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| 02:04.00 | walter79 | can someone help with this http://pastebin.com/dmC0vcrV jelly bean on htc leo ? |
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| 16:10.33 | constintine | Yo i've got a htc leo i'm trying to get bt5 running with haRET |
| 16:11.38 | constintine | anyone here wanna get in on this :P |
| 16:12.54 | walter79 | bt5 ? |
| 16:16.08 | constintine | backtrack 5 |
| 16:16.43 | constintine | we got ubuntu up on the hd 2 but what about a pulse audio driver? |
| 16:17.38 | Cotulla | I did ALSA driver long time ago |
| 16:17.57 | constintine | the great Cotulla :) |
| 16:18.02 | constintine | bows |
| 16:18.34 | constintine | i cant seem to get it to work, wanna help out? my leo has bad blocks :( |
| 16:19.03 | marc1706 | constintine: if your leo doesn't have bad blocks something is wrong with it :P |
| 16:19.15 | Cotulla | what doest not work? |
| 16:19.23 | marc1706 | it's nand, it is allowed to have bad blocks ... |
| 16:19.32 | constintine | lol @ marc1706 it just got bad blocks last month :( |
| 16:19.39 | Cotulla | yes marc is right . . . |
| 16:19.47 | Cotulla | but some bad blocks can be 'fake' ones |
| 16:19.57 | Cotulla | which appear from software problems |
| 16:20.00 | constintine | but i can't install a android distro |
| 16:20.20 | Cotulla | oh I talked with one guy before - he also has problems with android installations |
| 16:20.26 | Cotulla | but I didn't find a root case |
| 16:20.45 | marc1706 | how many bad blocks do you have? bad blocks should be handled by yaffs driver AFAIK |
| 16:20.47 | constintine | well, i can but the /data partition is where i got bad blocks so it acts erratic |
| 16:21.19 | marc1706 | I got 2 more bad blocks after going from magldr -> winmo -> magldr |
| 16:21.42 | marc1706 | still no issues with android |
| 16:21.52 | constintine | i tried repartitioning but i cant locate the right partition scheme to get a good /data partition |
| 16:22.05 | Cotulla | my LEO has around |
| 16:22.07 | Cotulla | let me check |
| 16:22.12 | constintine | but i have used clK |
| 16:22.37 | Cotulla | it maybe a root cause of bad blocks :D |
| 16:22.47 | marc1706 | hehe |
| 16:22.50 | marc1706 | don't let zeusk read this |
| 16:22.53 | constintine | WAIT haha i have a spare mobo for my leo! |
| 16:23.02 | Cotulla | why? |
| 16:23.08 | constintine | damn... nevermind it needs a usbport... |
| 16:23.18 | constintine | i keep spare parts lol |
| 16:23.20 | marc1706 | cause he at least used to work on cLK |
| 16:23.22 | Cotulla | I have 25 bad blocks on LEO1024 :( |
| 16:23.28 | marc1706 | n1 |
| 16:23.34 | Cotulla | http://pastebin.com/0tKPeNj7 |
| 16:23.36 | marc1706 | I'm only at 3 |
| 16:23.41 | constintine | wow 25? i have one that causes me hell |
| 16:23.43 | Cotulla | bad maybe they are fake |
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| 16:24.05 | marc1706 | 1 bad block shouldn't cause your issues ^^ |
| 16:24.23 | Cotulla | I am usually adding some fake bad blocks during MAGLDR testing to be sure code can handle them |
| 16:24.31 | marc1706 | hehe |
| 16:24.53 | marc1706 | btw, how is the magldr2 testing going? |
| 16:25.09 | Cotulla | I am implementing WP support now |
| 16:25.21 | marc1706 | WP on SD? |
| 16:25.26 | Cotulla | both |
| 16:25.28 | Cotulla | NAND & SD versions |
| 16:25.31 | constintine | it does all kinds of hell like i said its the location of the block that gives me hell hey i'll gladly test Cotulla |
| 16:25.43 | marc1706 | having WP on SD would be nice tbh |
| 16:25.44 | Cotulla | actually kernel skip them |
| 16:26.02 | Cotulla | constintine, did u try to run yaffs2 check if it exists? |
| 16:26.16 | Cotulla | WM already working from SD nice |
| 16:26.36 | walter79 | wm from sd sounds good |
| 16:26.45 | walter79 | what about locked sdcards |
| 16:26.47 | walter79 | ? |
| 16:26.51 | constintine | i flashed winmo back, how can i run yaffs2 check? |
| 16:27.03 | Cotulla | new MAGLDR will have option inside services to unlock cards . . . |
| 16:27.05 | constintine | i know i gta flash android back first |
| 16:27.21 | Cotulla | it's half done however |
| 16:27.31 | Cotulla | show always error, but card is unlocked after reset :D |
| 16:27.35 | marc1706 | sounds like a nice piece of software (booloader++) |
| 16:27.43 | constintine | :) nice |
| 16:28.06 | Cotulla | with up to 12 OS support :D |
| 16:28.15 | Cotulla | the idea is simple |
| 16:28.19 | constintine | 12 os? |
| 16:28.22 | Cotulla | yes |
| 16:28.23 | walter79 | great |
| 16:28.27 | Cotulla | u can divide NAND and SD to "regions" |
| 16:28.33 | constintine | nice |
| 16:28.38 | Cotulla | like u are doing partitions on PC |
| 16:28.48 | Cotulla | and u can install one OS to one region |
| 16:28.56 | constintine | buys a 32gb sdcard and waits patiently |
| 16:28.57 | walter79 | what about windows phone 8 ? |
| 16:29.16 | Cotulla | like if u have SD card 8 Gb u can divide it by 2 Gb and 6 Gb regions and install to OS there |
| 16:29.25 | constintine | wow yeah windows 8 will support arm |
| 16:29.50 | constintine | i have 2x 16gb cards |
| 16:29.51 | marc1706 | hopes they are still using the leo as dev device |
| 16:30.02 | Cotulla | as well one region on SD card can be "Common" - it's formatted to FAT32 and can be used to share data betwen different OSes |
| 16:30.18 | Cotulla | this region also availble via USB MS from MAGLDR |
| 16:30.34 | walter79 | perfect |
| 16:30.42 | constintine | Cotulla, how would i go about getting audio up on a linux distro? |
| 16:30.47 | Cotulla | but ofcourse all that is design goals, later I got some problems |
| 16:30.56 | Cotulla | like WP7 always need around 20 megabytes on NAND |
| 16:31.09 | Cotulla | so I added special WP7 Common region |
| 16:31.16 | Cotulla | but should be still nice :) |
| 16:31.25 | Cotulla | constintine, I did ALSA driver some time ago |
| 16:31.28 | Cotulla | and it worked |
| 16:31.40 | Cotulla | u should include it to kernel I think |
| 16:31.46 | constintine | i know, can i get src code? |
| 16:32.03 | constintine | i have the htclinux src for leo |
| 16:32.17 | Cotulla | http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/Linux/ |
| 16:32.31 | Cotulla | but it maybe was integrated by somebody to some git |
| 16:32.34 | Cotulla | but I dunno |
| 16:33.07 | walter79 | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=SnapdragoonAlsaDriver |
| 16:33.16 | Cotulla | ALSA_FIRST.rar |
| 16:33.20 | Cotulla | yes it s |
| 16:33.27 | constintine | i found it :) |
| 16:33.56 | Cotulla | ok |
| 16:34.01 | Cotulla | but I need leave for 1-2 hours |
| 16:34.03 | Cotulla | so cya |
| 16:34.18 | Cotulla | g00d 1uck |
| 16:34.23 | Cotulla | :D |
| 16:34.51 | constintine | ty :) cya nice chatting with yas Cotulla |
| 18:12.25 | Cotulla | back |
| 18:14.44 | constintine | hola |
| 18:15.17 | constintine | so magldr has correction for bad blocks @ Cotulla ? |
| 18:18.59 | Cotulla | what kind of ? |
| 18:20.38 | jonpry | some progress with the kexec: http://pastebin.com/BGnygJmH |
| 18:21.32 | constintine | oh like i was stating b4 i was using clK and one bad block is holding me back from having a usable android distro |
| 18:23.10 | Cotulla | how is it jonpry? |
| 18:23.21 | jonpry | well it dies there |
| 18:23.43 | jonpry | and it seems like something is wrong with zones |
| 18:24.00 | jonpry | real kernel has <7>[ 0.000000] On node 0 totalpages: 131072 |
| 18:24.17 | Cotulla | I dunno about LK, but in MAGLDR I never mark bad blocks to avoid fatal problems |
| 18:24.26 | Cotulla | and boot is supported with bad blocks yes |
| 18:24.53 | Cotulla | but it's 512 mb? |
| 18:24.55 | Cotulla | jonpru |
| 18:24.58 | Cotulla | jonpry |
| 18:25.26 | constintine | leo1024 |
| 18:25.35 | jonpry | yes Cotulla |
| 18:25.54 | constintine | i ought to have plenty of room for a few bad blocks |
| 18:26.02 | jonpry | but on my kernel node 0 is detected as 32k pages |
| 18:27.31 | constintine | grrr |
| 18:27.40 | constintine | hrm... |
| 18:28.24 | Cotulla | I think u should try to check YAFFS2 |
| 18:28.29 | Cotulla | maybe there is a tool for that |
| 18:28.38 | Cotulla | but linux kernel also doesn't not mark bad blocks |
| 18:34.38 | constintine | I'm currently on wince 6.1 pro |
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| 18:40.12 | Cotulla | WM u mean |
| 18:40.15 | Cotulla | ? |
| 18:40.31 | detule | jonpry, here's mine http://pastebin.com/C2U8uxrW |
| 18:43.31 | jonpry | your kexecng it? |
| 18:44.09 | detule | i am trying to get kexec going....i can't seem to pull ram_console after flashing things via odin |
| 18:44.25 | wk-- | Cotulla: got any exciting news for HD2? |
| 18:44.33 | wk-- | thinking about selling mine |
| 18:44.43 | wk-- | except the WM65 on SD ;) |
| 18:46.17 | constintine | yea Cotulla |
| 18:47.13 | jonpry | detule, looks pretty bad |
| 18:47.20 | constintine | see thats an issue @ Cotulla how do i fix the fact linux doesnt mark bad blocks ? |
| 18:47.23 | jonpry | add new kexec patches? |
| 18:49.38 | detule | yeah no Bye...that's my barometer at how bad things are |
| 18:49.45 | Cotulla | what is exfat_fs? |
| 18:49.48 | Cotulla | :O |
| 18:49.53 | detule | samsung prop module |
| 18:50.07 | Cotulla | ExFat ? |
| 18:50.09 | Cotulla | filesystem |
| 18:50.26 | detule | yeah somethign about 64gb sdcard filesystems |
| 18:50.39 | Cotulla | good |
| 18:51.06 | constintine | geez this git repo is SLOW |
| 18:51.15 | constintine | 4kbps |
| 18:51.19 | constintine | thats crap |
| 18:55.02 | Cotulla | no good ExFAT open source implementation |
| 18:56.11 | detule | jonpry, you passing anything to kexec -l other than zImage and initrd .... do you need to specify the load address? |
| 18:57.00 | jonpry | i also pass the devtree |
| 18:58.47 | Cotulla | devtree whyy |
| 19:00.44 | jonpry | all the cool arch's are doing it |
| 19:01.18 | Cotulla | is it that new XML crap? |
| 19:02.41 | jonpry | nah its binary |
| 19:02.49 | Cotulla | Apple way |
| 19:03.05 | Cotulla | but hey Windows NT also supports ACPI tables |
| 19:03.56 | wk-- | wonder how much WP8 has changed |
| 19:04.23 | Cotulla | they wrote that it on Windows NT kernel |
| 19:04.37 | wk-- | yeah i saw that |
| 19:07.01 | Cotulla | that means totally new |
| 19:07.24 | wk-- | doubt it'll run on hd2 |
| 19:07.46 | wk-- | maybe we're finally seeing EOL |
| 19:09.14 | Cotulla | dunno |
| 19:09.41 | Cotulla | ofcourse a new models a more powerful |
| 19:10.04 | wk-- | yeah.. i can't run ICS on it anymore, too slow |
| 19:10.10 | wk-- | 2.3.7/wp7 |
| 19:10.24 | Cotulla | it's android/google problem :) |
| 19:10.32 | wk-- | might go for the huawei ascend d quad / ZTE, cheap t3 phone |
| 19:18.18 | jonpry | detule, i've been going through this kexec code. and at least on .35 i can't see how it would work on a 2g split. they seem to assume that ram_phys is much lower than kernel_virt |
| 19:21.42 | Cotulla | so did u found who changed those bitchy registers? |
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| 19:31.59 | zeusk_ | marc1706, though i doubt lk is behind cause of bad blocks, but it sure is shit... most stuff is re-implemented and is not so good. |
| 19:33.23 | jonpry | Cotulla, nobody. they just have no effect if a bit somewhere else is set |
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| 19:49.52 | bardzusny | hey #htc-linux |
| 20:07.43 | constintine | asks politely what os Cotulla runs on his desktop/laptop :P |
| 20:08.25 | Cotulla | answered politely also - W7 |
| 20:10.01 | constintine | interesting enough :P whats wrong with gnu/linux? |
| 20:10.46 | constintine | geez i hate Samsung's |
| 20:11.06 | Cotulla | wrong . . . attitude I think |
| 20:11.21 | constintine | attitude? who :P |
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| 20:11.57 | Cotulla | no backward compatible in most cases and etc |
| 20:12.52 | constintine | ahh linux, i dont get it so many great devs on windoze my buddy is a freebsd nut and a c programmer but he is currently running all windoze machines aside from one imac server |
| 20:13.03 | constintine | er rather a imac as a server |
| 20:13.17 | Cotulla | lol |
| 20:13.43 | constintine | i haven't used windows since xp :p |
| 20:13.48 | Cotulla | :) |
| 20:13.49 | constintine | vm's if i do |
| 20:14.06 | Cotulla | u tell it like it's reason to be proud . . . :D |
| 20:14.37 | Cotulla | but ofcourse who is judge |
| 20:14.39 | Cotulla | ÆÇ |
| 20:14.41 | Cotulla | :P |
| 20:14.59 | constintine | :P very proud |
| 20:15.23 | Cotulla | heh why? |
| 20:15.34 | bardzusny | every man to his own |
| 20:15.40 | Cotulla | right |
| 20:15.46 | constintine | i know im different but microsoft is ridiculous and hp is even more so |
| 20:15.53 | bardzusny | linux nut |
| 20:16.06 | Cotulla | haha |
| 20:17.06 | Cotulla | I don't think so . . . MS has resources. a lot of resources to do great things. |
| 20:17.20 | constintine | granted, there are ups and downs to every OS... i do dislike having to run vm's but i wont let windows touch my hdd :P (also for another reason :P) |
| 20:17.28 | Cotulla | yes it is |
| 20:17.34 | Cotulla | Linux is free from the other side |
| 20:17.56 | constintine | ext2fs has "issues" when it comes to data recovery |
| 20:18.09 | Cotulla | lol u full of prejudice? :D |
| 20:18.22 | constintine | na |
| 20:18.31 | constintine | just like my privacy |
| 20:18.37 | bardzusny | constintine are you referencing ext2 drivers for win? |
| 20:18.41 | constintine | no |
| 20:18.53 | constintine | ext2 as a fs |
| 20:18.59 | bardzusny | that's true |
| 20:19.00 | constintine | if that makes it more clear |
| 20:19.06 | Cotulla | u think open source means full privacy? |
| 20:19.11 | constintine | no |
| 20:19.15 | constintine | i didnt say that |
| 20:19.24 | Cotulla | so |
| 20:19.26 | constintine | it has to be configured correctly :P |
| 20:19.33 | Cotulla | why u think privacy on linux is better than windows? |
| 20:20.07 | constintine | windows has too many security issues |
| 20:20.08 | bardzusny | but no one uses ext2 anymore |
| 20:20.30 | Cotulla | but all those OSes have a bad privacy via maul-hack :D |
| 20:20.40 | constintine | simple as that and the filesystems are easy to pull data from and i use ext2 |
| 20:20.53 | Cotulla | constintine, what kind of issues? |
| 20:21.29 | bardzusny | constintine why do you use ext2 when you say it has data integrity issues? (because it has, try cutting power off abruptly several times) |
| 20:21.33 | constintine | microsoft pushes out code too fast to forsee all the possible isses |
| 20:21.42 | constintine | no |
| 20:21.45 | bardzusny | I just joined the discussion and may have missed the bigger context |
| 20:21.45 | constintine | lol |
| 20:22.06 | Cotulla | what u mean under "too fast"? |
| 20:22.36 | Cotulla | but it's generally problem of people . . . not of company |
| 20:22.46 | Cotulla | company can only make some improvements to the process |
| 20:22.53 | Cotulla | but it can be not really effective |
| 20:22.55 | bardzusny | Cotulla, every commercial software must make compromise between releasing as fast as possible and code quality |
| 20:23.02 | bardzusny | I'm not sure how Microsoft handles this |
| 20:23.47 | constintine | nevermind, look NTFS is easy to pull data from in a forensic lab ext2 if encrypted is difficult to determine files or pull data from if you use dd to wipe the hdd |
| 20:24.18 | Cotulla | every open source software must make compromise between releasing as fast as possible, show off to pulbic and a hot dinner at the table which waits developer at the end of coding :P |
| 20:24.39 | Cotulla | can u make decision what is worse? I can't. |
| 20:24.56 | constintine | lol |
| 20:25.04 | bardzusny | that's a point, but there's diversity in these attitudes, as in everything, when it comes to open source |
| 20:25.20 | bardzusny | there are linux distributions that don't get released until every critical bug is fixed |
| 20:25.43 | Cotulla | someone also defines term'critical bug' still . . . |
| 20:25.50 | bardzusny | ...and then there are those that always stay on bleeding edge |
| 20:26.08 | Cotulla | and did u check that? or u just read about that somewhere? |
| 20:26.16 | Cotulla | I am sure if both OSes a lot of bugs |
| 20:26.34 | Cotulla | ever critical |
| 20:26.35 | constintine | Cotulla, there are very stable very reliable operating systems, i know you preffer windows, i preffer a *nix os we'll not argue which evil is worse :P |
| 20:26.57 | bardzusny | Debian stable is always cited as gold standard |
| 20:27.07 | Cotulla | maybe |
| 20:27.23 | bardzusny | anyway, to each his own |
| 20:27.41 | bardzusny | I have a friend I work with, we work on linux |
| 20:27.42 | constintine | I am running Debian but debian is not so stable anymore since they pushed for a 6mo release schedule |
| 20:27.52 | bardzusny | lately he confessed to me that he uses windows at home |
| 20:27.59 | Cotulla | but the best thing is to analize things by urself and not just take words on the fly |
| 20:28.01 | bardzusny | I mean, windows is not a bad os |
| 20:28.06 | Cotulla | a lot of people still do that |
| 20:28.19 | bardzusny | just that for some people "closed" and "non-unix" equals "bad" |
| 20:28.35 | bardzusny | (me :) ) |
| 20:28.35 | Cotulla | yes |
| 20:29.01 | constintine | i analyze :P i just dropped windows when vista came out cause what os NEEDS 2gb of ram to run? |
| 20:29.25 | Cotulla | u think Ubuntu needs less RAM? :D |
| 20:29.43 | constintine | im not running ubuntu but i have run ubuntu on a system with 256m ram and a p3 |
| 20:30.15 | Cotulla | I know that my old Ubuntu (without new UI) it did not run good on 512 RAM. after few hours it becomes laggy until reset. |
| 20:30.32 | Cotulla | increasing ram to 1 Gb helps |
| 20:30.43 | constintine | gnome? |
| 20:30.48 | constintine | or unity? |
| 20:30.51 | Cotulla | yes with gnome |
| 20:30.53 | Cotulla | not unity |
| 20:31.02 | constintine | gnome2 has a memory leak |
| 20:31.09 | Cotulla | lol |
| 20:31.19 | bardzusny | I think we can generalize that to "increasing ram helps" |
| 20:31.25 | Cotulla | yes |
| 20:31.31 | constintine | sometimes |
| 20:31.34 | Cotulla | and UI looks like XP in general |
| 20:31.44 | Cotulla | well |
| 20:31.49 | constintine | on which :P lol |
| 20:32.03 | constintine | i have 3gb ram 5gb swap |
| 20:32.11 | Cotulla | my UMPC has Vista and 1 Gb of RAM. it's enough for smooth run. |
| 20:32.27 | Cotulla | answer to "what os NEEDS 2gb of ram to run" :) |
| 20:32.56 | Cotulla | as well I don't think I need a lot of free RAM - it must be used as cache to improve speed |
| 20:33.03 | Cotulla | I don't need a numbers in free column |
| 20:33.43 | constintine | i use facial recognition on the laptop and if i accidentally run gksu it eats all my ram and cpu in an instant cause gksu does not allow the facial recognition to run properly lol |
| 20:34.01 | Cotulla | I don't really think that linux needs less memory than Windows at all |
| 20:34.02 | constintine | i use instead gksu-polkit |
| 20:34.11 | Cotulla | (with simular abilities, we are not talking about firmware for router without GUI and etc) |
| 20:34.35 | Cotulla | lol |
| 20:34.50 | ali1234 | you're not far wrong if you compare current versions |
| 20:34.54 | constintine | it depends Cotulla have a look at puppy linux |
| 20:35.06 | bardzusny | I think to truly fall in love with linux you need to adapt completely different attitude |
| 20:35.16 | Cotulla | I am not going to tell that Windows needs less ram or etc |
| 20:35.23 | constintine | it does depend on ui too |
| 20:35.27 | ali1234 | however if you compare eg windows xp with linux from 2001, linux wins hands down |
| 20:35.33 | bardzusny | lightweight window managers, command line, etc. - fall in love with all these things that aren't on other systems |
| 20:35.39 | Cotulla | I wanna tell that a lot of people spread fake opinions about things. |
| 20:35.58 | constintine | im not spreading anything lol |
| 20:36.15 | Cotulla | but I am sure everyone is affected by it :P |
| 20:36.38 | constintine | my system runs at an idle 128m ram and i have gnome 2 :P |
| 20:37.10 | constintine | the world runs on linux Cotulla :) the world |
| 20:37.25 | Cotulla | like u open XDA and u read such articles like that: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/qualcomm-releases-proprietary-api-extensions/ |
| 20:37.30 | ali1234 | xp had 128mb minimum requirement at release, but within 2 years the minimum anyone would buy was 1GB |
| 20:37.51 | ali1234 | cos XP on 128mb really really sucks |
| 20:38.02 | Cotulla | with modern apps u mean> |
| 20:38.03 | Cotulla | ? |
| 20:38.32 | Cotulla | it's not only question of OS, it's also question of applications and developers |
| 20:38.44 | ali1234 | oh, and if you wanna read some statements that are full of holes, just ask anyone about UEFI secure boot |
| 20:39.04 | ali1234 | nobody, i mean NOBODY understands it properly. at least not any of the people talking about it |
| 20:39.37 | Cotulla | hehe |
| 20:39.40 | bardzusny | UEFI? aka stfu and use only our os? |
| 20:39.45 | ali1234 | yeah that one |
| 20:39.55 | Cotulla | my PC has UEFI bios pfff |
| 20:40.00 | bardzusny | is it going through? I'm uninformed. |
| 20:40.01 | ali1234 | yeah |
| 20:40.09 | ali1234 | windows 8 will require it |
| 20:40.17 | Cotulla | what about old systems? |
| 20:40.36 | Cotulla | or it does not true for X86? |
| 20:40.41 | ali1234 | sorry. what i meant to say was windows 8 certified machines must support it |
| 20:40.49 | Cotulla | it's different thing :) |
| 20:40.50 | ali1234 | so windows 8 will run on old machines |
| 20:40.50 | bardzusny | and there will be no going around it? hard-locked? |
| 20:41.04 | Cotulla | they tell that gonna sign Ubuntu also |
| 20:41.07 | Cotulla | if I am not wrong |
| 20:41.34 | ali1234 | yes thats what they said |
| 20:41.47 | ali1234 | but they also said they will get their bootloader, which loads unsigned kernels, signed |
| 20:41.54 | ali1234 | if they do that then it makes signing completely pointless |
| 20:41.59 | Cotulla | dunno yes they are moving. everycompany wants it |
| 20:42.06 | ali1234 | so basically what canonical said they want to do, microsoft will not let them |
| 20:42.17 | Cotulla | and hey . . . it's already on Android which comes with linux |
| 20:42.28 | bardzusny | I don't like the sound of it. |
| 20:42.42 | Cotulla | what diff between UEFI and some locked bootloader in some Android device? |
| 20:42.49 | constintine | look there is always a way around it |
| 20:42.55 | Cotulla | hacks |
| 20:42.58 | ali1234 | bardzusny: certification specifically says that x86 machines must allow it to be turned off and/or reset to setup mode (where you can load your own key) |
| 20:43.13 | Cotulla | so it's not a problem |
| 20:43.22 | ali1234 | however the certification spec also says it must NOT be possible to do either of those things on arm |
| 20:43.29 | ali1234 | it's totally not a problem on x86, no |
| 20:43.43 | Cotulla | yes and it has nothing wrong |
| 20:43.43 | ali1234 | in fact since you can load your own platform key it's actually a good thing for everyone |
| 20:44.13 | ali1234 | but this didn't stop everyone shittig a brick and doing uninformed rants about it :) |
| 20:44.24 | Cotulla | :D |
| 20:44.35 | constintine | uefi needs 4 primary partitions if im not mistaken or is that windows 8? |
| 20:44.45 | ali1234 | i guess that's windows 8 |
| 20:44.50 | Cotulla | UEFI don't carry about partitions at all |
| 20:44.54 | ali1234 | uefi only needs 1 FAT partition |
| 20:45.02 | constintine | thats what i thought |
| 20:45.04 | Cotulla | it can run without partitions at all |
| 20:45.13 | ali1234 | actually it does; it loads the bootloader from FAT partition, rather than the MBR/boot record |
| 20:45.14 | constintine | no not to boot |
| 20:45.26 | constintine | needs the fat partition |
| 20:45.31 | ali1234 | MAC UEFI also supports MAC FS whatever that is called |
| 20:45.38 | ali1234 | HPFS or something |
| 20:45.38 | Cotulla | yeah but maybe I am going to play tetris in UEFI ;) |
| 20:45.46 | Cotulla | HFS+? |
| 20:45.50 | constintine | hfsplus |
| 20:45.51 | ali1234 | yeah |
| 20:46.02 | ali1234 | but that's an apple extension, not in the spec |
| 20:46.12 | Cotulla | closed module? |
| 20:46.17 | ali1234 | dunno |
| 20:46.43 | ali1234 | the spec only says FAT... it also says that signing method is MS authenticode |
| 20:46.43 | Cotulla | so u like UEFI? |
| 20:46.47 | constintine | m4dh4x0r |
| 20:46.50 | constintine | ooops |
| 20:46.58 | ali1234 | i don't much like how it's just a collection of MS standards |
| 20:47.00 | Cotulla | his password . . . lets go |
| 20:47.04 | Cotulla | go go go |
| 20:47.05 | ali1234 | but there's nothing technically bad about it |
| 20:47.14 | Cotulla | sector clear! cuz it's erased . . . |
| 20:47.29 | m4dh4x0r | go go go! |
| 20:47.33 | Cotulla | follw me |
| 20:47.43 | Cotulla | pif-paf |
| 20:47.49 | Cotulla | :D |
| 20:48.01 | m4dh4x0r | let me play with the new maglrd Cotulla |
| 20:48.10 | m4dh4x0r | oops magldr |
| 20:48.37 | Cotulla | not yet time comes |
| 20:49.13 | m4dh4x0r | please please please :P GO GO GO! lol how can i get on the list ? |
| 20:50.22 | m4dh4x0r | offers sexual favors from his lil brothers ex as compensation for magldr |
| 20:50.27 | m4dh4x0r | :P |
| 20:50.51 | Cotulla | pervert? :O |
| 20:51.15 | m4dh4x0r | lol |
| 20:51.23 | m4dh4x0r | hey she isnt my ex :P |
| 20:51.39 | Cotulla | she was a pervert? :O |
| 20:52.04 | m4dh4x0r | retracts previous offer and fucking kinky bitch wanted both of us to fuck her at the same time |
| 20:52.11 | Cotulla | :O |
| 20:52.27 | m4dh4x0r | i was like cmon thats my lil broter wtf? |
| 20:52.28 | Cotulla | I read it as: "m4dh4x0r refactored previous offer" |
| 20:52.36 | Cotulla | :O |
| 20:52.38 | m4dh4x0r | lol |
| 20:53.10 | Cotulla | back to USB code . . . |
| 20:53.21 | m4dh4x0r | say... |
| 20:54.01 | Cotulla | the truth is too awful |
| 20:54.04 | Cotulla | I won't |
| 20:54.11 | m4dh4x0r | magldr had no support for cwm reboot into recover can you change that ? or not in the plans ? |
| 20:54.27 | m4dh4x0r | what truth lol |
| 20:54.48 | Cotulla | there was memory tag? |
| 20:55.40 | m4dh4x0r | im not sure... all i knows is clK it worked but clK has ppp issues |
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| 20:56.32 | Cotulla | yes I can implement it via same way |
| 20:56.41 | bardzusny | bye all |
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| 20:56.45 | Cotulla | it's actually just LK . . . |
| 20:57.45 | m4dh4x0r | LK ? am i using a old bootloader :P |
| 21:07.13 | m4dh4x0r | lol im using google play to harass someone who stole my lil brothers phone |
| 21:07.23 | m4dh4x0r | he is still signed in to google |
| 21:07.50 | m4dh4x0r | so im downloading a shitload of where's my phone and phone finder software |
| 21:09.51 | Cotulla | where are u from? |
| 21:18.39 | m4dh4x0r | bbl |
| 21:18.49 | m4dh4x0r | im in tx :P |
| 21:19.06 | m4dh4x0r | Cotulla, i gotta run duces #htclinux |
| 21:19.30 | Cotulla | in tramsmitt? |
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| 21:27.32 | detule | jonpry, why the problems with the large offset, isn't it all somehow magically accounted for in kexec_boot_atags |
| 21:30.35 | jonpry | i don't think it can get that far |
| 21:30.51 | jonpry | because it can't or at least doesn't setup the identity mapping |
| 21:31.51 | detule | i think my guy is failing a bit earlier than that, but I am sure i'll see what you mean if i ever get past whatever it's causing it to crash |
| 21:32.37 | jonpry | whats causing it to crash is faulty page tables |
| 21:32.54 | jonpry | that thing about pmd = bad, is no good |
| 21:34.09 | Cotulla | what's up? |
| 21:37.05 | jonpry | [ 197.197314] [c010b0a4] *pgd=8021140e(bad) |
| 21:37.47 | jonpry | virtual address c010b0a4 should work |
| 21:38.04 | Cotulla | shared, cached write-back |
| 21:38.22 | Cotulla | hm |
| 21:38.28 | Cotulla | kernel is loaded at 8010 0000? |
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| 21:39.10 | Cotulla | where it happens? |
| 21:39.24 | jonpry | in kexec. http://pastebin.com/C2U8uxrW |
| 21:39.35 | jonpry | but i think machine_kexec has done something to the page tables |
| 21:40.01 | Cotulla | what is there? |
| 21:40.04 | Cotulla | do u have sources? |
| 21:40.10 | Cotulla | (machine_kexec+0x54/0x160) |
| 21:40.34 | Cotulla | start of function at c010af20 |
| 21:40.39 | jonpry | this is detule's project |
| 21:40.44 | jonpry | but yes there is source |
| 21:41.13 | Cotulla | so c010af20 + 160 = C010B080 |
| 21:41.27 | Cotulla | c010b0a4 is after |
| 21:41.31 | Cotulla | maybe LTORG area |
| 21:41.59 | Cotulla | can u show sources of machine_kexec? |
| 21:42.08 | detule | looks like stock machine_kexec from 3.0 |
| 21:42.32 | detule | http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/arch/arm/kernel/machine_kexec.c?v=3.0#L83 |
| 21:42.38 | Cotulla | http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/arch/arm/kernel/machine_kexec.c?v=3.0;a=arm |
| 21:42.43 | Cotulla | lol |
| 21:43.04 | detule | about to put some printk's in there though my ramconsole seems somewhat selective at what makes it there |
| 21:43.22 | Cotulla | better get disasm of it |
| 21:43.32 | walter79 | Cotulla: if you delete MBR of sdcard in Magdlr you can make new logic partion. |
| 21:43.49 | Cotulla | ? |
| 21:43.59 | walter79 | after using WP7.5 |
| 21:44.06 | Cotulla | hm? |
| 21:44.28 | walter79 | I tried with a NTFS partition. |
| 21:44.51 | Cotulla | what u mean under logic part? |
| 21:44.53 | jonpry | yeah that function can rock your world |
| 21:45.06 | jonpry | especially around setup_mm_for_reboot |
| 21:45.28 | Cotulla | it can sucks in any place |
| 21:45.36 | Cotulla | I think nobody tested it on MSM8960 |
| 21:45.43 | Cotulla | or it's OMAP? :O |
| 21:45.53 | jonpry | 8960 |
| 21:46.04 | jonpry | but i am having trouble on omap |
| 21:46.04 | Cotulla | <3 |
| 21:47.13 | walter79 | i create a logical partition and not a primary |
| 21:49.47 | Cotulla | but why |
| 21:52.24 | walter79 | sdcard was locked and i have no Nokia phone. with logical partiotion i can use the sdcard. |
| 21:54.25 | Cotulla | hm no? |
| 21:54.38 | Cotulla | if it locked it's impossible to write anything without unlock |
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| 22:03.05 | walter79 | and why i can use this "locked" sdcard in my normal card reader now? I can format it with SDFormater 3.0. and copy file to sdcard. |
| 22:03.42 | Cotulla | maybe it was in LEO with ROM which does not lock SD card? |
| 22:04.26 | walter79 | Pdaimatejam |
| 22:04.40 | walter79 | but i can make a new primary partition. |
| 22:05.11 | Cotulla | maybe it is |
| 22:06.20 | walter79 | after using SDFormater a have primary partition working. |
| 22:06.46 | walter79 | I should try a second locked card. |
| 22:07.32 | Cotulla | maybe it's not locked at all :) |
| 22:07.43 | Cotulla | most HD2 WP7 roms doesn't lock SD card |
| 22:08.51 | ali1234 | i thought the WP7 "lock" was just encryption |
| 22:09.02 | ali1234 | you should always be able to format it, no? |
| 22:10.30 | Cotulla | no |
| 22:10.36 | Cotulla | it's hardware SD card feature |
| 22:10.39 | Cotulla | CMD42 |
| 22:11.52 | Cotulla | most devices confused by such cards |
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| 22:53.33 | detule | hm there's a reboot notifier in here by samsung that gets called right before machine_kexec that flushes all caches |
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| 23:23.05 | jonpry | flushing caches is not really a problem |
| 23:42.50 | m4dh4x0r | yo yo |
| 23:42.56 | m4dh4x0r | is back :) |
| 23:53.02 | m4dh4x0r | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2073566/Screenshot.png |
| 23:53.09 | m4dh4x0r | damn i miss that box :/ |
