| 00:01.34 | reactor16 | company made those test point, they should provide complete solution to thier shit |
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| 00:04.36 | jonpry | i dunno. you bought it :p |
| 00:04.52 | jonpry | and really once you have the test points it's almost useless |
| 00:05.25 | jonpry | without all the qualcomm information required to turn off the memory protection and be able to write the memory |
| 00:19.50 | reactor16 | jonpry, you have service manual for htc desire ? |
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| 20:22.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: heya |
| 20:23.30 | Cotulla | hey Alexx |
| 20:23.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: how goes it? |
| 20:24.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | I've got the bachelor's diploma. Freepk told me you've also finished studies? |
| 20:26.46 | Cotulla | and? |
| 20:27.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | nothing, just asking. is asking real-life questions prohibited on the internetz?)) |
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| 20:28.10 | Cotulla | yea |
| 20:28.26 | Cotulla | for this chat I am dark lord the king of lalala and nothing more |
| 20:28.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: btw, I've got Xperia Z (apq8064) and an omap5 development board. I think you should go for Samsung Galaxy IV for hacking. It is A15 -> has virtualization |
| 20:28.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | OTOH, samsung is ugly |
| 20:28.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | xperia looks sexy |
| 20:29.36 | jonpry | apq8064 has trustzone virtualization stuff |
| 20:30.07 | detule | galaxy s4 lte-a |
| 20:30.09 | Cotulla | hi jonpry |
| 20:30.13 | detule | that's what we need |
| 20:30.15 | Cotulla | hi detule |
| 20:30.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: trustzone != virtualization extensions. do you think one can gain access to TZ on an msm? |
| 20:30.21 | detule | too bad we're not in south korea |
| 20:30.26 | Cotulla | I need to check if u are still humans |
| 20:30.28 | Cotulla | 2 + 2 = ? |
| 20:30.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | 5! |
| 20:30.33 | jonpry | 3 |
| 20:30.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | we're in russia |
| 20:30.34 | Cotulla | right |
| 20:30.46 | Cotulla | humans make errors in 143% cases |
| 20:30.48 | detule | 5! = 120 |
| 20:30.51 | jonpry | Alex[sp3dev], it has been done on at least one phone |
| 20:31.15 | jonpry | hi detule |
| 20:31.21 | jonpry | i broke the n4 :( |
| 20:31.47 | Marc | you broke the n4? -.- |
| 20:31.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: which one? sorry, I have not been following msm for a long time and don't know the security model. I thought all 'secure' stuff is signed? |
| 20:31.53 | detule | did you dd over something you shouldn't have? |
| 20:32.13 | jonpry | no i busted the glass |
| 20:32.19 | jonpry | physical breakage |
| 20:32.45 | jonpry | http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html |
| 20:33.09 | jonpry | apparently the exploit is motorola specific |
| 20:33.34 | detule | damn you couldn't wait a few months til s800 made it to noth america |
| 20:34.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: yea, that article is amazing, but my point is that with A7/A15 extensions you can have virtualization without exploits - i.e., deliver to every user, and use in business |
| 20:35.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | maybe a good thing is to have a popular phone for daily usage and public hacking and a development board for prototyping and planning for future? |
| 20:37.01 | jonpry | i see your point |
| 20:37.27 | Cotulla | how is Q6 boat owner? |
| 20:37.33 | Cotulla | how is boat btw? |
| 20:37.50 | Cotulla | does fish got a new comfortable house already? :D |
| 20:38.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | since we can run custom code on hexagons and on Cortex M3/M4 in omap4/5, do you have ideas for use cases? One idea I have is moving RIL to an M3 for both security and power saving |
| 20:38.51 | jonpry | lol |
| 20:39.14 | jonpry | boat is working good |
| 20:39.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | I hate android and CM10.1. It is stupid that the camera can take shots when you say "cheese" but needs internet for speech recognition |
| 20:40.35 | jonpry | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoEZXR6dj5Q |
| 20:41.20 | jonpry | Alex[sp3dev], i think we need a way to keep audio functional while running software on Q6 |
| 20:43.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: for xperia, we would first need to run SW on Q6. reverse-engineering q6 FW doesn't seem nice. Hmm, what about the haret-style mmu tracing and comparing to msm7200a code? |
| 20:44.47 | detule | how about ril on daytona or whatever the arm7 core on MSM is that is supposed to be handling sensors or something |
| 20:44.58 | jonpry | or riva |
| 20:45.08 | jonpry | since nobody uses that |
| 20:45.52 | jonpry | i dunno about Q6 on xperia. msm7k Q6's aren't supported by the toolchain |
| 20:46.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | msm7k has q5 iirc. I'm talking about Xperia Z which is APQ8064 but seems to have signed firmware |
| 20:46.41 | jonpry | ah |
| 20:47.12 | jonpry | signed firmware can be ok as long as TZ isn't protecting the Q6 boot registers |
| 20:49.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | okay, we'll see where it goes. For now, I'll be playing with virtualization on omap5 and the genode framework os later, but will follow you guys if you do anything msm-related |
| 20:49.36 | detule | oh yeah riva (ARM9?) we have a broadcom card in s3 definitely not using that, did you try running any code on that? |
| 20:51.27 | jonpry | yours can boot the thing |
| 20:51.33 | jonpry | not protected |
| 20:55.27 | detule | i wonder if it's possible to tinker with the RIL on anything otther than AP -> isn't it tied to the shared memory driver and all these interupts back and forth between the modem and the AP |
| 20:55.45 | Cotulla | trolled? |
| 20:57.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | detule: originally I was speaking about omap4, and there Cortex M3 cores have the access to the same memory and IRQs as the A9 |
| 20:58.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | who sets up the memory permissions on the msm? the arm9 or the arm11 in TZ? |
| 20:59.00 | jonpry | on 8064 is seems that arm11 TZ code sets up XPU |
| 20:59.33 | Cotulla | jonpry, so u are not going to make fishes happy? |
| 21:00.02 | jonpry | not for awhile |
| 21:00.16 | Cotulla | ;) |
| 21:00.25 | Cotulla | so did u push our Q6 work to upstream? |
| 21:00.42 | jonpry | no they changed so much stuff |
| 21:01.44 | Cotulla | heh |
| 21:01.48 | detule | if i were to pick a project for the #htc-linux braintrust I would get you all thinking about porting android to iphones .... close source it Cotulla-style/get rich/retire early |
| 21:01.58 | Cotulla | whyy? |
| 21:02.20 | Cotulla | well |
| 21:02.21 | fakker | because it's a challenge |
| 21:02.24 | Cotulla | new iPhones are not hacked |
| 21:02.24 | fakker | and i bet you can't doi t! |
| 21:02.27 | Cotulla | lol yea fakker |
| 21:02.28 | Cotulla | FAKKER |
| 21:02.28 | Cotulla | :D |
| 21:02.30 | Cotulla | how are u? |
| 21:02.36 | jonpry | it could be super hard |
| 21:02.39 | fakker | not bad thanks, you? |
| 21:02.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | iphones even have worse hardware. and iOS is better. but jailbreaking new iOS is a worthwile goal :)) |
| 21:02.50 | jonpry | they use a normal gpu in that thing? |
| 21:02.57 | detule | there's some work already done on an open source bootloader for iphones |
| 21:03.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: PVR i think |
| 21:03.42 | detule | we'll revisit this topic when apple finally migrates to qcom soc |
| 21:03.59 | Cotulla | detule, only for old iPhones? |
| 21:04.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | what about using A15 and KVM/QEMU to emulate iPhone or M$ Device Emulator and run iOS or Windows CE on android?) |
| 21:04.08 | fakker | 3gs? |
| 21:04.12 | Cotulla | fuuu |
| 21:04.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: fuuu to what? |
| 21:04.48 | Cotulla | fakker3gs? |
| 21:05.14 | Cotulla | well I sucessfully runned Darwin kernel on LEO and restore ramdisk user space |
| 21:05.27 | Cotulla | but then I abandoned that |
| 21:05.30 | fakker | you gotta let Leo go |
| 21:05.32 | fakker | it's old |
| 21:05.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: so you ported Darwin to ARM? |
| 21:06.00 | Cotulla | iOS 4.3 |
| 21:06.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | or is there a tree with ARM support available? |
| 21:06.42 | Cotulla | I don't care Cotulla grab kernel cache -> Cotulla runs kernel cache |
| 21:06.47 | Cotulla | *grabs |
| 21:07.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | nice |
| 21:08.01 | jonpry | cotulla doesn't need source. he has winhex |
| 21:08.29 | Cotulla | http://cotulla.pp.ru/z/IMAG0494.jpg |
| 21:08.30 | Cotulla | http://cotulla.pp.ru/z/IMAG0528.jpg |
| 21:08.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | winhex is ways better than any hex editor out there. there's no decent hex editor for linux. period |
| 21:08.54 | fakker | fake Cotulla |
| 21:08.57 | fakker | photoshop |
| 21:08.57 | Cotulla | yea |
| 21:08.58 | Cotulla | fake one |
| 21:09.03 | Cotulla | made for fakker |
| 21:09.06 | fakker | says T-MOBILE |
| 21:09.08 | Cotulla | S P E C I A L L Y |
| 21:09.10 | fakker | must be fake |
| 21:09.26 | fakker | there's no tmobile leo |
| 21:09.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | I accidentally iOS :P |
| 21:09.43 | Cotulla | shit fakker |
| 21:09.48 | Cotulla | u are too smart :( |
| 21:09.53 | Cotulla | :D |
| 21:09.54 | fakker | i know, i can't help |
| 21:10.17 | fakker | what phone are you using now? |
| 21:10.21 | fakker | One? |
| 21:10.37 | fakker | 1)ne |
| 21:12.44 | Cotulla | me |
| 21:12.59 | Cotulla | http://savok.name/uploads/telefon/24.jpg |
| 21:13.02 | Cotulla | this one |
| 21:13.17 | Cotulla | I am sure at 100% ur hand never touched such one |
| 21:13.25 | Cotulla | jonpry do u? |
| 21:13.31 | fakker | i have hah |
| 21:13.34 | fakker | im older than you |
| 21:13.36 | jonpry | i had one of those |
| 21:13.47 | Cotulla | do u have a photo? |
| 21:14.25 | jonpry | no digital cameras back then |
| 21:14.30 | fakker | camera didnt exist |
| 21:14.32 | fakker | hah |
| 21:14.34 | fakker | ^ |
| 21:15.11 | jonpry | u remember when touch tone phones had a switch to pulse dial? |
| 21:15.25 | fakker | yep |
| 21:15.34 | detule | i remember when we upgraded from "atdp" to "atdt" |
| 21:16.09 | jonpry | oh wow pulse modem |
| 21:16.29 | fakker | how old are you two? |
| 21:16.35 | jonpry | what kind of baud was that? |
| 21:16.44 | Cotulla | 19200 |
| 21:16.48 | Cotulla | ûãêó |
| 21:16.49 | Cotulla | sure |
| 21:16.50 | detule | Boca 14.4K |
| 21:16.56 | Cotulla | pfff |
| 21:17.03 | Cotulla | u broke my modem detule! |
| 21:17.15 | Cotulla | how u could . . . |
| 21:17.36 | detule | i am not that old but where I grew up technology is/was a bit behind |
| 21:17.47 | fakker | iowa? |
| 21:17.52 | detule | LOL |
| 21:17.52 | fakker | :D |
| 21:18.23 | jonpry | probably new jersey |
| 21:20.10 | detule | 21.4 E longitude , somewhere along there |
| 21:21.54 | Cotulla | so u got Q6 kernel on APQ8064 jonpry? |
| 21:23.12 | jonpry | nope |
| 21:23.28 | jonpry | qcom is too strong for me |
| 21:30.06 | Cotulla | lol I twitted those old pictures |
| 21:30.13 | Cotulla | lol |
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| 21:30.26 | Cotulla | lol I twitted those pictures |
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| 21:33.25 | fakker | no you didn't |
| 21:33.27 | fakker | you tweeted |
| 21:33.30 | fakker | n00b |
| 21:33.51 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 21:33.53 | Cotulla | I am proud |
| 21:33.56 | Cotulla | of n00bness |
| 21:33.59 | Cotulla | are u too? |
| 21:34.07 | fakker | yes, so much so i even call myself noob |
| 21:34.14 | fakker | like calling myself God |
| 21:35.52 | Cotulla | oh yea I need a new bike. my god. send it to me from heaven. oh yea! |
| 21:36.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | nigga stole your bike? |
| 21:36.45 | fakker | Cotulla, which bike would you like? |
| 21:37.02 | Nikez | Hello |
| 21:37.22 | Cotulla | nigga? where is ur tolerance? |
| 21:37.34 | Cotulla | oh yea he is from soviet russia |
| 21:37.38 | fakker | :D |
| 21:37.44 | Cotulla | THERE IS NO NIGGAS IN SOVIET RUSSIA |
| 21:37.51 | Nikez | wat |
| 21:38.00 | Cotulla | Nikez, is it? |
| 21:38.05 | Nikez | I saw a couple |
| 21:38.07 | fakker | i don't blame them though - who wants to go Soviet Russia? |
| 21:38.11 | Nikez | Riding polar bears n shiet |
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| 21:38.17 | Cotulla | did u visit soviet russia at least once? |
| 21:38.25 | Nikez | Of course, for mother russia. |
| 21:38.32 | Cotulla | in RA2? |
| 21:38.40 | Nikez | RA2? wat |
| 21:38.51 | fakker | rocket arena |
| 21:38.56 | fakker | i prefer ra3 |
| 21:39.00 | Cotulla | lol |
| 21:39.05 | Cotulla | Red Alert 2 |
| 21:39.06 | Nikez | Nigga, I'm lost. |
| 21:39.13 | Cotulla | hm |
| 21:39.14 | fakker | relax with the N bomb |
| 21:39.17 | Cotulla | sounds like . . . |
| 21:39.39 | Cotulla | well it's not Alex |
| 21:39.44 | Cotulla | but probably somebody else |
| 21:39.54 | Nikez | Meh. It's only offensive if you use it offensively. I mean no harm. |
| 21:40.02 | Nikez | I blame Snoop Lion's AMA on Reddit today. |
| 21:40.11 | Cotulla | probably |
| 21:40.27 | Cotulla | everything can be offensive |
| 21:40.32 | Cotulla | in our poor word |
| 21:40.34 | Nikez | YOUR CHAIR!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:40.39 | Cotulla | Cherry? |
| 21:40.47 | Nikez | Chair. 4 legs. |
| 21:40.47 | fakker | minecraft |
| 21:40.57 | Cotulla | 4 legs and wood for ass? |
| 21:41.00 | Nikez | shit, you just dropped the m-word |
| 21:41.08 | Cotulla | wtf |
| 21:41.09 | Nikez | TAKE IT EASY |
| 21:41.17 | Nikez | or I will minecraft your ass. |
| 21:41.17 | Cotulla | take what? :O |
| 21:41.21 | Cotulla | LOLK |
| 21:41.24 | Cotulla | fakker detected? |
| 21:41.28 | fakker | creeper |
| 21:41.47 | Nikez | shit, u on to me |
| 21:42.01 | Nikez | I blame Marc. |
| 21:42.19 | fakker | another German? |
| 21:42.23 | Nikez | Y U NO WORK |
| 21:42.38 | Nikez | Yeah |
| 21:42.52 | fakker | damn |
| 21:42.55 | Nikez | Cotulla, got any clue on Nexus One's phys addr for flashlight? |
| 21:43.32 | Nikez | tried w/ Leo's, but no succes or it didnt even reach Kernel entry point.. |
| 21:43.40 | Cotulla | look in linux kernel GPIO number |
| 21:43.44 | Cotulla | and calc offset from GPIO base |
| 21:44.31 | Nikez | Right. Let's see.. |
| 21:45.33 | Nikez | Torch or flashlight.. that is the question :p |
| 21:45.55 | Cotulla | better vibro |
| 21:45.56 | Cotulla | I think |
| 21:46.26 | fakker | cuz you can put it on ya balls |
| 21:46.31 | fakker | bzzzzzz |
| 21:46.33 | Nikez | Wouldn't it be too close to the initial vibro when it flashed the kernel? |
| 21:47.06 | Cotulla | same as flash light I think? if they are both GPIO |
| 21:47.35 | Nikez | #define MAHIMAHI_GPIO_VIBRATOR_ON89 |
| 21:47.40 | Nikez | so, should be GPIO |
| 21:48.03 | Cotulla | yes |
| 21:50.25 | Nikez | hmm, i think I need to find my old notes |
| 21:50.35 | Nikez | I forgot how to calculate offset |
| 21:50.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: did you take part in the black celebration? http://bit.ly/121Dci1 |
| 21:50.43 | Nikez | i remember how to do it in page table iirc |
| 21:51.43 | Cotulla | Alex, not really. |
| 21:51.51 | Cotulla | Actually I realize that I like old DM |
| 21:51.56 | Cotulla | in 80-91) |
| 21:52.23 | Cotulla | I don't feel the same from modern performances as well albums |
| 21:52.24 | Cotulla | :( |
| 21:52.49 | Cotulla | Primary I am listening a lot of 80s music nowdays |
| 21:52.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | I didn't like the 2010 album, and the 2013 (delta machine) suck except for the song "broken" |
| 21:53.11 | Cotulla | yea |
| 21:53.18 | Cotulla | and I saw a video |
| 21:53.35 | Cotulla | how they performed some old songs - I didn't feel energy somehow |
| 21:53.38 | Cotulla | let me find |
| 21:53.40 | *** part/#htc-linux Cotulla (~myfakemai@109.205.252.207) |
| 21:53.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | but luckily they even played a question of time and many old singles.too bad they didn't play strangelove |
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| 21:53.47 | Cotulla | wrong button |
| 21:53.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | ffuu |
| 21:53.53 | Cotulla | ? |
| 21:53.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, i repeat for you: "but luckily they even played a question of time and many old singles.too bad they didn't play strangelove" |
| 21:54.21 | Cotulla | yea |
| 21:54.27 | Cotulla | but modern electronic sound. . . |
| 21:54.45 | Cotulla | let me find this video |
| 21:55.20 | Cotulla | did u visit this performace in Moscow? |
| 21:55.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | yep |
| 21:56.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | I want to go to SPB in summer, but got a lot of stuff to do IRL in July |
| 21:57.38 | Cotulla | it's already summer |
| 21:58.29 | Cotulla | and they never played Love In Itself again |
| 21:59.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: I've got an cool idea. How about making it that in order to unlock a feature in bootloader, one would have to play some song on a USB Midi keyboard? |
| 22:00.00 | Cotulla | lol I thought about that |
| 22:00.38 | Cotulla | too hard for the most |
| 22:00.45 | arrrghhh | wow. could you imagine the forum posts instructing people on how to do it? bwhahaha |
| 22:01.01 | Cotulla | press the 33th black key then 27th |
| 22:01.03 | Cotulla | but do that fast |
| 22:01.11 | Cotulla | otherwise timer resets |
| 22:01.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: you could sell dongles that would emulate a midi keyboard |
| 22:01.18 | Cotulla | lol arrrghhh still arrrghhh? |
| 22:01.20 | arrrghhh | and device locks forever |
| 22:01.25 | arrrghhh | I'm always arrrghhh Cotulla |
| 22:01.35 | Cotulla | I still think about dog inside box |
| 22:01.37 | Cotulla | somehow |
| 22:01.38 | arrrghhh | You're going to test me with trivia |
| 22:01.40 | Cotulla | I am sory |
| 22:01.42 | arrrghhh | about my mini-truck probably |
| 22:01.47 | Cotulla | oh yea |
| 22:01.51 | Cotulla | how is ur truck? |
| 22:01.54 | arrrghhh | it's good |
| 22:02.17 | Cotulla | is it good house for hedgehogs in the nearest forest? |
| 22:02.21 | Cotulla | :D |
| 22:02.26 | Nikez | oh fuck, arrrghhh |
| 22:02.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: my congratulations in achieving the beard density higher than mine |
| 22:02.35 | Nikez | *poof* is gone |
| 22:02.39 | arrrghhh | Nikez, you're in mah house now, biatch |
| 22:02.46 | Cotulla | who is Nikez? |
| 22:02.52 | Nikez | I will fuck you up arrrghhh! |
| 22:02.53 | arrrghhh | some guy |
| 22:02.56 | Cotulla | is it new clockpro? |
| 22:03.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | cockpoo? |
| 22:03.01 | arrrghhh | cockpoo? |
| 22:03.02 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:03.03 | Cotulla | ahahaha |
| 22:03.05 | Cotulla | ahahaaa |
| 22:03.08 | Nikez | some guy huh |
| 22:03.13 | Cotulla | yea |
| 22:03.15 | Cotulla | who are u? |
| 22:03.23 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], sometimes I get higher beard density. Sometimes lower. |
| 22:03.23 | Nikez | cockpoo |
| 22:03.24 | Nikez | I think |
| 22:03.46 | Cotulla | not pro? |
| 22:03.56 | Nikez | Cotulla: No but on a more serious note, I'm working with Marc on Leo/Desire |
| 22:04.05 | Nikez | 3.0.16~ |
| 22:04.07 | Cotulla | oh |
| 22:04.11 | Cotulla | so u are not that troll |
| 22:04.13 | Cotulla | nice |
| 22:04.17 | Cotulla | I thought u are |
| 22:04.18 | Nikez | and I am a member of Evervolv |
| 22:04.18 | Cotulla | sorry |
| 22:04.21 | Cotulla | I didn't want |
| 22:04.31 | Nikez | l33thax0r-skillz |
| 22:04.38 | Cotulla | haha |
| 22:04.48 | Nikez | Joking. I have like 4 weeks of kernel development under my belt.. |
| 22:04.54 | Cotulla | not bad |
| 22:04.58 | Nikez | android is another story.. :p |
| 22:05.34 | Nikez | and the reason why I asked you for the n1 phys addr is because I am working on getting it up |
| 22:05.54 | Nikez | but it aint even going past HTC screen.. And I tried w/ the Flashlight-test with no flashlight. |
| 22:05.55 | Cotulla | nice |
| 22:06.10 | Cotulla | the main problem in MMU on |
| 22:06.14 | Cotulla | u need to setup debug mapping |
| 22:06.38 | Nikez | I find it strange tho, basically just a copy of Bravo (which I have up n running) |
| 22:06.55 | Nikez | Well not a copy per say, but meh you get the point. |
| 22:07.46 | Nikez | so arrrghhh you can suck it |
| 22:07.56 | Cotulla | why he should suck a copy of ur MMU? |
| 22:08.01 | Cotulla | it's not clear for me . . . |
| 22:08.04 | Nikez | He likes it |
| 22:08.05 | Nikez | :( |
| 22:08.08 | Cotulla | shit |
| 22:08.09 | Nikez | I don't know why |
| 22:08.10 | Cotulla | MMU pervets |
| 22:08.13 | Nikez | It's filthy. |
| 22:08.18 | Nikez | Haven't been washed. |
| 22:08.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | I'm a shove my PTE up your MMU |
| 22:08.35 | arrrghhh | it is yours Nikez |
| 22:08.43 | arrrghhh | that pretty much implies filthy, unwashed |
| 22:08.56 | Cotulla | fuu |
| 22:08.57 | Cotulla | pervets |
| 22:09.13 | arrrghhh | pre-vets? |
| 22:09.16 | Nikez | Watch your tongue, arrrghhh you bitch. |
| 22:09.21 | Nikez | pre-emptive bitches |
| 22:09.35 | Cotulla | THIS CHANNEL IS BLOATED BY PERVETS |
| 22:09.37 | Nikez | or I will semaphore your dirty beard |
| 22:09.47 | Cotulla | why not use mutex? |
| 22:09.47 | Nikez | MIGHT EVEN TOSS IN A MUTEX |
| 22:09.49 | arrrghhh | Nikez, not mah fault you don't shower |
| 22:09.50 | Nikez | FOR THE HELL OF IT |
| 22:09.52 | Cotulla | lol |
| 22:09.54 | Cotulla | hell mutex |
| 22:09.59 | Cotulla | hold it and world is dead |
| 22:10.05 | Nikez | ^ deadlock inc |
| 22:10.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | deadcock |
| 22:10.26 | Nikez | cockpoo deadcocks you all |
| 22:10.52 | Nikez | On a more serious note, Cotulla you need to step into the game. We needz helpz0r |
| 22:11.01 | Cotulla | into which game? |
| 22:11.10 | Nikez | 3.0.16 on qsd8k |
| 22:11.20 | Nikez | PM is a whore too |
| 22:11.22 | Cotulla | but was it working already? |
| 22:11.27 | Nikez | It's up and running sure |
| 22:11.29 | Cotulla | I remember I ported something |
| 22:11.39 | Nikez | but PM is being a filthy whore and keeps freezes. |
| 22:12.13 | Nikez | I've seen a couple of "// Cotulla fix"s in marc's source code |
| 22:12.43 | Nikez | arrrghhh: did you solve ril? |
| 22:13.12 | Cotulla | PM? |
| 22:13.16 | arrrghhh | nah I haven't come back to ev |
| 22:13.20 | Nikez | power management |
| 22:13.28 | Nikez | u a cm whore arrrghhh? |
| 22:13.31 | arrrghhh | it works |
| 22:13.34 | arrrghhh | so I guess |
| 22:13.48 | Nikez | bloated plz |
| 22:14.17 | arrrghhh | well I don't run CM. but yea, cm related poo |
| 22:14.18 | Cotulla | not working? |
| 22:14.36 | Nikez | huh Cotulla |
| 22:14.40 | arrrghhh | what's funny, is I see the keyboard commits from CM in EV.... |
| 22:15.14 | Nikez | Which ones? |
| 22:17.00 | Cotulla | what's up? |
| 22:17.03 | Cotulla | slave died |
| 22:17.05 | Cotulla | help help |
| 22:17.05 | Cotulla | sos |
| 22:17.12 | Cotulla | . . - . . - . . - . . - . . - |
| 22:17.27 | Cotulla | fall back |
| 22:17.36 | Cotulla | decrease AXI ration to 19.2 |
| 22:18.06 | Cotulla | :D |
| 22:21.16 | jonpry | kbauds? |
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| 22:37.23 | Cotulla | so Alexx u got Z? |
| 22:38.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: yep |
| 22:38.32 | Cotulla | guys & gays tell that screen is awful is it? |
| 22:38.50 | ntg | Cotulla: get a htc one x |
| 22:38.54 | ntg | and get us s-off ;) |
| 22:38.56 | Cotulla | old CPU |
| 22:39.02 | ntg | also this made me lol ;) https://twitter.com/CotullaCode/status/352176812194922496 |
| 22:39.08 | Cotulla | and I like MSM |
| 22:39.18 | Cotulla | I am tegra free |
| 22:39.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: viewing angles are rather bad compared to AMOLED, colors are ok. Good thing is that it has >300 DPI and no pentile. Pentile looks awful |
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| 22:39.40 | ntg | Cotulla: my hd2 just laying here, what to do with it |
| 22:39.43 | ntg | rajkosto: pls |
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| 22:40.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: depends on what you really want. I wanted the highest DPI I could get |
| 22:44.19 | wkwk | Cotulla: htc one x s-off i pay, 50$ |
| 22:44.25 | Cotulla | one x is old |
| 22:44.28 | Cotulla | old cpu |
| 22:44.28 | wkwk | :( |
| 22:44.32 | Nikez | ^ |
| 22:44.37 | Cotulla | small ram? |
| 22:44.42 | Cotulla | I want at least 2 Gb |
| 22:44.45 | Nikez | ram what? :DDDDDDDD |
| 22:44.46 | wkwk | i'm going to sell it |
| 22:44.52 | wkwk | 2gb? wat, for what? |
| 22:44.58 | Cotulla | for WM65 ofcourse |
| 22:44.58 | Nikez | porn |
| 22:45.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | btw, there's open-source OpenGL ES drivers (mesa) for Adreno 220 and 3xx in APQ8064 |
| 22:45.14 | wkwk | you really want WM65? |
| 22:45.17 | wkwk | that's... ancient |
| 22:46.10 | Cotulla | yea, I somehow helped in that |
| 22:46.14 | Cotulla | Alexx |
| 22:46.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: how about emulating msm8250 and its gpu and running wp7? I think I'll play with A15. They've implemented the emulation via KVM in linux, so we can use qemu with native perfromance and emulate peripherals |
| 22:46.28 | Cotulla | but didn't know about 3xx |
| 22:46.38 | Cotulla | if Leia also it's cool |
| 22:46.46 | Cotulla | oh |
| 22:46.50 | Cotulla | Oxili |
| 22:47.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | is Oxili the codename of the GPU? |
| 22:48.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM4Mjg |
| 22:48.05 | Cotulla | yea |
| 22:48.07 | Cotulla | 3XX |
| 22:49.31 | Cotulla | msm8250? lolwut? |
| 22:49.39 | Cotulla | there is only qsd |
| 22:50.03 | Cotulla | well is CPU can be emulated? |
| 22:50.11 | Cotulla | I am not sure about coprocesses |
| 22:51.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: need to look it up, but I think it can be. Well, my point is that if we use the HYP mode which traps memory access and privileged instructions, we can gain almost native speed. How fast was your wm6 on wp7? |
| 22:52.21 | Cotulla | I looked Tangled on WVGA in TCPMP with same speed as on native WM65 |
| 22:52.30 | Cotulla | -5% probably |
| 22:53.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | was it paravirtualization? with wm65 you could rebuild the kernel, but running completely unmodified firmware would be more interesting |
| 22:54.03 | Cotulla | yea |
| 22:54.09 | Cotulla | it was paravirtualization |
| 22:54.36 | Cotulla | well |
| 22:54.47 | Cotulla | it was designed for QSD8250B / MSM7630 |
| 22:54.58 | Cotulla | and it was one reason why it runs so fast |
| 22:56.31 | Cotulla | anyway I believe I can run native WM65 on APQ8064 |
| 22:57.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | I tried running wm65 on Xperia X1 and was amazed how slow and laggy it is. WM6.1 was faster. But it's armv6, with A8 and forwards it should be fast |
| 22:58.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | I am very interested in virtualization because I think that rewriting software just because the os became unsupported is a waste of brain power |
| 22:58.46 | Cotulla | well |
| 22:58.57 | Cotulla | probably that point of view can exist |
| 23:00.33 | Cotulla | but it's a lot of problems |
| 23:00.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | port os/360 to your phone and amaze the professors at the university with the state of the art OS |
| 23:00.38 | Cotulla | some hardware hard to emulate |
| 23:05.41 | Cotulla | so how is ur bear Alexx? |
| 23:06.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: gotta give it some vodka and then let him drive the bike |
| 23:07.08 | Cotulla | nice |
| 23:07.41 | Cotulla | I thought about replacing TZ module and try to hook some access |
| 23:08.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes, that's a good idea |
| 23:08.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | depends on how "secure" it actually is |
| 23:09.43 | Cotulla | SMC calls into it |
| 23:09.55 | Cotulla | but not sure that is possible to catch |
| 23:10.05 | Cotulla | maybe also possible to catch coprocessor accesses |
| 23:10.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | how would you load a custom TZ firmware? hoping to find an exploit? |
| 23:11.04 | Cotulla | probably possible on HTC with S-OFF? |
| 23:11.06 | Cotulla | but I am not sure |
| 23:11.25 | Cotulla | but TZ often support some extra functions in modern devices |
| 23:11.30 | Cotulla | *s |
| 23:18.48 | jonpry | need windows 98 |
| 23:21.06 | Cotulla | in TZ? |
| 23:21.29 | jonpry | as virtualization client |
| 23:23.06 | Cotulla | buy phone with Atom |
| 23:23.09 | Cotulla | and run it |
| 23:25.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | i want a phone without atoms |
| 23:26.00 | Cotulla | why? |
| 23:26.03 | Cotulla | too hard for u Alexx? |
| 23:26.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | a phone made of antimatter |
| 23:26.26 | Cotulla | oh |
| 23:26.37 | jonpry | ion phone |
| 23:34.02 | Nikez | <3 Cotulla |
| 23:34.32 | Cotulla | rip Opera 12 |
