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00:05.58 | rutski89 | akrill: so, we need a macro lense to get a good close up then? Check this out, http://www.kartonwork.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5139 the 4th immage down... about 100 of those can fit on your thumb nail; can a cosco camera do that? |
00:06.23 | akrill | no, a costco camera could never do that |
00:06.55 | rutski89 | akrill: can a $300 dollar camera do that? |
00:07.05 | akrill | no |
00:07.10 | rutski89 | akrill: give me a price range theN/ |
00:07.12 | rutski89 | ? |
00:07.29 | akrill | ...are you sure you realllly want me to? |
00:07.36 | rutski89 | akrill: yes |
00:08.50 | akrill | ok, well if you're wanting to get pics like that at FULL 5MP resolution, you'll want a very steady tripod ($50-100), a good body ($600-1200), some lighting ($100-200), and a superduper macro lens ($1000-4000) |
00:09.47 | rutski89 | akrill: maybe if we save for a year :-p |
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00:10.02 | akrill | exactly. lol |
00:10.33 | akrill | he'd need the tripod because that close to something yuo'll have to use a very slow shutter speed in order to get anything other than pitch black. |
00:10.47 | akrill | and at that slow, you cannot hold it steady enoug |
00:10.51 | akrill | *enough |
00:11.29 | rutski89 | If i have 3x digital zoom and 4x optical, does that come to 15x total? |
00:11.44 | rutski89 | akrill: heeh, I think we are going to go for a family camera |
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00:11.56 | akrill | 12x |
00:12.00 | akrill | and digital zoom sucks |
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00:12.12 | akrill | if you want a camera the family can use, get the Powershot S2 IS. its worth the extra $200 |
00:12.26 | akrill | its 12x optical, 4x digital. 5MP. uses SD. |
00:12.40 | rutski89 | yea |
00:12.49 | rutski89 | it would be good for taking portrait pictures right |
00:12.57 | akrill | its a good all around camera |
00:13.13 | rutski89 | i mean, my dad wants to zoom in a good bit on the image and get some detial about the fabric, a piece of jewerly etc... can the S2 IS do that? |
00:13.26 | akrill | its great for portraits, landscapes, you name it, it can do it... not as good as an SLR with a lens specifically for that purpose, but its great |
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00:14.24 | apprentice | sorry about that |
00:14.27 | dz | I'm running dual monitors without xinerama, and kde's session restore always starts programs that were running on :0.1 on :0.0... is there any fix or workaround for this (or is there something I'm missing?) |
00:14.31 | akrill | tis ok |
00:14.51 | akrill | dz: well, the smartass answer would be to before you log out, swap your windows over XP |
00:15.09 | akrill | dz: but um, in all seriousness, I don't know, I have no experience with dual monitor setups |
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00:15.55 | dz | always end up having to exit the two programs and then restart them on the second display |
00:16.15 | dz | and the only bugs I found on it are with xinerama |
00:16.21 | akrill | hmmm.... so im guessing you're running two KDE desktops at once? |
00:16.28 | akrill | two separate instances? |
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00:16.42 | dz | akrill: well, two desktops but kdm does both at once |
00:17.02 | dz | it's one instance of xorg |
00:17.08 | akrill | hmm.... |
00:17.21 | akrill | i really have no idea why it does that |
00:18.40 | akrill | sorry :-\ |
00:19.22 | Sgep | Is there an equivlent of KAppFinder that works with KDE programs? |
00:20.14 | akrill | KAppFinder should find KDE programs too... what specifcally are you trying to get it to find? |
00:20.42 | Sgep | KMail |
00:20.52 | akrill | where is KDE installed? |
00:20.59 | rutski89 | Sgep: hehe, kappfinder finds xeyes, it should find kmail i suppose ^^ |
00:21.20 | Sgep | KAppFinder looks for non-KDE applications |
00:21.38 | akrill | KAppFinder /should/ also find KDE apps that arent already listed |
00:22.04 | Sgep | Where are the .desktop files stored? |
00:26.17 | akrill | depends, .desktop files for what? there are many places depending on what it is |
00:27.13 | Sgep | Found it |
00:27.21 | akrill | ok |
00:27.34 | Sgep | Is there an easy way to unhide hidden KDE programs? |
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00:28.30 | akrill | not that i know of |
00:29.04 | jmspeex | Can someone tell me how to make konqueror use double click instead of single click for opening files. It's probably simple, but I've gone through all the kcontrol options and didn't find it. |
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00:29.19 | akrill | its under konqueror's settings dialog |
00:29.39 | akrill | cant remember exactly where |
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00:34.22 | rutski89 | akrill: yea, we're going to buy the Canon |
00:34.36 | akrill | the Powershot S2 IS? |
00:34.40 | rutski89 | akrill: yup |
00:34.43 | akrill | woot |
00:35.10 | rutski89 | akrill: I'll have to pitch in $200, but I really don't want my dad to waste $300 on a half way piece of junk :-p |
00:35.20 | akrill | -laughs- nice |
00:35.46 | rutski89 | akrill: hehe; I'll use it for my website too. If i ever make it... |
00:36.18 | rutski89 | akrill: maybe acutally having a server to put a site on will motivate me to finally get arround to it |
00:36.23 | rutski89 | *around |
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00:40.00 | jmspeex | akrill: can't find it there... |
00:40.34 | jmspeex | Also, the font for the file names is quite small. Can't find where to change that |
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00:42.20 | Borg^Queen | Hey people |
00:42.34 | rutski89 | Hey Borg^Queen |
00:42.50 | Borg^Queen | I'm trying to get kdm to use a specific style but the style doesn't show up in login manager. |
00:42.55 | Borg^Queen | Hey rutski89 |
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00:44.02 | Borg^Queen | the style is in use by root but not listed |
00:44.37 | Borg^Queen | Anyone? |
00:45.08 | thiago | kdm has specific |
00:45.11 | thiago | configs |
00:45.20 | thiago | did you check the setting in the KDE Control Centre? |
00:45.38 | Borg^Queen | Aye I did. |
00:45.51 | Borg^Queen | Its not listed there. Root is using that style so I know its installed |
00:46.23 | Borg^Queen | I'm using the login manager in Kcontrol to change it |
00:46.32 | Borg^Queen | but as I said, the style isn't listed. |
00:47.06 | nightmaster | hello |
00:47.14 | Borg^Queen | hello |
00:48.40 | nightmaster | how r u mr queen |
00:49.07 | Borg^Queen | Doing well except for a bothersome KDM problem |
00:49.12 | Borg^Queen | Nothing important, |
00:50.06 | Borg^Queen | I can't get kdm to use a style I want |
00:53.11 | Borg^Queen | Ooh I misspelled the style name. BRB |
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00:58.06 | TMS | is there any way to switch tabs in konsole without clicking them? the konsole help didnt mention any hotkeys |
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01:02.27 | TMS | hm, apparently there are built in hotkeys for session 1-12 |
01:02.32 | TMS | but you have to assign them |
01:03.44 | TMS | hm, apparently there are built in hotkeys for session 1-12, but they are unassigned. should be no problem then |
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01:04.32 | Under_Score | #lilug |
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01:19.47 | Borg^Queen | Hey people I'm trying to get kdm use a specific them but the style isn't list in login manager. The style is in use by root. When I try to reinstall the style I get this |
01:19.48 | Borg^Queen | QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used |
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01:22.12 | lunitik | I was thinking of something that would be cool for KDE4, and was wondering if it would even be possible... |
01:23.14 | lunitik | Many people complain about the menu's in apps like konqi, would it be possible to make resizable menu's (ala XP - especially Office) ... this would make the menu's more manageable, while still not losing any features... |
01:23.53 | lunitik | Is that possible to do with KDE4? |
01:24.17 | Borg^Queen | lunitik: that's a good idea you should propose it to the kde devel |
01:24.24 | lunitik | s/KDE4/Qt4 |
01:24.45 | lunitik | Borg^Queen: Enhancement bug work? |
01:24.47 | eisregen | lunitik: *g* I hate those ... as long as it's optional it'd be ok =) |
01:25.09 | derelm | btw, i noticed that in kubuntu you can chose what os to start next time when shutting down kde. is that a ubuntu extension or is that a normal 3.4.x feature? |
01:25.14 | lunitik | eisregen: I would hate more that the features end up in a gconf time thing... |
01:25.31 | lunitik | type* |
01:25.53 | thiago | lunitik: resizeable? |
01:25.56 | thiago | whatever for? |
01:26.04 | thiago | they are exactly the size they are supposed to be |
01:26.11 | thiago | if you enlarge, you'll have empty space |
01:26.18 | thiago | if you shrink, you won't see everything |
01:26.42 | Borg^Queen | See what? |
01:27.34 | thiago | well, imagine you shrink the Settings menu to half its width |
01:27.55 | thiago | you'll have 5 "Configure " entries without the corresponding name |
01:28.32 | lunitik | thiago: a lot of people complain about the amount of options in the menu's of apps like Konqi... MSOffice only shows options that you use enless you expand the menu... would clean up the menu system a lot... |
01:28.32 | eisregen | thiago: he meant the stupid menus in MS Office / XP that only show the entrys that you don't need and you have to 'extend' by clicking an 'arrow down' item in the menu to get all entrys displayed ... |
01:28.56 | thiago | ah, that |
01:28.59 | thiago | menu height |
01:29.26 | Borg^Queen | I think that's an annoying feature |
01:29.30 | lunitik | thiago: as eisregen stated, it would be good to allow this to be turned off... but should be on by default to ensure a cleaner interface |
01:29.57 | thiago | well, I don't know if Qt4 can do that |
01:30.04 | Borg^Queen | lunitik: I guess it would be useful as an option |
01:30.49 | mobtek | lunitik: that is the most annoying feature I office I know |
01:30.57 | mobtek | pisses me off no end :) |
01:31.06 | eisregen | mobtek: me too ... |
01:31.08 | eisregen | =) |
01:31.17 | mobtek | means I have to click twice ffs :) |
01:31.22 | Borg^Queen | mobtek! Where's my APP! |
01:31.39 | mobtek | hahah :) |
01:31.50 | mobtek | ok I have schoolwork to do |
01:31.59 | Borg^Queen | Hmm |
01:32.08 | Borg^Queen | You don't want me to have a tantrum |
01:32.44 | eisregen | uhm ... in kde 3.2 or so there was a 'Recently opened with' context menu entry ... where has that gone ? *g* |
01:33.12 | eisregen | *in konqi of course |
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01:46.25 | lunitik | mobtek: As I said, it beats losing functionality, and is better than something like gconf making features less accessable... of course, it would be able to be turned off... but I really think it would get rid of a lot of critisms KDE (especially konqueror) receive... |
01:48.37 | lunitik | mobtek: As I said in my bug report, there should be a good default list of options in each menu... so most functionality that people use would be there by default, you would simply expand to do other less used options... |
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01:49.50 | lunitik | mobtek: KDE already puts a lot of things in the Configure (app) setup tools, that would of course be an option too (move some menu items into configuration dialogs) |
01:50.04 | lunitik | (which would add more clicks) |
01:50.21 | lunitik | Certainly, something must be done to stop such critism's though. |
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01:55.36 | mobtek | lunitik: I'm sure the dev's welcome ideas |
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02:01.38 | Sgep | Is there a program that shows me a list of all installed KDE programs and allows me to selectivly hide or show them in the K Menu? |
02:02.56 | grepper | kmenuedit |
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02:03.05 | grepper | r-click on Kmenu icon |
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02:11.57 | thiago | hello mathieu |
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02:18.39 | sloth6 | are kde application shortcuts able to have custom enviornment variables?? |
02:24.31 | thiago | shortcuts? |
02:24.36 | thiago | what do you mean? |
02:24.52 | thiago | change Ctrl+L to Ctrl+O if a variable is set? |
02:27.23 | sloth6 | no I mean links |
02:29.12 | sloth6 | .desktop files |
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02:30.40 | Tm_lag | hi kids |
02:31.39 | thiago | sloth6: ah |
02:31.47 | thiago | sloth6: I still don't know what you mean |
02:31.59 | thiago | can you elaborate? |
02:32.05 | Sgep | In KDE 3.4.0, how do I import a PasswordSafe 2.x file? |
02:32.10 | sloth6 | oh I want to set variables for the executable u know like PATH and things |
02:34.48 | sloth6 | only for that application from that link. there are many nice options but none let me set environment variables for executable that I see |
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02:41.31 | YaP | hi |
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02:42.15 | YaP | ? |
02:42.19 | sloth6 | yo |
02:43.04 | YaP | yo |
02:43.13 | YaP | I was looking for infos on pykde |
02:43.17 | YaP | can you help me? |
02:44.40 | YaP | ? |
02:45.20 | Roey | YaP: hi |
02:45.23 | Roey | YaP: I do pykde. |
02:45.26 | Roey | YaP: what's up |
02:45.27 | mobtek | http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt/python/tutorial.html |
02:45.38 | mobtek | oops not that one hehe |
02:45.58 | sloth6 | sure http://developer.kde.org/language-bindings/python/index.html ? |
02:46.25 | YaP | thanks |
02:46.33 | YaP | i'm learning python |
02:47.17 | YaP | and was wondering wether pykde was mature |
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02:48.48 | YaP | we would like to do and application that could interact with kontact |
02:49.51 | YaP | like adding contacts and event in the calendar |
02:51.16 | YaP | but the links you gave will do for now thank you |
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03:15.33 | kkrizka | key guys |
03:16.10 | kkrizka | any recomendation for prgram that I can use to retrieve video from my camcorder throguh firewire? |
03:16.19 | kkrizka | kde-apps seems to be down again, so I can't search |
03:16.26 | elijahlofgren | I use kino |
03:16.35 | kkrizka | I was thinking something kde specific |
03:17.04 | illogic-al | then... kino |
03:17.11 | elijahlofgren | You could use dvgrab but that's a console app, works great though. |
03:17.21 | kkrizka | kino is for gnome |
03:17.48 | kkrizka | I think I'll wait for kde-apps to come back up |
03:17.59 | kkrizka | I don't really want to guess when the video ends with console |
03:18.54 | elijahlofgren | The way my camera works it plays while it is capturing through firewire so I can see when the video ends. |
03:18.57 | elijahlofgren | then I can just Ctrl+C dvgrab and I have my movie. |
03:19.08 | kkrizka | oh yeah, good point |
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03:20.21 | illogic-al | kkrizka: it begins with kkkk. go with it :-) |
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03:21.15 | kkrizka | illogic-al: I know, I though it's kde too at first |
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03:21.27 | kkrizka | stupid naming, should rename it to gino |
03:22.11 | elijahlofgren | Kino is a really great program though, I used it today to capture and do some simple editing. |
03:23.05 | kkrizka | I used it in gnome too, it's really good |
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03:24.07 | elijahlofgren | I use in KDE, I don't have gnome installed, just the gnome-libs required for some programs. |
03:24.20 | elijahlofgren | *use it in |
03:26.06 | kkrizka | I'll see of there are any apps for kde when kde-apps comes back again |
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03:26.13 | kkrizka | if not, I'll get kino |
03:26.21 | kkrizka | I though kdevline might do it, but it dosn't look like it |
03:27.50 | elijahlofgren | I don't think kdenlive does it, I have it installed and I don't see and way to capture. You can import video that you captured with dvgrab though. |
03:28.28 | kkrizka | yup |
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03:37.15 | sloth6 | does KDE 3.5 have embedded drag n drop read/write support for archives (bz2 etc) in Konqueror? |
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03:49.23 | thiago | sloth6: no |
03:49.26 | thiago | but ark does |
03:51.54 | grepper | hm, akode errors in 3.5 kdemm/akode_artsplugin |
03:54.01 | grepper | http://rafb.net/paste/results/SUWpQ211.html |
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04:03.16 | Zaki | hi |
04:03.24 | Zaki | is there any tweaks in kde to make it run faster? |
04:04.50 | Dhraakellian | yeah |
04:04.54 | Dhraakellian | turn off some of they eye-candy |
04:05.15 | Roey | Dhraakellian: do you suppose... |
04:05.43 | Roey | Dhraakellian: ...that it's time that we remove the super-secret calls to sleep() in the main KDE libs code? |
04:05.44 | Dhraakellian | (transparency in menus, animating various things like minimizing, menu-opening, window-moving, etc) |
04:06.09 | Dhraakellian | Roey, woah... how did those stay in there? |
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04:06.14 | Roey | Dhraakellian: then bump up the KDE version a notch and proclaim that KDE 4 is ten times faster than anything before? |
04:06.18 | alexius | Hi. |
04:06.28 | sloth6 | Zaki: might try some of these http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance+Tips |
04:06.37 | alexius | Q: How can I switch between my favourite FPS and my window manager ? |
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04:09.53 | grepper | oops, kdesupport should have been updated first |
04:09.58 | sloth6 | alexius: you can start another X session and switch back and forth with ctrl-alt-f keys |
04:10.31 | sloth6 | in case your fps doesnt do window mode |
04:10.55 | alexius | it is cube |
04:11.01 | alexius | it does window mode |
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04:11.19 | dad | hey, all |
04:12.12 | alexius | but all the input of the mouse and keyboard gets to the window, so i still have the same switching imposibility |
04:12.16 | Ringwraith` | hi ... dad? |
04:12.24 | dad | i'm looking for the most recent rev number of kdesdk-kmtrace |
04:12.35 | dad | Ringwraith`: greets |
04:13.51 | dad | having trouble with a prog that's linked to what i think is a severly backrev libktrace |
04:14.11 | Ringwraith` | what is that prog doing that it shouldnt |
04:14.35 | alexius | sloth6, thanks for your tips |
04:14.43 | sloth6 | is KDE 4 due out at the end of the year or perhaps tentatively so? |
04:15.20 | sloth6 | alexius: dont forget to check cube help on how to release the mouse in window mode |
04:15.25 | Zaki | sloth6, thanks alot for the link, i'll read it and see if i can make my kde run faster ... |
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04:20.14 | dad | Ringwraith`: i have a binary only server program that's linked to libktrace-gcc2.96 (rh 7.3) but debian doesn't have a library by that name, instead it's just libktrace |
04:20.59 | Ringwraith` | what is your gcc version |
04:21.00 | Ringwraith` | 2.96? |
04:21.03 | dad | Ringwraith`: and so, the server program bombs, (no such library |
04:22.05 | Ringwraith` | you might be able to get away by symlinking it |
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04:22.14 | Ringwraith` | it couldnt hurt to try |
04:22.24 | dad | tried that, no such luck |
04:23.10 | Ringwraith` | have used synaptic to search for it |
04:23.23 | Ringwraith` | providing that is in debian as well |
04:23.38 | dad | yes. |
04:24.25 | Ringwraith` | well look in the src repositiories and see if you see a version in there |
04:24.35 | Ringwraith` | is all i can suggest |
04:25.04 | dad | here's the deal, libktrace-gcc2.96 was in a RH 7.3 package - quite old |
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04:25.55 | Ringwraith` | well that one lib could require other things from a rh 7.3 system in order to run |
04:27.01 | dad | so, i'm wondering whether this server (neverwinter nights linux standalone game server, by bioware) is worth running, especially since they built their binary on such an old OS |
04:27.37 | Ringwraith` | well they are asses |
04:28.20 | dad | that's my thought as well |
04:29.07 | Frost^ | well linux is not easy to support, is it |
04:29.15 | dad | to tell the truth, i probablly have a cd w/ the full redhat 7.3 system on it - i recall it was only 3 cd's |
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04:29.37 | Ringwraith` | Frost^, no, maybe a few compile switches is not easy to support |
04:30.06 | Frost^ | what do you mean? |
04:30.09 | dad | Frost^: it can be easy, or a pain in the |
04:30.42 | Frost^ | I think the most successful ones at distributing anything for linux are nvidia |
04:30.58 | dad | Frost^: if you can automate common tasks, like backup, logging, etc... |
04:31.03 | Ringwraith` | yes because of their simple package manager |
04:31.17 | dad | oh |
04:31.19 | Ringwraith` | backup with amanda is a bitch |
04:31.22 | Ringwraith` | amanda is a bitch. |
04:31.25 | Ringwraith` | there i said it |
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04:31.52 | dad | ummm who? what? |
04:31.58 | Frost^ | drat |
04:32.32 | Ringwraith` | dad, amanda is a decent backup system |
04:32.57 | dad | oh, duh |
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04:42.49 | Zaki | anyone know where is the kde autostart folder is? |
04:43.15 | Zaki | or simply what is the kde installation prefix in fedora? |
04:44.37 | Ringwraith` | probably all over the fucking place because its uhm... fedora. |
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04:46.36 | dad | Ringwraith`: so, the question is, why on earth would bioware build against a backrev library, on a backrev system? |
04:46.57 | Ringwraith` | because it was a long time ago? |
04:48.04 | dad | Ringwraith`: i'm looking into that, but seem to recall the newest version of their binary, the one i'm trying to run, is less than a year old |
04:48.30 | Ringwraith` | it is still possible the dev machines were still using that |
04:48.45 | Ringwraith` | they are a pain in the ass to update |
04:49.12 | dad | but the previous version worked fine |
04:49.18 | dad | fuckers |
04:49.43 | Ringwraith` | see what the prev version was linked against |
04:49.47 | Ringwraith` | if you can |
04:50.44 | dad | i know it wasn't linked against libktrace-anything |
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04:51.13 | Ringwraith` | send them a hate letter |
04:51.17 | Ringwraith` | ;p |
04:51.39 | dad | i'd like to ping-flood their servers |
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04:52.16 | dad | but lack the anonymity to do it and stay outta jail |
04:52.33 | dad | so, i guess i'll just send hate mail |
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04:54.23 | dad | actually, i think i'll keep the older binary, and just patch it up to the curent version, that should work |
04:55.11 | killhound | i didnt believe that this would be this dificult |
04:55.20 | dad | especially since the patch is only scripts and data files |
04:55.56 | killhound | sorry dad |
04:56.53 | dad | killhound: it won't be that difficult - just fix the B0rk3d machine, and continue on - no real problem |
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04:57.15 | killhound | ko |
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05:14.33 | Goose | i <3 kde devs |
05:14.48 | Goose | <3 <3 <3 |
05:14.51 | Goose | =) |
05:15.05 | madpenguin8 | heh |
05:15.48 | madpenguin8 | Goose: you seem a little excited |
05:16.42 | Goose | i was trying to do a simple fileshare with windows and gnome + xfce wasted so much of my time |
05:16.48 | Goose | then konqueror did it in 2 mins |
05:16.56 | Goose | so yes |
05:16.58 | Goose | =) |
05:17.00 | Goose | <3 |
05:17.02 | madpenguin8 | konq rocks |
05:17.09 | Ringwraith` | well it fucking konquered that task didnt it |
05:17.18 | Goose | lol =) yes! |
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05:22.14 | alexius | Hi. How do I start another xsession ? |
05:22.36 | alexius | startx /usr/bin/startkde -- :1 <--------- like this |
05:22.38 | alexius | ? |
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05:26.28 | fhd_ | hi, is there a native kde volume manager? |
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05:41.12 | kkrizka | >fhd_: kmix? |
05:41.28 | Zaki | www.kde-look.org is not working? |
05:41.29 | bluelightning | kkrizka: I think maybe he is talking about LVM |
05:41.38 | bluelightning | and he's not here anymore |
05:41.45 | kkrizka | oh lol |
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07:27.06 | Nonsense | could anyone give a linux newbie a tip or two on resolving an unsatisfied dependency when trying to install KDE 3.4.2? or is this the wrong channel for that kind of advice? |
07:27.37 | aseigo | Nonsense: ask away |
07:28.17 | Nonsense | k.. I'm in mandrake, just trying to use 'urpmi kdebase' |
07:28.51 | Nonsense | it says it needs libkdecore4-3.4.2....etc |
07:29.04 | Nonsense | but when it tries to load that I get |
07:29.39 | Nonsense | Some Package requested cannot be installed: "libkdecore4-3.4.2-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied libHalf.so.2" |
07:30.14 | Nonsense | the problem is... I do have libHalf.so.2 |
07:30.37 | Nonsense | I just don't exactly know what the 'unsatisfied' problem is |
07:32.28 | Nonsense | is there a way to find out more info about why its 'unsatisfied'? |
07:36.14 | PieD | Nonsense: that's not a KDE bug |
07:36.20 | PieD | that's a mandrake problem |
07:36.31 | PieD | ask on #mandriva |
07:37.24 | Nonsense | roger that |
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07:39.16 | FenixRF | greetings... I'm having some arts difficulties |
07:39.34 | FenixRF | everything appears to be fine, except kde doesn't make noise |
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07:40.58 | chodapp | FenixRF, gone into the mixer and set everything? |
07:41.17 | FenixRF | yeah... volume is all set |
07:41.24 | FenixRF | everything looks hunky doory... |
07:41.35 | FenixRF | ... but clicking test sound does nothing |
07:41.40 | FenixRF | nor checking any of the event driven sounds |
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07:42.37 | FenixRF | juk shows it's playing, but there's no sound output |
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07:43.06 | FenixRF | I'm wondering if it's a dmix problem |
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07:44.29 | FenixRF | any ideas chodapp? :) |
07:44.32 | FenixRF | alsa works fine |
07:44.33 | FenixRF | hehe |
07:44.50 | chodapp | did everyone else just get something from hifriend? |
07:44.56 | FenixRF | ya |
07:45.17 | FenixRF | join #bantown |
07:45.20 | FenixRF | whatever |
07:45.52 | FenixRF | funny thing |
07:45.58 | FenixRF | it appears that arts is not running as a process |
07:46.14 | FenixRF | nevermind... forgot a switch in ps |
07:46.26 | FenixRF | emerge -uDav kdegraphics-meta kdenetwork-meta kdesdk-met |
07:46.31 | FenixRF | but it looks like it isn't running |
07:47.01 | FenixRF | let's try that again... |
07:47.04 | FenixRF | 32070 ? S 0:01 artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f |
07:47.06 | FenixRF | there we go |
07:50.30 | sloth6 | la la la |
07:51.24 | sloth6 | does KDE have an official song? |
07:51.42 | PieD | sloth6: you can already look at the qt4 dance :) |
07:52.01 | sloth6 | no i cant lol my video player wouldnt play it |
07:52.08 | PieD | Why ??? |
07:52.13 | sloth6 | i dunno |
07:52.14 | PieD | that's a mpeg file |
07:52.51 | FenixRF | can anyone help with my tiny arts problem? |
07:54.35 | sloth6 | oh i tried to play the mov version i see there is a "if all else fails" mpg version lol |
07:55.55 | sloth6 | i'm going to watch that and hope it alleviates my headache I got from trying to use qt4 with kdevelop 3.2.90 |
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08:15.50 | sloth6 | hehehe\ |
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08:28.49 | pinotree | hello =) |
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09:14.33 | fsn | Hello? |
09:15.00 | pinotree | hello fsn |
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09:18.07 | fsn | It's very quiet in here... |
09:19.39 | fsn | I have a KDE question, is this the right channel to ask it? Or is there any kde-user channel? |
09:19.54 | mobtek | here |
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09:23.07 | fsn | Well, I'm using KDE 3.4.2 on Fedora Core 3, and my Cdrom icon is behaving badly. When I click on a cdrom icon, it opens the "Find files" dialog and not konqueror. And I can't find where to change that setting. |
09:23.20 | fsn | Any ideas? |
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09:25.49 | luminerd_ | What is, in your opinion, the BEST CPU you can buy? What's the best make? For fastness, that is, not a server, but a personal computer...the fastest you can get? |
09:28.11 | mobtek | fsn: you can't right click the icon and change the properties |
09:28.12 | mobtek | ? |
09:30.49 | fsn | mobtek: Well I can, but there is no seting for the left-click action on a device icon. |
09:31.02 | fsn | ^seting^setting |
09:33.04 | fsn | Or rather, when I change the left-click action, I open the desktop settings file in that application, I don't open the device that it points to, for some reason. |
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09:39.25 | markey | luminerd_: athlon64 + nforce4 |
09:39.57 | luminerd_ | markey, even better than opteron? |
09:40.01 | markey | no |
09:40.09 | markey | opteron is a bit faster still |
09:40.19 | mobtek | fsn: click on the little configure button when you right click-properties |
09:40.20 | markey | but usually not used in desktop boxen |
09:40.37 | mobtek | havce a look in there :) |
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10:19.32 | luminerd_ | markey, thank you |
10:19.32 | luminerd_ | :D |
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10:52.39 | mads | Khallo |
10:52.56 | mads | Kwhat Kis Kup |
10:52.59 | mads | :) |
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10:54.32 | bluelightning | mads: so funny |
10:54.54 | boga | how can I made konqueror forget search terms on the google page? |
10:55.43 | bluelightning | boga: right click on the field and select "Clear History" |
10:56.15 | boga | bluelightning: oK. i'LL TRY THAT |
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11:00.24 | mads | bluelightning: having a bad day? :) |
11:00.55 | bluelightning | mads: not especially... |
11:01.24 | mads | ok :) |
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11:05.26 | mads | after KDE have reached 3.5, will the next version be 4.0?? |
11:06.10 | bluelightning | mads: I believe that's the plan yes |
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11:10.16 | ciga | hi |
11:11.28 | ciga | how do I run kde 3.4.1 and 3.5 at the same time. KDEHOME and KDEDIR is set, but the problem seem to be /var/tmp/kdecache-ciga/ksycoca. Is there a way to change that? |
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11:12.35 | ciga | hi sredna |
11:13.00 | sredna | Hey |
11:14.18 | ciga | is there a way to tell kio where to read ksyscoca. kde 3.4.1 is here /var/tmp/kdecache-ciga/ksycoca, but I'd like to run 3.5 at the same time, which also reads that file. |
11:14.56 | ciga | to read .. from. |
11:14.56 | sredna | I think you need to link that directory |
11:15.22 | sredna | You could use a script in .kde<version>/env |
11:16.04 | ciga | do you mean ~/.kde3.5-cvs/env? |
11:17.11 | ciga | oh i see. |
11:17.58 | ciga | .kde3.5-cvs/cache-$hostname should be linked to var/tmp/kdecache-ciga3.5 or so, right? |
11:18.05 | ciga | <PROTECTED> |
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11:20.42 | ciga | seem to work. |
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11:24.01 | buhya | Britney Spears Strip Tease Game LOOOOOOOOOL --> http://systemsecure.org/ssforum/viewtopic.php?t=54 |
11:26.12 | canllaith | Why join a channel and immediately advertise something? unless you're in a competition to see how quickly you can get banned, this is not a good idea =) |
11:26.55 | ciga | :) |
11:28.36 | ciga | hm, new akregator in 3.5 is nice. |
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11:29.46 | ciga | first day on 3.5. How stable do you find it? Should I try to switch from 3.4.1 or I have to wait a little bit? |
11:31.57 | mobtek | you could try 3.4.2 until 3.5 is released :P |
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11:33.15 | canllaith | ciga: I use it day to day right now for all my work. It seems very stable |
11:33.40 | canllaith | I'd still recommend being careful though. |
11:33.45 | ciga | mobtek: my mistake. I have 3.4.2 |
11:33.57 | ciga | I always use the cvs (now svn) version |
11:35.01 | canllaith | Ah, I have 3.5 branch. |
11:35.37 | sredna | Hi canllaith :) |
11:35.51 | sredna | How's the wether on your side of the planet? |
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11:36.29 | canllaith | sredna: beautiful :) http://www.canllaith.org/foo/Gliding/ |
11:36.35 | canllaith | I went flying today and it was just great. |
11:36.57 | sredna | Lucky you, here it's ben a bit greyish the last few days... |
11:37.08 | sredna | But it should become better |
11:37.33 | sredna | Wow, I wish that was me : |
11:38.01 | ciga | sredna: the one in the backseat? |
11:38.03 | ciga | :) |
11:38.40 | sredna | Well, gliding above the land like that, any seat would do, except I wouldn't trust my self to actually fly ;) |
11:39.16 | sredna | canllaith: That is the konqueror gallery plugin, right? |
11:39.49 | ciga | where is this place anyway? |
11:40.04 | sredna | New zeeland? |
11:41.21 | ciga | Titahi Bay and Porirua Harbour |
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11:41.40 | ciga | just click on an image, and it will be verbose. |
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11:45.36 | Theory | bother |
11:45.50 | Theory | kmail just deleted most of my emails |
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11:48.05 | sredna | I'm fighting my own images, trying to use digikam in a meaningful way.. but it's a fight :o |
11:48.38 | sredna | Theory: Are you sure? Maybe you just switched the folder, which is now possible |
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11:51.44 | Theory | sredna: I've logged in to the imap server via webmail interface, it contains no mails |
11:51.57 | Theory | however, I have a backup if my dimap cache from before they were deleted |
11:52.02 | Theory | any suggestions on how I can restore? |
11:53.16 | physos | Theory: Try #kontact |
11:53.36 | physos | Theory: Better chance to get an authoritive answer. |
11:54.18 | Theory | cheers, will do |
11:57.49 | mobtek | ciga: heh cool |
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12:07.52 | Yalla-One | Is there any way to make the Summary View in KDE 3.4.2's Kontact applications SKINNABLE ? Now all the information except RSS feeds show up on the left side, causing it to scroll while right-side is empty as I don't use RSS |
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12:08.59 | pinotree | Yalla-One: you can drag the various sections in the summary to move them around |
12:09.39 | Yalla-One | pinotree, Thanks - how could I have missed that one :P |
12:09.52 | pinotree | eheh, np :) |
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12:11.52 | Frost^ | is there a way to report bugs which concern kde's compositing manager or should I report for each application by itself? |
12:13.00 | PieD | Frost^: what kind of bug ? |
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12:13.40 | Frost^ | hmm, all sorts. menu disappearing after second right click on kdesktop, clicking on kopete's swirling tray icon causes X to crash etc. |
12:13.51 | Frost^ | these are all related to the compositing manager though |
12:16.26 | Frost^ | also sometimes windows turn opaque or translucent when they shouldn't |
12:16.42 | Frost^ | shall I report these as kwin bugs or is it beyond that? |
12:18.03 | pinotree | Frost^: dude, the Compisite extension in xorg is EXPERIMENTAL, you know... |
12:18.33 | Frost^ | I know |
12:18.49 | Frost^ | and that can explain some bugs, but I'm not sure about others |
12:19.16 | Frost^ | all in all it seems to be working pretty well |
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12:36.34 | ABRAXAS77 | ghello |
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12:36.40 | ABRAXAS77 | ghow gare gyou? |
12:36.55 | pinotree | ¬.¬ |
12:37.10 | pinotree | kme kfine, kthanks :D |
12:37.42 | ABRAXAS77 | gnome rulz |
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12:38.02 | pinotree | so, why are you herem then? |
12:38.03 | PieD | ABRAXAS77: and can you give arguments ? |
12:38.04 | PieD | too late |
12:38.27 | sredna | Sigh :p |
12:39.05 | PieD | a stupid coward troll |
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12:44.02 | mobtek | PieD: never ever respond to tools :P |
12:44.11 | mobtek | hehe /ignore is your friend |
12:44.12 | PieD | tools ? |
12:44.17 | PieD | didn't you mean trolls ? |
12:44.19 | mobtek | wankers :) |
12:44.27 | mobtek | trolls eat gnomes :P |
12:44.41 | mobtek | ,/joke> |
12:45.57 | PieD | mobtek: I don't find a right definition of tools in my wordbook for that context :/ |
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12:46.45 | mobtek | hehehe |
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12:50.10 | bluelightning | PieD: I'll give you a clue: "tool" refers to a part of the anatomy |
12:50.18 | PieD | ok |
12:50.20 | PieD | I guess |
12:50.39 | mobtek | haha bluelightning |
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13:12.39 | \exit\ | Hello |
13:12.59 | \exit\ | what have kde that not gnome? |
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13:14.52 | koffern | Hi. I am new here, so please guide me to the proper channel if this question is in the wrong channel: Is it possible to archive mutiple levels of a website in a web archive? |
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13:17.19 | \exit\ | only motherfuckers here |
13:20.55 | EasterSunshine | \exit\: that's how you not get replies |
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13:23.52 | mobtek | koffern: yes this is the wrong channel :) |
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13:26.13 | sredna | koffern: The archieve that konqueror can create is just one page |
13:26.22 | sredna | If that is what you was thinking about |
13:26.34 | sredna | Cu all later :) |
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14:09.09 | Blissex2 | I'd like to use one of the Qt built in styles, but to change the color of the currently active tab in a set of tab. Where is some documentation about this or how to do it? |
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14:11.23 | mobtek | Blissex2: somewhere in the Qt docs |
14:12.04 | mobtek | http://doc.trolltech.com/ |
14:13.04 | Blissex2 | mobtek: uhmmm, I know it is somewhere in the docs :-) |
14:13.12 | mobtek | ;) |
14:13.27 | mobtek | oh well metz gavea good answer :) |
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14:55.14 | Or1on | hello. I was going to ask a question about the as-you-type spell checking.. but already found a anwser :p~ ... for some reason I never found the anwser on google before. but today was my lucky day :oD |
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15:09.40 | SavannahLion | When I add links to the kicker panel, I'm having trouble getting drives that need mounting to work properly |
15:10.45 | Blissex2 | SavannahLion: thanks for letting us know. :-) |
15:11.06 | SavannahLion | I've fiddled around within the kickerrc, the share/apps/kicker directory, drag & dropping, but it doesn't seem to want to work. Any ideas on how to get it working properly. |
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15:11.28 | SavannahLion | Blissexs: No problem |
15:12.55 | Blissex2 | SavannahLion: we are sorry, but all our psychic advisors are busy on other lines... :-) |
15:14.12 | SavannahLion | What do you need to know? Links to a drive that needs mounting doesn't work in the kicker panel. Any ideas on how to get it working? |
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15:15.05 | Blissex2 | SavannahLion: and when do they ''work''? (note that so far you have not really said what ''does not work'' means) |
15:17.33 | SavannahLion | Ah, OK. Well, in a directory. You can craft a device link (Mouse Right Click/Create New/Device) that can mount the device as (what I assume) listed in the fstab. The same doesn't appear to be true when creating links in the kicker. There is no option for it, and I'm having trouble figuring out how to manually create the link in the kicker panel or some sort of work around. |
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15:17.34 | thelobster | hey |
15:17.44 | thelobster | anyone running a dual display? |
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15:18.44 | Blissex2 | SavannahLion: I doubt it will work, but have you tried moving the ''link'' what works to the kicker? |
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15:22.14 | SavannahLion | Blissex2: I get a message stating. "Service 'my/path/file' is malformatted." On top of that. The icon shows an application gear icon and seems to refuse to change. I also loose the link through a reboot. |
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15:22.21 | undead | hi |
15:22.29 | thelobster | hey |
15:22.50 | Blissex2 | SavannahLion: those ''links'' are '.desktop' entries and I suppose that only the KDesktop service properly understands the device ones... |
15:22.55 | undead | how do i hook a tty console into my current x session ? |
15:24.06 | thelobster | anyone running dual displays? |
15:24.14 | grepper | fish:/ ? :P |
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15:25.27 | Blissex2 | SavannahLion: however you can run KwikDisk in the Kicker, and that does much the same thing. |
15:29.31 | Ahmuck | nm |
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15:55.00 | whe | hi |
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16:01.16 | hector | hi |
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16:09.24 | NeoFax99 | Anyone know of a good debian repo with kde3.4.2? |
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16:24.55 | pinotree | NeoFax99: which distro for? |
16:25.18 | pinotree | i mean, sarge, etch or sid? |
16:26.19 | NeoFax99 | pinotree: I am currently running Alioths KDE 3.4.1 which are experimental by debians terms. |
16:26.28 | NeoFax99 | I am using MEPIS BTW |
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16:38.01 | Blissex2 | NeoFax99: Kubuntu |
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16:38.35 | Blissex2 | BTW, I think that Kubuntu's 3.4.2 for Hoary are ABI compatible with Debian Sarge... |
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16:58.41 | NeoFax99 | Blissex2: They are incomplete |
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17:13.03 | maisy | hey, is kde more customisable that gnome? |
17:14.15 | maisy | see, i've got this problem that gnome only provides me with colour sets, not much choice if i just want to change a header or something |
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17:18.50 | ii_thea | nick_iithea |
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17:32.11 | Ringwraith` | Warning: Interphasic shield failure. |
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17:33.44 | EasterSunshine | i have been looking for the option to change the horizontal spacing between icons in konqueror but to no avail. anyonE? only four icons fit across my screen, i would like to make it five |
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17:42.35 | IceD^ | EasterSunshine: ? |
17:43.07 | EasterSunshine | in konqueror, when i am browsing my local filesystem, there is an enourmous space between my icons, i want to reduce that space |
17:43.25 | EasterSunshine | and squeeze in a fifth icon on each row |
17:46.24 | IceD^ | ahhh |
17:46.39 | IceD^ | never used konqui as fs browser ;] |
17:46.47 | IceD^ | zsh rocks ;] |
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17:49.36 | EasterSunshine | zsh, is it a shell? |
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17:56.30 | PieD | EasterSunshine: yes, zsh is a shell like bash |
17:57.21 | EasterSunshine | hmm...let me look into it |
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17:58.38 | undead_ | I'm trying to redirect i/o from bash shell at /dev/ttyN to one bash shell at my current x session. Any ideas on how to do it using "exec" ? |
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18:11.53 | Pupeno | Anybody knows how to specify more than one path with rsync using the same first part (for the host) ? something like pupeno@myserver:[/home|/var] |
18:13.52 | Dhraakellian | question: does http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur/ have a popup ad that gets past konqueror's "smart" new window policy for anyone else? |
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18:17.24 | physos | Dhraakellian: no |
18:17.29 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
18:18.12 | physos | Dhraakellian: if you refer to the window appearing when you click "previous". Thats a redirect, no chance to get rid of that if you want to use the web, try an adblocker (KDE 3.5) |
18:18.53 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
18:18.56 | Dhraakellian | that might be it |
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18:41.09 | BlackShuck | Hi all, I have am a new user (from Gnome), but having problems, when I log onto my new KDE 3.4.1 install, I get loads of errors about DCOPServer. |
18:41.22 | BlackShuck | Anyone know the problem? (it's Gentoo 2005.1) |
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18:43.17 | seekHim | Ok, this is getting annoying.... Is there anything I can do for kweather, so that it'll update every hour, and stay current? |
18:43.25 | BlackShuck | It tells me to check the DCOP server is running. How can I check this? |
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18:44.20 | grepper | BlackShuck: ps aux|grep dcop |
18:47.05 | crashbg | can anyone tell me the name of subtitle converter for linux |
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18:47.44 | BlackShuck | hmm, dcop seems to be running.. |
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18:50.16 | BlackShuck | Anything else I need to check? |
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18:53.57 | grepper | BlackShuck: ~/.xsession-errors perhaps, though most of what you find in that file are warnings which can be ignored |
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19:00.54 | Sgep | Hi all |
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19:01.09 | Sgep | On KDE 3.4.0, can I get Konqueror to use libflash? |
19:01.36 | physos | Sgep: if you have a Netscpae plugin using it, yes. |
19:02.06 | physos | Sgep: Konqueror implements the Netscpae plugin interface, so every Mozilla/Netscape plugin works wiht konqi. |
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19:02.27 | physos | Sgep: and I mean plugin not extension. |
19:02.50 | physos | so yes, any flash workign with Gecko should work with konqi |
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19:03.31 | Sgep | ty |
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19:04.14 | odiNg | Hi guys, I have a small problem here and I was ondering If anyone could help me out .. I can't see or acces my second hard disk .. |
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19:07.08 | odiNg | Can anyone help me installing my second hard disk ? |
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19:07.54 | Sgep | odiNg: Did you mount it or put it in /etc/fstab ? |
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19:09.11 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | humz, one question guys |
19:09.26 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | how to enable transparent window? |
19:09.38 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | in kde 3.4 |
19:09.54 | kkrizka_ | you need composite enabled in your xorg.conf |
19:10.01 | kkrizka_ | then tehre is a a option in the control center |
19:10.10 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | hm, little help? :o) |
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19:10.19 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | which line to add |
19:10.19 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | ? |
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19:10.27 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | and where in ixorg? |
19:10.44 | madpenguin8 | AuReUs_ReCtoR: kconfig Desktop -> Window Behavior |
19:10.55 | madpenguin8 | err |
19:10.58 | madpenguin8 | kcontrol |
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19:11.13 | kkrizka_ | http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Using_the_Composite_extension |
19:11.31 | eean | is there a way to do use find and replace to replace with characters like \n? |
19:11.49 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | hm, when i enable transulency, i get some error |
19:11.49 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | ? |
19:12.14 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | error warning, how he will be crashing |
19:12.53 | PieD | AuReUs_ReCtoR: what message exactly ? |
19:13.01 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | ok, i "on" but my windows is same |
19:13.06 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | hm, wait a sec. |
19:14.11 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | www.aureus-rector.net/1/this.png |
19:14.14 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | this error |
19:15.12 | PieD | that's not an error |
19:15.23 | PieD | the icon means that's an information |
19:15.25 | PieD | a warning |
19:15.41 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | mhm .. |
19:15.42 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | ok |
19:15.49 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | but my windows is still same |
19:15.50 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | :o) |
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19:17.50 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | oke, what now? :o) |
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19:18.10 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | kkrizka, what u say for xorg.cong ? |
19:18.16 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | conf* |
19:18.40 | kkrizka_ | http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Using_the_Composite_extension |
19:19.18 | kkrizka_ | that is a good document |
19:19.48 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | ok man, tnx. |
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19:26.54 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | kkrizka, one question .. in this explain write how to add some lines in xorg.conf |
19:27.00 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | can i write on end of file |
19:27.00 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | ? |
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19:27.53 | JoshJoey | hey |
19:28.02 | JoshJoey | for konqueoror |
19:28.15 | JoshJoey | i want to make an icon for it but i want it to open file manager |
19:28.33 | JoshJoey | instead of opening the web |
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19:29.38 | kkrizka_ | kkrizka: yes, put it at the end |
19:29.48 | EasterSunshine | echo" stuff to add to end of file" >> xorg.conf |
19:30.19 | JoshJoey | .. |
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19:32.03 | kkrizka_ | JoshJoey: konqueror /home/username |
19:32.04 | pinotree | JoshJoey: uh? |
19:32.41 | JoshJoey | ty |
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19:34.43 | kkrizka | command in the default icon: kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing |
19:35.00 | hareldvd__ | Hi all, kmid gives me "Could not open /dev/sequencer". Am I missing a kernel module? |
19:35.13 | kkrizka | JoshJoey: that's what gentoo's kde has to open konqueror as a browser |
19:35.55 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | kkrizka, sorry, one more question.. there write to edit some conf of my graphic card: Option "RenderAccel" "true" |
19:35.58 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | where is that file? |
19:36.06 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | in ixor.conf same or? |
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19:38.41 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | Section "Device" |
19:38.42 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | <PROTECTED> |
19:38.42 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | <PROTECTED> |
19:38.42 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | <PROTECTED> |
19:38.42 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | <PROTECTED> |
19:38.42 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | <PROTECTED> |
19:38.44 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | <PROTECTED> |
19:38.46 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | <PROTECTED> |
19:38.48 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | EndSection |
19:38.55 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | here tu put : Option "RenderAccel" "true" |
19:38.57 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | ? |
19:38.59 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | :o) |
19:39.14 | kkrizka | *browser=filemanager |
19:39.14 | kkrizka | hareldvd__: I thjink you need a sequencer, like timidi |
19:39.14 | kkrizka | JoshJoey: sorry wrong icon: kfmclient openProfile filemanagement |
19:39.14 | kkrizka | AuReUs_ReCtoR: search for "Device" section |
19:39.56 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | kkrizka, here ? |
19:40.05 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | in device where is my graphical conf? |
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19:40.28 | Diavolo | Hi |
19:40.39 | Diavolo | i have set some keys on my keyboard to adjust the volume |
19:40.46 | Diavolo | everytime i change the volume, kmix appears |
19:40.57 | Diavolo | is it possible to change volume without kmix showing up? |
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19:42.10 | kkrizka | anywhere there |
19:42.16 | kkrizka | I usually put it at with the other options |
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20:02.29 | Diavolo | http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-315064-highlight-kmix.html |
20:02.32 | Diavolo | Is that a bug? |
20:03.11 | grout | hello, anyone know if i can rotate a Kivio document on it's side? |
20:03.15 | lindenle | Hi how do i tell which kde I am running in debian |
20:03.38 | lindenle | never mind |
20:03.50 | madpenguin8 | kde-config --version |
20:03.51 | pinotree | lindenle: for example, kcontrol --version |
20:03.56 | lindenle | 3.3.2 |
20:04.04 | PieD | lindenle: any about dialog |
20:04.05 | pinotree | lindenle: or via gui, any app Help->About KDE |
20:04.16 | lindenle | all: got it |
20:05.27 | grout | found it! thanks |
20:05.55 | grout | Rotate Kivio Doc: Format->Page Layout |
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20:06.19 | lindenle | anyone know if there are 3.4.2 packages for Debian yet? |
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20:07.15 | pinotree | lindenle: for debian, no iirc |
20:07.40 | lindenle | pinotree: what? |
20:07.54 | pinotree | debian packages for 3.42... |
20:07.57 | lindenle | it has been said that kde3.4 is not really packaged yet, or see http://wiki.debian.net/?Kde34, or not supported anywhere, *particularly* #debian |
20:08.03 | lindenle | found that on #debian |
20:09.07 | pinotree | well, tere are no, iirc |
20:09.17 | pinotree | anyway, you can always ask in #kdebian-qt-kde ;) |
20:09.40 | lindenle | thx |
20:09.59 | lindenle | pinotree: define iirc |
20:10.12 | pinotree | IIRC = If I Recall Correctly |
20:10.29 | lindenle | pinotree: ok thats what i was reading thx again |
20:10.37 | pinotree | np :) |
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20:14.03 | Diavolo | i need help with kmix |
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20:21.31 | SJr | I'm having a problem with KWrite, for whatever reason for the past two days the OpenFile and Save As dialog boxes are taking about 2 minutes to open. |
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20:24.30 | hareldvd__ | kkrizka: Are you still on? |
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20:29.29 | hareldvd__ | Hi all, kmid gives me "Could not open /dev/sequencer". Am I missing a kernel module? |
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20:33.16 | kkrizka | hareldvd__:hi, I was away |
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20:35.01 | kkrizka | hareldvd__:that might help you: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml#doc_chap4 |
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20:43.18 | hareldvd__ | kkrizka: I am just looking into MIDI HOWTO. |
20:43.28 | EasterSunshine | suggestion for devel: can konqueror have a frontend to mount that mounts the current working directory in a specified location? |
20:43.40 | hareldvd__ | I think I do not have the right kernel module supported |
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20:44.10 | hareldvd__ | From what I see I have only ESS sound card drivers. |
20:44.32 | kkrizka | hareldvd__: I'm not sure you need any modules for midi playing other than your soundcard |
20:45.02 | kkrizka | or does your card have a midi synthesizer? |
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20:45.19 | hareldvd__ | kkrizka: I can't find any of /dev/midi or /dev/sequencer. |
20:45.35 | kkrizka | I guess then not, so try timidity++ |
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20:46.35 | hareldvd__ | I saw your recommendateion but I understand timidity++ is a converter to wav files. |
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20:47.15 | kkrizka | I think it's a hardware synthesizer, for the stuff you are missing |
20:47.46 | kkrizka | try it |
20:48.04 | hareldvd__ | Will do. Thanks. |
20:48.40 | hareldvd__ | P.S. I tried playmidi. No success. Do you still think timidity will help? |
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20:49.46 | kkrizka | ya, it shold setup the /dev/sequencer you neer |
20:49.50 | kkrizka | *need |
20:51.59 | hareldvd__ | Any idea, if I enable OSS on kernel, Will that help? |
20:52.20 | kkrizka | no, use alsa |
20:53.49 | hareldvd__ | Is alsa some kind of general support to MIDI? |
20:54.27 | kkrizka | alsa is the linux sound server |
20:54.31 | kkrizka | allows you to play sounds |
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21:38.44 | bolete | What does this destroy? # kdm && exit |
21:39.02 | PieD | ?? |
21:39.07 | PieD | I don't understand you |
21:39.12 | PieD | what's your problem ? |
21:39.31 | PieD | why do you start kdm manually ? |
21:39.49 | bolete | installation testing |
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21:40.43 | bolete | wrecked the video setup |
21:40.53 | PieD | why do you start it by kdm && exit ? |
21:41.03 | PieD | isn't "kdm" enough ? |
21:41.20 | bolete | to try to close the root session |
21:41.35 | PieD | ok |
21:41.49 | PieD | and now, what's your problem ? |
21:41.58 | PieD | it doesn't close the root session ? |
21:42.37 | bolete | black screen on kdm startup |
21:43.04 | eean | if your wanting to test the video setup, use startx instead |
21:43.17 | eean | I've always started kdm from a init script |
21:43.55 | bolete | same black screen from startx now |
21:43.56 | Dhraakellian | heh |
21:44.09 | eean | well, make sure startx is set to start something |
21:44.12 | Dhraakellian | startx /path/to/startkde |
21:44.13 | Dhraakellian | ? |
21:44.15 | eean | no |
21:44.23 | eean | you have to edit the .xinitrc I believe |
21:44.33 | eean | well, something like that |
21:44.41 | Dhraakellian | eean, well, that's a more permanent fix |
21:44.53 | Dhraakellian | but I believe "startx startkde" will work as well |
21:44.58 | eean | oh, I thought startx couldn't take args like that |
21:45.02 | eean | wish I had known that :| |
21:45.50 | eean | by "setup" I guess you mean the one-line change in rc.conf? :P |
21:46.08 | Dhraakellian | ...or something |
21:46.19 | Dhraakellian | whatever was required, I never got around to doing it |
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21:46.28 | eean | well, thats it |
21:46.34 | eean | and then /etc/init.d/xdm start |
21:46.53 | Dhraakellian | and it can be nice on occasions to be able to ctrl+alt+F1 and see what sort of console output you just got |
21:47.12 | eean | ah, its kdm that does that? |
21:47.23 | bolete | I removed, purged, and reinstalled kdm, xdm, x-window-system.(this is debian) |
21:47.25 | Dhraakellian | um? |
21:47.59 | eean | bolete: did you do what Dhraakellian or I said though? :D |
21:48.42 | Dhraakellian | (simply for the ability to scroll up) |
21:48.50 | eean | ah, heh |
21:48.55 | eean | probably so |
21:50.42 | bolete | the best I see is big bars on the x startup, then a lockup after login. I wrecked something important. |
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22:15.03 | pinotree | hey sredna, better than yesterday? |
22:15.29 | sredna | Hi pinotree - I'm not as frustrated today :) |
22:15.38 | pinotree | :) |
22:15.52 | pinotree | are you an acive kate devel? |
22:15.58 | pinotree | active* |
22:16.40 | pinotree | sredna: ^^^ |
22:17.10 | sredna | pinotree: Uhm, I'm not active at the moment |
22:17.18 | pinotree | oh |
22:17.27 | sredna | Except I answer to bug reports and such |
22:17.39 | sredna | But I will be again sometime not to far |
22:18.06 | sredna | You can ask me anything about kate, but I'm not really familiar with the kde4 parts |
22:18.46 | pinotree | oh, nothing so important, just which will be the main improvements in future kate versions... |
22:19.48 | sredna | Bidi, better style handling I think |
22:20.26 | sredna | Apart from that kate is still developing with quite some pace |
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22:29.14 | Mathman | so my panel just up and disappears sometimes. any ideas why that would happen? |
22:30.50 | sredna | You click the hide button? |
22:31.06 | Mathman | nope. |
22:31.15 | sredna | It crashes? |
22:31.26 | Mathman | I disabled the hide button actually. yeah, it crashes is what I'm thinking. |
22:32.04 | sredna | Maybe you have a not well behaved applet |
22:32.32 | sredna | I used one of the pager replacements, but it kept crashing, so I dropped it again |
22:32.35 | Mathman | hmm. I wonder if skype could be the culprit. it's never given me trouble before, but I think I just upgraded the the latest version. |
22:33.28 | Mathman | but then this is a new install of suse as well, so I dunno... |
22:34.33 | Mathman | konversation is pretty sweet by the way. =) |
22:36.37 | Mathman | hehe, I'm actually thinking of writing an irc client. in ocmal. |
22:36.57 | sredna | U mean ocaml |
22:37.01 | Mathman | purely as a learning experience mind you. there's probably not much of a need and all |
22:37.06 | Mathman | yeah, ocaml |
22:37.35 | sredna | There are plenty out there, and some people advocates that KDE should make kopete the default... |
22:38.09 | Mathman | konversation seems very xchat like |
22:38.36 | Mathman | I'd probably hate using kopete. that's kinda like gaim, no? |
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22:39.37 | daddius | hey i have a very simple question for anyone.... What is the K mean in KDE? |
22:39.53 | Mathman | it stands for k desktop environment |
22:40.02 | daddius | yeah i know that part |
22:40.06 | Mathman | far as I know, just k |
22:40.07 | daddius | but saying what is the k |
22:40.49 | Mathman | or maybe it's kde desktop environment. oss guys seem to love the recursive naming and all |
22:41.00 | daddius | lol |
22:41.03 | canllaith | Officially it stands for 'K Desktop Environment' |
22:41.09 | daddius | U just said exactly what my friend said |
22:41.10 | canllaith | There was a rumour going around that it used to stand for 'Kool' |
22:41.19 | canllaith | Take your pick =) |
22:41.23 | daddius | yeah i told him that |
22:41.24 | muesli | Mathman: konversation and xchat are both based on amirc |
22:41.29 | daddius | kook desktop environment |
22:41.29 | muesli | iirc |
22:41.39 | Mathman | muesli: mirc? or amirc? |
22:41.44 | muesli | amiga irc |
22:41.51 | daddius | irssi |
22:41.54 | daddius | :-) |
22:42.11 | muesli | konversation is pretty cool, though <- biased |
22:42.30 | Mathman | muesli: hehe, what did you write it or something? =) |
22:42.47 | sredna | The 'K' is not a 'C' (as in 'CDE') |
22:42.47 | muesli | nah, just a few little things |
22:43.07 | muesli | you can find me in the authors box, though. that's what i meant with biased. |
22:43.25 | Mathman | yeah, that would bias me I figure. =) |
22:44.00 | sredna | (and I didn't write anything more than a bug report for that) |
22:44.08 | muesli | otoh, i wouldn't have hacked on it, if i didn't really think it is cool, right? ;-) |
22:44.17 | muesli | sredna: lol |
22:45.11 | sredna | I really like the image editor, I love not having to start GIMP to do color adjustments, and the blowup feature rocks |
22:46.32 | muesli | yeah, digikam is pretty cool, too |
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22:47.10 | Mathman | hmm, I have a kmix applet, and then a kamix applet. I wonder if that would do it as far as crashing my panel goes... |
22:47.56 | Mathman | k alsa mixer perhaps? |
22:48.00 | sredna | Mathman: That wouldn't hurt afaics |
22:48.27 | sredna | But due to the architecture, if a applet crashes, kicker itself goes down with it |
22:53.05 | sredna | My only problem with digikam is that it wants a single root folder. It's not possible to easily open other folders, and given the size of digital images, my HD will be filled ... |
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22:53.22 | sredna | And then of cause little bugs, but those can easier be fixed |
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22:58.02 | grepper | how do you get rid of compiler warnings like: /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer/Foo.so: Feature Foo already defined in /home/robert/kde-head/lib/kde3/plugins/designer/ , when you have another version installed and are compiling HEAD ? |
22:59.05 | pinotree | grepper: i couldn't |
22:59.18 | pinotree | because both versions are found |
22:59.36 | grepper | thousands of the bloody warnings, makes the logs hard to read |
22:59.38 | pinotree | as both can be found via path and/or env vars |
23:00.44 | Mathman | just take that junk out of your path and whatnot, no? |
23:00.56 | grepper | rm -fr /usr/lib ? :P |
23:01.16 | Mathman | more like vi /etc/ld.so.conf I'd imagine |
23:01.24 | grepper | they are default |
23:01.31 | grepper | not even in ld.so.conf |
23:02.12 | grepper | I tried setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH and running ldconfig, but it didn't make a diff |
23:02.26 | Mathman | <PROTECTED> |
23:02.51 | Mathman | hehe, stupid /usr at the beginning threw me for a loop for a second |
23:03.34 | Mathman | hmm, I guess /usr/lib is what does it though. ok... |
23:03.46 | Mathman | must search subdirectories of /usr/lib when you run ldconfig |
23:03.59 | grepper | yeah |
23:04.18 | Mathman | so make it unreadable for a little bit or something |
23:04.20 | grepper | maybe there is a way to selectively disable such compiler warnings with a g++ switch |
23:08.14 | sredna | grepper: Isn't those warnings from uic? |
23:08.25 | sredna | Just adjust the qt plugin path I think |
23:08.37 | grepper | sredna: ok |
23:08.56 | grepper | there is a env var for that ? |
23:09.36 | grepper | ~/.qt/qtrc I guess |
23:10.22 | grepper | hm, never thought about that, using the same qt for both |
23:12.15 | sredna | But uic needs only the relevant version of the pugins |
23:12.38 | grepper | what would you suggest ? |
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23:15.53 | luminousnerd | Guys, I need a straight answer. How can I get this machine on to 19 others? I don't want something iffy, something that could fail...I need an exact duplicate of the hd....I need to make bootable cds and be able to put them in a machine and restore that one to exactly what the source machine was. Please, answer me do not come up with shortcuts, tell me to use a different distro, or anything of the l |
23:16.06 | luminousnerd | ike. Straight answer please. |
23:17.53 | teatime | right. that'll happen. |
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23:27.15 | atomjack | anyone here use klibido? |
23:27.58 | atomjack | i can't seem to get it to display the list of newsgroups - i downloda the list just fine but it doesn't display them, and there doesn't appear to be ANYWHERE in the program to make it show the list...what am i missing? |
23:28.45 | grepper | libprozac.so |
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23:41.03 | etsw | Hi all. I'm here to volunteer what little I know about KDE to help more people use it. |
23:41.11 | darcy | hello |
23:41.17 | darcy | how are u |
23:41.27 | atomjack | etsw:have you ever used klibido? |
23:41.35 | etsw | Quite well, thank you. How are you? |
23:41.48 | etsw | atomjack: no, I haven't. Should I go look it up? |
23:41.53 | atomjack | nah |
23:41.58 | atomjack | it's a usenet binaries downloader |
23:42.07 | etsw | I have a fairly plain vanilla KDE install on Gentoo. |
23:42.10 | etsw | Ah, I see. |
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23:42.13 | teatime | oh, that one |
23:42.20 | atomjack | but fuck if i can figure out how to get it to display the list of newsgroups it downloaded from giganews. there just seems to be NO way to get it to display the list |
23:42.21 | teatime | crashy thing, isn't it? |
23:42.40 | teatime | sure there is. moment |
23:42.42 | etsw | I also have KOffice and Opera. |
23:42.42 | atomjack | it only crashes when i click "subscribe to newsgroup" |
23:42.44 | atomjack | oooh |
23:42.58 | atomjack | yeah if you know how please tell me. i swear i'm not retarded:) |
23:43.05 | darcy | please i have a problem |
23:43.15 | darcy | can u help me |
23:43.31 | etsw | Since this channel seems quite right now, I should use this moment to say thanks to all who have contributed anything to furthuring KDE. |
23:43.31 | teatime | umm.. |
23:43.33 | atomjack | say your problem and if someone can.. |
23:43.43 | etsw | darcy: what may I do to help you? |
23:43.50 | darcy | ok thx |
23:43.57 | etsw | Actually, I like atomjack's response better. |
23:44.13 | atomjack | teatime, any idea? |
23:44.19 | darcy | i have suse 9.1 and the session defaut is kde |
23:44.38 | darcy | i can start gnome |
23:44.41 | darcy | session |
23:44.51 | darcy | how to ?? |
23:44.54 | atomjack | you want to use gnome instead of kde? |
23:45.06 | darcy | no |
23:45.11 | teatime | atomjack: suddenly, I'm drawing blanks.. |
23:45.12 | darcy | i want change |
23:45.15 | atomjack | gah :( |
23:45.27 | teatime | atomjack: I have gotten it to show me a newsgroup, so I know it's possible.. |
23:45.46 | teatime | it still crashes too much to be usable though |
23:45.48 | atomjack | yeah i did the first time i used it, yesterday, and i subscribed to a newsgroup and started downloading stuff from it, but i dont remember how i did |
23:45.54 | atomjack | it |
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23:46.18 | etsw | darcy, I'm not familiar with Suse. So, my help will be limited. |
23:46.30 | teatime | atomjack: well.. I guess it is through "subscribe to newsgroup.." which crashes it |
23:46.36 | darcy | what is the command fo start fo start gnome |
23:46.38 | atomjack | ahh maybe that's it |
23:46.44 | atomjack | gah, and i can't compile it |
23:46.53 | etsw | darcy, have you tried editing a like ~/.xinitrc or something like that? |
23:47.08 | Dhraakellian | darcy, gnome-session, iirc |
23:47.59 | atomjack | unless someone knows how i cna get by the error configure gives when it says there are no KDE headers installed.. |
23:48.05 | Dhraakellian | then again, I personally don't like things like popcorn and coffee |
23:48.16 | Dhraakellian | atomjack, what distro? |
23:48.21 | atomjack | redhat fc3 |
23:48.35 | Dhraakellian | make sure you have the appropriate -dev packages installed |
23:48.41 | Dhraakellian | or maybe -devel |
23:48.44 | darcy | ok |
23:49.09 | atomjack | which ones do i need? i tried installing kde-devel |
23:49.11 | atomjack | but that doesnt help |
23:49.27 | Dhraakellian | atomjack, dunno |
23:49.27 | atomjack | unless, where would i specify the location to be? |
23:49.34 | darcy | but in kde you cant compile the c programme with gcc |
23:49.45 | Dhraakellian | darcy, wha? |
23:49.52 | Dhraakellian | gcc is gcc |
23:50.12 | atomjack | yeah i think you are mistaken, darcy |
23:50.17 | Dhraakellian | the desktop environment you use has very little to do with what GCC can compile |
23:50.30 | darcy | yes |
23:51.34 | darcy | if i tape gcc -o program.c i have a msg error gcc comand not found |
23:51.46 | thiago | you tape? |
23:51.48 | atomjack | then you dont have gcc installed? |
23:52.06 | Dhraakellian | darcy, or it's somehow not in your $PATH |
23:52.29 | darcy | ok i tay |
23:52.31 | atomjack | type this: |
23:52.34 | atomjack | locate gcc | grep bin |
23:52.40 | darcy | thank you all |
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23:56.55 | etsw | I came here to help, but since it's quieted down, maybe I can get some help. |
23:57.10 | etsw | Has anybody successfully got Kopete to work with IRC? |
23:58.20 | etsw | For me, everytime it connects, it seems to disconnect again right away. |
23:58.36 | sredna | You need to carefully set the properties, like server port, network, server etc |
23:58.53 | etsw | It goes online right away, and offline again quickly. There seem to be no error messages in the system window. |
23:59.00 | sredna | I only did it to prove that it can be done, Dhraakellian ;) |
23:59.11 | etsw | I think that I did set it correctly. I could be wrong. |
23:59.19 | etsw | Dhraakellian: you have a good point. |
23:59.43 | Dhraakellian | kopete is good for what I want/need from other protocols though |
23:59.48 | etsw | I'm only trying to get it set up for convenience, so that I don't have to load up many software packages if I'm in a rush. |