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| 13:46.28 | lautriv | assumed i have to (re)locate a kernel to fit on a specific device, what is my best bet to find a proper place using haret ? ( or in other words, are there some hints/headers/flags to see where WinMob is placing something in RAM ) |
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| 16:24.36 | zeusk_ | hello mortals |
| 16:24.49 | Cotulla | hello xxx |
| 16:25.31 | zeusk_ | I rate android build system 4/10, have to rebuild java packages even when not doing clean compile.... |
| 16:26.38 | Cotulla | nope it's 0/100 |
| 16:26.55 | zeusk_ | why ? |
| 16:27.32 | Cotulla | sucks |
| 16:27.34 | Cotulla | one word |
| 16:28.21 | zeusk_ | I would give that word to android :) but i think they're new so it's okay to suck at start |
| 16:29.15 | Cotulla | new? 3 years already |
| 16:30.17 | zeusk_ | comparatively, microsoft and apple have much more time with winmo/windows phone and iOS, though android just re-used linux kernel |
| 16:30.49 | Cotulla | yes |
| 16:30.52 | Cotulla | just reused |
| 16:30.56 | Cotulla | GCC kernel and etc |
| 16:31.01 | Cotulla | Java compiler |
| 16:31.02 | Cotulla | and etc |
| 16:32.05 | Cotulla | linux build system also ba |
| 16:32.08 | Cotulla | d |
| 16:33.27 | zeusk_ | dunno but i like their build config better than .bib crap in wince |
| 16:34.04 | Cotulla | u actually just didn't understand how it's working |
| 16:34.20 | zeusk_ | maybe, just used it for a few days |
| 16:34.45 | Cotulla | ever bib not config |
| 16:35.11 | zeusk_ | what o.o |
| 16:35.45 | Cotulla | fail |
| 16:36.12 | zeusk_ | so platform builder doesn't use it as build config ? |
| 16:36.51 | Cotulla | it's not same thing like linux config u mentioned |
| 16:38.03 | zeusk_ | hmm, fail. |
| 16:39.27 | Cotulla | in linux all object files appear near with sources that is bad |
| 16:39.37 | Cotulla | as well hard to rebuild only one directory |
| 16:40.09 | zeusk_ | new kernels allow seperate directory for compiled object files |
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| 16:44.16 | Cotulla | how many years |
| 16:44.39 | zeusk_ | lol, opensource.. they only implement what they want |
| 16:45.13 | zeusk_ | LOL, even lk has build directory config |
| 16:45.47 | Cotulla | most big improvements done by companies I think |
| 16:46.02 | zeusk_ | possibly because there are tons of makefiles to change for that support |
| 16:46.36 | zeusk_ | yes, I wouldn't say most but yes they do have to contribute back what they developed because of GPL |
| 16:47.06 | Cotulla | yeah but is it comfortable to work when 2/3 of files are temp ? |
| 16:47.31 | zeusk_ | nope, I've set *.o files as hidden in nautilus |
| 16:48.44 | Cotulla | *.d? :P |
| 16:53.55 | zeusk_ | hmm, I haven't seen many of those files, or maybe they're hidden by default |
| 16:56.25 | Cotulla | still not good |
| 16:59.02 | zeusk_ | why ? |
| 17:00.19 | zeusk_ | TROLOLOLOLOLO, libutils is using an undefined function in bionic, if i make build with release flags "NODEBUG", the build fails because of linker symbol checking..... |
| 17:12.50 | Cotulla | ? |
| 17:12.56 | Cotulla | which one and which AD? |
| 17:17.45 | zeusk_ | Android 2.3.7 (cyanogenmod 7) |
| 17:18.28 | zeusk_ | ERROR: libutils.so: Undefined refrence to 'mbtowc' |
| 17:20.48 | Cotulla | ok |
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| 22:41.58 | mes | so is sound really broken on rapheal with the acoustic checkins on the .27 series? |
| 22:42.16 | arrrghhh | jeebus. who works on RAPH? |
| 22:42.17 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 22:42.22 | mes | output works fine but not mic |
| 22:42.52 | arrrghhh | RAPH800 works fine here on acoustic. i'm not building the kernel myself tho, i'm using the pre-built/pre-packaged stuff. |
| 22:43.03 | mes | got run what you brung |
| 22:43.15 | arrrghhh | it's what i provided, so that's what i use lol |
| 22:44.32 | mes | I dont know the diffs between raph800 and raph110 |
| 22:45.18 | arrrghhh | dunno |
| 22:45.22 | arrrghhh | does the pre-packaged stuff? |
| 22:48.29 | arrrghhh | work*? |
| 22:48.33 | arrrghhh | ugh, too many things at once |
| 22:50.42 | mes | you mean the kernel comes with frx7.1? yes it works but that is 01333-g970e5be which is before the htc acoustic changes |
| 22:53.35 | arrrghhh | mes, no there's an acoustic kernel that comes with GBX0C |
| 22:53.39 | arrrghhh | FRX07.1 isn't acoustic enabled. |
| 22:53.42 | arrrghhh | as you stated... |
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| 23:05.30 | mes | thanks, arrrghhh , that is what I needed to know. I can just reset the tree to Oct 17th, arent really any changes to raph since then anyway |
| 23:06.08 | arrrghhh | mes, does it work for you? |
| 23:06.58 | mes | you mean the oct 17th kernel? |
| 23:07.36 | arrrghhh | GBX0C |
| 23:07.37 | arrrghhh | does audio work |
| 23:07.58 | mes | yes |
| 23:08.37 | arrrghhh | OK. then something you are doing is wrong :) |
| 23:08.43 | arrrghhh | GBX0C has the new acoustic baked in. |
| 23:09.56 | mes | no, have only even built the froyo branch |
| 23:10.30 | mes | I think it is faster on the old device, certainly my build with no google apps is faster and the battery lasts much longer |
| 23:11.06 | arrrghhh | meh |
| 23:11.14 | arrrghhh | full featured vs. stripped will always win for battery life. |
| 23:11.33 | arrrghhh | but Android without a market/'Play' is pretty useless :P |
| 23:12.20 | mes | all the apps I use a gpl and can be built myself, or installed without market |
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| 23:14.24 | arrrghhh | mes, you're not the typical user which my package is geared towards ;) |
| 23:15.28 | mes | come on man, everybody wants an HP41CV reverse polish calculator simulator, they just don;t know it yet. :) |
| 23:15.40 | arrrghhh | bwhahahaha |
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