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16:08.49simpson|awayhi
16:10.12Alex[sp3dev]hi mortals
16:10.27Cotullahi beachers
16:10.56Cotulla:D
16:11.04Alex[sp3dev]is that a word or what?
16:14.28Cotulladunno
16:14.45CotullaI call people who beach ship via that word
16:21.38WilldWho does what?
16:24.57simpsonbeach ship ? o.o
16:25.11WilldRussians..
16:25.16simpsonyep..
16:25.42WilldSurely drunk too!
16:25.55simpsonlol
16:27.31zeuski need a name
16:27.52zeuskfor some crap i'm going to write
16:28.44Alex[sp3dev]zeusk: Vladimir Putin
16:33.43zeuskhmm, that sounds nice, but isn't that name a trademark of russian prime minister ?
16:38.28Alex[sp3dev]zeusk: you will get executed for insulting our president
16:38.48zeusk:(
16:39.26zeuskoh, i thought he was re-elected as prime minster... fail.
16:41.03zeuskKGB badass http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Vladimir_Putin_in_KGB_uniform.jpg
16:43.24Cotullathinks that zeusk has deep <3 to Vladimir Putin :O
16:52.01zeusklol
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17:06.45ccxCZdid anybody try to reverse-engineer the radio firmware? I flashed the radio suggested by CM but it has massive power drain even in standby - I don't use cellular networks at all so it bothers me I can't just kill it off. From what I understand the radio chip works as the first stage system loader, so it needs to be present in some form at least.
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17:11.56ccxCZfwiu it should be possible to replace the radio firmware with some generic bootloader for arm (assuming the gsm chip runs arm too)
17:14.47zeuskwaste of time ccxCZ
17:15.04zeuskjoin qualcomm, leak all the code ? LOL
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17:16.00zeuskradio is more priviledged than apps core in msm devices, it is used for various purposes other than gsm stack
17:16.46zeuskiirc, even their APQ has a remote core (without GSM ?)
17:17.10Cotullalol
17:17.22CotullaI don't think u will able to fix anything. it's too complex things.
17:20.08ccxCZyeah seems like it. reading http://cryptolux.org/media/deepsec-aybbabtu.pdf atm
17:21.04ccxCZwell, the radio chip seems to use known rtos, the radio is run as a layer upon that
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17:25.01ccxCZthis one specifically: http://wiki.ok-labs.com/ source: http://smartech.gatech.edu/bitstream/handle/1853/43766/davis_andrew_t_201205_ro.pdf
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17:40.44Cotullaand?
17:42.02Cotullabinary is 15 mb. imagine how many code is there inside
17:55.30ccxCZthe question is rather how much code is needed, but indeed this seems like wasted effort
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17:58.21Cotullajust imagine that linux kernel is only 5 mb
17:58.25Cotullaand here it's 3 times more
18:01.58ccxCZand I assume it's Quallcom's own chip design, so there are no docs on the hw design
18:03.05Cotullayes nothing public
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23:44.25detulejonpry, samsung already has the kernel source out for at&t sgs 3 .... ditch the droid
23:44.45jonpryi want gsm though
23:45.22detuleeh? at&t
23:46.24jonpryor tmo. or if i decide to get lost in the 3rd world for awhile
23:48.32detulewell plenty of sgs 3 on tmo and at&t...the line above was about the source for the at&t device...though i think the device for all US carriers is identical more or less
23:49.27jonpryhrm. i though the gsm version was exynos or something
23:50.13detulethe international version is exynos...all us versions gsm and cdma are s4 krait
23:50.19detuleacross all carriers
23:50.26jonpryic
23:50.47detuleit's the new rhod
23:52.07detulewe have whopping seven users on 3.4, judging by the number of people that have downloaded RndisToggler
23:52.40jonprythat will change when droid3 takes off

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