| 01:00:34 | greeno | is away: xmas-lunch |
| 10:42:04 | flupp | hello, could someone help me with a few questions I'm having ? |
| 10:42:39 | flupp | (meery X-mas, BTW) |
| 10:42:59 | flupp | s/eer/err/g |
| 10:45:08 | beeblebrox | ?? |
| 10:46:44 | flupp | hello, beeblebrox. Glad to have someone alive on the list ... |
| 10:47:22 | beeblebrox | flupp: what qustion did you have? |
| 10:47:50 | flupp | I'm on th epoint of bying a handheld |
| 10:48:01 | flupp | and I'd want it to run Linux |
| 10:48:22 | flupp | so I think the iPAQ is the fair choice |
| 10:48:35 | banshee | ... if you run windows.. you have an organizer and a mp3 player... if you run practically anything else on it... you basically got a palm top computer |
| 10:48:38 | flupp | but which one should I take ? |
| 10:48:40 | beeblebrox | yea, get an ipaq, or the new Sharp thing |
| 10:49:02 | beeblebrox | flupp: whats your budget? |
| 10:49:30 | flupp | let's say around 500 Euro |
| 10:49:45 | beeblebrox | if you have the money, go for the new 3850 or something.. it is not yet supported, but will suun run linux |
| 10:49:45 | flupp | or slightly more ? |
| 10:50:10 | beeblebrox | otherwise i'd recommend the 37xx. these have 32mb ROM, and are better than the 36xx series |
| 10:50:25 | beeblebrox | you might also want a PCMCIA or a CF sleeve with it |
| 10:50:50 | flupp | what's that ? (a CF sleeve) |
| 10:51:00 | beeblebrox | compact flash |
| 10:51:13 | banshee | compact flash |
| 10:51:19 | flupp | and what does that do ? |
| 10:51:20 | banshee | what he said |
| 10:51:21 | beeblebrox | it takes in a CF card.. for extra memory, or the network, or many other things |
| 10:51:43 | flupp | so you mean it's not standard |
| 10:51:54 | beeblebrox | flupp: basically, it is a pcmcia card, with a smaller size |
| 10:52:01 | banshee | its... more flash.. or other accessories.. but.. not that much of a variety or readily availble in most area's as pcmcia type cards |
| 10:52:10 | flupp | sorry . I'll be back ... |
| 10:52:12 | beeblebrox | flupp: not really.. it is more or less standard noe, and iss used by many handhelds/cameras |
| 10:54:02 | banshee | ... took me bout 5 months to get the money together for my setup |
| 10:54:03 | flupp | sorry |
| 10:56:01 | flupp | (may I ?) |
| 10:56:36 | banshee | looks up at the big flashing, idle now, sign |
| 10:57:54 | flupp | why should I prefer the 3850 (I understand that's the newer model) over the older models ? |
| 10:58:20 | banshee | first of all.. battery won't go dead every 10 minutes.... |
| 10:58:33 | beeblebrox | 16 bit color |
| 10:58:44 | beeblebrox | inbuilt SD card |
| 10:58:53 | flupp | was the older one known for that (batteries) |
| 10:58:58 | flupp | SD = ? |
| 10:59:05 | banshee | yea |
| 10:59:19 | banshee | those little memory cards used by small mp3 players and most digital cameras |
| 10:59:36 | banshee | their only like 2 cm x 2 cm |
| 11:00:36 | flupp | did compaq/hp state to be supporting that platform, too (they did with the older model) |
| 11:00:38 | banshee | same thing as w/ the cf, can get other things for those slots.. only thing i've seen besides storage is a wireless for it, that's if i was reading the ad right it was a sd |
| 11:01:05 | banshee | ? platform? |
| 11:01:11 | banshee | as in.. supporting linux on their ipaq's? |
| 11:01:12 | flupp | well ... |
| 11:01:33 | flupp | some months ago, I remember to have seen |
| 11:01:58 | flupp | that compaq strongly supported the iPAQ for porting to Linux |
| 11:02:10 | flupp | but that was still an older model ... |
| 11:02:33 | flupp | I don't remember the number |
| 11:02:39 | banshee | well.. that's still touchy.. and "strongly supported" ... that's questionable |
| 11:03:00 | flupp | wasn't it like that, then ? |
| 11:03:07 | banshee | they'll restore paperweights caused by mistakes while installing linux on it... |
| 11:03:25 | banshee | but its not like... dial 1-800-compaq and they'll give you handhelds.org's url |
| 11:04:08 | banshee | but their helping more than most OEM's have in a while |
| 11:04:26 | flupp | is there a lot published on linux and the 3850 ? |
| 11:04:45 | banshee | not that much |
| 11:04:52 | banshee | at least, compared to the 36xx and 37xx |
| 11:05:15 | flupp | that's the older models I've just been talking about, I guess ? |
| 11:05:19 | banshee | since its still new, and here at least its $100US more than the 3765 model for the low end 3800 |
| 11:05:58 | flupp | so if hte SD isn't too important to me, |
| 11:06:09 | flupp | and Linux is, I 'd |
| 11:06:21 | banshee | it still one more slot you can fill in it |
| 11:06:23 | flupp | better stick to the older models ? |
| 11:06:38 | banshee | expandiblity is about as limited as w/ a laptop |
| 11:06:52 | flupp | U mean with the older ones ? |
| 11:07:31 | banshee | well, 36xx and 37xx pretty good chance good safe(comparatively) install compared to the 38xx |
| 11:07:31 | beeblebrox | flupp: you can go in for a 37xx now, and maybe upgrade when the next generation is out.. SD cards arent really popular now, and by the time they get, the 38xx will already be old! |
| 11:07:59 | beeblebrox | flupp: but get the 37xx, and not the 36xx |
| 11:08:13 | flupp | OK. |
| 11:08:41 | banshee | 36xx is basically... like.. i586 compared to i686 more or less in actual hardware your getting |
| 11:09:00 | flupp | Thanks, folks. |
| 11:10:26 | flupp | I have to go now, my wife's HUngry :) And if I'm not quick, she'll be Angry ;-) |
| 11:10:38 | flupp | Thanks for the info !!! |
| 11:11:01 | banshee | np, cya |
| 14:04:22 | bipolar_ | is away: I'm not here... Really.... |
| 14:04:35 | bipolar_ | is back (gone 00:00:03) |
| 17:32:18 | flupp | Hello. Someone more familiar than me with linux handhelds out there ? (I already asked some info earlier today, and was already helped a lot, but new questions popped up) |
| 17:38:00 | flupp | No-one ? |
| 17:42:18 | flupp | Too bad |
| 17:59:48 | xav | hi guys ! |
| 18:37:08 | flupp | I'd like to buy a PDA capable of running Linux; the iPAQ is such one. But I remember having read that I'd need a serial craddle for being able to download Linux in it. Is this true ? |
| 20:15:37 | sgodsell_csl | is away: bbl' |
| 21:13:29 | MoD | hello |
| 21:23:19 | MoD | has somone an image to boot linux on cf |
| 22:02:18 | merf | has anyone ever had a problem with the ipaq's stylus not staying in the slot? |
| 23:48:39 | greeno | is away: -> FotR |