| 02:55:16 | cdm|qnx| | evening. |
| 16:58:03 | boodle | is away: lunch |
| 17:17:21 | boodle | is back (gone 00:19:15) |
| 21:12:04 | Guest38760 | please can someone help me |
| 21:12:14 | nikos | We can try, what's up? |
| 21:12:30 | Guest38760 | have u installed linux on ur iPAQ? |
| 21:13:03 | nikos | Yes. |
| 21:13:19 | Guest38760 | do you know when you have to pick between 32mb rom and 16mb rom |
| 21:13:32 | Guest38760 | does that mean betwen the 16mb models and 32mb mmodels |
| 21:13:39 | Guest38760 | or the 32mb models and the 64mb models? |
| 21:14:07 | Guest38760 | i have the 32 mb iPAQ with 32mb RAM/ROM |
| 21:14:15 | Guest38760 | and i picked the 32mb rom package to install |
| 21:14:18 | Guest38760 | is that ok? |
| 21:14:37 | nikos | What are you talking about? Where are you picking this from? |
| 21:15:36 | Guest38760 | its the media.large.cramfs for the 32mb model? |
| 21:15:36 | nikos | Guest38760: URL? |
| 21:15:48 | nikos | Guest38760: What linux distribution are you looking at? |
| 21:15:54 | Guest38760 | pocketlinux.com |
| 21:16:02 | Guest38760 | its the media.large.cramfs for the 32mb model? |
| 21:16:07 | nikos | I'm sorry I can't help with PocketLinux. |
| 21:17:21 | Guest38760 | y not? |
| 21:17:52 | nikos | Most of us here work with Familiar Distribution. Someone may be able to help, but I don't know anything about PocketLinux. |
| 21:17:53 | Guest38760 | r u nikos@handhelds.org |
| 21:17:55 | Guest38760 | ? |
| 21:17:59 | nikos | Yes. |
| 21:18:23 | Guest38760 | well then can you please tell me the default login and password for my pocketpc (linux) when i try to log on with my serial connection |
| 21:18:29 | Guest38760 | cause it asks for for passwrd |
| 21:18:52 | Guest38760 | and the amnual says its like set to defualt "Pocket" but i cant get in with hyperterminal |
| 21:18:55 | edwardam | Guest38760: there are 32MB and 16 MB models of the ipaq (FLASH RAM) |
| 21:18:58 | Guest38760 | cause i need login and pasword |
| 21:19:06 | Guest38760 | and 64 no? |
| 21:19:18 | edwardam | Guest38760: There are two types o RAM |
| 21:19:30 | edwardam | Guest38760: Flash RAM (Storage) and RAM (Regular run of the mill RAM) |
| 21:19:39 | nikos | s/RAM/ROM |
| 21:19:42 | nikos | Flash ROM |
| 21:19:43 | Guest38760 | http://www.compaq.com/products/handhelds/pocketpc/h3670b.shtml |
| 21:19:54 | edwardam | Guest38760: Some early models of the ipaq came with 32 MB of FLASH ROM (thank you nikos) |
| 21:20:12 | edwardam | Guest38760: If you recently bought your ipaq ... then you probably have a 16 MB ROM model |
| 21:20:33 | nikos | Guest38760: the 3670 comes with 64MB of RAM, but still on 16MB of FlashROM. |
| 21:20:45 | edwardam | Guest38760: THere are two models of IPAQs (RAM wise) 32 MB Models and 64 MB Models (if we are only talking about color units) |
| 21:21:04 | nikos | Guest38760: To my knowledge you aren't GUARRANTEED to get more than 16MB of FlashROM on any model. It just happens sometimes, although rare now. |
| 21:21:07 | edwardam | Guest38760: As nikos pointed out both of those models have only 16 MB of ROM officially ... |
| 21:21:41 | nikos | s/on/only/ (second statement above) |
| 21:21:55 | edwardam | Guest38760: You are using PocketLinux right> |
| 21:22:11 | nikos | s/>/?/ |
| 21:22:17 | Guest38760 | yeah |
| 21:22:39 | Guest38760 | pocketlinux |
| 21:22:44 | edwardam | Guest38760: try ... guest ... then su to root |
| 21:22:58 | Guest38760 | su to root? |
| 21:23:02 | edwardam | Guest38760: That is our old scheme from the older hh.org distro .... |
| 21:23:09 | edwardam | Guest38760: just try to login as 'guest' |
| 21:23:21 | edwardam | Guest38760: do you get in? |
| 21:23:55 | Guest38760 | yeah |
| 21:23:56 | Guest38760 | i got in |
| 21:24:40 | edwardam | now type 'su' |
| 21:24:48 | Guest38760 | ok |
| 21:24:49 | edwardam | Guest38760: that should make you root (lord of everything) |
| 21:25:26 | Guest38760 | yeah |
| 21:25:29 | Guest38760 | i think so |
| 21:25:34 | Guest38760 | new with linux firdst itme using |
| 21:25:35 | Guest38760 | lol |
| 21:25:38 | Guest38760 | thanks allot |
| 21:25:47 | nikos | thanks edwardam |
| 21:26:30 | edwardam | Guest38760: try out familiar at some point. That's what we all work on (check out the #handhelds.org channel) |
| 21:26:51 | Guest38760 | ok |
| 21:26:52 | Guest38760 | thanks |
| 21:27:09 | Guest38760 | and one last question how do i trun of my iPAQ when it has linux on it? |
| 21:27:35 | edwardam | Guest38760: sure fire way |
| 21:27:49 | edwardam | Guest38760: is to flip the switch on the bottom ... WHICH REALLY TURNS OFF THE MACHINE ... but.... |
| 21:28:00 | edwardam | Guest38760: this will erase everything in RAM... |
| 21:28:20 | edwardam | Guest38760: familiar on the otherhand can be put to sleep via the power button....It's still on ... only asleep... |
| 21:28:31 | edwardam | Guest38760: With PocketLinux ... I'm not sure ... You'lll |
| 21:28:35 | edwardam | have to ask them |
| 21:28:59 | Guest38760 | cause i try the power button on the top the normal one i use for windows but it still stays on |
| 21:29:10 | Guest38760 | do u know how i can activate a word processor? |
| 21:31:00 | edwardam | Guest38760: In Pocket Linux I have no idea ... Ask them ... (sorry) |
| 22:29:56 | mea | ok is there a difference inbetween istalling linux and pocketlinux on your ipaq? |
| 22:30:20 | edwardam | mea: yes |
| 22:30:23 | mea | ??? |
| 22:30:26 | mea | what is that? |
| 22:31:15 | edwardam | PocketLinux is a Java VM on top of an old handhelds.org linux distro for the ipaq ... they use a proprietary GUI written in java that isn't very portable ... |
| 22:31:26 | edwardam | mea: On the other hand .... |
| 22:31:30 | mea | ok how do i uninstall pocketlinux? |
| 22:32:11 | edwardam | mea: There is Familiar ... a debian based linux distrobution that has X .. network suport (I guess PocketLinux does as well) ... supports Java, Python, TCL/TK .. X . C .. C++ .. .etc... etc...etc... |
| 22:32:23 | edwardam | mea: Humm don't know ... I would follow the Familiar install instructions ... |
| 22:32:32 | | familiar is a Linux distibution for handhelds, at http://familiar.handhelds.org |
| 22:32:32 | mea | familiar? |
| 22:32:50 | edwardam | see :-) |
| 22:33:07 | mea | where are they? |
| 22:33:24 | edwardam | whey what? |
| 22:33:27 | | somebody said familiar was a Linux distibution for handhelds, at http://familiar.handhelds.org |
| 22:33:27 | edwardam | familiar? |
| 22:33:43 | edwardam | oh ... they ... |
| 22:33:57 | edwardam | nevermind ... What was your question |
| 22:35:24 | Guest38760 | so what do i do with this "familiar project" |
| 22:35:27 | Guest38760 | sry really new at this |
| 22:35:35 | edwardam | Guest38760: install it :-) |
| 22:35:52 | edwardam | Guest38760: go to http://www.familiar.handhelds.org and follow the install guide ... |
| 22:35:57 | edwardam | same goes for you mea |
| 22:36:16 | Guest38760 | i am mea |
| 22:36:20 | Guest38760 | just on different computer |
| 22:36:37 | edwardam | oh |
| 22:36:39 | edwardam | :-) |
| 22:37:32 | Guest38760 | damnit |
| 22:37:44 | Guest38760 | but i cant access andy filemanager on pocketlinux |
| 22:37:49 | Guest38760 | how do i start bootldr |
| 22:37:53 | edwardam | Guest38760: you don't need to ... |
| 22:38:05 | edwardam | Guest38760: just restart (reset via the little hole) the ipaq |
| 22:38:10 | Guest38760 | yeah |
| 22:38:14 | Guest38760 | the parrot thingy right?> |
| 22:38:19 | Guest38760 | i cant it starts linux |
| 22:38:23 | Guest38760 | and hard restet to |
| 22:39:04 | Guest38760 | how do i uninstall it? |
| 22:39:39 | edwardam | Guest38760: I think you need to hook it up to a serial port ... use a terminal program to get it and then hit a space bar to stop the bootloader from loading linux |
| 22:40:37 | Guest38760 | ok |
| 22:40:39 | Guest38760 | let me try |
| 22:40:52 | edwardam | s/it/in/ |
| 22:42:46 | mea | ok im in the bootldr thingy |
| 22:42:48 | mea | now wha? |
| 22:44:11 | edwardam | follow the instructions at http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.4/install/H3600/install.html |
| 22:44:21 | edwardam | You will probably need to upgade your bootloader |
| 22:44:38 | | yes, edwardam? |
| 22:44:38 | edwardam | ibot |
| 22:46:00 | | i already had it that way, edwardam. |
| 22:46:00 | edwardam | The Familiar Install Guide is at http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.4/install/H3600/install.html |
| 22:46:13 | | it has been said that Familiar Install Guide is at http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.4/install/H3600/install.html |
| 22:46:13 | edwardam | Familiar Install Guide? |
| 22:46:17 | edwardam | ah... good |
| 22:46:42 | | :) |
| 22:46:42 | edwardam | ibot: your a good bot. Wanna bot snack? |
| 22:46:54 | Guest38760 | lol |
| 22:50:54 | mea | hey what do i do if i want windows back/ |
| 22:50:56 | mea | ? |
| 22:51:32 | a7r | mea: You saved your WinCE images, right? |
| 22:51:38 | mea | yeah |
| 22:53:12 | mea | so... |
| 22:53:27 | mea | ? |
| 22:53:28 | a7r | http://www.handhelds.org for more information. |
| 22:53:37 | mea | ahh man |
| 22:53:42 | mea | i cant understand anything there |
| 22:53:43 | mea | lol |
| 23:04:44 | mea | help |
| 23:04:44 | mea | ! |
| 23:04:47 | mea | please i need help |
| 23:04:53 | mea | ipaq is dead |
| 23:04:58 | mea | last OS was pocketlinux |
| 23:05:03 | mea | now all i got is bootldr |
| 23:05:06 | mea | please help |
| 23:05:26 | mea | how do i restore widows? |
| 23:06:59 | a7r | your iPAQ isn't dead. |
| 23:07:08 | a7r | Check out handhelds.org for the howto on WindowsCE restoration. |
| 23:07:56 | boodle | http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/Can%20I%20Reinstall%20WindowsCE%20on%20My%20Handheld%20Later |
| 23:08:04 | boodle | mea: that's a link to restoration of ce |