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14:05.14Cotullahey
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14:32.06marc1706Cotulla: hi
14:33.31raymonddullmarc1706: unless he's actually talked recently dont get mad if he doesnt respond, he's one of those people that is like cyanogen, they idle for months then say one word then crawl back under a rock
14:34.19marc1706he said "hey" about 27 minutes ago ;)
14:34.29raymonddullahh ok then
14:34.43CotullaI am using notify :)
14:34.44phhraymonddull: err, he talks way more often than cyanogen
14:34.51Cotullahey phh
14:34.56phhhey Cotulla
14:35.00Cotullaand more often than phh too? :D
14:35.03raymonddulltrue but still not much
14:35.05phhCotulla: probably :D
14:35.11raymonddullhi Cotulla
14:35.18Cotullahey
14:35.37marc1706anyways, we get as far as __turn_mmu_on on the .38 kernel with the Leo
14:35.53marc1706unfortunately I'm unable to debug anything using virtual addresses ...
14:36.09Cotullawhy
14:36.41Cotullawhat stops u?
14:36.45marc1706it doesn't reach the board init code and mapping the gpio of the vibrator using the virtual address doesn't work either
14:37.23Cotulladid u try to add it in create_pagetables?
14:38.06marc1706I added the "add r0, r4, #0xFF000000 >> 18" and 2 more lines to  create_page_tables
14:38.34marc1706and then I tried to run the asm vibro test
14:38.34Cotullaand?
14:38.52marc1706can't see any diff there ^^
14:39.18Cotullashow ur code maybe
14:39.28Cotullacreate_pagetables and etc
14:39.52Cotullathere can be actual tons of reasons why it doesn't boot
14:40.09Cotullalike u forgot to do clean rebuild or wrong toolchain
14:40.14CotullaI had such issues before . . . :(
14:40.28marc1706I'm on arm2010q1 which works on .32 and .35
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14:40.34marc1706so I hope it works on .38
14:40.36marc1706https://github.com/marc1706/tiamat-2.6.38-LEO/blob/master/arch/arm/kernel/head.S#L217
14:40.41marc1706that's the lines in head.S
14:40.59marc1706hm, am I missing a F there?
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14:41.17marc1706that code is from markinus so I figured it is right
14:43.06marc1706I also tried mapping the vibration gpio in .35 but that fails, too
14:43.45marc1706I played around with the addresses a litle bit in .35
14:43.49marc1706if I use the virtual address 0xE000380C it fails to boot
14:43.49Cotullahm
14:44.06marc1706if I use the virtual address 0xF000380C it boots but no vibration
14:44.12Cotullau should not use addresses cuz they specified in wiki, u need find them by hands ;)
14:44.42Cotullahm
14:44.44Cotullawhy there orr   r3, r7, #0x20000000?
14:44.48Cotulla<PROTECTED>
14:45.00marc1706hm
14:45.07marc1706should it be: orr r3, r7, #0xA9000000
14:45.08marc1706?
14:45.17Cotullayes . . .
14:45.18marc1706that's what you mentioned the other day
14:45.25marc1706well then slap markinus for that :D
14:45.25Cotullaorr   r3, r7, #0x20000000 is ram
14:45.33Cotullawe used it for logging to ram
14:45.51marc1706k, I'll try out if that fixes it
14:47.58Cotullabug I remember vibro not really worked too
14:48.04Cotullamaybe u should use ram instead
14:49.08marc1706how do I get the data from ram then?
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14:49.16marc1706don't have uart for that matter ...
14:50.36CotullaMAGLDR TTY mode -> command memdump
14:51.03Cotullau write 0x11223344, reboot and then look
14:53.49marc1706well, I'll install magldr then ;)
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14:55.24Cotullais ur git working?>
14:55.28Cotulla*tree
14:55.48marc1706working in what way?
14:55.54marc1706it's compiling if you mean that
14:56.01Cotullaok
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14:56.35Cotullais this kernel supports extended display acceleration for AD40?
14:56.53zeusky0 doods
14:57.32zeuskHmmm irc over rmnet is more stable than my wifi....
14:57.45marc1706hi
14:57.52marc1706Cotulla: no idea, sry
15:00.42Cotulla"RMNET powered by Cotulla Technology (tm)" :D
15:00.47zeuskLol
15:00.50CotullaLOL
15:01.00zeuskBtw marc, lk has memdump too
15:01.26marc1706and the command is?
15:01.32zeuskLook in target/htcleo/oem_cmd.c in lk giy
15:01.37zeusk*git
15:01.37marc1706k
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15:01.45raymonddulllooks over at native android device using rmnet0
15:02.44zeuskI couldn't find much about rmnet protocol on net, its proprietary or custom?
15:02.57Cotullarmnet is just network connection
15:03.10Cotullawith ethernet frames
15:03.50zeuskWhats so different with ppp which is ised since long time in both unix and windows?
15:04.03zeuskpppoe to be exact
15:04.03Cotulladifferent . . .
15:04.13raymonddullhmm, actually I lied, this one is using ppp, my gsm devices use rmnet, cdma uses ppp
15:04.24raymonddullmainly because its internet connection is actually dialing #777
15:04.39Cotullawhat marc means?
15:06.28raymonddullzeusk: rough explanation I remember from a long time ago and that makes sense to me is rmnet is more like an ethernet connection, the modem is handling the connection itself and is showing up the system as an ethernet adapter, ppp is basically showing up to the system as a modem, and android is having to manage the connection itself, like gsm data is calling *99#, or cdma is #777
15:07.00zeuskIf (memcmp(0xECEC, (void *) 0x28000064) != 0){ BUG();}
15:07.11raymonddullCotulla: feel free to correct me if that is wrong (which it probably is)
15:07.30Cotullahtcleo_defconfig? or _cr?
15:07.50zeuskIt fails even when i load lk to 0x28000000
15:08.01zeuskSo i guess something wrong
15:08.23marc1706Cotulla: htcleo_defconfig
15:09.23Alex[sp3dev]zeusk: maybe memcmp("\xec\xec"..)? i'd think it still wants a pointer, not an integer
15:09.36Cotullaright . . .
15:09.43Cotullawtf
15:09.46Cotullaand where size?
15:09.50Cotulla<PROTECTED>
15:10.10zeuskTyping on android keyboard is paun, so i left size
15:10.15zeuskPain
15:10.18zeuskLol
15:11.02Cotullalol
15:11.11Cotullait doesn't justify u at all
15:11.20zeuskWp keyboard is so vetter
15:11.37Alex[sp3dev]they both suck
15:11.42Alex[sp3dev]harware keyboard ftw
15:11.51zeuskLeo :(
15:12.05zeuskRhod has hw kb right?
15:12.37Alex[sp3dev]it does. i don't have rhod though. but I have thinkpad for typing large amounts of BS
15:13.07zeuskHmm
15:13.18raymonddull<3 thinkpad
15:13.25raymonddullI'm typing on a t42 right now :)
15:13.32Alex[sp3dev]r500 here
15:14.04Alex[sp3dev]tbh, i want to get a vaio. because thinkpad battery sucks and the laptop is heavy. but i don't have money for that
15:14.34Cotullacuz it's heavy kill somebody with it and sell his brain :D
15:16.04fakker^
15:16.18zeuskDad has a vaio z, light as feather, fast but not good battery
15:16.47zeuskManual says its case is made from carbon fibre
15:16.48fakkeri rate your Dad's Vaio battery 2/10
15:17.04Alex[sp3dev]recognizes the pattern
15:17.16zeusk... stop rating this world, i rate ur rating 5/10
15:17.32Alex[sp3dev]i rate ur rating of his rating -1/10
15:17.36fakkerzeusk, that's pretty high isn't it?
15:17.38fakker^
15:17.40fakker:D
15:17.56zeusk:facedesk:
15:18.42raymonddullAlex[sp3dev]: my battery lasts about 7 hours if I have both the main one and the cd drive slot one in
15:19.00raymonddulland weighs just over 5lb with both in
15:19.34Alex[sp3dev]raymonddull: my lasted 4h under windoze when it was new. under linux it was about 2.5-3h (radeon didn't have power management back then). now the battery is dead and lasts 40 minutes under any os
15:20.18raymonddullhmm, awesome. I've only had this one for about 24 hours, but its like my 40th in the t4x series.
15:21.19raymonddull(I buy broken laptops on ebay, fix them, then resell them for a profit, I love thinkpads so I've had a lot of them. This one needed the gpu reflowed, which is a very common issue on the t4x and r5x series (they share the same motherboard))
15:22.30Alex[sp3dev]my dream is VAIO VPC-Z216GX. but in reality i'll probably end up with hp elitebook 8460p or some x-series 12 inch thinkpad
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15:24.06raymonddullI've been considering the x series too, I'm torn by the 2 things I love, small laptops and high res screens.
15:24.30raymonddullI'll probably end up with 2, a t43p with qxga 15" screen (2048x1536) and an x series
15:25.14Alex[sp3dev]2048x1536? now everyone is jelly
15:25.16Cotullawhat about Dell's Allien Ware and  http://www.metaprom.ru/board_foto/1258042871foto1_big.jpg  ?
15:25.25raymonddullyeah, I mean how can you argue with this: http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa131/piano_wizard/all%20computers/ThinkpadT43p.jpg
15:25.35raymonddullqxga 15" IPS screen
15:25.41zeuskWww.originpc.con
15:25.48Alex[sp3dev]alienware is heavy, hot and expenensive..
15:25.48zeusk.com
15:25.49raymonddullthat little white speck in the bottom right is the mouse cursor
15:26.17Cotullabut looks brutal
15:26.37Alex[sp3dev]no, alienware looks gay and childish
15:26.45raymonddullthats the thing though, I dont really need lots of gaming performance, tbh as long as it can handle aero I'd be happy. I'd much rather have awesome battery life over performance
15:27.00raymonddullbut usually high res displays=powerful graphics=battery rape
15:27.40zeuskIm fine with a 9600m, fast enough for me
15:28.17zeuskBf3 runs at ~35 fps on lowest after some oc
15:28.34raymonddull9600m? that thing has like 200 cores that are all faster than the 1 in my radeon 9600
15:28.37Cotullahttp://www.metaprom.ru/board_foto/1258042871foto1_big.jpg this is ur friend
15:28.40Cotullano carry about power
15:29.00Alex[sp3dev]i don't give a damn about performance (ssd and lots of ram is more important than cpu). but i just want something with a hi-res screen and >6h battery life
15:29.01Cotullaa bit about back . . .
15:29.05zeuskLOL
15:29.07Cotullabut IT needs some efforts
15:29.07raymonddullCotulla: I'd prefer for my laptop to not be useful as a boat anchor
15:29.24CotullaAlex, iPad 3 waits u already
15:29.42Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: but IT HAZ NO KEYBOARD. and IT HAZ NO LEEENOOOPS
15:29.53zeuskLeenops?
15:29.59Cotullaur req doesn't contain any words "key"
15:30.12Alex[sp3dev]we were talking about laptops
15:30.23Cotullaoh
15:30.30Cotullawhich color u want?
15:30.37raymonddull-_-
15:30.49zeuskSteve jobs said ipad will kill laptops......
15:31.05raymonddullmy ultimate laptop would be a 11" macbook air with a 1080p lcd
15:31.11Alex[sp3dev]STEVE JOBS WAS A LAPTOP?
15:31.12raymonddullor higher would be nice
15:31.18zeuskToo bad he is dead before laptops
15:31.24raymonddulltrue
15:31.29zeuskLOL
15:32.13Alex[sp3dev]that guy has cool laptop LOL http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/9324/img20111201173242.jpg
15:32.15raymonddullthough seriously, the latest gen macbook airs have like 10 hour battery life, a 128gb ssd and an i5 with intel hd 3000 graphics
15:32.25Cotullareminds everybody that caps lock located at the left
15:32.39raymonddullthat actually isnt a bad laptop, its one of samsung's netbooks
15:32.56fakkerWTF
15:33.03Alex[sp3dev]no that's a chinese mips netbook
15:33.05zeuskIve used the 17inch macbook pro, nothing special about it
15:33.25Alex[sp3dev]fakker: WTF are you WTFing
15:33.46raymonddullzeusk: I completely agree, there is nothing special about the mbp, but mba? its so sexy. 11" lcd, like .5" thick at its thickest point, it weighs like 2lb, and has ~10 hour battery life
15:33.48raymonddullwhat is not to love
15:33.58raymonddulland you can run windows or linux on it too, you're not stuck with mac os
15:34.47raymonddullright now my only complaint is that its 1366x768 but if the latest round of rumors is correct thats going to change soon
15:35.03zeuskNo thankd raymonddull, just read some rants on mba by linus himself ...
15:35.27raymonddullsupposedly ipad is getting qxga@10" and the 17" mbp is getting something 3440x whatever makes that 16:10
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15:35.35raymonddullzeusk: what is his complaint about it?
15:35.44zeuskWTF
15:35.46zeuskWtf
15:36.00zeusk3440x on 27"
15:36.03zeuskOmfg
15:36.05raymonddullno, 17"
15:36.11zeusk...
15:36.13raymonddulland yeah thats one of the rumors I've heard lately
15:36.35Alex[sp3dev]raymonddull: here is my laptop btw http://c43d.iz.piccy.info.nyud.net:8080/i7/3dc4d70256036a34c1efafb56e6888ee/1-5-2439/55513651/IMG_20111205_195813.jpg
15:37.07raymonddullheh your power cord looks like what I had on my old dell
15:37.12ayakacan i boot a leedroid rom which use leedroid kernel by htc dev kernel
15:37.36zeusk... le wild troll appears
15:38.06Alex[sp3dev]ayaka: in short, you can run any rom with any kernel. just read on initrd/initramfs and how to unpack/pack boot images
15:39.00raymonddullwell I wouldnt say any rom, doesnt sense have some weird stuff thrown in that breaks stuff? I know it does on native devices, but I havent been around the hd2 since froyo
15:39.10ayakareally? then can i use root= xx to,set the root partition in fastoot
15:39.22Cotullalol
15:39.27raymonddullback when nand was coming in september
15:39.28raymonddulllmfao
15:39.35Cotullawhy no troll face on it?
15:39.40zeuskWhy fastboot, do that using mkbootimg
15:39.44Alex[sp3dev]you can unless you have an initrd. initrd overrides root= thing
15:41.18zeuskHmm im really suprised rmnet more stable than wifi
15:41.25zeuskGood job cotulla
15:42.45raymonddullhttp://goo.gl/0L1pV  and http://goo.gl/nZth6
15:42.48raymonddullthose are mine
15:43.20raymonddullfor about a week anyway
15:43.26ayakaif compiled kernel under cygwin, how to take up vmlinuz?
15:43.50Cotullait will be there
15:44.00raymonddullgotta order some flux and reflow this thing the right way, stress test it, then sell it
15:44.05Alex[sp3dev]windows detected
15:44.19raymonddullright now it still freezes if I pick it up with one hand
15:44.25Cotullalinux fanatic detected
15:44.44zeuskWhy vmlinuz, u need image or zimage if im not wrong
15:44.45Alex[sp3dev]you're saying linux fanatic as if it is something bad
15:45.00Cotullayeah :(
15:45.21raymonddullAlex[sp3dev]: yes its running windows because of a few specific bugs with linux on this hardware, most notably the fact that turning on the thinklight forces 100% cpu usage until its turned off, and backlight control and bios volume control don't work
15:45.52Alex[sp3dev]raymonddull: i see. indeed, any vendor-specific acpi extensions tend to suck
15:46.39ayakazeusk what is the different?
15:46.45Cotullacomputer halt during dragging files from archive - hardware bug?
15:47.01zeuskNope
15:47.11zeuskLubuntu bug
15:47.25Cotullabut HOW?
15:47.38Alex[sp3dev]actually there's one bug in linux scsi subsystem that's driving me mad
15:48.06zeuskMaybe window manager pass null path to fileroller (default archive manager)
15:48.17raymonddullassholes, I fall asleep for 4 hours and someone steals like half of my pizza and the garlic butter sauce. -_- and now they're all sleeping
15:48.17Cotullaand?
15:48.21Cotullait's userspace
15:48.45Alex[sp3dev]this one https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/12/25/32 . recent distros using udisks (ubuntu/fedora) can crash kernel during usb hotplug. that's so freebsd'ish
15:48.56zeuskIt drove me mad too cotulla... but its the only linux with good hardware support and not full of bloat
15:49.07Cotullait is
15:49.24Cotullaor kernel stack overflow
15:49.28CotullaI just LOL LOL LOL
15:49.51raymonddullso what good distros do you guys run?
15:50.09raymonddullI use lmde on decent hardware, and lubuntu on crappy hardware
15:50.17zeuskLubuntu + windows here
15:50.19Alex[sp3dev]debian sid. without gnome/udisks/*Kit and other modern crap
15:50.50CotullaI am using old Ubuntu and LUbuntu . . .
15:51.27zeuskArch Linux seems good but not for dev, linux, android and many projects depend on old libs...
15:51.37ayakawell i want to run debian wheezy in my evo 3d
15:51.47zeusk..
15:51.50Cotulla..
15:51.52raymonddullso I think we made an accomplishment, this is the most active I've seen this channel  in months
15:52.00Alex[sp3dev]i'm running ubuntu 12.04 on my tablet
15:52.02raymonddullstupid space bar
15:52.09zeuskLol
15:52.13Cotullaevo3d has usb host?
15:52.21Cotullaand display out?
15:52.25raymonddullyup
15:52.30zeuskDisplay out yed
15:52.37zeuskDunno abt host
15:52.42raymonddullpretty sure it does usb host
15:52.47Alex[sp3dev]is thinking of doing some work on x1 again
15:53.02raymonddullis thinking about going back to an hd2
15:53.02Cotullawants display out on LEO
15:53.03zeuskSony x1?
15:53.10Alex[sp3dev]zeusk: yeah
15:53.55zeuskCotulla, i remember some guy on leo got display out working with usb host on linuxtogo kernel
15:54.09Cotullait's software one
15:55.09Cotullagotta go now see u later
15:55.19zeuskBb
15:55.24Alex[sp3dev]on my sgs2 tvout via hdmi doesn't work. i guess my monitor sucks, displayport->hdmi convertor from thinkpad doesn't work either
15:55.55zeuskUse dlna screen mirroring?
16:04.02raymonddull:o they have that?
16:04.26raymonddullmy tv supports dlna through its built in networking, thats how it streams stuff from my router
16:11.41raymonddullwants to go back to leo, victory sucks
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16:55.32ayakathank you
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17:05.16zeuskmarc1706: any progress?
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18:22.36flybackbbl, bathroom
18:38.22marc17061zeusk: no, not yet
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