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| 18:41.28 | marc1706 | zeusk or zeusk_: are you available right now? |
| 18:41.36 | zeusk_ | yep |
| 18:41.49 | marc1706 | I just found this commit: https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/le/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9057d8ed06ce9c36f406e5a558a570f2eede02a |
| 18:42.51 | zeusk_ | our framebuffer is far from codeaurora, securecrt is working on bringing it up on .32 right now |
| 18:43.22 | marc1706 | I know, but is that all that makes triple buffer? O.o |
| 18:44.58 | zeusk_ | yes, we were already using double buffer for vsync |
| 18:45.23 | zeusk_ | so they should have already put up some frame selection code before switching 2 to 3 |
| 18:45.56 | zeusk_ | imo android is going in the wrong direction, i don't like triple buffering |
| 18:45.59 | marc1706 | ah ok |
| 18:46.17 | marc1706 | it makes it silky smooth though (that's from a movie :D ) |
| 18:46.54 | zeusk_ | marc1706, It is not only triple buffering, but many other optimisations |
| 18:47.28 | zeusk_ | and triple buffering increases ram usage, requires too much logic moving around frames and selecting which one to draw on and which one to serve to screen |
| 18:47.49 | marc1706 | hm, mdp from 3.0 compiled and then it told me I'm missing register_display_notifier ... |
| 18:47.55 | zeusk_ | also it causes input lag since frames are 2~3 frames behind user input |
| 18:48.09 | marc1706 | which is why they want vsync ... |
| 18:48.13 | zeusk_ | have you checked your board file code ? |
| 18:48.36 | zeusk_ | vsync is only for preventing screen tear (screen update while drawing is not complete) |
| 18:48.53 | zeusk_ | so they use double buffer and on vsync swap buffers |
| 18:49.27 | marc1706 | register_display_notifier is from msm_fb |
| 18:49.35 | marc1706 | so the new one probably doesn't have that function anymore ... |
| 18:50.03 | zeusk_ | what is it used for/in ? |
| 18:50.15 | marc1706 | it's used in htc_battery |
| 18:50.49 | zeusk_ | lol, htc battery is big piece of mess |
| 18:50.59 | marc1706 | tell me about it |
| 18:52.05 | zeusk_ | hmm, it's a google commit for using display notifier |
| 18:52.11 | zeusk_ | i think it can be removed |
| 18:52.34 | zeusk_ | along with htc_power_policy |
| 18:53.09 | zeusk_ | wakelock for device charging animation... facepalm |
| 18:53.23 | marc1706 | display_notifier(htc_power_policy, NOTIFY_POWER); |
| 18:53.25 | marc1706 | yeah ... |
| 18:53.47 | marc1706 | le commenting that crap out ... |
| 18:54.55 | marc1706 | I also disabled all mipi files |
| 18:55.39 | marc1706 | it's not like the leo would need those xD |
| 18:56.08 | zeusk_ | were they even used ? :o |
| 18:57.03 | zeusk_ | btw check "batt_notify" too, they're using the functions used to notify msmfb |
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| 19:00.56 | marc1706 | yeah, disabled that, too |
| 19:06.50 | zeusk_ | should it be disabled ? |
| 19:09.47 | Cotulla | linux way detected |
| 19:09.52 | Cotulla | hi marc1706 |
| 19:10.37 | marc1706 | well if there is no register_display_notifier and the batt_notify is basically using the display_notifier then I think I should disabled it :D |
| 19:10.39 | marc1706 | hi Cotulla |
| 19:11.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | marc1706: calling display driver from the battery driver seems kinda strange :) |
| 19:11.37 | Cotulla | Alexx, why? |
| 19:11.57 | Cotulla | it's a usual linux way? |
| 19:12.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: no, it's usual qualcomm way |
| 19:12.08 | zeusk_ | alex, they are doing that for wakelock (charging animation)... |
| 19:12.19 | Cotulla | or qualcomm |
| 19:12.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk_: fucktards |
| 19:12.23 | zeusk_ | also to notify framebuffer for power policy... WTF |
| 19:12.25 | Cotulla | and put definition inside audio headers |
| 19:12.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | this is policy. this should be done in userland anyway. that's what cpufreq and framebuffer ioctl is for. to avoid hardcoding logic in drivers |
| 19:13.11 | Cotulla | why not |
| 19:13.47 | Cotulla | it's not needed to control that from userland |
| 19:13.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | because this makes drivers depend on each other and harder to maintain? |
| 19:13.55 | Cotulla | only useless code which increase error ration |
| 19:14.00 | Cotulla | size of the system |
| 19:14.05 | Cotulla | as well decrease speed |
| 19:14.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, when you write the code once and throw it away forever, that's ok |
| 19:14.10 | Cotulla | increase complexity |
| 19:14.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: oh please. speed has never been an issue for the last decade |
| 19:14.34 | Cotulla | Android? |
| 19:14.35 | Cotulla | :D |
| 19:15.11 | Cotulla | if we have component A with correlates with component B via internal way |
| 19:15.15 | Cotulla | it can stay forever |
| 19:15.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | I wonder what was the reason not to make android fast from the beginning. why did it took 5 years? |
| 19:15.32 | zeusk_ | dunno what's wrong with google but android is becoming laggy on leo while wp becomes smoother than android ever was.. |
| 19:16.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk_: I guess people at google all have 16-core smartphones with infinite ram |
| 19:16.37 | Cotulla | so connection between battery and display driver is independent until they are in same address [space |
| 19:16.57 | Cotulla | as well such code can be ported to anything fast |
| 19:17.30 | zeusk_ | cotulla but using a wakelock for charging animation is fucking stupid |
| 19:17.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: I once saw some 'clever' htc kernel code which just limited the cpu frequency when the screen was off :). This doesn't seem quite alright |
| 19:17.49 | Cotulla | if AC or USB connected - why not |
| 19:17.57 | Cotulla | it's only question of charge speed |
| 19:18.04 | Cotulla | with a small difference |
| 19:18.52 | Cotulla | when screen off user usually listening only music or sync something right? |
| 19:19.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: what if the user is listening to some 10 mbps music? or installing a game that extracts the archive? |
| 19:19.48 | Cotulla | yeah in that case it sucks |
| 19:20.09 | Cotulla | but from other point of view, display DMA is off, so memory bandwidth is free. |
| 19:20.17 | Cotulla | and it can access memory faster |
| 19:20.57 | zeusk_ | cotulla if the lock is for the fact that battery charger cannot work during suspend, does not have overcharge interrupt then they should say that not "Lock suspend for DOPOD charging animation" |
| 19:20.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | so. modular design allows easier portin of separate drivers. hardcoding policy in drivers makes them harder to maintain but allows to write them faster. so htc/qcom does that |
| 19:22.08 | zeusk_ | Alex, is TI better than qualcomm for kernel stuff ? |
| 19:22.32 | Cotulla | disaggree with u. modular design usually assume heavy OS integration |
| 19:22.39 | Cotulla | which make porting harder |
| 19:22.43 | marc1706 | btw, what charging animation? :D |
| 19:22.45 | marc1706 | the led? |
| 19:22.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk_: imho, yes. they have ALSA for audio and most code working in vanilla kernel |
| 19:22.54 | Cotulla | no picture on the screen |
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| 19:23.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk_: the best is samsung. they even have v4l2 camera in vanilla and DRM driver for hdmi/display |
| 19:24.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk_: I even had linaro 3.3 kernel running on my s2 and had made most hardware work with only writing the board file. though I failed to debug suspend without jtag |
| 19:24.20 | Cotulla | u are not strong |
| 19:24.24 | Cotulla | what is wrong there? |
| 19:24.31 | zeusk_ | strong ? LOL |
| 19:24.38 | marc1706 | this kind of reminds me of users complaining about the missing headset icon in ICS ... it makes sense for BT but having a notification icon that you have a wired headset connected is kind of stupid ... |
| 19:25.07 | marc1706 | like you wouldn't know that you just connected your headset ... |
| 19:25.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: dunno. it just hanged. I don't know if it hanged on resume or before suspend. Had no time to do it back then. |
| 19:25.22 | Cotulla | just put some counter somewhere |
| 19:25.24 | Cotulla | and look |
| 19:25.27 | Cotulla | the last value |
| 19:25.37 | Cotulla | but I guess there is no reset button |
| 19:25.39 | Cotulla | right? |
| 19:26.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: right. have you seen a pda with a reset button recently? |
| 19:26.55 | zeusk_ | marc1706. __htc_power_policy is needed i think, they're using it for vbus_wake_lock |
| 19:27.04 | zeusk_ | Alex, yes |
| 19:27.22 | zeusk_ | leo :D (though not so recent) |
| 19:27.40 | Cotulla | no |
| 19:27.55 | Cotulla | so u may fail on that |
| 19:28.00 | Cotulla | on memory log after reset |
| 19:28.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: I guess I'll have to use UART. all stuff like vibrator/torch is controlled by i2c, not with a simple gpio |
| 19:29.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, I'll better use android kernel 3.0 now and do some userland stuff first |
| 19:30.54 | Cotulla | okk |
| 19:31.03 | marc1706 | zeusk_: k, left it in |
| 19:31.14 | marc1706 | will need to upgrade to jb or ics at least though ... |
| 19:31.24 | marc1706 | probably better to upgrad to jb |
| 19:31.37 | marc1706 | currently on gingerbread as I was testing something |
| 19:32.27 | zeusk_ | i prefer gb on leo too, ics and jb are too laggy |
| 19:32.38 | marc1706 | I didn't have issues with ics |
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| 19:37.39 | Willd | Hm, I have a tablet where the charger is on 12v. Is this error appropriate? |
| 19:37.41 | Willd | <3>[ 6.374442] tegra-udc tegra-udc.0: vbus_draw regulator error -19; charging disabled |
| 19:39.53 | zeusk_ | no idea what would msmfb do with the battery charge status... |
| 19:40.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | Willd: 19 is ENODEV |
| 19:40.22 | Willd | msmfb? |
| 19:40.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | Willd: which probably means the regulator supply is not defined |
| 19:40.39 | zeusk_ | willd, that was for previous discussion |
| 19:40.45 | Willd | zeusk_: Oh, soz |
| 19:41.18 | Willd | Alex[sp3dev]: I'm wondering if this is was intended.. |
| 19:42.14 | Willd | -is* |
| 19:42.47 | zeusk_ | willd if it's the official stock kernel, it should be fine |
| 19:43.01 | Willd | Hah.. |
| 19:43.23 | Willd | You might not remember all the fuzz about TabCo.. |
| 19:43.39 | Willd | I have one of FusionGarages Grid 10 |
| 19:43.51 | Willd | Most things are probably not stock :( |
| 19:45.26 | zeusk_ | :holymotherofgod: |
| 19:45.30 | zeusk_ | Dotcom purchased €375,000 worth of shares of the nearly bankrupt company LetsBuyIt.com and subsequently announced his intention to invest €50 million in the company. Unknown to others, Dotcom did not have the funds available to invest, although the announcement caused the share value of LetsBuyIt.com to jump by nearly 300%. Dotcom sold his shares a few days later for €1,568,000 |
| 19:45.40 | zeusk_ | this guy is the hero of my life |
| 19:46.13 | Willd | Uh, isn't that insider trading? |
| 19:46.22 | zeusk_ | yep, he was arrested |
| 19:46.41 | Willd | But not on that charge, eh? |
| 19:47.26 | Cotulla | lol |
| 19:47.28 | Cotulla | Dotcom troll |
| 19:48.21 | zeusk_ | Kim dotcom (megaupload guy) |
| 19:50.16 | Cotulla | why he did that? :O |
| 19:50.37 | Willd | Cotulla: Kind of how he works? :) |
| 19:50.39 | Cotulla | GSOD |
| 19:52.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk_: so he was arrested because he didn't give FBI access to his CP archive? |
| 19:52.57 | zeusk_ | CP ? |
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| 19:53.22 | frankdrey | got the toshiba tg01 |
| 19:53.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk_: cmon, we all know what paid file hostings are for |
| 19:53.31 | frankdrey | Now I need to find that rom for it. |
| 19:53.34 | frankdrey | I have the kernel... |
| 19:53.58 | frankdrey | Or the ramdisk... |
| 19:54.14 | frankdrey | On g1 they're together, so I'm not used to this :P |
| 19:54.53 | zeusk_ | alex, i dunno what is CP archive (which is surely not co-processor) |
| 19:56.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk_: indeed, a central processor. really, why was megaupload closed? because FBI got jealous and wanted more money? |
| 19:57.32 | zeusk_ | because of copyright infringement suit from MAFIAA |
| 19:57.53 | zeusk_ | Music And Film industry Association of America |
| 20:15.43 | zeusk_ | fail alex, CP.... i don't think that they would arrest him for that, isn't that stuff available all over net anyway ? |
| 20:17.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk_: as a guy living in russia I would assume he simply didn't share enough of his income with the officials :) |
| 20:18.43 | zeusk_ | hmm |
| 20:19.40 | Cotulla | :D |
| 20:20.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | if RIAA wanted, say, X millon dollars, he could probably pay X/10 to the police instead :) |
| 20:21.06 | zeusk_ | make that x/100 |
| 20:21.46 | jonpry | that is what is wrong with america |
| 20:22.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: so, this algorithm would work in america too? xD |
| 20:25.50 | jonpry | no |
| 20:27.26 | Cotulla | jonpry, 10000$ for data from ur computer at work, ok? |
| 20:27.55 | zeusk_ | LOL |
| 20:28.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: ok, I agree :) |
| 20:28.24 | Cotulla | u in moscow unfortunatly |
| 20:28.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: does living in the USA automatically makes your computer have valuable data? |
| 20:29.33 | Cotulla | just checking "jonpry: so, this algorithm would work in america too? xD" |
| 20:30.05 | zeusk_ | Cotulla, what would you do anyway with some crap microsoft excel sheets and probably some more corporate crap ? |
| 20:32.23 | Cotulla | jonpry seems admin |
| 20:32.35 | Cotulla | maybe his DB has a lot of stuffs |
| 20:33.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: I'll tell you one little secret. large data (DB, sources) are kept on servers. workstations are just terminal clients :) |
| 20:34.15 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 20:35.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | so you should ask for "all data from all machines in your local network reachable from your PC". |
| 20:35.29 | Cotulla | right ;) |
| 20:35.41 | Cotulla | "all data from all machines in your local country" |
| 20:35.46 | Cotulla | that's ever better! |
| 20:36.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | one problem is how to keep all that data |
| 20:36.31 | Cotulla | "all data from all machines in your local country on CD disks mailed by mail" |
| 20:37.15 | zeusk_ | better use bluray or mail will cost more than bribe :P |
| 20:37.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6610/tierrahdeg2.jpg |
| 20:38.52 | Cotulla | lol yeah |
| 20:40.35 | zeusk_ | lol |
| 21:07.25 | jonpry | like the RIAA spends all this energy trying to sue youtube when they play there crap for fractions of pennies on the radio and MTV |
| 21:07.37 | jonpry | but they don't want money |
| 21:07.54 | jonpry | they want to call the shots and sell stuff on the internet when they choose |
| 21:08.38 | jonpry | so everybody else has to get sued and go to jail for watching music videos online because the RIAA can't figure out if they want .00001 cents or .00002 |
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| 21:09.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah. and if you don't want to buy from them or even listen to music, you're a criminal because you leave them without their undrawn profit |
| 21:10.56 | zeusk_ | seriously, how many associations does america even have ? i've even heard they have one for dentists... |
| 21:11.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk_: if you have perfect teeth that don't hurt, you're depriving dentists from income! you must go to jail |
| 21:12.03 | zeusk_ | lol |
| 21:19.26 | jonpry | if the RIAA could just learn to take bribes like normal people |
| 21:21.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | RIAA is just a way to distract people while laws and constitution are changed to allow more control over private life |
| 21:26.28 | zeusk_ | SOPA, lamar smith must burn in hell |
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| 21:48.31 | Cotulla | hm |
| 21:48.35 | Cotulla | is it possible to disable ARM code |
| 21:48.38 | Cotulla | allow only THUMB2? |
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| 21:59.21 | zeusk_ | cotulla, don't think so |
| 21:59.50 | zeusk_ | but it is possible to run in thumb-2 only, get a cortex-M0 |
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