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00:03.30 | aBs0lut30 | is it a known bug to have kio windows get stuck on top of the screen?? |
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00:30.28 | SheElf | hi |
00:31.52 | Ubel | hello |
00:32.02 | Dhraakellian | got a question? |
00:32.21 | aBs0lut30 | is it a known bug to have kio windows get stuck on top of the screen?? |
00:32.54 | SheElf | how to make kde uses xcursur entirely |
00:35.41 | SheElf | any answer |
00:37.10 | Dhraakellian | not from me. :( |
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01:14.01 | _Scrop | Can I have it so that files with long names have shorter names in KDE? thisisafile becomes thisisa.. for example. This is causing a mess on my desktop and in some folders. |
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01:16.42 | matr1x | good question |
01:17.01 | matr1x | i dont think its been done yet |
01:17.14 | matr1x | its really the major place where kde needs work |
01:17.29 | matr1x | on the desktop screen |
01:17.29 | tpr | it only wraps it here.. |
01:17.48 | tpr | I think someone should fill a wish at bugs.kde.org .. |
01:18.21 | matr1x | i wish the kde desktop had a tandy deskmate style feature-set |
01:18.48 | tpr | what do you mean? |
01:18.49 | matr1x | but that will never happen unless i do it myself |
01:19.21 | matr1x | well, tandy deskmate was an old desktop shell for DOS that ran on most early tandys |
01:20.03 | matr1x | the closest thing to it today would be how kde has karamba |
01:20.10 | matr1x | but even karamba isnt anything close |
01:20.34 | matr1x | http://www.sunrizen.com/resumes/deskmate/deskmate.htm' |
01:20.47 | matr1x | err without the final ' |
01:20.50 | matr1x | thats a bunch of tandy screenshots |
01:21.06 | matr1x | it was very well designed for a home desktop |
01:21.30 | tpr | I don't understand.. |
01:21.50 | matr1x | there are certain things that it could do that i havent seen since |
01:22.03 | matr1x | the icons seemed to snap into a grid |
01:22.07 | matr1x | which is probably how it was done |
01:22.16 | matr1x | i liked OS/2 as well |
01:22.26 | Dhraakellian | three words: right click drag |
01:22.54 | matr1x | well thats not really THAT important is it |
01:23.16 | Dhraakellian | right-click drag was an AWESOME feature |
01:23.21 | matr1x | why so |
01:23.39 | Dhraakellian | it left (no pun intended) hte left button free for selection |
01:24.16 | Dhraakellian | click on an icon, drag over all the icons you want selected... (could be in any shape, not necessarily a rectangle) |
01:24.16 | matr1x | it seems free to me now |
01:24.52 | matr1x | i also liked windows 3.1's program manager |
01:25.10 | Dhraakellian | no ctrl+click, ctrl+click, ctrl+click, etc needed |
01:26.52 | matr1x | i suppose to take it to the step id like, youd be able to divide the desktop background into zones, and those zones could blend in with the background and hold icons, or a simple file manager |
01:27.13 | matr1x | the biggest problem right now is there seems to be no effort to making the desktop root shell useful |
01:27.35 | matr1x | icon alignment is horrible in 3.14 (i havent tried 3.2 to be honest) |
01:28.20 | matr1x | in fact one idiot gnome user (he isnt an idiot because he uses gnome, he's an idiot for other reasons) uses that an example of why he hates kde |
01:28.50 | tpr | hmm, how it's horrible? |
01:28.53 | matr1x | anyways ive vented my thoughts :) |
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01:30.52 | tpr | well, nites now. |
01:30.52 | pvalley | what is the easiest way to update kde |
01:30.52 | matr1x | well, he claims its because the icon names dont cut off, and me in particular i dislike how the icons are sorted. there doesnt appear to be any sort of auto-align, and its very minimalistic in approach |
01:31.21 | tpr | hmm, in 3.2 there's auto aligment, I think.. |
01:31.32 | matr1x | the use of the root menu in kde is very poor |
01:31.47 | matr1x | tpr perhaps, but the root menu is vastly underused. thats why karamba exists |
01:31.49 | tpr | but anyways I'm not using desktop icons at all.. |
01:32.09 | matr1x | why would you, its poorly implemented :) |
01:32.22 | matr1x | its like owning a pda that has only 5 minutes of charge and saying "i dont use my pda much" |
01:32.22 | Dhraakellian | floppy, cdrom, zipdisk |
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01:32.27 | Dhraakellian | for easy mounting |
01:32.37 | Dhraakellian | and trash, so it makes an even square |
01:32.48 | tpr | well, I have always windows on top of the desktop so I don't see it at all usually. |
01:33.02 | matr1x | well thats where the hide button comes in |
01:33.10 | matr1x | to easily access your desktop |
01:33.16 | matr1x | your root desktop that is |
01:33.34 | Dhraakellian | all my application launching stuff is done from kicker |
01:33.44 | Dhraakellian | much smaller and more space efficient that way |
01:33.44 | tpr | well, I don't know why should I use desktop icons as I can launch the apps from kicker or from console. |
01:33.57 | matr1x | well you dont have to |
01:34.05 | tpr | I've almost everything I need in kicker :) |
01:34.08 | matr1x | but some peoples thought processes work differently |
01:34.13 | Dhraakellian | or application launcher in kicker |
01:35.38 | matr1x | anyways, like i said i dont expect anything to be done about it |
01:35.42 | matr1x | its just a wish of mine |
01:35.47 | matr1x | since we were talking about wishes |
01:36.12 | Dhraakellian | give me right click drag in KDE, and I will be a very happy person |
01:37.10 | Dhraakellian | and the OS/2 widget style |
01:37.26 | matr1x | i wonder why kde has an online dictionary, but doesnt make use of any offline dictionaries |
01:42.09 | tpr | matr1x, well, make a wish at bugs.kde.org and maybe it'll get implemented.. |
01:42.14 | tpr | matr1x, or implement it yourself .) |
01:42.25 | tpr | Dhraakellian, have you made a wish? |
01:43.09 | Dhraakellian | officially? no |
01:44.08 | matr1x | well i dont care if theres no offline dictionary, i just find it peculiar |
01:44.09 | tpr | well, maybe you should? |
01:44.24 | tpr | matr1x, what do you mean with those dictionaries? |
01:44.28 | matr1x | if they wanted us to make wishes thered be a wish.kde.org |
01:44.35 | matr1x | kdict is an online dictionary for kde |
01:44.41 | matr1x | but kde doesnt have an offline dictionary |
01:44.49 | matr1x | it comes with kdict though |
01:44.55 | matr1x | i just find that strange |
01:45.06 | tpr | ah, kdict is just a frontend for some online dictionaries.. |
01:45.09 | grepper | matr1x: its just a front end, install dictd |
01:45.09 | matr1x | yah |
01:45.14 | grepper | and dictionaries |
01:45.27 | grepper | why reinvent the wheel ? |
01:45.28 | tpr | matr1x, you can wish for wish.kde.org, if you want to.. |
01:46.28 | matr1x | you know, if a leprechaun can grant wishes, why dont they grant themselves wishes for more gold. |
01:46.58 | matr1x | one of those mysteries of the unknown i guess |
01:47.55 | Dhraakellian | heh |
01:51.50 | tpr | well, I'll go to get some sleep now, nites you all. |
01:51.59 | Dhraakellian | heh |
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02:04.16 | Dhraakellian | hey, cool... Thunderbird didn't see the bugs.kde.org password email as spam |
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02:08.33 | foo | if someone menu disappears |
02:08.35 | foo | what should they do |
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02:11.24 | Glide | k, total newb question, is there a way to start superkaramba at kde startup so it runs in the background? |
02:11.56 | annma | when you log out from kde, leave super karamba running |
02:12.08 | Glide | ah, thx |
02:12.10 | annma | it'll start when you start kde next time |
02:12.14 | Glide | knew it was simple |
02:12.22 | foo | my kde menu is empty |
02:12.23 | annma | :) |
02:12.24 | foo | there is nothing in it |
02:12.30 | foo | i dont know why |
02:12.32 | foo | i have restarted everything |
02:12.35 | foo | any ideas? |
02:12.35 | annma | foo: what kde version? what distro? |
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02:12.43 | annma | if you say gentoo, I scream |
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02:13.17 | BoChi | i had this issue with gentoo and beta1 |
02:13.17 | annma | foo: distro? |
02:13.19 | Dhraakellian | ,':-| |
02:13.28 | annma | BoChi: yes |
02:13.33 | BoChi | beta2 works fine |
02:13.41 | annma | some had it with beta2 |
02:13.54 | BoChi | hmm |
02:14.16 | annma | foo: are you there? |
02:14.28 | annma | I scared the guy ;) |
02:14.59 | BoChi | but i had the same problem with suse |
02:14.59 | BoChi | so it wasn't a distribution specific prob |
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02:16.03 | annma | BoChi: I think it was a beta1 bug, was fixed the next day |
02:16.08 | annma | afterall, it was beta |
02:16.17 | BoChi | of course |
02:16.18 | annma | beta1 was worse than alpha |
02:16.28 | annma | bad timing |
02:16.31 | BoChi | well, but it was stable ;) |
02:16.42 | BoChi | even if i had to start kwin manually |
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02:16.48 | BoChi | :-) |
02:16.52 | annma | it's always stable |
02:17.05 | annma | I mean, I use cvs HEAD and have no major problems |
02:17.08 | foo | anma: sorry.. kdebase-common-3.1.3-79.1.92mdk for mdk 9.2 |
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02:17.27 | BoChi | beta2 is pretty good already |
02:17.31 | BoChi | some khtml bugs |
02:17.33 | BoChi | kmenuedit |
02:17.48 | BoChi | but its good at all |
02:17.48 | Glide | k, part 2 of newb question, I start superkaramba from the konsole, but when I shut down and restart, all I get is an open konsole, no superkaramba, what am I doing wrong? |
02:17.56 | annma | foo: 3.1.3 from mandrake is ok |
02:18.57 | annma | foo: no problem in installing it? is it a fresh install? |
02:19.01 | BoChi | Glide, put a file into your ~kde/.Autostart which contains #!/bin/bash ; superkaramba /path/to/your/theme.theme and chmod it to u+x |
02:19.15 | annma | Glide: ah, from console, yes, it won't type the program name |
02:19.16 | BoChi | this will start it when kde starts |
02:19.49 | BoChi | actually it's ~/.kde/Autostart 8) |
02:19.50 | Glide | thx bochi |
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02:19.51 | annma | Glide: my fault, i thought superkaramba was started as every other app, from the K menu |
02:19.55 | Gasolin | Hello |
02:19.59 | foo | annma: Gasolin is the one with the problem |
02:20.07 | foo | Gasolin: no problem in installing it? is it a fresh install? |
02:20.11 | Glide | no probls :) |
02:20.26 | annma | Glide: :) ok |
02:20.42 | Gasolin | It's an update, no problem during install, and it updated well until now |
02:20.52 | annma | update from what? |
02:21.31 | Gasolin | annma: from mdk update and contrib sources |
02:21.46 | annma | what kde did you have before? |
02:22.42 | annma | Gasolin: I see that the mandrake packages are split into several |
02:22.47 | Gasolin | annma: Yes |
02:23.08 | annma | can you do a |
02:23.14 | annma | rpm -qa |grep kdebase |
02:23.14 | Gasolin | annma: well I can't remember the kde version related to 9.1 but the net should give an answer |
02:23.27 | Gasolin | annma: Right now, I have kdebase-common-3.1.3-79.1.92mdk |
02:23.32 | annma | and paste the result? |
02:23.39 | annma | and that;s all? |
02:23.47 | annma | only that from kdebase? |
02:24.13 | Gasolin | annma: and also libkdebase4-3.1.3-79.1.92mdk kdebase-nsplugins-3.1.3-79.1.92mdk kdebase-kdm-config-file-3.1.3-79.1.92mdk kdebase-progs-3.1.3-79.1.92mdk kdebase-servicemenu-1.0-12mdk |
02:24.18 | annma | I have mdk 9.2 however I use kde from cvs HEAD |
02:24.48 | annma | and kdebase? |
02:25.10 | Gasolin | annma: Sorry? |
02:25.19 | annma | you should also have kdebase-3.1.3-79.1.92mdk |
02:25.25 | annma | do you have it? |
02:26.05 | Gasolin | annma: Doesn't seem so (though I have no idea why) but rpm -qa kdebase doens't return anything |
02:26.19 | annma | rpm -qa |grep kdebase |
02:26.24 | annma | don't forget the grep |
02:26.45 | annma | copy and paste my command into a konsole and see the result |
02:26.49 | Gasolin | annma: Well it will return the result I just gave you |
02:26.54 | Gasolin | annma: Alright, and sorry for the flood then |
02:27.02 | Gasolin | rpm -qa | grep kdebase |
02:27.08 | annma | open drakconf and software management |
02:27.12 | Gasolin | kdebase-nsplugins-3.1.3-79.1.92mdk |
02:27.12 | Gasolin | kdebase-kdm-config-file-3.1.3-79.1.92mdk |
02:27.12 | Gasolin | kdebase-progs-3.1.3-79.1.92mdk |
02:27.12 | Gasolin | kdebase-servicemenu-1.0-12mdk |
02:27.12 | Gasolin | kdebase-common-3.1.3-79.1.92mdk |
02:27.40 | annma | I don't understand how kdebase can be missing and the rest installed |
02:27.49 | Gasolin | annma: I don't either |
02:28.07 | annma | with drakconf, type kdebase in the install packages section |
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02:28.15 | annma | see what comes up |
02:28.46 | annma | in case it does not work, maybe go to #mandrake, people here are very helpful |
02:29.11 | Gasolin | i have a kdebase-3.1.3-79mdk and a kdebase-3.1.3-79.1.92mdk also |
02:29.58 | annma | where? |
02:30.07 | annma | in the install software? |
02:30.09 | Gasolin | annma: From the updates source |
02:30.15 | Gasolin | annma: I used rpmdrake... |
02:30.15 | annma | installed? |
02:30.27 | Gasolin | annma: Installing |
02:31.03 | annma | rpmdrake in the install section in drakconf |
02:31.10 | annma | in/is |
02:31.27 | annma | you mean you are installing that now ? |
02:33.12 | Gasolin | Yeah, I typed kdebase, and installed the kdebase-3.1.3-79.1.92mdk (after all, it seems like that one is the right one considering my deps) |
02:33.31 | annma | hmm |
02:33.42 | annma | try restarting after |
02:34.47 | BoChi | all the world i've seen before me passing byyyeyey |
02:34.58 | Gasolin | annma: Restarting KDE? |
02:35.10 | Gasolin | annma: I did, it didn't change: I have the KDE menu, but not the Mandrake menu |
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02:38.14 | Glide | BoChi, almost there, it comes up telling me "Sorry, cannot find program" |
02:38.50 | BoChi | paste your script |
02:39.01 | Glide | i created a file called superkarambastart in my ~/.kde/Autostart folder, and made it executable |
02:39.29 | BoChi | yeah |
02:39.35 | BoChi | and what does the file contain? |
02:39.41 | Glide | #!/bin/bash ; /home/mbonar/superkaramba-0.33/src/superkaramba /home/mbonar/superkaramba-0.33/src/liquid_weather_plus/liquid_weather.theme |
02:40.16 | BoChi | delete the ; and make a new line |
02:40.30 | BoChi | and... i dont think that is the correct path to your superkaramba executable |
02:40.43 | Glide | that's where i installed it |
02:40.55 | BoChi | type "which superkaramba" |
02:41.22 | Glide | returns nothing |
02:41.42 | Glide | does it need to be started? |
02:41.57 | BoChi | go to /home/mbonar/superkaramba-0.33 and type make install as root |
02:42.07 | Glide | #!/bin/bash/home/mbonar/superkaramba-0.33/src/superkaramba /home/mbonar/superkaramba-0.33/src/liquid_weather_plus/liquid_weather.theme |
02:42.13 | Glide | looks like that now |
02:42.23 | BoChi | ah no |
02:42.34 | BoChi | make a new line after /bin/bash |
02:43.32 | Glide | it appears as two lines, just pastes funny |
02:43.48 | BoChi | okay |
02:44.06 | BoChi | <BoChi> go to /home/mbonar/superkaramba-0.33 and type make install as root <- |
02:44.19 | Glide | done, still returns nothing |
02:44.44 | BoChi | hmm |
02:45.02 | Glide | where should the executable go? |
02:45.05 | BoChi | as user or as root? |
02:45.09 | Glide | root |
02:45.14 | BoChi | try as user |
02:45.23 | BoChi | maybe there is something missing in $PATH for root |
02:45.35 | jorgp | if type "which superkaramba" returns nothing, then superkaramba exec is not in your path |
02:45.49 | Glide | running suse 9.0 |
02:46.02 | BoChi | do yast -i superkaramba then |
02:46.32 | Glide | yast not found, duh |
02:46.44 | Glide | maybe my path is hosed |
02:46.51 | jorgp | Glide: are you logged in as root? |
02:47.38 | Glide | cho $PATH/home/mbonar/raserver/bin:/home/mbonar/raserver/bin:/home/mbonar/raserver/bin:/home/mbonar/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/bin:/usr/games:/opt/gnome/bin:/opt/kde3/bin:/usr/lib/java/jre/bin |
02:47.41 | Glide | neg |
02:48.23 | jorgp | did you compile superkaramba from source? |
02:48.30 | Glide | yes |
02:48.58 | jorgp | did you compile it with --prefix=/opt/kde3 ? |
02:49.05 | Glide | no |
02:49.14 | jorgp | doh |
02:49.37 | jorgp | try that |
02:51.05 | BoChi | well, use the suse package |
02:51.20 | BoChi | Glide, if you're using suse yast _is_ installed |
02:51.22 | Glide | there's a suse package? |
02:51.37 | BoChi | type as root: yast -i superkaramba |
02:51.44 | Glide | i use yast all the time, but never from the command line |
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02:52.35 | Glide | yast did not find superkaramba |
02:52.35 | BoChi | its faster if you know which package to install |
02:52.39 | jorgp | Glide: it does not look like you are logged in as root because none of the sbin paths are in your path |
02:53.03 | BoChi | Glide, yea, sorry |
02:53.08 | BoChi | its yast -i karamba |
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02:54.37 | Glide | it finds karamba, but no superkaramba |
02:54.50 | BoChi | isnt it the same? :P |
02:55.01 | Glide | beats me :) |
02:55.02 | jorgp | no |
02:55.24 | jorgp | superkaramba is a superset of karamba |
02:57.52 | Glide | k, karamba is installed |
02:59.15 | Glide | #!/bin/bash/karamba /home/mbonar/superkaramba-0.33/src/liquid_weather_plus/liquid_weather.theme |
02:59.22 | Glide | looks like that now |
02:59.36 | Glide | sans / |
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03:10.15 | Glide | will karamba run superkaramba themes? |
03:10.50 | Glide | the script didn't load |
03:12.03 | Ubel | nope... |
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04:14.57 | oneforall | I just looked in konq and see kcore program crash data 384meg in /proc dir . there a way to clean that up ? |
04:19.59 | grepper | oneforall: not coincidentally, that is the amount of memory on your system ;) |
04:22.17 | grepper | don't delete this file, it has nothing to do with kde |
04:24.35 | oneforall | oh yeah kcore aint kde damn sometimes the names that get picked make you think of the wrong things eh :) |
04:25.05 | grepper | don't worry, it doesn't really take up 384megs |
04:25.38 | oneforall | was the program crash part to that made me think of kde . kde keeping a crash record that has biult up to 384 megs :0 |
04:25.58 | grepper | heh |
04:26.15 | grepper | if you google, you will see you are not the first to make a similar error ;) |
04:26.55 | oneforall | lol |
04:27.15 | oneforall | tring to clean up my system here getting really full again |
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04:28.16 | Buffon | hi |
04:28.29 | oneforall | thanks |
04:28.34 | grepper | np |
04:29.08 | oneforall | glad i thought aboout asking first befor I deleted it :) |
04:29.55 | grepper | heh |
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05:04.31 | oneforall | I wish there was a good place to go and find out how to tweek linux . mem ,resources etc . with the one that you wanrt to run and not that famous comment of "turn them off" . :) |
05:04.52 | oneforall | the one/the ones |
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05:12.59 | Caimlas | does anyone here know of a recent/stable KDE3.2 build/deb repository? I'm using one from the 11-04, and kdeinit blows up whenever I close a konqueror instance. |
05:20.54 | jose | anyone have embedded realplayer working with konqueror? |
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07:54.27 | reyn | does kde have a friendlier qcanvas widget, that can be used in designer ? |
07:55.11 | oneforall | hey there an app to make the keyboard a midi for linux ? |
07:58.16 | oneforall | designer whats that ? |
08:00.30 | reyn | its an ide to do qt/kde form layout |
08:18.26 | reyn | ugh, does kde have a qmake alternative ? How do I know what libs to include for a specific kde widget ? |
08:24.22 | reyn | ah, kdeui |
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11:14.06 | glick | excuse me does anyone here use korganizer? |
11:17.46 | ludwig | i do |
11:24.28 | glick | ludwig, when you save you are ask to name a calender file |
11:24.45 | glick | i dont understand do you just save to the same file every time or what? |
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11:32.23 | ludwig | i just make a calendar.ics somewhere |
11:32.27 | ludwig | and use that all the time |
11:32.38 | glick | i got it, thanks |
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11:38.02 | knoppix | hi all, wondering if there is a way to detect a screen blank event occuring from kscreensaver using dcop or something? |
11:42.06 | Dhraakellian | quick question: how does one run multiple x sessions on one computer? |
11:42.29 | Dhraakellian | I seem to remember it being something like "startx --:1" or something like that, but it's not working |
11:42.38 | drWorm | startx -- :1 i think |
11:42.47 | Dhraakellian | with the space? |
11:42.51 | drWorm | yes |
11:43.08 | drWorm | -- is just a delimiter, not an option prefix :) |
11:43.08 | ludwig | -- is just to terminate the options |
11:43.23 | Dhraakellian | bingo! |
11:43.24 | Dhraakellian | thanks |
11:43.41 | ludwig | it's standard. many programs use -- like that |
11:43.53 | drWorm | probably posix |
11:44.02 | ludwig | like, to delete a file called -rf, you use rm -- -rf :) |
11:45.10 | Dhraakellian | now to go try this on a computer that can handle multiple x sessions with more finesse than this old celeron 400MHz with 128MB RAM |
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12:12.00 | eille-la | hey there |
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12:30.16 | slainer68 | When I browse with Konqueror folders containing some files (enough to be able to use the mouse wheel to scroll the files) if I put the cursor on a file, the file tips box appears, then if I use the mouse wheel to scroll up or down |
12:30.17 | slainer68 | , the parts of the icons that were hidden by the file tips box are not refreshed at all. |
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13:14.58 | Helmholtz | After 10 hours of work I can not fix a cursor size problem I have in KDE 3, can some charitable one help? |
13:16.03 | evmi | is there a tool for grabbing X window that also grabs the mouse cursor? |
13:16.19 | Helmholtz | The problem is that I have problems seeing the cursor as it is too small and I am getting old:-). But simply selecting preferences large cursor will do nothing |
13:16.48 | Helmholtz | It seems also to depend on the user I use to log in. And the problem is KDE for outside is fine. |
13:17.06 | Helmholtz | In summary where does KDE 3 reads the cursor file from ? |
13:17.42 | Helmholtz | I thought it was in .kde/share/fonts but it does not lead me to anywhere |
13:19.10 | Helmholtz | Please I need some ideas |
13:22.16 | Helmholtz | Jesus, I thought this was the place to ask, but this look like pretty dead |
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13:23.17 | ddaa | Is that a easter a egg of sorts? My KDE clock is displaying "Los Angeles" time... |
13:23.37 | ddaa | user error |
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13:25.10 | sleon|tuX | hi |
13:25.23 | sleon|tuX | where to get the description of kde classes? |
13:25.42 | sleon|tuX | from |
13:26.08 | Helmholtz | Can at least someone say me if the upgrade to KDE 3.2 from KDE 3.0 is too painfull in RedHat 8 with XFree86 4.2 ? |
13:26.31 | drWorm | sleon|tuX: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/index.html |
13:26.42 | sleon|tuX | thx, drWorm |
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14:07.31 | cranch | I have a really dumb question. How do I change the icon for the trashcan on KDE 3.1.4? |
14:07.49 | cranch | When I right click it, I change the icon that appears when its full.. |
14:10.12 | sleon|tuX | cranch: hm |
14:11.41 | cranch | if I change themes, the trash icon changes (icon themes that is) |
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16:35.33 | Takezo | Hello all, I am currently using slackware and would like to update KDE (3.1) to the latest version using cvs. Is anyone familiar with udating KDE using this method? |
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16:51.28 | Zapelius | Takezo, http://www.holgermetzger.de/pix/bart.jpg |
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17:04.27 | George- | brb - new kernel |
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17:59.43 | jose | can someone on Gentoo test RealPlay8/9 netscape plugin for Konqueror functionality? |
18:00.09 | BoChi | i'm using mplayerplug-in for playing real stuff |
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18:00.48 | jose | BoChi: is that a netscape only plugin? |
18:01.15 | BoChi | all mozilla plugins work in konqui |
18:01.20 | BoChi | nspluginviewer |
18:02.19 | jose | RP 8/9 don't for me tho, i'll look ino that in the meantime |
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18:17.01 | Lucaass | hi! How can I change the default browser in KDE? |
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18:21.01 | frodo_baggins | hi |
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18:51.04 | jose | how to install a konqi nav panel plugin? |
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18:52.56 | whitehat3 | i'm using k3b-0.10.3 on FC1 and when I select burn the burn dialog box just hangs and i see no activity on the burner. ideas? |
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18:53.25 | AssociateX | Hello peopel |
18:53.29 | AssociateX | people* |
18:53.55 | AssociateX | where is the file that I put things in to autostart on X with kde? |
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19:06.08 | AssociateX | Hello people |
19:06.23 | AssociateX | I figured out the autostart thing |
19:06.31 | AssociateX | is anyone out there? |
19:06.35 | Markey | and the crowd goes wild |
19:07.10 | AssociateX | :o) |
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19:09.22 | Osato | happy new year!!! i have to go... |
19:09.33 | AssociateX | I am having a problem with my menu. I move open office under Applications now it's gone and so is my office dir on the menu. Why is this? |
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19:10.34 | Stormchaser | Greetings! |
19:10.39 | AssociateX | is there a menu-update? |
19:10.45 | AssociateX | or the like? |
19:11.53 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: what gui are you using? |
19:11.58 | AssociateX | kde |
19:12.33 | AssociateX | that's why I'm here. |
19:12.36 | whitehat3 | there is an option in the control centre for adding/moving/editing menu items. |
19:12.47 | AssociateX | ok |
19:12.51 | AssociateX | I'll look |
19:13.00 | whitehat3 | select the Control Centre from the KDE menu in the bottom left corner |
19:13.10 | Stormchaser | I have a queston: how can you (in KMail) set a filter for the .exe lines? If I set the filter to .exe, then it filters out all the messagess having "exe" inside, ignorig the dot before... Ideas? |
19:13.28 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: select Desktop->Panels->Menus |
19:13.48 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: edit to your heart's content. |
19:14.07 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: select Edit K Menu |
19:14.33 | AssociateX | that is the tool I was using, but when I moved a dir and an app they disappeared |
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19:15.07 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: did you click the Apply button? |
19:15.22 | AssociateX | yes |
19:15.42 | whitehat3 | it's possible that you may have moved them in a menu item either one above or one below. |
19:15.54 | AssociateX | I'll check |
19:15.57 | whitehat3 | look at the menu items one or two below to see if they are there. |
19:16.57 | AssociateX | I looked through them but nothing |
19:19.21 | AssociateX | <PROTECTED> |
19:19.33 | Markey | hey stormy |
19:19.54 | Stormchaser | yoyo, Markey! :) |
19:19.58 | Markey | =) |
19:20.16 | Stormchaser | Markey: have a happy new year :) |
19:20.26 | Markey | thx Stormchaser, u 2 :) |
19:20.28 | AssociateX | it would be nice if there was a xml option for the menu structure instead of the complicated dir structure that kde uses now. |
19:21.16 | AssociateX | kde is rather slick otherwise |
19:21.31 | Stormchaser | Markey: just informational: what are you doing behind the computer? Aren't you supposed to be celebrating somewhere? |
19:21.38 | Wimpie- | http://www.xfree86.org/#news <-- Seen this? |
19:22.28 | Markey | Stormchaser: well I'll skip the celebrating this time, just some nice wine and so hax0ring for me ;) |
19:22.47 | Stormchaser | Markey: you geek :) |
19:23.00 | Markey | Wimpie-: loooooong beard |
19:23.55 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: I'm thinking that you could hit the "Defaults" button in the main Control Panel |
19:24.18 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: however, are you may know it will reset other paramters. |
19:24.46 | AssociateX | grrrr |
19:24.55 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: However, if you can find where KDE hide the defaults then you could use that info |
19:25.00 | AssociateX | I added a lot of files to the list too |
19:25.14 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: do you remember which menu items's you moved? |
19:25.25 | AssociateX | one dir called office |
19:25.36 | whitehat3 | Ok. |
19:25.57 | whitehat3 | you can just create another one |
19:26.03 | AssociateX | it had like three or four apps in it |
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19:26.40 | whitehat3 | go to the top of the menu tree and right click and select new item |
19:26.51 | whitehat3 | type Office |
19:27.01 | AssociateX | just did |
19:27.27 | AssociateX | I hit apply but it still did not show up |
19:27.59 | whitehat3 | a dialog box should display when you click New Item |
19:28.11 | whitehat3 | there is not Apply button for that dialog box |
19:28.16 | whitehat3 | however, |
19:28.21 | Stormchaser | whitehat3: I think, that there is a bug in it... |
19:28.41 | Stormchaser | AssociateX: you could still try kfindapplication... |
19:28.43 | AssociateX | I added an app |
19:29.05 | Stormchaser | AssociateX: as new group or new item? |
19:29.10 | AssociateX | now it shows but just what I put in it, not the old stuff |
19:29.11 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: sorry. i'm bouncing between a number of chats and I thougth you were in a fedora chat. |
19:29.32 | AssociateX | I'll look at kappfinder now |
19:30.03 | whitehat3 | you can type which <application> at the command line |
19:31.14 | AssociateX | theres that office dir that disappeared earlier in kappfinder, had ghostview in it, cool, I hope it adds |
19:31.29 | AssociateX | I meant X PDF |
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19:32.38 | AssociateX | is it not suggested to add/move/delete files and dir manually for the start menu? |
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19:35.36 | AssociateX | kappfinder did not add the apps that I selected... |
19:35.40 | AssociateX | hmmmftp |
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19:36.11 | Stormchaser | AssociateX: whch app you need to add? |
19:36.54 | big_o | anyone here played soul calibur 2? |
19:37.00 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: use which |
19:37.09 | AssociateX | kappfinder had about 30 of them, most I did not even care about, but they still did not add |
19:37.51 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: use which |
19:37.57 | AssociateX | grip is cool, but it did not add |
19:38.02 | whitehat3 | what applications are you looking for? |
19:38.31 | AssociateX | use which for what? |
19:39.00 | AssociateX | I can find apps just fine, it's the not adding to the start menu that is bothering me |
19:39.04 | whitehat3 | which is a program to locate executibles |
19:39.49 | AssociateX | I know about which |
19:40.18 | AssociateX | I just want my orignal office dir back in my start menu, lets start there |
19:40.38 | AssociateX | ***with out loosing all the other apps that I already added. |
19:41.44 | Stormchaser | AssociateX: for OpenOffice or KOffice? |
19:43.24 | AssociateX | OpenOffice |
19:43.34 | AssociateX | wait |
19:43.59 | AssociateX | I'm using OpenOffice, but the "dir" that I lost was office or Office. |
19:44.23 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: /bin/ls -la /opt |
19:44.46 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: do you see the office directory? |
19:45.50 | Stormchaser | AssociateX: just runa againg OOo-setup, and it will recreate the dir in the kmenu :) |
19:48.12 | AssociateX | OpenOffice.org1.1.0 blackdown-jdk-1.4.1 legends quake3-demo ut2003-demo |
19:48.12 | AssociateX | americas-army enemy-territory netscape savagedemo |
19:48.35 | whitehat3 | cool... cd /opt/OpenOffice* |
19:48.42 | AssociateX | no just apps that I added and not all of them |
19:49.07 | whitehat3 | what version of linux are you using? |
19:49.09 | AssociateX | ok |
19:49.12 | AssociateX | gentoo |
19:49.38 | AssociateX | I just never really messed around with kde menus before |
19:49.41 | whitehat3 | k. not familiar with gentoo but lets continue. |
19:49.57 | whitehat3 | what version of OO are you using? |
19:49.59 | AssociateX | ok |
19:50.10 | AssociateX | 1.0 I think |
19:50.16 | AssociateX | let me check |
19:50.23 | Stormchaser | AssociateX: running OOo-setup should be enough... Or just running OOo :) |
19:50.28 | Stormchaser | 1.1.0 |
19:50.46 | AssociateX | yeah, 1.1.0 |
19:50.48 | Stormchaser | (says so in the /opt, right?) |
19:51.03 | whitehat3 | Stormchaser: is OOo a gentoo link to setup? |
19:51.04 | AssociateX | yeah |
19:51.32 | Stormchaser | whitehat3: no... It's a link to the OOo application |
19:52.08 | whitehat3 | hmm. k. must be differnet because i'm running the tar.gz 1.1.0 OO and no OOo |
19:52.12 | whitehat3 | just setup |
19:52.32 | AssociateX | OOo |
19:52.32 | AssociateX | bash: OOo: command not found |
19:52.37 | AssociateX | but ooffice works |
19:52.50 | whitehat3 | i know they've chenaged their links between 1.0 and 1.1 |
19:52.56 | Stormchaser | AssociateX: oh |
19:53.13 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: do you see the setup script? |
19:53.31 | whitehat3 | there should be a "remove/repair and some other option" |
19:53.44 | whitehat3 | remember you should run ./setup if it's there. |
19:53.48 | whitehat3 | and not setup |
19:54.03 | Stormchaser | cd "/opt/OpenOffice.org1.1.0/bin" |
19:54.20 | whitehat3 | there is no bin directory |
19:54.25 | whitehat3 | at that level |
19:54.26 | AssociateX | I've already been using open office, it's just a matter of it being in the start menu |
19:54.55 | AssociateX | but I have it there now, just not the old "office" ***dir*** |
19:55.05 | Stormchaser | cd /opt/OpenOffice.org1.1.0/program |
19:55.41 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: K. i was just trying to determin if you actually lost your OO |
19:55.49 | AssociateX | oh no |
19:55.59 | AssociateX | it still works if I run ooffice |
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19:56.28 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: i didn't know that before and i wasn't sure what other things you had done |
19:57.01 | AssociateX | maybe it's time for a brandy/coke and some Enemy Territory |
19:57.11 | AssociateX | . |
19:57.17 | Stormchaser | AssociateX: just cd /opt/OpenOffice.org1.1.0/program and then ./setup... |
19:57.36 | AssociateX | Stormchaser, what will that do? |
19:57.48 | whitehat3 | actually the setup program should also be in /opt/OpenOffice.org1.1.0 |
19:57.55 | whitehat3 | and is a link to program/setup |
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19:58.26 | Stormchaser | AssociateX: just hit "repair" after you ren setup", and that might do the trick |
19:58.33 | AssociateX | Stormchaser, did it |
19:58.39 | Stormchaser | and? |
19:58.42 | AssociateX | menu looks the same though |
19:58.53 | Stormchaser | AssociateX: Then restart KDE |
19:58.59 | AssociateX | brb |
19:59.06 | whitehat3 | exit from the menu editor and reenter the menu editor |
19:59.35 | whitehat3 | i need a long break |
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19:59.58 | Stormchaser | and? |
20:00.29 | AssociateX | it look the same |
20:00.33 | AssociateX | looks* |
20:00.58 | Stormchaser | you don't have OpenOffice dir? |
20:01.17 | AssociateX | I did put AMSN in the autostart dir which just started when I came back. I like that |
20:01.37 | AssociateX | just the one that I made |
20:02.13 | AssociateX | Stormchaser, but I still dont have my "Office dir", dir, not app. |
20:03.12 | Stormchaser | What does kmenuedit say? Does it show it? |
20:03.39 | AssociateX | no |
20:03.57 | AssociateX | and I looked through the nearby dir toos |
20:04.00 | AssociateX | too* |
20:04.24 | Stormchaser | AssociateX: Oh, then there is something broken... |
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20:04.56 | AssociateX | do you know where to start to fix it? |
20:05.17 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: are you selecting "New Item or New Submenu" |
20:05.39 | Stormchaser | AssociateX: nope... The normal open office launch should recreate the dirs... |
20:06.32 | AssociateX | whitehat3, neither, I just moved a dir then it was gone like the wind |
20:06.36 | Stormchaser | AssociateX: so if they are not in kmenuedit, then there is something badly broken... |
20:07.13 | whitehat3 | AssociateX: OK. press the "New Item" button, fill in a name of Office and hit return |
20:07.57 | Stormchaser | AssociateX: how about asking this kn of question in #gentoo? |
20:08.02 | Stormchaser | kind |
20:08.11 | AssociateX | whitehat3, that I can do, and have done, but it did not bring the apps back that were in the orginal dir. |
20:08.21 | whitehat3 | that is correct |
20:08.27 | AssociateX | because its kde related |
20:08.37 | whitehat3 | it will only create the top level holder for the office applications |
20:08.45 | AssociateX | ok |
20:09.11 | whitehat3 | select the Office Item you created then right click that Office |
20:09.19 | whitehat3 | Item menu and select New Item |
20:09.25 | AssociateX | it's most certainly not the end of the world. I'll just hunt down the apps and add them back in |
20:09.38 | whitehat3 | that will display the appriate dialog box in the right panel |
20:09.39 | Stormchaser | AssociateX: maybe... Maybe not... You should first ask in the distro's catroom, and then nag around... Maybe is openOffice related, maybe is Gentoo oriented... |
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20:10.10 | AssociateX | well, I ask in gentoo, you are right about that |
20:10.16 | AssociateX | I'll*( |
20:10.18 | AssociateX | blah |
20:10.19 | Caimlas | does anyone know of any unofficial (and stable) KDE 3.2 deb packages? |
20:10.21 | AssociateX | I'll* |
20:10.22 | Stormchaser | good |
20:10.39 | Stormchaser | Caimlas: #kde-gentoo |
20:10.45 | Stormchaser | #kde-debian |
20:10.58 | Caimlas | heh |
20:10.59 | Caimlas | thanks. |
20:13.18 | Caimlas | hrm, those guys aren't terrible active |
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20:26.56 | frodo_baggins | hi |
20:27.09 | frodo_baggins | I am running KDE 3.2 CVS install |
20:27.38 | frodo_baggins | when I right click on a icon on my desktop, it does not shade that well. It was a very fuzzy green color. any ideas? |
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20:39.14 | Caimlas | nothing like waiting for an answer |
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21:10.27 | sleon|tuX | hi all |
21:10.29 | sleon|tuX | YES I MADE |
21:10.33 | sleon|tuX | IT |
21:10.47 | sleon|tuX | kdict can handle now more then one server at once! |
21:10.48 | sleon|tuX | :) |
21:11.00 | sleon|tuX | but the interface i produced is so horrible |
21:56.27 | sleon|tuX | JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
21:56.29 | sleon|tuX | YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSss |
21:56.31 | sleon|tuX | YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSss |
21:56.32 | sleon|tuX | cool |
21:56.34 | sleon|tuX | it works! |
21:56.37 | sleon|tuX | IT WORKS! |
21:56.39 | sleon|tuX | !!! |
21:56.40 | sleon|tuX | :)))))))))))))))))))) |
21:56.45 | sleon|tuX | my first hack for kdict |
21:56.47 | sleon|tuX | yesssssssssssssss |
21:59.00 | sleon|tuX | WOHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOO |
21:59.09 | sleon|tuX | i love qt |
21:59.17 | sleon|tuX | it is sooooooooo easy |
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22:03.20 | minux | hi there,i have a computer with a safety/smart card installed, but,i have lost the administration password, do you guys know of any tool i can run to recover it ? |
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22:05.22 | suhcoolbro | sleon|tuX: please add timing comparisons and charts showing relative timings of the servers. |
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22:06.02 | sleon|tuX | suhcoolbro: are you kdict developer? |
22:06.34 | sleon|tuX | suhcoolbro: that is still difficult for me, in theree days maybe i will be able to do it :) |
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22:09.26 | enginuitor | I have a question... |
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22:09.41 | enginuitor | I like having two rows of task buttons in my taskbar... |
22:10.00 | enginuitor | But it will only go to two rows if the panel is above a certain height |
22:10.32 | enginuitor | In order to make it go to two rows, I have to make it so big that it looks ugly |
22:10.46 | suhcoolbro | suhcoolbro: i could be. ok, three days is fine. |
22:10.48 | enginuitor | Is there a way to make it go to two rows at a lower height? |
22:10.57 | suhcoolbro | use qt. ;) |
22:11.04 | enginuitor | lol |
22:11.22 | enginuitor | Actually, I use qt/embedded on my Zaurus and it's great |
22:11.35 | enginuitor | But I prefer KDE on the desktop |
22:12.11 | suhcoolbro | goes to two rows? otherwise in one row? |
22:12.18 | enginuitor | Yeah... |
22:12.21 | suhcoolbro | you want it in a column? |
22:12.33 | enginuitor | erm... |
22:12.47 | enginuitor | Normally, when you have a bunch of tasks open, they're all lined up in a row... |
22:13.03 | enginuitor | But when you expand the panel to a certain size, you get two rows |
22:13.27 | enginuitor | hence room for more tasks to be easily visible |
22:14.07 | suhcoolbro | is it related to the font? |
22:14.31 | enginuitor | hmm... |
22:14.33 | enginuitor | maybe |
22:14.38 | sleon|tuX | suhcoolbro: but what do you mean with relative timings? |
22:14.44 | enginuitor | I'll make the font smaller... brb |
22:15.11 | sleon|tuX | suhcoolbro: ping? |
22:15.22 | sleon|tuX | suhcoolbro: i mean, i don't know how to do it |
22:16.38 | enginuitor | suhcoolbro: I set the taskbar font all the way to sans 6... |
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22:17.16 | suhcoolbro | sleon|tuX: well, timings for each site (e.g. .012seconds on lookup to server.foo.org) and then with little charts like a network thruput graph -- to be used to compare & relate the servers to each other. |
22:17.39 | enginuitor | suhcoolbro: the text got real small, but the buttons stayed big and fat, and didn't split up |
22:18.03 | suhcoolbro | enginuitor: i use Large layout and get two rows. it's not too awfully ugly. |
22:18.06 | sleon|tuX | suhcoolbro: why do you need it? |
22:18.23 | sleon|tuX | suhcoolbro: there is not so much server out there |
22:18.39 | sleon|tuX | suhcoolbro: and i am happy if i find one supporting my language |
22:18.49 | suhcoolbro | sleon|tuX: wouldn't it be cool? it could track reponse times, errors, uptimes, ... |
22:19.18 | sleon|tuX | suhcoolbro: but do i need this feature if i only want look up a world? |
22:19.20 | sleon|tuX | word |
22:19.30 | sleon|tuX | will it not make thigs bloated? |
22:19.42 | suhcoolbro | sleon|tuX: why did you want multiple servers? |
22:19.49 | sleon|tuX | cause |
22:19.54 | sleon|tuX | the one is only english german |
22:19.59 | sleon|tuX | the other is german russion |
22:20.06 | sleon|tuX | and there is no english russian |
22:20.18 | suhcoolbro | oh, so it's not about redundancy, it's about getting one of all that you want. |
22:20.22 | sleon|tuX | or one is chinese thie |
22:20.27 | sleon|tuX | yes |
22:20.31 | sleon|tuX | different servers |
22:20.36 | sleon|tuX | different dictionaries |
22:20.37 | suhcoolbro | well, still. it's be cool. |
22:20.39 | sleon|tuX | and languages |
22:20.46 | suhcoolbro | report the stats to the stats server. |
22:21.10 | sleon|tuX | hmm |
22:21.40 | sleon|tuX | i must first implement the interface , which allows user to enter new servers |
22:21.45 | sleon|tuX | delete and edit them |
22:22.05 | sleon|tuX | it is not so easy if you never programmed qt and c++ before |
22:22.31 | sleon|tuX | now i can choose from server, which are in the programm hardcoded :)))) |
22:22.47 | sleon|tuX | in QStringList |
22:22.56 | sleon|tuX | and you choose them from KComboBox |
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22:29.02 | sleon|tuX | re |
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22:29.49 | delire | how do set Konsol to underline (and make clickable), URL's? |
22:30.05 | delire | s/Konsol/Konsole |
22:30.26 | Caimlas | does anyone know of any unofficial (and stable) KDE 3.2 CVS deb packages? |
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22:30.54 | delire | CVS? i doubt it.. are you sure you mean CVS deb packages? |
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22:34.57 | Caimlas | delire: i'm not sure, why wouldn't I mean cvs deb packages? |
22:35.05 | Caimlas | packages of kde 3.2's cvs head. whatever. |
22:36.00 | delire | Caimlas: CVS is usually for source not packages |
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22:36.57 | Caimlas | delire: I'm aware of that. however, that source can be compiled and made into packages, can it not? |
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22:38.34 | frodo_ | hi |
22:43.43 | frodo_ | anyone around? |
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22:55.59 | enginuitor | what is "sometimes"? |
22:56.07 | enginuitor | noticed it on a nmap scan... |
22:58.58 | enginuitor | whoops, wrong channel |
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