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00:01.45 | KDE | What controls how kde accesses files ? |
00:01.54 | frb | eh? |
00:01.55 | KDE | like how does kde access files |
00:02.06 | KDE | what library or whatever does it use |
00:02.08 | frb | telepathy |
00:02.16 | KDE | true |
00:03.03 | KDE | Nah it is just kde is having a cry with anything to do with file browsing ... it takes forever to load ... console seems to be able to browse ok |
00:03.20 | scx | ok Im' compailing the flash installer, but shows me only the Mozilla and opera options as user, and as root asks me for the route to install |
00:03.34 | frb | install for mozilla, konq can find it |
00:03.45 | scx | but if I install in mozilla's path, |
00:03.54 | frb | aren't you on suse? |
00:04.10 | scx | and the rescan plugins in konqueror settings is the right way ? |
00:04.23 | scx | frb: yes |
00:04.41 | scx | frb: what's up ? |
00:05.22 | frb | suse has rpm installer for flash |
00:05.32 | frb | you get it from YOU if you are on Suse 9.3 |
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00:05.57 | scx | frb: I know, but my Konqueror does not load it.... so I'll try to compile it |
00:06.08 | frb | WFM |
00:06.20 | scx | "Unable to load Netscape plugin sais" |
00:07.14 | peratu | scx: http://macromedia.rediris.es/rep_ri.html |
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00:10.19 | muesli | hey guys |
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00:10.35 | muesli | anyone in here a linux journal subscriber? |
00:11.41 | Mr_You | is there a way to configure the pager to enable keystrokes to switch desktops? |
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00:14.05 | annma | Mr_You: in Keyboard SHortcut, in KControl |
00:14.15 | Mr_You | danke |
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00:14.56 | KDE | Incase anyone cares i fixed my kde file access problem ... i had an old udev config from when i updated it the other day |
00:14.58 | scx | I did with: /opt/mozilla/lib and konqui does not find flashplayer... |
00:15.10 | Mr_You | KControl = Control Center? |
00:15.22 | scx | Mr_You: yes |
00:15.22 | pinotree | Mr_You: yep |
00:15.22 | annma | yes :) |
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00:19.13 | scx | I'll try tomorrow, with patience to compare rpm and macromedia's instaler,besides check paths and so on... |
00:19.18 | scx | tnkz |
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00:21.28 | [t0rc] | Is there a way to get KDE to use images, etc from external sources (i've got more than one HDD, it won't let me use images as BG's from the other HDD's, says the source has to be local) any hack around this? Thanks. Apologies if it's a nub question, but an answer nontheless would be appreciated. |
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00:24.55 | thiago | [t0rc]: let me test something |
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00:25.46 | [t0rc] | thiago: alright, thanks. :) |
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00:26.22 | thiago | [t0rc]: that's a bug |
00:26.46 | thiago | please go to bugs.kde.org and file it against kdesktop. I'll confirm it. |
00:26.55 | [t0rc] | thiago: really? hmm...didn't think it would be. Any workarounds known yet or they fixing it in next version? |
00:27.06 | thiago | meanwhile, you can select the file by going to the mountpoint of the file instead of using media:/ |
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00:28.34 | [t0rc] | thiago: umm...clarification on what you mean by the mount point vs. media:/ ? |
00:30.52 | thiago | find the file by browsing your system (type / in the location) |
00:31.36 | [t0rc] | mmm...so you mean like /dev/hd2 or something? |
00:32.08 | hydrogen | no |
00:32.22 | hydrogen | you need to mount the disks |
00:32.41 | [t0rc] | they're mounted |
00:32.51 | thiago | [t0rc]: no, by the mount point |
00:32.59 | thiago | a device has to be mounted to be accessible |
00:33.26 | thiago | go to media:/, right click the device and select "Open Medium System Folder" |
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00:34.28 | [t0rc] | oooo |
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00:36.38 | smithjd | Where are the widget sets usually stored on the filesystem? |
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00:37.57 | annma | smithjd: precise your questions? you mean KDE header files? |
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00:38.18 | Phily | I was told that the selection box (on the desktop) can be made semi transparent how do I set this option in kde 3.4.2 |
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00:39.30 | smithjd | annma: no, the theme files. Thanks though, I just re-merged a theme and found the path. =) |
00:39.44 | annma | ok |
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00:41.40 | annma | Phily: in KControl -> Appareance & Theme -> STyle |
00:42.06 | doleyb | How can I make the taskbar smaller than 25 pixels? (this was easy before 3.4) |
00:42.27 | annma | you mean the panel |
00:43.19 | doleyb | yeah ok "panel" |
00:44.08 | doleyb | why did 3.4 move the panel minimum height up to 25? |
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00:44.57 | canllaith | doleyb: it didn't.... |
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00:45.21 | canllaith | doleyb: the minimum panel height is still 24, what it's always been. |
00:45.30 | [t0rc] | thiago: thanks. |
00:45.41 | doleyb | canllaith: well, in 3.3 I had a 22 pixel panel. and now 3.4 won't let it be under 25 |
00:46.00 | canllaith | It's always been 24 for as long as I remember. |
00:46.08 | doleyb | can I edit a file instead of using gui? |
00:46.19 | canllaith | kickerrc |
00:46.41 | gravix | speaking of taskbar, is there an easy way to make the process buttons longer? i have lots of wasted space |
00:46.49 | annma | in your home, in .kde/share/config doleyb |
00:47.06 | canllaith | Well, in `kde-config --localprefix` |
00:47.14 | canllaith | you might have one of the strange distros that don't use .kde |
00:47.39 | annma | exact, canllaith |
00:47.58 | canllaith | doleyb: so there is under [General] a Size= |
00:48.17 | canllaith | It might be something strange like '3' - that just means 'the large preset' |
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00:48.37 | canllaith | You can make it anything in pixels from 24 -> seventy-something (I can't recall exactly) |
00:50.30 | gravix | mine is called CustomSize |
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00:50.50 | doleyb | yes i got it down to 23 by editing. |
00:51.15 | doleyb | which gives me one more line in text editors. |
00:51.23 | annma | mm, weird that it is 24 here |
00:51.44 | canllaith | gravix: that's only if you're using the custom preset atm |
00:51.51 | canllaith | Go and look in kicker settings. You can select large, small, custom... etc |
00:52.00 | canllaith | but manually setting Size= will change the size no matter what you have selected there. |
00:52.25 | gravix | canllaith: hmm. my selection is "large" but the "customsize" parameter was still configured by the GUI |
00:52.59 | canllaith | gravix: I don't understand what your point is? |
00:53.48 | jmg | hey guys |
00:53.53 | jmg | is there a sip phone app for kde yet |
00:53.59 | canllaith | there is a kphone I believe |
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00:54.23 | jmg | kphone doesnt work |
00:54.29 | canllaith | In which case, no clue. |
00:54.38 | jmg | is kopete getting sip? |
00:54.46 | canllaith | Not in the near future |
00:55.03 | jmg | maybe i should write the sip config :D |
00:55.11 | canllaith | :) |
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00:58.53 | propagandhi | jmg: the Xlite phone works well under linux |
00:59.30 | propagandhi | we're using asterisk here and its what i use at my desk |
01:00.15 | Phily | Hello all I<m I in the right channel to ask for usability questions |
01:01.28 | gravix | sure |
01:02.37 | Phily | gravix: I<ve got a bug my removable media does auto mount but when clicking on desktop device icons I get an error message |
01:02.51 | Ringwraith` | you are you in the channel? |
01:02.52 | Ringwraith` | wow |
01:03.02 | gravix | what error message? |
01:03.03 | Ringwraith` | you also have a bug with the ' of your keyboard |
01:03.22 | annma | Phily: ask please |
01:03.37 | annma | ah, I see |
01:03.40 | Phily | KIO Exec: /media/sda1 is a folder, but a file was expected |
01:04.07 | Phily | any idea, this is the only thing for my wife to fully use Linus |
01:04.37 | Phily | oops Linux |
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01:05.00 | Phily | that sentence really turn out weird |
01:05.17 | Phily | I,ve searched goggle kde no answer |
01:06.08 | Ringwraith` | Now you have a bug where your ' are , |
01:06.36 | Phily | Ringwraith`: bug? |
01:08.25 | Phily | Ringwraith`: Keyboard (french keyboard) is because I'm remotely logged in my machine and it is not configured |
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01:09.49 | Phily | annma: also when trying to navigate the trash can I get KIOExec: malformed url |
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01:13.08 | annma | Phily: using trash:/ ? |
01:13.32 | Phily | not in konqueror but with a panel applet |
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01:18.41 | annma | oh so the panel applet is buggy? |
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01:19.07 | Phily | annma: yep |
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01:20.17 | annma | is it shipped with kde? |
01:21.54 | Phily | annma: I don<t think I,m running kubuntu |
01:22.27 | annma | is it the trashbin icon? |
01:22.33 | annma | as an applet? |
01:23.01 | Phily | no trash bin on the desktop: do you know how to create one |
01:23.26 | Phily | annma: yep trasbin as an applet in the panel |
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01:24.08 | annma | and how can't you navigate it? |
01:24.39 | annma | I can open it, empty it |
01:24.59 | Phily | konqueror trash:/ |
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01:34.49 | jmg | anyone here use kphone? |
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01:51.29 | Chrisid | Im trying to install a program that required kde-config but it says kde-config was not found |
01:52.26 | Chrisid | where is kde-config located |
01:52.56 | thiago | in the KDE prefix |
01:53.08 | thiago | in the same place all other KDE programs are installed |
01:53.12 | thiago | where are your KDE programs installed? |
01:54.07 | Chrisid | i located it:/usr/kde/3.5/bin/kde-config |
01:54.31 | Chrisid | im a noob at linux, what can i do so the ./configure works |
01:54.36 | Chrisid | i have the locate of the thing it cant find |
01:55.15 | thiago | run this: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/kde/3.5/bin |
01:55.34 | Chrisid | it worked, what did that do |
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01:55.48 | Chrisid | add that to the environmental variables? |
01:56.42 | thiago | you may want to |
01:57.03 | Chrisid | what did the command that you told me do actually btw? |
01:58.21 | hydrogen | that overrode current path environment variable |
01:58.33 | hydrogen | to add /usr/kde/3.5/bin to it |
01:58.41 | hydrogen | so that bash searched there for programt o exec |
01:59.23 | Chrisid | oh ok |
01:59.41 | frb | it sends your path to the export authorities |
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02:07.49 | elisboa | Hi, how can I use a software midi-mapper under artsd? Where can I download one, so I can set it on kcontrol? |
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02:25.25 | jorgp3 | using kde 3.5 cvs, is there a way to round the edges of a panel bar? |
02:26.16 | jorgp3 | aseigo: is that possible? |
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02:27.12 | frb | every time I see aseigo's nick< it think of a cheese bagel |
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02:28.50 | crispynix-v6 | jorgp3: it's possible, but such functionality doesn't appear to be implemented yet. |
02:29.14 | jorgp3 | he will probably wait for kde 4 |
02:29.28 | crispynix-v6 | for something that minor? I'd hope not. |
02:29.52 | crispynix-v6 | then again, kicker is getting a major overhaul with kde4 |
02:29.54 | jorgp3 | I hope not too, but never know |
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02:30.38 | mzelem | Hello, Anyone know why Konqueror won't remember any of my new file associations if I attempt to change them? |
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02:32.38 | frb | because it's smarter than you ? |
02:32.38 | Chrisid | can somebody helpe me: http://pastebin.com/378392 |
02:32.46 | Chrisid | im trying to install a sound theme |
02:32.58 | mzelem | frb: wow, you're lots of help |
02:35.33 | illogic-al | Chrisid: are you using 3.4? |
02:35.47 | Chrisid | 3.5 |
02:35.57 | Chrisid | but thats not the problem |
02:35.57 | frb | mzelem: check permissions on .kde? see if anything in that tree is wonky? |
02:35.59 | illogic-al | then you already have that theme. |
02:36.07 | illogic-al | borealis became the defualt since 3.4 |
02:36.09 | Chrisid | really? |
02:36.14 | Chrisid | wow |
02:36.20 | Chrisid | didnt know that |
02:36.51 | frb | how do I add color schemes to kde? |
02:36.52 | illogic-al | arr matey |
02:36.59 | mzelem | k.. |
02:37.46 | crispynix-v6 | frb: run 'kcmshell colors' and click 'Import Scheme' |
02:38.01 | frb | how do I make a scheme to import? |
02:38.59 | crispynix-v6 | start changing colors (click a window portion, then click the color bar and select a color), and then save scheme and type a name |
02:39.59 | frb | I didnt even realize that that was a selector |
02:40.28 | hydrogen | amaroK is :) |
02:46.09 | crispynix-v6 | ooh, baghira 0.7 is out |
02:46.47 | frb | man, I want my box to look like OS2 not OSX! |
02:46.59 | crispynix-v6 | :D |
02:47.15 | frb | anyway, I'm getting a new PC |
02:47.25 | frb | http://phoenix.craigslist.org/sys/100735166.html |
02:47.28 | Chrisid | what are some of the differnces with the new kde 3.5 |
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02:47.44 | frb | Chrisid: it crashes faster |
02:47.52 | Chrisid | anything else :P? |
02:47.59 | frb | well, everything is faster really |
02:48.04 | crispynix-v6 | no crashes here so far *knocks on wood* |
02:48.27 | frb | kicker crashed within an hour |
02:48.28 | Chrisid | so speed increase is main thing? |
02:48.34 | frb | but it hasn't crashed since |
02:48.52 | crispynix-v6 | the panel transparency was changed, arts is being a bugger (idquake3 claims /dev/dsp is busy with an audigy 2; didn't happen with 3.4.2's arts) |
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02:49.03 | crispynix-v6 | or rather, panel applets' transparency |
02:49.50 | Phily | export DISPLAY=192.168.0.101:0.0 |
02:49.52 | illogic-al | wth is craig's list? |
02:49.57 | crispynix-v6 | seems great to me except for the arts thing |
02:50.04 | Chrisid | i just turned on transparancy, nothing seems different |
02:50.13 | Chrisid | well i dont notice any transparancy |
02:50.21 | Chrisid | do i have to close apps and reopen them |
02:50.25 | crispynix-v6 | the taskbar has different types of trans (elegant, classic, etc( |
02:50.34 | crispynix-v6 | same with the virtual desktop applet I think |
02:51.05 | crispynix-v6 | might have to restart your session |
02:51.11 | crispynix-v6 | if you haven't since upgrading |
02:51.46 | Chrisid | i upgraded and have restarted my session |
02:52.34 | Chrisid | should i click on apply translucency only to decoration |
02:52.55 | crispynix-v6 | well, the taskbar applet has several configuration options under Appearance: Elegant, Classic, and For Transparency |
02:53.41 | crispynix-v6 | plenty other things changed too, but that's what I noticed first <_< |
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02:59.50 | gKw-X | hello :) |
03:00.23 | crispynix-v6 | btw, is anyone aware that socks support is completely broken with debian and ubuntu, and has been for years probably? debian/ubuntu don't have libsocks5 (due to the license probably), and kdecore seems to be expecting some socks5 features from the lib(s) it finds. |
03:00.55 | hydrogen | thats a debian/ubuntu problem.. not kde |
03:01.17 | crispynix-v6 | maybe not -- I can't even download libsocks5 anymore, it doesn't seem to be available from NEC's site. |
03:01.49 | gKw-X | when i log in to kde i get a couple pop ups and i'm not sure how to get rid of them... one is kwrited, it says "kwrited - listening on device /dev/pts/3"... the other one is an error that it can't load the sound driver /dev/dsp |
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03:03.58 | jorgp3 | is that the same as kerberos |
03:04.19 | chrisag | anyone know the svn directory to kplato? |
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03:06.22 | gKw-X | anyone recognize those, or now how i can stop them from appearing? |
03:06.29 | Chrisid | transparancies are cool |
03:06.31 | Chrisid | I must say |
03:07.03 | Ringwraith` | Chrisid, are you a profesional eyecandyist? |
03:07.30 | Chrisid | Ringwraith: Yes, How did you know ? :P |
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03:09.08 | Chrisid | anybody here use tranparancies? |
03:10.34 | Phily | Chrisid: U mean window transparancies |
03:10.44 | frb | I use them in meetings, and lectures |
03:10.52 | frb | the OHP is cheaper than a projector |
03:11.07 | Phily | frb: lol |
03:13.03 | Chrisid | phily: yes |
03:13.08 | Chrisid | heh |
03:13.35 | Phily | Chrisid: I`ve used them but found them anoying more than anything but they are pretty. |
03:14.35 | Chrisid | Im checking them out, one annoyance i have is for things like gkrellm and also if im copy something from one window to another one window will be transparent |
03:14.37 | Chrisid | at least partially |
03:16.28 | frb | does kde have an app that can import wma and export mp3? |
03:16.39 | Phily | Chrisid: execpt for eye candy I could not find good use for them, I,m minimiliste when it comes to my desktop |
03:18.23 | Alethes | frb: I bet mplayer could do something like that |
03:18.41 | Chrisid | I think im going to turn off all translucency except for when the application is moving, this way i can see whats behind it which i find is cool and usefull |
03:20.00 | Phily | Chrisid: I actually find this to be a great idea. |
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03:20.34 | frb | that's a normal wm feature, isn't it |
03:20.40 | frb | you don't need composite for that one |
03:21.07 | Phily | frb: wm being windows manager |
03:21.14 | frb | of course |
03:21.15 | Phily | frb: enlignement? |
03:21.26 | Phily | frb: Which one enlignement |
03:21.26 | frb | screw E |
03:21.42 | Phily | frb: which wm has that feature |
03:22.02 | frb | I seem to remember wmaker I think |
03:22.07 | frb | it was a long time ago |
03:22.25 | frb | anyway, I have to be somewhere in 8 minutes |
03:22.28 | Phily | frb: I don't beleive that a feature in window maker |
03:22.34 | Phily | frb: salut le grand |
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03:30.15 | Alethes | canllaith: you around? |
03:33.48 | brucehoult | she must be afk |
03:33.53 | brucehoult | perhaps cooking :-) |
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03:56.14 | DrZoot | will koffice from trunk compile with qt3 or is it in the process of being ported to qt4? |
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03:56.54 | apprentice | does kde 3.5 comeo with the new kopete? |
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03:59.42 | Hobbsee | apprentice: kopete is showing 0.10 on kde 3.5 beta |
04:00.55 | apprentice | 0.10 is that the normal one. i have used cvs unstalbe |
04:00.57 | apprentice | so i dont know |
04:02.02 | Hobbsee | i just used the kubuntu built packages |
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04:18.56 | gravix | is it safe to put kdm in runlevel boot? |
04:19.08 | canllaith | could you explan what you mean gravix ? :) |
04:19.49 | gravix | i'm trying to get this laptop from power button to usable desktop as quickly as possible since I can't get hibernate working |
04:20.37 | canllaith | So - do you mean is it safe to have KDM launch automatically booting to a gui runlevel? |
04:22.00 | gravix | sorry for my lack of linux vocabulary... in gentoo, normally kdm is the last thing to load after everything else is done |
04:22.12 | canllaith | Ok |
04:22.30 | gravix | but since the cpu is idle through a lot of the loading stage, i figured i could save time by loading kdm earlier in the boot process |
04:22.49 | canllaith | I'm afraid I really don't know. Perhaps someone who also uses gentoo might though. |
04:23.03 | canllaith | Yknow, hibernation is really very easy and safe with swsup2, have you tried it? |
04:23.10 | gravix | okay, thank you, i will check in #gentoo also |
04:23.28 | crispynix-v6 | gravix: look into initng, perhaps... and you probably could safely make kdm start sooner, as long as anything it might depend on starts first (e.g. xfs if you use a font server) |
04:23.29 | gravix | yes, i am having trouble getting the kernel patched for swsusp2 |
04:23.46 | canllaith | Ah ok then. Just running the scripts worked for me, but I was using vanilla kernel.org sources |
04:24.05 | gravix | yes, i suspect that is my problem... i'm using modified gentoo-sources |
04:24.35 | gravix | crispynix-v6, thank you... i will try to figure out what things kdm needs |
04:24.54 | crispynix-v6 | gravix: initng can really speed up boot time as well, and it keeps things in order afaict |
04:25.10 | crispynix-v6 | gentoo should have it available; debian does |
04:25.39 | canllaith | I know that didn't help you any but I couldn't resist mentioning it =) IBM machines rock. |
04:27.23 | gravix | mine's an IBM R51 |
04:27.30 | apprentice | is that a nice machine? |
04:27.32 | gravix | it also comes out of suspend as requested and then reboots |
04:27.39 | gravix | very odd |
04:27.41 | canllaith | Hobbsee: heh I've had lots of trouble sorting it out :\ |
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04:27.50 | gravix | crispynix-v6, thank you, i will look into initng |
04:27.50 | canllaith | Hobbsee: and I do sometimes have sound refusing to come back on resume |
04:28.07 | canllaith | but that's nothing compared to the 'crash and burn requiring you to reset by removing the battery and power plug' |
04:28.18 | canllaith | That was my previous setup :\ |
04:28.21 | Hobbsee | lol |
04:28.24 | rseymour | does anyone know how to get a current winID using dcop (ie call getWinID on the window that has focus) |
04:28.28 | Hobbsee | power plug? what's that? |
04:28.33 | canllaith | ? |
04:28.44 | Hobbsee | laptop - no power point |
04:28.48 | canllaith | The cord that goes from the laptop to the wall |
04:29.03 | Hobbsee | well, not that you can switch off lol...it just drains the battery, then goes into suspend! |
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04:29.18 | canllaith | as batteries don't generally last long enough for you to not require any kind of mains power at all.... |
04:29.43 | Hobbsee | well yeah |
04:30.02 | Hobbsee | wish they did |
04:30.04 | gravix | have you guys gotten the middle button/trackpoint scroll to work right on the thinkpad? i got the scroll functionality working with scroll wheel emulation, but then it's not functional as a button anymore... eg no paste |
04:30.17 | canllaith | You can only have one or the other I believe. |
04:30.46 | gravix | ahhh! oh well, at least it's still the best scrolling device ever |
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04:31.04 | gravix | trackpoint scroll + SmoothScroll in firefox = bliss |
04:31.13 | redeeman | hello |
04:31.30 | crispynix-v6 | rseymour: no such function appears to be available (looking at kwin in kdcop) |
04:31.35 | redeeman | anyone know how to make konqueror's print to pdf/ps thing work? it just doesent seem to work - it creates basically empty files |
04:31.39 | redeeman | it only shows the header |
04:31.59 | rseymour | crispynix-v6: yeah, i'm wondering if there is some sort of default thing under qt |
04:32.02 | CHodapp | it always worked for me... do you need ghostscript or anything like that to be present? |
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04:32.21 | redeeman | i do have that |
04:32.31 | CHodapp | hrm |
04:32.46 | redeeman | when printing to postscript the file is simply corrupt |
04:32.48 | redeeman | nothing can open it |
04:33.01 | redeeman | and with pdf it only prints the header - with the date, url and page numer |
04:33.04 | redeeman | number* |
04:33.28 | redeeman | it just seems weird since printing to a printer works |
04:45.30 | dreamwave | in kaffiene, what's a player engine? |
04:45.41 | apprentice | its what method is uses |
04:45.43 | apprentice | to play ur sound |
04:45.59 | redeeman | and video |
04:46.04 | apprentice | true |
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04:46.27 | dreamwave | i need the one for mp3 streams from shoutcast. i don't seem to have any installed at the moment. |
04:46.27 | redeeman | the gstreamer one isnt very supporting yet |
04:46.32 | dreamwave | ah |
04:46.44 | redeeman | you cant not install the default one which is xine |
04:47.46 | Octane | is there any applet that brings you constant headlines to your desktop |
04:47.47 | dreamwave | hmm. xine-amarok is installed. i'll switch to amarok and see what happens. |
04:47.47 | apprentice | dont use kaffine then |
04:47.48 | rseymour | dcop kwin KWinInterface setOpacity $WINDOWID 75 |
04:47.52 | Octane | sort of like google desktop? |
04:47.53 | rseymour | that's kind of close |
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04:48.07 | rseymour | but that only works in terminals |
04:48.36 | CyberSpy | is anyone running 3.5 beta 1 with Fedora Core 4? |
04:51.18 | rseymour | with that command you can make your current terminal window go translucent (assuming you have that set up) |
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04:54.11 | crispynix-v6 | Octane: desktop or panel? there's knewsticker for the panel.. there's probably some rss app for the desktop too, but I haven't looked into it. (maybe karamba theme) |
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04:55.55 | gravix | i think Composite is pretty cool |
04:56.17 | crispynix-v6 | if only nvidia and ati would fix their drivers to work with it reliably :/ |
04:57.00 | gravix | alas... i want to try the unstable X so i can try EXA rendering on my mobile radeon |
04:57.02 | rseymour | yeah, gotta love the straight X11 crashes |
04:57.11 | gravix | it's too slow in the old mode for any kind of transparency |
04:57.20 | rseymour | although I haven't had a crash yet with my latest install |
04:57.33 | gravix | nvidia drivers have been very stable/fast for me. |
04:57.50 | crispynix-v6 | with nvidia's driver it usually causes problems when you start a 3D app; at least, it does here. |
04:58.04 | crispynix-v6 | if you have a composite manager running anyways |
04:58.14 | gravix | i'm sure it will... but i don't normally use them so that's not too big of an issue for me |
04:58.59 | gravix | glxgears 11621fps with composite running |
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04:59.04 | crispynix-v6 | the annoying thing is that nvidia could fix it if they cared to.. I mean, their driver already overclocks when it enters 3D mode, etc. |
04:59.11 | crispynix-v6 | heh |
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05:01.52 | gravix | heh |
05:01.57 | gravix | 3d screensaver crashed x |
05:02.09 | crispynix-v6 | nice |
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05:02.26 | lasindi | How do you enable logging in Kopete? |
05:02.38 | lasindi | (and how do you view the logs?) |
05:03.14 | canllaith | Settings -> Configure Plugins |
05:03.36 | canllaith | Enable the history plugin. There was once a bug where it would be ticked by default on a new install |
05:03.47 | canllaith | but not really functioning. If it's ticked, untick it, tick again and then restart kopete |
05:04.02 | canllaith | Then you should have a menu item when you right click on a contact to view history |
05:05.09 | lasindi | Thanks |
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05:12.09 | rseymour | alias tz='dcop kwin KWinInterface setOpacity $WINDOWID' |
05:12.33 | rseymour | then tz 75 brings you to 75% opacity etc etc. |
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06:01.42 | nostar | anyone know what i did to disable the keyboard in kde on fc4? i log into kde and i have no keyboard, im in gnome atm |
06:02.14 | chrisag | probably accidently picked one that didn't match in the keyboard selectoin |
06:02.16 | chrisag | selection |
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06:04.00 | nostar | i was never in such an area... i was just running an application. i did keep getting an accesibilty option pop up for holding down the shift key in the (non-kde) app i was using |
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06:04.14 | chrisag | could've been that |
06:04.28 | nostar | but what exactly so i can fix it |
06:04.38 | nostar | i just kept hitting cancel |
06:04.54 | chrisag | my best guess? find the kderc and see if you can find an option in there |
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06:10.08 | ShockValue | ok, stupid newb question.. somehow i lost my 'window list' from the panel.. i cant figure out how to add it back |
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06:10.34 | ShockValue | its not the "window list" button under special buttons category |
06:11.11 | Hobbsee | shockvalue: right click on kicker, add applet to panel |
06:11.23 | Hobbsee | then find the one labelled "taskbar" |
06:11.30 | ShockValue | yep, thanks :) |
06:11.33 | Hobbsee | :) |
06:11.47 | ShockValue | couldnt figure out which one it was for some reason.. im tired i think :) |
06:12.02 | Hobbsee | hehehe...if in doubt, pick any of them |
06:12.16 | ShockValue | i swear i went through 75%.. i musta just missed that one |
06:12.34 | Hobbsee | hehe |
06:12.43 | Hobbsee | it was clearly hiding from you |
06:12.53 | ShockValue | it was set to transperancy 100% :) |
06:13.46 | Hobbsee | lol...i've never seen why people like transperancy |
06:13.56 | Hobbsee | but definetly hidign on that basis! |
06:14.45 | ShockValue | i dunno.. i think it looks kinda cool in some applications.. i jst set the kicker to 50% white transperant and it blends yet contrasts <shrug> |
06:14.55 | ShockValue | certainly doesnt make or break anything though |
06:15.10 | Hobbsee | true |
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06:15.48 | Hobbsee | argh! be gone transparency |
06:15.54 | Hobbsee | got it |
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06:47.09 | marcusU | How do I get KDE to mount CD/DVD in the place that /etc/fstab specifies instead of /media/Volume_Label_Of_DVD |
06:48.18 | crispynix-v6 | The KDE developers felt it necessary to emulate GNOME's behaviour and use hal. I'm not sure there's an [easy] way to get it to honor fstab now. |
06:48.40 | Bieleke | mount <the place that /etc/fstab specifies) |
06:48.44 | marcusU | crispynix-v6: The problem is that I frequently end up with DVD/CD mounted twice! |
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06:49.17 | marcusU | Bieleke: That only works if I mount the disk by command line and not by double-clicking on the desktop icon. |
06:49.52 | Bieleke | ah ok, was just trying to help :-) |
06:50.25 | marcusU | Bieleke: I'm just frustrated. I've tried both approaches: trying to get automounting to work well and trying not to automount at all. |
06:50.34 | marcusU | K3B tells me that I should disable automounting. |
06:50.35 | Bieleke | well on my SuSE and openSuSE box the mount is automaticly |
06:50.59 | crispynix-v6 | you could complain to the hal developers about it completely ignoring fstab, a standard on *nix-like OSes for who knows how many years. Otherwise, try to use either fstab or hal, not both. |
06:51.01 | marcusU | Yeah, but I think automounting caused my CD burn to fail. K3B says that you should disable it. |
06:51.13 | Bieleke | ah, now i understand. |
06:51.56 | crispynix-v6 | er, try to use either fstab or hal for removable devices.. you still need fstab for e.g. hard drives. |
06:52.20 | marcusU | crispynix-v6: Using HAL seems incompatible with burning media. |
06:52.23 | crispynix-v6 | and if you want to use hal, disable automount/supermount/etc. |
06:52.30 | crispynix-v6 | marcusU: heh |
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06:57.52 | marcusU | I wonder how Apple handles removeable media that can be written. That's when things seem to be messed up. |
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07:00.47 | canllaith | marcusU: apple force you to manually unmount the device. |
07:01.03 | marcusU | canllaith: Did you see my problem above? |
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07:01.48 | canllaith | marcusU: yes, and as I have no automount at all I have no clue. |
07:01.56 | canllaith | Well I might now, I just installed suse. Under slackware I didn't though. |
07:02.29 | marcusU | canllaith: Even without automounting, I was getting KDE mounting the DVD in a different location from what's in /etc/fstab. |
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07:03.45 | marcusU | But at least before, I wasn't getting problems writing RW media. Then I enabled hal and stuff. And that's when it starting acting up. Now I'm back to the way it was befor,e I think. |
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07:05.58 | bjv | if i run KDE will gnome apps seem slower then their counterparts? |
07:06.19 | bjv | or if i ran just X with a lightweight wm, would k & g apps seem equally slow? |
07:06.20 | marcusU | You can use both KDE and GNOME. They aren't mutually exclusive. |
07:06.30 | bjv | or does kde not help accelerate k apps. |
07:06.30 | bjv | i know. |
07:06.33 | canllaith | gnome apps run just fine under KDE. |
07:06.43 | canllaith | KDE apps run a little slower under other WM |
07:06.46 | canllaith | as kdeinit isn't running |
07:07.03 | marcusU | When you say "run KDE", are you talking about using kwin/kdesktop versus the GNOME equivalents? |
07:07.03 | canllaith | They take a bit longer to startup outside of KDE |
07:07.08 | gravix | i have some color problems with gnome apps under kde other than that it's good |
07:07.41 | bjv | marcusU: yes, i was just wondering if kapps get any preloading benifits or similar from me using the kdesktop |
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07:12.38 | canllaith | bjv: they do. |
07:13.07 | bjv | yeah, im beginning to see that. |
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07:16.35 | bjv | kspread |
07:16.35 | bjv | <PROTECTED> |
07:16.35 | bjv | gnumeric |
07:16.35 | bjv | <PROTECTED> |
07:16.54 | bjv | too bad oleo!! sucks. :( |
07:16.55 | bjv | oocalc |
07:16.55 | bjv | <PROTECTED> |
07:16.55 | bjv | oleo |
07:16.55 | bjv | <PROTECTED> |
07:17.16 | gravix | huh? |
07:17.59 | bjv | kspread's launching faster then gnumeric |
07:18.10 | bjv | but the crappy oleo is pwning them all. |
07:19.01 | gravix | i don't have oleo |
07:19.29 | bjv | yeah, i just apt-got all the graphical spreadsheets i could find. |
07:19.53 | gravix | kspead is probably the best |
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07:21.04 | bjv | yeah, that 1.2 second launch time is pretty secksey, but oleo is ole-old and busted. |
07:21.05 | shad0w1e | anyone know where I can get a list of which packages are required to install KDE? (I need to do a manual install by downloading each of the packages sepparately) |
07:21.11 | bjv | kspread it is. |
07:21.29 | crispynix-v6 | shad0w1e: what dist? |
07:21.36 | shad0w1e | Debian Woody |
07:21.43 | shad0w1e | I want KDE 3.3 |
07:21.48 | shad0w1e | (not 2.2) |
07:21.49 | crispynix-v6 | shad0w1e: there's a 'kde' metapackage ... can't you use it? |
07:22.03 | shad0w1e | I don't know? can I? I need .debs |
07:22.25 | crispynix-v6 | erm, are you using a really old version of Debian? 3.4.2 is in unstable. |
07:22.50 | shad0w1e | I am |
07:22.53 | shad0w1e | well not that old |
07:23.01 | shad0w1e | what was considdered "stable" before June |
07:23.05 | crispynix-v6 | it's definitely old if you've got 2.2 |
07:23.05 | canllaith | hehehe |
07:23.06 | crispynix-v6 | ah |
07:23.08 | shad0w1e | which is Woody, 3.0 |
07:23.09 | shad0w1e | well yeah |
07:23.12 | shad0w1e | its from 2002 |
07:23.12 | shad0w1e | lol |
07:23.14 | canllaith | debian stable is what the dinosaurs used ;) |
07:23.20 | shad0w1e | hey! It's newer than Windows XP! |
07:23.25 | canllaith | No.. it's not |
07:23.30 | shad0w1e | YES it is! |
07:23.33 | shad0w1e | woody came out 2002 |
07:23.35 | canllaith | because the packages they consider 'stable' need to go through huge amounts of testing |
07:23.40 | canllaith | That doesn't mean that it has a KDE from 2002. |
07:23.46 | shad0w1e | oh it doesnt |
07:23.50 | shad0w1e | KDE 3.x was prolly out hten |
07:23.56 | canllaith | Yes, it was. |
07:23.58 | shad0w1e | and they went with 2.x |
07:24.11 | shad0w1e | truth is, the latest stable isn't so behind |
07:24.15 | shad0w1e | they use kde 3.3.2 i think |
07:24.20 | canllaith | If you want a more recent KDE I think you need to upgrade to testing or unstable or even the latest stable which has a 3.3.x |
07:24.31 | shad0w1e | NEGATIVE! |
07:24.33 | shad0w1e | cant do |
07:24.35 | canllaith | but I've never used debian in my life so do check with #debian. |
07:24.40 | shad0w1e | I need to stay on woody |
07:24.43 | canllaith | You can then compile sources of the latest KDE |
07:24.46 | canllaith | Or later KDE |
07:24.49 | shad0w1e | also negative |
07:24.57 | canllaith | Then your option is to use KDE 2.2 |
07:25.00 | shad0w1e | if I compile sources its making me upgrade all the compilers on my machine |
07:25.14 | shad0w1e | I found a bunch of .deb files |
07:25.16 | shad0w1e | which is fine |
07:25.26 | shad0w1e | I just need a list of which ones are needed and which are "bonus crap" |
07:25.32 | canllaith | arts kdelibs kdebase |
07:25.41 | canllaith | are the completely necessary KDE modules |
07:25.59 | canllaith | Anything else, depends what you want. Depending on what kde version it is, kmail is in kdepim or kdenetwork |
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07:26.26 | shad0w1e | well konqueror of course |
07:26.33 | canllaith | wb Lord-Phoenix. Your internet connection hates you tonight? :P |
07:26.37 | shad0w1e | control center |
07:26.38 | canllaith | shad0w1e: it's in kdebase. |
07:26.38 | shad0w1e | idk |
07:26.41 | shad0w1e | basic kde |
07:26.42 | shad0w1e | is it? |
07:26.42 | canllaith | also in kdebase |
07:26.55 | canllaith | There is a list on the faq that might help you. Let me find it. |
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07:27.43 | canllaith | http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/install.html#id2562309 |
07:27.55 | canllaith | That has a very short listing of vaguely what's in each package |
07:27.59 | shad0w1e | -rw------- 1 jay jay 954276 Sep 29 15:03 kdebase-bin_3.3.2-1sarge1_i386.de |
07:28.08 | shad0w1e | that file is 900k ! |
07:28.36 | gravix | doh... i just b0rk'd my kernel trying to get swsusp2 to work |
07:28.39 | canllaith | It's unlikely to be kdebase then. |
07:28.42 | canllaith | gravix: oh nooo! :( |
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07:29.19 | gravix | aha well that makes a good time to go to bed ;) |
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07:34.52 | marcusU | Hmmm. Suddenly HTML messages in KMail are showing up as icons instead of displaying the body. |
07:35.46 | gravix | HTML messages = pure evil |
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07:38.56 | marcusU | Yes, yes, but like right now, I have a msg with plain text and HTML both available, and instead of displaying either in the message window, I get an icon. If I click the icon, it asks what I want to open the file with. |
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07:40.13 | Agiofws | why does KDE not hold the sequence of my desktop icons and resets them every 2-3 reboots ? |
07:41.25 | canllaith | It's a bug. It will be fixed in KDE 3.5 |
07:42.02 | Agiofws | canllaith, sure i can't fix it? |
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07:43.05 | Agiofws | canllaith, ? |
07:44.38 | gravix | Agiofws, ! |
07:45.00 | Agiofws | gravix, ? |
07:45.11 | gravix | Agiofws, ...? |
07:45.21 | crispynix-v6 | @_@ |
07:45.38 | gravix | ((>_<)) |
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08:08.29 | marcusU | It looks like if the message is only HTML, it displays as HTML, but if has HTML and text both available, I get an icon instead of anything. |
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08:15.30 | pchan | hi. Is there any project management program? Ie, for time planning, gant charts and stuff? |
08:16.05 | HnZeKtO | taskjuggler |
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08:16.41 | pchan | Ok, I just installed it -- but nothing happens. If i start it from the console it mentions that I must start it with a file as argument.. |
08:17.04 | crispynix-v6 | mrproject off hand, but that's a gtk app. lemme dig for qt/kde one. |
08:17.22 | HnZeKtO | pchan: taskjuggler-kde |
08:17.31 | HnZeKtO | at least in mdk |
08:17.52 | crispynix-v6 | kfocus? |
08:18.16 | pchan | thanks, ill try those. |
08:19.06 | HnZeKtO | kfocus-1.0.2 October 13, 2001 |
08:19.09 | HnZeKtO | oh man |
08:19.53 | crispynix-v6 | 1.0.2-14 in debian ;o |
08:19.57 | doleyb | kfocus isn't like that, it's a progress logger, not a planner/predictor |
08:20.12 | crispynix-v6 | well, mrproject or taskjuggler might still be actively maintained |
08:20.25 | crispynix-v6 | heh, sorry :) just search quick through apt's cache |
08:20.31 | crispynix-v6 | *searched |
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08:25.55 | pinotree | hello =) |
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08:30.46 | dark_ | hey everyone |
08:31.10 | gravix | hey everytwo |
08:31.14 | dark_ | :P |
08:31.20 | pinotree | ... |
08:31.27 | gravix | ! |
08:31.36 | dark_ | if i wanted to transpose the manus from kde to say blackbox |
08:31.39 | dark_ | how would i do that |
08:31.40 | dark_ | ? |
08:31.54 | dark_ | is there a config file somewhere where the menu configs are kept? |
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08:37.30 | dark_ | well |
08:37.33 | dark_ | my main menu |
08:37.36 | dark_ | is well defined |
08:37.43 | dark_ | and id love to get iut into my blackbox menu |
08:37.50 | dark_ | without rewritting it all |
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08:38.50 | pinotree | good (i hope so) morning PhilRod :-) |
08:38.53 | dark_ | pipe entries eh |
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08:39.29 | pinotree | dark_: kde uses the freedesktop menu structure, don't know what blackbox does in that sense |
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08:40.58 | oneforall | hi there a way like mozilla when I do a middle click on a link it will open a new tab . Not a wibdow ? |
08:41.59 | PhilRod | yeah, it's in settings -> cofngiure konq -> web behaviour |
08:42.06 | PhilRod | might be hidden under an "advanced" tab |
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08:48.18 | oneforall | thanks will take a look |
08:49.02 | oneforall | tab browsing :) |
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08:49.46 | oneforall | mmmm mmmm good :D thanks |
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09:50.52 | shinji` | hi |
09:50.56 | dec0ding | hey. I got digikam plugins installed and they are not in Digikam when I start it. Like the exports menu is empty when I want to export an album as html |
09:51.00 | dec0ding | any ideas? |
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10:17.09 | occe | is there issues with kde 3.5beta1 and alsa? |
10:17.26 | occe | cant get my sound working in 3,5, but it works fine in 3.4 |
10:18.20 | PhilRod | ~artstr |
10:18.21 | apt | i guess artstr is http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/sound.html |
10:18.24 | PhilRod | take a look there |
10:19.15 | occe | even though i compiled w/o arts? |
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10:19.35 | Turgon | Hi |
10:19.51 | Turgon | Is there any way of telling ksirc to use these or those ports for DCC? |
10:19.57 | Turgon | (like with X-Chat, for example) |
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10:22.34 | occe | apt: even though i compiled w/o arts? |
10:23.20 | pinotree | occe: apt is a bot, won't reply you |
10:23.55 | occe | hehe... ok.... |
10:24.03 | occe | do u know? |
10:25.40 | pinotree | i use arts, so no |
10:25.58 | occe | ok... |
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10:36.47 | Ginja_Ninja | is there a xine plugin so konqueror can run web movie's ? |
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10:38.22 | lippel | Ginja_Ninja: yes, you can e.g. use kaffeine or kmplayer |
10:38.25 | hellz_hunter | im using gentoo and k3b, im trying to burn a dvd and its only burning at .80x, using slackware i didnt have this problem but i was curious if anyone else had this problem |
10:38.35 | hellz_hunter | i dont have prodvd installed, maybe that would help out ? |
10:39.03 | hellz_hunter | i found it strange that the fifo and device buffer are empty and not once try to fill up |
10:41.23 | Ginja_Ninja | lippel: Thanks, i thought kmplayer was just for Mplayer. right then, i have to choose between kaffeiene of kmplayer |
10:42.06 | Ginja_Ninja | lippel: do u use them ? |
10:42.15 | lippel | Ginja_Ninja: well, afaik kmplayer also has a xine plugin i think. but i don't know if it works or if it uses mplayer |
10:42.27 | lippel | Ginja_Ninja: i don't care much to be honest |
10:42.33 | Ginja_Ninja | lol |
10:42.36 | Ginja_Ninja | fair enough |
10:43.05 | lippel | Ginja_Ninja: i have all of them installed (for testing and finding the one and only), but i rarely use them embedded in konq |
10:43.25 | lippel | older kaffeine version were unstable and made konq crash |
10:43.36 | Ginja_Ninja | lippel: i see, just want to be able to view movie trailer for example |
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10:45.50 | ste | hi all. I have a usb key, and was playing with fstab. If I use labels (LABEL=abc) in fstab, konq will recognize the device, but won't mount/unmount it (kde 3.4.2) |
10:46.25 | ste | everything is fine if I use canonical fstab entry pointing it to /dev/sda |
10:46.30 | PhilRod | ste: reported as a bug, I think |
10:46.49 | ste | PhilRod: thanks. that's enough ;) |
10:48.15 | PhilRod | ste: you might want to look for the bug to see if there's been any discussion on it |
10:48.31 | PhilRod | AIUI, you need a kernel patch to have that label behaviour |
10:48.47 | ste | PhilRod: i use 2.6.14-rc |
10:48.57 | ste | PhilRod: I'll dig the bug db, then |
10:49.23 | PhilRod | ste: it was reported about a day or two ago. I think the reporter was using gentoo - that might help your search |
10:49.44 | ste | PhilRod: thank you so much |
10:49.55 | PhilRod | np |
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10:56.05 | jmg | hey guys i am having problems with artsd |
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11:00.01 | PhilRod | ~artstr |
11:00.02 | apt | artstr is probably http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/sound.html |
11:00.05 | PhilRod | jmg: read that page |
11:04.24 | jmg | PhilRod: thanks |
11:04.53 | jmg | PhilRod: my artsd doesnt start up |
11:05.42 | jmg | cannot open default capture invalid arbument or some such |
11:05.46 | jmg | argument* |
11:05.56 | jmg | im trying to use dsound |
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11:08.35 | Lord-Phoenix | someone say my name? |
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11:15.57 | jmg | Device: dsound could not be opened for recording - invalid argument |
11:16.09 | jmg | s/dsound/dmix |
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11:17.17 | PhilRod | jmg: can you start artsd in a konsole as suggested on that page? |
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11:27.00 | jmg | PhilRod: i have |
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11:27.49 | PhilRod | jmg: did it work? did it give you any interesting debug output? |
11:29.36 | jmg | PhilRod: seems to work.. at least not crash |
11:32.37 | jmg | amaroK: [Loader] amaroK is taking a long time to load! Perhaps something has gone wrong? |
11:32.42 | PhilRod | jmg: fiddle with the -a and -D options to see if you can get it to work with your preferred sound system |
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11:39.42 | doleyb | Hello, i would like in konqueror to move to a file by typing the first few letters of the filename. How to do. |
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11:41.50 | whirm | doleyb: type them |
11:42.23 | doleyb | yes, i type them and it goes to the file whose _type_ starts with the letters. |
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11:42.36 | doleyb | ie, I want to go to test.cc and it goes to hello.txt |
11:43.04 | doleyb | because it goes to which column you have set for sorting. |
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11:46.13 | xanax` | hi |
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11:47.25 | PhilRod | hi xanax` |
11:47.43 | xanax` | I just discovered the project "Kliker" and I must say that it's an excellent idea |
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11:48.28 | xanax` | it's simply awesome. |
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11:53.53 | adamt | xanax`: kliker? |
11:54.00 | adamt | do you mean "klik"? |
11:55.15 | xanax` | well, the project that allows to temporary install kde software |
11:55.32 | adamt | aha - "klik" =) |
11:55.37 | xanax` | oh ok sorry |
11:56.38 | adamt | damn, i made him mad.. maybe it's my deodorant? |
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12:23.24 | pinotree | lol |
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12:24.21 | DexterF | hi |
12:24.29 | DexterF | how do I delete comments from the bugtracker? |
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12:32.31 | pinotree | you can't iirc |
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12:38.53 | PhilRod | why would you want to do that? |
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12:53.29 | DexterF | did a double post accidentally. looks dorkish. |
12:53.35 | DexterF | meh, alright. |
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12:55.53 | DexterF | does debian have kde-3.4.2? |
12:56.01 | DexterF | unstable, that is |
12:57.03 | adamt | packages.debian.org |
12:57.08 | adamt | go look for yourself =) |
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13:07.06 | occe | im using kde 3.5 beta1 and have found a bug, could anyone please help me checking if that doesnt exist, and what to think about when adding it |
13:07.18 | DexterF | you forgot </typicaldebianuseranswer> ;) |
13:07.38 | adamt | DexterF: huh? |
13:08.12 | DexterF | j/k. ok, 3.4.2 there |
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13:09.24 | DexterF | someone using kde-3.4.2 and kopete/icq in deb? does the "authorization/serverside contact list bug" exist there, too? |
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13:21.25 | annma | DexterF: ask in #debian-kde |
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13:27.23 | peratu | Hi. |
13:27.42 | Hobbsee | hi |
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13:33.46 | questi | how can i hide navigation panel always ? |
13:34.17 | questi | on konqueror |
13:38.06 | cbr | F9 |
13:38.17 | cbr | oh |
13:38.18 | cbr | always |
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13:42.18 | chandoo | hi :) |
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13:52.04 | Alethes | anybody heard anything about qt-firefox? |
13:53.24 | Ash-Fox | Nope |
13:55.52 | apokryphos | Alethes: I don't think it's being worked on, too much (there's a url somewhere flying about with a build); I think more concentration is going to Konqueror and Gecko |
13:56.04 | Alethes | ok, good |
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13:56.20 | Alethes | I just want the ability to check my sites with gecko without having to have multiple browsers installed :) |
13:57.02 | apokryphos | aha, here's the link http://www.pryan.org/mozilla/firefox/hendikins/firefox-qt/ |
13:57.14 | apokryphos | easy to get running, but still pretty buggy |
13:57.31 | Alethes | is any real progress being made with gecko in konq? |
13:57.58 | apokryphos | There was some stuff about it on the dot not too long ago (aKademy etc); that's worth checking |
13:58.28 | Alethes | I remember the original "we ported gecko to qt!" stuff, but I've never seen anything substantial as a result |
13:58.44 | apokryphos | exactly, and all that was done in *last* year's akademy :/ |
13:59.02 | Alethes | yep |
14:01.03 | Alethes | heh, we need a gecko-part, huh? |
14:01.53 | apokryphos | and it is the superior rendering engine :D |
14:02.59 | Alethes | me too, but I still need to test in gecko |
14:03.16 | Alethes | it's too bad khtml isn't as easily extensible though |
14:03.27 | Alethes | the firefox extensions are a good idea |
14:03.47 | apokryphos | yup |
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14:16.24 | Alethes | somebody attempted XUL for konq, but it failed apparently |
14:16.32 | Alethes | don't know what the problem is |
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14:18.49 | peratu | re |
14:20.47 | Oliver_Beograd | what is the diferent's between KDE 3.3 and KDE 3.4.2...? |
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14:22.13 | HnZeKtO | Oliver_Beograd: two numbers :P |
14:23.00 | Oliver_Beograd | thanks a lot |
14:23.11 | Oliver_Beograd | AuReUs_ReCtoR how are you my friend ?! |
14:23.23 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | ;)))) |
14:24.18 | HnZeKtO | Oliver_Beograd: http://www.kde.org/info/3.4.php |
14:24.27 | HnZeKtO | and http://www.kde.org/info/3.4.2.php |
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14:35.36 | Oliver_Beograd | grok |
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14:43.00 | pinotree | hello |
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15:51.37 | Groovy | try this: Configure window behaviour - Border size - oversized |
15:51.50 | Groovy | wtf? :P |
15:52.35 | frb-away | I don't have that option |
15:53.07 | Groovy | i have it in kde3.4 |
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15:53.18 | Groovy | its just crazy |
15:53.28 | frb-away | sounds like an accessibility thing though |
15:53.33 | frb-away | 3.5b1 here |
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15:56.25 | frb | hmmm... I just told KDE to enable translucency and it didn't complain about no composite extension |
15:56.43 | chrisag | you have to restart for it to usually |
15:56.48 | chrisag | at least that's what i've found |
15:57.12 | frb | it didn't tell me that either |
15:57.25 | frb | it just said that it's unstable, and could crash applications or even X |
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15:58.15 | chrisag | yeah i get that warning... and when actually enable the xcomposite everythings gets all fubar |
15:58.23 | chrisag | probably because xcomposite sucks in 6.8.... |
15:58.31 | SpeS | hi, is there a way to add an entry to the klipper from a bash script? |
15:58.32 | chrisag | hopefully 6.9/7.0 fix this |
15:58.34 | frb | more likely your card |
15:58.49 | frb | SpeS: dcop maybe |
15:59.00 | Alethes | SpeS: klipper is accessible via dcop |
15:59.06 | chrisag | frb: probably I am using the ati proprietary drivers so I could have opengl |
15:59.49 | SpeS | frb Alethes ok, I'll look at it, thanks |
15:59.55 | chrisag | I should proably buy a nvidia card until ati gets their act together... but i'm not sure how much better nvidia is... |
16:00.05 | frb | $50 |
16:00.30 | chrisag | 50? |
16:00.32 | frb | as long as you avoid the MX cards, you'll be fine |
16:00.44 | chrisag | well i meant in general... and for linux |
16:00.50 | chrisag | and opengl directx etc |
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16:00.57 | frb | yeah, they all work in linux |
16:01.16 | chrisag | proprietary drivers or opensource? |
16:01.30 | frb | 2d works with opensource |
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16:01.42 | frb | 3d kicks a lot of buttox with closed drivers |
16:01.57 | chrisag | well so do the radeon cards... with proprietary drivers... |
16:01.58 | kaylee | hey, does anyone know an easy way to make different apps share the sound device? |
16:02.13 | chrisag | I haven't ever had a problem with 3d once the drivers were installed |
16:02.13 | kaylee | particularly mozilla and gaim? |
16:02.41 | chrisag | kaylee: if you're using alsa use alsa-jack and jack together |
16:02.44 | chrisag | is one way. |
16:03.11 | chandoo | hi :) |
16:03.15 | kaylee | hum...thanks chrisag |
16:03.24 | chandoo | any discussion on translucency |
16:03.34 | chandoo | i am having issues with tv window |
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16:07.23 | frb | chrisag: nvidia's drivers are more mature, and better supported |
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16:11.31 | chandoo | frb: i am using nvidia |
16:12.04 | chandoo | my translucency is not crashed at least once |
16:13.41 | chrisag | frb: I'd imagine but I don't want to drop $500 to replace my 9800 which blows any equivolant nvidia card in the same price range out of the water. |
16:14.03 | cbr | the drivers from nvidia.com rock |
16:16.40 | frb | chrisag: www.tigerdirect.com |
16:17.01 | frb | chrisag: you can get inexpensive NV cards there that can kick your ATI's ass on 3d performance |
16:17.19 | chrisag | even within windows? ;) Tomshardware begs to disagree a lot on that one :x |
16:17.21 | frb | then you also get renderaccell, and probably twinview which is better than XInerama |
16:17.21 | chrisag | oh |
16:17.26 | chrisag | and Non PCI express |
16:17.36 | frb | just skip the MX cards |
16:17.52 | frb | the MX is like the celeron of video cards |
16:18.21 | chrisag | figured as much |
16:18.34 | chrisag | I haven't used nvidia since geforce days ;p |
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16:20.27 | frb | the PC I'm trying to get this weekend has a 9600, which I think I'll try and replace as soon as possible |
16:20.30 | benJIman | they're still geforce branded |
16:21.24 | chrisag | still not the point... |
16:21.36 | chrisag | what's the equivolant of a 9800 ;) |
16:21.41 | chrisag | or something better for just as cheap |
16:21.49 | chrisag | since I bought this about only a year and a half ago |
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16:35.03 | kamaraju | I am running KDE 3.4 on Debian unstable. I want the following functionality. Whenever I open a new window, I want to determine where it is going to be placed. Can this be done in kde? I remember doing something like this in fvwm where the new window will be with mouse and I can move the mouse and place the window whereever I want. Can this be done in KDE? |
16:35.21 | chrisag | yes |
16:35.45 | chrisag | right click on the window bar go to advanced->advanced settings |
16:35.54 | chrisag | er special advanced you'll see it in there |
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16:38.44 | kamaraju | There are five tabs in that window, window extra, geometry, preferences, workarounds. I looked under all of them but could not find it anywhere. |
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17:10.05 | SAngeli | Anybody superkaramba user? |
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17:16.15 | HnZeKtO | window move 8 |
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17:17.21 | HnZeKtO | ouch |
17:17.29 | HnZeKtO | benJIman: :) |
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17:53.52 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | Oliver_Beograd, yuhuuuu :P |
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17:54.00 | Oliver_Beograd | de si |
17:54.02 | Oliver_Beograd | haha |
17:54.04 | Oliver_Beograd | rektume |
17:54.05 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | tamooo :P |
17:54.08 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | i ejbo te on |
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17:54.25 | Oliver_Beograd | jebo ga rektum |
17:54.36 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | pa ne moze |
17:54.38 | bushwakko | is kdm theme manager going to be in kde3.5 ? |
17:54.40 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | moze samo da ga jebu u rektum |
17:54.42 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | malo se bolje raspitaj |
17:54.43 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | sta je rektum |
17:54.45 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | :))) |
17:54.53 | pinotree | bushwakko: of course |
17:55.00 | bushwakko | ok |
17:55.11 | bushwakko | because it isn't in 3.4.2 right? and i can't emerge it either |
17:55.25 | pinotree | no, there's in |
17:55.32 | pinotree | ~split-ebuilds |
17:55.34 | apt | If you didn't build the whole of a KDE module, we can't offer support. See http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=110806759516927&w=2 for the reason. Try #gentoo if you don't want to install the full KDE module. |
17:55.37 | Oliver_Beograd | znam znam ja sta je rektum :) AuReUs_ReCtoR :)) |
17:55.38 | bushwakko | I have split ebuilds |
17:55.44 | pinotree | bushwakko: ^^^^ |
17:55.48 | bushwakko | pinotree: ? |
17:56.01 | pinotree | read that and try asking in #gentoo |
17:56.08 | bushwakko | read what? |
17:56.27 | bushwakko | ahh |
17:56.29 | pinotree | what apt said |
17:56.32 | bushwakko | got it |
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17:57.47 | bushwakko | "unmaintainable insanity" |
17:57.49 | bushwakko | nice, nice |
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18:00.38 | bushwakko | pinotree: but kdm-theme-manager is supposed to be in 3.4.2 ? |
18:00.46 | pinotree | don't know |
18:00.51 | bushwakko | doh |
18:01.03 | pinotree | i don't have gentoo, so i don't know what that package name corresponds to |
18:01.38 | bushwakko | but I mean, officially |
18:02.03 | Tm_T | kdm theme managing is in kcontrol |
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18:04.00 | bushwakko | Tm_T: where? it's not here in my gentoo 3.4.2, is that a gentoo problem then? |
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18:07.47 | Oleg_ | this thing "add applet to panel" seems too gnome-like |
18:07.58 | Oleg_ | I am not sure I like it or not |
18:08.29 | Oleg_ | I mean I like it by itself, it's beautiful and etc. |
18:08.31 | _chavo | Oleg_, you'll get used to it |
18:08.42 | _chavo | plus it has the search bar |
18:08.49 | crispynix-v6 | gnome and windows copied stuff from kde, so why not the other way around? ;^) |
18:08.50 | Oleg_ | the only thing that bothers is that it's too gnome-like |
18:09.13 | Oleg_ | gnome copied something from kde? |
18:09.22 | crispynix-v6 | a few things, I think. |
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18:09.59 | Oleg_ | when was it added? in kde 3.5? |
18:10.00 | AciD | hi |
18:10.06 | crispynix-v6 | Oleg_: yep |
18:10.43 | Oleg_ | ok |
18:12.33 | AciD | how can you configure the kde sound system to use the alsa dmix plugin ? I try to modify the "choose a personalized device" to "plug:dmix", but kcontrol keeps telling me it can't open it. I copied the exact name that I used in xmms for info.. |
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18:17.46 | chrisag | if alsa is running it should use dmix automatically if it's configured no? |
18:17.53 | chrisag | so therefore all you'd have to do is point kde to alsa |
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18:24.08 | spiral | hi |
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18:28.28 | pluffsy | b |
18:28.32 | pluffsy | oops |
18:28.33 | pluffsy | hello |
18:28.39 | yola | hi |
18:29.15 | pluffsy | I'm new to kde I'm trying to install a theme but the instructions at kde-looks.org doesn't work. I guess they where written for an older version. And maybe I need to install something for IceVM to work? |
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18:29.43 | Flendor | Good evening. |
18:29.44 | pluffsy | I just have a standard kubuntu installation. Maybe there is something missing there. |
18:30.18 | pluffsy | good evening flendor. |
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18:33.59 | pluffsy | The instruction say there is something called IceWM under Looks and feel->Window Decrations (which I guess is what's called Apperance and themes) but there is nothing called icewm there |
18:34.23 | Flendor | Isn't IceWM another Window Maker? |
18:34.36 | AciD | chrisag > I have "/usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a alsa -d -D plug:dmix -s 10 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f" running, but when I listen to xmms (with the dmix plug) I can't hear kde sounds when alsa is selected |
18:35.02 | AciD | therefore I tried to add the "plug:dmix" string, but it doesn't accept it |
18:36.09 | chrisag | hmmm |
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18:36.11 | chrisag | dunno never really bothered with the sound to be honest.. sorry ( |
18:36.11 | AciD | you are lucky then :) |
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18:36.13 | pluffsy | flendor: I don't really have a clue. I remember there being a icewm option in kde without me installing anything when I ran KDE under redhat a long time ago. No it's a standard ubuntu install... |
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18:36.57 | Flendor | Hmmm. Can you give me a link to the instructions? |
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18:37.19 | pluffsy | flendor: http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=18 |
18:37.39 | Flendor | OK, looking.. |
18:39.52 | Flendor | Hmm.. There is no IceWM in appearance and Themes, right? Then I have no clue.. |
18:40.33 | pluffsy | no there ain't :( |
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18:47.03 | zePh7r | hi |
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18:48.02 | zePh7r | I've got a problem with accentuated caracters; they show in an incorrect manner. What can I do about it? |
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18:49.25 | Mr_700 | zePh7r: where are they wrong? Konqueror or ewerywhere? |
18:51.11 | zePh7r | Mr_700: thanks for replying. Yeah, they are kind of everywhere, at least as far as I can see in konqueror and kontact |
18:53.31 | Mr_700 | zePh7r: what locale do you use (echo $LANG says what), what KDE version? |
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18:56.50 | zePh7r | locale: pt_PT.UTF-8 ; kde version: 3.3.2 ; Linux distro: Mandriva 2005 |
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18:59.37 | zePh7r | on the other and, I'm able to write accentuatedly; and sometimes I even can see accentuated characters. It seems like some font incompatibility |
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19:00.13 | zePh7r | not sometimes; most times. It only occurs rarely |
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19:01.33 | Mr_700 | hm... utf-8, so you should not have problems, the font maybe... |
19:01.35 | zePh7r | like in here: "Bernardo Sassetti est?? de regresso com um novo ??lbum." |
19:02.57 | zePh7r | and in the place where I took this from, it shows little squares where the ?? are |
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19:08.46 | SuperNinjaKitty | i am running kde3.3.2, in kmail i have alternating bachground/highlight which is white and black is there a way to remove the alternating and make it just white? |
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19:12.07 | Mr_700 | zePh7r: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/UTF-8-demo.txt - how bad does it look? or it renders fine enough? |
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19:15.02 | zePh7r | well, even the author name shows little squares |
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19:16.20 | Mr_700 | zePh7r: mozilla / firefox? |
19:16.46 | Tallia1[UbuntU] | hi |
19:17.09 | Tallia1[UbuntU] | it exist a combinations of key to show the desktop? like WIN+D in winzoz? |
19:17.14 | zePh7r | no, konqueror. Firefox shows de page fine to me. |
19:17.49 | HnZeKtO | Tallia1[UbuntU]: i use applekey + d ;) |
19:18.45 | Tallia1[UbuntU] | :P |
19:18.54 | Tallia1[UbuntU] | have you got linux on mac!!! |
19:18.55 | Tallia1[UbuntU] | ahaha |
19:19.01 | HnZeKtO | yeap |
19:19.02 | Mr_700 | zePh7r: try playing with the fonts... have no idea... :( |
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19:19.25 | Tallia1[UbuntU] | anyway is there a terminal command to send kde the order to show the desktop |
19:19.26 | Tallia1[UbuntU] | ? |
19:19.47 | HnZeKtO | Tallia1[UbuntU]: you can creat a keyboard shortcut |
19:19.52 | HnZeKtO | *create |
19:20.15 | Tallia1[UbuntU] | yeah |
19:20.19 | HnZeKtO | try kcontrol -> accesibility -> and something about shortcuts |
19:20.29 | HnZeKtO | don't know the exactly english words |
19:21.11 | Mr_700 | zePh7r: with 'MiscFixed' for me it looks fine... almost :) |
19:21.34 | zePh7r | Mr_700: playing with the font works only undr kde? no firefox, for example, right? |
19:22.30 | Mr_700 | zePh7r: no, firefox uses some default fonts (unless a page specifies other) and this is text file, so... |
19:22.59 | Mr_700 | infact, every browser has default fonts... |
19:23.05 | zePh7r | so... where can I change the fonts? |
19:23.17 | Mr_700 | in what, konqueror? |
19:23.23 | zePh7r | yeah |
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19:24.16 | Mr_700 | zePh7r: settings -> configure konqueror -> fonts ;) |
19:24.47 | cbr | i dont see it in firefox |
19:25.07 | Mr_700 | for text files it is 'Fixed font' |
19:26.21 | Mr_700 | cbr: you don't see what in FF (or I missed smth?) |
19:26.33 | cbr | the text file |
19:26.39 | cbr | well certain characters |
19:26.55 | cbr | probably the font though |
19:27.13 | Mr_700 | yes, not all fonts have all characters :( |
19:27.23 | Mr_700 | alphabets... |
19:27.39 | SuperNinjaKitty | i am having trouble with KDE. i am running 3.3.2 i have alternating dark bars in kmail i have tried adjusting the list view in control center to no avail. Does anyone have an idea of how to fix this ? |
19:27.44 | zePh7r | well, going to log out to see if it works... |
19:27.53 | Mr_700 | zePh7r: no, don't |
19:28.03 | Mr_700 | it should change fonts instan..... |
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19:31.17 | pluffsy | on gnome I use gFTP for ftp. what shall I use under kde? |
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19:31.28 | Mahound | hi |
19:31.29 | hydrogen | konqueror can handle |
19:32.17 | pluffsy | okey. and that works well? |
19:32.20 | Mahound | does anybody know a way of recording a kde window as video |
19:32.22 | Mahound | for demos? |
19:33.27 | hydrogen | pluffsy: I assume so.. not really sure |
19:35.40 | Mr_700 | Mahound: 'import -window Konversation test.png' (from image magic) is not good enough... but... |
19:36.02 | Mahound | i wanted videos :/ |
19:36.02 | hydrogen | pluffsy: kbear also maybe |
19:36.06 | Mahound | thanks, anyway |
19:36.33 | Mr_700 | Mahound: KSnapshot ? |
19:36.47 | Mahound | ksnapshot takes only pics :| |
19:36.51 | Mahound | brb, dinner |
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19:39.17 | Alethes | put import -window Konversation test.png into a loop in a script :D |
19:39.31 | Mr_700 | Mahound: http://linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/03/04/screen_capture_movies.html?page=last&x-maxdepth=0 |
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19:41.45 | _micro | Hi |
19:43.45 | SuperNinjaKitty | i am having trouble with KDE. i am running 3.3.2 i have alternating dark bars in kmail i have tried adjusting the list view in control center to no avail. Does anyone have an idea of how to fix this ? |
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19:44.32 | _micro | No |
19:44.59 | real | if there is no option to do it, could play around in the source, or run it with a different theme |
19:45.05 | StevenR | SuperNinjaKitty: screenshot? |
19:45.29 | SuperNinjaKitty | Steven i have no where to post it |
19:45.57 | real | theres free image hosting places, could put it on echo.cx or here too: http://yourfile.org/ |
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19:46.20 | _stalker | hi |
19:47.11 | _micro | Hi |
19:47.24 | _stalker | I'm from Poland. And you ? |
19:47.32 | _micro | germania |
19:47.39 | annma | I live in Canada |
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19:47.56 | SuperNinjaKitty | http://dwl7.yourfile.org/72277677317913/ |
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19:48.01 | Tm_T | Finland o/ |
19:48.18 | _micro | fast gone |
19:48.25 | real | ew looks ugly |
19:48.25 | Tm_T | stalker couldn't stand me :/ |
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19:48.51 | SuperNinjaKitty | real my screenshot/ |
19:48.54 | _micro | maybe |
19:48.57 | real | yea |
19:49.06 | _micro | whats ew? |
19:49.31 | SuperNinjaKitty | any way i can make it look better would be great |
19:49.40 | real | i just meant the kmail not your whole setup |
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19:50.05 | SuperNinjaKitty | real understood, how do i fix the kmail ? |
19:50.50 | real | i would just adjust the colors of the theme |
19:50.54 | _micro | im new to linux |
19:50.58 | real | in kcontrol |
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19:51.19 | _micro | have suse 9.3 since some days |
19:51.36 | SuperNinjaKitty | real kcontrol is where? |
19:51.52 | SuperNinjaKitty | ok |
19:51.55 | real | clickt he kde icon and go to control center |
19:52.11 | SuperNinjaKitty | i have tried to change it that way, no luck |
19:52.16 | _micro | make yast online update now |
19:52.22 | real | did you change the Colors? |
19:52.29 | real | appearance and theme - > colors |
19:52.38 | SuperNinjaKitty | the background in list |
19:53.20 | SuperNinjaKitty | Alternate Background in Lists |
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19:57.32 | SuperNinjaKitty | real yes i changed that, another question i have is where the three buttons in the upper right corner are? |
19:57.39 | zone17 | Hi, I have installed the KDE app aKregator but it's complaining about akregator-part, which it can't find .Where could I possible explain it to look for those files? |
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19:58.17 | real | hm thats true, crazy |
19:58.32 | SuperNinjaKitty | is there a config file somewhere? |
19:59.23 | SuperNinjaKitty | i even tried a reinstall only saving my /home whatever is messed up is in my home dir |
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20:00.00 | SuperNinjaKitty | ready to create another user and see if it is system wide |
20:00.44 | real | could always update to 3.4 |
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20:01.11 | SuperNinjaKitty | debian has issues with 3.4 |
20:01.31 | SuperNinjaKitty | gonna try a different user |
20:01.44 | SuperNinjaKitty | real thanks for the help |
20:01.45 | real | in appearance and themes, under window decorations yo can add the buttons to minimize etc |
20:03.45 | SuperNinjaKitty | they are already selected. how do i transfer my address book to a pen drive? |
20:04.20 | real | just find out where its located it and copy it over id think |
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20:05.09 | SuperNinjaKitty | thanks real |
20:05.15 | SuperNinjaKitty | ciao |
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20:05.44 | _micro | are there much differences between distribtions? |
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20:08.42 | Lars_G | Help please HELP. |
20:09.01 | Lars_G | Konsole died while playing a sound, now, I have a play type even stuck on arts, and it plkays and plays and plays |
20:09.07 | Lars_G | I've found to way to stop it. |
20:09.11 | Lars_G | even restarting arts |
20:09.40 | _micro | ctrl alt esc |
20:09.49 | Lars_G | ANy way to stop the sound (event) without restarting the system? to find out which pid is sending the message to kill it? should I create an unterminated out dev and redir the message there? |
20:10.12 | Lars_G | _micro: Nice, but what app do I kill? since the one that produced this is dead, not visible anymore |
20:10.41 | _micro | i dont know, im new |
20:10.43 | real | is it using like /dev/dsp |
20:10.50 | real | lsof /dev/dsp will tell you whats using that |
20:11.29 | Lars_G | Nope it's not using dsp |
20:11.34 | Lars_G | not directly. |
20:11.38 | Lars_G | it's using arts |
20:12.00 | Lars_G | Phew at least I made it quiet, I added an arts mixer and it shut off (while it still exists) |
20:12.39 | real | have you tried ps auxf |
20:12.55 | real | that will give you a tree of apps |
20:13.54 | Lars_G | real: I know, but I don't find the suspected process there, so it is dead |
20:14.05 | real | it would still show up |
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20:14.17 | real | cant have something running and not show up in ps |
20:14.25 | Lars_G | Then I don't have something running. |
20:14.33 | Lars_G | the sound message is just stuck in arts. for some reason. |
20:14.52 | real | yea but after you restart it, its still stuck? that doesnt make sense |
20:14.54 | Lars_G | unless I'm killing the wrong suspect. sigh |
20:15.01 | real | something must be saying to it, play this, play this |
20:15.04 | Lars_G | who handles "Kde System Notifications" ?? |
20:16.26 | Lars_G | dcop? kdesktop? kwin? |
20:16.56 | Lars_G | found it. |
20:17.03 | Lars_G | knotify (duh) |
20:17.11 | Lars_G | phew there, the event is dead. |
20:17.14 | Lars_G | ahhh my poor ears |
20:17.36 | real | :]] |
20:18.41 | real | must suck to have speakers without volume control |
20:19.37 | _micro | ;-) |
20:19.53 | _micro | he might have no arms... |
20:20.11 | real | true |
20:20.32 | _micro | dont know |
20:20.46 | _micro | bt how he type? |
20:20.59 | real | voice recognition |
20:22.13 | _micro | u there larsg? |
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20:24.56 | real | maybe fell down and cant get up since hes got no arms :[ |
20:25.01 | kaasje | can kde set a default rule for all windows ? |
20:25.08 | _micro | yes;-) |
20:25.24 | kaasje | but i not only mean system windows also app windows |
20:25.32 | kaasje | like firefox |
20:25.59 | _micro | he dont answer anymore |
20:26.22 | kaasje | o.o |
20:26.33 | _micro | Lars! |
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20:26.49 | kaasje | anyones? :/ |
20:27.10 | _micro | cant answer youur qestion |
20:27.26 | kaasje | you can't or you won't ? :D |
20:28.17 | real | click on the toolbar wtith right button and go to configure window behavior |
20:28.19 | real | is that what you want? |
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20:28.48 | _micro | Lars? |
20:29.16 | kaasje | hmm lemme check |
20:29.32 | _micro | evrything running and Quiet? |
20:29.57 | Lars_G | yes mirco? |
20:30.20 | Lars_G | I smash my head on the keyboard to type |
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20:30.43 | _micro | uu hit good |
20:30.52 | Lars_G | yup. |
20:30.58 | Lars_G | I've trained to aim with my nose |
20:31.22 | _micro | very fast |
20:31.29 | kaasje | real: would a new firefox window be treated as a 'active' window?? |
20:31.51 | real | active window is window that is at the top |
20:31.58 | real | like where you are typing |
20:33.15 | kaasje | ok, i se tit at 50%, however it doesn't turn transparent, should i restart the window or something? |
20:33.46 | real | does your transparancy stuff even work? |
20:34.00 | real | you got to put option composite enabled into your x config |
20:34.01 | kaasje | k menu in transparant |
20:34.16 | kaasje | also rightclick windows are |
20:34.26 | kaasje | normal windows like these and firefox just ranet T_T |
20:34.40 | real | dont know then :[ |
20:34.47 | kaasje | okay :) |
20:34.50 | kaasje | thanks anyway /no1 |
20:34.50 | real | for me things get transparent |
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20:36.37 | falso | hello |
20:36.51 | falso | can anyone tell me which package contains the google extension for konqueror |
20:38.06 | _micro | During the last package installation, some changed configuration |
20:38.06 | _micro | files were detected. Find the log files for the install process in |
20:38.07 | _micro | /var/log/YaST2/. Check whether your configuration files are still |
20:38.07 | _micro | up to date. |
20:39.19 | _micro | what the message means? |
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20:40.32 | _micro | restart after update? |
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20:52.10 | rogerio | alguem de Curitiba-PR ?? |
20:53.05 | caio1982_ | yes, but you better to speak in english here; try #kde-brasil instead |
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21:01.03 | falso | can anyone tell me which package contains the google extension for konqueror |
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21:15.03 | _micro | Hi |
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21:17.08 | _micro | how i install a graphics driver? |
21:17.19 | _micro | for ati card |
21:18.45 | db3 | _micro: what's your distro? |
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21:20.41 | JessicaX^ | Hey, sorry for this - but i got the KDEbase source, couldn't find any dialogs -> It linked to themes .. So, is there any pages which anyone could point me to which refer to how you can style / change the login box to how you desire? |
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21:22.26 | _micro | what login box? |
21:22.47 | HuntsMan | JessicaX^: you mean KDM? |
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21:25.47 | JessicaX^ | Yes |
21:26.00 | JessicaX^ | Here' i'll show you a screenshot of what i mean |
21:27.20 | JessicaX^ | http://www.cutterproject.co.uk/Casestudies/orwell_high_school_cutter_case_study.php?singleimage=&f=OrwellImages%2Floginscreen.jpg |
21:27.29 | JessicaX^ | It's kinda hard to see |
21:27.36 | JessicaX^ | But you can make it out |
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21:32.40 | Oliver_Beograd | could somebody go to #flood to see something ? |
21:36.03 | frb | use a pastebin |
21:36.10 | frb | `paste |
21:36.25 | frb | http://rafb.net/paste acording to the topic |
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21:47.25 | Oliver_Beograd | JessicaX^ :) |
21:47.29 | Oliver_Beograd | tell me |
21:47.42 | JessicaX^ | Ugh |
21:47.53 | JessicaX^ | Oliver_Beograd: Just please, leave me alone |
21:48.01 | Oliver_Beograd | ok |
21:48.13 | Oliver_Beograd | but I dont understand you anything |
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22:06.14 | frb | is there a kde calendaring program? |
22:06.35 | alexissoft | frb: kontact |
22:06.39 | alexissoft | sorry |
22:06.41 | alexissoft | korganiser |
22:06.42 | crispynix-v6 | KOrganizer (part of the kontact suite) |
22:07.02 | crispynix-v6 | you can also click the clock applet and you get a nice calendar -.- |
22:07.43 | frb | korganizer is what I needed |
22:07.49 | alexissoft | :) |
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22:08.05 | josip | When I try to startx I get Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify bus IDs for all framebuffer devices. Any ideas ? |
22:08.09 | frb | does it integrate well with kmail |
22:08.33 | alexissoft | frb: yes |
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22:10.51 | frb | my coworker is tired of outlook, and is willing to try linux |
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22:11.59 | frb | does kde support chorded keyboards, or is that a hardware issue? |
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22:32.05 | Johann | is there anybody here? |
22:32.59 | crispynix-v6 | no |
22:32.59 | Johann | :) |
22:33.14 | chandoo | :) |
22:33.21 | Johann | i'm tying to install kde 3.5b1, but i have a dependency pb |
22:33.34 | Johann | kdelibs3-arts is needed by kdelibs3-devel-3.4.91-5 |
22:33.35 | chandoo | Johann: what is that |
22:34.13 | chandoo | un install arts |
22:34.33 | chandoo | after installing kde 3.5, install it again |
22:34.54 | Johann | ok |
22:36.18 | Johann | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
22:36.18 | Johann | <PROTECTED> |
22:36.18 | Johann | <PROTECTED> |
22:36.18 | Johann | <PROTECTED> |
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22:40.23 | _micro | hello |
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22:43.46 | chandoo | hi _micro |
22:45.12 | frb | you don't need all that gnome crap anyway |
22:45.14 | frb | :) |
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22:49.35 | apokryphos | anyone remember the name of http://kdelook.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=25065&file1=25065-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Black+Beauty ? Can't find it |
22:49.43 | apokryphos | (the superkaramba theme there, I mean) |
22:50.13 | SuperNinjaKitty | can anyone offer tips to setting up kpilot? |
22:50.30 | jmg | hey all |
22:50.35 | jmg | im having problems iwth artsd |
22:50.41 | jmg | device cannot be opened for capture |
22:50.54 | jmg | invalid argument |
22:51.03 | jmg | artsd starts with null device any ideas |
22:51.14 | jmg | alsaplayer and aredcord work |
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23:00.10 | jmg | nevermind fixed and bug reported |
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23:06.23 | grobnica_mladost | justlink |
23:06.29 | JustLink | :) |
23:06.32 | grobnica_mladost | where did you get that nick ? |
23:06.35 | JustLink | Hi, you should probably read the network policy page and maybe some information about the network and maybe find a better network ;) . Thanks! |
23:06.58 | frb | who are you and why do you care? |
23:07.09 | grobnica_mladost | he is my friend |
23:08.27 | JustLink | JustLink |
23:08.28 | JustLink | :) |
23:08.48 | JustLink | i have find the inspiration on my cd-rw |
23:09.07 | grobnica_mladost | what is that cd-rw ? |
23:09.58 | grobnica_mladost | damn kde |
23:10.14 | JustLink | my cd recorder |
23:10.16 | grobnica_mladost | I will make and make install SUICIDE for myself |
23:10.21 | grobnica_mladost | ow |
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23:27.13 | JustLink | Îëèâåðå |
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23:27.46 | pinotree | à èéìòùæ |
23:28.06 | annma | JustLink: set your IRC client to utf8 |
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23:28.23 | pinotree | annma: i got thoose letters correctly |
23:28.35 | Sho_ | ditto |
23:29.12 | frb | or stop spilling meaningless garbage? |
23:29.37 | annma | I am utf8 and I did not get them |
23:29.49 | annma | éèà ù |
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23:30.12 | annma | pinotree: you're utf8? |
23:30.17 | pinotree | annma: yep |
23:30.19 | Sho_ | I'm utf8 |
23:30.29 | annma | I got yours but not JustLink's |
23:30.38 | frb | I dunno what I am, but I got everything |
23:30.46 | JustLink | ne razumem vas |
23:30.49 | Alethes | I can see both |
23:30.51 | frb | a large pile of accented vowels |
23:31.03 | JustLink | ãäå ¼å ïðîáëåì |
23:31.09 | JustLink | Îëèâåðå ¼àâè ñå |
23:31.10 | leonard | oh? |
23:31.15 | frb | accented vowels, and a 1/4 symbol now |
23:31.26 | pinotree | yep |
23:31.38 | Sho_ | yup |
23:31.48 | Sho_ | exciting discussions tonight. |
23:31.57 | frb | JustLink: why are you here? You first tell #kde to get a new network, then you spew gibberish, and never ask a question |
23:35.05 | grobnica_mladost | hehe |
23:35.33 | gravix | crazy |
23:35.38 | grobnica_mladost | maybe |
23:35.48 | grobnica_mladost | but how to set to see some other lettersa |
23:35.50 | grobnica_mladost | but how to set to see some other letters |
23:36.00 | gravix | what letters |
23:36.02 | annma | <JustLink> Îëèâåðå ¼àâè ñå |
23:36.15 | annma | nice, I have a way to avoid spam |
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23:36.24 | gravix | you can take your letters and shove them up... !! |
23:36.41 | grobnica_mladost | how to shoe ? |
23:36.56 | grobnica_mladost | For example, how to see JustLink letters ? |
23:36.57 | gravix | very carefully. |
23:37.12 | JustLink | :) |
23:37.20 | JustLink | u must use....... |
23:37.28 | grobnica_mladost | nothing is must |
23:37.33 | JustLink | now u can see |
23:37.52 | JustLink | it,s a magic |
23:38.06 | grobnica_mladost | I am juist buried deep |
23:38.18 | grobnica_mladost | deep in my soul |
23:39.52 | apokryphos | anyone remember the name of the karamba theme at http://kdelook.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=25065&file1=25065-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Black+Beauty ? Can't find it |
23:41.51 | crispynix-v6 | apokryphos: http://kdelook.org/content/show.php?content=25065 |
23:43.25 | apokryphos | crispynix-v6: so what's the name of the theme? :) |
23:43.51 | crispynix-v6 | apokryphos: no idea, but you could email the author or check out the URLs ;) |
23:44.24 | apokryphos | I checked the URL, but see no mention of the karamba theme 8) |
23:44.43 | crispynix-v6 | it could be something he made but hasn't submitted. who knows. |
23:44.45 | apokryphos | (you produced the link to the screenshot) |
23:44.54 | apokryphos | I know it's been submitted; I used it in the past =) |
23:45.04 | crispynix-v6 | ah, dunno then |
23:45.19 | crispynix-v6 | the link was to the content page not the ss btw |
23:45.31 | apokryphos | content page... of the screenshot, yes |
23:45.44 | crispynix-v6 | well, it just tells you more than the screenshot ;) |
23:47.04 | apokryphos | I had the link to the content page obviously :), I just linked to the actual screeny in here because it saves people clicking on two things |
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23:49.53 | crispynix-v6 | http://kdelook.org/content/show.php?content=27738 <--- that might answer your question |
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23:51.54 | apokryphos | gah, aero-g -- that is indeed it. Thanks. :) |
23:52.49 | Chrisid | is their any program i can open up image files with knoqueror |
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23:52.57 | Chrisid | instead of konqueror opening up the image file |
23:54.17 | annma | you can choose an embedded app like gwenview |
23:54.27 | apokryphos | Chrisid: many apps can embed in konq |
23:54.44 | annma | any kde graphic app can |
23:55.56 | Chrisid | ok |
23:56.12 | apokryphos | just alter the file associations in kcontrol |
23:56.25 | Chrisid | will do thanks |
23:56.32 | Chrisid | anybody here using 3.5 beta? |
23:56.38 | crispynix-v6 | yep |
23:56.44 | Chrisid | just installed it |
23:56.55 | Chrisid | what differences are there |
23:57.03 | Chrisid | it looks nice and runs fatsr |
23:57.06 | Chrisid | faster it seems |
23:57.10 | Chrisid | but other than that |
23:57.15 | crispynix-v6 | beware the new konq search box, it has annoying autocomplete -_- |
23:57.27 | crispynix-v6 | can't seem to turn it off either |
23:57.32 | gravix | my 3.4 search box doesn't work |
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23:57.53 | grobnica_mladost | :) |
23:58.04 | gravix | and it won't build the search index. any idea how to fix? |