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| 19:25.24 | CptAJ[vlza] | Alex[sp3dev], you were right. It was the memory mapping. I deactivated the second bank and reduced the first to 96mb and it booted completely. Gonna do a few more tests |
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| 19:57.49 | LordAllutoc | hi |
| 20:17.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | CptAJ[vlza]: good. when you're done you may try using winmo map |
| 20:17.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | CptAJ[vlza]: i thought of memory because i got kicked in butt by DMA two times when porting LK to hd mini |
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| 20:22.12 | LordAllutoc | I rate Alex's DMA love as 5/10 |
| 20:23.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | i rate LordAllutoc's cotullaism 10/10 |
| 20:24.00 | LordAllutoc | I rate that as 10/10 too |
| 20:24.21 | LordAllutoc | so in common it's 20/10 |
| 20:24.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | you forgot to normalize |
| 20:24.39 | LordAllutoc | 2/1 |
| 20:24.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | normalize as in divide by magnitude |
| 20:25.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | anyway |
| 20:26.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | i wonder what sucks - AOKP rom or skype and why skype is rotated |
| 20:28.29 | LordAllutoc | what is AOKP? |
| 20:29.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | some (yet another) android custom rom. ics. i think i'll revert to samsung's firmware until because video recording and hdmi are not working on customs |
| 20:30.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | LordAllutoc: please rate these and say which you like more http://ogo1.ru/market/noutbuki/50547-Sony_VPC-SA3X9R http://ogo1.ru/market/noutbuki/52015-Sony_VPC-Z21X9R |
| 20:30.55 | LordAllutoc | hm sony |
| 20:30.58 | LordAllutoc | I got sony NB too |
| 20:31.18 | LordAllutoc | but it's small one 11.6' |
| 20:31.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | i want a light laptop with good battery life. unfortunately thinkpad and hp are too heavy and macbook air has low resolution |
| 20:32.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | isn't 11.6 too small? can you see a thing there? |
| 20:32.44 | LordAllutoc | yes a bit small |
| 20:33.09 | LordAllutoc | but there only 1366x768 |
| 20:33.18 | LordAllutoc | here on 13' u will got 1600x900 |
| 20:33.27 | LordAllutoc | should be almost same like my 11 right? |
| 20:33.33 | LordAllutoc | DPI |
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| 20:34.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | at home (actually at the dormitory (obschaga)) i'm using external monitor when coding and reading documentation. but when on train/bus, i think 11.6 is difficult for eyes |
| 20:34.12 | zeusk | hai guise |
| 20:34.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | goose! |
| 20:36.13 | zeusk | i had a vaio z12, nice nb, but small screen |
| 20:36.37 | LordAllutoc | hm are they have too big cost for such NBs? |
| 20:36.42 | LordAllutoc | is it expensive shop? |
| 20:36.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'm choosing between these two. first one is more powerful, but second one is even lighter and no dvd) |
| 20:37.06 | LordAllutoc | can u turn off ATI in the first one? |
| 20:37.31 | zeusk | ati is very bad with unix :p |
| 20:37.42 | zeusk | (or it's derivatives) |
| 20:37.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | LordAllutoc: for such a laptop that's a good price. it's core i5/i7, 7h battery and good screen. and they weight 1.5 kg. while a thinkpad/elitebook will cost 1.5 times less, it is at least 2.5kg |
| 20:37.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk: linux is neither unix nor its derivative |
| 20:37.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | so ati on linux is good |
| 20:38.04 | LordAllutoc | dunno ati works on my old PC |
| 20:38.18 | LordAllutoc | dunno about speed |
| 20:38.22 | LordAllutoc | but working |
| 20:38.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | i have r600g in my laptop. and mesa. it supports opengl 3.0, opengl es 2.0, openvg and the support for opencl is being added |
| 20:38.49 | LordAllutoc | u sure they are working 7 hours? |
| 20:39.16 | zeusk | factory conditions... |
| 20:39.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | LordAllutoc: if they're working at least 4.5 hours with stock battery, i'll be more than happy. my thinkpad barely lasts 1.5 hours |
| 20:39.44 | LordAllutoc | wait, on high load? |
| 20:40.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | LordAllutoc: no, on wifi + pdf viewer |
| 20:40.10 | LordAllutoc | hm |
| 20:40.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'm not going to compile android on the go |
| 20:40.35 | LordAllutoc | they also claim 6 hours for my one, but it's only when u read the text only |
| 20:41.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'm also looking at hp elitebook 8440p/8460p. i just need to go to a large shop and try all of them to see how heavy they are and how good the build quality is |
| 20:41.22 | LordAllutoc | if u won't play modern games and u want less weight u should choose the second one IMHO |
| 20:41.45 | LordAllutoc | on ur place I will buy the second one definitely |
| 20:41.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | linux has no games, you know it |
| 20:41.54 | LordAllutoc | cuz u are not going to compile anything on it |
| 20:42.01 | LordAllutoc | why u need linux there? |
| 20:42.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | because i need linux for my job ;) |
| 20:42.24 | LordAllutoc | linux mean == battery is not more than 1.5 hours |
| 20:42.36 | LordAllutoc | maybe it's reason for ur current NB |
| 20:42.40 | LordAllutoc | did u check it with Windows? |
| 20:43.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | with fglrx (proprietary ati driver) i was getting the same time in linux and windows. with opensource driver - around 70%. i'm using the opensource one because it is more stable (i have not rebooted the laptop in 34 days, and fglrx hangs after 3 suspends) |
| 20:44.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'll check out other laptops too. i think intel graphics are better for battery, right? |
| 20:45.24 | LordAllutoc | most modern ones can turn off ATI/NV |
| 20:45.30 | LordAllutoc | and go to Intel GPU |
| 20:45.38 | LordAllutoc | but NV & ATI costs more |
| 20:45.44 | LordAllutoc | do u need them? |
| 20:46.11 | LordAllutoc | maybe u can look HDD version and replace HDD by hands later also. it can be more cheap and nice. |
| 20:46.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes, i have ssd already so i can put that into a new laptop |
| 20:47.31 | LordAllutoc | yep |
| 20:47.43 | LordAllutoc | what about ASUS UX31? |
| 20:48.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | thought of that. but i'm worried about build quality a bit. will read more reviews. but overall it looks nice. like macbook, but cheaper and better screen |
| 20:49.47 | Willd | Alex[sp3dev]: You are going to like it all |
| 20:49.57 | Willd | 'cept the touchpad |
| 20:50.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | what about the touchpad |
| 20:50.42 | Willd | Alex[sp3dev]: The response time is a bit off |
| 20:50.56 | LordAllutoc | maybe wait until new UX31A comes? |
| 20:50.57 | Willd | And the multitouch is a little jittery |
| 20:51.00 | LordAllutoc | is it possible for u? |
| 20:51.20 | LordAllutoc | my sony produce very loud sounds by touchpad buttons |
| 20:51.28 | LordAllutoc | can be bad for using on lecture ;) |
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| 20:52.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | LordAllutoc: i'd like to buy a new laptop now because i'm travelling a lot in summer and in spring i often go home on weekends. in winter and autumn i usually study more and don't really need good battery ;) |
| 20:52.47 | LordAllutoc | hehe so no time to wait UX31A |
| 20:52.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | i wonder |
| 20:53.11 | LordAllutoc | but good battery is abstract very |
| 20:53.18 | LordAllutoc | what kind of things u will do on NB? |
| 20:53.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | with ipad3 and the new macbook having hi-res screens, will in 2013-2014 most laptops be 1080p? |
| 20:53.32 | LordAllutoc | if u need linux, u can use ARM based one I think . .. isn't it? |
| 20:54.00 | LordAllutoc | not sure about 1080p, cuz still some problems with DPI != 96 exist |
| 20:54.02 | LordAllutoc | exist in Windows |
| 20:54.10 | LordAllutoc | and seems no real support in Linux at all |
| 20:54.57 | zeusk | windows 8 blog has an article of screen resolution and scaling, it should fix dpi != 96 |
| 20:55.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | LordAllutoc: i mostly do coding (linux, java, opengl, matlab) and reading books. occasionally i run windows in virtualbox (like once in 3 months). when i compile huge things, i try to use the charger.. overall, i just want a laptop that will last >4h, have at least 1600x900 and not intel atom |
| 20:59.12 | LordAllutoc | cool |
| 20:59.15 | Willd | Alex[sp3dev]: You are going to like UX31 |
| 20:59.19 | LordAllutoc | I was not able to work in linux long at all |
| 20:59.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | Willd: do you have one? |
| 20:59.27 | LordAllutoc | :D |
| 20:59.34 | Willd | Alex[sp3dev]: I had one, got stolen few weeks ago though |
| 20:59.38 | Willd | *bitter |
| 20:59.40 | LordAllutoc | :( |
| 20:59.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | how come |
| 20:59.59 | Willd | Alex[sp3dev]: Anyhow, the two finger scroll should work by now |
| 21:00.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | wait |
| 21:00.35 | LordAllutoc | I suggest small mouse to Alex |
| 21:00.39 | Willd | Alex[sp3dev]: Someone nicked it from my bag when I was studying |
| 21:00.45 | LordAllutoc | I rated that mouse as 10/10 for myself |
| 21:00.48 | zeusk | i still hate the system hang when dragging files from file roller to nautilus |
| 21:00.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | UX31 is the thingie that has external usb-ethernet with some weird driver and external VGA convertor? |
| 21:00.59 | LordAllutoc | zeusk is there bug report ? |
| 21:01.00 | LordAllutoc | :D |
| 21:01.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk: the 12309 bug?) |
| 21:01.16 | Willd | Alex[sp3dev]: Yes, but it works out of the box in linux |
| 21:01.18 | zeusk | yes, its there is in launchpad |
| 21:01.33 | Willd | I've got to go, but send me a pm, and I'll tell you more |
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| 21:09.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | hmmm.. vaio has wimax. but i already have the usb dongle. anyway, good night everyone. see you |
| 21:09.51 | zeusk | bye alex |
| 21:16.17 | LordAllutoc | bb |
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| 23:54.53 | CptAJ[vlza] | alex said "<Alex[sp3dev]> CptAJ[vlza]: good. when you're done you may try using winmo map" What did he mean by winmo map? searching wont turn up anything |