13:00:14 | pattieja | is back (gone 35:02:06) |
15:19:21 | | you are totally unimportant |
15:19:21 | mattzz | ibot: mattzz |
15:19:34 | mattzz | ;-) |
15:20:33 | beeblebrox | is away: Away! |
16:29:40 | sjohnson | is away: lunch |
16:41:06 | nikos | is away: errand |
16:48:18 | pattieja | is away: lunch |
17:17:44 | nikos | is back |
17:32:16 | pattieja | is back (gone 00:43:58) |
17:38:46 | sjohnson | is back (gone 01:09:06) |
18:24:27 | | try http://linux-mtd.infradead.org/ |
18:24:27 | nikos | ibot: jffs2 |
18:25:43 | sjohnson | wails, gnashes his terrn, and pulls handsful of hair hair from his head |
18:26:44 | nikos | sjohnson: I'm feeling much the same way today. |
18:39:29 | mattzz | cu |
18:44:32 | sjohnson | nikos: Just go off the phone with a programmer that is virtually clueless about networks. Sometimes I'm dumbfounded that anything at all works. |
18:45:18 | nikos | sjohnson: yes indeedy *nod* |
20:19:44 | sjohnson | Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggh! more teeth gnashing and hair pulling.... |
20:21:13 | nikos | sjohnson: I work out my agression through my legs which I find myself constantly tapping up and down. That and all the squeeze toys I have in the office and the balls I throw at the wall and.... |
20:21:44 | sjohnson | I want my Nerf Chain gun..... |
20:46:12 | Ng | anyone alive? |
20:46:55 | nikos | Ng__: Yes |
20:47:43 | Ng__ | just a quick question, in the familiar install instructions, after booting it says to configure the network, what do I need to do to actually connect the thing to the network? presumably it does that through the USB? |
20:48:13 | nikos | Ng__: Your choice. |
20:48:26 | nikos | Ng__: usbnet, ppp, CF card, PCMCIA card, etc. |
20:49:05 | Ng__ | are there some instructions for setting up usbnet anywhere? |
20:49:12 | | it has been said that usbnet is at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20do%20I%20setup%20USB%20networking |
20:49:12 | nikos | ibot: usbnet |
20:49:18 | Ng__ | lovely :) |
20:49:31 | Ng__ | now I've just got to wait another 20 minutes while the root image uploads ;) |
20:53:02 | Ng__ | does the default root image include tools for doing x/y/z modem transfers? |
21:03:28 | supermario | hi |
21:24:58 | Ng__ | hmm |
21:25:33 | Ng__ | I've just booted linux on the ipaq, loads fine, but if I start any X app with blackbox running it doesn't appear. if I kill blackbox and run something (e.g. rxvt) it appears fine |
21:25:37 | Ng__ | any ideas? :) |
21:35:34 | linmodem | re |
21:35:41 | linmodem | when does the new ipaq come out? |
21:36:05 | sjohnson | By all accounts Oct 4 |
21:36:17 | linmodem | sweet in 4 days |
21:36:20 | linmodem | 3 days |
21:36:21 | linmodem | ;) |
21:36:23 | linmodem | what is it called again? |
21:36:27 | linmodem | what is the numbers on it? |
21:37:03 | linmodem | sjohnson you know? |
21:37:13 | sjohnson | 38xx |
21:37:31 | sjohnson | And a new 37xx model |
21:37:38 | DragonEagle | hey, coo, any specs known yet? |
21:38:18 | linmodem | k, and also--- if i put linux on my ipaq, can i use any pc card that is supported in linux? (I can, right? ) |
21:40:21 | DragonEagle | is away: I need to go lie down for a bit |
21:41:19 | linmodem | sjohnson you got linkage for the new ipaq?s |
21:41:24 | linmodem | because i cannot find them on compaq's page |
21:41:37 | sjohnson | linmodem: I can't the find the article I liked best. |
21:43:31 | linmodem | http://www.mobileplanet.com/product.asp?cat%5Fname=Wireless&cat%5Fid=105&dept%5Fid=1420&pf%5Fid=MP500413&listing=1 <<sweet |
21:43:34 | linmodem | 2gig pccard |
21:43:47 | linmodem | 350$ |
21:43:56 | linmodem | sjohnson any artical is great :) |
21:45:22 | sjohnson | http://www.davescompaqipaq.com/3800.htm |
21:45:38 | sjohnson | Specs and pictures. |
21:46:00 | sjohnson | DragonEagle: http://www.davescompaqipaq.com/3800.htm |
21:46:38 | linmodem | sweet |
21:46:39 | sjohnson | linmodem: Any PC Card linux kernel supports should work in iPAQ except for Card Bus. Ipaq hardware doesn't support it. |
21:47:05 | linmodem | what is cardbus ipaq hardware? |
21:47:06 | linmodem | :) |
21:48:09 | linmodem | sweet |
21:48:12 | linmodem | voice commands |
21:48:14 | sjohnson | Cardbus is to PCI as PCMCIA is to ISA. |
21:48:45 | linmodem | hmm |
21:48:57 | linmodem | you have any clue how much these are going to be? |
21:49:37 | linmodem | 11. Bluetooth Status Indicator <<<sweeett! |
21:49:44 | sjohnson | depend on model $600 to $800 |
21:49:46 | linmodem | built in bluetooth |
21:49:48 | linmodem | oh |
21:49:50 | linmodem | heh |
21:49:57 | linmodem | eyah i htink i will stick with the old ones |
21:49:57 | linmodem | :) |
21:50:16 | linmodem | what is soo great about the new ones? |
21:50:25 | linmodem | besides bluetooth and adding different battery |
21:50:35 | sjohnson | 32 Flash ROM |
21:50:39 | sjohnson | 32MB |
21:50:47 | sjohnson | For PocketPC 2002 |
21:50:50 | linmodem | what was it before? |
21:50:54 | sjohnson | 16MB |
21:51:07 | linmodem | oh.. i see |
21:51:46 | sjohnson | 16MB is enough for full Familiar install and some apps. |
21:51:47 | linmodem | does the old ones have voice commands? |
21:51:59 | sjohnson | 32MB will be Nirvana. :) |
21:52:48 | sjohnson | linmodem: It's all software voice recog. There might be a couple of free packages that would work. But I don't know of any one porting them. |
21:53:05 | linmodem | hmm |
21:55:17 | linmodem | $497 - iPAQ H3670 |
21:55:18 | linmodem | $414 - iPAQ H3650 |
21:55:18 | linmodem | $443 - iPAQ H3635 |
21:55:18 | linmodem | $419 - iPAQ H3630 |
21:55:24 | linmodem | all those good ones? |
21:55:33 | linmodem | what would differ? |
21:55:40 | linmodem | in the 36xx |
21:55:42 | linmodem | hmm |
21:56:47 | sjohnson | 36xx ipaqs are all the same. the different is what is packaged with iPAQ. CF sleeve, etc. |
21:57:27 | linmodem | ahhh ok |
21:57:43 | linmodem | 414$ good price though for 3650? |
21:58:45 | sjohnson | Actually I'm wrong the 3670 has 65 MB of memory the rest have 32MB |
21:58:58 | linmodem | ohh |
21:59:38 | linmodem | are ipaqs a lot better than jornados? |
22:00:06 | sjohnson | $415 is a good price. You don't know want to know now much I paid for mine back when they were scarce. |
22:00:16 | linmodem | heh |
22:01:02 | sjohnson | The current models are more less the same. The old Jornada had ROM and not FLASH coun't upgrad the OS. |
23:35:16 | | EGg0: excuse me? |
23:35:16 | EGg0 | ibot EGg0 |
23:35:23 | | EGg0 was last seen on #ipaq 0 seconds ago, saying: ibot seen EGg0 [Tue Oct 2 00:35:23 2001] |
23:35:23 | EGg0 | ibot seen EGg0 |
23:49:27 | | EGg0: i'm not following you... |
23:49:27 | EGg0 | ibot, will you follow me anywhere |