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| 00:00.24 | benJIman | NoLimitz^: I think it's been fixed for 3.5 |
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| 00:02.35 | mad939 | at least a goodlooking desktop, at least for me :) |
| 00:02.36 | mad939 | http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/786/noulook2ju.th.png |
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| 00:03.07 | mad939 | a bit complicated work with the bar |
| 00:03.12 | chrisag | ummm that's a tiny picture. |
| 00:03.18 | mad939 | tiny? |
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| 00:03.29 | chrisag | shows up that way in firefox :D |
| 00:03.48 | mad939 | sorry |
| 00:03.49 | mad939 | http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=noulook2ju.png |
| 00:03.51 | chrisag | and konqueror. |
| 00:04.05 | mad939 | i copied the url of the thumbnai |
| 00:04.07 | mad939 | l |
| 00:04.09 | katsolimon | cause the other one was a thumbnail |
| 00:04.10 | chrisag | ;) |
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| 00:06.07 | npx | Has anyone compiled KDE on win32 with the native Qt Free edition? |
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| 00:14.49 | yansanmo__ | 0 MB in home? |
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| 00:23.15 | npx | Anyone here work on kde-cygwin...? |
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| 00:46.54 | [_]illogic-al | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.12 | [_]illogic-al | nm :-) |
| 00:47.21 | [_]illogic-al | I know it used to exist though! |
| 00:47.59 | Obsidian1 | could i perhaps get someone to run this and tell me what comes out: |
| 00:48.06 | Obsidian1 | grep hdc < /proc/diskstats |
| 00:48.12 | Obsidian1 | or whatever the device of your cdrom is |
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| 01:12.06 | GenesisX | any clue what the 'i' in 'kdei' stands for? |
| 01:12.27 | canllaith | internationalisation? |
| 01:12.43 | GenesisX | That might be it |
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| 01:13.55 | hydrogen | interrogation? |
| 01:13.59 | hydrogen | indignity? |
| 01:14.07 | canllaith | institutionalisation |
| 01:14.10 | hydrogen | individuality? |
| 01:14.16 | canllaith | we're going to put you away in the mental hospital for using KDE. HAHA! |
| 01:14.25 | lakcaj | Hello. Does k3b preserve file permissions when I create a data CD? I"m using k3b 0.11.20 on Debian Sarge |
| 01:14.30 | canllaith | after interrogating you and causing you to suffer indignity. |
| 01:14.32 | GenesisX | thanks :) |
| 01:14.34 | GenesisX | bye |
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| 01:14.45 | canllaith | lakcaj: I don't know if a CD's filesystem supports unix file permissions. I'd suspect not. |
| 01:14.50 | canllaith | The filesystem has to support it. |
| 01:15.02 | lakcaj | canllaith, I see, thanks. |
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| 01:16.06 | hydrogen | lakcaj, a way to get around it.. make a tarball of files with -p.. and burn that |
| 01:18.12 | lakcaj | hydrogen, good idea. I think that's what I'll do. |
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| 02:15.44 | drzoot|laptop | alright ive tried just about everything and now im stuck, can someone please point me in the direction of some docs that might tell me howto compile a kde app from svn ( the app is kpdf ) |
| 02:16.56 | hydrogen | drzoot|laptop, not sure on docs, but in a nutshell, svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/(Path here from http://viewsvn.kde.org) && make -f Makefile.cvs && ./configure --options && make && make install |
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| 02:20.35 | drzoot|laptop | yup, ive been doing all that, the bit im coming unstuck on is i get the kpdf dir from svn, then i get the admin dir from kde-common, i then copy the Makefile.common from admin to kpdf, i then run make -f Makefile.common and i get this error http://rafb.net/paste/results/mY81kN29.html |
| 02:21.33 | hydrogen | you ran Makefile.cvs? |
| 02:22.19 | drzoot|laptop | there is no Makefile.cvs in the kpdf dir from svn |
| 02:22.42 | drzoot|laptop | im getting this out of /branches/kde/3.4/kdegraphics/kpdf |
| 02:22.58 | benJIman | the makefile.cvs will be in kdegraphics dir probably |
| 02:23.19 | drzoot|laptop | ill have a look |
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| 02:24.03 | benJIman | drzoot|laptop: have a look at the kopete svn access page and adapt for kpdf http://kopete.kde.org/svnaccess.php |
| 02:24.30 | benJIman | eg replace kdenetwork with kdegraphics and kopete with kpdf |
| 02:24.31 | drzoot|laptop | benJIman: ok, found makefile.cvs, ill have a look at that page and see if i can work it out |
| 02:24.46 | grepper | benJIman: svn co -N |
| 02:24.51 | benJIman | grepper: indeed |
| 02:25.05 | grepper | er, drzoot|laptop I mean :P |
| 02:27.09 | drzoot|laptop | i see what i was doing wrong, it seems alot easier once someone has shown you what to do :) |
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| 02:43.33 | drzoot|laptop | so just to clarify if i checkout the kdenetwork dir from svn and then update the individual packages i want, and then run ../configure && make && make install it will just install the pckages that ive updated .... right?? |
| 02:43.34 | gregday | /opt/35/bin/meinproc --check --cache ./doc/kdeprint/index.cache.bz2 /home/gregday/devel/kde/branches/3.5/kdebase/doc/kdeprint/index.docbook |
| 02:43.34 | gregday | index.docbook:31: parser error : Entity 'kdeprint' not defined |
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| 02:50.19 | dreamer___ | how does one set the size of the "Trash" on KDE? (i've search google and KDE help to no avail) |
| 02:50.57 | gregday | dreamer___: what do you mean by size? |
| 02:51.28 | dreamer___ | the maximum size of the trash bin |
| 02:51.53 | dreamer___ | the place where files go when one deletes in konqueror |
| 02:52.09 | frb | he wants to limit the amount of space taken by trash like on windows |
| 02:52.12 | gregday | oh |
| 02:52.15 | gregday | that's not possible is it? |
| 02:52.36 | gregday | argh |
| 02:52.38 | dreamer___ | it is possible in windoze... |
| 02:52.47 | gregday | does anyone know how to fix the meinproc error when building kdebase/doc? |
| 02:53.06 | dreamer___ | also--- i'm sure one could somehow limit the file size... so just set it to zero--by locking it |
| 02:53.35 | dreamer___ | by locking i mean---changing the permissions--- it resides in the ~/Desktop/ directory |
| 02:57.20 | dreamer___ | i ran out of space on my home partition--- and found the trash at 3.6 GB... |
| 02:58.06 | gregday | dreamer___: then dont use trash |
| 02:58.10 | dreamer___ | since i don't usually have the desktop icons displayed--- i don't look at the trash... and it seems there is no auto emptying routine either---suppose there is some room for improvement |
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| 02:59.46 | dreamer___ | gregday: I think the feature is worth having--- makes it easy to get back things that are delete.... i just there has to be a limit to the size |
| 03:00.02 | gregday | dreamer___: send a patch |
| 03:00.40 | frb | how can I make linenumbers default in kate? |
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| 03:01.38 | grepper | dreamer___: file a bug/wishlist |
| 03:02.13 | dreamer___ | what is the URL? |
| 03:03.54 | dreamer___ | http://bugs.kde.org/ ? |
| 03:04.00 | grepper | yeah |
| 03:04.12 | grepper | I suppose you could put it inside a virtual filesystem |
| 03:04.19 | grepper | as a workaround |
| 03:05.41 | dreamer___ | bugger... one has to sign-up |
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| 03:30.35 | dreamer___ | i filed a bug report/wishlist ... |
| 03:30.45 | dreamer___ | anyhoo... cheerio |
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| 03:43.31 | Neuronios | why this ?? /home/jhan100/kdesvn/bin/dcopidl: line 16: kde-config: command not found |
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| 03:44.17 | seraph | any suggestions on a good irc and ftp application for KDE? |
| 03:48.05 | frb | for irc, kopete? |
| 03:48.29 | frb | konquerer supports ftp through the ftp:// method, and through a fish:/ module as well |
| 03:48.43 | frb | I think there might be a standalone client called kbear or something as well |
| 03:49.15 | msn | seekHim: try kvirc for irc and gftp for ftp or kbear |
| 03:49.24 | msn | seraph: try kvirc for irc and gftp for ftp or kbear |
| 03:49.32 | frb | gftp isn't kde is it? |
| 03:50.06 | seraph | gftp sucks |
| 03:50.14 | msn | not completely kde it has few gnome dependiecies.. but its good.. |
| 03:50.17 | seraph | in fact, I was writing an ftp client in C# before I switched to KD |
| 03:50.19 | seraph | KDE |
| 03:50.28 | seraph | gftp is NOT good |
| 03:50.30 | seraph | lol |
| 03:50.32 | msn | never had a prob with it in past 6years |
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| 03:51.05 | Neuronios | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:51.14 | frb | I just don't use ftp |
| 03:51.23 | frb | scp is much better |
| 03:51.32 | msn | yup |
| 03:52.13 | msn | and if really requierd good ol CLI ftp works great |
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| 03:52.21 | frb | lftp is da bomb diggidy |
| 03:52.36 | seraph | GUI > * |
| 03:52.59 | seraph | my client was going to support ftp/ftps/scp\ssh/sftp |
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| 04:23.05 | faith | Hey Yall |
| 04:23.37 | kkrizka | hi |
| 04:23.47 | faith | asl |
| 04:24.23 | kkrizka | anyone know what package provides libbind? |
| 04:24.39 | faith | nope |
| 04:24.52 | faith | I think that we are the only two talking |
| 04:27.46 | kkrizka | tiffany |
| 04:27.53 | kkrizka | whoops, wrong window |
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| 04:28.01 | faith | hey |
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| 05:46.48 | Grey | how can I make kdm start and run xdmcp without a local X server running? |
| 05:47.09 | Grey | I want to run it on a headless machine, but it keeps saying it cannot start the local server, so it will not serve xdmcp |
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| 06:08.24 | Oleg_ | what will be the next version of kde? |
| 06:08.48 | jeh | 3.5 |
| 06:09.08 | jeh | 4.0 is in the making, but still over a year away |
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| 07:42.25 | marcusU | kdesktop in recent svn won't link. The libtool link command does not seem to know that it needs to pull in libkutils |
| 07:43.47 | marcusU | I can manually add it, but I don't know why it isn't done automatically. |
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| 08:01.55 | Speedy2 | Hey all. I have a k3b question -- I'm trying to burn a DVD ISO that's located on a FAT partition. I use k3b and browse to the file to burn it, but k3b says it doesn't supprot burning of images located remotely. What gives? |
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| 08:11.12 | marcusU | Speedy2: what's the verbatim message? |
| 08:11.45 | Speedy2 | marcusU: I'm burning an image that's in my home folder, so I can't reproduce it at the moment |
| 08:11.51 | marcusU | Okay. |
| 08:12.06 | Speedy2 | marcusU: Do you know of a way to launch k3b more than once? I have two burners in my machine, I can try to replicate |
| 08:12.07 | marcusU | I was going to look through the source and see where/why it decides that. |
| 08:12.42 | marcusU | Speedy2: No, I was browsing the source a moment ago, and it appears that k3b specifically disallows more instances. |
| 08:13.21 | Speedy2 | That sux |
| 08:13.26 | Speedy2 | The error is: |
| 08:13.34 | Speedy2 | "You can only select local files" |
| 08:13.38 | Speedy2 | The dialog box title is : |
| 08:13.46 | Speedy2 | "Remote Files Not Accepted" |
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| 08:15.47 | marcusU | What version of KDE or k3b are you using? |
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| 08:16.03 | Speedy2 | marcusU: KDE 3.4.2 |
| 08:16.29 | Speedy2 | k3b: 0.12.3 (I compiled it from source of the k3b website) |
| 08:16.37 | Speedy2 | source off the k3b website rather |
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| 08:18.45 | henk | I have a ati radeon 9100 but if i run translucency and shadows it performs very slow. I whould think that my card should be able to handle it. Is that right? or is a better card required for this to run smoothly |
| 08:19.20 | marcusU | I don't see anything obvious. It looks like k3b calls KURL's isLocalFile() method to determine if it's a local file. I don't know why a FAT filesystem would act differently. |
| 08:19.46 | Speedy2 | Why does it matter if it's local or not? |
| 08:22.52 | Speedy2 | Hrm |
| 08:22.54 | Speedy2 | marcusU: http://k3b.plainblack.com/message-board/cant-burn-iso-from-non-local-file#Pp32J-TK6hnFK_zJq04XQw |
| 08:22.56 | Speedy2 | Same error |
| 08:24.02 | marcusU | And I see bug report and complaints elsewhere, too. |
| 08:24.10 | Speedy2 | http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-bugs-dist&m=111636926105419&w=2 |
| 08:24.11 | Speedy2 | Argh |
| 08:24.13 | Speedy2 | This is pathetic |
| 08:25.09 | Speedy2 | marcusU: Where in the source does it do the check? |
| 08:25.20 | Speedy2 | marcusU: It's open source, I'll just "fix" the damn problem |
| 08:26.11 | marcusU | src/projects/k3bdataurladdingdialog.cpp |
| 08:26.45 | marcusU | I think that the idea behind not burning non-local files is concern about buffer overrun (or is it underrun?) |
| 08:26.53 | Speedy2 | under-run |
| 08:27.08 | Speedy2 | Well, I have a 100Mbit switched network, I should STILL be able to sustain |
| 08:27.16 | Speedy2 | Even via SMB |
| 08:27.28 | Speedy2 | k3b should offer buffering to handle those situations |
| 08:27.55 | marcusU | It should warn you, though. |
| 08:28.53 | Speedy2 | marcusU: Line 106 ? |
| 08:29.11 | marcusU | Just search for "local files". You should see it. |
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| 08:31.46 | Speedy2 | Hey PhilRod |
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| 08:33.32 | Speedy2 | marcusU: Have you ever tried to burn an image that's remote? |
| 08:33.38 | Speedy2 | (or not in your homedir) |
| 08:33.56 | marcusU | Remote, like not on my machine? No, I don't have access to anything remote. |
| 08:34.10 | PhilRod | hi Speedy2 |
| 08:35.44 | Speedy2 | marcusU: Do you burn anything from non-homedirs? |
| 08:35.50 | Speedy2 | PhilRod: Do you use k3b? |
| 08:35.57 | marcusU | I have at time, Speedy2. |
| 08:36.18 | Speedy2 | marcusU: Did k3b crap on you? |
| 08:36.38 | marcusU | No, I think it worked, but it has been a long time. Most of the time, I just use command line tools. |
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| 08:37.59 | PhilRod | Speedy2: nope |
| 08:38.20 | Speedy2 | PhilRod: What do you use? |
| 08:38.33 | PhilRod | we get a lot of k3b questions here though - perhaps someone should start a #k3b channel |
| 08:38.46 | PhilRod | Speedy2: lots of things - kmail, knode, kopete, xchat, ... |
| 08:38.48 | Speedy2 | I'm in the k3b channel, it's dead |
| 08:38.49 | marcusU | One of the problems I have with k3b is that it does not show symlinks in the totoal. |
| 08:38.54 | pinotree | PhilRod: there's already one... |
| 08:39.09 | PhilRod | hrm |
| 08:39.09 | Speedy2 | PhilRod: I meant what do you use for CD-Writing. (KNode is great!) |
| 08:39.27 | PhilRod | Speedy2: burncd, on the rare occasions that I actually burn a CD |
| 08:41.51 | Speedy2 | marcusU: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105848 |
| 08:43.39 | marcusU | But why does it think your FAT filesystem is not local? |
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| 08:46.01 | Speedy2 | marcusU: No clue. |
| 08:46.23 | Speedy2 | marcusU: Because I browsed using the KDE file dialog, and therefore it used a KIOslave ? |
| 08:46.56 | marcusU | Maybe. |
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| 08:49.43 | ma3x | in the kde center it says 'your computer seems to have a partial acpi installation. acpi was properly enabled, but some of the suboptions were not - you need to enable at least 'AC adaptor' and 'Control method Battery' and then rebuild your kernel. Now my monitor shuts down (i'm on laptop) always after a longer time idle. I don't have dpms in the XF86Config-4. So how can I disable this? |
| 08:50.10 | Speedy2 | ma3x: What Linux are you running? |
| 08:50.34 | ma3x | Speedy2, debian unstable |
| 08:50.51 | Speedy2 | ma3x: You might want to go and compile kernel modules for ACPI for your laptop |
| 08:50.58 | Speedy2 | (compile as modules, or into the kernel) |
| 08:51.17 | ma3x | what is the name of those modules exactly? |
| 08:51.43 | Speedy2 | ma3x: You'll have to go into the kernel configuration and look, but you can just make everything in the power management section (ACPI) modules |
| 08:51.45 | Speedy2 | (to play it safe) |
| 08:52.07 | ma3x | make everything what, enable or disable? |
| 08:52.26 | Speedy2 | ma3x: You'd want to enable everything obvious for your laptop |
| 08:52.26 | marcusU | Do you want ACPI? |
| 08:52.38 | ma3x | I just want to disable the monitor shutdown |
| 08:52.48 | ma3x | so probably I want it removed??? |
| 08:53.00 | marcusU | I do't know what other affects ACPI has. |
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| 09:12.20 | Worf | did anybody ever try to move the kde config dir from $KDEDIR/share/config to /etc/kde or so? i rebuilt my kde with some different settings, this being one of them, and i have some strange issues since ( currently rebuilding stuff again to track down the cause ) |
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| 09:23.42 | chino | has anyone every thought of a feature that would allow you to wrap any taskbar app into a systray icon if desired and the applicaiton doens't offer one? |
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| 09:28.27 | mad939 | ma3x: i'm runing with acpi and if i didn't say nothing the monitor doesn't close |
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| 09:28.54 | mad939 | in Control Center is the option |
| 09:29.08 | ma3x | mad939, where exactly is that option, under battery? |
| 09:29.32 | mad939 | looking |
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| 09:30.00 | mad939 | in perfiferics |
| 09:30.25 | mad939 | look for monitor |
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| 09:31.03 | mad939 | in "Energy Control" |
| 09:31.41 | ma3x | and then what did you select there? |
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| 09:33.27 | mad939 | unmark the "enable" checkbox |
| 09:33.39 | ma3x | it was already unmarked |
| 09:33.47 | mad939 | :s |
| 09:34.05 | mad939 | there is other ways of do this |
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| 09:34.22 | mad939 | i've touched this following the gentoo power save |
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| 09:34.39 | mad939 | you have 'optimitzed' you laptop? |
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| 09:35.34 | mad939 | aja |
| 09:35.44 | mad939 | i've setting in the xorg.conf confi |
| 09:36.31 | mad939 | in "ServerLayout" i've: |
| 09:36.37 | mad939 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:36.39 | mad939 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:36.41 | mad939 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:36.43 | mad939 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:37.51 | mad939 | and in montitor i've also |
| 09:37.55 | mad939 | Option "DPMS" "true" |
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| 09:41.28 | chino | is anyone allive ? |
| 09:41.38 | chino | is there no i can iconify a window into the systray ? |
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| 09:47.13 | PhilRod | ksystraycmd |
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| 09:47.25 | PhilRod | chino: there's a section in the userguide about it |
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| 09:49.12 | chino | how where show me .!! |
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| 09:56.43 | chino | PhilRod: i cnat find it! |
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| 10:01.13 | canllaith | PhilRod: hey! |
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| 10:04.06 | PhilRod | morning canllaith :-) |
| 10:04.19 | chino | :[ |
| 10:04.24 | chino | i really dont see it |
| 10:04.33 | chino | what should i be looking for |
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| 10:06.59 | canllaith | chino: hrm you can do it with kstart I think |
| 10:07.12 | chino | whats kstart? |
| 10:07.17 | canllaith | a command line program |
| 10:07.22 | canllaith | kstart --tosystray xterm |
| 10:07.32 | canllaith | heh except there is then no use to it |
| 10:07.51 | chino | why ? |
| 10:07.57 | canllaith | try it and see |
| 10:08.06 | duffyd | hi |
| 10:08.17 | canllaith | There is an app on kde-apps.org |
| 10:08.21 | canllaith | that will minimise any app to the systray |
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| 10:08.28 | chino | yes i need that |
| 10:08.35 | seraph | whats a good video player for KDE? |
| 10:08.43 | seraph | Noatun seems very ... jerky with regard to audio |
| 10:08.45 | seraph | I can't figure it out :/ |
| 10:08.56 | seraph | and has an annoying habit of sticking around in the tray |
| 10:09.15 | duffyd | just a query, I'm running KDE 3.3.2 on Debian Unstable and just upgraded KDE and my 'All Applications' section on my KDE menu has disappeared, all my program associations have disappeared, and my Control Panel has nothing showing on the left hand 'navigator' |
| 10:09.19 | duffyd | anyone know of a resolution? |
| 10:09.24 | canllaith | chino: there is this http://alltray.sourceforge.net/ |
| 10:09.35 | duffyd | I've read the faq but doesn't help |
| 10:10.11 | canllaith | seraph: kmplayer is an mplayer frontend and pretty good - mplayer being able to play just about anything. |
| 10:10.29 | seraph | yeah |
| 10:10.34 | seraph | hmm too bad its not in apt :/ |
| 10:10.38 | seraph | will hjave to compile it |
| 10:10.45 | chino | but wait i dont everything to go to tray i just want some apps........ |
| 10:11.05 | duffyd | seraph: you ever had a similar prob to me in Deb? |
| 10:11.22 | seraph | duffyd: no |
| 10:11.27 | seraph | thats just weird |
| 10:11.31 | duffyd | grand ;-) |
| 10:11.35 | seraph | you might want to mv .kde somewhere else |
| 10:11.36 | seraph | logout |
| 10:11.48 | seraph | login and see if that helps, then move back app preferences |
| 10:11.51 | duffyd | I've logged on as a completely 'new' user with same problem |
| 10:11.53 | seraph | or something along those line |
| 10:11.54 | seraph | lines |
| 10:12.02 | seraph | duffyd: then its a debian package problem |
| 10:12.09 | duffyd | as in they had never logged in before |
| 10:12.10 | duffyd | k |
| 10:12.14 | seraph | the KDE packages themselves are having problems then |
| 10:12.21 | duffyd | k |
| 10:12.22 | seraph | check bugzilla |
| 10:12.26 | duffyd | s'pose if I upgrade my resolve |
| 10:12.27 | chino | canllaith: ? |
| 10:12.31 | duffyd | s/my/might |
| 10:12.42 | duffyd | seraph: ta |
| 10:12.44 | seraph | duffyd: yeah, just wipe that new users preferences first |
| 10:12.46 | seraph | then logout |
| 10:12.51 | seraph | upgrade and then login |
| 10:13.01 | duffyd | k |
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| 10:14.38 | canllaith | chino: go to the URL I gave you, it has an application that will send things to the systray |
| 10:14.59 | chino | yes but does it send everything i dont want that i just want one or two |
| 10:15.02 | canllaith | Read the page, don't be lazy. |
| 10:15.10 | canllaith | The page tells you about it |
| 10:15.14 | chino | im building it im just asking |
| 10:15.17 | chino | i did read it |
| 10:15.19 | chino | it said all |
| 10:15.54 | canllaith | You have to start an application like 'alltotray kedit' for it to do that |
| 10:16.03 | canllaith | if you just launch kedit normally no it wont go to the tray |
| 10:16.28 | chino | oh ok cool |
| 10:16.32 | chino | thanks |
| 10:16.45 | canllaith | yw |
| 10:18.53 | PhilRod | canllaith: do you know any chemistry terms? I'm sitting next to carsten (niehaus) and we're trying some more kalzium translation |
| 10:18.55 | jeh | hm, i need to print a single text file from within kwrite. can i somehow get rid of the header it prints? it has a date, a filename and a single long line under |
| 10:19.41 | jeh | not a banner page, it's printed on top of the actual page |
| 10:19.55 | jeh | can't seem to find any option that controls this |
| 10:20.18 | canllaith | PhilRod: some, I've already done a little bit of tidying up on kalzium |
| 10:20.23 | canllaith | PhilRod: what do you want to know? |
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| 10:48.22 | PhilRod | canllaith: aha, we've found the names of some of the tools - I'll get back to you if we find any more we don't know |
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| 10:48.35 | PhilRod | canllaith: but it's tools.xml in the kalzium source |
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| 10:51.47 | go0se | How can i change the menu button ? |
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| 10:57.24 | PhilRod | go0se: I think it's in the FAQ |
| 10:57.59 | PhilRod | but basically just find the kmenu.png and replace it |
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| 11:51.42 | henk | Should translucency run smoothly on my ati radeon 9100? or is this card to old for it? I think it should be fast enough but i cannot get it to work |
| 11:52.21 | HilBilly | I went to one of the hurricane sites with konq last night that had streaming video. Got an error message saying xine could not find wmvdmod.dll file. All the settings I could find show that video uses mplayer. What am I missing? |
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| 11:58.41 | milestone | hi all |
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| 11:59.51 | milestone | i am running ubuntu breezy and one of my apps (fwbuilder) App built upon qt3 looks like a good old linux app from the old days. My colleague runs the same app on his ubuntu breezy install and it looks great |
| 12:00.01 | milestone | which libs responsible for rendering apps? |
| 12:00.14 | milestone | so i can compare our package installations |
| 12:00.56 | HilBilly | you are both running kde? |
| 12:01.04 | milestone | no gnome |
| 12:01.10 | milestone | but kde is installed |
| 12:01.12 | canllaith | Then why do you ask in a KDE channel? |
| 12:01.16 | milestone | k3b looks great |
| 12:01.29 | milestone | because it is a qt based app |
| 12:01.45 | canllaith | It is not a KDE app, and if k3b which is a KDE app looks great .. ? |
| 12:01.59 | canllaith | Perhaps qtconfig will let you change the theme of it |
| 12:02.03 | HilBilly | if he is running gnome, I can't understand how he is getting the qt look |
| 12:02.04 | milestone | canllaith, okeeay |
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| 12:43.59 | uludag | selam millet |
| 12:44.09 | uludag | hayatımda ilk defa linuX kullanıyorum |
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| 12:47.57 | ovis | hi all : is KGst included in JuK-2.2 and is that one included in kdemultiemedia ??? |
| 12:48.40 | ovis | or do i have to compile KGst seperate as dependencie of kdemultiemedia |
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| 12:53.27 | ovis | hello any one |
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| 12:55.55 | eRaSY | hi all.. |
| 12:58.34 | ovis | jo |
| 12:59.02 | ovis | do anyone know how to install KGst |
| 13:01.05 | pinotree | ovis: depends on your distro |
| 13:01.22 | pinotree | ovis: you should better ask in #yourdistro channel |
| 13:01.30 | ovis | lfs |
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| 13:01.45 | ovis | and they sugessed this channel |
| 13:02.03 | ovis | lfs = Linux From Scratch |
| 13:02.06 | HilBilly | lfs gives you very good directions to install KDE |
| 13:02.17 | ovis | oke wait |
| 13:02.18 | dushkin | Why do the fonts on GTK stuff appear unaliased when I'm running KDE? |
| 13:02.50 | ovis | http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/kde/kdemultimedia.html |
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| 13:04.07 | ovis | HilBilly : what do you make of the installation of the dependensie ::: KGst) |
| 13:04.07 | ovis | is it included in JuK ? |
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| 13:04.08 | ovis | where can i dl the source |
| 13:04.21 | ovis | that are all relevant KDE questions |
| 13:06.20 | dushkin | Why do the fonts on GTK stuff appear unaliased when I'm running KDE? It's really annoying, since in fact, GTK works great outside of KDE. |
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| 13:09.44 | ovis | dushkin: environment variables ? |
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| 13:12.06 | xanax` | hi |
| 13:12.16 | dushkin | ovis: Good, which ones then? |
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| 13:15.27 | ovis | google |
| 13:15.30 | ovis | > |
| 13:15.32 | ovis | ? |
| 13:16.26 | ovis | thats where i would look |
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| 13:16.41 | xanax` | ovis : what's the problem ? |
| 13:17.19 | HilBilly | ovis .. I understand your question better now |
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| 13:18.24 | HilBilly | all of those are listed as optional dependencies. I would install gstreamer. Juk is included in KDE. Don't worry about this KGst |
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| 13:22.48 | ovis | http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/kde/kdemultimedia.html |
| 13:22.54 | ovis | Kdemultimedia Dependencies |
| 13:23.01 | ovis | Optional |
| 13:23.14 | ovis | KGst |
| 13:23.25 | Zeep | Hiho |
| 13:23.31 | ovis | where can i find KGst |
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| 13:26.02 | ovis | HilBilly: sorry i didnt saw your comment between the lines |
| 13:28.57 | ovis | thanks |
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| 13:39.20 | spiral | hi |
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| 13:40.56 | hej | what's mean of "Unable to contact KDED"? |
| 13:40.57 | PhilRod | hi spiral |
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| 13:41.16 | PhilRod | hej: probably that your installation is broken - when do you see the message? |
| 13:41.54 | hej | Control Center -> KDE Components, Click Service Manager |
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| 13:43.01 | PhilRod | hej: what does "ps auxww | grep kded" say? |
| 13:44.14 | hej | no kded running. okey, I have killed it be couse of 100% cpu usage. |
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| 13:44.46 | Sepho | hi all |
| 13:44.57 | hej | Okey, I will restart KDE and have a try. |
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| 13:45.24 | Sepho | where can I download Mac style for kde?? i look at kdelook.org but i don't find any |
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| 13:46.13 | PhilRod | try baghira - I think that's the mac style |
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| 14:18.35 | daved | is there any way to save the password for an smb network share? |
| 14:18.50 | Dhraakellian | 'You are not allowed to add yourself to the contact list. The addition of "102844056" to account "102844056" will not take place.' |
| 14:18.51 | daved | it's in my 'network folders' and so prompts me for a password every time i launch konqueror |
| 14:19.15 | Dhraakellian | I once added myself to my contact list with gaim. How do I get kopete to stop complaining about this every time I start it up? |
| 14:19.47 | daved | ack.. kopete |
| 14:19.48 | daved | use gaim :) |
| 14:20.05 | Dhraakellian | no |
| 14:20.08 | benJIman | Dhraakellian: doesn't complain here, I have myself on contact list |
| 14:20.21 | Dhraakellian | talk to me when gaim displays metacontacts as well as kopete |
| 14:20.38 | daved | eh? |
| 14:20.40 | daved | meta contacts? |
| 14:20.46 | benJIman | exactly |
| 14:20.47 | daved | you know you can collapse contacts in gaim, right? |
| 14:20.49 | Dhraakellian | and when gaim uses the KDE icon set for its status icons and such |
| 14:20.57 | benJIman | daved: it's not the same |
| 14:21.02 | Dhraakellian | daved, yes, and doing it that way is annoying as heck sometimes |
| 14:21.02 | daved | benJIman, yes it is |
| 14:21.27 | benJIman | no, in kopete you have one entry for metacontact and you can still select each protocol if you wish, with priority for the protocols |
| 14:21.28 | daved | you just put people together that are the same person, and ignore the fact that you have 10 usernames on 18 services for them and it just talks to whichever is avail |
| 14:21.34 | benJIman | all on one line without collapsing things |
| 14:21.38 | daved | benJIman, you can prioritize as well |
| 14:21.42 | Dhraakellian | http://sp.allalone.org/gallery/screenshots/kde_20050807_amarok_has_podcasts |
| 14:21.48 | ovis | oke what version of gstreamer is needed for kdemultimedia-3.4.1 i now use version gstreamer-0.8.10 and it screams : * You do not seem to have GStreamer >= 0.8 installed. |
| 14:22.09 | daved | prob gstreamer-devel ? |
| 14:22.28 | daved | usually the .pc files are in -devel if you're doing something thats using pkconfig |
| 14:22.49 | ovis | do i have to patch configure or do i have to downgade gstreamer ????? |
| 14:23.03 | daved | ovis, insteall gstreamer-devel |
| 14:23.43 | ovis | daved i use linux from scratch, i have the headers instaled |
| 14:23.59 | daved | ovis, do you have /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gstreamer.pc ? |
| 14:24.02 | ovis | yes |
| 14:24.10 | daved | msg me the contents of that file |
| 14:24.18 | ovis | wait |
| 14:24.36 | daved | say yes without actually looking? |
| 14:24.44 | ovis | http://pastebin.com/351928 |
| 14:25.07 | daved | and are you installing kde to prefix /usr ? |
| 14:25.17 | ovis | yes |
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| 14:25.33 | ovis | no i looked at the file 10 min ago |
| 14:25.38 | ovis | so i knew |
| 14:25.40 | ovis | ;) |
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| 14:26.16 | daved | is pkgconfig case sensitive? |
| 14:26.26 | daved | try symlinking gstreamer.pc to GStreamer.pc :) |
| 14:26.29 | ovis | mm i dont know |
| 14:26.43 | ovis | ohw wait ill get it |
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| 14:28.59 | ovis | daved nope |
| 14:29.30 | ovis | it probably need a hack in the configure script |
| 14:30.12 | ovis | or i say 0.8.0 in the version parameter of gstreamer-0.8.pc |
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| 14:40.33 | ovis | daved: the configure script wand an answer to the question if gstreamer-libs exist ... and i cant find that one |
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| 14:44.01 | metaperl | I'm looking for a nice theme for my KDE ... any suggestions? I am running 3.3.2 (Debian testing version) |
| 14:44.33 | PhilRod | see kde-look.org |
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| 14:48.23 | davidhouse | has anyone set up kopete to connect to the google talk network? |
| 14:49.09 | jaune_d_oeuf | davidhouse: yes, it's works perfectly |
| 14:49.35 | daved | is there any way to save the password for an smb network share.. its in my 'network folders' and prompts me every time i open konqueror |
| 14:50.07 | davidhouse | jaune_d_oeuf: would you mind guiding me through the setup? |
| 14:50.34 | davidhouse | i created a new jabber account, put my gmail address as the Jabber ID, entered my password, but I'm wondering if I need to change any other settings |
| 14:50.53 | jaune_d_oeuf | davidhouse: did you read that : http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google%20Talk%20support ? |
| 14:51.17 | daved | or read the setup on the google talk homepage about 'alternate jabber clients' |
| 14:51.18 | davidhouse | ah, that's brilliant. |
| 14:51.20 | davidhouse | thanks. |
| 14:51.50 | davidhouse | daved: yeah, i was looking through there, and I made some educated guesses at the values, but I got a hostname not found error. |
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| 14:53.20 | davidhouse | ah, that'd be because I put 'talk.gmail.com' instead of 'talk.google.com'. Oops! :) |
| 14:53.56 | davidhouse | everything's working. |
| 14:53.58 | davidhouse | fantastic. |
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| 15:05.59 | metaperl | PhilRod: I have been to kde-look.org but I dont know which one I'd really like... I'd like to know if any of you have gotten themes from KDE-look.org that you like... Baghira was OK for awhile |
| 15:07.15 | apokryphos | metaperl: it's worth taking a look at the most-downloaded ones, and the highest rated etc |
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| 15:07.28 | metaperl | apokryphos: which do you like? |
| 15:07.45 | apokryphos | Windowdecs and styles: I only really use Plastik or Lipstik these days |
| 15:08.01 | apokryphos | icons: RAD or Amaranth ones |
| 15:08.52 | PhilRod | I liked dotNET for a while, but I don't know if it's still around |
| 15:09.09 | PhilRod | plastik is perfectly sufficient for a graphically-challenged person like me |
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| 15:10.47 | elirips | hello. are there any graphical frontends available for gpg that integrate nicely into kde? |
| 15:11.17 | jaune_d_oeuf | elirips: kgpg |
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| 15:12.01 | elirips | jaune_d_oeuf: thank you. |
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| 15:24.27 | Tm_T | hi kdis |
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| 15:31.38 | _poison | hi =) |
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| 15:46.35 | Flendor | Hello. |
| 15:46.53 | PhilRod | hiya Flendor |
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| 15:48.33 | Flendor | Hey there Phil :) How are you? |
| 15:48.48 | annma | Flendor: Phil is in Malaga! |
| 15:48.59 | annma | te doc team is working like hell |
| 15:49.08 | Flendor | annma - Yup, he told me yesterday. I'm jealous :) |
| 15:49.13 | annma | yeah, me too |
| 15:49.17 | Flendor | How are you btw, annma? :) |
| 15:49.24 | Tm_T | annma, PhilRod o7 |
| 15:49.28 | annma | fine, the kids went back to school today |
| 15:49.32 | annma | hi Tm_T |
| 15:49.40 | Flendor | Oh. Schools start in 12th here. |
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| 15:49.49 | annma | I nearly cried when Leah went in |
| 15:49.51 | Tm_T | my school started today |
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| 15:49.59 | Flendor | First day at school? |
| 15:50.10 | Tm_T | annma: "yes! yes! freedom!" ? |
| 15:50.23 | Tm_T | ;-P |
| 15:50.23 | annma | :) cool, PhilRod |
| 15:50.28 | PhilRod | I'm within touching distance of having this ready (in English at least) |
| 15:50.38 | Flendor | Yay :) |
| 15:50.40 | annma | Tm_T: no, I hate having to prepare all the stuff in the morning |
| 15:50.43 | pinotree | PhilRod: tsdgeos will kill you for that :-P |
| 15:50.46 | PhilRod | 257 docs in KDE official modules and only about 5 with any problem |
| 15:50.54 | PhilRod | pinotree: why? |
| 15:50.56 | Flendor | Hello pinotree :) |
| 15:51.15 | annma | PhilRod: oh, what kind of problems? |
| 15:51.16 | pinotree | hey Flendor =) akademy greets you :-D |
| 15:51.23 | Tm_T | annma: ah, I see the point =) |
| 15:51.26 | pinotree | PhilRod: just joking ;-) |
| 15:51.27 | annma | PhilRod: would sanitized docs be cleaner? |
| 15:52.40 | PhilRod | annma: probably not |
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| 15:53.02 | PhilRod | I'm using the dblatex packages to convert docbook -> latex, then pdflatex to convert the latex to PDF |
| 15:53.17 | annma | weeew |
| 15:53.18 | PhilRod | so if the dblatex XSL stylesheets generate invalid latex, it breaks |
| 15:53.25 | annma | yes |
| 15:53.59 | PhilRod | so I've fixed most problems by fixing dblatex, but for some weird things I've fixed the docs instead |
| 15:54.09 | PhilRod | it's not 100% ideal, but it'll do |
| 15:54.38 | PhilRod | (100% ideal would be that any valid docbook document produces valid latex, but that's too much work for too little gain, I think) |
| 15:54.51 | annma | yes |
| 15:55.45 | frb | as long as info pages aren't the default, I'm happy |
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| 15:56.49 | annma | KDE docs are going to be the BEST ever |
| 15:57.14 | Flendor | :) |
| 15:57.27 | sedeki | are kde GPL'd? |
| 15:57.37 | annma | of course |
| 15:57.42 | frb | does that mean I get to have KLIPPY?!? |
| 15:57.50 | sedeki | i remeber trolltech had an special licence for a while? |
| 15:57.53 | frb | sedeki: long long time ago |
| 15:57.55 | frb | years ago |
| 15:57.56 | annma | sedeki: that was YEARS ago |
| 15:57.57 | Flendor | Now it's free for non-commercial use |
| 15:57.58 | sedeki | oh |
| 15:58.05 | sedeki | great. |
| 15:58.09 | annma | sedeki: look atTrolltech website |
| 15:59.24 | sedeki | will do |
| 15:59.39 | sedeki | i was just thinking about if i should learn gtk or qt |
| 15:59.53 | Tm_T | yay, any news about 3.5 release schedule? |
| 16:00.04 | sedeki | i liked kde more but if it weren't GPL'd ... |
| 16:00.09 | sedeki | like* |
| 16:00.17 | annma | well that was long ago |
| 16:00.18 | frb | I would say qt, the code and coding style needed to use it effectively are cleaner |
| 16:00.21 | annma | look at it now! |
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| 16:00.35 | annma | qt/KDE is C++, sedeki |
| 16:00.39 | annma | gtk is C |
| 16:00.44 | annma | tus language matters |
| 16:00.48 | sedeki | i know. gtkmm exist though. |
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| 16:00.58 | frb | the hoops to make GTK+ "Object Oriented" are painful |
| 16:01.26 | frb | the only way I ever programmed with gtk was with the pygtk binding |
| 16:01.29 | annma | Qt is in full swing, it's more modern |
| 16:01.32 | sedeki | kde has won alot on making it native C++; makes more programmers make apps in qt |
| 16:01.51 | annma | yes and qt4 is neat |
| 16:02.03 | frb | qhat is qt4 used for? |
| 16:02.43 | annma | it'll be used for kde4 |
| 16:02.49 | annma | it just went out |
| 16:03.20 | annma | but if sedeki chooses qt, heneeds to be aware of qt4 |
| 16:03.29 | frb | anyone know a good clear crisp unicode fixed width font? |
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| 16:05.06 | Thedoktor | anyone with skype can help me testing? |
| 16:05.31 | frb | Thedoktor: #skype? |
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| 16:07.57 | Flendor | I'm gone for now, see you.. |
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| 16:19.03 | sedeki | any qt programmer? |
| 16:19.09 | sedeki | n/m |
| 16:20.20 | freed | I found a bug on kcolorchooser, but on the bug track sys haven't entry for it, how I report it ? |
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| 16:28.12 | HilBilly | when I try to run kgpg I get this error: gpg: WARNING: unsafe enclosing directory permissions on configuration file "/home/hilbilly/.gnupg/options" |
| 16:28.27 | HilBilly | what ARE 'safe' permissions on that directory? |
| 16:28.50 | HilBilly | drwx-w---- <-- curernt permissions |
| 16:29.32 | freed | HilBilly: you dosn't have w to other |
| 16:30.14 | HilBilly | other should be able to write to that directory? |
| 16:31.41 | freed | yes the second w is for other on your own group |
| 16:32.33 | HilBilly | drwx-w--w- 3 hilbilly hilbilly 240 2005-09-01 12:31 .gnupg <-- still gives the same error |
| 16:32.42 | Tm_T | hum |
| 16:33.08 | freed | :( |
| 16:33.16 | freed | HilBilly: you must remove it |
| 16:33.33 | drac | chmod -R og-w .gnupg ? |
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| 16:36.52 | Tm_T | =) |
| 16:36.59 | Tm_T | hi drag |
| 16:37.32 | HilBilly | well .. that fixed the permission error .. but now when generating the keys, it gives me "Caught some signal .. exiting" |
| 16:39.41 | Tm_T | drac even |
| 16:39.47 | drac | evening Tm_T |
| 16:39.52 | Tm_T | goggles |
| 16:40.34 | Tm_T | drac: heh, might fnally get that keyboard what I've been seeking a month now =) |
| 16:40.48 | drac | UltraX, with wire? |
| 16:40.59 | Tm_T | yup |
| 16:41.35 | drac | http://hdr.unk.fi/~drac/desktop.png |
| 16:41.51 | Tm_T | maybe acdc & lifewire |
| 16:41.53 | Tm_T | ;p |
| 16:42.22 | Tm_T | well, all I'm missing now is adsl =) |
| 16:42.33 | Tm_T | I ate playing wit gprs |
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| 16:42.38 | Tm_T | Hate(?) |
| 16:42.49 | sedeki | drac A friend of mine has one of those keyboards. |
| 16:42.50 | Tm_T | s/wit/with |
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| 16:44.13 | drac | was using old PC102 Keytronic DIN keyboard with PS/2 converter before this. Without windows keys. |
| 16:44.23 | Tm_T | =) |
| 16:44.28 | drac | ..no turning back :) |
| 16:44.36 | Tm_T | I have pair of unitek keyboards |
| 16:45.07 | Tm_T | very expensive |
| 16:45.17 | Tm_T | almost 6e |
| 16:46.02 | sedeki | Tm_T euro or drugs? |
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| 16:46.17 | Tm_T | eypo ;p |
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| 16:47.51 | drac | I'd appereciate the last ones atm |
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| 16:57.38 | PhilRod | jeh: ping |
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| 17:00.51 | NeoFax | Is there a way to change the kicker icons to say 12pixels in the systray/taskbar and 36pixels in the quick launch area? |
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| 17:07.24 | PhilRod | NeoFax: use the "quick launch" applet |
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| 17:15.52 | akrus | hello |
| 17:16.04 | akrus | something new about the konversation? :D |
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| 17:22.04 | _poison | w00t |
| 17:22.13 | _poison | my new lappy rocks =D |
| 17:22.48 | NeoFax | PhilRod: That doesn't allow the systray and taskbar to do double height. |
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| 17:23.17 | cbr | hi, how can you hide system tray icons in KDE? |
| 17:23.22 | cbr | there was some little arrow button |
| 17:23.28 | cbr | cant find the place to enable it |
| 17:23.39 | apokryphos | right-click -> configure system tray |
| 17:24.17 | cbr | lol |
| 17:24.19 | cbr | stupid me |
| 17:24.21 | cbr | thanks |
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| 18:17.11 | Arkkis | hello kde-folks, I've had recently few problems, and I'd appreciate some help. How can I control what volume slider does my multimedia keyboard volume control? |
| 18:17.40 | Arkkis | I mean, my audio is sent via optical cable, thus making the default volume control not work somehow |
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| 18:20.31 | annma | Arkkis: is that only in kde or for all multimedia apps? |
| 18:21.10 | Arkkis | when I control multimedia sound from the application itself, it usually works, master volume slider in kde does not however do a thing |
| 18:21.56 | annma | where, master volume slider? |
| 18:21.58 | Arkkis | so, when I rotate my multimedia volume button, it controls the master slider, that does not a thing to the sound (as it's optical output I think) |
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| 18:22.04 | Arkkis | umm, kmix |
| 18:22.45 | annma | is the mixer the correct one? |
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| 18:22.56 | Arkkis | correct one? |
| 18:23.11 | annma | yes, was it detected properly by your distro? |
| 18:23.28 | Arkkis | I think so |
| 18:23.35 | Arkkis | wait a sec, I'll check something |
| 18:24.39 | Arkkis | ok, so lets go trough it all |
| 18:24.52 | Arkkis | I have soundblaster live with an optical out |
| 18:25.14 | Arkkis | when I connect to the normal 3.5mm output, kmix master volume slider works as it should |
| 18:25.27 | Arkkis | but the kmix master slider does not effect the optical output at all |
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| 18:25.48 | Arkkis | so my stereos play the music with same volume no matter the master slider is set to |
| 18:25.55 | annma | did you look at Google? |
| 18:26.03 | annma | what distro do you use? |
| 18:26.06 | Arkkis | gentoo |
| 18:26.14 | annma | in my distro there are mm kernels |
| 18:26.28 | annma | maybe your kernel lacks something |
| 18:26.40 | annma | I know nothing about all that to be frank |
| 18:26.48 | Arkkis | I'm not quite sure what I should look for, as kmix works with standard 3.5mm plugs, but the optical part does not |
| 18:27.04 | annma | I use a 2.6 multimedia kernel from my distro |
| 18:27.10 | Arkkis | well, the optical part works, but not the volume control of it |
| 18:27.13 | Arkkis | hmm |
| 18:27.31 | Arkkis | I'm not sure gentoo has separate multimedia distros |
| 18:27.38 | Arkkis | or kernels |
| 18:27.43 | Arkkis | lets see |
| 18:27.57 | akrus | what's new about 4.0? |
| 18:28.12 | annma | akrus: 4.0 what? |
| 18:28.34 | akrus | kde |
| 18:29.06 | annma | what sort of news do you want? |
| 18:29.17 | annma | are you a developer? |
| 18:29.27 | frb | I want plasma |
| 18:29.50 | annma | plasma, hmmm |
| 18:29.58 | Arkkis | annma, no, I think there's no multimedia kernel for gentoo |
| 18:30.07 | annma | nothing very concrete here yet, frank23 |
| 18:30.09 | annma | frb |
| 18:30.34 | frb | annma: I know, I'm patient |
| 18:30.49 | Arkkis | annma, any ideas where to control what the default setting for my multimedia keyb vol control is? |
| 18:31.33 | annma | do you use Alsa? |
| 18:32.14 | Arkkis | well, yes |
| 18:33.42 | annma | what does alsamixer say? |
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| 18:35.44 | Desintegr | my multimedia volume key change my master volume (alsa) with Kmix |
| 18:36.05 | Arkkis | works just like kmix does, master volume does not control optical output volume |
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| 18:36.28 | Desintegr | and I'm not using optical output |
| 18:36.35 | davidhouse | hey, is there a way to set the windows key to open the K Menu? |
| 18:36.46 | Arkkis | Desintegr, so, when you rotate your multimm keyb vol, do you see this onscreen slider to control the volume? |
| 18:36.50 | davidhouse | the best I can get is Win+Something else to open it |
| 18:37.18 | Desintegr | my volume key change the slider in kmix, and in alsamixer |
| 18:37.24 | Desintegr | master volume slider |
| 18:38.06 | Arkkis | Desintegr, ah, but do you know how to make it not change the master slider, but wav slider instead? |
| 18:38.25 | Desintegr | hum |
| 18:38.27 | Arkkis | as wav slider is the only slider that seems to adjust my optical output sound volume properly |
| 18:38.37 | jorgp2 | how do you setup certs in kmail? using 3.5 alpha 1 |
| 18:38.40 | jorgp2 | what is chiasmus? |
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| 18:38.49 | Arkkis | or any suggestions how to make the master volume work truly as master of the optical one too =) |
| 18:40.10 | annma | if alsamixer does not work I don't see how kmix would |
| 18:40.19 | annma | did you google for that? |
| 18:42.07 | Arkkis | no, I'm googling now |
| 18:42.36 | Arkkis | but I wonder what part of the kde does the automatic multimedia keyboard volume stuff, as I have not set it up |
| 18:44.53 | annma | it's in kcontrol |
| 18:44.57 | annma | key bindings |
| 18:45.07 | annma | but if alsamixer does not work, nor will kde |
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| 18:46.54 | Arkkis | annma, sorry, I can not locate the volume binds from there |
| 18:48.03 | gmg9 | is there any apps/tools that will collect all browser's (like ff, mozilla, epiphany, konq etc.) bookmarks and store them in one place ?? |
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| 18:51.00 | elirips | hello people. does anyone know how i can make kde automatically start kcd and play the disc, as soon as i put an audio-cd into my cd-rom? |
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| 18:51.23 | frb | elirips: depends on your distro |
| 18:51.32 | elirips | frb: debian sarge. |
| 18:51.41 | frb | elirips: in suse, there is a process that is called suseplugger that watches for inserted hardware |
| 18:51.57 | frb | elirips: I would ask debian then |
| 18:52.56 | annma | Arkkis: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys |
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| 18:58.04 | annma | Arkkis: is your keyboard supported? |
| 18:58.32 | Arkkis | logitech elite |
| 18:58.39 | annma | is it supported in kde? |
| 18:59.11 | Arkkis | it's not in my list as a standard |
| 18:59.24 | Arkkis | but I have managed to get the keys to work |
| 19:00.55 | annma | :) |
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| 19:13.02 | annma | too late |
| 19:13.09 | annma | he gave 1 minute only! |
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| 19:54.52 | [ssk] | hi, how do i describe a qdate parameter with dcop? |
| 19:56.20 | [ssk] | what's the format? YYYY-MM-DD? |
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| 20:02.28 | straw | does anyone know where to find video of Zack Rusin's akademy presentation? |
| 20:05.35 | [ssk] | straw: http://ktown.kde.org/akademy2005/unprocessed/BeautyMagicKDE-ZackRusin-video.ogg |
| 20:06.14 | straw | awsome. thanks, ssk :) |
| 20:06.48 | [ssk] | np |
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| 20:08.49 | elvirolo | hi all |
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| 20:09.54 | _knoppix | wuz up |
| 20:10.23 | elvirolo | is there a way of *easilty* creating thunderbird-style accounts under kmail ? I like kmail, because it's well integrated in KDE, but i like having separate accounts, each ine hvaing its own inbox, outbox and so on, as well as it's own pop/imap server and identity |
| 20:11.53 | ponto | elvirolo: as far as I know, one can configure it in this way, but not easily. |
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| 20:12.06 | elvirolo | ponto: ok, thanks |
| 20:12.16 | elvirolo | this is so irritating |
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| 20:12.42 | straw | it's just different ;) |
| 20:13.07 | ponto | elvirolo: the directory structure of imap servers is shown as a subtree. |
| 20:13.21 | elvirolo | well, yes, i suppose i'm just used to having thunderbir :) |
| 20:13.26 | elvirolo | thunderbird* |
| 20:13.50 | elvirolo | ponto: ah, yes, but i have one imap account and one pop account too |
| 20:14.10 | straw | i've created different folders for each source i want separated from the main inbox, then i filter for each |
| 20:15.06 | ponto | one can change the target folder for each pop account |
| 20:15.09 | elvirolo | straw: yes, i did that one, but it takes ages ... (especially i you have many folders) |
| 20:15.37 | elvirolo | anyway, i'll try that, and see if kmail suits my needs, otherwise i'll stick with thunderbird |
| 20:15.57 | straw | you could file an rfe |
| 20:16.32 | elvirolo | yes i suppose i could |
| 20:16.49 | elvirolo | and i pbbly shall :) |
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| 20:29.29 | pusling | I am using some websites with a right-click-javascript-menu. This conflicts in konqueror with the right-click-menu. is there a way to tell konqueror not to show its own right-click-menu, if there is a onRightClick-event ? |
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| 20:30.26 | Kyaneos | hi |
| 20:30.29 | Speedy2 | Hi |
| 20:30.32 | kayfelix | hey peeps! I have a sound problem. Everything is there, running, looking peachy... but no sound. System beep works over the speakers though, so im pretty sure HW is all setup and working. Its an AC'97 Realtek onboard soundcard on an ASROCK K7S41GX mainboard, im running kubuntu and to be honest, am completely at a loss as to what to do next. |
| 20:31.19 | Speedy2 | kayfelix: At a terminal prompt type " dmesg | grep ALSA" -- what does it say? |
| 20:31.35 | Blissex | kayfelix: what is not producing sound? |
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| 20:32.03 | kayfelix | aplay pop.wav |
| 20:32.06 | kayfelix | is not producing sound |
| 20:32.08 | kayfelix | root@toaster:/usr/share/sounds # dmesg|grep ALSA |
| 20:32.08 | kayfelix | root@toaster:/usr/share/sounds # |
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| 20:32.33 | Speedy2 | kayfelix: It doesn't look the kernel loaded sound modules for your soundcard. kayfelix : You might have to compile it |
| 20:32.41 | kayfelix | i think this page is my problem, but it hasnt helped me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50509&page=1 |
| 20:32.51 | drac | Well, I have 2 working on 2 machines and dmesg | grep -i alsa doesn't give anything to me either ;) |
| 20:32.58 | drac | +alsa |
| 20:33.10 | Speedy2 | drac: It has to be ALSA in capital letters |
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| 20:33.21 | frb-work | what would cause krandr to not do anything? |
| 20:33.23 | drac | Speedy2: -i makes it case insensitive. |
| 20:33.29 | Blissex | kayfelix: troubleshooting section of http://tinyurl.com/3p9pl |
| 20:33.52 | Blissex | frb-work: perhaps the krandr module is not in the X config, or the driver does not support it. |
| 20:33.57 | frb-work | it used to work |
| 20:34.04 | kayfelix | treid compiling the codec for the snd card |
| 20:34.06 | frb-work | does it depend on kwin? |
| 20:34.11 | kayfelix | but got this when running configure |
| 20:34.50 | frb-work | bah, I'll just reboot since I got a new kernel update today anyway |
| 20:34.54 | Speedy2 | drac: Are you using ALSA? Maybe it's loaded as a module. |
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| 20:35.21 | sedeki | drac are you still stuck with the same problem? |
| 20:35.38 | kayfelix | checking for built-in ALSA... "yes" |
| 20:35.38 | kayfelix | configure: error: You have built-in ALSA in your kernel. |
| 20:36.24 | Speedy2 | kayfelix: Until yesterday I was using an AC97 soundcard. I got the kernel sources, compiled it from scratch and enabled AC97 (the i8x0 driver) and my sound worked |
| 20:37.01 | kayfelix | speedy2: that sounds mighty complicated - would I be able to do it? |
| 20:37.05 | Speedy2 | kayfelix: It's a bit of work, but the default Kubuntu kernel ships with a number of things you don't need anyway. It might be a good learning experience to go for it |
| 20:37.17 | Speedy2 | kayfelix: It's not that hard. You just have to spend your time going through the options carefully. |
| 20:37.27 | kayfelix | speedy2: so... where do I start? |
| 20:37.41 | Speedy2 | kayfelix: www.kernel.org, download the latest stable kernel |
| 20:37.47 | drac | sedeki: Me? I don't have any problem. |
| 20:37.55 | drac | Speedy2: Yes, i'm using alsa and everything is modules. |
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| 20:40.23 | drac | Was just stating grepping dmesg with alsa or ALSA or Alsa or whatever doesn't proof much. ie. rmmod my alsa module, modprobe it again -> only output is "Model 1006 Rev 00000000 Serial 10061102" |
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| 21:21.11 | kayfelix | he was helping me and now he's gone... |
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| 21:28.50 | rkroetch | Hey, I'm having issues compiling the latest 3.5 trunk SVN kdelibs |
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| 21:30.44 | rkroetch | The output from unsermake is here :: http://pastebin.com/352281 |
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| 21:31.22 | Blissex | rkroetch: if you do that kind of thing you are a guru developer and you know how to fix things... |
| 21:31.50 | rkroetch | Blissex: The file exists, however it hates me, and I am not a guru developer, I am an advanced user who likes to be on the bleeding edge. |
| 21:32.13 | Blissex | rkroetch: I detect a mismatch between means and aims :-) |
| 21:32.17 | rkroetch | Just because I compile my own KDE package-by-package from the latest (usable) trunk |
| 21:32.35 | rkroetch | Oh, I ussually figure odd errors out :) But I don't think this one is my fault |
| 21:32.44 | rkroetch | Can anyone verify that kdelibs still compiles? |
| 21:33.13 | PhilOut | no doubt it does - with so many developers at akademy, any problems would get fixed quickly |
| 21:33.22 | PhilOut | what does unsermake -c do? |
| 21:33.44 | Blissex | rkroetch: just to confirm, what does 'ls -ld /home/ryan/kdesvn/kdelibs/kdoctools/xslt_pure.cpp' say? |
| 21:34.43 | Blissex | rkroetch: also, the output of 'ls -ld /home/ryan/kdesvn/kdelibs/kdoctools/' |
| 21:35.02 | PhilOut | rkroetch: I don't have that file, and it doesn't appear on svn up |
| 21:35.04 | rkroetch | PhilOut: same error, and Blissex: It's a symlink to kdoctools/xslt.cpp |
| 21:35.41 | Blissex | rkroetch: so the file is confirmed not to exist? |
| 21:35.53 | PhilOut | rkroetch: no, I mean what's function of unsermake -c? |
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| 21:37.01 | snakattak | how do I get skype to have the plastik theme if I'm using kde? it looks like its using the default qt style |
| 21:37.02 | rkroetch | Blissex: Odd.. would the makefile.cvs get confused if the file exists and isn't supposed to? (I've been svn update'ing this tree for about a month) |
| 21:37.16 | rkroetch | snakattak: Are you running it as your user? |
| 21:37.36 | Blissex | snakattak: Skype is a Qt application, not a KDE application. |
| 21:38.14 | snakattak | yeah i am. I know its not kde, but since i'm using kde, shouldn't it be using the same kde-theme i'm using? |
| 21:38.40 | Blissex | snakattak: obviously not. |
| 21:38.42 | snakattak | or do you need the separate plastique qt theme? |
| 21:38.57 | Blissex | snakattak: KDE themes are interpreted by the KDE libraries. |
| 21:39.08 | snakattak | ok, thanks for clearing that up |
| 21:39.10 | Blissex | snakattak: so you need to install a similar-looking Qt theme. |
| 21:39.39 | Blissex | snakattak: use 'qtconfig' to select the theme that Qt apps should use. |
| 21:41.07 | snakattak | thanks, thats what I was looking for |
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| 21:41.44 | rkroetch | Blissex: Odd, I deleted the two depreciated symlinks and it is compiling fine... |
| 21:41.54 | rkroetch | Blissex: Shouldn't svn handle that? |
| 21:42.03 | Blissex | rkroetch: not odd at all. |
| 21:42.41 | rkroetch | I would think it odd that svn didn't handle the deletion of them to meet the current tree. I surely didn't add them, they came from a previous date. |
| 21:42.46 | Blissex | rkroetch: if you have broken symlinks, and the package uses automake or something similar, the broken symlinks will be included in the list of files to compile and bad news. |
| 21:42.58 | rkroetch | The symlinks weren't broken however, they just existed. |
| 21:43.03 | Blissex | rkroetch: and yes, ideally if obsolete they should have been deleted. |
| 21:43.27 | rkroetch | That is just what confuzzled me.... damn svn... trying to eat my children... |
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| 21:56.51 | PhilOut | rkroetch: I think "svn revert ." will make the current directory match the repository version |
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| 22:05.36 | Tm_T | hi kids |
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| 22:09.56 | bkn | hi, i'm trying to generate a backtrace with kaddressbook, it crashes on start up on OS X. I try to run it in gdb but i don't get a stacktrace. any suggestions? |
| 22:10.21 | bkn | oh, i did use ./configure --enable-debug. |
| 22:10.45 | blshkv | bkn: bt?.. |
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| 22:11.11 | bkn | gdb gives: No stack. |
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| 22:17.50 | blshkv | bkn: have no idea. I did it couple times and it was working fine for me. |
| 22:18.58 | yansanmo__ | --enable-debug=full ? |
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| 22:19.46 | frb-work | so people want their kde to look like macosx, but run kde on macosx? |
| 22:20.02 | bkn | umm, intersing idea, also and idea that will take a few hours to test, i'll still give it a try. |
| 22:20.28 | bkn | frb-work, heheheh. interesting point. I think KWM is way better then OS X's window behavior. |
| 22:21.56 | bkn | frb-work, KWM has the magnetic bahavoir within 5pixels, also the right/middle click on the maximize buttons. |
| 22:22.09 | bkn | frb-work, i could go on .... but i won't ;) |
| 22:28.28 | bkn | Blissex, YankDownUnder : it turns out i need to run kaddressbok --nofork (i remember this from before, but i forgot) |
| 22:28.58 | bkn | blshkv, oops ment to send that last message to you. |
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| 22:30.09 | blshkv | bnk: hm, really strange .. |
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| 22:32.05 | elirips_ | hello. is there something available like audiograbber that integrates nicely into kde? |
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| 22:33.01 | DexterF | hi |
| 22:33.15 | DexterF | anyone here using baghira and the gtk-qt engine? |
| 22:33.58 | DexterF | got context menus greyed out in an gtk2 app, and now they are grey on slightly-darker-grey, hence barely readable |
| 22:34.11 | DexterF | don't know what to do |
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| 22:38.49 | PhilOut | elirips: audiocd:/ |
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| 22:53.04 | gmg9 | DexterF: r u talking about the window tiltle color/font ?? |
| 22:53.50 | gmg9 | is there any apps/tools that will collect all browser's (like ff, mozilla, epiphany, konq etc.) bookmarks and store them in one place ?? |
| 22:54.08 | drac | Fx, not ff. :) |
| 22:54.30 | gmg9 | FireFox = FF nor fx |
| 22:54.37 | gmg9 | =p |
| 22:55.06 | drac | No, it's really Fx. Official shorten. But whatever :) |
| 22:55.42 | gmg9 | yea, that doen not really matter to us :)) |
| 22:57.21 | DexterF | gmg9: no, rather the context menu when right-clicking somewhere an a menu item iss greyed out |
| 22:59.09 | gmg9 | i am currently using baghira, but i dine face any prob like that, |
| 22:59.46 | gmg9 | it will very helpful if u can upload a screen shot of yr desktop with this error |
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| 23:03.42 | DexterF | gmg9: don't have any webspace, but I have a screenshot. 13k. |
| 23:03.44 | DexterF | could dcc. |
| 23:04.26 | gmg9 | i cant receive, have some prob with xchat |
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| 23:06.18 | DexterF | nevermind, I just noticed I haven't figured how to send thru my irc bouncer :P |
| 23:06.47 | DexterF | gmg9: but you can easily reproduce what I got here: |
| 23:06.47 | gmg9 | DexterF: imgshack.us upload here |
| 23:07.11 | DexterF | ah.. never heard of that... moment |
| 23:07.58 | DexterF | uh.. redirects me to a web hoster ad page |
| 23:08.17 | gmg9 | yea, me too, i dont know why |
| 23:08.51 | DexterF | well, anyway, oyu can see it quite easily: when you run kate, and right-click in empty space |
| 23:09.13 | DexterF | then a context menu comes up with some edit options. a few will be greyed out. |
| 23:09.25 | DexterF | like the first, "undo" |
| 23:10.14 | DexterF | i need to know which value affects the font color for the greyed |
| 23:10.25 | gmg9 | hmmm, almost mix with the back color |
| 23:10.33 | gmg9 | gray |
| 23:12.25 | gmg9 | DexterF: goto kcontrol > Appreance & Theme > Colors |
| 23:12.39 | DexterF | uh huh |
| 23:12.54 | gmg9 | change the "Inactive title text" |
| 23:13.05 | gmg9 | just give a try, see what happend |
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| 23:13.51 | DexterF | nah, that's like it says the titel of inactive windows. |
| 23:14.11 | gmg9 | did u try changind the color |
| 23:14.12 | gmg9 | ?? |
| 23:14.19 | DexterF | yes. |
| 23:14.20 | gmg9 | ^changing |
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| 23:14.27 | gmg9 | hmmm |
| 23:14.45 | DexterF | the menu font is "window text", but there's no "inactive window text" |
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| 23:15.21 | gmg9 | hmm |
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| 23:18.56 | DexterF | yup. i just grabbed the RGB values with gimp, there isn't any setting that matches this color.. |
| 23:19.18 | gmg9 | imageshack.us try this |
| 23:19.18 | DexterF | I'll email the baghira author, I think. Guess he'll know. |
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| 23:20.55 | DexterF | http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kontextmenuausschnitt3pa.png |
| 23:21.23 | DexterF | there's one thing I forgot to mention: |
| 23:22.01 | DexterF | this is from a gtk2 app, I have the gtk-qt-engine here which passes gtk widget calls to qt so gtk2 apps look like qt. |
| 23:22.47 | DexterF | but gtk obviously not only greys the lines but puts a checkerboard pattern over it. guess that's what really renders it unreadable. |
| 23:23.26 | gmg9 | yes |
| 23:23.34 | DexterF | hence it should be affected through the kde settings |
| 23:24.01 | DexterF | ...and for reasons beyond me Opera buttons just turned pink... |
| 23:24.16 | gmg9 | i thought it was something to do with kcontrol colors, but thats not |
| 23:24.54 | gmg9 | for right click menu/context menus |
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| 23:26.35 | gmg9 | anyway, have to sleep , bye c u |
| 23:27.35 | DexterF | cyu, and thanks anyway |
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| 23:30.59 | johnny69 | Has anyone here tried the LDAP-server thingy on Kaddressbook ? So far, i have tried ldap.infospace.com ldap.bigfoot.com ldap.yahoo.com and a few others...and I have either gotten no response to my queries, or a return saying cannot connect. Looking through google shows these addresses to be legitimate and public ldap servers for phonebooks, etc. I went with the default port of 389 on each. Someone tell me what I am doing |
| 23:30.59 | johnny69 | 9.3/kde 3.4.2) Thanks. |
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