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12:26.06 | Sleep_Walker | hi |
12:26.31 | Sleep_Walker | is anyone working on HTC Desire Z? |
12:26.41 | Willd | Probably not in here |
12:26.42 | Willd | Why? |
12:27.04 | Sleep_Walker | because I'm |
12:27.49 | Sleep_Walker | is your work on distro or more kernel work? |
12:28.59 | Sleep_Walker | you probably know how to enable framebuffer console and if there is xorg driver for msmfb... right? |
12:30.41 | Willd | Sleep_Walker: You're trying to run a standard linux distro? |
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13:20.02 | Sleep_Walker | Willd: right |
13:20.09 | Sleep_Walker | I'm currently running openSUSE |
13:20.28 | Sleep_Walker | but in very limited way |
13:47.40 | Willd | Sleep_Walker: Not sure where you can find it, but the gang who got Ubuntu running on Leo is in here |
13:47.47 | Willd | They prolly have a repo somewhere with what you need |
13:48.19 | zeusk_ | what device are you on sleep_walker ? |
13:58.24 | Sleep_Walker | HTC Desire Z |
13:59.10 | Sleep_Walker | I have found xf86-video-msm in code aurora |
13:59.27 | Sleep_Walker | (but haven't tried yet) |
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14:09.02 | frankdrey | How exactly does HaRET load Android (or any Linux) onto Windows CE? |
14:09.38 | frankdrey | What I have understood is that you run it and it passes control to a Linux kernel, which does the rest... |
14:09.56 | frankdrey | But, idk, because I haven't found much on it :P |
14:10.13 | phh | well there is mostly nothing to do ... |
14:10.15 | frankdrey | To be specific, I'm talking about a Toshiba TG01 |
14:10.17 | frankdrey | Hmm? |
14:10.22 | phh | just load kernel at the proper memory address |
14:10.26 | phh | push some atags on ram+registers |
14:10.28 | phh | and jump into kernel |
14:10.51 | frankdrey | Ah |
14:11.14 | frankdrey | Okay, so the place where all the real *porting* happens is the kernel |
14:11.17 | frankdrey | And the rom |
14:11.21 | phh | yes |
14:11.24 | phh | the rom ? |
14:11.31 | frankdrey | Well... |
14:11.39 | phh | ah the android distrib |
14:11.41 | phh | ok |
14:11.42 | frankdrey | Libs specifically |
14:11.43 | frankdrey | Yep |
14:11.50 | frankdrey | comes from the G1 :3 |
14:13.08 | frankdrey | Alright, I probably should mess with building G1 kernels a tad more before tackling the TG01 |
14:14.12 | phh | what do you want to do ? |
14:15.43 | frankdrey | well, from what I've read, what android builds the tg01 has, are horribly buggy and not being worked on anymore |
14:15.53 | frankdrey | I wait in #toshdroid almost everyday ;_; |
14:16.28 | frankdrey | So id like to work on a decent Android build |
14:16.29 | Willd | Wait? :p |
14:16.36 | frankdrey | YES ITS A DREAM XD |
14:16.46 | frankdrey | Well, its empty but chanserv is there |
14:16.49 | frankdrey | So its registered :P |
14:16.57 | Willd | Why would anyone come back? >_> |
14:16.58 | frankdrey | == a chance :P |
14:17.02 | frankdrey | No clue lol |
14:17.37 | zeusk_ | it's quite a few people there... |
14:17.54 | frankdrey | Yep :D |
14:18.53 | frankdrey | You know, I was thinking ics + hw accel might be the last thing ill try...but now that I think about it |
14:19.04 | frankdrey | Adreno 200 should already have android drivers :S |
14:19.05 | frankdrey | :P |
14:19.19 | frankdrey | While the rest of the crap wont:P |
14:19.43 | Willd | Yeah adreno 200 is open source now |
14:19.49 | zeusk_ | frankdrey, you should forget ics now |
14:19.55 | Sleep_Walker | Willd: really? |
14:20.02 | Sleep_Walker | Willd: do you know where? |
14:20.07 | Willd | Sleep_Walker: Last I heard |
14:20.07 | frankdrey | zeusk_, why? |
14:20.15 | zeusk_ | leo is having trouble with 576megs, iirc tg01 has 256megs |
14:20.24 | frankdrey | Yeah:/ |
14:20.26 | frankdrey | Then again... |
14:20.30 | frankdrey | I had ics on my g1 :P |
14:20.37 | Willd | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODM4OA |
14:20.40 | frankdrey | It was.........meh...:p but it worked |
14:20.50 | zeusk_ | Willd, it's not open source, they just released binaries for "enthusiasts" |
14:20.54 | Willd | zeusk_: Oh.. |
14:21.14 | Willd | Nvm, that one was old |
14:21.19 | zeusk_ | kernel driver HAS to be open source, it's GPL |
14:21.27 | phh | zeusk_: sure sure. |
14:21.51 | phh | tell that to nvidia |
14:21.55 | zeusk_ | phh, mostly unless you're like qualcomm and export most stuff to userspace |
14:22.08 | frankdrey | Hmm, how fast is the tg01's sd card reader? |
14:22.09 | phh | userspace driver isn't kernel driver, obviously |
14:22.16 | Sleep_Walker | Willd: thanks! |
14:22.38 | phh | zeusk_: and erm, everyone is exporting most stuff to userspace ... |
14:22.39 | zeusk_ | but you do need some hooks in kernel to implement such outrageous crap, so that part will be open sourced atleast. |
14:22.40 | Sleep_Walker | zeusk_: yes, kernel driver loading blob can be GPL |
14:23.08 | phh | but doesn't have to. |
14:23.10 | zeusk_ | phh, my intel and via use KMS |
14:23.20 | phh | zeusk_: so 2D is in kernel ok |
14:23.22 | phh | like with qualcomm |
14:23.27 | phh | but 3D is done by mesa driver. |
14:23.44 | Willd | Sleep_Walker: https://developer.qualcomm.com/mobile-development/mobile-technologies/gaming-graphics-optimization-adreno/tools-and-resources |
14:23.47 | Willd | Sleep_Walker: Check there first |
14:25.20 | zeusk_ | phh, iirc even 2D is done in userspace for yamato, blitting is handled by mdp |
14:25.34 | phh | mdp is a kernel driver ... |
14:25.47 | zeusk_ | but blitting is not all |
14:25.59 | phh | what do you mean ? |
14:26.12 | phh | you just do a ioctl(framebuffer, blit, {source buffer, dest address, flags}) |
14:26.14 | zeusk_ | there are many more 2D operations aside from blitting |
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14:27.33 | phh | you're telling me kms is more than bliting ? |
14:27.36 | zeusk_ | and there is actually not much code for blitting, they just write the values to memory mapped register |
14:27.40 | frankdrey | Well, bye peeps, see ya Monday :P |
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14:27.53 | zeusk_ | I told 2D has more to it than just blitting |
14:28.01 | phh | i know |
14:28.32 | phh | and kms is doing more than that ? i mean from the name it should only do that |
14:28.55 | zeusk_ | i dunno much about graphics but I'm sure KMS is more than just blitting in kernel |
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21:18.12 | Sleep_Walker | anyone awake? |
21:18.24 | Sleep_Walker | I'm a bit fighting with framebuffer console |
21:28.50 | NetRipper | left uppercut usually does the trick |
21:30.49 | Cotulla | :D |
21:33.28 | Cotulla | no everyone is sleeping. do not walk in their dreams pls. |
21:37.38 | NetRipper | (just ask) |
21:38.17 | NetRipper | worst thing that happens is that nobody answers or knows the answer :p |
21:40.59 | Sleep_Walker | the worst is that someone know the answer but is not willing to answer :b |
21:41.29 | Sleep_Walker | when I enable framebuffer console in kernel, I can no longer boot |
21:42.09 | Sleep_Walker | I'm using android kernel with slightly modified configuration |
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21:51.02 | helicopter88 | how to change out of memory settings in ics/jb ? |
21:52.20 | NetRipper | yea because the graphics driver generally doesn't support framebuffer |
21:52.28 | NetRipper | you write to the console way too early when framebuffer is enabled |
21:52.31 | NetRipper | causing panics |
21:52.36 | Sleep_Walker | aha |
21:52.44 | NetRipper | for htc leo we created a seperate framebuffer driver |
21:53.11 | Sleep_Walker | maybe it can be reused on my device |
21:53.40 | Sleep_Walker | hm, different CPU |
21:53.51 | Sleep_Walker | same GPU |
21:54.08 | Sleep_Walker | NetRipper: is the code in upstream kernel? |
21:54.22 | NetRipper | no idea, i've been out of it for longer than a year |
21:54.28 | NetRipper | let me look it up in some old repo |
21:54.35 | Sleep_Walker | thanks :) |
21:55.40 | NetRipper | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/htc_fb_console.c;h=bbc28751328819f2059827259a5f3799c2aceb11;hb=bdcce1975df64898625b67b339237e7ea6d8799f |
21:56.06 | NetRipper | thats quite an old driver we made and used for the htc framebuffer |
21:56.08 | NetRipper | leo |
21:56.31 | NetRipper | "This console driver is not a full blown console driver. This is to provide |
21:56.33 | NetRipper | an early boot console for debugging." |
21:56.52 | NetRipper | memory addresses will likely be different |
21:56.55 | NetRipper | its SoC specific usually |
21:57.12 | NetRipper | so in this case qsd8250 (iirc) specific |
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22:01.15 | Sleep_Walker | NetRipper: thank you very much |
22:01.21 | NetRipper | hope it helps |
22:07.36 | Sleep_Walker | how far did you get with leo? |
22:08.52 | Sleep_Walker | did you solve accessing GSM/CDMA? |
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