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00:01.07Otherisnt there an app to edit bin files?
00:01.52VensonOther: bin2iso?
00:02.07VensonOther: i'm assuming the bin is a cd image...
00:02.14Otheryes
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00:18.43testifyI've been having some problems with KDE when I "End Session". The login dialog comes up, and then 2 seconds later the entire system freezes, no mouse movement, no changing consoles, no soft reboot and the mouse pointer is replaced with a static looking square box. Anyone know what might be up?
00:18.58rr72grepper~ any recomendations for stocks quote ticker?
00:19.36Blissextestify: looks like a kernel bug of some sort...
00:23.27testifyhow much of a difference is there between the normal login and the login that appears after you "End Session"?
00:24.28testifybecause when I normally startup it's fine, the problem occurs when I try to end the session after previously being logged in
00:25.38rr72hm
00:25.41canllaithUp until you log in no difference at all
00:26.02rr72canllaith~ do u know of a stock ticker applet?
00:26.08canllaithNope.
00:27.12rr72rnt u developer?
00:27.14testifyWell I guess I'll wait until 2.6.12 becomes unmasked for gentoo...hopefully that will fix it
00:27.26aseigohahah...
00:27.30canllaithThat doesn't mean I write a stock ticker applet.
00:27.47canllaithtestify: I would run memtest over your computer
00:27.54canllaithHard, do the extended tests
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00:27.57aseigocanllaith: you mean you don't about every single kde package ever created somewhere in the world? ;)
00:28.04canllaithI'd also log your cpu temp to a file, and notice what the last one was when you locked up.
00:28.08ObsidianXhey i was wondering where the little spinny-icon for konqueror is held?
00:28.18canllaithaseigo: nah really I do, I'm just lying about it to annoy everyone
00:28.30canllaithObsidianX: it's in the crystal icon theme under 22x22/actions I believe
00:28.35ObsidianXah thanks
00:29.20ObsidianXi installed a new theme but its got the linspire logo spinning around so i want to change it :P
00:29.33canllaithIt's definitely in the crystal icon set under actions, which exactly size though I'm not 100% sure
00:29.38canllaitheh, clear e. I'm using that one too
00:29.45ObsidianXheheh
00:29.59Aletheskde.png
00:30.09ObsidianXAlethes: thanks ;D
00:30.12canllaithYep
00:30.17canllaith/home/dessa/.kde/share/icons/clear-e/22x22/actions/kde.png
00:30.22ObsidianXwow, so thats how its setup....
00:30.24canllaithand Alethes made a really really nice nuvola spinner you might be interested in
00:30.24Alethesit's a string of images
00:30.28canllaithto replace the linspire one
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00:30.36ObsidianXgot a link?
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00:30.39ObsidianXi've got nuvola too
00:30.41Aletheshang on
00:30.55Aletheshttp://www.alethes.net/kde.png
00:30.57ObsidianXnuvola is really nice ;)
00:31.17AlethesI like nuvola so much I wonder if I'll ever get around to finishing bluecurve heh
00:31.34ObsidianXheheh
00:32.04ObsidianXAlethes: did you make nuvola?
00:32.08Aletheshell no
00:32.11ObsidianXheh
00:32.13ObsidianXoh :P
00:32.19AlethesI'm a hack at best
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00:32.56Alethesif I had Illustrator, I'd be able to make a nice bluecurve theme, 'cause the originals are all ai files
00:33.06ObsidianXaha,
00:33.10Alethesas it is, I end up editing pngs, which sucks
00:33.29ObsidianXwhy not get illustrator?
00:33.53ObsidianXand thanks for the new kde.png ;D
00:33.59Alethes'cause it's not available for freebsd?
00:34.01Alethes:P
00:34.05ObsidianXah... bsd
00:34.21dvsdudeTheres a great image manipulator called gimp guys
00:34.28ObsidianXdvsdude: heheh
00:34.31Alethesyeah, but it doesn't open .ai files ;P
00:34.32ObsidianXwasn't sure if it could do ai
00:34.43ObsidianXAlethes: searched for a plugin/
00:34.58Alethesnope
00:35.18dvsdudebugger :-)
00:35.32Alethesbtw, I replaced all the blue folders in nuvola with yellow ones
00:35.37Alethesto make it more color neutral
00:36.13ObsidianXheheh
00:36.28ObsidianXim loving clear's folder icons
00:36.35ObsidianXi love the aqua look
00:37.16ObsidianXi've got abstractPC for my firefox theme which is very close to OSX-look
00:37.36dvsdudecheck out the icons at http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/icons.xml I've replaced all my deskto pwith these running kde
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00:40.02Aletheshttp://www.alethes.net/nuvolastuff.png
00:40.42ObsidianXwewt, gentoo
00:40.43ObsidianX:P
00:41.23ObsidianXthat theme is nice but i dont care for the bubbles on the kicker
00:41.27ObsidianXhard to see the icon inside
00:41.36Alethesdvsdude: those are nice
00:42.06ObsidianXAlethes: what irc app are you using?
00:42.13Aletheskonversation
00:42.22ObsidianXah
00:42.23Alethesall my app titles are task-based
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00:42.37dvsdudecheers i dont mind them
00:42.44dvsdudesomething a bit diff
00:43.03ObsidianXhttp://pengu.in/obsidianx/latest.jpg
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00:44.41ObsidianXhaha
00:44.44ObsidianXsorry :P
00:44.58ObsidianXwant a smaller one?
00:45.05occyWhere can I edit keyboard short cuts.  I have went into control panel and unbound F1 from Help.  I have always (even in days of old when I used to use KDE all the time) had F1 bound to a term.  I used to do this with kmenuedit.  How is it done now?
00:45.38ObsidianXkcontrol
00:45.48ObsidianXwait
00:45.51ObsidianXi think its the same
00:46.03ObsidianXyeah
00:46.10ObsidianXkmenuedit: select the icon you want
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00:46.19occyahh ok.  Didn't see that.
00:46.23ObsidianXand then at the bottom on the right: Current Shortcut Key
00:46.23occytx ObsidianX
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00:46.26ObsidianXsure
00:47.20occywhat is the kde terminal again?  sorry, it's been a while. ;)
00:47.28rr72konsole?
00:47.32occyyah
00:47.34occythat's right.
00:47.35occysorry.
00:47.53rr72who uses gkrell?
00:48.03Alethesme
00:48.13rr72do u have the stock plugin?
00:48.21Alethesnah
00:48.25rr72darn
00:48.27sparr_I turned on Active Desktop Borders, now when I change desktops by moving my mouse to the edge the mouse is somewhere in the middle of the screen on the new desktop instead of on the edge where (imho) it should be.  Is this normal?
00:48.40rr72i can't get it to work
00:48.41ObsidianXsparr_: probably :P
00:48.42occydon't see konsole in the list of apps for some reason.  I see gnome-terminal. :)
00:48.51ObsidianXoccy: ALT+F2
00:48.52ObsidianXtype konsole
00:48.52ObsidianX:P
00:49.16occyoh, there it is.
00:49.42sparr_ObsidianX: is it fixable?
00:50.06ObsidianXno idea
00:50.08ObsidianXi dont use that feature
00:50.28sparr_are there hotkeys to switch desktops?
00:50.32sparr_im switching from icewm
00:50.57ObsidianXCTRL+TAB
00:51.18Alethesyou can assign individual shortcuts to each desktop
00:51.36ObsidianXctl+tab is a general desktop switch like alt+tab for windows
00:51.36AlethesI use win-1, win-2, win-3, win-4
00:53.16ObsidianXwoo, slideshow desktop wallpaper :P
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00:55.14amorphixwhat usually goes in the "boot =" in lilo?
00:56.25dvsdudeboot = /dev/xxx
00:56.33amorphixcool thanks
00:56.53dvsdudeamorphix: gentoo doc is good even if not using gentoo
00:57.07dvsdudegoogle is ur friend
00:57.55sparr_this seems to be a bug in kde
00:57.59sparr_it persists when i change resolutions
00:58.13sparr_it always jumps in about 1/5th of the screen size from the edge
00:58.42ObsidianXit probably does that on purpose to make sure you dont move right back on accident
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00:59.35amorphix:)
00:59.50sparr_i WANT to move right back
00:59.53sparr_i want seamless edges
00:59.56sparr_like one huge desktop
00:59.58ObsidianXsparr_: i can't even find where to turn that on
01:00.05ObsidianXim using 3.4.1
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01:00.14sparr_control center
01:00.16sparr_window behavior
01:00.17sparr_advanced
01:00.20ObsidianXah
01:00.22amorphixdvsdude: if Im booting from a floppy and have no hdd, should i have /dev/fd0 in boot= or ramdisk?
01:00.24ObsidianXi was looking in desktops
01:01.02ObsidianXsparr_: does the same to me
01:01.13dvsdudeamorphix: not 100% but i would assume /dev/fd0 as thats is generally the floppy
01:01.20amorphixokay
01:01.30amorphixi love linux but linux doesnt love me it seems
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01:02.08dvsdudeamorphix: check this out http://home.san.rr.com/johninsd/pub/linux/lilo/sample/lilo.sample.conf
01:02.17ObsidianXamorphix: you just need to sweet-talk it
01:02.21dvsdudefound thru google soz cant be more help
01:02.28ObsidianXtake it out, let it get to know yuo
01:02.29amorphixthanks guys
01:02.29ObsidianX:P
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01:03.01ObsidianXman, translucency/shadows dont work at all
01:03.06ObsidianXunless its only on new windows
01:03.31mobtektry restarting kde
01:03.42ObsidianXeh, i'll pass :P
01:03.46ObsidianXit said it was unstable
01:04.28dvsdudechanges made thru kontrl panel affect apps when open next time no need for restart
01:04.52dvsdudethis aint microcrap that needs reboot all the time lol
01:05.04ObsidianXheheh
01:05.13ObsidianXyou've install solitaire, please restart.
01:05.34ObsidianXhonestly, what could games do that require system plugs
01:05.51ObsidianXwhen a game asks me to restart i get suspicious
01:05.52amorphixanyone any ideas what could be wrong with my boot disk...lilo starts, gets the end of the ..... and then it flashes up BIOS data successfully loaded..and then it reboots again!
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01:06.16ObsidianXamorphix: building your own bootdisk?
01:07.05amorphixyeah
01:07.14ObsidianXfun
01:07.30mobtekdvsdude: what reboot? restarting kde is not a reboot
01:07.45amorphixheh, yeah been at it all night and tried several boot images from boot disk creators
01:07.59dvsdudeamorphix: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/
01:08.13dvsdudemobtek: never said is was
01:08.19rr72so there isnt a kde ticker?
01:08.22amorphixbeen all thru that, tried that first and gave up doing the manual method
01:08.27dvsdudei was just saing you dont need to reboot
01:08.28Tm_Trr72: what?
01:08.32amorphixtoo complicated and too many possibilities for error
01:08.39mobtekkekeke
01:08.47rr72im looking for a ticker of stock quotes
01:08.53Tm_Tah
01:09.02dvsdudemobtek: you can just ctrl alt backspace to restart kde
01:09.06dvsdudederrrr
01:09.15rr72x server
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01:09.50ObsidianXyeah, thats all of x
01:09.59ObsidianXand i dont like to restart KDE when im doing stuff :P
01:10.27ObsidianXwho here uses amarok?
01:10.29dvsdudewhat ever
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01:14.16justinleihello
01:14.21justinleievery one
01:14.27Dhraakelliangazebo
01:15.03mobtekverandah
01:15.13ObsidianXDhraakellian: macadamia
01:15.14Dhraakellianbelvedere
01:15.34ObsidianXspatula
01:15.40Dhraakellianfoible
01:15.48ObsidianXbulbous buffant
01:15.59Dhraakellianblubber!
01:16.02ObsidianXWOO!
01:16.08ObsidianXi see you've heard it too...
01:16.14ObsidianXrr72: developers of what lang
01:16.24rr72kde
01:16.26Dhraakellianwell, I'm not waiting for a bus
01:16.30rr72i want to chat
01:16.34ObsidianXkde is its own lang? :P
01:16.37rr72canllaith~ u busy?
01:16.51DhraakellianI'm waiting for the OS/2 install stuff to boot up so that I can finish installing
01:16.58ObsidianXos/2?
01:17.01ObsidianXo_O
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01:17.44callipygouswho here has konqueror :P
01:17.46ObsidianXrr72: im a php dev, if that counts
01:17.49Dhraakellianyep
01:17.53callipygousheh
01:17.56ObsidianXcallipygous: dude.... this is #kde :P
01:18.00rr72i would rather talk to a kde develpor
01:18.04Dhraakelliancanllaith thinks I'm a youngun because of this
01:18.13rr72i was talking to one erlier
01:18.15ObsidianXits like saying "who here has explorer?" to a windows room :P
01:18.31callipygousheh, I know.  I'm wondering why this doesn't render properly in Konqueror http://sanguine.pixelalmighty.com/callipygous/index.html
01:18.37callipygousI don't have kde here to test it tho :S
01:18.44ObsidianXkonq doesn't do www too well imo
01:18.52callipygousso I can't tell what the issue is
01:18.59dvsdudefirefox rules the web
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01:19.18callipygouskonqueror is faster on older boxes
01:19.54ObsidianXoooooooooh im loving that 3d gentoo G and the apple
01:20.07callipygouscool
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01:20.39dvsdudelynx is even quiker lol
01:20.39callipygousthe motorbike needs work ;P
01:20.44ObsidianXdvsdude: heheh
01:21.17ObsidianXcallipygous: it looks like glass/jello
01:21.18ObsidianX:P
01:21.35callipygousglass, yeah, but jello? :S
01:21.45ObsidianXheheheh
01:21.48ObsidianXjust my twisted mind
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01:21.53ObsidianXwhat'd you use to make that?
01:22.24callipygousblender
01:22.29ObsidianXaha,
01:22.31callipygousit says on the page!
01:22.38ObsidianXdont' really like blender, i prefer 3dsmax
01:22.42ObsidianXbut there is no linux 3dsmax :\
01:22.48ObsidianXi didn't read the page :>
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01:23.02bimbohow can I compile kdenetwork without kopete?
01:23.13callipygousI liked blender more
01:23.57radi0headObsidianX; There is Maya for linux.
01:24.03ObsidianXtrue
01:24.22ObsidianXbimbo: what Distro are you using
01:24.25radi0headImho, maya > 3dsmax
01:24.38ObsidianXmost people dont care for 3dsmax... but i love its UI
01:24.47callipygousyou like its ui?
01:24.52ObsidianXvery much so
01:25.05callipygoushmm, I hated the UI, loved blender's tho, just took a week to get used to and I was cruising
01:25.26bimboObsidianX: archlinux, but I'll compile this from source, using arch compiling system
01:25.26ObsidianXi started with 3dsmax so i guess thats why...
01:25.42rr72any ppl who with kde here?
01:25.56radi0headObsidianX; I guess you also started with windoze, but you're now running linux :)
01:25.58Dhraakellianwho what with KDE?
01:26.03ObsidianXradi0head: :P
01:26.07ObsidianXDhraakellian: devs
01:26.24Dhraakellianthere is a -devel chan
01:26.33callipygoushmm
01:26.41callipygousoh, did you check out my page in konqueror?
01:26.45Dhraakellianand some of the devs do hang out in here
01:26.48rr72its more kde than kde-devel
01:26.54rr72can does
01:27.03ObsidianXradi0head: so i guess i can't exactly use 3dsmax anymore
01:27.16radi0headObsidianX; Maybe it runs with wine?
01:27.22ObsidianXi doubt it
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01:27.35ObsidianXand i wouldn't want to run it in wine, more like Cedega
01:27.37ObsidianXbut eh,
01:27.49ObsidianXi've tried running it off my windoze partition but it didn't work
01:28.02radi0headhttp://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=343
01:28.12callipygousHey, ObsidianX did you try my page with konqeror?
01:28.30bimboso anyone know how to compile kdenetwork without kopete?
01:28.34radi0headObsidianX; Which version you want to run?
01:28.36ObsidianXcallipygous: yeha the top menu went vertical instead of horizontal
01:28.38ObsidianXradi0head: 6
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01:29.01callipygoustotally vertical? or just overlapped once?
01:29.08callipygouscus I noticed that on another computer :S
01:29.21ObsidianXit all goes vertical
01:29.25ObsidianXover the other text
01:29.30callipygousno idea what causes it, only happens in konq, renders fine in safari, which is also khtml
01:29.37callipygousgah
01:29.45ObsidianXi just wouldn't use konq for web browsing ;)
01:29.54ObsidianXkonq is great for everything else it does
01:29.59Dhraakellianheh
01:30.05ObsidianXand i thought safari was PPC?
01:30.05DhraakellianI use konqi for web browsing
01:30.12Dhraakellianand krusader for file management
01:30.16callipygouskde needs to get rid of those ------ borders around files
01:30.23callipygousand icons, and stuff
01:30.35mobtekborders?
01:30.36rr72ok
01:30.54ObsidianXcallipygous: im seeing no borders
01:30.57Dhraakelliansafari's khtml is slightly different from konqi's khtml
01:31.03callipygousyeah, no like when you click an icon or something
01:31.10callipygousit highlights it with a ----
01:31.19callipygousslightly, yeh
01:31.23mobtekcallipygous: not here :)
01:31.29ObsidianXsame
01:31.36mobtekheh
01:31.46callipygouslike on your desktop
01:31.54callipygousmaybe they got rid of that :)
01:32.06mobtekwe not with 3.4.1 :)
01:32.08ObsidianXpossibly
01:32.10mobtekwell even
01:32.17ObsidianXim on 3.4.1
01:32.24mobtekheh what distro?
01:32.28ObsidianXoh wait, that thing?
01:32.30ObsidianXgentoo
01:32.34mobtekhaha same here
01:32.40ObsidianX*high five*
01:33.04mobtekhehe
01:33.45ObsidianXhttp://pengu.in/obsidianx/latest.jpg
01:34.14ObsidianXi heart gentoo
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01:35.10mobtekheh
01:36.51callipygousObsidianX: can you check my website in konqueor again? I changed something that might help
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01:39.32callipygousilldidiooo
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01:43.33ObsidianXcallipygous: fixed it ;)
01:45.02callipygouscool :) thanks
01:45.14ObsidianXnice looking site
01:45.41ObsidianXif i may just suggest... dont make the background 'float' like that, it really slows down the browser
01:45.53callipygousit does? okay, thanks
01:46.02callipygousprobably don't notice it on my fast computer
01:48.11callipygousdoes that work better for you ObsidianX ?
01:48.13ObsidianXi've got a fast comp too, but it lags on full screen
01:48.32ObsidianXnice ;)
01:48.39callipygousyeah, video card doesn't have good drivers?
01:48.47callipygousgot an ati :P ?
01:48.53ObsidianXnvidia fx 5200
01:49.02callipygousthat should be more than good
01:49.18ObsidianXdunno, just really slows down in firefox on scrolling
01:49.25callipygousyeah
01:50.15rr72u guys suck
01:50.26callipygousI suck penis?
01:50.29callipygousyou said penis
01:50.39rr72wtf
01:50.46rr72i put it in the wrong feild
01:50.57rr72i had to go to devel page to get actual help
01:50.58callipygousheh
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01:51.30rr72well u have Phallophobia
01:51.43callipygousI DO?
01:52.02rr72yes u do
01:53.33callipygousNO
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01:53.43rr72haha
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02:01.39ObsidianXphallophobia?
02:01.56abydosph33r t3h p3n15!
02:02.38ObsidianXaha :P
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02:07.56Dhraakellianhow puerile and sophomoric
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02:08.34x82dhow can i check which video driver i'm useing
02:09.32ObsidianXlook at /etc/X11/xorg.conf (for xorg) or /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (for XFree)
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02:20.20rr72l8r all
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02:29.40ObsidianXis there any way to sort files in Konq by just their name
02:29.45ObsidianXso i can have folders mixing with files
02:29.49ObsidianXit would make what im doing a ton easier
02:34.25Dhraakellianhmm... I thought you could do it in krusader, but I don't see the option right off
02:34.26grepperinfolist view
02:35.39ObsidianXgrepper: wonderful ;D
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02:39.43rr72where do i get qmake?
02:40.02Dhraakellianshould come with qt, afaik
02:40.07Dhraakellianqt-devel?
02:40.15rr72ill look in yast
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02:42.24rr72damn i need xorg
02:44.51rr72i can't find it
02:44.55rr72am i sol?
02:46.02jql?
02:46.36jqlif you can't find xorg, you're pretty sol. :(
02:46.45rr72an rpm
02:47.17rr72i don't need qtstalker on mu SuSE
02:47.21rr72debian is fine
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02:59.04ObsidianXDhraakellian: did you figure out how to do it in krusader?
02:59.09ObsidianXkonq keeps on crashing
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03:03.42Octanecan someone recommend a good torrent client
03:03.45Octanesans azureus :)
03:04.00mobtekazureus
03:04.01mobtek;p
03:04.05Octane"sans azureus" :)
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03:04.50ObsidianXsans?
03:05.10Octanemeans not including
03:05.22ObsidianXah
03:05.29ObsidianXwhat language
03:06.14Octanenot english but used in english language
03:06.20Octaneor perhaps its old school english
03:06.22mobtekhehe but I was stirring :)
03:06.34ObsidianXah
03:06.41mobtekit was sans sans azureus :P
03:07.17Octaneahh
03:07.19Octanefrom old french
03:07.20ObsidianXOctane: what dont you like about az?
03:07.27Octanesans   Audio pronunciation of "sans"  P   Pronunciation Key  (snz, sä)
03:07.27Octane<PROTECTED>
03:07.27OctaneWithout.
03:07.36Octane[Middle English, from Old French, blend of Latin sine, without, and absenti, in the absence of, ablative of absentia, absence from absns, absent- present participle of abesse, to be away. See absent.]
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03:07.59OctaneObsidianX: i love azureus, but i get those annoying "likely network disconnect" errors" even though im using the latest JRE
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03:09.34mobtekOctane: yuppers same here
03:09.41ObsidianXi dont get that
03:09.45mobtekhence why I'm still using the 2.2.0 version or something
03:10.00The_bellmanjust switched from gnome (ubuntu) to kde. kde kicks the pants of gnome and then some
03:10.10Octanemobtek: ahh makes sense
03:10.21mobtek2.2.0.2
03:10.23OctaneThe_bellman: i did the SAME exact thing when i switched man
03:10.31OctaneThe_bellman: came in here and said something to that effect
03:10.35mobtekThe_bellman: kekeke same here when I switched
03:10.43ObsidianXheh, i've always used KDE
03:10.43ObsidianX:P
03:10.54Octaneamd64
03:10.57mobtek2.2.2 rocked :P
03:11.02Octanemobtek: i cant believe i get those friggin errors
03:11.06ObsidianXKubuntu is nice, i installed it on my brother's computer :P
03:11.08Octanetheyre so annoying
03:11.30mobtekOctane: coding for a specific jre is bad mkay :)
03:11.31Octanei just upgraded Azureus to 2.3.0.4 -- maybe itll fix things
03:11.58Octaneright now java is using 1,500,000 of vm
03:12.08Octaneso far so good no errors
03:12.15mobteknah I had the same network probs with 2.3.0.4
03:12.21Octanewow, 30 million downloads of azurues
03:12.28mobtekmethinks :)
03:12.31Octanemobtek: latest jre 1.5.0.4?
03:12.42mobtekahhh
03:12.47mobtekthat might be my prob
03:12.56Octanesee problem is that old azureus doesnt have the features to block certain trackers
03:13.02Octaneso thats a security vulunrability
03:13.03mobtek1.5.0.3
03:13.12Octanemobtek: upgrade 4 came out the other day
03:13.19mobtekcool download time
03:13.27Octaneyou in amd64?
03:13.40mobteknope ia32
03:20.20Octanemobtek: so far no errors :)
03:20.23Octaneand its been 10 minutes :)
03:22.02mobtekhehe
03:22.09The_bellmanwhat i cant seem to find is a nice little button for the panel to switch between different keyboard layouts, which is rather important to me since i have to write in spanish as well as english
03:22.47The_bellman*looks behind sofa*
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03:22.54The_bellmannope not there either
03:22.59mobtekno idea, I only write in english :)
03:23.17Octanespanish and english have the same characters :)
03:23.25Octanesooo my conclusion is that you dont need that
03:23.29Octane:)
03:24.30Alethespreferences/regional & accessibility/keyboard layout
03:24.51The_bellmanits for the accents mainly
03:24.54The_bellmanthanks
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03:37.36The_bellman*does a little dance of happieness with kde*
03:38.41icyfire0573Access Keys for Konqueror in 3.4 is AWESOME
03:38.56mobtekhehe The_bellman
03:39.46The_bellmanwhat are access keys?
03:40.04icyfire0573you press control, and all of a sudden you have a letter or number for every link on the webpage
03:40.29The_bellmanEGADS
03:40.40The_bellmanawesome *scampers off to have a go*
03:40.45icyfire0573found it by accident, so cool though
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03:43.44Dhraakellianhmm?
03:44.41icyfire0573access keys, its the wave of now
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03:46.49kendrickicyfire0573: only on some pages
03:46.51kendrick:(
03:46.59kendricklike, Google front page appears to have no access keys
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03:47.23kendrickbut wikipedia does
03:47.35icyfire0573it has them all over google.com for me, i just think that some of them can specify what they want the links to be
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03:47.43FuricUh oh.
03:48.23eikelmthey group\
03:48.39FuricDoes the embedded advanced text editor kpart store backups somewhere other than the ones that end in ~ kept in the same directory as the file you're editing?
03:49.06FuricOh wait, no never mind.
03:49.10kendrickicyfire0573: well, i was looking at the front page only, so far
03:49.18FuricPhew, the function had a different name :)
03:50.02eikelmthow can I make usb headset work and coexist with my onboard soundcard , distro mdk10.1
03:50.18eikelmtI am stucked
03:50.24Furiceikelmt: maybe you should ask the mandrake people.
03:50.42eikelmti am trying but no answer so far
03:50.48FuricOh.
03:50.53icyfire0573just a quick question, but dosen't hte act of plugging in the usb headset ALWAYS cause the sound to be routed through it?
03:51.14eikelmtlinux detects usb headset , kmix also but the mic doesnt work
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04:05.37enzhow can I fetch http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/areas/cvs-digest/enzyme/ ?
04:05.45enzis there a tarball somewhere?
04:06.26icyfire0573svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/www/areas/cvs-digest/enzyme/
04:06.32enzdont have svn
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04:07.17enzftp.kde.org?
04:07.25icyfire0573dunno, maybe
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04:08.08enzcan u send me a tarball :P
04:08.14icyfire0573alread working on it
04:08.18icyfire0573just gotta tar it up
04:08.40enzthxxxx
04:09.17icyfire0573http://icyfire.servebeer.com/media/enzyme.tar.bz2
04:09.37enz500kb
04:09.38enzok
04:09.48enzgot it
04:09.52icyfire0573alright
04:10.13enzty very much
04:10.17icyfire0573no problem
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04:14.04enzDerek said: Look at enzyme_diffparts.php, enzyme_diff.php particularly. The information comes from svn diff, which is handled by enzyme_query.php.
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04:22.05enzanyway thx
04:22.06enzcua
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04:53.44znoGhi all, does anyone know how to expand folders in KMail?
04:53.57znoGie. it loaded the base structure, I want to go deeper in the hierarchy (sp?)
04:54.46Dhraakellianclick on the little + by the folder?
04:54.56znoGthere is no +
04:55.02znoGi JUST added the account so it's only new
04:55.02Dhraakellian(or little triangle, depending on the style)
04:55.05Dhraakellianah
04:55.08znoGand it loaded the base folders only
04:55.12znoGon the imap server
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04:55.25Dhraakellianah
04:55.30DhraakellianI know nothing about imap
04:55.36alexI'm using Gnome on FreeBSD, but Linux QT/KDE apps dont get the theme I set using "qtconfig", just the color scheme and fonts, but not the pixmaps in the widgets
04:55.42znoGahh did it
04:55.50znoGDhraakellian: had to "show hidden folders" in the config
04:55.51alexnative QT apps get themed correctly, but not Linux QT apps
04:56.50alexi've got no experience with KDE/QT theming issues. Does KDE uses any library to draw pixmaps in the widgets?
04:56.55josuewho know about snes emulator?
04:57.02DhraakellianQt?
04:57.08alexGTK uses libpixmap
04:57.35alexQT or KDE, I don't know the difference :(
04:57.57znoGhrm, hrm, im starting to like KMail
04:57.59DhraakellianKDE apps use the Qt toolkit for their gui widgets
04:58.12alexskype is the app that is misheaving
04:58.14DhraakellianQt, afaik, does all of the drawing
04:58.20Dhraakellianheh
04:58.38alexqt is compiled statically in that application (skype)
04:59.03Dhraakellianthen it probalby won't respond to style changes
04:59.26Dhraakellianfrom my understand
04:59.27Dhraakellianing
04:59.27josuesomebody know about snes emulator?
04:59.29alexand runs ok, but when I use qtconfig to change the theme, it just gets the color schemes and font styles, but not the pixmaps in the widgets
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05:01.40alexi had a similar problem with Linux RealPlayer (gtk app), but installing libpixmap for linux solved the issue
05:02.09alexbut i don't know what is the equivalent gtk libpixmap in KDE
05:02.15DhraakellianQt does the drawing itself, afaik
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05:03.19Dhraakellianmaybe asking in #qt might be more helpful
05:03.24DhraakellianI don't know
05:04.11alexwhat i have not done yet, is to install the kde-base rpm for linux. don't know if that solves the problem
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05:04.29alexDhraakellian, thanks for orienting me :)
05:04.48AdamKDE is telling me permission denied for /dev/dsp. That means you have to change the permissions on the /dev/dsp file right?
05:05.08icyfire0573Adam: it could be in use already
05:05.27AdamIt only does it for normal user accounts though
05:05.30Adamroot has no problems using it
05:05.32josueput: su
05:05.47josueand your password
05:06.04josuein the konsole
05:06.51icyfire0573he could do  ls -l /dev/dsp; groups $USER, to see what the owner and group of /dev/dsp is and if he is a part of it
05:08.58Adamroot owns it, but I am part of the audio group
05:09.17AdamI know chown but what is the correct syntax for change group? chgroup isn't working great
05:09.36icyfire0573chown user:group
05:11.21alexin freebsd, there is /etc/devfs.conf where you can set the devices permissions
05:11.31AdamThis is Gentoo
05:11.39alexperm speaker 0660
05:11.54alexis there a similar way to do so in linux?
05:11.58josuei want to play snes but i dont know
05:12.10Adambrb, think I may have fixed it
05:13.35icyfire0573josue: aptitude install zsnes
05:14.36josueit's better?
05:14.50josueok i try
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05:32.13marcusUHas anyone else noticed how had CNN's new website looks in Konqueror?
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05:39.55Dhraakellianno
05:39.57Dhraakelliangood or bad?
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05:40.10marcusUs/had/bad/
05:40.16znoGKMAIL question: does anyone know how to make KMail display the date from the email envelope, not the received date?
05:41.13marcusUDhraakellian: Look down to the "WORLD" section, and see how the ``Blair Talks...'' is right on top of some other text.
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05:43.33Dhraakellianhmm
05:43.48Dhraakellianlooks alright here
05:47.07marcusUIt looks awful here.
05:47.18marcusULet me isolate a section.
05:49.02marcusUDhraakellian: http://mylinuxisp.com/~mathpup/cnn.png
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06:34.11icyfire0573anyone else having problems getting quanta to compile on kde3.4 ?
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07:00.42jcapotehey guys
07:00.59jcapoteI was wondering if anyone could help me out with an ftp issue im having with konq
07:04.27icyfire0573go for it, ill see if i can help you
07:04.41jcapoteI just signed up with opensourcehost.com
07:04.54jcapotebut for some reason I can't write to my directory with konq using ftp
07:05.06jcapotebut the command line ftp works just fine
07:05.13icyfire0573is konq going in anonymously or w/ your username and password?
07:05.15jcapoteI have write access
07:05.20jcapotesame credentials
07:05.20jcapotefor both
07:05.31jcapoteI turned off pasv mode
07:06.11icyfire0573pasv mode shouldn't make too much of a difference,
07:06.18jcapoteyea I figured
07:06.20icyfire0573it seems that i can not help you with this issue :-(
07:06.26jcapotebut stranger things have worked heh
07:06.38jcapotethanks anywya
07:07.50jcapotehmm I can probably just use fish
07:08.07icyfire0573it'd even be more secure :-)
07:08.11jcapoteyea
07:08.14jcapote:)
07:09.01jcapoteyup it seems to work, not bad
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07:58.55pinotreehellooooo =)
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08:26.33Sirgadoplaying with kde control window decoration I got SIGSEGV. After that, kwin won't init (I get SIGSEGV), an d also kde control center window decoration section crashes too
08:27.06SirgadoI suppose that kwin conf files have been corrupted, so kwin crashes at startup
08:27.39Sirgadodoes anybody knows how to recreate conf file or files?
08:27.50Sirgadoor does anybody got some other idea?
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09:30.45HangDudei have a problem with kde 3.4 and xinerama / twinview...
09:31.07HangDudeit seems KDE (3.4.1 to be correct) doesn't note the borders of the screens..
09:31.16HangDudeso maximizing, maximized across the complete desktop..
09:33.19HangDudeI've googled, I've read the faw, and yes.. i've compiled kde with xinerama support
09:34.25lauriI don't use xinerama, I do use twinview, I don't like having one big desktop at all, so I can't help you
09:34.45lauriyou might wait around for aseigo, but time zones, he's not likely to be about for a while
09:35.57HangDudeI tried using xinerama without twinview...
09:36.06aseigoif it isn't seeing your individual screens and you are indeed using xinerama/twinview, then you almost certainly haven't compile qt w/xinerama
09:36.12HangDudebut that gave me 2 kicker and i couldn't drag windows from one to another
09:36.26aseigoheh. that's not xinerama
09:36.28aseigothat's dual head
09:36.29HangDudeis there any way i can double check ?
09:36.34HangDudehmm k
09:36.46HangDudeI mean, i have xinerama in my USE (gentoo)
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09:37.18HangDudeah.. couldn't be qt true
09:42.25aseigoif your qt does have xinerama support, then it may be you simply don't have the right X configuration ... IIRC nvidia's twinview has some funky options .. google around for twinview x11 configs and you'll find them =)
09:42.50HangDudeok thx
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09:56.17malvokde needs some less shiny icon sets. it scares away professionals
09:56.50oGALAXYokde-look.org is full of them
09:57.04oGALAXYoi personally use nuvola and they rock.
09:57.13oGALAXYoand hey, they are shiny and i am a professional.
09:57.15malvoi am looking through them
09:57.30malvoevaraldo does some nice icon sets, but they are too shiny for me
09:57.38oGALAXYothe other professionals cant be that professional if they value the whole KDE architecture on icons..
09:57.44oGALAXYothey are quite gay actually.
09:57.54oGALAXYonot the icons :)
09:58.14malvowell just speaking from a first impression
09:58.43malvothat was the only thing that was keeping me on gnome for a while
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09:59.30pinotreehey sredna =)
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10:01.44JReanyone knows how to get back to the original kde menu?
10:03.05JReokay seen it on the faq ;)
10:03.05srednaHi pinotree :)
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10:20.28srednaanisX: Try the translation tools in the tools menu ;)
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10:22.22anisXsredna: can u make the driver for me ?
10:22.39srednaLol, sorry
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11:30.52milancan anyone tell me what happened with akademy registration?
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11:34.34PhilRodwhat do you mean, what happened with it? You can register on conference2004.kde.org
11:34.40PhilRodI don't remember the closing date though
11:34.47milanconference 2005?
11:34.52milanor 2004
11:36.04milani looked on conference2005.kde.org but there is no registration link, and the one i saved earlier isn't working
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11:37.53PhilRodoops, 2005, of course - my mistake :-)
11:38.21PhilRodhttp://conference2005.kde.org/registration.php
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12:13.03atr42hi
12:14.29atr42I want to deactivate the K-menu / run command, is it possible?
12:14.54StevenRatr42: what do you mean exactly?
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12:16.26atr42I want to remove the menu : run command (and alt+f2)
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12:21.35physosJust for the record, Qt4 is out.
12:21.36StevenRatr42: you want to remove the whole kmenu?    to remove the altF2 thing, just make it not assigned in the keyboard shortcuts bit in kcontrol
12:22.28atr42StevenR : no just the ability to run commands
12:22.46StevenRahh, i don't know how to do that. only to remove the shortcut for it
12:24.12atr42where is the hot-keys alt+f2 I don't find it..
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12:24.21rmrfchikqt4 released
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12:28.53canllaithatr42: you might want to look into kiosk
12:29.36atr42canllaith : what's kiosk?
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12:31.05canllaithhttp://www.google.com/search?q=KDE+Kiosk&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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12:42.21atr42kiosk is wonderfull
12:42.23atr42thanks a lot
12:44.09illogic-alatr42: thow art welcome.
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12:46.35eltinoHi there
12:46.43atr42bye
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12:57.46linXhttp://www.codeproject.com/internet/httpget-post.asp <- is there any similar kde-app?
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13:38.24peppelorumIs it possible to compile Konsole just against QT and not KDE?
13:38.46pinotreepeppelorum: no
13:38.56peppelorumpinotree: darn
13:39.21peppelorumMy portable has a pretty limited HD and *term doesn't really do the job
13:39.37pinotreepeppelorum: install only kdelibs
13:40.10pinotreeand compile konsole
13:40.24peppelorumpinotree: that could be the way, thanks!
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13:40.39amorphixmorning guys
13:40.44pinotreepeppelorum: what distro are you using?
13:40.48amorphixhi..does anyone have any clues for me of why my boot disk just gives L 99 99 all across the screen
13:41.14peppelorumpinotree: Debian, so I'll just pull down the source with apt and change some flags/stuff
13:41.27pinotreepeppelorum: no!
13:41.47pinotreepeppelorum: just do apt-get install kdelibs4 konsole
13:42.28pinotreeit'll fetch the right dependencies for konsole
13:42.58peppelorumpinotree: Kdelibs4 wants to install ~20 other packages and use ~90MB HD, maybe I'll skip Konsole
13:43.21pinotreepeppelorum: those are the kdelibs
13:45.29peppelorumpinotree: Yeah, and sometimes that sucks, libs för jack, ogg, aspell, etc is needed..
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13:45.51pinotreepeppelorum: those are for arts, needed by kdelibs
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13:49.07StevenRamorphix: might try #"yourdistro"
13:51.17amorphixStevenR: i tried already, was hoping someone might be bright enough to suggest something here
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13:52.13StevenRamorphix: man lilo, it tells you the answer
13:52.27Sputn1ksomebody knows karamba, that shows procesor temperature?
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13:54.47amorphixStevenR bow thanks
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14:01.56xanaxdo you know if kde 3.5 will feature the new Crystal Clear iconset available at everaldo.com ?
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14:04.22xanaxthis new iconset is awsome
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14:04.36Sputn1ksomebody knows karamba, that shows procesor temperature?
14:05.13oGALAXYoxanax:  i have it installed but i dont like it that much... i switched back to nuvola.. maybe i should give it another shot.
14:08.00xanaxoGALAXYo : do you know the iconset Umicons ? check that : http://mattahan.deviantart.com/gallery/
14:08.02mobtekxanax: I dunno, SNOWE-RADE8 still rocks my world as the most complete iconset ever :)
14:08.21xanaxsnowe-rade8 ? i'll chech it out
14:09.49kolla_what controls connection between XF86AudioLowerVolume and the mixer?
14:09.56amorphixStevenR: the error code is "99  invalid second stage index sector (LILO)"  i have no clue that means or what might cause it, do you have any idea?
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14:10.55Beinericanllaith: hi to down-under
14:11.04StevenRamorphix: that means it can only find the first bit of the lilo bootloader....you haven't installed it properly
14:11.14amorphixdamn
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14:12.16anisXanyone know how to adduser in fedora core 3 ?
14:12.30mobtekBeineri: she ain't true down under :P
14:13.09kolla_oGALAXYo: yo :)
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14:13.49kolla_wonder where I'm supposed to tell kmix to only lower the volume wit 5% when XF86AudioLowerVolume is pressed
14:13.51StevenRamorphix: this is the wrong place to discuss this really, what distro do you use?
14:13.54kolla_with
14:14.28amorphixStevenR: sorry, i know...but im at my wits end and been trying to build this damn boot risk for 2 days now, I'm running Debian
14:14.31canllaithBeineri: hi there :)
14:14.41canllaithmobtek: I'm an Aussie mate, watch who you're calling a freak
14:14.52Beinericanllaith: there are two spots in your country on worldwide.kde.org (now)
14:14.57canllaithTwo spots???
14:15.12StevenRamorphix: try #linuxhelp or #linpeople, latter is quieter just now
14:15.21canllaithoh wow!
14:15.21amorphixok sorry
14:15.36canllaithBeineri: obviously quite recent
14:15.49Beinericanllaith: and there are four .nz email addresses of SVN accounts
14:15.57canllaithGosh
14:16.03StevenRamorphix: don't be disgraced. you're tired and stressed with your computer, and we've all been there.
14:16.04canllaithand of course that does not count me since I use kdemail.net
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14:16.18Beinericanllaith: saw my question about Yoper?
14:16.32canllaithBeineri: I certainly did, I will enquire.
14:16.34StevenRamorphix: come into one of those channels and i'll see what i can do.
14:16.46amorphixokay
14:17.08canllaithThis is obviously a good time for me to set up a regional NZ KDE site, and I guess I should introduce myself to this Scott person!
14:17.23canllaithWe do not really live so far away, I just have not got Rainer to update my location. I'm actually in the North Island of NZ now
14:17.31mobtekcanllaith: kekekek
14:17.56mobtekI forgot you were from here orig
14:18.04mobtekwhich makes it worse you know :P
14:18.08canllaithPenrith born and bred ;)
14:18.11canllaithSorry
14:18.12kolla_noone knows, huh?
14:18.12canllaithPenriff*
14:18.26mobtekhahahah UGBOOT PWINCESS! :{
14:18.28mobtek:P
14:18.37canllaithI have never owned a pair of ug boots I'm afraid
14:18.48mobtekdamn you traitor to the west
14:18.50mobtekhehehe
14:18.53canllaithAs I grew up in darwin. I do own multiple pairs of thongs
14:18.58Sputn1ksomebody knows karamba, that shows procesor temperature?
14:19.01mobtekahhh close enuff
14:19.01canllaithand before you yanks start giggling, a thong in australia is a floppy shoe!
14:19.09canllaithNot a ... ahem... *blush*
14:19.20mobtekcanllaith: they call them flip-flops
14:20.34canllaithoh my goodness
14:20.41canllaithThere is someone at phys.canterbury.ac.nz ?
14:20.50canllaithThey probably went to school with slayerbob
14:20.59physoscanllaith: look at the worldwide map
14:21.07canllaithphysos: hrm? I just did
14:21.08mobtekcanllaith: ooh then we can get goss
14:21.12canllaithOr have you changed something in the last 30 seconds?
14:23.21canllaithSo there are 5 at least Kiwis with SVN accounts
14:23.26canllaithWell ok, 4 kiwis and one imposter
14:26.03canllaithBeineri: heh, are 5 developers enough to have a mini Konference in NZ? ;)
14:26.15Beinericanllaith: sure ;-)
14:26.44canllaithIt would be nice if someone would be interested in helping me with KDE NZ site :))
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14:37.30SkrotMaybe wrong place to ask, but what is "Tenor"?
14:38.33Beinerivapourware ;-)
14:38.48PhilRodit's a context-aware metadata framework planned by (among others) Scott Wheeler
14:38.50BeineriWell, nobody knows how progressed is what Scott has on his hard drive
14:38.57PhilRodBeineri: heh :-)
14:39.24PhilRodSkrot: scott's speech from last year's akademy is online: google for "beyond hierarchical data scott wheeler"
14:39.28PhilRodthat should find it
14:39.29Beinerithink of JuK history, he had to be persuaded to release it...
14:39.38PhilRodhow come?
14:39.58Beinerihe didn't find it perfect yet?
14:40.06PhilRodah, perfectionist
14:41.39physosBeineri: He is stil doing work on it?
14:41.48Beineriphysos: juk?
14:41.56physosBeineri: both
14:42.08Beineriphysos: are you still working on feature guide? ;-) I guess answer to both is yes...
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14:47.48physosBeineri: The feature guide as you know it? no
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14:48.44PhilRodooh ooh, canllaith's "This month in SVN" guide will make a nice feature guide at release time
14:48.51PhilRodI only just realised that :-)
14:48.54canllaithPhilRod: aye
14:48.58physosPhilRod: Really?
14:49.05canllaithI mean ah
14:49.09physosPhilRod: Will she cover all features?
14:49.10canllaithGosh, who would have thought??
14:49.23canllaithphysos: I don't know, will she?
14:49.27physosPhilRod: It is an excellent basis though.
14:49.36physoscanllaith: will she? ;)
14:49.40canllaithAt least the ones I have covered we can copy and paste the text
14:49.46canllaithany I have missed is all we then need to fill in
14:50.20PhilRodyup - it should be cool
14:50.34canllaithnight :)
14:50.50physoscanllaith: Jep, but there are so many in kdeedu, kde* ...
14:51.05AngelusDoes anyone knows if there is a kicker applet that displays the current's song cover played in amarok ? something like the karamba apps and the amarok desktop script, but in the kicker
14:51.13canllaithphysos: but many months before KDE4.
14:51.20physoscanllaith: thats exactly why I want to make features.k.o fly, because you need quite a team to get this complete.
14:52.15physoscanllaith: but this sounds as if I do not appreciate what you do or think you can not pull it of which is not the case and you know it ;)
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14:57.31tabmoWanyone know a repo or a site where i can get kde stuff like karamba etc. for fc4?
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15:00.17apokryphostabmoW: there's a kde redhat repo. Not sure if that'll have it, but I recall it having a few kde apps for Fedora
15:01.18apokryphostabmoW: http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/
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15:06.29gekkoor is there a seperate room?
15:06.38pinotreegekko: #khtml
15:06.43gekkothnx
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15:17.59Sputn1ksomebody knows karamba, that shows procesor temperature?
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15:19.36Roeyhello
15:19.37Neuronioswhat I need make to drope the menu`s divisorie "All Aplications" and "Actions"
15:19.38Neuronios?/
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15:21.01Roeyis smb:// supposed to work when accessing a share on a Win2k3 file server in an Active Directory domain?  Because I just get a password popup that keeps popping up no matter what password and username I supply. Anyone have any ideas?
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15:25.21Neuronioswhat I need make to drope the menu`s divisorie "All Aplications" and "Actions"
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15:29.34Zero_DoggI'm using Kbabel, but can't get auxiliary po file to work, anyone around that might offer some help on that?
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15:50.00qt2err, is there a particular place i should place kde themes?
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15:53.24xassecan kde be compiled with gcc 3.4?
15:53.30oGALAXYoyes
15:53.41oGALAXYoperfectly
15:54.11oGALAXYorefering to kde 3.4.x of course..
15:54.16qt2XD, guess my question was supid? :P
15:54.40oGALAXYoqt2: there are particular places for themes.. there are themes and icons subdirs.
15:55.14xasseok, i ment the latest svn version :)
15:55.21pinotreeqt2: or better, se kcontrol to install them properly
15:55.22oGALAXYoxasse: sure...
15:55.28oGALAXYoxasse: you can even use gcc 4 :)
15:55.28pinotreeuse*
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15:55.39FlendorGood evening.
15:55.44oGALAXYomerhaba
15:55.46xassehm, i got into some trouble anyway..
15:56.10FlendorMerhaba Galaxy.. Ýngilizce konuþalým..
15:56.13oGALAXYoxasse: i compiled SVN some hrs ago and it went on flawlessly..
15:56.18oGALAXYoxasse: using gcc 3.4.4
15:56.36xassei got 3.4.3..
15:56.44oGALAXYoxasse: yes should be ok too
15:57.20Roeyhey
15:57.26xassei've got a problem compiling kdebase/libkonq
15:57.31Roeyanyone here use KDE's smb:// facility? I'm having major toruble woith it.
15:57.37xassesomethign about no matching function found for call..
15:57.52oGALAXYoxasse: let me guess. you have kde stuff in /usr ?
15:57.55Neuronioswhat I need make to drope the menu`s divisorie "All Aplications" and "Actions"
15:58.20pinotreeNeuronios: don't know if it's possible
15:58.21xasseit's currently installed in /opt.. but i plan to remove it once i get this svn compiled :)
15:58.23oGALAXYoxasse: there is the possibility that your SVN kde links against existing kde libs in /usr ...
15:58.30xasseah..
15:58.36xassei should remove it completely before compiling?
15:58.40oGALAXYoold libs and thus it causes this shit..
15:58.41oGALAXYoyes
15:58.52xassethanks :)
15:59.02oGALAXYothen recompile from scratch.
15:59.12xasseyep.. will do :)
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16:16.10NeuroniosWhere I can read about the "kde secret settings" .... i not found in the google ..
16:16.54pinotreeNeuronios: in the kde wiki
16:16.55termodoes kde have secret settings?
16:16.57VensonNeuronios: you'll need to contact kde secret service >:)
16:16.58pinotreewiki.kde.org
16:17.03termoif so, why?
16:17.06Neuronioshiauhiauha
16:17.11StevenRtermo: not really, just less known ones
16:17.27Neuroniospinotree not enter ...
16:17.32Neuroniosnot want
16:17.49pinotreehttp://wiki.kde.org/
16:17.54pinotreedoesn't i work?
16:17.57pinotreeit*
16:18.00pinotreei can read it
16:18.20Neuronios:\...... In my machine not want to enter ...
16:18.21redeemani cant find any secret settings on the wiki
16:18.29redeemanahh
16:18.33redeemanhttp://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Secret%20Config%20Settings
16:18.34pinotreeredeeman: use the wiki serch engine
16:18.39pinotreeexact
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16:19.08Gumbydoes anyone here know what I'd need to satisfy the following...
16:19.11Neuroniosok .. thanks
16:19.25epIs the "dictionary applet" available for the KDE 3.4.0 panel?  I can't find a menu option for it.  Also I can't seem to figure out how to place a "Home Folder" kongueror icon on the panel.....  I'm really not an idiot!
16:19.27Gumby"checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix"
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16:21.09kolla_mf.. I cannot find where I set the threshold for kmix' XF86AudioRaiseVolume/XF86AudioLowerVolume button support, I ~10% is too much for me
16:21.37Neuroniospinotree Timeout on server
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16:21.49pinotreeNeuronios: here it connects
16:21.55VensonGumby: what distro are you using?
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16:22.19Neuroniospinotree ohh gee
16:24.36epAlso, I used to able to add a personalized menu to the icon and i'm not finding this option.  Other stuff is missing, for instance the Kweather applet (i don't use this but its still not there).  
16:25.02ep*Personalized menu icon to the panel
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16:25.45pinotreeep: kweather is a kicker applet, so you'll never find it in the kmenu
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16:26.06epwhat is "kicker"
16:26.12GumbyVenson: pclinuxos.  I have found the solution though :)  thank you
16:26.13pinotreethe kde panel
16:26.38pinotreethe grey thing you see at the bottom of your desktop
16:27.15Beineritermo: secret=cannot be configured in the GUI
16:27.31epyes i know, I right click and select add to panel | applet and Kweather is not listed either is kdictionary (which I want)
16:27.33Beinerior better, "secret" to raise interest in them :-)
16:27.39RoeyCan anyone help me with this:  is smb:// supposed to work when accessing a share on a Win2k3 file server in an Active Directory domain?  Because I just get a password popup that keeps popping up no matter what password and username I supply. Anyone have any ideas?
16:28.35epI have not found ANY means via any panel configuration menu to add a Home Folder icon  ( I really want this on the panel)
16:28.59Beineriep: kweather is in the kdetoys package
16:29.08epah
16:29.42Beineriinstall it, and you will have it ;-)
16:30.45epWell I dont want that.  Just wondered why it was missing.   I do want Kdictionary (or whatever its called).  Is that a toy too?
16:32.06epI'll go read a description of the toys package.
16:33.49BeineriEp: kdict is in kdenetwork
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16:35.20rindolfHi all!
16:35.52rindolfI accidently told konqueror not to ask me again before downloading a file. I'd like to revert this setting, but cannot find it in the Konq configuration. What should I do?
16:38.08Tm_Treinstall your windows
16:38.09epHow can I add homefolder icon
16:38.35NeuroniosDisabling Category Titles in K Menu is it What I want to do ...
16:38.51Neuroniosnot want acess the page ..
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16:41.11epkdenetwork is installed btw -- still no kdict option in the panel configuration menu
16:41.16Beineririndolf: does this happen for all files or only certain mime-type?
16:42.25Beineririndolf: could be in the File Associations configuration then, otherwise edit config files :-)
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16:43.19cllsHey
16:44.16epah kdict is a seperate package :-)
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16:45.18cllsUhm, I want to rebuild the acinclude.m4 file for arts, I modified admin/acinculde.m4.in, and I know I should run "make -f Makefile.cvs" but here I only have Makefile.common, which doesn't wan't to work
16:45.35cllswhat should I type to rebuild the original acinculde.m4
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16:45.48rindolfBeineri: no!
16:46.31rindolfBeineri: when I browse using the Konqueror web-browser and click on a file to download, it used to ask me what I want to do with it ("Save As", "Cancel", etc.).
16:47.10Beineririndolf: grep for "askSaveapplication" within konquerorrc
16:48.56rindolfBeineri: thanks.
16:50.59cllsIs it possible to do ?
16:51.23cllsI managed to do this with kopete, which accepted Makefile.common
16:51.44cllshere it says aclocal: `configure.ac' or `configure.in' is required
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17:07.52smutzIn the konsole, how can I fix my keyboard input--I am trying to edit files on a remote system where backspace erases characters to the right and it keeps causing me to screw things up..
17:08.40smutzI tried everything under the menu item  Settings -> Keyboard and none of those options work..
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17:13.19smutzI really hate this..
17:14.22smutzYou get comfortable with the konsole then you have to start looking for other terminal emulators, due to one stupid little annoying detail that causes major problems.
17:14.45smutzAnd I presume no reply to my problem means there probably isn't a solution.
17:14.53oGALAXYothere is..
17:14.59oGALAXYodo you have a login shell in your konsole ?
17:15.04smutzyes
17:15.10oGALAXYoso it calls bash right ?
17:15.14smutzyes
17:15.25oGALAXYocopy the bash default config file to your homedir then
17:15.31oGALAXYoits a BASH issue..
17:16.03smutzok..... didn't know that..  Emulators I used to use on Windows provided a setting for this..  but tx!
17:16.22oGALAXYowhat is this windows you speak about ?
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17:17.01smutzsomething I seldom use today except for photoshop and some VB coding from time to time..
17:17.34smutzThe gimp is nice but photoshop has a much lower learning curve
17:18.00smutzsome day I hope kde will have its own nice alternative..
17:18.31Dhraakelliansmutz, they're working on it
17:18.41DhraakellianI've only ever used the GIMP
17:19.53Dhraakellianand I can probably count the number of times I've booted to windows on this maching without using two hands
17:19.58cllsIf I compile kde using gcc 3.4, will the applications beeing previously built with gcc 4 work ?
17:20.12DhraakellianI might have to resort to binary on a single hand, but still
17:20.44oGALAXYosmutz: http://img288.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot54gf.jpg
17:20.54oGALAXYoclls: i think 3.4.x and 4.0 are ABI compatible
17:21.01cllsABI ?
17:22.16smutzoGALAXYo: geez... it's actually csh...  yuck.
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17:22.35oGALAXYoclls: application binary interface
17:22.44cllsaha
17:22.46cllsok thanks :)
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17:24.05smutzoGALAXYo: Is she single?  I think she's my type..
17:24.40oGALAXYothats kirsten dunst... from spiderman 1 and 2
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17:24.48oGALAXYoyou can ask her
17:28.19markeymmmh kirsten dunst
17:28.56markeyshweet
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17:39.06TimmyJwhen I enable transluency/shadows in KDE 3.4.1 through control center -> window behavior -> translucency none of the effects I set are applied...am I missing something, do i need to restart?
17:40.29pinotreeTimmyJ: iirc, you need to logout&login again
17:41.05TimmyJfigured as much..thx :)
17:43.03smutzFeature Request for Konsole: Add a stinking option to fix the common Del/Backspace problem!!  You all said it was a bash problem.. The bash people said it was a vim problem.  The vi people say its a konsole problem.
17:43.11smutzgeez
17:43.45oGALAXYosmutz: which part of ITS BASH related you dont get ?
17:44.03oGALAXYoi use vim in konsole..
17:44.05oGALAXYoworks perfectly
17:44.08oGALAXYoits a bash problem
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17:48.22smutzoGALAXYo:   it works in bash...  It doesn't work in vim.. The reason why there should be such an option in the terminal emulator is so one doesn't have to do all the research to figure these kind of things out.
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17:49.17rindolfHi all!
17:49.31laurismutz: there are like 43 shells people could be using
17:49.38lauriand thousands of applications
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17:49.55rindolfDoes anyone else get [h264 @ 0x8613488]error, NO frame
17:49.55rindolfError while decoding frame!
17:49.55rindolfmplayer: h264.c:1948: mc_dir_part: Assertion `pic->data[0]' failed.73%
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17:50.03laurikonsole can't have an option for every misconfigured keybinding there is
17:50.26smutzlauri: indeed, but this particular problem is a common one when connecting to different remote systems.
17:50.28lauriI don't use bash, or vi, and I have no issues with my backspace or delete keys
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17:50.47TimmyJi don't need xcompmngr to run transparency in KDE 3.4 do it?
17:50.49TimmyJi*
17:50.56deepfrzeIs there anything I can do to keep KDE from shifting around the desktop when I power down/up?
17:51.05smutzlauri: sure.. I normally don't either.. it depends on the systems you are connecting to.. I ssh to this system because I have to do some work on it.
17:51.09StevenRdeepfrze: what do you mean?
17:51.31deepfrzeStevenR: When I power down/up my icons get shifted around
17:51.53StevenRdeepfrze: do you have kde auto generated mounted filesystem icons?
17:51.56Dhraakellianlauri, I'm planning on doing some distro-hopping in the near future and thought that I might try a *bsd while I'm at it.  Any recommendations?
17:52.16deepfrzeStevenR: fI am running debian etch, and this didn't happen untill I rebuilt my system on the weekend
17:52.16lauri1: don't say "*bsd"
17:52.21laurithey're entirely different operating systems
17:52.26Dhraakellianlauri, okay
17:52.30Dhraakelliannoted
17:52.43deepfrzeStevenR: I'm not sure, how do I check that?
17:52.51laurino really, ten years or more of separate development, different kernels, different everything
17:53.18laurithey're more like each other than anything else, but they're still as far apart as say, solaris and aix
17:53.23Dhraakellianmore different than two arbitrarily chosen linux distros, then?
17:53.29Dhraakellianah
17:53.35StevenRdeepfrze: check the behaviour tab in the config bit, right click on desktop
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17:54.42deepfrzeStevenR: you mean "automatically line up icons"?
17:54.46laurithe conventional wisdom is openbsd if you need security (that's not entirely true, it's hugely secure on a default install, but not more than any other system could be configured to, and in part because it's running  *no* services)
17:55.03StevenRdeepfrze: no, the device icons
17:55.18laurinetbsd for !i386 (that is true, if you have arcane japanese pc98 hardware, or would like to port kde to your toaster, netbsd would be the pick of the litter)
17:55.44laurifreebsd (which supports nforce2) is the one that I'd pick (and what i use)
17:55.52Dhraakellianso saying *bsd is more like saying *nix under the bsd license?
17:55.53deepfrzeStevenR: okay, I had show device icons, should I disable that?
17:56.00StevenRdeepfrze: yes
17:56.15lauriDhraakellian: it's your *nix'es grandaddy :)
17:56.19deepfrzeStevenR: that is something I didn't have enabled before
17:56.31StevenR?
17:56.47deepfrzeStevenR:  is there a way to enable that without causing problems?
17:56.58Dhraakellianlauri, any relation to the tooth fairy or easter bunny?
17:57.06lauriFreeBSD is effectively the result of the last remaining at&t code being stripped and rewritten from the original 386BSD (ie, UNIX itself)
17:57.20deepfrzeStevenR: I meant before I rebuilt my system...thanks for your help.
17:57.20StevenRdeepfrze: not afaik, but you can have static icons if you want, rightclick -- new -- device or somethign
17:57.21lauri386BSD was the BSD (berkeley standard distribution) ie, it *was* unix
17:57.34lauriand it's what solaris and all the others are based on
17:57.45Dhraakellianhmm
17:57.56Roeyanyone here use KDE's smb:// facility? I'm having major toruble woith it.
17:58.00Roeyis smb:// supposed to work when accessing a share on a Win2k3 file server in an Active Directory domain?  Because I just get a password popup that keeps popping up no matter what password and username I supply. Anyone have any ideas?
17:58.05deepfrzeStevenR: Okay, thanks, I'll look that up...cheers...great service..hehehe
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17:58.14StevenRdeepfrze: np
17:58.16Dhraakellianlauri, and this PC-BSD thing that I saw?
17:58.23laurilivecd of freebsd
17:58.31lauripretty much
17:58.46lauriexcept with some bogus claims as to provenance, and a complete idiot at the wheel
17:59.00Dhraakellian,':-|
17:59.14lauriin any case
17:59.56laurifreebsd has ~13000 software packages, netbsd maybe has half that, openbsd even less - and KDE has a whole bunch of people who use freebsd and keep it ticking nicely, the others don't really
18:00.49lauri(on the one hand, we mostly remove linuxisms, rather than fix freebsd stuff, so most of what we do is inherently portable)
18:01.31laurion the other, I dont *use* netbsd or openbsd, so I can't really say it doesn't work well there too
18:02.27Roeylauri:  hey where can I ask about smb:// issues?
18:02.28laurifreebsd is what the middle bit of Mac OS is based on too, for what it's worth (where middle bit is !X and gui apps and !kernel, the rest is more or less FreeBSD)
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18:03.17lauriRoey: here, in just a minute, when I leave to go fix dinner
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18:13.44Roeylauri:  alright, thank you!
18:13.46Dhraakellianlauri, so what is darwin then in relation to freebsd?
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18:24.10rr72hey all
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18:24.46Henk_PoleyMy kio_http just stopped working, any way to diagnose that?
18:27.21RoeyDhraakellian:  lauri's fixing dinner
18:28.43Dhraakellianah
18:28.44Dhraakellianright
18:28.47Dhraakelliandidn't see
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18:29.55hoknamahnhi, people!
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18:33.08RoeyDhraakellian:  (heh, and this thing in my case couldn't be more urgent :)
18:33.17RoeyDhraakellian:  I don't get it.. I thought I did everything right
18:33.32RoeyDhraakellian:  but for some reason I just cannot access shared files easily.
18:33.36Roeyor consistently.
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18:34.10Dhraakellianit grows on you
18:34.15Dhraakellianlike fungus
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18:35.58Roeyhehehe
18:36.09Roeyhonestly this thing is one of my sorest points with debian and kde.
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18:36.23Roeyand it may be KDE's fault as much as Debian's or Samba's
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18:40.25heri0ni just upgraded to kde 3.4 and now arts is saying cannot find default sound device
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18:54.09rr72howdy folks
18:56.51Tm_Thullo
18:58.42rr72hey Tm_T
18:59.04Roeyok
18:59.08Roeyanyone else know smb:// ?
18:59.15RoeyI need help gettting it to work consistently.
18:59.43rr72i use it it just works
19:00.03Roeyok, for me it doesn't.
19:00.09Roeyit keeps popping up this pw box over and over.
19:00.12rr72Roey~ try service:/
19:00.14Roeyregardless of what pw I use.
19:00.17Roeyservice:/? ok
19:00.29rr72in the bar of konq
19:00.37Roeyprotocol not supported.
19:00.40rr72do u see samba?
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19:00.49Roeyprotocol not supported.
19:01.00rr72idk
19:01.04rr72it was a thought
19:01.09Roeythanks :)
19:01.24rr72it sould be tho
19:01.32heri0n/j #alsa
19:01.56rr72and why? that sound and ur advertising other chans
19:01.56Roeyit ain't though :(
19:02.07RoeyI'm wondering maybe if I should upgrade kde.
19:02.13rr72prolly
19:02.16rr72what version?
19:02.20Roeyoh
19:02.23Roeythis is already kde 3.4.0.
19:02.26rr72oo
19:03.56Roeyyaya
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19:11.02rr72--- #kde :You need to be a channel operator to do that
19:11.07rr72lmao i didnt do anytihng
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19:22.54srednahttp://ktown.kde.org/~hausmann/qt4dance_medium.ogg :o
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19:24.50Dhraakellianhttp://www.trolltech.com/video/qt4dance.html
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19:25.28srednaDhraakellian: Are those better than the ogg?
19:25.34Dhraakellianthere are a couple people in #amarok with it filling up most of their Recent Tracks
19:25.34srednaI jut love the film :)
19:25.40Dhraakellianheh
19:25.52Dhraakellianthe mp3 is tagged better
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19:30.23Roeyhi
19:30.24Roeylauri:  hi
19:30.26Roeyare you there/
19:30.28Roey?
19:30.38illogic-alqt 4 has landed
19:30.43illogic-alwoohah.
19:31.06srednahttp://ktown.kde.org/~hausmann/qt4dance_medium.ogg :o
19:31.33srednaHi StevenR ,9'
19:31.37sredna:)
19:31.52StevenRyo sredna
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19:32.05Tm_Taaargh!
19:32.15slayerbobaaargh ?
19:32.15Tm_Tyou can't hide from it anymore
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19:32.29srednaRofl
19:32.31eeanmcome on and do the Qt 4 dance!
19:32.42Tm_Teeanm <3
19:32.43srednaGet the movie
19:32.57slayerbobthere's a movie ? :o
19:33.03trapecistacant watch qt4dance.MOV with mplayer
19:33.04srednahttp://ktown.kde.org/~hausmann/qt4dance_medium.ogg :o
19:33.14annmawho's gonna dance with me?
19:33.16rr72http://shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=3113&file=filename.pls
19:33.36trapecistasredna: its that the video??
19:33.44srednatrapecista: Yep
19:33.49srednaIn ogg theora format
19:34.42annmalol
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19:34.50ch-bevening
19:34.59illogic-alhey annma
19:35.07annmahi illissius-
19:35.09illogic-alooch!
19:35.13annmaillogic-al,
19:35.24slayerboblol
19:35.25annmahow about a glass of champagne after the dance?
19:35.38illogic-almake it milk and you gotta del!
19:35.45annmamilk!
19:35.46illogic-al*deal!
19:35.51epKubuntu has set up KDE in a way that I can't figure simple things out.  For instance, I have no trash icon.   This is ok I guess, I like a blank desktop.  But how might I empty it?  I right click the desktop and there's only an option to undo trash, not empty it
19:35.52chakieanyone here know if there are other songs apart from qt4 and qt2.3?
19:35.52annma<pooah>
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19:35.56illogic-al:-P
19:36.00sredna~order beer for everyone
19:36.07annmasredna :)
19:36.12srednaHi annma :)
19:36.22Tm_Tep: well well well...
19:36.35srednaThe bartender bot seems to be b0rk3d
19:36.36Tm_Tep: #kubuntu, we will continue there, ok?
19:36.50epdeal
19:38.32illogic-alillogic-al slides an intoxicating beverage down the table for everyone
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19:38.49rr72sredna~ i think u missed ur glass ;)
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19:39.35srednaBah
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19:39.45HangDudehi again
19:40.06annmaHangDude, are you a KHangMan character?
19:40.12annma;)
19:40.13HangDudemy xinerama is working now (thx aseigo ) .. but is there a way i can get the Kicker to go across both screens ?
19:40.37HangDudeannma, just in my spare time
19:40.48annma;)
19:40.54HangDude;)
19:40.54Dhraakellianhttp://www.audioscrobbler.com/group/Qt4+Dance
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19:43.24aseigoHangDude: sure, configure the panels, see the the screens drop down under the picture of the monitor
19:44.12HangDudeah got it.. great.. thanks once more :)
19:44.35HangDudehaving 2 19" TFT working like this is a charm :)
19:45.31HangDudeaseigo, are you still working on improving xinerama support ?
19:45.38rr72sredna~ i can't picture someone with wine on irc
19:45.38HangDudei have an issue i just found:
19:45.55illogic-alHangDude: please tell me how you got that to work
19:46.15HangDudeillogic-al, what's not working for you ?
19:46.18illogic-ali was trying to get mine to work today without much success
19:46.36rr72canllaith~ how r yah?
19:46.39HangDudeillogic-al, does twinview work for you ?
19:46.52illogic-alwell i can't configure the X server to display with it connected for one
19:46.56illogic-alvga works fine
19:47.09HangDudeso you only have one screen running, right ?
19:47.27illogic-alHangDude: haven't even gotten as far as twinview. i have it working on the command line. No X at all
19:47.34Roeyanyone here now who knows smb://?
19:47.46HangDudeaseigo, btw. it was really qt that wasn't compiled for xinerama
19:48.09HangDudeillogic-al, what vga setup ? one agp card with two vga-out ?
19:48.30illogic-alone PCI-e card
19:48.40aseigoHangDude: huzzah
19:48.51HangDudeaseigo, is that a short for something ?
19:48.51illogic-alRoey: i do.
19:49.05HangDudeillogic-al, nvidia ? ati ?
19:49.08HangDudematrox ?
19:49.17illogic-alnvidia
19:49.20aseigoHangDude: ha.. no, it's just an expression of triumph.
19:49.23HangDudek cool..
19:49.26HangDudeaseigo, ok ;)
19:49.29illogic-alDVI connection from card to LCD
19:49.52HangDudehmm k.. can you paste your xorg.conf to nopaste ?
19:50.21illogic-alnope. that computer isn't connected to the internet. yet.
19:50.30HangDudehmm ok
19:50.35HangDudewant my xorg.conf then ?
19:50.54illogic-alsure
19:51.04Roeyillogic-al:  hallelujah!! :)
19:51.15Roeyillogic-al:  ok, I'm having a specific troubling issue:
19:51.22Roeyillogic-al:  - it's not consistent.
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19:52.41HangDudeillogic-al, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/fJZqjc78.html
19:52.53HangDudeillogic-al, you do have the nvidia drivers installed, correct ?
19:53.08illogic-alnooo
19:53.12HangDudee.g.: when you start X you get the nvidia logo (unless you disabled it)
19:53.12Roeyillogic-al:  I try to access a resource that requires authentication (a shared directory on a win2k3 server in an Active Directory domain), and Konqueror throws back a pop-up password dialog.  I enter my credentials, hit enter, but the popup re-appears again and again.  My user is not locked out of the AD domain, I checked, but.. still my username/pw doesn't work.  It works when I put in my administrator name and pw though.. also, I get locked ou
19:53.12Roeyt after a whijle for some reason, too.
19:53.32illogic-althat little task is also waiting on an internet connection to happen :-)
19:53.32HangDudeillogic-al, oh... it'll need the nvidia driver
19:53.45HangDudeah.. well that's a dependency ;)
19:54.01HangDudeyou should really get that poor tuxbox some connection
19:54.19illogic-alheheh. i will once i finish moving
19:54.47illogic-aljust find it surprising (and disturbing) that my LCD won't work while the CRT does.
19:54.55HangDudeaseigo, do you still work on xinerama improvement ?
19:54.58illogic-althen again, i haven't tested thme with the same card...
19:55.01Roeyillogic-al:  how's that for a challenging problem :)
19:55.16illogic-alRoey: hard
19:55.21Roeyok
19:55.28illogic-alscpecially since i don't networek w/ windows much
19:55.29HangDudecause I find it very disturbing to have the application entries in the kicker to spawn across the 2 screens
19:55.31RoeyI just don't get why it is inconsistent
19:55.39illogic-aland definitely not w/ win3k :-/
19:55.40Roeyillogic-al:  sometimes I can get in, sometimes not.
19:55.49Roeyah
19:55.52Roeywin2k3 you mean?
19:55.53aseigoHangDude: haven't in a couple months. other things keeping me busy
19:55.58HangDudek
19:55.59illogic-alRoey: i'd say log out of X and then try to log back in
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19:56.41Roeyillogic-al:  I've tried that... I get the same thing.
19:56.55illogic-alif you can log in right after you leave KDE using the same credentials, then...
19:57.02illogic-alok. nevermind then.
19:57.15illogic-alRoey: are you running samba server?
19:57.20Roeyum
19:57.22Roeyyes actually
19:57.24Roeylet me check.
19:57.38Roey139/tcp  open  netbios-ssn
19:57.38Roey445/tcp  open  microsoft-ds
19:57.40Roeydios mio!
19:57.47Roeyyes, it looks so.
19:57.50Roey:P
19:58.07illogic-alif so try adding your username using smbpasswd
19:58.09RoeyI wanted to set up printing so maybe cups-over-samba is interfering?
19:58.16illogic-ali thiuk that's the command...
19:58.26Roeywhadjamean
19:58.52illogic-althere's a special syntax for adding windows users names but it works for me and my simple shares
19:59.33illogic-alRoey: using the smbpasswd command you can add remote users so that they'll be able to use your linux shares from windows
20:00.00Roeyoh I don't want that
20:00.10RoeyI want to just use the windows shares on our server.
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20:00.35illogic-aloh.
20:00.45illogic-alyou don't need samba server then :-)
20:01.01illogic-alon using windows shares, i dunno.
20:01.30illogic-almy far extending knowledge goes the other way
20:01.30rr72i heard some day they will make kde for windows
20:01.33rr72is taht true?
20:01.56haakonnhttp://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/
20:03.03Roeyrr72:  possibleye
20:03.09rr72im jk
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20:04.40to_hi, how to uninstall the desktop kde but without its graphic's libraries?
20:05.20aseigodefine what you mean by "graphics libraries"
20:05.30aseigoalso provide information on what OS you are using and how you installed KD
20:05.31aseigoE
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20:07.46to_i don't really know(i suppose qt).. i'm on debian(testing) and i use gnome as desktop so i'd like to remove kde but i'd like still use k3b for example :)
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20:12.56haakonnto_:  keep qt and kdelibs
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20:24.41qt2argh.
20:24.58qt2i cant change the default font of a linux console in konsole
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20:31.31ritalinanyone use superkaramba in here?
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20:33.38Tm_Tnot really, why?
20:33.51ritalinI have no concept of how to use it basically
20:33.58Tm_Tah
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20:43.45rr72how do i set utf - 8 in konq
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20:45.12rr72any ideas?
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20:47.37rr72i got it
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20:50.33watologohelp window
20:50.42watologoooops
20:51.01rr72u have SuSE in ur name
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20:53.33ringerc./part
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21:02.35fubarityI have seen with the KDE installs on Fedora Core 4 that the Desktop Menu--i.e., the menu that appears whenever the desktop is clicked--has some nontraditional item on it--e.g., open a new Konsole.
21:02.44fubarityI am curious how does one edit KDE's Desktop Menu?
21:03.40Dhraakellianeither right-click on the kmenu icon or alt+F2 kmenuedit
21:03.40Dhraakellianoh... the desktop menu? dunno
21:04.12fubarityAs far as I know, the kmenuedit utility does not edit this menu, only the K-menu.
21:04.19Tm_Tyup
21:05.10thiagofubarity: hmm...
21:05.15thiagofubarity: I can check the source c ode
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21:06.10fubarityI would certainly hope that it is not hard-coded, for I have always wanted to customize the menu--specifically, to add Konsole to mine.
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21:09.50thiagofubarity: I don't see any code to load optional menu entries
21:10.30fubarityPerhaps, then, I shall write a bugzilla report, requesting the ability to manipulate this at some point in the future.
21:10.39thiagogo ahead
21:10.41fubarityProvided one does not already exist, of course.
21:10.45thiagocould be nice
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21:16.01thiagofubarity: I've just confirmed Red Hat added that as a patch
21:16.04thiagoit's hardcoded
21:16.19fubarityThat is what I figured.
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21:16.54fubarityI normally use the Gentoo packages, but I became tempted to try GCC 4.0 in Fedora Core 4, so I quickly noticed this difference.
21:17.05CeruleanOoh, the accelerated X-server hype has gotten me interested. How much exactly can we expect it will "speed things up"?
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21:17.48CeruleanI can't get anything out of my graphics card with Composite (ATI 9200 with OS driver) - will this mean I can?
21:18.18Cerulean(when I say I can't get anything out of it, I mean window transparency == 0.5fps)
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21:24.58thorbenkHi!
21:25.09thorbenkDoes anyone know how I can call KDE's thumbnail generator from the command line?
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21:28.06Ceruleanthorbenk: I'm afraid not, if by KDE's thumbnail generator you mean either the thumbs in Konqueror or those shown by Gwenview etc
21:29.58thorbenkCerulean: Yes, I meant those in Konqueror
21:30.15Ceruleanthorbenk: No, i'm fairly sure that is not accessible via the command line
21:30.44pinotreeit's a KIO::Job that does that work
21:31.01thorbenkI know they are stored in .thumbnails, so what I did was delete that folger, then let konqi generate thumbnails for a whole folder, then copied those files...
21:31.40thorbenkThe problems was that konqi doesn't seem to generate them in the right order (I sorted the thumbnails by timestamp to match them with the output of ls for the same folder)
21:32.21thorbenkpinotree: Hmm, if all I have to do is write a smallish kde app, I'll try that... Can you point me to an example usage?
21:32.54thiagothe code in konqueror that creates the thumbnails :)
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21:33.35lucoxhi people: what can be the problem by "connection error" by sending a note throug knotes
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21:33.58Ceruleanthorbenk: If you just want to create thumbs then you probably don't need a whole KDE app ;)
21:34.21Ceruleanthorbenk: I'll /msg you some Python source that does it for you if you'd like.
21:34.23thorbenkCerulean: Well, KDE's thumbs for video files where so nice ;-)
21:34.38Ceruleanthorbenk: Ah ok. IIRC convert can do that
21:34.45Ceruleanthorbenk: Or was it MPlayer..
21:34.59thorbenkCerulean: mplayer is an idea...
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21:37.05lucoxanybody any advice ?
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21:41.31thorbenkCerulean: Yeah, it's possible with mplayer... Will use that.
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21:50.06epOn my old KDE I had a personalized menu on the panel.  I can't seem to set this up now.  How is this done?
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21:51.30epI think I figured it out
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22:04.43eckrothhey, I watched the movie "dopamine" recently, and although it kind of sucked, the computers all had KDE (unmodified)
22:05.29illogic-alstill not a reason to go buy, or even rent a sucky movie :-)
22:05.34eckrothright
22:05.38eckrothstay away
22:05.43illogic-allol
22:05.48illogic-alduly noted
22:05.59eckrothbut it was better than some hybrid DOS/MacOS/Windows variant, like Office Space
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22:13.22Sputn1ksomebody knows karamba, that show CPU temperature?
22:13.44pinotreesuperkaramba, you mean
22:13.55Sputn1ksuperkaramba plugin
22:13.57Sputn1kyes
22:14.26pinotreeSputn1k: you could try searching in kde-look.org, (super)karamba section
22:14.39Sputn1kok, i wiil try
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22:29.00dracI must be blind but I don't see where is option to create second panel and move taskbar to it..
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22:29.24dracCould someone point me to right direction?
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22:39.59dracNevermind. I was blind.
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23:25.16rr72how do i share x?
23:25.18rr72so i can ssh -x
23:25.20rr72i get critcal error
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23:28.03illogic-alrr72: GOOGLE
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23:35.22rr72anyone bored and not busy?
23:35.33illogic-alaye
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23:35.40EnSohello
23:35.59rr72illogic-al~ u know how to get ssh -X working?
23:36.02grepperyep
23:36.05EnSois there any way to use plugger inside konqueror?
23:36.20rr72grepper~ do i need a deb pack?
23:36.21illogic-alrr72: nope
23:36.52illogic-alEnSo: there may be a way but it'll be far easier to just use kde's native applications
23:36.53grepper"X11Forwarding yes"  in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
23:37.00rr72hehe
23:37.02rr72kool
23:37.09rr72i thought a config
23:37.14rr72ill test it
23:38.08rr72grepper~ the whole file is commented
23:38.16EnSoillogic-al: konqueror doesn't seem to integrate applications from plugger. they're outside the window and it shows a crash dialog
23:38.55illogic-alEnSo: i didn't say that it did. i said there _may_ be a way
23:39.09grepperrr72: that's good, no ?
23:39.10EnSoah...
23:39.13illogic-alEnSo: i just use native kde apps which have kparts that work natively in konqueror
23:39.25illogic-ale.g kaffiene or kplayer
23:40.15EnSoi wanted to use evince to view pdf's
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23:44.06illogic-alEnSo: why not use KPDF?
23:44.28illogic-alit's a really good app and well integrated with konqueror already
23:44.45EnSoillogic-al: i found evince better
23:45.14illogic-alah. haven't tried
23:45.30illogic-ali find kpdf to be really nice
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23:45.55pembo13kpdf is really ncie
23:46.02pembo13but evice is quite fast i must say
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