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| 01:27.48 | ipaqprobs | hello. |
| 01:28.45 | ipaqprobs | need some help setting up a ppp connection with my ipaq. |
| 01:29.38 | Debolaz | And our PSI abilities will instantly tell us what the problem you're experiencing is caused by without you telling us anything. :) |
| 01:31.08 | ipaqprobs | sorry :) |
| 01:31.17 | RandyS2 | http://www.handhelds.org:8080/wiki/PPPHowto worked like a champ for me |
| 01:31.38 | ipaqprobs | i've got a win2k box |
| 01:31.42 | Debolaz | Nobody likes metaquestions. ;) |
| 01:31.46 | ipaqprobs | heh. |
| 01:32.08 | Debolaz | Everybody should just ask their actual question right away instead of trying to be polite. Politeness-- |
| 01:32.32 | RandyS2 | http://www.handhelds.org/howto/win2kppp/win2kppp.html |
| 01:32.33 | Debolaz | Anyway, setting up PPP isn't very difficult. http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/W2k_PPP_dhcp will give you everything you need. |
| 01:32.42 | Debolaz | (Including screenshots) |
| 01:33.00 | ipaqprobs | i believe there is something configured improperly on my ipaq. i have limited experience with linux |
| 01:33.17 | ipaqprobs | i think i have everything set up on the win2k side fine. i read w2kppp dhcp/win2kppp |
| 01:33.44 | ipaqprobs | lots of things could have gone wrong. |
| 01:33.55 | ipaqprobs | i may have used ip addresses that don't jive with everything else |
| 01:34.01 | ipaqprobs | my head seems to be rotten on this topic. |
| 01:35.13 | RandyS2 | with the latest version of familiar, there isn't really anything to set up on the ipaq. |
| 01:35.22 | Debolaz | RandyS2: There certainly is. |
| 01:35.32 | Debolaz | If you want a PPP connection. |
| 01:35.50 | RandyS2 | well, maybe we are talking about two different things. |
| 01:36.01 | ipaqprobs | in gpe, network settings, what should the various dhcp settings be set to? |
| 01:36.17 | Debolaz | RandyS2: You're probably thing of usbnet. |
| 01:36.27 | Debolaz | That should "just work" afaik. |
| 01:36.37 | RandyS2 | all I did was set my linux box up (ppp stuff) and start pppd. it connects to the ipaq and establishes a ppp connection |
| 01:36.49 | ipaqprobs | yeah. it's configured to work with a linux box fairly easily |
| 01:36.51 | RandyS2 | no, it wasn't usbnet |
| 01:36.53 | Debolaz | Ah, connecting to the iPAQ. That's easy. |
| 01:36.53 | ipaqprobs | i have a win2k box at the moment. :( |
| 01:37.02 | Debolaz | You're right about that, but that causes problems on Windows. |
| 01:37.17 | RandyS2 | the ipaq connecting out is a different issue though. |
| 01:37.24 | Debolaz | You'll have a hard time getting internet access if you connect from windows to ipaq instead of the other way around. |
| 01:37.48 | RandyS2 | okay, I am not a windoze person. don't know much about it |
| 01:38.50 | ipaqprobs | i should be selecting "connect directly to another computer" for the network connection type, right? |
| 01:39.07 | ipaqprobs | it doesn't really say in the w2k_ppp_dhcp wiki, just shows a screenshot |
| 01:39.23 | Debolaz | ipaqprobs: Follow the directions in the tutorial I gave you above, this worked for me. |
| 01:39.27 | Debolaz | Though you might need to disable getty. |
| 01:39.35 | RandyS2 | what would make internet access difficult with the connection direction ipaq<->pc ? |
| 01:39.50 | Debolaz | RandyS2: Windows doesn't want to share the network that way. |
| 01:40.19 | ipaqprobs | debolaz: thanks. i'll start there. |
| 01:41.02 | RandyS2 | I see |
| 01:41.21 | ipaqprobs | i just found something that may have been causing the problem. |
| 01:41.31 | ipaqprobs | there is a service that has to be running, mine was disabled. |
| 01:51.48 | RandyS2 | someone have the ipkg-build.sh script? |
| 01:54.39 | RandyS2 | zaurus.com isn't resolving |
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| 18:16.14 | ipaqprobs | hi. |
| 18:16.37 | ipaqprobs | does anyone have experience with setting up ppp on their ipaq/win2k machine? |
| 18:17.11 | Debolaz | I do. |
| 18:17.27 | ipaqprobs | oh, hi deb. i tried what you suggested last night |
| 18:17.30 | ipaqprobs | still no luck :( |
| 18:17.45 | Debolaz | Are you sure you've done everything according to the wiki reference I gave you? |
| 18:17.48 | ipaqprobs | actually, my tcp/ip connection got hosed somehow in the process. had to remove/reinstall tcp/ip |
| 18:18.08 | ipaqprobs | yeah. i'm going to try one more time from a fresh start (immediately after installing familiar) |
| 18:18.59 | ipaqprobs | something that doesn't seem right is when i run ipconfig, i dont see any info for a ppp connection like in the screenshot from the wiki |
| 18:20.02 | ipaqprobs | i also have a dumb newbie question. (not much linux experience) .. with vi, what is the proper way to get out of insert mode |
| 18:20.03 | Debolaz | What does pppd tell you when you start it? |
| 18:20.08 | Debolaz | Escape. |
| 18:20.10 | ipaqprobs | pppd returns nothing |
| 18:20.15 | ipaqprobs | no errors, but no output whatsoever. |
| 18:20.18 | ipaqprobs | escape. duh. thanks |
| 18:20.21 | Debolaz | Does it just exit? |
| 18:20.27 | ipaqprobs | yes |
| 18:20.34 | Debolaz | Are you doing this from the serial console? |
| 18:20.45 | ipaqprobs | i ran right from the ipaq |
| 18:21.01 | Debolaz | Paste your chat-to-w2k file. |
| 18:21.11 | Debolaz | (Or just type the content of it, it's not that much) |
| 18:22.16 | ipaqprobs | TIMEOUT 2 <nl> "" <a lot of spaces> "CLIENTCLIENT\c" <nl> "SERVER" "SERVER\c" |
| 18:22.55 | ipaqprobs | in /etc/ppp , right? |
| 18:23.03 | Debolaz | Yes. |
| 18:23.12 | Debolaz | What lines did you add to /etc/ppp/options ? |
| 18:23.41 | ipaqprobs | just the noipdefault and the connect string |
| 18:24.52 | Debolaz | That's odd, you should at least get an error message from pppd |
| 18:25.33 | ipaqprobs | yeah. hm. |
| 18:25.46 | Debolaz | Did you disable serial console? |
| 18:25.47 | ipaqprobs | like i said, i'm going to try this whole process over again after a fresh install |
| 18:25.54 | ipaqprobs | where do i do that at? |
| 18:26.33 | Debolaz | Add a '#' in front of the last line of /etc/inittab and do "delinit q" at the console to reload the changes. |
| 18:26.46 | Debolaz | And be sure no serial console is running. |
| 18:26.50 | ipaqprobs | in chat-to-w2k, is that a tab between "" and "CLIENTCLIENT", or just spaces? |
| 18:28.22 | ipaqprobs | in gpe, if i go to the network config, the usbf tab has different settings than it did last time. (just finished fresh install) |
| 18:28.35 | ipaqprobs | it is set to static now, not dhcp or ppp like it was set to last time. |
| 18:28.45 | ipaqprobs | just seems to be ip address settings or something |
| 18:29.17 | Debolaz | I use tabs. |
| 18:29.24 | Debolaz | And I don't touch usb* at all. |
| 18:30.23 | ipaqprobs | okay. |
| 18:30.42 | ipaqprobs | global "use dhcp" yes/no? |
| 18:34.31 | ipaqprobs | i really would like to get ppp working, but my focus is really to get my keyboard driver installed, and when i try to run ipkg install blahblah.ipk it tries to connect to the internet |
| 18:34.39 | ipaqprobs | is there anyway to install the drivers without connecting to the internet? |
| 18:35.07 | ipaqprobs | another thing about the wiki. at the end, he says something about /etc/modules.conf.. do you need to edit that? |
| 18:35.38 | ipaqprobs | my /etc/modules looks way different than the screenshot, too. |
| 18:35.44 | ipaqprobs | it says at the top of the file not to modify it |
| 18:35.56 | ipaqprobs | automatically generated by update-modules, which doesnt seem to exist. |
| 18:36.37 | ipaqprobs | i am using the latest unstable familiar image |
| 18:38.41 | ipaqprobs | is find |grep "update" proper, for finding filenames containing "update"? |
| 18:39.12 | ipaqprobs | ugh. |
| 18:39.37 | Debolaz | You can upload the driver through the serial console. |
| 18:40.52 | ipaqprobs | i tried that. i guess i didnt actually upload the driver though? it was only like 4k |
| 18:42.03 | ipaqprobs | zmodem transfers work okay. |
| 18:42.59 | ipaqprobs | great. w2k will not proceed past the 'host/guest' screen. it just locks |
| 18:43.17 | ipaqprobs | maybe i should shut down hyperterm |
| 18:43.51 | ipaqprobs | oh, this could have something to do with it. |
| 18:43.53 | ipaqprobs | maybe. |
| 18:44.11 | ipaqprobs | "Incoming connections depend on the Routing and Remote Access service which was unable to start" |
| 18:45.22 | ipaqprobs | do you have any idea what the system event log filename is? |
| 18:45.53 | ipaqprobs | event viewer perhaps. |
| 18:47.00 | ipaqprobs | interesting. seems this problem has persisted ever since i started trying to set up ppp. |
| 18:49.53 | ipaqprobs | bbl, thx for the help |
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| 18:58.58 | ipaqprobs | hey deb. is it possible this isn't working because i have cable with a limited # of IPs.. seems like dhcp probably wouldn't work here. |
| 18:59.12 | ipaqprobs | or is my desktop acting as a dhcp server? |
| 19:06.18 | Debolaz | Your desktop is acting as a DHCP server providing you with a local address space. |
| 19:07.13 | ipaqprobs | okay |
| 19:07.34 | ipaqprobs | seems like every time i try to do the win2k settings, my tcp/ip connection stops working |
| 19:07.53 | ipaqprobs | i have to uninstall/reinstall tcp/ip protocol |
| 19:10.54 | ipaqprobs | network connection wizard freezes after i select host. sigh |
| 19:12.42 | ipaqprobs | i am so ready to trash windows and install linux. |
| 19:30.43 | ipaqprobs | do you think this could have something to do with the fact that i'm running win2kpro, not win2k server? |
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| 22:32.19 | ipaqprobs | hi. could someone please explain to me how update-modules works? |
| 22:35.18 | ipaqprobs | also, where is the pppd log file? |
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