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00:00.03annmahighlight toolbar in the list
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00:00.13annmaToolbar
00:00.28IceD^yeah
00:00.29annmaand look at the disabled icon
00:00.33annmahow is it?
00:01.01IceD^hey!
00:01.08IceD^if you look at the screenshot
00:01.16IceD^you will see that `back` button IS NOT disabled
00:01.21IceD^it's simply gray
00:01.45IceD^they think that gray buttons looks professional
00:02.04IceD^<kwwii> those were made in an attempt to make the crystal theme more proffesional
00:02.09annmaIceD^: just chane this setting and see what happens, oK?
00:02.45annmahmm yes
00:02.51annmayou know how artists are
00:03.00annmaIceD^: I won't comment...
00:03.01IceD^annma: changed
00:03.20IceD^nothing except disabled buttons chnaged
00:03.22IceD^as expected
00:03.25annmaIceD^: so what doe sit do in your toolbar?
00:03.42annmaI am not sure what you want exactly
00:04.17IceD^annma: I'd like to get back the buttons as they was in 3.4.2
00:05.05annmawhat version are you in?
00:05.16benJImanIceD^: use the icon theme from 3.4.2 then
00:05.35IceD^annma: 3.4.90 (aka 3.5a1)
00:05.36ysmdah, I'm not able to create a kdevelop project because the dialog don't have a default OK button and it's not shown on my 640px height screen...
00:05.41annmaah, IceD^
00:05.54annmabut what iconset do you use?
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00:06.01annmaseems not the default
00:06.02IceD^the default one - crystal
00:06.06IceD^DEFAULT
00:06.06annmayeah? weird
00:06.12IceD^that will be default in 3.5
00:06.12annmamine is not like yours
00:06.13mmodemgood night
00:06.18annmammodem: hey
00:06.21IceD^that's why I'm complaining
00:06.24annmaagain some patch???
00:06.29mmodemAnalogTek:
00:06.29IceD^no patches
00:06.37mmodemannma: did u saw the mail i sent u?
00:06.42annmaIceD^: that was for mmodem
00:06.49IceD^annma: ?
00:06.55IceD^ahh
00:06.59annmammodem: you patch your files then you complain
00:07.04annmammodem: you're a pain
00:07.16annmathe error you have never matcch the file
00:07.24mmodemyes but when was cuased by any patch i see it
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00:07.35annmaso when you have an error next time paste the line in the file
00:07.38mmodemfor example the previous was a patch malforned, already fix it
00:07.45annmammodem: you NEVER see it
00:07.48mmodemi pasted everything u asked
00:07.55runnerahmm my kmail 1.8.2 doesn't seem to have the BOUNCE feature anymore!
00:07.55annmatwice you posted and it was your damn patches
00:08.08annmammodem: paste the line where the compilation fails
00:08.16mmodemyes twice and the rest was due to kde sources
00:08.19annmalol
00:08.23annmano way
00:08.34annmafor the last error, paste the line here
00:08.38mmodemyes i paste it and ull see its not patched
00:08.46mmodem1 m
00:09.01annmathe file that errors was not changed in weeks
00:09.19mmodemthe file isnt patched
00:09.28annmapaste the damned line
00:09.47annmaand as I told you beore, look at websvn
00:09.59annmaand see when the file was modified
00:10.07mmodemline 1892: CONF_GEN_EXAMPLE
00:10.30annmaso how can that generate the error you have?
00:10.37annmamake clean and retry
00:10.50annmadid you recently build kdebase with success?
00:10.55IceD^annma: where can I complain about this icons?
00:10.55annmain the last 2 weeks?
00:11.06annmaIceD^: issue a bug report
00:11.20annmaIceD^: but explain clearly as I am not sure I get it totally
00:11.23pinotreeIceD^: #kde-artists or to the artists
00:11.26annmano
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00:11.32annmapinotree: he already went here
00:11.39runnerahmm my kmail 1.8.2 doesn't seem to have the BOUNCE feature anymore!
00:11.39annmabesides reports stay
00:11.48pinotreeannma: yes, but it's night here ;-)
00:11.50runnerais there a way to get the BOUNCE feature back?
00:11.51annmaIceD^: a bug report is the way to do
00:11.55mmodemannma: yes
00:11.55IceD^pinotree: I was there
00:11.57annmapinotree: exactly
00:12.12annmammodem: so see if that file was modified in the past 2 weeks
00:12.16mmodemtheres no need to do any make clean cause it stars build from scratch
00:12.25annmammodem: answer is NO so the problem is YOUR side as always
00:12.44annmabuild from scratch? you're joking, with all your patches
00:12.55annmascratch and you had >>> in a file
00:13.01mmodemtheres no need for any make clean
00:13.06Alethesit sure makes it easy to go back and forth between a couple of functions on opposite ends of a long file
00:13.10annmano, of course not
00:13.11mmodemi use specs
00:13.14ysmcan someone explains to me how to create a simple c++ new project with kdevelop?
00:13.15annmammodem: LOL
00:13.16IceD^is it possible to attach sreenshots to the bug in kde bugzilla?
00:13.22annmammodem: use your brain instead
00:13.30annmaIceD^: yes, of course
00:13.34pinotreeIceD^: sure, create a new attachment
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00:14.09mmodemannma: if u have any problem go to a shrink, dont come here insulting
00:14.22IceD^okkk
00:14.27IceD^will do thus
00:14.29IceD^this
00:15.07annmammodem: LOL, sorry but you posted too many false bad reports
00:15.32mmodemwhen i see the error is mine i always confirm it like u saw
00:15.44frb-workcan't we all just get along?
00:16.25annmammodem: no, you should do in the dir a svn status
00:16.49annmafastly: hmm, you should see how we all try to help him in the mailing list
00:16.59annmafrb-work: I mean
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00:17.07IceD^another toolbars question
00:17.29IceD^are there any plans to make toolbars editing usable
00:17.58annmaediting?
00:17.58IceD^it's the same unusable as in kde2
00:18.06benJImanit is a bit of a mess
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00:18.16annmaIceD^: same, write a bug report as a wish with your idea
00:18.29annmaIceD^: it's the moment as for kde4 there'll be BIG changes
00:18.41IceD^benJIman: use right words - completly unusable, not a bit of mess ;]
00:19.14IceD^annma: I'm 100% sure that bug request with `make toolbars editor finally usable` will be rejected
00:19.24benJImanIceD^: I wouldn't say completely unusable, completely unsuable I reserve for things like the gtk file dialogue, the toolbar editing is usuable just a mild inconvenience
00:19.32annmaIceD^: it cannopt be closed like that
00:19.51annmaIceD^: so at least it'll stay
00:19.55IceD^benJIman: ;]
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00:19.58annmamake people vote for it
00:21.45IceD^yeah
00:21.59IceD^my first kde bug is staying since 1999 or so
00:23.26IceD^wow
00:24.20IceD^that navigating feature (when you press Ctrl) in the new konqueror rocks
00:24.40benJImanI think most browsers support it
00:24.52benJImanaccesskeys I assume you mean
00:25.06benJImanit's nice though
00:25.18IceD^never seen in in other browsers
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00:26.42rredanyone here familiar with ACPI under KDE ? Eg, the Laptop Battery area of the control center?
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00:27.13rredI'm trying to configure "Power Control" for sleep states, and I don't know what "Don't act if LAV > ..." means
00:29.31rredguess i'll try #linux
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00:32.21chinowhere is the on screen keybaord ?
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00:35.27runnerais there a way to get the BOUNCE feature back?
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00:36.51annmaBOUNCE?
00:36.54annmathe cursor?
00:37.26IceD^runnera: kcontrol
00:37.45IceD^runnera: Launch Feedback
00:38.03ManeitAre there any vids of the talks at akademy?
00:38.28annmayes Maneit
00:38.37Maneitannma: Where do I get them? :)
00:38.38annmago to the aKademy page and see in schedule
00:38.39unleet(KDE 3.4.2-0.fc4.1 Fedora 4) Odd issue, when I log in, tray icons for KDE services (like the battery monitor and knemo) aren't visible even though the program is running. I found a workaround, restart the relevant service, or toggle the icon display setting for it, but that gets old. Any idea why or a fix?
00:39.46runnerahmm my kmail 1.8.2 doesn't seem to have the BOUNCE feature anymore!
00:39.48runnerais there a way to get the BOUNCE feature back?
00:40.04mpynerunnera: You mean Bounce a Message?
00:40.21Ringwraith`how do i install KblowJ
00:40.23IceD^ahh
00:40.32Maneitannma: I seem only to see transcirpts and slides :>
00:40.38annmarunnera: explain your BOUNCE please
00:41.00runnerayes bounce a message
00:41.10runneraan older version of kmail i was using let me right click on the message and BONCE it back
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00:41.51_knoppixwow knoppix is awesome
00:42.05hydrogenblasphemy
00:42.14_knoppixI just got it
00:42.18_knoppixit works good
00:42.32hydrogenBLASHPEMY
00:42.38_knoppixI got an inspiron 9300 and it found all hardware
00:42.44IceD^runnera: ?
00:42.52_knoppixno other distro did that
00:43.14_knoppixeven wireless workr\ed right
00:43.15annmaManeit: look at on top
00:43.15IceD^_knoppix: suse
00:43.26IceD^ok
00:43.27IceD^brb
00:43.30annmaManeit: Overview and Schedule (29th/30th of August, 2005)
00:43.30annmaVideos are now being uploaded.
00:43.37Maneitannma: right, thanks! :)
00:43.42mpynerunnera: Not sure where it went to.
00:44.04_knoppixwhich distro do you prefer ?
00:45.23runnerahmm
00:45.58annmaknoppix is not a distro, it's a live CD
00:46.37mpyneannma: It can also be a distro though, I believe it has a HD install option.
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00:46.51mpyneAfter that it's more or less Debian + patches.
00:46.52_knoppixyes it does although I havent tried it yet
00:46.53annmayes but no packages after, mpyne
00:47.00annmait installs
00:47.11annmabut after you cannot get knoppix packages
00:47.20_knoppixyes you can
00:47.26annmaand you are left with debian stuff
00:47.30_knoppixit has an updater
00:47.44annmapeople who install it generally say it's difficult to maintain
00:47.56annma_knoppix: maybe it works, I just report what I heard
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00:48.15_knoppixwell so far its the only one that I dont have to spend days compiling drivers
00:48.50_knoppixeven suse didnt install easily
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00:49.30_knoppixanybody using fedora core 4 yet ?
00:49.46unleetI am
00:50.00_knoppixhow did you get an uncorrupt download ?
00:50.07_knoppixI been trying for days
00:50.31unleetI don't know, Mine just worked the first time
00:50.50_knoppixI have like 8 corrupt downloads all from different mirrors
00:50.58unleetif you're referring to media check though, it's a bit overly strict, it's possible your discs are fine
00:51.05_knoppixdoh
00:51.12_knoppixyour kidding right ?
00:51.47_knoppixso I guess beating my router with a hammer was unwarranted
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00:51.50unleetit's mentioned on www.fedorafaq.org
00:53.50_knoppixwell thanks for that little tidbit I will go try it
00:54.49unleetnow I'm still trying to figure out why I have to toggle the tray icon display setting for the battery monitor for it to show up
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00:55.00unleetby toggle, I mean turn off then back on
00:55.14_knoppixI had a similar problem with suse
00:55.25unleethow'd you fix it?
00:55.30unleetor did you...
00:55.37_knoppixnever figured it out
00:55.41unleetoh
00:55.46_knoppixblew out suse and tried mandriva
00:55.51unleethaha
00:55.53_knoppixmandriva sucked
00:56.06unleetfunny thing, it worked right for my first login, and never again
00:56.14_knoppixhmm thats odd
00:56.26_knoppixon suse it never workr\ed right off the bat
00:56.35_knoppixwhat notebook ya got ?
00:56.43unleetit's a gateway
00:56.51_knoppixcentrino ?
00:56.53unleetyup
00:57.04unleetactually everything works beutifully now
00:57.13_knoppixeven wireless ?
00:57.18unleetexcept a few cosmetic issues, like the tray icons for services
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00:57.43unleetyeah... had to get the wireless firware seperately, which was a bit of a puzzle
00:57.51unleetbut after that, perfect
00:57.55_knoppixyup just like mandriva
00:58.09_knoppixtook me a whole day to track that one down
00:58.35unleetI just googled it... quick fix
00:58.47_knoppixtry googling it with mandriva
00:58.52_knoppixnot so easy
00:59.14CRXLNXdoes anyone know how too make the 3.4.2 pannel zoom icons like 3.3?
00:59.29unleetah
00:59.30_knoppixI had about 8 machines open at once all with aabout 20 searches each
00:59.40unleetwow... harsh
00:59.40mpyneI believe icon zooming died with 3.4.  The code was too brittle.
00:59.48_knoppixyeah mandriva blows
00:59.52CRXLNX:^(
01:00.31_knoppixI like the look of suse the best but they change all their commands
01:00.36CRXLNXI loved it I used it to clone OSX and had some fun with my Mac friends
01:00.40_knoppixmakes it a pain in the ass
01:01.05mpyneCRXLNX: Well there are still Mac OS X-lookalike programs on kde-look.org.
01:01.17CRXLNXSUSE is german.....................ever drive a bmw or porsche
01:01.18CRXLNX?
01:01.25CRXLNXthey are different
01:01.25_knoppixI got mac OS X to boot on my x86
01:01.30CRXLNXNICE
01:01.32unleetyeah... I've seen a funky dock clone on kde-look
01:01.42CRXLNXyou meen Darwin right???
01:01.46_knoppixits pretty stable too
01:02.32_knoppixI got a copy from a friend who is working on the big intel processor switch for apple
01:03.02_knoppixI think with the speed increase its gonna boost mac sales a lot
01:03.23CRXLNXAHHHH..................DCC?
01:03.31CRXLNX;^)
01:04.11_knoppixok just finishefedora dvd and of course it passedd checking my
01:04.29_knoppixwow this thing garbled my text
01:04.32_knoppixweird
01:04.35unleet_knoppix, btw: the only wifi complaint I have on linux is that I can't use my campus wifi with it yet
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01:04.45_knoppixwhy not ?
01:05.13_knoppixoh because of encryption
01:05.16unleetwell.... in windows, it would require using Cisco VPN software
01:05.29_knoppixyeah that seems to be a problem with most linux distro
01:05.43_knoppixthey will fix it soon
01:05.48unleetit's just ipsec straight over the "wire"
01:05.49_knoppixthey have to
01:06.08_knoppixno alternative for vpn ?
01:06.13unleetplus some authentication.... probably RADIUS, but I'm not sure
01:06.36unleetwell, the alternative is to go to the library and plug in
01:06.44_knoppixlol
01:06.47unleetthat just checks MAC address
01:07.14_knoppixok gonna go try fedora install be back ina bit
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01:09.32NeverDreamHow do I turn the intl keyboard variant off?
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01:12.02NeverDreammy xorg.conf file specifies the 'us' layout, but in Control Center I can't get the intl keyboard variant off
01:13.20scxhey guys...
01:14.49scxI were using
01:14.51mpyneNeverDream: Have you already gone to KControl -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Layout?
01:14.55scxTheGimp
01:15.06scxand crashed
01:15.27scxdoes not matter,.... there's a backup
01:15.34scxbut I have a satured swap
01:15.52NeverDreammpyne, yeah
01:15.59scxhow do I may clear the unused things from memory ?
01:16.05NeverDreamwhen I click the variant drop-box, it only has intl
01:16.12mpyneNeverDream: Have you unchecked "Enable Keyboard Layouts" (at the top)?
01:16.18NeverDreamyeah
01:16.34mpyneWell the whole dialog should be disabled if it's unchecked.
01:16.39NeverDreamit is
01:16.47mpyneYou might also have to restart KDE once you save the settings.
01:16.56NeverDreamdid that, too :S
01:17.35mpyneHuh.  KDE shouldn't run setxkbmap if the dialog is disabled IIRC.
01:18.13NeverDreamI have a script that switches betweent he 2 layouts in my .profile
01:18.26strawthat's a bug, i'll bet. i've had that happen. intl can't br removed from the setxkbmap cmd line, iirc
01:18.26NeverDreambut it? not in the guest profile and it has the same problem
01:18.30mpyneIf you can't beat 'em, join 'em.  You can try using the en_US profile instead of 'us'.
01:18.40CRXLNXHas anyone had Kasbar not switch task when you click on an icon in it?  KDE 3.4.2
01:18.48NeverDreammpyne, is that much different?
01:19.04mpyneNo, for my x.org is just has a few extra characters but the map is the same.
01:19.06strawmpyne: i believe that was the work-around i used
01:19.09mpyne€ for instance.
01:19.27mpyneOtherwise it's a completely standard US PC 104 layout.
01:19.46NeverDreamok :)
01:20.36NeverDreamthanks
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01:28.12Oleg_I went to the agency that gives jobs to people with disabilities and they will soon send me to the place where they gonna find out what my skills are, what I can do; stuff like that
01:28.40Oleg_but I wanna curse
01:28.46Oleg_because I am angry
01:29.10Oleg_not understanding the world
01:30.51Oleg_I am suffering
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01:37.06Oleg_oh, qt 4.0.1 was released!
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01:38.38Oleg_kde 3.4.2 can run on qt 4.0.1?
01:38.53mpyneOleg_: no
01:39.06Oleg_ok
01:39.08mpyneOleg_: KDE 3.x requires Qt 3.  In this case KDE 3.4 requires Qt 3.3.
01:39.21mpyne(or better, as long as it's Qt 3)
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01:46.40AlethesI wonder if Google knows (or cares) that maps.google.com seems to work fine in konq
01:47.10Alethesmostly :)
01:47.56hydrogendoesn't work for me :/
01:48.16hydrogenI get a gray page
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01:48.35hydrogenoh
01:48.36hydrogennvm
01:48.37hydrogenmy fault
01:49.42hydrogenstill a bit slower renderwise
01:49.44hydrogenbut works :)
01:50.50Alethesyeah
01:51.02AlethesI don't know any difference with the speed, 'cause I'm on dialup anyway
01:51.08Alethesso no matter what it's gonna be slow
01:51.23Aletheshowever, I know from my own experience that XMLHttpRequest is slower with khtml than anything else
01:58.19chavoAlethes, you around?
01:58.27AlethesI am
01:58.33Alethesthat's why I was just talking :P
01:58.41chavocheck this out http://2sdw.com/breadcrumb_vista.jpg
01:58.48Alethesok, gimme a sec
01:59.01chavoyou can edit the path in Vista explorer
01:59.34Alethesin the same box?
01:59.41chavoyes
01:59.59chavodo yoe see the pic?
02:00.18Aletheshang on let me get it
02:03.04Alethesah that's nifty
02:03.13AlethesI think that'd be a good model to copy
02:03.18Aletheseither that or two separate toolbars
02:03.24chavoyeah it works very well
02:03.38chavodoing a tollbar would be easy
02:03.48Alethesyeah, I'd think so
02:04.00Alethesif nothing else, maybe it'll get some people thinking of ways to make it better by integrating or whatever
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02:05.18chavoIt's just a great idea, one of those Why didn't I think of that, things
02:05.21Phoulfor apache for linux i need to find the line i can change the default for the html to php
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02:06.26hydrogenDirectoryIndex
02:06.44Phouli cant find the config file XD
02:07.14Aletheslocate httpd.conf
02:07.29frb-workfind /etc/apache2 | xargs grep DirectoryIndex
02:08.12ManeitDoes anyone know if xgl is something you can install now, on top of a x.org-installation and use with KDE?
02:08.14mpynefind /etc/apache2 | xargs grep -l DirectoryIndex :)
02:08.36frb-workfind /etc/apache2 -print0 | xargs -0 grep -i -l DirectoryIndex
02:08.59frb-workfind /etc/apache2 -type f -or -type l -print0 | xargs -0 grep -i -l DirectoryIndex
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02:13.35unleetok, new question, the KDE services, is there a way to stop and start them from the command line, or a script? I'm thinking of automating my KDE tray workaround.
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02:21.40frbunleet: probably dcop
02:21.49unleethmm... ok
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02:25.27unleetexcellent, that seems to do it
02:29.10unleetwell... at least I can restart klaptopd that way
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03:00.02unleetso, what's a good icon for an ugly kludge? ;-)
03:01.49mobtekheh any icon from kvirc :P
03:01.59unleethaha
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03:02.41unleetI ask because I just wrote a script to restart those KDE services that seem to lose their tray icons, and I'm making the .desktop file for it in Autostart :-P
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03:03.42unleetand yes, I understand no one will see this, so it needs no icon, this is for personal gratification
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03:10.49birchoffanyone know where kopete stores its chat history
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03:11.57birchoffAnyone know where kopete stores its history of chats
03:12.30aseigo`kde-config --localprefix`/share/apps/kopete/logs/
03:14.32birchoffok
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03:23.28Oleg_hello?
03:23.34Oleg_is anybody around?
03:23.51Oleg_where can I download the latest nodes for the FastTrack plugin?
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04:06.06gui_algum brasuca ??
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04:18.54Oleg_hi
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04:58.02Oleg_people, I am all alone
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04:58.30Oleg_and feel like a loser
05:01.00Oleg_is there a channel on the network devoted to people who have disabilities?
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05:33.19marcusUOkay. In kdeedu, cc1plus gets > 735 MB process size. That's just weird.
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05:44.55pembo13anyone here knows how to configure KOrganizer to publish ones schedule to an ftp location?
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05:58.32eisregenpembo13: control center -> KDE Components -> KDE Resources [Calendar]: Add -> Calendar in Remote File
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05:59.32pembo13i meant to publish it in html
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06:09.10eisregenyes ....
06:09.42eisregenftp://user:pass@somehost/path/to/file.html
06:10.15eisregenpembo13: of course you can leave out the password /user and let kwallet store that for you ...
06:11.21eisregenpembo13: btw, you can use every protocol supported by kde in every kde application ...
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06:13.50pembo13eisregen, yah, that's why I love KDE
06:14.04pembo13eisregen, i love kioslaves
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06:15.25pembo13eisregen, i thought that was replaced by fish://
06:16.11eisregenpembo13: I thought those were two independent mechanisms ^^ sftp is faster I believe ...
06:16.36pembo13eisregen, i don't know, i was asking, have only tried fish so far
06:17.52eisregenpembo13: fish only needs ssh and perl ... sftp uses sftp ... if I remember correcly ...
06:18.12pembo13eisregen, ahh, interesting
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06:23.47eisregenbye =)
06:28.51pembo13peace
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06:35.49pembo13is it possible to automatically publish my KOrganizer schedule?
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06:42.22physospembo13: as a webpage?
06:42.41pembo13yes
06:42.47physospembo13: you can store the calendar you want to publish on a server (ICal)
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06:43.10pembo13hmm, was looking for simple html auto publsihing via ftp
06:43.11physospembo13: but the exporting to a webpage can not be automized from inside KOrganizer AFAIKS
06:43.17pembo13ok cool
06:43.25physospembo13: DCOP may help
06:43.34pembo13ah, yes
06:43.35pembo13ok
06:43.45physospembo13: and perheaps somebody on kde-pimusers@kde.org has an answer.
06:43.55physoskde-pim-users
06:43.58pembo13i shall file a wish list
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07:26.00robbie_can non-kde apps write to files in remote ftp folders using fish:// ?
07:26.16robbie_I want to use nvu to write html remotely
07:26.31robbie_you know how you set up a network place?
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08:51.21pinucsetone think please. I'vei nstalled kde on ubuntu and when I open an application appears the logo of the application jumping. How can i disable this please?
08:52.04scroogiein the control center
08:52.08pinotreepinucset: kcontrol -> appearance& themes -> alunch feedback -> busy cursos
08:52.10scroogieyou can choose the startup effect there
08:52.15pinucsetthanks!
08:52.44pinotreepinucset: choose "no busy cursor"
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09:01.23pinucsetsorry but, wich is the kde default theme?
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09:03.19chavopinucset: default is plastik
09:03.26pinotreepinucset: kde's default is plastik
09:03.29chavobut some distros change it
09:03.35pinotreepinucset: but some distrs change it
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09:04.40benJImankubuntu uses lipstik iirc
09:04.47renjiiHi, i cant locate the plugins configurations in the konqueror config dialogue- what gives?
09:05.02renjiiI emerged most kde components seperately
09:05.04benJImanrenjii: settings -> configure extension
09:08.15renjiibenJIman, not what I was looking for- specifically, the section in which i can specify the mozilla paths that looks for plugins in the /usr/lib directory.
09:09.12benJImanah, odd
09:09.32renjiiis it because I am using fluxbox?
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09:47.43FlendorGood morning.
09:47.59pinotreemorning Flendor =)
09:49.53FlendorHey there pinotree! How are you?
09:50.00pinotreefine, thanks
09:50.29pinotreeand you?
09:50.45FlendorOh, quite fine..
09:51.10pinotree=)
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10:00.08FlendorOh well. Better play some games. See you!
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10:08.56paikanis it possible to use artwiz font with konsole?
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10:12.29DrZootjust reading the apple ipod nano press release, one of the catch phrases used is "So small, it will take your music places you never dreamed of", i think the marketing exec that thought that little gem up is prolly going to regret it
10:12.45DrZootits not like the current ipod is bulky at any rate anyway
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10:19.17pinucsetone think please, i have kde installed on my ubuntu system. What i have to put to the repositorys because when i do dist-upgrade it installes the last kde (stable?)
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10:21.56pinotreepinucset: take a look here: http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php
10:25.59pinucsetthanks pinotree :D
10:26.03pinotreenp
10:26.05pinotree:)
10:26.14pinucsetyes
10:26.20pinucseti've copied this at sources.list
10:26.27pinucsetthe apt-get upgrade will install the last stable kde?
10:26.46pinucsetdeb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main because it puts 342 , when kde will be at 3.5 will be upgraded with this line?
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10:27.24pinotreemm.. no
10:27.50pinotreebut i think there will be a repo for hoary when kde 3.5 will be released
10:28.01pinotree*i think*
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10:31.38pinucsetok!
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10:35.31mkl1525Hi, does anybody know if there is a svn-plugin for konqueror?
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10:37.39pinotreemkl1525: iirc, kdesdk 3.5 should have one
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10:40.12mkl1525thanks will have a look
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10:44.02roberhi
10:44.12roberanyone tried to compile latest kde with gcc-4.0.1 ?
10:44.49roberhi pinotree !
10:44.59roberdid it work ?
10:45.14pinotreeQt: 3.3.4
10:45.14pinotreeKDE: 3.4.90 (alpha1, >= 20050806)
10:45.14pinotreekde-config: 1.0
10:45.18pinotreeyes :)
10:45.36robermmm
10:45.50pinotreewell, only kwallet got crazy, but i worked-around the issue
10:45.51roberi am interesed in runtime speed improvement
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10:46.06pinotreemm... i don't care too much about speed...
10:46.24roberbut... have you noticed an improvement ?
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10:48.05pinotreewell, my session is bg as an elephant, so i can't do too many speed tests :-)
10:48.16pinotrees/too//
10:48.17roberbg ?
10:48.22pinotreebig*
10:48.25roberoh
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10:52.46Oleg_aseigo, canllaith, brucehoult, illogical, Dhraakellian, slayer, hi!
10:53.06Oleg_anyone of you is around here?
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11:03.32setitedoes anyone think that bsd kde is gimp?
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11:05.40pinotreesetite: eh?
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11:10.56DocTomoeProblem description: using kubuntu breezy, I installed kde-i18n-de ... tried to add german to the avalible languages ... German appears in the dropdown field, but gets not added to the languages list after I clicked. System remains using English. I'm suspecting there is some kind of read-only addribute set, but I cannot find where the language preferences are saved. any idea?
11:11.20setitesorry... im new and i see that bsd kde doesnt have much backsupport... is that bad or does it not matter
11:11.30setiteim desperately looking for a good distro to try
11:11.44DocTomoesetite: try kubuntu.
11:12.00setitei have it
11:12.28setiteits great but im looking for a real good 64bit distro
11:12.56DocTomoehave you installed the 64bit-kernel?
11:13.48setitei have kubuntu desktop installed over 64bit ubuntu
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11:17.00setiteill look through more reviews
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11:29.53Poldarkgood afternoon
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11:47.31moodwrodis there a way to get a nice/short list of all apps released with kde?
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11:53.27illustrehow do u control screen saver in kde
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12:05.20illustrehow do u control screen saver in kde
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12:14.27jowenn|amd64is it possible to configure kdm to have  a second login on a second display ?
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12:16.10grepperjowenn|amd64: yes
12:17.09jowenn|amd64which kde versions and where is the setting hidden ?
12:17.22grepperkdmre
12:17.33grepperuncomment the ReserveServers line if you have it
12:17.53grepperReserveServers=:1,:2,:3
12:18.07grepperat least with 3.4.x
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12:26.26jowenn|amd64grepper: thanks, looks like my kdm is too old
12:26.39grepperjowenn|amd64: which kde ?
12:28.00grepperjowenn|amd64: its still possible, it just uses a different file in kde 3.x
12:28.33grepper/etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers on debian
12:34.06Thedoktoris there a tool for configuring samba via kde?
12:37.47jowenn|amd64grepper: that works, thanks
12:38.07greppernp
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13:18.57bartdenhi, i keep getting this error when i install something from kde : Function kde_src_compile, Line 158, Exitcode 77 !!! died running ./configure, kde_src_compile:configure
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13:56.27JPHi, I would lika to know the latest information of the bug #91575 (misplacement of icons). Sombedoy knows if it has been already fixed? Thanks!
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14:10.02srednaMAN I hope sometimes there will be a kde version with a panel that DOES NOT CRASH SEVERAL TIMES A DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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14:32.41davidhousehey, has anyone got any experience adding WMA support to taglib?
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15:34.45srednat35t0r: They might be able to help better in #digikam
15:34.53t35t0rheh there's a channel like that?
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16:03.23amai have ivman, dbus, and hal running, however my media:/ does not work
16:03.36amai am using gentoo with kdebase, i do not know if i need any other extra packages
16:03.47amaor if it should just work with kdebase
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16:23.18amahow do i get my media:/ plugin to work, i have ivman dbus, and hal
16:23.26Zxcvbisn't working
16:23.28amaall running, i am using the default kdebase too
16:24.55Zxcvbok, it isn't recognizing some of the .desktop files
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16:31.31srednaama: Given you enable it for KDE, yes
16:32.45amai did
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16:33.03amabut, it seems like its still in fake transparency mode
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16:33.05thiagochino: huh?
16:33.28amadoes anyone here use dmix, instead of arts?
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16:33.53hydrogenyes
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16:35.15chmeeea question I haven't found an answer to:  Can kdm run a login script before logging a user in?
16:36.11chmeeeand a logout hook as well
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16:37.28amahydrogen: do you have the kde sound theme running?
16:37.59hydrogenno
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16:44.16chinohow do set XF86Music and such other functions in kde ?
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16:46.34chinoi know its set somewhere becuase some of them work allready like the volumen up button on my keyboard
16:49.06thiagochino: in any application
16:49.09thiagoor khotkeys or kmilo
16:49.24chinoidk what you mean
16:49.27chinoimo looking at khotkeys righ tnow
16:49.32chinowhere the volumne setup
16:49.38chinowhere can i set xmms as the player to start
16:49.42chinoor gaim as the messenger to start
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16:51.55Zxcvbany idea why cnn video crashes konqueror sometimes?
16:52.46stumped42Zxcvb: does that to me too dunno why
16:52.52chinoso thats a dcop call ?
16:53.42Zxcvbstumped42: using kmplayer?
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16:54.35Zxcvbstumped42: I have noticed that more websites don't care that you are trying to access windows media streams from a non-windows browser
16:55.44stumped42yeah I have seen that too. i have found that when konqueror crashes you can still see the parameters that are passed to mplayer in the process list and so I copy it and then add -dumpstream (and remove the superfluous switches) that way at least you get to see it
16:56.15Zxcvbstumped42: it doesn't always happen though
16:56.38stumped42Zxcvb: thnakfully
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16:56.57Zxcvbstumped42: I think I have found a way around it
16:57.04stumped42Zxcvb: share?
16:57.46Zxcvbstumped42: click on the browse/search thing where it says free videos
16:58.02Zxcvbstumped42: select a video and let it start, then close the window
16:58.12Zxcvbstumped42: did that earlier and it hasn't crashed yet
16:58.41Zxcvbstumped42: what kmplayer do you have?
16:58.43stumped42Zxcvb: cool ill try that next time
16:59.03stumped420.8.4-rc5
16:59.04Zxcvbstumped42: if it os 0.9x then touch .kde/share/apps/kmplayer/intro.xml
16:59.18Zxcvbstumped42: do the same with exit.xml
16:59.48Zxcvbstumped42: that will disable the intro/exit animations when you start kmplayer and possibly reduce konqueror crashes
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17:00.10Zxcvbstumped42: I also set konqueror to spoof as firefox
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17:03.48me_herehow do i get a kde-theme installed ? i downloaded a theme.deb and installed it but the theme manager doesn't show anything, anyone who can help ?
17:05.21stumped42Zxcvb: i have an older version it doesnt appear to have any animations
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17:09.35Zxcvbstumped42: not sure if it was the going to browse first or the user agent that fixed it
17:10.32stumped42Zxcvb: mine doesnt crash that often so im not to worried
17:10.42stumped42s/to/too/g
17:11.02Zxcvbstumped42: just added firefox 1.0.6 to the list of user agent strings
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17:16.11chinois tehre a command i can use to logout ?
17:16.20chinoi figured out thes multimedia keys
17:17.11chinocan i set a key to do more than one thing like if hte application is allready open then it will execute another command ?
17:21.12chinohow do i turn on the screen savor ?
17:21.43hydrogenhrm
17:21.46hydrogenanyone know how to fix this?
17:21.49hydrogenAuthorization failed, Authentication support is not compiled into kio_smtp. authentication not supported
17:22.24chinoi gues compile it in
17:26.35hydrogenWhy wouldn't it be compiled in
17:33.05pinucsetone question, the letters of kde terminal are very little. How can i put they ALWAYS bigger please?
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17:34.18frbpinucset: change the text size in the menu, then save as default
17:34.50frbright click -> settings -> font, then right click -> settings -> ssave sas defalut
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17:50.36rabaukeHello!
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17:51.53rabaukeIs there any reason not to have a link that puts kmail's Mail-dir on another partition than the one .kde is on?
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17:55.41Zxcvbis there any weather applet for kde that gets it's weather data from weather.com or a similar site (not the noaa)
17:57.05rabaukeZxcvb:  superkaramba has got weather applets
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17:59.00Zxcvbrabauke: that completly redoes kde right?
17:59.25rabaukeWhat do you mean by redo? It just sits on your desktop
17:59.36benJImanZxcvb: look on kde-look.org at superkaramba themes
18:00.31Zxcvbis it possible to keep everything the way it is except for adding a superkaramba weather applet?
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18:01.40ZxcvbI thought superkaramba completely replaced the existing kde theme
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18:02.44rabaukeno  it does not change it, it's just an extra
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18:02.48solemnwarninghi all
18:03.01solemnwarningwhere does flash need to be installed for konqueror?
18:03.09solemnwarninglike mozilla is /usr/lib/mozilla
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18:03.25PieDsolemnwarning: where you want
18:03.25benJImansolemnwarning: wherever you want, you can set konqueror to search for mozilla plugins in whatever location
18:03.45ZxcvbI recommend modifying flash to disable sound first
18:03.55solemnwarningwhere does it search by default?
18:04.06solemnwarningZxcvb: WHY??
18:04.31Zxcvbannoying flash sites that insist on blasting you with noise when you are listening to mp3s or whatever
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18:04.59benJImansolemnwarning: depends how your distro has set it up, look in settings -> configure konqueror -> plugins
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18:10.09svizzeroanyone knows how to start a program automatically after kde started?
18:10.55gmg9~/.kde/Autostart
18:10.57aptit has been said that /.kde/autostart is empty.
18:11.34Zxcvbsuperkaramba won't compile
18:11.51Zxcvbn file included from dcopinterface_stub.h:12,
18:11.51Zxcvb<PROTECTED>
18:11.51Zxcvb<PROTECTED>
18:11.51Zxcvb/usr/local/kde/include/dcopstub.h:78: error: parse error before `int'
18:11.51Zxcvb/usr/local/kde/include/dcopstub.h:78: error: missing ';' before right brace
18:11.52Zxcvb/usr/local/kde/include/dcopstub.h:86: error: non-member function `int status()'
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18:13.17frbhow do I capture the screen?
18:13.17physosfrb: ksnapshot
18:13.17chavowaht are the lines right before those?
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18:13.31chavolooks like your missing some dependency
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18:13.58Zxcvbchavo: dependancies?
18:14.29Zxcvbthen mv -f ".deps/superkaramba.all_cpp.Tpo" ".deps/superkaramba.all_cpp.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/superkaramba.all_cpp.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
18:15.01physosfrb: or Alt+PrtScr for the active window or Ctrl+PrtScr for the whole screen (to clipboard)
18:15.11chavoZxcvb: paste the last 20 lines or so in #paste
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18:15.26bimbohello
18:15.29bimboI have two questions
18:16.21frbok, if my screen is 1024.768, my panels are 24px each, and my window decoration is... 3 px? that means my max viewable rez is 994x738?
18:17.51physosfrb: ???
18:18.22frbI'm trying to make a fullsize krdc session that doesn't scroll, and doesn't overlap my panels
18:18.51physosfrb: thats a bug in krdc, it should be able to scale down
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18:19.07dma147good evening...
18:19.13frbit assumes you mean what you said, and creates a scrollable desktop
18:19.20bimbook, 1st question, how can I change the behavior of changing between desktops (with the mouse), I don't want to change desktop with the mouse, only with a defined keybind
18:19.57bimbo2nd: how can I make the window of konqueror (to view local files) remember its size?
18:20.00physosfrb: no, it scales.
18:20.06chavobimbo: Configure Desktop -> Multiple Desktops
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18:20.25chavobimbo: 2 ways for the second
18:20.26physosfrb: only place it did not for me, was SUSE 9.3
18:20.48frbwell, that's what I have :/
18:21.03frbI've done the scaling thing before, it was hideous
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18:21.14bimbochavo: for the 1st answer no, there's no option in there to stop changing the desktops with the mouse
18:21.18frbI want a pixel for pixel display that fits in my window
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18:21.33chavothis is the easiest way -> open your home folder, set the window how you want it, then Settings -> Save View Profile
18:21.38physosfrb: good luck.
18:22.00chavobimbo: do you mean mouse scrolling over the desktop?
18:22.11frbI did it before I had 2 panels
18:22.21dma147I've modified the toolbar of kmail in kontact and while I've added the icon for "manually mark a mail as spam" it crashed and won't start anymore... :(
18:22.33bimbochavo: no, when I pass the mouse near any place surrounding the screen it switches desktop
18:22.42chavodma147: make sure it's not still running
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18:22.50chavobimbo: ah ok
18:23.00dma147chavo: 1 moment
18:23.07frbbut now I've lost my session
18:23.15lord_crowhi all
18:23.23physosbimbo: and that is default where?
18:23.37bimbophysos: for some reason, here
18:24.03bimboI believe I did it a while ago, but now I can't remember what I modified
18:24.10chavobimbo: click any window's icon and hit Configure Window Behaviuor
18:24.37physosbimbo: Right Mouse Button on a Window title bar --> Window Behaviour --> (sec)
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18:24.55physosbimbo: advanced --> Active Desktop Borders
18:25.00dma147chavo: nothing is running related to "kmail" or "kontact"
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18:25.21bimbophysos: chavo thank you =)
18:25.22chavoHa, now I can't find it
18:25.31chavooh you you found it, good
18:25.50chavoOh there it is
18:25.58bimboand to specify a keybinding to switch desktops?
18:26.03dma147chavo: strace says something about: "read(3, *** KMail got signal 11 (Crashing)..."
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18:26.24physosbimbo: KControl --> Regional & Accessibility --> Keyboard Shortcuts
18:26.59bimbothank you again physos
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18:28.50dma147chavo: read(3,...) ... "3" seems to be:   socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM, 0)         = 3
18:29.00dma147chavo: but what is PF_FILE?
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18:29.33chavodma147: no idea
18:30.21bimbowhich is the "win" key?
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18:31.06dma147chavo: hmm... kmail starts without problems...
18:31.38frbhow can I safely restart konquerer? it's behaving erratically on smb access
18:31.48dma147that's a problem of kontact. But I've only change the toolbar of kmail...?
18:31.53dma147+d
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18:54.13Frogbarfis there a reason why k3b would create iso files, but not recognise them? I get an error that keeps saying "Seems not to be a usable image"
18:55.16kwwiiI would guess that it is a problem with the md5 sum check
18:55.34Frogbarfhmm
18:55.44Frogbarfshould I reinstall a package to fix that?
18:56.07kwwiican you make an image with mkisofs and see if that works?
18:57.02Frogbarfwhat would be a simple command to do that? Sorry I have never used that directly
18:57.16Frogbarflot's of options there
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18:57.31PhilRodmkisofs -r file.iso directory/
18:57.33kwwiimkisofs -o filename  path-to-files
18:57.34PhilRodI think
18:57.46PhilRodoh yeah, what kwwii said
18:57.58kwwiiyeah, -r does it recursively, so if you do a whole dir use -r too
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18:58.49kwwiiouch...no!
18:58.52kwwiino -r
18:59.08Frogbarfthansk
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18:59.32kwwii-R makes Rock Ridge stuff so that windows has more info
18:59.39kwwiinot needed on linux
18:59.48Frogbarfthis is cool
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19:00.46Frogbarfmkisofs -or packages          is what i enterd.
19:00.54Frogbarfnot sure where it put the iso now
19:01.00Frogbarfpackages is the directory
19:01.15kwwiiwell, if you did not specify a path, it will be in the dir where you ran the command
19:01.32kwwiithe first name has to be the name of the resulting iso image
19:01.46stevepiscionetestng
19:02.04kwwiiso...mkisofs -o name-of-resulting-file.iso path-to-files
19:02.24kwwiithe second name tells it which files to use to make the iso
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19:02.47Frogbarfah
19:02.52PhilRoda fun one is to make the resulting .iso in the directory you're trying to create an iso *of*
19:02.58Frogbarfdid it
19:02.59PhilRodI've done that more than once
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19:03.13Frogbarfso now i try to read it with k3b
19:03.40Frogbarfk3b can read that
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19:06.33kwwiiwow, sounds like a problem with either k3b itself, or the options turned on when making/butning the iso image using k3b
19:06.52kwwiis/butning/burning
19:07.17Frogbarfi am creating another image now with k3b from a cd that i have copied in the past
19:08.32Frogbarfdoesn't k3b use mkisofs?
19:09.23kwwiiI would guess so but I am not sure
19:11.26kwwiiwhich kde are you using? which k3b are you using?
19:12.01Frogbarf3.4.2 level b.    It did it even with the default install from my suse 9.3 distro
19:12.07Frogbarfi used to work fine
19:12.18kwwiimake sure that you are writing the iso image to the right place - check in the "image" tab in the copy cd dialog
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19:13.29Frogbarfi am looking at the cd copy dialog box now.  I don't see an image tab.
19:13.45Frogbarfi see my temp directory path as my home directory
19:13.57kwwiiis there enough space there?
19:13.59Frogbarfcopy mode is "Normal Copy"
19:14.02Frogbarfyes
19:14.09Frogbarfplenty of space
19:14.12kwwiihmmm, sounds weird to me
19:14.29kwwiimaybe it simply b0rked on something making the image and now is smart enough not to burn it
19:14.47kwwiihow many times have you tried doing this?
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19:15.09Frogbarfi have been trying to fix it since yesterday
19:15.56kwwiifunky
19:16.08PhilRodkwwii: do you know offhand if there's an eps version of the KDE gear logo around somewhere? Or alternatively, if there's an easy way to convert it from svg?
19:16.13kwwiimaybe there is a problem with the filenames, or such
19:16.32Frogbarfit's the default k3b filename
19:16.32kwwiiPhilRod: I would open it with inkscape and then save as eps
19:16.55kwwiiFrogbarf:  I meant the files you are making the iso out of, not the name of the image file
19:17.23PhilRodthanks kwwii
19:17.41Frogbarfi cam making the iso files out of a cd rom
19:18.12Frogbarfi first copy the cd rom to an image with k3b, then when i tell it to read the image it won't
19:18.49kwwiiFrogbarf: funky, I really don't know, sorry
19:19.16Frogbarfnp, it's been driving me a bit crazy
19:19.39kwwiiI can imagine
19:19.53physoskwwii: soe not work with about_kde.svg (Inkscape) I get a white rectangle.
19:20.06physoss/soe/does/
19:20.20kwwiiphysos: ouch, sounds like a problem with transparency
19:20.28physosumph
19:21.49kwwiiif you are using it to print you need the cmyk color version anyway
19:21.53physoskwwii: thanks. the flat one works.
19:22.09physoskwwii: might be better for the PDFs anyway.
19:22.09kwwiiphysos: that one should be used for printing anyway :-)
19:22.10pinucsetone question, the letters of kde terminal are very little. How can i put they ALWAYS bigger please?
19:22.30kwwiiphysos: have you tried making a pdf from the svg? that might work better
19:23.41kwwiiFrogbarf: are you using the "copy CD" option in k3b?
19:23.45physoshttp://physos.net/kde_pdf/kdelogo.eps
19:23.47Frogbarfyes
19:24.05kwwiiwow, sorry that I could not help more
19:24.07Frogbarfclone copy works
19:24.20kwwiicool
19:25.15Frogbarfi will try a diff cd
19:25.36physoskwwii: Thanks for the help, I would have tried to get the full colored logo working for some time :/
19:26.06Frogbarfa knoppix cd should be copyable
19:26.48kwwiiFrogbarf: it is probably the bootable part of the image that it is b0rking on
19:27.15kwwiiphysos: no problem
19:27.22Frogbarfthe one i was using was a flight sim scenery cd. It's not bootable
19:27.40Frogbarfi have copied it in the past for my brother.
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19:33.36Frogbarfit worked with the knoppix image :)
19:33.46kwwiiFrogbarf: well, sorry for not having an answer :-(
19:34.38Frogbarfit's the strangest thing i have seen in a long time
19:35.00kwwiiyeah, and pretty annoying I bet
19:35.27Frogbarftesting a differrent cd that i got from my job
19:35.50Frogbarfyou were right that is has something to do with the md5 sum
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19:38.12forevertheuniguys how can I put the kde bar like the windows xp one?not for me..is just to see if my mom can work in linux if she don't know that's linux she's working in!
19:38.27forevertheuniI've used the luna theme...but is just for windows
19:38.33PhilRodlike win xp in what way?
19:38.34Frogbarfthere is a windows xp like theme
19:38.43Frogbarfkdelook.org
19:38.45pinotreeheya PhilRod
19:38.46forevertheuniPhilRod: the most like
19:38.47pinucsetvery good done forevertheuni!!!!!!!!!!
19:38.51forevertheuniFrogbarf: do you know the name?
19:39.09PhilRodalthough I'd advise against it - how do you explain that it *acts* differently when it *looks* the same?
19:39.15Frogbarfnot sure, of that one. but it shouldn't be too hard to find... let's see here
19:39.16PhilRodhi pinotree :-)
19:39.39pinotree:-)
19:39.45physoskwwii: BTW, http://www.augendusche.org, I try to pretend to know more than shit about photos ;)
19:39.47forevertheuniPhilRod: she only uses.....office
19:39.57Frogbarfhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=27018
19:39.57forevertheuniand openoffice2 is similar to msoffice
19:40.11forevertheuniPhilRod: I just need it once to say...see it's easy
19:40.23Frogbarfi just searched for "XP"
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19:41.20forevertheuniFrogbarf: hmmm
19:41.51DPG__hey
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19:42.02DPG__does current knoppix use KDE 3.4.2 ?
19:42.12forevertheuniknow I need to find how can I set the button
19:42.32Frogbarfi'll be damnd, it's working now
19:42.34PhilRodFAQ
19:43.01pinotree~faq
19:43.02aptfrom memory, faq is frequently asked question... try asking me about "RTFM"
19:43.10pinotree¬.¬
19:43.18pinotree~userguide
19:43.19apthmm... userguide is http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/
19:43.24PhilRod~kde-faq
19:43.26aptsomebody said kde-faq was http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/index.html
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19:43.29PhilRodbut it's in the topic
19:43.30chin1how do i simulate the same actions by lock screen or screen savor start up ?
19:43.44pinotreethanks PhilRod, i didn't know what to tell it then :-)
19:43.51illogic-alHello boys n' girls.
19:44.02PhilRodchin1: don't understand. Please explain further
19:44.09PhilRodheya illogic-al!
19:44.11PhilRodltns, it seems
19:44.20illogic-alyup.
19:44.23forevertheunihow can I change the kde button pic?
19:44.31PhilRod~kmenu
19:44.32aptit has been said that kmenu is at http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2567213
19:44.38illogic-alschool  and work are taking up an INSANE amount of time.
19:44.38PhilRodforevertheuni: ^^^^
19:45.15illogic-alI actually stayed up in the morning a couple night ago to get something done and ended up getting an hour of sleep :-(
19:45.18thiagoforevertheuni: kmenu.png
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19:46.59forevertheuniok tnx
19:47.07chin1PhilRod: what i mean is when you go to kmenu it says lock screen and shut down how do i simulate the lock screen by using a command
19:47.14PhilRoddcop
19:47.15forevertheuni/usr/share/icons
19:47.15forevertheuni:D
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19:47.28PhilRodchin1: run "kdcop" and look there
19:47.38chin1huh ?
19:47.39pinotreechin1: kdesktop_lock
19:47.57thiagochin1: dcop ksmserver
19:48.56forevertheunihow can I know what size i'm using now?
19:50.02chin1i typed kdesktop_lock nothing is happening
19:50.48pinotreechin1: kdesktop_lock --forcelock
19:50.56roberhi pinotree !
19:51.02pinotreehello rober
19:51.49chin1thansk allot man
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19:55.26forevertheuni:( doesn't work goog
19:55.32forevertheunimy taskbar color changes however
19:55.46forevertheunithe application buttons stay in grey how can I change this?
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19:56.57forevertheunisorry..someone replied'
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19:57.50forevertheuni?
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20:13.40pinotreewb PhilRod
20:14.04PhilRodthanks
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20:15.41nargIs there a fairly easy way to run Qt4 libs along side of Qt3 within kde? (qt4 for devel, qt3 for use :p)
20:16.11PhilRodshould be
20:16.17pinotreeit is
20:16.32PhilRodjust carefully set the appropriate variables - QTDIR, um, I guess that's the only one
20:16.49pinotreeand PATH
20:16.59pinotreeQTDIR=/your/qt/directry/
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20:17.26pinotreePATH=$QTDIR/bin/:$PATH
20:17.27nargSo, if you changed QTDIR, you can run them on a program by program basis?
20:17.30pinotreeexport QTDIR PATH
20:18.08pinotreenarg: well i use another user for developing with kde4/qt4
20:18.19nargok, that will be easy enough
20:18.25pinotreeso, i'd reccomend you to do that
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20:18.36nargThanks for the info :)
20:18.48pinotreeotherwise, you have to set some other envvars to make the double run possible on the same account
20:20.04nargheh, using another session will be just fine.
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20:34.42frbis there a kio enabled shell or grep somewhere?
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20:41.32thiagofrb: no
20:42.12benJImanfrb: you can grep withkio
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20:42.51benJImanfrb: I use it all the time
20:44.44benJImanfrb: append http://pastebin.com/360041 to your ~/.bashrc
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20:45.07Grodlyhi. using kde 3.4.0 on sourcemage gnu/linux. I've been using kde for about a week now and have two distinct sets of questions. one set is cosmetic, the other practical. On the cosmetic side: why can't I get translucency working? I built xorg 6.8.2 from source, I added : Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection to xorg.conf and I'm using kwin as the window manager.
20:45.49benJImanGrodly: what graphics card?
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20:46.01Grodlyati rage m3
20:46.05Grodlythe r128 driver
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20:46.45benJImandoes it support composite?
20:47.05Grodlyum. I thought it did. I'll google it
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20:52.56DPG__hey
20:53.48illogic-alI remember how to use svn again.
20:53.51illogic-alwoo.
20:53.53illogic-alhoo.
20:54.10DPG__riht
20:54.14DPG__right
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20:54.59DPG__illogic-al what version of kde comes with the latest knoppix?
20:55.13illogic-alDPG__: no ideer
20:55.34DPG__what livecd has the latest?
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20:55.50illogic-alDPG__: no ideer
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21:00.05frbis it possible to make the cursor follow the viewport in kate?
21:00.26frbI hate scrolling with the scrollbar, then if I accidentally hiy a key, it jumps back to where I was, instead of where I am
21:00.39benJImanfrb: did that grep thing do what you wanted?
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21:01.10frbbenJIman: haven't tried yet
21:01.17frbI need to convert it to zsh as well
21:01.29benJImanfrb: it'll only work from inside X unfortunately but it's still very useful
21:01.31Tm_Tjumpy sporty markey
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21:02.08frbbenJIman: I'm _always_ in X
21:02.09Tm_Tsome things never change :)
21:02.18markeyaye
21:02.18frbconsole only exists to fix X
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21:02.44Grodlyok, I just checked if my card supports composite and as far as I can tell it does. but I still can't get translucency working
21:02.55frbGrodly: is it a newer nvidia?
21:03.01Grodlyno, an older ati
21:03.06frbyou don't want to try
21:03.17frbolder atis are hella slow when composite is enabled
21:03.29frbradeon mobility 7500 here and it was unberable
21:03.40Grodlynuts
21:03.45Grodlymine is even older
21:03.56Grodlyrage 128 M3
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21:04.14frbnot even close
21:04.17frbmine is an M7
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21:06.26nmehow to activate ssh-agent using kdm? (kde 3.4, gentoo)
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21:07.18Grodlythe issue I'm fighting with, aside from translucency, is that kde has everything I want but is big and considering the effort involved in building linux for a newbie like me and then building X and everything else, the reward for all that effort is a desktop that is trying to look like windows. If I can't at least have alpha blending I might as well use fluxbox
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21:08.32Grodlynote also this is a 4yrold laptop with 320mb of pc100 ram, 850mhz p3, 1024x768 display, crap speakers and a measly 10gb hdd
21:08.52physosfrb: Not AFAIK. Only PgUp and PgDown are honoured.
21:09.06benJImanGrodly: kde is more than eyecandy
21:09.15physosfrb: uhm sorry, forgot to scroll down.
21:09.20illogic-alGrodly: i highly doubt that your rage128 supports composite
21:09.21physostime for some sleep.
21:09.24physoscu all
21:09.44benJImanGrodly: if your card did support composite you could use it with fluxbox anyway
21:10.01GrodlyI know, but I don't use half the things it contains. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing on KDE, I think it is a phenomenal project and easily superior to windows and even macOS
21:10.38benJImanGrodly: if you're building it yourself you don't have to build everything, if you're using a distro that builds it for you why complain?
21:11.30Grodlyfrustration, mostly
21:12.14Grodlysorry
21:12.18benJImanif you don't want to have to worry about it use an easier to use distro
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21:16.48illogic-alyou made him cry
21:16.52illogic-ali thiiiiin
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21:28.41mtuam i reading the changelog right, that all the lilo support has been ripped out of 3.4's kdm?
21:31.11_elijahlofgrenmtu: I'm running 3.4.1 and In the control panel under Login Manager on the Shutdown tab it has a LILO section that has "Show boot options". So it seems like it still has lilo support.
21:32.49mtuthat's simply gone here, in 3.4.2 :(
21:33.06illogic-almtu: posiibly
21:33.10mtuand a diff file i found on a mailing list looks like that code was just ripped out
21:33.55illogic-almtu: but you can still restart, shutdown, from KDM
21:34.12illogic-ali think support for configuring lilo itself was removed.
21:34.37mtuillogic-al: yeah, i can, but what's missing is the ability to choose the OS to boot next
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21:35.18benJImanmtu: works with grub here
21:36.20rutski89use /join #debian
21:36.48mtubenJIman: meh. i dislike grub.
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21:39.16nerochiaroanyone using kdevelop that can tell me if there's a way to copy the text messages that appear in the "application" panel ?
21:40.30benJImannerochiaro: select -> right click selection -> copy
21:40.44_elijahlofgrennerochiaro: Could you just select them and then paste them using the mouse wheel?
21:41.49nerochiarobenJIman: right click gives me "Do not filter output" and "Filter output", nothing more
21:41.56benJIman_elijahlofgren: doesn't work
21:42.07benJImannerochiaro: if you right click the selection it has option to copy
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21:42.48nerochiarobenJIman: i suppose that with "selection" you mean the line that is selected ? or is there a way to select part of a line ?
21:42.56benJImanoh hangon, i'm confusing with the build window, sorry
21:43.08nerochiarobenJIman: heh, no problem
21:43.57nerochiaroit's annoying, because i need that text to file a bug, but it's a lot of lines and i'm not going to copy them all
21:44.08nerochiaroby hand
21:45.04nerochiarobtw, anyone who is using kdevelop with ruby and is able to actually set breakpoints and debug ?
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21:51.12illogic-alnerochiaro: if only i knew ruby that well :-)
21:51.35slicslakis there an option to hide all the stuff on my desktop?
21:51.47illogic-alI've never used a debugger for a scripting language either so I don't really know what that's all aboot.
21:52.09illogic-alslicslak: yah. click the icon next to the big K button
21:52.33illogic-alslicslak: if you want stuff permanently removed from your desktop, then just delete them :-)
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21:53.10nerochiaroillogic-al: well, stepping through the code and watching variables in a debugger is always handy, with both scripting or non-scripting languages.
21:53.12slicslakillogic-al, i've customized this a bit, which icon is it i'm supposed to click on?
21:53.51illogic-alslicslak: if you hold your mouse over the icon the popup will say Show desktop
21:54.29illogic-also it'll remove all windows and show just your desktop.
21:54.32slicslakoh i see what your saying, that hides the windows, i actually ment the icons
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21:55.00illogic-alslicslak: nein. no option for that. you just have to do it manually.
21:55.13illogic-alno option I know of at least
21:55.19slicslakok tahnks
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22:01.55slicslakwhat's the shortcut to resize any window whereever you are in it?
22:02.14_aurelienAlt+right click
22:03.03PhilRodalong with Alt+Left click to move and Alt+Middle click to Raise/Lower
22:03.14PhilRodall customizable in control center, of course
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22:14.22Oleg_hi
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22:23.04XorlevQuestion: On some sites, I've been seeing quote boxes and such with text that doesn't show up. I can select it, but its not there unless I copy and paste it into something else. Example: Subnet Matrix Table on http://linuxreviews.org/features/ipv6/. It shows up in lynx, but not Konqueror or FireFox. Any ideas?
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22:31.38thiagoXorlev: works fine here
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22:41.16forevertheuniguys can u take a look in http://nebioq.ath.cx/buh.jpg
22:41.31forevertheuniwhy my apps button is not transparent like the rest of the bar?
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22:42.32strawforevertheuni: that'll happen in kde 3.5
22:43.18forevertheunitest      kde-core  kdebase  3.4.2             3.4.2
22:43.20strawforevertheuni: for now, the takbar doesn't do transparency
22:43.23forevertheunithat's my version
22:43.25forevertheuniah ok
22:44.27DPG__sup fags
22:44.38illogic-alchillin.
22:44.45illogic-alyou?
22:45.28kwwiinight all
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22:45.40DPG__chillin illogic
22:45.47DPG__jus smoked a tight blunt
22:45.58_chavoforevertheuni: there's a plugin called taskbar 2 that does transparency
22:46.02DPG__i am highh
22:46.06_chavolook on kde-apps.org
22:46.23forevertheuni_chavo: hmm ok
22:46.23forevertheunitnx
22:46.24DPG___chavo transperancy like in Alinux
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22:48.35frbtaskbar2 is neat
22:48.48frbI just wish it allowed multiple instances
22:51.06StevenRwhy oh why is the text edit box in konqueror so absolutely awful?
22:51.27benJImanwhat text edit box?
22:51.39comexHow can I install bitmap fonts into KDE?
22:51.57StevenRbenJIman: like the "send message to seller" field on ebay for eg
22:51.58benJImanfonts:/
22:52.14benJImanStevenR: what's wrong with it?
22:52.28forevertheuni_chavo: how do I load after instalatio?
22:52.29benJImanStevenR: in konqueror it provides spell checking, not seen another browser do that
22:52.54_chavoforevertheuni: just right click kicker and add applet
22:52.59StevenRbenJIman: the whole app freezes when I highlight stuff (this is not ebay specific), it is very slow to enter text as I type (and I'm not the fastest typist)
22:53.01_chavoand remove the original one
22:53.02forevertheuni_chavo: ok
22:53.18comexMany of the files in /etc were deleted, and now Terminus is missing from both Konsole and KDE.
22:53.30benJImanStevenR: well it doesn't do that here, something wrong with your setup I would imagine
22:53.39_chavoStevenR: you have some problem then, because it works perfectly here
22:54.05_aurelienStevenR: that might be the spell checker. Try to disable it.
22:54.05_chavoStevenR: what version of KDE is it?
22:54.08frbthe only editor I've found freeze is quanta
22:54.21StevenRKDE 3.4.2
22:54.24StevenRslackware -current
22:54.41StevenRnot specific to 3.4.2, seem it in earlier vers
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22:55.54StevenR_aurelien: it most likely is the spell checker
22:56.22_chavoI have spell checker enabled also
22:56.27kkrizkahey, is there something like xvidcap for kde?
22:57.04StevenR_chavo: how do I disable it?
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22:57.23AP03does anyone know how i can get my control+f4 back to close tabs in firefox?
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22:57.49_chavoStevenR: not sure
22:58.05StevenRok
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23:19.23Oleg_where is the info on the kde page for kde 3.5 beta?
23:20.08Oleg_beta 3.5 was released, right?
23:21.13pinotreeOleg_: not yet, in a pair of day will be
23:21.18pinotreedays*
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23:26.10ironfroggywhy do windows resize themselves when i shade them?
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23:28.25benJImanironfroggy: I think it was a bug, seems to be fixed in 3.5 branch, always happened to me
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23:29.12ironfroggyi dont remember it happening before.
23:29.25ironfroggyive always used my kopete chat windows shaded
23:29.27benJImanironfroggy: it would always happen with certain apps for me, kopete for instance
23:29.33_chavoIt's happening for me in 3.4.2, but not 3.5
23:29.36StevenRcanllaith: ping
23:29.40benJIman_chavo: same
23:29.54_chavoI'm in a kubuntu breezy install right now and it's doing it
23:30.03ironfroggywell i havent upgraded since 3.4.1, and ive only recently noticed this
23:30.13Oleg_alpha 3.5 was released?
23:30.19benJImanOleg_: a month or so ago
23:30.25benJImananyone managed to build 3.5 branch with gcc 3.3.5 in the last week or so?
23:31.01_chavono still using 3.3.4 here
23:31.12Oleg_gcc (GCC) 3.4.2 is ok for compiling 3.5?
23:31.56_chavosorry that's 3.4.5
23:32.03_chavoOleg_: yes
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23:44.56Firetechwhy doesn't konqueror suggest an application to open files (links) with any more? It did some days ago, but it suddenly has stopped, and just gives me an "open" button with whch I have to choose the application myself... the associations thingie in the configuration is correct...
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23:53.48robbie__I set up the konqueror file browser to open .html and .php files with kate. Now when I use konqueror for internet browsing and I click a link, it tries to open the link with kate.
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23:58.22CRXLNXdoes anyone know how to set kvirc to highlight my nick when others use it(ksirc would but I like kvirc better)
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