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| 00:00.59 | pfb2 | Hello... |
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| 00:01.54 | pfb2 | I see my modem flash when I send so I think something is going out. Does anyone hear me? |
| 00:03.09 | pfb2 | The silence is deafening... Thanks for the help. |
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| 00:07.15 | grepper | wow, 2 minutes and 12 seconds and no one answered him - no wonder he was sarcastic |
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| 00:11.18 | illogic-al | narf |
| 00:11.19 | Tm_T | =) |
| 00:11.55 | illogic-al | i killed my machine and am back in windows again :-( |
| 00:12.17 | Tm_T | \o/ |
| 00:12.25 | illogic-al | ? |
| 00:12.28 | Tm_T | humm, how you killed it exactly? |
| 00:12.37 | Alethes | he installed windows |
| 00:12.37 | Alethes | :D |
| 00:12.47 | Tm_T | :o |
| 00:13.04 | illogic-al | tried to install new OS. wiped the main partition in the process |
| 00:13.22 | Tm_T | hehe |
| 00:13.35 | illogic-al | this is on my other machine. the good one. the one without windows. |
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| 00:13.53 | illogic-al | so it's currently osless |
| 00:14.13 | illogic-al | well, i supoose mdv 2006 beta 3 is partially on there. |
| 00:14.14 | Tm_T | heh |
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| 00:14.51 | kaeptnb | hello. my "Lock Screen" doesnt work anymore. neither by button nor by dcop -call. does that sound familiar to anyone? |
| 00:16.33 | illogic-al | kaeptnb: that does not. |
| 00:16.46 | illogic-al | kaeptnb: what might you have done to cause this? |
| 00:16.49 | kaeptnb | hehe. i can offer strace output, if intersted :) |
| 00:17.06 | kaeptnb | hm. perhaps its my wild mixing of kde from debian stable/testing/unstable :) |
| 00:17.18 | illogic-al | per'aps |
| 00:17.45 | illogic-al | kaeptnb: i think you'll need to make sure you have the correct version of kde{base,libs} installed |
| 00:17.54 | illogic-al | they should both be the same. |
| 00:18.04 | kaeptnb | strange thing is: everything works like a charm. except locking the screen, which is very important on my laptop |
| 00:18.07 | kaeptnb | mom. i'll check |
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| 00:18.45 | kaeptnb | kbnx:~# dpkg -l | grep kdebase |
| 00:18.49 | kaeptnb | ii kdebase-bin 3.4.1-1.xcyb core binaries for the KDE base module |
| 00:18.53 | kaeptnb | ii kdebase-data 3.4.2-1 shared data files for the KDE base module |
| 00:18.57 | kaeptnb | ii kdebase-kio-plugins 3.4.1-1.xcyb core I/O slaves for KDE |
| 00:19.01 | kaeptnb | kbnx:~# dpkg -l | grep kdelibs |
| 00:19.05 | kaeptnb | ii kdelibs 3.4.1-1 core libraries from the official KDE release |
| 00:19.05 | kaeptnb | ii kdelibs-bin 3.4.1-1 core binaries for all KDE applications |
| 00:19.06 | kaeptnb | ii kdelibs-data 3.4.2-1 core shared data for all KDE applications |
| 00:19.06 | kaeptnb | ii kdelibs4 3.4.1-1 core libraries for all KDE applications |
| 00:19.09 | kaeptnb | sorry :) |
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| 00:19.27 | kaeptnb | hm. ok... lets see if i can correct that |
| 00:20.01 | annma | hey |
| 00:20.08 | annma | what is all that pasting? |
| 00:20.14 | kaeptnb | sorry |
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| 00:20.19 | annma | don't do that agian, use a pastebin please |
| 00:20.26 | kaeptnb | ok |
| 00:20.30 | kaeptnb | pastebin? |
| 00:20.32 | Raag | How can I disable the blinking in konsole? |
| 00:21.04 | Dhraakellian | kde.pastebin.com? |
| 00:21.22 | elijahlofgren | Raag: Go to settings and uncheck "Blinking cursor" |
| 00:21.30 | annma | google pastebin |
| 00:21.32 | kaeptnb | hmpf. dist-upgrade would install 3.4.2 of most of these packages. problem is it deinstalles some other important ones... |
| 00:21.32 | Raag | elijahlofgren: I mean the blinking of complete lines of textr |
| 00:21.36 | Raag | elijahlofgren: text, rather |
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| 00:21.46 | kaeptnb | Raag: you mean the visual bell ?! |
| 00:21.56 | Raag | kaeptnb: no, I mean the blinking of complete lines of text. |
| 00:22.01 | Dhraakellian | annma, for a moment, I thought you were talking about google having a pastebin |
| 00:22.17 | annma | ;) it has a lot but not that |
| 00:22.18 | elijahlofgren | Raag: What app makes blinking lines of text? |
| 00:22.25 | Raag | elijahlofgren: irssi, for example |
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| 00:29.14 | kaeptnb | cool thing that pastebin.... i guess by my pasting i qualified for the noob-of-the-day award :) |
| 00:31.31 | annma | kaeptnb: lol |
| 00:31.43 | annma | at least you can laugh about it |
| 00:31.54 | annma | which makes you forgiven |
| 00:32.08 | kaeptnb | which was my goal |
| 00:32.09 | kaeptnb | :) |
| 00:32.11 | illogic-al | hi annma |
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| 00:32.14 | annma | hi illogic-al |
| 00:33.13 | illogic-al | are you doing home work too? :-) |
| 00:33.27 | annma | me? |
| 00:33.33 | annma | mum work |
| 00:33.38 | annma | have to put Leah to bed |
| 00:33.55 | Tm_T | uh |
| 00:34.02 | Tm_T | I hate my life |
| 00:34.02 | illogic-al | mum work. lol |
| 00:34.14 | canllaith | mum work is full time work! :P |
| 00:34.14 | annma | she says np |
| 00:34.15 | Tm_T | being prisoner and all |
| 00:34.15 | annma | no |
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| 00:34.29 | illogic-al | jesus loves j00. |
| 00:34.42 | annma | away putting Leah to bed |
| 00:34.53 | Tm_T | illogic-al: and I hate you |
| 00:34.56 | Tm_T | ];= |
| 00:35.03 | illogic-al | :_( |
| 00:35.09 | Tm_T | :/ |
| 00:35.12 | kaeptnb | lol |
| 00:35.15 | canllaith | No-one hates illogic-al :o |
| 00:35.16 | Tm_T | :'( |
| 00:35.19 | canllaith | it would be like hating a kitten |
| 00:35.35 | illogic-al | i'm not _that_ mean :-p |
| 00:35.35 | Tm_T | sounds like me allright |
| 00:35.57 | Tm_T | I hate me |
| 00:36.07 | Tm_T | me too |
| 00:36.21 | Alethes | what a flick |
| 00:36.21 | Alethes | heh |
| 00:36.30 | Alethes | btw, illogic-al, I hate you |
| 00:36.32 | Alethes | :D |
| 00:36.38 | illogic-al | oh joy. |
| 00:36.40 | benJIman | there was a censored version? |
| 00:36.48 | illogic-al | hahah |
| 00:36.50 | Alethes | benJIman: good point hehe |
| 00:36.52 | Tm_T | Alethes: stfu |
| 00:36.54 | Tm_T | illogic-al <3 |
| 00:37.03 | Alethes | haha |
| 00:38.01 | kaeptnb | jihadjihad dirkaladirk :) cu guys. i'll restart my kde and see if locking my screen works again. |
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| 00:48.04 | aynjell | What's up with kde-look? |
| 00:48.15 | canllaith | I guess the website is down |
| 00:48.22 | illogic-al | done! |
| 00:48.47 | illogic-al | all i have to do now is a couple dozen BLAST searches and design oligoes. |
| 00:48.49 | illogic-al | joy! |
| 00:49.24 | canllaith | oooooooooh |
| 00:49.29 | canllaith | it's a 3 day weekend in the states???? |
| 00:49.36 | illogic-al | yup. |
| 00:49.43 | illogic-al | Labor or some crap. |
| 00:49.45 | canllaith | What day do you go back to school/work and what day is it today? :D |
| 00:49.48 | illogic-al | *labor day. |
| 00:50.08 | illogic-al | get back to school/work on tuesday and it's sunday right now :-) |
| 00:50.53 | canllaith | Sweeeeeeeeeeeet! I have an extra day. |
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| 00:51.08 | illogic-al | after consulting with the (all wise) calendar i have confirmed that it is, in fact, Labor day. |
| 00:51.12 | illogic-al | canllaith: lol |
| 00:51.19 | illogic-al | how's that work? |
| 00:51.24 | annma | anyone tried to make a bug report through the web interface? |
| 00:51.29 | illogic-al | lol |
| 00:51.32 | illogic-al | nice. |
| 00:51.36 | canllaith | well cause I guess he's on a long weekend too |
| 00:51.44 | illogic-al | annma: not lately but i'll check now. |
| 00:51.47 | canllaith | so that gives me an extra day before he's gonna check his email :) |
| 00:51.49 | illogic-al | aye. |
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| 00:52.03 | annma | tomorrow is Labour Da, yup |
| 00:52.06 | annma | Day |
| 00:52.10 | annma | in Canada |
| 00:52.33 | annma | silly continent, elsewhere it's the 1st May |
| 00:52.40 | Tm_T | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:52.59 | illogic-al | heheh |
| 00:54.20 | illogic-al | annma: i'm logged in but i haven't tried to submit a bug |
| 00:54.34 | annma | it get stuck after General information |
| 00:54.50 | annma | and then I get a 500 Internal Server error |
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| 00:55.51 | illogic-al | i just made a comment in a bug and marked it as fixed. |
| 00:56.13 | annma | but that's not the same |
| 00:56.21 | annma | I can do that too |
| 00:56.43 | annma | it's the whole bug submission via the nterface that gets stuck |
| 00:56.53 | illogic-al | ah. actually submitting new bug. |
| 00:57.13 | illogic-al | i can't test. no kde, and of course KDE doesn't have bugs anyway :-) |
| 00:57.20 | annma | if you can get through I kill you |
| 00:57.22 | illogic-al | Live the lie! |
| 00:57.25 | illogic-al | lol |
| 00:57.25 | annma | lol |
| 00:57.44 | Tm_T | =) |
| 00:57.47 | annma | I can tell you what bug I wanted to submit |
| 00:58.00 | annma | in kanagram: there's no Report Bug menu item! |
| 00:58.04 | annma | that's thebug |
| 00:58.18 | illogic-al | lol. |
| 00:58.41 | Tm_T | http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/050815_145649.jpg |
| 00:58.48 | illogic-al | the menu entry showed up but it was greyed out. |
| 00:58.49 | Tm_T | nice prison cell of mine |
| 00:59.11 | illogic-al | Tm_T: indeed. very nice! |
| 00:59.31 | Tm_T | illogic-al: bit small, don't you think? |
| 00:59.49 | Tm_T | and her I am, sitting and working, living and dying... |
| 00:59.53 | Tm_T | ;) |
| 01:00.04 | illogic-al | Tm_T: you should see my rooom. |
| 01:00.07 | canllaith | as are we all. |
| 01:00.19 | Tm_T | heh |
| 01:00.20 | annma | Tm_T: that's not bad! |
| 01:00.30 | Tm_T | annma: but damn small |
| 01:00.31 | annma | in England my son had a smaller room |
| 01:00.39 | illogic-al | and I ain't complainin', at least i _have_ somewhere to stay. |
| 01:00.40 | Oleg_ | 9:00 p.m. |
| 01:00.43 | annma | here it's damn too big |
| 01:00.45 | canllaith | Tm_T: heh my room is smaller :( |
| 01:00.57 | Tm_T | annma: well, I shared a room like this one with my 2 brothers |
| 01:00.59 | annma | my walk in is bigger |
| 01:01.01 | canllaith | Tm_T: although less furniture :) |
| 01:01.09 | annma | Tm_T: yeah, well, me too |
| 01:01.26 | annma | I had no computer though, just guitars and LPs |
| 01:01.30 | Alethes | you guys are making feel fairly wealthy heh |
| 01:01.33 | Tm_T | canllaith: btw that picwas taken before I got all my stuff here, now I can't see floor =) |
| 01:01.51 | Tm_T | annma: same here when I was kid |
| 01:02.01 | illogic-al | annma: cvs version? |
| 01:02.10 | Tm_T | well, no LP:s or guitars, too expensive back then |
| 01:02.12 | annma | my sis had a hard time being in the same room than me |
| 01:02.24 | Tm_T | haha |
| 01:02.26 | annma | illogic-al: pardon? cvs? |
| 01:02.28 | Tm_T | I know the feeling |
| 01:02.38 | illogic-al | annma: of kanagram. |
| 01:02.43 | annma | 0.1 |
| 01:02.52 | annma | it just came in kdeedu |
| 01:03.12 | Tm_T | annma: one good point in this apartment: free living free food(mostly) |
| 01:03.26 | annma | :) |
| 01:03.43 | annma | when you clean a house, you want it small, believe me |
| 01:04.07 | Alethes | heh, ain't that the truth |
| 01:04.17 | annma | superb album |
| 01:04.27 | annma | the oldies can still do it |
| 01:04.30 | Alethes | vacuuming this house compared to my one bedroom apt when I was single sucks |
| 01:04.30 | Alethes | heh |
| 01:04.35 | Tm_T | annma: trust me, I know what cleaning is ;) |
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| 01:05.29 | Alethes | haha |
| 01:05.32 | Tm_T | \o/ |
| 01:05.33 | Alethes | my wife trained me well |
| 01:05.37 | canllaith | both of them? :o |
| 01:05.38 | canllaith | not leaving one for me? |
| 01:05.45 | Tm_T | I don't have a wife :/ |
| 01:05.47 | annma | ;) |
| 01:05.53 | Tm_T | yet ;) |
| 01:05.57 | annma | ;) |
| 01:06.00 | Alethes | I actually had to be Mr. Mom for quite a while when I wasn't legal to work in Canada |
| 01:06.02 | Tm_T | wonk |
| 01:06.06 | canllaith | I don't have a wife either! We have lots in common. |
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| 01:06.16 | annma | me neither has no wife |
| 01:06.22 | Tm_T | canllaith: =) |
| 01:06.25 | benJIman | lol |
| 01:06.27 | annma | Alethes: ah, I am still illegal |
| 01:06.32 | Alethes | I'm legal now |
| 01:06.34 | Tm_T | well, I'm male, there's difference |
| 01:06.37 | Alethes | I wasn't when I first moved up |
| 01:06.38 | annma | ;) |
| 01:06.39 | canllaith | annma: bruce recently learned how to clean a bathroom, perhaps he'll make me a nice wife ;) |
| 01:06.41 | Alethes | I'm a permanent resident now |
| 01:06.50 | Tm_T | or am I? |
| 01:06.57 | annma | Alethes: we got accepted by Quebec, now Canada paperworl |
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| 01:07.00 | annma | l/k |
| 01:07.04 | canllaith | Heya StevenR-lappy |
| 01:07.14 | Alethes | annma: getting accepted by QC is actually a lot harder than elsewhere in Canada |
| 01:07.16 | Alethes | I'm in Ontario |
| 01:07.23 | StevenR-lappy | hiya canllaith |
| 01:07.27 | annma | cool |
| 01:07.29 | canllaith | Perhaps not so hard if you are french? |
| 01:07.34 | annma | ah ah |
| 01:07.37 | annma | wrong! |
| 01:07.38 | Alethes | went ot QC for the first time a couple of weeks ago though :) |
| 01:07.47 | annma | we are French but we lived in England, canllaith |
| 01:07.52 | Alethes | just drove 45 mins east :) |
| 01:07.55 | annma | that akes us -10 points |
| 01:08.01 | annma | makes |
| 01:08.09 | annma | Alethes: Toronto? |
| 01:08.14 | Alethes | no, North Bay |
| 01:08.37 | Alethes | 3 1/2 hours north of Toronto |
| 01:08.47 | Tm_T | ok, no sleep tonight... |
| 01:08.55 | Tm_T | jolly good indeed |
| 01:09.15 | annma | quite far, I am near montreal |
| 01:09.26 | Alethes | cool |
| 01:09.36 | Alethes | we just went over to Temaskiming |
| 01:09.47 | Alethes | just for a sunday drive |
| 01:09.59 | annma | lovely day today |
| 01:10.04 | Alethes | indeed |
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| 01:10.08 | annma | mapple trees start to redden |
| 01:10.11 | Alethes | this is my favorite time of the year here |
| 01:10.15 | annma | yes |
| 01:10.21 | Ogmios | how can i adjust the brightness in 3.4? |
| 01:10.33 | Ogmios | i am using dvi so i cant do it on the monitor. |
| 01:10.35 | Alethes | see that brightness button on your monitor? |
| 01:10.40 | Alethes | oh, nm :P |
| 01:10.45 | annma | illogic-al: do get through in kanagram? |
| 01:10.48 | Ogmios | beat ya to it :P |
| 01:10.53 | Alethes | I was gonna say, that button is fully supported under 3.4.x :) |
| 01:10.59 | Ogmios | hah |
| 01:11.14 | canllaith | huh? |
| 01:11.20 | canllaith | I can adjust my brightness using a monitor button with dvi |
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| 01:11.37 | Ogmios | no you cant |
| 01:11.41 | canllaith | Perhaps there is another reason you can't but the mere fact you're using a dvi connection is not it. |
| 01:11.44 | canllaith | Yes, yes I can. |
| 01:11.44 | Ogmios | you have to do it at the source |
| 01:11.53 | canllaith | I can make a vide of me doing it if you like :D |
| 01:11.57 | Alethes | haha |
| 01:11.59 | Ogmios | trust me.. |
| 01:12.04 | Ogmios | you cant |
| 01:12.06 | canllaith | I do it all the time, trust me ;) |
| 01:12.13 | straw | Ogmios: there's xgamma, not sure if there's a kde util |
| 01:12.18 | Alethes | I think we need proof that canllaith can do it -- naked |
| 01:12.24 | Alethes | 'cause I think she can only do it with her clothes on |
| 01:12.27 | canllaith | the b/f likes it at '1' and I like it at '100' for graphics work. We change it every time we each swap at the computer. |
| 01:12.32 | Tm_T | ? |
| 01:12.36 | Ogmios | trust me not only does it say it in the manual of my monitor, the commands are greyed out on my monitors menu in dvi |
| 01:12.41 | canllaith | Alethes: shuddup you. Are you still on those make-alethes-horny drugs dude? :P |
| 01:12.46 | Alethes | haha |
| 01:12.51 | canllaith | Ogmios: maybe *your* monitor, but not all dvi monitors. |
| 01:13.18 | Tm_T | ok, I'm too f*ing tired and confused and all, awway -> |
| 01:13.23 | Ogmios | bottom line, i could care less about your monitor, again. where is the brightness control in kde. |
| 01:13.27 | Ogmios | 3.4 that is. |
| 01:13.41 | annma | Tm_T: you should get some sleep |
| 01:13.52 | annma | what time is it for you? |
| 01:13.55 | canllaith | Unless there is something under Kcontrol -> Peripherals -> Monitor I'd say there isn't one. |
| 01:13.58 | Ogmios | thanks straw |
| 01:13.59 | annma | 03;13 in Paris |
| 01:14.15 | canllaith | and don't talk completely innacurate rubbish if you don't want to be challenged on it ;) |
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| 01:14.41 | straw | ok. i was just thinking Kcontrol -> Peripherals -> Display should cover gamma |
| 01:14.50 | Ogmios | it is not innacurate. in my situation it is the truth, do not assume your reality is the same for all. |
| 01:15.13 | canllaith | It's the truth your monitor does it. Don't tell people 'all' dvi monitors do this when it's blatantly not true. |
| 01:15.36 | canllaith | straw: iirc there used to be something there but I don't think I've seen it lately. Are you using kde-redhat 3.4 or 3.5 svn ? |
| 01:15.47 | Ogmios | no more of a falicy than your statements |
| 01:15.54 | straw | oh the drama. what's with the petty bullsh*t all the time |
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| 01:17.13 | Tm_T | annma: I tried to get some sleep, now it's 04:18 and I supposd to be up a ix |
| 01:17.21 | Ogmios | xgamma works ill just put my settings in startup thanks straw. |
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| 01:17.33 | Tm_T | one of these days |
| 01:17.35 | Tm_T | :) |
| 01:18.05 | annma | no gamma anymore |
| 01:18.08 | annma | in kcontrol |
| 01:18.15 | Alethes | annma: no? why not? |
| 01:18.18 | mobtek | Kcontrol -> Peripherals -> Display does for me on 3.4.2 |
| 01:18.21 | canllaith | annma: There used to be one once? |
| 01:18.29 | benJIman | hmm yeah it's dissappeared here too |
| 01:18.34 | annma | yes, I remember it was in |
| 01:18.35 | canllaith | I have a memory that there used to be a control for it |
| 01:18.36 | Alethes | yeah, it's under display stuff in 3.3.2 |
| 01:18.44 | canllaith | Alethes: you STILL haven't upgraded? |
| 01:18.58 | benJIman | you can adjust it with nvidia-settings if you have a nvidia card |
| 01:18.58 | Alethes | :D |
| 01:19.11 | Alethes | no, I'm getting close to finished with the big project though :) |
| 01:19.15 | canllaith | Alethes: waiting for 3.5 ? |
| 01:19.20 | Alethes | I'm waiting for 3.5 now heh |
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| 01:19.30 | annma | something is straining my system |
| 01:19.31 | Alethes | possibly even 3.5.1 hehe |
| 01:19.33 | xomp | canllaith, \o/ |
| 01:19.57 | canllaith | omg xomp long time no see :o |
| 01:20.03 | Alethes | when you're on dialup, it's difficult to upgrade frequently :/ |
| 01:20.04 | xomp | canllaith, got custody of my kids yesterday :D |
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| 01:20.10 | xomp | how have you been dear? :) |
| 01:20.16 | canllaith | xomp: OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:20.19 | canllaith | that's so amazingly cool |
| 01:20.25 | xomp | yep, I'm super excited hehe |
| 01:20.27 | annma | how many? |
| 01:20.31 | StevenR-lappy | i want cake or something similar :( |
| 01:20.38 | xomp | 3 annma heh |
| 01:20.46 | annma | 3! man! |
| 01:20.52 | annma | 4 here |
| 01:20.54 | xomp | hah, I have a total of 4 :) |
| 01:20.54 | annma | hehe |
| 01:20.58 | annma | ohh |
| 01:21.01 | xomp | just 3 are with a different mother :p |
| 01:21.04 | canllaith | That's so amazing. I'm really pleased for you xomp. |
| 01:21.14 | xomp | thanks canllaith, I figured you would be :) |
| 01:21.18 | xomp | couldn't wait to tell yah hehe |
| 01:21.32 | canllaith | heh cool :) |
| 01:21.41 | Tm_T | kids?! |
| 01:21.45 | canllaith | Somehow i have over a GB of cygwin :| |
| 01:21.46 | Tm_T | :) |
| 01:21.50 | xomp | back on slackware canllaith hehe |
| 01:21.54 | canllaith | heh cool |
| 01:22.01 | xomp | Tm_T, yuppers :) |
| 01:22.02 | canllaith | on a real machine or is this some xbox scary stuff? ;) |
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| 01:22.11 | xomp | lol a real machine :P |
| 01:22.17 | xomp | a shuttle XPC system to be exact heh |
| 01:22.21 | canllaith | oh sweet |
| 01:22.29 | Tm_T | xomp: I like kids :) |
| 01:22.33 | canllaith | I really want my next motherboard I buy to be small form factor |
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| 01:23.11 | Tm_T | xomp: I spent whole july in summer camp teasing and yelling with youngsters =) |
| 01:23.13 | xomp | yeah, I got this from a woman at work some months ago for $125. Nothing wrong with the system, she was just hard up for some money. |
| 01:23.25 | canllaith | Cool :) What are the specs? |
| 01:23.28 | xomp | Tm_T, haha sounds nice :) I love camp heh |
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| 01:23.44 | Tm_T | it was fun |
| 01:23.46 | xomp | canllaith, P4 1.5Ghz, 256Mb Memory, 30Gb hdd heh |
| 01:23.57 | canllaith | wow that sounds pretty reasonable for $125 |
| 01:24.02 | xomp | it's so super small and all aluminum :) |
| 01:24.06 | canllaith | Sweet :) |
| 01:24.08 | Alethes | xomp: took advantage of somebody needing money :( |
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| 01:24.11 | xomp | has firewire and all that jazz heh |
| 01:24.11 | Alethes | heh heh |
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| 01:25.02 | xomp | Alethes, heh yeah, I couldn't really afford it to begin with and she was asking at first $50 but I installed xp on this system for her months back and checked in on it because I fell in love with it and decided to offer her $125 instead hehe :P |
| 01:25.13 | kaeptnb | thanks for the hint: by making kdelibs/kdebase the same version the locking the screen works again |
| 01:25.16 | Alethes | heh heh |
| 01:25.21 | illogic-al | http://www.webstandards.org/act/acid2/guide.html |
| 01:25.42 | illogic-al | kaeptnb: np |
| 01:25.45 | xomp | she allowed me to make 2 payments on it to pay it off hehe, otherwise I would have missed it :P |
| 01:25.57 | illogic-al | kaeptnb: now stop mixing shite |
| 01:26.06 | Tm_T | hum, maybe I try to get even a some sleep -> |
| 01:26.07 | kaeptnb | :) |
| 01:26.18 | kaeptnb | with debian its hard sometimes... |
| 01:26.48 | kaeptnb | i dont want unstable as "unstable" , but the cool new packages in it sometimes :) |
| 01:27.03 | xomp | kaeptnb, don't feel bad, I done broke kde when I ran konq for the first time heheh |
| 01:27.06 | canllaith | xomp: You should take some pics for me of it, it sounds like a really sweet box :) |
| 01:27.16 | canllaith | heh xomp here has an amazing talent for breaking things |
| 01:27.21 | xomp | canllaith, yup, lemme see if I can find some. |
| 01:27.25 | xomp | lol yup \o |
| 01:27.59 | canllaith | ;) |
| 01:28.14 | xomp | canllaith, http://www.hardware.fr/medias/photos_news/00/05/IMG0005161.jpg |
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| 01:28.21 | xomp | that's the exact same one I have heh |
| 01:28.28 | aynjell | How do I tell knoqeoror to open at a certain size? |
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| 01:28.42 | xomp | and here be it's specs n such -> http://www.hardware.fr/articles/436-1/shuttle-xpc-ss51g.html |
| 01:28.56 | xomp | oh, site is in french btw lol |
| 01:28.58 | Clamps | kde-look is down or it just hates me? :) |
| 01:29.03 | illogic-al | Clamps: down |
| 01:29.06 | aynjell | Clamps, down. |
| 01:29.08 | aynjell | Well, teh site is. |
| 01:29.13 | aynjell | You can access files on he site. |
| 01:29.13 | xomp | heh nope illogic-al , mearly linux learning/breaking :) *mostly breaking* hehe |
| 01:29.21 | illogic-al | heh |
| 01:29.24 | aynjell | Find a direct link to a imange of some kind and it'll work. |
| 01:29.47 | Clamps | Damn >< |
| 01:30.00 | canllaith | xomp: I really want one of those. Next motherboard I buy |
| 01:30.02 | aynjell | http://www.superkaramba.com/redirect.php?id=8&type=screenshots_cnt&url=http%3A%2F%2Fkdelook.org%2Fcontent%2Fpre1%2F7876-1.png |
| 01:30.05 | aynjell | that look works. |
| 01:30.10 | canllaith | which will be a while, since my current one will take up to 3.6GHz p4 |
| 01:30.14 | aynjell | Oops, wrong link. |
| 01:30.20 | aynjell | http://kdelook.org/content/pre1/7876-1.png |
| 01:30.22 | aynjell | That, works. |
| 01:30.25 | xomp | canllaith, heh yeah, they are fairly nice to have. It's small and fits under my desk heh. |
| 01:30.42 | Clamps | I really need this, http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:eSX9lEBEKQoJ:www.kde-look.org/content/show.php%3Fcontent%3D16564+OS-L-IconSet-Buildkit.tar.bz2&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8 |
| 01:30.44 | xomp | easy to take to those LAN parties that I never go to hah |
| 01:31.14 | canllaith | xomp: yeah I have this really tiny broomcloset of a computer room. I'd like a real small case |
| 01:31.22 | canllaith | a mac mini would be nice but I wanna run linux + kdesvn on it |
| 01:31.30 | canllaith | ... which I could do, maybe I'll get a mac mini anyway and run linux on it |
| 01:31.35 | aynjell | SO it's sorta workin'... |
| 01:31.36 | xomp | heh yeah |
| 01:31.45 | Alethes | such a waste :P |
| 01:32.03 | xomp | aren't they moving the osx to the pc platform? |
| 01:32.14 | aynjell | I won't use those... not wit a P5. |
| 01:32.18 | aynjell | xomp, yes. |
| 01:32.20 | aynjell | P4, rather. |
| 01:32.22 | aynjell | Too hot. |
| 01:32.23 | xomp | thought I saw somewhere the osx86 was coming out sometime heh |
| 01:32.46 | elijahlofgren | aynjell: You could right click on the titlebar of Konqueror. Go to: Advanced -> Special Window Settings -> and then check the "Size" box change the dropdown to "Force" and put the size to what you want. |
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| 01:32.59 | aynjell | Thanks elijahlofgren |
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| 01:33.09 | canllaith | xomp: aye, already has if you're a developer :) |
| 01:33.19 | xomp | lol cool |
| 01:33.32 | canllaith | xomp: http://www.canllaith.org/foo/mactel/ |
| 01:33.40 | elijahlofgren | aynjell: You're welcome. |
| 01:33.44 | xomp | I've only ran os on a mac, it ran fairly well.. hope it doesn't run like poo on a pc :) |
| 01:33.49 | canllaith | The 'about this mac' dialog looks creepy |
| 01:33.53 | canllaith | xomp: runs about the same really it seems |
| 01:34.09 | xomp | haha |
| 01:34.14 | xomp | very nice canllaith :) |
| 01:34.49 | canllaith | man I'm lazy. |
| 01:35.06 | illogic-al | canllaith: we call that effeciency ;-) |
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| 01:37.29 | StevenR-lappy | that's the whole point of sysadminning....max amount of magically working systems with least amount of movement and effort |
| 01:38.25 | canllaith | just realised sitting down here on 1024x768 win2k is probably not as fun as 1280x1024 KDE |
| 01:38.38 | StevenR-lappy | eeewww win2k |
| 01:38.40 | annma | on what???? |
| 01:39.05 | canllaith | lol |
| 01:39.21 | canllaith | annma: kopete testing! Need to use official windows IM clients to test some things. |
| 01:39.29 | canllaith | It is for the greater good that I make this sacrifice. |
| 01:39.41 | annma | ahh, :) |
| 01:40.09 | canllaith | Besides, I get 2 hours 20 battery life in windows and an hour in linux and I'm too lazy to carry my charger upstairs and find a plug for it |
| 01:40.16 | canllaith | so IRC will run on windows today, or at least for 2 hours 20 :) |
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| 01:40.31 | canllaith | Then I will have to be unlazy. |
| 01:40.49 | Latem | anyone have this issue where if a folder has [ or ] in its name, Konqueror can't display it? |
| 01:41.18 | Latem | KDE 3.4.2 installed from kde.org packages, Mandriva LE 2005 |
| 01:41.52 | Alethes | anybody know if kopete is going to incorporate the voice feature that google talk is using? |
| 01:41.59 | canllaith | Alethes: Once they document it sure. |
| 01:42.01 | Alethes | since it's an open standard, right? |
| 01:42.13 | canllaith | Apparently they're changing what it uses for the release version |
| 01:42.19 | Alethes | ah |
| 01:42.22 | Alethes | to something not open? |
| 01:42.25 | canllaith | so there would be not much point just yet |
| 01:42.27 | canllaith | No, to something open |
| 01:42.30 | canllaith | the point is they'll CHANGE it :P |
| 01:42.30 | Alethes | ah ok |
| 01:42.31 | Alethes | gotcha |
| 01:42.34 | Alethes | hehe |
| 01:42.35 | annma | Latem: seems OK here but I have 3.5 pre |
| 01:42.37 | canllaith | so whatever would get implemented would also need to get changed |
| 01:42.38 | Alethes | right |
| 01:42.42 | elijahlofgren | Latem: I have 3.4.1 and creating a folder named sfs[ and going into it works fine. |
| 01:42.42 | Alethes | yep |
| 01:42.44 | annma | I just created a [trial] folder |
| 01:42.44 | Alethes | makes sense |
| 01:42.58 | Latem | 1 second |
| 01:43.02 | chavo | it's not that knoqueror can't display it |
| 01:43.04 | aynjell | Is there any other QT based imaging software besides krita? |
| 01:43.05 | Latem | lemme test a sec |
| 01:43.17 | chavo | it displays the parent folders conrent when you open it |
| 01:43.36 | Latem | yes |
| 01:43.40 | Latem | and only the folders |
| 01:43.44 | annma | pardon? |
| 01:43.49 | Latem | is that expected behaviour? |
| 01:43.54 | annma | what should I do? |
| 01:43.59 | chavo | no, but it seems to be fixed now |
| 01:44.09 | annma | I did not get that <chavo> it displays the parent folders conrent when you open it |
| 01:44.18 | chavo | I'm running 3.5 alpha+ |
| 01:44.19 | annma | I have svn tpday if you tell me what to test |
| 01:44.23 | chavo | I'm sorry content |
| 01:44.35 | annma | oh, not there |
| 01:44.42 | chavo | I have svn from about 2 days ago and it's fixed now |
| 01:44.43 | annma | must have been fixed |
| 01:44.53 | annma | svn a few hours ago |
| 01:45.18 | chavo | Latem, you'll have to wait till 3.5 then |
| 01:45.25 | Latem | so is it a bug? |
| 01:45.25 | chavo | it's fixed now |
| 01:45.28 | chavo | yes |
| 01:45.49 | annma | Latem: it was one, yes |
| 01:45.50 | Latem | ok thanks, I tried bugzilla, but couldn't find anything, but I am not good at creating those queries |
| 01:46.09 | chavo | Yeah me neither, buzilla searching is an art |
| 01:46.13 | annma | illogic-al: I get it you were not able to create the bug report? |
| 01:46.23 | chavo | And so is typing it would seem |
| 01:46.52 | annma | lol |
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| 01:47.07 | Tm_T | :) |
| 01:47.14 | Tm_T | ok, now I can go -> |
| 01:47.36 | Latem | ok found a bug report now: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110050 |
| 01:47.39 | Latem | thanks all |
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| 01:50.08 | emRick | is there a way to list all X11 window ids? |
| 01:50.40 | annma | you mean all KDE windows? |
| 01:50.49 | aynjell | Hrm... |
| 01:50.54 | annma | note that we are in #kde |
| 01:51.06 | Oleg_ | gonna download No More Lonely Nights by Paul McCartney |
| 01:51.10 | emRick | sure, how can I list all KDE windows |
| 01:51.22 | canllaith | dcop probably can do it I imagine |
| 01:51.23 | annma | no more lonely night, no more lonely tears |
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| 01:51.53 | emRick | btw, the "xmacro" (a Debian package) back will capture button clicks and play them back ... and works on KDE |
| 01:52.07 | Oleg_ | yeah! but does it say "tears" in the song? I don't remember |
| 01:52.23 | annma | Oleg_: that might be another band song |
| 01:52.35 | annma | I know several with that title |
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| 01:53.04 | annma | I am quite sure that line exists, Wishbone Ash maybe |
| 01:54.48 | annma | ok, gotta move on |
| 01:54.51 | annma | bye all! |
| 01:55.25 | emRick | I looked at the dcop man page and I looked at kdcop ... doesn't seem to be any way to just list all the window ids |
| 01:55.46 | benJIman | wmctrl -l does that |
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| 01:58.15 | emRick | benJIman: mega thanks ... with xmacro package, looks like I can control my windows from scripts |
| 01:59.26 | emRick | benJIman: this wmctrl seems to be just what I was looking for |
| 02:04.42 | Oleg_ | Title: No More Lonely Nights |
| 02:04.42 | Oleg_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:04.49 | Oleg_ | nanana |
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| 02:12.20 | odat | hello everyone |
| 02:12.27 | odat | i was hoping someone could help |
| 02:13.49 | odat | anyone know how i can put the computer icon and home folder and trashcan back on my dekstop? |
| 02:14.53 | elijahlofgren | odat: You could just recreate them manually. |
| 02:15.29 | elijahlofgren | odat: Right click on the desktop. Choose "Create New -> Link to Location (URL)" |
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| 02:16.16 | odat | k cuz i'm using a distro that put everything in the taskbar and i hate that |
| 02:18.16 | grepper | odat: you should be able to drag from menu and taskbar onto desktop as well |
| 02:20.48 | odat | i don't think i can if they are panel applets |
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| 02:23.51 | _elijahlofgren | odat: Did you get your problem solved (Sorry, I lost my Internet connection so I don't know.) |
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| 02:27.12 | odat | sort of |
| 02:27.45 | odat | i created the computer and the home folder but when i create the trash can i get two trashcan and it always looks full even if empty |
| 02:34.05 | _elijahlofgren | Icon=trashcan_full |
| 02:34.20 | _elijahlofgren | EmptyIcon=trashcan_empty |
| 02:34.20 | _elijahlofgren | Looking at: my trash.desktop, It looks like you could put these to lines in your trash.desktop and it would work: |
| 02:34.42 | _elijahlofgren | Just open /home/user/Desktop/trash.desktop with Kate or something. |
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| 02:37.22 | odat | k its open |
| 02:38.36 | odat | that worked |
| 02:38.47 | odat | k now how can i make the icons on the desktop bigger? |
| 02:39.25 | _elijahlofgren | and under Encoding put: Icon=trashcan_full on one line |
| 02:39.25 | _elijahlofgren | and EmptyIcon=trashcan_empty on another. |
| 02:41.35 | elijahlofgren | odat: I'm not sure other than changing your screen size. There's probably a way though. |
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| 02:42.32 | Phroziac | Hi, is there any reason that my color settings don't affect the kde bar? I'm in 3.3 |
| 02:43.34 | odat | hmmm ok |
| 02:43.45 | elijahlofgren | Phroziac: Yes, right click on the kde bar and choose "Panel Menu -> Configure Panel" |
| 02:44.15 | Phroziac | hmm, ok. |
| 02:44.26 | elijahlofgren | Phroziac: Go to the appearance tab and check "Colorize to match the desktop color scheme" |
| 02:45.01 | Phroziac | hmm, i'm going to have to use custom settings. it's not dark enough :) |
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| 03:08.24 | canllaith | zenum: I can't reproduce your bug with the latest kopete from SVN. |
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| 03:11.00 | boow | hello] |
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| 03:12.11 | boow | how come konqeuror wont open some websites like php sites |
| 03:12.37 | eddrex | boow: url? |
| 03:13.27 | boow | i cant remember but anything with php wont open but it offers to open it in firefox |
| 03:13.58 | eddrex | oh. you have the wrong app associated with *.php files |
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| 03:14.17 | eddrex | settings > file associations in konq |
| 03:14.47 | boow | mabye ill checkit out |
| 03:15.46 | SadEagle | shouldn''t matter unless the server is broken |
| 03:15.58 | boow | i all ways use firefox anyways but it crashes alot but a new version is coming out pretty soon |
| 03:16.29 | boow | thanks for info |
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| 03:17.03 | eddrex | SadEagle: oh ya mime types |
| 03:17.28 | SadEagle | right. php should just return text/html |
| 03:17.39 | eddrex | anybody working on tenor application support yet? |
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| 03:21.25 | zenum | canllaith: perhaps it has been accidently fixed in the svn version |
| 03:21.25 | zenum | I suppose I could give the svn version a go... |
| 03:21.47 | zenum | is there a bot that tells me the repo? |
| 03:21.49 | zenum | !svn |
| 03:22.02 | zenum | !kopete |
| 03:22.07 | canllaith | zenum: heh no but I can tell you |
| 03:22.11 | canllaith | if you don't mind that I'm not automated that is |
| 03:22.24 | zenum | hehe i don't mind at all :p |
| 03:22.42 | canllaith | http://kopete.kde.org/svnaccess.php |
| 03:22.54 | canllaith | The top one, development branch. |
| 03:25.01 | zenum | thanks :) |
| 03:26.46 | zenum | do i need the --enable-debug? |
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| 03:27.56 | canllaith | zenum: welll not really no. Except if you do then have the problem still you can give the devels debug output to fix it with |
| 03:28.18 | zenum | ah okaiz, may as well leave it then.. |
| 03:28.23 | Oleg_ | 3.5 is the next version? |
| 03:28.34 | Oleg_ | finally some new features will be added! |
| 03:29.49 | canllaith | oh hush Oleg_ there were plenty of new features in 3.4 |
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| 03:31.25 | BROKEN_LADDER | every time i start kde, i have to type "sudo alsactl restore 0" before sound will work. |
| 03:31.34 | BROKEN_LADDER | any way i can fix this little problem? |
| 03:31.40 | BROKEN_LADDER | and is there a way to use flak with juk? |
| 03:31.55 | canllaith | BROKEN_LADDER: Yes, by adding that command to your OS startup scripts. |
| 03:32.18 | BROKEN_LADDER | it should be there already. |
| 03:32.20 | BROKEN_LADDER | i'm running ubuntu. |
| 03:32.25 | BROKEN_LADDER | this problem doesn't happen in gnome. |
| 03:32.38 | canllaith | Check that kmix is not set to load volumes on starting KDE |
| 03:32.44 | canllaith | and that those volumes are not all channels muted. |
| 03:32.56 | BROKEN_LADDER | one sec |
| 03:33.06 | BROKEN_LADDER | where would i check that? |
| 03:33.09 | BROKEN_LADDER | i don't see kmix prefs anywhere |
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| 03:34.52 | azazello | does anyone here use the kde screen lock feature and kxkb with foreign layouts? |
| 03:34.54 | canllaith | uh |
| 03:35.04 | canllaith | BROKEN_LADDER: you mean other than Settings -> Configure KMix ? |
| 03:35.17 | BROKEN_LADDER | azazello is your password full of utf-8 characters? |
| 03:35.26 | BROKEN_LADDER | i'll look |
| 03:35.36 | BROKEN_LADDER | settings? |
| 03:35.40 | BROKEN_LADDER | you mean control center? |
| 03:35.46 | canllaith | I mean in the kmix program. |
| 03:35.51 | canllaith | There is a menu called Settings. |
| 03:35.58 | canllaith | In this menu is a menu item called Configure KMix |
| 03:36.04 | azazello | BROKEN_LADDER: no it's not that |
| 03:36.28 | BROKEN_LADDER | i see no menu called "settings" in kde |
| 03:36.39 | canllaith | In the kmix program |
| 03:36.43 | azazello | I'm having a problem switching back to english from a foreign layout when in the klockscreen applet |
| 03:36.45 | canllaith | There is a menu called 'Settings' on the menubar. |
| 03:36.49 | canllaith | Where all the other menus in the kmix program are. |
| 03:36.53 | azazello | i.e. it won't switch |
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| 03:37.07 | azazello | it just says "err" |
| 03:37.08 | BROKEN_LADDER | i'm using kmix |
| 03:37.11 | BROKEN_LADDER | i see no menu whatsoever |
| 03:37.11 | canllaith | File, Settings, Help ... etc |
| 03:37.15 | odat | hi everyone |
| 03:37.15 | BROKEN_LADDER | oh! |
| 03:37.20 | BROKEN_LADDER | at the top of the screen. forgot i was in kde |
| 03:37.34 | odat | uhm how do i rearrange and/or move thing on the kicker |
| 03:37.49 | azazello | also it doesn't make sense to me that the lock applet should inherit whatever the active layout is for the last focused window |
| 03:37.52 | canllaith | odat: by the applet handle. Do you have a small black arrow beside every applet on kicker? |
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| 03:38.17 | BROKEN_LADDER | i removed "restore volumes" |
| 03:38.21 | BROKEN_LADDER | now let's try this.. |
| 03:38.23 | canllaith | If you don't, you can turn it on by right clicking on the kicker and going to Configure Panel -> Appearance -> Advanced |
| 03:38.27 | canllaith | and make the applet handles 'visible' |
| 03:38.30 | odat | canllaith: gotcha |
| 03:38.33 | canllaith | :) |
| 03:38.43 | zenum | ahhh crap |
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| 03:38.48 | BROKEN_LADDER | ĉu iu ĉi tie parolas ĉi tiun lingvon kiel mi? |
| 03:39.00 | zenum | that debian/kde problem again :s |
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| 03:39.32 | canllaith | zenum: oh? Can't build the new version? |
| 03:39.45 | zenum | couldnt get passed configure |
| 03:39.51 | zenum | cause of qt |
| 03:40.18 | chrisag | install the qt dev files. |
| 03:40.56 | canllaith | yes, qt-devel and qt-mt-devel if it's a seperate package |
| 03:42.12 | zenum | yeah, but its not that easy with debian atm :p |
| 03:42.17 | zenum | debian is doin some changes to their apt-get thingy |
| 03:42.39 | zenum | so when i tried to install the qt-devel packages last week it almost uninstalled 3/4's of kde :p |
| 03:42.56 | zenum | i think 274 files or so it wanted to remove :p |
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| 03:43.04 | BROKEN_LADDER | thanks dude |
| 03:43.05 | zenum | today its just 64... so der getting betta :p |
| 03:43.08 | canllaith | Yikes, that's shockin. Glad I'm not using debian! :P |
| 03:43.12 | BROKEN_LADDER | it worked. |
| 03:43.18 | canllaith | BROKEN_LADDER: cool |
| 03:43.23 | BROKEN_LADDER | ubuntu is based on debian, and it rocks. |
| 03:43.46 | zenum | meh i didnt like ubuntu |
| 03:43.54 | canllaith | still glad I'm not using it. Then again I don't use packaged qt anyway so I don't imagine it would make much difference |
| 03:43.56 | BROKEN_LADDER | canllaith today i did a an apt-get upgrade and my audio wouldn't work suddenly. i spent hours on it, turning esd on and off and what not. finally, out of NOWHERE, it just started working for no apparent reason. |
| 03:43.59 | zenum | debian is excellent... der just making some big changes for when kde 4 comes out |
| 03:44.05 | BROKEN_LADDER | kde 4? |
| 03:44.08 | BROKEN_LADDER | for rizl? |
| 03:44.09 | canllaith | umm that's not going to happen for something like a year :) |
| 03:44.11 | BROKEN_LADDER | what's that gonna be like? |
| 03:44.23 | zenum | BE Prepared! :D |
| 03:44.28 | chrisag | kde 4 is over a year away? |
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| 03:44.34 | canllaith | It's a long time away yes |
| 03:44.35 | zenum | could have been 3.5 :p |
| 03:44.40 | zenum | one of the two :P |
| 03:45.23 | BROKEN_LADDER | any of you dudes have a sip phone? |
| 03:45.38 | Phroziac | what's a sip phone? |
| 03:45.42 | canllaith | zenum: prolly 3.5 I imagine since that's about a month away ish |
| 03:46.33 | zenum | a month aye? sooner then i expected :p |
| 03:46.38 | zenum | i havnt even got 3.4.2! :p |
| 03:46.54 | canllaith | Well .. it might be more like two months. |
| 03:46.59 | canllaith | It's quite close at ny rate :) |
| 03:47.06 | BROKEN_LADDER | HUH? |
| 03:47.14 | BROKEN_LADDER | Phroziac it supports wi-fi sip? |
| 03:47.29 | BROKEN_LADDER | canllaith dude is generic. |
| 03:47.31 | Phroziac | BROKEN_LADDER: no. it's 10 years old, it does nothing but call people. |
| 03:47.34 | BROKEN_LADDER | canllaith are you female? |
| 03:47.34 | chrisag | I wish most distros would make upgradable packages public.. i.e. mandriva. |
| 03:47.46 | Phroziac | BROKEN_LADDER: i think it has a vibratory ringer too. |
| 03:47.49 | BROKEN_LADDER | Phroziac an sip phone basically just calls people too, only it uses the internet. |
| 03:47.59 | BROKEN_LADDER | anything that can vibrate is good. |
| 03:48.02 | Phroziac | BROKEN_LADDER: ah. well this is 10 years old. |
| 03:48.29 | BROKEN_LADDER | you can get wi-fi sip phones. using those, you and a friend could talk from inside two starbucks stores across the world from each other. |
| 03:48.31 | BROKEN_LADDER | free all day |
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| 03:49.16 | Phroziac | starbucks? people go there? |
| 03:49.30 | Phroziac | i really wonder why i cannot get the starTAC to charge though.. |
| 03:51.15 | Phroziac | it has like a 3 line LCD :) |
| 03:51.23 | BROKEN_LADDER | now if i could get juk to play a flac file. arghhh |
| 03:51.33 | BROKEN_LADDER | the battery is old |
| 03:51.39 | zenum | starbucks gives u free wi-fi? |
| 03:52.31 | zenum | ergh... stupid Australian government that doesnt care about IT and broadband... |
| 03:52.42 | Phroziac | BROKEN_LADDER: it's a nimh, i have experience with these cells. It should atleast get a little juice. it won't even run continuously on the charger. |
| 03:52.47 | Dhraakellian | how do I print the current selection and only the current selection in konqi? |
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| 03:54.45 | zenum | true :p but lets not be positive :p |
| 03:57.59 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 04:02.11 | Dhraakellian | oy... I could get this on a single page if it didn't have a large area of superfluous stuff at the top |
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| 04:04.20 | Clamps | how to get viewmode_toolbar action list back ? |
| 04:04.29 | Clamps | to konqueror toolbar |
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| 04:12.52 | Octane | what way do you guys suggest to get media working in koqueror |
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| 04:13.17 | canllaith | as in playing embedded media in webpages? |
| 04:13.23 | canllaith | probably mplayer and kmplayer |
| 04:13.33 | Octane | sidenote: im using amd64 :) |
| 04:13.54 | canllaith | hrm does mplayer work on that? I have no clue :P |
| 04:14.01 | Octane | ya it does sure |
| 04:14.04 | Octane | but win32 codecs dont |
| 04:14.09 | Octane | and neader does flash or realplayer |
| 04:14.16 | Octane | so i use firefox 32 bit sometimes |
| 04:14.21 | Octane | but im pretty used to not having flash |
| 04:15.29 | Clamps | you need mplayer 32bits |
| 04:15.39 | Clamps | to use 32bit codecs |
| 04:15.39 | Octane | ya i have my chroot32 all set up |
| 04:15.42 | Octane | i know |
| 04:15.50 | Octane | i still want to get *some* media working in konqui though |
| 04:15.58 | Dhraakellian | how would I print a selection in konqueror? |
| 04:16.32 | Clamps | hell, someone even know whats viewmode_toolbar action list ? |
| 04:16.50 | Clamps | I removed this #$% from the toolbar now can't put it back |
| 04:17.02 | Dhraakellian | yeah... it gives you a warning about that |
| 04:17.29 | Clamps | Why can't I put it back ??? |
| 04:17.37 | Dhraakellian | I don't know |
| 04:17.55 | Clamps | Inst insane to alow to remove somehting you can't put back ? |
| 04:18.18 | Clamps | damnit... |
| 04:18.29 | Dhraakellian | try looking in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/toolbar |
| 04:18.37 | Dhraakellian | try renaming an appropriate-looking file |
| 04:18.49 | Dhraakellian | this is just a guess |
| 04:19.19 | Clamps | konqui wont open |
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| 04:20.08 | Dhraakellian | ouch |
| 04:20.28 | Dhraakellian | change the name back to what it was, then? |
| 04:21.29 | Clamps | yeah hehe |
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| 04:22.02 | Clamps | funy at kde manual |
| 04:22.07 | Clamps | There must be a way to restore the default toolbars in an application, in order to recover from accidentally deleting an important action like <Merge>, but I don't know what it is. |
| 04:22.26 | Clamps | Nice for a manual ehhehe |
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| 04:29.22 | canllaith | Clamps: you can delete the rc file for the app |
| 04:30.09 | Clamps | Ok I WIll try ... |
| 04:30.43 | canllaith | That will restore all settings though |
| 04:30.46 | canllaith | hrm I'm *sure* there was a toolbar rc file |
| 04:30.48 | Dhraakellian | mv, then? |
| 04:31.06 | Clamps | well, I wasted already 1 hours tring to get that thing back.. |
| 04:31.39 | Clamps | konquerorrc only ? |
| 04:32.30 | Clamps | rm konq* |
| 04:32.55 | Dhraakellian | mv konq* konqrc_backups? |
| 04:33.48 | Clamps | well.. deleted and.. still missing arg |
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| 04:36.38 | SadEagle | you need to remove something like .kde/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc |
| 04:37.24 | Dhraakellian | is it even *possible* to print a selection in konqi? |
| 04:37.33 | canllaith | Clamps: do you have a konqueror toolbar rc? |
| 04:37.35 | canllaith | Dhraakellian: no. |
| 04:37.40 | canllaith | Copy and paste it into kwrite? |
| 04:37.53 | Dhraakellian | a table? |
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| 04:38.09 | Clamps | canllaith: searching.. |
| 04:38.10 | canllaith | copy and paste it into quanta? |
| 04:38.14 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 04:38.49 | Clamps | ok got it back |
| 04:39.06 | Clamps | konqueror.rc did the trick |
| 04:39.38 | Clamps | this should be at the manual.. or a better way to get this back... |
| 04:40.06 | MEtaLpREs | can someone give me a hand with a network problem im having with kde? |
| 04:40.24 | SadEagle | Clamps: 3.5 has/will have a "Default" button in the toolbar editor |
| 04:40.32 | canllaith | Clamps: It says in the dialog 'this is a dynamic list of actions. You can move it but if you remove it you wont be able to re-add it' |
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| 04:41.26 | BROKEN_LADDER | WHY CAN'T i get juk to play flac files? |
| 04:41.27 | MEtaLpREs | using gentoo my network works fine, then i boot into kde load up konqueror or anything for that matter, load up any webpage and about halfway through loading the page it stops and my network doesn't work at all |
| 04:41.31 | BROKEN_LADDER | the site says it's supposed to be able to |
| 04:41.37 | MEtaLpREs | but as soon as i exit kde it works again |
| 04:41.47 | BROKEN_LADDER | oggb4mp3|away you know anything about this? |
| 04:41.50 | canllaith | SadEagle: :P |
| 04:42.20 | MEtaLpREs | i tried adding the KDE_NO_IPV6 = 1 line to kde99-env and it didn't have any effect |
| 04:42.44 | Clamps | That's my lesson ;P but I never trust anything I read so I had to delete ;P |
| 04:42.49 | canllaith | Clamps: heh |
| 04:43.37 | Dhraakellian | Clamps, and renaming if usually better if you're just testing to see which config file needs to be regenerated |
| 04:43.39 | Clamps | But seriusly it was an accident meh |
| 04:43.58 | canllaith | MEtaLpREs: what on earth is kde99-env ? |
| 04:44.27 | MEtaLpREs | 99kde-env: actually |
| 04:44.29 | MEtaLpREs | sorry |
| 04:44.54 | MEtaLpREs | ./etc/env.d/99kde-env: |
| 04:45.05 | canllaith | What is this? Not a KDE binary or script |
| 04:45.59 | MEtaLpREs | in the kde documentation it said to modeify that file to disable IPv6 support |
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| 04:46.14 | canllaith | In the KDE documentation? I think this is very unlikely. |
| 04:46.41 | Dhraakellian | chapter and verse? |
| 04:46.42 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
| 04:47.00 | MEtaLpREs | its in the Gentoo Linux Documentation - The KDE Configuration HOWTO |
| 04:47.03 | canllaith | at any rate, do you have a problem with any other WM or DE? |
| 04:47.03 | bloomy | I think a file got corrupted and now konq says cannot find application/octet-stream whenever it starts up. how can I fix this? |
| 04:47.15 | bloomy | i already reran kbuildsycoca |
| 04:47.35 | MEtaLpREs | i dont run any other wm's so i couldn't answer that |
| 04:47.39 | MEtaLpREs | i only use kde |
| 04:48.26 | bloomy | i am betting i may just need a .desktop file but redownloading kdelibs will take a long time |
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| 04:48.39 | difekta | MY COmputer has been literally freezing today |
| 04:48.41 | difekta | just bam..freeze |
| 04:48.43 | difekta | never had that happer |
| 04:48.46 | difekta | happen |
| 04:49.05 | canllaith | MEtaLpREs: do you have any proxy settings in kcontrol? |
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| 04:49.18 | MEtaLpREs | no nothing, its just direct internet connection |
| 04:49.22 | canllaith | and do please try using another wm, if you have anything else installed just to check where the problem lies. It really helps in troubleshooting |
| 04:49.23 | bloomy | mine doesn't freee difekta. i just get extremely sluggish performance randomly that requires a hard reboot |
| 04:50.20 | difekta | hmmm |
| 04:50.32 | difekta | hopefully whatever this is it's something that will "fix itself" |
| 04:50.36 | difekta | like many other problems i've had |
| 04:50.36 | bloomy | tends to happen when telling konqueror to resize an image with large height to 3 times its original size with html |
| 04:50.51 | difekta | i get a hard freeze if i run nautilus. |
| 04:50.57 | bloomy | then BOOM gotta reboot kde (again) |
| 04:51.07 | difekta | how can i get juk to play flac files? |
| 04:51.12 | difekta | it says it's supposed to support them. |
| 04:51.28 | canllaith | do you have all of the codecs required to play flac files in any other player? |
| 04:51.50 | difekta | sure |
| 04:52.06 | bloomy | also tends to happen on some web pages with either java or shockwave. BOOM reboot time |
| 04:52.10 | bloomy | god I hate KHTML |
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| 04:52.49 | bloomy | hope that kgecko thing works out... |
| 04:52.56 | canllaith | You can try starting juk from a console difekta and seeing if it gives you any output when you try to play a flac file |
| 04:53.18 | difekta | well..none kde apps do |
| 04:53.24 | bloomy | KHTML is the biggest embarrasment to the KDE project imo |
| 04:53.26 | canllaith | juk --nofork |
| 04:53.37 | canllaith | bloomy: go and troll elsewhere please. We're not interested here. |
| 04:53.48 | bloomy | canllaith: troll? excuse me? |
| 04:53.49 | BROKEN_LADDER | canllaith it doesn't even show flac files |
| 04:54.22 | canllaith | BROKEN_LADDER: I'm afraid I don't even have any so I can't test it myself. You could try looking on bugs.kde.org to see if anyone has filed any bugs about it |
| 04:54.35 | canllaith | Sometimes people post workarounds in comments to bugs too that might help you get it working |
| 04:54.48 | bloomy | im just wondering if anyone else experiences my KHTML problems? |
| 04:55.26 | BROKEN_LADDER | somehow when i run juk it acts as if i had put a & on it |
| 04:55.32 | BROKEN_LADDER | it doesn't hold and display output |
| 04:55.35 | canllaith | BROKEN_LADDER: run it --nofork |
| 04:55.48 | BROKEN_LADDER | fock |
| 04:55.50 | BROKEN_LADDER | never heard of that |
| 04:56.23 | canllaith | Although without debug enabled it still shows no output. |
| 04:56.44 | canllaith | apparently flac isn't supported by arts |
| 04:57.03 | canllaith | and flac support is implemented but wont be shipping with KDE until 3.5 |
| 04:57.26 | bloomy | anyone know if gstreamer will replace aRts eventually? |
| 04:57.36 | canllaith | It probably will not. |
| 04:57.41 | BROKEN_LADDER | supported by arts? |
| 04:57.46 | canllaith | Arts is being replaced, but most developers don't like the gstreamer option much either. |
| 04:57.52 | BROKEN_LADDER | it's supported by juk |
| 04:58.01 | canllaith | BROKEN_LADDER: not until KDE 3.5. |
| 04:58.02 | BROKEN_LADDER | i thought arts was just what piped the sound through to alsa |
| 04:58.05 | bloomy | are they looking at anything in particular right now? |
| 04:58.07 | BROKEN_LADDER | jesus that's absurd |
| 04:58.18 | canllaith | What, that we had to take time to implement a feature? |
| 04:58.24 | canllaith | Sorry, can't do it in a second :P |
| 04:58.42 | canllaith | bloomy: No real decision has been made except that arts has got to go. |
| 04:58.57 | bloomy | oh yay I absolutely agree with that decision :) |
| 04:59.10 | canllaith | It's not really that bad, but it's complex and easy to mess up ... and is now unmaintained. |
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| 04:59.24 | canllaith | The maintainer decided he didn't want to be involved with arts anymore just before 3.4 came out |
| 04:59.36 | BROKEN_LADDER | noatun plays them |
| 04:59.40 | BROKEN_LADDER | noatun plays flac |
| 04:59.55 | chrisag | canllaith: I don't blame him :D |
| 05:00.04 | BROKEN_LADDER | why? |
| 05:00.07 | BROKEN_LADDER | does arts suck? |
| 05:00.12 | BROKEN_LADDER | i could always switch to esd. |
| 05:00.19 | canllaith | chrisag: I think it was mostly he felt he wasn't getting much out of it, user appreciation wise and all that |
| 05:00.24 | canllaith | BROKEN_LADDER: no, if it works fine for you so far just keep using it. |
| 05:00.31 | BROKEN_LADDER | uh..esd worked better. |
| 05:00.34 | BROKEN_LADDER | it's just that now i'm in kde |
| 05:00.35 | canllaith | BROKEN_LADDER: the problem is not that it sucks, but that we have no maintainer. So eventually we'd have to move to something else. |
| 05:00.38 | BROKEN_LADDER | so i figure i should use arts |
| 05:00.43 | canllaith | So then use esd then, it really doesn't matter. |
| 05:00.49 | BROKEN_LADDER | oh my god |
| 05:00.53 | BROKEN_LADDER | it's just a dead project now? |
| 05:01.01 | canllaith | Wow, talk about overreacting. |
| 05:01.14 | BROKEN_LADDER | oh my GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 05:01.22 | BROKEN_LADDER | I'm GOING TO GO KILL SOMEONE HOLY HELLLLL |
| 05:01.32 | canllaith | chrisag: and looking at current irc channel I guess I can totally understand where he'd get this idea from ;) |
| 05:01.59 | bloomy | lol |
| 05:02.13 | chrisag | Sorry. I was doing something else. |
| 05:02.19 | chrisag | No it doesn't necessarily suck. |
| 05:02.29 | chrisag | It's good for I believe it's intended purpose. |
| 05:02.45 | chrisag | it just wasn't was broad and cross functional as I would have liked... |
| 05:02.50 | BROKEN_LADDER | esd is great. now i can use rhythmbox |
| 05:02.57 | chrisag | That and a lot of developers refused to use it. |
| 05:03.02 | canllaith | It is, it's very powerful. It's just also very complex and easy to mess up |
| 05:03.27 | canllaith | Which basically means I use xmms to play music because it's arts plugin messes up less than any KDE media player in svn at the moment. That's kinda ... strange =p |
| 05:03.39 | straw | i thought i read arts would be gone for kde4 |
| 05:03.40 | chrisag | haha... amarok? |
| 05:03.48 | BROKEN_LADDER | where would i want to put the esd command so it will be running when i start kde? |
| 05:03.52 | BROKEN_LADDER | .xinitrc? |
| 05:04.00 | canllaith | that would do BROKEN_LADDER |
| 05:04.02 | canllaith | straw: it will be |
| 05:04.09 | chrisag | What's wrong with amarok :P only problems I've found are from compiling with gcc4 |
| 05:04.33 | canllaith | BROKEN_LADDER: you can also put a little script, symlink or .desktop file in ~/.kde/Autostart (replace ~/.kde with your kde-config --localprefix) |
| 05:04.37 | straw | canllaith: any idea what's replacing it? if that's the case |
| 05:04.47 | canllaith | straw: no decision made afaik |
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| 05:05.02 | canllaith | chrisag: eh, just the arts plugin isn't maintained for that iirc |
| 05:05.10 | chrisag | ah. |
| 05:05.11 | canllaith | so if you use xine or helix it's great, arts it sometimes can be a bit strange. |
| 05:05.17 | chrisag | Yeah. i started to use xine. |
| 05:05.22 | chrisag | Never tried helix? |
| 05:05.33 | chrisag | gstreamer one seems aight. |
| 05:05.44 | canllaith | It's the realplayer engine, the open source component. I don't have anything installed but xine or arts though. |
| 05:06.03 | chrisag | ah |
| 05:06.10 | chrisag | Not sure if I want to use anything from real :x |
| 05:06.23 | canllaith | I'm not sure if it's from real or if they just use it? |
| 05:06.35 | chrisag | Ah. |
| 05:07.09 | Phroziac | night |
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| 05:11.16 | BROKEN_LADDER | i just put exec esd in my ~/.xinitrc |
| 05:11.19 | BROKEN_LADDER | we'll see how that works |
| 05:11.22 | BROKEN_LADDER | any of you guys live near seattle? |
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| 05:12.51 | chrisag | I stick to California personally |
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| 05:16.36 | xomp | hmm, would anyone know how I can go about gaining access to my cdrom drive without having to be root? heh |
| 05:16.50 | xomp | I'm sure I have to mess with the fstab entry. |
| 05:17.04 | xomp | or something :/ |
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| 05:17.57 | straw | you could add 'users' to the fstab line |
| 05:18.10 | xomp | straw, thanks, I'll give that a shot :) |
| 05:18.26 | canllaith | xomp: yeah you do but it's easy. Just do what straw said :) |
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| 05:19.07 | xomp | worked perfectly :) Much Thanks :) |
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| 05:20.15 | xomp | can't believe I knew what file needed changing heh, I'm starting to get the hang of all this it seems :P |
| 05:20.31 | canllaith | yay! :) |
| 05:20.37 | Ringwraith` | hehehhe yay yadda muwhahhahd squish. |
| 05:23.08 | Oleg_ | I don't understand people! |
| 05:23.14 | Oleg_ | I suffer because of it! |
| 05:23.19 | Oleg_ | I suffer! |
| 05:24.13 | Ringwraith` | you do? |
| 05:24.13 | Ringwraith` | wow |
| 05:24.17 | Ringwraith` | excellente |
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| 05:27.21 | xomp | uh oh, can't eject this cdrom now lol |
| 05:27.31 | Ringwraith` | umount it and eject |
| 05:28.11 | xomp | tried, but it's not ejecting :( |
| 05:28.45 | Ringwraith` | have you used the eject command |
| 05:28.54 | xomp | yeah, say's it failed. |
| 05:29.10 | xomp | "Eject /dev/cdrom Failed" |
| 05:29.16 | Ringwraith` | is it mounted |
| 05:29.24 | Oleg_ | for example, for the 1st time in my life I met someone who was so obsessed with power, who tried to rule me as if I am an object |
| 05:29.25 | Ringwraith` | or is there an app opened that may still be using it |
| 05:29.30 | xomp | I've tried with it mounted and umounted :p |
| 05:29.44 | Ringwraith` | Oleg_, who was that? |
| 05:29.45 | xomp | oh, crap.. forgot I have an app associated with it opened lol |
| 05:29.59 | Ringwraith` | there ya go xomp |
| 05:29.59 | Oleg_ | the former boyfriend of Mom |
| 05:30.08 | Ringwraith` | close the f'in app |
| 05:30.19 | Ringwraith` | Oleg_, sucks... |
| 05:30.58 | Oleg_ | so, I don't know understand how this guy hasn't learned any tough lessons that would have changed him |
| 05:31.23 | Ringwraith` | Oleg_, does he run kde? |
| 05:31.32 | Oleg_ | no |
| 05:31.38 | Ringwraith` | tell him to run kde |
| 05:32.21 | Oleg_ | yeah, that would change him :) |
| 05:33.32 | Oleg_ | I SUFFER |
| 05:33.39 | Oleg_ | because I don't understand things! |
| 05:34.29 | Oleg_ | he's probably very insecure |
| 05:34.33 | CryoGenFX | why is there no indexlib under doc in kdepim svn, when it needs one for compiling? it exits when trying to compile (I know svn is unsupported, just grasping straws here, as I'd like to get KMail working) |
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| 05:34.39 | Oleg_ | but doesn't he suffer because of it? |
| 05:35.24 | Oleg_ | how was he able to live his whole life while being on the level of a 15 year old teenager in his behavior? |
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| 05:36.43 | joeblacken | Hi, does anyone know if there is a program which can sort the items of kmenu alphabetically? |
| 05:37.07 | Oleg_ | I drink alcohol very rarely |
| 05:37.35 | Oleg_ | but sometimes I drink it to stop suffering |
| 05:37.45 | Oleg_ | I mean I am not depressed |
| 05:38.01 | Oleg_ | I am in a good mood |
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| 05:38.09 | Oleg_ | but at the same time I suffer |
| 05:38.29 | Oleg_ | because I don't understand things |
| 05:39.38 | zorba64 | joeblacken, nope I think you have to rearrange them yourself |
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| 05:40.43 | joeblacken | zobra64, do you know where the menu is stored? I can try writing my own program |
| 05:43.23 | joeblacken | zorba64, do you know where the menu is stored? I can try writing my own program |
| 05:44.22 | adamt | joeblacken: kmenueditor... try that |
| 05:44.35 | Dhraakellian | s/or// |
| 05:44.53 | Dhraakellian | I don't think it alphabetizes |
| 05:45.06 | Dhraakellian | although I could be wrong |
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| 05:45.12 | Dhraakellian | it might do it automaticly |
| 05:45.22 | adamt | apperently not |
| 05:46.40 | joeblacken | Well at least if I can know where the menu is stored in my home directory, then I might be able to write something to handle it |
| 05:51.35 | adamt | joeblacken: you could look in the ~/.kde folder =) |
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| 05:52.20 | mpyne | There's also ~/.config/menus which should have the remove-from-KMenu list. |
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| 05:53.12 | joeblacken | adamt, I tried, I didn't succeed |
| 05:53.25 | zorba64 | http://people.fruitsalad.org/phil/kde/userguide-tng/kde-menu.html |
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| 05:54.24 | odat | hello everyone |
| 05:54.32 | odat | how do i create a symlink in kde? |
| 05:54.38 | joeblacken | zorba64, thanx, I think this might be the beginning of the thread |
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| 05:55.59 | mpyne | odat: ln from the Konsole. |
| 05:56.16 | mpyne | You can do Create New Link to... from Konqueror's right-click menu but it doesn't create symlinks afaik. |
| 05:56.32 | Oleg_ | wow! I just noticed canllaith turned on her ops priveledges today! |
| 05:56.47 | Oleg_ | it's cool to see canllaith as the op |
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| 05:56.59 | odat | geez how can gnome be killin kde in a lot of areas anymore |
| 05:57.36 | mpyne | Well it's not as if they ever were. ;) |
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| 05:58.09 | odat | how do you mean? |
| 05:58.39 | canllaith | You can create a symlink in KDE |
| 05:58.47 | canllaith | by simply dragging the file you want to link to the location you want to link it too |
| 05:58.53 | canllaith | it will ask if you want to copy, move, or link the file. |
| 05:59.32 | mpyne | Ah, drag-and-drop. What will they think of next? =D |
| 05:59.56 | mpyne | odat: There's been things that GNOME is better in, but I've never had the impression from actually using it that it was ever that much better. |
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| 06:03.18 | odat | canllaith: the drag drop doesn't work to create a symlink |
| 06:04.26 | mpyne | odat: Works here. Are you dragging it to a different folder or the same folder? |
| 06:04.41 | odat | mpyne: different folder |
| 06:04.54 | odat | i am trying to get the java plugin working |
| 06:05.26 | mpyne | Does it show up in the folder you drag it to as a link when Konq is done? |
| 06:05.49 | odat | let me try something |
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| 06:08.09 | johnny69 | Good evening folks...what was that webpage that came up awhile back. Something dedicated to Kde...but the idea was to trade documents or something? I can barely remember. Anyone know the details on that ? |
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| 06:09.42 | odat | nope |
| 06:09.48 | odat | just doesn't work |
| 06:10.32 | zorba64 | odat, are you trying to do this linking outside your home directory? |
| 06:11.25 | odat | i am trying to link java from my /usr/java/ directory to my /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox/ directory |
| 06:12.06 | zorba64 | you will need to launch file manager in super user mode to do it |
| 06:12.50 | odat | did that already thats how i got the non working link in that directory in the first place |
| 06:14.00 | canllaith | you need to be root to be able to create a symlink there |
| 06:14.05 | canllaith | and that's not how you install the java plugin |
| 06:15.09 | canllaith | you need to symlink libjavaplugin_oji.so from the appropriate directory into the firefox plugins dir |
| 06:15.22 | canllaith | Or you can do it in ~/.firefox/plugins iirc |
| 06:15.49 | odat | canllaith i used the terminal and used sudo to launch konqueror in two places then made a link from the java plugin in the java folder to the mozilla-firefox plugin folder |
| 06:16.02 | canllaith | try using the terminal |
| 06:16.17 | canllaith | ln -s /path/to/java.so/file /path/to/mozilla/plugins/folder |
| 06:16.19 | mpyne | That's what I ended up lubb0ring the CLI as well. :) |
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| 06:18.13 | bloomy | odat: is that for konqueror to use mozilla plugins? |
| 06:18.47 | zorba64 | bloomy, he is trying to link java plugin for firefox |
| 06:19.26 | zorba64 | odat, you get it done ok? |
| 06:19.50 | bloomy | oh? |
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| 06:21.28 | odat | no that worked |
| 06:21.29 | odat | cool |
| 06:21.35 | odat | thanx canllaith |
| 06:21.56 | odat | still a newbie so i don't know some commands off the top of my head yet |
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| 06:27.28 | odat | thanx bloomy and canllaith |
| 06:27.34 | odat | and zorba64 |
| 06:27.42 | odat | appreciate it |
| 06:27.50 | bloomy | heh ok I didn't really say much |
| 06:27.54 | canllaith | yw |
| 06:28.32 | odat | there are a lot of rooms bloomy where they don't say anything :) |
| 06:28.34 | bloomy | was going to point out that you can set directories in konqueror without symlinking but you weren't doing it for konqueror |
| 06:28.42 | bloomy | haha |
| 06:29.03 | odat | i just came over from gnome where something are better and somethings are not |
| 06:29.16 | odat | this was one that was better lol |
| 06:29.34 | zorba64 | no probs |
| 06:30.56 | bloomy | hehe I think firefox renders HTML better too (if thats what u mean) :) |
| 06:31.17 | canllaith | KHTML is a fully featured rendering engine |
| 06:31.25 | canllaith | and in SVN has better css support than firefox. |
| 06:32.08 | bloomy | oh? are those changes going to go into the 3.5 beta out on the 11th do u know? |
| 06:32.16 | canllaith | They're in the alpha out now. |
| 06:32.34 | canllaith | The reason apple uses KHTML is not because it's a 'crap' rendering engine. They're not stupid. |
| 06:32.41 | canllaith | nokia also. |
| 06:32.58 | bloomy | css is the biggest concern for me (dealing with fonts). |
| 06:33.04 | canllaith | fonts? |
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| 06:33.51 | bloomy | yes fonts with css code for most websites i visit isn't rendered with proper spacing |
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| 06:34.29 | bloomy | i've seen others say the same in here too. the bug has been reported multiple times on bugs.kde.org last I remember |
| 06:34.33 | zorba64 | bloomy, go visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ in konqueror and firefox/mozilla and see which looks better |
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| 06:35.45 | zorba64 | thought it might :) |
| 06:35.53 | bloomy | zorba64: they both look pretty good except konqueror has shadows |
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| 06:36.37 | zorba64 | yep...never knew the page had shadows until i used konqueror on it...like the 3d look |
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| 06:36.51 | bloomy | zorba64: go to http://www.c-span.org and max your font as high as possible and see if the font overlaps? |
| 06:36.59 | bloomy | hehe |
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| 06:38.10 | canllaith | is it valid html ? |
| 06:38.19 | gregday | beta 1 due soon? |
| 06:38.19 | zorba64 | bloomy, ...just a little |
| 06:38.29 | bloomy | gregday: 11th iirc |
| 06:38.38 | gregday | sweet |
| 06:38.54 | gregday | i wish there were slack pkgs |
| 06:38.57 | canllaith | w3c.org doesn't seem to think so |
| 06:39.11 | gregday | hey canllaith make some pkgs from the current 3.5 svn =) |
| 06:39.15 | canllaith | hahaha |
| 06:39.29 | bloomy | dunno maybe i can check if it's valid. for me i am in 2048x1600 and so font comes out larger so it overlaps quite a bit. this same type of CSS coding is used on quite a few news websites i visit |
| 06:39.50 | Oleg_ | oh, kde uses svn now, but not cvs? |
| 06:39.52 | Oleg_ | since when? |
| 06:39.57 | canllaith | since ages ago |
| 06:39.58 | zorba64 | canllaith, just a question...kde 3.5...via svn or konstruct which might be easier? |
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| 06:40.15 | canllaith | zorba64: either really. If you choose to use svn, try the kdesvn build script |
| 06:40.20 | gregday | feature plan for 3.5: "KDesktop -- Sex up the user switching ui. <Friedrich.W.H @Kossebau.de>" |
| 06:40.23 | gregday | sex up hahahah |
| 06:40.30 | canllaith | it has a help channel at #kdesvn-build |
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| 06:40.34 | canllaith | (no-one in there right now) |
| 06:40.37 | canllaith | but the maintainer is often there |
| 06:41.00 | zorba64 | ok...thanks will go find it and start the process |
| 06:41.09 | canllaith | It's in kdesdk/scripts |
| 06:42.02 | zorba64 | mmm kde 3.5 of 4...??? |
| 06:42.06 | straw | zorba64: be warned, you'll need lots of disk space depending on what you build |
| 06:42.15 | canllaith | Don't build 4 |
| 06:42.23 | canllaith | Don't even attempt it unless you're a developer. |
| 06:42.32 | straw | yeah, not much to see with 4 atm |
| 06:43.19 | Oleg_ | don't build 4? |
| 06:43.20 | straw | kdebase sometimes builds and stuff's all busted :) |
| 06:43.31 | canllaith | oh excellent! the libacl problem seems to be gone with kdelibs in 3.5 now |
| 06:43.32 | zorba64 | ok...i will leave 4 for the devs...have plenty of disk space....does it build into ~ |
| 06:43.36 | Oleg_ | why not? it's cool to try out an alpha version |
| 06:43.39 | canllaith | wherever you want it to zorba64 |
| 06:43.42 | straw | they're working on kdelibs first i gather |
| 06:43.48 | canllaith | Oleg_: because it's not alpha yet, it doesn't even build properly. |
| 06:44.12 | Oleg_ | oh, ok |
| 06:44.25 | gregday | at this stage 4 is just porting to the new Qt and discussing what we want in 4 |
| 06:44.25 | canllaith | Oleg_: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/images/kde4-02.png |
| 06:44.37 | canllaith | http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/images/kde4-04.png |
| 06:44.40 | Oleg_ | thanks |
| 06:44.55 | canllaith | lots of things are badly broken |
| 06:45.06 | MEtaLpREs | ok i am completely stumped on this problem, anytime im in kde i can not switch to su it always says access denied and my password is definetly correct, starting kde as root dumps me to 3 terminal windows, if i start kde with any user account that has "wheel" so it can switch to su i get dumped to 3 terminals, but if i login with an acocunt that doesn't have "wheel" i get right to the desktop without a problem, but cant su |
| 06:45.57 | MEtaLpREs | how do you figure? |
| 06:46.07 | kkrizka | MEtaLpREs: you can't login as root unless you are in the wheel group |
| 06:46.09 | canllaith | heh look at what you just said. You have a severely broken system. |
| 06:46.10 | gregday | canllaith: i like your qdb quote =) |
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| 06:46.19 | canllaith | gregday: heh thanks.. darn that Dhraakellian |
| 06:46.30 | gregday | canllaith: if you think you shouldnt be allowed to touch a bootloader, my amd64 box is currently dual booting slackware and OSX |
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| 06:46.48 | Dhraakellian | canllaith, hey, I asked you first |
| 06:46.57 | xuserx_ | Hello everyone |
| 06:46.57 | MEtaLpREs | kkrizka: i know that, but any account in the wheel group wont load kde.... |
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| 06:46.59 | canllaith | gregday:ehe I was threatening people with making a photo of my boot screen on Hal |
| 06:47.05 | canllaith | 2x linux, 2x win and solaris x86 |
| 06:47.30 | Tm_T | uuh |
| 06:47.34 | pchan | hiya, my flag icons disapeared from my keyboard switcher applet...its just a grey "en" now...any ideas on whats wrong? |
| 06:47.37 | Tm_T | fast internet <3 |
| 06:47.58 | canllaith | heh you can if you want |
| 06:48.03 | canllaith | although I don't like that bot much |
| 06:48.08 | Dhraakellian | oh, realyl? |
| 06:48.14 | Dhraakellian | you sure? |
| 06:48.25 | xuserx_ | yar |
| 06:48.29 | canllaith | if you must |
| 06:48.41 | canllaith | It's not like it's offensive or overtly sexual so sure. |
| 06:48.42 | Tm_T | hi canllaith :) |
| 06:48.45 | canllaith | Heya Tm_T |
| 06:48.49 | Dhraakellian | saved by laziness |
| 06:48.52 | Dhraakellian | canllaith, heh |
| 06:48.58 | Dhraakellian | it was something different |
| 06:49.19 | canllaith | heh I guess I should be shocked that a quote that wasn't racist, overtly sexual or otherwise offensive was accepted |
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| 06:50.20 | gregday | or about being on IRC while your house burns down |
| 06:50.24 | canllaith | True. |
| 06:50.31 | gregday | yes unsermake colors make me happy |
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| 06:50.43 | Dhraakellian | or about having physically lost your box even though you can still ping it |
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| 06:51.51 | canllaith | I never lose it on the network. Not as long as I can while ($counter < 254) { if (fork()) { my $output = `ping -w1 192.168.0.$counter`; ... etc |
| 06:51.57 | satempler | is there a bloging client for KDE |
| 06:52.00 | canllaith | Physically, I can't locate with perl. |
| 06:52.04 | canllaith | Unfortunately. |
| 06:52.19 | xuserx_ | Anyone like to hep me get my kde install to find my QT 4.01 install? |
| 06:52.21 | satempler | or a Bittorrent Client |
| 06:52.31 | canllaith | Nope! I don't do Qt4 user support unless you're a developer :) |
| 06:52.46 | gregday | satempler: in extragear/network/ there is ktorrent |
| 06:52.51 | bloomy | satempler: i faintly recall some type of plugin for KOrganizer in its infancy months back |
| 06:52.53 | Dhraakellian | there's ktorrent, but I still prefer azureus |
| 06:53.03 | satempler | Ya me to |
| 06:53.11 | gregday | i still prefer btdownloadcurses.py |
| 06:53.14 | satempler | how about a bloging client |
| 06:53.17 | Dhraakellian | big, nasty hog that it is |
| 06:53.27 | gregday | well, it's java |
| 06:53.39 | bloomy | all it did was add blog entries last I saw it |
| 06:54.03 | Oleg_ | ok, just loaded the 1st png of kde |
| 06:54.03 | Oleg_ | 4 |
| 06:54.14 | canllaith | *blink* are you on really crippled dialup Oleg_ ? |
| 06:54.16 | satempler | ok |
| 06:54.41 | Oleg_ | so, now we have the system icon? |
| 06:54.48 | Oleg_ | canllaith: 56K |
| 06:55.19 | gregday | Oleg_: that's in 3.5 and even 3.4.2 i think, and there is no real kde4 yet. right now kde4 is just 3.5 ported to qt4. |
| 06:55.24 | xuserx_ | ok Then just 1 question, i should only have to have QT 4.01 right? nothing else? |
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| 06:55.48 | Oleg_ | I haven't updated since 3.4.0 |
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| 06:56.45 | bloomy | xuserx_: stable kde doesn't compile against qt 4 if that's what your asking |
| 06:57.08 | gregday | there is seriously no reason to have kde4 unless you are a developer porting to qt4. there's nothing really interesting for users whatsoever. believe me i wish there was, i live for that pre-alpha in-development shit |
| 06:58.42 | Oleg_ | ok |
| 06:59.13 | gregday | canllaith: do you use unsermake to build 3.5? |
| 06:59.21 | canllaith | gregday: yes |
| 06:59.38 | canllaith | and KDE4 is *not* for users, do not build it and we certainly are not going to help you in here if you're foolish enough to try. Please :) |
| 06:59.54 | gregday | canllaith: annma was telling me there are potential problems doing that, since it's meant for kde4, and because it's slower than automake... ? |
| 07:00.21 | canllaith | gregday: It's not meant for kde4, we've had it since 3.3.X ..... |
| 07:00.42 | canllaith | as far as slower than automake, I think it varies wildly depending on setup |
| 07:00.45 | gregday | canllaith: yeah i thought so, i thought it was the preffered method for building kde, since it was supposedly faster |
| 07:00.50 | gregday | ah |
| 07:00.53 | canllaith | It seems to really depend. |
| 07:01.01 | canllaith | It's about the same for me. |
| 07:01.05 | gregday | but speed aside, there should not be any problems using unsermake ? |
| 07:01.09 | canllaith | It's required for KDE4 though so I have it installed |
| 07:01.12 | gregday | ive never had an issue because of it, but she was warning |
| 07:01.21 | canllaith | gregday: no, no problems here for months. |
| 07:01.39 | gregday | ok, back to unsermake i go. PRETTY COLORS |
| 07:01.46 | canllaith | pretty colours are cool |
| 07:02.24 | gregday | i somehow have broken kwallet and kcookiejar and i think a kdelibs rebuild is in order |
| 07:02.42 | gregday | kopete isnt happy without kwallet |
| 07:03.06 | canllaith | freeeeeeeeeeeeezing, my nose is cold even |
| 07:03.07 | canllaith | brb :) |
| 07:03.51 | Tm_T | :) |
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| 07:08.16 | bitlooter | hi guys! |
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| 07:08.57 | bitlooter | newbee needs some help with kde! |
| 07:09.07 | canllaith | what with ? |
| 07:09.25 | zorba64 | bitlooter: help with what? |
| 07:09.34 | bitlooter | i want to add an icon to my menu for mysql |
| 07:09.50 | gregday | kmenuedit |
| 07:09.58 | canllaith | Right click your kmenu and select 'edit' |
| 07:10.45 | bitlooter | well i am using mandrake, i don't know if there is that option |
| 07:11.01 | canllaith | So look for it :) |
| 07:11.04 | canllaith | See if it is there. |
| 07:11.15 | canllaith | mandrake has it's own tool called menudrake also. |
| 07:11.26 | bitlooter | I am at "configure my computer">>"Menus" |
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| 07:11.59 | bitlooter | yeah at "MenuDrake" |
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| 07:14.10 | bitlooter | anyone? |
| 07:14.54 | canllaith | how can we know? menudrake is not made by KDE. Try asking in #mandrake. |
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| 07:15.17 | bitlooter | ok, I'll try. thanks anyway. |
| 07:16.53 | zorba64 | bitlooter: read the help in menudrake...it has a similar setup to kmenuedit...wont take you long.. |
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| 07:30.31 | odat | does anyone know how to make firefox the system default browser?? |
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| 07:31.35 | jsingh | there will be option when u install it, to make it default for browsing |
| 07:32.23 | odat | and if i missed it when i installed it? |
| 07:33.07 | jsingh | in kde control centre |
| 07:35.43 | odat | i didn't see anything in there related to it |
| 07:35.58 | canllaith | odat: Kcontrol -> KDE Components -> Components |
| 07:36.17 | jsingh | thanks canllaith |
| 07:37.25 | odat | hmmm i don't really have anything in there |
| 07:37.52 | canllaith | kde version? |
| 07:38.13 | odat | the newest one |
| 07:38.26 | canllaith | what kde version. |
| 07:40.04 | odat | 3.4.2 |
| 07:40.42 | canllaith | Well, it should be there. Is there something there named slightly different perhaps? |
| 07:41.25 | odat | i think i found it |
| 07:41.37 | odat | its in the user account now |
| 07:45.42 | odat | yea thats where it is now |
| 07:46.23 | gregday | canllaith: i have to show you this since you're partially responsible for it: http://65.255.114.35/~gregday/shot.jpg |
| 07:47.36 | fangel | heh... |
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| 07:49.18 | odat | gregday: :) cool |
| 07:49.28 | canllaith | hahaha |
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| 08:00.34 | bloomy | hey..why are you the only op in here? |
| 08:00.48 | johnny69 | She's cursed ?? |
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| 08:01.59 | markey | amarok 1.3.1 out :) |
| 08:02.00 | bloomy | thought more would be present for such a big project |
| 08:02.16 | markey | ..and fetches more coffee |
| 08:05.47 | gregday | yaaay go amarok |
| 08:05.52 | gregday | now compile on Darwin dammit |
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| 08:06.32 | markey | no workie? |
| 08:06.36 | markey | what's the problem? |
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| 08:06.45 | canllaith | I'm not, the others just aren't here right now bloomy |
| 08:07.09 | gregday | i believe it says gcc4 is blacklisted |
| 08:07.23 | bloomy | oh |
| 08:08.06 | markey | gregday: ah, just update to gcc 4.0.1 |
| 08:08.21 | gregday | on OSX? How? is here a new XCode release out? |
| 08:08.22 | markey | gregday: or patch the makefile so that it ignores the version |
| 08:08.33 | gregday | i have 2.1 |
| 08:08.40 | markey | I guess changing one line would do the trick |
| 08:09.12 | canllaith | gregday: The latest version of xcode is still using 4.0.0 so you'll have to change the line. |
| 08:09.31 | markey | probably it's gonna work ok with 4.0.0 |
| 08:09.38 | markey | (no guarantees though) |
| 08:09.49 | gregday | ok, which file to edit? |
| 08:09.54 | markey | hm.. |
| 08:11.11 | markey | dunno :) |
| 08:11.16 | markey | grep a bit |
| 08:11.19 | gregday | im triyng |
| 08:11.24 | gregday | i'll figure something out |
| 08:11.31 | markey | something in the admin/ folder I guess |
| 08:11.35 | markey | yeah |
| 08:12.14 | gregday | well its in fink |
| 08:12.18 | gregday | but it didnt build |
| 08:12.22 | gregday | so maybe i'll bug them |
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| 08:13.03 | canllaith | just grep for the message it printed when it told you it was blacklisted |
| 08:13.10 | canllaith | (blacklist is a good thing to grep for) |
| 08:13.16 | gregday | yeah |
| 08:13.20 | xixor | Hey everyone, quick question. Anyone know why konqueror might be very slow when browsing local folders? |
| 08:13.21 | gregday | it compiles a test program |
| 08:13.27 | gregday | it's not just a string comparison |
| 08:14.07 | canllaith | Yes, but it still has an echo 'this verison sucks' or whatever. Just find that and comment the if statement out =p |
| 08:14.35 | gregday | or force fink to get binaries :) |
| 08:14.38 | bloomy | xixor: did you compile with FAD? |
| 08:15.01 | xixor | bloomy : I am not sure, its a debian package install |
| 08:15.10 | bloomy | i recall fad had problems taking up lots of cpu once a while back |
| 08:15.15 | bloomy | for me anyway |
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| 08:15.56 | bloomy | xixor: may try: ldd $(which konqueror) | grep libfad |
| 08:17.47 | xixor | ok, that doesn't list anything |
| 08:18.15 | bloomy | ok no fad then im out of ideas |
| 08:18.43 | xixor | one thing |
| 08:18.50 | xixor | is that if I use konq to sftp to another server |
| 08:18.54 | xixor | browsing files works fine |
| 08:19.26 | xixor | clicking on directories brings them up quickly, etc |
| 08:22.00 | odat | why does kde use arts? instead of just like alsa? |
| 08:22.56 | markey | cause arts provides mixing, and decoding |
| 08:23.06 | markey | you can't pipe an ogg vorbis to alsa :) |
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| 08:23.16 | markey | but arts is deprecated anyway |
| 08:25.19 | HilBilly | what is taking artsd's place? |
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| 08:25.44 | HilBilly | something that plays well with mplayer, I hope! |
| 08:25.59 | markey | it's called kdemm |
| 08:26.03 | markey | an abstraction layer |
| 08:26.16 | markey | you will be able to switch between multiple backends |
| 08:26.20 | HilBilly | ahhhh .. I have heard of that |
| 08:26.22 | markey | e.g. xine or gstreamer |
| 08:26.27 | markey | much like amarok works now |
| 08:26.41 | HilBilly | mplayer works so much better than xine tho |
| 08:26.55 | markey | mplayer is not a library, though |
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| 08:27.14 | HilBilly | ahhhh .. NOW I am following you |
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| 08:27.17 | odat | ahh i c i'm just trying to understand kde a little better |
| 08:27.19 | markey | and xine is great for audio |
| 08:27.32 | davidhouse | hey, I'm looking for a KDE front-end to SVN. I know there's a few out there, just wondering if someone could recommend me one? |
| 08:27.37 | johnny69 | HilBilly: When you say, "Works so much better"....explain? I've never used anything but Xine. Does it play the video smoother when under a load? I'm curious. |
| 08:27.38 | canllaith | not a KDE one |
| 08:27.42 | markey | eSvn |
| 08:27.47 | canllaith | there is esvn .. cervisia is almost having support for it but not yet |
| 08:27.52 | markey | there is a kde one in the making too. but immature |
| 08:27.59 | HilBilly | it doesn't lock up like xine does |
| 08:28.07 | davidhouse | thankss markey, canllaith. |
| 08:28.08 | HilBilly | and handles every format you throw at it |
| 08:28.26 | HilBilly | and can plug in all sorts of options on the command line |
| 08:28.34 | markey | yes, we know that :) |
| 08:28.35 | HilBilly | plus has a great encoder |
| 08:28.37 | markey | we've all used mplayer |
| 08:29.12 | HilBilly | I was explaining for johnny69 there, markey |
| 08:29.15 | markey | ok |
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| 08:33.22 | odat | is gaim still the best messenger ? |
| 08:34.48 | gregday | kopete rocks |
| 08:35.16 | odat | :) just getting used to some new apps so i have question lol |
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| 08:35.58 | fatejudger | does anyone know how to sort the KMenu items by name? |
| 08:37.13 | zorba64 | fatejudger: drag and drop in kmenuedit by hand...? |
| 08:38.14 | fatejudger | are you kidding me? |
| 08:38.24 | zorba64 | nope |
| 08:38.31 | odat | just cleaning out some apps from this distro can i do without kaboodle? |
| 08:38.32 | fatejudger | you're telling me that finally Windows has something that KDE doesn't? |
| 08:38.43 | odat | i mean its not like bad ass or anything right? |
| 08:39.56 | thiago | odat: yes |
| 08:39.57 | zorba64 | I am suggesting the best way is by hand...with a ? after it...for anyone that may know of a better way |
| 08:40.28 | odat | thiago: its is good or i can do without it :) ? |
| 08:40.56 | thiago | odat: you can do without it |
| 08:41.26 | odat | k i take it i should use kaffiene instead |
| 08:41.53 | thiago | odat: no |
| 08:42.04 | thiago | I can't recommend kaffeine |
| 08:42.09 | fatejudger | why? |
| 08:42.12 | fatejudger | Kaffeine is awesome |
| 08:42.14 | thiago | and erasing kaboodle will save you some ... 10k |
| 08:42.18 | thiago | 100k |
| 08:42.23 | thiago | fatejudger: it makes Konqueror crash |
| 08:42.29 | fatejudger | not the new one |
| 08:42.47 | fatejudger | the .6-1 |
| 08:42.48 | odat | its not really for space it more about just being minimalistic |
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| 08:43.46 | spiral | hi |
| 08:45.44 | gregday | what are some possible reasons kcookiejar wouldnt be able to start? |
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| 08:46.20 | odat | is kpdf better than adobe's pdf |
| 08:46.27 | gregday | odat: extremely |
| 08:46.42 | odat | well you know adobe has a new linux version out |
| 08:47.15 | markey | "Adobix 2.0" |
| 08:47.17 | gregday | yes and it's horrible |
| 08:47.18 | markey | ;) |
| 08:47.26 | gregday | kpdf blows away everything else |
| 08:47.36 | gregday | kpdf is the first reader that made me not hate the PDF format |
| 08:47.56 | odat | will it link up with firefox? |
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| 08:48.04 | odat | and / or embed |
| 08:48.04 | gregday | i dont think so |
| 08:48.09 | gregday | works fine with konqueror though |
| 08:48.26 | odat | hmm did konqueror ever solve thier plugins issues? |
| 08:48.30 | thiago | odat: kpdf offers a KPart |
| 08:48.48 | thiago | if firefox can load KParts, then it's able to embed KPDF |
| 08:48.55 | thiago | can it? |
| 08:49.13 | odat | dunno |
| 08:49.39 | odat | i heard konqueror has problems with java and flash |
| 08:49.49 | thiago | works fine here |
| 08:49.54 | thiago | I have no need for firefox |
| 08:50.17 | odat | how did you set it up for konqueror? |
| 08:50.39 | gregday | konqueror java and flash work fine for me |
| 08:50.42 | thiago | set what up? |
| 08:50.45 | thiago | java and flash? |
| 08:50.45 | odat | flash auto sets it self up for firefox but i don't think it does for konqueror |
| 08:50.59 | odat | yea |
| 08:51.03 | Tm_T | :/ |
| 08:51.07 | gregday | knetattach/knetattach.cpp:36:83: /home/gregday/devel/kde/branches/3.5/kdebase/knetattach/knetattach.ui.h: No such file or directory |
| 08:51.14 | gregday | the file exists though :\ |
| 08:51.41 | thiago | konqueror can load firefox's plugins |
| 08:51.45 | thiago | so it'll find flash |
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| 08:52.11 | odat | but do i need to have firefox installed so that konqueror can find its plugins? |
| 08:52.34 | thiago | no |
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| 08:53.14 | odat | than what do i need to do in order to get those both working under konqueror? |
| 08:53.39 | thiago | install them, then go to Konqueor's settings and turn them on |
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| 08:54.00 | thiago | for java, you need jre or java installed (not the firefox's xpi) |
| 08:54.13 | thiago | for flash, go to Netscape Plugins in Konqueror and have it rescan |
| 08:54.18 | odat | i installed java myself |
| 08:54.39 | odat | after i set konqueror up can i remove firefox ? |
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| 08:55.24 | thiago | yes |
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| 08:57.43 | odat | hmmm i don't think it found flash |
| 08:58.27 | jamesconf | I am trying to import Mailbox files into kmail, don't see an import option for it, and when i copy the files manualy kmail does not read them |
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| 08:59.42 | odat | no it didn't find flash |
| 08:59.44 | odat | hmmm |
| 08:59.58 | odat | maybe cuz i had firefox installed before i installed flash? |
| 09:00.12 | jamesconf | nop would not matter |
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| 09:00.22 | jamesconf | installing flash for mozilla or konqueror? |
| 09:01.03 | odat | well i would like to use konqueror if i could no reason for me to have more than one browser |
| 09:03.02 | odat | hmm java doesn't work either but works in firefox |
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| 09:03.23 | jamesconf | they are done a tad diffrently in konqueror, but much easier to set up |
| 09:03.50 | jamesconf | for java, just install and check the box to use java |
| 09:03.56 | odat | well i have java and flash installed but i;m not sure how to get konqueror to see them |
| 09:04.19 | jamesconf | just type java on a command line |
| 09:04.23 | jamesconf | same diffrance |
| 09:05.18 | jamesconf | but go into settings -> configure ... -> plugins. press the scan for plugin button, for the flash plugin might need to add the dir flash is in. |
| 09:05.23 | odat | check what box to used java? |
| 09:05.39 | jamesconf | under settings ->configure -> java |
| 09:06.18 | jamesconf | under the java tab, and be sure at the bottom the "Path to java" is set right. |
| 09:06.49 | odat | enable java globally is selected |
| 09:07.05 | jamesconf | and the last line I said is the most important |
| 09:08.01 | odat | ok the path to just java or the java plugin? |
| 09:08.24 | odat | and flash is still not being listed |
| 09:08.37 | jamesconf | java, the full jre |
| 09:09.24 | jamesconf | and back to the flash, tell it the directory the flash plugin is in, default is /usr/lib/flash or something. |
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| 09:10.39 | odat | k |
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| 09:12.19 | odat | hmmm i got konqueror to say loading java applet but nothing appears but it does in firefox |
| 09:12.56 | jamesconf | is java installed? set the path right? |
| 09:13.16 | odat | java is installed |
| 09:13.48 | odat | my path is /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java |
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| 09:15.46 | jamesconf | donno then. I seam to get that when something is not installed right. |
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| 09:17.28 | odat | just seems strange that it would work in firefox then |
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| 09:46.40 | raddy | Hello Everybody |
| 09:46.43 | raddy | Howdy |
| 09:47.13 | raddy | how to use KDE_IS_PRELINKED variable? |
| 09:47.24 | raddy | and in where? |
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| 09:47.49 | Griotte52 | bonjour ats |
| 09:47.53 | Tm_T | moi |
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| 10:09.52 | rober | hi |
| 10:10.00 | rober | how do i reset the kprint configuration ? |
| 10:10.05 | rober | i.e remove all the files |
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| 10:11.38 | Tm_T | rober: ~/.kde/ etc there's something kprint related? |
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| 10:12.14 | rober | Tm_T: yup, i deleted everything realted to kprint there, but now my printer doesn't work |
| 10:12.29 | Tm_T | :o |
| 10:12.36 | Tm_T | not good? |
| 10:12.49 | Tm_T | sorry, but I'm laughing =) |
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| 10:13.43 | rober | Tm_T: laughing is good for you health, keep up the good work! |
| 10:14.02 | Tm_T | rober: yeah, I'm tired and bored |
| 10:14.05 | Tm_T | sorry |
| 10:14.20 | Tm_T | ok, can you configure your printer again? |
| 10:14.31 | rober | yes, i configured it again after deleting the kprint config |
| 10:14.40 | Tm_T | take that plain working configure and backup it |
| 10:14.47 | rober | but now cups refuses to work, it says: client-error-config |
| 10:14.51 | Tm_T | :/ |
| 10:14.56 | Tm_T | ok |
| 10:15.24 | Tm_T | well, I have never used printer in KDE so I'm not the best advisor... |
| 10:15.25 | Tm_T | =) |
| 10:15.38 | rober | ^_^ |
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| 10:16.26 | Tm_T | "use that large axe, just smash hard" |
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| 10:22.55 | skayb | Hi@all |
| 10:24.08 | Tm_T | moi |
| 10:24.30 | skayb | wie erst aufgestenden :-) |
| 10:24.48 | Tm_T | you talar englese? |
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| 10:25.44 | skayb | du you speak Englisch Tm_T |
| 10:26.00 | Tm_T | oh yes |
| 10:26.06 | skayb | and German |
| 10:26.26 | Tm_T | nnope |
| 10:26.30 | Tm_T | should I? |
| 10:26.49 | Tm_T | miksi vitussa as we say here in finland |
| 10:26.58 | fangel | Tm_T: depends... you wan't help or just spam the channel? |
| 10:27.27 | Tm_T | fangel: uh, well, mostly help? |
| 10:27.39 | fangel | then I would suggest english ;) |
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| 10:27.50 | Tm_T | yeah, me too :) |
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| 10:30.00 | Tm_T | yeah, I'm sometimes a bit nasty, has something to do with my sense of humour |
| 10:30.22 | fangel | ;) |
| 10:31.02 | Tm_T | as you might noticed =) |
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| 10:57.38 | paikan | is kde-look site down? |
| 10:59.19 | canllaith | yes |
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| 11:00.09 | StevenR-lappy | hows u today canllaith |
| 11:00.11 | StevenR-lappy | ? |
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| 11:03.54 | GoGi | I have a problem with konqueror. I have this javascript used in <form onSubmit="return clearIt(this)" |
| 11:04.24 | GoGi | function clearIt(formular) { formular.submit(); formular.input.value=""; return false; } |
| 11:04.32 | GoGi | for some reason the form always sends input = "" |
| 11:04.42 | GoGi | although input="" is only set AFTER formular.submit() |
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| 11:11.11 | rd | hallo? |
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| 11:35.53 | BC-bd | hi |
| 11:36.54 | BC-bd | i am having a problem with gtk applications (planner to be specific). the buttons are awfully big and waste lot of space due to padding. I tried hacking the .gtkrc-2.0 et all, gtk-theme-switch did not help. any ideas? |
| 11:41.20 | galaxy | hmm this is about kde here. |
| 11:41.25 | galaxy | planner is a gnome application. |
| 11:41.46 | galaxy | you should consider switching to a KDE app that offers gantt diagrams and schedules and workflow managing. |
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| 12:09.13 | root | hallo |
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| 12:10.13 | root | kennt eigentlich einer von euch den emule-irc-server?? |
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| 12:13.21 | davidhouse | kde-apps.org down? |
| 12:13.22 | tango_ | is there a dev-specific channel or can I talk here? |
| 12:13.36 | tango_ | I was reading http://commit-digest.org/?issue=sep22005&clearall and noticed an interesting tidbit |
| 12:13.59 | tango_ | "Many in the past raised the concern that you don't need kicker on Windows" |
| 12:14.21 | tango_ | actually, on the contrary, I was thinking that a full KDE system could happily replace the current Windows interface |
| 12:14.27 | tango_ | wouldn't this need the kicker too? |
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| 12:37.26 | madpenguin8 | how do I get this dialog to go away that says you can't add yourself to your contact list in kopete? |
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| 12:42.00 | SuporteTecnicoID | Estaremos a disposição para Suporte Tecnico em scanners e linux kurumin ! |
| 12:42.38 | HnZeKtO|work | irc-spam? |
| 12:44.35 | moxilo | HnZeKtO|work, yes |
| 12:44.46 | HnZeKtO|work | nice, /ignore rules |
| 12:45.12 | moxilo | SuporteTecnicoID!*@* added to ignore list. 8P |
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| 12:49.17 | schmidtma | some1 here using konverstation? and maybe cann tell me how to auto auth with q on qnet ? |
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| 12:54.54 | bni | I have enabled composite extension, drop shadows and transparency is working fine, but when I select a schema in konsole that has transaparent background I am still getting the old fake transparency. Can I enbale composite support in konsole? I remember seeing screeenshots of that some time ago so its possible right? Using Debian 3.4.2 KDE packages. |
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| 12:55.58 | benJIman | bni: you can set application specific transparency with kwin |
| 12:56.24 | benJIman | right click title -> advanced -> special application settings -> preferences -> active/inactive opacity |
| 12:57.13 | bni | yes, but then the whole window becomes transparent not only the text area, thanks for the suggestion tho |
| 12:57.57 | benJIman | ah don't know of any way todo just the text area , in kde 3.5 you can make just the title bar transparent, don't think you can do the other way round though |
| 12:58.59 | bni | i remember seeing som very nice screenshots of konsole months ago that had this, but maybe it was patched to make it possible |
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| 13:05.35 | satempler | Damn I am board |
| 13:06.03 | satempler | Is any one in here |
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| 13:14.06 | kYuZz | hi all, how can i lock my session from the command line or via DCOP? |
| 13:14.43 | kYuZz | i have got an italian version of KDE, so i don't know the english expression for what i want to do... |
| 13:15.35 | kYuZz | however i lock my session by using the kde menu, there is a blue icon with a padlock |
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| 13:16.30 | annma | what is the command to lock a session? |
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| 13:17.29 | kYuZz | i mean when the screensaver starts and you must type your password for being able to use your computer again |
| 13:17.49 | annma | I thought you want to lock your session with dcop |
| 13:17.56 | kYuZz | yes |
| 13:17.58 | annma | what exactly do you want? |
| 13:18.13 | annma | I ask you if you know the command to lock a session? |
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| 13:18.41 | kYuZz | i want to create a keys combination to lock the screen |
| 13:18.57 | kYuZz | e.g.: Ctrl+Shift+L |
| 13:19.47 | annma | yes, this is the default |
| 13:19.51 | annma | it's already there |
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| 13:19.59 | annma | look in KControl |
| 13:20.12 | annma | you can change it to whatever you want |
| 13:20.56 | annma | kYuZz: in KControl you have that |
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| 13:21.40 | kYuZz | ghghg |
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| 13:21.59 | annma | kYuZz: ??? |
| 13:22.05 | kYuZz | annma: ctrl+shift+L doesn't do anything on my system |
| 13:22.16 | annma | kYuZz: look in KCOntrol |
| 13:22.19 | kYuZz | ok |
| 13:22.45 | annma | Regional & accessibility -> Keyboard shortcuts |
| 13:22.48 | annma | global tab |
| 13:23.08 | annma | Desktop -> lock sesssion |
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| 13:31.10 | kYuZz | thank you annma |
| 13:31.21 | annma | you're welcome |
| 13:32.10 | kYuZz | the last question... |
| 13:32.17 | kYuZz | i want to write a script |
| 13:32.23 | kYuZz | that locks the session |
| 13:32.29 | kYuZz | how can i do that via dcop? |
| 13:33.01 | annma | dcop kdesktop default lock |
| 13:33.06 | annma | not totally sure |
| 13:33.48 | annma | hmm, not lock |
| 13:34.29 | annma | ah, found it |
| 13:34.44 | benJIman | dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock |
| 13:34.50 | annma | dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock |
| 13:34.55 | annma | ;) |
| 13:35.01 | annma | here you go! |
| 13:35.31 | annma | at first I avoided using kdcop |
| 13:36.00 | kYuZz | gotcha |
| 13:36.09 | kYuZz | thanks again, annma |
| 13:36.28 | annma | and benJIman |
| 13:36.38 | annma | who baked me up |
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| 13:53.33 | mobtek | bah is kde-apps.org still down? |
| 13:53.38 | madpenguin8 | yes |
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| 13:55.12 | titou | hi |
| 13:55.53 | titou | does it exist a KDE software to lock / unlock ssh keys like ssh-add ? |
| 13:56.19 | titou | ie a software which is located in the systray so keys could be easily lock or unlock ? |
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| 14:00.19 | titou | i don't think so :( |
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| 14:11.25 | jong | titou: I was looking for something like that as well |
| 14:11.48 | jong | titou: now I'm using gentoo's keychain (available for other distro's and platforms as well) |
| 14:11.49 | titou | i'm developing it |
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| 14:12.32 | titou | it will be just a front-end for ssh-add |
| 14:14.45 | jong | well, wouldnt it be better to have a system such as kgpg which integrates all of the keymanagement |
| 14:14.51 | jong | maybe even extending it |
| 14:15.07 | titou | i don't think it would be a good idea |
| 14:15.20 | titou | one application for one task is the best thing to do ! |
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| 14:21.47 | jong | titou: true, but something akin to kgpg would be great |
| 14:22.23 | Phroziac | I don't think this is *completely* off-topic, but I don't know of another channel to ask it in :P. Is the X window system logo gfdl or gpl by any chance? |
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| 14:31.40 | oGALAXYo | Phroziac: join #freedesktop and ask there.. |
| 14:31.49 | oGALAXYo | Phroziac: you find dozens of XOrg developers there. |
| 14:32.25 | Phroziac | Thanks. |
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| 14:35.33 | lunitik | Anyone know how to make Konversation auto identify on Freenode? |
| 14:36.35 | apokryphos | lunitik: edit the default identity (or another one), and under "Auto-identify" put nickserv, and your user pass |
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| 14:37.02 | lunitik | apokryphos: ahh... hey... thanks :) |
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| 14:40.34 | lunitik | apokryphos: is it normal that it would seem to try twice? it accepted the password, then immediatly told me "[Notice] -NickServ- You have already identified"... |
| 14:41.04 | apokryphos | It's always done that for me, yes. |
| 14:41.20 | apokryphos | I think sometimes it's down to channels you're in (i.e. if you have to be registered), but haven't checked |
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| 14:42.00 | lunitik | apokryphos: I'm joining 2 channels automatically... so maybe... (#opensuse, and #kde) |
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| 14:42.55 | apokryphos | could be; in any case, it's not really a problem (at least, I never notice it, and if I did it wouldnt' really annoy me :P) |
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| 14:53.24 | faken_ | hi |
| 14:54.26 | faken_ | the new kde rocks hard i have here a really nice screenshot http://www.boneyourmother.com/random/481.jpg |
| 14:56.03 | apokryphos | what an idiot |
| 14:56.22 | apokryphos | no ops around? |
| 14:57.02 | apokryphos | canllaith: you here? |
| 14:57.07 | HilBilly | nice self portraits there, faken |
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| 15:00.26 | faken_ | hey u are right HilBilly that are self portraits |
| 15:01.01 | HilBilly | goes to show that even freenode is not lamer free |
| 15:01.15 | jong | unfortunately, yes |
| 15:01.27 | jong | happens with every good irc network |
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| 15:02.18 | apokryphos | this channel in general needs more ops, though. |
| 15:05.13 | HilBilly | I have to agree .. 1 op to 187 users is a low ratio |
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| 15:13.21 | apokryphos | HilBilly: yeah. There are 12, but not always on of course, as it goes. |
| 15:13.26 | xsyy | ÈÕ£¡ |
| 15:13.33 | xsyy | ÈÕ°¡£¡ |
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| 15:54.30 | guenther_ | Using KDE 3.3.2, how could I adjust the font size? |
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| 15:54.53 | adamt | kcontrol > appereance > fonts |
| 15:54.57 | guenther_ | Wat is the usual tool called (not running KDE)? |
| 15:55.18 | guenther_ | Is there a way to mnually set this? Like, using emacs? :) |
| 15:56.12 | guenther_ | adamt: thanks, but what would be the actual called binary? |
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| 15:57.19 | guenther_ | Where is the font size stored exactly? |
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| 15:59.34 | adamt | eh.. |
| 15:59.35 | adamt | =/ |
| 15:59.39 | ulim | hello |
| 16:00.04 | adamt | i suppose you can use dcop if you need to change the font with a script |
| 16:00.27 | guenther_ | got to run -- get back to this later :) |
| 16:01.16 | ulim | I have upgraded from Redhat 9 (KDE 3.0 something) to Fedora 4 (KDE 3.4.0) and now whenever I change to another virtual desktop, all the windows of my application (Netbeans) are minimized. Any ideas who might be responsible? Kwin? |
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| 16:51.43 | ma3x | is there a way to make kmail save passwords to a file, and not always to kwallet |
| 16:51.43 | ma3x | ? |
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| 16:53.05 | apokryphos | ma3x: yes. Configure KMail -> Accounts -> Modify -> Store POP Password |
| 16:53.14 | apokryphos | though if you don't want to use KWallet at all you're better off disabling it |
| 16:53.43 | apokryphos | (you'll get "store POP password", if you're using pop only, of course) |
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| 16:54.44 | blshkv | Does anyone want to help me to fix a bug?.. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110768 |
| 16:54.58 | ma3x | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.04 | ma3x | but kwallet turns on still |
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| 16:55.46 | apokryphos | ma3x: I never really use kwallet. Doesn't it have an option to not be used for kmail or something? |
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| 16:57.46 | ma3x | apokryphos, thanks |
| 16:57.47 | ma3x | it worked |
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| 18:33.12 | gmg9 | can anyone plz suggest me a complete good mac osx like icon theme ?? |
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| 18:36.36 | Alethes | there's a really popular one but I can't remember the name of it |
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| 18:38.13 | apokryphos | and kde-look is down :/ |
| 18:39.23 | gmg9 | Alethes: plz try :| |
| 18:39.29 | Alethes | heh heh |
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| 18:39.35 | Alethes | kde-look is what you need anyway |
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| 18:39.41 | gmg9 | i have one clled slick |
| 18:39.50 | gmg9 | but thats not realy osx like |
| 18:40.21 | gmg9 | i search there but wont find a complete good one |
| 18:44.12 | gmg9 | anyway, got a go, u guys keep thinking :)) |
| 18:44.17 | gmg9 | back soon |
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| 18:59.04 | gmg9 | so anyone ?? |
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| 19:04.13 | Alethes | it starts with a b |
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| 19:04.17 | eddrex | anybody: how reliably can you expect ruby and/or python bindings to be present on a system? |
| 19:04.20 | Alethes | that's all I remember heh |
| 19:04.26 | juli | good night trom spain |
| 19:05.08 | PhilRod | eddrex: AFAIK, they don't tend to be installed by dfault |
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| 19:05.22 | juli | alguien habla español |
| 19:05.49 | juli | tengo un problemilla con la instalación del libxine |
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| 19:06.43 | eddrex | PhilRod: i am having dependency problems getting a dev environment for either python or ruby on ubuntu. i'm sure I can sort them out, but i'm worried about writing software with deps that aren't reliable |
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| 19:07.21 | BROKEN_LADDER | i need to make esd startup automatically. |
| 19:07.28 | gmg9 | Alethes: think more, may some more letters :) |
| 19:07.36 | BROKEN_LADDER | for some reason the sound control doesn't do this if i choose esd as my sound system. |
| 19:07.39 | gmg9 | ^may be |
| 19:07.52 | BROKEN_LADDER | so my question is this, where can i put a command or startup script to run it? |
| 19:07.59 | apokryphos | gmg9: you probably can't get it if kde-look isn't up, anyway. And you'd have more luck searching on there |
| 19:08.12 | eddrex | BROKEN_LADDER: why esd? |
| 19:09.35 | BROKEN_LADDER | because it works so much better than arts |
| 19:09.44 | BROKEN_LADDER | and gstreamer won't work with arts. |
| 19:09.48 | BROKEN_LADDER | and arts is dead. |
| 19:09.52 | BROKEN_LADDER | no maintainer. |
| 19:10.07 | BROKEN_LADDER | in any case; how could i make this startup script? |
| 19:10.34 | BROKEN_LADDER | i tried putting it in ~/.xinitrc but it did nothing. |
| 19:11.36 | BROKEN_LADDER | :/ |
| 19:11.39 | BROKEN_LADDER | can you help me? |
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| 19:12.20 | PhilRod | ~autostart |
| 19:12.21 | apt | rumour has it, autostart is http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html question 10.10 |
| 19:12.24 | PhilRod | BROKEN_LADDER: read that |
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| 19:13.36 | eddrex | might not start soon enough though |
| 19:13.39 | BROKEN_LADDER | ~/.kde/Autostart ?? |
| 19:13.41 | apt | [/.kde/autostart] empty. |
| 19:13.50 | BROKEN_LADDER | that doesn't work. it just opens up a text file |
| 19:13.53 | BROKEN_LADDER | instead of running it. |
| 19:14.29 | PhilRod | so try ~/.kde/env |
| 19:15.09 | BROKEN_LADDER | and just make a script that says "exec /usr/bin/esd" and put it in ~/.kde/env ?? |
| 19:15.17 | BROKEN_LADDER | what about ~/.profile ? what is that? |
| 19:15.43 | BROKEN_LADDER | i'm making waffles for breakfast. well..not making but heating. |
| 19:15.47 | PhilRod | just do what it says in the FAQ :-) |
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| 19:18.03 | mastertet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:18.34 | spiral | mastertet: nice password |
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| 19:19.13 | alexissoft | hi |
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| 19:22.20 | gmg9 | hahah, did u keep yr pass still same, hmmm, i am gonna eat yr nick :) =p |
| 19:22.23 | BROKEN_LADDER | lol! |
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| 19:24.46 | BROKEN_LADDER | mastertet dont type your password in the channel, do it in the main tab. |
| 19:24.58 | BROKEN_LADDER | you so sirree |
| 19:25.15 | BROKEN_LADDER | you should make your password be something like this: ゼゼププカカコセセズヂナヒビピフュュャャモモペヒナニヌヅツッ |
| 19:26.33 | mastertet | Hello guys, I come from the Gnome world, and it is very easy to customize and install theme in Gnome. I switched to KDE cause it seems more polish and I'm excited about what I have seen of kde 3.5. |
| 19:26.58 | mastertet | BROKEN_LADDER, never happend with other irc client I have used... |
| 19:27.12 | BROKEN_LADDER | ? |
| 19:27.16 | BROKEN_LADDER | what never happened? |
| 19:27.20 | BROKEN_LADDER | dude, you put a space before it. |
| 19:27.23 | BROKEN_LADDER | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:27.33 | mastertet | Anyway, now I try to customize kde look, and it seem complex, can someone points me to some doc? |
| 19:27.38 | PhilRod | mastertet: cool - we're glad to have you :-) |
| 19:27.48 | PhilRod | mastertet: do you mean creating your own themes, or using existing ones? |
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| 19:28.07 | BROKEN_LADDER | http://kde-look.org? |
| 19:28.08 | mastertet | BROKEN_LADDER, ha, thanks for the warning |
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| 19:28.19 | BROKEN_LADDER | yup. |
| 19:28.28 | mastertet | ok |
| 19:29.02 | mastertet | PhilRod, creating theme is something I wanna do, I noticed that some "style" need compilation, this is normal? |
| 19:31.11 | mastertet | kde-look.org seems to be down :| |
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| 19:31.43 | BROKEN_LADDER | arghh |
| 19:31.44 | PhilRod | mastertet: yes, widget styles must be compiled (unless there are binary packages for your distribution |
| 19:31.48 | BROKEN_LADDER | x-chat in kde sucks |
| 19:32.02 | PhilRod | BROKEN_LADDER: I use it vaguely successfully |
| 19:32.36 | PhilRod | mastertet: the kde-look maintainer just got home from malaga today, so I guess it'll be a little while before he can take a look to fix it |
| 19:32.44 | PhilRod | s/malaga/akademy/ |
| 19:32.47 | mastertet | Sometimes, when I change stryle... I have to restart kde so the new style is applied correctly... |
| 19:33.14 | Dhraakellian | but the margin is narrowing |
| 19:33.19 | PhilRod | mastertet: hrm, that shouldn't happen |
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| 19:33.27 | PhilRod | mastertet: kde version, distro, etc? |
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| 19:33.43 | Dhraakellian | mastertet, are these styles that were just installed? |
| 19:33.44 | PhilRod | hey annma :-) |
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| 19:34.01 | annma | hi! |
| 19:34.11 | annma | I saw a pic of you playing freesbee on the beach! |
| 19:34.25 | mastertet | PhilRod, using zenwalk (slackware based) with kde packages from kde website... but I'm going back to Slackware + official slack kde packages tonight |
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| 19:34.51 | apokryphos | Phil, you dark horse you ;-) |
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| 19:35.09 | Dhraakellian | I've found that freshly installed styles aren't always recognized by already-open apps |
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| 19:35.20 | mastertet | wow |
| 19:35.51 | Estariel | Dhraakellian: i noticed the same thing... |
| 19:36.02 | Dhraakellian | mastertet, if I were you, I'd do a little password changing |
| 19:36.07 | btl | is there a how-to for how to install kde-light? (*box+kdesktop) |
| 19:36.21 | BROKEN_LADDER | i think someone's trying to tell you something. |
| 19:36.46 | Dhraakellian | kwin is your friend! |
| 19:36.49 | BROKEN_LADDER | what is kwin? |
| 19:36.54 | BROKEN_LADDER | if it has anything to do with windows it's bad. |
| 19:36.57 | BROKEN_LADDER | :) |
| 19:36.58 | Dhraakellian | KDE's window manager |
| 19:37.04 | BROKEN_LADDER | oh..it seems okay to me. |
| 19:37.14 | Dhraakellian | like sawfish or metacity under gnome |
| 19:37.25 | BROKEN_LADDER | i used to use gnome for years, just because it looks so much better, but i find kde to be more configurable. |
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| 19:38.11 | Dhraakellian | not a flamewar in which I want to participate at the moment |
| 19:38.23 | annma | ;) that's why we have 2 desktops |
| 19:38.27 | PhilRod | architecture, architecture, architecture |
| 19:38.34 | annma | so everyone is happy |
| 19:38.36 | BROKEN_LADDER | how do you change your password? |
| 19:38.42 | PhilRod | passwd |
| 19:38.44 | BROKEN_LADDER | ahh |
| 19:38.44 | Dhraakellian | PhilRod, say the developers, developers, developers? |
| 19:38.45 | BROKEN_LADDER | duh |
| 19:39.00 | Dhraakellian | or do you mean the nickserv password? |
| 19:39.10 | BROKEN_LADDER | yeah |
| 19:39.13 | BROKEN_LADDER | nickservr |
| 19:39.20 | apokryphos | kde-look is up! |
| 19:39.26 | BROKEN_LADDER | no kidding? |
| 19:39.32 | BROKEN_LADDER | i've been there before. of course it's up. |
| 19:39.47 | jcurry | is there a way to show a window a specific window with dcop? show() and raise() don't seem to work, I'm assuming because of my focus-stealing setting... |
| 19:39.49 | BROKEN_LADDER | it's been up for a couple years now. |
| 19:40.15 | apokryphos | The server's been down for a good portion of today |
| 19:40.30 | BROKEN_LADDER | oh. |
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| 19:40.44 | annma | jcurry: what line exactly do you use? |
| 19:40.53 | Xorlev | Is kirqd a KDE process? |
| 19:41.25 | annma | kirqd, hmmm, let me look |
| 19:41.25 | Dhraakellian | BROKEN_LADDER, /msg nickserv help |
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| 19:41.41 | Xorlev | Or it might be kernel. |
| 19:41.55 | annma | not KDE, no |
| 19:42.04 | annma | I don't have it and I have quite a lot of kde |
| 19:42.19 | jcurry | annma, i use 'dcop konqueror-xxxx konqueror-mainwindow#1 raise' |
| 19:42.23 | Xorlev | I'm curious why a process managing irqs would be taking 87% of one of my CPUs |
| 19:42.35 | Xorlev | 846 root 25 0 0 0 0 R 87.0 0.0 877:46.39 kirqd |
| 19:42.35 | Dhraakellian | IRQ? sounds kernelish |
| 19:42.45 | jcurry | i concur |
| 19:42.47 | Dhraakellian | interrupt request stuff... |
| 19:42.52 | Dhraakellian | sounds low level |
| 19:42.57 | annma | Xorlev: ask in your #distro channel if you have that by default |
| 19:43.15 | Xorlev | Yeah, thats what I thought, but why does interrupt management take 87%? |
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| 19:43.26 | mastertet | thanks for the help, my passwd is changed |
| 19:43.59 | jcurry | annma, any idea about my problem?. |
| 19:44.17 | Dhraakellian | s |
| 19:44.31 | jcurry | annma, i wrote a dcop script to open a new tab instead of a new window in the first open konqui, but i need to bring the window into focus also |
| 19:44.32 | Dhraakellian | yep |
| 19:44.34 | Dhraakellian | he did |
| 19:44.35 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
| 19:44.40 | doctorzoidberg | is there any way to assign shortcuts for changing translucency setting of windows i.e. with ctrl+scroll up/down ? |
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| 19:45.06 | jcurry | doctorzoidberg, i believe dcop can do that |
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| 19:45.39 | jcurry | doctorzoidberg, if you are handy with scripts |
| 19:45.44 | doctorzoidberg | no, I ain't |
| 19:45.46 | mastertet | If I wanna changed the way the kicker look (colors and shading...), I must work on the style? |
| 19:46.21 | annma | jcurry: focus() maybe |
| 19:46.29 | jcurry | annma, thanks, i'll try |
| 19:46.46 | annma | in konqueror-mainwindow# |
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| 19:46.52 | annma | look at kdcop |
| 19:47.17 | jcurry | annma, it is a function that returns a bool |
| 19:47.29 | jcurry | true if it is focused, false if it is not |
| 19:47.43 | jcurry | it doesn't actually let me change it |
| 19:48.03 | annma | focusPolicy maybe |
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| 19:48.54 | jcurry | that function take an argument of type focuspolicy... |
| 19:49.07 | jcurry | and i have no idea how to give it that |
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| 19:50.21 | annma | setFocusPolicy() it is indeed, having a look |
| 19:50.28 | slisk | does any1 know how to build konqueror/embedded from cvs? |
| 19:51.00 | jcurry | hmm, even with a focus stealing policy of none, raise() doesn't work |
| 19:52.28 | jcurry | slisk, try #kde-devel, maybe? |
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| 19:52.36 | annma | cvs? |
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| 19:52.53 | msimplay | is batch transcoding possible under linux ? |
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| 19:53.11 | jcurry | i don't think konq/e is maintained anymore |
| 19:53.24 | msimplay | whats konq/e ? |
| 19:53.24 | jcurry | msimplay, a/v transcoding? of course! |
| 19:53.33 | jcurry | msimplay, konqueror/embedded |
| 19:53.41 | msimplay | how is it not ? |
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| 19:53.56 | msimplay | konqueror seems to be done really well in kde |
| 19:54.01 | msimplay | i love the interoperability |
| 19:54.03 | annma | jcurry: ok, was a bit long |
| 19:54.09 | annma | jcurry: http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/qwidget.html#FocusPolicy-enum |
| 19:54.17 | jcurry | msimplay, you asked: is batch transcoding possible under linux ? |
| 19:54.21 | annma | the focusPolicy arguments |
| 19:54.21 | msimplay | yeh |
| 19:54.26 | msimplay | how would i go about it |
| 19:54.37 | msimplay | i used to use ulead dvd factory for dvd creation |
| 19:54.39 | jcurry | msimplay, if you mean audio/video transcoding, you'd use mplayer |
| 19:54.48 | msimplay | but its simple enough process on linux |
| 19:54.51 | jcurry | specifically, mencoder |
| 19:54.52 | msimplay | but i need to batch file |
| 19:55.01 | msimplay | so i can create the mpegs and then mplex them |
| 19:55.10 | jcurry | msimplay, do you know how to write scripts? |
| 19:55.23 | msimplay | the base of the encoding would be done |
| 19:55.32 | msimplay | ah i see a script :P |
| 19:55.39 | msimplay | yeh they seem simple enough |
| 19:55.39 | jcurry | annma, thanks! |
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| 19:55.52 | msimplay | but no i've not really delved onto that side |
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| 19:55.57 | jcurry | ha |
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| 19:56.24 | PhilRod | msimplay: tldp.org will probably help you - look for something like "bash scripting tutorial" or similar |
| 19:56.32 | msimplay | Yeh good idea |
| 19:56.42 | jcurry | msimplay: i don't know of any batch-processing gui apps, but you may want to check kde-apps.org for some kde apps |
| 19:56.49 | msimplay | I know of kde apps |
| 19:56.54 | msimplay | they do a good job |
| 19:57.00 | msimplay | well theres dvdauthoring frontends |
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| 19:57.16 | msimplay | they work well but i still need to encode them top compatable mpegs |
| 19:57.20 | msimplay | to* |
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| 19:57.49 | msimplay | so i guess i'll have to write a batch script :P |
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| 19:58.04 | jcurry | annma, i think that is totally different (it is particular focus policy for a single widget)...and plus, i want this to be a bash script...do you think #kde-devel will have any idea? |
| 19:58.25 | annma | yes, maybe |
| 19:59.16 | msimplay | These batch scripts look much like php scripts |
| 19:59.20 | msimplay | i mean bash |
| 19:59.36 | doctorzoidberg | jcurry, can I query you for a min ? |
| 19:59.47 | msimplay | was just looking through any2vob script |
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| 20:00.36 | jcurry | doctorzoidberg, yes |
| 20:00.53 | mastertet | bye bye |
| 20:01.06 | msimplay | i wonder if linux will have a ulead dvd factory type application ever |
| 20:01.14 | msimplay | it seems to be lots of seperate apps mainly |
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| 20:01.25 | msimplay | suppose i could go about it myself using Kommander :O |
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| 20:01.38 | msimplay | but thats hard work :P |
| 20:02.26 | msimplay | ah they've started again :| |
| 20:02.33 | msimplay | bloody moths :| |
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| 20:03.52 | squareff | "system tray" has a bug: it expands (size) for no reasons. any idea of a solution? |
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| 20:06.19 | vmiklos | hi |
| 20:06.40 | msimplay | kbear made my system tray expand |
| 20:06.41 | vmiklos | is there a list for kde security announces? i googled around but didn't found that |
| 20:06.44 | msimplay | check if ur using it |
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| 20:06.49 | msimplay | kde 3.3 |
| 20:12.41 | jcurry | how do i make konqueror use kget instead of the 'progress dialog'? |
| 20:13.24 | annma | this is a KGet option I think |
| 20:13.38 | annma | kget asked me when I first ran it but I am on kde 3.5 |
| 20:13.43 | _smithjd | "enable integration with Konqueror" |
| 20:13.54 | _smithjd | it should be a setting in kget |
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| 20:14.22 | adamt | i just emerged kget and then konqi used it. |
| 20:14.33 | adamt | look in the plugin dialog of konqueror... |
| 20:14.46 | adamt | settings > configure extensions |
| 20:15.02 | jcurry | ok, thanks |
| 20:15.05 | adamt | kget just suck sadly. =/ |
| 20:15.14 | jcurry | i had to reinstall kget cause of the debian transition |
| 20:15.37 | adamt | i don't know why the fuck the program wants to save partial files to /home instead of ~ ... =/ |
| 20:15.55 | jcurry | yes, that makes me mad, all those .part files |
| 20:16.09 | jcurry | those should go in /tmp, or ~/.tmp, or whatever |
| 20:16.13 | adamt | yeah |
| 20:17.03 | adamt | the only good thing i could use kget was to resume downloads and rescue me from the clutter from multiple konqueror download windows :) |
| 20:18.28 | jcurry | that is the only reason i use it |
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| 20:19.11 | adamt | a transfer page in konqueror like the one in opera would be lovely |
| 20:19.40 | squareff | [retrying] "system tray" has a bug: it expands (size) for no reasons. any idea of a solution? |
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| 20:20.02 | _mark | Just wondering if anyone has any experience/advice with Konqueror? I can't seem to get "flash" to behave. It works, but "Firefox" utilizes it better. Any suggestions? |
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| 20:20.46 | jcurry | _mark, i have konq and flash working fine |
| 20:20.57 | jcurry | _mark, how is it misbehaving for you? |
| 20:21.14 | _mark | Hmmm. Let me find a sample site, then we can compare... |
| 20:21.38 | jcurry | _mark, nothing too big please, i'm on dialup |
| 20:21.45 | _mark | Ok. |
| 20:23.41 | _mark | <jcurry> Here's a goodone: www.thegreatnews.com (religous site)... It loads up, but then doesn't show anything. |
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| 20:30.21 | _mark | Woops. I disappeared. |
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| 20:33.16 | _mark | <jcurry> did you find anything? |
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| 20:35.56 | lord_rob | Hi ! How can I disable the shadow under the mouse cursor ? |
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| 20:40.33 | DexterF | hi |
| 20:40.33 | jcurry | _mark, sorry, i was in another window, and forgot about you...the site works fine for me. |
| 20:41.05 | DexterF | anyone else using baghira noticed odd display errors after upgrading to 2.6.13 or ati fglrx-8.16.20? |
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| 20:42.26 | _mark | Hmmm... I am using kubuntu (debian) and I installed swflashplayer fromthe .deb file. I have even checked switching the 'identity'. it won't load. |
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| 20:45.13 | jcurry | _mark, debian sid, with flashplugin-nonfree from the repo...i bleieve ubuntu has something like that too |
| 20:45.22 | jcurry | _mark, where did you get the deb from? |
| 20:45.53 | _mark | _jcurry, I can't recall. What does "debian sid" mean? |
| 20:46.06 | jcurry | _mark, unstable branch of debian |
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| 20:46.37 | _mark | _jcurry, can you paste the link? |
| 20:46.43 | jcurry | _mark, uninstall that deb, then do a 'apt-cache search flash', and install the one that has 'nonfree' in the name |
| 20:46.57 | _mark | _jcurry, will do. |
| 20:47.05 | jcurry | _mark, i use debian, from debian.org |
| 20:48.00 | PhilRod | anyone think PDF generation of the KDE docs would be a cool feature? |
| 20:48.25 | dystopianray | yeah that sounds alright? |
| 20:48.33 | jcurry | sounds good |
| 20:48.43 | jcurry | maybe a 'generate pdf' link? |
| 20:48.46 | apokryphos | PhilRod: I think it would be nice, and really professional, but what would its uses be? |
| 20:48.54 | PhilRod | right, I have it nearly working - I need someone to check my instructions (ten minute job) |
| 20:49.05 | PhilRod | apokryphos: it's been requested by a few people |
| 20:49.07 | apokryphos | PhilRod: right here :) |
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| 20:49.39 | PhilRod | http://users.ox.ac.uk/~chri1802/kde/pdf-stuff/pdf-instructions.html |
| 20:50.01 | PhilRod | those should be sufficient - anything missing, unclear or not working, tell me |
| 20:50.17 | _mark | _jcurry, I already have the "nonfree" plugin installed. "flashplugin-nonfree"I also have libflashswfplayer. Wonder if I should uninstall it? |
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| 20:51.32 | jcurry | _mark, try it |
| 20:52.25 | dystopianray | install gplflash cvs :D |
| 20:53.09 | _mark | _jcurry, doing itnow.will get backtoyou. |
| 20:53.29 | _mark | _dystopianray, will try that if it doesn't work1 |
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| 20:55.00 | guenther_ | Using KDE 3.3, is there a way to *manually* edit a file of some sort to adjust the font settings? |
| 20:55.41 | guenther_ | Where are font settings stored exactly? Which file? |
| 20:56.05 | PhilRod | ~/.kderc |
| 20:56.26 | PhilRod | but just install kcontrol and make life easy for yourself |
| 20:56.32 | PhilRod | (and for us) |
| 20:56.45 | guenther_ | PhilRod: Interestingly, I don't have that dir... |
| 20:56.48 | guenther_ | HAHA |
| 20:57.16 | dystopianray | lol |
| 20:57.33 | guenther_ | Yeah, most folks tend to give a very similar advice on GNOME and questions like this... |
| 20:57.53 | PhilRod | for pretty good reasons, too |
| 20:58.01 | guenther_ | PhilRod: I don't use KDE as a Desktop, just a few apps. |
| 20:58.17 | guenther_ | Well, I'm nt afraid of messing with XML files. :) |
| 20:58.27 | guenther_ | Anyway, I'll ra to install it. thanks. |
| 21:00.49 | guenther_ | s/ra/try/; # ra? |
| 21:01.47 | arrummzen | How can I make my wall paper streach over all my monitors rather than being shown on each one individualy? |
| 21:02.33 | jcurry | _mark, i gotta go, sorry |
| 21:02.38 | jcurry | _mark, good luck |
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| 21:03.32 | _mark | _Jcurry & _dystopianray, using the non-free didn'tchange anything. I am currently uninstalling all of the "flash" modules & "swf" programs. Iwill try them individually |
| 21:03.33 | guenther_ | PhilRod: 'kcontrol' is the name of the actual executable? |
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| 21:03.52 | guenther_ | Does anyone know, which Mandriva package contains this? |
| 21:03.58 | ma3x | where do you setup the deafult ie browser in kde? |
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| 21:05.08 | PhilRod | guenther_: yes, and "kdebase" probably |
| 21:05.22 | ma3x | PhilRod, any idea for my queston? |
| 21:05.24 | PhilRod | ma3x: FAQ |
| 21:05.44 | ma3x | PhilRod, any idea how to do that from konsole? |
| 21:05.59 | ma3x | http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/ |
| 21:06.02 | ma3x | what entry from there? |
| 21:06.44 | PhilRod | section "Non-kde apps" |
| 21:06.48 | ma3x | PhilRod, help pls |
| 21:06.51 | PhilRod | can't remember the number |
| 21:06.56 | PhilRod | I just did - be patient |
| 21:06.59 | ma3x | okay |
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| 21:07.32 | ma3x | uhm thats fine ther |
| 21:07.38 | ma3x | i must set it up from konsole |
| 21:07.43 | guenther_ | PhilRod: thanks |
| 21:08.53 | PhilRod | ma3x: why? |
| 21:09.08 | ma3x | PhilRod, because still it opens some stuff with konq |
| 21:09.14 | ma3x | PhilRod, another question for you |
| 21:09.42 | ma3x | how can i setup arts NOT to manager my sound? |
| 21:09.51 | ma3x | I mean where do you setup this kind of stuff? |
| 21:10.13 | PhilRod | ~kde-no-arts |
| 21:10.18 | PhilRod | in the KDE control center |
| 21:10.29 | ma3x | ma3x 7570 0.5 0.7 13936 7552 ? R 23:14 0:00 /usr/bin/artsd -F 6 -S 256 -a alsa -d -b 16 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f |
| 21:10.29 | ma3x | this process starts always |
| 21:10.31 | ma3x | and its going me crazy |
| 21:10.37 | ma3x | what is it |
| 21:10.41 | ma3x | the process i mean? |
| 21:10.53 | PhilRod | artsd controls sound for KDE apps. If you don't know what it is, leave it |
| 21:11.12 | ma3x | PhilRod, where do you see hthat kde~no~arts?| |
| 21:11.29 | ma3x | PhilRod, im killing the process and it shows up always |
| 21:11.30 | PhilRod | ~kde-no-arts |
| 21:11.33 | ma3x | for some bloody reason |
| 21:11.40 | PhilRod | it's started at KDE startup |
| 21:11.43 | ma3x | PhilRod, under which menu? |
| 21:11.54 | PhilRod | and by any KDE apps when they need to play a sound |
| 21:12.26 | ma3x | PhilRod, im not copying ya |
| 21:12.36 | ma3x | what is ~kde-no-arts? |
| 21:12.41 | ma3x | where do you find that? |
| 21:12.44 | ma3x | im in the control center |
| 21:13.00 | ma3x | there you have like appereance and themes, desktop....... under which one? |
| 21:13.46 | guenther_ | GAR |
| 21:13.51 | PhilRod | things starting with "~" are commands for the bot that lives here |
| 21:13.58 | ma3x | hooooooooooooooooohhhhh |
| 21:14.03 | ma3x | how the hell was i supposed to know that |
| 21:14.10 | guenther_ | Now I do have kcontrol, but there are abut no options. |
| 21:14.12 | ma3x | okey dokey |
| 21:14.18 | ma3x | ~kde-no-arts |
| 21:14.32 | guenther_ | What do I need in addition to kcontrol to adjust the font size? |
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| 21:15.03 | apokryphos | guenther_: perhaps also in the app |
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| 21:15.33 | guenther_ | apokryphos: Sorry don't get that. |
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| 21:15.52 | guenther_ | I belive, k3b does respect KDE font settings... |
| 21:15.55 | apokryphos | guenther_: the application might have settings for the font size, in it. |
| 21:15.59 | ma3x | PhilRod, ain't workin!!! |
| 21:16.01 | ma3x | ~kde-no-arts |
| 21:16.16 | guenther_ | apokryphos: I want to adjust the entire UI, including menus... |
| 21:16.46 | guenther_ | The KDE Control Center I got just has no settings to adjust the font size at all... |
| 21:17.13 | PhilRod | ma3x: the bot doesn't know that one. GIYF |
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| 21:17.34 | PhilRod | guenther_: distro? |
| 21:17.57 | guenther_ | PhilRod: Mandriva LE 2005 |
| 21:19.22 | PhilRod | guenther_: did you install the kdebase package? are there no entries in the control center? |
| 21:19.48 | guenther_ | Nope, just 2 |
| 21:19.59 | ma3x | PhilRod, so why you told me a trigger command for the bot, and he doesnt know that |
| 21:20.08 | guenther_ | Components / KDE Resources Conf. and K3bSetuo |
| 21:20.35 | guenther_ | PhilRod: Yes, that's what I did -- nstalling kdebase plus deps |
| 21:21.02 | PhilRod | ma3x: because I thought he might know |
| 21:21.13 | ma3x | PhilRod, okay what do you suggest now? |
| 21:21.33 | PhilRod | ma3x: that you search google for "kde without arts" or something similar |
| 21:21.36 | PhilRod | ~without-arts |
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| 21:30.07 | squareff | [retrying] "system tray" has a bug: it expands (size) for no reasons. any idea of a solution? |
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| 21:54.14 | _mark | Hello,all.I finally got my flashplayer working correctly. I had to go into "konqueror...settings....configure konqueror....plugins, then delete all the plugins directories and start over. I installed flashplayer-nonfree, then added the directory to the plugin list. works perfectly. |
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| 21:55.50 | _mark | One site still doesn't work though: http://www.disney.go.com/disneychannel/index.html /// it works fine in firefox, but won't load upin konqueror. I have tried to mask the identity, but nothing helps. |
| 21:58.01 | _mark | Any suggestions? |
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| 21:58.52 | Alethes | find a better site :P |
| 21:59.50 | _mark | Ha ha... It's for the kids.... can you get it towork under konqueror? |
| 22:00.35 | Alethes | I don't even have flash installed, so no idea |
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| 22:01.23 | spiral | _mark: works for me in konqueror |
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| 22:01.52 | _mark | hmmm... how do you have your identity set? |
| 22:02.10 | spiral | _mark: no user agent at all |
| 22:02.51 | _mark | _spiral, do you tell your browser to 'sendidentification' or not? |
| 22:02.58 | spiral | _mark: not |
| 22:03.10 | _mark | ok. I'll try that. |
| 22:03.17 | spiral | _mark: 'right |
| 22:03.19 | Alethes | I send konq 'cause I want to make devs aware that it's being used on their site |
| 22:03.44 | spiral | Alethes: I would do so if ubuntu's user agent for konqui wasn't so precise... |
| 22:03.56 | Alethes | you can modify it |
| 22:03.59 | spiral | I don't like the fact that it even precises the .deb version |
| 22:04.09 | spiral | Alethes: I didn't find how to do so |
| 22:04.27 | _mark | _spiral, thanks. it works fine now! My kids thank you! |
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| 22:04.47 | Alethes | under browser identification, you should have checkboxes for OS name, platform name, machine type, and add language info |
| 22:05.09 | spiral | Alethes: none of them is enabled, but it still tells the .deb version & so on |
| 22:05.23 | Alethes | why is that a prob anyway? |
| 22:05.26 | Alethes | just curious |
| 22:05.56 | spiral | Alethes: just a question of security, if a failure has to be exploited, it's easier with a very accurate user agent... |
| 22:06.07 | Alethes | gotcha |
| 22:06.09 | spiral | so I'dd like my ua to say "konqueror", but not to be more precise |
| 22:06.24 | Alethes | I imagine it's easy to just set it to whatever you want |
| 22:06.51 | spiral | Alethes: this should be, but I don't find any option for this |
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| 22:08.50 | jmg | in konsole once i have detached a session, how do i reattach??? |
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| 22:09.44 | dtb | *cry* im playing around with an old kde install. lost all my settings |
| 22:10.00 | dtb | ie: click the "Home" button and an 'open with' dialogue pops up |
| 22:10.10 | dtb | nothing in my kde menu |
| 22:10.16 | dtb | nor the task bar |
| 22:10.29 | dtb | how can i work at setting all these back to a default ? |
| 22:10.58 | dtb | s/task bar/panel/ |
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| 22:26.58 | DexterF | anyone else using kopete and some users appear offline but they are not? |
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| 22:34.44 | netstar | I am using KDE 3.4.2, however, I cannot seem to be able to theme KDM. Am I doing something wrong? |
| 22:35.00 | apokryphos | netstar: well, what are you doing to theme it? |
| 22:35.21 | netstar | Well there's no theme-like option...only able to do what was possible previously. |
| 22:35.55 | Maneit | Is it just me or is KDE3.5-alpha kinda laggy at times? :> |
| 22:35.57 | apokryphos | netstar: to create a theme i.e. download it from kdelook.org, and then you have to point to it in the kdmrc file |
| 22:36.06 | netstar | apokryphos, I am pointing to it... |
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| 22:36.19 | netstar | Theme=/opt/kde/share/apps/kdm/themes/login-scan-fusion in the global kdmrc |
| 22:36.45 | apokryphos | it should be working then... have you double-checked that there's not anothe Theme= in that file? |
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| 22:37.02 | netstar | yes. |
| 22:37.18 | Netslayer | i screwed up my home dir somehow. When I click home it now goes to file://home/chris/xoops/index.php which doesn't exist.. and view index.html is disabled |
| 22:37.34 | Netslayer | how can i fix this? |
| 22:38.08 | apokryphos | Netslayer: kcontrol -> system administration -> Paths |
| 22:38.16 | netstar | brb let me try something. |
| 22:38.33 | Netslayer | apokryphos, Documents path: /home/chris/ |
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| 22:38.52 | apokryphos | oh wait, that's not even to specify home, hmm |
| 22:38.59 | apokryphos | Netslayer: echo $HOME |
| 22:39.10 | eliasp | Netslayer: another possibility: Konqueror-Settings --> Behaviour --> Start |
| 22:39.11 | Netslayer | /home/chris |
| 22:40.06 | apokryphos | eliasp: that's essentially only for the "Home" icon in Konq |
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| 22:40.14 | apokryphos | Netslayer: echo ~ ? |
| 22:40.17 | Netslayer | everything points to /home/chris .. very odd |
| 22:40.24 | Netslayer | same |
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| 22:40.32 | apokryphos | so in what way is that not your home then? |
| 22:40.46 | apokryphos | maybe you just changed the path of the shortcut to home, or whatever icon you're clicking on |
| 22:40.58 | Netslayer | when i click my home dir icon or go konqueror - click home it goes to file://home/chris/xoops/index.php |
| 22:41.05 | Netslayer | i don't even have an xoops folder in my home dir |
| 22:41.26 | Netslayer | even if i type in /home/chris it forwards me to that |
| 22:41.30 | apokryphos | the *home* icon? Well, Konqueror says it's not going to that |
| 22:41.36 | apokryphos | ah |
| 22:41.42 | apokryphos | did you set up a symbolic link or something? |
| 22:42.05 | MEtaLpREs | can someone help me figure out why i cant get root access while in kde? the user account im using has wheel and i can switch to su but when i try to emerge anything it tells me i need root access |
| 22:42.33 | Netslayer | apokryphos, there aren't any in my folder that look like they'd do that |
| 22:42.56 | apokryphos | if there was one it would be in /home/ |
| 22:43.17 | eliasp | MEtaLpREs: how do you try to emerge something? using a frontend like kuroo? |
| 22:43.26 | Netslayer | auh got it.. had to goto a dir that worked, hit index button (don't use) then navigate to /home/chris |
| 22:43.39 | MEtaLpREs | in konsole |
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| 22:43.44 | Netslayer | cause the button is disabled in home even if it has one or something.. buggy |
| 22:44.10 | eliasp | MEtaLpREs: what tells you "whoami" |
| 22:44.13 | apokryphos | eh? |
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| 22:44.37 | MEtaLpREs | "whoami"? |
| 22:44.38 | squareff | [retrying] "system tray" has a bug: it expands (size) for no reasons. any idea of a solution? |
| 22:44.51 | apokryphos | MEtaLpREs: in konsole |
| 22:45.01 | Netslayer | what happened to devices in the konqueror nag panel? i want a way to add folders/mounts to it.. media is pointless if nothing i have is local |
| 22:45.47 | MEtaLpREs | i dont know what you mean |
| 22:46.08 | MEtaLpREs | if i do whoami it tells me the user im logged in as |
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| 22:46.28 | eliasp | MEtaLpREs: when beeing asked for your root-pw and you type in, whoami should tell you, you're root |
| 22:46.35 | eliasp | otherwise "su" didn't work well |
| 22:46.36 | Netslayer | apokryphos, haha had an index.html in there "<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url=xoops/index.php">" |
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| 22:46.54 | apokryphos | heh |
| 22:47.13 | Netslayer | the redirection tricked konqueror and disabled the button for disabiling view mode |
| 22:47.30 | chrisid | guys how do you take a screenshot using the command line ? |
| 22:47.46 | eliasp | man import |
| 22:47.49 | Netslayer | import something |
| 22:47.56 | chrisid | ok thanks |
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| 22:48.23 | mobtek | import -w root blah.png |
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| 22:48.33 | netstar | Still KDM theming doesn't work...is there a compile-time option which isn't being set by my distribution? |
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| 22:50.12 | paikan | anyone can tell me how to be in the superkaramba khotnewstuff section? |
| 22:50.14 | aynjell | Howdy all. |
| 22:50.29 | MEtaLpREs | ok im also having a problem with not being able to change my screen resolution, its at 640x480 and it doesn't give me the option to set it for anything else, the same applies in gnome, any idea? |
| 22:50.36 | apokryphos | paikan: how to be in? How to use it, you mean? |
| 22:50.44 | paikan | no i know how to use it |
| 22:50.47 | paikan | i have made a theme |
| 22:50.56 | paikan | and uploaded it on kde-look some time ago |
| 22:51.18 | paikan | but don't know how to be in the themes that are inside the get hot new stuff system |
| 22:51.21 | apokryphos | oh, and you want to add it to khotnewstuff. Don't know, I'm afraid. |
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| 22:51.31 | paikan | yeah exactly |
| 22:51.41 | paikan | i thought that was done automatically parsing kde-look |
| 22:51.50 | paikan | but it seems not to be the case |
| 22:51.54 | paikan | so i was just wondering |
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| 22:54.50 | _eliasp | re |
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| 22:57.09 | chrisid | guys some text from things like gimp and bittorent i cant see, do you guys think its my color scheme: http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=example1ud.png |
| 22:58.18 | chrisid | hmm, yeah |
| 22:58.25 | chrisid | you think their is any way to fix that? |
| 22:58.57 | chrisid | i think their is text their but its almost the same shade of the background box |
| 22:59.11 | aseigo | probably. this may not be the best channel for that question though.. though of course someone here may coincidentally know the answer |
| 22:59.33 | aseigo | er, there may of course be someone here here who coincidentally knows the answer |
| 22:59.55 | chrisid | yeah, i ask at their channel, i was running kde and i thought it might be my color scheme |
| 23:00.10 | chrisid | hmm i think ill change the color scheme and if it still doesnt work ill ask their |
| 23:00.16 | kendhome | hmm.. knock out osama, eh? |
| 23:00.46 | kendhome | heh |
| 23:00.56 | kendhome | besides The Daily Show and that pop-up banner... i haven't really heard much about that guy |
| 23:01.01 | kendhome | (... lately) |
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| 23:03.18 | chrisid | darn it was my color scheme: Dark Blue isnt liked by gtk apps or at least gimp and gaim |
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| 23:05.06 | Netslayer | awesome more of these random files: /var/spool/ -rw------- 1 root root 1960574976 Jul 11 21:23 oooooooo.ooo |
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| 23:05.29 | dwango | is there a way to find out why a kded module won't load? (with `dcop kded kded loadModule ...`) |
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| 23:07.40 | chrisid | aseigo: i know what the problem is exactly, Dark Blue and some other color schemes makes most text a light color and no matter what the color scheme is, the little box that pops up when you have your mouse over something has a light background |
| 23:08.21 | aseigo_home | chrisid: that would be a problem with their implementation of tooltips then |
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| 23:08.49 | aseigo | chrisid: they either need to hardcode none or all colours in it |
| 23:09.41 | chrisid | aseigo: so basically since I dont know how to programm...yet, i should either live with it or get a different color scheme right? |
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| 23:10.00 | aseigo | chrisid: yes.. at least for your gtk apps |
| 23:10.27 | frb-away | colors should never be hard coded for accessibilty reasons |
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| 23:11.15 | aseigo | frb-away: that's a bit hard for tooltips which are expected to be yellow. they aren't generally controlled by the style but by the toolkit and use a colour not user defined. icky. |
| 23:11.55 | frb | that sounds like a bug |
| 23:12.32 | chrisid | well i might try to get my color scheme to make text a little bit darker so i can read text from a tooltip |
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| 23:17.26 | chrisid | by making the windows text of my color scheme a light shade of gray i can now see the tooltip boxes text |
| 23:17.57 | andkore | re: tons of people are travelling for akademy, if nobody answers, try again tomorrow <-- those techies should use Wifi! come on! ;D |
| 23:18.09 | jong | hmmm, a simple question, why does Ksysguard have no description of the axes? |
| 23:18.41 | Alethes | ksysguard is a piece of crap |
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| 23:19.14 | jong | well, its a cental piece of my system administration... do you know of a better alternative? |
| 23:19.21 | Alethes | no idea |
| 23:19.23 | Alethes | :) |
| 23:19.30 | Alethes | but it still sucks |
| 23:19.50 | jong | Alethes: are you a developer? |
| 23:19.54 | Alethes | nope |
| 23:20.00 | Alethes | if I was, I'd fix it heh |
| 23:20.12 | frb | you just volunteered to make something better |
| 23:20.28 | Alethes | heh |
| 23:20.30 | Alethes | not yet |
| 23:20.41 | Alethes | I'm busy currently, but I'm almost done with my big project :) |
| 23:20.50 | aseigo | andkore: wifi doesn't help one to catch up on missed sleep |
| 23:20.56 | andkore | heh |
| 23:21.16 | jong | Alethes: ok |
| 23:21.16 | jong | frb : I know the drill :) |
| 23:21.16 | jong | frb : and, I must say, I feel an urge |
| 23:21.17 | jong | frb : but now I am focussing on openttd and the pacman screensaver :) (and my studies) |
| 23:21.40 | chrisid | what type of vnc is the best for linux, that i can access from a windows machine? |
| 23:21.47 | benJIman | openttd is great |
| 23:21.59 | jong | Alethes: which is? |
| 23:22.05 | chrisid | ill check it out |
| 23:22.05 | Alethes | my project, you mean? |
| 23:22.10 | frb | jong: alethes is the volunteer |
| 23:22.14 | Alethes | oh, just a big website I've been working on |
| 23:22.23 | jong | frb : ack :) |
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| 23:22.39 | frb | jong: anyone who says it sucks without having an alternative, is the voluntter |
| 23:22.46 | Alethes | haha |
| 23:22.49 | jong | frb, hahaha :) |
| 23:22.50 | Alethes | I use gkrellm :P |
| 23:22.52 | frb | having issues is fine, but just outright sucking .... |
| 23:22.58 | Alethes | but that sucks too, 'cause it's not qt |
| 23:23.04 | Zxcvb | are there any plans to prevent right mouse events from being accessed by javascripts in konqueror? |
| 23:23.05 | andkore | lol |
| 23:23.12 | jong | frb, you are right though |
| 23:23.15 | frb | Alethes: what are you looking for? |
| 23:23.15 | andkore | speaking of such.. can you theme qt? |
| 23:23.24 | jong | frb, and it is not as if the windows taskmanager is any better |
| 23:23.27 | Alethes | frb: in what? a monitor applet? |
| 23:23.49 | frb | Alethes: ksysguard isn't a monitor applet |
| 23:23.59 | Alethes | s/applet// |
| 23:24.08 | Alethes | a system monnitor |
| 23:24.09 | frb | it's a task manager and system monitor, if you want an applet... there are many alternatives |
| 23:24.11 | Alethes | monitor |
| 23:24.14 | Alethes | whatever you wanna call it |
| 23:24.26 | frb | like if you want gkrellm, try KasBar |
| 23:24.33 | Alethes | I have heh |
| 23:24.41 | Alethes | it's not important enough though right now |
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| 23:24.53 | Alethes | but ksysguard still sucks :P |
| 23:24.56 | frb | then it's not important enough to bitch about, so be quiet :P |
| 23:25.14 | Alethes | frb: he asked why there aren't any descriptions on the axes |
| 23:25.19 | Alethes | I answered his question ;) |
| 23:25.36 | jong | frb, actually, it is worse |
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| 23:28.51 | jong | sorry, did I miss anything... our network is under a DDOS attack |
| 23:29.19 | frb | just the free pr0n and movies |
| 23:29.24 | jong | damn |
| 23:29.29 | jong | again! |
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| 23:32.23 | jong | frb: well, what I mean is: to be able to quickly add monitors, show data in 3D, accumulate data from different servers... its a difficult thing, but something that would make linux and possibly KDE alot more attractive to potential server users. I know what this means: why dont you write it yourself? Good point :) |
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| 23:38.34 | TR0N1C | is there a way to get rss feeds in knode? |
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| 23:40.19 | Alethes | akregator |
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| 23:44.36 | andkore | akregator is pretty cool |
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| 23:46.51 | atoi|work | hello |
| 23:46.56 | atoi|work | I am having a weird issue. |
| 23:47.27 | atoi|work | When I have a *.wpd document in my home directory or in an email... and I click on it... I get this message: KDEInit could not launch '/home/john/Documents/1001211.wpd' |
| 23:47.51 | atoi|work | now.... when I go to file associations... *.WPD and *.wpd are set to launch KWord... following the settings for the application group... |
| 23:48.00 | atoi|work | when I OPEN KWord... then I can get the file open... |
| 23:48.12 | atoi|work | but it will NOT launch from KMail or my home directory. |
| 23:48.14 | atoi|work | also... |
| 23:48.26 | atoi|work | I have tried "open with"... which seems to work... but the settings do not stick |
| 23:49.19 | atoi|work | any thoughts? |
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