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| 02:00.28 | detule | jonpry, you push that out? |
| 02:02.21 | jonpry | my tree isn't synced |
| 02:02.42 | jonpry | but i think the patch works |
| 02:07.01 | detule | alright we should get it out there for the three gsm users that are still using rhods |
| 02:07.44 | jonpry | lol |
| 02:07.50 | jonpry | pushed |
| 02:08.06 | jonpry | i read some of the reports. same stuff i was getting |
| 02:09.59 | detule | can't believe wistilt2 never hit these |
| 02:11.36 | jonpry | has he been around at all? |
| 02:12.20 | detule | ~seen WisTilt2 |
| 02:12.23 | apt | wistilt2 <~wisgreg@wireless251.wirelesstcp.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 52d 7h 33m 39s ago, saying: 'hey detule. yeah probably a good idea. they are moving fast with upping kernel versions. just checking in to see whats going. busy with a big project so going to be pretty scarce another couple months. if you need 3.3 on the autobuild just email me and ill make it so.'. |
| 02:12.41 | detule | that worked better than I thought it would |
| 02:13.02 | jonpry | even got an eta |
| 02:14.34 | detule | running out of things to do though |
| 02:14.42 | detule | pretty much _everything_ works |
| 02:16.17 | jonpry | except ics |
| 02:16.26 | detule | so next thing for you mkfs.ext4 -b 32KB ? |
| 02:16.45 | jonpry | have you tried that? |
| 02:17.05 | detule | i completely forgot about it until i saw you online the other day i remember you talking abou tit |
| 02:17.54 | jonpry | yeah i used to think that would be awesome |
| 02:18.09 | jonpry | not so sure anymore |
| 02:18.56 | jonpry | pretty sure i need a new phone |
| 02:19.23 | detule | i wouldn't know what to do with all this free time |
| 02:20.34 | jonpry | don't new phones need moar hacking? |
| 02:20.54 | detule | cyanogen's got that covered |
| 02:21.19 | jonpry | not all cm ports are created equal |
| 02:22.44 | jonpry | have to get a windows phone i guess |
| 02:22.54 | detule | they are stuck in single processor world |
| 02:23.18 | jonpry | yeah need dual core w/ keyboard |
| 02:23.29 | detule | hell dual core will be last year in a few months |
| 02:23.50 | jonpry | quads? |
| 02:24.28 | jonpry | i'd imagine those will be more or less a gimmick. there is not enough memory bandwidth as is |
| 02:28.17 | detule | but but butÂ….you can preorder it for 750$ |
| 02:28.25 | detule | i can buy a used card for that much money |
| 02:35.19 | jonpry | 750?! |
| 02:35.32 | jonpry | thats like an ipad |
| 02:36.57 | detule | s/used card/used car/ |
| 02:37.10 | jonpry | i once bought a porsche for 300 |
| 02:37.18 | jonpry | and drove it for like 5 years |
| 02:37.41 | detule | damnÂ….porsche |
| 02:38.36 | jonpry | didn't have 4 engines though |
| 02:38.43 | detule | lol |
| 02:39.59 | jonpry | how's arrrghhh and the iphone? |
| 02:40.12 | jonpry | did he join iphone-developers.org? |
| 02:40.47 | detule | the s4 looks nice http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=s9hQD6ddhDw#! |
| 02:43.07 | jonpry | i think not all s4's are quad |
| 02:43.30 | jonpry | they all haz hexagon dsp though |
| 02:45.28 | detule | it has its own mmu? |
| 02:45.50 | jonpry | dunno. but that is pretty common |
| 02:46.16 | jonpry | omap c64x has an mmu. along with the sgx so you don't need pmem anymore |
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| 20:52.12 | apt | zeusk: i haven't seen 'lordallutuc' |
| 20:53.01 | zeusk | apt seen LordAllutoc |
| 20:53.02 | apt | lordallutoc <~myfakemai@nat100-255-205-109.tvoe.tv> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 2d 1h 5m 51s ago, saying: 'nope ur toilet not compatible'. |
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| 21:22.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | lol this is stupid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9gDkAWkVEw |
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| 21:28.50 | Willd | It pains me to see HD2s running WM6.5.. |
| 21:34.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | it pains me to see my sgs2 running android |
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| 22:27.20 | jonpry | sgs2? |
| 22:28.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | didn't i tell you? |
| 22:29.57 | jonpry | its never too late to go back |
| 22:31.05 | jonpry | something was on the ml about throwing in the towel |
| 22:31.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, i really meant i want to have ubuntu with x11 or meego. as for msm7k and x1, I still have some homework - proper cm7 integration, camera lib, camera focus, light sensor etc |
| 22:33.22 | jonpry | sgs2 too easy? |
| 22:33.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | btw, jonpry, do you think 2012q3 will see a lot of laptops with resolutions like 1080p and higher? rumours are macbook will have a 1800p display. do you know if it was technically impossible to produce good displays long ago or it were just greedy OEMs willing to keep old-gen panels for as long as possible? |
| 22:34.14 | Willd | Alex[sp3dev]: The latter :( |
| 22:34.35 | jonpry | i have a 1080p laptop. and a friend of mine had wuxga like 8 years ago |
| 22:34.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, sgs2 is not too easy, but i don't have time right now for any kind of hacking. i want to port a lot of stuff to vanilla/linaro tree but for now the easier way is cleaning up and fixing android tree |
| 22:36.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: i have a 1680x1050 laptop, but it's 15 inch. and before 2007 hi-res laptops were rather common iirc.. i'm just looking for a lightweight hi-res laptop with good battery. i think in autumn there'll be cool panels, but i really need the laptop now and in summer. in autumn and winter i travel less somehow and need portability less |
| 22:36.34 | Willd | Alex[sp3dev]: UX31 has 1600x900 |
| 22:36.34 | jonpry | i think laptop displays have been low res because people are just so dumb. before everyone knew that you needed 1080p to see all of blueray. all they knew was low res has bigger font and is easier to read |
| 22:36.40 | Willd | You do get around with it |
| 22:37.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | Willd: well, i'd rather go for vaio or hp because i can plug a second battery and also i don't have to use stupid external convertors for vga/ethernet |
| 22:37.57 | Willd | Alex[sp3dev]: True reasons! |
| 22:38.32 | Willd | Alex[sp3dev]: I found myself not needing wired ethernet, so it fit me perfectly |
| 22:38.51 | jonpry | i have an asus n53sv |
| 22:39.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | as for sgs2. well. exams at the uni are over and i have a week of holidays. just need to finish some crap at work and i think i'll have some days to hack on my projects |
| 22:40.00 | jonpry | cm7 for x1? |
| 22:40.27 | jonpry | retina display for laptop would be awesome |
| 22:40.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: possibly. my plan is to fix makefiles in xdandroid ril and acoustic so we can just add our git to the cm7 manifest for x1 |
| 22:41.06 | jonpry | gposit? |
| 22:41.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | what's that |
| 22:42.23 | jonpry | thing that uses 3d to do composition under gingerbread |
| 22:42.53 | jonpry | i built it on cm7. and its basically as fast as xdandroid |
| 22:42.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | what are the real users for it? |
| 22:43.19 | jonpry | real users? |
| 22:43.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | i mean, is there something that gets dramatically faster because of it? |
| 22:44.35 | jonpry | not really. i was hoping to make ics fast enough to be used |
| 22:45.31 | jonpry | imho it makes regular adblauncher fast |
| 22:46.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, i'd like to finish some makefile work and cleanup some kernel code, apply patches from users. but i really want to work more on x11 and userland stuff. i think i want a working FSO dialer in ubuntu so for now i'm ready to sacrifice kernel code purity to get time to work on userland |
| 22:47.12 | jonpry | rhobuntu dialer? |
| 22:47.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | i like x1 and we've done a lot of work on msm7k, but the device is too slow for x11, there is no interest from other projects (fso/om) |
| 22:48.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | rhobuntu is a bit rough |
| 22:48.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | i heard there's a telepathy plugin for ofono |
| 22:48.36 | jonpry | yeah i never managed to make a phone call with it |
| 22:48.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | actually in case you didn't know there's a freesmartphone.org (SHR) project. i think using their gsm daemon is the best way |
| 22:49.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | either way i (or someone else) need to write modem plugin for sgs2 and fix alsa there. |
| 22:49.37 | jonpry | webos port could be in the future |
| 22:50.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: btw, here is a story (in russian) with screenshots about running SHR on x1. not quite usable but it was a funny experience http://juick.com/alexst/ |
| 22:50.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | oops |
| 22:50.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://juick.com/alexst/1501638 |
| 22:52.26 | jonpry | looks pretty good |
| 22:52.46 | jonpry | i vote for full cli |
| 22:53.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | i have a dream of a screen-like terminal emulator, with tabs and splitting, and that can be controlled via touchscreen and has onscreen keyboard |
| 22:55.12 | jonpry | vt's are enough for me |
| 22:55.23 | jonpry | need some bash scripts for answering calls |
| 22:56.14 | jonpry | ascii art camera app |
| 22:56.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, i like the idea of android-less telephony. for modem we can use either ofono or fso gsm daemon. for sound we can port and fix alsa driver. i'd prefer the x11 ui, but it's too heavy for msm7k |
| 22:57.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | i just hate openembedded for building rootfs. is there a distro that has a lot of common packages (players, browsers, such crap), supports armv4 and is not debian? |
| 22:58.11 | jonpry | i had to write a libaudio that would actually work with msm alsa |
| 22:58.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | for android? |
| 22:58.49 | jonpry | yeah. apq8060 is effectively alsa only |
| 22:59.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | i think msm8960 even uses wm8903 codec |
| 22:59.34 | jonpry | and it turns out there is nothing in particular wrong with msm alsa. it just makes some assumptions that lots of software doesn't like |
| 23:00.50 | jonpry | causes that mplayer lock up kind of thing |
| 23:02.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | actually there's a strange issue on sgs2. if i play music in android and use alsa in chroot, everything is fine. if sound is not opened by android, all apps show 0% playback. haven't tried debugging yet |
| 23:03.00 | jonpry | thats exynos? |
| 23:03.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes |
| 23:05.15 | jonpry | no idea |
| 23:10.04 | GNUtoo | did you trace the proprietary alsa lib? |
| 23:11.11 | GNUtoo | ah ok not tried to debug it yet |
| 23:11.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: no, did not have time |
| 23:11.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | had exams. now need to finish some other project and will work on it |
| 23:11.33 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 23:12.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | well |
| 23:12.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | i've been writing a piece of java code for 2 hours already, launched it for the first time and it worked as expected. weird |