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| 03:07.21 | walter79 | jonpry 3.3.4 kernel works well on ICS nand. Screen works. touch work |
| 03:07.45 | walter79 | calibration works 50% |
| 03:08.21 | raymonddull | woah woah woah wait a minute... ics on RHOD? |
| 03:08.32 | walter79 | Yes |
| 03:08.38 | raymonddull | lol wow this should be fun to try |
| 03:09.14 | walter79 | uploading cm9 port. ASOP is online |
| 03:09.31 | walter79 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25685106 |
| 03:09.35 | raymonddull | my phone wont be here till monday, so no rush lol |
| 03:10.04 | ahigerd | From what I hear ICS needs more RAM than we have to offer if you want to do more than make phone calls *sweatdrop* |
| 03:10.46 | ahigerd | But it might be fun to try out if you've got a SD build |
| 03:10.53 | walter79 | it runs. gsm is working. can make call and write sms. sounds did not wokr |
| 03:10.56 | walter79 | work |
| 03:11.19 | walter79 | no idea how to make a sd build. |
| 03:12.29 | walter79 | i can make a nandroid backup. |
| 03:14.07 | walter79 | We need a new LK bootloader with 200 Mb /system |
| 03:14.25 | walter79 | Acl LK has 180 Mb |
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| 03:26.08 | walter79 | Brickpsp sent me LK with 200 Mb /system i will test if it work i will share it |
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| 03:41.30 | walter79 | LK did not work |
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| 16:38.46 | detule | hey jonpry |
| 16:38.57 | jonpry | hi detule |
| 16:39.15 | jonpry | get it to work right? |
| 16:39.23 | detule | right is too strong of a word |
| 16:39.41 | detule | finally flashed omgb last night (props to acl for making it painless) |
| 16:40.02 | jonpry | bold |
| 16:40.17 | detule | it doesn't like power_on_panel2 in msm_fb |
| 16:40.36 | jonpry | oh the hammering it until it works thing? |
| 16:40.37 | detule | and need to manually cat the calibration |
| 16:40.40 | detule | yeah |
| 16:41.27 | detule | acl also has some weird electron beam animation on screen on/off and i am not sure how he's drawing it...no idea if that's exacerbating issues... |
| 16:41.37 | detule | but with power_on_panel and our own init sequence it powers on and off fine |
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| 16:42.48 | jonpry | i think ebeam is done in surfaceflinger |
| 16:44.03 | detule | also some general weirdness...like this thing needing to manually cat the calibration...i think some strange thing is happening with permissions....like the permissions in ueventd.rhodium.rc (containing the acoustic device) don't get processed |
| 16:44.30 | detule | and the ril seems unable to spawn pppd though i can start it manually |
| 16:45.15 | detule | this is ass backwards, no idea if i am debugging the kernel or userland....need to have a gbx nand image but i don't want to embark on disentangling rootfs from the ramdisk |
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| 16:47.17 | detule | i am getting very nostalgic about gbx very fast |
| 16:47.32 | jonpry | he did something strange with pppd in userland |
| 16:47.56 | jonpry | probably just leave it to the chefs if we can nix the panel issues |
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| 16:48.25 | jonpry | they can either cook up a gbx for nand or make new hal's |
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| 16:49.24 | rpierce99 | afaik all of the nand builds do things the google way, so they'd have to change all of them, where as if the kernel is fixed they will all "Just work" |
| 16:49.45 | rpierce99 | but doing that might break xdandroid |
| 16:52.00 | detule | on my 0x14 panel, it blanks and unblanks fine, though the i2c interface to the panel seems inoperational (can't adjust the backlight), even though i'm able apparently to control the color led still |
| 16:52.25 | jonpry | are you using something based on that contraption i had done? |
| 16:53.10 | detule | which one? this is completely haret init/deinit sequence....i tried swapping in just acl's init/deinit and then it doesn't unblank at all |
| 16:53.43 | jonpry | the latest thing on pastebin. which power on removed from acl's sequences and then i have the wizard_init[] |
| 16:53.52 | jonpry | er with |
| 16:55.20 | jonpry | didn't work right but i have some ideas |
| 16:56.38 | detule | i need to figure out how to change the permissions on the acoustic device in time....so i can at least have the phone operational |
| 16:57.12 | detule | or rather i guess i can restart the media system - you remember what was the killall for that |
| 16:57.29 | jonpry | on cm7 there is a command in the init language that lets you run shell scripts |
| 16:57.41 | jonpry | and i'm guessing omgb uses cm7 init |
| 16:58.12 | detule | it does, and i can change it in that way but i think it's too late |
| 16:59.45 | jonpry | the only thing earlier is to do it like xdandroid and make init a script |
| 17:00.47 | detule | to make things weirder i can remount / rw and edit init.rhodium.rc |
| 17:00.55 | detule | however my edits don't survive reboot |
| 17:11.15 | detule | alright i was doing something stupid with acoustic, the shell script approach works |
| 17:11.54 | toastcfh | sup |
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| 17:18.03 | zeusk | monkeys running codeaurora's lk git ? www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/la/?p=kernel/lk.git;a=summary |
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| 17:24.18 | zeusk | jonpry, i got back to 3.3 for leo but seems to die near __mmu_init |
| 17:24.35 | zeusk | could it be because of bad page tables ? |
| 17:25.33 | jonpry | we had trouble because some iomem regions were overlapped/duplicated and the system will bug_on() |
| 17:25.58 | jonpry | older kernels ignore it |
| 17:26.31 | zeusk | o.o but create_page_tables has nothing related to iomem regions |
| 17:26.48 | zeusk | it just maps the first mb, the kernel image |
| 17:27.18 | jonpry | you can't really see whats going between mmu_init and the end of iomem setup |
| 17:27.58 | jonpry | no debug output in the interim. no ramconsole. no memory accessible |
| 17:28.05 | zeusk | i tried putting code to write stuff at ramconsole, but nothing comes up after mmu_init, even though i have ramconsole entry in create_page_tables |
| 17:28.11 | zeusk | :o |
| 17:28.29 | jonpry | that will crash the kernel |
| 17:28.38 | zeusk | data abort ? but why ? |
| 17:29.01 | jonpry | after mmu_init there are very few valid memory regions |
| 17:29.17 | jonpry | all phys addresses are gone. and it only sets up 3 or 4 mappins |
| 17:29.25 | jonpry | *mappings |
| 17:30.11 | jonpry | you have a diff for the changes? |
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| 17:31.19 | jonpry | i guess you tried to use some of the ramconsole identity mapper? |
| 17:32.03 | jonpry | i need to go have some moar coffee. bbl |
| 17:32.10 | toastcfh | lol |
| 17:32.12 | ahigerd | ... more coffee. Sounds like a good idea to me. |
| 17:32.14 | toastcfh | +1 |
| 17:32.15 | ahigerd | gets some joe |
| 18:04.02 | CptAJ | tragedy struck last night |
| 18:04.08 | jonpry | zeusk, diff? |
| 18:04.14 | CptAJ | the send key on my whitestone is broken =( |
| 18:04.27 | CptAJ | now I have 2 broken keys. end and send |
| 18:04.36 | ahigerd | Ouch. |
| 18:04.38 | jonpry | ouch |
| 18:04.56 | CptAJ | hey, I'm an optimist. This is just motivation to get the microp keys working faster! |
| 18:05.23 | CptAJ | really bad buttons on this phone though. JC has the same problem |
| 18:05.33 | CptAJ | shame on HTC |
| 18:07.30 | jonpry | microp should be easy |
| 18:07.41 | jonpry | just need the keymap really |
| 18:35.33 | detule | must've somehow messsed up init |
| 19:05.01 | CptAJ | I'll grapple with it tonight |
| 19:05.06 | CptAJ | right now is pool time, baby |
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| 20:16.20 | walter79 | How can i fix wrong touchscreen. left is right and up is down. |
| 20:16.37 | walter79 | it is like a mirror |
| 20:24.29 | GNUtoo-desktop | what's the distro? |
| 20:24.32 | jonpry | swap some of the values in the calibration string? |
| 20:25.32 | GNUtoo-desktop | hi, is there any interesting stuff in the modem debug in the htc dream or nexus one? |
| 20:27.16 | GNUtoo-desktop | 2) is it possible to trigger the modem debug in the htc dream without the serial cable? |
| 20:29.44 | walter79 | distro ICS, jonpry do you which strings? |
| 20:30.09 | GNUtoo-desktop | ok |
| 20:30.44 | walter79 | and how can i change this strings? |
| 20:30.48 | jonpry | screams |
| 20:38.36 | walter79 | ah found it. |
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| 20:44.27 | detule | lol |
| 20:52.31 | walter79 | sysinit.sh was missing |
| 20:53.28 | detule | you need to get that from the omgb build |
| 20:53.34 | detule | that's something acl wrote |
| 20:53.53 | detule | it should fix your calibration issues |
| 20:55.05 | walter79 | i hope it work |
| 20:55.43 | walter79 | I use CM9 nand and it is realy good on 528 Mhz |
| 20:56.16 | walter79 | Is it possible to overclock next 3.3.4 kernel by default? 604 Mhz? |
| 20:57.56 | detule | it is possible....but that's moving away from what we are trying to do - one kernel for both haret and nand |
| 20:58.18 | walter79 | ok no problem. 528 is ok |
| 20:58.35 | detule | ideally we just need to add a mkbootimg part to the autobuild script and have all updates be delivered for both nand and haret simultaneously |
| 20:58.52 | walter79 | sounds good |
| 20:59.08 | detule | we are far from that though... |
| 20:59.26 | walter79 | do you know why 3.3.4. kernel works well for ICS and not for GB |
| 20:59.35 | detule | it works well for gb |
| 20:59.46 | walter79 | NAND |
| 20:59.50 | walter79 | sorry |
| 21:00.07 | detule | works well for nand gb |
| 21:00.18 | walter79 | new kernel? |
| 21:00.35 | walter79 | my latest did not work. |
| 21:01.12 | walter79 | same link like all kernel? |
| 21:01.17 | walter79 | for download? |
| 21:02.08 | detule | it's not uploaded yet...and i am about to head out to dinner.... |
| 21:02.25 | jonpry | you fixed it? |
| 21:02.28 | walter79 | ok. i will wait. big thanks for your work |
| 21:02.32 | detule | fixed what? |
| 21:02.45 | jonpry | dunno panel? what are you pushing? |
| 21:03.21 | detule | just that one function call....don't really want to push that since i know it helps on haret |
| 21:03.54 | jonpry | so acl's inits work as long as thats gone? |
| 21:03.56 | detule | and other than init being somehow messed up and now spawning pppd everything else is fine |
| 21:04.16 | detule | i can manually spawn pppd if i time it correctly with the ril atd 777 call...but data dies ofcourse as soon as my adb shell sessions terminates |
| 21:05.09 | jonpry | i can't believe you flashed it |
| 21:05.46 | detule | i can't believe we got it as far as we did with only bootX.img with X=single digit, working remotely on other peoples phones |
| 21:06.29 | jonpry | pretty much worked oob |
| 21:06.53 | detule | need gbx0 on this thing |
| 21:07.21 | detule | these stock inits are like a labyrinth...true much shorter than the gbx labyrinth but damnit i know my way around that one |
| 21:07.43 | jonpry | in theory all it needs is a change to initrd |
| 21:07.50 | jonpry | and tools to get it loaded |
| 21:08.18 | detule | that's doable pretty easy |
| 21:08.29 | jonpry | nilfs? |
| 21:08.34 | detule | dinner time ttyl |
| 21:08.39 | jonpry | k |
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| 21:22.42 | walter79 | script did not work for calibtation |
| 21:22.44 | walter79 | 23:01:14.826 Info InputReader 106 Touch device 'tssc-manager' could not query the properties of its associated display 0. The device will be inoperable until the display size becomes available. |
| 21:22.44 | walter79 | 23:01:14.826 Info InputReader 106 Device added: id=3, name='tssc-manager', sources=0x01002513 |
| 21:28.03 | walter79 | jonpry maybe ICS touchscreen needs a kernel patch: https://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/alex-linux-xperia/commit/9d705ef19654d7597d04eab09966fd0a9d855e80/diffs/844e6f8bed194d6947d966233f411e8997484091 |
| 21:29.14 | walter79 | https://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/alex-linux-xperia |
| 21:29.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | walter79: that didn't really help |
| 21:29.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | icy ass needs some userland files |
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| 21:32.18 | JC__ | Hi there... Does anyone know if CptAJ uploaded the whitestone's last patch??? |
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| 21:32.31 | JC__ | I wanna give a try in accelerometer from there |
| 21:53.07 | walter79 | jonpry: i started sysinit.sh script from terminal. it works but if screen rotate calibration will lost |
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