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01:19.42detulethe volume of messages on the sgsiii development thread is ridiculous...
01:20.00detules/thread/subforum/
01:20.14jonprydid you get that beast yet?
01:20.30detuleno, living vicariously though people in europe that have theirs
01:21.07jonpryi think you should jump ship and get a d3
01:21.34detulewed to spring
01:21.48detules/spring/sprint/
01:21.56jonpryalthough i am starting to see the wisdom of 1gb
01:22.06detulehow about 2gb
01:22.07jonpryd3 can't work on sprint?
01:22.25jonpryno need for 2gb lol
01:22.28detulesprint only activates sprint devices apparently
01:22.37detulesgsiii apparently caries 2gb
01:23.16jonpryimpressive
01:23.31jonpryis euro sgsiii gsm?
01:24.32bardzusnyjonpry: no cdma in europe
01:24.34detuleyeah gsm only exynos quad core 1gb
01:24.50detuleusa = s4 dual core lte 2gb adreno 225
01:25.16bardzusnyI find it funny how dual core s4 matches every quad-core
01:25.22bardzusny(exynos, tegra...are there others?)
01:25.56jonpryd4 keyboard is so bad compared to rhod
01:26.01detuleqcom dual core is not quite the same as generic arm dual core
01:26.08jonpryi can't actually use it
01:26.20detulehow far is 3.4 on the droid?
01:30.22jonprystill waiting for the cable
01:33.13detulei am curious to see WisTilt2's autobuild stats
01:34.09jonpryseems to be down
01:40.02jonprymust be scheduled maintenance
01:40.17detule:) you order a new digitizer?
01:40.32detuleor should we start collecting donations
01:41.24jonpryi think they are only like $15
01:41.42jonpryi really don't know about replacing it though. peel off and glue on somehow?
01:42.27detulehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ4csh9CdZA
01:45.57jonprylol he broke the screen
01:48.37detuleyou can learn from his mistakes i guess :p
01:49.07jonprydon't have much to lose
01:49.13jonprymaybe i can get an auo panel
01:56.21jonpryi have this other theory too
01:56.33jonprylike somehow i pocket calibrated it
02:11.05jonpry10 points for anyone that knows how to recalibrate without having to touch anything
02:11.35detulewth is this https://github.com/android/kernel_common/blob/android-3.4/drivers/usb/otg/otg-wakelock.c
02:12.13jonpryvbus wakelock?
02:12.14detuledon't we override the toucschreen calibration by echoing to some sysfs entry?
02:12.30jonpryyeah but i can't boot haret
02:12.45jonpryi need to calibrate the mfg data
02:13.03detuleflash lk
02:13.50jonpryi suppose that is one option
02:14.36jonprythere has to be some spl kind of thing for doing this
02:21.21jonpryi got the alignment thing opened but it is not helping
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02:47.19detulemissing some wakelocks in mmc/core in 3.3 and better
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03:05.11jonpryhave the masses adopted 3.4 yet?
03:05.45detuleno autobuild = only one user
03:09.15detulegbx nand has ~400 clicks
03:09.41jonprypeople like it better than acl's nand only?
03:10.35detulefrom what i've heard our kernels have better battery life but omgb has cool features i guess
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03:31.55d3tul3jonpry, got usb tethering going
03:34.04d3tul3XdaRndisToggler ftw
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15:27.10arrrghhhd3tul3, detule - so what are the chances of ACL's batt driver magic getting ported?
15:27.19arrrghhhi've actually seen insane battery reports from folks running his kernel.
15:27.41arrrghhhi know you didn't want to immediately "take" it, but i'm sure he doesn't care :P  it's all for the greater good.
15:29.55jonpryinsane battery?
15:31.49detulei've seen one person mention something to that effect, with other reports saying otherwise
15:33.22detuleotherwise = battery life seems better on 3.x .... though it's likely reporting is far more accurate in acl's kernel
15:34.41detulelooks like WisTilt2 reset the autobuild
15:35.56arrrghhhwell with ACL's work i would assume the batt gauge would at least be a lot more accurate
15:36.07arrrghhhalso, the charging should actually work and fully charge it now hahaha
15:36.38jonpryi still think something is wrong with 3.x pm.c
15:37.57detulei think with the usb clock reshuffling in 3.4 we might be doing something better in terms of battery life
15:38.26detulepassing hs_clk as core_clk, who knows we might actually be shutting it down...
15:39.10arrrghhhhah
15:39.12jonprytry idle collapse again?
15:39.39detulethat won't really work with the new timer
15:39.43DuperManI usually collapse at full load
15:39.52DuperMangoddamn android
15:44.30detulethese new multi-core devices...even when hotplugging with these new governors, they all seem to make sure to leave one core on
15:48.19jonprylol
15:49.15jonpryneed that nr_cpu patch?
15:50.36detulei was just trying to make an analogy, perhaps a bad one, I don't really have high hopes of that ever working perfectly well on our single core
15:50.59detules/bad one/bad one, with our idle PC feature/
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15:55.37jonpryidle pc works on touchpad
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15:55.47jonpryi don't really see how its related to hotplug
15:55.59Cotullahotplug is very important thing yes
15:56.19detuledon't some of these new governors power down some of the cores ?
15:56.22jonpryit makes no sense to hotplug cpu0. you can't remove it from the scheduler or delete its page tables
15:56.32detuleok
15:56.56detulei thought i had read some comments about needing a core to maintain jiffies and some other basic functionality
15:57.41jonpryyou need a timer.c and rtc to take care of time issues if you turn power off of cpu0
15:58.02jonpryand an interrupt controller with some notion of wake
15:58.44detuleah right, and then keep syncing every time out of idle pc like 100 times a second like we did in the old timer
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15:59.51jonpryyeah fun stuff
16:35.04DuperManso.. Imma get First on 'ms tablet pc category funeral is funeral'?
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16:40.46Cotulla?
16:40.50Cotullau mean UMPC?
16:40.54CotullaI still have one
16:41.23jonprymsft surface tablet i think
16:56.52Cotullayes
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18:32.22zeuskhi
18:35.03Cotullahi sir
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18:40.23zeuski hope that STMF0 can run XIP binary, 8k ram seems less for threading purpose...
18:45.06Cotullafail?
18:46.58jonprycortex m4f?
18:54.06detulewhat's skyrocket, sgs ii?
19:02.05jonprythats what i could find
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19:07.03detulei think WisTilt2 needs to get back to his hobbies...
19:07.50detuleomap exynos and msm would look nice on 3.4
19:08.58jonprysomehow we need to pool our efforts though
19:09.30arrrghhhwhere has he been?
19:09.34arrrghhhi know he had some big project
19:10.15jonprygot a new company or something
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19:10.51arrrghhhoic
19:11.09arrrghhhi know he said he absorbed some company, and he was doing some cell radio wireless stuffs
19:11.22jonprymust be that work stuff
19:11.29jonprygetting in the way of htc-linux
19:12.01arrrghhhdamn work
19:12.48detuleyeah pooling efforts would be nice...some kind of skeletal device tree?
19:14.10jonpryi mean that we might get further if we all had the same phone
19:14.30jonprybut maybe that is just because d3 is such an uphill battle
19:14.33arrrghhhjonpry, buy me a phone :P
19:14.47arrrghhhbetter yet, get us all prypads hahaha
19:15.19Cotullabuy leo and join my club
19:15.20jonprywell i'm sure we can explain to the folks on xda what needs to happen and who needs to pay for it :p
19:15.21Cotulla:P
19:16.21detuledon't think the 5 rhod users can sponsor such a project
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19:17.35jonpryrhod users are probably not interested
19:17.55jonprymaybe like leo users
19:18.01jonprysince that thing is such old junk
19:18.16arrrghhhRHOD users are dead to me
19:18.17arrrghhhlol
19:18.19arrrghhh:P
19:18.23Cotullaare u dead?
19:18.32arrrghhhi am not a RHOD user anymore...
19:18.44arrrghhhat least not in the same capacity that i used to be
19:18.54Cotullawhat are u using now?
19:18.55arrrghhhi haven't touched that thing in a while.  i kinda miss it sometimes.  then i try to use it...
19:18.56Cotulladog bite
19:18.57Cotulla?
19:18.58arrrghhhgayPhone
19:19.01arrrghhhlol yes dog bite
19:19.07arrrghhhi find its best for organizing my calendar
19:19.12Cotullalol
19:19.14zeuskfail network..
19:19.20zeuskjonpry, it is cortex-m0
19:19.32Cotullau got it?
19:19.45zeusknot yet
19:19.51Cotullaheh
19:19.52zeusk3 more days..
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19:24.14zeuskis hw video decode working in ics for rhod ? (omx etc...)
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19:26.03arrrghhhzeusk, ics doesn't really work for RHOD
19:26.20arrrghhhsee how it runs on the G1, then get your hopes dashed :P
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19:26.38zeusklol
19:26.45Cotullavideo?
19:27.16zeuski'm torn apart between wp7.5 wm6.5 android4 and 2.3 leo has just so many choices...
19:27.27Cotullayes :)
19:27.36Cotullaor stay in MAGLDR F O R E V E R
19:27.37Cotulla:D
19:27.42zeusk:D
19:27.55Cotullawith new DOS-style UI
19:28.26zeuskMagical OS
19:28.32bardzusnyhaha :D
19:28.56bardzusnyCotulla, add sms and calling to magldr and I'm sold
19:28.56zeuskbtw cotulla, is the low sound bug fixed on wp ?
19:29.07Cotulla:D
19:29.17Cotullabut u will need type numbers in HEX
19:29.19Cotullaare u ready?>
19:29.21bardzusnysms, calling, tetris, real men don't need anything more
19:29.21Cotulla:D
19:30.26bardzusnygive me binary sms
19:30.34bardzusnyone button 1, other 0
19:30.36zeusk0x8F03
19:31.33Cotullano
19:31.36CotullaSMS only in octal!
19:31.41Cotullano easy life
19:31.42Cotullain MA OS
19:31.43CotullaD
19:31.44Cotulla:D
19:32.29zeusklol
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19:33.24Cotullaprivet Alexx
19:33.34arrrghhhlol
19:34.57bardzusnyahh russia
19:34.57zeuskarrrghhh you have 4S ?
19:35.21arrrghhhunfortunately
19:35.34Cotulladid u join iDroid already?
19:35.45arrrghhhno
19:35.53arrrghhhcan't really break this thing...
19:35.57arrrghhhno jailbreak :(
19:36.51bardzusnyiDroid won't ever get truly useful, sadly
19:37.29zeuski saw an ipod touch 4g lag on homescreen... (ios5.1)
19:37.42arrrghhhyea this thing lags randomly
19:37.46arrrghhhcompared to my RHOD tho... :P
19:38.04bardzusnyhaha
19:38.06zeuskyep, and multitasking is shit.
19:38.13bardzusnysoftware bloat is amazing...not long ago 2gb of ram was luxury (on pc)
19:38.40zeuskbardzushy, not long ago 64meg ram was luxury on phone
19:38.41bardzusnyand high-end phones were nokias with symbian and what, 64? 128 at most?
19:38.48bardzusnyyeah
19:39.04zeuskand then came touch HD, rhod, diamond and LEO :D
19:39.12detulehey now, easy on the rhod
19:39.47detulethis sucker will fly....might need to downgrade all the way to froyo or eclair....
19:40.03detulesomewhere where gapps isn't 50mb
19:40.04bardzusnyI just found out my favorite phone of all time had 32mb
19:40.10arrrghhhsomeone really wanted to put donut on it detule
19:40.14bardzusnyand 235mhz armv9, haha!
19:41.53zeuski thought armv7 is the latest now..
19:42.06zeuskyou mean arm9 with armv4 ?
19:42.30Cotullait can be with armv5
19:42.41zeuskyes detule, ics is too much of crap
19:42.57arrrghhharmv9 ftw
19:42.57bardzusnyarm9, yes
19:43.05bardzusnyanyway, old stuff
19:43.25bardzusnyI can only speak for leo, but gingerbread is waaaay more usable than ics
19:43.31zeuskarmv8 (AARM64) looks good, qualcomm, where is my snapdragon ? !!
19:43.33bardzusnymostly because of speed, ics lags and lags
19:46.07bardzusnyI remember laughing my ass off reading engadget reviews of dual-cores..."there is noticeable lag when moving between homescreens"
19:46.10bardzusnyetc.
19:46.52zeuskcuz they testing it on HTC's crap (sense) ?
19:48.31marc1706activate live wallpapers and have fun with your lags :P
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19:52.58detulejonpry, how do you feel about this guy https://github.com/android/kernel_common/commit/befae2f2c9137d6af5c8b38670f00441019032bb
19:55.37zeuski rate him and that code 2/10
19:56.24jonpryi have no idea what any of that does
19:58.36zeuskhe is making cgroups asynchronous by introducint work queue because on his target syncronize_rcu seems to take 100ms..
20:05.59jonpryis that a good idea?
20:10.21Cotulladon't think so
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