00:00.25 | detule | oh no microp |
00:03.50 | jonpry | presumably it is similar to rhod microp anyways |
00:04.21 | detule | yeah he would be better off trying to write a whitestone board file or two in 3.x than tracing through the microps in .27 |
00:04.37 | detule | figure out the new toolchain? |
00:05.27 | jonpry | haven't tried but i think those changes to msm_tssc.h will help |
00:07.02 | jonpry | probably have to disassemble the object files to really figure it out |
00:08.10 | jonpry | maybe we can upgrade tssc manager to a version that doesn't use bitfield structs |
00:09.30 | detule | i seem to remember something recently on lkml about bitfields and gcc |
00:10.13 | jonpry | it generates psycho code |
00:10.28 | detule | i don't even know what the lineage of our tssc_manager is |
00:10.31 | jonpry | fortunately we can remove 90% of them without any real work |
00:10.41 | jonpry | its an htc contraption |
00:10.55 | detule | oh so if i poke in a kernel of theirs i might find one |
00:11.24 | jonpry | it has to be from a resistive touch device otherwise they don't use the msm controller |
00:12.48 | jonpry | rewriting it to not use bitfields at all is probably not beyond our technical capabilities |
00:13.20 | rpierce99 | 22h later I'm at 60% |
00:13.30 | detule | wifi on or off? :) |
00:13.33 | rpierce99 | on |
00:13.46 | rpierce99 | and my number ported so it's rang 3 or 4 times |
00:14.02 | detule | i suspect you'll find similar numbers with wifi off whenever you run that experiment |
00:14.04 | detule | though i could be wrong |
00:14.42 | rpierce99 | losing 40% in 22h is enough testing i can turn wifi on, or charge again and then turn wifi on |
00:14.51 | rpierce99 | ^if |
00:15.21 | detule | probably best to recharge anew before starting a new test -> going back to winmo to read the battery? |
00:15.33 | rpierce99 | no this is just in android |
00:15.40 | detule | my android battery indicator is at 73% after 12 hrs |
00:15.48 | detule | with mobile data and what not |
00:16.05 | rpierce99 | are you running with this pm too? |
00:16.38 | detule | same pm, other changes though that prevent idle power collapse...and no wifi so mine is power collapsing in suspend |
00:16.47 | detule | your kernel though powercollapses in idle |
00:17.07 | detule | so technically it could be that even though wifi is on you are still powercollapsing |
00:17.18 | rpierce99 | so to get better battery life we prevent sleeping? seems backwards |
00:17.34 | detule | no better battery life turn off mobile data |
00:17.59 | detule | just booted in winmo to check my battery -> 60% (this is what i mean by lately android giving me accurate readings) |
00:18.21 | detule | not bad 40% after 12-13hrs with mobile data |
00:18.39 | detule | though i don't really trust either indicator with my after market battery |
00:25.01 | detule | jonpry, thouse samples_avg the only bitfields it uses? |
00:25.36 | jonpry | control registers |
00:28.51 | jonpry | looking at the disassembly i don't see anything strange |
00:29.05 | jonpry | but maybe that is because i built it with the old toolchain |
00:36.13 | detule | i don't understand what's the point of assigning a data type to a bitfield |
00:36.25 | detule | like unsigned long foo :16 |
00:36.30 | detule | why the long? |
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00:36.51 | jonpry | i'm not sure |
00:37.14 | jonpry | i think it is just for dealing with strong type checking options |
00:38.11 | jonpry | http://pastebin.com/M02K67bi |
00:38.44 | jonpry | diff of the disassemblies |
00:39.17 | rpierce99 | winmo also says 60% |
00:39.58 | jonpry | nothing is actually different except for some addresses and the handling of 16 bit bitfields |
00:40.34 | jonpry | so i guess ldrh is not equiv to ldr lsr |
00:41.56 | detule | that's quite a diff |
00:43.59 | detule | 30mins to download the new toolchain |
00:44.22 | jonpry | i think ldrh and ldr lsl are the same |
00:44.37 | jonpry | what is stranger is the handling of the lower halfs |
00:44.52 | jonpry | as ldr and ldrh are definitely not equiv |
00:47.23 | jonpry | which would explain why x works and y doesn't |
00:49.16 | detule | x didn't quite work either |
00:49.24 | detule | from what i remember |
00:49.27 | detule | it was pretty erratic |
00:50.19 | jonpry | well i blame it on this ldr/ldrh thing |
00:50.30 | jonpry | which is actually a gcc bug |
00:50.32 | detule | https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/2/1/220 |
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00:52.11 | ahigerd | TECHNICALLY that's not a bug? |
00:52.23 | ahigerd | Not that it much helps |
00:56.06 | jonpry | changing the bit field struct to shorts causes the return of ldrh |
00:56.38 | detule | with the new toolchain/ |
00:58.46 | jonpry | yes |
00:58.55 | jonpry | recommended patch: http://pastebin.com/bnYb8LZ5 |
01:01.06 | jonpry | we should probably tell the man about this one |
01:01.14 | detule | you boot this? |
01:01.21 | jonpry | no |
01:01.38 | detule | the man sounds busy |
01:02.13 | jonpry | but this is broke ass |
01:05.45 | jonpry | though i imagine they will say something like bitfields are not part of the c specification and thus their behavior is always undefined |
01:06.42 | detule | before telling you it's our own fault for trying to use proprietary drivers on unsupported hardware |
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01:13.23 | detule | jonpry, you da man |
01:13.39 | jonpry | it works? |
01:13.44 | detule | sure does |
01:14.07 | jonpry | not sure what we are going to do with a new compiler |
01:14.18 | jonpry | progress is progress i guess :p |
01:14.32 | detule | isn't there something here about less overhead due to the alignment trap or what not |
01:14.41 | detule | not sure if we need to disable some config option or something |
01:15.11 | jonpry | i think the alignment trap really is broken on armv6 |
01:15.22 | jonpry | but we don't have anything that needs it that i know of |
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01:23.16 | detule | er i guess this was 2011.03 not quite the latest toolchain |
01:24.02 | jonpry | not sure how old mine is either. its possible the bug was fixed |
01:24.41 | jonpry | or not. i guess captaj has something pretty new |
01:26.30 | detule | i'll try it later with the latest, trying with alignment trap disabled now expecting this thing to take off |
01:27.13 | jonpry | hyperspace jump? |
01:28.25 | detule | not that i can tell gotta go thanks for squashing this |
01:39.18 | ahigerd | Remind me why stock gcc-arm can't build the kernel? You told me before but I forgot |
01:41.20 | jonpry | i think it can now |
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01:45.52 | ahigerd | Ah, nice. detule had mentioned something about alignment problems which is what reminded me |
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01:50.38 | jonpry | you were gone when i fixed it |
01:51.37 | ahigerd | Oh, heh, nice |
01:52.11 | ahigerd | Maybe I should try it, since I have stock 4.5.0 gcc arm-elf installed |
01:53.06 | ahigerd | (I know it's a little out of date; I haven't needed to update it since this is perfectly fine for building binaries for my job) |
01:56.10 | jonpry | give it a whirl |
01:56.46 | ahigerd | What's the best repo to clone? |
01:57.52 | jonpry | linux-msm-rhod |
01:57.56 | ahigerd | Link? |
01:58.41 | jonpry | https://gitorious.org/linux-msm-rhod |
01:59.12 | ahigerd | bows |
01:59.41 | ahigerd | make msmconfig, I believe I heard? |
02:00.06 | jonpry | i just copy arch/arm/configs/msm_defconfig .config |
02:00.15 | ahigerd | Ah, msm_defconfig, okay |
02:00.18 | ahigerd | Thanks |
02:00.27 | jonpry | then its make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=/path/to/gcc zImage |
02:01.07 | ahigerd | Yeah, I remember that part from building a kernel for my work device |
02:02.53 | ahigerd | headscratches at gitorious |
02:03.00 | ahigerd | That can't be right... gotta be a mistake. GPL3? |
02:03.09 | ahigerd | I thought the Linux kernel was GPL2 with no upgrade clause |
02:03.26 | jonpry | yeah i dunno [acl] setup the project |
02:04.19 | ahigerd | ...bah *pokes gitorious with stick* clone failed |
02:04.21 | ahigerd | retries |
02:05.37 | ahigerd | Huh. |
02:05.39 | ahigerd | I can't clone. |
02:06.26 | jonpry | git://gitorious.org/linux-msm-rhod/linux-msm-rhod.git ? |
02:06.42 | ahigerd | Yup |
02:07.02 | ahigerd | Trying https just to see if it makes a difference, but I'm getting early EOFs |
02:08.44 | jonpry | sometimes its just broke |
02:10.42 | ahigerd | Good job gitorious. >.> |
02:10.59 | ahigerd | Well. https hasn't DIED yet, so... that's a good sign I guess? |
02:11.28 | ahigerd | Better than the 3.5 hours it took to push my work project to Codesion last week x.x |
02:12.00 | jonpry | it will take a long time to clone that repo. close to 1gb |
02:12.28 | ahigerd | Yeah, the .git of that project that took 3.5 hours was only 343MB |
02:12.42 | ahigerd | Why is it that free project hosts have better performance than paid ones? |
02:13.08 | ahigerd | is trying to talk the company into switching to Atlassian |
02:14.23 | rpierce99 | we use the atlassian suite at work |
02:14.38 | ahigerd | I use Bitbucket for all of my personal projects |
02:15.01 | ahigerd | So I'm going to hope that Atlassian:Bitbucket !== CollabNet::SourceForge |
02:15.06 | ahigerd | er |
02:15.10 | ahigerd | I totally botched the punctuation there |
02:15.11 | ahigerd | But you get it |
02:15.16 | ahigerd | (CollabNet is AWFUL.) |
02:16.40 | rpierce99 | I dunno, call me a microsoft fanboy but I'll take VS2010 + TFS over pretty much anything |
02:17.06 | ahigerd | TFS? |
02:17.13 | rpierce99 | team foundation server |
02:17.28 | ahigerd | I'll give VS2010 props for being a solid IDE, but that doesn't make up for the problems inherent with the REST of developing on Windows. |
02:17.54 | rpierce99 | true, i've only developed C# in that environment |
02:18.08 | ahigerd | Basically all of my work is C++ |
02:18.36 | ahigerd | You don't do DSP in C#. ;) |
02:19.07 | ahigerd | You also try to avoid cross-platform development in C# >.> |
02:19.51 | rpierce99 | yeah my work is primarily a windows shop, although much of the dotcom team is rolling macs these days, but all of the proprietary apps are either web apps or windows |
02:20.48 | ahigerd | AFAICT our customers are pretty evenly split between Windows and Mac |
02:21.03 | ahigerd | But then again I'm in the music business |
02:21.47 | rpierce99 | yeah that does tend to sku things, I'm surprised half of them still run windows |
02:22.02 | ahigerd | Don't be |
02:22.12 | rpierce99 | s/sku/skew/ |
02:22.24 | ahigerd | Heh, nice bot |
02:22.32 | rpierce99 | oh you haven't met apt? |
02:22.34 | ahigerd | Nope |
02:22.41 | rpierce99 | apt where is ramconsole |
02:22.41 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, ramconsole is pwf dm 0x8e0000 0x20000 |
02:22.46 | ahigerd | Nice. |
02:22.59 | rpierce99 | apt kill ahigerd |
02:22.59 | apt | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged anti-graviton gun at ahigerd |
02:23.04 | ahigerd | ;_; |
02:23.21 | ahigerd | apt, who are you? |
02:23.22 | apt | ahigerd: I think you lost me on that one |
02:23.26 | ahigerd | Heh |
02:23.31 | ahigerd | Last bot I played with could answer that one |
02:23.46 | ahigerd | error: Unable to get pack index https://git.gitorious.org/linux-msm-rhod/linux-msm-rhod.git/objects/pack/pack-98d762584b5475dbd94986aec5f4285d81ed9182.idx |
02:23.51 | ahigerd | Hmm, nope, just going to ahve to try this again tomorrow |
02:24.05 | jonpry | we also have unilinky |
02:24.22 | jonpry | [[foo]] |
02:24.23 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=foo |
02:25.33 | ahigerd | Convenient. Over in #qt we just have !rtfm and some factoids |
02:26.01 | ahigerd | (Though !rtfm is nice) |
02:26.36 | rpierce99 | do you really need a bot for that? lol |
02:27.38 | ahigerd | It's just like unilinky there |
02:27.48 | ahigerd | !rtfm QLabel::setCaption |
02:27.49 | ahigerd | or osmething |
02:28.02 | ahigerd | And it makes a link, including an anchor to the desired method |
02:28.08 | rpierce99 | got it |
02:28.30 | ahigerd | And for people who only look at their highlights, !tell rpierce99 [rtfm QFoo] |
02:28.32 | rpierce99 | we should have one that parses the text for obvious stupid questions and sends them to http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
02:28.36 | ahigerd | XD Yes. |
02:29.32 | ahigerd | Or "Can anyone ____?" -> "Yes." |
02:29.53 | rpierce99 | Can you _____? -> If I wanted to, yes. For you, no. |
02:30.01 | ahigerd | Even better. |
02:30.33 | rpierce99 | apt can you tell me how to install linux on my htc? |
02:30.52 | ahigerd | Okay guys, night |
02:31.03 | rpierce99 | night |
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12:52.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk: yes |
12:55.30 | zeusk | how is this ? http://pastebin.com/MNL5T7A7 |
12:55.46 | zeusk | i am using it on leo to have multiple fonts at the same time and can switch between them during runtime |
12:56.04 | zeusk | good for writing menu system, which i am doing now |
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12:58.16 | zeusk | it worked :D |
13:01.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk: the code looks ok, but i don't think it is necessary. 8x8 font is readable on x1, and of course on larger displays. i don't know why you need to switch fonts at runtime. as for menu, i had it once (you may look up older revisions) but it's proven useless. fastboot is enough. and btw, look at CA, they have a newer version of lk with some 2d graphics code and rewritten fbcon |
13:01.36 | zeusk | lol, they just copied that from newos.org/lk.git |
13:02.08 | zeusk | i thought of using that, but it seems too complex and unecessary |
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13:10.15 | zeusk | btw i did that because 8x8 was barely readable on leo and i can't use 8x16 everywhere in the menu, otherwise it would be very small. |
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14:47.34 | zeusk | LOL, Alex, i found why switching font during runtime won |
14:47.54 | zeusk | won't be good, seems font_width and font_height is not constant |
14:48.03 | zeusk | so it's a problem. |
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17:50.03 | zeusk | what will happen if i call clock_enable with invalid id (-1) through proc_comm ? |
17:50.26 | zeusk | will baseband crash or just put some kind of error in the APP_CMD (result) |
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18:33.42 | ahigerd | Um. *stares at compiler* How the heck did I land an OABI ARM compiler O.o |
18:33.50 | ahigerd | XD |
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18:34.24 | ahigerd | Oh. I didn't. Never mind. |
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18:45.05 | ahigerd | No, I did. |
18:45.47 | zeusk | ... |
18:46.21 | ahigerd | I thought I was missing a cflag |
18:46.36 | ahigerd | But when I set it, it didn't change anything |
18:46.41 | ahigerd | So I need to get myself a new compiler. XD |
18:53.35 | zeusk | I don't usually download toolchains, but when i do i make sure they're outdated ones ;) |
18:53.58 | helicopter88 | Codesourcery 2010/9 FTW |
18:55.23 | ahigerd | The toolchain I have was one I had installed for something else |
18:55.26 | ahigerd | I was just hoping it'd work :P |
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20:18.29 | jonpry | we can compile with new toolchains now. my phone is currently running such a contraption |
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22:07.44 | detule | jonpry, up to 3.3.1 |
22:07.49 | detule | had to undo some damage to drivers/usb |
22:32.31 | jonpry | i've been running close to 20 hours with data on |
22:32.43 | jonpry | says 50% |
22:33.54 | rpierce99 | my wifi off test is about 8.5 hrs in and android says 84% |
22:34.23 | detule | jonpry, what kernel? |
22:36.21 | jonpry | good question |
22:36.21 | arrrghhh | lol |
22:36.39 | jonpry | 3.2 with your timer.c and idle pc patches. newer toolchain |
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