| 00:00.18 | grepper | Borg^Queen: you are sure there is not a more recent one ? |
| 00:01.49 | Borg^Queen | This is the most recent |
| 00:04.02 | grepper | maybe try cvs then |
| 00:05.53 | Borg^Queen | No dice |
| 00:06.22 | Borg^Queen | Is there a kbear chan? |
| 00:09.45 | grepper | I doubt it |
| 00:09.50 | grepper | you tried cvs already ? |
| 00:10.07 | Borg^Queen | A similar error |
| 00:10.19 | grepper | there is no binary package for your distro ? |
| 00:10.39 | Borg^Queen | Hmm, I hate rpms but I guess I'll check |
| 00:10.43 | Borg^Queen | Thank brb |
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| 00:13.13 | ruggy | how would i go about adding a konqeror button for root to kicker? |
| 00:13.46 | grepper | Borg^Queen: what qt version do you use ? |
| 00:13.52 | Borg^Queen | 3.1.x |
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| 00:15.56 | grepper | kde version ? |
| 00:16.02 | Borg^Queen | maybe if I try to rebuid the src rpm it will tell me what I'm missing if any... |
| 00:16.06 | Borg^Queen | 3.1.4.x |
| 00:16.39 | grepper | ok |
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| 00:36.05 | df001z | Hey. I'm using kde 3.2 |
| 00:36.06 | df001z | XMMS doesn't minimize properly..it does in 3.1 and every other window manager/desktop environment |
| 00:36.12 | df001z | anyone have a similar problem? |
| 00:37.37 | annma | what does it do? |
| 00:37.46 | df001z | Only the main window minimizes |
| 00:37.50 | df001z | the equalizer and playlist wont |
| 00:38.26 | Borg^Queen | Ah they may be set differently |
| 00:38.38 | annma | when I minimise the player the playlist goes too |
| 00:38.46 | Borg^Queen | xmms has independant controls for its subpanels |
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| 00:39.25 | df001z | Borg: Any idea how to fix? |
| 00:40.25 | Borg^Queen | right click on xmms itself and check out the options. See if the playlist and etc are set to always ontop |
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| 00:45.27 | df001z | no |
| 00:45.39 | df001z | They arnt set to always on top..they dont have an option to be set to always on top |
| 00:47.29 | annma | df001z: version of xmms? |
| 00:47.32 | df001z | Borg: Where can you set playlist to be on top? |
| 00:47.32 | df001z | under options it just says Always on top, but not for the playlist |
| 00:47.33 | df001z | just in general |
| 00:47.56 | df001z | 1.2.10 |
| 00:49.15 | df001z | Any other ideas? |
| 00:50.23 | df001z | be right back |
| 00:50.26 | Chaz | Can anyone tell me how to keep KMix from using my volume controls on my keyboard? I want to use those keys for something else. |
| 00:50.27 | annma | df001z: maybe google for it, it's not really a KDE question |
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| 00:54.12 | df001z | Back |
| 00:54.14 | df001z | any other ideas? |
| 00:55.03 | Borg^Queen | did you disable the alway ontop? |
| 00:55.14 | df001z | Yes |
| 00:55.34 | Borg^Queen | Hmm, did you uninstall and reinstall xmms? |
| 00:55.54 | Borg^Queen | If you uninstall, get rid of the .xmms dir you in user home |
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| 00:56.10 | df001z | i didnt uninstall and reinstall |
| 00:56.23 | Borg^Queen | Chaz: does the keyboard have a setup program in Linux? |
| 00:56.28 | Trisk[awaay] | Chaz: right-click on the channel that's being affected |
| 00:56.33 | Borg^Queen | Uninstall it and then reinstall it |
| 00:56.33 | Chaz | o.o |
| 00:56.34 | Trisk[awaay] | Chaz: in kmix |
| 00:56.41 | df001z | What good will that do o.0 |
| 00:57.08 | annma | df001z: well, maybe it'll work as you expect |
| 00:57.20 | Chaz | Wha? |
| 00:57.21 | annma | df001z: what distro is it? |
| 00:57.24 | df001z | Gentoo |
| 00:57.32 | df001z | Its a bug in KDE to my knowledge |
| 00:57.32 | annma | ok ok |
| 00:57.34 | Borg^Queen | If xmms was borked during the upgrade, reinstall it may repair it |
| 00:57.55 | annma | df001z: nope, I have kde form sources and xmms minimizes all its windows |
| 00:58.10 | df001z | Which version of KDE and XMMS? |
| 00:58.15 | Trisk[awaay] | Chaz: open the kmix window and right-click on the channel that your keys control the volume of. select the option to set shortcuts |
| 00:58.18 | annma | kde from source but not from gentoo |
| 00:58.23 | Chaz | My problem is that when kdeinit is running, KMix grabs my media keys.. |
| 00:58.32 | df001z | Which version of KDE? |
| 00:58.45 | Chaz | Trisk[awaay]: Ah. I see. Uh.. what would I run? Kmix? (I'm not in kwin..) |
| 00:59.07 | Chaz | Running kmix in console just opens then immediately closes kmix. |
| 00:59.24 | Trisk[awaay] | Chaz: is kmix already in the systray? |
| 00:59.24 | annma | df001z: curretly popst 3.2 but I had 3.2 before and never had your problem |
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| 00:59.31 | Chaz | uhh |
| 00:59.36 | Chaz | No systray in this wm :) |
| 00:59.51 | Chaz | Its entirely possible that it would be if there was one though. |
| 00:59.51 | df001z | Odd |
| 00:59.53 | Trisk[awaay] | oh, not running kicker then.. |
| 00:59.55 | df001z | I saw it in a bug report |
| 01:00.24 | annma | df001z: number? |
| 01:00.31 | df001z | http://bugs.xmms.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1608 |
| 01:00.42 | annma | not port |
| 01:00.48 | annma | not a kde report |
| 01:00.49 | Trisk[awaay] | dcop kmix 'kmix-mainwindow#1' show |
| 01:01.04 | df001z | Thats an XMMS report |
| 01:01.16 | Trisk[awaay] | kmix doesn't run here unless I explicitly start it, which is odd in your case... |
| 01:01.18 | df001z | KDE changed something with its window management handeling |
| 01:01.38 | Trisk[awaay] | (well, you could have a saved session that somehow starts it with a hidden systray icon) |
| 01:01.55 | seaSceaDa | it's a kde bug in kwin |
| 01:02.17 | seaSceaDa | i got a bugfix here for 3.2.1 (replacement for the client.cpp in kwin from kde 3.2.1) |
| 01:02.36 | df001z | seaSceaDa: for xmms? |
| 01:02.36 | seaSceaDa | but maybe just use cvs of kdebase for the bug to be fixed |
| 01:02.39 | seaSceaDa | no for kde |
| 01:02.44 | seaSceaDa | it's not a xmms bug |
| 01:02.48 | seaSceaDa | it's a kde kwin bug |
| 01:02.53 | seaSceaDa | fixed in newest cvs |
| 01:02.57 | df001z | Ah |
| 01:03.01 | annma | df001z: it says it was a kwin problem, maybe when kwin changed version |
| 01:03.03 | seaSceaDa | but still not in 3.2.2 |
| 01:03.11 | df001z | can I rebuild kwin without rebuilding all of KDE? |
| 01:03.15 | seaSceaDa | yes kwin lost the netwm compliance |
| 01:03.18 | annma | is it all that unconvenient anyway? |
| 01:03.20 | seaSceaDa | hm i dunno |
| 01:03.32 | annma | maybe you could try amaroK |
| 01:03.39 | seaSceaDa | do you want the client.cpp for version 3.2.1 ? |
| 01:03.47 | df001z | I doubt thats a good idea |
| 01:03.50 | annma | df001z: no, you'll run into problem |
| 01:03.50 | df001z | since im using 3.2.2 |
| 01:03.58 | seaSceaDa | i merged in the bugfix from cvs |
| 01:04.00 | seaSceaDa | mhh.... |
| 01:04.02 | df001z | Hrm. Thats an annoyance |
| 01:04.05 | seaSceaDa | than maybe just try cvs of kdebase |
| 01:04.06 | annma | df001z: just use another player, no? |
| 01:04.08 | df001z | I wonder if gentoo can build from CVS for me |
| 01:04.11 | df001z | annma: like? |
| 01:04.15 | annma | juK or amaroK |
| 01:04.33 | annma | afaik they have the same capabilities |
| 01:04.43 | seaSceaDa | mh |
| 01:04.56 | df001z | Does the playlist have a jump feature? |
| 01:05.01 | annma | jump? |
| 01:05.02 | seaSceaDa | i used the latest cvs snapshot in gentoo to build it |
| 01:05.17 | df001z | In xmms, you press j |
| 01:05.21 | seaSceaDa | but i'd just try newest kdebase cvs if i were you |
| 01:05.29 | df001z | and you can type in a word/words |
| 01:05.32 | df001z | and itl search your playlist |
| 01:05.34 | df001z | for matching songs |
| 01:05.35 | seaSceaDa | i also got kdelibs from cvs .... rest is 3.2.1 ... kdebase with the kwin fix .... |
| 01:05.36 | df001z | and filter them out |
| 01:05.42 | annma | seaSceaDa: newest kdebase needs newest kdelibs |
| 01:05.47 | seaSceaDa | hm ok |
| 01:05.58 | annma | be careful about new addition in kdelibs |
| 01:06.22 | seaSceaDa | with kdelibs new and rest older it works .. |
| 01:06.25 | seaSceaDa | for me.... |
| 01:06.29 | seaSceaDa | so now i gtg |
| 01:06.46 | seaSceaDa | n8 cu all |
| 01:06.56 | Borg^Queen | nite |
| 01:07.24 | annma | you have a search facility in amaroK |
| 01:07.29 | seaSceaDa | borg o.O ... just got a background with a borg -ship i did in gimp ;D ...... good night |
| 01:07.46 | annma | scode: kdelibs new and the rest old is ok, the reverse is not ok though |
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| 01:11.46 | Chaz | Took me a bit to get the settings up, but there is no mention of my volume keys in the settings for kmix. |
| 01:12.28 | Trisk[awaay] | Chaz: really? |
| 01:12.50 | Chaz | Really. |
| 01:13.12 | Trisk[awaay] | in the shortcuts dialog? |
| 01:13.19 | Chaz | Right. Nothin. |
| 01:13.23 | Chaz | For master or PCM |
| 01:13.37 | Karinu | Is there anyone here familiar with autoconf? |
| 01:14.02 | Trisk[awaay] | too familiar... |
| 01:14.07 | annma | Karinu: ask your question and we'll see |
| 01:14.15 | annma | Trisk[awaay]: ;) |
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| 01:15.59 | Karinu | I've finally isolated a bug in kdeedu. I think the place it'd need to be fixed is acinclude.m4 but I just can't tell what needs to be done exactly on the high level side. I have managed to partially fix the problem by editing the configure script itself, |
| 01:16.36 | Karinu | but I'm not looking forward to stripping out the instructions for rebuilding configure from the hundreds of Makefiles... |
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| 01:17.21 | Karinu | The problem at the end is that the ac_link variable (and possibly others) are stale; values specific to older tests are not being replaced by later tests. |
| 01:17.26 | annma | Karinu: oh, please do explain |
| 01:17.37 | annma | where in kdeedu is the bug? |
| 01:18.01 | Karinu | The bug is in configure, and thus in whatever relevant input file was used to generate it |
| 01:18.11 | annma | what does the bug do? |
| 01:18.23 | annma | what prog does it affect? |
| 01:18.37 | Karinu | Basically, it uses the wrong command to test for the usability of -lpython |
| 01:18.45 | Borg^Queen | grepper I got it working, thanks for your help |
| 01:18.51 | annma | Karinu: Kig? |
| 01:19.19 | Karinu | It affects Kig, yeah. It's not a part of Kig though, it's just a broken test regarding how Kig is built |
| 01:19.30 | Karinu | Broken series of tests, really |
| 01:19.32 | annma | I know but I need specifics |
| 01:19.47 | annma | do you have kdeedu cvs HEAD? |
| 01:19.59 | Karinu | No. I'm still using 3.2.2 |
| 01:20.07 | annma | Karinu: I am kdeedu maintainer |
| 01:20.40 | annma | ok, can I see in HEAD how it is? |
| 01:20.48 | annma | what should I look for? |
| 01:20.50 | Karinu | I can send you a diff of my quick hack fix if it will help. I've managed to get the check for -lpython to pass, though I'm still working on the test for boost/python.hpp |
| 01:21.22 | annma | yes |
| 01:21.24 | Karinu | ...I'm not sure what you'd look for in the original files, but I can tell you where to look in configure once it's build |
| 01:21.49 | annma | well, the problem is that we need to work not in the configure script |
| 01:22.59 | Karinu | right... |
| 01:23.02 | annma | the configure.in is the file |
| 01:23.12 | Karinu | It's not in configure.in as far as I can tell |
| 01:23.21 | Karinu | It must be in something included by it |
| 01:23.47 | Karinu | But I don't know how autoconf works well enough to say what would cause this problem at that end. |
| 01:23.50 | annma | # Check for -lpython. |
| 01:23.50 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.15 | Karinu | I think that's the series before the one that fails.... |
| 01:24.17 | annma | that's the beginning of the python test in configure.in |
| 01:24.39 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.39 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.43 | annma | that one? |
| 01:25.05 | Karinu | Hrm. No, it's between there somehow, so I guess it's part of the earlier one... |
| 01:25.25 | annma | Karinu: so please explain what it does for you |
| 01:25.34 | annma | it does not find the boost lib? |
| 01:25.45 | annma | where does the configure fail? |
| 01:27.21 | Karinu | It says it fails because -lpython depends on another library it couldn't find. |
| 01:27.46 | annma | what lib? |
| 01:28.01 | Karinu | unknown, but that's a bogus error anyway |
| 01:28.09 | annma | could you paste the location of your lib? |
| 01:28.15 | Karinu | config.log shows that the failures were due to Python.h not being found |
| 01:28.28 | annma | and you have Python.h? |
| 01:28.39 | Karinu | The reason is that the value of PYTHONINC was not on the command line used |
| 01:29.12 | annma | well, if I would test in cvs HEAD if the bug is still there, what should I do? |
| 01:29.50 | Karinu | If the bug is still there, it should fail to find Python.h when testing -lpython |
| 01:30.01 | annma | if you do a locate Python.h, what does this bring? |
| 01:30.38 | Karinu | Python.h is in /usr/include/python2.3/Python.h |
| 01:30.49 | Karinu | The first test (looking for files) finds it correctly |
| 01:30.50 | annma | what error exactly does it say? |
| 01:31.20 | Karinu | From config.log: |
| 01:31.34 | Karinu | configure:37540: checking if a Python application links |
| 01:32.32 | annma | and before? |
| 01:33.07 | Karinu | configure:37578: rm -rf SunWS_cache; g++ -o conftest -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 \ |
| 01:33.48 | annma | what is the error when configure stops? in terminal? |
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| 01:34.48 | Karinu | -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -L/usr/lib conftest.cc -lpython2.3 -ldl |
| 01:34.55 | Karinu | 1>&5 |
| 01:35.14 | Karinu | The main thing being, no -I/usr/include/python2.3 |
| 01:35.37 | Karinu | If I copy the original definition of ac_link just before the test, it works correctly |
| 01:35.57 | Karinu | I'm not sure what you mean by when configure stops? You mean the final warnings? |
| 01:37.05 | Borg^Queen | Good night people |
| 01:37.10 | annma | I mean when you run ./configure in kdeedu |
| 01:37.17 | annma | does it fail? |
| 01:37.43 | Karinu | The configure succeeds, it just (incorrectly) reports that Python is not present. |
| 01:38.24 | annma | so what happens after? |
| 01:38.35 | annma | can you use scripts in Kig? |
| 01:39.01 | Karinu | Configure reports that's been disabled |
| 01:39.03 | annma | is there any effect on using a kdeedu prog? |
| 01:39.21 | annma | how does it report that? |
| 01:39.42 | annma | what does it say exactly? |
| 01:41.29 | annma | Karinu: what does the configure script say exactly please? |
| 01:41.53 | Karinu | Give me a moment. The build is on a different machine than I'm IRCing from |
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| 01:42.27 | annma | ok |
| 01:42.52 | Karinu | ...okay, it's not giving me the same message now... that's odd... |
| 01:43.02 | Karinu | Same tests failed, but the warning's gone... |
| 01:44.38 | Karinu | I take that back. One of the tests that was failing is working now. |
| 01:44.58 | Karinu | Not the one I was trying to fix just now, I was going to get to it next... |
| 01:45.46 | annma | so is the configure script finished? |
| 01:46.30 | Karinu | Yeah. It still failed the Python check, but it found Boost.Python successfully. I guess that's enough. |
| 01:47.06 | annma | this python seems to be gone, I don't have that in cvs HEAD |
| 01:47.43 | Karinu | Hmm |
| 01:48.06 | annma | I am looking at my config.log, latest build a few hours ago |
| 01:48.10 | Karinu | I'll go grab the cvs and take a look. |
| 01:48.24 | annma | you'll need kdelibs cvs to compile kdeedu |
| 01:48.36 | annma | a new lib is being used |
| 01:50.20 | annma | Karinu: what is your distro? |
| 01:50.35 | Karinu | hrm |
| 01:50.40 | Karinu | No distro |
| 01:51.03 | Karinu | I'm not feeling up to redoing kdelibs tonight, so I guess I'll wait for a while |
| 01:51.10 | annma | no ro? |
| 01:51.15 | annma | no distro? |
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| 01:51.29 | annma | where do you get your python from then? |
| 01:51.52 | Karinu | www.python.org |
| 01:51.58 | annma | and the rest? |
| 01:52.04 | df001z | hey..annma |
| 01:52.07 | df001z | im trying to install amarok |
| 01:52.10 | df001z | Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gstreamer-plugins-0.8.pc' |
| 01:52.10 | df001z | to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable |
| 01:52.13 | annma | you compile everything from sources from the websites? |
| 01:52.18 | Karinu | Yes. |
| 01:52.30 | annma | that's maybe why you have problems |
| 01:52.32 | df001z | export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/lib/pkgconfig/ |
| 01:52.33 | df001z | gstreamer-pluginsblahblah.pc is in that directory..whats going on? |
| 01:52.33 | Karinu | Except Java. Circular dependency and all that |
| 01:52.46 | annma | Java comes from what then? |
| 01:52.58 | Karinu | java.sun.com |
| 01:52.59 | annma | df001z: gentoo, uh? |
| 01:53.04 | Karinu | They have a binary package |
| 01:53.32 | df001z | annma: nevermind, i have gstreamer-0.8.pc, not that file |
| 01:53.32 | annma | Karinu: well, in that case, if Kig runs ok, I would not bother with that configure.in script |
| 01:53.48 | df001z | annma: gentoo doesnt build amarok properly...it only builds with arts support |
| 01:53.57 | df001z | and doesnt list gstreamer as a dependency |
| 01:54.00 | Karinu | I'm certain this is a bug though. But it sounds like it may be mooted so unless someone else notices something *shrug* |
| 01:54.35 | annma | Karinu: your systen seems so special that it seems difficult to generalize from it |
| 01:55.08 | annma | I have no Python mentionned in my config.log except boost related |
| 01:55.30 | annma | I just have 5 or 6 results for Python in config.log |
| 01:55.38 | Karinu | Well, the comment from acinclude.m4 said the test was fairly weak... my guess is that since the boost detection is enough for most people the test that failed for me was a low priority and got dropped |
| 01:56.08 | annma | I can speak to Kig maintainer so he'll reinforce the test |
| 01:56.23 | annma | I was looking for him but he is in bed I guess |
| 01:56.26 | Karinu | Is it even still there though? |
| 01:56.37 | Karinu | Hang on, I'll dig up the line in acinclude.m4 |
| 01:56.46 | annma | he can be found in #debian-kde |
| 01:57.05 | annma | but not now, he lives in Europe where it is hmm 4 am |
| 01:57.45 | annma | what gcc do you have by the way? |
| 01:57.47 | Karinu | Line 4165 |
| 01:58.13 | Karinu | KDE_TRY_LINK_PYTHON is the function, I hadn't found its definition yet |
| 01:58.13 | annma | I don't have such a line |
| 01:58.31 | Karinu | 3.3.1 |
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| 01:58.58 | annma | my config.log has only 3108 lines in kdeedu |
| 01:59.13 | Karinu | line 4165 of acinclude.m4 |
| 01:59.47 | annma | autoconf version? |
| 02:00.16 | Karinu | I think my autoconf is too old, it refused to rebuild configure for me. I'll probably update it in a bit |
| 02:00.25 | Karinu | 2.57 |
| 02:01.10 | annma | autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.59 |
| 02:01.56 | Karinu | Yeah. I'll update that in a bit. I kinda had to take a break in setting this system up for several months because classes kept me too busy |
| 02:02.38 | Karinu | This is an experiment system to try out Linux 2.6, and some newer software, since I don't want to mess with my existing system's setup. |
| 02:02.42 | annma | if you have a specific error due to the script then it might be abug but if it's just some lines in the acinclude.m4 that says the test is weak then it's ok |
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| 02:03.05 | Karinu | I have a specific error, I just don't seem to be able to describe it. |
| 02:03.17 | annma | you cannot tell me any output for it |
| 02:03.28 | annma | nor what it prevents you to do |
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| 02:05.20 | komplot | hi ppl |
| 02:05.20 | Karinu | Well, the bug is moot if the boost thing works seemingly. Which is why I thought the test might have been dropped since 3.2.2 anyway. |
| 02:05.20 | komplot | need to know... how can i disable sound server? |
| 02:05.20 | komplot | (using kde3) |
| 02:05.35 | jaxxan | i can't seem to get konqueror to display php pages |
| 02:06.05 | annma | jaxxan: right click on a php file in the file manager, select properties |
| 02:06.12 | Karinu | I listed the compiler command though, and the error it produced (that Python.h couldn't be found) and how I managed to fix it in configure itself. I just don't know what the high-level equivalent of the fix is. |
| 02:06.24 | annma | see if konqueror is on top of the applications listed to view them |
| 02:06.45 | annma | Karinu: I need the configure script error first |
| 02:07.02 | annma | Karinu: you don't seem to reproduce it |
| 02:07.37 | annma | Python.h not found was an error during make? |
| 02:07.51 | Karinu | No, it was a conftest error |
| 02:07.59 | Karinu | hang on, I'll type the output |
| 02:08.25 | annma | the uotput of the configure script please |
| 02:08.36 | annma | not the lines in config.log |
| 02:08.39 | Karinu | right |
| 02:08.53 | annma | I need the error where the configure script stops and fails |
| 02:08.54 | Karinu | Okay, this part came over stderr: |
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| 02:09.11 | Karinu | configure: WARNING: it seems, Python depends on another library. |
| 02:09.31 | Karinu | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:09.36 | Karinu | fix this |
| 02:09.47 | Karinu | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:09.51 | annma | it does not stop here |
| 02:09.55 | Karinu | no |
| 02:10.08 | annma | so it does not fail |
| 02:10.36 | annma | does the configure script say you have boost? |
| 02:11.12 | Karinu | No. Only the tests fail. However, I've confirmed the tests fail only because the CFLAGS argument that is set up for the test is not present on the actual g++ command line that is being executed to make the test |
| 02:11.22 | Karinu | Yes, it finds boost |
| 02:12.28 | annma | and scripting works |
| 02:12.54 | Karinu | I haven't verified that yet. I've got a somewhat slow system, it'll probably take an hour or two to build |
| 02:12.54 | annma | so this does not prevent anything to work |
| 02:16.55 | annma | the configure script here detects that boost is not installed, correctly |
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| 02:17.08 | annma | installing it and seing after |
| 02:17.12 | Karinu | At the moment it does not appear to be creating a problem. It's simply a matter of tests that are always going to return false. |
| 02:17.30 | Karinu | The failing tests aren't looking for boost |
| 02:17.55 | annma | how is your python compiled? |
| 02:17.56 | Karinu | They're looking to link to libpython2.3 directly |
| 02:18.16 | Karinu | --prefix=/usr --enable-shared |
| 02:18.23 | annma | my config.log does not mention ibpython2.3 |
| 02:18.41 | annma | and how is your kdeedu compiled? |
| 02:18.42 | Karinu | how about -lpython |
| 02:18.56 | Karinu | --disable-debug --disable-dependency-tracking |
| 02:19.12 | annma | hmmm |
| 02:19.21 | annma | what about ./configure alone? |
| 02:19.37 | annma | no lpython in my config.log |
| 02:19.52 | Karinu | Then the test must have been dropped from CVS HEAD |
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| 02:20.58 | Vixtro | yikes |
| 02:21.22 | Vixtro | um i used ksim to check my ram usage and it said that i have 64 mb of ram left when gkrellm says that I have 182 |
| 02:22.00 | annma | checking boost/shared_ptr.hpp usability... yes |
| 02:22.00 | annma | checking boost/shared_ptr.hpp presence... yes |
| 02:22.00 | annma | checking for boost/shared_ptr.hpp... yes |
| 02:22.01 | annma | checking for boost.python with /usr/include/python2.3/Python.h... yes |
| 02:22.01 | annma | checking for /usr/lib//libpython2.3 and with /usr/include/python2.3/Python.h... yes |
| 02:22.18 | Karinu | hrm |
| 02:22.20 | annma | before it stopped at: checking for boost/shared_ptr.hpp... yes |
| 02:22.30 | annma | as it was a no |
| 02:22.34 | Karinu | Those checks aren't present in 3.2.2 |
| 02:23.10 | annma | now it checks for lpython |
| 02:23.15 | annma | now that I have boost |
| 02:23.29 | Karinu | hmm |
| 02:23.42 | annma | PYTHON_LDFLAGS='-L/usr/lib/' |
| 02:23.42 | annma | PYTHON_LIBS='-lpython2.3 ' |
| 02:23.44 | Karinu | in 3.2.2 it checks for lpython first, before checking for boost |
| 02:23.51 | annma | so it changed |
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| 02:24.50 | Karinu | same results with no flags |
| 02:25.00 | dblSHOT | erm, how do I get my taskbar back? I loaded a superkaramba theme and it got rid of my taskbar... =/ |
| 02:25.19 | annma | run kicker in a terminal |
| 02:25.44 | annma | or Alt+F2 and kicker in the command |
| 02:25.49 | dblSHOT | annma, thanks very much |
| 02:26.04 | annma | you're welcome |
| 02:26.13 | dblSHOT | got very worried there =) |
| 02:26.29 | annma | ;) yes |
| 02:27.06 | annma | Karinu: when you have time install kde cvs head or kde 3.3 beta which will be out soon and se how it goes |
| 02:27.36 | annma | Karinu: it is likely to be too late to fix that sort of stuff for 3.3 anyway |
| 02:28.33 | Karinu | When I have time is likely to be August though. Summer classes start in 2 weeks |
| 02:28.42 | annma | maybe kde will get out of autoconf |
| 02:29.19 | dblSHOT | hrm, maybe you guys could answer this question too, my mouse freaks out sometimes and moves things around on the taskbar and starts running programs and such w/out me pushing any buttons, it does this just by moving the mouse... =/ |
| 02:29.34 | annma | there's a new thing coming for replacing automake, I don't know if autoconf is also threatened |
| 02:30.05 | annma | dblSHOT: hmm, does your mouse only do that in kde? |
| 02:30.06 | Karinu | Oookay... that sounds odd... are you running any accessibility programs |
| 02:30.08 | Karinu | ? |
| 02:30.18 | dblSHOT | Karinu, nope |
| 02:30.32 | annma | dblSHOT: hmm, does your mouse only do that in kde? |
| 02:30.43 | annma | and only in kicker? |
| 02:30.53 | dblSHOT | i only use kde for graphical...don't have anything else installed for X |
| 02:31.00 | dblSHOT | seems to only really do it in kicker |
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| 02:32.14 | annma | do you have icon zooming? |
| 02:32.22 | dblSHOT | no it's disabled |
| 02:32.51 | annma | hmm, seems strange, what distro? |
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| 02:34.14 | jc | Hello. I have a directory of JPG files, and I cannot get Konq to update the thumbnails for hell nor highwater. If I click on them, they're showing in the embedded view, so they're definitely viewable. I have permissions in the directory, own the files, etc. Any reason or way to get Konq to force a rebuild of thumbnails that I'm over looking? |
| 02:34.33 | dblSHOT | i'm using gentoo - kernel 2.6.5 - kde 3.2.2 |
| 02:34.39 | annma | did you check the mouse properties in KControl? |
| 02:35.06 | annma | jc: you mean the preview of jpeg does not work? |
| 02:35.23 | dblSHOT | yea, i'll check em again though |
| 02:35.31 | jc | annma, yes. I've had other directories with files from the same camera that preview properly. But this directory is just being... resistant. |
| 02:35.46 | annma | ah, it's just in 1 dir??? |
| 02:36.14 | annma | looks definitively like a problem from your files then |
| 02:36.19 | jc | Yes. Although I've created another directory and copied the files over (using the shell), and it's not updating in the new one either. So I guess you could say it's two directories. |
| 02:36.37 | annma | lol |
| 02:36.46 | dblSHOT | annma, mouse properties are just fine from what I can see...no real settings in there |
| 02:36.47 | annma | go into one of these dir |
| 02:37.12 | jc | k |
| 02:37.14 | annma | jc: see in the View menu -> Preview |
| 02:37.18 | annma | what is checked here? |
| 02:37.38 | annma | dblSHOT: nothing like Automatically select icons? |
| 02:38.10 | jc | annma, everything except preview sound files is selected. |
| 02:38.19 | annma | everything? |
| 02:38.22 | annma | images? |
| 02:38.33 | jc | If I hover the house over a file, it reports the aperature, ownership, etc, but does not preview the image there, either. |
| 02:38.52 | dblSHOT | annma, nope, that's all greyed out |
| 02:39.16 | annma | jc: then it's your files that are messed |
| 02:39.34 | annma | dblSHOT: single click or double click? |
| 02:39.41 | dblSHOT | double click |
| 02:39.45 | jc | OK, I'll accept that explanation. Except for why are they displayable in 3 browers, the embedded viewer, and KViewer? |
| 02:40.06 | annma | jc: why are other jpeg previewed? |
| 02:40.23 | annma | dblSHOT: maybe try single click :> |
| 02:40.25 | jc | Dunno. They came off the same camera. |
| 02:40.36 | annma | you have to investigate here then |
| 02:40.53 | annma | it cannot be konq as it previews other files ok |
| 02:41.15 | annma | konq is not segregating your pics because it does not like them :/ |
| 02:41.24 | jc | heh |
| 02:41.40 | annma | preview in one konq instance means preview everywhere |
| 02:41.50 | hackeron | grr, something happened and some of the default styles vanished from kcontro... they are still on the PC, I see ./share/apps/kstyle/themes/light-v2.themerc for example... but how do I readd them? |
| 02:41.51 | annma | except if files problems |
| 02:42.11 | annma | hackeron: something happened? what exactly??? |
| 02:42.16 | jc | I'm all for providing the images or whatever necessary info to someone who can diagnose or fix the problem. I won't discount the images being wankered, except for their openable in various graphics programs. |
| 02:42.38 | jc | So there's something curious going on. I just don't know enough about Konq to know where to look. |
| 02:42.41 | annma | jc: put 1 image online then please |
| 02:42.44 | jc | k |
| 02:42.45 | hackeron | annma: a bunch of default styles just disappeared, I booted, and noticed its not using the right style... went to kcontrol, and a bunch of styles are gone! |
| 02:43.00 | dblSHOT | annma > i had it as single click before and it did it also |
| 02:43.04 | dblSHOT | maybe it's a problem in my conf file |
| 02:43.15 | annma | dblSHOT: see with another user |
| 02:43.15 | dblSHOT | i'll check it out later =) just thought it might be some kinda bug u guys knew about |
| 02:43.33 | dblSHOT | i could try that, got too much things going on ATM to check it though right now |
| 02:43.37 | annma | jc: you also could try another user in fact |
| 02:44.01 | annma | dblSHOT: I did not see such problem here |
| 02:44.25 | dblSHOT | heh, i come up with everything good =) |
| 02:44.38 | dblSHOT | thanks alot, i've got to take off, i'll come back if i figure out what it was and let yah know =) |
| 02:44.38 | annma | ;) |
| 02:44.45 | annma | ok :) |
| 02:44.47 | jc | http://jcwren.com/DSCN0940.JPG.bz2 |
| 02:45.01 | hackeron | annma: any ideas? |
| 02:45.01 | annma | no bz2 |
| 02:45.08 | annma | hackeron: try another user |
| 02:45.18 | hackeron | annma: hmm, good idea, will do |
| 02:45.20 | jc | uh, why no bz2? |
| 02:45.38 | annma | if it's the same then your system is messed if it works with another user, only your config is messed |
| 02:45.46 | annma | because I am lazy |
| 02:45.49 | jc | :) |
| 02:46.00 | annma | having a jpeg will be quicker |
| 02:46.27 | dblSHOT | annma> lol...that's a nice way to think about the situation |
| 02:46.32 | dblSHOT | thanks again, cyah |
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| 02:46.40 | gilga | hello |
| 02:46.50 | gilga | how do you block popups with konqueror? |
| 02:48.05 | jc | OK, this was weird. When I unbzip2'd the image, a preview briefly appeared. When I closed Konq and reopened it, the preview was gone, and won't come back. |
| 02:49.01 | jc | Here's another freaky little bit. The only image that is previewing is the only one that's under 1MB. |
| 02:49.06 | annma | ah ah |
| 02:49.13 | annma | I have the preview in thumbnail |
| 02:49.30 | annma | your dog |
| 02:49.40 | jc | NOT MY DOG. My wife's dog. I hate that damn dog. |
| 02:49.42 | annma | ah, you get it |
| 02:49.45 | annma | lol |
| 02:49.48 | annma | jc! |
| 02:50.01 | annma | ok so it's just a setting |
| 02:50.49 | annma | in Konqueror Settings -> Previews & Metadata |
| 02:51.00 | annma | you can higher the limit for previews |
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| 02:53.05 | jc | k, I've bumped it up to 5MB. Restarted Konq, still no joy. |
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| 02:55.12 | annma | mine does not preview anything now that I have changed this setting! |
| 02:55.15 | annma | damend |
| 02:55.18 | annma | damned |
| 02:55.23 | jc | Curiously, when I hover the mouse over an image, it's also no longer report the aperature, etc. It's like it's forgot about some details... |
| 02:56.44 | jc | We broke KDE :( |
| 02:56.57 | annma | ok, I'm going to bed, maybe when I relog in the previews will be there |
| 02:57.05 | annma | I have cvs HEAD, and you? |
| 02:58.05 | annma | bye! |
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| 02:59.33 | jeffroman | when i do a startkde it cant find the xserver |
| 02:59.42 | jeffroman | i can start kdm with root and go in that way |
| 02:59.50 | jeffroman | but id like to just log in, and do a startkde |
| 02:59.53 | jeffroman | is that possible? |
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| 03:04.18 | liu7 | I was just wondering how to change the send key to simply enter in copete |
| 03:04.22 | liu7 | kopete |
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| 03:27.52 | siimo | hi what is a good place to get kde themes without needing to compile them? i tried kdelook.org but it required me to compile them and i was missing some libs |
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| 03:41.11 | siimo | anyone want to suggest any good gtk + gtk2 + kde themes (consistant) |
| 03:42.08 | Trisk[awaay] | siimo: use the qt style gtk-theme-engine, so you can apply qt styles to gtk apps |
| 03:42.29 | siimo | Trisk[awaay], like got an example? im a newbie ;) |
| 03:43.06 | Trisk[awaay] | well, you have to install the thing first, it's somewhere on www.kdelook.org |
| 03:44.35 | siimo | ok |
| 03:46.20 | Trisk[awaay] | presumably you set your gtk2 apps to use it, and then any qt/kde style you apply should work |
| 03:48.00 | siimo | gtk-engines-qtpixmap ? |
| 03:48.20 | Trisk[awaay] | no... |
| 03:48.59 | siimo | what is it called |
| 03:49.04 | liu7 | gtk-theme-switch ? |
| 03:49.13 | siimo | liu7, no thats the switcher |
| 03:49.29 | liu7 | I actually have this same problem |
| 03:49.30 | liu7 | hah |
| 03:49.44 | siimo | liu7, what finding consistantthemes? |
| 03:49.51 | liu7 | yeah |
| 03:49.59 | siimo | i dont like kermanik and thats the one i have now :( |
| 03:50.35 | TML | Hi. I'd like ' KStandardDirs::findResource("tmp",....)' on my machine to return $HOME/tmp instead of /tmp. Is there a way to do that at runtime? |
| 03:50.43 | Trisk[awaay] | siimo: plastik is decent... |
| 03:51.11 | liu7 | all my gtk apps look crappy |
| 03:51.20 | siimo | Trisk[awaay], there is no gtk2 though? |
| 03:51.26 | siimo | i use firefox gtk2 |
| 03:51.53 | siimo | brb |
| 03:52.05 | Trisk[awaay] | http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/gtk-qt |
| 03:52.13 | Trisk[awaay] | it moved |
| 03:52.39 | Trisk[awaay] | it's gtk2-only |
| 03:54.12 | kamel | is there any way to force everything that plays sounds to use the arts daemon? |
| 03:54.20 | kamel | i haven't yet figured it out if there is =\ |
| 03:54.54 | Trisk[awaay] | kamel: change commands to 'artsdsp' |
| 03:54.59 | Trisk[awaay] | prefix |
| 03:55.19 | siimo | Trisk[awaay], thanks mate |
| 03:55.52 | Trisk[awaay] | np |
| 03:56.30 | siimo | will this make all apps look bad if i logged into gnome? |
| 03:56.56 | Trisk[awaay] | no, it's meant to make them look the same as whatever setting your qt/kde apps are using |
| 03:57.05 | siimo | oh ok good |
| 03:57.41 | kamel | so for example artsdsp /usr/bin/myapplication? |
| 03:57.57 | Trisk[awaay] | kamel: yes, if it tries to use OSS |
| 03:58.08 | kamel | i see |
| 03:58.10 | kamel | tnx |
| 03:58.23 | kamel | i can |
| 03:58.35 | kamel | i can't figure out why it's so hard to integrate artsd =\ |
| 03:58.54 | kamel | you would think all they would have to do is make /dev/dsp be modified somehow |
| 03:59.12 | siimo | Trisk[awaay], it was gtk-engines-qtpixmap |
| 03:59.13 | Trisk[awaay] | /dev/dsp is handled by the OS's audio drivers |
| 03:59.19 | Trisk[awaay] | siimo: oh? |
| 03:59.30 | siimo | yea debian package :) |
| 03:59.50 | liu7 | ahh |
| 04:00.09 | siimo | description says GTK2 theming engine intended to make GTK applications have a similar look |
| 04:00.09 | siimo | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:00.41 | kamel | Trisk[awaay]: i understand that, but it seems logical to somehow make /dev/dsp point to artsd, and the actual sound card be at like /dev/dspreal or something stupid like that, heh |
| 04:01.06 | kamel | i'm no dev, so i guess that's why i dont understand |
| 04:01.07 | kamel | lol |
| 04:02.47 | siimo | Trisk[awaay], after its installed what do i need to do? |
| 04:06.06 | Trisk[awaay] | siimo: probably run gtk-theme-switch to select it |
| 04:08.50 | siimo | ok thanks |
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| 04:14.18 | kamel | thanks for the tip Trisk[awaay], works great :) |
| 04:14.49 | Trisk[awaay] | np |
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| 04:55.02 | hackeron | annma: tried, nope... stil loads of styles missing.. |
