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| 00:01.58 | ScytheBlade1 | score, I have a rather useful keyboard now |
| 00:02.07 | ScytheBlade1 | thank you much |
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| 00:11.46 | Roey | hi |
| 00:11.46 | Roey | ok |
| 00:11.48 | Roey | I don't get this: |
| 00:14.21 | Roey | I have an animated .gif file loaded in konqueror (the original HTML linked to a .gif file), but the image does not animate. So I go to Settings->Configure Konqueror->File Associations and set 'Image->GIF' to be handled by another program. But when I hit reload, the same handler program is handling the image! arg!!!! what am I doing wrong??? |
| 00:15.05 | annma | Roey: where is this animated gif? |
| 00:15.32 | Roey | http://www.lyle.org.nyud.net:8090/~markoff/collections/Spiritsol421_420_navcam.gif |
| 00:15.40 | Roey | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.51 | Roey | but it doesn't matter -- I can't get another handler to handle the image. |
| 00:16.07 | Roey | I tried going to the Embedding tab and selecting another program--still no go. |
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| 00:18.48 | chimaera | do i have to set up anything special to make kdm's autologin work? i use CVS HEAD and get an authentification error. |
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| 00:20.03 | annma | Roey: it opens in kuickshow here and is not animated |
| 00:20.10 | Roey | ok |
| 00:20.17 | Roey | but I can't change the handler program |
| 00:20.18 | Roey | nothing works |
| 00:20.19 | annma | have to change the settings |
| 00:20.21 | Roey | it's alwaysthe same program |
| 00:20.40 | Roey | I know because some programs give you a cursor over the image, while some give you a Selection cursor over the image |
| 00:22.49 | annma | it animates here in konq |
| 00:23.10 | annma | I have 'embeddable image viewver' as embedded part |
| 00:23.30 | annma | I paste the link in konq because otherwise it keeps opening KuickShow |
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| 01:15.21 | dwango | http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/13/009200&threshold=-1&tid=185&tid=198&tid=106 |
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| 01:33.14 | yyc747 | can someone help me with a k3b problem? |
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| 01:36.28 | yyc747 | anyone here? |
| 01:36.43 | Blissex | yyc747: without knowing the problem? You are very very optimistic. |
| 01:36.47 | yyc747 | k3b can't unlock my cd burner, but I've checked that I have write permission, so that isn't the problem |
| 01:37.01 | yyc747 | Blissex: you mean you can't automagically find my problem ;) |
| 01:37.19 | yyc747 | anyway, k3b can't unlock the drive |
| 01:37.57 | yyc747 | I know that it can burn cds with cdrecord (although I always sudo cdrecord), but I've checked that I do have write permission to /dev/cdroms/cdrom1 as the user I'm using for k3b |
| 01:38.23 | Blissex | yyc747: what do you mean by 'unlock'? |
| 01:38.39 | Blissex | yyc747: also are you using the 'ide-scsi' method or direct ATAPI? |
| 01:38.47 | Dhraakellian | yyc747, do you have a zombie process somewhere hogging the device? |
| 01:39.04 | yyc747 | Blissex: I don't think I have a zombie process, as cdrecord still works |
| 01:39.37 | yyc747 | Blissex: I'm using ATAPI (or at least that's what I should be using)... maybe that's not set in K3B... |
| 01:40.01 | Blissex | yyc747: and what do you mean with «unlock· |
| 01:40.07 | Blissex | yyc747: and what do you mean with «unlock»? |
| 01:40.39 | yyc747 | Blissex: I don't know what it's trying to do... the burn process box says something to the effect of "k3b can't unlock the drive" |
| 01:40.46 | yyc747 | Blissex: it doesn't make sense to me either |
| 01:41.13 | Blissex | yyc747: OK, in a command shell run 'cdrecord -scanbus -dev ATAPI:' |
| 01:41.42 | yyc747 | just a second... I'm trying something else |
| 01:42.14 | yyc747 | I've successfully burned to this device (/dev/hdd) before via ATAPI with cdrecord, and I checked, and that's what K3B is trying to use |
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| 01:43.39 | yyc747 | hmmm... this time it has decided to decode the oggs first... that's a good start |
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| 01:47.35 | yyc747 | no luck... now it isn't even giving me a descriptive error message |
| 01:48.02 | yyc747 | it just says that cdrecord did not exit cleanly |
| 01:50.37 | Blissex | yyc747: OK, in a command shell run 'cdrecord -scanbus -dev ATAPI:' |
| 01:50.41 | yyc747 | what part of the "cdrecord -scanbus -dev ATAPI:" output did you want? |
| 01:50.51 | Blissex | yyc747: the relevant one :-) |
| 01:51.09 | Blissex | yyc747: the line that lists the device you are trying to write to. |
| 01:51.23 | yyc747 | 0,1,0 1) 'SAMSUNG ' 'CD-R/RW SW-252S ' 'R902' Removable CD-ROM |
| 01:52.42 | yyc747 | what permissions do I need to burn a cd as a non-root user |
| 01:52.49 | yyc747 | I always sudo my cdrecords |
| 01:52.53 | Blissex | yyc747: burn as 'root'.... |
| 01:53.15 | Blissex | yyc747: or put yourself in the 'cdrom' group or whatever it is on your distro |
| 01:53.30 | Blissex | yyc747: 'ls -ld /dev/cdrom* /dev/cd*/cd*' |
| 01:53.30 | yyc747 | my distro is gentoo |
| 01:54.32 | annma | hmmm, isn't configuration explained in Gentoo? |
| 01:54.35 | yyc747 | you'll be mad... I gave 777 permissions on my cd burner to see if that was the problem |
| 01:54.40 | yyc747 | and I'm in the cd group |
| 01:54.46 | yyc747 | cdrom* |
| 01:55.04 | yyc747 | I'm the only user on my system :) |
| 01:55.56 | yyc747 | is there possibly a way to get k3b to sudo the cdrecord and prompt for my password? |
| 01:56.36 | annma | did you run k3bsetup? |
| 01:56.58 | annma | k3bsetup should take care of all that, it detects problems and fixes them |
| 01:57.14 | yyc747 | annma: is that a separate program, or a part of k3b? |
| 01:57.30 | annma | part of k3b |
| 01:57.47 | annma | type k3bsetup in konsole |
| 01:58.10 | yyc747 | annma: command not found... |
| 01:58.24 | annma | yyc747: ask in gentoo then |
| 01:58.28 | annma | do you have kdebase? |
| 01:58.46 | yyc747 | annma: is that a package or a program? |
| 01:58.54 | annma | kdebase |
| 01:58.54 | yyc747 | annma: I have KDE installed, so I assume so |
| 01:58.57 | annma | a package |
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| 01:59.13 | yyc747 | annma: yes |
| 01:59.17 | yyc747 | annma: it is installed |
| 01:59.18 | annma | yyc747: type kcontrol |
| 01:59.57 | yyc747 | done |
| 02:00.00 | yyc747 | it is the control center |
| 02:00.05 | yyc747 | what now? |
| 02:00.15 | annma | so you have at least some parts of kde |
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| 02:00.29 | annma | now find out where the k3bsetup is in gentoo |
| 02:00.37 | yyc747 | annma: I have all parts of KDE... I'm running KDE as my environment right now |
| 02:00.42 | annma | in kde sources it is part of k3b |
| 02:00.49 | annma | well |
| 02:00.53 | yyc747 | annma: k3b isn't a part of kde, unless I'm mistaken |
| 02:00.53 | annma | seems not |
| 02:01.04 | yyc747 | it might indicate that I should reinstall k3b though |
| 02:01.19 | annma | probably |
| 02:01.27 | annma | or gentoo splitted it |
| 02:01.42 | yyc747 | annma: I already checked for other k3b packages, and there are none |
| 02:01.43 | annma | See Gentoo to know where k3bsetup is |
| 02:01.48 | annma | well then |
| 02:01.52 | yyc747 | annma: is k3bsetup an innovation since 0.11.17? |
| 02:02.15 | annma | $ k3 |
| 02:02.15 | annma | k3b k3bsetup |
| 02:02.28 | annma | what kde version do you have? |
| 02:03.41 | annma | type k3b --version |
| 02:03.42 | yyc747 | 3.3.0 |
| 02:03.50 | yyc747 | ah... k3b version |
| 02:03.53 | annma | KDE: 3.4.0 |
| 02:03.54 | annma | K3b: 0.11.99 |
| 02:03.55 | yyc747 | 0.11.17 |
| 02:04.01 | annma | kde 3.3.0? |
| 02:04.05 | yyc747 | yes |
| 02:04.05 | annma | why so old? |
| 02:04.18 | yyc747 | because compiling it is a right pain in the arse |
| 02:04.29 | annma | hmm then why gentoo? |
| 02:04.44 | annma | see k3b webpage then |
| 02:04.51 | annma | or k3b doc |
| 02:04.53 | yyc747 | because I prefer to have more control over my system and what goes on it... and because portage rocks |
| 02:05.00 | yyc747 | I'm installing k3b 0.11.18 |
| 02:05.01 | annma | I don't remember what it was like back in 3.3.0 |
| 02:05.09 | annma | !!!!!! |
| 02:05.42 | yyc747 | annma: well, even if KDE is quite different, it still doesn't explain why I don't have k3bsetup |
| 02:06.02 | annma | look in the doc and then ask gentoo |
| 02:06.11 | annma | do you have a way to look in your sources? |
| 02:06.26 | annma | like cd to k3b sources |
| 02:06.31 | annma | and then do a ls |
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| 02:06.40 | DirkGently | no k3bsetup in 3.3.2 here |
| 02:06.45 | annma | ohh |
| 02:06.53 | annma | gentoo? |
| 02:07.04 | annma | I cannot imagine it's so new |
| 02:07.23 | annma | DirkGently: also gentoo? |
| 02:07.29 | yyc747 | I was under the impression that k3b was separate from KDE itself, no? |
| 02:07.29 | DirkGently | err.. 3.3.0 |
| 02:07.37 | DirkGently | suse 9.2 |
| 02:07.52 | annma | yyc747: k3b is like semi-official |
| 02:07.57 | DirkGently | k3bsetup is old |
| 02:08.11 | annma | it does not follow kde release but it's the best burning tool in Linux |
| 02:08.20 | annma | so why don't you have it? |
| 02:08.33 | annma | DirkGently: I don't get it, why is it missing? |
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| 02:09.04 | tbird | hi all |
| 02:09.30 | tbird | im getting this error when trying to startkde |
| 02:09.32 | tbird | startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation. |
| 02:09.32 | tbird | Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory |
| 02:09.32 | tbird | ksmserver: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/./libGLcore.so.1: invalid ELF header |
| 02:09.52 | annma | hmmm |
| 02:09.56 | annma | distro? |
| 02:09.57 | tbird | im using 3.3.2 |
| 02:10.03 | tbird | slack 10.1 |
| 02:10.08 | DirkGently | annma: maybe settings are done a different way |
| 02:10.13 | yyc747 | DirkGently: can you help me with my problem? k3b refuses to burn cds, but cdrecord works fine |
| 02:10.19 | tbird | it worked fine before i nistalled new kernel |
| 02:10.26 | yyc747 | DirkGently: I get an error about not being able to unlock the drive |
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| 02:10.49 | msg43 | hi |
| 02:10.50 | annma | settings? |
| 02:10.55 | nutshell42 | tbird: try turning dma off |
| 02:10.59 | tbird | and glx dont work even though i installed the nvidia drivers and they are patched |
| 02:11.19 | msg43 | I'm tryint to add a mp3 to k3b and it saying it an unvailed format but it ends in .mp3 and I'm able to play it in a music player |
| 02:11.37 | tbird | nutshell42: how do i do that ? |
| 02:12.00 | Dhraakellian | what's with all the k3b questions tonight? |
| 02:12.12 | DirkGently | yyc747: sorry.. I don't know k3b |
| 02:12.46 | tbird | msg43: i had them probs seems that certain ways some mp3s are maned have that affect try simplifying the name |
| 02:12.48 | nutshell42 | hdparm -d 0 /dev/hda (or hdb or whatever you use) |
| 02:13.01 | nutshell42 | but if it's always the same file it's probably something different |
| 02:13.02 | msg43 | tbird, wil try |
| 02:13.05 | tbird | thnx nutshell42 ill try that |
| 02:13.14 | DirkGently | I just proofread the code and convert to British English |
| 02:13.30 | nutshell42 | hope it helps but I'm not too hopeful =/ |
| 02:13.35 | tbird | heh |
| 02:14.44 | nutshell42 | fsck, just found a solution to his problem =/ |
| 02:14.45 | msg43 | renaming it didn't fix it |
| 02:15.40 | annma | yyc747: # chmod +s /usr/bin/cdrecord |
| 02:15.40 | annma | # chmod +s /usr/bin/cdrdao |
| 02:15.42 | nutshell42 | hmm, I've got a problem too, kwrite, konqueror and some others are taking ages to start. I think I heard somewhere it could be a problem with the network but I'm not sure |
| 02:15.50 | nutshell42 | does anyone know more? |
| 02:16.30 | annma | yyc747: with google I see lots of gentoo users looking for k3bsetup but no answer from gentoo people |
| 02:16.40 | msg43 | is there good burning program (to make audio cd) execpt for k3b cause I'm have some troubles with k3b |
| 02:16.58 | nutshell42 | msg43: xcdroast |
| 02:17.05 | nutshell42 | it's ui is crap |
| 02:17.11 | nutshell42 | and it's somewhat complicated to use |
| 02:17.19 | annma | msg43: what troubles? |
| 02:17.26 | nutshell42 | but if it can't burn your cd something's really wrong with your system |
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| 02:17.52 | msg43 | i won't add a mp3 it says it not a vailid file |
| 02:18.03 | msg43 | but I ran the file command and got /home/matthew/Desktop/07-she.mp3: MP3, 192 kBits, 44.1 kHz, Stereo |
| 02:18.36 | DirkGently | is there really no dvd player in Linux? |
| 02:19.36 | annma | yyc747: 30 Nov 2003; Caleb Tennis <caleb@gentoo.org> k3b-0.10.2.ebuild: |
| 02:19.36 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.39 | Blissex | DirkGently: depends. There are many high quality ones that can play any region 0 DVD |
| 02:19.55 | annma | so in Nov 2003 the k3bsetup program was in gentoo ebuild |
| 02:19.56 | Blissex | DirkGently: and one commercial one that can legally play non-region 1 DVDs. |
| 02:20.29 | Blissex | DirkGently: also, there are unofficial, an illegal in some countries, plugins that allow playing non region 0 movies. |
| 02:20.36 | nutshell42 | hmm, googling for my problem found lots of ramblings about how slow kde is. When I say kwrite and konqueror take forever, I mean *forever*. More than a minute for every window |
| 02:20.43 | DirkGently | how come I can dowload a free one for Windows? |
| 02:22.27 | msg43 | how do I convert a mp3 to another format? |
| 02:22.39 | annma | vlc is region free for windows and linux |
| 02:22.52 | annma | thanks god there is vlc |
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| 02:23.27 | Pablo22 | hey people |
| 02:24.07 | Pablo22 | i've changed my dpi resolution on gnome to 100 dpi......... the thing is that fonts don't look the same in KDE's 100 dpi than in Gnome's 100 dpi |
| 02:24.10 | Pablo22 | how's that so? |
| 02:24.23 | annma | is the font the same? |
| 02:24.26 | Pablo22 | yes |
| 02:24.31 | annma | screenshot? |
| 02:24.39 | DirkGently | lol.. just gg'd for vlc... got: http://www.google.com/sorry/ |
| 02:24.45 | Pablo22 | i change my KDE dpi resolution by changing xresources |
| 02:25.08 | SadEagle | Pablo22: AFAIK, gnome ignores the dpi setting |
| 02:25.08 | Pablo22 | *Xresources |
| 02:25.26 | Pablo22 | yeah... i know, i changed my dpi setting on gnome by using their gconf thing |
| 02:25.29 | annma | http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ |
| 02:25.33 | SadEagle | and I am not sure we use Xresources |
| 02:25.41 | SadEagle | we just query X, IIRC |
| 02:25.56 | Pablo22 | i really like how fonts look like in gnome and i would like to see that in kde... but for same reason, 100 dpi in gnome look different than 100 dpi in kde |
| 02:25.59 | annma | DirkGently: what free player is region free on windows? |
| 02:26.19 | annma | Pablo22: read what SadEagle said |
| 02:26.35 | Pablo22 | what did he mean by that? |
| 02:26.54 | SadEagle | that what matters is what your X server is set to |
| 02:26.54 | Pablo22 | oh |
| 02:27.06 | Pablo22 | well, kde do uses xresources coz when i change it, fonts change |
| 02:27.19 | Pablo22 | so, in a way, kde is using it........ or i fonts shouldn't change when i change the dpi thing |
| 02:27.35 | DirkGently | annma: dunno about region free, but windvd plays region 2 |
| 02:27.56 | SadEagle | that seems quite weird, since the code uses stuff like DisplayWidthMM from Xlib |
| 02:27.59 | annma | ah I am interrested in region free as I moved from region2 to region1 |
| 02:28.41 | Pablo22 | another weird thing is that when i go to KDE's control center in the info/X server area, i read that dpi resolution is 104x113 |
| 02:29.28 | Blissex | Pablo22: entirely possible. |
| 02:30.52 | Pablo22 | what's the file kde checks for the dpi resolution? --if you don't think it's xresources-- |
| 02:30.57 | SadEagle | Pablo22: well, that's what X uses, and what my reading of Qt code suggests KDE uses. |
| 02:30.57 | Blissex | Pablo22: the DPI is set by dividing the pixel size of the screen by the detected or declared size in mm of the display, and then scaling to inches. |
| 02:30.59 | SadEagle | Pablo22: not a file. |
| 02:31.10 | straw | /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 02:31.12 | SadEagle | What Blissex said --- it asks X about display geometry |
| 02:31.16 | straw | DisplaySize 304 228 |
| 02:31.20 | Blissex | Pablo22: KDE gets the DPI from the X server. chec 'xdpyinfo | less' |
| 02:31.34 | straw | that gives me 96 dpi on 1152x864 |
| 02:31.43 | straw | or 96x96 |
| 02:32.05 | Blissex | Pablo22: you can force the DPI, instead of letting it be calculated. There are various HOWTOs etc. |
| 02:32.08 | Pablo22 | i get 104x133 |
| 02:32.12 | nutshell42 | straw: what do I do if x.org ignores the DisplaySize variable |
| 02:32.38 | nutshell42 | I always get 96x96 dpi even though I use 1280x1024 on a 4:3 monitor |
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| 02:32.44 | Pablo22 | i don't get why my fonts look different when i modify the xresources file then |
| 02:32.52 | straw | Xorg isn't ignoring anything |
| 02:34.23 | straw | DisplayWidth = (W / 96) * 25.4 |
| 02:34.31 | straw | DisplayHeight = (H / 96) * 25.4 |
| 02:34.58 | nutshell42 | straw: DisplaySize 400 300 (in the monitor section, directly below the identifier, is that the correct location?) |
| 02:35.10 | nutshell42 | (++) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (100, 100) |
| 02:35.14 | nutshell42 | from the log |
| 02:35.39 | straw | yup |
| 02:36.37 | nutshell42 | oops, sorry, didn't read your post |
| 02:36.43 | nutshell42 | but that doesn't make sense |
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| 02:37.24 | nutshell42 | why 96? If I tell the system the correct display size shouldn't it use it to get correct dpis |
| 02:37.36 | nutshell42 | depending on my resolution |
| 02:37.40 | nutshell42 | tbird: send you a memo |
| 02:37.48 | tbird | k |
| 02:38.01 | straw | DisplayWidth = (W / 100) * 25.4 |
| 02:38.20 | nutshell42 | aaaaargh, sorry again, it's late, too late apparently |
| 02:38.27 | nutshell42 | I'm stupid |
| 02:39.42 | nutshell42 | so you say it applies the display size *after* it set the dpi? help someone who should have been in bed hours ago =) |
| 02:39.56 | nutshell42 | the problem is, xine displays black bars at the bottom and at the top |
| 02:40.10 | nutshell42 | they vanish if I set the resolution to 1280x960 (which is 4:3) |
| 02:40.20 | nutshell42 | but I prefer 1024 because the fonts look better |
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| 02:41.48 | nutshell42 | so I need a way to set different horizontal and vertical dpi values |
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| 02:43.43 | tbird | nutshell42: thnx ill try that now |
| 02:43.50 | nutshell42 | hope it helps |
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| 02:45.42 | tbird | me too |
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| 02:47.10 | rodia | hi |
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| 03:09.15 | parph | I have a weird problem, WHen I added a program to the kde menu it appears twice, and if I try deleting one entry, both vanish. Anyone run into this problem? |
| 03:09.39 | Venson | parph: start by telling the version of kde you're using :P |
| 03:09.46 | parph | oh sorry |
| 03:09.57 | annma | parph: I got a user yesterday that had all his entried twice |
| 03:09.58 | parph | 3.3.2 |
| 03:10.02 | annma | distro? |
| 03:10.05 | parph | suse |
| 03:10.07 | parph | 9.2 |
| 03:10.35 | parph | any way around it? |
| 03:10.37 | annma | hmm, I don't recall if it was suse |
| 03:10.38 | Venson | login to commandline. Move ~/.local/config to another place, log into X....see if your problem persists? |
| 03:11.04 | Venson | oops |
| 03:11.05 | MrGrim | anyone here use a turtle beach audiotron? |
| 03:11.17 | Venson | ~/.config/menus/<whatever> |
| 03:11.29 | parph | what does that do venson |
| 03:11.30 | Venson | hey annma |
| 03:11.46 | parph | what do I type in place of whatever |
| 03:11.46 | Venson | parph: it's the menus file...see if you have more that one in ~/.config/menus ? |
| 03:11.53 | annma | hi Venson |
| 03:12.10 | Venson | parph: should be "applications-kmenuedit.menu" |
| 03:12.40 | Venson | tab-complete has spoilt me |
| 03:12.41 | parph | i'll do a find for that file |
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| 03:13.11 | Venson | hey annma ....you're the maintainer of kdegames? |
| 03:13.17 | r00tsh3ll | how can i take off this effect over kmenu icons? |
| 03:13.22 | r00tsh3ll | kde 3.4 |
| 03:13.26 | annma | Venson: no! kdeedu |
| 03:13.33 | annma | I looked a bit into games |
| 03:13.40 | annma | but there's too much to do! |
| 03:13.45 | Venson | annma: oh ok...you've coded some games? i remember you talked about KHangman earlier |
| 03:13.50 | Venson | i see |
| 03:13.58 | parph | hehe, khangman |
| 03:13.58 | annma | KHangMan is in kdeedu |
| 03:14.05 | annma | yes I coded it |
| 03:14.13 | r00tsh3ll | when i click in a icon at menu appears a box wth the icon bigger and one short description.. how can i take it of? |
| 03:14.33 | Venson | hehe...i'm all confused. but ok. that's cool. was wondering if you (or anyone else) would be interested in coding another game |
| 03:14.36 | annma | r00tsh3ll: right click on the panel and go into configure |
| 03:14.45 | annma | Venson: a kid game? |
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| 03:14.56 | Venson | annma: hmm...sure. Memory? Ever play it? |
| 03:14.59 | annma | kdeedu is specialized in kid stuff |
| 03:15.07 | annma | Venson: lol yes! see Kard |
| 03:15.16 | Venson | :$ already there huh? |
| 03:15.29 | annma | will be redone more nicely now that we have a cool artist in kdeedu |
| 03:15.36 | r00tsh3ll | annma, so? |
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| 03:15.56 | annma | http://edu.kde.org/kard/screenshots.php |
| 03:16.05 | r00tsh3ll | uh i found it |
| 03:16.09 | annma | r00tsh3ll: are you in the configuration dialog? |
| 03:16.19 | r00tsh3ll | annma, thanks |
| 03:16.19 | annma | r00tsh3ll: see! |
| 03:16.23 | annma | :) |
| 03:16.33 | Venson | ty annma ...i'm using kde on slack..and i dont see kard. Guess it's not part of the default deployment yet? |
| 03:16.39 | annma | Venson: that was my 1st prog ever |
| 03:16.49 | annma | no, not yet |
| 03:16.58 | Venson | annma: cool...looks nice to me |
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| 03:17.11 | annma | will be cooler soon |
| 03:17.14 | Venson | annma: you working on any games atm? |
| 03:17.33 | annma | I need to rewrite KHangMan code |
| 03:17.40 | annma | as it's hmm messy |
| 03:17.49 | annma | and the design will change |
| 03:18.02 | annma | we started a Simon Say for young kid |
| 03:18.29 | annma | http://edu.kde.org/ksimon/pics/ksimon.png |
| 03:18.53 | annma | Venson: we would like to have a platform with several kids games |
| 03:18.53 | Venson | annma: you're good with this stuff :) |
| 03:18.57 | SadEagle | annma: a game about tronical? ;-) |
| 03:19.03 | annma | lol |
| 03:19.18 | annma | Venson: this new design is from a new artist we have |
| 03:19.42 | annma | he is very nice and very good and flexible |
| 03:19.46 | parph | can i cut and paste something small |
| 03:19.52 | Venson | yeah. it looks really nice |
| 03:19.59 | Venson | attractive and colorful |
| 03:20.04 | annma | yes |
| 03:20.26 | annma | the artist community is probably the latest great thing in kde |
| 03:20.34 | parph | <Menu> |
| 03:20.34 | parph | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.34 | parph | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.34 | parph | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.34 | parph | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.34 | parph | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.36 | parph | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.38 | parph | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.40 | parph | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.44 | parph | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.46 | Venson | parph: do not paste in the channel....use #flood or pastebin.com |
| 03:20.46 | parph | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.48 | parph | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.56 | parph | oh sorry, i thought someone said yes |
| 03:21.07 | Venson | parph: 3 lines is small :P |
| 03:21.25 | parph | i guess |
| 03:21.42 | Venson | is that all in your .config/..../appl-*.menu file? |
| 03:21.47 | parph | no a sample |
| 03:21.53 | parph | k3b appears twice |
| 03:22.13 | parph | I was wondering if something in there that I pasted can be removed, to remove the second k3b entry |
| 03:22.23 | Venson | right....just move this file to some other place and restart kde. should be created again |
| 03:22.48 | parph | oh i can do that, won't it screw it up if it can't find the menu? |
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| 03:22.56 | annma | parph: that was many lines |
| 03:22.58 | parph | menu file rather |
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| 03:23.19 | tbird | nutshell42: that link ya gave me fixed my prob thnx again |
| 03:23.31 | nutshell42 | np |
| 03:23.39 | Venson | parph: should be recreated. If not, you can always move the file back like i said |
| 03:23.48 | parph | oh ok, thanks venson |
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| 03:25.15 | humbolt | what is the name of the app which is executed on alt + f2, the one that you can start apps from? |
| 03:26.20 | annma | you mean the name of the executable? |
| 03:26.21 | SadEagle | it's not a separate app, it's part of kdesktop |
| 03:26.30 | annma | or it's affectionate nickname |
| 03:26.38 | aseigo | minicli |
| 03:26.45 | annma | we call it the minicli |
| 03:26.53 | nutshell42 | tbird: I'm always glad if I can help, especially if it's a strange problem like you had. I had the problem that applications took minutes to start and I couldn't find a solution anywhere, something like that can drive you mad |
| 03:27.03 | nutshell42 | (fam was the problem in my case btw.) |
| 03:27.07 | aseigo | it puts lotion on the minicli |
| 03:27.33 | tbird | nutshell42: yeah seems weird that SMP support fixed the prob though but eh it did |
| 03:27.34 | humbolt | yes |
| 03:27.56 | humbolt | the gui |
| 03:28.08 | humbolt | the gui executable |
| 03:28.38 | humbolt | sorry, did not read well |
| 03:28.54 | nutshell42 | tbird: I don't use slackware but as far as I understood the problem, it was that you don't recompile the modules with the kernel, is that correct? |
| 03:29.16 | humbolt | is there a way to start this gui from the console? |
| 03:29.31 | tbird | nutshell42: yeah i dont use modules |
| 03:31.34 | humbolt | I want to start this app via nx, so I need only one nxclient config and can start whatever I want afterwards |
| 03:34.02 | humbolt | It would be so cool, if NX would be fully integrated into KDE! Imagine you could add a K-Menu button from a remote system in your local kicker! You choose an app and it starts on the other machine and is exported back to you! |
| 03:34.37 | humbolt | can I actually start the K-menu somehow as floating app? |
| 03:37.56 | aseigo | no. it's part of kicker. |
| 03:38.03 | aseigo | you could fairly easily turn it INTO a stand alone app though |
| 03:38.48 | aseigo | and yes, full NX integration would be cool |
| 03:38.55 | aseigo | rootless mode needs to get finished first though |
| 03:39.15 | aseigo | and it needs autodicovery and some way of announcing it's usage to the apps it hosts |
| 03:42.07 | Alethes | gpgme_op_decrypt_verify() returned this error code: 152 |
| 03:42.18 | Alethes | anybody ever seen this when trying to use gpg with kmail? |
| 03:42.36 | humbolt | aseigo: do you know about knx? I could not find a trace on the freenx pages except for the name mentioned? |
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| 03:43.50 | aseigo | humbolt: yeah.. it's stillin kdenonbeta. it'll probably be in 3.5 |
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| 03:44.12 | moldy | what specific file contains the kmenu? |
| 03:44.17 | humbolt | IC |
| 03:44.42 | aseigo | moldy: several do. what is your actual need? |
| 03:44.51 | humbolt | and this is going to be a nomachine nxclient or something more integrated? |
| 03:45.02 | moldy | i'd like to edit it... however kmenuedit seems to be unable to do so |
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| 03:45.38 | aseigo | moldy: what OS? |
| 03:45.42 | moldy | gentoo |
| 03:45.47 | aseigo | humbolt: something more integrated. |
| 03:45.51 | moldy | linux obviously |
| 03:46.09 | aseigo | ah. gentoo. sorry, don't have the time to trouble shoot hand made systems. i'm sure someone else will help though =) |
| 03:46.21 | aseigo | the docu for the menu stuff is on freedesktop.org however |
| 03:46.27 | aseigo | you can find the full specs for how it all works there =) |
| 03:46.34 | moldy | aseigo, well im sure you have a filename i can search for at least? |
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| 03:47.30 | humbolt | aseigo: are there any docs available about what is planned for knx? |
| 03:49.27 | aseigo | humbolt: not particularly |
| 03:49.35 | aseigo | moldy: menuspec |
| 03:49.39 | snugglemonkey | it's been a few weeks since I've compiled kde. Looks like it's much more integrated as far as branding goes. kudos to those where were involved. I deleted my .kde dir to see how it would treat a new user. Looks nice from teh getgo. |
| 03:49.48 | humbolt | aseigo: you mentioned rootless mode. I just installed the new freenx version and you can at least start floating windows now. However, I do not know what exactly rootless is. |
| 03:49.54 | aseigo | snugglemonkey: =)) |
| 03:50.04 | aseigo | http://ktown.kde.org/~qwertz/kyuss_look.jpg |
| 03:50.13 | aseigo | check THAT out =) |
| 03:50.27 | snugglemonkey | B L I N G |
| 03:50.49 | aseigo | humbolt: it's the same thing, but it uses the caching and comprsesion of NX so running individual apps is actually fast |
| 03:51.06 | snugglemonkey | damn. we're gonna have to start a KDE version of "pimp my ride." |
| 03:52.01 | humbolt | so right now, that is not used? |
| 03:52.02 | Venson | Kudos.....that's the next KDE app |
| 03:52.09 | Venson | unless there is one already |
| 03:52.28 | snugglemonkey | Kudos would be a great random tip pop-up... |
| 03:53.32 | snugglemonkey | Sort of like a collector for all system and pop-up messages. Like for kopete warnings or e-mail warnings. Kudo could me the message handler. |
| 03:54.30 | aseigo | humbolt: that's right |
| 03:54.41 | aseigo | humbolt: so it's shit slow. but it's being worked on and is nearly there.. just a few more bugs left |
| 03:55.45 | humbolt | looks like it. node.conf already has an option: # When set to 1 will start nxagent in rootless mode. |
| 03:55.45 | humbolt | #ENABLE_ROOTLESS_MODE="0" |
| 03:55.52 | somekool | anyone got a problem with 3.4 taskmanager : like windows are not placed in opening order anymore ? |
| 03:55.53 | somekool | either I got group by virtual desktop or not, it does not change anything. and I have group windows disabled |
| 03:58.26 | humbolt | hui wui, ENABLE_ROOTLESS_MODE="1" speeds things up tramendously! |
| 04:03.08 | aseigo | humbolt: yep. it's there. but it's not perfect. it is a huge improvement though =) |
| 04:03.18 | aseigo | humbolt: another couple months and it should be complete, i'm sure |
| 04:03.47 | aseigo | somekool: 3.4 or CVS HEAD? |
| 04:03.54 | humbolt | problem with closing app, session seems not been closed |
| 04:05.11 | aseigo | somekool: in CVS i believe we now sort according to application name |
| 04:05.21 | aseigo | somekool: it's configurable, but still... |
| 04:05.28 | SadEagle | aseigo: what's the default? |
| 04:05.30 | aseigo | somekool: in 3.4 it's the same as its always been though |
| 04:05.38 | aseigo | SadEagle: sort according to application |
| 04:05.53 | SadEagle | aseigo: and what's the interpretation of application. Window caption? |
| 04:05.54 | aseigo | SadEagle: i'm still several months off from deciding on defaults for 3.5 |
| 04:06.11 | aseigo | SadEagle: with some heuristics.. but loosely, yes |
| 04:06.26 | SadEagle | so what happens if the caption changes? |
| 04:07.01 | aseigo | SadEagle: like the filename changes? |
| 04:07.24 | SadEagle | that, or title of website visited in konq changes |
| 04:08.34 | aseigo | ah.. no.. it's based on the window class |
| 04:09.00 | aseigo | XGetClassHint(qt_xdisplay(), _win, &hint) |
| 04:09.08 | aseigo | (where hint is an XClassHint struct) |
| 04:09.27 | aseigo | and then we get XClassHint::res_class out of that |
| 04:09.36 | SadEagle | so WM_CLASS? Well, at least it wouldn't move stuff around too much then. |
| 04:09.36 | aseigo | (this is, of course, cached in the task item) |
| 04:09.49 | aseigo | yep |
| 04:10.35 | aseigo | it works rather well... it's different... you don't get your last openned window on the end anymore.. but the utility of that is questionable compared to having windows or probable relation together |
| 04:10.50 | aseigo | jury's still out in any case =) |
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| 04:17.55 | Oleg_ | error: missing terminating ' character |
| 04:17.56 | Oleg_ | kirk.cpp:6: error: expected primary-expression before "int" |
| 04:18.14 | Oleg_ | I am thinking how to resolve the error |
| 04:18.29 | somekool | its wrong |
| 04:25.15 | Oleg_ | by the way, why is kde coded in C++ and not in python? |
| 04:25.21 | Oleg_ | or it doesn't matter? |
| 04:26.13 | Oleg_ | or python is worse than C++? |
| 04:26.59 | Dhraakellian | python is an interpreted language |
| 04:27.36 | Dhraakellian | which means that KDE would be a lot slower if everything was written in python |
| 04:27.59 | Oleg_ | what? it can't be compiled? |
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| 04:28.10 | Dhraakellian | I wouldn't be the one to ask |
| 04:28.13 | Dhraakellian | but not afaik |
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| 07:10.43 | slayerbob | :o |
| 07:10.47 | slayerbob | hullo canllaith :D |
| 07:11.46 | canllaith | :) |
| 07:11.57 | slayerbob | :P |
| 07:12.10 | canllaith | erm divxing |
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| 07:25.32 | dwango | is there a file that script that kde executes at startup in the home directory (e.g. somewhere to load a custom Xmodmap)? |
| 07:27.37 | daimoni | .kde/Autostart/ |
| 07:27.44 | daimoni | or was it /share/ too... |
| 07:27.47 | daimoni | or .xinitrc |
| 07:28.10 | straw | ~/.Xmodmap |
| 07:28.58 | dwango | straw, ah, will that be read automatically? |
| 07:29.12 | straw | yup |
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| 07:29.27 | dwango | awesome. thanks |
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| 07:46.42 | whitetiger | Is there anybody I can talk to about encoding detection in Kate (or other ed.)? |
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| 08:14.31 | underlord | this is extreemly off topic, but rest assured its going to be used to aid linux installation, i picked up an old 100mhz box off the side of the road, it powers up and boots fine to win 98, but i have no mice with serial connectors, can anyone remember what the keyboard shortcut is to get that "mousekeys" thing turned on? |
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| 08:15.31 | underlord | the enter key is also broken, so i cant even navigate through the start menu in to the settings to enable it :| |
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| 08:28.38 | kilrae | does space work? |
| 08:29.18 | mobtek | bah why can't amaroK save streams to ogg :) |
| 08:29.25 | kilrae | nm |
| 08:30.21 | underlord | space works, but win98 doesnt seem to use space in menu's to execute the selection |
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| 08:30.34 | PieD | hi |
| 08:30.47 | underlord | i have an idea though, hold alt and send the keycode manualy with numpad, might work |
| 08:30.57 | PieD | it's easy to see how much KDE rocks :) |
| 08:31.00 | PieD | just try gnome |
| 08:31.10 | PieD | and you'll understand how good KDE is ! |
| 08:31.35 | kilrae | mmm, gnome |
| 08:31.37 | PieD | evolution is really a piece of shit if you compare it to Kontact ! |
| 08:32.58 | underlord | hahahahaha, win98 closes any open menu if you press alt, ha ha ha, wow, thats so perfectly awfull! |
| 08:33.18 | kilrae | kde does that too |
| 08:33.48 | kilrae | ok, what you have to do is stick a pin inside the keyboard cable |
| 08:34.42 | kilrae | hook up a battery and send 10110000 |
| 08:34.54 | underlord | lol, screw that |
| 08:35.36 | underlord | i found a way |
| 08:35.38 | kilrae | why not just take the keyboard off the computer you're using now for a minute so you can use enter? |
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| 08:35.56 | Zeep | Hi Leute |
| 08:35.58 | underlord | different socket |
| 08:36.04 | kilrae | adapter |
| 08:36.15 | underlord | this pc uses ps2, that pc uses old huge round socket |
| 08:36.26 | kilrae | wow, i remember those |
| 08:36.32 | underlord | and i cant seem to find an adapter, might have to nick one from radioshack |
| 08:36.57 | marcusU | I had to take a knife and hack pieces of the adapter away to get it to fit with my case. |
| 08:36.58 | underlord | or just get a keyboard that isnt missing keys and without a faulty enter key |
| 08:37.00 | kilrae | i still have this freaky old power saving thing that hooks up between the keyboard and computer and turns off the monitor if you don't type for a while |
| 08:37.20 | underlord | :O |
| 08:37.25 | underlord | weird |
| 08:37.40 | underlord | why didnt they just do it in software :| |
| 08:37.46 | marcusU | I just got rid of my keyboard from 1990. Too many fluid spills and hairs in the keyboard. |
| 08:38.02 | kilrae | power saving didn't show up until the mid 90s or so |
| 08:38.12 | underlord | i suppose |
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| 08:38.18 | Flendor | Hello. |
| 08:38.51 | PieD | hi Flendor |
| 08:39.09 | Flendor | Hello PieD :) How goes? |
| 08:39.45 | Zeep | lol, power saving hardware that turns off the monitor ;-) |
| 08:40.40 | PieD | Flendor, not good : I'm using gnome (going back to KDE in a few minutes) |
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| 08:41.48 | Flendor | :/ |
| 08:41.49 | Flendor | OK |
| 08:41.52 | Zeep | ieeeeeeeeeeeek, gnome ;-) |
| 08:42.08 | PieD | Zeep, it is really horrible to use gnome |
| 08:42.15 | PieD | I don't understand how people can use it |
| 08:42.19 | daroot | hi |
| 08:42.27 | marcusU | I think my mom actually started calling CD-ROMs by their name instead "that Romulan thing." |
| 08:42.32 | daroot | with which command i switch to another channel? |
| 08:42.35 | PieD | reboot |
| 08:42.56 | marcusU | Just turn the know. |
| 08:43.02 | marcusU | the knob, I meant. |
| 08:43.12 | marcusU | daroot: Seriously, though, what are you doing? |
| 08:43.25 | Zeep | Yeah, especially the gnome default style is really just a joke - besides of the many missing features |
| 08:44.02 | daroot | is want to switch to the ubuntu channel, or is there anybody who is using ubuntu? |
| 08:44.15 | marcusU | What irc client are you using? |
| 08:44.21 | daroot | konversation |
| 08:44.25 | Zeep | just type /join #channel |
| 08:44.29 | daroot | thx |
| 08:44.41 | marcusU | KDE still does not handle my DVD+RW very well on the desktop. |
| 08:44.45 | Zeep | This works with almost every IRC client out in the wild :-) |
| 08:45.00 | marcusU | I guess I have to hand-edit the configuration file. :-( |
| 08:45.59 | marcusU | This sounds like a serious mis-feature. |
| 08:46.51 | marcusU | How am I supposed to add my DVD+RW to the desktop... KDE doesn't actually have a device for DVD+RW. |
| 08:47.42 | marcusU | Okay. Now it's working, I think. |
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| 08:49.55 | PieD | haaaaaaaa |
| 08:49.57 | PieD | my KDE... |
| 08:50.05 | PieD | I love the K way of life :) |
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| 08:51.41 | marcusU | Now you need ``KDE Desktop Maid.'' |
| 08:52.15 | pavel-simerda | Is there anybody writing czech to consult czech language related problems with kde? |
| 08:53.08 | marcusU | This is annoying. Now I have 2 icons for my DVD+RW on my desktop. |
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| 09:01.32 | Flendor | Morning :) |
| 09:01.54 | Kyur4ThItch | day +2GMT =)) |
| 09:02.50 | Kyur4ThItch | Flendor> slackware's cool! Have you upgraded to 10,1? What version of KDE is there? |
| 09:02.55 | PieD | hi Kyur4ThItch |
| 09:03.13 | Flendor | 3,2 I think.. |
| 09:03.17 | Flendor | Yes, I have 10.1 |
| 09:03.20 | canllaith | 3.3.2 :p |
| 09:03.23 | Kyur4ThItch | PieD> oh, hello :) |
| 09:03.28 | Flendor | Oh, well, yes. |
| 09:03.39 | Flendor | Sorry. |
| 09:04.01 | Kyur4ThItch | argh... I made all upgrades some months before the 10 point 1 has been released... Can't see any point in upgrading yet... :\ |
| 09:04.26 | canllaith | I still have 9.1 on one of my boxes |
| 09:04.28 | Kyur4ThItch | only if binutils and other system core stuff |
| 09:04.31 | canllaith | can't be bothered upgrading it basically :) |
| 09:04.40 | Kyur4ThItch | canllaith> respect :))) |
| 09:04.42 | slayerbob | you do ? |
| 09:04.52 | canllaith | slayerbob: aye, it's your desktop :P |
| 09:05.00 | slayerbob | ah :P |
| 09:05.53 | Flendor | LOL |
| 09:06.14 | pavel-simerda | back to your talk about slackware -- is there kde 3.3.2 on xorg? |
| 09:06.23 | Kyur4ThItch | canllaith> I'm just thinking about if it's worth of upgrading the whole system, if there's no actually urgent need in this... No... I won't do that :))) I've got better things to do :)) |
| 09:06.31 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> on xorg??? |
| 09:06.40 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> what do u mean? |
| 09:06.52 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> KDE is released by kde dot org |
| 09:07.05 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> x dot org releases X server :) |
| 09:07.14 | pavel-simerda | whether ther is xfree86 or xorg Xserver |
| 09:07.40 | canllaith | Slackware 10 and 10.1 have xorg |
| 09:07.51 | Kyur4ThItch | both |
| 09:08.01 | Kyur4ThItch | right |
| 09:08.03 | pavel-simerda | I'm sorry for my English I meant the combination of xorg and kde |
| 09:08.08 | Kyur4ThItch | Slackware 10 's version is good enough |
| 09:08.20 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> ah... that's ok, don't appologiz |
| 09:08.23 | Kyur4ThItch | e |
| 09:08.25 | Kyur4ThItch | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:08.33 | canllaith | pavel-simerda: ok slackware 10.1 has xorg 6.8.1 |
| 09:08.34 | pavel-simerda | because I am having a problem with kde (some bug in kde)... |
| 09:08.37 | canllaith | and KDE 3.3.2 |
| 09:08.55 | canllaith | There are packages for xorg 6.8.2 you can download updates for.. on slackware.com for it |
| 09:09.55 | pavel-simerda | and I have it on Debian (KDE 3.3.1 with xfree 4.3.0.) and not in Fedora (KDE 3.3.2 with xorg) |
| 09:10.11 | pavel-simerda | Sorry it was: |
| 09:10.25 | pavel-simerda | debian with kde 3.3.2, xfree |
| 09:10.37 | pavel-simerda | and fedora 3.3.2, xorg |
| 09:10.57 | pavel-simerda | fedora 3.3.1 |
| 09:11.31 | pavel-simerda | again the same mistake |
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| 09:12.28 | pavel-simerda | So who of you has KDE 3.3.2 and xorg? |
| 09:12.52 | daimoni | 3.3.2 is so... old :) |
| 09:13.14 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> me |
| 09:13.16 | terra1 | i got 3.4rc1 and xorg if that helps you |
| 09:13.26 | daimoni | me too.. |
| 09:13.59 | terra1 | but may you guys help me... i once had that program for KDE to set the translucency for x.org with the composite extension |
| 09:13.59 | daimoni | pavel-simerda: most likely your bug is because of your distro - fedora and debian both patch all software broken |
| 09:14.09 | terra1 | but now i don't have it anymore.. in which package is it included |
| 09:14.18 | daimoni | compile from vanilla sources and most likely bug is gone |
| 09:14.19 | pavel-simerda | maybe later... but i am more interested in 3.3.2 |
| 09:14.58 | pavel-simerda | daimoni: It is no help for me... and fedora works fine |
| 09:15.21 | daimoni | yes, well, not suprised if something is broken because of debian's patches ;) |
| 09:15.29 | Kyur4ThItch | terra1> this is an X server extension |
| 09:15.42 | Kyur4ThItch | terra1> it might be compiled already with this extnsion |
| 09:15.54 | Kyur4ThItch | terra1> if no, you gottat do it yourself :) |
| 09:15.56 | pavel-simerda | Could you do a simple test for me? I don't expect you use czech keyboard normally |
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| 09:16.28 | terra1 | Kyur4ThItch, i know, thank you, and i got it, but the problem is that there was a KDE-app to manage the values |
| 09:17.00 | Kyur4ThItch | terra1> sorry, I haven't been aware of its existance :) |
| 09:17.25 | terra1 | np ;) |
| 09:17.37 | Kyur4ThItch | terra1> did it work stable for you? |
| 09:18.34 | terra1 | yes it did |
| 09:18.38 | pavel-simerda | Just enable czech keyboard (cs) in kxkb |
| 09:19.37 | pavel-simerda | daimoni or Kyur4ThItch: I'd be very happy to know the results on 3.3.2 |
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| 09:19.48 | cozy | hi all |
| 09:19.58 | pavel-simerda | Then open Kate or Kwrite and tell me |
| 09:20.10 | pavel-simerda | please |
| 09:21.05 | daimoni | sorry, i'm on OS X now, cannot test... i have kde/linux at work only :) |
| 09:21.05 | cozy | i have a artds question. i've set my alsa with dmixer, and i want to make artds play thru it. what device should i give ? |
| 09:21.23 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> ok, hold on, please. I've an urgent talk.. I'll brb, ok? |
| 09:21.34 | cozy | ..'cause the default one, says the device is busy |
| 09:22.16 | pavel-simerda | Kyur4ThItch: I'll wait, thanks |
| 09:23.32 | terra1 | ah |
| 09:23.36 | terra1 | Kyur4ThItch, i got it |
| 09:23.37 | terra1 | finally |
| 09:23.56 | terra1 | its included in kde now and not as an own app |
| 09:24.17 | pavel-simerda | terra1: if you want to try it also - to know if the latest works |
| 09:24.45 | terra1 | pavel-simerda, what ;) |
| 09:25.09 | terra1 | what shall i try |
| 09:25.35 | pavel-simerda | switch to Czech keyboard, then open Kate and then i'll tell you how to test for the bug... |
| 09:25.44 | terra1 | ok... wait a little momen plz |
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| 09:25.53 | Kyur4ThItch | terra1> what the name of the app? |
| 09:26.07 | slayerbob | hiya sredna |
| 09:26.13 | terra1 | ok ready |
| 09:26.23 | terra1 | Kyur4ThItch, it's included in the KDE Control Center |
| 09:26.31 | Flendor | Hello anders :) |
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| 09:26.31 | sredna | Hello slayerbob |
| 09:26.35 | terra1 | pavel-simerda, temm me the bug |
| 09:26.40 | sredna | ... and everyone else |
| 09:27.15 | pavel-simerda | terra1: use the key normally for 8... |
| 09:27.22 | terra1 | ok |
| 09:27.28 | terra1 | ready ?9 |
| 09:27.33 | terra1 | :) |
| 09:27.38 | terra1 | i get á |
| 09:27.57 | pavel-simerda | now the key for = and then 'a' |
| 09:28.07 | pavel-simerda | it should be the same character then |
| 09:28.18 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> ok, here i'm |
| 09:28.21 | terra1 | no... i got a german layout |
| 09:28.25 | terra1 | that may be a problem |
| 09:28.50 | terra1 | ok wait |
| 09:28.51 | terra1 | i got it |
| 09:28.53 | pavel-simerda | It must by Czech (cz or cz_querty) |
| 09:29.20 | terra1 | ok |
| 09:29.23 | terra1 | yes yes |
| 09:29.28 | pavel-simerda | and the same should be 3 and shift+=, s |
| 09:29.30 | terra1 | i mean my keyboard itself has a german layout |
| 09:29.38 | terra1 | and i get the á again |
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| 09:29.54 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> sh*t... listen, I can't really help you, because of technical stuff. I do not use KDE's native keyboard switcher. I use xkb instead, that is my keyboard layouts are set in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 09:29.56 | pavel-simerda | nono, you get š |
| 09:30.00 | terra1 | no |
| 09:30.01 | terra1 | i get an á |
| 09:30.17 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> I'm really sorry, but I don't feel like changing my configuration right now :) |
| 09:30.23 | pavel-simerda | s with caron? |
| 09:30.28 | pavel-simerda | Kyur4ThItch: alright |
| 09:30.52 | terra1 | you see |
| 09:30.53 | terra1 | i get this |
| 09:30.54 | terra1 | áá |
| 09:31.00 | terra1 | i can also give you a screenshot ?9 |
| 09:31.07 | pavel-simerda | I see a square only |
| 09:31.18 | terra1 | well |
| 09:31.19 | terra1 | sorry |
| 09:31.25 | terra1 | i'm gonna give you a screenie |
| 09:31.45 | pavel-simerda | But its only fonts matter, can you get a charcode of it? |
| 09:31.52 | terra1 | no ;) |
| 09:31.53 | terra1 | wait |
| 09:32.14 | terra1 | http://www.pixel-pics.de/?p=show_picture.php&picture=1110704097.png |
| 09:32.14 | pavel-simerda | or maybe save it in a file and send to me? |
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| 09:34.46 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> I guess Czech layout matches special symbols, so first of all you need a font with these special glyphs |
| 09:34.55 | pavel-simerda | I see two times the á |
| 09:35.03 | pavel-simerda | on the image |
| 09:35.32 | pavel-simerda | Kyur4ThItch: yes but I need only the charcodes |
| 09:36.04 | terra1 | how do i _get_ the charcode |
| 09:36.30 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> what do you expect to get instead of 2nd a symbol? |
| 09:37.14 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> can you get it by pressing some other key ? |
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| 09:37.29 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> if you can, than mapping is wrong |
| 09:37.47 | pavel-simerda | Kyur4ThItch: Actually it seems it works.... because the error was printing simple 's' instead of 's' with caron |
| 09:38.08 | pavel-simerda | terra1: try to save int in a file and open with khexedit |
| 09:38.22 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> have you tried some other keyboard layout? winkeys for example |
| 09:38.36 | Kyur4ThItch | I can use de only with winkeys layout |
| 09:39.55 | pavel-simerda | I have tried the two layouts for czech, several keyboard models (which I used as a workaround in some older versions) and everything works in all but kde applications |
| 09:41.05 | Kyur4ThItch | to be honest, It's much easier for me to configure xorg.conf (I use 4 langs: us,ru,de,ua) |
| 09:41.25 | Kyur4ThItch | Will it suffice for ya? :) If so, try to edit your configuration file of X server |
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| 09:42.27 | pavel-simerda | Actually not if kde apps will not work, kxkb should do no more than call setxkbmap |
| 09:43.06 | Kyur4ThItch | correct, but still why do you think I don't use it? ;) |
| 09:43.28 | Kyur4ThItch | 'cuz its behaviour is weird.... :))) |
| 09:43.43 | Kyur4ThItch | Try to configure xconfig |
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| 09:43.58 | Kyur4ThItch | 4Random Fortune: I still maintain the point that designing a monolithic kernel in 1991 is a fundamental error. Be thankful you are not my student. You would not get a high grade for such a design :-) -- Andrew Tanenbaum to Linus Torvalds |
| 09:45.27 | pavel-simerda | terra1: Do you have something? |
| 09:46.15 | Flendor | Er, what is a monolithic kernel? :P |
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| 09:46.50 | alexissoft | monolithic kernel is the reverse of microkernel |
| 09:47.02 | alexissoft | a monolithic kernel is a big kernel with all your drivers into |
| 09:47.06 | spiral | hi |
| 09:47.16 | alexissoft | (approximatly, the modules helps) |
| 09:47.28 | alexissoft | a microkernel is a very little kernel |
| 09:47.33 | alexissoft | and you have services around |
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| 09:47.54 | alexissoft | for example, with a microkernel if you IP stack get crashed, it is automatically relaunched |
| 09:47.58 | alexissoft | your system is not crashed |
| 09:48.03 | alexissoft | (like in the Hurd) |
| 09:48.12 | StevenR | so Linux is actually a modular monolithic kernel |
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| 09:48.14 | alexissoft | in a monolithic kernel this thing is impossible |
| 09:48.15 | alexissoft | yes |
| 09:48.49 | PieD | alexissoft: a monolithic kernel isn't a kernel with modules |
| 09:48.58 | PieD | that fortune is old |
| 09:48.58 | Flendor | Oh, OK |
| 09:49.02 | Flendor | Thank you :) |
| 09:49.04 | PieD | at this time, linux had no modules |
| 09:49.13 | alexissoft | but a kernel with modules is monolithic too ! |
| 09:49.21 | PieD | a monolithic kernel with modules is a modular monolithic |
| 09:49.29 | alexissoft | modules for a monolithic kernel is a kind of microkernel |
| 09:49.37 | alexissoft | but it's monolithic too |
| 09:49.44 | Flendor | Hmm, microkernel sounds better :/ |
| 09:49.45 | PieD | if you want a true monolithic kernel, download linux < 1.2 (I'm not sure) |
| 09:49.46 | pavel-simerda | Kyur4ThItch: I could try xconfig but I would like also kxkb working |
| 09:49.51 | StevenR | alexissoft: no, it's not a microkernel |
| 09:49.52 | alexissoft | PieD: or netbsd :p |
| 09:49.55 | PieD | Flendor: alexissoft forgot something |
| 09:50.08 | Flendor | ? |
| 09:50.10 | PieD | micro kernels means that your kernel is splitted in various process |
| 09:50.12 | StevenR | alexissoft: the modules are in kernel memory space, not user space |
| 09:50.13 | pavel-simerda | Kyur4ThItch: And even when using gnome it is the same |
| 09:50.25 | Flendor | Oh. |
| 09:50.28 | alexissoft | yes |
| 09:50.31 | pavel-simerda | Kyur4ThItch: All but kde apps works perfectly |
| 09:50.32 | PieD | more work is done in userland, without rights on the hardware |
| 09:50.38 | PieD | but the problem is performances ! |
| 09:50.55 | PieD | you get inter-process communications |
| 09:50.55 | alexissoft | PieD: not so many |
| 09:51.04 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> have you tried google? :) |
| 09:51.06 | PieD | alexissoft: yet, but a few years later... |
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| 09:51.11 | alexissoft | yes yes |
| 09:51.28 | PieD | only the latest microkernels have good performances |
| 09:51.35 | alexissoft | :) |
| 09:51.40 | PieD | windows don't :p |
| 09:51.44 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> it might tell you the solution... |
| 09:51.54 | Flendor | Windows kernel is a microkernel, eh? |
| 09:52.00 | PieD | Flendor: yes |
| 09:52.03 | alexissoft | no |
| 09:52.05 | PieD | but a silly microkernel |
| 09:52.09 | alexissoft | just some NT kernels |
| 09:52.17 | PieD | NT kernels are micro kernels |
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| 09:52.21 | PieD | but bad designed |
| 09:52.37 | alexissoft | the NT included in windows xp is not a microkernel for example (i've red that) |
| 09:52.50 | panzar | anyone having burning problems with k3b? im not able to burn any cds at all. |
| 09:52.51 | PieD | you get parts of the graphical interface in the kernel |
| 09:52.56 | panzar | Cyberdrv CW058D is my burner. |
| 09:52.58 | PieD | panzar: check your rights |
| 09:53.07 | PieD | did you run the advanced configuration tool ? |
| 09:53.27 | pavel-simerda | Kyur4ThItch: I google a lot before and also during posting to IRC... no success |
| 09:53.39 | panzar | PieD: k3b setup? yes. |
| 09:53.44 | panzar | im in the burning group. |
| 09:53.46 | PieD | another problem of microkernels : the use of a hardware abstraction layer which causes less performances |
| 09:53.51 | PieD | panzar: can root burn ? |
| 09:54.01 | panzar | PieD: hm, i haven't try. hold :) |
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| 09:56.54 | Kyur4ThItch | pavel-simerda> pavel, you see. I had similar problems, and I tried a lot of things before... And I decided that it's more convenient for me to use X server configuration instead of any external GUI apps. That's the point. I use 4 keyboard layouts and am having fun :) It's pretty simple, it works for any window manager (KDE, GNOME, xfce, flux-box, blackbox, WMaker -> I tried it everywhere), and I don't have to bother myself with thinking of the specific o |
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| 10:01.57 | gregday | oh |
| 10:01.59 | gregday | a linkin park fan |
| 10:02.28 | Kyur4ThItch | ok, here we go :) |
| 10:02.33 | Kyur4ThItch | 4Random Fortune: One of the things that hamper Linux's climb to world domination is the shortage of bad Computer Role Playing Games, or CRaPGs. No operating system can be considered respectable without one. -- Brian O'Donnell, odonnllb@tcd.ie |
| 10:02.44 | Kyur4ThItch | gregday> what's wrong with LP? |
| 10:02.51 | Kyur4ThItch | gregday> :) |
| 10:02.59 | Kyur4ThItch | gregday> Don't you like Linkin Park? |
| 10:03.15 | canllaith | Heya gregday :) |
| 10:03.16 | Kyur4ThItch | sounds cool |
| 10:03.17 | gregday | besides being a manufacturered pop boy band for kids who are "angsty"? nothing at all :) |
| 10:03.30 | gregday | canllaith: hiya, you into art much? |
| 10:03.42 | canllaith | Context? :) |
| 10:03.46 | slayerbob | lol |
| 10:03.49 | gregday | sculpture of human form |
| 10:03.58 | Kyur4ThItch | gregday> Hybrid Theory is great work |
| 10:04.00 | gregday | friend of mine has some works in progress he would like feedback on |
| 10:04.14 | gregday | canllaith: http://seraphim.ecsis.net/~gregday/sculpt/images.html |
| 10:04.16 | Kyur4ThItch | gregday> as for the rest of their albums - I agree. It sounds like pop music |
| 10:04.32 | Kyur4ThItch | gregday> but anyway, I like this band |
| 10:04.40 | canllaith | oh! |
| 10:04.43 | gregday | Kyur4ThItch: as far as im concerned, "pop" means "popular" which means if its play on the radio, it's pop. |
| 10:04.45 | canllaith | It's good :) |
| 10:04.46 | Kyur4ThItch | gregday> especially I like the lyrics |
| 10:04.52 | gregday | canllaith: picture 14 will steal your soul |
| 10:05.07 | canllaith | Wow. |
| 10:05.10 | slayerbob | gregday: no student radio where you live then ? |
| 10:05.13 | Kyur4ThItch | gregday>oh, yeah... It ain't easy to classify... |
| 10:05.20 | gregday | slayerbob: :) |
| 10:05.27 | gregday | mainstream radio, then, ahem |
| 10:05.31 | slayerbob | :P |
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| 10:05.59 | canllaith | oh I see, the angel is in progress and not mutilated :P |
| 10:06.02 | gregday | canllaith: can i tell my friend he has nothing to worry about w/r/t his ability as an artist? |
| 10:06.12 | gregday | yes :) though a wounded angel would be a nice piece too |
| 10:06.38 | canllaith | gregday: I'm impressed. He's very faithfully replicated a very convincing female form |
| 10:06.52 | underlord | once on windows i saw a program that came with a usb crossover cord (didnt seem to contain any ic's or other computational devices, soo i guess it wouldnt be valid in the usb specs) that allowed you to link 2 computers like ethernet, is this something doable in linux? |
| 10:07.06 | canllaith | (looking at angel and greek2) |
| 10:07.10 | gregday | canllaith: he tells me he had to study the female body constantly for years to do this, and he wouldnt have been able to get this far without the Internet |
| 10:07.15 | canllaith | lol |
| 10:07.25 | canllaith | I have to admit, I've hunted up some scantily clad or naked females on the net myself when sketching |
| 10:07.28 | underlord | or if not is it difficult to do with serial ports, if serial would that get decent speed? |
| 10:07.31 | canllaith | Of course I have a slight advantage |
| 10:07.43 | canllaith | I can go and stand infront of the mirror and see how my own bones are held =p |
| 10:07.52 | gregday | canllaith: yeah, according to him, it's hard to find actual non-porn photos that just show bone and muscle structure |
| 10:07.57 | canllaith | Yes |
| 10:08.11 | canllaith | Although, there *are* tasteful nudes out there |
| 10:08.23 | gregday | canllaith: but that still doesn't explain the lesbian porn on his computer............... oh well, im not touching that one |
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| 10:08.33 | canllaith | lol don't want to know! :P |
| 10:08.49 | canllaith | I mostly used to draw tattoo flash |
| 10:08.54 | gregday | canllaith: my friend does the larger models, his brother does the action figures |
| 10:09.02 | gregday | they want to start a toy business |
| 10:09.04 | canllaith | and I admit to a little bit of anime characters (they're easy) |
| 10:09.15 | gregday | he did an awesome Yoda but wouldnt let me get a photo |
| 10:09.19 | canllaith | Aw that sucks |
| 10:09.27 | gregday | anime is fun because you can go way overboard |
| 10:10.34 | canllaith | I'm mostly into photography at the moment since I'll only ever be pretty mediocre at fine arts :P |
| 10:10.43 | canllaith | It's a hobby, I like sketching and it's fun but I'm not terribly good heh |
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| 10:11.07 | gregday | well this guy is trying to turn it into a job |
| 10:11.16 | gregday | he's currently a hotel night manager for income |
| 10:11.18 | canllaith | He's damn good. |
| 10:11.20 | gregday | and spends the weekends in his studio |
| 10:11.27 | gregday | yeah i keep telling him that but he doesn't think so |
| 10:11.42 | gregday | he finished with a Masters Degree at the NY Academy of Art |
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| 10:11.49 | gregday | specialized in freaking bronze human form |
| 10:11.59 | gregday | and he's still acting like he can't do good stuff |
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| 10:12.18 | canllaith | he's nuts! :P Tell him I adore his partly finished angel |
| 10:12.24 | gregday | when he starts a family.....his kids will have the COOLEST toys ever |
| 10:12.38 | gregday | im gonna try to commission him to do a Cylon Raider from Battlestar Galactica for me |
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| 10:13.50 | gregday | he's also doing a Samus (from Metroid) but didnt want it photographed yet either |
| 10:13.55 | gregday | he's doing Samus without her helmet |
| 10:13.59 | gregday | about 16" |
| 10:14.05 | lafayette84 | I don't know why kscd doesn't retrieve freedb entries |
| 10:14.19 | lafayette84 | I tried also to remove kscdrc file and starting from scratvh |
| 10:15.32 | gregday | so anyone see the horrible "Nero" CD burning app for Linux? apparently it's a GTK2 interface that's jsut a frontend for cdrtools, cdrdao, etc.. |
| 10:19.00 | canllaith | ? |
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| 10:19.24 | slayerbob | oh god |
| 10:19.33 | slayerbob | there is a movie called "freddie vs jason" |
| 10:19.34 | slayerbob | :| |
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| 10:21.41 | ExitMenu | lo I am new to linux and was wondering if some one here could tell me any big benfits other than personal choice as to why I should use KDE |
| 10:22.05 | canllaith | It's free software so just try it out and see if you like it |
| 10:22.50 | gregday | great answer, avoids flamage :) |
| 10:23.07 | ExitMenu | ok shall do |
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| 10:31.12 | PieD | does somebody here knows how to explore Javascript methods, objects and properties using Konqueror ? |
| 10:31.41 | PieD | for instance, I'd like to be able to see that document has the method getElementsByTagName |
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| 11:02.54 | sredna | Re |
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| 11:06.08 | sredna | So, kded went beserk. Brb |
| 11:06.12 | PieD | nobody have an answer for my question ? |
| 11:06.16 | PieD | [11:31:30] <PieD> does somebody here knows how to explore Javascript methods, objects and properties using Konqueror ? |
| 11:06.18 | PieD | [11:31:59] <PieD> for instance, I'd like to be able to see that document has the method getElementsByTagName |
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| 11:17.56 | GoGi | When i use xrandr to rotate the screen, the kpanel and the desktop etc are cut, and I have a black bar on the bottom |
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| 11:18.47 | sredna | Trying once more.. |
| 11:19.11 | sredna | This time it seems I managed to kill the beserk kded :o |
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| 11:24.17 | fanm | ń |
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| 11:45.40 | anisX | hello people |
| 11:45.43 | anisX | greetings =) |
| 11:47.26 | gregday | ...anis? |
| 11:47.29 | gregday | ew |
| 11:47.46 | anisX | hello gregday |
| 11:48.23 | anisX | can somebody help me with amarok ? i think xine engine and arts engine does not function in my system :( |
| 11:48.38 | mobtek | try gstreamer-oss or alsa |
| 11:49.04 | anisX | i just has xine and arts engine only |
| 11:49.24 | anisX | i cant play mp3 with amaroK now , but i amarok installed successfully |
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| 11:56.27 | slayerbob | burn amarok ? |
| 11:56.49 | mobtek | anisX: install gstreamer plugins |
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| 11:57.11 | Shearer | hello |
| 11:57.41 | anisX | mobtek: can i install that plugin using yum ? |
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| 11:58.33 | mobtek | no idea dude |
| 11:58.38 | mobtek | I'm using gentoo |
| 11:58.40 | mobtek | whats yum? |
| 12:00.17 | slayerbob | mobtek: it is like apt-get and urpmi |
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| 12:00.22 | slayerbob | or however it is spelt :P |
| 12:00.47 | anisX | arh..the amarok people attack me because im using fedora |
| 12:00.48 | anisX | sigh |
| 12:00.53 | slayerbob | basically downloads packages and dependencies and then installs them |
| 12:00.54 | makarakalax | no we don't |
| 12:00.59 | makarakalax | anisX: get it right |
| 12:01.05 | makarakalax | anisX: we are telling you fedora sucks |
| 12:01.11 | makarakalax | anisX: we are not attacking you |
| 12:01.17 | slayerbob | at least she is not using gentoo :P |
| 12:01.27 | anisX | naughty uncle! |
| 12:01.33 | slayerbob | :( |
| 12:01.36 | makarakalax | please don't spread fud about us |
| 12:01.55 | anisX | makarakalax: naa..i just kidding dude..newbie must be patient using linux |
| 12:01.58 | anisX | that is all |
| 12:02.05 | sredna | slayerbob: Spelt is at http://www.spelt.com/ |
| 12:02.41 | slayerbob | lol |
| 12:02.48 | sredna | Or .net, if you can read finnish :o |
| 12:03.01 | slayerbob | i can read finnish just fine |
| 12:03.11 | slayerbob | understanding and pronouncing it might be a different matter :P |
| 12:03.16 | sredna | Well, the finns have a nice picture of it |
| 12:03.22 | sredna | http://www.spelt.net/ |
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| 12:07.32 | Shearer | exists documents that speaks about the optimization of kde? |
| 12:08.08 | anisX | there are cyber war between Malaysia and Indonesia now |
| 12:08.09 | anisX | sigh.. |
| 12:08.10 | anisX | kiddo |
| 12:13.40 | Shearer | ? |
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| 12:15.09 | M-ThijZ | anisX: cyber war/ |
| 12:15.28 | anisX | uhff..i need to update the kde packages |
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| 12:16.25 | Shearer | is a stupid question? :D |
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| 12:19.57 | FlawlessX | hi, does somebody know if the new KDE 3.4 KitchenSync Konnectors can syncronize between Windows CE and KDE-PIM? |
| 12:21.18 | Shearer | tx |
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| 12:44.59 | jariep1_ | i mean kde |
| 12:45.11 | jariep1_ | kde 3.2 |
| 12:45.21 | jariep1_ | what's the name of the package? |
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| 13:38.39 | Kleggas | where do I change the background image in konqueror file browsing system? its white and if you look close you see a KDE logo. I want to remove that and just have a color but have looked everywhere in the controlcenter and konqueror settings and havent found it |
| 13:40.25 | Vandroy | Kleggas, open konqueror |
| 13:40.41 | Vandroy | then view -> configure background |
| 13:41.05 | Kleggas | gah, and here I search for hours after something that simple :( |
| 13:41.09 | Kleggas | thanx :) |
| 13:41.21 | Vandroy | ;) |
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| 13:43.29 | Vandroy | does anyone know where I can find a good superkaramba tutorial? |
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| 13:46.20 | jabba_ | hello.. could anybody please tell me if it's possibel to save the icon positions in kde? |
| 13:46.28 | jabba_ | and if yes .. how? |
| 13:47.49 | Vandroy | my icons are always in the same position and i did nothing to set it like this |
| 13:48.00 | Vandroy | try to exit saving the session |
| 13:48.16 | mobtek | yuppers |
| 13:48.54 | jabba_ | in control center "save settings..." is set :/ |
| 13:49.20 | jabba_ | but especially one icon is always not there, where is left it |
| 13:49.36 | jabba_ | but behind a superkaramba theme :/ |
| 13:51.07 | Vandroy | dunno what to say... i've never had such problem |
| 13:51.22 | Vandroy | also with superkaramba |
| 13:53.54 | jabba_ | someone told me once he had a "save-session" button in his startmenu |
| 13:54.00 | jabba_ | never saw that |
| 13:54.13 | jabba_ | 3 from the lower or sth. |
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| 13:54.32 | jabba_ | from the bottom ? |
| 13:54.38 | jabba_ | :S |
| 13:55.37 | Vandroy | i had when i used kdm |
| 13:55.56 | Vandroy | but i don't know if that is a coincidence or else |
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| 13:57.40 | sredna | jabba_: Icons positions is saved, if you haven't enabled alignment (in the desktop config menu). If you have device icons enabled (in the Desktop Behavior control panel) they may apper in new places, since they are recreated as needed |
| 13:58.23 | sredna | jabba_: The 'save session' entry in the K menu is present, if you set your session to 'restore a manually saved session' |
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| 14:01.06 | Alkis | umm, has the default behaviour of Konqueror (the web browser) changed at some point? When I try to open a web image link it loads it embeded in some app....how do I get rid of this? |
| 14:02.03 | jabba_ | thanks sredna |
| 14:02.12 | sredna | Np :) |
| 14:02.25 | jabba_ | would have gone mad here ... |
| 14:02.29 | jabba_ | :P |
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| 14:02.55 | anisX | http://mirror.leafbug.org/pub/kde/stable/3.3.2/RedHat/Fedora3/i386/ <-- what is this ? kdebase ? |
| 14:03.01 | sredna | Alkis: Look at your file associations for the image format in question, in the 'embedding' tab. Make sure to use the built in viewer if you prefer that |
| 14:05.54 | sredna | anisX: Looks like a collection of kde modules in rpm format |
| 14:06.35 | anisX | [genetics@owned eggdrop]$ rpm -q kdebase |
| 14:06.36 | anisX | kdebase-3.3.0-8 |
| 14:07.00 | anisX | sredna: does i updating my kde if are wget that file inside it ? |
| 14:07.25 | Alkis | sredna: thanks |
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| 14:08.00 | sredna | anisX: It's kde v. 3.3.2, so if you have a older version, you can update with those packages |
| 14:08.29 | anisX | sredna: does not affect my system ? |
| 14:08.32 | sredna | anisX: But you'd have to install them using rpm after downloading them. Or use yum iiutc |
| 14:09.03 | tbird | anyone know a good video joining tool |
| 14:09.05 | sredna | anisX: Well, upgrading KDE is a change, but not to lowlevel vitals I guess |
| 14:09.07 | anisX | run rpm -Fvh *.rpm in that directory ? |
| 14:09.56 | sredna | anisX: If I were you, I'd ask in #fedora - I haven't used a rpm based distro since some time. But iirc -F is --freshen |
| 14:10.14 | sredna | tbird: Mpgx |
| 14:10.17 | anisX | sredna: i do this because to play mp3 using amaroK |
| 14:10.27 | anisX | heh |
| 14:11.05 | sredna | anisX: AmaroK is not part of the core KDE distribution. And I think it would not help, I guess fedora does not support mp3 pr default (because it is not a free format) |
| 14:11.18 | tbird | sredna: i chk it out thnx |
| 14:11.28 | sredna | anisX: But again, fellow fedora users will know more |
| 14:11.39 | sredna | tbird: Lemme find you a url |
| 14:11.51 | anisX | sredna: thanks a lot baby!! |
| 14:11.53 | anisX | :) |
| 14:12.00 | anisX | thanks for helping |
| 14:12.26 | sredna | Np :) |
| 14:13.56 | sredna | tbird: http://freshmeat.net/projects/mpgtx/ |
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| 14:18.53 | anisX | sredna: can i use kompmgr with kde3.3 ? |
| 14:19.36 | PieD | anisX: perhaps |
| 14:19.46 | PieD | but your kwin won't launch it for you |
| 14:19.58 | PieD | your kwin won't give you an easy way to configure it |
| 14:20.10 | anisX | but its still can be used ? |
| 14:20.15 | PieD | it can |
| 14:20.26 | anisX | but its hard to configure it ? |
| 14:20.42 | PieD | without kwin 3.4, it is harder |
| 14:21.03 | anisX | can u teach me if im not using kwin 3.4 ? ;) |
| 14:21.23 | PieD | you're not using kwin 3.4 |
| 14:21.28 | PieD | because it is in KDE 3.4 |
| 14:21.31 | sredna | anisX: You can possibly find a version on kde-apps.org that will work with 3.3 |
| 14:21.54 | PieD | sredna: yes he can |
| 14:22.01 | PieD | KWin translucency patch |
| 14:22.08 | PieD | on kdelook also |
| 14:22.23 | PieD | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=16114 |
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| 14:22.39 | anisX | i like transparency! |
| 14:22.49 | anisX | sredna: 100%! |
| 14:22.53 | sredna | Lol |
| 14:22.56 | PieD | but you'll have to recompile your KWin |
| 14:23.23 | sredna | anisX: It requires a fast vc with acceleration, eg a nvidia card |
| 14:23.28 | anisX | PieD: hmm..now i updating my kdebase , configure amarok back..and try with the kompmgr |
| 14:23.40 | PieD | updating your kdebase ? |
| 14:23.44 | PieD | to which version ? |
| 14:23.47 | sredna | My matrox card is nowhere near capable |
| 14:24.14 | anisX | [x11] [version] [screen #0] 1024x768pixels @ 24bpp |
| 14:25.16 | anisX | im using MSI Nvidia Geforce 4 FX5200 |
| 14:25.51 | anisX | [x11] [version] [screen #0] 1024x768pixels @ 24bpp |
| 14:25.54 | anisX | grrr |
| 14:26.07 | anisX | [pci] [gfx0] nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] |
| 14:26.10 | anisX | yes |
| 14:26.18 | PieD | you said that yesterday |
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| 14:26.21 | PieD | you said that yesterday |
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| 14:26.38 | PieD | tiens, un français. bonjour shogouki |
| 14:26.43 | anisX | does my gfx compitable with kompmgr ? |
| 14:26.48 | PieD | anisX: yes |
| 14:26.48 | shogouki | hi / lut |
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| 14:26.58 | PieD | you should use the latest nvidia driver |
| 14:27.09 | PieD | (released a few days ago) |
| 14:27.23 | anisX | piff |
| 14:27.33 | anisX | many works to do |
| 14:27.45 | anisX | newbie need patient..yes |
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| 14:37.56 | javielin | hello |
| 14:38.10 | javielin | i'm having some issues with kde |
| 14:38.19 | anisX | hello javielin |
| 14:38.22 | javielin | it doesn't refresh what i download |
| 14:38.29 | javielin | neither external devices |
| 14:38.41 | javielin | i have to push f5 |
| 14:39.49 | javielin | think that have to be something relative with kde's cache |
| 14:40.28 | sredna | javielin: Kio_http will most likely send a if-updated-since request to the server |
| 14:41.05 | sredna | javielin: I never had such problems here, that I could not blame the remote system (for example the drupal cms fails in that respect) |
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| 14:41.24 | richmoore | javielin: check you aren't in offline browsing mode |
| 14:41.36 | javielin | offline browsing mode |
| 14:41.37 | javielin | ok |
| 14:41.43 | sredna | Ha |
| 14:41.44 | javielin | i'll check now |
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| 14:44.48 | javielin | richmore:don't remember where offline browser was |
| 14:45.06 | richmoore | HTML Settings > Cache Policy |
| 14:45.21 | richmoore | if you have the html settings addon installed it's in the Tools menu |
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| 14:49.13 | LegendLady | I have installed KDE via putty, Now how do i get it to run and establish a remote desktop link to it? if anyone can help me ?? |
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| 14:52.26 | javielin | richmore: cache is sincronized |
| 14:55.14 | javielin | where are the kde cache settings? |
| 14:55.31 | javielin | where can i modify the that kde refresh the system |
| 14:55.32 | javielin | ? |
| 14:55.38 | javielin | the way |
| 14:56.33 | LegendLady | while trying to start KDE: |
| 14:56.33 | LegendLady | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.33 | LegendLady | KDE is unable to start. |
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| 14:57.41 | anisX | annma!! |
| 14:57.44 | sredna | javielin: In the kde control center, under Internet->Web Browser->Cache |
| 14:57.45 | anisX | *hugs* |
| 14:57.54 | javielin | yep |
| 14:57.59 | javielin | i know that |
| 14:58.01 | annma | hi anisX :) |
| 14:58.02 | javielin | sredna |
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| 14:58.16 | anisX | hai khangman developer :p |
| 14:58.27 | anisX | PieD: are you busy ? |
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| 14:58.34 | javielin | sredna: but how it works? |
| 14:58.42 | PieD | anisX: a bit :/ |
| 14:58.56 | javielin | sredna: how can i make that it refresh the downloaded files? |
| 14:59.00 | anisX | PieD: can i private with you after u done with your works ? |
| 14:59.01 | Oleg_ | people, why do you use C++ instead of Python to program KDE? |
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| 14:59.10 | Oleg_ | or it doesn't matter? |
| 14:59.18 | PieD | Oleg_: speed |
| 14:59.26 | PieD | Oleg_: limits of KDE bindings for python |
| 14:59.34 | PieD | (impossible to create KIO for instance) |
| 14:59.37 | r00tsh3ll | which package contains ksnapshot? |
| 14:59.39 | Oleg_ | ok |
| 14:59.42 | PieD | anisX: what do you want ? |
| 14:59.48 | PieD | r00tsh3ll: kdegraphics |
| 14:59.55 | r00tsh3ll | thkx |
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| 15:00.01 | sredna | javielin: Select 'keep cache in sync' as your policy |
| 15:00.03 | anisX | PieD: hmm..about the transparency :/ |
| 15:00.26 | anisX | PieD: the kompmgr |
| 15:00.29 | PieD | what do you want exactly ? |
| 15:00.39 | Mogger | Hi. I've got a problem to get KDE 3.4 RC1 to Slackware 10.0, using Konstruct. |
| 15:00.51 | sredna | Oleg_: Python applications are slower to start/run than C++ ones |
| 15:00.56 | Mogger | Please take a look at this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZNLPge17.html |
| 15:01.01 | sredna | Python is a scripting language |
| 15:01.05 | anisX | PieD: 90% of my window in transparency |
| 15:01.15 | anisX | PieD: such as xmms and konquror |
| 15:01.20 | anisX | *konqueror |
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| 15:01.30 | annma | I saw a kid game in Python: was awfullt slow |
| 15:01.33 | javielin | sredna: i have cache sync selected |
| 15:01.36 | PieD | what did you do, where is the problem, ... |
| 15:01.59 | annma | Mogger: is it the first error? |
| 15:02.02 | javielin | sredna: but it doesn't work |
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| 15:02.11 | sredna | javielin: Is the problem with ALL servers, or just some? |
| 15:02.20 | Mogger | annma: Yeah |
| 15:02.23 | anisX | PieD: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=16114 <-- there is a lots of file to download and i dont know which file should i pick up |
| 15:02.49 | Mogger | (make install in meta dir) |
| 15:03.01 | annma | Mogger: make install? or make only? |
| 15:03.17 | javielin | sredna: the problem is at my laptop, i download something and i can see at the folder. I have to push f5 to refresh it. Same problem with external usb devices. |
| 15:03.17 | PieD | anisX: sorry, too long to explain |
| 15:03.17 | Mogger | annma: tried both. Gives same error. |
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| 15:03.29 | annma | what module? |
| 15:03.30 | PieD | please wait :/ |
| 15:03.33 | Oleg_ | ok |
| 15:03.35 | Oleg_ | I see |
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| 15:03.41 | anisX | PieD: hmm..that is okey pied..do your work first..i`ll wait here |
| 15:03.44 | annma | Mogger: what module? |
| 15:03.55 | Mogger | err... |
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| 15:05.11 | Mogger | annma: Sorry, I'm n00b... module? |
| 15:05.27 | sredna | javielin: Well, I never had that problem, or recently heard about something like that, so it's a problem on your system |
| 15:05.32 | annma | hm, aren't there any 3.4RC1 packages for slackware? |
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| 15:06.00 | javielin | mmmmmmmmm |
| 15:06.00 | annma | Mogger: konstruct is not for newbies |
| 15:06.03 | javielin | sredna: everythin worked fine a few weeks ago |
| 15:06.19 | sredna | javielin: What did you change in the meantime? |
| 15:06.23 | Mogger | It sounded quite easy, so I just tried it out... |
| 15:06.31 | javielin | sredna: maybe ndiswrapper |
| 15:06.37 | javielin | sredna: maybe kaffeine |
| 15:06.58 | annma | Mogger: well you need all the devel packages installed for most libs |
| 15:07.00 | javielin | sredna: too much things |
| 15:07.09 | sredna | javielin: Kaffeine is unlikely to affect that, I have no idea what ndiswrapper is |
| 15:07.10 | annma | Mogger: you probably lack one |
| 15:07.27 | Mogger | annma: oh ok, I'll check it. Thanks! |
| 15:07.32 | javielin | sredna: ndiswrapper uses windows drivers for wifi management |
| 15:07.41 | annma | Mogger: next time post all output |
| 15:07.54 | annma | from the last line that cmpiles to the exit |
| 15:08.02 | javielin | sredna: i'm always trying things as i'm learning how to use this wonderfull OS |
| 15:08.02 | annma | so we cam really see what's on |
| 15:08.04 | sredna | javielin: Sounds like you have a candidate |
| 15:08.07 | ozmis | could anyone plz help me installing kde 3.3.2 on debian 3.0.. i am havin a problem while i am configuring an arts* package (error: can't find X includes).. Does anyone know how to solve it ??? |
| 15:08.18 | annma | Mogger: your paste is not informative enough |
| 15:08.27 | Mogger | annma: http://rafb.net/paste/results/fvt3i313.html |
| 15:08.36 | annma | ozmis: install all the devel packages |
| 15:08.45 | annma | ozmis: ask in #debian-kde fro specifics |
| 15:08.52 | ozmis | thx.. |
| 15:08.53 | javielin | sredna: im upgrading KDE3 right now. I'll try that. And if the problem continues, i'll check ndiswrapper |
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| 15:09.38 | javielin | i'm trying to upgrade kde3 |
| 15:09.49 | javielin | but i always get an error from apt-get |
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| 15:12.13 | annma | javielin: see #debian-kde fro debian problems and please read the FAQ |
| 15:12.24 | javielin | annma: ok |
| 15:12.58 | javielin | can anybody tell me where i can get last estable version of kde as a SUSE .rpm? |
| 15:14.06 | annma | look at suse website |
| 15:14.13 | r00tsh3ll | kde.org ftp has this packages |
| 15:14.15 | annma | it might depends of suse version |
| 15:14.57 | javielin | 9.2 |
| 15:15.30 | annma | look at ftp.kde.org |
| 15:15.58 | javielin | annma: thanks |
| 15:16.24 | r00tsh3ll | javielin, ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.3.2/ |
| 15:16.43 | r00tsh3ll | ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.3.2/SuSE/ |
| 15:20.56 | annma | Mogger: it looks like a problem with your installation |
| 15:21.06 | annma | what gcc version? |
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| 15:24.09 | quiet | someone help me remember how i set panel icon zooming for rollover?? |
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| 15:24.46 | Mogger | annma: oh sorry, I was a little bit afk... |
| 15:25.09 | Mogger | 3.3.4 |
| 15:26.37 | annma | Mogger: ask in #skackware maybe |
| 15:26.56 | quiet | mogger, what's your Q? |
| 15:27.13 | annma | a compile error on kdebase |
| 15:27.29 | annma | quiet: http://rafb.net/paste/results/fvt3i313.html |
| 15:27.38 | annma | that's his question |
| 15:27.47 | Mogger | I'm trying those packages now: http://ktown.kde.org/~binner/klax/10.1/ |
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| 15:28.32 | quiet | you're trying to compile 3.4? |
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| 15:29.18 | Mogger | quiet: yeah |
| 15:29.50 | r00tsh3ll | Mogger, that packs work well for slack current and 10.1 :) i'm using them now. |
| 15:29.59 | quiet | i dunno.. I'm on Arch.. so i got 3.4 binaries.. |
| 15:30.13 | Mogger | r00tsh3ll: but I'm using Slackware 10.0 :P |
| 15:30.26 | quiet | Mogger, upgrade |
| 15:30.47 | Mogger | quiet: Yeah I will, just a little bit too lazy now... |
| 15:30.50 | r00tsh3ll | or compile from source.. |
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| 15:31.16 | quiet | r00tsh3ll, he was trying to compile |
| 15:31.58 | quiet | If you've never used arch... I HIGHLY recommend it.. it's like the perfect blend between Slackware and Gentoo |
| 15:32.01 | Mogger | restart X - brb |
| 15:33.47 | quiet | how do i enable the icon zooming for the taskbar? |
| 15:33.58 | annma | you mean for kicker? |
| 15:34.01 | quiet | yes |
| 15:34.09 | annma | right ckicl on panel -> Configure panel |
| 15:34.15 | annma | you'll find it there |
| 15:34.26 | quiet | i thought so.. but i dont' see it |
| 15:34.34 | annma | Appearance tab |
| 15:34.35 | apokryphos | Appearance |
| 15:34.43 | quiet | ? |
| 15:34.57 | annma | Enable icon mouseover effects |
| 15:35.02 | apokryphos | Configure Panel > Layout > Appearance > Enable icon.. |
| 15:35.07 | annma | do you see the Appearance tab??? |
| 15:35.08 | quiet | yeah I have that... and it does the highlighting |
| 15:35.12 | quiet | but not the zooming |
| 15:35.16 | annma | highlighting? |
| 15:35.20 | apokryphos | quiet: oh, are you using 3.4? |
| 15:35.26 | quiet | yes |
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| 15:35.31 | apokryphos | quiet: the icon-zooming has changed |
| 15:35.37 | quiet | k? |
| 15:35.52 | annma | you get a big tooltip |
| 15:35.55 | apokryphos | The icons don't increase in size; you get that tooltip |
| 15:35.57 | annma | do you have it? |
| 15:36.02 | quiet | aww.. yes |
| 15:36.05 | quiet | that sucks |
| 15:36.08 | annma | no |
| 15:36.11 | annma | that rules |
| 15:36.19 | quiet | yeah i like it.. but i still want the zooming |
| 15:36.31 | quiet | gives it more of the OSX dock feel |
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| 15:36.42 | aesiamun | morning. |
| 15:37.10 | annma | gotta go, bye! |
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| 15:37.14 | apokryphos | quiet: can't please them all ;-) |
| 15:37.27 | aesiamun | is anyone else having problems with Kopete not being able to receive aim messages? |
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| 15:38.38 | quiet | *puke* |
| 15:38.51 | apokryphos | :P |
| 15:39.05 | apokryphos | quiet: if you really want the dock feel you should go for a dock. Several out there to choose from. |
| 15:39.17 | quiet | yeah I know |
| 15:39.21 | quiet | i really like kicker though |
| 15:39.36 | apokryphos | and yet it makes you puke :P |
| 15:39.48 | quiet | no.. kopete make me puke ;) |
| 15:39.53 | aesiamun | heh. |
| 15:39.57 | apokryphos | oh oh |
| 15:41.04 | aesiamun | it's weird, it says I'm connected, people can see me on network, but AOL IM messages are not delivered to me... |
| 15:41.13 | aesiamun | i can send fine, but reception doesn't happen. |
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| 15:41.31 | quiet | hold on lemme try |
| 15:41.31 | hans | ops xD |
| 15:42.02 | aesiamun | this is 3.4 rc1 btw. |
| 15:42.32 | quiet | i'm on 3.4 with kopete .10 |
| 15:42.40 | hans | I think sometinhg went wrong... XD |
| 15:42.42 | aesiamun | yeah same here. |
| 15:42.52 | aesiamun | also, when I log in. |
| 15:43.01 | quiet | mine seems to be working fine |
| 15:43.09 | aesiamun | if I log in to the same account with GAIM and Kopete and send myself a message, kopete blows up |
| 15:43.17 | aesiamun | interesting. |
| 15:43.18 | quiet | heh.. |
| 15:43.23 | aesiamun | this is competley reproducable for me. |
| 15:43.35 | aesiamun | completely. |
| 15:44.03 | quiet | strange... I dunno.. |
| 15:44.11 | quiet | I gotta take off.. (file a bug report) |
| 15:44.29 | aesiamun | i can't tell if it's a bug or a product of gentoo. |
| 15:44.35 | aesiamun | :) |
| 15:44.40 | quiet | gah... it's gentoo |
| 15:44.41 | quiet | :x |
| 15:44.42 | aesiamun | ok. thanks. |
| 15:44.47 | quiet | lol |
| 15:45.00 | quiet | i'm being sarcastic... i don't know that for sure |
| 15:45.05 | aesiamun | i realize that. |
| 15:45.08 | quiet | ok |
| 15:45.11 | quiet | good luck |
| 15:45.12 | quiet | later |
| 15:45.18 | aesiamun | that's why i'm here...needed to track down what it was before i file a bug report. |
| 15:45.20 | aesiamun | thanks. |
| 15:45.21 | aesiamun | later. |
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| 15:46.28 | aOispe | hi all, where do i configure to add a certain icon to a filetype? |
| 15:46.48 | aOispe | to an extension for instance a .chm file |
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| 15:51.03 | aesiamun | http://rafb.net/paste/results/4oLssw73.html |
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| 16:02.54 | frerich | hi |
| 16:03.41 | ozmis | is kde 3.3.2 compatible with xfree86 4.1 at all ?? |
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| 16:54.50 | scorp_ | anyone alive and can help me ;]] ? |
| 16:55.18 | tbird | maby |
| 16:55.35 | scorp_ | well my KDE kinda doesn't have a sound system |
| 16:55.37 | scorp_ | ^^ |
| 16:55.46 | scorp_ | I mean no arts anda alsa support no nothing |
| 16:55.55 | tbird | what distro ? |
| 16:55.57 | scorp_ | gentoo |
| 16:56.04 | scorp_ | tbird: everything works in framebuffer |
| 16:56.07 | scorp_ | I mean the snd |
| 16:56.08 | tbird | new kernel or anything ? |
| 16:56.14 | scorp_ | tbird: shitty merge ;] |
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| 16:56.21 | tbird | oic |
| 16:56.34 | tbird | do you have alsa installed |
| 16:56.44 | scorp_ | tbird: mpg123 plays everything |
| 16:56.45 | Vandroy | are you in the audio group? |
| 16:56.47 | scorp_ | ant kplayer so |
| 16:56.58 | scorp_ | but xmms doesn't :F |
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| 16:57.13 | r00tsh3ll | is there a way to use kdict do translate english words to my native language? |
| 16:57.27 | scorp_ | and I get this I/O error or something while entering the Sound System stuff in the Control Panel or what's it called ;] |
| 16:57.28 | spatialguru | hi all. Can I use Konqueror to do scp-like file transfer with another ssh host? |
| 16:57.37 | SteamedPenguin | spatialguru: yes |
| 16:57.41 | spatialguru | cool! |
| 16:58.01 | spatialguru | how? |
| 16:58.04 | scorp_ | Vandroy: it doesn't work with root eyther ;P |
| 16:58.49 | SteamedPenguin | spatialguru: does the other host have sftp enabled? |
| 16:58.52 | r00tsh3ll | or is there an app for kde like 'babytrans'?! |
| 16:58.53 | Vandroy | have you compiled kde with arts support? |
| 16:59.30 | spatialguru | SteamedPenguin: probably not sftp, but definitely ssh/scp - I've done those from command line. |
| 16:59.40 | spatialguru | I'm not familiar with sftp |
| 16:59.50 | Vandroy | you can type in a shell alsaconf |
| 16:59.50 | spatialguru | just might have |
| 17:00.03 | dwango | scorp_, cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 17:00.09 | SteamedPenguin | spatialguru: in that case try fish://username@machine |
| 17:00.27 | scorp_ | dwango: THE SOUND WORKS |
| 17:00.31 | alexissoft | sftp:// rox |
| 17:00.41 | scorp_ | just that there's kinda no sound system in my kde o_O |
| 17:00.46 | SteamedPenguin | alexissoft: only if sftp is available |
| 17:01.09 | dwango | I thought you said alsa didn't work. |
| 17:01.12 | spatialguru | SteamedPenguin: Both work!! Right on. |
| 17:01.25 | scorp_ | sound system is kinda dead in my kde :F |
| 17:01.31 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: we know |
| 17:01.38 | spatialguru | SteamedPenguin: thanks for that. "fish"? what the heck?? |
| 17:01.38 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: how about you start from basics |
| 17:01.39 | scorp_ | ;]]] |
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| 17:01.48 | scorp_ | SteamedPenguin: u mean .. |
| 17:01.54 | Vandroy | scorp_, in kde contro center |
| 17:02.10 | Vandroy | undersound and multimedia |
| 17:02.10 | spatialguru | W00st0ck: good day eh. |
| 17:02.31 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: I mean instead of repeating my KDE has no sound system over and over and over, let's try diagnose the problem, and see if we can come up with a cure |
| 17:02.33 | Vandroy | in the hardware tab |
| 17:02.38 | scorp_ | Vandroy: wait a sec, I'll open up kde and tell u the exact problem |
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| 17:03.35 | SteamedPenguin | spatialguru: fish is a protocol giving you secure file transfers even if sftp is not available. |
| 17:04.00 | thiago | on the other hand, fish requires shell access, while sftp doesn't need that |
| 17:04.27 | spatialguru | it's groovy even if it does have a non-intuitive name :) |
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| 17:04.56 | scorp_ | unable to start sound server to retrieve possible I/O methods and the other line goess Only automatic detection will be availible |
| 17:05.06 | spatialguru | any of you had X/KDE crash when a java web app starts? |
| 17:05.11 | scorp_ | this is the error... |
| 17:05.20 | javielin | can make kde refresh files |
| 17:05.43 | javielin | if i download, extract, mount, ... i cant see it till a push f5 |
| 17:06.14 | scorp_ | Vandroy, SteamedPenguin any thoughts :/ ? |
| 17:06.25 | spatialguru | later folks, thanks for the support |
| 17:06.45 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: maybe it is a permission problem? |
| 17:06.49 | Vandroy | in control centers sound system in the hardware tab can you set something? |
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| 17:06.59 | scorp_ | Vandroy: autodetect only ;] |
| 17:07.20 | Vandroy | i have autodetect and it works :/ |
| 17:07.36 | scorp_ | Vandroy: but I can't set anything else |
| 17:07.43 | thiago | scorp_: what sound system are you using? OSS or ALSA? |
| 17:07.48 | scorp_ | ALSA |
| 17:07.52 | scorp_ | and OSS is emulated ;] |
| 17:08.13 | thiago | ok, if you set aRts to ALSA, what happens? |
| 17:08.13 | scorp_ | but kplayer, mpg123 can play sound |
| 17:08.17 | scorp_ | thiago: |
| 17:08.20 | scorp_ | got it! |
| 17:08.20 | scorp_ | :} |
| 17:08.27 | scorp_ | I don't have aRts installed ;))))))))) |
| 17:08.42 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: how the hell don't you have arts installed? |
| 17:08.42 | scorp_ | I got this when I tried to compile a window decoration |
| 17:08.47 | Vandroy | scorp_, i told you! |
| 17:09.04 | scorp_ | anyway, how do u merge/install arts o_O |
| 17:09.17 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: emerge arts maybe? |
| 17:09.23 | thiago | scorp_: that explains why you don't have "kde sound system" |
| 17:09.27 | scorp_ | :) |
| 17:09.39 | scorp_ | wee |
| 17:09.43 | scorp_ | merging it ^^ |
| 17:09.52 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: do you not have arts in your use flags? |
| 17:10.21 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: make sure that arts is in your make.conf USE entry too |
| 17:10.22 | scorp_ | I don't ;/ |
| 17:10.36 | scorp_ | -arts -aRts or arts ? |
| 17:10.40 | scorp_ | witch one to add? |
| 17:10.46 | SteamedPenguin | just arts |
| 17:11.19 | Vandroy | isn't arts set by default in the kde eubild? |
| 17:11.38 | scorp_ | well |
| 17:11.40 | scorp_ | dunno :/// |
| 17:11.43 | scorp_ | strange though.. |
| 17:11.52 | scorp_ | and theres another strange thing |
| 17:12.19 | Vandroy | scorp_, what? |
| 17:12.25 | scorp_ | kde-base/kde-3.3.2 is 0kB o_O |
| 17:12.27 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: unless you are interested in getting your hands dirty and having things break /always/ make sure you have /all/ KDE dependencies right |
| 17:12.52 | scorp_ | ;] |
| 17:12.54 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: that means it is already downloaded. |
| 17:13.18 | scorp_ | SteamedPenguin: the other thing is that it didn't compile |
| 17:13.36 | scorp_ | the last and main package o_O |
| 17:13.41 | Vandroy | scorp_, arts? |
| 17:13.43 | SteamedPenguin | it didn't compile because you didn;t have it in the useflags |
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| 17:13.58 | scorp_ | I got -kde |
| 17:14.00 | scorp_ | and kde |
| 17:14.03 | scorp_ | in the use flags |
| 17:14.03 | scorp_ | ;] |
| 17:14.06 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: jesus |
| 17:14.30 | scorp_ | christ |
| 17:14.43 | scorp_ | and what so lame did I do :)))) ? |
| 17:14.45 | r00tsh3ll | can someone suggest me a tool like 'babytrans' for kde? |
| 17:14.54 | javielin | SeamedPenguin: how can i check kde dependencies? |
| 17:15.15 | Vandroy | javielin, emerge --pretend kde |
| 17:15.28 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: you have -kde and kde in your use flags? |
| 17:15.29 | javielin | Vandroy : thanks |
| 17:15.34 | scorp_ | SteamedPenguin: am yep |
| 17:15.50 | scorp_ | this causing all the dirty stuff |
| 17:15.51 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: there is your answer |
| 17:15.51 | scorp_ | ? |
| 17:15.59 | scorp_ | so wich one to delete ;] |
| 17:16.06 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: think about it |
| 17:16.06 | Vandroy | -kde |
| 17:16.11 | Vandroy | ;) |
| 17:16.28 | scorp_ | so I gotta reinstall my whole system |
| 17:16.31 | scorp_ | now ^^? |
| 17:16.33 | javielin | Vandroy: on a shell? |
| 17:16.35 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: which one do you think would give you a KDE system? |
| 17:16.35 | scorp_ | or it can recover... ? |
| 17:16.43 | Vandroy | javielin, yes |
| 17:16.58 | scorp_ | SteamedPenguin: I left kde without the "-" |
| 17:17.00 | scorp_ | :/ |
| 17:17.06 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: there ya go |
| 17:17.11 | javielin | Vandroy: emerge, command not found |
| 17:17.27 | Vandroy | javielin, do you use gentoo? |
| 17:17.29 | SteamedPenguin | javielin: did you emerge as root? |
| 17:17.35 | javielin | yes |
| 17:17.38 | javielin | suse |
| 17:17.48 | SteamedPenguin | lol |
| 17:17.51 | SteamedPenguin | oh my head |
| 17:17.55 | Vandroy | suse doesn't have emerge |
| 17:18.16 | Vandroy | i don't know how to check it on suse |
| 17:18.16 | javielin | can i install it with apt-get? |
| 17:18.22 | Vandroy | try with yast |
| 17:18.24 | scorp_ | SteamedPenguin: so I'm like f*ckd up now? Or I can safely recover o_O ? |
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| 17:18.39 | Vandroy | suse has apt-get?!? |
| 17:18.47 | k4ever | hi all |
| 17:18.51 | scorp_ | suse has something else ;/ |
| 17:18.57 | scorp_ | but it has a packet manager |
| 17:18.58 | alexissoft | suse has yast |
| 17:18.58 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: it should be fine, you might have to re-emerge the kde modules |
| 17:19.02 | thiago | SuSE has "you" |
| 17:19.10 | alexissoft | :) |
| 17:19.10 | javielin | yast and apt |
| 17:19.15 | alexissoft | but you can put apt4rpm |
| 17:19.15 | Vandroy | thiago, lol |
| 17:19.16 | thiago | but you can use APT on it |
| 17:19.26 | javielin | im using apt |
| 17:19.28 | thiago | Vandroy: YaST Online Update -- "YOU" |
| 17:19.34 | scorp_ | SteamedPenguin: how do u re-emerge ;) ? |
| 17:19.39 | k4ever | how do i use arts for both users when using the "switch user" function in kde? the artsd won't connect to /dev/dsp for the new user |
| 17:19.56 | thiago | k4ever: make both users have a very low timeout, like 1 or 2 seconds |
| 17:20.01 | scorp_ | SteamedPenguin: btw it still doesn't compile, just kinda installs |
| 17:20.16 | javielin | look, i can see syncronice files in konkeror |
| 17:20.21 | javielin | i have to use f5 |
| 17:20.24 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: well hell, are you set up for the binaries? |
| 17:20.34 | scorp_ | am no |
| 17:20.43 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: ok, then let's try this |
| 17:20.50 | SteamedPenguin | first emerge -vp kdebase |
| 17:20.53 | scorp_ | I do emerge --unmerge kde |
| 17:20.56 | scorp_ | then emerge kde again ;] |
| 17:21.01 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: no need! |
| 17:21.17 | scorp_ | SteamedPenguin: |
| 17:21.23 | scorp_ | guess what output I got ;] |
| 17:21.28 | scorp_ | 1st one is arts |
| 17:21.29 | javielin | apt-get check |
| 17:21.42 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: I don't want to guess. you can tell me or keep it a secret |
| 17:21.47 | javielin | that check broken dependencies in suse |
| 17:21.50 | scorp_ | and the second one is kdebase with a yellow R |
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| 17:21.59 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: perfect |
| 17:22.07 | scorp_ | so now just emerge kdebase |
| 17:22.08 | scorp_ | ^^? |
| 17:22.18 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: do a emerge -vp arts kdelibs kdebase |
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| 17:22.48 | scorp_ | SteamedPenguin: all 3 got yellow R |
| 17:23.10 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: now without the -vp |
| 17:23.21 | javielin | does anyone know how kde manages the sync of files? |
| 17:23.35 | k4ever | thiago: both are set to 1 second. i get an error that /dev/dsp can't be opened (Permission Denied).. |
| 17:23.36 | scorp_ | SteamedPenguin: I'm gonna remove arts, coz It merged like 1minute ago : |
| 17:23.37 | javielin | is there any sysconfig option? |
| 17:23.42 | scorp_ | SteamedPenguin: or should I leave it.. ? |
| 17:23.57 | thiago | k4ever: fix the permissions then |
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| 17:24.13 | thiago | it has nothing to do with the fact that you're opening 2 sessions -- at least, it doesn't look like it |
| 17:24.32 | k4ever | thiago: what should the permissions be set to? |
| 17:25.03 | thiago | k4ever: something that both users can access |
| 17:25.27 | thiago | my advice is using an "audio" group, placing both users in that group, and setting the permissions to root.audio 0660 |
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| 17:25.56 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: ok |
| 17:26.10 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: explain to me what the reasoning is behind removing arts? |
| 17:26.44 | k4ever | thiago: right now it is set to 0660 |
| 17:27.43 | thiago | k4ever: what owner and what group? |
| 17:27.47 | scorp_ | SteamedPenguin: well, coz it's fresh ;] |
| 17:27.59 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: jesus |
| 17:28.07 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: ok, stay with me here |
| 17:28.10 | scorp_ | ;]]]] |
| 17:28.14 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: you /want/ arts |
| 17:28.21 | scorp_ | yaaa |
| 17:28.27 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: ok |
| 17:28.31 | thiago | sorry, I have to go |
| 17:28.39 | k4ever | thiago: root.audio |
| 17:28.43 | SteamedPenguin | just run emerge arts kdelibs kdebase |
| 17:28.49 | scorp_ | heh :) |
| 17:28.50 | scorp_ | okay ;] |
| 17:29.08 | scorp_ | SteamedPenguin: 1hour would be enough ? |
| 17:29.15 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: hah hah |
| 17:29.19 | scorp_ | ;D |
| 17:29.23 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: what kind of processor? |
| 17:29.30 | scorp_ | AMD64 3000+ |
| 17:29.45 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: dunno. maybe. |
| 17:29.51 | k4ever | thiago: thats what is in console.perms file. right now device is reporting user1.audio |
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| 17:30.07 | scorp_ | hope it works ;) |
| 17:30.17 | scorp_ | oki cu after 1-2hours :)))) |
| 17:30.31 | SteamedPenguin | scorp_: try playing with the emerge -vp --newuse world when that is done |
| 17:30.48 | scorp_ | okay |
| 17:30.58 | scorp_ | heh |
| 17:31.13 | scorp_ | I can finaly enjoy all of my speakers working ;] |
| 17:31.39 | scorp_ | in windoze, u could hear only 2, others were like muted :// |
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| 17:31.48 | scorp_ | no settings to play with provided too o_O |
| 17:32.55 | imachine | yk |
| 17:32.56 | imachine | tak |
| 17:32.58 | imachine | yk |
| 17:32.59 | imachine | tak |
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| 17:33.10 | imachine | oh. |
| 17:33.11 | k4ever | thiago: any thoughts? |
| 17:33.13 | imachine | wrong window |
| 17:33.13 | imachine | ;) |
| 17:33.18 | imachine | sorry about that. |
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| 17:48.35 | ScytheBlade1 | what's the dcop call to open the kde start menu? |
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| 17:48.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I can't find it anywhere.. |
| 17:49.45 | frerich | Is there one? :) |
| 17:49.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't know, hence why I'm asking ;) |
| 17:50.17 | frerich | ScytheBlade1: I can't see any - try running 'kdcop' and then browse all the stuff 'kicker' provides. |
| 17:50.33 | frerich | I suspect if there is one, it's somehow provided by kicker |
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| 17:51.40 | ScytheBlade1 | kicker, k, that's what I was looking for |
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| 17:53.38 | ScytheBlade1 | there's some of them to pop up the app menu anywhere you want |
| 17:53.45 | ScytheBlade1 | but not to emulate clicking on the button itself |
| 17:53.46 | Ashdurbat | My Run Command keeps breaking |
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| 17:56.33 | Ashdurbat | I try to run a command |
| 17:56.41 | Ashdurbat | And the command goes, but the run command box freezes |
| 17:56.50 | Ashdurbat | I can't get it back |
| 17:57.01 | Ashdurbat | This happened last X session |
| 17:57.21 | Ashdurbat | Which ended because I had to logout and hard reboot since my keyboard stopped responding |
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| 18:00.39 | Dachaz | is there some tool to check if gamepad vibration works? (I did enable it in kernel, but am not sure if it works) |
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| 18:02.06 | Noldo | Dachaz: cat - > right device? |
| 18:02.26 | Dachaz | huh? |
| 18:02.50 | Noldo | Dachaz: sending data from stdin to the gamepad |
| 18:03.17 | Dachaz | well, I have no idea which data should be sent |
| 18:03.38 | Noldo | Dachaz: I'd try random stuff |
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| 18:04.35 | Noldo | Dachaz: it propably doesn't enough intelligence to discard invalid data anyway |
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| 18:04.51 | Ashdurbat | What controlls the Run Command dialog? |
| 18:05.12 | aseigo | kdesktop |
| 18:06.10 | Ashdurbat | How is it possible that the run command thing doesn't work, but the rest of KDE does? |
| 18:06.30 | Noldo | Ashdurbat: doesn't work how? |
| 18:06.36 | Bille | Ashdurbat: do ps -ef | grep kdesktop |
| 18:06.55 | Dachaz | btw, as from yesterday, default font size (seemingly) became decreased by 2 or 4 pt. That made everything quite tiny. I did try to change every fontsize in Control Center, but still in Firefox, Thunderbird (and many others which don't have intern font-size regulation) everything's tiny |
| 18:07.05 | Bille | and, tell us if you can't see any icons |
| 18:07.19 | Ashdurbat | No, it isn't running\ |
| 18:07.39 | Ashdurbat | Noldo, I try to hit Alt-F2 or Start->Run command |
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| 18:08.02 | Ashdurbat | Ok, it works now. |
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| 18:08.07 | Ashdurbat | I did $ kdesktop |
| 18:08.07 | Bille | Ashdurbat: is it not running after you log into kde? |
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| 18:08.37 | Ashdurbat | I tried doing another Run Command |
| 18:08.50 | Ashdurbat | The command was spawned, but kdesktop crashed |
| 18:09.01 | Ashdurbat | Bille, It is running after I log in |
| 18:09.11 | Ashdurbat | It just crashes when I try to do run command |
| 18:09.12 | ScytheBlade1 | by chance was your command "killall kdesktop"? ;) |
| 18:09.33 | Bille | heh |
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| 18:09.59 | Ashdurbat | It didn't close, it stayed open |
| 18:10.02 | Bille | Ashdurbat: was there any debug output in the console where you started it from, after it crashed? |
| 18:10.07 | Ashdurbat | And I tried to click the X in the corner |
| 18:10.12 | Ashdurbat | No |
| 18:10.14 | Ashdurbat | Bille, N |
| 18:10.25 | Ashdurbat | *No |
| 18:11.07 | Ashdurbat | It's run as a daemon, right? |
| 18:11.15 | Bille | anything helpful in the crash dialog? |
| 18:11.29 | Bille | i _think_ it's run by startkde |
| 18:11.48 | Ashdurbat | Bille, No |
| 18:11.53 | Ashdurbat | Nothing helpful |
| 18:12.18 | Bille | Ashdurbat: look in .xsession-errors? |
| 18:13.21 | Ashdurbat | Bille, Nothing |
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| 18:14.23 | judith | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.49 | ScytheBlade1 | if you want to see what is spawned by what, just open up the process viewer or `ps -AH` |
| 18:14.49 | Bille | judith: if you right click on the file, what is in Preview In? |
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| 18:15.24 | judith | Bille: the file is not on disk, it is from the web. |
| 18:15.51 | Bille | judith: ok, select settings->configure Konqueror->file associations |
| 18:15.54 | judith | Bille: so I was simply selecting "view in new tab" |
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| 18:16.28 | Bille | judith: ok. we need to check that kpdf is set as the main embedded pdf viewer |
| 18:16.40 | judith | ok...how? |
| 18:16.53 | Bille | have you got File Associations open, as described above? |
| 18:17.42 | judith | Bille: looking for entry PDF...there are too many! |
| 18:18.03 | Bille | judith: just type 'pdf' in the File Filename pattern box |
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| 18:19.03 | judith | just done that...I did not know it was there. But I already have kpdf listed on top. |
| 18:19.33 | Bille | judith: look at the top of the window - there should be 2 tabs, General and Embedded - ok? |
| 18:19.40 | judith | ok |
| 18:19.51 | Bille | what about on the Embedded tab? |
| 18:19.56 | Bille | sorry, Embedding |
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| 18:20.22 | Bille | that controls how files are viewed 'in Konqueror' |
| 18:20.26 | judith | I have in this order from top: Netscape, KPDF, kghostview |
| 18:20.40 | Bille | ok,that's the problem - click Move Up until KPDF is on top |
| 18:20.55 | Bille | that's a kind of priority list |
| 18:21.00 | judith | ok |
| 18:21.13 | Ashdurbat | Do you think I should submit a bug? |
| 18:21.13 | judith | I guess I'll need to restart konqui |
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| 18:21.43 | Bille | judith: you shouldn't need to, just Ok it |
| 18:21.45 | Dachaz | Bille: any clue on what might had happened so that my fonts got screwed up? |
| 18:22.06 | Bille | Dachaz: what did you change yesterday? |
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| 18:22.30 | Dachaz | Nothing regarding that. The only thing that might had affected it that I had to turn off power without shutting propperly |
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| 18:22.44 | Bille | Ashdurbat: i don't suppose you build kde from source and could turn on debuggin? |
| 18:22.45 | Bille | +g |
| 18:22.55 | Bille | judith: is it working now? |
| 18:23.02 | judith | Bille: Got it...thanx. But why did Konqueror not try the second option? Should I file a bug? |
| 18:23.49 | Bille | judith: probably your distribution chose acrobat reader as the default option - that's what 'netscape' means, since acrobat reader installs a _netscape_ plugin |
| 18:23.56 | Bille | (that konqueror is able to use) |
| 18:24.18 | Bille | judith: so it didn't load in acrobat reader, before? |
| 18:24.31 | Ashdurbat | Bille, How do I turn on debugging? |
| 18:24.50 | Bille | Ashdurbat: you build from source, yeah? |
| 18:24.55 | judith | nope...anyway I have acrobat 7 beta. |
| 18:25.24 | Ashdurbat | Bille, No, not me. Someone sent me packages they had made. |
| 18:25.33 | Bille | Dachaz: i doubt a poweroff would break anything that subtly |
| 18:25.59 | Dachaz | Bille: so do I, but when I rebooted I saw things that way. |
| 18:26.21 | Dachaz | Bille: I restarted the system thinking it was a bug of some sort, but it didn't help much |
| 18:26.34 | Bille | Dachaz: i suspect your X server config is broken |
| 18:26.49 | Bille | it's definitely not a kde issue because it affects firefox as well |
| 18:27.10 | Bille | Dachaz: try reconfiguring your screen + monitor settings for your distro. |
| 18:27.33 | Bille | Ashdurbat: tell your contact to build with debugging enabled |
| 18:27.34 | tbird | can i change the 24hr time format to 12 hr time format in 3.3 |
| 18:27.41 | tbird | ive looked everywhere |
| 18:27.43 | Dachaz | I'll check the X config... since I did try changing monitor resolution |
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| 18:27.49 | Bille | judith: ah well, betas can burn your fingers ;) |
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| 18:29.14 | Bille | judith: the priority list of different viewers is there for the file manager - so Preview With will show that entire list. but when you click a link on the web, konqi just takes the first thing in the list, or it would get confusing |
| 18:30.10 | Bille | tbird: KControl->Regional & Accessibility->Country Region & Language->Time & Dates |
| 18:30.13 | Bille | (phew) |
| 18:31.38 | Bille | Dachaz: ah, you _did_ change something else yesterday then ;) |
| 18:31.42 | Oleg_ | we can create games like Quake using QT? |
| 18:31.57 | tbird | Bille: yeah ive looked there do i just choose the other option under Time Format ? |
| 18:32.01 | Dachaz | Bille: no, I tried that afterwards |
| 18:32.28 | Dachaz | The odd thing is that after I changed font sizes in Control Center, thunderbird, firefox, azureus, nicotine, ... didn't accept those changes |
| 18:33.16 | Bille | tbird: click the help tab then the help link at the bottom of the section - the manual explains it properly |
| 18:33.28 | tbird | ok thnx Bille |
| 18:33.30 | Bille | but eg HH:MM is 24hr |
| 18:33.36 | Bille | and hh:MM is 12hr |
| 18:33.38 | Bille | i think |
| 18:34.28 | Bille | nope, pH::MM or PH::MM is 12hr |
| 18:34.31 | tbird | ok PH |
| 18:34.34 | tbird | pH |
| 18:34.36 | tbird | yeah |
| 18:34.41 | Bille | sorted? |
| 18:34.41 | tbird | its the other option |
| 18:34.48 | tbird | pH:MM:SS AMPM |
| 18:35.01 | Bille | cool. |
| 18:35.06 | tbird | thnx |
| 18:35.12 | Bille | pleasure :) |
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| 18:42.26 | Dachaz | Bille: for some reason, some non-kde applications start with different colour scheme, even though I checked differently in Control Center. When I uncheck and check again, and restart applications it's ok |
| 18:42.51 | Bille | Dachaz: i'm not sure about that, sorry |
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| 18:54.06 | Dachaz | Bille: I made fresh new xorg.conf, and it's still the same |
| 18:54.15 | Dachaz | Bille: I guess those are GTK apps that are messy? |
| 18:54.44 | Bille | Dachaz: i would check with your distro or their support channel about the font size. |
| 18:55.07 | Bille | i really don't know how the non-kde theming works - it's a black box to me |
| 18:55.17 | Dachaz | ok :S |
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| 18:57.10 | grrrrr | how do i unmap ctrl-alt V |
| 18:57.34 | Bille | grrrrr: does it popup Klipper? |
| 18:57.59 | grrrrr | when i go to the theme keymanager it says Set<LocationCoordinate> |
| 18:58.04 | grrrrr | but no listing maps it |
| 18:58.52 | grrrrr | nothing pops up, unfrotunately its square in the middle of intellij keys which are more important than random wm of the day |
| 18:59.21 | Bille | grahl04: what happens when you press it? |
| 19:00.08 | Bille | that was to grrrrr. grr. |
| 19:00.44 | grrrrr | where can i find the xyz.config file for keymaps so i can flatten them all? |
| 19:03.43 | Bille | grrrrr: it will currently be using the hardcoded default in the app that is using it |
| 19:03.55 | Bille | grrrrr: there won't be a config file for it until you change it |
| 19:04.11 | Bille | grrrrr: what did you mean by "theme keymanager"? |
| 19:05.13 | grrrrr | "Regional and Accessability" tab in control center offers keyboard stuff, nowhere else in KDE control panel seems to. i just disabled KHotkeys but.. i wasnt in one of it's apps |
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| 19:06.46 | Bille | grrrrr: you need to find which app is using that shortcut and change it there |
| 19:07.26 | Bille | grrrrr: so nothing happens when you do press ctrl-alt-V, but you think KDE is swallowing it and not passing it on to intellij? |
| 19:09.06 | grrrrr | Bille: yeah, it seems the keymap altering control panels can illustrate the mapped meta-symbols when i press them inside a capture prompt |
| 19:09.18 | grrrrr | but the ctrl-alt-V aint remappable in it |
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| 19:10.32 | Bille | grrrrr: here, klipper (clipboard utility) is using that shortcut |
| 19:11.15 | Bille | grrrrr: right click the clipboard icon in the system tray, configure klipper, shortcuts - see if that has Alt-Ctrl-V for 'Show Klipper Popup Menu' |
| 19:12.18 | grrrrr | bingo |
| 19:12.23 | grrrrr | didnt even know it was there |
| 19:12.24 | StevenR | is there a way to wordcount a dvi document without having to strip the LaTeX source? |
| 19:12.37 | grrrrr | i have decimated hotkeys by the dozen in the process |
| 19:13.07 | Bille | erect a small graveyard in the bottom corner of your desktop for them ;) |
| 19:14.40 | grrrrr | hmm, now that klipper doesnt own the keys, intellij still cant see them |
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| 19:15.54 | anisX | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.14 | thiago | anisX: for what distribution? |
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| 19:16.46 | anisX | fedora core 3 |
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| 19:21.44 | thiago | anisX: try Fedora's FTP site |
| 19:21.55 | anisX | thiago: done with it baby..thanks a lot |
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| 19:31.56 | ScytheBlade1 | we've for focus follow mouse, how about mouse follow focus though? :P |
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| 19:34.37 | anisX | yayyyyy!!!!at last i can strip amarok with fc3!!! |
| 19:34.39 | anisX | yahoooooooooo |
| 19:36.13 | anisX | :p |
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| 19:36.44 | sredna | Nice, anisX :) |
| 19:37.41 | anisX | sredna: ah..just very patient person can teaching me playing amarok on fc3 |
| 19:37.54 | Dhraakellian | wow... gnome's window snapping is much clumsier than KDE's |
| 19:38.00 | Dhraakellian | well, with the default wm |
| 19:38.10 | dwango | yeah its very "strong" |
| 19:38.13 | Dhraakellian | and default settings, at any rate |
| 19:38.17 | sredna | :) |
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| 19:43.06 | scorp_ | hi |
| 19:43.07 | scorp_ | ;/ |
| 19:43.10 | scorp_ | anyone here ? |
| 19:43.14 | TPC | hello. how can I import bookmarks into konqueror from firefox? |
| 19:43.31 | scorp_ | I can't get sound to work in KDE :/ |
| 19:43.40 | TPC | nevermind, found it |
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| 19:49.23 | anisX | sredna: does amaroK has the skins ? |
| 19:49.37 | sredna | I dont' know, anisX |
| 19:49.53 | markey | yop |
| 19:49.55 | markey | what's up |
| 19:50.02 | sredna | Does amaroL have skins? |
| 19:50.04 | kilrae | does krecipe crash on other people? |
| 19:50.07 | markey | kinda |
| 19:50.08 | sredna | AmaroK even |
| 19:50.13 | Dhraakellian | context browser stylesheets |
| 19:50.18 | markey | we have theming support for the context browser |
| 19:50.20 | markey | yeah |
| 19:50.24 | markey | with CSS styles |
| 19:50.33 | sredna | anisX: Are you listening? |
| 19:50.38 | markey | and you can use some superkaramba interfaces |
| 19:50.43 | markey | from kde-apps |
| 19:50.53 | Dhraakellian | otherwise, though, amarok follows KDE's theming |
| 19:51.00 | anisX | sredna: yes.. |
| 19:51.04 | sredna | :) |
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| 19:51.13 | anisX | maybe i take karamba as "skins" for my amarok |
| 19:51.15 | anisX | whoahh |
| 19:51.17 | anisX | amarok rocks |
| 19:51.32 | sarah03 | ... I hate dialup. |
| 19:51.38 | apokryphos | rocks my socks |
| 19:51.46 | sredna | .. so whoever named it was not completely dum :o |
| 19:51.55 | sredna | Hi sarah03 :) |
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| 19:52.03 | sarah03 | 'ello. :) |
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| 19:52.19 | simmerz | are there styles available for the kopete history plugin? |
| 19:52.42 | scorp_ | so can anyone help me with sound in kde :/ ? |
| 19:53.15 | anisX | sarah03: come here..stay with me , enjoy the ADSL 512k and 1 MB leased line |
| 19:53.51 | markey | no, come to me, enjoy my 1mbit/512kbit sdsl line :) |
| 19:54.12 | markey | I can also cook |
| 19:54.14 | markey | somewhat |
| 19:54.15 | anisX | arr..she is a girl , cant stay with ya markey :p |
| 19:54.25 | anisX | girls is better than man in cooking |
| 19:54.26 | anisX | lol~ |
| 19:54.32 | slayerbob | :o |
| 19:54.36 | slayerbob | since when ? |
| 19:54.37 | slayerbob | LOL |
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| 19:54.47 | anisX | arr uncle bob again |
| 19:54.48 | scorp_ | I can't hear any sound in KDE o_O |
| 19:54.52 | scorp_ | anyone interested ? |
| 19:54.54 | slayerbob | :P |
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| 19:57.39 | thiago | scorp_: is artsd running? |
| 19:57.46 | scorp_ | thiago: how to check |
| 19:57.57 | scorp_ | :)) |
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| 19:58.57 | scorp_ | thiago: well |
| 19:59.05 | scorp_ | I think |
| 19:59.15 | scorp_ | it's doing it's best on blocking /dev/dsp |
| 19:59.30 | scorp_ | but not producing any sound when tabing on the Test Sound button |
| 20:00.31 | anisX | markey: can u give me the suggestion karamba with amarok ? |
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| 20:01.04 | thiago | scorp_: so, it is running? |
| 20:01.34 | scorp_ | thiago: well I don't know, but can u tell me how to check ;/ |
| 20:01.39 | scorp_ | ? o_O |
| 20:01.48 | thiago | ps axf |
| 20:01.53 | thiago | if it's listed, it's runnig |
| 20:03.25 | scorp_ | let's say it's not running |
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| 20:04.37 | froggero1 | how can I change the kmenu button? |
| 20:05.22 | anisX | froggero1: if i at your place , i will find the themes for kde..that is all |
| 20:05.42 | scorp_ | thiago: does alsa have to be started ? |
| 20:06.07 | markey | anisX: you have to search on kde-apps.org |
| 20:06.11 | froggero1 | anisX, I have a pretty good theme now... I just want the one button changed :/ |
| 20:08.13 | thiago | scorp_: yes, but ALSA isn't a service |
| 20:08.16 | thiago | alsa is the kernel modules |
| 20:08.24 | thiago | artsd must be running and it's started by the KDE startup |
| 20:08.55 | anisX | markey: arh..i just find it at kde-look.org |
| 20:09.09 | scorp_ | thiago: I started kde by going root |
| 20:09.14 | scorp_ | then typing |
| 20:09.15 | scorp_ | kdm |
| 20:09.22 | scorp_ | logging in to my normal account from there :F |
| 20:10.11 | thiago | scorp_: do you have artsd in your system? |
| 20:10.50 | scorp_ | yes |
| 20:11.40 | anisX | roarr..got one msg "cpu overload" |
| 20:11.41 | anisX | sigh |
| 20:11.49 | scorp_ | thiago: and in Control Center > Sound System it's all enabled |
| 20:11.56 | thiago | scorp_: is artsd running now? |
| 20:13.31 | scorp_ | thiago: |
| 20:13.36 | scorp_ | no can't see it :F |
| 20:13.42 | thiago | start it |
| 20:13.59 | scorp_ | thiago: type artsd ? |
| 20:13.59 | scorp_ | :) |
| 20:14.30 | thiago | yes |
| 20:15.05 | scorp_ | well |
| 20:15.12 | scorp_ | likely done ^^ |
| 20:15.20 | thiago | is it running now? |
| 20:15.25 | StevenR | is there a way to wordcount a latex/dvi/postscript/pdf document without having to strip the LaTeX source? (using kile/kpdf/kghostview/kdvi) |
| 20:15.42 | scorp_ | thiago: well I typed artsd in konsole |
| 20:15.47 | scorp_ | and it's like running :/ |
| 20:15.59 | thiago | ok, are your volumes up from mute? |
| 20:16.01 | Dhraakellian | <mode=whineyTroll> Gnome has such a cool keyboard layout preview. KDE doesn't have this. Therefore KDE sucks and Gnome totally rocks! |
| 20:16.06 | Dhraakellian | </mode> |
| 20:16.47 | scorp_ | thiago: I could play files with mpg123 |
| 20:16.52 | scorp_ | but now /dev/dsp is blocked |
| 20:17.01 | scorp_ | and volumes are up |
| 20:17.56 | anisX | arrr...one more people , what should i do to untar the file.tar ? tar xvf ? |
| 20:18.25 | scorp_ | thiago: what do I do now :F |
| 20:18.29 | froggero1 | how can you get the trash can to stay off of the desktop? |
| 20:18.51 | thiago | scorp_: now you play files with arts, not with something else |
| 20:18.55 | thiago | that's why arts exists |
| 20:19.00 | thiago | anisX: yes |
| 20:19.43 | anisX | thiago: i got error ouput then do the tar xvf for file.tar |
| 20:20.43 | scorp_ | thiago: well xmms played ;) |
| 20:20.53 | scorp_ | but I can't hear sounds when I minimize or maximize stuff |
| 20:20.57 | scorp_ | and test sounds |
| 20:21.01 | scorp_ | that are enabled :F |
| 20:21.56 | thiago | anisX: what error? |
| 20:23.46 | anisX | [genetics@owned karamba]$ tar xvf zion_alternate_edition_v2.1.tar |
| 20:23.47 | anisX | tar: This does not look like a tar archive |
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| 20:26.30 | anisX | thiago: if you busy...we can continue it tommorow |
| 20:26.31 | anisX | :) |
| 20:27.05 | thiago | anisX: the error is self-explanatory |
| 20:27.09 | thiago | the file isn't a tarball |
| 20:27.12 | Dhraakellian | so... |
| 20:27.19 | thiago | run this: file zion_alternate_edition_v2.1.tar |
| 20:28.01 | Dhraakellian | should I keep using the gnome liveCD in order to give gnome more of a "fair trial," or should I just go back to my good ol' gentoo and KDE? |
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| 20:28.09 | anisX | [genetics@owned karamba]$ file zion_alternate_edition_v2.1.tar |
| 20:28.10 | anisX | zion_alternate_edition_v2.1.tar: gzip compressed data, from Unix |
| 20:29.11 | anisX | thiago: tar zxvf...done! |
| 20:29.14 | anisX | thanks a lot Theory |
| 20:29.15 | anisX | erks |
| 20:29.19 | anisX | *thiago |
| 20:30.00 | kandinski | hey, can anyone tell me how to configure a network (IP, gateway, mask) under the KDE gui control panel? It seems to have options for everything but for this. |
| 20:30.25 | kandinski | we are using 3.3 from Debian Sid |
| 20:31.16 | anisX | thanks all..need to sleep |
| 20:31.35 | anisX | see ya tommorow..i will disturb the gurus here again..no worries :p |
| 20:31.51 | markey | nite anisX |
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| 20:35.59 | anisX | bubye all...muahxx! |
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| 20:42.54 | florg | hi, in kde3.3, can i still change konqueror to double click mode? i'm searching all the time and can't find the option... |
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| 20:53.59 | light_ | while building kde via konstruct xine made a boo boo, it was only a typo for an extention, where or who do i talk to to fix it? |
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| 20:58.57 | Toman | In ksplash Theme.rc's, is it possible to disable the "restoring session" progress bar? The ksplash documentation seems outdated and it does not list any such option. |
| 20:59.12 | Toman | I'm using kde 3.3 |
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| 21:08.11 | Flendor | Good evening. |
| 21:09.40 | Oleg_ | people, can I create games like Quake using QT? |
| 21:09.44 | Oleg_ | I guess not |
| 21:10.00 | annma | Oleg_: do you have any idea what a Quake game suppose? |
| 21:10.06 | annma | I guess not |
| 21:10.36 | Oleg_ | hehe |
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| 21:23.24 | vpalle | is there anyway to completely remove the "bell" in konsole |
| 21:24.14 | annma | Settings->Bell->none |
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| 21:24.39 | vpalle | cant see the none value.. |
| 21:25.09 | vpalle | theres System Bell, System notification and Visible bell |
| 21:25.38 | annma | what kde version? |
| 21:25.47 | annma | I have 3.4 |
| 21:25.54 | vpalle | 3.3 |
| 21:26.01 | annma | so when you upgrade you'll have it |
| 21:26.02 | vpalle | thats probably it then :/ |
| 21:26.12 | annma | 3.4 final is out in a few days |
| 21:26.23 | kilrae | why are all the kde image viewers odd? |
| 21:26.34 | annma | kilrae: all? |
| 21:26.41 | annma | there are quite a few |
| 21:26.51 | annma | you should find one that suits you |
| 21:27.04 | kilrae | well, i've tried all the ones that come with kde and in kdeextragear |
| 21:27.13 | annma | none pleases you? |
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| 21:28.27 | annma | depends of your use, kilrae |
| 21:28.45 | kilrae | i'm looking for one that will scale large images down if they're too big to display but the ones that can do that are either huge apps or you have to break some other feature to get that to work |
| 21:28.48 | Dhraakellian | ah, kde, how nifty thou art |
| 21:29.08 | pankey | im having a problem with kdmrc |
| 21:29.21 | pankey | its not showing fvwm or enlightenment |
| 21:29.35 | pankey | *? |
| 21:29.47 | Dhraakellian | ending the action |
| 21:29.56 | pankey | ohhhhhhhhhhhh |
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| 21:30.43 | pankey | doesnt kdmrc check in Xsessions? |
| 21:31.02 | Dhraakellian | kilrae, having just walked in, I'll say that gqview isn't too bad of an image viewer if you don't mind gtk |
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| 21:32.02 | kilrae | Dhra: bit heavy for previewing though |
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| 21:32.37 | kilrae | kuickshow may actually be ok |
| 21:32.41 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 21:32.51 | Dhraakellian | kuick and dirty |
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| 21:33.35 | RomanK | Hi all! |
| 21:33.42 | kilrae | oooh, a photo of my room showing my computer running gnome |
| 21:34.32 | RomanK | Is there a way to tell all KDE-Apps to use another browser (e.g. firefox) by default (when clicking on links) but without having konqueror starting firefox when a url is entered in the adress-line |
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| 21:36.07 | kyle__ | Hi. How do I change the font... |
| 21:36.25 | kyle__ | It's small. |
| 21:36.40 | Dhraakellian | kcontrol > Appearance & Themes > Fonts |
| 21:36.47 | annma | KControl -> Appearance & Themes -> Font |
| 21:36.51 | annma | s |
| 21:36.59 | annma | he types faster |
| 21:37.24 | Dhraakellian | that should work for KDE apps |
| 21:38.17 | kilrae | hmmm, to autofs or to not autfs |
| 21:38.32 | Dhraakellian | for gnome/gtk apps, either use something like gtk-qt (which can tell gtk apps to use KDE styles and fonts) or change the fonts with something like gnome-control-center, gtk-chtheme, or gtk-theme-switch |
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| 21:41.20 | kilrae | i think spiderman should get paid |
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| 21:41.50 | derkling | just a simple question: where can I find documentation about KDE Print Filters Editing? |
| 21:41.56 | kilrae | if everyone in new york would give him a dollar he could fight crime full time |
| 21:44.05 | annma | derkling: what is that? a KDE class? |
| 21:44.42 | kyle__ | i need to configure fonts for every program |
| 21:45.36 | Dhraakellian | didn't we tell him how to do such a thing? |
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| 21:46.08 | annma | derkling: explain? |
| 21:47.17 | derkling | annma, I need to produce the "%%Titel:" TAG into ps generated when i print a doc... |
| 21:47.27 | derkling | not all KDE applications produce that tag... |
| 21:47.44 | derkling | so I'm in trobles with an application I'm writeing... |
| 21:48.16 | derkling | The point is: if I'm able to write a my own KDEPrint filter I could be able to insert myself that TAG... |
| 21:48.20 | derkling | into the ps... |
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| 21:48.51 | derkling | but I've not found documentation about writing that filters, or KDEPrint extension... |
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| 21:50.46 | annma | did you look at the API doc? |
| 21:52.09 | Toman | when making splash screens, do they have to be 400px wide? |
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| 21:52.31 | Flendor | Re. |
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| 21:53.50 | hambley | Evening, i cant find on the internet why |
| 21:53.51 | hambley | a) my konq doesnt open FTP sites anymore |
| 21:53.51 | hambley | b) my auto-mount feature has stopped working) |
| 21:54.00 | hambley | could anyone suggest something ? |
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| 22:07.29 | zenwhen | hey |
| 22:07.46 | zenwhen | does anyone here know how to get a bookmark folder to show up in the bookmark toolbar in konq? |
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| 22:08.12 | zenwhen | I selected a few folder in the bookmark editor and selected "show in toolbar" but they dont |
| 22:08.17 | zenwhen | folders* |
| 22:16.56 | PieD | @+++ |
| 22:18.49 | Bille | zenwhen: quit all konquerors first, then in the editor, 'set as toolbar folder' |
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| 22:22.58 | zenwhen | Bille, i did that just now |
| 22:23.08 | zenwhen | nothing I do can make asnything appear in that bar |
| 22:23.32 | zenwhen | fresh kubunu install |
| 22:23.32 | zenwhen | kubuntu* |
| 22:23.35 | Bille | zenwhen: i just tried it too, it seems a bit shaky, but it worked |
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| 22:23.52 | Bille | try kdekillall konqueror to make sure there isn't a hidden instance |
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| 22:25.23 | Med | Hi! I've a dual head setup. I'd like to know if it is possible to attach one screen to one virtual desktop and another screen to a second virtual desktop. If so can someone point me to the HOWTO please? Thanks |
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| 22:28.45 | zenwhen | thanks Bille |
| 22:28.46 | zenwhen | that did it |
| 22:29.08 | Bille | zenwhen: np |
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| 22:30.20 | CapNemo | hello :) |
| 22:30.44 | CapNemo | kde has plans to integrate acl managment in konqueror ? |
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| 22:43.27 | rabauke | hello! |
| 22:43.51 | canllaith | :) |
| 22:43.59 | rabauke | OT question, how does one delete an account in a bugzilla system? |
| 22:43.59 | slayerbob | goodbye! |
| 22:44.08 | canllaith | lol cya slayerbob |
| 22:46.53 | canllaith | bbl going to lunch |
| 22:47.36 | pankey | k :) |
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| 22:54.27 | ciga | re |
| 22:55.15 | ciga | I did not started kde with startkde, but only with kwin. How will be my xmodmap work? |
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| 22:56.36 | sredna | ciga: Well you are not really running kde then |
| 22:57.05 | sredna | ciga: Then, kde does not run xmodmap. |
| 22:59.59 | ciga | sredna: maybe I should run ksplash :) |
| 23:00.16 | sredna | You're joking |
| 23:00.26 | ciga | got a better one. |
| 23:00.32 | ciga | kwrapper ksmserver $KDEWM |
| 23:00.42 | ciga | eh |
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| 23:02.56 | Ashdurbat | "Wednesday March 16th, 2005: Targeted Release date" <-- is this happening? |
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| 23:09.25 | sarah03 | Mm. That was fun. |
| 23:09.37 | sarah03 | Debugging infinite recursion is just absolutely wonderful. |
| 23:10.03 | ciga | :) |
| 23:22.06 | florg | hi, how can i get konqueror in double click mode, without the internet-link-behaviour? |
| 23:23.07 | r00tsh3ll | someone could suggest me a tool like 'babytrans' for kde? |
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| 23:24.59 | ciga | what is babytrans? |
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| 23:26.17 | r00tsh3ll | ciga, a tool to translate words |
| 23:26.19 | rabauke | florg: Go to kcontrol > connected devices > mouse, first tab second frame |
| 23:26.46 | ciga | r00tsh3ll: kdict? |
| 23:26.49 | r00tsh3ll | can i use kdict to translate? |
| 23:27.23 | ciga | well, I think it does in English. |
| 23:28.04 | r00tsh3ll | i think it doesnt.. but lemme check some docs |
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| 23:48.50 | Tronic | What does "kde enable final" mean? |
| 23:48.57 | Tronic | (when building stuff on Gentoo) |
| 23:50.12 | sarah03 | Tronic: It causes emerge to pass '--enable-final' as a configure option. Generally, when it works properly [most of the time, that is], it causes the packages in question to compile faster at the expense of using more memory during the compilation. |
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| 23:52.33 | Tronic | Okay.. Since there is plenty of memory (I suppose that one gig is), that seems like a good idea. |
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