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| 02:53.25 | detule | jonpry, i got data |
| 02:56.04 | jonpry | all systems go? |
| 02:56.55 | detule | apparently i can't get google in the browser...though i can ssh out of the phone |
| 02:58.53 | jonpry | hrm |
| 02:59.07 | jonpry | other websites work or browser is just fubar? |
| 03:00.18 | detule | http://pastebin.com/s84yi7Ar |
| 03:05.15 | jonpry | PF_INET |
| 03:06.20 | detule | pretty sure it's because our ril doesn't pass on dns info or something |
| 03:06.38 | jonpry | nah |
| 03:07.11 | jonpry | either the default address family is something weird or its specifying something crazy |
| 03:07.15 | jonpry | ipv6 maybe? |
| 03:07.25 | jonpry | 05-21 22:58:02.170 W/GoogleSearch( 1020): Caused by: java.net.SocketException: socket failed: EAFNOSUPPORT (Address family not supported by protocol) |
| 03:13.58 | jonpry | yeah i think we need ipv6 in the kernel |
| 03:14.56 | rpierce99 | pretty sure there's an optional ipv6 module that just needs to be insmodded, we had to do it for google goggles a while back |
| 03:15.43 | detule | CONFIG_IPV6=m |
| 03:15.47 | detule | guess you are right |
| 03:17.16 | detule | rpierce99, it works |
| 03:17.26 | rpierce99 | nice |
| 03:17.45 | detule | thanks you two, i knew there was a reason i was giving jonpry nightly updates |
| 03:22.18 | jonpry | np |
| 03:27.01 | jonpry | glad i can be useful while not really doing my part |
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| 04:09.03 | walter79 | detule got wifi full working on cm7.2 with 3.3.6 kernel. |
| 04:10.03 | walter79 | some changes in you init files |
| 04:10.17 | walter79 | and found matching firmware |
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| 14:31.25 | walter79 | detule do you know why display did not wakeup on CM7 if screenoff animation is enabled? |
| 14:31.33 | walter79 | and usb plugged? |
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| 15:39.28 | arrrghhh | walter79, not sure if you read logs but ACL really had to hack at the electron beam (screen off ani) to get it to work. |
| 15:39.40 | arrrghhh | i think he shortened it from like 24 frames to 16 or maybe 10? i can't remember. |
| 15:56.51 | jonpry | and removed all the math |
| 16:04.17 | detule | evervolv needs kexec |
| 16:06.01 | jonpry | hi detule |
| 16:06.17 | detule | hey jonpry |
| 16:06.23 | jonpry | how do i do an initial kernel commit and get all that fancy git ignore stuff? |
| 16:07.36 | detule | it's all in the tar ball no?, untar it, git init; git add . ; git commit -am 'linux-3.4.y Initial commit'; git push linux-msm-rhod :htc-msm-3.4 |
| 16:07.52 | detule | er |
| 16:08.00 | detule | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:10.08 | jonpry | i dunno i used to have problems with zimages and weird stuff getting pushed and somehow you fixed it |
| 16:17.10 | detule | i think swap will be a must in ics |
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| 16:20.46 | Cotulla | sub is done |
| 16:20.46 | Cotulla | ? |
| 16:22.07 | zeusk | i rate private sub 9/10 |
| 16:27.15 | Cotulla | lol |
| 16:27.24 | Cotulla | I rate swap as 0/10 |
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| 16:44.30 | zeusk | cotulla, i rate swap 6/10 helpful for low mem systems |
| 16:45.48 | Cotulla | WHY |
| 16:46.00 | Cotulla | do u know how swapping works? |
| 16:46.11 | zeusk | because without it i cannot run gnome on my netbook |
| 16:46.33 | zeusk | lol, ram pages are swapped to hard disk/ other storage devices |
| 16:46.37 | Cotulla | swapping means that software is bad written usually |
| 16:46.45 | zeusk | it's slow but atleast gives you choice |
| 16:46.50 | Cotulla | nope |
| 16:46.53 | Cotulla | no choose |
| 16:46.56 | Cotulla | just imagine speed |
| 16:47.05 | Cotulla | when it reads from HDD/SSD |
| 16:47.09 | Cotulla | and write back old one |
| 16:47.22 | Cotulla | I see only two usage points for swapping |
| 16:47.29 | zeusk | .. I'm running ubuntu on a 128mb ram system :p |
| 16:47.39 | Cotulla | 1)make system more independent from memory leaks |
| 16:47.52 | Cotulla | cuz they can go to swap (memory which was never freed) |
| 16:48.23 | Cotulla | 2)to allow "unload" part of the application. |
| 16:48.34 | Cotulla | but this will increase activation time |
| 16:48.39 | Cotulla | and not suitable for shells |
| 16:48.42 | zeusk | and to allow low end systems to run "bloat/crapware" |
| 16:49.28 | zeusk | though linux's way of handling swap is totally crap. |
| 16:49.45 | zeusk | no matter the size of memory, they fill it with inode and fs cache |
| 16:50.00 | zeusk | unless you disable it (which most noobs don't) |
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| 16:52.09 | Vacation | anyone know anything about /sys/devices/platform/android_usb/usb_function_switch ? |
| 16:52.58 | Vacation | specifically what values can echoed in and what effect the values will have ? |
| 16:54.00 | zeusk | refer drivers/usb/gadget/ |
| 16:54.13 | zeusk | just do a grep there for usb_function_switch |
| 16:55.00 | Vacation | zeusk, sorry don't know what you mean by "refer drivers/usb/gadget/" |
| 16:55.43 | zeusk | don't you have kernel sources ? |
| 16:55.57 | zeusk | cd kernel-source/drivers/usb/gadget |
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| 16:56.22 | zeusk | grep -i -l -r 'usb_function_switch' . |
| 16:56.25 | zeusk | then just go through what it is used for in the files which grep returns |
| 16:56.58 | Vacation | nope... i suppose i'll have to find and download that |
| 16:58.03 | Vacation | actually, anyone get usb internet pass-through working on linux ? |
| 17:00.06 | zeusk | yes |
| 17:00.39 | zeusk | on cyanogenmod 7.2 on phone with gnome 3.4 on pc (archlinux), no setup was required other than the networkmanager package |
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| 18:06.46 | Cotulla | >>> and to allow low end systems to run "bloat/crapware" this is not really true . . . |
| 18:06.54 | Cotulla | swap doesn't replace RAM memory |
| 18:07.23 | jonpry | in soviet russia swap chooses you |
| 18:08.12 | Cotulla | nope |
| 18:12.33 | zmc | jonpry : Lol |
| 18:15.22 | jonpry | is hdd speed a function of capacity? |
| 18:16.13 | zmc | jonpry : Usually it depends on platter speed, and head seek time. |
| 18:16.57 | jonpry | should i expect good things from a 15k 36gb or would a 7200 rpm 2 tb be faster? |
| 18:17.24 | zmc | the 15k vs 7.2k is the platter rotation speed. |
| 18:17.30 | zmc | the 15k will be faster |
| 18:18.03 | zmc | You have to move the heads to the right track, then wait for the platter to rotate around to the right angle to start your read |
| 18:18.19 | jonpry | 36gb's are like $8 on ebay |
| 18:18.22 | zmc | if the platter spins faster, the less time you spend waiting around for the data you want. |
| 18:18.37 | jonpry | so i could get like a lot of them and then have enough space to build ics |
| 18:18.53 | zmc | if read speed is really important, get a big hardware drive controller with a lot of ram and a big cache. |
| 18:19.27 | jonpry | i have a 64mb ultra 320 |
| 18:20.15 | zmc | If you are looking for big performance on the cheap, I would get a used hardware raid card with at least 1gb of cache, get a bunch of those 15k drives and use raid 0 (striping), you get no fault tolerance but fast speeds. |
| 18:21.02 | zmc | let the controller cache up the reads and writes and you will be getting close to theroetical bus limit speeds. Especially for quick things like compilation. |
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| 18:24.56 | zmc | Most likely will be processor bound on a setup like that unless you are doing massively parrallel builds on a huge SMP server. |
| 18:27.55 | jonpry | i don't understand the point of controller cache or disk cache. linux keeps much larger caches in system memory so the chances of a hit are < 0 |
| 18:28.40 | ali1234 | it allows the disk to reorder writes to the most efficient order (which the OS can't really do) |
| 18:28.48 | ali1234 | i don't know if they actually do that but i assume they do |
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| 18:30.23 | zmc | The controller cache will optimize reads and writes across the disks and raid. It also gets the request completely out of the OS and memory. Usually by performing read-ahead and write-ahead optimization, the controller can make sure to optimize disk throuput much better than the kernel can. |
| 18:31.29 | zmc | Also dedicated controller memory doesn't have to compete with anything on the system bus, or depend on the host cpu for anything. |
| 18:32.32 | zmc | What kind of monster server do you have that you are worried about huge disk io for compilation? |
| 18:34.15 | jonpry | pretty sure my laptop is i/o bound |
| 18:34.36 | arrrghhh | ssd |
| 18:34.38 | arrrghhh | :P |
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| 18:35.09 | jonpry | too quite |
| 18:35.14 | arrrghhh | hah |
| 18:35.17 | arrrghhh | no such thing |
| 18:35.24 | arrrghhh | gah damn java. |
| 18:35.34 | rob_w | ssd is the way to go ... |
| 18:35.39 | rob_w | prices dropped recentely |
| 18:35.45 | zmc | lol, mosy likely yea. Laptops have 7.2k cheap drives and the controller is right on your system bridge. On my laptop any kind of DMA or IRQ flurry will bring the whole system to it's knees. |
| 18:36.02 | arrrghhh | yea i want to go SSD on my lappy |
| 18:36.09 | arrrghhh | just hard to give up all that space |
| 18:36.18 | arrrghhh | i gotta quit being so lazy with how i organize things :P |
| 18:36.28 | detule | coming from an ssd owner in desperate need of space -> i know how you feel |
| 18:36.31 | rob_w | thats pro .. trust me |
| 18:36.39 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 18:36.43 | zmc | SSD is nice, but if your controller is embedded like mine, you will be figting everything else on that bridge for io bandwidth. |
| 18:36.44 | jonpry | ever see those apps that play music by moving the hdd head around? |
| 18:36.51 | arrrghhh | that's the thing, i have a ton of space now. i'm spoiled :S |
| 18:37.00 | arrrghhh | jonpry, lol yes |
| 18:37.05 | arrrghhh | the best ones are for the 3.5" floppy |
| 18:37.09 | arrrghhh | those are LOUD |
| 18:37.11 | rob_w | yeah but you wont copy all those mp3 all the time right ? |
| 18:37.25 | arrrghhh | rob_w, it's mostly development crap |
| 18:37.32 | rob_w | i got me a thinkpad with extra hdd bay .. so one ssd for the real stuff and data on the real hdd |
| 18:37.36 | arrrghhh | some of it is tv shows people want me to burn... |
| 18:37.43 | arrrghhh | most of my 'junk' goes on the file server |
| 18:37.51 | arrrghhh | that would be ideal ^^ |
| 18:37.56 | zmc | depending on what you are changing, you don't have to compile the WHOLE codebase all the time. You could setup a ramdisk for what you are touching the most. |
| 18:37.56 | arrrghhh | i don't think my new lappy can handle 2 hdd's. |
| 18:38.02 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 18:38.04 | arrrghhh | i'm cba. |
| 18:38.05 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 18:38.11 | rob_w | there are bays for mny dvd drives |
| 18:38.23 | arrrghhh | heh, that's one thing i could do without. |
| 18:38.33 | rob_w | just a question if you can hotswap it .. thinkpads can |
| 18:38.33 | jonpry | i need a hard drive based ghetto blaster |
| 18:38.43 | rob_w | lol |
| 18:39.08 | detule | zeam ftw |
| 18:42.08 | jonpry | faster? |
| 18:43.12 | detule | yeah, smallest launcher i can find, though it's missing all these fancy ics features like resizable widgets and whatnot |
| 18:43.56 | jonpry | is that what is in the vid? |
| 18:44.23 | detule | no that's some ics launcher...about x10 the download size of zeam |
| 18:45.09 | jonpry | gave up on launcher2? |
| 18:45.11 | rob_w | i just got ics up on my dm3730 .. still need to figure out how to get all those app people talk about |
| 18:45.28 | rob_w | and get rid of that blackish theme |
| 18:45.38 | jonpry | beagleboard? |
| 18:45.46 | rob_w | not |
| 18:45.55 | rob_w | igep modules |
| 18:46.02 | rob_w | but comparable ... |
| 18:46.39 | rob_w | using the rowboat git, but still very breakable at pm and suspend |
| 18:47.17 | jonpry | yeah that kernel is no good with pm |
| 18:47.59 | rob_w | though i wouldnt care as i am not using it as mobile |
| 18:48.32 | fakker | ok, http://twitpic.com/9o3bx2/full |
| 18:48.36 | fakker | tell me what is wrong with that |
| 18:49.11 | arrrghhh | you're posting twit things in #htc-linux? |
| 18:49.18 | arrrghhh | the search put you in rotterdam? |
| 18:49.19 | zmc | wtf dude |
| 18:49.19 | fakker | no |
| 18:49.20 | arrrghhh | you're british? |
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| 18:49.38 | arrrghhh | oh the review. |
| 18:49.40 | arrrghhh | jeebus. |
| 18:49.45 | fakker | that's why |
| 18:49.47 | fakker | you get me? |
| 18:49.51 | fakker | WTF |
| 18:49.55 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 18:51.17 | zmc | You gotta be kidding me. http://maxsenden.info/Toiletgirls.html |
| 18:51.39 | fakker | you gotta me kidding me, you clicked on the link?! |
| 18:51.52 | zmc | this person has way too much time on their hands |
| 18:52.30 | fakker | haha |
| 18:52.43 | fakker | still can't get over you going on their website |
| 18:52.45 | zmc | fakker : I've had worse. As far as internet douchebags go, I give this guy a solid "pathetic"/ |
| 18:53.11 | zmc | Go get some goat.cx, that'll sober you up. lol |
| 18:53.16 | fakker | clicks |
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| 18:53.38 | fakker | wow, he can really draw |
| 18:53.52 | zmc | Yea, too bad he's a weirdo |
| 18:54.32 | fakker | so yeah - carry on |
| 18:54.35 | fakker | i only came on irc to post that wtf |
| 18:56.01 | Cotulla | lol fakker |
| 18:56.03 | Cotulla | how are u? |
| 18:56.17 | zeusk | allo fakker |
| 18:57.03 | fakker | privet |
| 18:57.04 | fakker | kidda |
| 18:57.09 | Cotulla | :D |
| 18:57.18 | zeusk | cotulla, yes it doesn't replace ram but atleast allows background program |
| 18:57.24 | zeusk | to be offloaded to swap |
| 18:57.43 | zeusk | i still dunno what is privet :( |
| 18:57.53 | Cotulla | yes but it's still slow |
| 18:57.59 | Cotulla | it's not really very suitable |
| 18:58.16 | Cotulla | privet is black magic |
| 18:58.21 | zeusk | hmm, true |
| 18:58.59 | zeusk | fakker, sade naal punjabi sikkh reiya noon (not sure if that is correct) |
| 18:59.25 | Cotulla | nope. |
| 18:59.59 | fakker | zeusk, no clue |
| 19:00.07 | fakker | telling me to learn punjabi properly? |
| 19:00.42 | zeusk | nvm, I don't really understand what i just said.. |
| 19:00.52 | Cotulla | yes u are |
| 19:01.03 | zeusk | zombie_mode_enter()+ |
| 19:01.16 | Cotulla | lol |
| 19:01.17 | Cotulla | go sleep |
| 19:01.49 | zeusk | or, i can just waste some 15 minutes trolling while getting trolled |
| 19:02.40 | jonpry | swap makes debian chroot on rhodium possible |
| 19:02.44 | jonpry | and kernel compile |
| 19:03.00 | Cotulla | lol |
| 19:03.05 | Cotulla | it's only |
| 19:03.06 | Cotulla | cuz GCC sucks |
| 19:03.28 | Cotulla | I am not able to run "make -j2" |
| 19:03.33 | Cotulla | with 3.5 Gb RAM |
| 19:03.35 | Cotulla | :) |
| 19:03.48 | Cotulla | on CPP source . . . |
| 19:04.04 | zeusk | nvm, i'll just go sleep anyway, good night people |
| 19:04.05 | zeusk | dafuq am i reading, i use make -j5 on linux kernel |
| 19:04.05 | zeusk | oh, cpp... |
| 19:04.18 | Cotulla | CPP yes |
| 19:04.51 | zeusk | never tried compiling cpp with gcc, visual studio is what i use when not working on linux/lk |
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| 20:23.19 | walter79 | arrghhh thank for information and i read logs. |
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