| 00:00.35 | benJIman | HilBilly: why rm -rf? if you mv it you can always move it back |
| 00:00.51 | benJIman | oops, lag |
| 00:01.17 | HilBilly | good point |
| 00:01.34 | HilBilly | but there isn't anything critical in .kde |
| 00:01.43 | benJIman | except all your settings |
| 00:01.51 | HilBilly | exactly |
| 00:01.56 | benJIman | which can take a long time to redo if you have a lot |
| 00:02.02 | Venson | heh |
| 00:02.12 | Venson | better to keep the settings than delete |
| 00:02.19 | HilBilly | point taken |
| 00:04.13 | parph | how do I find ~/.kde? When I try to move it it says it does not exist |
| 00:05.05 | parph | it's in the root folder i see here, is that the correct one? |
| 00:05.13 | HilBilly | try /home/parph/.kde |
| 00:05.23 | HilBilly | no .. that is for root |
| 00:05.24 | zz | cd |
| 00:05.28 | zz | ls .kde |
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| 00:05.51 | zz | hey ataxic |
| 00:05.54 | zz | Alethes~ |
| 00:05.56 | zz | i mean ;) |
| 00:06.04 | Alethes | howdy |
| 00:06.20 | zz | its rr72 if u dint know ;) |
| 00:06.24 | zz | check my cloak ;) |
| 00:06.29 | zz | yay |
| 00:06.36 | Alethes | heh |
| 00:06.39 | Alethes | yeah, I saw :) |
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| 00:07.30 | zz | i was busy earlier made a simple page for my server ;) |
| 00:07.35 | zz | web page* |
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| 00:09.28 | parph | This isin't working |
| 00:09.45 | parph | I guess I have no choice but create a new user |
| 00:10.53 | can|nothere | parph: you need to for testing anyway |
| 00:10.56 | can|nothere | That is the next step |
| 00:11.01 | can|nothere | create an entirely new user and try KDE as that user |
| 00:11.21 | can|nothere | This will tell us a little more about the problem, and for any Unix problems is one of the first things you should do to test |
| 00:12.56 | parph | I already have another user account on my system, I started it and it loads kde perfectly |
| 00:13.13 | can|nothere | Then the problem is in your user account. Try recursively chown'ing your home directory |
| 00:13.23 | can|nothere | chown -R parph:users /home/parph .... see if that helps |
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| 00:14.20 | parph | this is all new to me |
| 00:14.32 | can|nothere | you'll have to do that as root btw |
| 00:14.32 | parph | what is chown'ing? |
| 00:14.34 | stibby||-_-zZz | can I view a history in Gwenview? |
| 00:14.56 | can|nothere | parph: changing the permissions of the folder so they belong to you. Which they should anyway, but sometimes problems can happen with permissions |
| 00:14.59 | parph | so I type chown -R parph:users /home/parph in console under root? |
| 00:15.04 | can|nothere | Yes |
| 00:15.06 | parph | k\ |
| 00:15.06 | can|nothere | exactly :) |
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| 00:15.28 | parph | it's taking a while |
| 00:15.35 | can|nothere | It will yeah |
| 00:15.43 | parph | what an annoying problem |
| 00:15.54 | slubman | re |
| 00:16.10 | slubman | try to reinstall kde, and got the same problem with kmail :S |
| 00:16.27 | parph | wait the stuff in ~/.kde that I moved to kde-0backup, do I move it back? |
| 00:19.06 | can|nothere | If you want |
| 00:19.22 | parph | I just tried it still doesn't work even after chown -R parph:users /home/parph |
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| 00:22.26 | parph | I think i'll ditch this account, it seems misteriously crippled |
| 00:26.16 | parph | something is really screwed up here, I created a new user account and it says login failed for it |
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| 00:27.47 | parph | now it works, WEIRD |
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| 00:34.38 | HilBilly | ok .. I changed my theme and I want to go back to defaults. How? |
| 00:35.09 | can|nothere | HilBilly: um by changing it back? :) |
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| 00:36.15 | lupus1010 | somthing like http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gtk/gtk-Stock-Items.html#GTK-STOCK-PRINT:CAPS but in qt (does it exist or not?) |
| 00:36.35 | lupus1010 | and where can I find documentation about it |
| 00:36.51 | HilBilly | I hit the defaults .. and it changes most things back .. but the panel is still black |
| 00:36.58 | chodapp | /dev/dsp is an OSS device, right? I can use OSS as a driver elsewhere, but Qemu won't touch it... |
| 00:37.07 | can|nothere | chodapp: yeah it is |
| 00:37.13 | chodapp | Hmmm |
| 00:37.33 | chodapp | OSS seems to be working.... but Qemu won't use the device... yes, permissions are set |
| 00:37.56 | can|nothere | Not already in use by aRts or something silly like that? (fuser and lsof will tell you) |
| 00:38.25 | chodapp | it's emu10k1, it mixes in hardware, and all other OSS stuff works |
| 00:38.31 | can|nothere | fair enough |
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| 00:50.49 | zz | good movie |
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| 01:01.11 | CapNemo | zz: hey average i would say |
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| 01:06.47 | StevenR | can|nothere: ping? |
| 01:08.25 | zz | good = average for me ;) |
| 01:08.53 | zz | CapNemo~ if it was really good id say awsome or sweet or really good ;) |
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| 01:16.04 | can|nothere | StevenR: gday |
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| 01:17.33 | StevenR | canllaith: work doen't suck too much :) line manager is cool, very cool, has shown me loads of stuff, bigboss is less cool, bit of a iwant this done now man, but all is fine, tuesday was fantastic, nik's family rock, nik's house rocks, nik is the most amazing girl in the world, etc. |
| 01:18.00 | canllaith | hehehe |
| 01:18.03 | canllaith | so I guess it all went well then eh? |
| 01:18.09 | StevenR | canllaith: tis 02:19, i have to be in work at 0700 *gulp* |
| 01:18.15 | canllaith | you should be sleepin!!! |
| 01:18.24 | zz | hehe |
| 01:18.25 | StevenR | canllaith: spent all day in ,arketing and press, fixing their issues |
| 01:18.41 | zz | easy stuff ;) |
| 01:18.48 | canllaith | I gotta reinstall windows, and we know EVERY time you try that you end up fucking up linux somehow |
| 01:18.59 | canllaith | so I figure I'll take the opportunity to repartition space more effectively. |
| 01:19.05 | StevenR | canllaith: I've had to practically steal a laptop so that the it dept have a computer that works |
| 01:19.09 | canllaith | heh |
| 01:19.37 | StevenR | but dave, one of my assts rocks, except that marketing keep trying to steal him |
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| 01:21.23 | lion | yo |
| 01:22.39 | StevenR | canllaith: sry, would love to stay and chat, but have -4hrs to sleep and then a 12 hr day to pull in, and if i'm lucky, i might not die too much |
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| 01:23.52 | User_X | Good - your configure finished. Start make now |
| 01:23.52 | User_X | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.52 | User_X | + unsermake |
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| 01:24.37 | StevenR | night all |
| 01:24.43 | StevenR | ttfn canllaith |
| 01:24.44 | zz | nn |
| 01:24.50 | User_X | nit |
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| 01:25.00 | canllaith | seeya StevenR |
| 01:25.03 | StevenR | sleep is good :) |
| 01:25.10 | rod | What is kde developer's channel? |
| 01:25.16 | User_X | :) |
| 01:25.20 | canllaith | #kde-devel |
| 01:25.42 | zz | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.49 | rod | Oh how difficult :-) thanks |
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| 01:39.09 | User_X | in linux a folder is seen as a file? |
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| 01:40.48 | grepper | User_X: depends. I guess you could say everything is a file in linux |
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| 01:55.40 | grepper | libkdeui.so: undefined reference to `KTimezones::KTimezones[in-charge]()' |
| 01:55.56 | grepper | damn, I sync'ed everything when I did an svn co |
| 01:56.39 | davidsmind | Is there a way to make the dialog text span multiple lines in a kdialog message? |
| 01:57.57 | grepper | "hello\ngoodbye" ? |
| 01:58.46 | SadEagle | davidsmind: you can generally use richtext, just start the text with <qt>. So <qt>foo<br>bar should work |
| 01:59.50 | davidsmind | \n was my first thought, followed by <br>, thanks for the <qt> tip, works like a charm :) |
| 02:00.02 | grepper | or <html> :P |
| 02:00.17 | Roey | hi |
| 02:00.19 | Roey | anyone here use kspread? |
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| 02:00.29 | Roey | I don't know if this is a bug or an error in what I did: |
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| 02:00.37 | Roey | (anyone wiling to help?) |
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| 02:02.10 | zz | canllaith~ u busy? |
| 02:02.21 | zz | i can't help u but canllaith might |
| 02:02.53 | Roey | ah, ok |
| 02:02.54 | Roey | thanks! |
| 02:06.46 | Roey | in "http://roey.freeshell.org/mystuff/kde/kspread/20050721 02 Supplement Prices.ksp", if I enter "6" in cell G24, then instead of showing "6", it shows "####" superimposed over the "6". Additionally, cell H24, which depends on G24, does not show a value (but a red flag instead). What am I doing wrong? |
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| 02:12.42 | Roey | canllaith: hi |
| 02:13.09 | zz | idle half hour tho |
| 02:13.17 | Roey | ah. |
| 02:13.18 | Roey | gotcha. |
| 02:14.05 | zz | je4d~ u around? |
| 02:14.22 | zz | 10 hrs |
| 02:14.58 | zz | thiago~ u around? |
| 02:15.17 | thiago | yes |
| 02:15.34 | zz | can u help Roey or no? |
| 02:16.05 | thiago | no, sorry |
| 02:18.58 | Roey | k |
| 02:19.11 | Roey | :) |
| 02:19.13 | Roey | /who? |
| 02:19.16 | Roey | what of it you mean? |
| 02:19.19 | Roey | zz~ u around? |
| 02:19.21 | Roey | zz~ |
| 02:19.29 | zz | /who *kde |
| 02:19.32 | Roey | is that a special char, the ~? |
| 02:19.36 | Roey | aaahhhhhh |
| 02:19.43 | zz | tels u all people with kde as a host name |
| 02:19.47 | zz | no |
| 02:19.50 | Roey | ah |
| 02:19.53 | Roey | aaron seigo is here |
| 02:19.54 | zz | ~ is my nick completion |
| 02:19.57 | Roey | oh, ok |
| 02:20.02 | Roey | mine is ": " |
| 02:20.11 | zz | i like to stand out ;) |
| 02:20.24 | zz | hes gone i think |
| 02:20.27 | Roey | heh |
| 02:20.39 | Roey | what's your name? |
| 02:20.40 | Roey | I am Roey. |
| 02:20.52 | zz | look at my host |
| 02:20.58 | zz | im rr72 |
| 02:21.01 | zz | ;) |
| 02:21.06 | Roey | yeah that's why I asked :) |
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| 02:22.32 | zz | fat bastered |
| 02:22.37 | zz | thats my name ;) |
| 02:23.06 | zz | i want my baby back ribs!!!!!! |
| 02:23.14 | zz | get in my belli |
| 02:26.02 | User_X | thiago: hi htere |
| 02:26.07 | thiago | hi |
| 02:26.24 | User_X | that ksysguardd from hell is fixed |
| 02:27.42 | thiago | what was it? |
| 02:28.13 | Roey | zz: :) |
| 02:28.18 | User_X | a patch from hell that was linking non nvidia machines with libxord |
| 02:28.46 | User_X | - Desactivate patch8238: fix ksysguard+nv+hdd (causes ksysguard to fail in non nvidia machines) |
| 02:28.54 | thiago | User_X: great |
| 02:28.54 | zz | bbl |
| 02:28.58 | thiago | did you close the bug report? |
| 02:29.02 | zz | what do u need? |
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| 02:29.10 | User_X | it got me almost crazy... |
| 02:29.18 | User_X | im gg too |
| 02:30.04 | User_X | and thac didnt had this problem cause he haves a nvidia... |
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| 02:30.59 | zz | frikkin homework |
| 02:31.04 | zz | bbl |
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| 02:31.16 | User_X | thiago: u put it as Leave as RESOLVED INVALID |
| 02:32.38 | thiago | User_X: what was that bug number? |
| 02:32.49 | User_X | 108576 |
| 02:34.07 | thiago | thanks |
| 02:34.09 | thiago | I'll close it |
| 02:34.30 | thiago | it is already closed |
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| 02:35.01 | User_X | [03:30:57] <User_X> thiago: u put it as Leave as RESOLVED INVALID |
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| 02:44.48 | User_X | *** YOU'RE USING UNSERMAKE. |
| 02:44.48 | User_X | *** GOOD LUCK!! :) |
| 02:50.13 | canllaith | hi Roey |
| 02:51.33 | Roey | Jes! |
| 02:51.34 | Roey | hey hey |
| 02:51.42 | Roey | in "http://roey.freeshell.org/mystuff/kde/kspread/20050721 02 Supplement Prices.ksp", if I enter "6" in cell G24, then instead of showing "6", it shows "####" superimposed over the "6". Additionally, cell H24, which depends on G24, does not show a value (but a red flag instead). What am I doing wrong? |
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| 03:51.06 | Roey | hydrogen: hi! |
| 03:51.12 | Roey | can you help me witha kspread issue? |
| 03:51.18 | Roey | in "http://roey.freeshell.org/mystuff/kde/kspread/20050721 02 Supplement Prices.ksp", if I enter "6" in cell G24, then instead of showing "6", it shows "####" superimposed over the "6". Additionally, cell H24, which depends on G24, does not show a value (but a red flag instead). What am I doing wrong? |
| 03:51.24 | CondorDes | I've tried sending this message to kde-devel twice ... the first time, I screwed up and used the wrong identity, and the second time, I used the right identity, but the list still held it for a moderator. |
| 03:51.37 | hydrogen | uhh |
| 03:51.39 | hydrogen | was that a mistab |
| 03:51.45 | hydrogen | or did I suddenly become really popular |
| 03:51.54 | chodapp | sup hydrogen |
| 03:53.06 | hydrogen | cause to be honest.... I've got no clue about kspread, ive never used |
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| 03:53.14 | Roey | hydrogen: you're very popular |
| 03:53.15 | Roey | always |
| 03:53.17 | Roey | zz: you too |
| 03:53.19 | Roey | but you don't know it yet |
| 03:53.28 | Roey | zz: so this problem here: |
| 03:53.31 | zz | im using the kde multimedia player |
| 03:53.38 | Roey | oh |
| 03:53.38 | Roey | o |
| 03:53.40 | Roey | ok |
| 03:53.49 | zz | and xmms is on all desktops |
| 03:53.53 | zz | i don't want that |
| 03:54.01 | zz | is ther a way to disable that? |
| 03:54.29 | Roey | dunno |
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| 03:55.25 | zz | aseigo~ busy? |
| 03:55.39 | zz | its 11 pm |
| 03:55.47 | zz | i need to do some work |
| 03:55.49 | hydrogen | I know, im a drum application also! |
| 03:55.55 | avuton | I'm trying to compile konqueror from svn, and simply want to know how to compile it (sorry, I'd bet this is going to be a RTFA somewhere, but I can't seem to find the answer :/) |
| 03:56.15 | hydrogen | unsermake? |
| 03:56.40 | hydrogen | well |
| 03:56.41 | hydrogen | no |
| 03:56.45 | hydrogen | im asking, are you using unsermake |
| 03:56.51 | hydrogen | cause its different depending |
| 03:57.03 | avuton | oh, no I was ust planning on ./configure; making |
| 03:57.06 | hydrogen | I don't mind giving you the steps... its just they vary |
| 03:57.15 | hydrogen | then its your standard autotools |
| 03:57.21 | hydrogen | cept you need make -f Makefile.cvs first |
| 03:57.29 | avuton | oh :D |
| 03:57.35 | avuton | no need for the autoconf first? |
| 03:57.46 | hydrogen | make -f Makefile.cvs should generate needed stuff |
| 03:57.51 | avuton | nice! |
| 03:57.53 | avuton | Thanks :) |
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| 03:59.11 | barretj | is it possible to set my secondary monitor in a xinerama setup to be another virtual desktop than that of the first monitor? |
| 03:59.31 | barretj | or, is this feature being worked on in kde? |
| 03:59.46 | zz | who uses the music player applet for xmms? |
| 04:00.02 | zz | can i disable it to only go to one desktop? |
| 04:00.16 | avuton | barretj: does any other wm or de do that? |
| 04:00.33 | barretj | not that i know of |
| 04:00.41 | barretj | but i think it would be a very usefull feature |
| 04:00.56 | zz | fluxbox? |
| 04:01.13 | zz | maybe? dk |
| 04:01.23 | barretj | zz: does fluxbox do it? |
| 04:01.33 | zz | idk |
| 04:01.46 | zz | im throwing out wm's |
| 04:01.52 | barretj | oh |
| 04:01.54 | barretj | heh |
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| 04:02.12 | barretj | i use fluxbox at work, but i don't think it has that capability |
| 04:02.39 | barretj | lol, that was a funny quit msg |
| 04:02.42 | zz | i did find i nice page with most of the wm on it |
| 04:03.14 | zz | *a nice |
| 04:03.18 | zz | nn |
| 04:03.25 | barretj | http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ |
| 04:03.25 | zz | work time |
| 04:03.34 | barretj | is that the one you found? |
| 04:03.56 | avuton | barretj: I think the easiest way to do that is to go without xinerama, but I think the vd being both screens is the idea of xinerama. I maybe wrong |
| 04:04.57 | barretj | no, the point of xinerama is to tell the window manager that there are two separate screens, so it does not place new windows in the center so they get split, it instead places them in the center of the primary monitor |
| 04:05.19 | zz | similar but not exactly |
| 04:05.25 | barretj | oh? |
| 04:06.05 | zz | nn |
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| 05:19.03 | eisregen | hi ^^ |
| 05:19.15 | eisregen | how can I make konqi open a popup that has been blocked ? |
| 05:29.43 | aseigo | lauri: ping? |
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| 05:31.55 | aseigo | eisregen: i'm trying to find a site that has popups and for some reason can't find one atm... |
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| 05:34.31 | eisregen | aseigo: well ... mine ... I'm generating a PDF and want to open it in a popup ... since that is the easiest way ... but I just noticed when konqi blocks the popup I can't just click on the the icon in the lower right corner to open it anyway ... which would be nice feature ... and if I'm not drippin that worked some time ago ... |
| 05:34.33 | aseigo | eisregen: hrm.. apparently you need to add that domain to the allowed list and then reload the page |
| 05:35.10 | eisregen | s/drippin/trippin/ |
| 05:35.12 | eisregen | =P |
| 05:35.17 | aseigo | eisregen: yes, if you have it set to "smart" then it only allows popups from the same sight or some such |
| 05:35.25 | aseigo | i forget the exact heuristics of it |
| 05:38.34 | eisregen | aseigo: with smart it opens with user interaction ... in example when somebody clicks a javascript: link ... but it blocks passive popups ... |
| 05:38.44 | eisregen | ^^ |
| 05:41.30 | aseigo | hrm.. i thought there was some other way to get around it as well.. perhaps not. |
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| 05:44.32 | eisregen | hmmm ...amybe the sourceforge way is better ... |
| 05:45.21 | eisregen | it's just so annoying finding http headers that the right way in IE ... =/ |
| 05:47.28 | eisregen | work* |
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| 07:19.54 | eisregen | hmm ... is there any documentation what http headers konqi supports ? except the source ? |
| 07:20.01 | eisregen | 'Window-target: _blank' <- wont work =( |
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| 12:36.37 | dstambou | I'm trying to rename files with the syntax: "01 - artist - trackname", but it keeps putting the tracknumber as the artist |
| 12:36.50 | dstambou | (by rename files, I mean, get id3 tag info from filenames) |
| 12:37.04 | dstambou | aha |
| 12:37.19 | dstambou | I see the options, but have little idea what to do :) |
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| 12:45.17 | vardhman | in KDE ofcourse |
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| 12:50.15 | Squatrem | Hi, i am trying to close a specific window in a remote server running KDE, is there a way to do that from dcop ? I've looked at the kwin interface but have not found how to do it... |
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| 13:15.08 | RItalMan | hi all |
| 13:15.22 | RItalMan | I am looking for a howto in order to write a kde application handbook |
| 13:16.17 | apokryphos | RItalMan: http://i18n.kde.org/doc/markup/ |
| 13:18.10 | RItalMan | thanks a lot apokryphos |
| 13:18.51 | apokryphos | RItalMan: what is it for? If you're writing it for your own app you should know that you don't necessarily have to |
| 13:18.54 | apokryphos | there's a kde doc team |
| 13:20.02 | apokryphos | Hm, that came out wrong; if it's for a popular app you should know... |
| 13:20.32 | apokryphos | as in, a kde-supported one. Yes, I'm tired. 8) |
| 13:20.38 | RItalMan | apokryphos: no it is no my application, I am just a member of the project, and actually my task, is to write the handbook |
| 13:21.20 | apokryphos | RItalMan: oh ok. That guide is very good; though, of course, the best excercise in things like this is practice, and looking at the docbook source of other handbooks |
| 13:22.14 | RItalMan | in fact, I just update the handbook and I was just looking for the calling of the configuration menu, when it uses the standard calls |
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| 13:27.19 | qm8008135 | in konquoror, how do you make a folder carry size of all the files, subdirectories in it |
| 13:27.20 | qm8008135 | ? |
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| 13:28.41 | benJIman | qm8008135: if you right click -> properties it tells you |
| 13:28.57 | qm8008135 | benJIman, yea but that's not what i want |
| 13:29.03 | benJIman | what did you mean? |
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| 13:29.19 | qm8008135 | hmm i want to sort the "view" according to size |
| 13:29.30 | benJIman | ah, click on the size column header |
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| 13:29.45 | qm8008135 | and i want each folder to have `right click -> properties` size value |
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| 13:29.58 | qm8008135 | usually folders have small size |
| 13:30.02 | benJIman | qm8008135: hmm don't know if you can do that |
| 13:30.13 | qm8008135 | ok |
| 13:30.18 | benJIman | qm8008135: kdirstat can do it |
| 13:30.25 | qm8008135 | ok |
| 13:30.44 | benJIman | it will take a while to scan though, which is why konq doesn't presumably |
| 13:30.46 | qm8008135 | bash: kdirstat: command not found |
| 13:30.56 | qm8008135 | i don't have full kde |
| 13:30.59 | benJIman | install it then |
| 13:31.00 | qm8008135 | only base stuff |
| 13:31.02 | benJIman | (kdirstat |
| 13:31.06 | qm8008135 | ok |
| 13:31.08 | benJIman | it's in a seperate package here |
| 13:31.24 | qm8008135 | is it possible to sort files with du? |
| 13:31.27 | qm8008135 | du command? |
| 13:31.37 | benJIman | I think so, kdirstat is like a graphical du |
| 13:31.46 | qm8008135 | great |
| 13:32.56 | _poison | qm8008135: su -sm|sort |
| 13:33.09 | _poison | uhm ... du -sm of course ^^ |
| 13:33.25 | qm8008135 | great |
| 13:33.32 | HenkPoley | Is it possible to get an on screen keyboard on KD |
| 13:33.36 | HenkPoley | KDM.. |
| 13:33.43 | qm8008135 | do not include size of subdirectories that's for -s option |
| 13:33.52 | qm8008135 | but i want to include subdirectories |
| 13:33.59 | qm8008135 | oh mistaken |
| 13:34.43 | _poison | qm8008135: than just leave s away ^ ^ |
| 13:34.58 | qm8008135 | what's -m for?? |
| 13:35.03 | qm8008135 | my man page doesn't have it |
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| 13:39.48 | _poison | qm8008135: display in megabytes |
| 13:40.00 | qm8008135 | oh i see |
| 13:40.45 | bipolar | can someone help me? I'm trying to get Kontact to work with Groupwise. I can see todo list items and the calendar works. However I cant seem to get any of my contacts to display. I can see all the address books, but not the contacts. |
| 13:40.53 | batz | weiss jemand, wo ich codecs für linux downloaden kann ? |
| 13:40.55 | _poison | gnaahhh ... 600MB repo over a slow line =( |
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| 13:42.40 | bipolar | I get a message telling me the protocal "Groupwises://<servername>" died unexpectedly. :\ |
| 13:42.45 | _poison | batz: well .... just install mplayer ... if you really need everything dl the windows codec pack from the mplayer site and unpack it to the correct location before compiling mplayer ... |
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| 13:43.01 | _poison | bipolar: slow machine ? |
| 13:43.21 | bipolar | _poison, nope. 2ghz pentium M laptop w/ gig of ram. |
| 13:43.43 | _poison | batz: ggl:mplayer <- just enter this url in konqi ... |
| 13:44.00 | bipolar | _poison, only happens when I try to access my contacts. |
| 13:44.06 | batz | thanks |
| 13:44.14 | _poison | bipolar: hmmm ... always got that error with almost any protocol when my box is under really high load ... |
| 13:44.39 | _poison | bipolar: I don't even know what Groupwise is, though =P |
| 13:44.42 | _poison | ^^ |
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| 13:45.58 | _poison | bipolar: file a bug report ... |
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| 13:54.16 | geek_ | anyone have clues how to debug an applet? |
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| 13:54.41 | geek_ | I've used the appletproxy .. and kdDebug() .. but none of the mesage is pritned out |
| 13:54.48 | geek_ | any ideas? |
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| 13:56.07 | dacho | re |
| 13:56.29 | bipolar | _poison, I need to chat with a dev who works with the protocal. Novell Groupwise is a groupware system, kindof like MS Exchange |
| 13:58.13 | _poison | geek_: uhm .... do you start X with a display manager ? then there should be an logfile somewhere on your system ... if you start with startx just startx &> some.logfile and tail -f that ^^ |
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| 14:00.02 | geek_ | _poison: uhmm, actually I'm playing with kbfx and i need a way to debug some info |
| 14:01.03 | _poison | geek_: well ... the messages either already get redirected to a logfile or they are on your tty ... |
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| 14:02.05 | geek_ | _poison: i'm on tty, and started the applet with appletproxy .. some debug info printed out but it's not from the thing I've coded |
| 14:02.23 | geek_ | _poison: i guess it's from the appletproxy itself |
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| 14:04.54 | ToWoH | test |
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| 14:09.59 | _poison | geek_: hmmm ... no idea .... I get the debugmessages when running from an appletproxy |
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| 14:11.02 | geek_ | _poison: yeah .. I'm pretty confused here .. direct cout << is working .. but kdDebug() << prints nothing (?) |
| 14:11.21 | geek_ | and I geuss debuggin with cout << is nto preferred |
| 14:12.40 | _poison | geek_: well ... as long as it works(tm) ... you can do a grep -v cout < file > newfile afterwards ^^ |
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| 14:14.49 | Diavolo | HI |
| 14:16.17 | geek_ | _poison: ^^ .. I guess I'll lurk some info on lxr.kde.org before i start praticing dirty debugging :p |
| 14:20.46 | _poison | geek_: you might try #kde-devel also ^^ |
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| 14:23.15 | _poison | =( |
| 14:23.41 | aseigo | geek_: you have to turn debug on in the build for that to work for you =) |
| 14:23.47 | aseigo | geek_: otherwise kdDebug() == no output |
| 14:23.57 | aseigo | (optimization for distribution, right) |
| 14:24.14 | aseigo | and if you are using a debug area, you need to turn that on (though it looks like you aren't) |
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| 14:30.13 | geek_ | aseigo: oh .. |
| 14:30.44 | geek_ | I have KDE from rpm .. |
| 14:31.43 | aseigo | geek_: you should still be able to kdDebug() out if you have passed --enable-debug=full to configure in your app |
| 14:31.56 | texnofobix | aseigo: sorry about your neighbor :( |
| 14:31.59 | geek_ | aseigo: ahhh .. |
| 14:32.22 | aseigo | texnofobix: heh. so am i =) |
| 14:32.29 | aseigo | dont' come to close, i have dragon breath =P |
| 14:32.56 | texnofobix | that's almost like my roommate who woke me up at 12:10am to fix his network card issue .. he couldn't read teh gentoo install manual |
| 14:33.30 | texnofobix | geek_: lol |
| 14:34.27 | geek_ | aseigo: do I always need to make intall my applet each time I've compiled it? |
| 14:34.35 | aseigo | geek_: yes |
| 14:34.43 | geek_ | aseigo: :( |
| 14:34.44 | aseigo | geek_: you're writing a kicker applet? |
| 14:35.10 | geek_ | aseigo: well, not writing from scratch .. I'm playing with kbfx |
| 14:35.23 | aseigo | geek_: ah.. i see... you know about appletproxy? |
| 14:35.40 | geek_ | yes, i know about appletrpoxy |
| 14:35.48 | aseigo | good =) |
| 14:36.08 | aseigo | what are you doing w/kbfx? |
| 14:36.20 | geek_ | aseigo: I read your blog :) |
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| 14:36.59 | geek_ | well, I don't do much .. I just want to add a KConfigXT configuration dialog |
| 14:37.22 | aseigo | though i'm not really keen on it unless it's orientation() aware, handles RTL properly, and provides a mechanism to switch the left/right (or top/bottom) edges based on whether it's on the left, right or somewhere in the middle of the panel |
| 14:39.02 | geek_ | aseigo: this is what I've got so far: http://blog.neofreko.com/index.php/2005/07/18/kbfx-configuration-dialog-pt-ii/ |
| 14:40.20 | aseigo | geek_: do you want some feedback? |
| 14:41.08 | geek_ | aseigo: well, I geus there's no many thing to comment at :p .. but feedback is very very appreciated :) |
| 14:41.21 | geek_ | aseigo: mind me, I'm such a noob :p |
| 14:41.33 | aseigo | everyone's a noob at the beginning ;) |
| 14:41.49 | geek_ | shessh, you're so supporting :) |
| 14:42.24 | aseigo | you can use kurlrequester for those line edits ... then you don't need to provide your own Browse button |
| 14:42.42 | aseigo | (it's a class in libkfile, so you'll need to add that to your libadd line in the makefile.am if you haven't already) |
| 14:43.15 | aseigo | and i'd even recommend dropping the black border around the buttons... borders inside borders == visually busy |
| 14:43.43 | texnofobix | geek_: it does look cool |
| 14:44.12 | geek_ | yeah, KConfigXT *is* kewl :) |
| 14:44.20 | aseigo | yeah, it is =) |
| 14:44.22 | aseigo | i love it |
| 14:44.38 | aseigo | there are a few things that aren't so great, but we'll fix those in kde4 |
| 14:45.52 | texnofobix | kde4 will proably be better than Longhorn |
| 14:45.53 | aseigo | geek_: hrm.. you also have an unecessary margin around your widget |
| 14:45.59 | aseigo | geek_: i take it you used qt designer? |
| 14:46.09 | texnofobix | err Windows Vista .. |
| 14:47.12 | Roey | *heh* |
| 14:47.15 | Roey | I was just reading about that |
| 14:47.53 | chodapp | who wants to bet the interface looks like vomit? |
| 14:48.05 | mobtek | Windows-Most-Sad-Name-Ever-Oh-Look-Over-There-Something-Interesting |
| 14:48.16 | chodapp | Textured-mapped BSOD? |
| 14:48.28 | mobtek | chodapp: it will be transparent :P |
| 14:48.29 | Roey | oooh SHINY oooooooooooooooooooh |
| 14:48.40 | geek_ | aseigo: yes, i used qt designer :) |
| 14:48.44 | texnofobix | chodapp: LOL |
| 14:48.54 | mobtek | eheh Roey |
| 14:48.54 | Roey | now using your desktop will make you feel like a CNN anchorman |
| 14:49.01 | mobtek | texnofobix: yeah I think so too :) |
| 14:49.14 | aseigo | geek_: ok.. in designer.. click on the background of your widget, then in the properties edito go down to where it says Margin: |
| 14:49.20 | chodapp | Seriously, Windows interfaces never really struck me as "stylish" or "nice" |
| 14:49.20 | Roey | mobtek: it's that kind of shiny-moving crap like what CNN shows |
| 14:49.23 | aseigo | geek_: it will be "Default", click the up arrow once so it's 0 |
| 14:49.45 | texnofobix | chodapp: i turned mine back to the NT style .. i cant stand fisher price mode |
| 14:49.54 | aseigo | geek_: then you'll get proper alignment around the widget.. if you notice you have a KDialog::marginHint() troff around the whole thing |
| 14:50.03 | Roey | texnofobix: so other people call it fisher-price, too? :) |
| 14:50.08 | Roey | texnofobix: I thought I was the only one... |
| 14:50.13 | texnofobix | haha |
| 14:51.36 | texnofobix | just wondering does anyone use kdesvn-build? |
| 14:52.05 | geek_ | aseigo: it's layout margin .. not margin :p |
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| 14:52.11 | chodapp | Roey, calling it Fisher-Price OS has been a trend for awhile, I think. I just call it Grey Vomit or Crayola Nightmare. |
| 14:52.23 | texnofobix | haha |
| 14:53.09 | Roey | chodapp: and what the fuck is with blue everywhere |
| 14:53.13 | Roey | all the companies are using blue |
| 14:53.17 | Roey | even kde's web site does it |
| 14:53.27 | texnofobix | its soothing |
| 14:53.28 | texnofobix | ? |
| 14:53.29 | Roey | what, everyone's blue explloded? |
| 14:53.31 | Roey | *it's |
| 14:53.35 | Roey | *exploded |
| 14:53.35 | texnofobix | i like blue |
| 14:53.41 | Roey | always blue. |
| 14:53.44 | Roey | sigh. |
| 14:53.48 | Roey | I mean I like it too |
| 14:53.52 | chodapp | Blue is okay, sometimes. |
| 14:53.53 | Roey | it just seems too much at times. |
| 14:53.57 | aseigo | geek_: heh.. see what i get for doing this from memory? ;) |
| 14:54.15 | texnofobix | better than white with black text all the time |
| 14:54.23 | texnofobix | Shuddertrix: then the new suse is for you :P |
| 14:54.30 | lauri | we put green on docs.kde.org |
| 14:54.32 | aseigo | haha |
| 14:54.52 | lauri | first ten comments were like 50% oh so nice to see something not blue |
| 14:54.55 | Shuddertrix | No, it's not :P |
| 14:55.07 | lauri | and 50% oh god what's that green, make it blue like a real kde site |
| 14:55.18 | aseigo | hahaha |
| 14:55.19 | texnofobix | bluegreen! |
| 14:55.26 | aseigo | like algae! |
| 14:55.29 | texnofobix | yeah |
| 14:55.36 | lauri | oh, and a few "that green is awful, use *this* green" ones |
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| 14:55.55 | lauri | (except *that* green is from the official palette, and *their* green were random icky ones) |
| 14:55.59 | CAiRO | hi |
| 14:56.02 | Roey | lauri: heh |
| 14:56.07 | CAiRO | how can i get my mouse buttons 6 + 7 to move and resize windows interactively with all window managers? i'm trying imwheel but it doesn't seem to offer that.. so far it only works with sawfish which offers such a feature itself |
| 14:56.29 | texnofobix | doesnt X handle those buttons? |
| 14:56.51 | texnofobix | thought i was bad with 5 buttons |
| 14:57.17 | aseigo | geek_: once you've got your designed all settled in and things are fairly finalized, don't forget to add &'s to the labels so they have shortcuts (e.g. "&Normal") and to add WhatsThis help.. users love that stuff =) |
| 14:57.40 | CAiRO | texnofobix: yes, it handles them, the problem is to give them some usefull functionality |
| 14:57.47 | texnofobix | oh true |
| 14:57.58 | CAiRO | texnofobix: with imwheel i can start commands with them |
| 14:58.09 | texnofobix | can you not define them in the configs? |
| 14:58.21 | CAiRO | but i can't move windows |
| 14:58.22 | texnofobix | like the keystrokes can? |
| 14:58.56 | CAiRO | ie i want to have my mouse pointer anywhere over a window, press button 6 and be able to move the window (much like i works with button 1 and the window title bar) except that i don't have to use the titlebar |
| 14:59.07 | texnofobix | oh |
| 14:59.12 | CAiRO | same for resize |
| 14:59.22 | texnofobix | well if the feature isnt there you could help make it |
| 14:59.42 | CAiRO | how? i'm used to it from sawfish but i don't see a way to generally implement a program to do that |
| 14:59.43 | geek_ | darn, knotes stole my mouse :( |
| 14:59.53 | geek_ | aseigo: will do :) |
| 15:00.10 | CAiRO | i would always have to patch the window manager i want to have it, wouldn't i? |
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| 15:00.26 | texnofobix | i'm not sure |
| 15:00.27 | texnofobix | bbl |
| 15:00.34 | texnofobix | brb |
| 15:00.50 | CAiRO | anyway, i think it's a pitty there isn't such a thing already.. what do you people do with all your mouse buttons? |
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| 15:03.03 | aseigo | CAiRO: donate them to charity |
| 15:03.04 | parapente | well I don't have many! 3 are enough for me :-) |
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| 15:03.36 | aseigo | CAiRO: or else i just let them go into the wild... so cute to see freed mouse buttons scamper off into the woods |
| 15:03.47 | parapente | looool |
| 15:03.51 | CAiRO | doesn't most new mice have at least a thumb button in addition to the 'normal' 3? |
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| 15:05.42 | CAiRO | i mean it makes sense to have a shortcut on button6 to start a term or whatever but what i do a lot more often is to move and resize windows.. but maybe other don't? |
| 15:09.05 | CAiRO | well.. technically, a 3 button scroll mice already has 5 buttons.. so when i'm talking about button 6 + 7 i actually mean 4 + 5 |
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| 15:14.38 | texnofobix | ooh |
| 15:14.49 | texnofobix | i got a kensington 5 button usb |
| 15:17.34 | texnofobix | CAiRO: we're all just poor |
| 15:17.40 | texnofobix | I got mine for $20 |
| 15:18.51 | Matt___ | What is the executable for showing the laptop battery monitor in the sys tray? |
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| 15:19.59 | texnofobix | kbattery? |
| 15:20.23 | texnofobix | err |
| 15:20.26 | Matt___ | if it is, I don't have it :P |
| 15:20.29 | texnofobix | Matt___: is a applet |
| 15:20.36 | texnofobix | *it's |
| 15:20.47 | texnofobix | right click your system bar |
| 15:20.51 | texnofobix | add applet |
| 15:20.59 | texnofobix | err add to panel |
| 15:21.17 | texnofobix | hmm |
| 15:21.23 | texnofobix | i forget .. where it is |
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| 15:24.02 | Matt___ | hm, doesn't appear to be showing up on my applets... |
| 15:24.19 | texnofobix | i'm on my desktop but i did have it on my laptop |
| 15:24.31 | Matt___ | ah |
| 15:24.33 | Matt___ | hrm |
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| 15:26.46 | geek_ | texnofobix: don't kick you box .. lemme have it if you don't like it anymore ^^ |
| 15:26.58 | texnofobix | actually it was my connection |
| 15:27.09 | texnofobix | i love my box |
| 15:27.29 | Matt___ | I have "Show battery monitor" checked in the control center, too -- nothing comes up. |
| 15:27.36 | geek_ | *sigh* |
| 15:27.37 | texnofobix | ooh |
| 15:27.46 | texnofobix | i got a 486 sitting here too |
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| 15:29.27 | texnofobix | Matt___: try kcmlaptop? |
| 15:30.08 | Matt___ | don't have that, oddly enough |
| 15:31.48 | texnofobix | hmm |
| 15:32.02 | texnofobix | http://www.taniwha.com/laptop/ |
| 15:32.09 | texnofobix | http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Utilities/Laptop/ |
| 15:33.08 | Matt___ | ah thanks :) |
| 15:33.19 | geek_ | chodapp: w00t |
| 15:33.19 | texnofobix | me too |
| 15:33.26 | texnofobix | chodapp: i ran kde2 |
| 15:33.34 | chodapp | Old version though. And it was on Caldera OpenLinux 1.2. |
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| 15:42.18 | Diavolo | Is there a way to add a frame arround systray and clock in my kicker? :) |
| 15:43.50 | aseigo | Diavolo: you can turn the frame for the clock on in its configuration. for the systray, yes but you have to hand edit the config file |
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| 15:44.28 | Diavolo | aseigo: That would be no problem, can you tell me where and what to change :) |
| 15:44.52 | chodapp | Who has recommendations for something like gkrellm but in the dock? gkrellm is getting in the way a lot. |
| 15:44.59 | aseigo | chodapp: ksim |
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| 15:46.15 | chodapp | Thanks. |
| 15:46.47 | aseigo | Diavolo: open up `kde-config --localprefix`/share/config/systemtray_panelappletrc in your text editor of choice |
| 15:46.59 | aseigo | Diavolo: in the [General] section add: ShowPanelFrame=true |
| 15:47.15 | aseigo | Diavolo: you'll need to do a `dcop kicker kicker restart` after |
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| 15:48.14 | Diavolo | wow it works |
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| 15:49.02 | aseigo | Diavolo: of course it does =) |
| 15:49.11 | Diavolo | Are there more options to set in that config file? |
| 15:49.26 | aseigo | what sort of options? |
| 15:49.44 | Diavolo | icon size :) |
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| 15:50.07 | Diavolo | is there an overview about all possible options? |
| 15:51.15 | Diavolo | aseigo: without that frame, I see a frame when i go with my mouse on an icon in the system tray |
| 15:51.29 | Diavolo | can i disable that? :) |
| 15:51.44 | _batz | l |
| 15:52.20 | aseigo | Diavolo: yes |
| 15:52.25 | Diavolo | cool |
| 15:52.26 | Diavolo | tell me |
| 15:53.43 | aseigo | HideTrayFrame=true |
| 15:54.05 | cilkay | Hello. I am trying to figure out how to encrypt messages using GPG in KMail. I have KGpg installed and my keychain loaded. The key I need to use to encrypt is in the keychain but when I select it, I get a red X through its icon and the OK button is not enabled. The KMail Handbook is not of much help. How can I encrypt messages using GPG with KMail? |
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| 15:54.11 | Diavolo | also that workes, thank yu aseigo |
| 15:54.25 | aseigo | Diavolo: np ... |
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| 15:55.22 | aseigo | cilkay: ah.. you need the crypto plugin setup properly... you may want to ask in #kontact or on kdepim-users@kde.org |
| 15:55.43 | chodapp | anyone know why my sound mixer applet totally disappears anytime I move it? |
| 15:56.05 | aseigo | chodapp: anytime you move it? |
| 15:56.15 | cilkay | aseigo, I can sign messages but not encrypt. Does that sound like it is not set up properly? |
| 15:56.25 | aseigo | cilkay: yes |
| 15:56.37 | texnofobix | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/normandyhigh/scaredkitty.jpg |
| 15:56.41 | chodapp | Well, try to reduce its size . . . it has like 400 mixer items, I only need 5, so I configure it and remove those... when I make it smaller to get rid of all the empty space, it disappears. |
| 15:56.42 | cilkay | aseigo, ok, thank you. Will ask on #kontact |
| 15:56.52 | chodapp | and just empty space remains. |
| 15:59.08 | aseigo | chodapp: screenshot? |
| 16:03.01 | chodapp | ftp://mershell.no-ip.org/kde1.jpg . . . .before resizing.... |
| 16:03.09 | chodapp | ftp://mershell.no-ip.org/kde2.jpg . . . .after resizing |
| 16:03.46 | chodapp | crap, I did something wrong, they're identical |
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| 16:04.27 | texnofobix | hey why arent you using kopete! :P |
| 16:04.38 | chodapp | BECAUSE IT WON'T WORK! |
| 16:04.47 | texnofobix | oh? |
| 16:04.55 | chodapp | No. It will NOT connect. Period. |
| 16:05.03 | texnofobix | and ... konverstation |
| 16:05.12 | texnofobix | my aim drops a lot |
| 16:05.16 | chodapp | Ok, try the second screenshot again, it's slightly updated |
| 16:05.36 | chodapp | Well... my AIM will not connect. period. Doesn't give any errors or anything. That's not acceptable, hence I use Gaim, as much as I hate it for being buggy trash. |
| 16:06.04 | texnofobix | true |
| 16:06.15 | texnofobix | i'm using centericq |
| 16:06.21 | chodapp | now, see the blank grey panel with the missing mixer items? |
| 16:07.42 | chodapp | aseigo, given up already? |
| 16:08.16 | aseigo | chodapp: sorry.. was busy elsewhere ;) |
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| 16:09.12 | chodapp | and gkrellm is nice but it gets in the way.... |
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| 16:09.26 | aseigo | chodapp: oh wow. that's brokken =/ what v of kde? |
| 16:09.59 | chodapp | 3.3.2 . . . should probably upgrade, but it's pretty big... |
| 16:11.21 | chodapp | it work on yours? |
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| 16:18.35 | anisX | so long and good nite.. |
| 16:18.40 | anisX | so long..not goodnight |
| 16:18.48 | anisX | :( |
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| 16:25.59 | wwallace | how do make the icons on the panel smaller? |
| 16:26.39 | Venson | wwallace: you need the QuickLauncher |
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| 16:26.58 | [jchoisy] | Hi there |
| 16:27.21 | wwallace | the icons on the quick launcher how do i make them smaller? |
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| 16:28.05 | Venson | the icons on the quicklauncher should be small already |
| 16:28.13 | Venson | how small exactly do you want to make them? |
| 16:28.31 | wwallace | just a little smaller |
| 16:29.03 | wwallace | as a matter of fact they are the same size a s the size of the desktop icons' |
| 16:29.27 | Venson | makes no sense....check that you have a QuickLauncher applet..... |
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| 16:29.35 | wwallace | how di know that? |
| 16:29.47 | Venson | actually, you can set the icon sizes in quicklauncher |
| 16:30.04 | wwallace | how do i know if i have quick launch? |
| 16:30.17 | Venson | right-click on the applet and check what kind it is.... |
| 16:30.33 | Venson | you should get a menu...one of which says "QuickLauncher Menu" |
| 16:30.46 | wwallace | what applet? |
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| 16:31.39 | Venson | gah....the applet on your panel |
| 16:31.50 | wwallace | ok suppose i right click on my xchat applet.......... |
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| 16:32.05 | Venson | :-S |
| 16:32.13 | wwallace | i get move xchat irc button........... |
| 16:32.24 | wwallace | remove xchat irc button......... |
| 16:32.35 | wwallace | properties.......... |
| 16:32.41 | wwallace | and........ |
| 16:32.46 | wwallace | panel menu |
| 16:32.50 | wwallace | thats all i get |
| 16:33.08 | Venson | dont right-click on the button.....right-click on the panel itself |
| 16:33.48 | wwallace | dont have space to click on the panel\ |
| 16:34.02 | wwallace | is full of icons like.11 icons |
| 16:34.17 | wwallace | then i have the 4 desktops controll |
| 16:34.23 | wwallace | my programs open |
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| 16:34.27 | wwallace | the us flag |
| 16:34.32 | Venson | there's a "handler" to the left...if you move your mouse above it, it should show up |
| 16:34.34 | wwallace | the sounsd speaker |
| 16:34.44 | wwallace | the superkaramba |
| 16:34.46 | wwallace | gaim |
| 16:34.49 | wwallace | and the clocok |
| 16:35.16 | Venson | http://armidale.sourceforge.net/images/kde_desktop.png <-- look at the "black thing" next to the 1 2 3 4 of the desktops |
| 16:35.17 | wwallace | next to the k? |
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| 16:35.34 | Venson | yes....but look for the one that corresponds to your applet |
| 16:37.18 | wwallace | in that link thers only 3 quick launch icons right? |
| 16:38.37 | Venson | wwallace: i'm not sure those are quicklaunch icons....but feel free to check on your system |
| 16:38.40 | wwallace | Venson: i got it |
| 16:39.14 | wwallace | panel menu>configurechammel>i choose tyni |
| 16:40.26 | wwallace | Venson: thank u for your help |
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| 16:57.27 | User_X | still isnt possible build kdevelop with unsermake |
| 16:59.01 | anisX | hmmm |
| 16:59.08 | anisX | what command to show all the hdd in my system ? |
| 16:59.14 | anisX | ls -al|grep hd ? |
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| 17:00.05 | anisX | df! |
| 17:00.06 | anisX | grr |
| 17:02.37 | Venson | anisX: df only shows your mounts |
| 17:03.05 | Venson | anisX: fdisk lists partitions....not sure there's one command that lists all hdd's |
| 17:03.22 | anisX | Venson: i just buy the added the new hdd |
| 17:03.28 | anisX | i want to mount it in Linux |
| 17:04.30 | Venson | anisX: after you hook it up, it should first be recognized in your BIOS....did you check that? |
| 17:05.07 | anisX | im using pci raid IDE Venson |
| 17:05.17 | anisX | yes..they recognized it |
| 17:05.25 | anisX | format with fat32 in windows OS |
| 17:05.31 | Venson | hmm....i'm not very knowledgeable about RAID stuff |
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| 17:06.36 | anisX | thanks anyway |
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| 17:21.55 | xbeanx | does kde have a color picker tool? |
| 17:22.06 | apokryphos | xbeanx: kcoloredit |
| 17:22.18 | xbeanx | thanks apokryphos |
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| 17:28.19 | sredna | Hm, I seem to have a problem with konqueror uploading files :( |
| 17:29.15 | anisX | dont sad |
| 17:29.19 | anisX | chill :D |
| 17:29.20 | sredna | Hi anisX :) |
| 17:29.28 | anisX | hai sredna! |
| 17:29.29 | anisX | :D |
| 17:29.45 | sredna | I'm trying to create a cellphone wallpaper using a web service, but it seems I can't upload the image |
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| 17:32.14 | anisX | i wish i can help you sredna :/ |
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| 17:32.27 | [jchoisy] | Hello |
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| 17:32.56 | [jchoisy] | I have kwallet turned off, and I'm looking for a way to tell konqi that I never want to remember passwords... Is there a way? |
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| 17:33.11 | sredna | Firefox seems to work, so maybe I just need to update my KHTML |
| 17:35.00 | sredna | Hm, isn't there a opensource app that can create cellphone images? They are just some sort of bitmaps, or? |
| 17:35.11 | sredna | They want money :o |
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| 17:39.06 | raijin | anyone in here use any other WM, specifically fluxbox? rather than KWIN |
| 17:39.07 | raijin | ? |
| 17:39.18 | texnofobix | hmm not normally |
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| 17:41.33 | teatime | no, why would we do that? ;) |
| 17:41.59 | raijin | why? cuz KWIN sux |
| 17:42.07 | raijin | IMHO |
| 17:42.18 | raijin | but i love KDE dont get me twisted |
| 17:42.21 | supernix | how can you view html messages with images without allowing all messages with images to be shown ? |
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| 17:43.06 | raijin | hmm maybe i will jsut go back to E + KDE |
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| 17:45.14 | teatime | you can setup KDE to use a different wm.. but since KDE-2.0 I never saw any need |
| 17:45.21 | teatime | used to like window maker though |
| 17:46.36 | raijin | teatime: yeah its not using it thats the prob its the specifics of configuring it |
| 17:47.04 | raijin | i really hate KWIN for some reason, and i just like to have the option |
| 17:47.14 | teatime | raijin: in theory it's as simple as setting an environment variable |
| 17:47.24 | raijin | teatime: KDEWM |
| 17:47.28 | teatime | right |
| 17:47.41 | raijin | but for some reson flux wont play nice |
| 17:47.48 | raijin | blackbox does |
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| 17:47.59 | raijin | as does enlightenment dr 16 |
| 17:48.13 | teatime | sounds like a problem with flux then |
| 17:48.34 | raijin | yeah you are probably right, i was just fishing for some empathy |
| 17:48.44 | teatime | :) |
| 17:48.45 | raijin | ;) |
| 17:49.00 | teatime | Dhraakellian: he doesn't like it :) |
| 17:49.36 | raijin | Dhraakellian: well originally i chose enlightenment because of the virtual and multiple desktops |
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| 17:50.48 | raijin | Dhraakellian: then the kids were confused so i switched to blackbox cuz it was easier to grasp |
| 17:50.54 | raijin | now i am experimenting |
| 17:51.11 | raijin | i wish i could get lookingglass to work |
| 17:51.24 | raijin | with KDE |
| 17:51.39 | teatime | ouch! |
| 17:52.03 | teatime | you mean that thing is in theory working? :) |
| 17:52.09 | raijin | heh |
| 17:52.25 | raijin | nasssty java |
| 17:52.28 | teatime | is it good for anything apart from ludicrious screenshots? |
| 17:52.35 | raijin | not that i have found |
| 17:52.46 | raijin | its a good idea though |
| 17:53.01 | raijin | sorta |
| 17:53.20 | raijin | needs a 3d screen like a hologram to really be functional i think |
| 17:53.24 | Dhraakellian | mmmm |
| 17:53.33 | teatime | lol |
| 17:53.58 | Dhraakellian | simple, small, and darned good looking |
| 17:54.14 | raijin | Dhraakellian: i remember the #amaroK guys talking about something like that in passing, what is it? |
| 17:54.16 | Dhraakellian | (IMnsHO) |
| 17:55.10 | Dhraakellian | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=13969 <--crystal |
| 17:55.24 | Dhraakellian | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=18983 <--crystal-gl, which I have not tried |
| 17:56.31 | raijin | ty |
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| 17:57.31 | Dhraakellian | (and when I say "small", I mean that it can be set to be as small or as big as one wants) |
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| 18:07.31 | Dhraakellian | methinks opengl stuff likes wreak havoc with my system |
| 18:07.37 | Dhraakellian | or at least freeze it |
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| 18:26.48 | anisX | all the site need money |
| 18:26.52 | anisX | duh :/ |
| 18:26.59 | PhilRod | hi anisX :-) |
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| 18:27.42 | Dhraakellian | okay, how does one change the window decoration without opening kcontrol module? |
| 18:27.45 | Dhraakellian | hmm... |
| 18:27.47 | anisX | PhilRod!!! |
| 18:27.51 | anisX | how are u PhilRod ? |
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| 18:28.20 | aseigo | Dhraakellian: by editting the kwinrc |
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| 18:30.51 | User_X | anyone knows when kdedevelop will be possible to build with unsermake? |
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| 18:31.48 | Dhraakellian | ...or change the theme |
| 18:31.55 | PhilRod | anisX: I'm very well thanks - how are you? |
| 18:32.08 | Dhraakellian | a tad bit of overkill, but it worked |
| 18:32.21 | Dhraakellian | and, crap, I lost my wallpaper settings when I did that |
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| 18:32.57 | anisX | PhilRod: im good too..just cannot find free themes for my handset in google |
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| 18:36.17 | anisX | try my luck using apollon |
| 18:36.23 | zz | hello |
| 18:36.29 | PhilRod | hi zz |
| 18:36.51 | zz | is there a way to make the xmms plugin only start on one desktop? the active one |
| 18:37.12 | zz | auto sets to all |
| 18:42.24 | jorgp2 | anyone else experience problems with kmail in 3.4.1, just hanging on mail check after it checks a few times, then I have to kill it and restart to get mail again |
| 18:43.05 | PhilRod | are you using any anti-spam/virus stuff? |
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| 18:43.14 | jorgp2 | yes |
| 18:43.43 | jorgp2 | clamav, f-prot, bogofilter, spamassassin |
| 18:44.10 | texnofobix | spamassassin will lag kmail |
| 18:44.13 | texnofobix | i turned it off |
| 18:44.36 | teatime | spamc/spamd makes it usable |
| 18:44.40 | teatime | if still slow |
| 18:45.35 | PhilRod | non-blocking filter processes are what's really needed (and I think it's one of the most voted-for bugs in the DB) |
| 18:46.01 | jorgp2 | what else to use? bogofilter can not do the job itself |
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| 18:46.27 | aseigo | PhilRod: yeah.. don't expect it before the great pim reorg in kde4 though |
| 18:46.44 | zz | aby help with my problem? |
| 18:46.53 | _allanon | is bnv_qt_test.c something that should be present in a typical KDE installation? |
| 18:47.00 | jorgp2 | hi aseigo |
| 18:47.08 | aseigo | jorgp2: hey ho |
| 18:47.09 | zz | canllaith~ can u help me?? |
| 18:47.10 | texnofobix | zz i hope your problem isnt that you can actually ask your question |
| 18:47.25 | zz | i asked it |
| 18:47.29 | texnofobix | oh |
| 18:47.35 | zz | i don't like to repost cause it annoys people |
| 18:47.38 | aseigo | zz: you want to make it always start on a specific desktpo? |
| 18:47.41 | aseigo | er, desktop |
| 18:47.43 | texnofobix | in kde? |
| 18:47.44 | zz | yes |
| 18:47.47 | texnofobix | i think it is a option |
| 18:47.51 | jorgp2 | aseigo: trying to decide if I want to go back to 3.4.x, konq still will not run for me |
| 18:48.16 | texnofobix | i think it is an xmms setting zz |
| 18:48.25 | texnofobix | if not define the option by righclicking the title bar |
| 18:48.26 | zz | texnofobix~ im smart enough to look in settings |
| 18:48.28 | jorgp2 | I might reboot first, byt valgind did say there was some memory leaking |
| 18:48.30 | texnofobix | ooh |
| 18:48.31 | aseigo | zz: select the xmms window, bring up the window menu with the keyboard shortcut (e.g. alt+f3), select Advanced -> Special Window Settings |
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| 18:48.53 | texnofobix | i apologize zz :/ |
| 18:48.54 | zz | it only happens when i start it from the applet tho |
| 18:48.56 | aseigo | zz: on the Geometry page, check Desktop, select Apply Initially and select desktop from the drop down |
| 18:49.29 | zz | it used to |
| 18:49.31 | zz | hehe |
| 18:50.02 | jorgp2 | aseigo: problem is once you switch to head, it's hard to go back to 3.4, because of the features and such |
| 18:50.16 | aseigo | jorgp2: that's a problem? ;) |
| 18:50.44 | texnofobix | i've never tried the head build |
| 18:50.54 | jorgp2 | no not really, I have a kdesvn user that I use for head, normal user has kde 3.4 |
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| 18:55.52 | zz | aseigo~ do i need to restert kkde? |
| 18:57.40 | zz | xmms is acting wierd |
| 18:57.49 | texnofobix | i like amaroK |
| 18:57.56 | texnofobix | sometiems it is buggy though |
| 18:58.04 | zz | idc right now |
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| 18:58.16 | texnofobix | xmms is good |
| 18:58.22 | zz | i do advenced settings and it acts the same |
| 18:58.43 | texnofobix | yeah |
| 18:59.01 | apokryphos | xmms is evil |
| 18:59.12 | lauri | xmms is an ancient pile of crap held together with baling twine and chewing gum |
| 18:59.23 | supernix | how is xmms evil ? |
| 18:59.28 | lauri | if you *must* use it, and like the interface and the skinning, at least use beep |
| 18:59.35 | apokryphos | lauri: but it looks like winamp!! Yay! |
| 18:59.36 | texnofobix | yeah but it does do it's job |
| 18:59.40 | lauri | so does beep |
| 18:59.48 | lauri | but it uses a toolkit from this century at least |
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| 18:59.59 | lauri | and doesn't freak out if you give it id3 tags in kanji |
| 19:00.15 | zz | xmms rox |
| 19:00.24 | lauri | and can still use all the same skins and stuff (it's almost a straight port of xmms to gtk2) |
| 19:00.26 | apokryphos | :| |
| 19:00.30 | zz | wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:00.34 | zz | this doesnt work |
| 19:00.44 | lauri | zz: and this is not #xmms |
| 19:00.52 | zz | its kde related |
| 19:00.56 | zz | read what i posted |
| 19:01.04 | zz | im pissed: this doesnt fucking work |
| 19:01.21 | lauri | oh we're talking about window properties? |
| 19:01.35 | lauri | no, that won't work, because xmms is ancient, non-anything compliant, and doesn't understand what you're trying to do |
| 19:01.47 | zz | i didnt ask u |
| 19:01.54 | apokryphos | zz: you asked the channel |
| 19:02.07 | zz | lauri~ have u used the applet? |
| 19:02.23 | lauri | what applet? |
| 19:02.23 | User_X | zz: what seams to be the problem? |
| 19:02.37 | zz | the multimeadi applet |
| 19:02.45 | apokryphos | lauri: why, the supreme glory of xmms of course :P |
| 19:02.46 | lauri | yes, use it all the time |
| 19:02.51 | lauri | of course, I don't use it with xmms |
| 19:02.56 | lauri | so for me, it works |
| 19:02.58 | User_X | zz: wich applet |
| 19:02.59 | zz | when i launch xmms it goes to all |
| 19:03.10 | zz | i don't want it to |
| 19:03.54 | zz | and i have it set to desktop 4 initially |
| 19:03.55 | apokryphos | zz: have you tried amaroK out? |
| 19:04.12 | PhilRod | zz: you mean xmms goes to all desktops/ |
| 19:04.14 | PhilRod | ? |
| 19:04.23 | lauri | zz: xmms does not understand the NET_WM hints stuff |
| 19:04.29 | zz | it used to work before i updated to 2.6 |
| 19:04.37 | lauri | beep might, because it's gtk2 |
| 19:04.41 | lauri | 2.6 of what? |
| 19:04.43 | User_X | zz: try amarok, its cool |
| 19:04.45 | zz | PhilRod~ thats what i posted up there |
| 19:04.55 | zz | IM NOT SWITCHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:05.05 | zz | kde 2.6 |
| 19:05.17 | User_X | 2.6??? |
| 19:05.20 | Alethes | oO |
| 19:05.26 | User_X | dont u know kde-3.4.2? |
| 19:05.38 | lauri | there is no such thing as kde 2.6 |
| 19:06.02 | zz | thats my kernal |
| 19:06.05 | User_X | lol |
| 19:06.10 | zz | 3.4 A |
| 19:06.14 | User_X | thats why u dont get things working |
| 19:06.26 | zz | 3.4.1 level "A" |
| 19:06.41 | User_X | zz: wich distro? |
| 19:06.43 | zz | any ideas lauri |
| 19:06.44 | PhilRod | zz: open xmms, give it focus, hit Alt+F3, and go to "To Desktop" -> Unselect all desktops |
| 19:06.58 | lauri | no, I gave up helping you because you won't listen, and are rude |
| 19:07.15 | zz | PhilRod~ it starts in all |
| 19:07.16 | User_X | lauri: his pissed, give him a break |
| 19:07.36 | lauri | and he didn't ask me, remember? |
| 19:07.41 | zz | u can just right click on the thing on the bottom too ;) |
| 19:07.51 | User_X | thing? |
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| 19:07.57 | texnofobix | everyone cool it ... we dont need rifts in teh OS community |
| 19:08.20 | lauri | heh |
| 19:08.22 | lauri | you nearly had me |
| 19:08.23 | zz | ive been going through this for a couple of days |
| 19:08.24 | lauri | very funny |
| 19:08.34 | lauri | zz: do *exactly* what phil says |
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| 19:08.48 | zz | that doesnt make it start in only one |
| 19:08.49 | lauri | don't "and you can do it some other way" ... do *exactly* what phil tells you |
| 19:08.53 | User_X | zz: i dont use for a long time xmms, believe amarok is much better |
| 19:09.08 | lauri | not everything we say is intended to fix the problem immediately |
| 19:09.19 | texnofobix | the newest version has soem bugs fixed i've noticed User_X |
| 19:09.19 | lauri | sometimes we're trying to identify *where* the problem is, and which bit of software is causing it |
| 19:09.29 | lauri | and you've just spent two days fighting it and not winning |
| 19:09.33 | User_X | r |
| 19:09.39 | User_X | texnofobix: version od what? |
| 19:09.46 | texnofobix | amaroK |
| 19:10.02 | zz | is there another #kde chan on dif net? |
| 19:10.03 | texnofobix | 1.2 crashed alot on me |
| 19:10.07 | User_X | im using one with one week old from svn branch |
| 19:10.16 | zz | i don't want to get a +b |
| 19:10.17 | lauri | so do yourself a favour, and do *exactly* what Phil says, so we can troubleshoot (considering you can't tell what version of anything you're running, we can't be sure if you 'just click on the thing on the bottom' you're actually getting the same menu as provided by kwin that we want you to be getting) |
| 19:10.22 | texnofobix | i've got 1.3-beta2 |
| 19:10.30 | lauri | you won't get a +b, unless you piss me off a little more |
| 19:10.37 | lauri | so, calm down |
| 19:10.40 | apokryphos | zz: #gnome is a good other channel |
| 19:10.43 | texnofobix | User_X: i'm trying to build the newest kde now |
| 19:10.45 | lauri | and do as Phil said |
| 19:10.54 | User_X | texnofobix: im finishing it |
| 19:11.02 | User_X | texnofobix: wich distro? |
| 19:11.16 | texnofobix | i'm on SuSE .. i was lazy with this box |
| 19:11.17 | User_X | texnofobix: im finishing kdewebdev |
| 19:11.31 | rr72_ | it works what phil says |
| 19:11.39 | User_X | ah Suse, if u use same as me, u could install already latest kde branch |
| 19:11.45 | rr72_ | it makes it the one i want |
| 19:11.56 | texnofobix | User_X: i'm building off svn |
| 19:12.02 | rr72_ | but i don't want to do that every time |
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| 19:12.12 | User_X | texnofobix: off svn? meaning? |
| 19:12.17 | PhilRod | rr72_: so, close xmms, restart it, and see if it saved the setting |
| 19:12.23 | rr72_ | no |
| 19:12.33 | texnofobix | compiling from sources on kdesvn |
| 19:12.34 | lauri | PhilRod: do *exactly* what phil is telling you |
| 19:12.35 | lauri | nothing else |
| 19:12.49 | rr72_ | i tired it already |
| 19:12.49 | User_X | texnofobix: so what did i said? |
| 19:13.07 | texnofobix | ? |
| 19:13.32 | User_X | didnt i said i mfinish building kde from kde branch from svn |
| 19:13.38 | texnofobix | yeah |
| 19:13.49 | rr72_ | and is it possible to make it not always on top? |
| 19:13.50 | texnofobix | sorry my minds going in too many directions |
| 19:13.50 | User_X | so what can be more updated? |
| 19:14.11 | texnofobix | i'm also reading up on how to install and setup a rsync server for this game mod |
| 19:14.12 | apokryphos | rr72_: in the KDE Panel, right-click on it |
| 19:14.37 | User_X | well kdewebdev is just finished, now only misses hdegames |
| 19:15.39 | rr72_ | nvm |
| 19:15.47 | rr72_ | ill use windows media player |
| 19:15.51 | texnofobix | haha |
| 19:15.52 | rr72_ | much easier |
| 19:15.58 | texnofobix | winamp > WMP |
| 19:16.10 | texnofobix | even MPC > WMP |
| 19:16.14 | rr72_ | plus i have my better speakers on my windows 2k pro box |
| 19:16.30 | rr72_ | for my dvds |
| 19:16.39 | texnofobix | eww doze |
| 19:16.46 | texnofobix | i'm 80% windows free |
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| 19:18.24 | rr72_ | i used to like xmms before i updated kde |
| 19:19.00 | texnofobix | how many in here used KDE2? |
| 19:19.36 | User_X | im 100% windows free |
| 19:19.55 | User_X | rr72_: poor baby |
| 19:19.57 | texnofobix | i'm gonna have to develop with asp and .net at work :( |
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| 19:20.27 | rr72_ | me goes to play games on win2k box |
| 19:20.50 | rr72_ | 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times better than little penguins flying around to catch fish |
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| 19:21.07 | texnofobix | ?? |
| 19:21.10 | netsurf3 | lol |
| 19:21.15 | texnofobix | i dont game much |
| 19:21.20 | netsurf3 | tux |
| 19:21.22 | texnofobix | i'm too busy trying new cool OS things |
| 19:21.28 | netsurf3 | tux racer |
| 19:21.31 | netsurf3 | lol |
| 19:21.37 | netsurf3 | nice game actualy |
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| 19:23.14 | netsurf3 | could someone help me running suse 9.1 kde 3.4.1 on switching to another session (another user) and then ending that session gives me a lock-up |
| 19:23.50 | netsurf3 | black screen and mouse movement for 20sec before complete system lock-up |
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| 19:25.11 | chowells | nutshell42: hardware fault or kernel bug, nothing KDE can do about it |
| 19:25.15 | chowells | erm |
| 19:25.17 | chowells | netsurf3 |
| 19:25.22 | netsurf3 | yes |
| 19:25.30 | netsurf3 | oh ok |
| 19:25.34 | netsurf3 | thanks |
| 19:26.06 | chowells | nothing should cause Linux to crash (assuming it is Linux) -- see if you can get a kernel crash trace or something |
| 19:26.53 | netsurf3 | well maybe just a gui lock-up but i cant kill server when it happens (ctrl+alt+backspace) |
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| 19:27.37 | Zeep | Hey guys |
| 19:27.51 | netsurf3 | hallo |
| 19:28.08 | chowells | netsurf3: see if you can ssh in or something |
| 19:28.24 | netsurf3 | how do you mean |
| 19:28.27 | netsurf3 | ssh? |
| 19:28.43 | chowells | log into the machine remotely using ssh |
| 19:28.51 | netsurf3 | ohh |
| 19:29.01 | chowells | http://www.openssh.com/ |
| 19:29.03 | netsurf3 | just a sec this person explains it better |
| 19:29.11 | Zeep | I didn't find any Java channel on freenode - so: What would you preferr for Java Development: NetBeans or Eclipse (with Jigloo for Interface Building?) - Thank you :-) |
| 19:29.20 | aseigo | eclipse |
| 19:29.34 | netsurf3 | hmm |
| 19:29.36 | netsurf3 | basicly |
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| 19:29.48 | Zeep | Of course, Eclipse is Open Source, I know :-) |
| 19:30.24 | Zeep | aseigo: BTW, I read your blog entries pretty often |
| 19:30.25 | netsurf3 | i login fine but if i lock a session and then login to another once i logout of the new session in kde i get the lock-up |
| 19:31.45 | vardhman | have some doubts regarding application/x-www-form-urlencoded can some one help? |
| 19:31.57 | aseigo | Zeep: cool .. hope they are worthwhile / enjoyable =) i know i have fun writing them |
| 19:34.25 | Zeep | aseigo: Yeah, I agree to pretty much that you state - one of the best blogs, maybe even my preferred one :-) |
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| 19:36.21 | raphael | hi * |
| 19:36.32 | gardo | . |
| 19:37.05 | PhilRod | vardhman: just ask |
| 19:37.11 | PhilRod | hi raphael |
| 19:37.24 | raphael | hi PhilRod, I couldn't resist joining this channel now |
| 19:40.25 | Dhraakellian | You have: |
| 19:40.29 | Dhraakellian | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.27 | vardhman | k, when I use KIO::http_post and set content type to x-url-encoded, what is the data argument supposed to contain, I mean which part of Query String ? |
| 19:42.04 | PhilRod | vardhman: someone here might know, but you probably want to ask in #kde-devel |
| 19:42.31 | vardhman | PhilRod: thanks I will do that |
| 19:43.43 | raphael | Is anyone using KDE on NetBSD? How well does it run there / any issues? |
| 19:44.21 | PhilRod | raphael: I think there's a guy on the kde-nonlinux ml who does |
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| 19:46.27 | raphael | PhilRod, do you remember his name? |
| 19:46.53 | PhilOut | Dave Feustel, I think |
| 19:47.06 | PhilOut | maybe it's openbsd though - the guys in #kde-freebsd will probably know |
| 19:47.09 | PhilOut | bye |
| 19:47.36 | raphael | bye PhilOut, thx |
| 19:47.46 | Dhraakellian | gaaaah |
| 19:48.00 | lauri | mark espie used to package it for netbsd or openbsd (I can never keep those straight) |
| 19:48.16 | lauri | one of them it's pretty up to date, and works ok, the other, not so much of either |
| 19:48.22 | raphael | oh, found the one, it's really OpenBSD :) |
| 19:48.27 | Dhraakellian | and it's getting *really* annoying when a tab decides that it needs to be in focus |
| 19:48.35 | Dhraakellian | rather than the one I'm currently reading |
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| 19:51.32 | lauri | I still don't know where that's coming from, mine doesn't do it |
| 19:51.37 | dny | hi! i use nvidia twinview and i want windows either on one screen or on the other, not over both, can anyone help me? |
| 19:51.40 | lauri | (we already had this conversation :) |
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| 19:55.05 | vardhman | dny: AFAIK thats a well known issue still not solved |
| 19:55.38 | dny | vardhman: thx then i don't have to search therefore |
| 19:55.52 | dny | i used 2 windows under windowsxp |
| 19:55.59 | vardhman | dny: I read it almost 2 hrs ago when working for my project that the windows are sent via a mechanism which has no way to gaurentee which part of dual view to use |
| 19:56.01 | dny | 2 screens |
| 19:56.14 | dny | and it's hard to work with 2 screens now :( |
| 19:56.40 | vardhman | dny: its kinda limitation of X.org |
| 19:56.53 | vardhman | not Nvidia probably |
| 19:56.59 | lauri | I have two desktops (I like it that way) |
| 19:57.07 | dny | lauri, what do you mean? |
| 19:57.11 | lauri | you can drag and drop files from one to hte other |
| 19:57.11 | vardhman | that is atleast great to work at |
| 19:57.13 | lauri | but not windows |
| 19:57.18 | dny | 2 desktops or 1 desktop on 2 screens? |
| 19:57.20 | lauri | (and i like it that way) |
| 19:57.28 | lauri | two desktops, one on each screen |
| 19:57.49 | lauri | two entirely independent displays (in X terms, I have :0.0 and :0.1) |
| 19:58.00 | lauri | it doesn't suit everyone, but for me it's a much nicer way to work |
| 19:58.22 | dny | i have 2 fuckin' expensive 19'' tft screens and they are not worth now |
| 19:58.34 | dny | lauri, in your system |
| 19:58.50 | dny | is it possible to lay a window over the border, that it is on both screens at the same time? |
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| 19:59.21 | raphael | dny, I have seen a friend of mine running KDE on two screens, it didn't look like there was any trouble |
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| 19:59.54 | raphael | that's with an ATI graphics card (in a laptop actually) using the external screen as the second desktop |
| 20:00.08 | dny | lauri: do you use a nvidia card? |
| 20:00.21 | forethig | how can I set X options like dpi, using kdm as login manager? |
| 20:00.35 | dny | how can i configure two different screens with xorg? is that possible? and kde supports that? |
| 20:01.24 | raphael | dny, I don't know what setup he uses, but whatever he had configured, it looked ok to me |
| 20:01.34 | dny | ok thx |
| 20:01.46 | dny | but where's lauri, perhaps i can get more infos... |
| 20:01.47 | raphael | dny, maybe try to get an X11 related channel |
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| 20:02.07 | raphael | lauri is certainly quite busy (almost always) |
| 20:02.31 | raphael | it's as far as I know more a setup in the X configuration, not really in KDE |
| 20:03.03 | dny | and kde automatically supports that? |
| 20:03.12 | dny | it's worth a try |
| 20:03.41 | forethig | where |
| 20:03.49 | raphael | dny, I think so, yes |
| 20:04.01 | aseigo | yes, that's an X thing, and yes, KDE automagically supports it when available |
| 20:04.08 | raphael | but I don't know any details, I just know that it can be done |
| 20:04.13 | aseigo | look for "xinerama" on the net (e.g. by google) |
| 20:04.14 | dny | is it possible with nvidia graphic cards? |
| 20:04.24 | aseigo | dny: what OS are you using? |
| 20:04.29 | dny | gentoo |
| 20:04.37 | aseigo | dny: certainly. are you using the closed source nv driver? |
| 20:04.52 | aseigo | there's a gentoo HOWTO for xinerama in the docs |
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| 20:06.12 | aseigo | raphael: g'nite =) |
| 20:08.14 | dny | yes i use the closed source drivers i think |
| 20:08.20 | dny | i will try it out tomorrow |
| 20:08.24 | dny | thx for the help |
| 20:08.26 | dny | bye |
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| 20:12.53 | lauri | sorry, was sidetracked by children |
| 20:13.19 | Alethes | I'm not msging you, lauri |
| 20:13.26 | Alethes | so don't blame your sidetrack on me |
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| 20:13.39 | lauri | heh, hey Alethes |
| 20:13.47 | Alethes | howdy |
| 20:15.17 | Alethes | when's kde 3.5.x gonna be out? |
| 20:15.21 | Alethes | winterish? |
| 20:17.15 | lauri | good question |
| 20:19.36 | hydrogen | sometime after they freeze the tree |
| 20:19.41 | hydrogen | to be specific |
| 20:22.08 | forethig | when I change font sizes there is an enormous difference in size between font points 11 and 12 for all fonts. do I have X set up incorrectly perhaps? |
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| 20:28.25 | Minuo | What technology does kioslaves use to detect when storage devices (such as USB HDs) are plugged in and show them in kioslaves? |
| 20:31.29 | derelm | guess thats hal's job? |
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| 20:37.07 | gmg9 | anyone plz help ?? |
| 20:38.15 | forethig | in 3.4 kdm doesn't use Xservers any more right? so where to set X dpi (without changing xorg.conf)? |
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| 20:52.33 | User_X | impossible to build kdegames from branch |
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| 21:13.14 | Paleo | someone havean Audigy 2 sound card ? |
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| 21:13.59 | hydrogen | what about it |
| 21:14.41 | Paleo | well, the MUTE button of kmix doesnt have any effects, since the MASTER channel doesnt have one |
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| 21:15.37 | JohnFlux | Hey all! |
| 21:16.10 | JohnFlux | I'm thinking of duplicating http://sysinternals.com/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.html for kde. What do you kde users think? |
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| 21:20.59 | tbscope | JohnFlux, that would be very interesting |
| 21:21.47 | JohnFlux | tbscope: i'm not sure if there's a good graph plotter like that for kde though |
| 21:22.00 | JohnFlux | tbscope: for the cpu usage |
| 21:22.02 | tbscope | JohnFlux, create one :) |
| 21:22.14 | JohnFlux | yeah |
| 21:22.30 | tbscope | It's not that hard to create though |
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| 21:28.01 | zz | hello |
| 21:28.32 | zz | how do i make multiple logins on kde available? |
| 21:28.54 | zz | from k menu there should be a switch user but i don't see it |
| 21:29.15 | tbscope | zz, which kde version are you using ? |
| 21:29.54 | zz | 3.3.2 |
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| 21:31.26 | zz | any ideas? |
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| 21:32.27 | zz | canllaith~ u sleeping? |
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| 21:34.52 | JohnFlux | zz: maybe use 3.4 |
| 21:35.10 | zz | im on sarge not sid |
| 21:35.30 | zz | but that was a function of older versions too |
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| 22:27.22 | batz | jj |
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| 22:33.10 | batz | jj |
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| 22:33.42 | PhilOut | stop that |
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| 22:35.05 | batz | why |
| 22:35.42 | PhilOut | if you can't work that out yourself, come back when you've thought about it |
| 22:35.58 | Venson | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:37.20 | jmspeex | My kde panel just crashed. Any way to restart it without doing a logout/login? |
| 22:37.32 | PhilOut | lt+F2 -> kicker |
| 22:37.36 | PhilOut | Alt+F2, I mean |
| 22:39.43 | jmspeex | PhilOut: thanks a lot! |
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| 23:30.10 | chase | hay, anyone know if you can change the list of email headers displayed by Kmail? |
| 23:30.18 | chase | i dont want them all or the email source |
| 23:30.57 | chase | i just want to add a custom header which is being set by my server to the list of headers shown in a standard preview |
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| 23:49.59 | Apache2 | [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kate-3.4.1) |
| 23:50.04 | Apache2 | how can this be true |
| 23:50.08 | Apache2 | and what should I do about it |
| 23:50.11 | Apache2 | :) |
| 23:52.33 | grepper | ask in #gentoo ? |
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| 23:53.20 | SadEagle | grepper: I think the first step would be "learn to wait for an answer" :-) |
| 23:53.29 | Apache2 | anyone know? |
| 23:53.34 | Apache2 | I parted there for a second |
| 23:53.36 | Apache2 | sorry lol |
| 23:53.37 | Apache2 | :P |
| 23:53.46 | grepper | heh |
| 23:54.00 | Apache2 | how could kdebase |
| 23:54.04 | grepper | <grepper> ask in #gentoo ? |
| 23:54.07 | Apache2 | be blocking kate? |
| 23:54.27 | Apache2 | they don't know, this is a kde issue heheh |
| 23:54.33 | grepper | looks like a split ebuild vs monolithic ebuild issue, or whatever terms they use |
| 23:54.41 | Apache2 | could be |
| 23:54.50 | Apache2 | metabuild vs whatever build |
| 23:54.53 | grepper | I'm pretty sure it is |
| 23:56.00 | Apache2 | crapola |
| 23:56.01 | Apache2 | heh |
| 23:56.03 | Apache2 | :D |
| 23:56.13 | Apache2 | I love my kate and need to rebuild her |
| 23:56.14 | Apache2 | heheh |
| 23:56.42 | grepper | well, you use gentoo so you like compiling - now you have even more to compile :) |
| 23:57.10 | Apache2 | thats alright on my amd64 machine it'll all be good in an hour or two, just what I need for dinner |
| 23:57.13 | Apache2 | :0 |
| 23:57.13 | zubov | mmmm, rebuilding a woman... |
| 23:57.30 | zubov | i mean... |
| 23:58.17 | Apache2 | heheh |
| 23:58.40 | Apache2 | wish she was my woman |
| 23:58.43 | Apache2 | kate doesn't talk back |
| 23:59.15 | Apache2 | lol |
| 23:59.45 | canllaith | So funny. |
