| 00:00.12 | gcbirzan | I'm going to write a script which first runs the --remote one and if no FF is started, start it. |
| 00:00.40 | intrepid | wouldn't remote do that? |
| 00:00.58 | Dhraakellian | and it works for me |
| 00:01.03 | gcbirzan | intrepid: Yes, but I don't know how to tell KDE to put the URL in a certain position in the command. |
| 00:01.10 | gcbirzan | As in, not at the end. |
| 00:01.16 | intrepid | oh i see |
| 00:01.19 | intrepid | %u i think |
| 00:01.20 | Dhraakellian | except in akregator, where I can't seem to open something *just* in a new tab in akregator |
| 00:01.33 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 00:01.47 | gcbirzan | Though, the script thing is better because if there's no started Firefox, -remote will fail. |
| 00:01.47 | derelm | Dhraakellian: i think that can be configured inside akregator |
| 00:01.49 | intrepid | at least that's how it is in the redhat application preferences dialog |
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| 00:01.56 | intrepid | but that's gnome |
| 00:02.08 | intrepid | yeah remote does fail if none is open |
| 00:02.19 | derelm | gcbirzan: you could have a look at gentoo's mozilla-starter or something like that |
| 00:02.35 | Dhraakellian | derelm, when I tell it to open in akregator (and not in an external browser), opens it in akregator and still sends it to firefox |
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| 00:03.10 | Mathman | hi guys. anyone know how I do a screenshot off the top of their head? |
| 00:03.24 | derelm | ctrl-print |
| 00:03.33 | Dhraakellian | oh, my bad... |
| 00:03.49 | Dhraakellian | it doesn't seem to open it in akregator; it just opens the tab |
| 00:03.59 | Dhraakellian | and procedes to open it in Firefox anyway |
| 00:04.01 | intrepid | a short script would do it to... just something like firefox --remote "openURL($1)" ; if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then firefox $1; fi |
| 00:04.10 | intrepid | oh wait.. |
| 00:04.14 | Dhraakellian | hmm... or is it still loading? |
| 00:04.18 | Mathman | derelm: hmm, I tried that, print screen I guess you're saying no? anyway, nothign pops up. does the shot just automatically go somewhere then? |
| 00:04.19 | intrepid | that would open it twice if another error happened.. |
| 00:04.31 | intrepid | but something _like_ that would work.. you'd probably have to figure out the right error code |
| 00:04.51 | gcbirzan | /usr/bin/firefox -remote "openurl($*,new-tab)"; if [ $? -eq 2 ]; then /usr/bin/firefox "$@"; fi |
| 00:04.55 | derelm | Mathman: just do a ctrl-v in any folder and name it screenshot.png |
| 00:05.08 | gcbirzan | Heh. |
| 00:05.19 | intrepid | sounds good |
| 00:05.23 | Mathman | derelm: k, lemme give it a shot. thanks |
| 00:05.28 | derelm | Mathman: alternative ksnapshot |
| 00:06.47 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 00:06.59 | sarah03 | Grr. "Direct booting from floppy is no longer supported." |
| 00:07.07 | Dhraakellian | I think I set it up so that printscreen would launch ksnapshot |
| 00:07.50 | gcbirzan | Heh. |
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| 00:08.13 | intrepid | derelm.. i think i figured out what to do.. just create my own Mail directory tree from within kmail from scratch |
| 00:08.21 | intrepid | that way i know it will work in kmail |
| 00:08.33 | gcbirzan | Trying to start a browser adds as starting "Konqueror", which changes to "ff" (my script) then disappears to the task barb. |
| 00:09.25 | intrepid | i bet outlook put those stupid cur, new, and tmp folders in there in the first place! |
| 00:09.34 | gcbirzan | Is there a way to disable that? |
| 00:09.38 | derelm | intrepid: i don't think so |
| 00:09.52 | gcbirzan | intrepid: Er, no. That's a standard maildir setup. |
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| 00:09.57 | intrepid | oh |
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| 00:11.36 | EViLGiMp | anyone here good with networks, i feel i'm forgetting something and need another opinion |
| 00:12.07 | gcbirzan | intrepid: Using it is a Good Thing â„¢. You can figure out which mails you've read and which you've not and be able to keep that between MUAs. |
| 00:12.15 | gcbirzan | EViLGiMp: You can try :-) |
| 00:12.19 | markc | dcop kdesktop KBackgroundIface setColor '#ffffff' false = object not accessible ... runing 3.4, do we still have a dcop interface these days ? |
| 00:12.21 | EViLGiMp | right now ifconfig gives me Link encap:UNSPEC |
| 00:12.25 | EViLGiMp | for eth0 |
| 00:12.56 | intrepid | other email clients don't show them though and i can still see what mails i have read and which i havent |
| 00:13.01 | derelm | markc: kdcop ... it takes 2 arguments |
| 00:13.04 | Dhraakellian | EViLGiMp, just out of curiosity, do you run a photo-editiong RPG or something |
| 00:13.20 | EViLGiMp | nope |
| 00:13.22 | intrepid | and when i go into those cur, tmp, and new folders (via shell or kmail) they're always empty anyway |
| 00:13.23 | gcbirzan | intrepid: No client is supposed to show them, but interpret the directory as a maildir. |
| 00:13.25 | EViLGiMp | setting up gentoo |
| 00:13.26 | derelm | markc: sorry, misread |
| 00:13.43 | intrepid | so kmail just doesn't handle it correctly then? |
| 00:13.50 | markc | derelm> does the above work for you ? |
| 00:14.01 | gcbirzan | EViLGiMp: That's a wired NIC, right? |
| 00:14.06 | EViLGiMp | yup |
| 00:14.09 | derelm | markc: did you try without '#' ? |
| 00:14.42 | EViLGiMp | ip's and gateways all config'd, but as soon as i boot to gentoo no net |
| 00:14.55 | markc | I'm just wondering if I'm not running all of kde or something... just now without the #, same result |
| 00:14.56 | gcbirzan | EViLGiMp: And this card worked before? |
| 00:14.57 | EViLGiMp | gives me the UNSPEC |
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| 00:15.02 | EViLGiMp | hell ya |
| 00:15.42 | derelm | markc: have a look at kdcop, navigate to kdesktop .. KBackgroundI... setColor |
| 00:15.46 | markc | EViLGiMp> I get that when my firewaie modules a loaded first |
| 00:15.58 | EViLGiMp | no firewall installed yet |
| 00:16.09 | derelm | EViLGiMp: check ifconfig |
| 00:16.15 | markc | derelm> there is no kdesktop in my kdcop...wierd |
| 00:16.29 | gcbirzan | EViLGiMp: Using that same driver? |
| 00:16.38 | derelm | markc: ok, then something seems to be wrong ;) |
| 00:16.48 | gcbirzan | intrepid: Possibly, 'sbeen a while since I last looked at KMail. |
| 00:17.01 | markc | I've got kded, klauncher, knotify.. and kommander... but that's all |
| 00:17.06 | EViLGiMp | hmm.. |
| 00:17.25 | derelm | markc: are you logged into kde? |
| 00:17.26 | markc | derelm> yeah, that's why I'm here :-) |
| 00:17.48 | markc | derelm> yep, those 3 items do show up in kdcop |
| 00:18.12 | derelm | markc: do you have the "k-menu" and stuff like that ... icons on the desktop and so on? |
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| 00:18.22 | gcbirzan | EViLGiMp: What kind of NIC is it? |
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| 00:19.11 | markc | derelm> ys... duh!! ... this is when I run kdcop from a root shell... if I run it from the actual users shell all the other parts are there... sheet |
| 00:19.29 | derelm | markc: ;) |
| 00:19.34 | intrepid | ok this is weird.. i can add a (local) maildir mailbox to kmail and it created a tree structure with all those subdirs i described before... but it can't handle them over IMAP??!?! |
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| 00:19.51 | markc | derelm> thank you.. your "are you logged in" question helped :) |
| 00:20.17 | derelm | intrepid: i think it's a server thing ... |
| 00:20.37 | intrepid | but it works with thunderbird |
| 00:20.42 | EViLGiMp | realtec gigabit |
| 00:20.53 | gcbirzan | intrepid: It is a server thing. |
| 00:21.00 | gcbirzan | EViLGiMp: What PCI IDs? |
| 00:21.14 | gcbirzan | I'm going to look it up in discover's db, since I'm too lazy for anything else :-) |
| 00:21.30 | EViLGiMp | how do i check that? |
| 00:21.34 | intrepid | ok |
| 00:21.35 | derelm | lspci |
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| 00:22.48 | EViLGiMp | rtl 8169 |
| 00:23.22 | derelm | EViLGiMp: did you compile the kernel yourself? did you add the needed nic-driver? |
| 00:23.41 | EViLGiMp | gentoo genkernel |
| 00:23.57 | markc | derelm> thanks for your help |
| 00:24.03 | EViLGiMp | driver listed in the drivers/net in lib |
| 00:24.06 | derelm | EViLGiMp: lsmod, does it show a rtl driver module loaded? |
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| 00:25.16 | EViLGiMp | yup |
| 00:25.59 | derelm | EViLGiMp: does ifconfig show your card? |
| 00:26.12 | Paleo | damn |
| 00:26.16 | Paleo | sometime , since I upgraded to 3.4, KDE shut down and restart without any apparent reason |
| 00:26.18 | Paleo | are there log somewhere ? |
| 00:26.52 | derelm | Paleo: you could use startx from console, then you get plenty of debug output |
| 00:26.58 | EViLGiMp | it shows my addresses for it |
| 00:27.15 | EViLGiMp | but encap is UNSPEC |
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| 00:27.50 | gcbirzan | cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/$(lspci | awk '/Realtek/{ORS="";print $1}')/{subsystem_device,subsystem_vendor} should print two lines, first is the device id, second vendor id |
| 00:28.24 | phxguy | anyone know how i can play music from itunes in linux? |
| 00:28.41 | gcbirzan | Though. |
| 00:28.54 | gcbirzan | If you don't have a network connection, that's going to suck. :-P |
| 00:29.19 | derelm | phxguy: try pymusique or sharpmusique (google for these) |
| 00:29.41 | derelm | phxguy: or was it more about playing aac files? |
| 00:29.49 | gcbirzan | So, in /sys/bus/pci/devices/(first value from lspci for your NIC)/ you cat those two files. |
| 00:30.34 | phxguy | derelm right now they are m4p files.... from the itunes music store. I just to be able to play them if I can convert them thats even better |
| 00:30.57 | derelm | phxguy: vlx can play these i think, mplayer should maybe too |
| 00:31.09 | derelm | phxguy: vlc i mean |
| 00:35.35 | phxguy | derelm: does vlc run in kde? or just gnome |
| 00:36.39 | derelm | phxguy: i am not really sure, i am not using it myself ... chances are that mplayer will play m4p's aswell, in a desktop-neutral way |
| 00:38.15 | sarah03 | ls . |
| 00:38.17 | sarah03 | Ack. |
| 00:39.41 | phxguy | hmmm looking at the features and it doesn't mention anything about being able to play m4p files |
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| 00:47.44 | eisregen | phxguy: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Convert_from_iTunes |
| 00:47.45 | megan | hey when i try to rotate a jpeg image i get the error 'couldnt find the program "jpegorient +90 %u"' ...anybody know whats with that? |
| 00:49.33 | phxguy | that would be great if i had gentoo... im using ubuntu/kubuntu |
| 00:49.41 | derelm | megan: it should be in your path, coming with kde |
| 00:49.57 | megan | its in my path its just not working:/ |
| 00:51.17 | Dhraakellian | phxguy, I've heard of people using gentoo documentation for other distros and just replacing the gentoo-specific stuff (emerge, etc) with general stuff (rpm command or manual building) |
| 00:51.45 | eisregen | phxguy: you can do it an any distri ... just ignore the genoo-ness .. also look for: QTFairUse |
| 00:51.52 | phxguy | sorry.. im kinda a noob here... |
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| 00:51.59 | derelm | megan: try running jpegorient 90 /file... to a jpg file you can spare and see if it works |
| 00:52.23 | Dhraakellian | it's probably not teh easiest to do with all gentoo docs, but many of them can be used for all distros with a little adaptation |
| 00:52.41 | derelm | megan: where you replace "/file..." with the path to the file ;) |
| 00:52.55 | megan | lol i know that much:P |
| 00:53.24 | megan | hmm it says....unable to move temp files |
| 00:54.04 | derelm | megan: are you trying to rotate a file you don't have enough permissions on? |
| 00:55.45 | megan | hmm ok scrap that picture its in my windows partition...ummm when i use one (that does have the right permissions:)) it says a whole lot:/ |
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| 00:55.54 | megan | umm but it doesnt work |
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| 00:56.27 | derelm | megan: can you post the output to http://rafb.net/paste? |
| 00:56.35 | megan | ok |
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| 00:57.15 | Boingo | My KDE locks up at random. The mouse cursor moves, but everything is locked up, no clock, no clicks, etc. Any ideas? Or, is there a prefered way to troubleshoot kde lockups? |
| 00:57.40 | canllaith | Do you have another WM or DE installed ? |
| 00:57.40 | annma | define locks |
| 00:57.54 | annma | is it frozen? |
| 00:57.56 | Boingo | No apps are working. |
| 00:57.58 | megan | ok its pasted |
| 00:58.02 | Boingo | The clock stops, the apps stop, etc. |
| 00:58.04 | canllaith | It would be a good thing to test under Gnome for a day or two to see if these lock-ups happen under it |
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| 00:58.21 | annma | Boingo: does that occure from the day you installed KDE? |
| 00:58.22 | Boingo | Frozen, yes. Except for the mouse cursor. |
| 00:58.46 | derelm | megan: hmmpf... are you still using kde 3.2? |
| 00:58.52 | annma | or was it OK and then it got messed |
| 00:58.56 | Boingo | anma: no, I didnt use it for a while, when I came back to use it, is when they happened. |
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| 00:59.08 | annma | so at first it was OK? |
| 00:59.09 | Boingo | anma: It didnt lock before. |
| 00:59.14 | annma | Boingo: try a new user |
| 00:59.20 | Boingo | It works for weeks under windows. |
| 00:59.39 | annma | under windows? |
| 00:59.52 | megan | ummm yes:/ |
| 00:59.56 | annma | Boingo: create a new user and log in KDE with it |
| 00:59.57 | Boingo | anma: I mean it most likely isnt hardware. |
| 01:00.12 | annma | Boingo: try the new user |
| 01:00.13 | Boingo | anma: I logged into kde under root. |
| 01:00.18 | annma | god |
| 01:00.19 | mattr | hmm, that could be part of it |
| 01:00.23 | derelm | megan: well, ok fine so far ... but somehow the script seems to have problems with contained exif data, sorry, can't help you with that |
| 01:00.24 | annma | how stupid, Boingo |
| 01:00.25 | canllaith | I think I am having an encoding problem |
| 01:00.33 | annma | canllaith: fun, me too |
| 01:00.34 | Boingo | anma: It doesnt seem to lock under root. |
| 01:00.37 | megan | damn ok thanks fro trying:) |
| 01:00.39 | mattr | canllaith: everybody has an encoding problem . :P |
| 01:00.50 | canllaith | mattr: Konqueror is showing ' as little boxes :( |
| 01:00.51 | annma | Boingo: will you create a new user and try it PLEASE |
| 01:01.04 | mattr | canllaith: hi! |
| 01:01.06 | annma | canllaith: wrong font? |
| 01:01.10 | mattr | canllaith: bad konqueror! |
| 01:01.13 | canllaith | annma: Same one I use always :( |
| 01:01.16 | Boingo | anma: Yes. Hang on. |
| 01:01.30 | annma | canllaith: what language? |
| 01:01.34 | canllaith | English |
| 01:01.46 | mattr | Romulan |
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| 01:02.03 | annma | hi mattr |
| 01:02.08 | mattr | hi annma |
| 01:02.11 | canllaith | :P damnit you're the third person to think I'm rather Romulan. |
| 01:02.56 | mattr | what the hell?!? first i get hugged half to death (but i liked it) :) and then i get assassinated? |
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| 01:03.10 | mattr | would you people just make up your mind whether you're going to love me or hate me? |
| 01:03.17 | mattr | :D |
| 01:03.18 | annma | we love you |
| 01:03.20 | canllaith | Why can't we just use and abuse you as we see fit at the time? |
| 01:03.26 | Dhraakellian | isn't the circumflex the one that looks like the caret? |
| 01:03.37 | canllaith | You love the attention, we like to routinely hug you and pick on you, what's the problem? :P |
| 01:03.43 | annma | ^ |
| 01:03.55 | annma | that;s the circonflexe, reversed caret |
| 01:03.57 | illogic-al | bîte me Dhraakellian |
| 01:04.11 | mattr | canllaith, annma: hmm, that works too. :) |
| 01:04.18 | Boingo | anma: Take it back, it happens under root too. While using kuser to add a user, it froze up. |
| 01:04.31 | canllaith | Boingo: I'd grab memtest and run it over your machine to test |
| 01:04.32 | annma | Boingo: think! |
| 01:04.47 | annma | Boingo: use your distro utility to add a user!! |
| 01:04.47 | Boingo | anma: Ok, I am trying. |
| 01:04.51 | canllaith | Even if it does work fine under Windows, Linux puts different stresses on a computer |
| 01:05.00 | canllaith | particularly if you often use gcc |
| 01:05.01 | annma | Boingo: it's ok I think for you |
| 01:05.09 | mattr | canllaith: hehe, been there done that. :D |
| 01:05.13 | Dhraakellian | illogic-al, what do you take me for? A humanitarian? |
| 01:05.28 | illogic-al | hrr hrr |
| 01:05.34 | annma | lol |
| 01:05.35 | canllaith | I just sucked badly at a job interview noooooooooooo |
| 01:05.48 | mattr | canllaith: what?!??! nooo, i'm sure you did fine. :D |
| 01:05.58 | canllaith | *sniff* I feel like I sucked |
| 01:06.15 | annma | Boingo: what is your distro? <Gentoo as answeris not admitted> |
| 01:06.20 | canllaith | Although, I spent an entire year listening to the boss whinge about the previous employee and how much he sucked :) So next to him I still look good. |
| 01:06.43 | canllaith | but I still suuuuuuuuuuuuucked :'( |
| 01:07.30 | Boingo | anma: :) Gentoo. |
| 01:07.35 | derelm | annma: why isn't gentoo admitted?... |
| 01:07.44 | annma | derelm: just a joke |
| 01:07.48 | annma | see |
| 01:07.49 | derelm | ;) |
| 01:07.57 | annma | because he was as root |
| 01:08.02 | annma | so I guessed it |
| 01:08.06 | derelm | hehe |
| 01:08.12 | Boingo | anma: Nah, I dont use it as root normally. |
| 01:08.13 | annma | :) |
| 01:08.18 | annma | well you did |
| 01:08.20 | Boingo | anma: just when testing. |
| 01:08.37 | annma | and sucha b0rked distro can only be Gentoo |
| 01:08.39 | Boingo | anma: I use a normal user, normally. |
| 01:08.40 | derelm | still root-usage is disencouraged, even in gentoo-land |
| 01:08.41 | Dhraakellian | annma, admitted or permitted? |
| 01:08.57 | Boingo | derelm: Yes, I agree. |
| 01:09.05 | annma | SuperLag: you are in charge of that user |
| 01:09.19 | sarah03 | Hm. I haven't run into all that many issues with Gentoo. I'm having more "fun" trying to get a new kernel running on my laptop right now. |
| 01:09.29 | annma | derelm: well it's a known fact that Gentoo users are very often root |
| 01:09.44 | derelm | Boingo: i didn't read from the beginning, to you have some wm/de aside kde installed? |
| 01:09.48 | annma | Dhraakellian: no way, you know I am a cvs user |
| 01:09.49 | Boingo | anma: I have never had any problems with gentoo except this one, and I run in on several machines. |
| 01:10.03 | annma | Boingo: this one pretty sucks |
| 01:10.04 | Dhraakellian | annma, I'm not saying that you wouldn't use CVS |
| 01:10.15 | annma | anyway, I was right! no? |
| 01:10.19 | Boingo | anma: True. |
| 01:10.21 | annma | so stop fussing!!!!!!!! |
| 01:10.32 | annma | portage! emerge! |
| 01:11.10 | mattr | lol |
| 01:11.17 | Dhraakellian | annma, it's #gentoo-kde |
| 01:11.21 | annma | anyway, I see there is enough people taking care of that poor user |
| 01:11.30 | annma | Dhraakellian: it exists? |
| 01:11.35 | Dhraakellian | mmhmm |
| 01:11.36 | annma | yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 01:11.43 | Dhraakellian | not very active, it seems, but it exists |
| 01:12.02 | annma | so I suggest to mv every Gentoo user here |
| 01:12.09 | annma | so we can cuddle in peace here |
| 01:12.16 | Dhraakellian | or cp or ln, at any rate |
| 01:12.17 | annma | <mean> |
| 01:12.24 | Dhraakellian | ,':-| |
| 01:12.28 | annma | mv is better than cp |
| 01:12.30 | annma | I don |
| 01:12.46 | annma | 't want even a symlink here |
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| 01:14.11 | annma | Dhraakellian: did you get amarok from cvs today? |
| 01:14.22 | annma | mine seems to fail to build |
| 01:15.02 | Dhraakellian | haven't updated today |
| 01:15.14 | Dhraakellian | Mon Apr 4 19:56:20 EDT 2005 |
| 01:15.24 | derelm | btw whats the status of the cvs->svn move? |
| 01:15.28 | annma | and it was OK |
| 01:15.32 | Dhraakellian | well, ~6:20 before that |
| 01:15.37 | annma | derelm: on hold at the moment |
| 01:15.44 | annma | will be soon |
| 01:15.46 | Dhraakellian | derelm, yeah, while they evaluate bitkeeper |
| 01:15.48 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
| 01:15.50 | derelm | wasn't that planned fo today? |
| 01:15.51 | annma | ;) |
| 01:15.56 | annma | derelm: nope |
| 01:16.07 | annma | no date was fixed for this week |
| 01:16.19 | Boingo | anma: Ok, yes, it does lock up under antother user/ |
| 01:16.23 | derelm | thought i read something abouth the 6th... |
| 01:16.33 | annma | Boingo: bingo, you'll have to emerge it again |
| 01:17.02 | annma | derelm: well I got no notifications |
| 01:17.03 | Boingo | I emerge the bas libs already |
| 01:17.12 | Boingo | the base-libs that is. |
| 01:17.15 | annma | Boingo: ask in #gentoo-kde |
| 01:17.33 | annma | I hope you use the monolithik ebuilds |
| 01:17.35 | Dhraakellian | there are only 10 people in there atm |
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| 01:17.48 | Dhraakellian | including myself and a bot, I think |
| 01:17.49 | annma | 10 is good if you are among them, Dhraakellian |
| 01:17.50 | Boingo | canllaith: I will try it right now. |
| 01:17.57 | Boingo | anma: Yes, I did. |
| 01:18.15 | annma | Dhraakellian: just scroll back and read |
| 01:18.21 | annma | he says his kde locks |
| 01:18.26 | annma | in all users |
| 01:18.33 | annma | windows is ok |
| 01:18.36 | gcbirzan | I doubt it's a memory problem. |
| 01:18.37 | annma | that's all I know |
| 01:18.54 | annma | maybe he used a lock-in-45-days flag |
| 01:19.01 | annma | I told him not to |
| 01:19.13 | Boingo | anma: Thanks. |
| 01:19.21 | annma | or he configured --with-lock |
| 01:19.26 | derelm | annma: ... |
| 01:19.30 | annma | sorry, bad joke |
| 01:20.08 | mattr | hehehe |
| 01:20.09 | Dhraakellian | lock-in-45-days? |
| 01:20.15 | Boingo | Running memtest now. |
| 01:20.25 | derelm | in germany we say something like "annma, did you eat a clown earlier that day?" ;) |
| 01:20.28 | Boingo | I doubt it is memory though.... |
| 01:20.41 | apow | derelm: i ate a clown once. |
| 01:21.03 | Dhraakellian | like the "crash every three hours" setting in Windows^WNifty Doorways? |
| 01:21.09 | canllaith | Boingo: but if you test, then you know for sure it is not memory :) |
| 01:21.27 | Boingo | callaith: I agree. That is why I am doing it. :) |
| 01:21.56 | Dhraakellian | apow, very humanitarian of you |
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| 01:22.51 | canllaith | Damn. I can't remember what I was doing. |
| 01:22.54 | canllaith | ..... |
| 01:23.06 | canllaith | argh I opened webbrowser for a reason! Why? |
| 01:23.09 | derelm | trying to get 's right? |
| 01:26.09 | derelm | grr, i wonder why my kmails imap cache is getting out of sync every now and then... |
| 01:27.38 | Dhraakellian | http://www.ubersoft.net/d/20000401.html |
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| 01:34.53 | phxguy | so how can i plllay my itunes music in linux... |
| 01:35.24 | phxguy | i 've got pymusique but it just lets me connect to the itunes store |
| 01:35.41 | thiago | can you download the file? |
| 01:35.57 | Dhraakellian | can stuff like xine play it, given the correct codecs? |
| 01:36.09 | Dhraakellian | or gstreamer? |
| 01:36.19 | thiago | given the correct codecs, sure |
| 01:36.26 | phxguy | I have xine a gxine install and it isn't playing it |
| 01:36.42 | phxguy | what codec should i have for playing m4p files... |
| 01:37.05 | thiago | phxguy: what codec is it? |
| 01:37.10 | phxguy | i have a codec in xmms that lets me play m4a files but not m4p files |
| 01:37.19 | phxguy | yes what codec is it thiago |
| 01:37.21 | Dhraakellian | ah |
| 01:37.35 | Dhraakellian | isn't there a utility to remove the DRM? |
| 01:37.39 | thiago | phxguy: sorry, I am asking you that |
| 01:37.49 | phxguy | i dunno |
| 01:37.55 | thiago | I don't have any file from iTunes |
| 01:37.57 | phxguy | i dont know what codec |
| 01:37.59 | thiago | is it AAC? |
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| 01:38.14 | phxguy | i think they are protected aac files mp4's |
| 01:38.24 | sarah03 | iTMS is AAC in a FairPlay wrapper. |
| 01:39.07 | sarah03 | So... I've heard there are utilities to remove it, I can't remember what any of them are off the top of my head, though, as I've never had reason to use one. |
| 01:39.11 | phxguy | sarah03: will that let me play the songs |
| 01:39.49 | sarah03 | phxguy: The easiest way to make them playable away from iTunes is to go find a utility to remove the DRM. |
| 01:39.59 | sarah03 | Or to burn them to CD and then rip them. |
| 01:40.15 | phxguy | i got pymusique from here and there was alink about itms http://www.pyronecrophilia.com/content/pymusique/ |
| 01:40.57 | phxguy | sarah03: im not able to burn them to cd for some reason either.... tried under windows in itunes4..7 and it wouldn't let me... That is what i had done in the past |
| 01:42.04 | sarah03 | phxguy: As I said, I've never had a reason to try removing DRM from a .m4p from iTunes, because I've never purchased anything from iTunes, |
| 01:42.57 | phxguy | neither have I ... the songs i have are from pepsi caps about a dozen of 'em |
| 01:45.22 | Dhraakellian | [21:45:16]<lfranchi> Dhraakellian: http://www.hymn-project.org/ |
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| 01:55.05 | Boingo | Ok, memtest passed all tests. |
| 01:55.51 | Boingo | callaith: any other ideas? |
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| 01:56.29 | aiki | hi anyone know a kde app that can show rss feeds on a (say transparent) desktop widget? |
| 01:56.52 | gcbirzan | superkaramba |
| 01:57.07 | aiki | its got a rss feed? |
| 01:57.47 | gcbirzan | No. But I was mentioning it nevertheless. |
| 01:58.02 | phxguy | im looking at jhymm and looks like they only have files for windows or mac platform |
| 01:58.22 | Boingo | There are no plugins for superkaramba that have rss? I would be surprised. |
| 01:58.51 | phxguy | Boingo: I thought i seen some at kdelook |
| 01:58.55 | tek | i was thinking the same thing, that has to already exist |
| 01:59.05 | Dhraakellian | phxguy, I just glanced at it, but I think there's a cli version that works on *nix |
| 01:59.19 | phxguy | the superkaramba site doesn't have a whole lot in the way of plug-ins |
| 01:59.28 | aiki | ok found one.. superkaramba skrssreader |
| 01:59.30 | gcbirzan | phxguy: You know, that threw me off too. |
| 01:59.45 | gcbirzan | But, then there's: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=38 |
| 01:59.54 | Boingo | Ok, so when my KDE locks up, sometimes when I reboot, the KDE is only 640x480 and that is the only option I have. Does that lead to a driver issue? |
| 01:59.55 | phxguy | doesn't make a whole lotta sense to me.... but oh well |
| 02:00.09 | phxguy | I need to try out this jhymm in windows.... Thanks for all your help people |
| 02:00.11 | phxguy | bye |
| 02:00.25 | thiago | Boingo: cold or warm reboot? |
| 02:00.34 | Boingo | thiago: warm |
| 02:00.37 | Dhraakellian | Boingo, just a total guess, but is it an X11 configuration problem? |
| 02:00.43 | thiago | Boingo: what happens if it's a cold reboot? |
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| 02:01.53 | Tpo1 | what was that trick for getting a program to use artsd? some way to "wrap" the binary |
| 02:01.56 | Boingo | thiago: A cold reboot after a lockup? |
| 02:02.07 | thiago | Boingo: yes |
| 02:02.12 | Boingo | Dhraakellian: I suppose, but I havent changed anything that I know of. |
| 02:02.22 | Boingo | thiago: Unknown, havent tried it. |
| 02:02.24 | thiago | Boingo: in fact, I am wondering how you managed a warm reboot at all. |
| 02:02.39 | Boingo | thiago: pushed the reset button on the box. |
| 02:02.41 | gcbirzan | Tpo1: artsdsp |
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| 02:02.49 | thiago | Boingo: in any event, I'm asking because the hardware could have been left in such a state that the driver can't initialise it |
| 02:02.57 | thiago | Boingo: or recognise or whatever |
| 02:03.02 | Dhraakellian | define "warm reboot" |
| 02:03.03 | thiago | Boingo: that's a cold reboot |
| 02:03.03 | Boingo | thiago: Gotcha. |
| 02:03.11 | thiago | Dhraakellian: Ctrl+Alt+Del |
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| 02:03.29 | thiago | Boingo: I've seen that happen, but it's not common. |
| 02:03.31 | Boingo | I was under the impression that warm was without a powerdown/shutoff. |
| 02:03.36 | thiago | X-The: did that fix your problem? |
| 02:03.49 | Boingo | thiago: But why is it locking up in the first place? |
| 02:03.52 | Dhraakellian | what about alt+sysrq+s,u,b? |
| 02:03.53 | thiago | Dhraakellian: same thing, since Ctrl+Alt+Del runs /sbin/reboot |
| 02:03.54 | X-The | obrigadinho pela resposta q me deste no icq |
| 02:04.09 | Tpo1 | thanks |
| 02:04.34 | Dhraakellian | thiago, but the ssh one still works sometimes when the interface is totally frozen |
| 02:04.35 | Boingo | thiago: I cant use the keyboard once it locks up. |
| 02:04.51 | Boingo | So no, CTRL+ALT+DEL. |
| 02:04.52 | thiago | Dhraakellian: not sure about Alt+SysRq+B |
| 02:04.53 | Dhraakellian | Boingo, got another computer handy? |
| 02:05.03 | thiago | Dhraakellian: I think Linux performs a cold reboot |
| 02:05.03 | Boingo | Dhraakellian: Yes. |
| 02:05.08 | Dhraakellian | well, sync, unmount, reboot |
| 02:05.16 | Dhraakellian | Boingo, got ssh? |
| 02:05.26 | Boingo | Dhraakellian: Yes. |
| 02:05.33 | Dhraakellian | Boingo, !;) |
| 02:06.10 | Dhraakellian | Boingo, out of curiosity, is there any particular event that causes it? |
| 02:06.19 | Dhraakellian | like random things in kaffeine? |
| 02:06.21 | Boingo | Dhraakellian: Not that I can find. |
| 02:06.39 | thiago | X-The: how about the kdenetwork problems? |
| 02:06.46 | Boingo | Dhraakellian: I have had it lockup in many different ways. I can't find a similarity. |
| 02:06.53 | X-The | still the same |
| 02:06.55 | Dhraakellian | such that even killing X doesn't help |
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| 02:07.00 | X-The | and cvs isnt working |
| 02:07.06 | thiago | X-The: what CVS server? |
| 02:07.07 | Dhraakellian | and I have to reboot remotely |
| 02:07.10 | thiago | anoncvs? |
| 02:07.17 | X-The | yes |
| 02:07.25 | X-The | either webcvs |
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| 02:07.48 | Boingo | Dhraakellian: If I stay in console, it doesnt lock up. Only under KDE. |
| 02:08.10 | Dhraakellian | Boingo, once it's frozen, can you ssh in and reboot from cli? |
| 02:08.25 | Dhraakellian | or actually do anything else of use |
| 02:08.44 | thiago | X-The: the anon servers seem to be down |
| 02:08.54 | thiago | the master server is working, though |
| 02:09.03 | X-The | and that kdenetwirk build error continues the same |
| 02:09.13 | thiago | X-The: I can give you the fix, though |
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| 02:10.22 | thiago | X-The: patch sent to your email |
| 02:10.29 | X-The | ok |
| 02:10.43 | X-The | thks |
| 02:11.17 | Boingo | If the screen comes up 640x480 and I CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE then KDE reloads and is back in hi-res. |
| 02:12.13 | Tpo1 | artsdsp doesn't seem to want to work... it works fine when I kill artsd though heh |
| 02:13.23 | LeeJunFan | That's like having a car that works w/o the engine :) |
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| 02:13.52 | vi4m | but why kde use arts? |
| 02:14.13 | Boingo | Dhraakellian: The machine is responding normally via SSH when it is locked up. |
| 02:14.21 | vi4m | alsa+dmix+gstreamer does the arts work better |
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| 02:14.34 | canllaith | alsa + dmix + gstreamer did not exis when arts was written |
| 02:14.59 | Tpo1 | ya well, I don't have gstreamer |
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| 02:15.15 | Tpo1 | scratch tat, I misread |
| 02:15.20 | katya | arts is easier to setup |
| 02:15.31 | Tpo1 | reading is fundamental |
| 02:16.54 | vi4m | but when running arts realtime, the system is less reponsive |
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| 02:17.29 | canllaith | Maybe for you.... works fine here |
| 02:19.04 | Boingo | Does anyone have any other ideas? |
| 02:22.55 | [_]illogic-al | Boingo: prob? |
| 02:23.08 | Boingo | KDE locks up at random. |
| 02:23.40 | [_]illogic-al | stop using nvidia driver for X. TADA! |
| 02:23.52 | Boingo | Think so? |
| 02:23.52 | katya | erm |
| 02:23.59 | katya | what do you suggest, ATI? |
| 02:24.02 | canllaith | That also works fine here. |
| 02:24.16 | Boingo | I am running nvidia. |
| 02:24.24 | vi4m | Boingo: play with nvidia NvAgp settings |
| 02:24.25 | [_]illogic-al | considering that _everyone_ who's had that problem (including me) has been using the nvidia drivers... yeah, i think so. |
| 02:24.35 | Boingo | I am running a fx5200 as well. |
| 02:24.36 | katya | Boingo: kde isn't really... anything. what is 'kde locking up' supposed to mean |
| 02:24.49 | katya | kde is a collaboration of applications, utilities, and stuffs. |
| 02:24.54 | [_]illogic-al | it's not a KDE problem, it will happen in gnome too. |
| 02:25.03 | Boingo | All the applications stop respoing, the clock stops ticking, etc. |
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| 02:25.23 | [_]illogic-al | take it from someone who has spent months trying to troubleshoot this |
| 02:25.27 | Boingo | I CAN ssh into the box though, and it is still running. |
| 02:25.43 | Boingo | So what driver DO I try? |
| 02:25.57 | [_]illogic-al | normal X driver. |
| 02:26.02 | [_]illogic-al | nv |
| 02:26.02 | vi4m | try default nv X driver |
| 02:26.03 | canllaith | So what about the hundreds of people who use nvidia cards with no problem at all |
| 02:26.12 | katya | Boingo: that sounds like X is dying, not 'kde'. |
| 02:26.15 | Boingo | canllaith: I was thinking the same thing. |
| 02:26.18 | canllaith | and the hundreds of people who have lockups using ati, neomagic, etc etc ? |
| 02:26.21 | [_]illogic-al | katya: yup |
| 02:26.32 | canllaith | by all means, try the nv driver |
| 02:26.34 | katya | Boingo: is your gpu fan working? |
| 02:26.38 | canllaith | It could very well help. |
| 02:26.58 | Boingo | katya: Yes. |
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| 02:27.44 | canllaith | ah sod, maybe I don't want to game and compile KDE at the same time...... |
| 02:27.59 | mattr | hehe |
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| 02:28.45 | Boingo | What disadvantage will I get from switching to the nv driver? |
| 02:28.55 | canllaith | Kiss your gaming goodbye ;):P |
| 02:28.58 | [_]illogic-al | no 3d |
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| 02:29.04 | [_]illogic-al | and slower 2d |
| 02:29.15 | Boingo | canllaith: I dont really do much gaming. |
| 02:29.31 | Boingo | canllaith: Plus, I cant do much of it right now anyway. |
| 02:29.42 | zodiaq | ok im in trouble... i cant get my keyboard to work in kde. xkbcomp is saying some stuff about "type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but <RALT> has 2 symbols. ignoring extra symbols" |
| 02:30.03 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 02:30.05 | zodiaq | anyone have any clues? |
| 02:30.18 | canllaith | :( |
| 02:31.21 | tek | does it work in just the command line? |
| 02:31.59 | tek | say in a virtual console |
| 02:32.31 | Dhraakellian | canllaith, don't let him get your goat |
| 02:33.36 | Boingo | Ok, changed the driver to nv. Time to see if it crashes. |
| 02:35.40 | canllaith | yay! :) |
| 02:35.59 | eisregen | is there any editor for kde that can the captures as part of the replacement when searching and replacing with regex ? |
| 02:36.08 | eisregen | *can use |
| 02:36.30 | [_]illogic-al | wut? |
| 02:37.28 | gcbirzan | eisregen: vim? :-) |
| 02:38.01 | Boingo | No crashes yet. It normally would have by now. |
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| 02:39.18 | eisregen | [_]illogic-al: the captures .. like in /this->([a-zA-Z0-9]+)/ <- everything in the braces is 'captured' and should be usable in the replacement part ... otherwise one can only use minimal of the power pcre's provide --- |
| 02:39.39 | [_]illogic-al | eisregen: kate can i think |
| 02:39.54 | [_]illogic-al | and therefore kwrite as well |
| 02:40.23 | canllaith | hahaha whoops, forgot to plug the keyboard back into the right port |
| 02:40.40 | eisregen | [_]illogic-al: THANKS =D =D |
| 02:40.42 | [_]illogic-al | that's what usb is for :-) |
| 02:40.47 | [_]illogic-al | eisregen: np |
| 02:40.50 | canllaith | Nah this is an old IBM model M keyboard |
| 02:40.56 | eisregen | I didn't notice ... this wasn't available in 3.3.* I bnelieve =) |
| 02:41.04 | EViLGiMp | oh hey, just to let ya's know i fixed my ethernet issue |
| 02:41.07 | [_]illogic-al | eisregen: it was |
| 02:41.11 | mattr | oooh, i want a model M keyboard |
| 02:41.25 | eisregen | [_]illogic-al: oh ... then I probably tried with $! ^^ |
| 02:41.32 | eisregen | * $1 |
| 02:41.34 | [_]illogic-al | i want kopete to stop crashing, but i don't think that's gonna happen either }:-) |
| 02:41.56 | slayerbob | [_]illogic-al: kopete stops crashing for me as soon as i stop trying to run it |
| 02:42.00 | canllaith | mmmm do I enable HIGHMEM for 1.5 or not? Prolly not I guess |
| 02:42.07 | [_]illogic-al | hahah |
| 02:42.08 | mattr | yes |
| 02:42.16 | mattr | canllaith: you have to enable HIGHMEM |
| 02:42.19 | canllaith | I don't for 1.... I should for 1.5 ? |
| 02:42.24 | eisregen | [_]illogic-al: kopete crashes here everytime I close a window or a tab ... |
| 02:42.27 | eisregen | ='( |
| 02:42.40 | mattr | eisregen: upgrade libxml2 and libxslt |
| 02:42.43 | slayerbob | canllaith: wasn't that the problem that we had with notholly only claiming to have around 800MB RAM ? |
| 02:42.50 | canllaith | slayerbob: iirc, yes |
| 02:42.53 | slayerbob | ie. me not having highmem set... |
| 02:42.53 | mattr | canllaith: yes, you should, anything a gig or higher |
| 02:43.00 | canllaith | So I have HIGHMEM on hal |
| 02:43.11 | eisregen | mattr: I have the most up-to date STABLE I believe ... I wan't use any cvs version ^^ |
| 02:43.20 | sarah03 | canllaith: You have to enable HIGHMEM for >1G, that way the kernel knows to not keep all of the memory mapped at all times. |
| 02:43.21 | [_]illogic-al | eisregen: in 3.3/3.4 you can just click on [] Regular expression in the Find/Replace box |
| 02:43.23 | mattr | eisregen: no, you don't have the most up to date stable then |
| 02:43.31 | mattr | eisregen: there's a new version out |
| 02:43.38 | canllaith | sarah03: ok :) I rarely have more than 1GB in my home machine so I wasn't sure. |
| 02:44.04 | sarah03 | *shrug* The closest I've come to 1G in any of my machines was 896M. |
| 02:44.34 | canllaith | I have 3x 512 modules here and 1x 256... not enough slots for the 256 :( |
| 02:45.10 | sarah03 | I've only got the one 512M DIMM right now... picked it up while it was "cheap". |
| 02:45.19 | eisregen | libxml2-2.6.18 ... oh I see libxml2-2.6.19 is out =P |
| 02:45.26 | canllaith | Yeah, I got these, my mobo and my cpu for doing a web site for someone :) |
| 02:46.01 | tek | have 1.5 gig of ram on desktop machine and 2.5 on server |
| 02:46.21 | Boingo | Seems like it is working. Thanks all. In case I dont come back. (hopefully) |
| 02:46.29 | sarah03 | I've got ... er, 16 ... in my laptop. |
| 02:46.54 | tek | ouch, your kidding right? |
| 02:46.55 | sarah03 | And I discovered that I can buy an 8M memory upgrade for it for $119. |
| 02:47.03 | canllaith | That sounds rather steep for 8M |
| 02:47.09 | slayerbob | heh |
| 02:47.35 | sarah03 | canllaith: Yeah, it does. That's the price I found, though. The sad thing is, the 64M upgrade costs less. |
| 02:47.47 | tek | that is steep for 512M, i think i can get a gig stick for that |
| 02:48.03 | sarah03 | But yes, it does only have 16M of memory in it. It looks like it takes so-dimms but I'm not certain given it's age. |
| 02:48.14 | tek | what kind of laptop is it |
| 02:48.24 | sarah03 | tek: Toshiba Satellite Pro 445cdx. |
| 02:48.29 | [_]illogic-al | adios oingo Boingo |
| 02:48.30 | canllaith | oh! |
| 02:48.32 | canllaith | It's a TOSHI! |
| 02:48.49 | sarah03 | canllaith: Was free. :D |
| 02:48.52 | canllaith | slayerbob: is that the same as the legendary toshi who fell at the hand of the deadly korean socks? |
| 02:49.12 | canllaith | sarah03: my brother in law had one of those, having to hang around in Germany longer to get it fixed was how he met his wife iirc |
| 02:49.18 | canllaith | It only recently died. |
| 02:49.58 | slayerbob | nah his was a portege |
| 02:50.15 | canllaith | Aw :( So not the same as toshi |
| 02:50.18 | canllaith | pretty similar though I bet |
| 02:50.24 | sarah03 | canllaith: Yeah, that's the one thing I've noticed about them [I've had 2 others, one dead because the display was cracked, the other cound be considered "dead" because the keyboard sucks.] |
| 02:50.38 | [_]illogic-al | lol |
| 02:50.39 | sarah03 | This one feels like it was a tank, though. |
| 02:50.46 | canllaith | although, slayerbob does seem to have a talent for BREAKING MY LAPTOPS |
| 02:51.03 | straw | uh oh |
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| 02:51.41 | straw | grr. stupid camera |
| 02:51.49 | illogic-al | haaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 02:51.54 | illogic-al | haaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 02:52.42 | straw | i've been fooling with usb-storage for the past coupla days |
| 02:53.08 | illogic-al | so i got this article from the journal of biomedical science on hiv |
| 02:53.18 | slayerbob | oh now don't you make out like it is my fault that that toshiba kept breaking |
| 02:53.18 | illogic-al | rather interesting it is. |
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| 02:53.37 | slayerbob | how many things on it broke *before* you gave it to me ? |
| 02:53.38 | slayerbob | :P |
| 02:53.39 | canllaith | This place is starting to look properly geeky |
| 02:53.46 | illogic-al | in realted news Sin City rocked! |
| 02:53.57 | illogic-al | awesomest movie of the year. |
| 02:54.04 | canllaith | A desk isn't geeky until you have a hdd sitting in a clam and some random sticks of memory wrapped up in plastik bags. |
| 02:54.27 | straw | adding it to unusual_devs.h and rebuilding usb-storage.ko gets me /dev/sda but no partitions get found on the device :/ |
| 02:54.53 | illogic-al | straw: what are you speaking of? |
| 02:55.17 | straw | illogic-al: a Labtec DC-505 digital camera |
| 02:55.44 | illogic-al | labtec? i thought they were bought out by logitech. |
| 02:56.04 | straw | *shrug* |
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| 02:56.26 | illogic-al | yes. this info has nooo bearing whatsoever on your problem. |
| 02:56.29 | straw | it's reported as a vivitar |
| 02:56.55 | sarah03 | canllaith: No, a desk isn't really geeky until you've got a bare processor and hard drive sitting on top of one of your monitors, cds scattered all over the place, and completely random expansion cards for various things floating around your desk. :D |
| 02:57.02 | straw | the device ids match a vivitar vivicam 3705 |
| 02:57.25 | illogic-al | vivicam eh? |
| 02:57.29 | illogic-al | sounds kinky. |
| 02:58.04 | katya | the last part of my PC uniform arrives soon :D |
| 02:58.04 | straw | sarah03: you forgot the drawer full of miscellaneous cables |
| 02:58.04 | katya | my 17" black LCD |
| 02:59.45 | sarah03 | straw: Drawer? |
| 02:59.49 | gcbirzan | sarah03: Bonus points if the hard drive is missing its cover. |
| 03:00.21 | sarah03 | straw: All of my cables are one giant knotted mess floating around my desk. |
| 03:00.29 | tek | <sarah03> that descibes my whole house, computer gear everywhere. |
| 03:00.31 | straw | sarah03: lol |
| 03:01.13 | mattr | canllaith: you and sarah03 sound like you could be best friends. ;) |
| 03:01.21 | katya | i only have 4 cables :D |
| 03:01.25 | canllaith | Or rivals. |
| 03:01.42 | katya | bluetooth + wifi :D |
| 03:01.48 | canllaith | At least if I take other girls to computer shows they're not competing with me for the good kit ;) |
| 03:01.54 | katya | well, you could break that down more too |
| 03:02.20 | tek | oh, hey that is a good question, anyone gotten a bluetooth keyboard to work with linux yet? |
| 03:02.35 | sarah03 | katya: I've got probably 20 cables running out of the back of my computer. |
| 03:02.53 | tek | i have a linksys bluetooth adapter and frogpad bluetooth keyboard, cant get linux to see it at all. |
| 03:02.55 | sarah03 | Ok, 12. Close enough. |
| 03:03.38 | tek | at least not as a keyboard, can get kbluetooth to see it but it does not treat it as a keyboard, my mac does without issues, this is for a pc that is going in my truck |
| 03:03.56 | sarah03 | canllaith: *shrug* I pick up most of my gear from fellow geeks. As a result, I should be picking up a powerbook running OSX here soon, for us$40. |
| 03:04.03 | canllaith | Suhweet! |
| 03:04.09 | canllaith | What kind of powerbook? An older one I guess :) |
| 03:04.25 | sarah03 | Dunno, but it's gotta be relatively new, because it's got OSX running on it. :D |
| 03:04.34 | canllaith | ( brucehoult has a pismo (266Mhz, 320MB runs OSX reasonably well) |
| 03:04.37 | canllaith | ) |
| 03:04.37 | tek | powerbooks look great but airport extreme cards do not work under linux |
| 03:04.46 | Dhraakellian | "Today, on Lives of Spoiled Geek Girls..." |
| 03:04.50 | tek | have a g4 |
| 03:04.53 | canllaith | Spoiled geek girls? |
| 03:04.55 | sarah03 | Dhraakellian: lol |
| 03:04.57 | canllaith | I work for a living sunshine. |
| 03:04.57 | tek | :o( |
| 03:05.20 | Dhraakellian | oh, right... it's the guys with geek girlfriends who are spoiled |
| 03:05.53 | Dhraakellian | and working for a living doesn't necessarily mean that you aren't spoiled |
| 03:06.46 | snugglemonkey | She makes other wife's cringe when I tell of my spending exploits. :) |
| 03:07.23 | snugglemonkey | wow. wife's wives wifes |
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| 03:45.01 | rkroetch | If anyone is online who tried to help out with DCOP and changing the kdesktops color.. I did an alternate route and modified kdesktoprc with sed... If anyone wants random backround colors at startup have a shell script for it now :) Thanks to the room for trying to help |
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| 03:46.50 | xuesheng | Hello there... |
| 03:48.48 | rkroetch | Hello... or goodbye... perhaps both... |
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| 03:49.15 | scrooge | HI! |
| 03:49.17 | scrooge | :D |
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| 03:51.22 | rkroetch | Oh dear |
| 03:51.40 | rkroetch | scrooge: If anyone is online who tried to help out with DCOP and changing the kdesktops color.. I did an alternate route and modified kdesktoprc with sed... If anyone wants random backround colors at startup have a shell script for it now :) Thanks to the room for trying to help |
| 03:51.45 | rkroetch | You were there last night, no? lol |
| 03:52.30 | scrooge | yea |
| 03:52.30 | scrooge | lol |
| 03:54.18 | rkroetch | Ooh, it has a few issues... like if you run it too fast... it likes to magically eat parts of your kdesktoprc... I really should have it output to a temp file and then mv it over kdesktoprc... oh well |
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| 03:54.47 | rkroetch | I blame it on this line... `sed -e "s/Color1.*/$parsed1/" /home/user/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc | sed -e "s/Color2.*/$parsed2/" > /home/user/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc` |
| 03:55.09 | scrooge | lol :S |
| 03:56.44 | rkroetch | sed is fun |
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| 03:58.43 | rkroetch | commander_robot: any relation to cmdtaco? ;) |
| 03:58.47 | rkroetch | If so... DUPE! |
| 03:58.53 | scrooge | lol |
| 03:58.55 | commander_robot | Hehe. None at all. |
| 03:59.32 | rkroetch | Ahh... slashdot readers here I see |
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| 04:00.36 | commander_robot | A lot of people do read slashdot... I imagine the intersection between the set of people who read slashdot and those who use kde is siginificant. |
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| 04:01.58 | rkroetch | I would assume so |
| 04:02.06 | rkroetch | Finally ... RoboShark! |
| 04:02.09 | rkroetch | Hmm dear |
| 04:05.49 | gcbirzan | Ugh. |
| 04:06.17 | gcbirzan | I'm trapped between incredibly hard to configure superkaramba and memory leaking gDesklets. |
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| 04:08.15 | rkroetch | gcbirzan: Go windows! There is no way to do any of the things those programs provide! So no worries! AAND if you take advantage of Windows ME, you get all the memory leaks you could ever want |
| 04:08.45 | eisregen | damn ... konqi crashes when filesize-view is active and still at work and you do for example delete a file ... it works everytime ... |
| 04:09.13 | eisregen | also when doing renaming in a directory and refershing konqi also crashes (though not everytime but very often) |
| 04:09.17 | rkroetch | eisregen: file a bug report if there isn't one already |
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| 04:12.23 | gcbirzan | Actually, I have to figure out why my computer just shut down a while back. |
| 04:12.28 | gcbirzan | And won't start, that is. |
| 04:15.16 | rkroetch | gcbirzan: My recommendation would be power supply failure |
| 04:15.20 | rkroetch | Do you get any lights on the board? |
| 04:15.25 | rkroetch | Fans starting? |
| 04:15.27 | rkroetch | BIOS? |
| 04:15.36 | gcbirzan | For a moment, the fans start. |
| 04:16.24 | rkroetch | Ok, check to make sure your RAM is seated properly (make sure you don't void a warranty if you have one) -- It's very doubtful your CPU would become unseated so I wouldn't risk/bother checking that |
| 04:16.40 | rkroetch | I've had RAM come unseated before |
| 04:16.45 | gcbirzan | I've taken out RAM and CPU |
| 04:17.03 | rkroetch | Hmm, remove all IDE drives / cables etc? |
| 04:17.35 | tek | sounds more like powersupply |
| 04:17.50 | rkroetch | Make sure ATA power cable is well seated and has good-looking connections, make sure there aren't any loose screwes sitting on your mobo as well, I had a random turn-on-computer instance with a loose screw on a mobo |
| 04:17.57 | tek | unable to regulate and it shuts itself down |
| 04:18.07 | rkroetch | tek: I agree, but other tests are pretty easy to do :) |
| 04:19.35 | gcbirzan | Yeah. |
| 04:19.50 | gcbirzan | I was thinking PSU too, but that involves opening up another computer. :-P |
| 04:20.21 | rkroetch | And loose screws can cause havok... it was a very painful debug to have the computer turn on at random intervals.... |
| 04:20.31 | rkroetch | Without the switch being pushed.... |
| 04:22.22 | tek | lol, yeah i had a reset button that had gotten pushed in and pushed over so it did not return out of its closed position. lost hair on that one. |
| 04:24.16 | gcbirzan | And this is why I hate hardware. :-P |
| 04:24.29 | tek | swapped out a lot of shit before i realized what was really going on, that was in a really nice anodized aircraft aluminium chilli case. never suspected the case hardware as it was so nice. |
| 04:25.33 | rkroetch | Mmm Chili.... |
| 04:28.37 | gcbirzan | Heh. |
| 04:29.13 | mattr | night |
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| 04:29.38 | rkroetch | Night |
| 04:29.41 | rkroetch | Night for me too |
| 04:29.43 | rkroetch | Have fun ya'll |
| 04:29.44 | MrGrim | first thing I ever check is the on/off and reset buttons :P |
| 04:29.45 | gcbirzan | I'm not extraordinarely bright. I put the new PSU in, turned it on, then stared for about half a second at the CPU fan before jumping to unplug it as it wasn't turning :-P |
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| 04:30.05 | MrGrim | ouch |
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| 04:30.25 | MrGrim | fortunately all my failing cpu fans have made noises before failure :P |
| 04:31.14 | slayerbob | heh |
| 04:31.39 | gcbirzan | By failing you mean not plugged in? :-P |
| 04:31.40 | slayerbob | i have had customers who thought that their pc was dying because of the horrible noise but then assumed that it had fixed itself when the noise went away :P |
| 04:31.56 | gcbirzan | Though, this case annoys me. I have to take the CPU fan out to take out the PSU |
| 04:31.59 | slayerbob | and of course then the hardware that the fan was cooling would die shortly thereafter :P |
| 04:32.05 | MrGrim | slayerbob: lol |
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| 05:01.24 | lunitik | ~tell root about root |
| 05:02.08 | scrooge | r00t!? |
| 05:02.10 | scrooge | where!? |
| 05:02.16 | scrooge | *burrrrrp* scuse me ^_^ |
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| 05:03.06 | lunitik | scrooge: different channel... but I can't be asked to type that much to a moron ;) |
| 05:03.49 | scrooge | good thing i didnt ask ^_^ |
| 05:03.51 | scrooge | i think |
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| 05:05.02 | marcusU | People are all grumpy and mean online tonight. |
| 05:05.03 | Colossus | Hey, guys ... I installed KDEbase, but that doesn't have screensavers on it. Anybody know what package has them? |
| 05:05.54 | scrooge | kdegraphics |
| 05:05.58 | scrooge | iirc |
| 05:06.23 | xuesheng | kdeartwork? |
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| 05:06.32 | scrooge | or that |
| 05:06.37 | scrooge | blahh i use xscreensavers :) |
| 05:06.51 | Colossus | ah, thanks. |
| 05:07.30 | marcusU | I don't suppose that there's a cross-reference for the channels on freenode. |
| 05:07.39 | scrooge | ? |
| 05:07.46 | lunitik | marcusU: /list |
| 05:08.02 | marcusU | Uh, that's not very practical. |
| 05:08.09 | scrooge | lol |
| 05:08.15 | scrooge | xchat's channel list :P |
| 05:08.18 | scrooge | sort |
| 05:08.43 | scrooge | haha i made xeyes eyeballs look like a total doofus |
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| 05:08.44 | scrooge | ^_^ |
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| 05:09.25 | scrooge | there should be a setting for making the menus transparent |
| 05:09.26 | scrooge | :/ |
| 05:09.33 | marcusU | Normal menus? |
| 05:10.25 | marcusU | I might vary based on widget style, but there's an option for translucent windows in mine. |
| 05:11.55 | scrooge | right |
| 05:12.03 | scrooge | but not the real kind right? |
| 05:12.06 | marcusU | Real? |
| 05:12.14 | scrooge | the real transparency is only in translucency settings |
| 05:12.16 | scrooge | yes...real |
| 05:12.16 | scrooge | lol |
| 05:12.26 | scrooge | as in not fake, actual see-thru windows |
| 05:12.33 | scrooge | stuff scrolls begind it, etc |
| 05:12.34 | marcusU | I don't know. I don't have transparency. |
| 05:12.38 | scrooge | oh |
| 05:12.47 | scrooge | ancient xorg and kde version? :s |
| 05:12.55 | marcusU | No. I'm not using Xorg. |
| 05:13.03 | scrooge | ahh thats why |
| 05:13.04 | scrooge | k |
| 05:13.06 | scrooge | lol :P |
| 05:13.22 | marcusU | I decided against the 3 hour download. |
| 05:13.33 | Colossus | Only transparency I've ever seen was from GNOME stuff, and that just shows the background. |
| 05:13.36 | marcusU | I really don't need it, and I'm worried it would screw up other things. |
| 05:13.41 | Colossus | Doesn't show the desktop. Shows the BACKGROUND. |
| 05:13.48 | Colossus | Sometimes even if you /change/ the background |
| 05:14.05 | scrooge | Colossus, xorg-6.8.2 + kde-3.4.0 |
| 05:14.07 | scrooge | + nvidia |
| 05:14.13 | scrooge | == OMG uberness |
| 05:14.18 | marcusU | Transparency seems useless. Something for people to get excited about for no reason. Utterly useless. |
| 05:14.19 | scrooge | real transparency |
| 05:14.23 | Colossus | I'm not sure what's on this laptop... |
| 05:14.26 | scrooge | marcusU, to u |
| 05:14.27 | scrooge | pfft |
| 05:14.28 | Colossus | I think it's got current xorg |
| 05:14.39 | Colossus | (Not sure of the vid card, though) |
| 05:14.43 | scrooge | gotta add in an Extension section to xorg.conf |
| 05:14.46 | Colossus | My desktop has an ATI Radeon 9000. |
| 05:14.46 | scrooge | lol |
| 05:14.53 | scrooge | gahhh |
| 05:15.01 | scrooge | i have ati mobility 9200 |
| 05:15.04 | scrooge | omg i wanna cry |
| 05:15.10 | scrooge | compositing dont work with it AT ALLLLL |
| 05:15.20 | marcusU | I haven't had a crying spell in a while. |
| 05:15.28 | scrooge | a wahhhhh? |
| 05:15.45 | scrooge | shit, my hardware can handle it |
| 05:15.49 | scrooge | might as well :D |
| 05:15.59 | Colossus | So ... where do you get xscreensavers? |
| 05:16.01 | scrooge | marcusU, are u like anti-mouse also? |
| 05:16.04 | Colossus | and how do you configure it? |
| 05:16.05 | marcusU | I just want a nice crisp display that can show DVDs nicely. |
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| 05:17.00 | scrooge | awesome |
| 05:17.01 | scrooge | WTF |
| 05:17.19 | lunitik | Colossus: I get it via 'apt-get install xscreensaver' ... thats not necissarily useful to you though :P |
| 05:17.24 | Colossus | ... |
| 05:17.29 | Colossus | oh, it'd be this RPM |
| 05:17.31 | scrooge | lol |
| 05:17.31 | Colossus | right here |
| 05:17.36 | Colossus | that says "xscreensaver" |
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| 05:19.19 | Colossus | Ah, it's already installed. |
| 05:19.26 | Colossus | Any idea how to configure it? |
| 05:19.42 | scrooge | right click on desktop |
| 05:19.47 | scrooge | configre desktop |
| 05:19.49 | scrooge | screensavers |
| 05:19.57 | scrooge | or look in kmenu |
| 05:19.59 | scrooge | under |
| 05:21.24 | Colossus | None of the other screensavers are showing up |
| 05:21.52 | scrooge | hmm |
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| 05:25.25 | jcook | anynone know where the "Global Keyboard Shortcuts" are stored? |
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| 05:34.16 | lunitik | jcook: KControl > Regional & Accesability > Keyboary Shortcuts ... |
| 05:34.25 | lunitik | Pretty retarded place to put it though if you ask me... |
| 05:34.32 | jcook | lunitik: i meant the text file |
| 05:34.35 | jcook | I found it |
| 05:35.08 | lunitik | jcook: bah |
| 05:35.10 | jcook | but now I need to find out what Win+> is suppose to be ... eg Win+< = "Win+Greater" |
| 05:35.32 | jcook | I tried "Win+Lesser" but that didn't seem to make any difference |
| 05:35.33 | lunitik | jcook: the key with the windows logo on it... |
| 05:35.56 | jcook | who cares ... .. its the Meta key |
| 05:36.28 | jcook | the kcontrol module interperates Win+< as Win+> |
| 05:36.53 | jcook | and no ... Win+> doesnt come out as Win+< |
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| 06:05.14 | sredna | Hello |
| 06:06.44 | scrooge | HI! |
| 06:08.07 | gcbirzan | Hm. |
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| 06:10.48 | gcbirzan | What can be wrong if KDE startup stalls at "Starting interprocess communication" then prints "Could not read network connection list\n/home/gcbirzan/.DCOPserver_meteor__0\nMake sure dcopserver is running"? |
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| 06:14.19 | sredna | gcbirzan: Try removing any filed ~/.DCOP* and ~/.ICE* and restart KDE |
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| 06:15.26 | Octane | I have KMail as my default email client in Component Chooser, but Firefox still loads thunderbird when I click on an email |
| 06:15.28 | Octane | any idea how to chagne this? |
| 06:15.55 | scrooge | about:config in firefox maybe? |
| 06:16.16 | gcbirzan | sredna: Yeah, fixed it, thanks! I'd done that with .DCOP, I was reading the output of dcopserver when trying to start KDE and zeroing on that, heh. |
| 06:16.27 | sredna | gcbirzan: Good :) |
| 06:16.40 | Octane | sredna, nope nothing there for mail client |
| 06:17.25 | gcbirzan | Octane: You need an extension. |
| 06:17.27 | sredna | Octane: Maybe there is a #firefox channels where someone knoows. Moxilla probably have a command that yuou need to put in the config javascript file |
| 06:17.38 | Octane | gcbirzan, an extension?? |
| 06:17.42 | scrooge | irc.mozilla.org/firefox exists |
| 06:17.43 | Octane | to change the email client? |
| 06:17.44 | scrooge | :D |
| 06:17.49 | Octane | scrooge, i know im in there too :D |
| 06:17.55 | scrooge | Octane, yea like a "extra prefences" extension |
| 06:17.58 | scrooge | :P |
| 06:19.16 | gcbirzan | Octane: I think you need it to associate it with something, but I wouldn't know since I never install Thunderbird. |
| 06:19.30 | gcbirzan | Plus, firefox is segfaulting on me. :-P |
| 06:19.47 | Octane | booo |
| 06:21.15 | Octane | mconnor Octane: yes, set whatever in the GNOME mime service/control center |
| 06:21.15 | Octane | Octane mconnor, ah ha! |
| 06:22.29 | gcbirzan | http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/mozex |
| 06:24.19 | Octane | gcbirzan, thansk for the link, but i dont think that would help -- its a very old extension and may not be comptabile |
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| 06:26.51 | Octane | got it |
| 06:27.04 | Octane | one has to run "gnome-default-applicatios-properties" |
| 06:28.26 | Octane | nice. |
| 06:28.31 | Octane | thanks for all your help gents |
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| 06:30.41 | kendrick | kinda works! |
| 06:31.10 | kendrick | it freaks out javascript a bit, for a while |
| 06:31.42 | Octane | works with firfox w/o a problem ;X |
| 06:31.58 | kendrick | yeah, i know |
| 06:32.24 | kendrick | i upgraded to kde 3.4 the other day, and it looks like google maps works with safari, so i thought i'd try it ;) |
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| 06:38.14 | Octane | whenever I go to Devices in my Nav Panel I get the error "protoctol not supported devices" |
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| 06:39.48 | sredna | Octane: Try Media:/ |
| 06:40.02 | sredna | Lower, media:/ |
| 06:40.08 | Octane | yes that works |
| 06:40.13 | Octane | (uppercase works too btw) |
| 06:40.33 | sredna | Ok, thanks :) |
| 06:40.34 | Octane | should I chagne the URL to media:/ instead of devices:/ ? |
| 06:41.34 | sredna | If you have a link to devices:/ it is invalid afaik |
| 06:42.41 | Octane | sredna, youre alwasy very helpful thank you |
| 06:42.50 | sredna | Npp :) |
| 06:44.31 | Octane | have a good day |
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| 07:27.53 | katya | strange to have a channel with over a hundred people, and no talkers :p |
| 07:28.05 | kendrick | ssh! |
| 07:28.22 | katya | rsync! |
| 07:28.25 | kendrick | heh |
| 07:28.26 | kendrick | shhhh :) |
| 07:28.40 | katya | #!/bin/sh! |
| 07:28.56 | katya | i'm so impatient! |
| 07:29.05 | katya | why does ebay take so long on the auctions... |
| 07:29.34 | katya | like, somebody thinks since nobody's bidding on their boogers at a $200 starting price, they should just extend the auction |
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| 07:33.57 | slayerbob | katya: lots of people talk in here |
| 07:34.05 | slayerbob | but sometimes we just soak up the ambience |
| 07:34.39 | kendrick | heh |
| 07:34.52 | katya | of join/parts :p |
| 07:35.15 | slayerbob | oh there is ambience, but if you are not a regular you probably won't see it |
| 07:35.47 | kendrick | it's in between the commas |
| 07:36.02 | slayerbob | yup |
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| 08:08.26 | slayerbob | heh |
| 08:08.28 | slayerbob | hiya lauri |
| 08:08.36 | slayerbob | why purple ? |
| 08:08.43 | lauri | hi :) |
| 08:08.51 | lauri | because that's what colour the joins and parts are |
| 08:09.03 | slayerbob | ah :P |
| 08:09.17 | slayerbob | here they are green and reddy brown |
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| 08:10.31 | slayerbob | so how is sweden today ? |
| 08:11.23 | lauri | busy |
| 08:11.24 | lauri | I have to work |
| 08:11.34 | lauri | sad, innit |
| 08:11.37 | slayerbob | heh |
| 08:11.40 | slayerbob | wish i did :( |
| 08:11.47 | slayerbob | well... i do... but there is vodka here :P |
| 08:11.57 | slayerbob | watching a crap movie atm |
| 08:12.13 | slayerbob | i think it would be unwatchable without the vodka |
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| 08:14.58 | katya | it's so late here :x |
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| 08:15.33 | slayerbob | yeah it is late here too |
| 08:17.00 | lauri | slayerbob: I can give you work |
| 08:17.21 | slayerbob | ooooh work |
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| 08:17.39 | slayerbob | but i am drunkenly watching people being stabbed in the back |
| 08:17.43 | slayerbob | with pikes :| |
| 08:18.08 | lauri | well, that sounds like a useful skill for working here |
| 08:18.16 | lauri | can you bring your own pike? |
| 08:18.22 | slayerbob | heh |
| 08:18.33 | slayerbob | i would not use such a primitive weapon |
| 08:19.04 | lauri | well, foreigners aren't allowed to bring sniper rifles into the country |
| 08:19.06 | lauri | so your choices are limited |
| 08:19.10 | slayerbob | heh |
| 08:19.17 | slayerbob | sniper rifles are just as primitive as pikes |
| 08:20.00 | lauri | well, hurry up and tell me what's modern, so I can go work without the suspense dragging me back here? |
| 08:20.07 | slayerbob | heh |
| 08:20.22 | slayerbob | sociological weapons are the only ones worth using :) |
| 08:20.56 | lauri | bah |
| 08:21.00 | lauri | no blood, and far too slow |
| 08:21.04 | slayerbob | heh |
| 08:21.08 | lauri | bring a pike |
| 08:21.09 | slayerbob | but far more effective :P |
| 08:21.09 | katya | credit. |
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| 08:21.28 | lauri | less immediately gratifying |
| 08:21.30 | lauri | I have a short attention span |
| 08:21.34 | slayerbob | on the other hand, stabbing someone in the back with a pike has a certain elegance to it :P |
| 08:22.05 | lauri | indeed, it's got the whole 'classic, well tested' thing going on |
| 08:22.05 | slayerbob | wow thefish survived that comment without leaving immediately |
| 08:22.11 | slayerbob | lauri: yuppers :P |
| 08:22.13 | lauri | also |
| 08:22.37 | thefish | slayerbob, im all killed out, just flushed the last limb down the neighbors toilet |
| 08:22.44 | lauri | ok, and because you are drunk, I just want to check |
| 08:22.51 | lauri | we're talking about the sharp pointy kind of pike, not the thefish kind |
| 08:23.06 | katya | fish! :D |
| 08:23.11 | lauri | although one of those, frozen, would make a pretty good club |
| 08:23.14 | slayerbob | yuppers the sharp pointy type |
| 08:23.20 | lauri | also, dinner |
| 08:23.28 | thefish | and you could eat it afterwards, thus eliminating the evidence |
| 08:23.33 | slayerbob | although there was a classic ep of south park recently with a woman doing a pike impersonation |
| 08:23.54 | slayerbob | thefish: there would still be the bones |
| 08:24.11 | lauri | ok, once you get to south park, I manage to find the motivation to leave and go be gainfully employed |
| 08:24.18 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 08:24.51 | thefish | ooh new south park series in uk - still not seen it tho |
| 08:24.55 | lauri | so I'll toss a bottle of vodka on ice for you, and pick you up in ... hmm, about 35 hours, I make it |
| 08:25.02 | slayerbob | :P |
| 08:25.05 | slayerbob | mmmm vodka |
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| 08:25.47 | lauri | (31 for the flight, last time I did it, you'll need a couple to get packed, get to auckland, and a couple more to nicely wrap the pike so you can check it in your luggage |
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| 08:25.50 | lauri | ) |
| 08:25.58 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 08:26.02 | marcusU | Oh, I found the answer. |
| 08:26.04 | slayerbob | lispies ? |
| 08:26.12 | lauri | ))))))))) a bunch they can save up for later |
| 08:26.25 | slayerbob | what is a lispie ? |
| 08:26.26 | lauri | (you (know (the) scheme and lisp) programmers) |
| 08:26.40 | slayerbob | lauri: nope i do not believe that such things exist :) |
| 08:26.42 | lauri | wahhh, stop distracting me |
| 08:26.47 | slayerbob | dammit this movie has crap scenery |
| 08:27.01 | slayerbob | it's like they are just using cg for the scenery or something :S |
| 08:27.06 | marcusU | slayerbob: You watch pr0n for the scenary? |
| 08:27.27 | slayerbob | marcusU: even drunk i cannot be bothered with porn |
| 08:27.33 | slayerbob | just don't see the point |
| 08:27.57 | marcusU | It's an alternative to actual sexual activity. People who are ugly like me can't get sex with real people. |
| 08:28.08 | lauri | when I get back |
| 08:28.16 | lauri | I will find you canllaith's ode to lisp again |
| 08:28.21 | slayerbob | marcusU: ok i am not an op here but that was probably not suitable for the official kde support channel... |
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| 08:28.29 | slayerbob | lauri: oh cool :) |
| 08:28.33 | slayerbob | i shall look forward to it |
| 08:28.50 | marcusU | slayerbob: Whatever |
| 08:28.58 | lauri | slayerbob: riiiight |
| 08:29.12 | lauri | while the conversation about you coming over to go postal on my co-workers with a pike, is entirely suitable |
| 08:29.33 | slayerbob | lauri: well you know... death and mayhem... :P |
| 08:29.57 | slayerbob | i guess i have just spent too much time amongst palmerstonians |
| 08:30.13 | marcusU | What is a palmerstonian? |
| 08:30.18 | lauri | that'd do it, probably |
| 08:30.22 | lauri | ok, I am *really* going |
| 08:30.28 | slayerbob | marcusU: you would have to have been there :P |
| 08:30.30 | lauri | right |
| 08:30.32 | lauri | now |
| 08:30.39 | slayerbob | ok have fun at work lauri :) |
| 08:32.05 | slayerbob | awww |
| 08:32.07 | slayerbob | :( |
| 08:32.10 | slayerbob | what you kicking me for ? |
| 08:32.16 | marcusU | Cuz you're mean to me. |
| 08:32.20 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 08:32.24 | slayerbob | i was mean to you like once |
| 08:32.26 | slayerbob | maybe twice :P |
| 08:32.39 | slayerbob | that's nothing compared to how often i am usually mean to people on irc :P |
| 08:33.04 | marcusU | I don't need anyone to be mean to me. I'm mean enough to myself. |
| 08:33.13 | slayerbob | good-o :P |
| 08:33.25 | marcusU | But I haven't cut myself in a few months. |
| 08:33.29 | slayerbob | :D |
| 08:33.50 | katya | if you like to bleed.... |
| 08:33.56 | katya | just get a sex change |
| 08:34.06 | marcusU | katya: I do not want to be a woman. |
| 08:34.18 | katya | neither do i, but we take what we get |
| 08:34.48 | slayerbob | although apparently they are government-funded here now :P |
| 08:34.52 | slayerbob | i have no idea why :S |
| 08:34.53 | katya | :O |
| 08:34.56 | marcusU | The idea is that some people seem as though they have the wrong sex organs. |
| 08:35.07 | slayerbob | bizarre |
| 08:35.11 | katya | i've met a few, marcusU |
| 08:35.13 | marcusU | I mean that in a totally objective way. |
| 08:35.22 | katya | some don't deserve any at all |
| 08:35.36 | marcusU | For all practical purpose, I'm asexual. |
| 08:35.41 | slayerbob | ok we are probably getting off topic again here... let's get back to killing people with pikes :P |
| 08:36.13 | marcusU | I used to think about killing myself more often. |
| 08:36.51 | slayerbob | so things are looking up in recent times marcusU ? :P |
| 08:37.03 | katya | slayerbob: seems he found KDE :D |
| 08:37.09 | slayerbob | :P |
| 08:37.09 | marcusU | I do not know. My therapist thinks I'm doing better. |
| 08:37.25 | slayerbob | well that has to be a good thing :P |
| 08:37.32 | marcusU | katya: When I started using KDE, I was looking forward to the 2.0 release. |
| 08:38.54 | slayerbob | hmmm this movie has suddenly gone all monty python |
| 08:39.18 | slayerbob | although they have had fake english accents throughout |
| 08:39.48 | katya | troy? |
| 08:39.56 | slayerbob | nah alexander |
| 08:40.05 | katya | meh... same thing |
| 08:40.06 | katya | troy is like that |
| 08:40.06 | slayerbob | it sucks |
| 08:40.19 | slayerbob | i think i would have stopped it already if i was not drunk :P |
| 08:40.23 | katya | it's greece, they're american, and they're speaking in brit! |
| 08:40.29 | slayerbob | yup |
| 08:40.33 | slayerbob | that's pretty much it |
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| 08:41.52 | slayerbob | and the funny thing is that fake british accents are really obvious to everyone except for the americans :P |
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| 08:43.22 | katya | :P |
| 08:43.43 | StevenR | when i start up konversation, it joins several channels for me. But it doesn't keep the size of the nicklist to the size i set it to last time I ran the app. It keeps making the nicklist half the screen in size. How do I stop this behaviour? |
| 08:46.04 | katya | that drove me nuts too :( |
| 08:46.47 | markey | ugh, kvirc |
| 08:46.48 | markey | nasty :) |
| 08:47.46 | katya | :p |
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| 08:48.20 | Enforcer_JB | Hi everybody |
| 08:48.26 | slayerbob | g'day Enforcer_JB |
| 08:49.00 | Enforcer_JB | I'm having problems using cut&paste in KDE 3.4 ... everytime I select something with the mouse the cursor freezes for some seconds. is this a known bug? I didn't have it in 3.3.x |
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| 08:49.21 | Enforcer_JB | this is especially annoying in web forms like on wikipedia where you use a lot of cut&paste |
| 08:49.36 | slayerbob | Enforcer_JB: how fast is your cpu ? |
| 08:49.43 | Enforcer_JB | 1.8GHz, 512MB RAM |
| 08:49.53 | slayerbob | hmmm |
| 08:50.04 | slayerbob | i get a slight effect like that on my 500MHz p3 |
| 08:50.15 | slayerbob | but nothing at all like that on anything over 1GHz |
| 08:50.49 | Enforcer_JB | I wonder because during this effect (~5-10sec) the CPU useage is at 0% |
| 08:50.55 | slayerbob | weird |
| 08:50.55 | Enforcer_JB | it just stays frozen |
| 08:50.59 | katya | hmmm... maybe klipper? |
| 08:51.03 | Enforcer_JB | and its 100% reproducable |
| 08:51.07 | Enforcer_JB | I'll check .. wait |
| 08:51.09 | katya | does it happen in anything outside of kde? |
| 08:51.50 | Enforcer_JB | no, it's not klipper. it freezes without klipper too |
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| 08:52.12 | Enforcer_JB | the strange thing is, after the freeze the selected text is automagically unselected again |
| 08:52.35 | katya | seems like something is trying to intelligently interpret it :x |
| 08:53.06 | Enforcer_JB | and it only happens reproducably in <textarea>s ... only sometimes in single line fields like the location field in konq |
| 08:53.27 | katya | maybe ispell/aspell then... :/ |
| 08:53.47 | katya | sorry, never had that happen so... i can't give you a direct answer |
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| 08:55.10 | Enforcer_JB | not outside KDE at all - at least not in firefox |
| 08:55.52 | katya | which KDE/Konq versions? |
| 08:55.53 | Enforcer_JB | if I disable the spellcheck in the context menu it freezes too |
| 08:56.08 | Enforcer_JB | katya, KDE 3.4.0, as above - SuSE RPMs for suse 9.2 |
| 08:56.24 | Enforcer_JB | it did not happen with 3.3.x or 3.2.x I used |
| 08:56.26 | katya | well it's not just konqueror though, is it? |
| 08:57.02 | Enforcer_JB | which other app with a multiline edit field can I check? |
| 08:57.11 | katya | kedit / kate |
| 08:57.19 | katya | different widget though i suppose |
| 08:58.03 | Enforcer_JB | all OK in kate |
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| 08:58.26 | Enforcer_JB | I guess it's just konq |
| 08:58.37 | Enforcer_JB | due to lack of contradictory evidence ;-) |
| 08:58.40 | katya | well, my Best Guess(tm) is a bad build, or just some fiddled libraries |
| 08:59.02 | Enforcer_JB | I'll ask in #suse ... maybe the problem is known |
| 08:59.08 | katya | it works for me though, no issues... at least, none i've noticed, and i'd notice 5-10secs :P |
| 08:59.10 | katya | alright, good luck |
| 08:59.18 | slayerbob | well konqueror is pretty slow here - have never seen it slow on anything over 1GHz though... |
| 08:59.58 | Enforcer_JB | it's quite fast here, only when I use copy&paste it freezes solid(the whole app) for ~5s |
| 09:00.24 | katya | cpu MHz: 1984.898 <- :D |
| 09:00.28 | katya | a good year... |
| 09:00.33 | katya | the year MS took over! |
| 09:00.40 | katya | just like that book said! |
| 09:00.55 | katya | well, g'night all |
| 09:01.12 | Enforcer_JB | are you in australia? :) |
| 09:04.38 | gcbirzan | Hm. How do I associate, say, Win+D, to minimizing all windows? |
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| 09:06.17 | Favorit | r-e |
| 09:06.45 | Favorit | anyone knows any good stock exchange rates monitors for KDE? |
| 09:07.15 | gcbirzan | Maybe something with RSS? |
| 09:07.41 | Favorit | well, would be nice to have something as an applet or so.. |
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| 09:13.30 | Favorit | ah well :) |
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| 09:18.29 | lstep | hello, is there someone that is "ebuild fluent"? I'm trying to make an ebuild (http://pastebin.ca/8917) but the downloadable file is of the form "http://basket.kde.org/downloads/?file=${P}.tar.gz", so when ebuild downloads it, it saves it as "index.html?file=basket-0.5.0.tar.gz". How do I correct this? |
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| 09:29.52 | Xeon3D | While trying to compile something I got this error: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! <- what package do I need? |
| 09:30.01 | acid | how do i go about telling kde not use to artsd |
| 09:30.03 | canllaith | x11-devel |
| 09:30.12 | canllaith | (or something similarly named) |
| 09:30.15 | Xeon3D | canllaith, is that for X.org as well? |
| 09:31.02 | acid | i dont see that option |
| 09:32.05 | acid | found it |
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| 09:33.00 | Xeon3D | canllaith, found it.. it was x-dev (for X.org |
| 09:33.10 | canllaith | No, only for your distro. They all call it something different. |
| 09:33.29 | acid | when i try to change it to alsa, it causes it to crash |
| 09:33.34 | acid | what should i do? |
| 09:33.47 | Xeon3D | oopsiee. okie canllaith :D |
| 09:35.42 | PhilRod | acid: please be more specific - what option did you change to 'alsa'? |
| 09:36.24 | PhilRod | but the basic way to stop artsd being used is control center->sound & mm -> sound system -> "enable the sound system" |
| 09:36.30 | PhilRod | and disable that option |
| 09:36.57 | acid | in the kcontrol, i changed the sound system to alsa from auto detect |
| 09:37.06 | acid | everytime i change it it crashes |
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| 09:37.36 | PhilRod | then if you want system sounds, you'll need to go to control center->sound & mm->system notifications, and set an external program |
| 09:37.54 | PhilRod | the setting you're referring to just changes the output method that artsd uses |
| 09:38.12 | PhilRod | so if you're trying to not use artsd, it's not relevant |
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| 09:43.07 | acid | PhilRod: brb going to open irc from inside x |
| 09:43.51 | PhilRod | ok |
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| 09:44.26 | acid_ | philrod: ok back |
| 09:44.31 | acid_ | i dont get it |
| 09:44.40 | acid_ | ok i turn the sound system to external player |
| 09:45.22 | acid_ | still no worky :] whenever i try to select anything from the kcontrol panel., i select like alsa or ass instead of auto detect and it does a sig 11 and freezes |
| 09:46.10 | PhilRod | have you disabled the sound system? |
| 09:46.35 | acid_ | no |
| 09:46.55 | PhilRod | why not? I thought you wanted to disable artsd? |
| 09:47.00 | acid_ | ok it is disabled |
| 09:47.13 | PhilRod | check with "ps" that it isn't still running |
| 09:47.47 | acid_ | working now |
| 09:47.48 | acid_ | thansk |
| 09:47.51 | acid_ | thanks :] |
| 09:48.16 | acid_ | i can tell you really know your stuff, :] hehe |
| 09:48.34 | PhilRod | heh, it's just such a frequent question here :-) |
| 09:49.29 | PhilRod | anyway, arts is being retired, which will hopefully help with some of the problems that people seem to get |
| 09:50.19 | acid_ | ok one more question. I have never launched a java app from inside kde, if i wanted for example launch /home/acid/LimeWire/runLime.sh |
| 09:50.41 | acid_ | how would i go about adding that was a quick launch , i tryed several different ways, but it does not launch |
| 09:51.31 | acid_ | i can run it from terminal fine with ./home/acid/LimeWire/runLime.sh |
| 09:51.38 | PhilRod | do you just want an icon for it in the kicker panel? |
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| 09:52.25 | acid_ | yes |
| 09:53.50 | PhilRod | ok, right-click on the desktop, create new->link to application |
| 09:53.58 | PhilRod | and, well, it should be obvious from there |
| 09:54.02 | acid_ | doesnt work |
| 09:54.08 | PhilRod | then you can drag n drop it onto kicker |
| 09:55.16 | acid_ | just sits there for a sex |
| 09:55.18 | acid_ | sec* |
| 09:55.49 | PhilRod | freudian slip? |
| 09:56.02 | PhilRod | after putting "ass" for "oss", I think it may be |
| 09:56.06 | slayerbob | the keys are like right next to one another |
| 09:56.10 | slayerbob | heh |
| 09:56.21 | PhilRod | heh, they are too |
| 09:56.23 | acid_ | yea |
| 09:56.29 | slayerbob | ok "a" and "o" couldn't easily be further apart though :P |
| 09:56.47 | acid_ | x and c are right next to each other |
| 09:57.10 | PhilRod | obligatory bash.org quote: http://bash.org/?5300 |
| 09:57.14 | slayerbob | hrh |
| 09:57.17 | slayerbob | *heh |
| 09:57.33 | slayerbob | i think that the keys being next to one another was just a glitch |
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| 09:58.06 | acid_ | you guys think Limewire has the best results? |
| 09:58.19 | slayerbob | PhilRod: how often do you see me use the word "like" like that ? |
| 09:58.38 | slayerbob | acid_: define "best results" |
| 09:58.53 | acid_ | well i used to use gift, and i didnt get near the returns |
| 09:59.13 | PhilRod | slayerbob: heh, I'm obviously not sufficiently conversant with NZ English :-) |
| 09:59.20 | acid_ | i just started using limewire, and it really brings back results, but it is so damn slow, since it is java |
| 09:59.41 | slayerbob | PhilRod: we never use "like" like that :P |
| 10:00.05 | slayerbob | acid_: context is everything |
| 10:00.14 | acid_ | what do you mean? |
| 10:01.00 | slayerbob | well it would help if you told us what you were using limewire for... this being the official kde support channel i am sure you were not using it for the downloading of illegal materials so you really need to provide a little more information |
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| 10:04.23 | acid_ | hehe |
| 10:04.35 | acid_ | oh yea im using it to download music |
| 10:04.42 | acid_ | trance only |
| 10:04.43 | acid_ | :] |
| 10:04.50 | slayerbob | and of course none of us would ever suggest that you use something like apollon instead |
| 10:05.07 | xuesheng | or the stunning kmldonkey :p |
| 10:05.20 | acid_ | do they all use the same network? |
| 10:05.24 | slayerbob | no because that would be bad and we are all good here :) |
| 10:05.35 | slayerbob | acid_: who can tell about such things ? |
| 10:05.35 | acid_ | thats what im wondering |
| 10:05.45 | acid_ | oh well :] its cool |
| 10:05.50 | acid_ | thanks for your help guys |
| 10:05.51 | acid_ | l8ter |
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| 10:21.22 | deus | how can i add transparacny to the console |
| 10:22.36 | Slackman | deus: by configuring the konsole...its in the konfigure options =) |
| 10:22.55 | deus | aterm.conf? |
| 10:23.31 | Slackman | deus: are you using konsole? |
| 10:23.35 | Slackman | or aterm? |
| 10:24.05 | Slackman | if your using aterm, its not a kde component and as such you are unlikey to find anyone in #kde using aterm |
| 10:25.01 | deus | well blame the fluxbox guys they asked me to come here |
| 10:25.28 | PhilRod | ...although you should stil be able to set the transparency on its window with the kwin transparency stuff, as I understand it |
| 10:26.02 | PhilRod | but I haven't used transparency myself, so I don't really know |
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| 10:26.32 | christianp | hi all |
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| 10:26.57 | PhilRod | deus: but wait, you're using aterm in fluxbox and you were told to come to #kde?? |
| 10:27.00 | PhilRod | hi christianp |
| 10:27.06 | christianp | how can i set sounds for events with KDE? |
| 10:27.21 | Slackman | deus: if your using aterm try reading the docs on the aterm site....and i doubt #fluxbox would consider aterm to be a kde technology |
| 10:27.30 | christianp | When kde starts i hear no sound |
| 10:27.43 | PhilRod | christianp: kcontrol -> sound & mm -> system notifications |
| 10:27.55 | PhilRod | check they're switched on there. If not, read: |
| 10:27.58 | PhilRod | apt: artstr |
| 10:27.59 | apt | from memory, artstr is http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=aRts+Troubleshooting |
| 10:28.05 | PhilRod | hrm, don't read that |
| 10:28.14 | PhilRod | read the FAQ instead (see topic) |
| 10:29.04 | deus | PhilRod: uhm, yeah |
| 10:29.15 | PhilRod | apt: no, artstr is http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdebase/faq/sound.html |
| 10:29.16 | apt | PhilRod: okay |
| 10:29.39 | christianp | ok, tks |
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| 10:29.52 | lauri | deus: I think they were trying to be funny (and failing) |
| 10:30.08 | lauri | deus: (and feel free to tell them I said so) |
| 10:30.42 | PhilRod | failing miserably, no less |
| 10:31.38 | deus | lauri: probably |
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| 10:32.38 | willwork4foo | lo y'all. if I have a folder full of .tar.gz files, is there a quick and easy way of decompressing and untarring them all with one single command? |
| 10:33.15 | PhilRod | for i in *; do tar zxvf $i; done |
| 10:34.06 | willwork4foo | cool |
| 10:34.09 | willwork4foo | thanks PhilRod |
| 10:34.30 | PhilRod | "for i in *" is my way of handling every scripting task ever :-D |
| 10:34.48 | PhilRod | and the variable *must* be called "i", otherwise it's just not right :-) |
| 10:34.49 | willwork4foo | cool |
| 10:35.04 | willwork4foo | could it not be called "j" ? |
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| 10:35.07 | ritalin | hi |
| 10:35.31 | ritalin | does kde have a IDE for building gui applications like gnomes glade? |
| 10:35.51 | gcbirzan | PhilRod: find -print0 -maxdepth 1 | while read -d $'\0' i; do echo $i; done :-) |
| 10:35.54 | PhilRod | ritalin: qt designer or kommander |
| 10:36.10 | willwork4foo | aye aye. |
| 10:36.18 | ritalin | PhilRod ty |
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| 10:36.44 | PhilRod | gcbirzan: hehe - as long as the variable's called "i" :-) |
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| 10:37.05 | ritalin | is qt designer free? |
| 10:37.25 | PhilRod | yes, I think |
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| 10:37.55 | askie | willwork4foo: Fortran? :) |
| 10:38.29 | PhilRod | certainly free as in "no cost", probably, but possibly not free as in "complex fundamentalist rules for things being 'Free'" |
| 10:38.53 | iceman__ | ritalin: yup! |
| 10:39.03 | willwork4foo | askie: that's the badger. |
| 10:39.11 | willwork4foo | thanks for assisting my b0rked memory. |
| 10:40.14 | PhilRod | time to do some work |
| 10:40.34 | askie | Indeed. Time to get back to exams. |
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| 10:41.22 | dozer | how can I configure the notification dialog behavior? |
| 10:41.50 | iceman__ | just wondering here.. doest the death of the www.arts-project.org website mean no more arts? even for kde4? I thought we could still use it since it works quite well esp. with Akode, and there no replacement for tools like artsbuilder etc? |
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| 10:43.56 | dozer | I've found the system notification tab in the control center, |
| 10:44.09 | dozer | but would like to be able to trigger notification events from e.g. a shell script |
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| 10:44.54 | dozer | also, I'd like to be able to customise the location and appearance of the message box |
| 10:46.43 | willwork4foo | anyone here used SuperKaramba? |
| 10:47.26 | gcbirzan | Ugh. |
| 10:47.29 | gcbirzan | I tried doing it. |
| 10:47.35 | gcbirzan | It's incredibly hard to customize. |
| 10:47.46 | gcbirzan | As opposed to gDesklets, that is. |
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| 10:48.13 | gcbirzan | Which, yes, requires GNOME, but... *shrugs* |
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| 10:48.25 | willwork4foo | yeah. |
| 10:48.34 | willwork4foo | I think I'll stick with my GkrellM |
| 10:48.42 | willwork4foo | it's limited, but at least it works |
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| 10:49.21 | Xeon3D | erm... my KDE says that the composition manager (xcompmgr) is crashing and that it will be disabled for the session. How can I disable it forever? |
| 10:49.48 | scrooge | control center |
| 10:49.51 | scrooge | desktop |
| 10:49.54 | scrooge | window behavior |
| 10:50.01 | scrooge | translucency tab |
| 10:50.06 | gcbirzan | willwork4foo: So does gDesklets. |
| 10:50.06 | scrooge | untick checkbox |
| 10:50.24 | scrooge | gdesklets is a ram whore i heard |
| 10:51.30 | gcbirzan | If you don't run Nam T. Nguyen's Disk IO display, because that will start eating your RAM faster than anything I've seen leaking memory so far. |
| 10:51.51 | gcbirzan | It managed to use up ~1.3GiB of memory in about 2 minutes. |
| 10:52.49 | gcbirzan | scrooge: Eh, it's not so bad: 12124 gcbirzan 15 0 66212 29m 18m S 0.3 5.9 0:04.66 python |
| 10:53.14 | gcbirzan | Though, my version is pretty screwed up and only has a couple displays, heh, couldn't load the others. |
| 10:55.07 | gcbirzan | Well, no, it's a problem with displays, according to b.d.o. |
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| 11:05.12 | damjan | In konsole (kde-3.4) I don't know why, but CTRL-D stops working |
| 11:06.02 | damjan | I can't logout from local or ssh sessions, and I can't close programs that need CTRL-D (like an intercative python session) |
| 11:06.14 | scrooge | canllaith, ping? |
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| 11:06.33 | canllaith | ? |
| 11:06.46 | scrooge | :O hi :) |
| 11:06.52 | scrooge | the height thing u told me before |
| 11:06.55 | scrooge | for the tab height |
| 11:07.06 | scrooge | :/ |
| 11:07.41 | canllaith | tab height? |
| 11:07.45 | canllaith | Oh, the taskbar thing? |
| 11:07.48 | scrooge | ya :) |
| 11:09.16 | canllaith | ok |
| 11:09.31 | canllaith | ktaskbarrc |
| 11:09.33 | scrooge | aww crap. changing the KDE Sound System volume kills sounds |
| 11:09.38 | canllaith | under [General] |
| 11:09.56 | canllaith | MinimumButtonHeight=N |
| 11:09.59 | canllaith | height in pixels |
| 11:10.00 | canllaith | :) |
| 11:10.06 | scrooge | :D:D thanx again ^_^ |
| 11:10.18 | scrooge | ya :P |
| 11:12.58 | gcbirzan | damjan: Try Ctrl+Q, you're probably pressing Ctrl+S instead of D :-) |
| 11:13.12 | gcbirzan | Happens to me a lot when trying to press Ctrl+A (for screen) |
| 11:13.14 | scrooge | oh blahh. now quicklaunch wont keep 2 rows :S |
| 11:14.05 | scrooge | the icon size is set to 16., 2 rows makes 32, kicker is 34px and its single lining them :/ |
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| 11:15.37 | ubuntu | so |
| 11:15.53 | scrooge | lol |
| 11:15.54 | scrooge | nice |
| 11:18.57 | damjan | gcbirzan: no, that's not it |
| 11:19.19 | gcbirzan | What happens when you try it? |
| 11:20.13 | damjan | gcbirzan: CTRL-Q? nothing |
| 11:20.20 | gcbirzan | No, Ctrl+D |
| 11:20.26 | damjan | gcbirzan: nothing again |
| 11:20.49 | gcbirzan | damjan: Do you have anything on the current line? You need to be at the start of the line for that to work. |
| 11:21.27 | damjan | gcbirzan: I know that, there's nothing on the line |
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| 11:22.16 | damjan | gcbirzan: I've made a small python script to test it... CTRL-D doesn't even go to the app |
| 11:22.50 | gcbirzan | Hm, don't know, sorry. |
| 11:23.23 | damjan | gcbirzan: the problem is, ctrl-D works when I start konsole... but after some time it stops working |
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| 11:36.30 | sycofly | Renze .. |
| 11:36.39 | sycofly | hmmm |
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| 11:50.08 | atomik | hello |
| 11:50.55 | atomik | I have a lot of probem with spam filtering using kmail. I use bogofilter and the spam wizard to configure but I not detect spam....all e-mail I received is considered as spam... |
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| 11:52.25 | SchopfeR | hello |
| 11:52.34 | scrooge | hi |
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| 11:54.04 | eckhart | hi |
| 11:54.08 | scrooge | hi |
| 11:54.34 | eckhart | there is svg support in kde |
| 11:54.46 | eckhart | would you call the konqueror svg support "native" |
| 11:55.33 | eckhart | or is it more like a "plugin" |
| 11:56.15 | eckhart | at the moment, opera presents its new browser as "the first browser who natively supports svg" |
| 11:56.46 | dolphin | everything in KDE is less or more plugin |
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| 11:58.35 | scrooge | opera 8 is nice |
| 11:58.49 | eckhart | well, but then you could also say "konqueror is such a bad browser, it does not even have native support for jpeg" |
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| 11:59.08 | scrooge | lol |
| 11:59.14 | grepper | or text :) |
| 11:59.21 | scrooge | :P |
| 11:59.53 | scrooge | http://www.opera.com/features/svg/ |
| 11:59.54 | scrooge | 0.o |
| 12:00.01 | scrooge | not showing for me...hmm |
| 12:02.00 | grepper | scrooge: looks fine here |
| 12:02.30 | scrooge | u see the circles? |
| 12:02.34 | scrooge | i dont :/ |
| 12:02.34 | scrooge | wtf |
| 12:02.57 | dolphin | crashes here :) |
| 12:03.01 | scrooge | lol |
| 12:03.10 | scrooge | guess there claim is correct :P |
| 12:03.22 | grepper | konqueror 3.4.0 |
| 12:03.48 | dolphin | KDE: 3.4.0 Level "b" |
| 12:03.48 | dolphin | Konqueror: 3.4.0 |
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| 12:04.03 | grepper | level "b" ? |
| 12:05.10 | grepper | that's what you get when you buy "b" grade stuff |
| 12:06.11 | scrooge | lol |
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| 12:09.49 | chakie | hm, doesn't kmail apply filters to incoming mails? or have i just not checked some option |
| 12:10.18 | chakie | i always have to select new mails and "Apply all filters" to get them sorted |
| 12:10.59 | askie_ | chakie: Settings-Configure filters |
| 12:11.24 | askie_ | There's an Advanced options part "Apply this filter ..." |
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| 12:11.49 | eckhart | when has svg been introduced in kde releases? |
| 12:13.02 | chakie | askie_: yes, there is a "incoming messages", and it's checked. still it doesn't apply it |
| 12:14.27 | askie_ | Hmmm... |
| 12:15.44 | chakie | the filter (one only so far) works perfectly when applied manually, no problems there |
| 12:17.32 | askie_ | Then I'm out of ideas... |
| 12:20.46 | chakie | ok, thanks for the help though |
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| 12:22.10 | damjan | That SVG example page works great for me |
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| 12:24.30 | scrooge | 3.4 konqi? |
| 12:24.35 | scrooge | damjan, ^^ |
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| 12:27.45 | damjan | yes |
| 12:27.49 | scrooge | :O |
| 12:27.54 | scrooge | distro? |
| 12:28.10 | damjan | slackware-current |
| 12:28.31 | grepper | there you go, upgrade your kde to 3.4 :) |
| 12:28.33 | damjan | 10.1 missed kde-3.4 for a couple of weeks |
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| 12:30.08 | langenberg | KDM uses /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession, right? |
| 12:31.08 | damjan | langenberg: in slackware it uses /opt/kde/share/config/kdm/Xsession |
| 12:32.52 | langenberg | Ah, thanks. Maybe that will work better. |
| 12:35.04 | langenberg | brb |
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| 12:37.51 | langenberg | Ah that works fine damjan, thanks |
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| 12:39.08 | expose | How to disabple blinking icons next to the mouse when you start a app? i went to kcontrol -> Design (or whatever it is in engl. version) --> display Start activity |
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| 12:39.38 | expose | there i turned the pulldown menu to "off", or "dont display" |
| 12:39.44 | expose | which had no result... |
| 12:39.53 | langenberg | expose: restart KDE |
| 12:40.01 | expose | i see, thanks |
| 12:40.13 | langenberg | expose: I think it's a bug, I've noticed it couple days ago |
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| 12:42.11 | expose | did you report it? |
| 12:42.16 | expose | or check for a reportß |
| 12:43.07 | expose | (brb for restarting kde) |
| 12:43.10 | langenberg | expose: No, should I? |
| 12:43.11 | langenberg | k |
| 12:43.30 | langenberg | any KDE-dev around then? |
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| 12:44.43 | langenberg | expose: worked? |
| 12:44.45 | expose | okay, now it works...thanks again, and maybe report it. |
| 12:45.24 | langenberg | Yeah I remember KDE-3.3.2 doing the change emidiately. |
| 12:46.51 | quentin | hello! where are konqueror's bookmarks saved? |
| 12:48.12 | langenberg | quentin: I don't know, but maybe .kde/share/apps/something? |
| 12:48.55 | quentin | thx |
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| 12:57.23 | r00tsh3ll | morning guys |
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| 13:26.55 | r00tsh3ll | http://www.andamooka.org/index.pl?section=kde20devel -- is there a recent version of this book? |
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| 13:33.33 | AciD | where does korganiser (via kontact) store the calendar info (rendez-vous and more important the periodic info, which aren't exported in ical format) ? |
| 13:34.59 | Bille | AciD: $KDEHOME/share/apps/korganizer |
| 13:35.18 | AciD | thx |
| 13:35.37 | AciD | :) |
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| 13:41.17 | Blissex | Is this a bug? When I have the 'Application Launcher' in the Kicker, it never gets focus under KWin, so it is unusable. but if there is no window manager, or I use FVWM as the window manager, the 'Application Launcher' in the kicker gets focus... |
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| 13:49.59 | Sho__ | Any common reasony why k3b wouldn't recognize my DVD recorder as a DVD recorder, but only as a CD recorder? |
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| 13:52.06 | atomik | is there a "function" to resize images like with firefox. It's useful when the image is bigger than the screen. |
| 13:55.39 | Blissex | atomik: in my Konqueror that happens automagically... |
| 13:56.07 | Blissex | atomik: but for the case where the image is the whole thing. |
| 13:56.25 | AciD | ataxic > me too, try installing showimg |
| 13:56.40 | Cerulean | Sho__: #k3b? |
| 13:57.37 | atomik | AciD: it's not a default feature of konq...? |
| 13:57.55 | AciD | i don't know |
| 13:58.40 | Sho__ | Cerulean: I'm there (as you probably saw), but pretty much alone |
| 13:59.05 | Cerulean | Sho__: So it seems |
| 13:59.16 | Blissex | atomik: it is and it is not. Konqueror can delegate showing things to various sub-''components''. |
| 13:59.34 | Blissex | atomik: if you install ShowImg, it will delegate image display to it, and it does scaling by default. |
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| 13:59.54 | atomik | ok |
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| 14:01.04 | Blissex | atomik: in any case have have a look at the 'Control Centre's 'KDE Components' menu, it will show you just how flexible Konqueror is. |
| 14:01.38 | espen_ | how can access the dcop server as root using suid user |
| 14:02.29 | Blissex | espen_: no need to do anything special... Unless you are doing something funny. |
| 14:02.34 | espen_ | i want to control my mp3 player my hotkeys over the acpid |
| 14:03.07 | espen_ | if i do a "su - user -c "dcop" it returns command not found |
| 14:03.21 | quentin | hm, i've a problem since i've upgraded my suse |
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| 14:03.43 | quentin | i've backuped my configs, but kde4.3 does not seem to like them |
| 14:04.34 | quentin | kmail now asks on every start for the account passwords which i cannot save and every encoded message will require the entry of my passphrase which won't be rememberd either |
| 14:04.49 | quentin | it seems that kgpg is ok, but the rest is strange! |
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| 14:07.29 | Blissex | espen_: «command not found» is probably just because you haven't put the 'bin' directory where the KDE commands are kept in the 'PATH' of that user, in its ''profile'' or in a global profile. |
| 14:08.00 | Blissex | quentin: sometimes you have to delete the configs and recreate them from scratch. Howver... |
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| 14:08.18 | Blissex | quentin: check the configuration for 'kpasswordmanager' (IIRC the name). |
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| 14:08.57 | quentin | Blissex, yes, i selected the configs i copied, but its not plasant to reconfigure that stuff, pwds, accounts, keys,... |
| 14:09.26 | quentin | Blissex, kpasswordmanager? don't have! |
| 14:09.34 | espen_ | yes gto it working, thx |
| 14:09.50 | espen_ | nice :) |
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| 14:16.06 | Blissex | Is this a bug? When I have the 'Application Launcher' in the Kicker, it never gets kb focus under KWin, so it is unusable. but if there is no window manager, or I use FVWM as the window manager, the 'Application Launcher' in the Kicker gets kb focus... If not a bug, what config do I need to change? |
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| 14:23.24 | TinoW | hello. |
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| 14:37.08 | quentin | Blissex, can i keep my old config? will it be updated by kmail or remain old? if new features came with the new version, will they be saved? |
| 14:37.42 | Blissex | quentin: you can probably keep it, but perhaps some bits of it annoy the new version of the software. |
| 14:38.02 | Blissex | quentin: BTW, it was 'kpasswdmanager' and it is basically as the name indicates the KDE wallet manager. |
| 14:38.05 | caleb__ | is there an xplanet image of KDE developers similar to http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWorldWide somewhere? |
| 14:38.41 | quentin | Blissex, yes, kmail now wants to access the kwalletmgr, can i prevent it? i don't want to use it |
| 14:39.10 | Blissex | quentin: trouble is, the wallet manager is the right thing to use. |
| 14:39.33 | Blissex | caleb__: there are various group photographs of KDE developer meetings... usually on private sites. |
| 14:39.37 | quentin | no, it sucks that i've to enter my master-pw on every session |
| 14:39.49 | Blissex | quentin: that is better than the alternative... |
| 14:39.59 | quentin | no, i'm not paranoid! |
| 14:40.31 | Blissex | quentin: then i suspect, but I am far from sure, that you can config the wallet manager not to request a password, or use a default one you configure... |
| 14:40.46 | quentin | Blissex, and why do i always have to enter my passphrase when opening an encrypted mail? can't kmail remember my passphrase, at least for the session? |
| 14:41.27 | Blissex | quentin: that is dangerous, and probably that should be handled by Kleopatra or KGPG or whatever (cant remember the right names). |
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| 14:45.16 | quentin | Blissex, it's configured that the cache lasts 600 sec |
| 14:46.25 | quentin | what is meant with not to "grab" mouse and keybaord |
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| 14:47.31 | Blissex | quentin: a mouse/kb grab is a application that gets exclusive use of the X server. |
| 14:47.45 | Blissex | quentin: it is often needed in security cases. |
| 14:48.27 | quentin | Blissex, and what does it have to do with the kgpg-agent, Blissex ? |
| 14:48.55 | Blissex | quentin: probably it grabs the kb/mouse when prompting for the pass phrase. |
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| 14:49.15 | Blissex | quentin: to prevent other applications from reading the passphrase key events. |
| 14:49.39 | quentin | ok |
| 14:50.37 | quentin | another thing, kde 3.4 sorts a file or dir in the middle of a columnn if its name is too long, how can i change that? |
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| 14:54.39 | bruno- | anyone any idea why the ftp KIO slave doesn't shut down after it's job has finished? |
| 14:54.57 | Blissex | bruno-: optimization probably. |
| 14:55.52 | bruno- | doesn't seem to be very optimal to have 50 kio_ftp's running (even after the application has closed) if you do some KIO::stat's |
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| 14:56.14 | bruno- | and I get max user errors in my application |
| 14:56.19 | bruno- | leading to wrong results |
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| 14:56.53 | ^rob^ | hi |
| 14:57.03 | Blissex | quentin: as to «i'm not paranoid!» KDE is designed to support the worst case, because that's matters... And it is hard to do everything right, for example applications that read the private key into memory must lock themselves in memory to prevent the swapping out of that private key, and so on... |
| 14:57.37 | ^rob^ | did anyone succseeded to start gubed on quanta? - i have debian kde q33 - i can see quanta in debug - but it does not work |
| 14:57.48 | ^rob^ | i have even gubed php code |
| 14:57.53 | ^rob^ | still nothin' |
| 14:57.57 | ^rob^ | what am i missing? |
| 14:58.06 | do3cc | weird, my kontact just started to suck all my CPU cycles, but the whole system, and all components of kontact are still snappy and responsive |
| 14:58.19 | do3cc | any hint how I can find out whats going wild? |
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| 14:59.10 | TinoW | speaking of KIO... why does kate not recognize filetypes via mime from webdav? |
| 14:59.17 | quentin | yes, but i suppose you can imagine how it's annoying to enter for each encrypted mail your passphrase... |
| 15:00.01 | ^rob^ | gubed sux BIG |
| 15:00.08 | ^rob^ | quanta too :( |
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| 15:00.31 | Blissex | bruno-: it may also be that the FTP KIO slave does not realize the connection is closed. There are many cases, especially involving NAT, where the FIN pcket or something similar gets lost, and the connection becoms half dead until some longish timeout happens. |
| 15:00.44 | ^rob^ | and i suck too - coz i did not understand how the heck gubed+quanta+php can debug. |
| 15:01.02 | bruno- | Blissex: hmmm ... any way to solve this? |
| 15:01.16 | Blissex | quentin: yes, but that's why things like the wallet etc. have been invented, to centralize all such difficult issues. |
| 15:01.17 | ^rob^ | /server eu.undernet.org |
| 15:01.29 | ^rob^ | huh |
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| 15:01.49 | Blissex | bruno-: no idea, you are not saying anything identifiable except ''doesn't work'' :-) |
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| 15:02.30 | quentin | Blissex, but kwallet can't handle gpg-keys, and thats what disturbs me! the encrypted emails |
| 15:03.09 | TinoW | bruno-: maybe you use ethereal to debug whats going on |
| 15:03.12 | bruno- | bruno 2707 0.0 2.2 32972 11672 ? S 17:02 0:00 kdeinit: kio_ftp ftp /tmp/ksocket-bruno/klauncher5TJUEb.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-bruno/synKhronizenTJflb.slave-socket |
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| 15:03.29 | bruno- | and netstat gives a bunch of tcp 0 0 bagheera.foo:35112 web.webware.be:ftp TIME_WAIT |
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| 15:03.39 | manchot | I am stuck at kde splash screens. |
| 15:03.58 | manchot | it says 'initializing system services" and remains there forever, how to fix this problem? |
| 15:04.02 | TinoW | bruno-: I have no idea btw, why thy dont just give you ssh/sftp access |
| 15:04.05 | TinoW | they |
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| 15:04.15 | manchot | what system services does KDE want to initialize? |
| 15:04.25 | TinoW | manchot: rename/delete ~/.kde |
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| 15:05.53 | manchot | TinoW: yes, I renamed .kde into kde and it starts the wizard mode. |
| 15:06.11 | manchot | but again, in 'initilizaing stage' it freezes |
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| 15:09.15 | Tpo1 | who invented the polio vaccine? |
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| 15:13.08 | TinoW | Tpo1: Dr. Jonas Salk |
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| 15:18.46 | Tpo1 | thanks |
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| 15:45.13 | apow | ok before i panic |
| 15:45.33 | apow | can you guys tell me if there is a known bug in 3.4 that makes kontact nuke your inbox? |
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| 15:48.03 | Slackman | apow: panic some...my inbox is fine |
| 15:50.03 | PhilRod | apow: are you using dimap? |
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| 15:53.43 | PieD | I'd like to get the kdevelop sourcecode from HEAD : what is the svn command for that ? |
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| 15:55.35 | Flendor | Hallo. |
| 15:55.47 | PhilRod | hiya Flendor |
| 15:55.56 | Flendor | Hey there Phil, how's it going? |
| 15:56.40 | PhilRod | PieD: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/subversion/ |
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| 15:57.10 | apow | PhilRod: nope. |
| 15:57.37 | apow | my luck is that i'm dling my gmail thru pop, and even when i do so, mails remain in server |
| 15:57.44 | apow | so i'm recovering them now |
| 15:57.53 | PhilRod | Flendor: not so bad - need to do some uni work though. |
| 15:58.06 | TinoW | apow: while pop is the protocol which is especially designed for the opposite |
| 15:58.09 | apokryphos | apow: that option can be changed from gmail settings (though it's not necessary, with some 2 gig of space...) |
| 15:58.13 | apow | i had these 2 subfolders under inbox, in which i had my mails, both where nuked |
| 15:58.30 | apow | apokryphos: i dont want to, if i didnt have that i'd have lost all my mail |
| 15:58.45 | apokryphos | Yup :) |
| 15:58.57 | apow | TinoW: what does it have to do with the fact that kontact vaporized my folders? |
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| 15:59.15 | TinoW | apow: nothing at all I guess. |
| 15:59.23 | PieD | thanks PhilRod |
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| 16:00.48 | PieD | but I get this error : |
| 16:00.50 | PieD | pinaraf@ubuntu:~/tmp/kdevelop$ svn checkout https://svn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kdevelop |
| 16:00.50 | PieD | svn: URL 'https://svn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kdevelop' doesn't exist |
| 16:01.40 | PieD | what should i do ? |
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| 16:04.00 | PhilRod | maybe kdevelop hasn't reached svn yet - I guess you could try anoncvs |
| 16:05.46 | PieD | but when I try the CVS comand from kdevelop.org, it fails too :( (please wait a bit for the message) |
| 16:09.21 | langenberg | Can I get a split view in konqueror? |
| 16:09.48 | langenberg | So I don't have to launch Konqueror twice for copying files |
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| 16:11.13 | Bille | langenberg: right click on the status bar |
| 16:11.19 | Bille | langenberg: and your wish will be granted |
| 16:11.36 | Bille | langenberg: or look at the Window menu |
| 16:13.14 | langenberg | Bille: aah that was really where I was looking for! |
| 16:13.48 | langenberg | Bille: I've never seen such a great desktop environment. |
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| 16:17.09 | TinoW | hehe. langenberg... what a nick... ;) |
| 16:17.10 | langenberg | A pitty Konqueror crashes while splitting a site with some embedded sound. |
| 16:17.27 | langenberg | TinoW: What's wrong with my nickname? |
| 16:17.40 | TinoW | langenberg: nothing. Its just the name of my birhtown ;) |
| 16:17.43 | TinoW | birth |
| 16:18.33 | langenberg | TinoW: It's my last name :) |
| 16:18.52 | langenberg | TinoW: Where do you come from if I may ask? |
| 16:18.59 | TinoW | langenberg: Germany :) |
| 16:19.40 | TinoW | langenberg: while my last name is the name of at least 3 towns too ;) |
| 16:20.16 | langenberg | Funny tho |
| 16:20.25 | TinoW | yeah ;) |
| 16:21.09 | langenberg | Die Gemeinde Langenberg ist mit rund 8.500 Einwohnern die kleinste Gemeinde im Verband der dreizehn Kommunen des Kreises Gütersloh. |
| 16:21.12 | yannux | bisoir tlm |
| 16:21.14 | langenberg | ^-^ |
| 16:21.28 | Flendor | :0 Ich kann es nicht verstehen! |
| 16:21.55 | TinoW | Flendor: use babelfish.altavista.com :) |
| 16:22.15 | TinoW | langenberg: where do you came from? |
| 16:22.24 | langenberg | Maybe the parents of my parents of their parents of their parents come from Langenberg, and when they moved to Holland they've use it as last name :D |
| 16:22.47 | TinoW | langenberg: while the langenberg I'm coming from is in thuringia ;) |
| 16:23.20 | langenberg | From what?! |
| 16:23.59 | Flendor | Hey, first time I hear of that :) |
| 16:24.28 | TinoW | langenberg: pardon? |
| 16:24.50 | langenberg | what is thuringia? |
| 16:24.55 | TinoW | Flendor: "Samstag" or "Sonnabend" - depends on where you are :) |
| 16:25.02 | TinoW | langenberg: Thüringen |
| 16:25.04 | langenberg | also a german place? |
| 16:25.13 | TinoW | langenberg: east/middle germany |
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| 16:26.39 | langenberg | Aah, cool :D |
| 16:26.48 | JW | can anyone tell me how to shut down a KDE application from a command line? I had a user at a remote office leave Kmail running and I need to shut it off through ssh. |
| 16:27.01 | JW | I've read of a way to do it with dcop or something in the past. |
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| 16:27.25 | JW | Found an article about it on KDE's site but it's not working right. |
| 16:27.55 | langenberg | JW: Just kill the PID |
| 16:28.02 | elirips | hello. suddenly i don't have the option 'switch user' in the kde-menue no more. what am i missing? i have kde 3.3.2. |
| 16:28.11 | JW | langenberg, yeah I was wanting to avoid using kill. |
| 16:28.37 | langenberg | JW: why? It has no side affects that I'm aware of :) |
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| 16:28.41 | langenberg | just killall kmail |
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| 16:31.31 | s3m10s | elirips: it may be in the control center, under kde componentes and session manager |
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| 16:32.22 | Zxcvb_ | any plans for a kde 3.4.1? |
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| 16:33.54 | PieD | Zxcvb_: only bugfix ! |
| 16:35.15 | Zxcvb_ | isn't that what the .1 or .2 means? |
| 16:35.48 | langenberg | I'm using kdenetwork-3.4.0-r1 :) bugfix |
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| 16:37.02 | Zxcvb_ | langeberg: where did you get that? |
| 16:37.16 | langenberg | Prob. gentoo only tho, don't know if it's official. |
| 16:37.31 | Zxcvb_ | langeberg: what did it fix? |
| 16:37.51 | langenberg | the error Kopete gave when exiting |
| 16:38.34 | langenberg | *kdenetwork-3.4.0-r1 (03 Apr 2005) |
| 16:38.34 | StevenR | how do I stop konversation from resizing the nicklist every time I start it? It always fills half the chat window when i open it |
| 16:38.34 | langenberg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.34 | langenberg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.34 | langenberg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.34 | langenberg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:40.01 | *** topic/#kde by JW -> KDE 3.4 rele/quit laterased | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdebase/faq/ - the answer to your question might already be here! | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | If you've just upgraded to 3.4 using Konstruct and your KDE has strange colours and symbols everywhere, check your $QTDIR ! |
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| 16:40.15 | JW | of all things... |
| 16:40.24 | *** topic/#kde by JW -> KDE 3.4 released | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdebase/faq/ - the answer to your question might already be here! | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | If you've just upgraded to 3.4 using Konstruct and your KDE has strange colours and symbols everywhere, check your $QTDIR ! |
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| 16:49.59 | Zxcvb_ | langeberg: looks like those patches are gentoo only |
| 16:50.08 | Zxcvb_ | langeberg: managed to download the patches anyway though |
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| 16:55.38 | djaquay | is there a way to slow down terminal output (i.e. in konsole) to approximate a slow modem connection? |
| 16:57.21 | TinoW | djaquay: use ssh and a traffc shaper ;) |
| 16:57.57 | djaquay | :) i'd like to have it effect local commands, though... |
| 16:58.16 | djaquay | no latency, limited throughput |
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| 16:58.22 | StevenR | how do I stop konversation from resizing the nicklist every time I start it? It always fills half the chat window when i open it |
| 16:58.38 | TinoW | djaquay: you can always connect locally too :) |
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| 16:59.46 | djaquay | TinoW, well, that's true, but wouldn't a traffic shaper still deliver results in chunks? |
| 17:00.20 | TinoW | djaquay: most console output is buffered too. So this would not make much difference |
| 17:01.44 | TinoW | djaquay: or construct a stream limiter program which reads stdin and writes to stdout and use it for both input and output on your console ;) I dont think you can simulate with stty |
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| 17:03.44 | djaquay | TinoW, that's an idea, too, although I was hoping this could also work with interactive pgms, like vi or emacs |
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| 17:04.30 | imo | hi all |
| 17:05.14 | TinoW | djaquay: then go for the ssh approach I'd say. I wonder why stty has no effect |
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| 17:07.28 | djaquay | TinoW, yeah, stty looks like it should do what i want... |
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| 17:09.56 | langenberg | Am I the only one which experiences crashes of Konqueror sometimes? |
| 17:10.24 | langenberg | I want to figure out if it's my distro or just some bugs in Konqueror. |
| 17:11.27 | ponto | langenberg: i also get several crashes. on one machine more than twice a day. |
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| 17:12.36 | langenberg | I've have them mostly when Konqueror use embedded media. When I watch a website which has an embedded .mp3 file and I'm splitting the window. |
| 17:12.44 | langenberg | (for example) |
| 17:13.45 | langenberg | But it looks like Konqueror 'learns' from it's mistakes. It's a bit weirde because it'll go flawless most of the time when I try to reproduce the error. |
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| 17:28.38 | ubuntu | hi |
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| 17:39.28 | jeff1 | trying to figure out why my password will not work when i try and unlock my kde desktop (using fedora 3). my pw works fine for logging in, but not when i lock the system |
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| 17:47.27 | langenberg | Can I launch that 'Desktop Settings Wizard' I see at my first login again? Looks like it's hiding from me :-O |
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| 17:51.54 | sredna | langenberg: kpersonalizer |
| 17:52.09 | langenberg | aah thanx you |
| 17:52.24 | langenberg | I didn't see it in the control centre. |
| 17:52.43 | sredna | It's not there, it is a separate application |
| 17:53.18 | sredna | And frankly, not well behaved, it changes settings each time you press next |
| 17:53.22 | sredna | So be warned |
| 17:53.25 | slayerbob | hiya sredna :) |
| 17:53.37 | sredna | Hello slayerbob :) |
| 17:53.44 | langenberg | Oh, too late. There goes my font settings |
| 17:53.53 | Flendor | Hello sredna. |
| 17:54.00 | sredna | Hi Flendor :-) |
| 17:54.28 | Flendor | How's it going? |
| 17:54.38 | Blissex | Is this a bug? When I have the 'Application Launcher' in the Kicker, it never gets kb focus under KWin, so it is unusable. but if there is no window manager, or I use FVWM as the window manager, the 'Application Launcher' in the Kicker gets kb focus... If not a bug, what config do I need to change? |
| 17:54.40 | sredna | Fine, thanks |
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| 17:55.18 | sredna | Blissex: If it does not get keyboard focus if you click it, it is a bug |
| 17:56.03 | Blissex | sredna: argh. as I said, it gets kb focus if the WM is missing or not KWin, so it is likely to be a bug in KWin. |
| 17:56.56 | sredna | Blissex: So, you should check if it is reported, and do so if not |
| 17:57.08 | Blissex | the funny thing is that the cursor changes shape to the I-beam as it should as soon as it is over the text entry field, it just does not get focus... |
| 17:57.13 | Blissex | sredna: yes, Ill do. |
| 17:57.18 | sredna | Thanks :) |
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| 17:58.01 | nxv__ | hi |
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| 17:58.38 | nxv__ | i want do compile something using krootpixmap |
| 17:58.46 | nxv__ | i have set : |
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| 18:00.12 | nxv__ | -L/usr/kde/3.4/lib -I/usr/kde/3.4/include |
| 18:00.12 | nxv__ | but still get the |
| 18:00.12 | nxv__ | undefined reference to `KRootPixmap::KRootPixmap[in-charge](QWidget*, char const*)' |
| 18:00.12 | nxv__ | what else do i have to commit to the linker? |
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| 18:02.10 | Flendor | Goodbye. |
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| 18:09.34 | nxv__ | wie findet man raus welche linker optionen ein header braucht? |
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| 18:13.30 | Bille | nxv__: -lkdeui ? |
| 18:14.05 | Bille | -L just says where to find the libraries named with -l IIRC |
| 18:14.50 | nxv__ | Bille: danke damit compiled er |
| 18:15.04 | Bille | nxv__: bitte |
| 18:15.06 | nxv__ | wie finde ich denn raus welchen flag ich brauche? woher wustest du das? |
| 18:15.35 | Blissex | ah yes, the no-focus-on-Application Launcher is a bug and has been fixed post 3.3.x: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96028 |
| 18:15.59 | Bille | schmerzen im rechten unterbein - heisst immer -lkdeui noetig oder regen morgen ;) |
| 18:17.30 | Bille | nxv__: schau in den kdelibs sourcen - krootpixmap wird wohl in kdeui/ definiert |
| 18:18.15 | nxv__ | Bille: wie meinst du das? |
| 18:18.29 | nxv__ | compiler optionen kenne ich nur aus makefiles |
| 18:18.48 | nxv__ | wo kann ich die sonst rausfinden? hab vesucht die aus makefiles zusammenzusuchen die das gleiche nutzen wie ich |
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| 18:20.03 | Bille | nxv__: ich benutze lieber automake - da muss man allerdings am anfang die richtigen vars aus anderen Makefile.am suchen |
| 18:20.46 | nxv__ | hm ich schau mir mal makefile.am an |
| 18:20.50 | nxv__ | wonach muss ich das suchen? |
| 18:21.34 | Bille | nxv__: kapptemplate kann das alles fuer dich vorbereiten - oder kdevelop |
| 18:22.34 | nxv__ | hab jetzt z.b. das makefile.am von konsole hier vor mir, dass benutzt die funktion die ich verwenden will, habe aber keinen blassen wie ich jetzt rausbekomme, was ich einstellen muss um diese auch in meiner anderen app zur verfuegung zu haben, wie gehe ich da vor? |
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| 18:23.06 | Bille | moment... |
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| 18:24.00 | Bille | nxv__: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/other/makefile_am_howto.html |
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| 18:24.53 | nxv__ | danke bille, hoffe ich steig da auch mal durch, das ist fuer mich noch das groesste raetsel mit c++ wo in welchen bibs libs was zu finden ist und wie ich darauf zugreife |
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| 18:25.26 | Bille | nxv__: klar, man braucht ein bisschen gefuehl und glueck am anfang |
| 18:25.46 | nxv__ | ja und wenn man bei kde weiss wo man was findet geth das suchen in einer anderen lib los |
| 18:25.55 | nxv__ | hm da finde java schon sehr angenehm |
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| 18:26.05 | Bille | nxv__: lxr.kde.org - identifier search hilft dabei, ein app zu finden den die klassen schon benutzt |
| 18:26.07 | nxv__ | vorallem eclipse mit seinem auto import |
| 18:26.24 | Bille | ist alles warmduschen ;) |
| 18:27.04 | bitte | hello |
| 18:27.22 | Bitte | :) |
| 18:27.22 | Bille | nxv__: in #kde-devel wirst du vieelleicht besser bedien |
| 18:27.26 | nxv__ | Bille: manche nennen das rapid development, weil es zeit und nerven spart :) |
| 18:28.46 | Bille | nxv__: mein Tip - verwendung mit grep -ir oder lxr.kde.org finden, und dann in dessen Makefile.am schauen |
| 18:29.23 | Bitte | guten tag |
| 18:29.25 | Bille | nxv__: es gibt nur wenige unterschiede von app zu app |
| 18:29.32 | nxv__ | Bille: eine c++ frage noch |
| 18:30.07 | nxv__ | was bedeutet es, wenn am anfang des header nur class KrootPixmap steht |
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| 18:34.03 | Bille | nxv__: class KRootPixmap; ? |
| 18:34.08 | nxv__ | ja |
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| 18:35.25 | Bille | nxv__: deklariert den classenamen, damit man KRootPixmap * im header benutzen kann, ohne den ganzen krootpixmap.h zu #includen |
| 18:35.37 | Bille | mach die Uebersetzung schneller |
| 18:36.08 | Bille | die eigentliche #include "krootpixmap.h" ist im foo.cpp |
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| 18:37.20 | nxv__ | sehr interessant |
| 18:37.42 | nxv__ | dachte zwar das prinzip header cpp wuerde dem zwar gerade wieder sprechen aber gut :) |
| 18:40.12 | Bille | nxv__: fuer die zweite satzhaelfte versagt mein verstand :) |
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| 18:44.39 | chakie | ah, this is kde.de tonight |
| 18:45.04 | Bille | chakie: my potion of german has just worn off, you're safe |
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| 18:45.32 | chakie | :) |
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| 18:46.00 | chakie | don't mind me, didn't mean to disrupt |
| 18:46.17 | chakie | i grokked 90% of what was said |
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| 18:57.55 | X-The | i would like to know if in other latptos the fan is alwaus working, i ask this because is Windows isnt like this, i think i will get deaf soon , any thoughts? |
| 18:58.20 | annma | X-The: mine is working a lot |
| 18:58.28 | annma | X-The: but I am also compiling a lot |
| 18:58.42 | annma | it's noisy as hell, yes |
| 18:58.48 | annma | (cheap laptop) |
| 18:58.52 | X-The | in windows isnt like this |
| 18:59.03 | annma | I don't use mine in windows |
| 18:59.05 | X-The | the fan doesnt work when isnt needed |
| 18:59.16 | X-The | and in linux alwaus running... |
| 18:59.25 | annma | maybe your distro has not a good kernel |
| 18:59.33 | annma | what kernel version do you have? |
| 18:59.37 | annma | what distro? |
| 18:59.39 | chakie | X-The: ask you laptop manufacturer for drivers for the laptop power management stuff |
| 18:59.39 | X-The | 2.6.11 |
| 18:59.42 | X-The | mandrake |
| 18:59.46 | annma | should be good |
| 18:59.58 | X-The | but as i remember this always was like this |
| 19:00.04 | PhilRod | X-The: you should be able to switch off the fan - I think linux has some stuff in /proc that you can use |
| 19:00.11 | X-The | i use linus about 3/4 years |
| 19:00.12 | PhilRod | try asking in #yourdistro |
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| 19:00.26 | annma | X-The: ask in #mandrake, yes |
| 19:00.29 | X-The | but that sould be done automatically |
| 19:00.48 | X-The | id dont go to #mandrake the ops are too arrogant |
| 19:00.57 | annma | oh? they are fine with me |
| 19:01.07 | annma | I always got nice answers |
| 19:01.20 | X-The | an op from there baned me just because now im using cooker |
| 19:01.28 | X-The | one caled ahuntedunix |
| 19:01.36 | annma | maybe your power management is not enabled |
| 19:01.37 | X-The | hauntedunis |
| 19:01.43 | X-The | hauntedunix |
| 19:01.50 | X-The | some like this |
| 19:01.58 | X-The | but it is |
| 19:02.08 | X-The | i have acpi configured |
| 19:02.23 | PhilRod | well, we can't do anything about ops from other channels, but a quick google search suggests that you want to twiddle /proc/acpi/fan/something |
| 19:02.34 | annma | try looking in google and your laptop, X-The |
| 19:02.42 | annma | ;) |
| 19:03.01 | X-The | but annma didnt u said that your laptop also haves fan always working |
| 19:03.10 | annma | yes but I am compiling |
| 19:03.12 | annma | all the time |
| 19:03.24 | annma | so I suspect my laptop needs it |
| 19:03.33 | annma | and my laptop is cheap |
| 19:03.38 | PhilRod | oooh, reith lectures on BBC radio 4 - all about technology |
| 19:03.42 | annma | not a limousine |
| 19:03.44 | PhilRod | (so it's kinda on-topic) |
| 19:03.54 | X-The | i have an Asus a2h |
| 19:04.02 | annma | X-The: I listen to music with a headset |
| 19:04.35 | X-The | :) |
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| 19:07.20 | nes_ | hi, is there a way to smooth line arts in kpdf, as it can be done with acroread ? |
| 19:07.27 | xbeanx | does KDE use famd for anything useful? |
| 19:10.57 | nxv__ | xbeanx: i just guess for keeping konqueror file display uptodate |
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| 19:18.20 | tzanger | does anyone know why I can't get non-ttf fonts in konsole? I am trying to get the system font (8x8) in there but I can't choose it, only TTF fonts |
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| 19:20.03 | caliga | can anybody tell me what i have to do to make the "pages per sheet" option in the printer-settings available? (kcontrol) |
| 19:21.18 | caliga | does this depend to the installed cups driver? |
| 19:22.09 | termo | caliga: i don't know, I can only use it on my printer (not for "create pdf" e.a.) |
| 19:22.24 | termo | caliga: so I guess it has something to do with cups... |
| 19:23.20 | caliga | termo: but "create pdf" is not a cups printer, is it? |
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| 19:23.48 | caliga | termo: it s not available in all my printers... virtual and real ones |
| 19:24.28 | termo | caliga: Nope, that's why I guess it's cups, but I'm not really into the printing/driver stuff, so can't really help you, It works on suse+cups+hp-printer here :) |
| 19:25.20 | caliga | termo: well... i don't have suse, but the rest fits :) |
| 19:29.56 | termo | caliga: well, KDE page says that it's a postscript filter built-in in KDEprinter |
| 19:30.24 | termo | caliga: so perhaps it works only on printers that 'speak' postscript, allthough I doubt mine does... |
| 19:30.58 | caliga | termo:mine does... i think up to level 3 (laserjet 6l) |
| 19:31.18 | tzanger | uh |
| 19:31.26 | tzanger | lasrjet 6L supports PS? |
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| 19:32.35 | caliga | tzanger: the cups test page tells me so |
| 19:33.21 | caliga | termo:well... maybe it's because im using kde 3.4 and the missed a few things... |
| 19:35.14 | caliga | can i use a different command line than "kprinter" in my applications? like... "cups --pages-per-sheet 2" ? (what man page?) |
| 19:36.25 | termo | caliga: did you check the filters? |
| 19:36.37 | caliga | termo: haha! stop! :))))) |
| 19:37.20 | caliga | termo: i missed the kcontrol option "current printing system" .... |
| 19:37.54 | caliga | termo: it was set to unix lpd instead of cups... |
| 19:38.18 | caliga | thanx, now the option is available :) |
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| 19:39.42 | SchopfeR | hi |
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| 20:19.32 | spiral | hi |
| 20:21.11 | X-The | whats happening with cvs? i cant retrieve |
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| 20:34.28 | L_Killer | hey there, how do I adjust my brightness and/or gamma in KDE? |
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| 20:43.52 | _jorgp | anyone else experience issues with k3b changing gap rate between songs to song length |
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| 20:48.11 | elirips | how can i install the german language for my kde and kmail? |
| 20:48.59 | Blissex | elirips: depends entirely on your distribution's packaging policy. |
| 20:49.13 | elirips | Blissex: debian sarge |
| 20:49.33 | Blissex | elirips: then use 'aptitude' and select one of the KDE language packages :-) |
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| 20:49.40 | X-The | cant conect to cvs |
| 20:50.11 | elirips | Blissex: yeah, but what are the names of this packages? searching in apt-cache for thinkg like german and kde, etc doesn't give me anything usefull |
| 20:50.48 | Blissex | elirips: that's why I suggest using 'aptitude' or 'synaptic', which present all available packages in clearly organized sections by topic... |
| 20:51.46 | elirips | Blissex: okay... going to go through it... hoped that someone could just shout the name at me ;) |
| 20:52.01 | Blissex | elirips: so you can find the right package in an intuitive way, without having to guess that the KDE language packages have names beginning with 'kde-18n'. |
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| 20:52.18 | elirips | Blissex: thanks a lot :) now i got it. |
| 20:52.21 | Blissex | elirips: a tiny bit of initiative is often a good idea. |
| 20:53.09 | elirips | Blissex: where comes that name kde-18n from? for me that doesn't sound like language-packages... |
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| 20:53.57 | Blissex | elirips: 'i18n' mispronounces in ammmericaaan sound a bit like 'internationalization'. |
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| 20:55.00 | sarah03 | elirips: "internationalization" -> "i-18 letters-n" |
| 20:55.10 | sarah03 | Which is where "i18n" comes from. |
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| 20:57.50 | scrooge | HI |
| 20:58.02 | Arcane | Hrm, can Cygwin run KDE? |
| 20:58.07 | scrooge | yes |
| 20:58.25 | Arcane | Yay, thanks. |
| 20:58.45 | elirips | do this language-packages only make kde (the k-menue, control-center, etc) german, or also kde-apps like kmail, korganize, kaddressbook, etc..? |
| 20:58.48 | scrooge | theres a guide how to do it |
| 20:58.57 | sarah03 | Arcane: It'll run, but it'll likely be slow starting things, because Cygwin is stuck under the win32 process model. |
| 20:59.15 | sarah03 | Which basically means that fork(2) is slower than shit. |
| 20:59.15 | Arcane | I can't use Linux, though, so I believe it'd be my best bet. :\ |
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| 21:00.16 | chavo | Arcane, they are only up to KDE 3.1.4 on Cygwin, it runs fine though. |
| 21:00.17 | bmfan | hello |
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| 21:16.54 | tricente | good evening |
| 21:18.16 | pwn3dbitch | good something |
| 21:18.18 | pwn3dbitch | :P |
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| 21:19.21 | spiral | hi |
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| 21:25.26 | tricente | has anybody an idea about the regional key config? my AT-sign hides. |
| 21:26.49 | Blissex | tricente: yes. |
| 21:27.06 | tricente | and??? |
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| 21:29.48 | TinoW | tricente: you would tell us the region |
| 21:30.24 | tricente | de/euro |
| 21:32.19 | tricente | i tried to manage the problem with kbr - without sucess! |
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| 21:32.43 | Biennium | Is there a list somewhere about which AltGr keys and combinations lead to which characters? |
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| 21:34.16 | tricente | yes, setxkbmap -option -option compose:rwin,caps:shift_nocancel,altwin:meta_alt |
| 21:35.10 | tricente | keyb is generic 105 intl |
| 21:35.30 | Biennium | So far, I've worked out that AltGr-accent + character gives accented character, but I don't use those very often. |
| 21:36.02 | tricente | ah thanx, i'll try |
| 21:38.14 | tricente | seems to need a system restart? |
| 21:39.28 | Biennium | No! Keymap usually don't need reboot to change, and reboot resets it to whatever is the setting on boot. |
| 21:40.38 | tricente | o.k. thanx, |
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| 21:45.20 | tricente | No, i tried everything with kbr - without sucess! |
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| 21:45.42 | Arcane | Meh, better'n not having internet and sound in Linux. :P |
| 21:46.17 | Biennium | And to make things more fun, there seem to be different keyboard settings for X and console. |
| 21:46.33 | tricente | ?? |
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| 21:54.58 | tricente | bye and good night! |
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| 22:14.12 | babyhuey | KDE PWNZ ALL OTHER WMS!!! |
| 22:16.28 | gcbirzan | Too bad it's not a window manager. |
| 22:16.47 | babyhuey | whats it called? |
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| 22:17.40 | derelm | its a desktop environment |
| 22:18.02 | babyhuey | what is the difference between a windows manager and a desktop environment |
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| 22:18.40 | Blissex | babyhuey: there are discussions of this... |
| 22:18.42 | derelm | a window manager simply manages to show windows, while a desktop environment come with apps that "form" the desktop |
| 22:18.54 | Blissex | babyhuey: online, but what derelm says is mostly correct. |
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| 22:19.12 | derelm | Blissex: thanks ;) |
| 22:19.30 | peratu | Hello. |
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| 22:19.45 | babyhuey | ok, well i learned something new today |
| 22:20.06 | babyhuey | so let me rephrase what i said earlier: KDE PWNS ALL OTHER DESKTOP ENVIRONMENTS!!! |
| 22:20.22 | Blissex | babyhuey: yes, but thats not news.... |
| 22:20.41 | derelm | babyhuey: i gues you should learn to not use caps all the time |
| 22:20.47 | babyhuey | ok |
| 22:20.58 | babyhuey | i dont use it all the time, just when i am yelling |
| 22:21.18 | derelm | babyhuey: well, ok, then you should stop yelling every second line ;) |
| 22:21.36 | babyhuey | i only yelled on 2 lines thank you |
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| 22:22.24 | caliga | what does it mean that a filter is "not available: requirement not satisfied" (or like that) in the printing dialog? what can i do to make it available? |
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| 22:27.53 | babyhuey | it means its not available |
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| 22:50.11 | Xeon3D | Hi... I'm looking for a KDE Bluetooth App similar to the Gnome-Bluetooth package... |
| 22:51.03 | aseigo | Xeon3D: you didn't even bother to visit google did you =) |
| 22:51.27 | aseigo | http://kde-bluetooth.sourceforge.net/screenshots/index.html |
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| 22:55.25 | Borg^Queen | Hello |
| 22:55.28 | Octane | whats the name of the gui find/replace program within files |
| 22:55.34 | Octane | Borg^Queen, you post on kde apps! |
| 22:55.39 | Borg^Queen | I'm testing my new SDSL connection. |
| 22:55.48 | Borg^Queen | Yes Octane why? |
| 22:55.57 | Octane | i was just pointing that out |
| 22:56.02 | slayerbob | oh nice :P |
| 22:56.04 | slayerbob | what speed ? |
| 22:56.07 | Octane | IRC is serious bandwith, you sure your SDSL can handle it |
| 22:56.14 | Borg^Queen | Hey slayerbob |
| 22:56.19 | slayerbob | hiya Borg^Queen :P |
| 22:56.28 | Borg^Queen | 1.1 Sync |
| 22:56.31 | Borg^Queen | MBPS |
| 22:56.39 | slayerbob | nice |
| 22:56.43 | Borg^Queen | After sharing with 2 other computers |
| 22:56.53 | slayerbob | i only have 128kbps up here :( |
| 22:56.55 | Borg^Queen | without, its about 4.1 mps |
| 22:57.03 | slayerbob | although my server in town has 512kbps up so that's not too bad |
| 22:57.17 | Borg^Queen | After all the networking I have to do, I'll be lucky if I end up with that much lol |
| 22:57.33 | slayerbob | heh |
| 22:57.40 | Borg^Queen | Sigh, but I have to share. |
| 22:57.49 | Borg^Queen | Any, nice to talk to you. |
| 22:58.01 | Borg^Queen | Need to get back to wiring, and drilling and fun stuff |
| 22:58.12 | Borg^Queen | Octane: which post did you read? |
| 22:58.13 | slayerbob | heh |
| 22:58.32 | Borg^Queen | The one were I threaten to take over the world. Or the one about chocolate? |
| 22:58.52 | Borg^Queen | All KDE apps should have chocolate come with them when you download them. |
| 22:58.59 | Borg^Queen | o_0 |
| 22:59.01 | Borg^Queen | It can happen |
| 22:59.11 | Octane | Borg^Queen, just remember your name is all |
| 22:59.16 | Borg^Queen | Ah, |
| 22:59.36 | Borg^Queen | `Ok I' gone. Please resumed your normally scheduled lives |
| 22:59.41 | Borg^Queen | resume even |
| 22:59.46 | Borg^Queen | Later humans |
| 23:01.26 | Octane | she is really into her Borg character |
| 23:01.30 | StevenR | aye |
| 23:01.47 | Octane | maybe she really is borg! |
| 23:02.06 | StevenR | possibly |
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| 23:12.10 | gregday | where can i find info about the svn move? |
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| 23:12.41 | richmoore | gregday: what kind of info? |
| 23:13.23 | gregday | well, servers for example |
| 23:13.28 | richmoore | svn.kde.org |
| 23:13.50 | gregday | i shouldve guessed |
| 23:13.53 | richmoore | though that is not currently the live system |
| 23:13.55 | gregday | kde people always go the smiple route :) |
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| 23:14.19 | gregday | i dont suppose any of the cvs mirrors are supposed to be down are they? i mean related to the svn stuff |
| 23:14.37 | richmoore | not as far as i know |
| 23:14.44 | annma | anoncvs is down but not related to svn move |
| 23:14.53 | annma | it seems to be down for what I heard |
| 23:15.07 | annma | but that's probably a server failure |
| 23:15.32 | gregday | ok, just making sure it's a 'regular' downage |
| 23:15.54 | gregday | i figured if the cvs stuff went offline for good, it would be a long awhile after svn had been functional |
| 23:16.10 | richmoore | gregday: the CVS will switch to read-only before the move |
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| 23:16.42 | gregday | i just pull from anoncvs anyhow, i rarely submit patches to the lists |
| 23:17.04 | annma | I was told anoncvs is down for 2 days now |
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| 23:17.38 | richmoore | i guess everyone who could fix it is busy preparing for svn |
| 23:17.55 | rkroetch | Anyone else experiance KDE's backround renderer rendering SVGs different than the embedded KSVG library in Konqi? |
| 23:18.25 | annma | does not render for me at all with yesterday's cvs code |
| 23:18.47 | gregday | does KSVG use librsvg at all |
| 23:18.50 | rkroetch | I'm in KDE 3.4 |
| 23:19.07 | rkroetch | according to Konqi it's using KSVG - libart backend |
| 23:19.18 | rkroetch | But I see no noticable information about it for kdesktop |
| 23:21.05 | annma | richmoore: can I make a PassivePopup position on the left of a widget and not on the right |
| 23:21.49 | richmoore | annma: yeah, you need to use the constructor rather than the static methods then move it (or reimplement position self) |
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| 23:22.09 | annma | ok, thanks |
| 23:22.14 | richmoore | np |
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| 23:22.57 | s3m10s | so flash doesn't work in anything less than 24 bit, huh? and neither does firefox |
| 23:24.27 | s3m10s | under kde, I mean |
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| 23:26.33 | Kryczek | so hello |
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| 23:27.53 | s3m10s | hey |
| 23:29.33 | antimattervortex | what setting would cause a screensaver to perform poorly. |
| 23:29.35 | antimattervortex | ? |
| 23:29.52 | s3m10s | gl subsystem? |
| 23:30.15 | antimattervortex | my open gl screen savers work fine as root but they suck big time in any other user account. it must be a setting i made as root... i'm not sure what. |
| 23:30.22 | antimattervortex | maybe something in xset.... |
| 23:30.27 | s3m10s | maybe permissions on the device |
| 23:30.49 | antimattervortex | what device? |
| 23:30.53 | s3m10s | the video card |
| 23:31.05 | antimattervortex | hmm |
| 23:31.14 | s3m10s | something like /dev/nvidia |
| 23:31.15 | antimattervortex | well they still run they just have an increadibly slow frame rate. |
| 23:31.54 | s3m10s | I remember having that problem bout 4 months ago |
| 23:31.54 | antimattervortex | like some background proc is sucking up all the cpu cycles or something. |
| 23:31.55 | s3m10s | ouch |
| 23:31.55 | antimattervortex | even if i create a new account. |
| 23:32.02 | antimattervortex | root is the only one performing correctly. |
| 23:32.09 | s3m10s | I'm going to try an experiment here. |
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| 23:34.22 | tzanger | good evening |
| 23:34.22 | antimattervortex | the onlything i remember doing before was "xset s noblank" |
| 23:34.22 | antimattervortex | on root. |
| 23:34.22 | tzanger | I've got an encrypted message sitting in my inbox but kmail says that the openpgp plugin can't decrypt it... I have gpg and in the kmail config openpgp is checked but I can't configure it... any help would be greatly appreciated |
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| 23:34.33 | antimattervortex | because kde kept freezing the screen after 1 minute. until i moved the mouse... |
| 23:34.39 | s3m10s | I have no idea what that is. my experiment didn't work either, so I got no idea what the problem is. maybe when I've used linux more than 1 year I can help |
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| 23:35.32 | s3m10s | anyone get Doom3 to work without cedega? |
| 23:35.50 | rkroetch | antimattervortex: As an experiment, make a new user and see if KDE can boot |
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| 23:36.36 | antimattervortex | if i make a propper .initrc file it's fine with new users. (i've tried that already). |
| 23:36.38 | HuntsMan | s3m10s: in Linux? |
| 23:37.00 | s3m10s | HuntsMan: of course. works fine in windows, but I don't boot that very often |
| 23:37.18 | HuntsMan | s3m10s: but why Cedega? DOOM 3 has a Native Linux version.... |
| 23:37.34 | s3m10s | that's what I mean. the native linux doesn't work but cedega does |
| 23:37.55 | rkroetch | s3m10s: I've had no issues |
| 23:37.57 | HuntsMan | and why doesnt? any error messages? |
| 23:38.37 | s3m10s | hold on a sec. it just crashed kicker |
| 23:39.11 | rkroetch | antimattervortex: Must be something wrong with your per-user configurations... try to remove your session config to start a blank session... if that works it's session... otherwise my method of solving it would be backup your .kde directory, then delete it.. then copy back settings that you like (Kopete, etc) |
| 23:39.19 | rkroetch | I'm sure there is a better way... but that should work |
| 23:39.40 | s3m10s | stops at dlopen(libGL.so.1) Couldn't get a visual |
| 23:39.54 | HuntsMan | s3m10s: video card? |
| 23:40.00 | s3m10s | nvidia |
| 23:40.14 | s3m10s | 5700 ultra. |
| 23:40.18 | antimattervortex | alright, i'll toy with it. |
| 23:40.21 | HuntsMan | with latest propietary drivers ? |
| 23:40.36 | s3m10s | yes sir |
| 23:40.42 | HuntsMan | weird |
| 23:40.47 | HuntsMan | works fine to me :S |
| 23:41.02 | s3m10s | Unable to initilize OpenGL. all other GL stuff works great |
| 23:41.38 | HuntsMan | maybe it can't find the right libGL |
| 23:41.46 | HuntsMan | any command line opts to specify the libGL? |
| 23:41.49 | s3m10s | I think I only have one. |
| 23:41.54 | s3m10s | let me see . .. |
| 23:43.04 | s3m10s | well I'm off to bed. tnks |
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| 23:51.44 | tzanger | hmm |
| 23:51.53 | tzanger | when I send an encrypted message kmail can't even read it in the sent mail folder |
| 23:52.42 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 23:53.00 | tzanger | and when I send to myself PGP/Inline I get correctly asked for my passphrase and hten kontact sigsegv's |
| 23:53.54 | tzanger | hmm |
| 23:54.05 | tzanger | kmail can't handle anything but inline PGP |
| 23:54.09 | tzanger | yet it's depricated |
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| 23:55.28 | jono | hi all |
| 23:56.06 | Kryczek | tzanger: works here |
| 23:57.05 | nutshell42 | hi, the image index plugin in kcontrol tells me |
| 23:57.07 | nutshell42 | KDE can make use of the GNU Image Finding Tool (GIFT) to perform queries based not just on filenames, but on file content. |
| 23:57.07 | nutshell42 | For example, you can search for an image by giving an example image that looks similar to the one you are looking for. |
| 23:57.26 | nutshell42 | so now that I have the necessary index |
| 23:57.44 | nutshell42 | how does kde make use of gift? |
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