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01:43.51 | frankdreypc | meh, ill hang around >.> |
01:50.28 | m4dh4x0r | woo frankdreypc ! |
01:50.35 | frankdreypc | :p |
01:52.52 | m4dh4x0r | the rabbit died... |
01:53.20 | m4dh4x0r | good news though she isnt preggo! |
01:54.57 | frankdreypc | what? |
01:54.58 | frankdreypc | :p |
01:56.50 | m4dh4x0r | they used to kill rabbits to do a pregnancy test |
02:02.26 | frankdreypc | :o |
02:05.35 | m4dh4x0r | lol |
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05:30.09 | frankdrey | Egh...okay |
05:30.26 | frankdrey | So haret would be loaded like opera on wp7, right? |
05:31.00 | frankdrey | A launcher that loads an exe.. |
05:31.15 | frankdrey | Crap, are there any file managers that launch exes? |
05:33.30 | frankdrey | Never mind, got that |
05:35.53 | frankdrey | Urgh...well, now I know for sure that the wp6 one doesn't work :3 |
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06:10.01 | frankdrey | Page 8 / 16 on the wp7 haret thread |
06:10.06 | frankdrey | Looking good :P |
06:10.14 | frankdrey | Ill probably be disappointed at the end |
06:47.27 | frankdrey | So...looks like a driver needs to be written to do the memory allocation... |
06:47.45 | frankdrey | prolly can't do it :p |
06:48.02 | frankdrey | I should go back to 6.5 and get to work on the actual android |
06:48.14 | frankdrey | Let the wp7 devs do their work with this :P |
06:48.44 | frankdrey | (I am totally pushing my far more important project down with this android thing xD) |
06:49.12 | frankdrey | My other project is on the psp, and I can get $250 for it :D |
06:49.16 | frankdrey | Neoflash :D |
06:49.23 | frankdrey | Alright, goodbye |
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09:22.53 | fakker | i thought he wasn't coming back until like 21st August? |
09:22.53 | fakker | wtf |
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14:09.15 | zeusk | hi |
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14:14.50 | zeusk | exit |
14:14.53 | zeusk | exit |
14:15.03 | zeusk | fail.. |
14:15.11 | lautriv | hi there. my question is not really htc-related but close to. just wondering if there is still some resource for haret for the original pxa chips, especially haretconsole. |
14:15.32 | zeusk | what 'resource' ? |
14:16.08 | lautriv | zeusk, a bunch of perl-sripts for the mentioned console and a matching binary. |
14:16.40 | zeusk | you can get code and compile youself, as for perl scripts google is your only help. |
14:17.52 | lautriv | zeusk, compilations doesn't make me headaches but it looks like all sites formerly hosted haretconsole are not longer availabel. |
14:17.56 | lautriv | *le |
14:18.54 | zeusk | I have haret snapshot from 22 june 2011 |
14:19.01 | zeusk | should i upload ? |
14:21.41 | lautriv | zeusk, my plan is to squeeze some information out of a PDA which is similar to the well supported ipaq hx4700, it's a Motorola hc700 ( industrial thingie with barcode/gsm and some funnie additions ) do you see some light at that tunnel with haret ? |
14:23.04 | zeusk | depends on what information you want, haret can only help you for the functions it already has and the devices it support |
14:25.22 | lautriv | zeusk, sure but it's a decade ago when i used it last, does haret hook the console on a pre-initiated (from Win-CE/mobile) connection ? |
14:25.38 | zeusk | yep, telnet |
14:26.04 | lautriv | using a wlan what i can init from within winblows ? |
14:27.52 | zeusk | i am not sure it works over wlan, only used it through usb rndis |
14:30.40 | lautriv | zeusk, this hc700 has BT/wlan/usb/serial/irda but a propietary connector and no specs/details. i might give it a shot. is there somewhere a good documentation ( not offline ) for command's details ? |
14:39.06 | lautriv | need to kexec system for some changes, back in a few minutes |
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15:07.36 | lautriv | zeusk, found an appropirate haret.exe in my own backups, mind to dcc me the console-scripts ? |
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16:22.32 | frankdrey | We have your IP *stare* |
16:23.13 | arrrghhh | how rude frankdrey |
16:23.15 | arrrghhh | :P |
16:23.26 | frankdrey | XD |
16:23.31 | arrrghhh | rob_w, if you use xchat you should put the password in the 'server password' field, not the 'nickserv password' field. |
16:23.46 | rob_w | uh do you see it ? |
16:23.47 | arrrghhh | it will auth you before you join any channels |
16:23.49 | frankdrey | Probably applies to many clients |
16:24.01 | rob_w | ah nice tipp thx |
16:24.13 | frankdrey | [09:22] Join: rob_w [ppp-88-217-73-199.dynamic.mnet-online.de] |
16:24.13 | frankdrey | [09:22] Quit: rob_w [Changing host] |
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16:24.13 | arrrghhh | rob_w, http://pastebin.com/seQzDzQL |
16:24.16 | arrrghhh | lol |
16:24.17 | frankdrey | :o |
16:24.18 | frankdrey | :p |
16:24.18 | arrrghhh | i wasn't going to do that |
16:24.24 | arrrghhh | bastages |
16:24.28 | frankdrey | Its 3 lines xD |
16:24.32 | arrrghhh | BASTAGES |
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16:25.30 | frankdrey | Same |
16:25.43 | frankdrey | Maybe put it in both? |
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16:26.13 | frankdrey | XD |
16:26.16 | arrrghhh | rob_w, what client |
16:26.19 | arrrghhh | ? |
16:26.29 | rob_w | stupid xchat |
16:26.39 | rob_w | hangon .. i might forgot my pass ;-) |
16:26.50 | frankdrey | :P |
16:26.56 | arrrghhh | lol |
16:27.06 | arrrghhh | you see what i mean tho about the 'server pass' vs 'nickserv pass'? |
16:27.14 | arrrghhh | works everytime, assuming you remember your password lol |
16:27.33 | frankdrey | doesn't care if others see his IP |
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16:27.50 | frankdrey | Sometimes you can even play Minecraft with me on my IP |
16:27.55 | frankdrey | :D |
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16:30.07 | rob_w | there you go ! thx again .. i was wondering about that all the time |
16:30.56 | arrrghhh | rob_w, np. drove me batty a while back. |
16:31.03 | arrrghhh | so i figured out why it was happening :P |
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16:32.41 | frankdrey | write's down rob_w's IP so that later, when rob forgets about this moment, frankdrey can geoip him |
16:33.05 | rob_w | pfff |
16:33.17 | frankdrey | XD |
16:33.23 | rob_w | anyway , how is htc-linux doing overall ? |
16:33.35 | frankdrey | Pretty bad |
16:33.35 | frankdrey | :D |
16:33.42 | rob_w | been years since i had one etc |
16:34.07 | zeusk | lautriv, you can try htc-linux.org they have some good documentation on haret |
16:34.12 | rob_w | wonders what else beside android people run on such devices ? |
16:34.23 | frankdrey | SHR |
16:34.28 | frankdrey | just found that :D |
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16:34.40 | zeusk | i test my own kernel, but it's crap, no gui :( |
16:34.40 | frankdrey | is gonna dual boot it on his G1 |
16:35.24 | frankdrey | wants a haret for wp7 |
16:35.36 | frankdrey | rob_w, what device do you have |
16:35.50 | rob_w | had one .. but sold it long ago |
16:35.59 | frankdrey | Aww |
16:36.04 | frankdrey | Which one? |
16:36.19 | rob_w | had a bueangel back then .. was kickass smartphone back then |
16:36.34 | frankdrey | :o |
16:36.34 | rob_w | blueangel |
16:36.41 | frankdrey | has a toshiba tg01 |
16:37.04 | rob_w | and have some gta flying around somehwere .. but that hardware was crap even in rev02 |
16:37.41 | frankdrey | Ah |
16:37.56 | frankdrey | The tg01 has decent hardware |
16:38.01 | frankdrey | Better than my G1 for sure :P |
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16:38.11 | frankdrey | My goals for it are: |
16:38.24 | frankdrey | 1. Haret on wp7, if not, I'm downgrading to 6.5 |
16:38.29 | frankdrey | 2. Froyo |
16:38.38 | frankdrey | 3. JB once I get a 64 bit pc |
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16:51.45 | frankdrey | Screw it, ill just go back to 6.5. Wp7 sucks anyway |
16:56.01 | jianC | lol |
16:57.46 | frankdrey | 6.5 sucks more, but at least I could run android there |
17:00.42 | arrrghhh | nand ftw |
17:05.14 | frankdrey | No nand for me |
17:06.09 | jianC | bad blocks? |
17:15.08 | frankdrey | Tg01 |
17:15.12 | frankdrey | Not flashable |
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17:15.37 | arrrghhh | it runs WP7? |
17:17.54 | frankdrey | Yes |
17:18.11 | frankdrey | Because there's a hacked together wp7 bootloader |
17:18.18 | frankdrey | No bootloader for android, though... |
17:19.23 | arrrghhh | weird |
17:20.00 | frankdrey | Hmmm I have a prototype of the phone, though... |
17:20.11 | frankdrey | So I wonder if there's anything special hardware-wise |
17:20.22 | frankdrey | Software-wise would be gone by now :P, with all my flashing |
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17:57.11 | frankdrey | :D |
17:57.23 | frankdrey | is on gentoo :D irssi ftw! |
17:57.29 | frankdrey | anyway, gotta install it |
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17:57.37 | arrrghhh | you comcast usin bastard |
17:57.39 | arrrghhh | aw he left |
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19:06.34 | zeusk | hello mortals |
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19:44.15 | frankdreypc | dumbass wp7 encrypted my sd card >_> |
19:45.52 | arrrghhh | dumbass using wp7 |
19:46.12 | frankdreypc | im not anymore |
19:46.15 | frankdreypc | i went back to 6.5 |
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20:11.09 | lautriv | dumpass using WP at all ;) |
20:13.00 | frankdreypc | buy me an android phone :p |
20:13.10 | frankdreypc | the reason im back at 6.5 is to use haret :p |
20:14.58 | lautriv | ok, while we are on it, have a Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition on a PDA which should get wlan up to have a console for haret. i can see my AP's and configured it to WPA-PSK but it says only connecting and never get's connected. i'm aware that OS is a piece of <censored> but maybe there is a special bug ? |
20:15.17 | zeusk | lautriv, you should look at htc-linux.org for some haret documentation, nothing much but helpful |
20:16.11 | lautriv | zeusk, got that line, a bit delayed but i saw you. right now i'm on the road to see a connection right before. |
20:18.19 | frankdreypc | rips his G1 sd card out and watches everything crash because it was on the swap partition :3 |
20:18.54 | zeusk | frank, you should learn the art of not spamming a channel |
20:18.59 | zeusk | i rate that skill 10/10 |
20:20.54 | frankdreypc | zeusk, calm down |
20:21.47 | frankdreypc | ill just leave then :p |
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20:21.50 | zeusk | ... |
20:22.22 | lautriv | whow, that was a bit very sensitive. |
20:27.50 | Cotulla | lol yeah |
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20:51.14 | lautriv | maybe an older wiblows mobile can't handle a SD-Card with newer alignments ? (starting on a 1M boundary with block 2048) |
20:51.36 | Cotulla | what is that card |
20:52.37 | lautriv | card is a 1G µSD with adaptor to mini-SD prepared on linux, first part VFAT, second ext 2 |
20:53.40 | zeusk | what happens if NULL pointer is used in LDREX or STREX ? |
20:54.51 | zeusk | lautriv, hmm dunno but my XDA Atom could use 4gb microSD using adapter (it was windows mobile 6.1) |
20:55.08 | Cotulla | exception |
20:55.13 | Cotulla | data abort |
20:55.19 | zeusk | okay, thanks |
20:55.33 | Cotulla | strange that u ever ask abotu that |
20:56.07 | zeusk | because ARM ARM only mention about what happens in thumb mode |
20:56.12 | lautriv | zeusk, 1G is not even SDHC but i wonder if that old M$ must have a bad aligned early block. |
20:56.42 | Cotulla | block must be 512 |
20:56.56 | Cotulla | and most card are not support anything except 512 anyway |
20:57.19 | lautriv | i know the size, was on the number.... using 2048 as first block. |
20:58.27 | Cotulla | MBR must be at the first sector |
20:59.16 | lautriv | MBR is MBR but M$ is M$, can they handle a first primary partition NOT starting right after tables ? |
20:59.48 | lautriv | the old, usual way is block 63 |
21:00.09 | Cotulla | I think yes |
21:00.12 | zeusk | I think all is read from MBR, so it should work fine if linux wrote correct block number in MBR |
21:00.16 | Cotulla | u too prejudiced about MS |
21:01.27 | lautriv | Cotulla, once i administrated large networks on winblows, got a view behind the curtain and decided to bot longer support such evil behaviour. it's not just because a flavour. |
21:02.04 | Cotulla | for example? |
21:02.06 | zeusk | i like how you type "windows" as "winblows" 10/10 |
21:03.03 | lautriv | Cotulla, there is somewhere an old page about them, let me see if i can find it for you ... |
21:03.16 | zeusk | metro in windows 8 RTM is still not useable on a pc, big screen without touch == FAIL. |
21:03.20 | Cotulla | and what u got instead? |
21:04.18 | lautriv | Cotulla, it's old but the behaviour did not change today --> http://www.kmfms.com/whatsbad.html |
21:06.06 | Cotulla | it just one point of view isn't it? |
21:06.28 | Cotulla | they tells like it's only MS approach |
21:06.42 | Cotulla | almost all products become large and large with each versions |
21:07.05 | Cotulla | as well often people start to use new technology which takes more resources (example - Android with Java) |
21:07.41 | Cotulla | or programs which are done fully on Python which is script language without opitmization |
21:07.54 | lautriv | Cotulla, it's not about bloat, even a recent linux is much more bloat than it need to be. |
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21:08.10 | Cotulla | they arguments about 486 . . . dunno. moden linux eats almost same amount resources like Windows . . . |
21:08.17 | Cotulla | *modern |
21:08.21 | zeusk | lautriv, I'm sure you'll find more bloat in default install of ubuntu than default install of windows 7/8 :) |
21:08.53 | Cotulla | and however it's important to be able allocate resources, not to have them always free. so free ram can be used for agressive caching. . . |
21:08.58 | lautriv | i'm not talking about bloat, you need to read more of this article. |
21:09.06 | Cotulla | yeah I am reading |
21:09.33 | Cotulla | however it's very old |
21:09.37 | Cotulla | >>Backward Incompatibility<<< lol |
21:09.52 | Cotulla | it's still better than linux one in most terms |
21:10.23 | zeusk | i disagree cotulla |
21:10.41 | zeusk | windows vista, 7 and now 8 |
21:10.46 | lautriv | i switched from gnome3 to XFCE because i dislike that on any OS but what i mean is more the criminal aspect of this reading. and while i was an insider i got even more information. |
21:11.05 | lautriv | Cotulla, better ? where ? |
21:11.16 | zeusk | lautriv, as they say, you only spot faults when you look from near |
21:11.21 | Cotulla | I can play (and played) old W95 games |
21:11.29 | Cotulla | on W7 X86 u can run Win16 apps |
21:11.44 | Cotulla | API compatible levels also exist |
21:12.05 | lautriv | heh, gaming is not even a gactor, get a WII then. |
21:12.13 | lautriv | *factor |
21:12.18 | zeusk | microsoft flight simulator 95 crashes on my 7 |
21:12.22 | Cotulla | rather famous "SuperPi test" comes from 1996 |
21:13.07 | Cotulla | but I still don't need rewrite driver for new linux which has 0.0.3 more in version number :) |
21:13.33 | Cotulla | it's important to understand that it's impossible to make everything compatible: old apps often also has bugs and issues |
21:14.11 | Cotulla | I am talking about some reasonable limits |
21:14.40 | lautriv | linux is far away from beeing perfect but if you do a serious compare it's still superior to any other OS. ( as of now ) |
21:14.58 | Cotulla | as well they describe things which all companies are doing |
21:15.03 | Cotulla | Apple Google and etc |
21:15.07 | Cotulla | it's not only MS thing |
21:15.21 | zeusk | http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies/ |
21:15.31 | Cotulla | I am sure that things happens also outside of IT |
21:15.43 | lautriv | both agreed |
21:25.10 | zeusk | linux kernel itself isn't clean |
21:25.28 | zeusk | i tried disabling printk to save some cpu cyles |
21:26.07 | zeusk | it would fail because many headers don't care about CONFIG_PRINTK and just define the functions causing clash in function declaration |
21:28.00 | lautriv | too much people screwing on it, not all are really interrested in such details and think "it must just run" |
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21:34.51 | Cotulla | yeah |
21:34.58 | Cotulla | and a lot of show off around it |
21:36.51 | marc1706 | what do you think of this io scheduler? http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.msm/2911 |
21:37.16 | lautriv | zeusk, feel free to insert a few thousand #ifdef ;) |
21:37.54 | zeusk | lautriv, but why put broken features in a stable kernel branch ? |
21:38.49 | zeusk | I've fixed it already but seems they fix such things only in the latest version while only a few people help keep older kernels alive |
21:39.07 | Cotulla | lol |
21:39.07 | Cotulla | Host controller: msm-sdcc |
21:39.43 | zeusk | and for porting device code from kernel x.x to y.y is pain, they never have any documentation about implementing BSP and stuff required for a target bring up |
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21:39.59 | zeusk | cotulla, what is that supposed to mean ? |
21:40.11 | lautriv | zeusk, saw that a lot, also some inventions are not really better but the flow of the masses .......... |
21:40.18 | marc1706 | zeusk: that's in the link I posted ;) |
21:40.54 | zeusk | cotulla, what else is expected when from : ... codeaurora.org |
21:41.03 | Cotulla | I see |
21:41.21 | Cotulla | so it won't change anything totally |
21:41.27 | Cotulla | a bit maybe |
21:42.07 | marc1706 | it's supposed to behave better when reading, i.e. when opening an app I'm guessing |
21:42.24 | marc1706 | but the worst case write latency kind of freaks me out O.o |
21:42.25 | Cotulla | maybe |
21:42.38 | Cotulla | but this guy didn't attach test results |
21:42.49 | zeusk | it's there o.o |
21:42.58 | Cotulla | it's bullshit |
21:42.59 | zeusk | but only data throughoutput |
21:43.04 | Cotulla | just look at it |
21:43.26 | zeusk | also seems he assume wrong, only 2 or 3 threads at a time.... lol LK has more threads than that when booting |
21:43.31 | marc1706 | http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.msm/2911/focus=2911 |
21:43.46 | marc1706 | look at Jaehoon Chung's post |
21:43.50 | marc1706 | btw, that's not a guy :D |
21:44.06 | Cotulla | lol Tatyana Brokhman |
21:44.14 | Cotulla | girl detected :D |
21:44.46 | zeusk | did she forget to type her name ? |
21:44.53 | zeusk | tatyana at first and then tanya.... |
21:46.04 | marc1706 | xD |
21:47.10 | Cotulla | troll? |
21:47.22 | marc1706 | no idea |
21:47.22 | Cotulla | STATUS_INVALID_TROLL_MODE |
21:48.52 | marc1706 | anyways I'll wait what happens to this as even tatyana/tanya calls it a RFC |
21:49.06 | marc1706 | some guy asked me if I could put it into my kernel ... |
21:49.25 | zeusk | marc, i think it's crap and hope this doesn't get merged into mainline. |
21:50.06 | marc1706 | I don't like it much either but we'll see, maybe there is some magic code in there :D |
21:51.48 | zeusk | writes "It isn't bugfree and in development" posts patch to mailing list.... http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.msm/2911/focus=2911 |
21:52.53 | marc1706 | zeusk: links don't work that way but you're right |
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