| 00:03.47 | benjamindees | I can't seem to find a way to prevent a user from logging in multiple times with the same account. Is this possible in kde? |
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| 00:09.34 | Bearcat | benJIman|tov: not that i've ever seen |
| 00:09.39 | Bearcat | brb |
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| 00:13.26 | benjamindees | okay well I'll just implement a lockfile in the x server rc files or something |
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| 00:16.44 | sema4 | anyone know how to get konq to veiw a webpage (http://) even though the default browser = mozila? |
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| 00:19.01 | grepper | type a url into the localtion bar ? |
| 00:19.11 | grepper | location* |
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| 00:20.56 | benJIman | grepper: it still opens the default browser iirc |
| 00:21.23 | grepper | in konq's location bar ? |
| 00:21.27 | benJIman | well it used to |
| 00:21.34 | sema4 | grepper: why do you think im asking the Q dude |
| 00:21.36 | Dhraakellian | what KDE/konqueror version |
| 00:21.46 | Dhraakellian | ? |
| 00:21.50 | sema4 | konq = 3.3.2 |
| 00:22.00 | Dhraakellian | I seem to remember having such a problem when I had Firefox set as the default browser |
| 00:22.04 | benJIman | ah it doesn't any more |
| 00:22.06 | Dhraakellian | I can't remember what version it was |
| 00:22.20 | sema4 | ok ... so it's a bug that's been fixed ? |
| 00:22.24 | benJIman | looks like it |
| 00:22.29 | Dhraakellian | sema4, I think so |
| 00:22.35 | grepper | very strange |
| 00:22.44 | benJIman | I know on our machines at uni firefox starts when I type a url into konq address bar which is a bit frustrating |
| 00:22.51 | Dhraakellian | I don't have Firefox set as my default browser anymore, thankfully |
| 00:23.27 | sema4 | my default browser = x-www-browser = firefox :-) |
| 00:23.29 | grepper | how about "konqueror http://foo.bar" -> same behavior ? |
| 00:23.46 | grepper | from term or run applet |
| 00:24.10 | Dhraakellian | okay... i'm going to kcontrol > kde components > component chooser and setting my default browser as FF |
| 00:24.10 | sema4 | creates a konq window (blank) and loads in FF |
| 00:24.12 | Dhraakellian | just to make sure |
| 00:24.41 | benjamindees | you have to change the http protocol handler |
| 00:25.00 | sema4 | obviously ... I have to unset the setting :-) |
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| 00:26.08 | McScruff | is there a way to install shockwave/flash in konqueror? |
| 00:26.47 | grepper | strange |
| 00:26.50 | benjamindees | sema4, sorry but I haven't found a way around that |
| 00:27.45 | benjamindees | McScruff, sure, point it to the netscape plugin directory |
| 00:28.00 | grepper | sema4: 3.3.2 let you set the default browser in kcontrol's component chooser ? |
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| 00:31.36 | Dhraakellian | sema4, yep... confirmed fixed in 3.4.x |
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| 00:33.19 | McScruff | whats the default netscape dir :S |
| 00:36.04 | illogic-al | ~/.netscape? |
| 00:36.27 | McScruff | i dont think i even have it installed |
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| 00:37.04 | benjamindees | /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ perhaps |
| 00:37.14 | McScruff | i know i have that :) |
| 00:37.16 | benjamindees | it's quite system-dependent |
| 00:37.28 | McScruff | i have shockwave working in firefox |
| 00:37.45 | benJIman | there's a shockwave plugin for linux now? |
| 00:38.34 | McScruff | wohoo, i needed to re-scan |
| 00:38.48 | McScruff | it works great |
| 00:38.57 | McScruff | yes there is |
| 00:39.02 | McScruff | i think |
| 00:39.20 | McScruff | nope, just flash |
| 00:39.33 | McScruff | im happy yey |
| 00:39.38 | McScruff | no need to use firefox |
| 00:39.59 | McScruff | i emailed gmaile today and asked them to support konqueror (i hope thats ok) |
| 00:40.47 | McScruff | *gmail |
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| 00:41.22 | AnotherData | i cant play any video/audio cause arts keeps crashing any ideas as to why? |
| 00:41.34 | AnotherData | i can post a feedback |
| 00:41.46 | AnotherData | as to what happened and maybe someone can help me out |
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| 00:44.33 | Mad_Scientist | Dumb question: How do I empty the trash on my desktop? |
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| 00:44.57 | Mad_Scientist | Nevermind- got it. |
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| 00:45.20 | AnotherData | http://rafb.net/paste/results/rvj2k198.html |
| 00:45.29 | AnotherData | anyone care to have a look? |
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| 00:46.37 | AnotherData | im stumped as to why |
| 00:46.55 | AnotherData | use to work a day ago |
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| 00:47.18 | AnotherData | just anytime i open audio/video it crashes |
| 00:48.35 | AnotherData | anyone know? |
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| 00:49.28 | AnotherData | oh well ill try later when someone is around |
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| 00:59.12 | Octane | have you ever used your kde desktop and just realized how beautiful it is? |
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| 01:00.07 | AnotherData | Octane: yes |
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| 01:00.36 | supernix | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.40 | AnotherData | cant wait for 3.5 |
| 01:00.46 | AnotherData | better yet 4 |
| 01:00.52 | Octane | supernix: i do |
| 01:01.00 | Octane | AnotherData: i know, kde 4.0 + newest xorg mmmm :) |
| 01:01.06 | supernix | do you have good luck with getting it to kill spam ? |
| 01:01.08 | AnotherData | yeah sounds sweet |
| 01:01.08 | Octane | i use Kubuntu Hoary though so i gotta wait for breezy |
| 01:01.22 | supernix | I have been trying hard to get Kmail to properly filter spam |
| 01:01.26 | AnotherData | and newest QT |
| 01:01.33 | Octane | supernix: i just recently started using it, its been so-so thus far. ive been having to use the Classify as Spam filter 50% of the time |
| 01:01.47 | Octane | supernix: you know spamassassin is not your only option |
| 01:01.52 | supernix | Unfortunately some mails are still counted as spam even though they are not sort of like the ham feature is not working |
| 01:02.40 | supernix | I actualy have several antispam filters installed but I am only familiar with spamassasin (not that I know how to properly use it though) |
| 01:03.06 | supernix | I tried using Thunderbird with KDE but it just does not work |
| 01:03.26 | supernix | Thunderbird will not filter spam like it is supposed to |
| 01:04.42 | Octane | supernix: have you tried using the classify as spam filter? |
| 01:05.07 | supernix | nah I am very new to Linux |
| 01:05.17 | supernix | still trying to get to know how to use everything |
| 01:06.37 | Octane | supernix: just right click on a spam item and go to apply filter |
| 01:06.41 | Octane | and choose classify as spam |
| 01:07.18 | supernix | what is classify ? |
| 01:07.19 | AnotherData | cya later guys |
| 01:07.23 | supernix | is that a program ? |
| 01:07.28 | AnotherData | supernix: goodluck |
| 01:07.44 | Octane | supernix: no its in the menu ! follow my instructions |
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| 01:08.50 | supernix | ok |
| 01:10.15 | johnny69 | Could someone tell me what file controls the startup programs? (kde 3.4.1/fedora core 3) Thanks |
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| 01:10.56 | Octane | johnny69: what do you mean startup programs? are you talkinga bout the programs that automatically start up when you load kde? |
| 01:11.01 | Octane | or are you talking about starting a program when you start kde? |
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| 01:11.22 | johnny69 | Octane: Sorry...should have been more clear...hold, I'll clarify... |
| 01:12.46 | johnny69 | Specifically, I have Gkrellm starting everytime Kde starts....(and a few other programs) I was wanting to know...what filename refers to these programs? What controls what gets loaded for the default session ? |
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| 01:14.30 | Octane | johnny69: the reason for that is because you have sessions enabled |
| 01:15.04 | Octane | goto control center -> session manager |
| 01:15.06 | Octane | and turn off sessions |
| 01:15.13 | johnny69 | Octane: I don't have a problem with it...everything is getting loaded that I actually want. I need to get to the file that gets all these loaded. I was hoping to change the priority of a few programs. |
| 01:15.20 | straw | look in ~/.kde/share/config/session, johnny69 |
| 01:15.32 | Octane | in the future, should you want gkrellm, for example, starting automatically, put a symlink (ln -s /usr/bin/program program) in ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 01:15.45 | johnny69 | awww..that might help...thanks to both of you. |
| 01:16.22 | Bearcat | Octane: would that duplicate the apps contained in sessions? |
| 01:21.56 | johnny69 | straw: The only thing in that directory your mentioned was a few files, with a long string of numbers for each. Specifically, I was wanting to change the PRIORITY of some of my startup programs. Inparticular, Gkrellm. I was thinking I would probably edit a file somewhere and prefix the line with, "Nice -XX Gkrellm". But I don't know what file to edit. Any ideas how I would go about this? Thanks. |
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| 01:22.07 | Octane | Bearcat: what? adding them in Autostart? |
| 01:22.24 | Octane | Bearcat: i dont like sessions personally and only use Autostart, but just for 2 apps -- gkrellm and kmix |
| 01:23.01 | Bearcat | Octane: yeah. If i put say k3b in autostart and save a session with it running. Will it try to load twice? |
| 01:23.15 | Octane | Bearcat: thats a great question, i'm not sure |
| 01:23.33 | Octane | has anyone here successfuly set up kmail with /var/mail/$user |
| 01:23.38 | Octane | i cant get it working |
| 01:23.46 | Bearcat | i'l ahve to experiment |
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| 01:27.23 | johnny69 | Well, my autostart dir is empty...so nothing to edit there. |
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| 01:28.32 | Quinn_Storm | wow, I forgot how long a full tree kde build takes...my kdesvn-build has been running for almost 24 hours |
| 01:29.15 | madpenguin8 | ouch |
| 01:29.53 | benJIman | what cpu? |
| 01:30.19 | Quinn_Storm | 768 MB ram, 1.2GHz athlon, been using it as a desktop off and on as well |
| 01:32.04 | Quinn_Storm | I had to start my build from scratch b/c of the move to branch |
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| 01:34.10 | benJIman | my athlon64 3200+ seems to build kde about 5 times faster than my 2100+ despite not being that much faster |
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| 01:34.21 | redeeman | hello |
| 01:34.40 | redeeman | is there anyone here that has problems with speed in kde desktop sharing since kde 3.4.0? |
| 01:34.47 | Quinn_Storm | hmm, never used it myself |
| 01:36.00 | Quinn_Storm | I need to get myself a new box...someday |
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| 01:41.24 | illogic-al | mines bigger. |
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| 01:41.38 | Bearcat | mine runs hotter |
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| 01:52.07 | illogic-al | Bearcat: now that I have powernowd working, it probably is. |
| 01:52.19 | Bearcat | lol |
| 01:52.32 | Bearcat | i want to water cool this thing |
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| 01:56.50 | benJIman | Bearcat: why? |
| 01:57.11 | benJIman | Bearcat: stock cooling isfine on them |
| 01:57.17 | Bearcat | i have a lot of dust i my area. I'd like to almost seal this thing and water-cool. |
| 01:57.23 | benJIman | ah |
| 01:57.29 | Bearcat | the dust makes fans a problem |
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| 02:01.44 | redeeman | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110075 |
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| 02:03.42 | benjamindees | what version of kde added a square root button to kcalc? |
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| 02:09.17 | redeeman | damn i might have to downgrade to kde 3.4.0 then |
| 02:10.04 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 02:10.20 | Dhraakellian | is anyone else having trouble with kopete and msn? |
| 02:10.27 | redeeman | works here |
| 02:11.22 | redeeman | gah - ill give the bug a few days, if no one recognizes it i guess ill have to downgrade |
| 02:11.24 | benJIman | Dhraakellian: what version of kopete? |
| 02:11.34 | Dhraakellian | it tells me that my password was wrong |
| 02:11.48 | Dhraakellian | 0.10.3 |
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| 02:12.24 | benJIman | wfm, am using 0.10.90 though |
| 02:12.54 | benJIman | knowing msn's uptime it could just be their login servers down again |
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| 02:14.48 | Dhraakellian | benJIman, it's not just now |
| 02:15.00 | Dhraakellian | since I upgraded to KDE 3.4.2, I think |
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| 03:01.10 | illogic-al | Dhraakellian: having fun? |
| 03:01.33 | Dhraakellian | illogic-al, changing a calc in #amarok |
| 03:01.53 | illogic-al | heh |
| 03:04.44 | benjamindees | is there a way to run a script as the user on logoff? with kdm? |
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| 03:05.48 | benjamindees | everything I've found seems to do 'exec startkde' which sort of precludes it :( |
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| 03:13.39 | forlorn | benjamindees: kde has a shutdown folder |
| 03:13.52 | forlorn | you can place shutdown scripts in there |
| 03:15.50 | benjamindees | okay, trying now |
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| 03:19.52 | breakthestate | if anybody want to look at my rather wordy (probably ignorant) question, i just pasted it in #paste |
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| 03:21.06 | Alethes | you realize nobody is going to see it if they're not already there, right? heh |
| 03:21.46 | breakthestate | nope, but i do now |
| 03:21.46 | breakthestate | sry |
| 03:22.08 | Alethes | hehe |
| 03:22.15 | Alethes | you could just post it here, y'know |
| 03:22.23 | breakthestate | yeah, just a little nervous |
| 03:22.37 | breakthestate | many times even after i google to the best of my ability i get lambasted |
| 03:23.02 | Alethes | why would you be nervous? |
| 03:23.21 | Alethes | 'cause somebody gives you a hard time for not going to google? |
| 03:23.25 | Alethes | who cares what people think? |
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| 03:23.42 | breakthestate | ok, here's my question |
| 03:23.55 | breakthestate | i'm using kde 3.3.2 on mepis 3.1.1. I pretty much have all of my browsers configured so that when a URL is called from an external application or called from a hotlink in a chatroom (is this the same thing?), it will open in a new tab. I like this feature a lot, but when i'm using multiple destkops and i want to see the URL right away, it opens up in a new tab in a browser 1 or 2 desktops away. is there any way I can configure th |
| 03:24.02 | jmspeex | Has anyone else seen kicker crash all the time when running 2.6.12? |
| 03:24.53 | Alethes | konq usually opens the link in a new window on the same desktop if the browser is on a different desktop |
| 03:24.55 | Alethes | at least for me |
| 03:25.19 | breakthestate | gotcha, i'm actually a huge fan of opera and firefox |
| 03:25.30 | Alethes | I don't know if there's a way to configure it one way or the other, though |
| 03:25.38 | Alethes | it just did it that way for me |
| 03:25.47 | Alethes | I'm sorry :( heh |
| 03:25.48 | benjamindees | thanks to whomever told me about the shutdown folder; works great :) |
| 03:25.48 | breakthestate | gotcha |
| 03:26.21 | Alethes | you might be able to cause kwin to move the window to the active desktop when it loads a new link |
| 03:26.53 | Alethes | don't know how that'd be done though |
| 03:27.10 | breakthestate | yeah, oh well, the more i use the KDE, the more i want |
| 03:27.11 | benjamindees | jmspeex, video driver maybe? try disabling dri/glx |
| 03:27.11 | Alethes | maybe a bash script that does a combination of moving the window to the active desktop with dcop and loading a url in a new tab |
| 03:27.49 | jmspeex | benjamindees: runs fine with 2.6.10 though. |
| 03:28.02 | breakthestate | so, it would move the whole window from desktop 1 to my current one, with all the tabs from my Desktop 1? |
| 03:28.02 | benjamindees | I've lost the setting for the default calendar resource (in control center) Could anyone tell me where it should go? |
| 03:28.14 | breakthestate | i guess that would be better than what happens now |
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| 03:29.39 | breakthestate | well, i'll start reading about how to write bash scripts, he |
| 03:29.49 | Jondo | Does anyone know why I need qt4 compiled -debug for kde? |
| 03:30.33 | Alethes | so your console can be flooded with useless information |
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| 03:34.27 | mortal5 | hi guys, can anyone tell me where the "compile button is in kdevelope? |
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| 03:42.04 | Octane | where can i find a list of all the special url's i can have in konqui? (ie ssh:foo ftp:foo etc) |
| 03:45.02 | benjamindees | under 'web shortcuts' in the configuration |
| 03:45.10 | benjamindees | the konq config that is |
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| 03:48.19 | _markus | here's any easy question from a linux newbie: how do I get a command prompt if my GUI is frozen? |
| 03:50.17 | benJIman | ctrl-alt-f1 |
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| 03:55.13 | redeeman | anyone here that are familiar with the media kioslave? |
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| 04:01.48 | mortal5 | anyone here use kdevelop? |
| 04:12.49 | Bearcat | wtf? |
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| 04:16.07 | Aji-Dahaka | noone |
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| 04:23.27 | jcw | In the (right click) K->Panel Menu->Configure Panel->Layout->Menus, what does "Show Side Image" do? I expected it to disable the icons to the left of the K menu entries. Or do I have to restart KDE before I would see that take effect? |
| 04:24.08 | jcw | Gentoo, KDE 3.4.2, incidently. |
| 04:26.50 | Dhraakellian | jcw, you see that long, tall image on the left side of the kmenu? |
| 04:27.12 | jcw | Yea. |
| 04:27.16 | jcw | That's what it effects, eh? |
| 04:27.50 | jcw | Yea, I see that now. OK, is there a way to disable the icons to the left of each menu entry? |
| 04:28.34 | Aji-Dahaka | that would be so good! |
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| 04:29.36 | Aji-Dahaka | I don't think the option exists yet, though |
| 04:29.46 | Aji-Dahaka | (file a wish) |
| 04:30.00 | jcw | Otay. |
| 04:30.13 | jcw | I think it can be done by creating a custom theme, but that's like, work, you know? |
| 04:30.49 | Aji-Dahaka | I know |
| 04:31.03 | Aji-Dahaka | I like the plastik look myself |
| 04:31.20 | jcw | I do also. A friend of mine in another channel is trying to get it to like fvwm or something. |
| 04:31.30 | Aji-Dahaka | the default options aren't to my taste but ... |
| 04:32.48 | jcw | He also wants to be able to drag windows between desktops. |
| 04:33.05 | Aji-Dahaka | you can do that |
| 04:33.13 | Aji-Dahaka | active desktop borders |
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| 04:33.25 | jcw | I don't use drag'n'drop for anything. How's that done? |
| 04:33.50 | Aji-Dahaka | jas |
| 04:34.12 | jcw | jas? |
| 04:34.18 | jcw | oh, n/m. |
| 04:34.48 | Aji-Dahaka | window behaviour -> advanced |
| 04:36.04 | jcw | Cool. Thank you much. |
| 04:36.21 | Aji-Dahaka | :) |
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| 04:37.21 | Bearcat | can some one give me a hand. "kdestart" is not being executed when i log in via kdm. I think it may be a setting in the (huge) /etc/kde/kdm.conf file. Can someone point me in the right direction? |
| 04:38.49 | Aji-Dahaka | startkde, you mean? |
| 04:39.02 | Bearcat | err..yeah :) |
| 04:39.25 | Bearcat | when i log in all i see is a xterm on the left-upper corner of the screen. |
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| 04:40.00 | grepper | Bearcat: you are selecting a session first ? |
| 04:40.05 | Bearcat | grepper: yes |
| 04:40.30 | Aji-Dahaka | Bearcat: in that terminal does typing startkde work? |
| 04:40.56 | Bearcat | it worked in 3.4.1, but when u upgraded to 3.4.2 my /etc/kde/kdm.conf got replaced. |
| 04:41.07 | jcw | What distro? |
| 04:41.07 | Bearcat | Aji-Dahaka: yes |
| 04:41.17 | Bearcat | sourcemage (gentoo like) |
| 04:41.18 | grepper | does a $<sessionname>.desktop exist ? |
| 04:41.24 | Bearcat | yes |
| 04:41.57 | grepper | where ? |
| 04:42.17 | Bearcat | /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop |
| 04:42.37 | grepper | does the file look ok ? |
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| 04:43.36 | Bearcat | grepper: yeah, it looks fine |
| 04:43.56 | Aji-Dahaka | any messages in the xsession errors file? |
| 04:45.07 | grepper | what distro ? |
| 04:45.25 | Bearcat | sourcemage (gentoo like) |
| 04:45.36 | Bearcat | fhs complient |
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| 04:45.48 | grepper | Bearcat: grep SessionsDirs in your kdmrc |
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| 04:46.12 | Bearcat | thanx for the help so far folks :) |
| 04:47.14 | grepper | yeah, and the logs are user's ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/kdm.log or somesuch |
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| 04:47.22 | Bearcat | #SessionsDirs=/etc/X11/sessions,/usr/share/xsessions |
| 04:47.26 | Bearcat | it's commented out |
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| 04:48.16 | Aji-Dahaka | maybe specifing that would work? |
| 04:49.25 | grepper | should say in a comment what the default is |
| 04:50.46 | Bearcat | should that then be set to /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions/ i assume? |
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| 04:50.58 | Bearcat | (where my kde.desktop is) |
| 04:51.37 | grepper | I have a feeling its not set cause that is the default, but you can try setting it, yes |
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| 04:51.58 | grepper | but, I don't think it would even show up in kdm's list unless the TryExec line worked |
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| 04:52.12 | grepper | so it must be finding *a* kde.desktop file |
| 04:52.22 | grepper | does locate kde.desktop find any others ? |
| 04:52.40 | Bearcat | ahh, /usr/share/apps/kdm is the default |
| 04:52.58 | grepper | yeah |
| 04:53.08 | grepper | seems its finding it ok - check the logs |
| 04:53.39 | jcw | Aji-Dahaka, thanks again for your help. I'm outta here, and off to bed. My friend passes along his thanks for getting dragging working. |
| 04:53.54 | Aji-Dahaka | lata |
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| 04:54.17 | Bearcat | thanx all. |
| 04:54.23 | Bearcat | i'll brb |
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| 05:08.49 | AnotherData | i keep getting a error 30-40 of them at a time that arts has crashed |
| 05:08.56 | AnotherData | and it wont stop |
| 05:09.21 | AnotherData | and i use to be able to play videos and now i cannot |
| 05:09.33 | AnotherData | any ideas? |
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| 05:15.30 | Bearcat | no luck, but then since the defualt looked correct, i'm not surprised |
| 05:17.14 | Bearcat | everythng in /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions is owned by root:root. Is that apporpreate? |
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| 05:32.28 | rkroetch | I just compiled Qt from qt-copy and am trying to compile the SVN 3.5 branch. I get this error however "libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libqt-mt.la' is not a valid libtool archive" -- Qt is installed into /usr/lib/qt/ and QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt with /usr/lib/qt/lib added to my ld path. |
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| 06:09.10 | kendrick | buttons like zoom-in and zoom-out in KDE, the kind that have little drop-down arrows, is there a technical term for those? |
| 06:09.16 | kendrick | i want to call them "drop-down buttons" :) |
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| 06:17.15 | forlorn | kendrick: sounds good |
| 06:17.20 | kendrick | ok :) |
| 06:17.32 | mobtek | kendrick: button menus? |
| 06:17.39 | kendrick | hrm |
| 06:17.44 | kendrick | meh |
| 06:17.47 | kendrick | i like the former better ;) |
| 06:17.56 | kendrick | you don't sound too confident, either...heheh |
| 06:18.29 | mobtek | well I'm looking at one in kpdf |
| 06:18.51 | mobtek | which opens a menu of the recently opened documents |
| 06:19.10 | kendrick | i'm looking at the "g" and "i" buttons on the Konq Google Toolbar |
| 06:19.56 | forlorn | default action dropdown menu |
| 06:20.24 | kendrick | guh :) |
| 06:20.34 | mobtek | heheh |
| 06:20.36 | kendrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.30 | forlorn | i'ma choose for ya menu |
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| 06:26.08 | mobtek | http://www.tuxmagazine.com/TUX_Readers_Choice |
| 06:26.08 | mobtek | go voteski |
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| 06:41.21 | TheMerovingian | handling a legacy terminal application which uses "printer escape" sequences to print reports and etc to the attached dot matrix printer - using konsole as the terminal printer - except - it doesnt honour the printer escape sequences - rxvt does - is there any config thingie that i am missing ? |
| 06:41.37 | TheMerovingian | konsole and associated kde libraries - from standard mandrake 10.0 installation |
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| 06:46.00 | sangeli | Hi, does anyone know how to start kopete, when you have it in the system tray and due to failure of NIC it does not start? |
| 06:48.10 | sangeli | anybody in this channel? |
| 06:48.50 | Aji-Dahaka | noone, actually |
| 06:48.51 | grepper | um, if its in the system tray its started, no ? |
| 06:49.29 | Aji-Dahaka | seems changing the status would make it try to sign on, if that is what you want? |
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| 06:50.07 | sangeli | Usually yes, but when at first NIC fails and then works again, it does not connects automatically but sits in the tray as disconnected. So, I do not havre a button like "Reconnectr" |
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| 06:51.45 | rkroetch | Anyone have any ideas what is causing this error? http://pastebin.com/328171 |
| 06:53.28 | Aji-Dahaka | sangeli: set status offline and then back online? |
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| 06:55.12 | Aji-Dahaka | rkroetch: linking error...maybe wrong version of library maybe? |
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| 06:55.37 | rkroetch | Aji-Dahaka: It ./configure'd fine |
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| 06:56.21 | rkroetch | Aji-Dahaka: I am using GCC 4.0.1... but I would think kdelibs at least should compile |
| 06:57.07 | Aji-Dahaka | they did compile |
| 06:57.12 | Aji-Dahaka | just not link |
| 06:58.48 | rkroetch | Aji-Dahaka: Any ideas on a sollution to attempt? |
| 06:59.02 | Aji-Dahaka | is this an svn version? |
| 06:59.36 | rkroetch | Aji-Dahaka: Yes |
| 06:59.48 | rkroetch | 3.5 tree just updated about 2 hours ago |
| 06:59.50 | Aji-Dahaka | try updating again? |
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| 07:00.20 | name773 | how do i automatically sort icons in kde 3.4? |
| 07:00.25 | Aji-Dahaka | mine from 5 hours ago was successful |
| 07:00.32 | Aji-Dahaka | name773: desktop icons? |
| 07:00.35 | name773 | yeah |
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| 07:00.44 | rkroetch | External at revision 442560. At revision 442559. |
| 07:00.47 | rkroetch | And it didn't grab any files |
| 07:00.51 | grepper | rkroetch: you compiled and installed arts ok ? |
| 07:00.58 | name773 | a few get messed up when i log out and log back in |
| 07:01.05 | rkroetch | grepper: Arts is in the kdelibs now, is it not? |
| 07:01.09 | grepper | no |
| 07:01.12 | rkroetch | grepper: Otherwise... that... *sighs* |
| 07:01.21 | sangeli | Aji-Dahaka: It does not solve the problem |
| 07:01.25 | grepper | you need to checkout and compile / install arts first |
| 07:01.49 | name773 | and anyone know if there's a way to only show certain device icons? like sdb* but not sda* |
| 07:02.01 | sangeli | #Aji-Dahaka: It does not solve the problem |
| 07:02.19 | rkroetch | Is the 1.5 branch of arts still QT 3? |
| 07:02.21 | Aji-Dahaka | grepper: good catch |
| 07:02.52 | Aji-Dahaka | sangeli: not sure. I just started using it 3 days ago |
| 07:03.00 | grepper | name773: kcontrol->desktop->behavior |
| 07:04.12 | sangeli | Aji-Dahaka: I see. I guess, I have to close the application and open it again. |
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| 07:09.05 | rkroetch | Thanks grepper, Aji-Dahaka -- as I'm currently trying to link against an old version of Arts, this should work :) |
| 07:10.23 | Aji-Dahaka | rkroetch: and you shouldn't have to rebuild kdelibs :) |
| 07:10.34 | Aji-Dahaka | the beauty of dynamic linking |
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| 07:10.58 | sangeli | anybody using Konversation as client |
| 07:11.35 | rkroetch | Rawr! arts won't compile this time *growls* |
| 07:11.35 | Aji-Dahaka | poeple keep telling me about it saying it's good |
| 07:13.17 | name773 | grepper: it only says show/don't show hard disks, not which ones to show or not |
| 07:13.29 | name773 | sangeli: i am |
| 07:13.32 | rkroetch | ": undefined reference to `__gnu_cxx::__exchange_and_add(int volatile*, int)'" is in there... grar... |
| 07:15.16 | Aji-Dahaka | name773: I think it only shows the ones in fstab and mtab or something like that |
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| 07:15.51 | name773 | an so no pattern matching |
| 07:15.56 | name773 | s/an/ah |
| 07:16.19 | Aji-Dahaka | feel free to add it, mate |
| 07:16.27 | name773 | i only know php |
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| 07:17.05 | Aji-Dahaka | no time to learn better than the present |
| 07:17.48 | Aji-Dahaka | kompose is so cool |
| 07:18.16 | sangeli | name773: I am evaluating it. I have been using X-Chat. Is there a way to obtain a Vertical line that separates all niknames like in X-Chat' It is so confusing now to see all text flowting around without any kind of formatting. Also, any way to remove the < > around the nikname of users? |
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| 07:18.37 | name773 | i have no idea, sorry |
| 07:19.06 | sangeli | What are you using as chat client? |
| 07:19.20 | sangeli | X-Chat, Konversation ...? |
| 07:19.31 | name773 | konversation |
| 07:19.31 | sangeli | name773, thanks |
| 07:19.38 | AvatarofVirgo | I need a little help with Colors & Fonts. How do I get Kopete to show a users back ground color? I'm talking to my cousin on AIM and it's only showing his font color not his foreground color. |
| 07:19.41 | name773 | i don't use it often |
| 07:19.49 | sangeli | I see |
| 07:19.56 | sangeli | let me try other users |
| 07:20.10 | sangeli | What are you buys using as chat client? |
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| 07:20.17 | sangeli | What are you guys using as chat client? |
| 07:20.20 | Aji-Dahaka | irssi! |
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| 07:20.28 | AvatarofVirgo | Kopete. |
| 07:20.37 | rkroetch | Kopete |
| 07:20.59 | sangeli | anybody using x-chat or konversation? |
| 07:21.15 | mobtek | konvi! |
| 07:21.21 | Aji-Dahaka | I used to use x-chat. |
| 07:21.50 | AvatarofVirgo | ctcp version the room that should get some people's attention. |
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| 07:22.08 | sangeli | Aji-Dahaka, what happened then? |
| 07:22.24 | Aji-Dahaka | decided irssi was better for me |
| 07:22.49 | sangeli | i see |
| 07:23.13 | Aji-Dahaka | irssi for me is easy-to-use and very stable |
| 07:23.20 | Aji-Dahaka | 02:27 Irssi uptime: 77d 2h 9m 51s |
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| 07:25.46 | name773 | it's funny how computer gurus and drug addicts are both called users |
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| 07:28.35 | jeh_work | damn, i wanted to open an .ui with designer from a fish:/ source. didn't really work :) |
| 07:29.01 | jeh_work | it just said "you f00l, can't do that!1!" |
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| 07:29.48 | Aji-Dahaka | wow, my k4 build attempt: |
| 07:29.48 | Aji-Dahaka | <<< PACKAGES SUCCESSFULLY BUILT >>> |
| 07:29.48 | Aji-Dahaka | qt-copy |
| 07:29.54 | Aji-Dahaka | only that |
| 07:30.00 | Aji-Dahaka | all the others failed |
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| 07:37.22 | arrummzen | I have a problem. I am trying to use a program called "knosole" to execute commands, but all output from commands I type as well as my typeing is not visable. When I shade and unshade the window the ouptut is visable, but new output is not. |
| 07:37.30 | arrummzen | What is the resolution to this issue? |
| 07:37.37 | arrummzen | Note that it doesn ot occure with xterm. |
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| 07:43.45 | peppelorum | arrummzen: you mean 'konsole' right? |
| 07:44.17 | arrummzen | oops. yea |
| 07:44.19 | arrummzen | Sorry about that one |
| 07:45.01 | peppelorum | arrummzen: so you can't see anything you write in the konsole, have I understood you right? |
| 07:45.35 | arrummzen | Yea, when I start konsole, I see a bash prompt, then when I type say ls, I don't see ls after the bash prompt. |
| 07:45.43 | peppelorum | arrummzen: setttings->schema could be a solution for you |
| 07:45.50 | peppelorum | and change the color scheme |
| 07:46.21 | arrummzen | Changeing the schema does fix the problem, (ig I see what I should see), but I don't want to have to change the scheme after every command. |
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| 07:46.38 | arrummzen | ig. it just causes the output to draw, but no new output shows up. |
| 07:46.53 | peppelorum | arrummzen: odd |
| 07:48.19 | arrummzen | I think it may be a problem with my X server. (If no one in #kde knows about it). |
| 07:49.44 | Aji-Dahaka | arrummzen: save it as default? |
| 07:49.57 | Aji-Dahaka | if it's just the one schema that's bad |
| 07:50.18 | arrummzen | Aji-Dahaka, No its all schemas. Changeing schemas cause it to redraw. |
| 07:51.22 | arrummzen | It didn't happen before I switched to Xorg. |
| 07:51.32 | Aji-Dahaka | hmm...weird |
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| 08:01.58 | m0ns00n | Hey |
| 08:02.25 | m0ns00n | when will the scrollbars in DIVs with overflow: auto be drawn properly in Konqueror? |
| 08:03.09 | Aji-Dahaka | try it and see? |
| 08:03.11 | arrummzen | What is a DIV? |
| 08:03.14 | Aji-Dahaka | ideally they are |
| 08:03.20 | Aji-Dahaka | arrummzen: <div> |
| 08:03.28 | arrummzen | Oh |
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| 08:25.06 | AnotherData | arts crashes everytime i open a video |
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| 08:26.28 | psq | hello |
| 08:26.32 | AnotherData | hi |
| 08:26.44 | psq | i'm using freebsd 5.4-STABLE and KDE 3.4.1 |
| 08:27.04 | psq | i have a problem with ldap searches in kaddressbook |
| 08:27.08 | AnotherData | psq: since your the only one thats talkin in here do you think you can help me? |
| 08:27.36 | psq | AnotherData, huh, i'm came for help too ;) |
| 08:27.42 | AnotherData | hehe |
| 08:27.47 | AnotherData | good luck |
| 08:27.58 | psq | thanks |
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| 08:37.01 | kolla | hm, with 3.4.2 I have problems with $HOME on nfs |
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| 08:49.17 | brotheris | hello |
| 08:49.27 | brotheris | been trying out kde and have one question |
| 08:49.44 | brotheris | is there a way to move systray to external taskbar ? |
| 08:50.14 | kolla | hm |
| 08:50.48 | kolla | dont know, I've tried to remove the darn thing completely without much success |
| 08:51.15 | grepper | no, but you can add a child panel, add a task bar to it, and add a systray to it |
| 08:51.31 | grepper | which would more or less accomplish the same thing |
| 08:51.44 | brotheris | a, good idea! thanks |
| 08:51.57 | grepper | np |
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| 08:53.08 | pinotree | hello =) |
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| 08:59.46 | shad0w1e | is there a quick way to share a folder using KDE? |
| 08:59.51 | shad0w1e | onto Samba that is |
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| 09:01.59 | shad0w1e | ah forget it... |
| 09:02.59 | miklos | Hi all! |
| 09:04.11 | thechris | syn/ack, miklos |
| 09:06.36 | miklos | ? |
| 09:07.21 | thechris | its a lame greeting based upon tcp-ip |
| 09:07.47 | thechris | client send SYN. server replies SYN/ACK, client confirms with ACK |
| 09:09.32 | miklos | okay |
| 09:13.32 | AnotherData | lmao |
| 09:15.38 | AnotherData | can anyone help me with an arts problem |
| 09:15.40 | AnotherData | ? |
| 09:16.19 | thechris | you use arts? |
| 09:16.28 | AnotherData | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:16.36 | thechris | hmm. interesting |
| 09:16.46 | AnotherData | everytime i try to play a video it crashes |
| 09:17.58 | AnotherData | it use to work fine |
| 09:17.59 | thechris | what distro? |
| 09:18.14 | AnotherData | slackware 10.1 |
| 09:18.26 | thechris | what player? |
| 09:18.30 | AnotherData | kaboodle |
| 09:18.47 | thechris | try opening konsole and executing kaboodle from it |
| 09:18.50 | AnotherData | ok |
| 09:18.55 | thechris | it should allow you to see messages |
| 09:19.16 | AnotherData | kaboodle opens fine but its when i open a video |
| 09:19.45 | AnotherData | care to see the backtrace? |
| 09:20.35 | AnotherData | http://rafb.net/paste/results/VX3NCA85.html |
| 09:20.38 | thechris | sure. channel seems to want to use a ... |
| 09:20.39 | thechris | ok |
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| 09:21.39 | thechris | do any updates recently |
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| 09:21.50 | AnotherData | erm i installed kmplayer |
| 09:21.51 | Zaki | hi :) |
| 09:21.56 | AnotherData | updates as to..? |
| 09:22.05 | AnotherData | i updated to kde 3.4.2 |
| 09:22.14 | AnotherData | still it worked |
| 09:22.18 | Zaki | is it possible to make kde virtual desktops can hold different files on them? |
| 09:22.19 | thechris | does this also updates arts? |
| 09:22.23 | AnotherData | just like a day ago when i had 3.4.2 |
| 09:22.26 | AnotherData | yeah |
| 09:22.29 | grepper | does kaffeine work AnotherData ? |
| 09:22.35 | AnotherData | i never tried kaffeine |
| 09:22.50 | AnotherData | not installed |
| 09:22.53 | grepper | also uses xine |
| 09:23.09 | redeeman | i use kaffeine |
| 09:23.21 | thechris | persoanlly i've never liked arts. i just use an old aureal vortex 2 with hardware mixing |
| 09:23.48 | thechris | and when i don't use the vortex, i use dmix |
| 09:23.57 | AnotherData | hmm does anything look suspicious in the backtrace as to why its crashing? |
| 09:24.51 | grepper | Zaki: no, I don't think so |
| 09:25.19 | thechris | update libxine recently? |
| 09:25.24 | AnotherData | i need to figure this out soon |
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| 09:25.34 | AnotherData | not that i know of |
| 09:26.33 | thechris | did anything come up in the konsole? |
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| 09:26.51 | AnotherData | nope |
| 09:26.57 | thechris | hmm. odd. |
| 09:27.00 | AnotherData | just a popup saying arts has crashed |
| 09:27.18 | thechris | what other players do you have? |
| 09:27.42 | AnotherData | xine totem noatun kmplayer |
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| 09:29.39 | thechris | try loading them from konsole and seeing if they give better messages |
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| 09:29.46 | thechris | and if they all crash in similar ways |
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| 09:29.49 | AnotherData | ok |
| 09:30.14 | AnotherData | xine said Segmentation fault |
| 09:30.17 | AnotherData | and quit |
| 09:31.03 | AnotherData | kmplayer wont even play a file |
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| 09:31.30 | xanax | hi |
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| 09:32.51 | AnotherData | noatun made it crash like crazy |
| 09:33.05 | AnotherData | crashed like 30 times |
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| 09:33.15 | thechris | what version of arts? 1.1.3? |
| 09:33.55 | AnotherData | http://rafb.net/paste/results/Q5aUyp56.html |
| 09:33.57 | AnotherData | 1.4.2 |
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| 09:34.14 | shad0w1e | how do I edit the K menu for "all users" ? |
| 09:35.11 | AnotherData | however arts orks for amaroK |
| 09:35.15 | AnotherData | works* |
| 09:35.45 | thechris | hmm. not sure on this one. you might try googling for arts and the other apps. |
| 09:35.50 | thechris | or adopt amarok |
| 09:35.53 | thechris | or dmix |
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| 09:35.59 | AnotherData | i may just reinstall slackware |
| 09:36.44 | AnotherData | ive never had luck with google |
| 09:36.45 | thechris | oh, possible check any bugzilla sites for slackware about arts related issues |
| 09:37.03 | thechris | or maybe even update arts to a newer version if possible. |
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| 09:37.46 | AnotherData | its the newest version |
| 09:37.48 | thechris | i can't tell because gentoo for some reason decided to name all kde apps by the kde version they are associated with... |
| 09:38.31 | thechris | what soundcard do you have? |
| 09:38.39 | AnotherData | er jus a sec |
| 09:39.31 | AnotherData | ES1371 - ALSA Device |
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| 09:41.22 | dv__ | hello. |
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| 09:42.15 | thechris | hmm. i can't seem to find if the card has a built in hardware mixer |
| 09:42.53 | AnotherData | itdoes i think |
| 09:43.05 | AnotherData | it says mixers: Cirrus Logic |
| 09:43.30 | AnotherData | Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 |
| 09:43.36 | xanax | i heard that kde 3.5 will feature a "popup window" that would be displayed each time a media is mounted. is it right ? |
| 09:44.11 | thechris | xanax: i beleive you are correct |
| 09:44.12 | AnotherData | yeah if you have HAL installed |
| 09:44.21 | AnotherData | and a 2.6 kernel |
| 09:44.45 | thechris | AnotherData: if the card does hardware mixing you will be able to turn off arts in the kde control center |
| 09:44.52 | AnotherData | cool |
| 09:44.54 | AnotherData | ill try |
| 09:45.08 | longy | AnotherData: Is it possible on kde 3.4? |
| 09:45.09 | thechris | the mixer is what allows you to play 2+ sounds |
| 09:45.18 | AnotherData | yes |
| 09:45.27 | AnotherData | with a progam called KAY |
| 09:46.11 | AnotherData | i dont see arts in control center |
| 09:46.24 | AnotherData | i see alsa oss etc |
| 09:46.29 | thechris | AnotherData: it is listed as "Sound" |
| 09:46.34 | pinotree | AnotherData: kcontrol -> sound & multimedia -> sound server |
| 09:46.50 | AnotherData | i see sound system |
| 09:46.50 | thechris | if you turn off sound you disable arts, but alsa, oss, dmix, esd all would work |
| 09:47.19 | AnotherData | it says select the audio device and i have it on autodetect |
| 09:49.27 | thechris | i'm in fluxbox right now, so i don't know what my control center says |
| 09:49.41 | thechris | there should be an option to disable sound system though |
| 09:49.43 | AnotherData | hmm |
| 09:49.45 | AnotherData | yeah |
| 09:49.46 | AnotherData | there is |
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| 09:52.17 | AnotherData | ok amarok plays with sound disabled |
| 09:52.26 | AnotherData | in control center |
| 09:54.28 | thechris | well, you have to play 2 sounds |
| 09:54.31 | thechris | at the same time |
| 09:55.52 | AnotherData | arts is still crashing |
| 09:56.08 | AnotherData | kaffeine requires kde 3.3 only right? |
| 09:56.37 | thechris | hmm, do a ps -aux | grep arts |
| 09:56.44 | thechris | or a killall arts |
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| 09:57.00 | thechris | make sure arts is actually gone |
| 09:57.14 | AnotherData | no process killed |
| 09:57.25 | AnotherData | bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus |
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| 09:57.31 | AnotherData | its what it said |
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| 09:57.47 | GraveDigger | hello there |
| 09:57.52 | RalfG | strange: ftp://ftp.debian.de unstable/main delivers kdelibs4 4:3.3.2-7, but no matching version of kmail - hence it sticks to 4:3.3.2-6.1 and segfaults |
| 09:57.56 | AnotherData | not showing in top |
| 09:58.13 | mdouhan | kdelibs4 heh :) |
| 09:58.19 | GraveDigger | could any please help me? kdetv is not running, saying that the video plugin is unable to show any video - however, tvtime works great |
| 09:58.24 | mdouhan | is that the kdelibs4 that is actually kdelibs3 |
| 09:58.31 | AnotherData | i killed kswapd earlier cause it froze my pc |
| 09:58.36 | AnotherData | could this be why? |
| 09:58.42 | GraveDigger | the only way to get ANY output with kdetv is using an overlay, but the picture then is crap |
| 09:59.22 | mdouhan | /away food |
| 09:59.36 | RalfG | apt-get install kdelibs4=4:3.3.2-6.1 kdelibs-bin=4:3.3.2-6.1 fixes my system anyway |
| 10:00.23 | AnotherData | im compiling kaffeine now |
| 10:00.35 | AnotherData | see if anything works with it |
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| 10:07.29 | AnotherData | kaffeine crashes also |
| 10:07.43 | AnotherData | looks like a libxine problem |
| 10:08.12 | thechris | can you update libxine? |
| 10:08.23 | AnotherData | http://rafb.net/paste/results/Rl5b9L88.html |
| 10:08.29 | AnotherData | i could try |
| 10:09.17 | AnotherData | yeh i can i found a slackware package |
| 10:09.22 | AnotherData | 1.1.0 |
| 10:09.28 | AnotherData | ones im using is 1.0 |
| 10:09.50 | Discordian | Since i just asked in #mplayer if there is a way to do it - maybe you guys are the right ones - could it be possible to introduce a window type to draw a window but to pass clicks to the background? Or is this even possible yet? the goal is to watch a video with mplayer and x.org transparency while doing something in the background of the same screen.. i mean there would be lots of applications... |
| 10:10.30 | thechris | i know you can do stuff like that in xdirectfb |
| 10:10.58 | AnotherData | woot |
| 10:11.00 | AnotherData | plays now |
| 10:11.00 | Discordian | sounds like a start :D |
| 10:11.08 | AnotherData | thanks a lot thechris |
| 10:11.20 | AnotherData | appreciate it |
| 10:11.23 | thechris | Discordian: looks like there is an option -sub-bg-alpha |
| 10:11.38 | thechris | err, nm |
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| 10:13.12 | AnotherData | i wonder why it always shows blue lines on the side of any player i use tho |
| 10:13.46 | nick01 | I just installed KDE and the romanian language pkg; evrything is now in romanian except the romanian characters are displayed as boxes ! can somebody tell me how to fix it ? font problem ? |
| 10:14.59 | thechris | you probably need a romanian font, and may need to set up some fonts in kde |
| 10:15.11 | thechris | there may be some sort of wizard for this |
| 10:15.32 | nick01 | there is a font installer in kcontrol but what font and where from ? :( |
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| 10:17.26 | thechris | nick01: what linux distributions are you running? |
| 10:17.42 | nick01 | vector - slack based |
| 10:18.24 | thechris | have you tired installing any romainian or such fonts |
| 10:18.50 | thechris | not sure what characters are in romanian, i assume it is similar to those of portugese? |
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| 10:23.28 | fredi4 | could someone help me with artsdsp ? |
| 10:24.19 | fredi4 | am i invisible\ ?| |
| 10:24.36 | thechris | fredi4: i can't see you... |
| 10:25.02 | thechris | as for arts... i try not to use it |
| 10:25.19 | fredi4 | thechris: hey. well thanks for the response |
| 10:25.37 | fredi4 | thechris: are you knowledgeable wrt arts ? |
| 10:25.41 | thechris | is artsdsp the DSP tools in arts |
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| 10:25.49 | nick01_ | connection problem |
| 10:25.52 | thechris | fredi4: not really. though i know about dsp... |
| 10:25.58 | nick01_ | there are very few fonts installed |
| 10:26.01 | fredi4 | i'm trying to get skype to share my sound card with xmms |
| 10:26.09 | fredi4 | fredi4: skype works fine by itself |
| 10:26.23 | fredi4 | thechris: skype works fine by itself .. (talking to myself again ;) |
| 10:26.43 | thechris | fredi4: i take it xmms also works fine by itself |
| 10:27.13 | fredi4 | thechris: um. on the skype homepage it says you can run something. (ie skype) with ... > artsdsp -m ./skype |
| 10:27.24 | fredi4 | thechris: yes xmms also works fine |
| 10:27.31 | fredi4 | thechris: i've got alsa with oss emulation |
| 10:27.41 | fredi4 | thechris: i've also got a /dev/dsp |
| 10:27.51 | thechris | fredi4: hmm. the issue in linux is that there is no universal sound mixer |
| 10:27.58 | nick01 | no kde localization expert here ? I should show u a screenshot; it's ugly :( |
| 10:28.00 | thechris | a sound mixer allows multiple sounds to play |
| 10:28.11 | fredi4 | thechris: sure, i understand ... choices... darn ;) |
| 10:28.22 | thechris | fredi4: you can turn off arts and use dmix |
| 10:28.24 | fredi4 | thechris: choices are good and all. but which is the best. ? |
| 10:28.36 | fredi4 | thechris: ah. is dmix "better" than artsd |
| 10:28.39 | thechris | dmix should use the alsa driver |
| 10:28.41 | nick01 | fredi4: use arts; kde does |
| 10:28.50 | fredi4 | thechris: cause artsd seems to use a fair bit of cpu |
| 10:28.59 | nick01 | that's true |
| 10:29.02 | thechris | in my experiences arts has never really worked well. |
| 10:29.24 | thechris | though if you want kde sounds -- like sounds when you click on things, i think that relies on arts |
| 10:29.30 | fredi4 | nick01: i will conceed that artsd takes away the scratchy buzzing as i drag windows around and the hdd reads (and yes i have dma on) |
| 10:29.57 | thechris | alternatively you can get an aureal vortex2 or such card with hardware mixing |
| 10:30.25 | fredi4 | thechris: i'm going to try and do what i need to with the onboard |
| 10:30.32 | fredi4 | thechris: it a i815 |
| 10:31.02 | fredi4 | thechris: so dmix is the go? |
| 10:31.15 | nick01 | sh|t ! nobody knows how to get my romanian characters to show :/ |
| 10:31.36 | thechris | dmix should work just fine. note that you probably need to turn off arts and possibly restart KDE |
| 10:31.49 | fredi4 | thechris: will dmix gimme separate /dev/dspX'n |
| 10:31.54 | fredi4 | thechris: i'm not running kde |
| 10:32.10 | thechris | fredi4: no, but it allows multiple accesses to /dev/dsp |
| 10:32.18 | fredi4 | thechris: if i want xmms to just use oss or alsa i pick the oss or alsa output plugin and i works fine. |
| 10:32.38 | thechris | fredi4: do you have gnome? |
| 10:32.41 | fredi4 | thechris: if i want xmms to use arts, i run artsd then run xmms and pick the arts output plugin.. works fine. |
| 10:33.03 | fredi4 | thechris: um yes i'm running gnome atm.. but often i'll just run metacity.. |
| 10:33.22 | fredi4 | thechris: just metacity and some xterms.. ;) |
| 10:33.22 | thechris | i think they use "enlightenment sound daemon" |
| 10:33.31 | fredi4 | thechris: "they" |
| 10:33.33 | fredi4 | thechris: ? |
| 10:33.36 | fredi4 | thechris: skype? |
| 10:33.41 | thechris | gnome devs |
| 10:33.56 | fredi4 | thechris: i think there a gstreamer proj |
| 10:33.58 | thechris | i've heard you can set up esd to do what you want as well |
| 10:34.02 | fredi4 | thechris: but its not supported by skype |
| 10:34.14 | thechris | what is skype |
| 10:34.27 | fredi4 | thechris: perhaps i need all of kde for skype to use arts... but xmms works with just artsd.. |
| 10:34.55 | fredi4 | thechris: and skype doesnt exactly use arts natively.. you do the > artsdsp -m ./skype from /opt/skype |
| 10:35.32 | fredi4 | pwd |
| 10:35.34 | fredi4 | sorry |
| 10:35.38 | fredi4 | wrong term |
| 10:36.13 | thechris | hmm. people have typed far worse things into the wrong window |
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| 10:40.17 | Ae|-_GoD | Hello, may I ask sth? |
| 10:41.57 | nick01 | NO ! nobody seems to answer :/ |
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| 10:45.04 | Ae|-_GoD | nick01: what's your distro? |
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| 11:04.22 | nick01 | anybody has any idea how to fix a localization problem ? |
| 11:04.32 | nick01 | romanian characters don't display right |
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| 11:19.35 | nick01 | noone can help me with KDE localization ? :( |
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| 11:25.38 | nick01 | this place is empty, maybe cause there is night in the states |
| 11:25.46 | nick01 | it is |
| 11:25.54 | nh | or because it is day in europe, and people work ;) |
| 11:26.04 | nick01 | lol |
| 11:26.06 | nick01 | good point |
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| 11:27.05 | pinotree | nick01: strange that you don't see them, because all the i18n are (should be) encoded with utf8 |
| 11:27.25 | nick01 | I installed the i18n pkg :| |
| 11:27.53 | pinotree | yes, i imagine that... |
| 11:28.01 | pinotree | that's strange |
| 11:28.18 | nick01 | I looked - very few fonts are installed |
| 11:28.21 | nick01 | no romanian ones |
| 11:28.49 | pinotree | utf8 font? |
| 11:28.58 | nick01 | what's that ? |
| 11:29.05 | nick01 | I'll look |
| 11:29.41 | nick01 | no font named utf8 |
| 11:30.06 | pinotree | no, i mean font with utf8 chars |
| 11:30.13 | pinotree | for example, open kcharselect |
| 11:30.30 | pinotree | do you see your national chars inside? |
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| 11:31.34 | nick01 | pinotree: not in bitstream |
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| 11:31.53 | pinotree | and bistream is your current kde font? |
| 11:32.01 | nick01 | no |
| 11:32.04 | nick01 | helevetica |
| 11:32.19 | pinotree | and has helvetica such chars? |
| 11:32.22 | nick01 | but it's not on the list |
| 11:32.29 | nick01 | helvetica |
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| 11:37.00 | nick01 | [nick01@T90~]$ kcharselect |
| 11:37.01 | nick01 | kcharselect: WARNING: Can't find Font: helvetica |
| 11:37.14 | nick01 | and KDE it's usnig helvetica |
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| 11:39.08 | tristia | what is kde..? |
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| 11:41.05 | HenkPoley | tristia: is that a serious question ? |
| 11:41.44 | tristia | ya.. |
| 11:42.16 | HenkPoley | KDE is desktop environment (DE) for UNIX like operating systems |
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| 11:42.29 | HenkPoley | It looks a bit like MS windows |
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| 11:42.42 | tristia | oh.. |
| 11:42.47 | HenkPoley | Take a look at http://www.kde.org/ for more info, applications and pictures ;-) |
| 11:42.50 | Aji-Dahaka | it /can/ |
| 11:43.08 | tristia | if i install linux..can i just updates the new releases kde..? |
| 11:43.16 | HenkPoley | Okay, by default it looks somewhat like windows ;-) |
| 11:43.32 | tristia | oh..thank..:) |
| 11:44.16 | HenkPoley | tristia: most Linux distribution nowadays have a package management (installer & update software) that can fetch update from the internet |
| 11:44.53 | tristia | if i don't have internet connection then ...? |
| 11:45.28 | HenkPoley | then it is more difficult, if you have a slow internet connection it's also quite difficult to fetch new packages |
| 11:45.47 | HenkPoley | Most package managers allow packages to be read from CD |
| 11:45.59 | tristia | i only have adsl connection..:( |
| 11:46.21 | HenkPoley | "only" as in, what speed? |
| 11:46.26 | HenkPoley | I also have ADSL |
| 11:46.51 | tristia | 512kbps..:( |
| 11:47.51 | HenkPoley | Any limits on the amount of MB's you might download? (like, 1 gigabyte per month) |
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| 11:48.13 | tristia | unlimited.. |
| 11:48.23 | HenkPoley | Okay, then you don't have much of a problem |
| 11:48.47 | HenkPoley | An update of KDE is about as big a SP2 for windows XP for example. |
| 11:48.48 | tristia | just want to get 1mbps line..:( |
| 11:49.28 | HenkPoley | You only need a bit patience, but then, most package managers don't need much handholding (no questions asked during installatation) |
| 11:49.51 | HenkPoley | What distro are you using, or are you planning to use? |
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| 11:50.10 | tristia | so how big coz i use pirated winxp so i never updates my xp..? |
| 11:50.30 | HenkPoley | ~100 MB maybe ~120MB |
| 11:50.53 | tristia | oh.. |
| 11:51.08 | tristia | that only need less that 1 hour..:) |
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| 11:58.23 | Doktoreas | guys wich is the kde app to handle phone? |
| 11:58.26 | Doktoreas | mobile phone? |
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| 12:00.51 | HenkPoley | Doktoreas: I do know Gnokii, but that's a gnome app. It does handle lots of phones though with all sorts of wired/wireless connections |
| 12:01.02 | Doktoreas | i got an x70 |
| 12:02.49 | HenkPoley | http://www.gnokii.org/faq.shtml#models |
| 12:03.05 | HenkPoley | Dunno if that's a recent list :> |
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| 12:03.24 | HenkPoley | Just try, it's free :-P |
| 12:05.21 | Doktoreas | i heard of an app in kde project |
| 12:05.26 | Doktoreas | for menaging cell phone |
| 12:08.33 | HenkPoley | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=15259 ? |
| 12:09.47 | HenkPoley | Kontact also has a "Sync" button, might work as well. |
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| 12:33.11 | m0ns00n | Aji-Dahaka: In konqueror, when scrolling a div with a form in, the form shows wierdly when it is scrolled out of the scrolling area |
| 12:33.47 | m0ns00n | Aji-Dahaka: And at the same time, only about 90% of the scrollbar shows properly, horizontally, but it redraws correctly when clicking it or dragging the bar |
| 12:34.23 | m0ns00n | Aji-Dahaka: The bug is registered I think, and last time I asked I was told it was a QT bug, just as Konqueror can't have opacity on form elements |
| 12:34.43 | m0ns00n | Aji-Dahaka: but I was just wondering if anyone had heard about any progress in the field |
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| 12:38.35 | goron | I am not a HTML-guru, but shouldn't the "thead" element also support the style attribute? |
| 12:38.52 | Aji-Dahaka | m0ns00n: ah |
| 12:39.42 | goron | table><thead style="background-color : #7639f9;">foo</thead><tbody><tr><td>something</td></tr></tbody></table> |
| 12:39.47 | goron | + < |
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| 12:41.58 | goron | Or should I ask about Konqueror somewhere else? |
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| 12:50.05 | m0ns00n | goron: I'm no expert on the internals of konq :-) But thead and tr should take styles - but doesn't so style th instead |
| 12:50.21 | m0ns00n | then use th for headers and td for normal cells |
| 12:50.49 | goron | m0ns00n: Ok, so it's not my fault that it's not working? |
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| 12:52.22 | Aardwolf | Hi, I opened some windows exe with wine that went fullscreen but it crashed, and I was in a black full screen. I went to another vc and killed wine there, and now I'm back in KDE, but the resolution is now very low. How do I get it back to normal resolution, and would there have been a better way to return to KDE if there's a fullscreen program that crashes? |
| 12:52.38 | m0ns00n | goron: Have you looked at w3c? |
| 12:53.03 | m0ns00n | Aardwolf: Difficult, you'd have the same problem with SDL |
| 12:53.15 | goron | m0ns00n: I used some reference in my native language. And I did look on w3c, but not for this issue. |
| 12:53.16 | m0ns00n | Aardwolf: It's a bit related to X11 |
| 12:53.47 | Aardwolf | In windows I know pressing the windows button usually helps because it then opens the start menu and goes back to windows, but in KDE is no such key afaik :s |
| 12:53.52 | goron | Aardwolf: Use Contr-Alt-+ |
| 12:53.57 | m0ns00n | goron: You better, as I really don't remember. |
| 12:54.12 | goron | m0ns00n: I will try this th appoach. |
| 12:54.24 | Aardwolf | How can I get the resolution back to 1280x1024? |
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| 12:54.37 | Aardwolf | It's really annoying to use xchat at such low resolution :D |
| 12:54.45 | goron | m0ns00n: ok, that works. :) |
| 12:54.59 | goron | Aardwolf: Does it already work? |
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| 12:55.47 | Aardwolf | I managed to go back to KDE by killing the wine process in another vc, but now I still have the low resolution, and ctr-alt-+ doesn't bring 1280x1024 back |
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| 12:56.25 | notbadname | Hello Everybody |
| 12:56.30 | notbadname | Howdy |
| 12:56.40 | notbadname | what is earlykdm? |
| 12:56.55 | johnny69 | Question: Was the default behavior of the "desktop access" button (the one you click to minimize everything, and leaves you with just the desktop itself) changed in the last Kde update? Before, it would clear everything on the desktop itself Kopete and my console and Gkrellm, now it minimizes everything. What changed exactly ? |
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| 13:03.22 | goron | Aardwolf: Those keycombination will try all your resolutions in your xorg.conf one by one. You can also try right click in KDE on your desktop and then set it there. |
| 13:03.22 | Aardwolf | Isn't the show desktop button supposed to minimize everything? That's the reason why I click it anyway. |
| 13:03.35 | goron | Aardwolf: It is. |
| 13:03.49 | Aardwolf | goron: I found about the xrandr command and used that to go back to 1280x1024 |
| 13:03.55 | Aardwolf | thanks for the help |
| 13:04.05 | goron | np |
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| 13:04.33 | Aardwolf | funny, ctrl-alt-+ is now working too, while it didn't before I used xrandr to fix things |
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| 13:06.17 | m0ns00n | sorry gotta go |
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| 13:14.05 | Frogbarf | is there a way to restart kde without logging out? |
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| 13:14.51 | pinotree | Frogbarf: mmm..no, iìm afraid |
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| 13:21.39 | Aardwolf | yeah it would rock if I could restart KDE and have all my programs still running, xchat and msn still connected, etc... :) |
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| 13:23.07 | jesusfish | when is KDE 4.0 slated to be released? |
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| 13:23.36 | morci | hi |
| 13:23.48 | goron | Aardwolf: You can background kde if you want. |
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| 13:23.54 | morci | can kde 3.4 preview videos? |
| 13:24.38 | PieD | jesusfish: KDE4 should be released by the middle of 2006 |
| 13:25.04 | jesusfish | so far away...lol |
| 13:25.56 | chodapp | isn't it still like 2004?!?!?! |
| 13:26.02 | jesusfish | I'm sure it will be worth the wait |
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| 13:27.18 | Frogbarf | i think you can do that with enlightenment |
| 13:28.01 | Aardwolf | aww still so long waiting for KDE4 |
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| 13:31.22 | PieD | Aardwolf: we'll be able to enjoy with KDE 3.5 before KDE4 :) |
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| 13:31.36 | Aardwolf | yay :D |
| 13:31.37 | jesusfish | PieD: it's just not the same |
| 13:31.46 | PieD | jesusfish: off course |
| 13:31.55 | Aardwolf | What's the best new feature of KDE4? |
| 13:32.07 | PieD | Aardwolf: nobody can tell you currently !! |
| 13:32.15 | PieD | plasma ? tenor ? |
| 13:32.20 | PieD | I don't know |
| 13:32.29 | jesusfish | is kompmgr getting any more stable these days? |
| 13:32.39 | Aardwolf | I just hope it'll roxor windows vista's boxors |
| 13:32.50 | PieD | jesusfish: KDE4 will improve the composite manager |
| 13:32.50 | canllaith | Aardwolf: It almost compiles and nearly runs! |
| 13:32.56 | PieD | kompmgr is just a hack |
| 13:33.03 | PieD | canllaith: ++ |
| 13:33.07 | jesusfish | Aardwolf: that's a given |
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| 13:33.19 | canllaith | Aardwolf: this is basically all that works so far: http://www.canllaith.org/foo/kde4-sexy.png |
| 13:33.28 | jesusfish | Vista is like the equivalent of XP SP3 |
| 13:34.07 | Aardwolf | canllaith: it's a start... :D |
| 13:34.33 | PieD | Since I did have a good internet access at that time, I'd like to know : was there the same mess when KDE3 appeared ? |
| 13:34.47 | PieD | Did you have to rewrite most of the applications ? |
| 13:35.09 | PieD | (or use tools to modify most of them) |
| 13:38.27 | jesusfish | mergining Superkaramba into the core is a great idea, I think |
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| 13:40.59 | PieD | jesusfish: will it be the best feature ? |
| 13:41.02 | PieD | I'm not sure |
| 13:41.11 | jesusfish | PieD: not best |
| 13:41.19 | mdouhan | jesusfish: you reckon? last I tried it it was a resource hog something awful |
| 13:41.35 | PieD | mdouhan: you don't know what are the plans |
| 13:41.49 | PieD | please reconsider what you say after understanding how stuff works |
| 13:41.56 | jesusfish | mdouhan: it's gotten better with time, and I imagine that having it integrated with the new framework will help signifigantly |
| 13:42.09 | PieD | the problem is simple : |
| 13:42.12 | mdouhan | PieD: I dont care how stuff works, I speak from experience |
| 13:42.25 | PieD | superkaramba communicates with kdesktop to get the wallpaper, in order to draw translucency |
| 13:42.27 | mdouhan | it may be the best tech experience ever made but if it slow it is slow |
| 13:42.28 | PieD | => slow |
| 13:42.38 | PieD | mdouhan: that's stupid |
| 13:42.46 | PieD | you consider a software can't be improved ! |
| 13:42.58 | mdouhan | PieD: no on the countarary |
| 13:43.08 | mdouhan | I said LAST I tried it |
| 13:43.16 | PieD | when did you test it ? |
| 13:43.17 | mdouhan | so I indeed welcome a better version |
| 13:43.21 | PieD | 3 years ago ? |
| 13:43.31 | mdouhan | no about 8 months ago |
| 13:43.46 | PieD | personally, I don't use it any longer |
| 13:43.52 | PieD | because I never see my wallpaper |
| 13:44.10 | jesusfish | PieD: I don't know if there will be a "best" feature...I think of it more as a new experience |
| 13:44.14 | mdouhan | the idea is great and if it improves resource wise I will sure use it |
| 13:45.02 | PieD | what I would like to see too is eye candy |
| 13:45.10 | PieD | or for instance a better taskbar |
| 13:45.20 | PieD | showing windows thumbnails instead of windows titles |
| 13:45.46 | PieD | with better graphic effects when you minimize a window |
| 13:45.48 | apokryphos | PieD: as a screeny of the program? That would be huge |
| 13:45.58 | goron | PieD: That's impractical. |
| 13:46.05 | PieD | apokryphos: it works perfectly on looking glass |
| 13:46.17 | PieD | but looking glass is a 3D environment... |
| 13:46.19 | jesusfish | PieD: I believe Plasma is supposed to take care of all of that |
| 13:47.07 | PieD | jesusfish: yes, and hopefully the new X server (with a lot of improvements allowing faster render) will be released soon, far before KDE4 |
| 13:47.08 | apokryphos | PieD: not sure if it's necessarily better though. It wouldn't be so easy to differentiate three web-browsers running in the taskbar |
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| 13:47.29 | PieD | who has three web browsers launched ? :p |
| 13:47.39 | apokryphos | PieD: but an example ;-) |
| 13:47.41 | PieD | and since you'd see the webpages, there wouldn't be any problem... |
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| 13:48.24 | apokryphos | For example, I'm looking now at a reasonably sized screeny of Quanta and Kate -- I sure can't tell the difference between each one from this |
| 13:48.27 | PieD | here I've got only 7 applications in my taskbar (only one non-KDE application : netbeans) |
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| 13:48.40 | apokryphos | I'd have to look real closely |
| 13:48.57 | PieD | how big are they ? |
| 13:49.10 | apokryphos | PieD: taskbar v2 screeny size |
| 13:49.16 | apokryphos | bigger than it would be for a taskbar, suffice it to say |
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| 13:49.50 | PieD | http://pinaraf.robertlan.eu.org/site/LG3D/galerie.php?photo=sw_lg3d.jpg => it's usable |
| 13:50.04 | PieD | even if there are two xterms launched |
| 13:50.15 | apokryphos | I've used LookingGlass before, I know it is. |
| 13:50.19 | ValheruLord | http://valherulord.iqchoice.com/resim/graybalance.png and look at his also :D |
| 13:50.32 | ValheruLord | this |
| 13:50.35 | PieD | apokryphos: I'm working on Looking Glass, I know it too :p |
| 13:51.22 | apokryphos | Yah, I remember you mentioned it once before. It is nice, no doubt. |
| 13:51.26 | PieD | ValheruLord: why are you using no KDE application ? |
| 13:51.38 | apokryphos | Xchat and xmms... yuck. :P |
| 13:51.45 | ValheruLord | PieD, :) |
| 13:52.00 | jesusfish | I think LookingGlass is ugly |
| 13:52.02 | ValheruLord | may be i must use noatun and konversation |
| 13:52.03 | PieD | you have too much memory, so you want to consume it ? |
| 13:52.04 | ValheruLord | but |
| 13:52.10 | jesusfish | thought the concept is kinda neat |
| 13:52.11 | PieD | jesusfish: what is ugly ? |
| 13:52.16 | apokryphos | PieD: no, amaroK and Konversation |
| 13:52.20 | PieD | amarok is far better than noatun |
| 13:52.24 | ValheruLord | i coulkd'nt found where to import pls lists to noatun or amarok???? |
| 13:52.35 | apokryphos | ValheruLord: distro? |
| 13:52.43 | PieD | which version of amarok ? |
| 13:52.49 | PieD | (amarok 1.3 will be wonderful) |
| 13:52.50 | ValheruLord | apokryphos, deb |
| 13:52.51 | jesusfish | amaroK Rocks! |
| 13:52.54 | apokryphos | Two taskbars seem generally unnecessary |
| 13:52.59 | apokryphos | ValheruLord: you can apt-get it |
| 13:53.15 | goron | amarok Rocks..... *when* it works.... |
| 13:53.15 | apokryphos | a KMenu seems generally unnecessary most of the time |
| 13:53.35 | apokryphos | goron: buginess means development ;-) |
| 13:53.37 | PieD | goron: so always... |
| 13:53.41 | jesusfish | goron: it seems pretty stable nowadays |
| 13:54.05 | jesusfish | goron: 1.3 beta 2 is working well |
| 13:54.05 | goron | I have yet to experience the stableness. If it would be bugfree, it would be the best player. |
| 13:54.22 | apokryphos | goron: stable versions are generally fine. What do you have now? |
| 13:54.28 | jesusfish | goron: have fun finding any big free software |
| 13:54.33 | jesusfish | bug free* |
| 13:54.33 | PieD | jesusfish: 1.3 beta 3 is better :) |
| 13:54.39 | apokryphos | I generally always run svn and that's almost always good enough to use |
| 13:54.43 | goron | Qt: 3.3.4 |
| 13:54.43 | goron | KDE: 3.4.1 |
| 13:54.43 | goron | amaroK: 1.2.4 |
| 13:55.00 | jesusfish | PieD: ya, I'll have to get the deb at some point |
| 13:55.01 | apokryphos | surprised you're having problems with it :| |
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| 13:55.13 | PieD | jesusfish: I compiled it manually ... |
| 13:55.19 | PieD | goron: did you report the bugs ? |
| 13:55.25 | jesusfish | PieD: I'm too lazy to do that |
| 13:55.27 | goron | PieD: yes, I did. |
| 13:55.40 | PieD | what are the reports please ? |
| 13:55.42 | goron | PieD: Never heard anything from it though. |
| 13:56.02 | goron | PieD: I gave a stacktrace of gdb to lauri. |
| 13:56.07 | PieD | ... |
| 13:56.14 | PieD | no bugreport on bugs.kde.org ? |
| 13:56.35 | goron | PieD: Can't remember. I don't think so. |
| 13:56.53 | apokryphos | goron: You should've. Lauri is not an amaroK dev |
| 13:56.55 | goron | PieD: And I am also not sure whether it really wasn't fixed already. |
| 13:57.15 | goron | apokryphos: lauri said she would forward it too the amarok monkeys :p |
| 13:57.19 | goron | er to |
| 13:57.37 | goron | There's no reason to assume she didn't. |
| 13:58.19 | goron | Well, let me see whether it works this time.... |
| 13:58.32 | apokryphos | Ok, try out the beta3; I'm compiling too now. |
| 13:59.12 | PieD | I really like the "Wiki" tab |
| 13:59.23 | PieD | thanks to this, I contributed to the wikipedia :) |
| 13:59.53 | hydrogen | beta3 has some random podcast issues |
| 14:00.01 | hydrogen | that may have been fixed in SVN, im not sure |
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| 14:01.45 | Dhraakellian | okay, a while back, I remember hearing about someone setting up konsole so that it would autohide at the top of the screen |
| 14:02.03 | Dhraakellian | does anyone know where I might find a site describing how to do that+ |
| 14:02.04 | hydrogen | yeahconsole does that |
| 14:02.05 | Dhraakellian | ?* |
| 14:02.07 | hydrogen | >_< |
| 14:02.10 | hydrogen | not konsole |
| 14:02.12 | hydrogen | but its a term |
| 14:02.18 | hydrogen | think its on freshmeat |
| 14:02.21 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 14:02.32 | Dhraakellian | so it's an actual program that does it? |
| 14:02.38 | hydrogen | yeah |
| 14:02.45 | Dhraakellian | I was under the impression that it was something done with konsole and kwin |
| 14:02.57 | benJIman | it was kuake or something |
| 14:02.58 | hydrogen | well, I know yeahconsole does it |
| 14:03.01 | hydrogen | not sure if there was another way |
| 14:03.08 | benJIman | http://www.nemohackers.org/kuake.php |
| 14:03.11 | Aji-Dahaka | "you need rsservice to use this plugin" <-- did I forget an option? (this is from kontact) |
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| 14:03.37 | goron | CPU usage: 48.73% 48.73% amarokapp |
| 14:03.43 | goron | That's not good. |
| 14:04.05 | goron | 85.11% 85.11% amarokapp |
| 14:04.21 | Aji-Dahaka | doesn't seem good |
| 14:04.35 | goron | I think the development process of amarok is flawed. |
| 14:04.48 | hydrogen | no, thats the indexing of dbase probably |
| 14:05.11 | goron | Well, the GUI freezes. |
| 14:05.29 | hydrogen | how much are you indexing? |
| 14:05.38 | goron | >1000 |
| 14:05.56 | hydrogen | shouldn't freeze up, but see what happens after its done |
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| 14:06.06 | goron | 1000 should be indexed in <1 sec. |
| 14:06.15 | Dhraakellian | just out of curiosity, what version are you using? |
| 14:06.18 | pinotree | goron: i have ~1000 songs, and whren i add it to amarok playlist it's really fast |
| 14:06.26 | Dhraakellian | and sqlite or mysql? |
| 14:06.26 | pinotree | no more than 3 seconds |
| 14:06.29 | goron | 1.2.4 |
| 14:06.30 | pinotree | sqlite |
| 14:06.35 | Aji-Dahaka | old |
| 14:06.39 | Dhraakellian | hehheh |
| 14:06.46 | Dhraakellian | 1.2.4 is still the latest "stable" |
| 14:06.49 | Aji-Dahaka | yeah |
| 14:06.56 | Aji-Dahaka | 1.3 seems more stable |
| 14:07.06 | pinotree | well, i'm on 1.3-SVN :P |
| 14:07.07 | Dhraakellian | 1.3beta3 is out, yes |
| 14:07.33 | Dhraakellian | and, if you want more amarok help, there is #amarok |
| 14:07.40 | goron | Dhraakellian: does it compile "out of SVN" on FreeBSD? |
| 14:07.40 | Dhraakellian | but don't flame, please |
| 14:07.52 | Dhraakellian | goron, I wouldn't know |
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| 14:08.02 | Dhraakellian | I would guess so, but I've never used FreeBSD |
| 14:08.36 | goron | Dhraakellian: I guess I will just wait for a new stable version. And resort to Beep while stuff is still broken. |
| 14:08.42 | hydrogen | goron, I know flameeyes got it to compile on gentoo/FreeBSD, but there was some linking problem with taglib |
| 14:09.28 | hydrogen | "If anyone tried it and it was crashing, the problem was that libtunepimp linked to libthr for threading support, but amaroK used libpthread, and the result was a not-good-at-all crash." |
| 14:09.29 | PhilRod | you can compile things from kde svn on freebsd, but you need some configure flags, etc - see freebsd.kde.org |
| 14:09.43 | PhilRod | I (and many others in #kde-freebsd) do it all the time |
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| 14:17.46 | goron | PhilRod: I looked on that webpage, but I saw no reference to svn or specific flags. |
| 14:19.51 | lilalinux | is there a sip client for kde? |
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| 14:23.22 | PhilRod | goron: see the "head and ports howto" |
| 14:24.23 | goron | ok, got it. |
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| 14:52.36 | kiluminati | Not that many help in #quanta so asking here: is it necessary to have ktelnet installed to work through ssh with quanta? |
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| 14:57.50 | Tilos | Is it possible to change the K-menu icon? |
| 14:58.18 | apokryphos | ~kmenuicon |
| 14:58.18 | apt | i heard kmenuicon is at http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2567213 |
| 14:59.05 | apokryphos | Tilos: always a good idea to check the FAQ first :P |
| 14:59.26 | Tilos | Oh, my bad. :P |
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| 15:14.08 | federico | good morning |
| 15:14.13 | federico | does anyone know if Waldo Bastian hangs around here? |
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| 15:18.53 | lippel_ | apt: seen zogje |
| 15:18.54 | apt | zogje <~bastian@ARennes-252-1-26-135.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #freedesktop, 230d 3h 12m 48s ago, saying: 'daniels: yes, I noticed now, i was looking at the wrong CDATA section :)'. |
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| 15:24.58 | _-1_nana_blog | See my blog at: http://www.idpz.net/tomytom/helene/myblog.htm ;) |
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| 15:45.31 | raDeon | how do i adjust kde fonts from inside gnome |
| 15:47.01 | pinotree | raDeon: run kcontrol from inside a shell |
| 15:47.07 | raDeon | thanks |
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| 16:25.50 | HopeSeekr | whenever i start KDE i am *assaulted* by something on the order of 10 term windows, 3 firefoxes, thunderbird, xchat, and about 50 GVims ... all vying for my precious desktop space + memory ... how can i just hvae a thoroughly blank startup? :-// |
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| 16:29.35 | benJIman | HopeSeekr: kcontrol -> kde components -> session manager -> "start with empty session" |
| 16:29.55 | HopeSeekr | thx |
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| 16:35.38 | earthsnd | I'm running KDE 3.4.1 on cygwin on Windows XP & wanted to know if anyone here had experience in this environment |
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| 17:08.46 | Milo1987 | I get /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-slackware-linux/3.3.5/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lkio/qt/lib |
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| 17:26.08 | earthsnd | anyone awake? |
| 17:26.31 | insanekane | yep |
| 17:26.58 | pinotree | weee |
| 17:27.02 | pinotree | insanekane :D |
| 17:27.12 | insanekane | hey there pinotree ... how goes it ? |
| 17:27.23 | pinotree | nice, thhanks :) and you? |
| 17:28.03 | insanekane | its going good :) |
| 17:28.15 | insanekane | therefore, quite busy as well :) |
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| 17:29.47 | insanekane | are any Rekall devels here ? |
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| 17:31.11 | sredna | Hello |
| 17:31.19 | pinotree | hey sredna =) |
| 17:31.20 | insanekane | hello |
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| 17:44.50 | sredna | lauri: You know many fonts, right? I have a graphic with a font that I can't identify, could you look at it? |
| 17:47.08 | sredna | The graphic is here: http://83.73.152.50:8002/fjellebroensejlklub.jpg |
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| 17:48.28 | sredna | ... or anyone else :) |
| 17:49.01 | sredna | The shape of the J is characteristic, and not extremely common in fonts that I have |
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| 17:54.31 | sredna | Coudl be some version of garamond mayvbe |
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| 17:56.45 | moret | hi |
| 17:57.14 | moret | mmm, my kopete in MSN doesn't update my friends nicks... |
| 17:57.30 | termo | mine neither |
| 17:57.36 | moret | is it a bug? |
| 17:57.40 | termo | I guess so |
| 17:57.46 | sredna | How old are your kopete versions? |
| 17:58.00 | moret | mm, two days maybe |
| 17:58.04 | termo | i'm using 0.10.2 |
| 17:58.04 | moret | I use svn-version |
| 17:58.04 | sredna | There was a problem with MSN recently, and a fixed version has been released |
| 17:58.26 | moret | I would must upgrade so... |
| 17:58.44 | Theory | there's something about contact nicks under settings, do you have it set to take the nick from msn? |
| 17:59.13 | moret | I don't know.... |
| 17:59.17 | moret | wait |
| 17:59.20 | moret | let's see |
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| 18:01.52 | moret | it doesn't work correctly |
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| 18:17.19 | Tommck | can someone tell me how to tell KDE to stop auto-launching k3b when a DVD/CD is inserted? |
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| 18:17.51 | sredna | Tommck: That would likely be a setting in k3b |
| 18:18.11 | Tommck | sredna - I can't find it. |
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| 18:18.28 | Tommck | it's a system notification... k3b can't monitor it itself... it's not running before insertion of the disk |
| 18:19.21 | earthsnd | anyone have experience w/ kde on cygwin? |
| 18:20.51 | apokryphos | Tommck: that doesn't mean that the option isn't in k3b for it. However, have you checked under system notifications in kcontrol? |
| 18:21.08 | Tommck | lemme look again, I thought I did |
| 18:21.52 | Tommck | apokryphos - it looks like that's for sound events |
| 18:22.47 | apokryphos | hm, so it is. |
| 18:23.03 | apokryphos | Tommck: no luck in #k3b ? |
| 18:23.18 | Tommck | crap.. didn't know there was one :) |
| 18:24.50 | Tommck | nobody's responding in there |
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| 18:30.04 | Tommck | I still can't find anything... :( |
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| 18:54.35 | new2this | Guys do any of you know the command to download qt-copy for version 3.5 of KDE using svn. http://developer.kde.org/source/anonsvn.html says to check the WebSVN for tags but I don't know how to do that |
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| 18:57.07 | steffenstrobel | hi everybody, how can i change the color of the background when the kde splash screen is visible? i mean if i startx i get a black screen, after that the screen is grey and kde splash is starting... and i don't want that grey in the background! THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!!! |
| 18:58.30 | lippel_ | new2this: i'd say svn co https://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/qt/3.3/qt-copy |
| 18:59.00 | lippel_ | steffenstrobel: no reason to shout |
| 18:59.35 | new2this | how do you know 3.3 is the version I need for version 3.5 of KDE. Is that just something you know. |
| 18:59.46 | new2this | Is there somewhere I should have found this out for myself? |
| 19:01.28 | lippel_ | new2this: actually, sticking to your distro's qt version should do |
| 19:01.45 | Mick27^pwnstar | can someone point me to a doc where it's explained how do add menu entries via config files |
| 19:01.51 | lippel_ | new2this: i myself never installed qt-copy but used distro packages of qt |
| 19:02.52 | new2this | I'm using Debian Sarge which I'd say is quite old. |
| 19:03.08 | lippel_ | new2this: what's the qt version in there? |
| 19:03.46 | new2this | lippel_: Any quick way of checking? |
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| 19:04.23 | new2this | lippel_: locate found /usr/share/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3 maybe this means I don't need qt-copy? |
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| 19:05.11 | lippel_ | new2this: e.g. moc -v |
| 19:05.25 | lippel_ | new2this: any 3.3 version should do |
| 19:05.35 | lippel_ | new2this: i use 3.3.3 here |
| 19:05.35 | new2this | Thanks lippel_ |
| 19:06.15 | new2this | Qt Meta Object Compiler version 26 (Qt 3.3.4) is what Debian Sarge has. New enough after all. |
| 19:08.47 | lippel_ | steffenstrobel: if you used kdm, you could set the background in kcontrol, but i don't know about startx |
| 19:09.32 | steffenstrobel | lippel_: thanks for your answer, i know that kdm option but i want to use startx... :( |
| 19:10.53 | lippel_ | steffenstrobel: maybe using xsetroot in .xinitrc helps, dont know |
| 19:12.11 | steffenstrobel | lippel_: thanks for the tip, it really coud work! i'll try later... |
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| 19:24.31 | HopeSeekr | i need to run a program (superkaramba) every time ANY user (future or current) starts kde...i know about $HOMEDIR/.kde/autostart ... now WHERE THE FRECK is the global autostart directory? :-(((( |
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| 19:25.11 | insanekane | HopeSeekr: you may need to edit the /usr/bin/startkde script |
| 19:25.29 | Theory | I suggest /usr/share/autostart may be what you want |
| 19:25.56 | HopeSeekr | :O |
| 19:26.12 | HopeSeekr | THATS IOT! |
| 19:26.15 | HopeSeekr | ::BOWS:: |
| 19:26.23 | HopeSeekr | THANKS! THANKS! THANKS THANKTASNDFASNDFKATA |
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| 19:26.41 | zap__ | hi. is it possible to change the order of the folders in kmail? |
| 19:26.42 | lauri | sredna: you there? |
| 19:27.16 | HopeSeekr | why is it not in /usr/share/kde/autostart? |
| 19:27.21 | HopeSeekr | that'd make a lot more sense |
| 19:27.37 | insanekane | HopeSeekr: file a bug with you distro makers ? |
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| 19:42.48 | miklos | Hi all! |
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| 19:44.35 | pinchartl | could anyone tell me how to use certificates for ssl authentication in konqueror ? |
| 19:45.05 | pinchartl | I get a "Could not connect to host ccff02.minfin.fgov.be (port 1443)." error |
| 19:45.18 | pinchartl | (the URL I try to access is https://ccff02.minfin.fgov.be:1443/CCFF_Authentication/logineID.do;jsessionid=CxesEYKidZwYI0xtYZBlzrrTPoYKQeoXHWADQZ6TAGdTTAGEuBde!-563786489!NONE!1123098287011 ) |
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| 20:24.52 | Madkiss | hi folks |
| 20:25.03 | Madkiss | With a normal installation and --prefix=/usr, where do I need to look for the ksplash-themes |
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| 20:27.31 | sredna | Madkiss: /usr/share/apps/ksplash |
| 20:29.46 | Madkiss | sredna: Perfect, thanks |
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| 20:45.19 | vladg | i am having problems compiling kdegraphics, specifically kgamma. does anyone have any suggestions? i am also wondering why i need kgamma, as it seems to be an xf86 thing, not x.org |
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| 20:54.09 | vladg | never mind, i found it on the gentoo forums. i seem to have compiled kdebase and kdelibs with a different version of gcc. |
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| 21:14.04 | miklos | Hi all! |
| 21:14.12 | miklos | Who 're from Hungary??? |
| 21:14.20 | miklos | pls answer |
| 21:14.41 | miklos | No One? |
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| 21:39.04 | brucehoult | just us chickens here |
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| 21:53.22 | kkrizka | how do I get the view mode buttons back on a toolbar in konqueror? |
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| 22:00.17 | justace | I have a quick question about where to post a particular bug. I get nasty redraws when I have the composite extention enabled along with the kde comp manager. Should this be reported to kwin or xorg? It is really pronounced when I have the window set to full screen. |
| 22:00.42 | justace | It is also very slow with window redraws |
| 22:01.06 | justace | has anybody else had this issue, I am running Gentoo with an nvidia card. |
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| 22:02.34 | benJIman | justace: if it's slow make sure you have Option "RenderAccel" "true" and Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, as for bad redrawing, everyone gets that, it's still experimental |
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| 22:03.27 | justace | ahh |
| 22:03.44 | justace | Well, I do have those two options set |
| 22:04.02 | benJIman | should be quite fast redrawing then, but depends on the card I guess |
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| 22:04.09 | justace | Now, I know there were some issues with the twain view or womething like that, I do have my X configured to support TV out, should I turn that off? |
| 22:04.18 | benJIman | are you using xinerama? |
| 22:04.25 | justace | nope |
| 22:04.31 | benJIman | twinview? |
| 22:04.39 | justace | But I dont explicitly turn it off |
| 22:04.45 | justace | yhea, that is what I ment |
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| 22:05.30 | justace | Is the redrawing problem an X issue or the comp manager? |
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| 22:07.45 | justace | I guess that I should just turn it off and see if I get a performance boost. |
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| 22:08.20 | thechris | how do i get my cdrw listed in k3b if it was not autodetected? |
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| 22:11.19 | metalhedd | in kopete I used to be able to make the MSN Avatars display in the chat window at sizes of at least 96x96. now it seems I'm limited to 64x64 after recently reinstalling kde |
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| 22:26.50 | mita | I have an problem with starting kde, who can i ask? |
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| 22:34.51 | Stormchaser | Question: What do I need (in kdesupport) to make indexlib installed? |
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| 22:39.31 | mita | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.55 | Stormchaser | #suse or #kde |
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| 22:40.02 | Stormchaser | Er... Ooops |
| 22:40.12 | Stormchaser | Wrong channel :/ |
| 22:40.18 | Epod69 | anyone know what could cause kde to hard reboot while it is loading...? =( |
| 22:40.42 | Stormchaser | mita: Well... Just select it as your default window manager in yasty |
| 22:40.47 | Stormchaser | *yast |
| 22:41.06 | Stormchaser | Epod69: Which version? |
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| 22:41.49 | Epod69 | umm, i think its 3.4 or something |
| 22:42.12 | Epod69 | i log in from kdm |
| 22:42.20 | Stormchaser | exact version, please, and distro name, blah balh... |
| 22:42.35 | Epod69 | its debian 3.1 |
| 22:42.50 | Stormchaser | meaning? |
| 22:42.58 | Stormchaser | KDE 3.3 or 3.4? |
| 22:43.47 | Epod69 | im researching, im not in the linux right now |
| 22:43.52 | Madkiss | In which file is the kde icon theme to be used defined? |
| 22:44.17 | benJIman | mita: what's default now? |
| 22:44.34 | Epod69 | it reboots during initializing perefreals, *cant spell |
| 22:44.40 | benJIman | suse defaults to kde anyway unless you don't install it |
| 22:44.59 | Stormchaser | Epod69: Could be you package broken... |
| 22:45.23 | Stormchaser | benJIman: ...unless they changed it in 9.3. |
| 22:45.31 | Epod69 | i did a net install, and reinstalled twice |
| 22:45.31 | Madkiss | they did not. |
| 22:45.39 | benJIman | Stormchaser: no |
| 22:46.40 | Stormchaser | Epod69: Then your pcakage is broken or your hardware is faulty |
| 22:46.42 | carl_2 | How can I change kicker's taskbar text? |
| 22:47.35 | mita | benJIman: Itmay sound stupid but i dont know, it is not gnome. |
| 22:47.48 | Epod69 | computer boots up fine in win 2000 with no hardware problems |
| 22:47.55 | benJIman | mita: does it give you a grayish login screen is that what you mean? |
| 22:47.55 | Stormchaser | FVWM? |
| 22:48.10 | Stormchaser | mita: You didn't installed KDE? |
| 22:48.18 | Epod69 | ? |
| 22:49.00 | Stormchaser | Epod69: Means absolutely nothing... Well... It does mean that Linux is more picky about faulty hardware... |
| 22:49.25 | benJIman | mita: there's a sax bug in 9.3 which reverts the default login manager to xdm instead of kdm, it was fixed with a YOU update but to change it back go to yast -> system -> /etc/sysconfig editor and go to desktop -> display manager -> display manager -> displaymanager |
| 22:49.29 | benJIman | change it to kdm |
| 22:49.30 | Stormchaser | Epod69: But I would want to bet, that your pachage is broken |
| 22:50.09 | mita | StormchaserIt: Is installed, and i can run it, but i can't make it to start auto when i run mprivremena |
| 22:50.30 | mita | *start suse |
| 22:50.50 | Epod69 | stormchaser: it doesnt make sense though, i did a net install, and it didnt work the first time so i reinstalled again and same problem, how could i have bad packages twice in a row like that.. |
| 22:51.16 | Stormchaser | Epod69: #debian-kde |
| 22:51.53 | Epod69 | hey, you think it could be the source i am choosing |
| 22:52.00 | Epod69 | already there |
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| 22:53.36 | mita | benJIman: I have changed it and i will try it, thanks you all |
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| 22:54.27 | Epod69 | i think i will choose a different http source instead of the mirror i was using which probably had the corrupt drivers.. |
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| 22:57.41 | Epod69 | *currupt packages |
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| 23:02.53 | forlorn | does anyone know why kdelibs4 requires debug on qt? |
| 23:04.57 | Epod69 | i found out the mirror i was using is for testing, the chicago mirror |
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| 23:06.42 | Ringwraith` | ubuntu is slow :( |
| 23:06.43 | Ringwraith` | waaah |
| 23:07.26 | apokryphos | Ringwraith`: *very* speedy here |
| 23:08.04 | Ringwraith` | i have a 350mhz laptop, and the speed of the thing seems quite decreased |
| 23:08.15 | Ringwraith` | its not a kde prob either nor a memory |
| 23:08.20 | Ringwraith` | its something else |
| 23:08.30 | apokryphos | Yes, it's the 350mhz |
| 23:08.51 | Ringwraith` | nope |
| 23:08.59 | Ringwraith` | even fluxbox is slow |
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