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| 00:06.26 | mbob | hlelo |
| 00:06.29 | mbob | *hello |
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| 00:31.47 | stealth | printer config is asking me for a user/pass and i tried my root/pass but it didnt work? |
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| 00:35.15 | KarlosII | try it balnk |
| 00:35.18 | KarlosII | err blank |
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| 00:35.27 | KarlosII | or pass blank or user/pass |
| 00:35.53 | stealth | says "Unable to create temporary printer" |
| 00:36.52 | stealth | arg... what is the name of the printing prog .. ill just run it as root |
| 00:37.21 | mbob | run the printer program from the console like this: |
| 00:37.27 | mbob | su -c "printerprog" |
| 00:37.44 | mbob | or even: |
| 00:37.45 | Triskelios | err |
| 00:37.47 | mbob | su |
| 00:37.48 | Triskelios | kdesu <program> |
| 00:37.49 | mbob | printerprog |
| 00:38.00 | stealth | what? |
| 00:38.06 | stealth | kdesu is the prog name? |
| 00:38.17 | Triskelios | no, use kdesu instead of su |
| 00:38.17 | stealth | yea, cups is a piece of garbage |
| 00:38.26 | Triskelios | the program is probably kaddprinterwizard |
| 00:38.27 | stealth | what is the name of the printerprogram? |
| 00:38.33 | Triskelios | stealth: know anything better? |
| 00:39.11 | Triskelios | anyway, as KarlosII said, http://localhost:631/ |
| 00:39.54 | stealth | uhh yea,.. been there many times... when i print it stop an inch to a half a page before the end and my printer locks up and i hvae to power it off |
| 00:39.57 | stealth | and restart cups |
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| 00:40.27 | m-bob | is there anyway for a user to be logged in remotely using xdmcp, to have sounds played on their computer? |
| 00:40.48 | stealth | ok as root for kdeaddprinter it asks to select backend.. but there is nothing there? |
| 00:40.51 | Triskelios | m-bob: NAS or remote artsd |
| 00:41.05 | m-bob | how would i use remote artsd? |
| 00:41.16 | Triskelios | stealth: something's broken, I think |
| 00:41.29 | stealth | how can i fix it? |
| 00:41.36 | Triskelios | stealth: reinstall cups, the printer drivers, esp-gs (just to be safe) |
| 00:41.53 | stealth | what does that have to do with kde? |
| 00:42.24 | Triskelios | stealth: nothing, but sounds like something is wrong with cups (also goes for the printing problem you described) |
| 00:42.51 | stealth | arg |
| 00:43.19 | stealth | a cluster system is easier to manage than cups |
| 00:43.34 | Triskelios | donno, cups works perfectly here on multiple systems |
| 00:43.36 | m-bob | if there;s a problem with kdesu, wouldn't that cause him to not have access to the printers, therefore not have any listed? |
| 00:43.58 | Triskelios | m-bob: that's possible too.. |
| 00:44.03 | m-bob | hence teh root password not working |
| 00:44.16 | m-bob | stealth - try it from the console: |
| 00:44.23 | m-bob | su -c "printerprogramname" |
| 00:44.39 | m-bob | that way you'll bypass kdesu altogether |
| 00:45.29 | stealth | theres nothing in backend section |
| 00:46.08 | stealth | whats the file name of the kontrol center? |
| 00:46.16 | Triskelios | kcontrol |
| 00:47.07 | m-bob | im going for a sig - brb |
| 00:47.10 | m-bob | *cig |
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| 00:49.57 | Teakk | how can I 'remove' the KDE wallpaper, so that I can replace it w/a screensaver |
| 00:50.33 | Triskelios | Teakk: you can already run commands in the background.. |
| 00:51.11 | Teakk | i used the -root switch for the screensaver, and it wouldnt 'overwrite' my wallpaper |
| 00:51.49 | Triskelios | Teakk: remember to 'enable programs in desktop window' in the desktop options |
| 00:55.13 | Teakk | there we go, thank you |
| 00:55.53 | m-bob | back |
| 01:00.34 | Triskelios | m-bob: on the system running the remote X server, start artsd with -u option and specify a port... |
| 01:00.59 | m-bob | which port? |
| 01:01.03 | Triskelios | any |
| 01:01.45 | m-bob | when you say remote X server, to you mean the computer which is logged in to or from? |
| 01:02.16 | m-bob | *do you |
| 01:02.18 | Triskelios | um, from |
| 01:02.25 | m-bob | k ta |
| 01:02.34 | m-bob | is that part of the startkde script? |
| 01:02.51 | Triskelios | on the computer logged into, set ARTS_SERVER=<host>:<port> before starting kde |
| 01:03.14 | m-bob | can i do that in /etc/rc.d/rc.local? (slackware) |
| 01:03.28 | Triskelios | just insert it in startkde |
| 01:03.33 | m-bob | ok |
| 01:03.35 | m-bob | ah wait] |
| 01:05.02 | m-bob | i only want the sound played on the 'from' computer that is supposed to be played on the 'from' computer, for example, noises from events on that cpu |
| 01:05.41 | m-bob | is there anyway to do that? |
| 01:09.17 | m-bob | i gtg - friends is on |
| 01:09.21 | m-bob | i'l bbl |
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| 01:10.47 | Triskelios | the kde programs running should see ARTS_SERVER variable and connect to that host to play sounds |
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| 01:53.25 | tempo | everytime i am running Kaboodle or Noatun my machine gets stuck after it's done running a .avi or mpg file. any reason why linux would ever get stuck? |
| 01:54.30 | grepper | linux or X ? |
| 01:54.58 | tempo | grepper, everything just freezes |
| 01:55.30 | Triskelios | you can't switch to another VT with Ctrl+Alt+F<n>? |
| 01:55.48 | tempo | nope |
| 01:55.51 | tempo | nothing |
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| 01:56.41 | Triskelios | video card driver issue, maybe |
| 01:57.50 | tempo | Triskelios, prob. |
| 01:58.37 | MarcoPau | how do I show the vertical line at the left of the pager? |
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| 02:07.29 | grepper | mouseover |
| 02:07.49 | grepper | appearance->advanced options of panel config |
| 02:19.52 | MarcoPau | grepper: thank you grepper |
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| 02:26.19 | Dhraakellian | anyone here use apt-rpm and kde-redhat's repositories on FedoraCore1? |
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| 02:26.41 | grepper | MarcoPau: np |
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| 02:27.11 | gilgamesh | hello |
| 02:27.13 | gilgamesh | anyone know a good filemanager besides nautilus or konqueror? or even a mozilla plugin which allows it to act like konqueror? |
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| 02:27.54 | grepper | gilgamesh: krusader ? |
| 02:28.04 | gilgamesh | krusader? ok |
| 02:28.06 | grepper | just mentioning cause its kde |
| 02:28.12 | grepper | not because I endorse it :) |
| 02:28.29 | Renze | krusader is OK if you like the twin-pane thing |
| 02:28.59 | Dhraakellian | krusader is nifty |
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| 02:29.34 | Dhraakellian | krusader.sf.net |
| 02:30.39 | Dhraakellian | emelfm is another decent one, but it uses GTK 1.x and isn't under active development afaik |
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| 02:38.22 | MarcoPau | is it possible to set, for example, alt+home to open a certain webpage? |
| 02:39.05 | thiago | yes |
| 02:39.14 | thiago | use khotkeys |
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| 02:42.38 | jio | Hello when i compile kbear 3.0alpha1b i get this error: |
| 02:42.40 | jio | kbearcopyjob.cpp: In member function `void KBearCopyJob::copyNextFile()': |
| 02:42.40 | jio | kbearcopyjob.cpp:1086: no matching function for call to `KBearFileCopyJob:: |
| 02:42.40 | jio | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:42.40 | jio | make[4]: *** [kbearcopyjob.lo] Error 1 |
| 02:42.53 | jio | Can anyone help me? |
| 02:43.17 | Trisk[awaay] | try a different version of kbear, and contact the author/mailing list/whatever |
| 02:43.32 | thiago | jio: looks like a bug |
| 02:43.44 | Renze | expect lots of errors in alpha quality software |
| 02:44.05 | jio | it seems to be a common error though |
| 02:44.19 | Trisk[awaay] | common? |
| 02:44.48 | jio | I mean i can find from the net that many have got this type of error |
| 02:45.13 | Trisk[awaay] | in kbear? |
| 02:45.44 | jio | yes, there seems to be a patch in freebsd |
| 02:46.12 | jio | let me try to update this file alone from cvs |
| 02:46.57 | MarcoPau | thiago: good. Anyway, basically, there's no homepage for konqueror, right? |
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| 02:47.39 | thiago | MarcoPau: $HOME |
| 02:48.09 | MarcoPau | thiago: where do I set it? |
| 02:48.31 | Trisk[awaay] | MarcoPau: it's always set |
| 02:48.58 | thiago | you don't |
| 02:49.03 | thiago | it's your home directory |
| 02:49.28 | MarcoPau | exactly. But there's no home webpage, right? |
| 02:49.38 | thiago | no |
| 02:49.43 | MarcoPau | to be opened as I start konqueror |
| 02:49.54 | thiago | what I meant is, if you click the Home icon, you go to $HOME |
| 02:49.55 | Trisk[awaay] | it opens your home directory |
| 02:49.56 | Renze | MarcoPau: go to the page, then save profile |
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| 02:49.57 | jazzanova | hi |
| 02:50.00 | Trisk[awaay] | since it's a file manager |
| 02:50.00 | MarcoPau | I'll always see that konqueror page, right? |
| 02:50.05 | thiago | MarcoPau: it starts whatever the profile tells it to start |
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| 02:50.22 | jazzanova | I have just installed kde and I have a barcode like cursor. How do I fix it ? |
| 02:50.22 | thiago | you can change the WebBrowsing profile to open another page |
| 02:50.34 | jazzanova | i am running debian |
| 02:50.35 | Trisk[awaay] | MarcoPau: the about konq page can be disabled if you read it |
| 02:50.56 | Renze | again with the debian :) |
| 02:51.04 | jazzanova | :) |
| 02:51.56 | Renze | jazzanova: your problem isn't to do with KDE, it's to do with XFree86, or a configuration option thereof. |
| 02:52.08 | jazzanova | ah, ok |
| 02:52.11 | MarcoPau | Trisk[awaay]: ok, but then it will open just no page, not a homepage as all the web browsers, right? |
| 02:52.36 | thiago | MarcoPau: it can open a webpage if you configure it to do so |
| 02:52.45 | thiago | but Konqueror has no concept of "home page" |
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| 02:53.33 | Trisk[awaay] | "home URL" -> anything |
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| 02:58.25 | ruggy | how do i clear the "Most Used Applications" in the kicker menu |
| 02:59.26 | Renze | ruggy: kcontrol->security & privacy->privacy |
| 02:59.28 | MarcoPau | gotcha thiago |
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| 03:12.22 | FluffyArmada | yay there are people in this channel |
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| 03:12.43 | FluffyArmada | Can anyone tell me how to change the default XCursor like the one that KDM would use? |
| 03:13.27 | Trisk[awaay] | FluffyArmada: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/default/index.theme |
| 03:14.04 | FluffyArmada | :-D |
| 03:14.06 | FluffyArmada | yay |
| 03:14.07 | FluffyArmada | thank you |
| 03:14.10 | Trisk[awaay] | np |
| 03:14.52 | FluffyArmada | hey |
| 03:14.53 | FluffyArmada | um |
| 03:15.01 | FluffyArmada | if it sais this directory dont exist |
| 03:15.16 | FluffyArmada | can I just make it myself? and it work? |
| 03:15.29 | Trisk[awaay] | um, you're using XFree86? |
| 03:15.34 | FluffyArmada | wait sry |
| 03:15.38 | FluffyArmada | I for got /lib/ |
| 03:15.39 | FluffyArmada | lol |
| 03:15.41 | FluffyArmada | stupid me |
| 03:16.22 | Trisk[awaay] | heh |
| 03:17.02 | FluffyArmada | ok |
| 03:17.06 | FluffyArmada | now its |
| 03:17.10 | FluffyArmada | not finding stuff |
| 03:17.11 | FluffyArmada | :-( |
| 03:17.52 | FluffyArmada | I got as far as /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 |
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| 03:18.15 | Xirzon | I just upgraded to Kde 3.2, and now my pipe key no longer works |
| 03:18.17 | FluffyArmada | I have no icons directory |
| 03:18.31 | Trisk[awaay] | FluffyArmada: what's your XFree86 version? |
| 03:18.40 | FluffyArmada | how do I find that? |
| 03:18.42 | Trisk[awaay] | Xirzon: kcmshell keyboard_layout |
| 03:18.45 | FluffyArmada | Sry :-P |
| 03:18.47 | Xirzon | I can't type pipe, greater than or smaller than keys.. |
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| 03:19.09 | Trisk[awaay] | FluffyArmada: xdpyinfo | grep version |
| 03:19.20 | Xirzon | Trisk[awaay]: currently none is activated .. if I activate the German layout I lose even more keys |
| 03:19.43 | Trisk[awaay] | Xirzon: weird, check your X config |
| 03:19.48 | FluffyArmada | ok trisk |
| 03:19.54 | FluffyArmada | version #11.0 |
| 03:20.06 | Xirzon | Trisk[awaay]: already did .. nodeadkeys is set |
| 03:20.07 | FluffyArmada | XFree86 Version: 4.3.0.1 |
| 03:20.34 | Trisk[awaay] | Xirzon: very odd.. |
| 03:20.47 | Trisk[awaay] | FluffyArmada: is this a linux system? |
| 03:20.54 | FluffyArmada | Trisk: Gentoo Linux |
| 03:21.53 | Xirzon | the key does work in the non-graphical console |
| 03:21.57 | Trisk[awaay] | FluffyArmada: um, check if they moved the dir or something |
| 03:22.27 | Trisk[awaay] | Xirzon: well, try different layouts until you find one that works... |
| 03:22.44 | FluffyArmada | Trisk I will try to make that directory tree |
| 03:22.48 | FluffyArmada | and see if that just works :-P |
| 03:23.04 | Trisk[awaay] | FluffyArmada: well, the cursors normally reside there, too |
| 03:23.06 | FluffyArmada | I cant see it hurting anything |
| 03:23.11 | FluffyArmada | I know! |
| 03:23.15 | Trisk[awaay] | FluffyArmada: so it's rather odd to be missing |
| 03:23.28 | FluffyArmada | do you think I would be able to grep them? |
| 03:23.57 | FluffyArmada | no |
| 03:24.01 | FluffyArmada | that wouldnt work |
| 03:24.05 | FluffyArmada | hmm |
| 03:24.14 | FluffyArmada | I guess I will just look aroung |
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| 03:25.34 | Trisk[awaay] | FluffyArmada: #gentoo might help... but then again, they might not |
| 03:25.49 | FluffyArmada | lol |
| 03:25.58 | FluffyArmada | they have a habit of not helping :-P |
| 03:26.45 | Trisk[awaay] | only typical gentoo users |
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| 03:27.43 | FluffyArmada | lol |
| 03:27.47 | FluffyArmada | I am a gentoo user |
| 03:28.00 | FluffyArmada | but they have their oun weird little things to ramble about in there |
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| 03:29.15 | Trisk[awaay] | I see references to a "/usr/share/cursors" |
| 03:29.18 | jio | Hello, i have installed the latest kde 3.2.2 desktop, |
| 03:29.25 | Drantin | yup, that's where they go |
| 03:29.42 | jio | when i use ark, it always says: "i cant fork a decompressor" |
| 03:29.51 | jio | what may be the problem? |
| 03:30.27 | Trisk[awaay] | jio: is the proper program to handle the archive installed? |
| 03:30.47 | jio | yes ark for bz2 tarball |
| 03:30.54 | jio | kde 3.2.1 worked without problems |
| 03:30.59 | Trisk[awaay] | Drantin: rather, that's where gentoo randomly decided they should go... |
| 03:31.10 | Trisk[awaay] | jio: I mean, is bzip2 working? |
| 03:31.35 | jio | yes when i do it manually |
| 03:32.07 | FluffyArmada | SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK |
| 03:32.12 | FluffyArmada | Thankx Trisk |
| 03:32.15 | FluffyArmada | thats just where it is! |
| 03:32.35 | Trisk[awaay] | np |
| 03:32.42 | Trisk[awaay] | ah, the wikipedia folks |
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| 03:35.30 | jio | what should i do |
| 03:36.53 | FluffyArmada | BBL |
| 03:36.56 | Trisk[awaay] | jio: reinstall kdebase |
| 03:37.04 | Renze | jio: throw salt over your left shoulder :) |
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| 03:38.10 | jio | Trisk: isnt ark part of kdeutils |
| 03:38.32 | Renze | jio: yes, but the kio modules are in kdebase |
| 03:38.33 | Trisk[awaay] | jio: not sure what it uses for decompression |
| 03:38.38 | Trisk[awaay] | lemme check |
| 03:38.54 | krishna | sure looks like it, per apt-cache show |
| 03:41.23 | Trisk[awaay] | krishna: I know it's in kdebase, the important part is how it works with the files |
| 03:42.01 | krishna | right - ark is in kdeutils, but the kio slave is ... er ... somewhere else ? |
| 03:42.29 | jio | if you can tell me the path, i can check whether it exists in my system or not |
| 03:42.44 | jio | but kdeutils compiled without any problems |
| 03:42.52 | Trisk[awaay] | err |
| 03:42.58 | Trisk[awaay] | kdeutils |
| 03:43.10 | Trisk[awaay] | krishna: sorry, I meant kdeutils last time |
| 03:43.23 | Trisk[awaay] | jio: ok, it just uses KProcess to run tar, and expects GNU tar |
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| 03:44.02 | jio | eveything is there and able to do it via commands, but i dont know why ark doesnt work with them |
| 03:44.14 | jio | is it a bug |
| 03:44.33 | Trisk[awaay] | jio: I think the path to tar is configurable in the program, make sure it's set correctly |
| 03:45.37 | Trisk[awaay] | krishna: the kioslaves are in kdebase, but ark doesn't actually use them |
| 03:45.45 | krishna | gotcha |
| 03:45.50 | krishna | thanks for clarification on that |
| 03:45.58 | krishna | anyone here use kwallet and it works for them? |
| 03:46.06 | Renze | yes, and yes |
| 03:46.24 | krishna | ah ok |
| 03:46.24 | jio | Trisk: ark doesnt have any such configuration settings |
| 03:46.38 | The_Ball | krishna, 2xyes |
| 03:46.49 | krishna | I type a password into konqueror, it prompts me to save it into the wallet. I then check with kwalletmanager and it's been saved (e.g., under maps->http://my.yahoo.com/#fm) |
| 03:46.53 | jio | BTW trisk ark works with gz packages |
| 03:47.02 | krishna | but when I visit my.yahoo.com, it doesn't fill the fields in |
| 03:47.13 | Renze | krishna: the URL has to match exactly |
| 03:47.15 | krishna | it should fill them in automatically, right? 3.2.2, debian sarge |
| 03:47.29 | Trisk[awaay] | jio: does your tar accept the 'j' option? |
| 03:47.49 | krishna | and the #fm isn't supposed to be in the URL, right? (the #fm is to identify the form for which the passwords were saved, right)? |
| 03:48.05 | The_Ball | krishna, it should, but look at the url, is there any session data or such that changes each time you visit |
| 03:48.14 | Renze | no, the #fm is part of the URL when you saved the data |
| 03:48.25 | jio | Trisk: tar --help , there was no -j option |
| 03:48.31 | krishna | so it should or shouldn't be there in kwalletmanager? |
| 03:48.43 | Trisk[awaay] | jio: there you go, upgrade tar |
| 03:48.50 | jio | Trisk: I am sorry there is |
| 03:48.55 | Renze | krishna: kwallet saves the data under the URL you were at when you entered the data |
| 03:48.55 | krishna | for example, can you pull up kwalletmanager and show me an example of a URL that shows up in there for you, exactly what it looks like? |
| 03:49.05 | Trisk[awaay] | jio: oh, that's weird then |
| 03:49.09 | krishna | say my.yahoo.com? |
| 03:49.15 | krishna | I'd like to compare it against mine |
| 03:49.22 | Trisk[awaay] | jio: so tar xfj <bzip2'ed tar archive> works? |
| 03:49.28 | jio | and it extracts via the -j option as well |
| 03:49.37 | Renze | krishna: go to my.yahoo.com/#fm and see what happens |
| 03:50.22 | Trisk[awaay] | jio: ok, something is weird then |
| 03:50.32 | Trisk[awaay] | jio: do you have kdebugdialog? |
| 03:51.07 | jio | Trisk: it is not able to extract any tar archieves |
| 03:51.28 | jio | but .gz it can extract |
| 03:51.48 | jio | i have my tar in /bin |
| 03:52.13 | Trisk[awaay] | um, .tar.gz or just gzipped files? |
| 03:52.26 | jio | just gzipped files it can extract |
| 03:52.41 | Renze | missing kio_tar? |
| 03:53.01 | Trisk[awaay] | Renze: it tries to run 'tar' directly |
| 03:53.09 | Renze | ah |
| 03:54.03 | Trisk[awaay] | jio: ark has debug statements, but you need kdebugdialog to turn them on |
| 03:54.09 | jio | the tar viewing in konquere works |
| 03:54.51 | jio | are you running kde 3.2.2 |
| 03:56.51 | Trisk[awaay] | parts of kde cvs on one machine |
| 03:57.37 | krishna | yup, I tried visiting the URL directly in konqueror, no dice |
| 03:57.40 | jio | BTW Trisk, I am able to create tar archieves using ARK |
| 03:57.46 | krishna | it should just fill both fields in without asking, right? |
| 03:57.56 | krishna | or do I drag the wallet to the konqueror field, or something? |
| 03:58.15 | Renze | krishna: if the wallet is active, it should paste without any interaction |
| 03:58.40 | jio | everything seems to work except decompression of tar achievies |
| 03:58.41 | krishna | could I have disabled wallet interaction with konqueror unknowingly? |
| 03:58.57 | krishna | I mean the fill in part. It populates the wallet no problem :| |
| 03:59.22 | Trisk[awaay] | jio: could you please run kdebugdialog? |
| 04:01.25 | Fedora_Noid | did anybody here sucessfully upgraded kde to 3.2.2???? |
| 04:01.34 | Fedora_Noid | from 3.1 |
| 04:01.52 | Renze | Fedora_Noid: not everyone here uses Fedora. :) |
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| 04:02.32 | Fedora_Noid | Renze: That I bet! |
| 04:03.01 | Fedora_Noid | so the problem is my distro now? |
| 04:03.40 | Renze | Fedora_Noid: KDE is only released as source. Packages are made either by the distro or by other people. |
| 04:03.43 | krishna | possibly. I upgraded from 3.1.5->3.2.2 no problem on debian sarge |
| 04:03.57 | krishna | so yeah, I'll put odds on it being a fedora problem :-) |
| 04:04.25 | Fedora_Noid | what a shame KDE is awesome |
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| 04:04.46 | Fedora_Noid | Gnome is nothing compared to it |
| 04:04.48 | krishna | and 3.2.2 is more awesomer :-) |
| 04:04.55 | Fedora_Noid | hell yeah |
| 04:05.08 | krishna | gnome has some great apps that work on it |
| 04:05.25 | Fedora_Noid | yeah but the desktop itself is not that great |
| 04:06.06 | krishna | dude, I've been arguing with my father daily for the last 4 months. I've had the 'taking a hard stance' beaten out of me :-) |
| 04:06.31 | krishna | me *personally* though, I like kde :-) |
| 04:06.41 | krishna | say, how do I bold or emphasize or whatever in ircII? |
| 04:06.46 | krishna | control-b or something? |
| 04:07.12 | Renze | haven't used ircII in years |
| 04:07.58 | Trisk[awaay] | krishna: try /bind ^o backward_character and use ^O... ^b is used for something already |
| 04:14.03 | krishna | thanks |
| 04:14.37 | krishna | ok so now control o and control b are backward-character |
| 04:14.44 | krishna | isn't boldface something ese though? |
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| 04:15.36 | Trisk[awaay] | /bind ^b self_insert |
| 04:15.38 | Trisk[awaay] | |
| 04:15.43 | Trisk[awaay] | forgot that =x |
| 04:15.55 | krishna | foo bold baz |
| 04:16.08 | krishna | hey, thanks |
| 04:16.25 | Trisk[awaay] | np |
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| 04:18.31 | krishna | foo bar baz |
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| 04:22.08 | diego | hi, i just could login as root, any suggestions? |
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| 04:22.45 | krishna | Diego! How is your sister? |
| 04:23.02 | krishna | (BatManuel, from 'The Tick') |
| 04:24.11 | MarcoPau | diego: what you mean? |
| 04:25.24 | diego | i just could start an x session as root, when i try as my normal user, the system goes back to kdm |
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| 04:31.54 | diego | hi |
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| 04:58.20 | benny_benassi | hello |
| 04:58.30 | MarcoPau | kdecore (KIconLoader): WARNING: Icon directory /usr/share/icons/hicolor/ group 48x48/stock/text not valid. |
| 04:58.45 | MarcoPau | I get a whole bunch of these errors. What should I do? |
| 04:59.00 | benny_benassi | change ur icon set |
| 05:00.12 | benny_benassi | could someone please help me apply the 2 patches from kdes website for kde 3.2.2? i tried applying them but it gives me an error message |
| 05:01.02 | benny_benassi | it is really annoying cause ark wont decompress tar files |
| 05:02.30 | MarcoPau | benny_benassi: I actually just changed it |
| 05:05.05 | benny_benassi | marcopau, did it work using patch? |
| 05:05.24 | MarcoPau | benny_benassi: never used any patch |
| 05:05.26 | benny_benassi | when i run patch on mine, it asks me for which file i want to patch |
| 05:05.30 | benny_benassi | ohhhhh |
| 05:05.34 | benny_benassi | u mean the icons?? |
| 05:05.37 | benny_benassi | sorry my bad |
| 05:05.50 | benny_benassi | well does it do that with all icon sets? |
| 05:11.38 | MarcoPau | benny_benassi: with the two I have, yes |
| 05:13.04 | MarcoPau | BRB |
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| 05:27.48 | robinp | what is the kde dev channel ? |
| 05:31.18 | MarcoPau | not a clue |
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| 05:47.45 | krishna | hey marcopau |
| 05:48.14 | krishna | 'http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2004/debian-qt-kde-200403/msg00735.html' |
| 05:49.53 | krishna | 'http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=241283' |
| 05:51.16 | robinp | what is the difference between a "kHTMLpart" and a "Konqueror Navigation Panel Plugin"? I want to build a plugin that automatically updates Konqueror's Bookmarks menu... |
| 05:51.55 | krishna | dunno what a navigation panel plugin is, but a khtmlpart is I believe an embeddable html display , er, widget |
| 05:52.22 | krishna | like kwrite has a kde text edit 'part', konqueror has a khtml 'part' |
| 05:52.46 | krishna | but konqueror also has a file-browsy part, or when you view a pdf file, uses the kghostview (?) part |
| 05:52.59 | robinp | ok - ill try a navigation panel plugin and see where it takes me |
| 05:53.32 | krishna | well, you can't go too far off course with something called a 'navigation' plugin :-) |
| 05:54.06 | krishna | PRACTICAL HOMEMAKER TIP -- Always keep an open box of baking soda in your refrigerator. |
| 05:54.07 | robinp | im intending to build a zeroconf plugin for Konqueror |
| 05:54.21 | krishna | sounds scary |
| 05:54.32 | krishna | you mean that zero footprint install thing? |
| 05:54.52 | robinp | no - automatic server discovery |
| 05:54.57 | krishna | I'd have to recommend you consult the usability guidelines first and maybe exchange a few emails |
| 05:54.59 | robinp | www.zeroconf.org |
| 05:55.13 | krishna | with some of the developers |
| 05:55.25 | krishna | you subscribe to any of the kde developer mailing lists? |
| 05:55.41 | robinp | no - but im guessing i should |
| 05:56.00 | robinp | im subscribed to just about everything else :P |
| 05:56.03 | krishna | probably at least lurk on them for a while first, then maybe you can ask some targeted questions about the architecture, etc. |
| 05:56.13 | krishna | then grovel through the archives first |
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| 06:13.59 | ilyak | As os kde3.2 / QT 3.3.1 ALL qt apps lost their appicons |
| 06:14.04 | ilyak | whom should i kill for that? |
| 06:27.37 | ilyak | Why wallet insists on password protection? |
| 06:27.48 | ilyak | If i'm protected by login password anyway? :( |
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| 07:14.58 | asian | i have old program i wrote on kde2 ... my os is now running with both kde2 and kde3 support, how can i remake my projects so that they are only running on kde3 libs ? |
| 07:16.09 | robinp | asian: #kde-devel |
| 07:16.21 | asian | k - ;) |
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| 07:19.12 | robinp | asian: im guessing everyone else is asleep - im in Australia so i guess similar timezones |
| 07:19.31 | marcusU | I'm in the US, and I'm awake. I just don't have much to say. (Be thankful.) |
| 07:19.31 | asian | what time is it in aus ? |
| 07:19.56 | marcusU | It's 2:17 am in Houston, TX. |
| 07:20.26 | robinp | its 4:45 pm (Monday) |
| 07:20.47 | marcusU | Where are you, robinp? West Coast USA? Or SA? |
| 07:21.19 | robinp | SA, as in South Australia <- where i am |
| 07:21.23 | robinp | in Adelaide |
| 07:21.44 | marcusU | Oh. |
| 07:22.15 | robinp | did you mean SA as in South Australia - or as in South Africa |
| 07:22.22 | asian | hehe |
| 07:22.48 | marcusU | Actually, I was thinking South America |
| 07:22.51 | robinp | where abouts are you asian; what time is it there ? |
| 07:23.03 | robinp | marcusU: lol |
| 07:23.12 | marcusU | Oh, oops. robinp, I misread your time. I thought you said *am*. |
| 07:24.24 | asian | /whois asian = (~asian@eAc1Aef209.osk.mesh.ad.jp) osk = Osaka |
| 07:24.37 | asian | /country jp = Japan |
| 07:25.05 | asian | time here is 4:25pm monday |
| 07:25.16 | robinp | cool |
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| 07:42.48 | bytewalker | hullo?M |
| 07:44.57 | asian | bytewalker, sounds like a bug -- but i don't know sorry |
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| 08:34.20 | ChrisH | Is there a way to maximize a window as much as possible (regarding the presence of other windows)? I can maximize but then it's about full screen. |
| 08:34.33 | ChrisH | Gnome has such a setting... I was wondering if KDE lacks it. |
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| 08:54.47 | jio | Hello, I created a binary package for kdebase |
| 08:55.06 | jio | and when i installed in another system, it says it is missing libGLcore.so.1 |
| 08:55.13 | jio | what is the reason ? |
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| 09:03.53 | tnf | jio: sounds none-kde related, I think it has something to do with your graphiccard driver.. Did you upgrade your kernel or something? use google! |
| 09:04.31 | jio | tnf: I compiled kde with nvidia drivers, does that mean the created binary package |
| 09:04.47 | jio | requires nvidia driver to get it installed elsewhere |
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| 09:12.25 | tnf | X reqiures the nvidia-drivers, try to uninstall (importent to uninstall) and install again |
| 09:12.33 | tnf | important* |
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| 09:31.26 | hackeron | WOHAY, found a program that will generate thumbnails for konqueror recursively, imgseek |
| 09:31.43 | hackeron | generated 500 so far :), still working |
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| 09:42.10 | tnf | hackeron: konqueror can generate thumbnails it self, can't it? |
| 09:42.22 | hackeron | tnf: not recursively |
| 09:42.48 | tnf | ah ok :-) |
| 09:43.29 | hackeron | tnf: Ive now generated over 5000 thumbnails in 300 folders automatically |
| 09:43.50 | hackeron | tnf: 82% done so far :) |
| 09:44.58 | hackeron | tnf: if you can get konqueror to do that, be my guest |
| 09:47.55 | tnf | I use digikam for all my pictures :-) (not that many) |
| 09:48.49 | hackeron | tnf: I tried it, just doesn't suite my needs |
| 09:49.33 | tnf | ok.. nice that you found one that did then. |
| 09:50.04 | hackeron | tnf: yeah, I've very pleased, I tried literally over a hundred image viewers |
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| 09:50.39 | xemil | hi |
| 09:51.20 | xemil | when I try to view a local file in konqueror it says: there appears to be a configuration error. You have associated Konqueror with text/html, but it can't handle this file type. ehh wtf? |
| 09:51.22 | xemil | :) |
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| 09:52.18 | xemil | I don't have the latest version, I'm running Konqueror 3.1-8d, but being able to read text/html seems to be a feature all versions of Konqueror should support... |
| 09:52.38 | grepper | xemil: go to file associations for text/html and make sure it is set to open in embedded viewer and HHTML is the first service listed |
| 09:53.53 | xemil | do you mean KHTML is the first service? |
| 09:54.19 | grepper | yes |
| 09:54.26 | grepper | sorry, its early :) |
| 09:54.30 | xemil | thanks a lot. now it works :) |
| 09:54.37 | grepper | typing skills not up to speed yet |
| 09:54.40 | grepper | ok, np |
| 09:54.46 | xemil | hehe |
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| 10:11.00 | tnf | hrmf |
| 10:11.04 | tango_ | wow |
| 10:11.10 | tango_ | rotfl |
| 10:11.23 | tango_ | now for the question of the century |
| 10:11.31 | tango_ | who was helping me with the KsCD/CDDB issue? |
| 10:11.34 | tango_ | I think I found the problem |
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| 10:12.44 | tango_ | it seems that when the CD-id match is not exact, KsCD does not use the closest match in the cached database, but it will use it if retrieved remotely |
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| 10:55.49 | asian | can anyone here give me some pointers for updating a kde2/qt2 project to use sololy qt3 and kde3 libs ? |
| 10:56.51 | Amog | Hey all... I have a problem... I have disassociated urls from konqueror when I type a url in the run command box. Anyone know how to fix this? |
| 10:58.32 | grepper | Amog: the file association for text/html |
| 10:58.52 | Amog | what should it be? |
| 10:59.05 | Amog | oh... don't worry... got it. Thanks... |
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| 11:06.26 | amog | OK... that didn't work as well as I thought... |
| 11:07.32 | amog | I have put konqueror in as the association for text/html, but if I double-click on html files it says there's a config error, and running a URL from run seems to connect, but gives the URL as file:/var/tmp/kdecache-barry/krun/21871.0. |
| 11:10.36 | Triskelios | amog: make sure the konqueror command has %U or %u as an argument, which means to let it handle URLs directly |
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| 11:11.52 | jio | Hello, I compiled and created binary package for kdebase (with nvidia drivers in my system) |
| 11:12.13 | jio | and then installed the binary package in another system, but it does not run showing an error |
| 11:12.21 | amog | Why, when selecting konqueror for the list of possible apps does it use "kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing" rather than the konqueror command? |
| 11:12.23 | jio | it cannot find library libGLcore.so.1 |
| 11:12.34 | jio | can anyone help me? |
| 11:13.47 | amog | It's all working nicely now. :) |
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| 11:14.46 | Triskelios | jio: just temporarily remove the nvidia stuff |
| 11:15.36 | jio | Triskelios: when i remove it, kdebase complains that it cannot find that file and does not run |
| 11:16.59 | Triskelios | jio: you don't need to run it to make packages do you? |
| 11:17.06 | jio | Triskelios: I want to know whether compiling kdebase or any GL based apps with nvidia, then its created binary package whenever installed elsewhere requires nvidia libraraies in order to run |
| 11:17.44 | jio | ? |
| 11:17.51 | Triskelios | jio: well, it should require libGL, but your special libGL seems to need more libs |
| 11:18.38 | Triskelios | so maybe the best solution would be to temporarily remove it, or even replace it with a normal one |
| 11:18.43 | Triskelios | then make the package |
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| 11:19.00 | Triskelios | you probably don't have to recompile anyway |
| 11:19.19 | jio | Triskelios: But I said when i remove libglcore, for my binary package, ( not for compiling), kdebase does not run |
| 11:20.15 | Triskelios | jio: that's ok, it'll run after you reinstall it, and it should work on a system with normal GL stuff |
| 11:20.39 | jio | Triskelios: you mean recompiling |
| 11:20.51 | Triskelios | eh, no |
| 11:20.56 | Triskelios | ... |
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| 11:21.37 | jio | Triskelios: I tried what you said, I installed kdebase in a non-nvidia(native driver) environment |
| 11:21.52 | jio | but the binary package does not work |
| 11:21.58 | Triskelios | really? |
| 11:22.05 | jio | yes |
| 11:22.16 | jio | i started it from terminal |
| 11:22.21 | jio | using startx |
| 11:22.43 | jio | It gives me all sorts of complains that libGLcore.so.1 is not present |
| 11:22.56 | jio | and then when i install nvidia drivers, it works in a normal way |
| 11:23.10 | jio | this is true |
| 11:28.21 | jio | May be this is because I compiled my xorg in a similar fashion as well ? |
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| 11:46.44 | jio | Triskelios: It seems kdebase is utilizing libGLcore files when available, this may be the cause of the problem? |
| 11:46.51 | jio | for compiling |
| 11:46.59 | cyberspy | Morning all |
| 11:47.06 | cyberspy | I have a dumb question, but I need to ask |
| 11:47.56 | cyberspy | I installed fedora core 1, with kde and all options, for the life of me, I can't find Kontact to look at it, I see every other app, but to decide between Evolution and Kontact.. where do I find it? |
| 11:48.16 | Triskelios | jio: maybe an issue with how they were linked when compiled, then. then you do have a problem there... |
| 11:48.38 | Triskelios | cyberspy: is kdepim installed? |
| 11:49.00 | jio | Triskelios: "How they were linked" ? |
| 11:49.13 | cyberspy | I installed everything off the fedora DVD ISO, so if it comes with it, then yes |
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| 11:51.07 | jio | Triskelios: xorg works fine in the test, despite being compiled with nvidia |
| 11:51.29 | jio | which means kdebase utilizes nvidia libraries |
| 11:51.41 | antonrojo | anyone here use knoda with mySQL? somehow my installation only recognizes postgresql as a connection option |
| 11:52.43 | Triskelios | jio: yeah, the binaries now require them because they were linked to them during the build |
| 11:53.31 | jio | Triskelios: But officially or through ./configure kdebase does not require nvidia for its compilation isnt it |
| 11:53.43 | jio | then why does it utilizes it when they are available |
| 11:54.46 | jio | -> To make it difficult for package maintainers :-( |
| 11:54.55 | Triskelios | because it *does* require GL, and the GL library on your system needed the nvidia stuff |
| 11:55.01 | Triskelios | blame nividia |
| 11:55.06 | Triskelios | they kinda screwed it |
| 11:56.56 | jio | libGL is different from libGLcore isnt it |
| 11:57.13 | jio | kdebase should look for libGL only and not for libGLcore |
| 11:57.15 | jio | ? |
| 11:57.42 | Triskelios | jio: ldd /usr/lib/libGL.so |
| 11:57.47 | Triskelios | er |
| 11:57.52 | Triskelios | ldd /usr/lib/libGL.so | grep GLcore |
| 11:58.15 | jio | yes i got it |
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| 11:59.42 | jio | ok thanks Triskelios |
| 11:59.44 | jio | bye |
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| 12:09.46 | MrDarkUser | I just need multilingual stuff to work... and i can't even see the alternate text representations in a .desktop file |
| 12:10.42 | PhilRod | MrDarkUser: did you install kde-i18n-<langcode>? |
| 12:12.16 | PhilRod | (or whatever the appropriate package for your distro is) |
| 12:12.32 | MrDarkUser | just having fonts isn't enough? |
| 12:12.39 | MrDarkUser | or are those the fonts? |
| 12:13.45 | PhilRod | um, wait, what are you trying to achieve? running KDE in another language, or just viewing non-English characters? |
| 12:13.59 | MrDarkUser | PhilRod: thanks, I've just been building all of my applications with unicode support and everything that I can think of... I don't care about the menu's being in a different language, |
| 12:14.19 | MrDarkUser | view non english characters |
| 12:14.39 | PhilRod | well, in theory, all KDE apps come with Unicode out of the box |
| 12:14.54 | PhilRod | (although konsole takes some fiddling) |
| 12:14.58 | PhilRod | IIR |
| 12:14.59 | PhilRod | IIRC* |
| 12:15.09 | MrDarkUser | ? IIRC? |
| 12:15.18 | PhilRod | 'If I remember correctly' |
| 12:15.20 | MrDarkUser | I need konsole and kate to show |
| 12:15.24 | MrDarkUser | ah |
| 12:15.47 | MrDarkUser | the correct characters |
| 12:16.38 | PhilRod | ok, let's try kate first |
| 12:16.38 | MrDarkUser | There are garbage characters in file:/usr/kde/3.2/share/desktop-directories/kde-games-kidsgames.directory |
| 12:17.09 | MrDarkUser | k |
| 12:17.56 | PhilRod | ok, I have the same in that file. First thing to try is to 'set encoding' (if there's an option) |
| 12:18.19 | PhilRod | go to view-set encoding-UTF8 |
| 12:18.22 | MrDarkUser | I care most about chinese and russian, then japanese, then korean |
| 12:18.32 | PhilRod | view->set encoding->UTF8 |
| 12:18.50 | MrDarkUser | well then, there it is! |
| 12:19.02 | MrDarkUser | why didn't auto catch that? |
| 12:19.18 | PhilRod | the encoding detection seems a bit b0rked, AFAICT |
| 12:19.58 | robinp | i keep getting the error "cannot allocate an object of type 'FooFactory' because the following functions are abstract 'virtual QObject* KLibFactory::createobject(QObject*, const char*, const char*, const QStringList&) |
| 12:20.01 | MrDarkUser | so I'll check for bugs next... and join them |
| 12:20.16 | robinp | how do i fix that? the createObject is protected? |
| 12:20.41 | PhilRod | robinp: (if no one here knows, try #kde-devel) |
| 12:21.10 | robinp | PhilRod: thanks - im trying simultaneously |
| 12:21.37 | robinp | without much luck |
| 12:27.10 | MrDarkUser | PhilRod: wow, i set konsole to have unicode font, and it gave an error message, and I was sad, but I was able to copy the error message so I can search for it without typing an exact copy of the message! |
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| 12:30.12 | PhilRod | MrDarkUser: you might want to see if utf8.sh exists in your KDEDIR. If not, grab it from http://webcvs.kde.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/kdebase/konsole/tests/utf8.sh |
| 12:30.15 | MrDarkUser | so, now I just gotta figure how to make kate use utf8 by default?... that won't work with ascii though... |
| 12:30.27 | PhilRod | (click the 'download' link) |
| 12:30.46 | PhilRod | with that script you can "./utf8.sh on" to switch on UTF8 support |
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| 12:31.04 | PhilRod | MrDarkUser: isn't UTF8 designed to work with ASCII? I thought that was the point of it |
| 12:31.39 | MrDarkUser | I suppose it would be.. |
| 12:33.23 | MrDarkUser | so next time I restart konsole.. it should be with utf8 capabilities.. |
| 12:34.17 | PhilRod | I'm not usre if it saves the setting - you might need to put it in .profile or whichever one it is that konsole reads |
| 12:35.15 | cyberspy | Ok, another dumb question, I am chaning my icons, and themes (and getting confused, what's the difference between kde theme and window decorations, if I change one, they both change) but, what is the difference between "home" and "start here" (Fedora desktop icons) |
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| 12:35.53 | PhilRod | MrDarkUser: oh, you could try 'LANG=en.UTF-8 kate somefile' to see if kate goes straight to utf8. If that works, you could set LANG in a startup file (.profile, I guess) |
| 12:36.28 | MrDarkUser | cyberspy: last time I used redhat, it had screwed up version of everything |
| 12:36.43 | MrDarkUser | cyberspy: core1 or core2? |
| 12:36.49 | cyberspy | core 1 |
| 12:37.27 | MrDarkUser | thier names? They're just pictures.. |
| 12:38.07 | PhilRod | cyberspy: I *think* it's something like: themes affect the whole of the KDE look (icons, widget style, window decoration....), whereas with 'window decorations' you can change that one element separately |
| 12:38.25 | cyberspy | ah, ok Phil, thanks |
| 12:38.26 | PhilRod | and I seem to remember themes being deprecated, but I oculd be wrong |
| 12:38.46 | cyberspy | and for the other question.. |
| 12:39.00 | cyberspy | Home bring me to file:/home/cyberspy |
| 12:39.03 | cyberspy | and the other two.. |
| 12:39.05 | cyberspy | too |
| 12:39.18 | cyberspy | argh.. to* |
| 12:39.42 | cyberspy | start-here:/ which has.. |
| 12:40.12 | cyberspy | Applications icon.. Preferences icon.. and System Settings icon |
| 12:40.31 | MrDarkUser | PhilRod: Thanks so much! |
| 12:40.50 | cyberspy | ah, one is like "My Computer" on a win machine |
| 12:40.53 | cyberspy | the other is just my home dir |
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| 12:41.33 | PhilRod | MrDarkUser: np. BTW, does that LANG= thing work for you? It doesn't seem to work here |
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