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16:08.49 | simpson|away | hi |
16:10.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | hi mortals |
16:10.27 | Cotulla | hi beachers |
16:10.56 | Cotulla | :D |
16:11.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | is that a word or what? |
16:14.28 | Cotulla | dunno |
16:14.45 | Cotulla | I call people who beach ship via that word |
16:21.38 | Willd | Who does what? |
16:24.57 | simpson | beach ship ? o.o |
16:25.11 | Willd | Russians.. |
16:25.16 | simpson | yep.. |
16:25.42 | Willd | Surely drunk too! |
16:25.55 | simpson | lol |
16:27.31 | zeusk | i need a name |
16:27.52 | zeusk | for some crap i'm going to write |
16:28.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk: Vladimir Putin |
16:33.43 | zeusk | hmm, that sounds nice, but isn't that name a trademark of russian prime minister ? |
16:38.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk: you will get executed for insulting our president |
16:38.48 | zeusk | :( |
16:39.26 | zeusk | oh, i thought he was re-elected as prime minster... fail. |
16:41.03 | zeusk | KGB badass http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Vladimir_Putin_in_KGB_uniform.jpg |
16:43.24 | Cotulla | thinks that zeusk has deep <3 to Vladimir Putin :O |
16:52.01 | zeusk | lol |
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17:06.45 | ccxCZ | did anybody try to reverse-engineer the radio firmware? I flashed the radio suggested by CM but it has massive power drain even in standby - I don't use cellular networks at all so it bothers me I can't just kill it off. From what I understand the radio chip works as the first stage system loader, so it needs to be present in some form at least. |
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17:11.56 | ccxCZ | fwiu it should be possible to replace the radio firmware with some generic bootloader for arm (assuming the gsm chip runs arm too) |
17:14.47 | zeusk | waste of time ccxCZ |
17:15.04 | zeusk | join qualcomm, leak all the code ? LOL |
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17:16.00 | zeusk | radio is more priviledged than apps core in msm devices, it is used for various purposes other than gsm stack |
17:16.46 | zeusk | iirc, even their APQ has a remote core (without GSM ?) |
17:17.10 | Cotulla | lol |
17:17.22 | Cotulla | I don't think u will able to fix anything. it's too complex things. |
17:20.08 | ccxCZ | yeah seems like it. reading http://cryptolux.org/media/deepsec-aybbabtu.pdf atm |
17:21.04 | ccxCZ | well, the radio chip seems to use known rtos, the radio is run as a layer upon that |
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17:25.01 | ccxCZ | this one specifically: http://wiki.ok-labs.com/ source: http://smartech.gatech.edu/bitstream/handle/1853/43766/davis_andrew_t_201205_ro.pdf |
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17:40.44 | Cotulla | and? |
17:42.02 | Cotulla | binary is 15 mb. imagine how many code is there inside |
17:55.30 | ccxCZ | the question is rather how much code is needed, but indeed this seems like wasted effort |
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17:58.21 | Cotulla | just imagine that linux kernel is only 5 mb |
17:58.25 | Cotulla | and here it's 3 times more |
18:01.58 | ccxCZ | and I assume it's Quallcom's own chip design, so there are no docs on the hw design |
18:03.05 | Cotulla | yes nothing public |
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23:44.25 | detule | jonpry, samsung already has the kernel source out for at&t sgs 3 .... ditch the droid |
23:44.45 | jonpry | i want gsm though |
23:45.22 | detule | eh? at&t |
23:46.24 | jonpry | or tmo. or if i decide to get lost in the 3rd world for awhile |
23:48.32 | detule | well plenty of sgs 3 on tmo and at&t...the line above was about the source for the at&t device...though i think the device for all US carriers is identical more or less |
23:49.27 | jonpry | hrm. i though the gsm version was exynos or something |
23:50.13 | detule | the international version is exynos...all us versions gsm and cdma are s4 krait |
23:50.19 | detule | across all carriers |
23:50.26 | jonpry | ic |
23:50.47 | detule | it's the new rhod |
23:52.07 | detule | we have whopping seven users on 3.4, judging by the number of people that have downloaded RndisToggler |
23:52.40 | jonpry | that will change when droid3 takes off |