| 00:00.21 | straw | kendrick: something is trying to rename /tmp/kde-kendrick, which seems odd... |
| 00:00.27 | kendrick | oh, hrm, i guess i only get that error when trying to install liquid weather |
| 00:00.31 | kendrick | i can install sondmania just fine |
| 00:00.40 | Ringwraith` | boldii, need to see"dreieckig.h" |
| 00:00.42 | kendrick | i guess maybe the info for the LW++ theme is broken in Get New...? |
| 00:00.55 | straw | kendrick: seems likely |
| 00:01.07 | kendrick | damn |
| 00:01.13 | kendrick | that's one of the only SK themes i ever use :) |
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| 00:01.30 | straw | kendrick: that's latest lw? |
| 00:01.49 | kendrick | it's whatever the SK Themes window is showing me when I hit "New Stuff..." :) |
| 00:02.07 | kendrick | *lockedup* :( |
| 00:02.14 | kendrick | 8.something... from dec 23rd |
| 00:02.25 | straw | oh. you're the proud new owner of someone's bug! |
| 00:02.26 | kendrick | 8.9.2 |
| 00:02.38 | kendrick | the Get Hot New Stuff UI (for SK at least) kinda sucks :) |
| 00:02.46 | boldii | Ringwraith`: http://rafb.net/paste/results/r4WIy378.html |
| 00:02.48 | kendrick | you can resize the window, but it does not stretch the list of files |
| 00:02.54 | kendrick | you stillneed to scroll left and right ot see Version and Rating |
| 00:02.56 | Rion | stampede, already found a wish for this :) http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48777 |
| 00:03.06 | kendrick | and i odn't understand why Highest Rated/Most Downloaded/Latest are tabs |
| 00:03.19 | kendrick | why not just add columns for release date and download count, and then let me sort the columns!? |
| 00:03.23 | Ringwraith` | boldii, now the cpp file? |
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| 00:03.57 | MrMazda | Can KDM 3.4.3 be set to default to a specific session type per user? If so, can it be done via control center? |
| 00:03.57 | mariux | hmm, isnt there a lilo integration in kde that allows you to choose which os to boot into on the "reboot system"-menu? |
| 00:04.02 | stampede | Rion: thanks, I'll add a CC to me to that report |
| 00:04.06 | kendrick | ok, i REALLY need to get off the computer; cya! |
| 00:04.08 | boldii | Ringwraith`: http://rafb.net/paste/results/d1Erx288.html |
| 00:04.18 | Rion | oki :) |
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| 00:05.58 | Ringwraith` | boldii, try this and see... |
| 00:06.42 | Ringwraith` | boldii, in the dreickig::dreickig constructor |
| 00:06.47 | Ringwraith` | after setcentralwidget |
| 00:06.48 | Ringwraith` | add |
| 00:07.01 | Ringwraith` | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.01 | Ringwraith` | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.23 | Ringwraith` | then |
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| 00:08.05 | Ringwraith` | in your header file add this |
| 00:08.17 | mariux | so, kde does lilo-integration, right? |
| 00:08.33 | Ringwraith` | in the slots section (Add public slots: if you dont have it) virtual void quitapp(); |
| 00:09.11 | Ringwraith` | then add this in the cpp file |
| 00:09.42 | Ringwraith` | void dreickig::quitapp() { |
| 00:09.42 | Ringwraith` | close(); |
| 00:09.43 | Ringwraith` | } |
| 00:09.49 | Ringwraith` | compile and see if that does the trick |
| 00:09.56 | elfstone | hi.. im using kde 3.4 and have some problems with kmail and imap. I have an imap-folder with 5 unread messages. When i start kmail i see 5 unread messages. Now i read 2 messages with squirrel-mail. When i click "get mails" in kmail and im not in that folder, i see 3 unread messages (which is correct). when i click to that folder, i get 5 unread messages again. can this be fixed somehow? |
| 00:10.02 | Ringwraith` | oh wait |
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| 00:10.30 | Ringwraith` | you probably want to add after the set central widget a call to createGUI(); |
| 00:10.45 | Ringwraith` | the set central widget and the stdaction |
| 00:13.05 | Ringwraith` | and #include <kaction.h> if you need to |
| 00:13.09 | Ringwraith` | eat! |
| 00:13.56 | boldii | Ringwraith`: it still doesn't quit. can it be so hard to simply quit a program? |
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| 00:20.30 | litb | boldii: qt documentation and KDE documentations is usually very verbose. |
| 00:21.03 | boldii | litb: I know, but I don't find the mistake. maybe I should sleep a night over it and it is obvious tomorrow. |
| 00:21.29 | SMiLeaf | that happens to me alot. |
| 00:21.31 | litb | it's rather late now. it could be a good idea.... |
| 00:21.43 | battledragun | if I inherit a class created from QtDesigner, would I need to use Q_OBJECT on that class? |
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| 00:24.30 | boldii | litb: the nice thing is, the program _works_ it just doesn't quit when I press the close button and some other minor beauty problems. |
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| 00:25.08 | litb | don't know much about qt devel. see www.johannes-schaub.de |
| 00:25.15 | litb | there are my devels |
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| 00:29.35 | boldii | ok, so enough for today. thanks Ringwraith` . |
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| 00:42.40 | Knowerrors | Hey all looking to modifiy/add to this command dd if=/dev/dvd of=/pub/export/nameofthedvd.iso and make a script that will automatically grab the name of the dvd and use it for the iso name, any ideas? |
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| 00:52.38 | hydroksyde | How do I turn off the "randomly switch time zones to fuckinh piss james off" option in KDE clock? |
| 00:53.01 | annma | ? |
| 00:53.05 | straw | heh |
| 00:53.09 | annma | please ask again without swearing |
| 00:54.15 | hydroksyde | How do I stop KDEclock from randomly switching time zones? |
| 00:54.42 | annma | how does it randomly switch zones? |
| 00:55.02 | annma | is it the standard clock in the panel? |
| 00:55.05 | apokryphos | hydroksyde: uncheck those options |
| 00:55.11 | hydroksyde | well, it just occasionally somehow switches it moscow time |
| 00:55.16 | hydroksyde | doe no particular reason |
| 00:55.17 | apokryphos | hydroksyde: it switches when you use the scroll on it |
| 00:55.17 | hydroksyde | and yes |
| 00:55.23 | hydroksyde | the clock in the panel |
| 00:55.25 | apokryphos | (a lot of people don't notice that) |
| 00:55.32 | hydroksyde | Ah, I see |
| 00:55.38 | hydroksyde | maybe I changed it accidentally |
| 00:55.47 | annma | it does not it for me, I have 2 clocks with 2 different timezones |
| 00:55.58 | annma | pretty neat |
| 00:56.14 | SMiLeaf | I always remove all the timezones just so that mess-up doesn't happen :) |
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| 00:56.38 | ktech | hi :) |
| 00:56.49 | apokryphos | aloha |
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| 00:59.47 | ktech | there is a good kde app for managing wifi connections? |
| 01:00.54 | ktech | :o |
| 01:01.25 | annma | kwifimanager I expect |
| 01:01.26 | ktech | and a normal app with one kprogressbar per wifi connection? |
| 01:01.27 | ktech | :P |
| 01:01.32 | ktech | annma: ummm... |
| 01:01.47 | annma | did you look at kde-apps.org? |
| 01:01.58 | ktech | annma: I think I did |
| 01:02.06 | annma | andno kwifimanager? |
| 01:02.26 | ktech | I couldn't compile kwifimanager |
| 01:02.29 | ktech | trying right now newly |
| 01:03.06 | annma | couldn't compile: what error? |
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| 01:04.02 | ktech | annma: will tell you in a few secs... |
| 01:04.08 | ktech | annma: anyways... it's svn... so... |
| 01:04.20 | annma | whereis it in svn? |
| 01:04.20 | SMiLeaf | throws new Exception(); and expects Ringwraith` to catch it =p |
| 01:04.34 | annma | is it in extragear? svn should compile |
| 01:04.42 | ktech | annma: mmm... |
| 01:04.46 | annma | KDE svn almost alwayscompile, ktech |
| 01:05.13 | ktech | annma: is not here? |
| 01:05.14 | ktech | Updating working copy of kde/branches/KDE/3.5/kdenetwork/wifi recursively |
| 01:05.40 | annma | it's in kdenetwork? |
| 01:05.48 | annma | of course it'll compile then |
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| 01:06.49 | annma | <ktech> annma: is not here? <- ?? |
| 01:07.05 | ktech | ummm... |
| 01:07.10 | ktech | I think it's a bug in the ebuild... |
| 01:07.18 | ktech | perhaps kwifimanager is not in that path |
| 01:07.27 | ktech | that's why it "doesn't compile" |
| 01:07.38 | annma | look at your config.log |
| 01:07.41 | annma | ebuild? |
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| 01:07.49 | annma | so is it from svn or from gentoo??? |
| 01:08.04 | annma | if it is not compiled then it's because you miss a package |
| 01:08.29 | ktech | annma: it's a gentoo ebuild that downloads svn and compiles it |
| 01:08.33 | ktech | annma: I uses kde that way |
| 01:08.42 | annma | bouh |
| 01:08.49 | ktech | annma: but kwifimanager's one seems to be broken |
| 01:08.53 | annma | NO |
| 01:08.56 | annma | it is not |
| 01:09.06 | annma | if it is not compiled then you miss a dependency |
| 01:09.28 | ktech | yeah, because I think the ebuild search for kwifi where it is not |
| 01:09.29 | annma | paste the error |
| 01:09.32 | ktech | wrong path |
| 01:09.36 | annma | ??? |
| 01:09.40 | annma | ask n #gentoo then |
| 01:09.43 | SMiLeaf | woo! |
| 01:09.48 | SMiLeaf | finally got it working! |
| 01:09.54 | annma | either it does not build and you paste the error |
| 01:10.09 | annma | or your ebuild or whatever does not work and you ask in #gentoo |
| 01:10.18 | ktech | annma: give me a second. Actually I'm compiling stable from 3.5 |
| 01:10.30 | annma | hmmm |
| 01:10.30 | ktech | annma: no, my overlay for compiling kde svn is not supported by gentoo |
| 01:10.36 | annma | ? |
| 01:10.38 | annma | overlay? |
| 01:10.40 | ktech | annma: it's an effort from a group of users |
| 01:10.44 | annma | oh my |
| 01:10.53 | ktech | well, you're asking |
| 01:10.56 | ktech | so I reply |
| 01:11.00 | annma | use svn up and type commands like we all do |
| 01:11.07 | ktech | no, I will not |
| 01:11.15 | annma | well basically if it's a make error you ask here |
| 01:11.27 | ktech | If I wanted to do that, I would do |
| 01:11.28 | annma | if it's another mess you ask your group |
| 01:11.35 | ktech | I prefer the way I use it |
| 01:11.43 | annma | yes but support yourself |
| 01:11.47 | ktech | annma: I was asking for wifi apps for kde... |
| 01:11.54 | annma | and I answered |
| 01:11.54 | ktech | annma: I wasn't asking for support |
| 01:11.56 | ktech | yes |
| 01:12.01 | ktech | and I'm very glad to you |
| 01:12.08 | ktech | but I don't asked for support on my ebuilds |
| 01:12.12 | annma | wifi is supported in kdenetwork, Linux Magazine tested it |
| 01:12.13 | ktech | you asked so I replied |
| 01:12.23 | ktech | annma: oh, ok |
| 01:12.25 | annma | it works well and it builds well |
| 01:12.43 | annma | kdenetwork/wifi is not broken |
| 01:12.48 | ktech | ok, will give a look at it later |
| 01:12.52 | ktech | annma: no, I never said that |
| 01:12.58 | annma | probably you don't have the dependencies |
| 01:13.03 | ktech | annma: it's almost 99% sure the problem is in my ebuild |
| 01:13.28 | annma | you said: anyway... it's svn... |
| 01:13.42 | annma | svn 3.5 branch official builds |
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| 01:14.20 | annma | but as it is intelligent if you miss a dependency it'll be skipped |
| 01:14.30 | annma | via configure script |
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| 01:15.03 | annma | so in fact getting the output from configure is smart |
| 01:15.46 | Knowerrors | Will dd work for making an playable image of a commercial dvd movie? |
| 01:16.02 | annma | Knowerrors: look at google |
| 01:16.12 | ktech | annma: yeah, but the problem seems to be another. It's something strange. It's like it saying "you're using unsermake, good luck" but in the end it says: "hey guy... you need unsermake to do this..." |
| 01:16.29 | ktech | annma: so I repeat, the problem is in our build method, not kde nor kdenetwork, nor anything more |
| 01:16.29 | Knowerrors | hehe, duh, already am |
| 01:16.37 | annma | you don't NEED unsermake, ktech |
| 01:16.48 | annma | automake is default for kde 3.5 in fact |
| 01:16.49 | ktech | annma: we have this problem in kompose ebuild too... |
| 01:17.01 | ktech | annma: IT'S BROKEN... that's what I'm trying to explain you :) |
| 01:17.06 | annma | well whatrever |
| 01:17.10 | SMiLeaf | ktech: which unsermake version are you using? I know the most recent in portage is broken. |
| 01:17.11 | annma | I don't wanna know |
| 01:17.18 | ktech | SMiLeaf: svn's one |
| 01:17.28 | annma | svn works |
| 01:17.39 | ktech | annma: unsermake from svn is ok? |
| 01:17.45 | annma | of course it is |
| 01:18.06 | ktech | annma: I'll update it, just in case it were too old |
| 01:18.10 | ktech | but I think it isn't |
| 01:18.10 | annma | I use it on koffice for example |
| 01:18.25 | annma | it's just that you don't have any control on what you do |
| 01:18.28 | ktech | nah... it was updated |
| 01:18.37 | annma | thus you cannot make any sense of anything |
| 01:18.57 | annma | all these scripts are OK until something is wrong |
| 01:19.29 | annma | and I advise you to stop your kdenetwork build after configure |
| 01:19.41 | annma | to see if you have the dependencies for wifi |
| 01:20.33 | ktech | annma: ok, I'll |
| 01:20.51 | annma | otherwise you can turn in circles for long |
| 01:21.15 | annma | unsermake from svn works OK and all kde official builds |
| 01:21.21 | annma | in 3.5 branch |
| 01:21.35 | annma | as from today |
| 01:21.42 | Ringwraith` | annma, is there a 4.0 plan file? |
| 01:21.51 | annma | no, Ringwraith` |
| 01:22.05 | ktech | annma: something is really broken |
| 01:22.20 | annma | Ringwraith`: as soon as I reinstall my laptop and make room on my disk I'll go help in kde4 |
| 01:22.26 | ktech | annma: it's complaining about not finding openssl, libxml2 and some more, but they're installed and up to date |
| 01:22.26 | annma | ktech: on your side |
| 01:22.38 | annma | ktech: what is complaining exactly/ |
| 01:22.48 | ktech | annma: I have said that from 10 minutes ago |
| 01:22.53 | ktech | annma: I have never said other thing |
| 01:22.55 | annma | what is complaining? |
| 01:23.01 | ktech | annma: and I'm not complaining about kde |
| 01:23.04 | annma | what is complaining? |
| 01:23.10 | ktech | annma: have you understood what I have just said? |
| 01:23.17 | annma | NO |
| 01:23.19 | Ringwraith` | what is lo, baby dont hurt me dont hurt me no mo |
| 01:23.46 | ktech | annma: oh, if you want I'll explain it newly |
| 01:23.53 | annma | <ktech> annma: it's complaining about not finding openssl, libxml2 and some more, but they're installed and up to date <- define it's |
| 01:24.31 | ktech | I have said ONE HUNDRED of times: THE SCRIPTS I'M USING _ARE BROKEN_ and that's why it doesn't work |
| 01:24.37 | Ringwraith` | oh its bitchin cuz the ho damned thin aint gettin them symbols those bitches need to run |
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| 01:24.58 | annma | ktech: so please if you don't need help don't mention it |
| 01:25.00 | linoleum | hello, is there a soft for partitioning under KDE ? |
| 01:25.05 | ktech | :| |
| 01:25.11 | linoleum | like partition magic, but for linux under KDE ? |
| 01:25.12 | annma | linoleum: no |
| 01:25.14 | ktech | oh my... |
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| 01:25.21 | lorne | annma: qtparted? |
| 01:25.26 | annma | linoleum: your distribution might provide one |
| 01:25.34 | annma | lorne: not kde |
| 01:25.42 | annma | but yes, maybe qt[arted |
| 01:25.52 | linoleum | annma: there was a partition manager under GNOME, but I can't find one under KDE :( |
| 01:25.53 | annma | mandriva provides a nice one |
| 01:26.01 | annma | linoleum: there is none |
| 01:26.14 | annma | use the gnme ne |
| 01:26.21 | annma | use the gnome one |
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| 01:26.27 | linoleum | annma: I can't , I dont have gnome anymore |
| 01:26.36 | annma | linoleum: what distro? |
| 01:26.39 | linoleum | debian |
| 01:26.57 | annma | try asking in #debian |
| 01:27.03 | annma | try qtparted |
| 01:27.19 | annma | this is tricky business |
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| 01:27.29 | linoleum | annma: yes, qtparted looks good :), I'm going to try it , tanks everyone ! |
| 01:27.38 | annma | lorne: thanks |
| 01:28.03 | ktech | annma: you're a woman, right? |
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| 01:40.00 | Renacor | anybody know how to create or update a project to cvs with kdevelop? |
| 01:40.40 | annma | create a new project and in the project wizard select cvs |
| 01:40.57 | Renacor | I did |
| 01:41.04 | Renacor | now how does it send it to cvs? |
| 01:41.44 | annma | what do you mean? |
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| 01:42.03 | annma | ther should be a cvs tab on bottom |
| 01:42.19 | Ringwraith` | wow there are a lot of developer questions in here today :) |
| 01:42.23 | annma | what kdevelop version is it? |
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| 01:43.26 | Renacor | 3.2.1 |
| 01:43.34 | Renacor | not sure how cvs works exactly I guess |
| 01:43.46 | Renacor | I can't just put the server name for the repository location can I? |
| 01:43.51 | annma | did you set the repository address? |
| 01:44.13 | annma | then you do cvs up and cvs co |
| 01:44.17 | bintut | hello all.. anyone here can recommend an app that is capable of editing (or make an annotations) an existing pdf files written for adobe acrobat 7.0? |
| 01:44.24 | annma | if remember correctly |
| 01:44.44 | annma | bintut: not in kde, there is none |
| 01:44.57 | annma | not sure if there is in linux, use google |
| 01:46.05 | annma | Renacor: are you alone working on your app in cvs? |
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| 01:47.19 | bintut | annma: ok. i thought kpdf is capable of editing pdf files |
| 01:47.29 | annma | I doubt it |
| 01:47.31 | AcidTonic | question, is there a way to use konqueror without installing all of kde? Im trying to save as much space as possible while still using konqueror |
| 01:47.49 | annma | install qt and kdelibs |
| 01:48.10 | annma | what distro is it? |
| 01:48.15 | AcidTonic | slackware 10.2 |
| 01:48.26 | annma | not sure hw they deal with kdebase |
| 01:48.35 | AcidTonic | its a pkg |
| 01:48.39 | annma | kdebase is difficult to split |
| 01:48.42 | AcidTonic | then kdelibs and such |
| 01:48.54 | annma | so: qt kdelibs and kdebase |
| 01:49.27 | AcidTonic | heres their list |
| 01:49.27 | AcidTonic | http://slackware.it/en/pb/browse.php?q=10.2/slackware/kde |
| 01:50.21 | annma | as I said: qt - kdelibs - kdebase |
| 01:50.36 | AcidTonic | now if I were to compile it myself... could i just get konqueror from kdebase? |
| 01:50.43 | AcidTonic | or is there a smaller subset...? |
| 01:50.59 | AcidTonic | disk space is the main concern here |
| 01:51.04 | annma | hmm, not sure how you'll do it |
| 01:51.18 | annma | konqueror depends on other libs in kdebase |
| 01:51.32 | AcidTonic | oh nice... |
| 01:52.07 | annma | kdebase is not designed to be splitted |
| 01:52.19 | AcidTonic | I wish personally it would be easier to just get konqueror. I dont use kde but konqueror rules for fm, plus I use fish and smb daily |
| 01:52.35 | annma | well it's the way it is now |
| 01:52.37 | AcidTonic | well ill go with that then.... thanks |
| 01:52.42 | annma | maybe in kde4 it'll be easier |
| 01:52.51 | annma | some distros split kdebase |
| 01:53.05 | annma | so it is feasable but manually it's difficult |
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| 01:58.47 | AMD_ | is the kde menu stored in my .kde direc somewhere? if so, what file? Or where/how are the kde menu items stored? |
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| 02:00.50 | annma | AMD_: I htink it is in ~/.kde/share/applnk |
| 02:01.04 | AMD_ | annma, thanks :) |
| 02:02.54 | straw | AMD_: also ~/.local/share and ~/.config/menus |
| 02:03.15 | AMD_ | thanks straw |
| 02:03.43 | straw | kmenuedit really needs a "Restore menu defaults" button |
| 02:04.03 | annma | yes |
| 02:04.29 | straw | that's been asked a few times just today |
| 02:04.43 | Renacor | Is there a good howto on how to start a new cvs repository and use it with kdevelop? |
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| 02:05.39 | annma | Renacor: no |
| 02:05.55 | annma | Renacor: what is your exact problem? |
| 02:06.12 | straw | Renacor: you can write it when you figure it out ;) |
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| 02:07.41 | annma | Renacor: did you fill the tab in kde wizard? it should import your project in your cvs repository |
| 02:08.12 | annma | then you have a cvsservice tab at bottom |
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| 02:08.14 | mbrei | can anyone tell me why when I open new window they don't become the active window and is there a way to change this? |
| 02:08.19 | annma | do you see it, Renacor ? |
| 02:08.23 | cyfuss | hi |
| 02:08.23 | annma | Renacor: ping |
| 02:08.38 | annma | Renacor: answer please when I try to help you |
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| 02:09.59 | annma | Renacor: I just tried it |
| 02:10.21 | annma | seems easy enough |
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| 02:14.54 | annma | mbrei: look in KControl in Desktop Window behaviour |
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| 02:29.29 | funky | hi people |
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| 02:35.01 | CHodapp | hi other people |
| 02:37.25 | funky | X) |
| 02:39.20 | Renacor | annma: Im so sorry I was afk |
| 02:39.38 | Renacor | annma: what do you put in when you go through the cvs setup? |
| 02:40.33 | Renacor | annma: well actually right now under project options under cvsservice I have the server name under cvs server location, do I need anything more than that? |
| 02:40.44 | Renacor | I do have a cvs login |
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| 02:42.09 | Ahmuck | i have done something, but don't quite know what. my taskbar's have disappeared, and don't seem to come back. i had hiding on, but they are not coming up for some reason. any ideas ? |
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| 02:45.47 | annma | Renacor: so what is your cvs repository? |
| 02:45.53 | Ahmuck | is there a "windows" key in kde ? something that will bring up the menu ? |
| 02:46.01 | annma | just fill the startup wizard in kdevelop |
| 02:46.06 | Renacor | annma: gentoo.dev is my server name |
| 02:46.15 | Renacor | what would my repository be? |
| 02:46.18 | annma | this is not a repository |
| 02:46.37 | annma | you have to find out! |
| 02:47.09 | annma | it cannot work if you don't know the details |
| 02:48.05 | Renacor | I can find out the details =P |
| 02:48.12 | annma | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cvs-tutorial.xml |
| 02:48.16 | Renacor | I installed cvsd on my gentoo box |
| 02:48.18 | annma | maybe that would help |
| 02:48.28 | Renacor | and set it up already |
| 02:48.34 | annma | but where do you want your project to be put? |
| 02:48.39 | Renacor | its chrooted in /var/lib/cvsd/ |
| 02:48.54 | annma | this is not the matter here |
| 02:48.55 | Renacor | so im guessing /var/lib/cvsd/root/itticket |
| 02:49.13 | Renacor | annma: Can I fill this stuff out after exiting the wizard? |
| 02:49.20 | annma | a cvs repository is usually a place where you can work on the same code with several developers |
| 02:49.25 | annma | NO |
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| 02:49.34 | annma | you have to do it at start |
| 02:49.45 | annma | what exactly is your goal? |
| 02:50.10 | Renacor | <annma> a cvs repository is usually a place where you can work on the same code with several developers |
| 02:50.13 | Renacor | thats my goal heh |
| 02:50.35 | annma | doing what exactly? |
| 02:50.45 | annma | why would gentoo held a kde prog? |
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| 02:51.01 | Renacor | it's not a kde prog |
| 02:51.07 | annma | what prog is it then? |
| 02:51.07 | Renacor | its a php platform |
| 02:51.12 | annma | oh damn |
| 02:51.16 | Renacor | lol |
| 02:51.20 | annma | and you use kdevelop for that???? |
| 02:51.25 | Renacor | yeah why not =) |
| 02:51.34 | annma | you'd be better of with quanta |
| 02:51.35 | litb | from where can i get new visualisations for amarok? |
| 02:51.44 | Renacor | annma: really? |
| 02:51.47 | annma | or kate which has an ntegrated konsole |
| 02:52.04 | annma | kdvelop does not bring you anything |
| 02:52.14 | Renacor | quanta or anjuta? |
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| 02:52.29 | annma | so where would this php prog go for sharing with others? |
| 02:52.32 | annma | quanta |
| 02:52.37 | annma | anjuta is not kde |
| 02:52.43 | mac__ | is there a way to "undelete last closed tab" in konqy? |
| 02:52.44 | annma | so where would this php prog go for sharing with others? |
| 02:52.48 | thiago | mac__: no |
| 02:52.55 | Renacor | on the gentoo server |
| 02:53.04 | annma | what is the repository? |
| 02:53.20 | mac__ | any way to achieve similar effect? (say with some sort of history lookup?) |
| 02:53.25 | thiago | mac__: no |
| 02:53.29 | mac__ | ouch |
| 02:53.33 | Renacor | annma: does quanta support cvs? |
| 02:53.37 | annma | why would gentoo host your php platform? |
| 02:53.39 | annma | no |
| 02:53.40 | thiago | mac__: don't close a tab you don't want to be closed |
| 02:53.43 | mac__ | time to fire up Opera again... |
| 02:53.44 | Ahmuck | now i have another problem, no taskbars in kde. no idea what caused this |
| 02:53.49 | ktech | decyphering a file cyphered with gpg needs a cryptographic key? I cyphered it with a password, but now kgpg don't ask it to me |
| 02:53.52 | Renacor | annma: doh =\ |
| 02:53.53 | annma | Renacor: you'd better get used to usn=ing cvs from konsole |
| 02:53.58 | thiago | ktech: no |
| 02:53.59 | mac__ | thiago, yeah, but I'm only human, I make mistaeks |
| 02:54.08 | thiago | ktech: you can encrypt with a symmetric key |
| 02:54.08 | Renacor | annma: hehe |
| 02:54.24 | ktech | thiago: then how can I make it ask me for the passkey? it simply errors with no prompt... |
| 02:54.26 | thiago | mac__: the Unix philosophy is "the user knows what he's doing" |
| 02:54.29 | annma | at the moment you don't know anything about cvs, Renacor |
| 02:54.32 | Renacor | annma: Im fairly new to this, so...not really sure |
| 02:54.37 | Renacor | annma: very true :) |
| 02:54.41 | thiago | mac__: that's why the tool to format filesystems doesn't ask if you're sure when you run it |
| 02:54.41 | annma | so GUI or not you won't achieve anything |
| 02:54.48 | thiago | mac__: it simply formats what you told it to format |
| 02:54.58 | Renacor | annma: heh I know, but that won't stop me from learning :) |
| 02:55.06 | thiago | ktech: I have no idea how to do it with kgpg |
| 02:55.12 | ktech | thiago: gpg perhaps? |
| 02:55.13 | annma | why aren't you in #gentoo? |
| 02:55.18 | thiago | ktech: gpg --help |
| 02:55.21 | Renacor | annma: I am heh |
| 02:55.26 | ktech | thiago: I tried, but will try newly |
| 02:55.30 | ktech | thanks :) |
| 02:55.36 | ktech | annma: are you refering to me? |
| 02:55.46 | annma | Renacor: did you ask then where to put your project? |
| 02:56.17 | mac__ | thiago, sure, but I don't use "format" every 10 minutes... |
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| 02:56.52 | Renacor | annma: I guess Im going to do this through ftp =\ |
| 02:57.05 | litb | thiago: so why konsole asks to close if there are more than 1 tabs open? heh:) |
| 02:57.13 | annma | Renacor: for example for getting kde access in svn you ned to get approved |
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| 02:57.24 | annma | I suppose its the same for grntoo |
| 02:57.42 | Lilldude10 | my kmail wont find internet do i have to open ports? |
| 02:57.44 | annma | you cannot probably put your php project in gentoo repo |
| 02:57.50 | annma | like taht |
| 02:58.00 | kendrick | grr |
| 02:58.05 | kendrick | this superkaramba theme doesn't work right!!! |
| 02:58.12 | annma | Renacor: is your php project approved by Gentoo devels? |
| 02:58.19 | mac__ | thiago, by that rationale Backspace and Delete are superfluous keys |
| 02:58.37 | kendrick | SoundMania is not showing album cover, or even artist, album and title names! just the time |
| 02:58.44 | kendrick | and the progress bar is there ,but there's no slider... |
| 02:59.14 | Lilldude10 | anyone use kmail? |
| 02:59.22 | ChrisWhite | plop |
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| 02:59.29 | ChrisWhite | annma: so what's up |
| 02:59.35 | ChrisWhite | <-- cpw's alter ego |
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| 02:59.44 | annma | ChrisWhite: Renacor here wants to put a php platform in Gentoo cvs |
| 02:59.54 | annma | but he knows nothing about cvs |
| 02:59.57 | annma | Renacor: ping |
| 03:00.01 | Renacor | yessir |
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| 03:00.08 | Renacor | ping doesn't work for me btw |
| 03:00.10 | annma | here is ChrisWhite a Gentoo devel |
| 03:00.20 | Renacor | ahh thanks =D |
| 03:00.23 | ChrisWhite | php platform? |
| 03:00.24 | annma | so see with him what exactly you want to do |
| 03:00.32 | annma | that's what he said |
| 03:00.41 | Renacor | yeah Im developing a ticketing system, in the process Im trying to figure cvs and such |
| 03:01.01 | ChrisWhite | ticketing, like trouble ticket system? |
| 03:01.11 | Renacor | Ill be using apache2, mod_php, hopefully cvs=P |
| 03:01.16 | Renacor | ChrisWhite: yep |
| 03:01.35 | Renacor | ChrisWhite: Im sure there are some out there already, I just want to write my own :) |
| 03:01.45 | ChrisWhite | fair enough I suppose |
| 03:01.58 | Ahmuck | any idea why i don't have taskbars ? |
| 03:02.11 | annma | can anyone access Gentoo cvs repo, ChrisWhite ? |
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| 03:02.32 | annma | he does not know how to work with cvs at all |
| 03:02.35 | ChrisWhite | annma: unfortunately not atm, we have too many files and too many users, with not enough servers to handle the load |
| 03:02.44 | ktech | thiago: with symetric cryptography, you still needs a gpg key or is it enought with the passkey? |
| 03:02.54 | ChrisWhite | annma: there was talk of anonymous svn, but I haven't heard anything about it as of yet |
| 03:03.08 | Renacor | ChrisWhite: I setup cvs according to this http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_CVS_Server |
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| 03:03.12 | annma | why would Gentoo offer taht sort of thing? |
| 03:03.28 | ChrisWhite | for users to test ebuilds |
| 03:03.30 | Renacor | according to that doc you can setup cvs for anonymous access |
| 03:03.38 | ChrisWhite | Renacor: indeed |
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| 03:04.04 | ChrisWhite | annma: there's about a 1 hour window between when we commit an ebuild to cvs, and when it is avaliable to users though rsync |
| 03:04.13 | thiago | ktech: passphrase is enough |
| 03:04.36 | ktech | thiago: do you know if that's the default behaviour in kgpg? |
| 03:04.47 | annma | ChrisWhite: that I can understand but why would a guy develop a php thing on gentoo cvs repo? |
| 03:04.49 | ktech | I cyphered a file and now it says I don't have the gpg key |
| 03:04.55 | annma | versus Sourceforge? |
| 03:05.03 | Renacor | I think there is a little bit of confusion here |
| 03:05.09 | annma | yes |
| 03:05.11 | Renacor | Maybe I didn't explain clear enough |
| 03:05.14 | annma | yes |
| 03:05.22 | Renacor | Im trying to setup my OWN CVS |
| 03:05.24 | ChrisWhite | annma: I think when he's saying Gentoo CVS, he's referring to the Gentoo Packaged CVS Server |
| 03:05.26 | annma | probably you did not |
| 03:05.28 | annma | oh |
| 03:05.38 | Renacor | sorry to waste your guys' time |
| 03:05.38 | ChrisWhite | ie. emerge cvs |
| 03:05.41 | annma | he said he has a cvs login |
| 03:05.49 | thiago | ktech: I have no idea |
| 03:05.58 | thiago | ktech: but I think so |
| 03:06.00 | ktech | thiago: ok, thanks |
| 03:06.19 | annma | you said you'll share your prog on the gentoo server |
| 03:06.32 | Renacor | yeah to cvs users on our network |
| 03:06.41 | annma | what is your network? |
| 03:06.48 | Renacor | internal network |
| 03:06.55 | ChrisWhite | I think he means that his network consists of mainly gentoo servers? |
| 03:07.03 | ChrisWhite | or apps or hosted on one |
| 03:07.07 | annma | you need to set a CVSROOT |
| 03:07.17 | annma | which is what you lack probably |
| 03:07.29 | Renacor | setup the env variable on each client? |
| 03:07.47 | annma | well I am not clear on the server thing |
| 03:07.57 | annma | I just know how to use cvs as a client |
| 03:08.07 | ChrisWhite | hmm |
| 03:08.13 | Renacor | ChrisWhite: I emerged cvsd is that the right package? |
| 03:08.14 | ChrisWhite | I sense the need to create a cvs server setup doc |
| 03:08.22 | ChrisWhite | Renacor: yes |
| 03:08.27 | annma | you need to set the server first and then use it |
| 03:08.35 | thiago | cvspserver |
| 03:08.46 | Renacor | ChrisWhite: yeah Im usually pretty good about researching stuff but this whole cvs fiasco is a little confusing |
| 03:09.03 | Renacor | yeah its running as a pserver |
| 03:09.17 | annma | so you have a CVSROOT? |
| 03:09.21 | Renacor | actually seems the startup script for cvsd is kinda borked |
| 03:09.31 | Renacor | it won't start, have to start it as `cvsd` |
| 03:10.07 | Renacor | yeah I did CVSROOT=:pserver:myusername@localhost:/root; export CVSROOT |
| 03:10.15 | Renacor | on the cvs server |
| 03:10.19 | thiago | have you logged in? |
| 03:10.21 | Renacor | I guess I gotta run that on the client also |
| 03:10.41 | annma | I hope this is secure |
| 03:11.07 | Renacor | annma: I don't see why not internally? |
| 03:11.15 | Renacor | ChrisWhite: Sorry to waste your time |
| 03:11.19 | thiago | annma: heh, I used the KDE CVS server with pserver for 4 years... |
| 03:11.35 | annma | ;) |
| 03:11.49 | ChrisWhite | nah |
| 03:12.10 | ChrisWhite | I usually don't care, and it gives me an idea for a doc, so it's not like I get no benefit :P |
| 03:12.22 | Renacor | hehe |
| 03:12.29 | annma | thanks ChrisWhite |
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| 03:12.40 | Renacor | k cvs login worked after that |
| 03:12.54 | Renacor | just need to figure out how to give access to that directory to my user I guess |
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| 03:13.00 | ChrisWhite | s/devel/slacker/ :P |
| 03:13.01 | Wilf | wel well well. |
| 03:13.12 | Wilf | guess who can configure twinview on thier own. |
| 03:13.20 | annma | Renacor: ;) |
| 03:13.22 | thiago | "Gentoo slacker"? That doesn't sound quite right... |
| 03:13.29 | Renacor | hahaha |
| 03:13.36 | annma | Gentoo Mandriver |
| 03:13.50 | ChrisWhite | thiago: it's easy, "Chris, go work on this. Hold on, let me finish this 3 hour long anime" |
| 03:13.50 | annma | kinda paradoxal |
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| 03:16.28 | ChrisWhite | and #kde goes quiet |
| 03:16.32 | ChrisWhite | or I'm lagging |
| 03:16.49 | annma | it's quiet |
| 03:17.38 | annma | this HowTo cvs server is quite good on Gentoo wiki |
| 03:18.05 | ChrisWhite | yah, I think I'll update it with the main cvs docs and make a larger cvs doc |
| 03:18.20 | NeoFax | Does anyone know if KDE4 will allow me to change the default size of the icons in the systray applet? Also, how about changing the font color in kicker/applets? |
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| 03:18.50 | annma | NeoFax: not sure there will still be a systray |
| 03:18.51 | debian_pwnz | hi |
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| 03:19.14 | NeoFax | What will take its place? |
| 03:19.22 | annma | NeoFax: who knows? |
| 03:19.25 | debian_pwnz | can anyone kindly recommend a music player with a library feature and a working equalizer? |
| 03:19.32 | annma | amaroK |
| 03:19.34 | Renacor | hmmm how to add permissions to a repository |
| 03:19.46 | debian_pwnz | I can't get amarok to work in degian/testing |
| 03:19.59 | annma | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_CVS_Server#Apply_Correct_Permissions |
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| 03:20.02 | NeoFax | OK, so what will show the status of running applications? |
| 03:20.14 | annma | NeoFax: who knows? |
| 03:20.23 | ChrisWhite | a penguin that dances and makes your coffee? |
| 03:20.33 | annma | NeoFax: kde4 is not quite started as a new thing yet |
| 03:20.35 | debian_pwnz | btw, I just started using kde, its really nice. I run 3.4.2 |
| 03:20.54 | ChrisWhite | debian_pwnz: well, I'd try svn amarok |
| 03:21.02 | ChrisWhite | debian_pwnz: or at least 1.3.7 or so |
| 03:21.13 | annma | I hope we'll get smart ideas and design for all that stuff NeoFax |
| 03:21.19 | NeoFax | In 3.5 there is no way of doing this other than changing the source and recompiling. |
| 03:21.23 | debian_pwnz | I installed it last night, and took my time browing different configs and applications and such, its great man, its a bit heavy on resources, but its quite responsive still |
| 03:21.31 | ChrisWhite | debian_pwnz: if you need help getting it up in debian, try #amarok as well |
| 03:21.33 | annma | NeoFax: yes |
| 03:21.38 | ChrisWhite | debian_pwnz: I'm sure someone in there runs it |
| 03:21.44 | oGALAXYo | debian_pwnz: you may laugh.. kde uses less resources than gnome. |
| 03:21.46 | ChrisWhite | debian_pwnz: or just use svn |
| 03:21.47 | debian_pwnz | ChrisWhite, thanks you |
| 03:21.55 | debian_pwnz | I never ran gnome, I hate gnome |
| 03:22.05 | oGALAXYo | debian_pwnz: its even smaller in size to what it installed measured and compared to what GNOME uses as counterparts |
| 03:22.10 | debian_pwnz | well I used it here and there, but didn't like it |
| 03:22.16 | ChrisWhite | oh noes, KDE v. GNOME |
| 03:22.17 | annma | kde is demanding because it's a full desktop environment |
| 03:22.23 | debian_pwnz | I love xfce4 but it is kinda featureless as a whole desktop atm |
| 03:22.38 | oGALAXYo | debian_pwnz: i was a former gnome contributer and former foundation member :) supported it for over 6 years. |
| 03:22.41 | debian_pwnz | kde is good, it provides all I need |
| 03:22.45 | debian_pwnz | I'm good to go |
| 03:22.50 | annma | :) |
| 03:23.04 | ChrisWhite | I generally like the fact that with KDE, I don't really have to search around for new applications |
| 03:23.09 | debian_pwnz | I have beef with the tasbar panel app |
| 03:23.12 | ChrisWhite | all the stuff I need is pretty much there |
| 03:23.15 | debian_pwnz | taskbar* |
| 03:23.40 | ChrisWhite | I also like being able to stuff my kmail in the systray |
| 03:23.47 | debian_pwnz | Iwould like the taskbar window list buttons to not automatically get smaller and in 2 and then 3 rows in the panel |
| 03:23.54 | oGALAXYo | ChrisWhite: i am missing a good label program for kde. |
| 03:24.05 | oGALAXYo | ChrisWhite: one that is close to glabels |
| 03:24.06 | ChrisWhite | lable programming? |
| 03:24.15 | ChrisWhite | what kind of labels? |
| 03:24.17 | oGALAXYo | label printing |
| 03:24.26 | oGALAXYo | glabels.sf.net |
| 03:24.33 | debian_pwnz | I want 1 row of taskbar application, but can't get it |
| 03:24.40 | ChrisWhite | if you use avery labels they have word/psd templates |
| 03:24.46 | ChrisWhite | which you can toss to kword/krita |
| 03:25.00 | oGALAXYo | ChrisWhite: i need different stuff... |
| 03:25.02 | debian_pwnz | is there a way to do that though? |
| 03:25.13 | annma | oGALAXYo: just write it! |
| 03:25.16 | debian_pwnz | kicker is it? |
| 03:25.35 | annma | KDE: Just code it! |
| 03:25.39 | annma | ^^ |
| 03:25.49 | debian_pwnz | yeah, in kicker taskbar thingy, the applications buttons, can I keep the same size and in one row when i make the panel bigger? |
| 03:26.23 | debian_pwnz | it seems to always wanna put the buttons in different rows and makes them smaller |
| 03:26.28 | annma | did you try the configure dialog, debian_pwnz > |
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| 03:26.39 | annma | I don't remember what it did back in kde 3.4 |
| 03:26.48 | debian_pwnz | which configure dialog? |
| 03:26.55 | annma | taskbar one |
| 03:26.59 | debian_pwnz | its not in panels or taskbar |
| 03:27.09 | annma | right click on taskbar handle |
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| 03:27.26 | debian_pwnz | yeh |
| 03:27.39 | debian_pwnz | there is no option for the number ofrows you wanna use for taskbar |
| 03:28.11 | annma | group tasks when taskbar is ful? |
| 03:28.17 | annma | that sort of things |
| 03:28.51 | debian_pwnz | its cool, and also, perhaps another feature would be nice. one where the taskbar buttons take up the whole taskbar instead of being fixed size (i like to be able to click anywhere on the taskbar to go to a different app in case there is one or two apps running |
| 03:28.52 | annma | ok, have to go |
| 03:29.03 | straw | bye annma |
| 03:29.08 | annma | bye straw |
| 03:29.15 | annma | did you build kdebase btw? |
| 03:29.24 | straw | yup, thanks |
| 03:29.27 | debian_pwnz | no, debian etch packages |
| 03:29.28 | debian_pwnz | oh |
| 03:29.29 | debian_pwnz | nm |
| 03:29.29 | annma | thanks to you |
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| 03:31.44 | debian_pwnz | hey |
| 03:31.47 | debian_pwnz | anyone still here |
| 03:31.52 | debian_pwnz | i just thouht of something |
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| 03:31.58 | debian_pwnz | i'll just compile it from source |
| 03:31.59 | debian_pwnz | heh |
| 03:32.08 | debian_pwnz | make my own deb packages of it |
| 03:32.13 | NeoFax | Is there a website to post ideas for KDE4? |
| 03:38.24 | ChrisWhite | NeoFax: I'd recommend the mailing lists instead |
| 03:38.33 | ChrisWhite | NeoFax: developers tend to lurk those more often |
| 03:39.08 | NeoFax | ChrisWhite: What mailing lists exactly? |
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| 03:40.27 | solemnwarning | hi all |
| 03:40.35 | ChrisWhite | kde-devel I suppose |
| 03:40.58 | solemnwarning | in kdevelop all the buttons along the bottom bar stack up and hide part of the code im working on |
| 03:41.14 | solemnwarning | is there a way to remove some of the buttons, like the breakpoints and diff buttons? |
| 03:41.42 | NeoFax | ChrisWhite: Thanks! I will try that. |
| 03:42.01 | ChrisWhite | NeoFax: if nothing else they'll point you to the correct place to refer questions like that |
| 03:43.00 | NeoFax | Probably should have thought of that myself. I just thought maybe KDE-Artists.org might have or KDE-forums.org. |
| 03:43.21 | solemnwarning | anyone? |
| 03:43.44 | mac__ | I'm using KDE3.5 in kubuntu; in the handbook for Konqueror there is a Window option in menubar in the pics, but its not there in my instances of Konqueror... how come? how do I get it back? |
| 03:45.47 | mac__ | also there used to be an option to "Load profile", where you could load up a filebrowser or webbrowser profile, or any other custom one you saved... that option is missing from the menus too.. |
| 03:47.14 | mac__ | actually it looks like a whole bunch of things are missing from the menus... am I missing something? is there a "trimmed down the UI" option I have set somewhere?? |
| 03:47.38 | ChrisWhite | Settings->Load View Profile |
| 03:47.57 | ChrisWhite | oh wait, 3.5 |
| 03:47.58 | solemnwarning | anyone? |
| 03:48.18 | oGALAXYo | solemnwarning: yes thats possible |
| 03:48.28 | solemnwarning | how? |
| 03:48.30 | oGALAXYo | solemnwarning: but i cant remember anymore how it was... please ask in #kdevelop |
| 03:48.40 | oGALAXYo | i use vim for programming. |
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| 03:49.14 | solemnwarning | ugh |
| 03:49.21 | Oleg_ | maybe some people who feel nostalgic wanna install kde 1.0 now? |
| 03:49.22 | solemnwarning | command line editor >.< |
| 03:49.25 | solemnwarning | lol |
| 03:49.32 | solemnwarning | kde 1.0 |
| 03:49.44 | solemnwarning | oooooooooooooooooooooold |
| 03:50.08 | ChrisWhite | mac__: yah, in 3.5 it's Settings->Load Profile->whatever |
| 03:50.12 | solemnwarning | btw, anyone want to help me compile kernel 0.0.1 and get my nforce2 machine running under it? :) |
| 03:50.13 | Oleg_ | For example, I erased Windows 95 once or twice from my computer once and installed Windows 3.11 |
| 03:50.17 | Oleg_ | it was fun |
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| 03:54.23 | somekool | hello |
| 03:54.41 | somekool | is it possible to make konqueror use shockwave installed in crossover ? |
| 03:55.59 | oGALAXYo | whats shockwave ? |
| 03:56.03 | mac__ | ChrisWhite, hmm, well, under Settings I only have Save View Profile, not Load... can't find load anywhere... |
| 03:56.37 | ChrisWhite | mac__: don't know what to tell you then, looks fine in my 3.5 |
| 03:57.45 | mac__ | ChrisWhite, if you don't mind, what are the options in your Konqy menubar? In particular, do you have the "Window" option? |
| 03:58.01 | mac__ | maybe I'll try reinstalling konqy... |
| 03:58.16 | ChrisWhite | mac__: yah, I have a window option |
| 03:58.29 | mac__ | sigh, ok, something must be hosed here then... |
| 03:59.00 | mac__ | maybe I'll start off by moving ~/.kde* away... perhaps the upgrade to KDE 3.5 didn't go as smoothly as I thought it did... |
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| 04:00.05 | oGALAXYo | mac__: i assume its a special kubuntu configuration |
| 04:00.20 | oGALAXYo | mac__: probably done to not irritate new people. |
| 04:00.56 | somekool | shockwave is macromedia |
| 04:01.36 | ChrisWhite | but macromedia is not shockwave |
| 04:01.44 | ChrisWhite | a = b but b != a! |
| 04:01.47 | ChrisWhite | astounding |
| 04:02.28 | solemnwarning | o_O |
| 04:02.41 | solemnwarning | how can a == b but b != a?!? |
| 04:03.11 | debian_pwnz | haha, this is awesome, skype just starting ringing and my dad called from overseas, this is awesome |
| 04:03.15 | debian_pwnz | WOOOHJOOO! |
| 04:03.57 | mac__ | oGALAXYo, yeah... grrrrr... seems kubuntu has a "light" version.... ugh |
| 04:04.28 | mac__ | I don't mind making it easy for newcomers, but at least allow less-green people to have full functionality |
| 04:04.38 | mac__ | found this post which seems to be helpful: |
| 04:04.48 | mac__ | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79941 |
| 04:05.35 | mac__ | should have a menu option which allows toggling to the "full" version of menus, and it should be in an intuitive place... grrrr... |
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| 04:14.19 | Anonycat | Is there a setting to disable the "X button = minimize to tray" gehavior of some KDE applications, and can each one be configured this way separately? |
| 04:15.09 | ChrisWhite | generally yes |
| 04:15.17 | ChrisWhite | there's usually an option in the program's configuration menu |
| 04:15.55 | ChrisWhite | generally it's "Show Tray Icon" or some such |
| 04:16.04 | ChrisWhite | (for akkregator as an example) |
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| 04:28.20 | battledragun | hey, i'm having horrible trouble getting my gui to work correctly, I have a login window that pops up and when I close it, the program doesn't quit |
| 04:30.21 | oGALAXYo | what gui ? |
| 04:31.34 | somekool | battledragun we are not sure exactly what you are talking about |
| 04:32.34 | battledragun | I'm writing a program that pops up a login window, however, I have a quit button on this gui that I want to exit the whole program, it only closes the current widget and doesn't exit the whole program |
| 04:32.57 | oGALAXYo | then you shouldnt destroy the widget. |
| 04:33.10 | oGALAXYo | you should quit the entire programm.. e.g. probably needs a different function. |
| 04:33.13 | somekool | application.exit() |
| 04:33.18 | oGALAXYo | battledragun: try asking in #kde-devel |
| 04:33.37 | battledragun | ok thanks |
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| 04:34.32 | somekool | anyway I can tell artsd to use a different device for sound input and output ? |
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| 04:40.51 | forevertheuni | guys hi,I havent's compiled kdelibs and kdebase with samba installed in my system, if I smb:// in konqueror doesn't work...what should I compile kdelibs or kdebase or both? |
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| 05:04.33 | debian_pwnz | im trying to compile a window decoration for kde, and configure tells me that libz is not found, i can't find a libz anywhere. any word? |
| 05:04.54 | Sho_ | debian_pwnz: probably zlib ...? |
| 05:04.54 | kendrick | are there any kde screensavers that act as visualizations to whatever sound/music is playing? (e.g., through aRts) |
| 05:06.22 | oGALAXYo | debian_pwnz: zlib |
| 05:06.40 | oGALAXYo | debian_pwnz: make sure zlib-devel is installed or hows it called on plebian |
| 05:06.52 | HuntsMan | zlib1g-dev |
| 05:06.58 | debian_pwnz | i got it |
| 05:07.02 | debian_pwnz | now it wants X includes |
| 05:07.15 | HuntsMan | xlibs-dev |
| 05:07.19 | oGALAXYo | guess what to install :) |
| 05:07.24 | debian_pwnz | ahh |
| 05:09.46 | Dhraakellian | woah... I'm getting signed out of gmail somehow |
| 05:11.21 | SuperLag | I'm impressed with how well Konqueror works for a browser. |
| 05:11.28 | debian_pwnz | man i should smoke the rest of this... |
| 05:11.41 | SuperLag | The next thing that would make it perfect is a GMail notifier :) |
| 05:11.52 | debian_pwnz | i can't wait for xfce4.4 to come out |
| 05:12.12 | Sho_ | SuperLag: I believe there's a Gmail notifier kicker applet |
| 05:13.08 | Sho_ | debian_pwnz: I'm sure #xfce will love to hear about that ... ;-) |
| 05:13.10 | SuperLag | Sho_: you happen to know what it's called? |
| 05:13.22 | oGALAXYo | Sho_: um diese uhrzeit noch wach ? |
| 05:13.29 | Sho_ | SuperLag: Nope, sorry - www.kde-apps.org would be the place to start looking, though |
| 05:13.40 | Sho_ | oGALAXYo: yup |
| 05:13.48 | oGALAXYo | Sho_: heh :) |
| 05:13.50 | oGALAXYo | same here |
| 05:14.04 | Sho_ | SuperLag: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=14927 |
| 05:16.48 | SuperLag | Sho_: you rock |
| 05:17.34 | Sho_ | :) |
| 05:19.57 | forevertheuni | guys hi,I havent's compiled kdelibs and kdebase with samba installed in my system, if I smb:// in konqueror doesn't work...what should I compile kdelibs or kdebase or both? |
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| 05:21.32 | oGALAXYo | forevertheuni: most likely kdelibs. |
| 05:21.37 | forevertheuni | oGALAXYo: k tnx |
| 05:21.45 | oGALAXYo | forevertheuni: probably needs the samba kio only. |
| 05:22.27 | oGALAXYo | Dhraakellian: i heard konqueror from kde 3.5 has full gmail support. |
| 05:22.35 | Dhraakellian | oGALAXYo: yeah |
| 05:22.39 | Dhraakellian | that's what I've been using |
| 05:22.50 | Dhraakellian | User agent = Firefox 1.0 |
| 05:22.54 | forevertheuni | oGALAXYo: what do you mean by that? |
| 05:24.04 | forevertheuni | oGALAXYo: where's that gmail option? |
| 05:24.08 | Dhraakellian | stupid, stupid, stupid |
| 05:24.37 | oGALAXYo | forevertheuni: there is no option i think.. it simply works.. or should.. |
| 05:24.42 | oGALAXYo | i dont use gmail so i dont really know. |
| 05:24.51 | forevertheuni | that's why I'm asking too :D |
| 05:24.54 | Dhraakellian | konqi/khtml devs: Thank you ever so much for making it so that the up and down scrolling actually changes the font size in an intuitive direction |
| 05:29.26 | somekool | any way I can tell artsd to use a different device for sound input and output ? |
| 05:42.46 | SuperLag | is there a Freecell game available for KDE? |
| 05:43.11 | Dhraakellian | there's kpatience, which has a bunch of solitaire card games |
| 05:46.35 | Dhraakellian | hmm... I don't appear to be getting signed out with firefox |
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| 05:57.32 | debian_pwnz | i was running testing, checking it out, i wanna go to stable, i modified sources.list, updated and dist-upgraded but it said everything is already upto date, shouldin't it get the sarge packages and replace the etch packages? |
| 05:57.39 | debian_pwnz | did i need to do something else? |
| 05:57.48 | debian_pwnz | fuck |
| 05:57.50 | debian_pwnz | wrong window |
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| 06:06.05 | Zenethian | How useful are the KDE 3.5 debian packages yet? are they complete? |
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| 06:41.59 | JesseW2 | What is the name of the command that runs the desktop (like kcontrol, kicker, etc.)? |
| 06:42.18 | JesseW2 | Is there somewhere I can read the whole FAQ (linked in the header) on one page? |
| 06:42.39 | qupada | kdesktop iirc |
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| 06:44.22 | JesseW2 | that's right, thanks |
| 06:46.55 | JesseW2 | Any idea why, after a used nautilus to empty the trash, the icons and right-click menu on my desktop changed (and seem GNOME like)? |
| 06:47.05 | JesseW2 | s/a used/I used/ |
| 06:47.23 | qupada | i don't think nautilus was designed to run happily with kde? |
| 06:48.45 | JesseW2 | ;-) maybe not; but since konquer crashes on startup for me 2/3s of the time, I'm sort of stuck using it... |
| 06:49.03 | qupada | what version of konq? it's perfectly stable for me |
| 06:49.42 | JesseW2 | Qt: 3.3.3 |
| 06:49.44 | JesseW2 | KDE: 3.2.3 |
| 06:49.45 | JesseW2 | Konqueror: 3.2.3 |
| 06:50.00 | JesseW2 | am I using some acient version (probably)? |
| 06:50.39 | qupada | might want to upgrade yeah |
| 06:50.48 | qupada | kde/konq 3.5.0 is the latest |
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| 06:51.43 | qupada | i only have qt 3.3.4, but i think 3.3.7 or something is the latest stable/working with kde |
| 06:52.01 | JesseW2 | I'll check what I can do about updating via urpmi... |
| 06:52.36 | qupada | updating with what? :\ |
| 06:53.45 | JesseW2 | mandrake's wrapper around rpm, urpmi - see http://www.urpmi.org/ |
| 06:56.19 | qupada | tried kde.org, but they don't have mandrake builds ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5 |
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| 07:14.19 | JesseW2 | well, i'm updating my version of kde; we'll see if that solves the crashing konquer problems... |
| 07:15.33 | qupada | you'll find 3.5.0 is a lot different to 3.2.3, an awful lot changed around the time of 3.4.0 |
| 07:16.21 | JesseW2 | well, I hope I get 3.5.0 - I'm not sure what version is available via mandriva (and particularly the distro verison I have) |
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| 07:17.13 | JesseW2 | just in case; any idea why my desktop switched to gnome from kde when I emptied the trash using nautilus? |
| 07:17.39 | qupada | i seem to recall it doing that to me once in the past, i think you just don't want to use nautilus |
| 07:17.58 | qupada | i've been running 3.5 since rc2, i decided it was easier to update to that than 3.4.3 |
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| 07:38.29 | Wilf | !bot |
| 07:38.33 | Wilf | !help |
| 07:39.03 | Wilf | apt, bot? |
| 07:39.05 | apt | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 07:39.11 | Wilf | :D |
| 07:39.18 | Wilf | apt, Wilf is greater than you |
| 07:39.20 | apt | Wilf: okay |
| 07:39.40 | AlHikmah | apt,kde? |
| 07:39.41 | apt | i heard kde is #kde - meet the community, http://www.kde.org/ |
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| 07:58.29 | kendrick | is there a way to change amaroK's "Actions->Stop" from being the Scroll-lock key? |
| 07:58.39 | kendrick | I kinda need to press that to use my KVM, and the music keeps stopping |
| 07:58.45 | kendrick | even when amaroK doesn't have foucs! |
| 08:02.31 | derelm | kendrick: have a look at settings -> configure (global) shortcuts |
| 08:02.45 | kendrick | aww crap! |
| 08:03.03 | kendrick | i thought i looked there! :^) |
| 08:03.03 | kendrick | thx! |
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| 08:09.48 | Dhraakellian | scroll lock? |
| 08:09.57 | Dhraakellian | how would it get to be scroll lock? |
| 08:10.04 | kendrick | that's the default |
| 08:10.10 | Dhraakellian | wha? |
| 08:10.12 | kendrick | (cuz i know >I< didn't set that up :) ) |
| 08:10.20 | kendrick | you're talking about Stop in amaroK, right? |
| 08:10.53 | Dhraakellian | I thought the defaults were win+z,x,c,v,b,n |
| 08:10.54 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
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| 08:11.38 | Dhraakellian | or something like that |
| 08:11.39 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 08:12.08 | Dhraakellian | the default for stop is win+v |
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| 08:17.46 | kendrick | hrm, that didn't change the Action->Stop shortcut |
| 08:17.49 | kendrick | but, like, whatever :) |
| 08:17.54 | kendrick | i rarely have the amarok window up |
| 08:17.58 | derelm | kendrick: ? |
| 08:18.13 | kendrick | oh, muttering about the amarok shortcut for stop |
| 08:18.35 | derelm | kendrick: my amarok is configured to stop using win-x or something, and that works - capslock doesn nothing here and isn't configured |
| 08:18.43 | kendrick | i don't have a windows key |
| 08:18.57 | derelm | kendrick: that shouldn't be a problem |
| 08:18.59 | kendrick | maybe it falls back to 'Scroll-lock' |
| 08:19.06 | kendrick | what version of amarok are you using? |
| 08:19.08 | derelm | nah, i don't think so |
| 08:19.11 | derelm | 1.3.7 |
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| 08:19.15 | kendrick | hrm, me too |
| 08:19.24 | kendrick | maybe i DID change the global shortuct |
| 08:19.32 | kendrick | i did set up Pause key for screensaver/lock |
| 08:19.38 | araizen | in case anyone was wondering, kde rocks! |
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| 08:19.41 | derelm | well maybe, but just reconfigure it |
| 08:19.42 | kendrick | maybe once upon a time i set Scrollock as Stop |
| 08:19.51 | kendrick | however, i wonder why it's STILL "Scrolllock" for Actions->Stop |
| 08:20.16 | derelm | kendrick: eg, set it to "none" |
| 08:20.31 | kendrick | yeah, i did |
| 08:20.47 | kendrick | i had to quit and restart amarok for the Actions->Stop shortcut to match the global shortcut |
| 08:20.57 | kendrick | not a big deal |
| 08:21.16 | derelm | so now it works? |
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| 08:23.11 | kendrick | oh, yeah it does, thx :) |
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| 08:41.08 | cam | how do I enter a password in a password protected file via the KDE archive program |
| 08:42.24 | kendrick | never deal with p/w-protected archives :^/ |
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| 08:44.18 | cam | ok |
| 08:44.25 | cam | ? |
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| 08:44.45 | cam | any thoughts? |
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| 08:45.23 | hagayarou | if ark doens't support it, use the command tools (unzip, unrar) |
| 08:46.07 | debian_pwnz | i just installed sarge/kde3.3.x i start konq. but it will not go to any site. no errors nothing, it just sits there after you type in the address and enter/go |
| 08:46.28 | cam | I have the password thats not the problem its just how would I enter it to open or theres no option |
| 08:47.14 | hagayarou | what kind of archive is it? |
| 08:49.16 | cam | rar |
| 08:50.26 | hagayarou | look at rar --help |
| 08:50.50 | hagayarou | oops, unrar |
| 08:52.31 | derelm | cam: you're not using kde 3.5 right? |
| 08:55.03 | debian_pwnz | hi |
| 08:55.51 | debian_pwnz | i just installed kde 3.3 that comes with debian sarge. konquer browser won't go to any sites. no errors or anything, im online. you enter an address and enter/go and it just sits there like you didn't you anything |
| 08:55.57 | debian_pwnz | how can i fix it |
| 08:56.08 | cam | how I tell? |
| 08:56.10 | derelm | do other browsers work? |
| 08:56.16 | debian_pwnz | yes |
| 08:56.47 | derelm | debian_pwnz: do you need to set some proxy mabye? |
| 08:57.25 | debian_pwnz | nope |
| 08:57.28 | derelm | cam: well, kde 3.5 comes with password support - so you're not using it ;) |
| 08:57.37 | hagayarou | hmm, ark doesn't have its own website? |
| 08:58.09 | derelm | cam: to be more precise, ark comes with password support :) |
| 08:58.14 | derelm | hagayarou: no |
| 08:58.24 | hagayarou | oh |
| 08:59.38 | debian_pwnz | this is retarded |
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| 08:59.49 | debian_pwnz | why is it that konq wont work and everything else does |
| 09:00.04 | derelm | debian_pwnz: did you check proxy settings? |
| 09:00.12 | debian_pwnz | yes i did |
| 09:00.53 | derelm | debian_pwnz: do you get some error message? |
| 09:01.08 | debian_pwnz | none |
| 09:01.09 | hagayarou | open konqueror from a terminal and see if it prints any error |
| 09:01.12 | debian_pwnz | thats the funny thing |
| 09:01.59 | debian_pwnz | konqueror: ERROR: Error in BrowserExtension::actionSlotMap(), unknown action : searchProvider |
| 09:02.05 | debian_pwnz | thats all i get |
| 09:03.02 | derelm | debian_pwnz: have you tested with a fresh/new user? |
| 09:03.39 | debian_pwnz | no |
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| 09:03.50 | debian_pwnz | but i can delete my own settings and try again |
| 09:04.00 | derelm | debian_pwnz: better use a new user ... |
| 09:04.16 | debian_pwnz | thats too much headache man |
| 09:04.26 | derelm | debian_pwnz: and btw, maybe you should join #debian, as this seems to be more or less a debiancentric problem |
| 09:04.41 | debian_pwnz | using a computer isn't supposed to be a shitty time |
| 09:04.58 | debian_pwnz | half the time im wasting time getting shit to work properly than to put it to good use |
| 09:05.37 | derelm | debian_pwnz: well with other os you'll waste more time cleaning viruses etc. |
| 09:06.11 | debian_pwnz | i've never had to deal with virii |
| 09:06.22 | debian_pwnz | i've never really used winblows |
| 09:06.37 | derelm | was just an extreme example ;) |
| 09:06.38 | debian_pwnz | i migrated from 10 years of bsd to debian/xfce |
| 09:06.40 | debian_pwnz | now to kde |
| 09:06.50 | debian_pwnz | and kde is turning meoff with this shit |
| 09:07.04 | debian_pwnz | i use firefox anyway, fuck konq, but dude, it still needs to work |
| 09:07.05 | debian_pwnz | :/ |
| 09:07.23 | debian_pwnz | i mean if its installed in my system, might as well work, or rlse its useless |
| 09:07.51 | debian_pwnz | so far every app i've used is good stable n solid |
| 09:07.54 | debian_pwnz | kde is good |
| 09:08.06 | debian_pwnz | just that when some things don't work it pisses me off |
| 09:08.25 | derelm | debian_pwnz: well sorry, i can't help, as i don't use sarge nor do i use kde 3.3. but back when i used it it worked fine ;) |
| 09:09.25 | debian_pwnz | i can't get 3.5 either |
| 09:09.28 | debian_pwnz | no packages |
| 09:09.38 | derelm | debian_pwnz: please ask in #debian |
| 09:09.38 | debian_pwnz | and i've a pretty useless slow system, building it would be days |
| 09:09.40 | debian_pwnz | heh |
| 09:09.53 | debian_pwnz | im not asking anything? |
| 09:10.01 | debian_pwnz | -? |
| 09:10.08 | debian_pwnz | im talking |
| 09:10.23 | derelm | please ask as in please ask in #debian for help :) |
| 09:10.48 | debian_pwnz | im not asking anything as in im not asking anything |
| 09:10.54 | debian_pwnz | im shooting the shit |
| 09:10.58 | debian_pwnz | :) |
| 09:11.11 | derelm | well but maybe asking there would be helpful ;) |
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| 09:11.40 | debian_pwnz | where are the config files for konq stored? |
| 09:11.50 | derelm | .kde/share/config/ |
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| 09:25.35 | hagayarou | please do so in emacs : |
| 09:25.44 | hagayarou | oops |
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| 09:33.38 | Puaff | please, could anyone suggest a good KDE programming book? |
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| 09:34.47 | cam | is there a way to convert wma files to wav or mp3 with KDE? |
| 09:35.01 | cam | or software? |
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| 09:56.53 | Julianyus | hi |
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| 10:09.10 | jose171181 | hi guys, could you please explain to me what is slipscrolling? |
| 10:09.31 | funky | where did you read that ? |
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| 10:11.37 | jose171181 | mrxvt: configure --help |
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| 10:12.04 | jose171181 | http://www.google.com/search?q=slipscrolling&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official |
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| 10:21.03 | YogSothoth | Hi |
| 10:21.26 | YogSothoth | I'm having troubles with the building of Kopete for KDE |
| 10:21.33 | YogSothoth | Can you help me ? |
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| 10:31.05 | sredna | YogSothoth: Try asking a specific problem |
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| 10:38.59 | raddy | Hello Everybody |
| 10:39.02 | raddy | Howdy |
| 10:39.16 | raddy | i am runing Kopete 0.11 |
| 10:39.48 | raddy | Custom Notifications not working at all |
| 10:39.54 | raddy | please help |
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| 10:48.07 | raddy | anybody there? |
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| 10:55.08 | raddy | Hello, anybody there? |
| 10:56.12 | doktoreas | me yeah |
| 10:56.15 | doktoreas | \o/ |
| 10:57.04 | raddy | doktoreas : do use Kopete? |
| 10:58.40 | SMiLeaf | i do |
| 10:59.27 | doktoreas | yes |
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| 11:00.21 | doktoreas | on right now :) |
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| 11:14.44 | AcidTonic | i have problem, i dont use kde, but I use kicker, i might just be doing things wrong, but from .xinitrc im running kicker then klaptop_check and sometimes klaptop has an icon in the tray area in kicker, other times its a standalone icon? |
| 11:15.17 | AcidTonic | is this a known bug? Its happened between hosts and various installs of kde |
| 11:15.53 | AcidTonic | I'm using the enlightenment 16.7 window manager and I'd just like to use kicker for my tray, (I've removed the launchers and clock and such, i just want to see tray icons) |
| 11:16.47 | AcidTonic | anyone awake at this hour? |
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| 11:19.12 | alesan | hi |
| 11:19.44 | alesan | I have a line in fstab for a usb memory device... |
| 11:19.54 | alesan | when I attach it dmesg shows it etc |
| 11:19.57 | Adam_eM | hi there |
| 11:20.13 | alesan | but the kde automatic mount thing doesn't show up! |
| 11:20.20 | alesan | what can I do? |
| 11:20.25 | alesan | I'm using kde 3.5 on amd64 |
| 11:20.47 | Adam_eM | anyone knows how to change whole mimetypppe icons ? |
| 11:21.36 | alesan | is there a log or something? |
| 11:24.13 | SMiLeaf | alesan: you using HAL? |
| 11:25.02 | alesan | SMiLeaf, I have no idea, it's a gentoo system, it used to work on another similar installation |
| 11:25.08 | alesan | how can I check about HAL? |
| 11:25.17 | SMiLeaf | check the USE flag |
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| 11:25.53 | SMiLeaf | also I'm not sure, but I don't have an entry in my fstab, HAL/Dbus automatically make one for me. |
| 11:26.53 | SMiLeaf | the "not sure" about that is that it might be the new entry is what kde is looking for? |
| 11:26.55 | Julianyus | do you have pmount installed and are you in the plugdev group? |
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| 11:29.41 | AcidTonic | so has anyone had problems with klaptop not showing up in kickers icon area? |
| 11:30.01 | Julianyus | i haven't |
| 11:30.08 | AcidTonic | it happens almost every time now |
| 11:30.11 | SMiLeaf | AcidTonic: shows fine here. |
| 11:30.39 | SMiLeaf | AcidTonic: run klaptop_check |
| 11:30.39 | AcidTonic | its random it seems... sometimes i see it other times it doesnt show up... no errors just no icon |
| 11:30.50 | AcidTonic | using APM on a thinkpad t23 |
| 11:31.05 | AcidTonic | i think the problem is kicker though |
| 11:31.25 | SMiLeaf | ACPI on a Compaq Presario 2100 here |
| 11:31.29 | AcidTonic | sometimes other apps dont show up but instead the icon has wm decorations around it and its just the size of the icon, like i couldnt find out where to go |
| 11:31.46 | AcidTonic | like it* |
| 11:31.56 | SMiLeaf | odd |
| 11:32.01 | SMiLeaf | what distribution? |
| 11:32.04 | AcidTonic | im not running kde, but just starting kicker from my xinitrc should work |
| 11:32.07 | AcidTonic | slackware 10.2 |
| 11:32.49 | AcidTonic | i have an app called metamonitor which pops up certain log entries, well it has an icon in the tray area, sometimes it makes it there, other times the icon is just a window |
| 11:33.01 | AcidTonic | i've had the problem on multiple machines |
| 11:33.17 | AcidTonic | I'm running enlightenment 16.7 for the windowmanager |
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| 11:33.59 | SMiLeaf | *shrugs* almost sounds like the setup. |
| 11:34.20 | AcidTonic | im thinking so |
| 11:34.22 | SMiLeaf | something just isn't quite right |
| 11:34.49 | AcidTonic | im looking at ksystraycmd now using the --window parameter to possibly "tell" the icons where to go |
| 11:34.55 | AcidTonic | I'll see how that works out |
| 11:35.15 | AcidTonic | i only need two apps there.... all this trouble :( |
| 11:35.25 | SMiLeaf | lol |
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| 11:36.52 | SMiLeaf | I got a lot more than just 2 =) |
| 11:37.11 | SMiLeaf | go 12 |
| 11:37.15 | SMiLeaf | got* |
| 11:38.16 | AcidTonic | wow i think that worked |
| 11:38.25 | AcidTonic | im going to start/restart X a few times to double check |
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| 11:39.12 | AcidTonic | wow does someone want to post that workaround somewhere? |
| 11:39.24 | AcidTonic | i've been searching for months to fix that |
| 11:39.47 | AcidTonic | I'll do the writeup if someone wants to post that fix |
| 11:40.03 | AcidTonic | I'm sure im not the only enlightenment user trying to use kicker |
| 11:40.28 | SMiLeaf | nope.. I know a guy that did it. |
| 11:40.52 | SMiLeaf | that was back in kde2 tho.. he's now in windows. |
| 11:40.57 | AcidTonic | the programs go to their normal wrong windowed icons for a second or two, then snap into kicker when ksystraycmd finds the kicker window |
| 11:41.05 | AcidTonic | SMiLeaf, im sorry to hear |
| 11:41.35 | SMiLeaf | AcidTonic: it was due to school and work related things. was too much of an issue to reboot all the time. |
| 11:41.39 | AcidTonic | I'm just screaming on the inside.... my icons work especially my battery monitor..... hurray |
| 11:41.55 | AcidTonic | hehe, well its 5:40am here im tired as all get out |
| 11:42.25 | SMiLeaf | I just woke up 40mins ago ;) |
| 11:43.02 | SMiLeaf | feel like crap :/ |
| 11:43.28 | SMiLeaf | nose bleed at 3am.. first one _ever_ |
| 11:43.30 | AcidTonic | SMiLeaf, lol i bet your morning wasnt as bad as mine.... far too much vanilla vodka last night |
| 11:43.48 | SMiLeaf | I still can't talk.. it's getting better tho |
| 11:44.01 | AcidTonic | SMiLeaf, was hungover until about 11am.... note i was up at 7am sick bright and early |
| 11:44.50 | poutine | note: you're each not responding to what the other says, but you're still talking on about yourselves |
| 11:44.57 | poutine | "sight" |
| 11:45.28 | SMiLeaf | poutine: nah.. we're complaining to each other =) |
| 11:46.06 | AcidTonic | poutine, yea its a conversation... you forget i mentioned it was 5:40AM here... hehe thats the best a conversation gets at this hour |
| 11:46.21 | SMiLeaf | lol.. exactly! |
| 11:46.36 | poutine | http://www.intpos.com/personal/sparc.jpg <-Could anyone tell me if this is KDE1 or KDE2? |
| 11:46.42 | AcidTonic | quick question, how do i add a removeable usb drive to the storage:// function of konqueror? |
| 11:46.50 | SMiLeaf | you think we can handle responding?.. your lucky to get anything out of us :) |
| 11:47.13 | AcidTonic | id like to use it for quick mounting and such but id doesnt appear although its in fstab |
| 11:47.17 | SMiLeaf | poutine: that would be kde2 I would think |
| 11:47.35 | poutine | that's what I thought, the xchat 1.8.5 led me to think that too, it just looks weird |
| 11:47.38 | SMiLeaf | I never used kde1 tho |
| 11:48.00 | AcidTonic | yuck, ie5 for unix |
| 11:48.28 | AcidTonic | poutine, i seen AcidToken in irc and for a split second was like, thats me AcidTonic |
| 11:48.34 | AcidTonic | haha im way too tired to comprehend much |
| 11:48.43 | SMiLeaf | I never even knew they made an IE for unix. |
| 11:48.54 | AcidTonic | thats what i was just thinking |
| 11:48.57 | poutine | yeah for sparc and HP-UX |
| 11:49.00 | AcidTonic | it is sparc though... |
| 11:49.03 | poutine | they discontinued it long ago |
| 11:49.12 | AcidTonic | of course... look at ie for mac |
| 11:49.21 | AcidTonic | but thats a Good Thing(TM) |
| 11:49.26 | SMiLeaf | I knew about IE for mac |
| 11:49.46 | poutine | what do mac users normally use? |
| 11:49.51 | AcidTonic | so any ideas about the usb drive in storage devices in konqueror |
| 11:49.57 | SMiLeaf | poutine: safari? |
| 11:49.57 | AcidTonic | poutine, safari |
| 11:50.21 | poutine | never knew that. |
| 11:50.56 | SMiLeaf | safari uses KHTML too =) |
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| 11:51.25 | SMiLeaf | wonder if they are any better at giving code back tho. |
| 11:52.23 | AcidTonic | oh man i have this laptop setup quite nice at the moment |
| 11:52.33 | AcidTonic | I've been running linux on my laptop for about a year now |
| 11:52.44 | AcidTonic | and I just reformatted for a few new approaches this time around |
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| 11:52.47 | AcidTonic | I'm in heaven |
| 11:53.09 | poutine | I'm reading apple has been giving back code in the form of large ondocumented patches |
| 11:53.32 | SMiLeaf | yah.. I knew about that. |
| 11:53.45 | AcidTonic | my main success is using ifplugd along with logger and metamonitor (found on kdeapps) for auto network detection and popup alerts |
| 11:53.51 | AcidTonic | makes laptop life much easier |
| 11:53.55 | SMiLeaf | so I guess they've not gotten too much better than. |
| 11:54.23 | SMiLeaf | then* |
| 11:54.43 | AcidTonic | SMiLeaf, yet they are known for their UI API's with cocoa... they cant possibly pull that stunt with that amount of code and have it work like it does.... just proving they dont really care about oss |
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| 11:54.52 | SMiLeaf | ifplugd eh? |
| 11:55.25 | AcidTonic | yeah uses a few various APIs for knowing when a cable is plugged in or not, works with wifi and APs too |
| 11:55.49 | AcidTonic | i like it because unlike most apps, it simply calls a script with the right parameters... meaning i scripted it all to hell |
| 11:55.50 | AcidTonic | haha |
| 11:56.18 | SMiLeaf | dropping to a shell to stop my eth0 and starting wlan0 is kinda annoying =] |
| 11:56.25 | AcidTonic | SMiLeaf, what distro? |
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| 11:56.35 | SMiLeaf | AcidTonic: gentoo |
| 11:56.36 | AcidTonic | SMiLeaf, if you run slack ill just throw you my folder |
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| 11:57.02 | AcidTonic | SMiLeaf, yea google or freshmeat for "ifplugd" then look for an app called "metamonitor" on kde apps website |
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| 11:57.19 | SMiLeaf | only thing I don't like about gentoo is that they cache all the ebuilds on your computer. :/ |
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| 11:57.31 | SMiLeaf | already have and am running metamonitor ;) |
| 11:57.37 | AcidTonic | SMiLeaf, in the scripts just add a line using logger to write to syslog in your ifplugd scripts, then use metamonitors filters to just show those log entries |
| 11:57.40 | AcidTonic | works like a dream mate |
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| 11:57.56 | AcidTonic | SMiLeaf, the latest? a new one just came out the 21st |
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| 11:58.35 | SMiLeaf | 0.4.5 |
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| 11:58.53 | AcidTonic | yep thats current |
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| 12:07.57 | AcidTonic | SMiLeaf, well im off to bed, later mate |
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| 12:08.47 | SMiLeaf | AcidTonic: yup later |
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| 12:16.27 | kommerck | hi |
| 12:17.05 | kommerck | how can I change width of the K button to make it look different than other buttons in kicker? |
| 12:18.08 | Wilf | ask it nicely |
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| 12:21.29 | kommerck | Wilf: actually I didn't ask like 'who is willing to help me' or 'who is willing to help me PLEASE' so it's rather hard to append the word PLEASE to my question :) |
| 12:22.01 | Wilf | i meant |
| 12:22.08 | Wilf | ask the k button to change, nicely |
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| 12:22.15 | kommerck | Ah |
| 12:22.35 | kommerck | :) |
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| 12:23.42 | kommerck | it won't :) |
| 12:24.33 | sredna | kommerck: Find something on www.kde-look.org named kxkb I think |
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| 12:26.30 | stampede | kommerck: you can add a text label to that button and/or a background picture/color |
| 12:26.52 | kommerck | sredna: kxkb is a keyboard switcher |
| 12:26.59 | kommerck | keyboard layout |
| 12:27.06 | sredna | Hm, I remembered wrong.. |
| 12:27.26 | sredna | But there is a k menu button thing that lets you have a wider button |
| 12:27.43 | kommerck | I'll search kde-look.org now |
| 12:27.59 | stampede | sredna: it's kfxb, if I recall correctly |
| 12:28.09 | sredna | Maybe |
| 12:28.49 | sredna | Kbfx |
| 12:29.13 | sredna | http://www.linuxlots.com/~siraj/kde/plugin/home/ |
| 12:30.22 | sredna | kommerck: ^ |
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| 12:35.28 | kommerck | sredna: thanks, that's what I'm looking for. |
| 12:35.42 | sredna | :) |
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| 12:38.20 | coachz | hi sredna |
| 12:38.41 | coachz | do you do any quanta ? |
| 12:39.07 | coachz | Any chance kate will get autolookup of functions and tags ? |
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| 12:40.05 | sredna | coachz: I never really used quanta a lot |
| 12:40.17 | coachz | Any chance kate will get autolookup of functions and tags ? |
| 12:40.26 | sredna | coachz: If someone writes a plugin :) |
| 12:40.34 | coachz | that would be cool |
| 12:40.40 | coachz | i wish i knew how |
| 12:41.23 | sredna | Well, since there is this highlly specialized app (quanta) why not just use that? |
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| 12:41.38 | coachz | i'm trying to get the php help to work but no luck yet |
| 12:41.46 | coachz | and the chat room is pretty dead |
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| 12:43.14 | coachz | and kfilereplace only works on local files, how lame |
| 12:43.24 | coachz | totally lame |
| 12:43.29 | coachz | lame beyone belief lame |
| 12:44.43 | mariux | can someone confirm that http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/archive/00622/Bilbrann_800_622475b.jpg that image works in all other browsers that konqueror? |
| 12:45.05 | coachz | works in firefox 1.5 |
| 12:45.14 | mariux | can you check konqueror too? |
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| 12:45.39 | coachz | works there too |
| 12:45.44 | coachz | kde 3.5 konqueror |
| 12:45.51 | mariux | hmm, weird |
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| 12:46.06 | coachz | and opera too |
| 12:46.07 | mariux | it works when opened in kuickshow |
| 12:46.09 | Pinaraf | mariux: Konqueror doesn't show images |
| 12:46.12 | mariux | but not when i open it in konqueror |
| 12:46.16 | Pinaraf | it opens a KPart |
| 12:46.27 | Pinaraf | and this KPart show the image in the konqueror window |
| 12:46.32 | mariux | well, i SHOULD get a picture when i type that url in konqueror |
| 12:46.36 | Pinaraf | so check which kpart you're using to view pictures ? |
| 12:46.43 | mariux | or when the image is embedded in a webpage |
| 12:46.46 | coachz | Pinaraf is on the ball |
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| 12:47.33 | Pinaraf | here I've got 3 kparts to view pictures, and it works with each... |
| 12:47.39 | mariux | http://snoogi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=5717#p5715 the post by "robban" containing the text "der er den ene" |
| 12:47.48 | mariux | har an <img> with that picture |
| 12:47.51 | mariux | konqueror doesnt show it |
| 12:48.08 | mariux | *har = has |
| 12:48.11 | sredna | mabu: http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/archive/00622/Bilbrann_800_622475b.jpg displays fine in konqueror (using the gwenview image part) |
| 12:48.19 | Pinaraf | mariux: it's shown here |
| 12:48.23 | benJIman | shows here |
| 12:48.25 | mariux | hmm, weird |
| 12:48.35 | benJIman | perhaps you've blocked it with adblocK or something? |
| 12:49.16 | mariux | npe |
| 12:49.30 | mariux | image/jpeg is "embedding image viewer khtmlimage" |
| 13:03.44 | kommerck | brb (X restart) |
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| 13:15.26 | Aji-Dahaka | so, this voice commands thing ... I've entered one and set up a shortcut key to begin listening, but ... nothing. Is there anything that should show up on screen or anything? |
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| 13:29.31 | coachz | sredna, where can i get a list of kate plugins? |
| 13:32.04 | coachz | i only see this: http://kate.kde.org/3rdparty.php |
| 13:32.04 | coachz | ahh, i see them in kate itself |
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| 13:36.05 | coachz | sredna, you here ? |
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| 13:43.48 | coachz | sredna, hi |
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| 13:46.31 | sredna | Re |
| 13:46.48 | coachz | you awake :-) |
| 13:46.54 | coachz | i have a ? |
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| 13:48.03 | sredna | Shoot |
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| 13:48.22 | coachz | How about a way to make the file browser follow sessions |
| 13:48.36 | coachz | so when i switch servers with sessions i see the right files |
| 13:48.48 | coachz | without having to additionally store bookmarks and retrieve them |
| 13:49.05 | arkanoid | how come a lot of small squares, each containing one letter pops up when I press ctrl i Konqueror? |
| 13:49.14 | sredna | Uhm, the file browser have an option to autosync when you switch document, or when it becomes visible |
| 13:49.27 | sredna | There is also a sync button in its toolbar |
| 13:49.45 | sredna | But yes, I want to eventually save its data to the session files |
| 13:49.52 | coachz | i'm looking for autosync |
| 13:50.05 | coachz | i see it |
| 13:50.30 | sredna | arkanoid: They are access keys - when available you can press the displayed key to activate the object (typically a link) |
| 13:50.38 | arkanoid | I can figure that they point to each link on the page, but how do I turn them off |
| 13:50.58 | sredna | arkanoid: ! Afaik |
| 13:51.08 | sredna | Just press ctrl again |
| 13:51.29 | arkanoid | hmm, that's bad |
| 13:51.30 | coachz | sredna, it would be nice if I could see what my current session is |
| 13:51.39 | coachz | in the sessions menu would be great |
| 13:51.40 | sredna | coachz: Well, it works for locations that can provide a listing that the dir view can understand |
| 13:51.48 | sredna | coachz: Yep :) |
| 13:52.17 | sredna | arkanoid: You should try using it, it's very comfortable actually |
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| 13:52.49 | coachz | auto sync not working |
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| 13:53.05 | coachz | I have checked "When a document becomes active" |
| 13:53.11 | coachz | i closed kate and reopened |
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| 13:53.27 | coachz | i open a session on another server and the filesystem browser still shows local |
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| 13:54.47 | coachz | sredna, can you try that? |
| 13:55.01 | Aji-Dahaka | hmm ... wonder why these voice commands aren't working |
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| 13:55.35 | coachz | sredna, also, what is SESSION under configure kate / File Selector |
| 13:55.50 | coachz | that Session has Restore Location and Restore Last filter |
| 13:56.47 | sredna | coachz: Those just allows you to decide if you want the filesystem browser to do session management |
| 13:57.11 | coachz | can you test if the auto sync is broken on your end? |
| 13:57.42 | sredna | coachz: If sync with document open is enabled, the filesystem browser should sync whenever you switch document, including opening one |
| 13:57.52 | sredna | If the location can be listed |
| 13:57.57 | sredna | It works for FTP |
| 13:59.01 | coachz | sredna, it works when i change docs but not when i open a new session |
| 13:59.18 | coachz | so i have to have at least 2 docs open and pick the 'other' one |
| 13:59.38 | BlackBsd | hi, im having problem after installing koffice. the icons in the kmenu do not show up for my user. if i create another user or login as root then the icons in the kmenu are there. what would cause my main user to not show the icons? |
| 13:59.58 | sredna | coachz: Well, its not supposed to |
| 14:00.39 | coachz | it would be nice when changing sessions to have the file browser follow |
| 14:00.43 | coachz | if possible |
| 14:00.55 | sredna | coachz: As I said, I want to offer the filesystem browser saving its session data in the kate sessions, then it can change when the session does |
| 14:01.05 | sredna | For kdate 3.0 :) |
| 14:01.18 | Wilf | apt, wilf |
| 14:01.21 | apt | methinks wilf is greater than you |
| 14:01.21 | coachz | 2.5.0.0.0.0.0.today ! hehe |
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| 14:01.52 | coachz | where do i 'manage' filesystem browser sessions? i don't see anything |
| 14:03.55 | sredna | Well, you can decide if it should remember it's location and filter, nothihng else |
| 14:04.06 | coachz | the bookmarks ? |
| 14:06.18 | coachz | the Kate handbook does not match my version of Kate ;-( |
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| 14:08.53 | sredna | coachz: I'm working my ass off to update the manual as we speak |
| 14:09.02 | coachz | do you write it in html ? |
| 14:09.21 | sredna | coachz: So by tonight you can get the updated version from svn, and it will be in the 3.5.1 release |
| 14:09.27 | sredna | coachz: Docbook XML |
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| 14:10.00 | sredna | Which is a pain but nice when first its done |
| 14:10.28 | coachz | if i could understand docbook i would help ;-( |
| 14:11.27 | coachz | What does "Include window configuration" include ? |
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| 14:13.16 | feindbild | hi =) |
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| 14:13.22 | coachz | My General Options page does not have any of the options listed in the handbook. I just have Appearance, Behavior and Meta-Information |
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| 14:15.27 | sredna | coachz: That is a nice offer. You can't really help with the kate maual right now though, as I'm almost done and it requires a deep knowledge of the application. But if you want to help with KDE documentation, you can write in plain text, and someone will do the markup. You can write kde-docs-english to get started |
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| 14:17.07 | coachz | What does "Include window configuration" include ? |
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| 14:19.54 | sredna | The state of the window: Toolbars, sidebars, editor frames |
| 14:20.46 | coachz | i see, thanks a lot sredna |
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| 14:21.40 | coachz | I'll be dancing when sessions sync up the file browser |
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| 14:26.10 | BlackBsd | the new koffice should support tabed documents |
| 14:26.41 | BlackBsd | sorta like tabbed browsing, but for documents |
| 14:27.25 | sredna | coachz: Well, given your session opens some file, the filesystem browser should sync with that if you have syncing on document change enabled |
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| 14:29.01 | coachz | but it doesn't |
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| 14:34.55 | coachz | it only syncs if you click another open file |
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| 14:37.17 | sredna | coachz: Probably the order of things prevents that from working as expected |
| 14:37.18 | coachz | so you are forced to open bookmarks in the file browser if you have not left your session with at least 2 docs or else if you just have 1 you have to open a blank doc and click on it and then click back |
| 14:37.45 | sredna | It should remember the location though, I have added code for that I remember |
| 14:38.15 | coachz | that would be sweet, i'll just leave 2 docs open on all sessions for now |
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| 14:42.54 | coachz | sredna, and the current document folder icon in the file browser only works if your open session is on the same server |
| 14:43.10 | coachz | so i open a session on another server and the current document icon is greyed out |
| 14:43.23 | coachz | having two docs open at all times is the easiest way to keep syncing |
| 14:43.36 | coachz | i just click on one doc and click back |
| 14:43.44 | sredna | coachz: I dont understand what you mean |
| 14:44.06 | coachz | do you want me to explain or continue your break |
| 14:44.25 | coachz | you just got here, what you need a break for. heheheheh kidding |
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| 14:45.24 | coachz | I like the Include window config option. nice |
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| 15:02.47 | cebulon | hi to all .... |
| 15:03.54 | PhilRod | hiya cebulon |
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| 15:06.05 | cebulon | hiya PhilRod |
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| 15:13.55 | oGALAXYo | moin |
| 15:15.30 | CVirus | mornin' |
| 15:16.02 | BlackBsd | hi, im having problem after installing koffice. the icons in the kmenu do not show up for my user. if i create another user or login as root then the icons in the kmenu are there. what would cause my main user to not show the icons? |
| 15:16.57 | PhilRod | do you mean there's no menu entry, or just no icon? |
| 15:17.25 | BlackBsd | PhilRod, no menu entry or no icons |
| 15:17.48 | BlackBsd | it just doesnt show up for my main user |
| 15:17.59 | BlackBsd | but the root and new users it shows up fine. |
| 15:18.28 | BlackBsd | i have uninstalled and tried to reinstall, at least a few different times |
| 15:18.32 | PhilRod | rename ~/.config and ~/.local, restart KDE and see if that fixed it (it will probably break other stuff, so come back and tell us, and we'll fix it properly) |
| 15:19.05 | BlackBsd | ok thanks, ill be back |
| 15:19.30 | PhilRod | don't delete them, just rename |
| 15:19.34 | BlackBsd | ok |
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| 15:20.04 | rohan | hi all |
| 15:20.08 | rohan | anyone know how i can get translucent selection rectangle in kde ? |
| 15:20.10 | rohan | its there by default in kubuntu |
| 15:20.23 | sredna | PhilRod: Do we have a policy for using either 'folder' or 'directory'? |
| 15:20.52 | StevenR | sredna: I would alwys say directory |
| 15:20.56 | oGALAXYo | sredna: 'foldrectory' |
| 15:21.04 | sredna | Dah |
| 15:21.07 | sredna | :p |
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| 15:22.55 | modan | how can I put KDE as default GUI (FC4) ? |
| 15:23.21 | rohan | modan: you use kdm / gdm ? |
| 15:23.45 | BlackBsd | PhilRod: I cannot tell a difference really, but some buttons on my menu bar no longer work.. but no koffice items in the menu. |
| 15:23.48 | modan | rohan: yes |
| 15:23.57 | modan | kde |
| 15:24.07 | rohan | modan: no. the login manager. kdm ? gdm ? |
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| 15:24.32 | PhilRod | sredna: folder, unless you're talking about something on the command line |
| 15:24.34 | BlackBsd | PhilRod: check that, i now have menu items |
| 15:24.38 | modan | rohan: how do I know ? |
| 15:24.48 | PhilRod | (where '"cd" means "change folder"' would sound silly) |
| 15:24.48 | BlackBsd | my whole kmenu is different now |
| 15:24.51 | sredna | PhilRod: Thanks, I thought I remembered something like that |
| 15:25.10 | rohan | modan: /exec -o cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop |
| 15:25.18 | StevenR | why does this formula give "True" instead of a number as the result? =(sqrt(2)*H3)^2/733 (in kspread) |
| 15:25.26 | sredna | PhilRod: I have to talk about 'kde data folder' rather than 'kde data directory' then, right? |
| 15:25.44 | rohan | modan: ask someone in #fedora, i used fedora long back, not sure now. just ask them "how to set kdm as default login manager" .. or use google. |
| 15:26.01 | modan | thanx |
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| 15:26.35 | PhilRod | BlackBsd: yes, local menu modifications are stored in one of those two directories you moved (I always forget which). |
| 15:26.37 | BlackBsd | PhilRod: what damage did i do my renaming my .config and .local. because besides my kmenu being totally different, the koffice menu items are now present. |
| 15:27.21 | PhilRod | BlackBsd: OK, I'd suggest putting those directories back. Let me try to remember how they work |
| 15:27.35 | PhilRod | oh, and I think you can just run "kbuildsycoca" instead of restarting KDE |
| 15:28.07 | BlackBsd | well i could always just fix them again. at least my koffice icons are present. |
| 15:28.35 | BlackBsd | i no longer have a .config directory. it has not been remade |
| 15:30.06 | rohan | so, no way to have a translucent selection erctangle like windoze xp / kubuntu / suse ? |
| 15:30.07 | PhilRod | but you still have your old .config, right? |
| 15:30.09 | rohan | on arch linux ? |
| 15:30.20 | PhilRod | rohan: there's a patch for it on kde-look somewhere, I think |
| 15:30.22 | BlackBsd | PhillRod Yes |
| 15:30.35 | BlackBsd | PhilRod* |
| 15:30.45 | rohan | PhilRod: i am looking since ages, but cant find it :( |
| 15:31.20 | PhilRod | BlackBsd: move it back, and see if it contains a file menus/applications-kmenuedit* |
| 15:31.26 | PhilRod | rohan: sec, let me see |
| 15:32.45 | rohan | PhilRod: thanks :) |
| 15:32.45 | PhilRod | rohan: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=16962 |
| 15:32.50 | PhilRod | heya George :-) |
| 15:32.55 | George | hey PhilRod |
| 15:33.14 | BlackBsd | PhilRod: yes it does, but this new menu has other programs that were not on my old menu. |
| 15:33.15 | PhilRod | George: got all your uni application replies back? |
| 15:33.41 | rohan | ah, he called it rubberband :P and no mention of translucent. seems english is not his main lang. |
| 15:33.58 | PhilRod | BlackBsd: OK, well your choice - if you want to go with the new menu, that's fine too :-) |
| 15:34.20 | BlackBsd | besids the menu, has anything else changed by renaming the .local dir and .config |
| 15:34.21 | BlackBsd | ? |
| 15:35.30 | PhilRod | file assocations |
| 15:35.34 | PhilRod | I think |
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| 15:36.24 | BlackBsd | ok so basic stuff like that, nothing really major like some programs no longer work |
| 15:36.37 | George | PhilRod: no |
| 15:36.42 | George | PhilRod: still waiting on cambridge and st andrews |
| 15:36.57 | PhilRod | BlackBsd: I think that's all |
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| 15:45.10 | sredna | PhilRod: Can you point me to a example of programming api docs in docbook? |
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| 15:49.17 | PhilRod | sredna: hrm, it's pretty horrible - I'll see if I can find some |
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| 15:49.54 | bronco1 | hello all |
| 15:50.04 | bronco1 | I was sent here from the fedora chan |
| 15:52.22 | sredna | PhilRod: Specifically, I'm trying to convert kates javascript api to docbook |
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| 15:54.09 | sredna | No crashing, it just decided to shut down :0 |
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| 15:55.35 | PhilRod | sredna: do you have the original? It might be best to do it automatically - the docbook syntax for functions is verbose and horrible |
| 15:55.58 | sredna | PhilRod: The original what? |
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| 15:56.31 | sfr | hi - how can i empty the trash using dcop? |
| 15:56.44 | Anonycat | I have a 107-key keyboard plus 17 "task buttons" at the top, such as Home Page, Media Player Next Track, and Volume Up. GNOME is able to map these keys to shortcuts, but KDE won't recognize them as valid keys to map a shortcut to--do I need to do something extra to make them work? |
| 15:56.51 | sredna | PhilRod: It's possible that there is only a wiki page, and the source code |
| 15:56.53 | PhilRod | sfr: see if kfmclient has a "delete" command |
| 15:57.19 | PhilRod | sredna: oh, you said you were converting something - I thought you meant that you have existing docs |
| 15:57.43 | sredna | PhilRod: A wiki page - http://www.kate-editor.org/index.php/Scripting_with_JavaScript |
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| 15:58.41 | sredna | PhilRod: But it could be faster to do doxygen markup if there is a conversion tool. I have no idea what I'm doing actually |
| 15:59.10 | PhilRod | sredna: to be honest, I think you should go for doxygen, but let me check the docbok markup |
| 15:59.15 | sredna | I just try using tags like 'function', 'type' and 'parameter' and see if it becomes readable |
| 16:00.03 | sredna | PhilRod: Uhm, if I produce doxygen, is there a way to get it into the manual? |
| 16:00.11 | sredna | That is kindof where I'd like it... |
| 16:01.17 | sfr | ktrash --empty ^^ |
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| 16:05.06 | PhilRod | sredna: hrm, there might be docbook output in doxygen - let me see |
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| 16:07.27 | sredna | My doxygen version seems to support HTML, latex and rtf only, according to its help message |
| 16:07.46 | sredna | But mine is old :-) |
| 16:07.54 | PhilRod | the doxygen webpage says it does XML (but not docbook) |
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| 16:08.09 | PhilRod | but you can probably do a fairly good XML->Docbook conversion using XSLT |
| 16:08.33 | PhilRod | so, that would be a pig to set up, but a |
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| 16:08.39 | sredna | Sigh |
| 16:08.47 | sredna | I have only a few hours |
| 16:08.47 | PhilRod | ... little nicer to maintain than doing docbook directly |
| 16:08.56 | sredna | If I want this comitted today |
| 16:09.02 | PhilRod | ah, that kinda changes it |
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| 16:09.45 | sredna | I just need some sort of model for a single function, if you can suggest something |
| 16:10.21 | PhilRod | I'm sure there was a good example somewhere, but I can't find it - time for more searchign |
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| 16:12.53 | PhilRod | it's not what I was looking for, but: http://i18n.kde.org/doc/markup/synopsis.html#id2569743 |
| 16:13.46 | PhilRod | aha! |
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| 16:14.03 | sredna | That helps :) |
| 16:14.17 | nixnoob | Hi all im trying to mount a samba share but when I try to go to the mountpoint it just freezes im using "smbmount //linuxbox/STORAGE /mnt/share -o credentials=/home/linuxbox/.smbmount-linuxbox" and have a credentials file with username= password= workgroup= and ip= filled in |
| 16:14.57 | sredna | #samba 72 |
| 16:15.13 | nixnoob | ? |
| 16:15.24 | PhilRod | ah, kdelibs/kdoctools/template.docbook has an example, but it's even worse than I thought (uses refentries, which I've only ever used once - not sure how well the stylesheets support them) |
| 16:15.25 | kommerck | nixnoob: wrong channel, go to #samba |
| 16:15.29 | sredna | There are 72 users in channel #samba, nixnoob |
| 16:15.29 | kommerck | +please |
| 16:15.33 | nixnoob | kk |
| 16:16.02 | sredna | They are likely to know more that us about this topic, and certainly they will be more willing to discuss it ;) |
| 16:16.03 | Sho_ | nixnoob: if you're not keen on mounting, konquerors smb:// might be an easy alternative however |
| 16:16.37 | nixnoob | Sho: well I can do it that way but I want to play video and mp3 remotely |
| 16:16.42 | sredna | PhilRod: Uuh, btu I'll look |
| 16:16.48 | sredna | But |
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| 16:17.09 | Sho_ | nixnoob: 99% of KDE applications - such as KMplayer for video and amaroK for audio - can access smb:// just fine |
| 16:17.36 | nixnoob | I couldnt get KMplayer to even work once I installed kde 3.5 |
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| 16:17.55 | RolandU | hi all |
| 16:18.00 | Sho_ | nixnoob: Hm, I'm using it right now to play a Frasier episode - via Samba no less ;) |
| 16:18.08 | nixnoob | for some reason none would play any videos from the share on the other comp |
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| 16:19.14 | nixnoob | Sho_: I must have smb setup different is lisa and lan: supposed to work what is that all about im not sure |
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| 16:19.37 | nixnoob | no one is talking in #samba lol |
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| 16:19.45 | oGALAXYo | http://www.osnews.com/printer.php?news_id=13118 |
| 16:19.59 | PhilRod | RolandU: you don't have the randr extension enabled in your xorg.conf |
| 16:20.34 | PhilRod | RolandU: run "xrandr --query" and look for "rotations possible" |
| 16:20.50 | nixnoob | Im not sure KMplayer wont play any video at all after installing kde3.5 |
| 16:21.08 | nixnoob | So I just use gmplayer or xine |
| 16:21.13 | RolandU | PhilRod, Rotations possible - normal |
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| 16:21.28 | Sho_ | nixnoob: I think LISA is some sort of share discovery system ... but I don't know anything else about it |
| 16:22.16 | nixnoob | Sho_: yeah I was trying to figure it out the other day but gave up and tryed to figure out streaming in samba |
| 16:22.35 | PhilRod | RolandU: yeah, you need to enable the randr extension in your xorg.conf - ask in #yourdistro |
| 16:24.00 | sredna | PhilRod: That is scary :o |
| 16:24.02 | nixnoob | I even tryed to emerge kmplayer but that didnt seem to fix it maybe its my USE flags not sure |
| 16:24.09 | sredna | (the docbook sample) |
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| 16:25.13 | RolandU | PhilRod, there is no automated tool in debian, I will have to write that myself... |
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| 16:25.53 | straw | oGALAXYo: nice article :) |
| 16:25.59 | annma | hi |
| 16:26.01 | annma | sredna: ping |
| 16:26.06 | straw | hi annma |
| 16:26.09 | oGALAXYo | straw: indeed it is.. and hopefully give KDE a big bump |
| 16:26.13 | sredna | annma: Pong |
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| 16:27.10 | annma | f <userinput>name</userinput> is not known, the mode is set to 'none'. Valid |
| 16:27.10 | annma | modes are 'cstyle', 'csands', |
| 16:27.24 | annma | csands is not mentioned in kate_part.po |
| 16:27.24 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:27.35 | annma | from a typo bug report, sredna |
| 16:27.38 | PhilRod | RolandU: indeed, but it's only a one-line edit |
| 16:27.52 | sredna | annma: Yes, that is the same |
| 16:28.01 | annma | thanks! |
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| 16:28.20 | annma | I didn't see MMMM - long month name |
| 16:28.20 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.20 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.21 | nixnoob | hmm I could prob play it through smb with kmplayer anyone have any idea how I should try to fix kmplayer |
| 16:28.21 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.23 | sredna | annma: You are aware that I comitted a lot of changes to all those files a while ago right? |
| 16:28.34 | annma | sredna: I updated before |
| 16:28.54 | annma | sredna: doing http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114599 |
| 16:29.02 | annma | and proof reading quickly |
| 16:29.12 | sredna | annma: Uhm, I copied most of those data form qt docs |
| 16:29.18 | annma | ok |
| 16:29.23 | annma | we won't nitpick |
| 16:29.28 | annma | no time for that |
| 16:29.30 | annma | ;) |
| 16:29.35 | sredna | annma: You are referring to the reference tables for the command line commands, right? |
| 16:29.40 | annma | yes |
| 16:29.59 | sredna | Well, ask any question you like, I'll be here for yet some hours |
| 16:30.00 | nixnoob | I start KMplayer but it wont play anything... |
| 16:31.14 | BlackBsd | i just added the terminal menu to my panel menu bar, it has 3 types of consoles to choose from, shell, linux console, root console, new bookmarks and reload session. How can i configure what displays. I dont want all of the previous to be visible..? |
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| 16:32.56 | decOding | how do I install themes for deKorator? |
| 16:33.12 | sredna | annma: I dont' understand why natalie has the first topic in the report. 'used' is correct, that is some people prefers disabling the syntax highlight, so they can't use the comment/uncomment functions because they dont use syntax highlighting, not because it is not defined |
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| 16:33.59 | annma | ok I can reverse to 'used' |
| 16:34.16 | annma | apostroph are always used it seems |
| 16:34.20 | sredna | annma: Oh, and you could always reassign bugs regarding kate docs to me |
| 16:34.21 | annma | whenever possible |
| 16:34.26 | sredna | Hm |
| 16:34.31 | decOding | found it |
| 16:34.39 | sredna | It's is wrong I understand |
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| 16:36.07 | annma | for 'used' versus 'supported' it's because 'supported' is used above I think |
| 16:36.21 | sredna | But I dearly hope natalie understands how much i(we I hope) appreciate her efforts |
| 16:36.29 | annma | if comments are supported by the format of the text you are |
| 16:36.29 | annma | editing |
| 16:36.41 | sredna | Supported is ok |
| 16:36.50 | annma | so I suppose she thinks it should be the same for syntax highlighting |
| 16:37.33 | sredna | Well, it may be supported but not used, and it's nog given that the user associates that with the commenting |
| 16:38.33 | annma | ok |
| 16:39.43 | PhilRod | I wouldn't have made the first change she suggested, but the rest are correct |
| 16:40.06 | PhilRod | and I can explain apostrophes if you want :-) |
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| 16:40.51 | PhilRod | but most native english speakers can't seem to get them right, so don't worry if you can't :-) |
| 16:42.20 | sredna | PhilRod: Uhm, I'd just like to improve my written english as much as possible :) |
| 16:42.54 | annma | you did an amazing job on Kate doc, sredna |
| 16:43.05 | sredna | annma: When is the deadline, and will it be acceptable if I renew the few screenshots in kates manual? They are scaringly old it appears.. |
| 16:43.22 | annma | the deadline is this night for docs |
| 16:43.32 | annma | PhilRod: what about screenshots? |
| 16:43.34 | sredna | As in 00:00 CET? |
| 16:43.59 | annma | sredna: I suppose, yes, not sure for screenshots as they won't initiate string changes |
| 16:44.07 | sredna | Ok :) |
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| 16:48.16 | Pinaraf | hi |
| 16:48.17 | Pinaraf | http://www.terra.es/personal/diegocg/kde/ : is the writer on this channel ? |
| 16:48.36 | annma | sredna: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116119 |
| 16:48.40 | annma | I dn't get it |
| 16:48.48 | annma | should be quick fix |
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| 16:54.05 | sredna | annma: Uhm, I thought that was fixed. I'll check immediately |
| 16:54.13 | annma | yes, thanks |
| 16:54.34 | StevenR | is there a bugs.kde.org web shortcut? |
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| 16:54.38 | titou | hi |
| 16:54.44 | titou | i have a simple question |
| 16:54.58 | titou | when i use aRTs with the ALSA plugin |
| 16:55.00 | StevenR | like bko: 116119 would take me to http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116119 |
| 16:55.20 | Anonycat | You can add it in Konqueror if you want |
| 16:55.38 | titou | aRTs is very low and need lot of memory |
| 16:55.54 | titou | whereas when i use the OSS (emulated by ALSA) plugin, it's correct |
| 16:56.10 | titou | there is no solution to change that problem ? |
| 16:56.10 | kommerck | arts sucks |
| 16:56.21 | kommerck | and wine arts driver isn't good |
| 16:56.25 | StevenR | Anonycat: it's already there....bug: number |
| 16:56.28 | StevenR | :) |
| 16:56.45 | titou | kommerck: poor boy |
| 16:56.46 | straw | arts rocks |
| 16:57.23 | kommerck | arts isn't developed anymore |
| 16:57.23 | annma | titou: so use OSS |
| 16:57.31 | titou | hey annma :) |
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| 16:57.42 | annma | it is as much as some other kde progs, kommerck |
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| 16:57.55 | kommerck | damn, I thought I'm in #winehq :D |
| 16:57.59 | annma | kommerck: and maybe it sucks but no good replacement was made for years |
| 16:58.00 | StevenR | arts still seems to improve |
| 16:58.21 | annma | so aRts does not such so much if nobody can come with a better prog |
| 16:58.26 | StevenR | it seems to crash less than it used to, and latency seems to have got less too |
| 16:58.37 | kommerck | but kde 4.0 won't use it... will it |
| 16:58.51 | StevenR | and alsa's dmix seems not to work when it feels like it |
| 16:58.56 | kommerck | I'm piping all my KDE sound through mplayer and dmix |
| 16:58.59 | annma | kommerck: who knows? at the moment arts is in the kde4 tree |
| 16:59.07 | kommerck | but think of latency... |
| 16:59.09 | benJIman | dmix sucks |
| 16:59.15 | annma | kommerck: well some kde apps need arts whatever you do |
| 16:59.20 | benJIman | audio is worse than radio quality |
| 16:59.23 | sredna | annma: 'chosen', right? |
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| 16:59.30 | annma | don't propagate false ideas |
| 16:59.32 | straw | kommerck: apparently, kde4 will use arts and several other sofware sound servers |
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| 17:00.07 | straw | there was something about kdemm on dot.kde.org a while ago |
| 17:00.07 | annma | sredna: Choose |
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| 17:00.29 | kommerck | Hardwaremixing is the best :) |
| 17:00.37 | Sho_ | yup |
| 17:00.39 | annma | Sho_: it is not because you avoid it that it can be dismissed |
| 17:00.51 | annma | it cannot be avoided for some progs |
| 17:00.58 | Sho_ | annma: Nor did I claim that |
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| 17:01.18 | Sho_ | usually those progs are fairly bad and can be avoided (-> replaced by better alternatives), too ;-) |
| 17:01.26 | annma | thanks Sho_ |
| 17:01.30 | sredna | annma: Ok, comitted. It was never comitted during the discussion just before the release, I remember now |
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| 17:01.38 | sredna | annma: Thanks for the reminder |
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| 17:08.21 | annma | menu bar or menubar? |
| 17:08.26 | annma | I never know |
| 17:09.03 | BlackBsd | how can a gentoo user get kvim? i have gvim and vim but not kvim |
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| 17:09.45 | annma | BlackBsd: not sure if kvim is still developed |
| 17:10.02 | StevenR | it's not afaik |
| 17:10.09 | StevenR | nothing wrong with it though |
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| 17:18.16 | PhilRod | BlackBsd: I think the replacement is called yzis or yz-something-or-another |
| 17:19.18 | BlackBsd | thanx guys |
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| 17:22.19 | annma | PhilRod: menu bar or menubar? |
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| 17:24.15 | PhilRod | annma: not sure - which does the sanitizer say? Let me check |
| 17:24.33 | annma | I think the sanirtizer gets it wrong |
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| 17:24.53 | annma | have to go to lunch, bbl |
| 17:25.53 | PhilRod | annma: yes, the forms for "status bar" and "menubar" are different - not very logical. I don't know the reasoning behind it |
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| 17:32.38 | stask | hola |
| 17:32.52 | PhilRod | hi stask |
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| 17:33.20 | Set | KDE owns |
| 17:33.30 | candy | ktorrent is stable ? |
| 17:33.36 | stask | alguien habla español? |
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| 17:34.07 | candy | stask, somebody speak portuguese ? |
| 17:34.09 | candy | LOL |
| 17:34.53 | Set | er det noen her som snakker norsk? |
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| 17:39.19 | _dick | Is this the KDE help Channel? |
| 17:39.39 | PhilRod | yup |
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| 17:41.10 | _dick | I was told the first thing to upgrade to the latest. 3.5 I did and all works except kontact mail i get a message about "libkleopatra.so.1" |
| 17:44.02 | PhilRod | how did you upgrade and what is the message? |
| 17:44.08 | Vicker | guys, where do I control the mouse responsiveness ? |
| 17:44.09 | _dick | Cannot load part for mail. libkleopatra.so.1 cannot open shared object file. no such file or directory |
| 17:44.20 | PhilRod | you probably just need to install the kleopatra package for your distro |
| 17:44.30 | PhilRod | Vicker: control center -> peripherals->mouse |
| 17:44.48 | Vicker | PhilRod: which one? is it the threshold ? |
| 17:45.26 | _dick | Can I find that on line or in package manager? |
| 17:45.33 | Vicker | PhilRod: right now, single click generates two mouse events, i don't know which value to adjust |
| 17:45.37 | PhilRod | Vicker: see if there's some whatsthis help that explains it |
| 17:46.48 | _dick | I upgraded in the "Update Manager" |
| 17:48.06 | PhilRod | _dick: no idea, you'll have to ask in #yourdistro |
| 17:50.19 | _dick | <PhilRod>I am running kubutu, is #yourdistro a channel? I am new at this. |
| 17:51.03 | straw | _dick: #kubuntu |
| 17:52.41 | _dick | straw :Thank you very much Is ther a protocal to leave here and go to another channel? I do not want to just drop if that would be wrong. |
| 17:53.19 | _dick | 1st time using an irc |
| 17:53.34 | straw | _dick: just do /join #kubuntu |
| 17:53.53 | _dick | thanks |
| 17:54.08 | straw | _dick: you'll remain in this channel, and enter that one |
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| 17:55.43 | candy | where i found a good theme for karamba |
| 17:56.16 | straw | candy: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=38 |
| 17:56.48 | candy | i want the bar |
| 17:57.09 | candy | straw, i want the menu bar, similar a MAC |
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| 18:06.27 | wateriestfire | hi |
| 18:10.51 | SMiLeaf | hi |
| 18:11.15 | SMiLeaf | why do people say 'hi' and then ~8 seconds later leave? XD |
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| 18:12.00 | straw | SMiLeaf: irc newbs, i guess |
| 18:12.33 | SMiLeaf | I wasn't even that bad starting off tho.. people had to tell me to shut up XD |
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| 18:13.10 | SMiLeaf | oh well >.> |
| 18:13.25 | SMiLeaf | straw: so what's up? :) |
| 18:14.32 | straw | not much, really. gotta go exchange an xmas gift |
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| 18:21.28 | Vicker | PhilRod: it was xorg problem, related to the mouse driver |
| 18:21.38 | Vicker | now its fixed |
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| 18:23.30 | flindet | hi. I'm having a hard time finding a description of what kded is. Can anyone point me in the right direction? |
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| 18:26.04 | trappist | most of my toolbar icons have vanished from kontact. what could I have done to cause this? would selecting an incomplete icon set cause it? |
| 18:28.32 | flindet | is anyone here using nvidia drivers 8176 or 8178? |
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| 18:30.53 | sredna | flindet: Source code :) |
| 18:31.01 | Subdino | hi. which file defines the content of the K menu ? |
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| 18:31.27 | flindet | sredna: Well, I was hoping there might be a description or something explaining what it does |
| 18:31.36 | sredna | flindet: Kded is a daemon that runs various services for kde applications |
| 18:32.24 | jeremywhiting | hi all, anyone here know of a chinese input method app that works with kde apps? |
| 18:32.25 | sredna | Subdino: No single file. The K menu is mainly built form .desktop files in kde and xdg application directories, + some kde configuration data |
| 18:32.42 | jeremywhiting | I used scim in gnome but it doesn't seem to work with Konsole, etc |
| 18:32.47 | anisX | greetings |
| 18:33.26 | anisX | does Kword can edit a pdf document ? |
| 18:33.30 | coachz | sredna, are you doing updated kate docs for all of kate or just sessions ? |
| 18:33.34 | Subdino | sredna: mmh, I guess it depends also on the distro |
| 18:33.48 | sredna | Subdino: To see the paths of the application directories, use kde-config --path apps and kde-config --path xdgdata-apps |
| 18:34.04 | Subdino | but I think I found the file I was searching : .config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu |
| 18:34.27 | sredna | coachz: All of kate - allthough I still work on something (scripting) |
| 18:34.44 | Subdino | sredna: thanks |
| 18:34.54 | coachz | when you get it done I'll be happy to check it if you like |
| 18:35.26 | sredna | coachz: You can get it from svn - websvn.kde.org or anonsvn.kde.org for example |
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| 18:35.40 | coachz | when ? |
| 18:36.28 | coachz | when will you have the updates done? |
| 18:36.30 | sredna | Now - I committed a while ago, and both annma and I are finetuning atm |
| 18:36.48 | coachz | ahh, now if i can figure out how to get them from those sites ;-( |
| 18:36.51 | sredna | Some stuff will be added in a bit still, and I want to update the screenshots too |
| 18:37.34 | sredna | Well, websvn lets you browse, look for branches/3.5/KDE/kdebase/doc/kate iirc |
| 18:38.13 | coachz | k |
| 18:38.25 | coachz | yum install websvn finds nothing ;-( |
| 18:38.54 | coachz | i'm browsing in firefox to it though |
| 18:38.57 | sredna | websvn.kde.org is a website - http://websvn.kde.org |
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| 18:40.19 | coachz | can i just dl the docbook files from this site? http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/doc/kate/ |
| 18:40.26 | coachz | which docbook |
| 18:40.41 | coachz | fundamentals.docbook? |
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| 18:41.11 | coachz | hmm, i guess i have to use svn ;-) |
| 18:43.46 | coachz | this no worky, am i close? svn+http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/doc/kate/fundamentals.docbook |
| 18:44.20 | sredna | coachz: You should use anonsvn for that |
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| 18:44.35 | sredna | coachz: And you can check out the directory |
| 18:44.48 | coachz | sorry, i'm lost |
| 18:45.01 | sredna | coachz: Then you can use meinproc to compile it |
| 18:45.10 | coachz | now i'm totally lost |
| 18:45.19 | sredna | coachz: anonsvn.kde.org for chicking out with svn |
| 18:45.37 | sredna | And cut the filename - just get the directory |
| 18:45.50 | sredna | Docbook is XML text, and readable |
| 18:46.11 | sredna | So you can read the files with any file viewer |
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| 18:46.25 | coachz | anonsvn+http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/doc/kate |
| 18:46.25 | coachz | bash: anonsvn+http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/doc/kate: No such file or directory |
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| 18:46.34 | er4z0r | hi folks |
| 18:46.49 | coachz | hi earazzor4zer |
| 18:47.13 | er4z0r | I have some strange problem with automounting/ Knoqueror opening the folder for the media I just inserted |
| 18:47.35 | er4z0r | when I put in a cdrom I get the following: |
| 18:47.48 | er4z0r | Beim Laden von media:/hdc ist folgender Fehler aufgetreten: |
| 18:47.49 | er4z0r | Die Datei oder der Ordner media:/hdc existiert nicht. |
| 18:47.56 | er4z0r | sorry its german I know |
| 18:48.07 | coachz | the romance language ;-) |
| 18:48.27 | er4z0r | just tells me that the folder doesn't exist |
| 18:48.34 | er4z0r | allthoug it does |
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| 18:49.18 | er4z0r | /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 |
| 18:49.18 | er4z0r | /dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 |
| 18:49.25 | er4z0r | so thats for fstab |
| 18:49.27 | oGALAXYo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.34 | oGALAXYo | a device is something different than a folder |
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| 18:49.58 | StevenR | er4z0r: are you trying to mount an audio cd? |
| 18:50.03 | er4z0r | nope |
| 18:50.08 | er4z0r | wait a sec |
| 18:50.10 | er4z0r | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2005-10-30 13:20 cdrom -> cdrom0 |
| 18:50.11 | er4z0r | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-10-30 13:20 cdrom0 |
| 18:50.11 | StevenR | does the mount point exist? |
| 18:50.18 | er4z0r | thats for media |
| 18:50.22 | er4z0r | and... |
| 18:50.33 | er4z0r | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-12-29 19:39 hdc |
| 18:50.37 | er4z0r | thats in media too |
| 18:50.50 | er4z0r | permissions problem? |
| 18:50.52 | oGALAXYo | er4z0r: ein device unterscheidet sich von einem verzeichnis. |
| 18:50.55 | oGALAXYo | nein |
| 18:51.09 | oGALAXYo | nur falsch konfiguriert |
| 18:51.19 | er4z0r | oGALAXYo: lets stay english. you must mount a device to a folder right? |
| 18:51.26 | oGALAXYo | yes |
| 18:51.35 | titou | is there a solution to specify a program to play KDE notification ? |
| 18:51.53 | er4z0r | so /dev/hdc/ should be mounted to /media/cdrom0 right? |
| 18:51.57 | oGALAXYo | yes |
| 18:52.01 | oGALAXYo | for example |
| 18:52.10 | er4z0r | ok, but why does KDE check for hdc then? |
| 18:52.24 | oGALAXYo | the question is.. is it kde that does so ? |
| 18:52.37 | oGALAXYo | or is it some lower level stuff that sents wrong infos to kde ? |
| 18:52.43 | oGALAXYo | e.g. hal or udev |
| 18:53.07 | er4z0r | well, how to find out? |
| 18:53.17 | StevenR | er4z0r: paste the output of `cat /etc/fstab` and `ls /media` to a pastebin please |
| 18:53.18 | oGALAXYo | i cant answer your question correctly due to the bazillion of configurations, setups, systems etc. |
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| 18:53.42 | er4z0r | StevenR: now. Or do you mean for the future? |
| 18:53.48 | oGALAXYo | thats a big disadvantage of linux.. having 8972340988239075 distros |
| 18:54.04 | oGALAXYo | but its solvable.. definately. |
| 18:54.25 | StevenR | er4z0r: well if you want help, then seeing them would be handy |
| 18:54.34 | er4z0r | k |
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| 18:58.05 | er4z0r | StevenR: http://pastebin.com/483191 |
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| 19:00.22 | StevenR | er4z0r: there's nothing wrong there that I can see..can you mount mnually correctly? |
| 19:00.56 | er4z0r | StevenR: yep, doing a mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt works |
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| 19:01.31 | er4z0r | I will try to mount it manually but still with using fstab |
| 19:01.46 | StevenR | er4z0r: maybe set the fstypes to auto instead of multiple types as you have |
| 19:02.53 | er4z0r | hmm shouldn't be the problem |
| 19:03.05 | er4z0r | I just tried: mount /media/cdrom0 |
| 19:03.19 | er4z0r | so that it get mounted according to fstab |
| 19:03.30 | er4z0r | didn't make any problems |
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| 19:10.46 | rohan | hi all |
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| 19:12.03 | StevenR | er4z0r: using hal/udev? |
| 19:12.23 | rohan | hi all |
| 19:12.27 | rohan | on arch linux, when i enable hal in "Kcontrol -> Peripherals -> Removable Media" , no icons appear |
| 19:12.44 | rohan | in system:media/ and cd polling works |
| 19:12.59 | rohan | but if i disable hal, icons appear in system:media/ , and cd polling breaks |
| 19:13.05 | rohan | i am using hal and udev |
| 19:13.37 | er4z0r | StevenR: using Ubuntu so I think its at least hal |
| 19:13.53 | StevenR | er4z0r: sounds like an ubuntu issue...maybe try #ubuntu? |
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| 19:15.37 | rohan | is er4z0r having same issues like me ? |
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| 19:19.12 | er4z0r | rohan: don't know |
| 19:19.18 | er4z0r | could be |
| 19:19.18 | rohan | er4z0r: ok. |
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| 19:55.06 | sredna | fangorious: There are not nearly as much extensions for konqueror, and what is there can be installed from kde packages (try kdeaddons) |
| 19:55.35 | sredna | fangorious: And konqueror has a lot more built in pr default than firefox (like web search capabilities) |
| 19:57.40 | annma | lol |
| 19:57.54 | fangorious | sredna: the included search bar (i have kde 3.4.3 as packaged with kubuntu 5.10) has no configuration options, and I don't see any way to add/remove engines in its drop-down menu. The "select search engines" drop-down menu item takes to the shortcuts configuration screen |
| 19:57.57 | annma | <grunt>Sredna</grunt> |
| 19:57.57 | sredna | annma: There is about 309485734985 tags/word |
| 19:58.08 | annma | yes |
| 19:58.32 | sredna | fangorious: Try the web shortcuts in the configuraiton dialog |
| 19:59.12 | sredna | annma: And yet (or maybe therefore), it's about impossible to achieve a simple taks... |
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| 19:59.25 | fangorious | sredna: I can, but I don't want to have to remember a dozen shortcuts for search engines, I want them to show up in the drop-down menu |
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| 19:59.47 | annma | docbook is somehow uncoherent |
| 19:59.48 | sredna | fangorious: Check the checkbox next to the ones you want in the search toolbar |
| 20:00.22 | fangorious | sredna: and the shortcuts are for the location bar, not the search bar ... and I don't have any checkboxes. maybe that's something new in 3.5 |
| 20:00.29 | annma | woooow, sredna |
| 20:00.30 | sredna | And I dont write the text - marking up takes many minutes pr item |
| 20:00.40 | annma | yes |
| 20:01.22 | sredna | fangorious: The shortcuts are for the search toolbar too. In there, you pick one and does not have to use the actual identifyer |
| 20:02.48 | sredna | fangorious: I know, because I actually tested it, even I don't use the search toolbar |
| 20:03.04 | sredna | annma: About 20 or so to go |
| 20:03.50 | sredna | annma: But hey, I will be able to do it before midnight, if I don't fall asleep or gets too annoyed (I'll try avoiding that by chatting once in a while) |
| 20:04.21 | fangorious | sredna: did it change from 3.4.3 to 3.5? |
| 20:04.28 | sredna | fangorious: Maybe |
| 20:04.42 | sredna | fangorious: If you don't have checkboxes, it did |
| 20:04.50 | sredna | (in 3.4.3) |
| 20:05.01 | sredna | It's an obvious step ;) |
| 20:07.38 | fangorious | sredna: well, I guess I'll have to wait to get 3.5, then, because the one I have is pitifully unconfigurable. In fact, nothing listed as an Extension or a Tool in Settings->Configure Extensions has any configuration options at all. They all just say "(This plugin is not configurable)" |
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| 20:15.14 | Griffter2k | Hey guys, anyone know how to change the K Menu button? |
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| 20:15.53 | Griffter2k | Oh, I'm running KDE 3.4 |
| 20:15.55 | thiago | Griffter2k: kmenu.png |
| 20:16.20 | Griffter2k | thiago: So there's no option to change it? You just change the image it loads? |
| 20:16.55 | sredna | ~kmenu |
| 20:16.57 | apt | kmenu is probably at http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2567213 |
| 20:17.26 | sredna | Griffter2k: I believe it's in the FAQ |
| 20:17.36 | Griffter2k | thnx |
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| 20:22.24 | thiago | hmm... I have a suggestion to the FAQ |
| 20:22.41 | thiago | I think adding a new file called ~/.kde/share/icons/kmenu.png is actually better |
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| 20:27.34 | PhilRod | thiago: you mean rather than adding it in $KDEDIR? |
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| 21:18.11 | fredrikk | I've set it up ok in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf and restart hcid. |
| 21:19.41 | fredrikk | ..and all I see in syslog is "pin_code_request (sba=foo, dba=bar) |
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| 21:41.05 | BlackBsd | how can i change just the icon of the kmenu start button to something that i want? |
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| 21:50.10 | bjohnson | slowww keyss |
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| 21:50.23 | bjohnson | offfffffff help |
| 21:50.45 | dgrant | where is the address book stored for kaddressbook? I backed up my old .kde3.4 profile and created a new one from scratch...now I need to grab the old one and copy it over |
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| 21:52.28 | oGALAXYo | search for a file named 'vcf' or something |
| 21:52.41 | oGALAXYo | .kde3.4/share/apps/... something there iirc. |
| 21:52.54 | oGALAXYo | or config/apps or something |
| 21:53.04 | dgrant | oGALAXYo: ok, I was searching for address and didn't find anything. I'll try that. brb |
| 21:53.21 | oGALAXYo | in worst case search for an address or person you know.. the file is a textfile. |
| 21:53.29 | straw | hm, looks like ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc |
| 21:53.36 | kendrick | oh good lord |
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| 21:54.02 | bjohnson | ahh .. that's better |
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| 21:55.07 | dgrant | straw: oGALAXYo: I see 7 files there... one with .vcf, then .vcf_1, .vcf_2, etc... The .vcf one has the most recent date. It must create auto-backups or something? Cool |
| 21:55.20 | oGALAXYo | yep |
| 21:55.25 | oGALAXYo | copy them over all |
| 21:55.49 | Latino | I'm using Kanotix 2005-4 and kde3.5 from alioth. is there a howto for downgrade to 3.4.3? |
| 21:55.49 | dgrant | oGALAXYo: that might screw things up...maybe I should do an import? |
| 21:56.07 | oGALAXYo | do as you wish |
| 21:56.20 | oGALAXYo | but vcf which is a vcard specification |
| 21:56.32 | oGALAXYo | has fixed terms and keywords for its values |
| 21:56.39 | oGALAXYo | so you can copy it over 1:1 without dataloss |
| 21:57.18 | dgrant | oGALAXYo: I meant that copying it over it might not see it automatically. it might need to have a reference to it in the rc file or something... |
| 21:57.26 | dgrant | I just did an import and it seemed to work fine |
| 21:57.28 | dgrant | thakns! |
| 21:57.31 | oGALAXYo | ok |
| 21:57.39 | oGALAXYo | thats what matters at the end. |
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| 22:01.57 | annma | re |
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| 22:09.41 | BlackBsd | how can i change just the kmenu icon? |
| 22:09.49 | annma | look in the FAQ |
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| 22:09.55 | annma | link in topic |
| 22:09.55 | nixnoob | Hi all I have been having some gtk issues with some programs |
| 22:09.58 | nixnoob | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.00 | nixnoob | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.23 | annma | nixnoob: ask your distro channel |
| 22:11.24 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, which distro are you running? |
| 22:11.32 | nixnoob | gentoo |
| 22:11.59 | annma | nixnoob: ask in #gentoo |
| 22:12.00 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, should be able to emerge it, but I'm a slackware user and not much help to you |
| 22:12.15 | annma | I don't see why you cannot install only gtk |
| 22:12.38 | nixnoob | Iam just having alot of problems with kmplayer and xine |
| 22:12.57 | annma | you should not |
| 22:13.11 | annma | in #gentoo they'll help you though |
| 22:13.50 | nixnoob | yeah I asked alot of gentoo users are pro "fluxbox" |
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| 22:14.14 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, well google for installing gtk on gentoo |
| 22:14.17 | annma | nixnoob: the #gentoo channel will help you |
| 22:14.28 | annma | and read the gentoo doc as well |
| 22:15.32 | nixnoob | kk thanks as always this channel has lots of ppl willing to chat and help :) |
| 22:16.27 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, im actually rather new here.... as of last night, but ill have to agree with you on that :) |
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| 22:17.48 | nixnoob | I love KDE and Gentoo :-) |
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| 22:18.44 | nixnoob | I have also been trying to solve automounting using dbus hal and pmount having quite got it working yet |
| 22:19.47 | annma | hmm, wih Gentoo you have some config to do I suppose |
| 22:19.55 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, have you tried putting the media applet in kicker? |
| 22:20.04 | nixnoob | yep did that |
| 22:20.15 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, then just make sure the "users" flag is in the device inside fstab |
| 22:20.29 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, i can provide a better example if you need help |
| 22:20.33 | nixnoob | annma: I think your right I need to do something with hal.conf |
| 22:20.39 | nixnoob | okay thanks |
| 22:20.50 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, i personally am not a fan of auto mounting |
| 22:21.18 | nixnoob | yeah true its just a pain to goto konsole all the time for me |
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| 22:22.38 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, if you have fstab setup correctly you can just click mount in the media applet and it works |
| 22:22.44 | SMiLeaf | nixnoob: you can always use the system:/ or media:/ in konq. |
| 22:23.04 | AcidTonic | SMiLeaf, hey there mate, finally get some rest? |
| 22:23.05 | nixnoob | what should I add to fstab? |
| 22:23.18 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, well find the line starting with the devices you want to mount |
| 22:23.26 | SMiLeaf | AcidTonic: lots of it. and I've lost my voice now completely ;) |
| 22:23.38 | kommerck | btw is it normal then if I mount with HAL and don't have my pen drive in fstab KDE can't umount it |
| 22:23.45 | nixnoob | I can post my fstab if nessesary really quick |
| 22:23.46 | kommerck | s/then/that/ |
| 22:24.04 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, then the second to the last group of words you will see something like defaults,owner,ro just leave whatever is there and add users to the comma seperated list |
| 22:24.21 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, can you figure it out that ^^^? |
| 22:24.28 | nixnoob | oh yeah |
| 22:24.29 | SMiLeaf | the only sign language I know is "hi", "how are you", and "I'm full", "pig" :/ |
| 22:24.37 | SMiLeaf | oh yah "I'm fine" |
| 22:25.06 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, like mine for my cdrom looks like this noauto,owner,users,ro |
| 22:25.13 | SMiLeaf | can't carry on too much of a conversation with just those phrases :( |
| 22:25.31 | AcidTonic | SMiLeaf, that was me a few weeks ago.... |
| 22:25.53 | SMiLeaf | AcidTonic: you didn't have to give this to me then! |
| 22:25.53 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, you do know what we mean by fstab right? its located at /etc/fstab |
| 22:26.03 | nixnoob | yeah im in it now |
| 22:26.11 | AcidTonic | SMiLeaf, hehe, a new definition of "virus" |
| 22:26.12 | AcidTonic | hehe |
| 22:26.30 | SMiLeaf | AcidTonic: and it's transmittable even tho I run linux T.T;; |
| 22:27.01 | nixnoob | in owner I put username? |
| 22:27.07 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, just add the users option to whatever devices you want a user to be able to mount, for the media applet and konqueror and such, a user must be able to mount the device |
| 22:27.20 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, dont erase anything, just add a comma at the end and put users |
| 22:27.28 | nixnoob | kk ill try thanks |
| 22:27.32 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, if you wanna paste that one line, ill paste back the changes |
| 22:27.40 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, just dont flood |
| 22:27.45 | nixnoob | /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,ro 0 0 |
| 22:27.55 | AcidTonic | /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,users,ro 0 0 |
| 22:28.01 | AcidTonic | see how easy that is :) |
| 22:28.05 | nixnoob | I just need my cdrom to automount |
| 22:28.08 | nixnoob | yeah thx |
| 22:28.14 | carramba | AcidTonic: users? not user? |
| 22:28.30 | AcidTonic | carramba, for him either should work, i doubt hes running a multiuser machine |
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| 22:28.47 | SMiLeaf | carramba: allows all users to mount and unmount.. even if the unmounter wasn't the mounter. |
| 22:28.50 | AcidTonic | carramba, if so i would have said user.... some people try to make another account and it doesnt work |
| 22:29.07 | AcidTonic | SMiLeaf, i think he was just wondering why i didnt say user |
| 22:29.28 | SMiLeaf | AcidTonic: oh well.. can't talk IRL might as well waste my internet breath ;) |
| 22:29.38 | carramba | exactly, I was just wondering, that's all |
| 22:29.56 | SMiLeaf | that wasn't something I knew up until a few months ago |
| 22:29.58 | AcidTonic | carramba, and besides with the simple questions hes asking (no offense nixnoob) he doesnt know how to secure a machine anyway and i bet thats not the only problem |
| 22:30.08 | AcidTonic | carramba, yea |
| 22:30.28 | nixnoob | well I know howto use iptables lol |
| 22:30.45 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, ill let you in on an amazing program, check out fwbuilder |
| 22:30.49 | SMiLeaf | nixnoob: your a genious then! :D |
| 22:30.49 | nixnoob | but thats about it |
| 22:30.58 | nixnoob | yeah Ive used fwbuilder |
| 22:31.04 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, I use that to remotely manage the firewalls on machines at work |
| 22:31.14 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, I'm a linux sysadmin for a small ISP |
| 22:31.31 | nixnoob | well Im not completly stupid but I did only do a stage3 install of gentoo on ppc lol |
| 22:31.51 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, I run slackware on all our servers and my personal machines |
| 22:31.57 | SMiLeaf | stage3 always use to bust on me.. stage2 worked beautifully tho :D |
| 22:32.31 | nixnoob | it was such a pain to get X working I had to do modelines from scratch |
| 22:32.41 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, what video card? |
| 22:32.47 | nixnoob | I guess apple hardware wasnt made for Linux :) |
| 22:32.57 | nixnoob | ati 7500 |
| 22:33.02 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, there are special distros for macs |
| 22:33.12 | nixnoob | Yeh but yellowdog linux sux |
| 22:33.32 | AcidTonic | I'm an nvidia fanboy anyway, their linux drivers and litteraly point and click, (with the enter key of course) |
| 22:33.57 | SMiLeaf | nVidia is so much better in linux than ATI. |
| 22:34.21 | AcidTonic | ./nvidia-version-arch.run when not in x, then add the driver to xorg.conf and restart X, works every time |
| 22:34.31 | nixnoob | check this out http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c307/emacspy/749c0d55.png |
| 22:34.36 | kommerck | for ATI 7500 just use the radeon DRI driver, fglrx drivers WON'T work |
| 22:35.08 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, you referring to pearpc? im trying not to squint to read that window title |
| 22:35.18 | nixnoob | nah MacOnLinux |
| 22:35.24 | AcidTonic | xmag to the rescue |
| 22:35.25 | kommerck | Xorg DRI drivers work even on ppc I think |
| 22:35.41 | nixnoob | it used the OSX partition its a little different from an emu |
| 22:35.48 | AcidTonic | I use DRI for the supersavage on my Thinkpad T23 |
| 22:36.01 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, pearpc is a famous emu for linux |
| 22:36.15 | nixnoob | yeah I wanna try that soon |
| 22:36.23 | nixnoob | its like a processer emu i think |
| 22:36.38 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, stay away from cherryos, its a commercial rip off of pearpc and its not oss |
| 22:36.47 | nixnoob | kk |
| 22:36.49 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, its far more complicated trust me |
| 22:37.21 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, it emulates another arch, meaning the flow of info and instruction sets and all, very complicated work |
| 22:37.40 | nixnoob | hmm lol |
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| 22:38.27 | nixnoob | Iam happy enought to have OSX run inside Linux |
| 22:38.49 | AcidTonic | IBMs hardware rules, with AIX you can do just about anything without shutting down the machine |
| 22:39.13 | AcidTonic | swapping out processors, ram, harddrives..... with a few commands you just route the os to other modules then shut them off |
| 22:39.27 | AcidTonic | I'm real eager to learn it |
| 22:40.27 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, any luck with gtk or your mounting issues? |
| 22:40.29 | nixnoob | I wish I could afford new stuff but its hard when your self-imployed lol |
| 22:40.44 | AcidTonic | employed? |
| 22:40.58 | nixnoob | not gtk yet but editing fstb worked thanks |
| 22:41.04 | nixnoob | yeah |
| 22:41.13 | AcidTonic | nixnoob, yeah thats how i do my mounting |
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| 22:52.17 | Nikhil2 | hi, I am wondering if there is a way to use KDE application associations to open a file from the shell |
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| 22:54.20 | annma | Nikhil2: explain |
| 22:55.00 | Nikhil2 | I am writing an app which needs to open files using application associations. For instance on the mac I can do "open ex.pdf" in the shell and it will know what app to use.. |
| 22:56.17 | annma | when you click on a file in kde it opens in the correct prog |
| 22:56.30 | annma | so it is doable |
| 22:56.31 | Nikhil2 | yes, I would like to do that from the shell |
| 22:56.42 | annma | like when you paste an url here |
| 22:56.50 | annma | I click on it and konq opens |
| 22:56.59 | annma | just look at kde code to see how this is done |
| 22:57.20 | Nikhil2 | ok...I will do that...I was hoping there was a facility already in place |
| 22:57.23 | Nikhil2 | thanks |
| 22:57.39 | annma | there is probably, just that iy does ot come to me like hat |
| 22:57.42 | annma | hat/that |
| 22:57.45 | carramba | annma: well ... |
| 22:58.08 | carramba | annma: I can think about mime handling |
| 22:58.14 | carramba | annma: for that purpose |
| 22:59.07 | carramba | annma: for example in my system I have run-mailcap command (among see, edit and others) |
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| 22:59.32 | carramba | annma: it executes application connected to mime type of specified file |
| 22:59.36 | annma | yes |
| 22:59.40 | annma | carramba: I know all that |
| 22:59.53 | annma | I think Nikhil2 wants to know how it is done in kde |
| 22:59.58 | annma | Nikhil2: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/kdeqt/kde3arch/mime.html |
| 23:00.01 | carramba | annma: oops, it wasn't your question, sorry :) |
| 23:00.35 | Nikhil2 | carramba: that is exactly what I was looking for...thanks |
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| 23:06.55 | ptfd9100 | multisynk experts here? |
| 23:08.08 | AcidTonic | ptfd9100, whats your question/problem? |
| 23:08.26 | AcidTonic | ptfd9100, I'm not an expert but i might be able to help |
| 23:08.28 | sredna | annma: Done!!! |
| 23:08.36 | annma | :)))))))) |
| 23:08.41 | annma | congrats and many thanks |
| 23:08.47 | sredna | annma: :-) |
| 23:08.47 | annma | you rock |
| 23:08.52 | ptfd9100 | multisynk just sits there and stares at me about half of the time, the other half it says it can't read axim info? |
| 23:09.03 | ptfd9100 | multisynk just sits there and stares at me about half of the time, the other half it says it can't read axim "DATA rather" |
| 23:09.22 | sredna | Now, go read it and say if there are some bad errors (the doc is fine, I changed very little of Dominiks text) |
| 23:09.25 | AcidTonic | ptfd9100, what devices / programs are you trying to sync |
| 23:09.26 | ptfd9100 | everything elsa seems to work... |
| 23:09.41 | ptfd9100 | korganizer and teh addressbook |
| 23:10.14 | ptfd9100 | theh pocketpc is a dell axim x50 running WM2003 SE |
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| 23:10.38 | AcidTonic | hmm I have a zaurus personally, never had any problems.... sorry |
| 23:10.53 | AcidTonic | ptfd9100, do they have an irc channel? |
| 23:10.57 | ptfd9100 | I can copy files around with raki fine... |
| 23:11.01 | AcidTonic | ptfd9100, or check out the mailing list |
| 23:11.12 | AcidTonic | http://multisync.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=support |
| 23:11.17 | ptfd9100 | I think synce has a channel, multisynk too? |
| 23:12.40 | ptfd9100 | that is mailing list for multisync, ?? multisynk? |
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| 23:15.58 | sredna | annma: Uhm, now I also got it comitted, I didn't notice it failed before |
| 23:16.01 | sredna | :\ |
| 23:16.16 | sredna | But now you can check it out if you want to |
| 23:17.07 | annma | :) I will |
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| 23:18.20 | annma | what fails? |
| 23:18.51 | sredna | Oh, my files were not up to date |
| 23:18.55 | sredna | I just had to update |
| 23:19.11 | spenser | Hey guys. An old fluxbox guy has a question. I recently switched to KDE after being blown away by the look and even more importantly the speed of kde. I'm doing a little customizing and have changed the theme for KDM, and my background in KDE, and also the splash screen that shows while kde is loading. |
| 23:19.20 | sredna | ... and looking closer at my text, I still miss a few markup details :p |
| 23:19.48 | spenser | but after the kde splash screen goes away it shows a different background then changes to mine. what is the name of the first background that shows and where can i change that setting? |
| 23:20.28 | superstoned | haaa, spenser, i would love to know ;-) |
| 23:20.49 | superstoned | seriously, i think it might very well be the background root choose... |
| 23:20.59 | Bonkie | it isnt the default kde background ? |
| 23:21.01 | superstoned | or something in X (the default X picture?) |
| 23:21.40 | spenser | the distro i am using is Whax. based on Slax. It has a default background that i changed. when it boots it shows the original background then switches to mine |
| 23:21.49 | annma | sredna: wooow, it looks good |
| 23:22.06 | sredna | It shows the kdm background until yours is ready, that normally happens before the splash is closed |
| 23:22.09 | sredna | annma: Ty :) |
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| 23:22.22 | spenser | and actually shows a blue screen before it shows the original background. I have found the source of hte blue through the system administration tools in the control center and the login manager. |
| 23:22.28 | Bonkie | yes, here it shows kdm background as well |
| 23:22.35 | spenser | gotcha |
| 23:22.35 | sredna | I missed a few <parameter>, which I will add as they greatly improves the readability |
| 23:22.36 | superstoned | aaaah sredna > you're right this can be set up |
| 23:22.44 | spenser | where would I change that background? |
| 23:23.18 | superstoned | spenser: just choose the background in kcontrol -> loginscreen. |
| 23:23.20 | superstoned | afaik... |
| 23:23.31 | spenser | superstoned, ok. thanks |
| 23:23.38 | superstoned | you can then choose a theme with kdmtheme (kde-apps.org). should work. |
| 23:23.44 | spenser | i'm still having a hard time believing how fast it runs |
| 23:24.18 | spenser | after years with flux and the occasional run-in with gnome on red hat boxes I stayed away from the big desktop environments. |
| 23:24.18 | superstoned | yeah, and KDE 4 will be MUCH faster ;-) |
| 23:24.29 | superstoned | also with the latest patches for speed it starts up 50% faster. |
| 23:24.30 | spenser | i decided to give kde a shot again since i hadn't used it in years. |
| 23:24.32 | spenser | unreal |
| 23:24.45 | spenser | wow, 50% faster? |
| 23:24.54 | superstoned | or more. |
| 23:25.05 | superstoned | from 10 to 5 sec, as fast as XFCE (old laptop) |
| 23:25.21 | spenser | right now kde is faster than my windows desktop. i never thought i would see the day when a real linux desktop was as fast as the windowsone. |
| 23:25.55 | spenser | i'm gonna give this login screen a shot. brb |
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| 23:26.59 | superstoned | http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/performance/patches/ |
| 23:27.04 | superstoned | hey goin' to bed |
| 23:27.05 | superstoned | later |
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| 23:43.13 | KiLOS | hello |
| 23:43.19 | KiLOS | can somebody help me with k3b? |
| 23:43.33 | KiLOS | it won't copy an encrypted dvd, but it will for everyone else |
| 23:43.55 | KiLOS | i have the latest version, and i got it from packman |
| 23:44.17 | Bonkie | maybe you need the css stuff ? |
| 23:47.03 | KiLOS | i have libdvdcss |
| 23:47.15 | KiLOS | i can play the movie, just not copy it |
| 23:47.27 | KiLOS | i even own the stupid movie, don't even want a copy of this movie |
| 23:47.36 | KiLOS | all i want is to be able to copy a movie in the future |
| 23:47.49 | KiLOS | and to test it and get it ready now |
| 23:47.53 | KiLOS | really making me angry |
| 23:48.25 | Bonkie | err, dont know much about k3b, but id check css support in k3b |
| 23:48.36 | KiLOS | any idea where to look for that? |
| 23:49.58 | Bonkie | nope |
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