
| 22:59.52 | kakalto | *-_-; |
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| 23:08.58 | uranther | why does kopete rename people to ICQ Email Express if you message people while they're away |
| 23:09.04 | annma | Telix: ping |
| 23:09.09 | DirkGently | at least you don't get gaps between tracks with windows media player |
| 23:09.41 | uranther | i have to delete all my settings in kopete to reset the name |
| 23:09.46 | uranther | nothing will work to change it |
| 23:10.10 | DirkGently | uranther: have you tried #kopete? |
| 23:10.22 | uranther | no |
| 23:10.23 | uranther | thanks |
| 23:10.28 | DirkGently | yw |
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| 23:26.29 | _sander | hi! i have a problem with german 'umlauten' and smb:// in konqueror. using smbclient or looking at a mounte samba share all umlauts are OK. but using smb://server/share all umlauts look like '?'. anyone? |
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| 23:29.19 | dim | _sander: it may be a locale problem |
| 23:29.32 | Tm_T | aye |
| 23:29.39 | dim | but with samba, you have to double check locales and codepages, iirc |
| 23:29.49 | Sho_ | _sander: KControl -> Internet & Network -> Local Network Browsing -> Windows Shares -> MS Windows encoding -> MS-8859-15 |
| 23:29.58 | Sho_ | err, ISO-8859-15 |
| 23:31.01 | _sander | unix charset = iso-8859-1, display charset = iso-8859-15, dos charset = 850 |
| 23:31.33 | dim | as Sho_ suppose your smb:/ charset is not properly set |
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| 23:32.03 | _sander | where can i set my smb:/ charset, isn't the one from smb.confused? |
| 23:32.15 | Sho_ | _sander: KControl -> Internet & Network -> Local Network Browsing -> Windows Shares -> MS Windows encoding -> ISO-8859-15 |
| 23:32.19 | Sho_ | As I just said. |
| 23:32.35 | _sander | Sho: thanks! |
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| 23:35.22 | _sander | Sho: I changed MS Windows ecoding from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-15. I still see strange symbols with smb://. Do have to restart KDE for changes to take effect |
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| 23:36.24 | Sho_ | _sander: Perhaps .. |
| 23:36.38 | _sander | ok.. brb |
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| 23:39.19 | _sander | hey, i restarted KDE with the new charset, but i still see strange symbols instead of umlauts. |
| 23:41.22 | DirkGently | _sander: how about 8859-1? |
| 23:42.11 | _sander | DirkGently: mmhh.. i'll give it try :-) |
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| 23:44.05 | _sander | DirkGently: no.. doesn't seem to make any difference.. are there any other settings that might be wrong? |
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| 23:44.23 | litb | i wish there were a ruler from which one could set the dpi of X |
| 23:44.36 | litb | then people wouldn't come and say font XY is too small/big! |
| 23:44.58 | litb | the ruler would be implemented in KDE, of course |
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| 23:48.25 | dim | an extended kruler then ? |
| 23:50.04 | kjetilho | kruler was nice, but the colour picker assumes click-to-focus, it seems. |
| 23:50.09 | _sander | maybe someone with working smb:// and umlauts can tell me what he/she has set as windows-encoding in kde control-center? |
| 23:52.27 | dim | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:52.50 | dim | is umlaut in the charset ? (man iso-8859-15) |
| 23:53.38 | kjetilho | umlauted aeu are in both ISO 8859-1 and -15 |
| 23:53.50 | kjetilho | (and "o of course) |
| 23:54.26 | Sho_ | (-15 adds support for the Euro symbol) |
| 23:54.32 | dim | oh ok (ä ë ü ö), yes |
| 23:54.44 | dim | i just didn't catch their names :) |
| 23:55.18 | kjetilho | sander__: first things first: what's the character set you are using in your Unix filenames which Samba serves? |
| 23:55.42 | sander__ | you mean _sander :) |
| 23:55.53 | drivamgr2006 | can someone teach me how to type those while I am typing? I used to use alt+<4 digit code> on windblows, but it don't work on here... |
| 23:55.56 | kjetilho | indeed :) |
| 23:56.22 | kjetilho | drivamgr2006: compose is simplest. try pressing AltGr+Shift, then release, then " a |
| 23:56.41 | dim | drivamgr2006: accentuated cars on qwerty mapping are obtained with a compose key |
| 23:56.45 | _sander | mmhh.. ok.. as i said.. umlauts are working with smbclient but not with konqueror and smb://.. so i guess it must be a KDE related problem/misconfiguration.. I have unix charset = iso-8859-1, display charset = iso-8859-15 and dos charset = 850 in my smb.conf |
| 23:56.46 | kjetilho | you can also bind the AltGr+Shift combination to a key, I use the Right Control |
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| 23:57.08 | kjetilho | _sander: and the filenames _are_ in ISO 8859-1 ? |
| 23:57.11 | drivamgr2006 | "a |
| 23:57.19 | drivamgr2006 | nope... first one doesnt work |
| 23:57.36 | dim | drivamgr2006: assign the compose action to a selected key, via control center |
| 23:57.40 | _sander | kjetilho: uhm.. how can i check that? |
| 23:58.06 | dim | then press compose, release, press ", release, press e, release |
| 23:58.52 | kjetilho | _sander: what does locale | grep LC_CTYPE say? |
| 23:59.33 | kjetilho | actually, "locale charmap" is better |
