IRC log for #htc-linux on 20120310

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10:50.35zeuskapt hi
10:50.35apthello, zeusk
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16:43.57zeuskAnyone still using "ARM RVDS Toolchain" ?
16:44.18Alex[sp3dev]still *not* using
16:46.10zeuskshould that be taken as sarcasm ?
16:46.24arrrghhhalex IS sarcasm
16:46.50Alex[sp3dev]omg arrrghhh is not dead
16:46.55zeusklol
16:47.03arrrghhhAlex[sp3dev], vaca.  how are you?
16:47.44Alex[sp3dev]arrrghhh: busy bro. having fun nevertheless
16:48.19zeuskubran dictionary says vaca means cow, fat woman or bitch, is that correct ?
16:48.38arrrghhhthat's always good
16:48.49arrrghhhzeusk, vaca in spanish means cow
16:48.57arrrghhhvaca in english is short for vacation.
16:49.03zeuskoh
16:49.03arrrghhhmore like va-ca
16:49.20arrrghhh"veh cay" is how it's pronounced i guess.
16:49.24arrrghhhvay cay?
16:49.24arrrghhhlol
16:49.26arrrghhhwhatever
16:49.36Alex[sp3dev]wahwah
16:53.07ray|yararrrghhh how much do you use the cr-48?
16:53.36zeusk:o chrome book, i thought they were extinct
16:53.45arrrghhhray|yar, quite a bit.  others in my house use it a lot as well.
16:53.55arrrghhhi'm normally on my new lappy tho
16:53.55ray|yarahh nevermind then
16:53.58arrrghhhwhy?
16:54.01ray|yarmisses it
16:54.02arrrghhhyou can't have it back :P
16:54.09arrrghhhlol
16:54.14ray|yarits fine, I'll find another one
16:54.17arrrghhhi thought you had a second?
16:54.33ray|yarI did
16:54.37arrrghhhyou signed up your addy and your grandma's or something?
16:54.53ray|yaryeah I actually had 3 of them total
16:54.58ray|yarI was dumb
16:55.08arrrghhhjeebus
16:55.11arrrghhhfrom 3 to 0 eh
16:55.16arrrghhhand now the regrets.... :P
16:55.16zeuskwtfbbq, intel atom powered
16:55.26ray|yaryeah
16:55.39arrrghhhzeusk, it's not going to set any land speed records, but it is nice to have around.
16:55.48Alex[sp3dev]i think x86 atom smartphones will suck
16:55.49arrrghhhloves it
16:55.59arrrghhhmedfield?  :D
16:56.03Alex[sp3dev]yes
16:56.08arrrghhhcan't believe intel is so late in the game
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16:56.17arrrghhhi guess someone had to challenge ARM
16:56.20ray|yarthey used to make arm cpus
16:56.27zeuskxscale
16:56.28ray|yarway back in the day
16:56.29ray|yaryeah
16:56.33arrrghhhindeed
16:56.40arrrghhhi still have a phone that uses it
16:56.41zeuskmy pda (atom) has it, still running PXA27x
16:56.41arrrghhhppc-6700
16:56.55zeuskThey had nice names
16:57.07zeuskIntel xScale PXA27x
16:57.08zeusklol
16:57.16ray|yarmy old sch-i730 had it too
16:57.19Alex[sp3dev]well if medfield has efi and without locked-down drm bullshit, it may beat arm. at least you could run generic x86 kernel with everything upstream
16:57.40ray|yar<PROTECTED>
16:58.05Alex[sp3dev]i had loox 720 with 272, loox 520 with pxa270@312mhz and asus p525 with pxa270@416mhz
16:58.31ray|yarmine was a samsung sch-i730 with the PXA272 running at 520mhz
16:59.05zeuskmine was running at ~480mhz, some guy on xda was able to push it to 624 stable and 768 (unstable ofc)
16:59.32ray|yarI never tried overclocking, windows mobile 2003 ran decently on it at the time
17:01.08ray|yarwow I forgot how bad that thing sucked, only wireless b,64mb ram 128mb rom, evdo rev.0
17:01.19ray|yarfull size sdcard slot
17:01.22zeuskMaybe it's just me but i still didn't understand the use of chrome os.. it's... it's just so limited..
17:01.39ray|yaryeah I wasnt running chrome on the netbooks
17:01.41zeusktalk to atom's 48mb ram ;)
17:01.53ray|yar48mb? the netbooks have 2gb
17:02.04zeusk,,,, "XDA ATOM"
17:02.09zeusknot "Intel atom"
17:02.10ray|yaroh
17:02.23arrrghhhi use chrome OS on it
17:02.24zeuskand cpu not related to ram
17:02.25arrrghhhnot sure what else i'd do with it
17:02.26zeuskoh
17:02.29ray|yararrrghhh: for future reference, no you can't upgrade the ram but you can upgrade the ssd.
17:02.35arrrghhhwhat could i cram on that tiny SSD?
17:02.40arrrghhhi know i can upgrade the SSD
17:02.47arrrghhhbut i'm not really too keen.  works fine as is.
17:02.49ray|yarI had a stripped down install of windows xp on it
17:02.50zeuskwhat can you cram in chroms os ?
17:03.02arrrghhhzeusk, cr-48
17:03.07arrrghhhray|yar, ew.
17:03.10ray|yarubuntu works but is battery rape unless you use the stock chrome os kernel
17:03.20ray|yarwindows has awesome flash performance on there, that was the reason
17:03.21zeuskyeah, reading review, but doesn't look good to me
17:03.32ray|yarit goes from like 4fps for youtube 720p up to about 35 fps
17:03.50arrrghhhjeebus
17:03.54ray|yaryea
17:03.55arrrghhhyea, flash performance on linux is a joke.
17:04.02ray|yarubuntu and chrome both suck at flash
17:04.25ray|yarthe pinetrail isnt bad at anything really other than linux support
17:05.14DuperManarrrghhh, ray|yar; decent graphics drivers
17:05.30zeuskwhat about local vids, chrome os supports mkv or mp4  ? it's running gma950m ?
17:05.49ray|yarit has like the x3100 or something like that
17:05.56DuperManguess it should support x264 or w/e
17:05.56ray|yarits whatever is in the intel pinetrail cpu
17:06.53arrrghhhzeusk, local vids?  i guess you're missing the point of ChromeOS lol
17:07.49zeuskhmm, that sounds unreasonable to me, a device JUST for internet..
17:08.31ray|yaryeah it is pretty restricting
17:08.47DuperManmy data is in the cloud=I'm drunk
17:09.54zeuskWhat if a person relies on his data in cloud like google apps (his contacts, pics, vids etc...) and google closes.. poor chap.
17:10.46arrrghhhgoogle's closing tomorrow i hear.
17:11.07arrrghhhso is dropbox
17:11.43DuperManarrrghhh: heard they both got pwn'ed by 4cha***anonymous
17:13.27arrrghhhlol
17:14.33zeuskI so want to run osx but i hate it too.
17:14.56DuperManzeusk: just get that cripple cow running and dis it two months later
17:15.00DuperManget it outta yer system
17:15.02zeuskit has nice ui + unix based so no need to dualboot linux for compiling stuff or using crap cygwin..
17:15.16DuperManrofl
17:15.26zeuskbut no games whatsoever, (not talking of angry bird kind of shit)
17:15.49DuperMan"no need for redundant X on 'said apple os'"
17:15.50DuperManlol
17:16.09DuperManslashme has bridge, u buying?
17:16.30zeuskworse part is file system, i will forever hate apple for HFS, ms for NTFS and linux for EXT, none of them can be read natively on other, WTF...
17:16.41zeuskuser is not bound by them, they should care for user.
17:16.46Alex[sp3dev]lolwhat
17:16.52Alex[sp3dev]HFS+ is supported on linux
17:17.11arrrghhhNTFS is supported on Linux
17:17.18zeuskhmm, didn't work for me on external last time i tried, 2.6.32
17:17.29DuperManfat32 rocks your world biatch
17:17.32zeuskntfs support is not good, i use ntfs-3g
17:17.32DuperManjust saying
17:17.33Alex[sp3dev]UFS ftw
17:17.46zeuskbut fat32 has 4gb file limit, no bluray rips :(
17:17.57DuperManzeusk: the price of failing
17:17.59zeuskno game iso backups
17:18.14ray|yaruses ext4 and it works in all 3 oses with drivers
17:18.25DuperManas previously demanded by me, twit the scene
17:18.32Alex[sp3dev]i think UDF would work anywhere
17:18.49DuperManain't the 'u' universal?
17:18.50DuperMan:D
17:18.50arrrghhhaccessing EXT in Windoze is a bad idea...
17:19.13Alex[sp3dev]using Windoze is a bad idea to begin with. the rest is consequences
17:19.16ray|yararrrghhh: I've been doing it for awhile and havent noticed any issues, whats wrong with it
17:19.25DuperManarrrghhh: bs. norris needs no permissions
17:19.30ray|yarthat too
17:19.35arrrghhhray|yar, Windoze just doesn't do permissions so well.  just seems like it would raep it
17:19.47arrrghhhi used a tool to do read-only access to EXT in Windoze
17:19.51arrrghhhthat's about as ballsy as i got.
17:20.09DuperManarrrghhh: windows is rubber and linux is glue, it jumps off ext and sticks to ntfs
17:20.09ray|yaridk, I move stuff between drives all the time and dont have any issues
17:20.27ray|yarwouldn't that be the opposite
17:20.40arrrghhhlol
17:20.42DuperManray|yar: read carefully. no. but managed to confuse myself for a millisec
17:20.46arrrghhhDuperMan, your argument is invalid
17:20.51ray|yarbecause aliens
17:20.59DuperManarrrghhh: arguing on the internet is invalid only
17:21.03zeuskconsidering ntfs-3g, ntfs is the only good fs apart from fat, exfat if you're multi booting.
17:21.24DuperManray|yar: no god
17:21.25Alex[sp3dev]http://nextlol.com/img/941/
17:21.48arrrghhhAlex[sp3dev], i have that exact pic in my cube @ work
17:21.48arrrghhhlol
17:21.58zeusklol
17:21.58arrrghhhsomeone asked me to explain it to them.
17:22.12ray|yarmy vibrant used to pop up and say "sms failed: Invalid Argument" all the time
17:22.14zeuskyou must have told, you're argument is invalid :p
17:22.27zeusk*your
17:22.31DuperManwill I be stoned dead for "photoshopped lulcat"?
17:22.37DuperMancowers
17:22.45ray|yaryes
17:23.09DuperManzeusk said it
17:24.36DuperManhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLKXD_Ar5CM&feature=fvst
17:24.49DuperMan(going for "furthest off topic ever")
17:25.17arrrghhhever?
17:25.25arrrghhhyea, that's pretty damned OT
17:25.39zeuskhmm, keeping the crap at bay, i have reduced the platform code for leo (lk) to 40 lines, YAY ! i get a cookie :D
17:25.47DuperManever is השמיים נגועים בנגיף התכלת ואמא שלך אכלה אתמול חומוס
17:25.51zeuskmake that 37 lines
17:25.58DuperManbut that's the best I could do sticking to one language
17:25.59Alex[sp3dev]zeusk: i bet you can reduce it to one line
17:26.04arrrghhhlol
17:26.23zeuskhmm, removing all flexibility, i can fill lk with leo code and reduce it to zero :p
17:26.23DuperMantosses cookie at zeusk
17:26.27DuperMankinda cool tbch
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17:26.55DuperManzero code running deviec? FLUX CAPACITOR
17:33.04zeuskCool :D https://github.com/zeusk/clk/blob/experimental/dev/fbcon/fbcon.c#
17:33.54zeusk...L182
17:34.39Alex[sp3dev]mad skillz
17:34.57zeuskthats how you name functions, like a baws xD
17:35.24ray|yaryou want mad skills? I found a device that can be outperformed by the tp2
17:35.26ray|yarhttp://db.tt/DCRJKoSp
17:35.55arrrghhhlol
17:36.00ray|yarand has half the screen res
17:36.01arrrghhhtp2 does better than that
17:36.06ray|yarand an 800mhz cpu
17:36.12zeusklulz, wtf is taht ?
17:36.18ray|yarsamsung intercept
17:36.24zeuskHey, atleast it beat htc magic..
17:36.26ray|yaraka the moment with a shitty screen
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17:36.50ray|yarthat magic benchmark is wrong, I could make my g1 do ~550 which is the same hardware as magic
17:37.31zeuskhmm, interesting app poop
17:38.09zeuskpooploader
17:38.11zeuskhmm
17:38.38Alex[sp3dev]so i beat you to cool names?
17:38.44zeuskyeah :(
17:39.09zeuskhands over DuperMan's cookie to alex
17:39.57Alex[sp3dev]it's the moment of clarity. either uboot works or i need to make an uart cable
17:40.06zeuskhmm, 8x8 font, not small ?
17:40.11zeusklol
17:41.56Alex[sp3dev]who needs uart when there's a usb driver in uboot already
17:42.35zeuskwho needs uboot when you have magldr
17:42.41zeusktetris !!
17:42.53DuperManpic or - wait what's the topic?
17:42.56Alex[sp3dev]i ain't touching proprietary crap
17:45.45zeusklooks like he has a lot of work kanging msm72xx code to leo
17:45.59zeuskthanks alex
17:47.14Alex[sp3dev]everyone is kanging from qcom
17:47.43zeuskwho know if qcom kang from other ?
18:05.08ray|yarwouldn't surprise me
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