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| 16:51.44 | WisTilt2 | Anyone home? |
| 16:52.06 | zeusk | yep |
| 16:52.28 | DuperMan | no* |
| 16:52.37 | zeusk | ... |
| 16:53.30 | zeusk | So how are you on irc DuperMan ? Hypermagnetic ionized electron Brain waves ? |
| 16:53.37 | zeusk | lol |
| 16:57.07 | WisTilt2 | detule, been busy with a large project so haven't been following this much. ran 3.2 for a couple weeks with no major probs other than needing to reboot occasionally. Anything new going on or is this pretty much dead now? |
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| 16:57.23 | DuperMan | lol. cellular reception? office pc? |
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| 17:02.50 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh! whats the good word? I see you're getting hammered with white stuff |
| 17:02.56 | zeusk | but that would depend on how "home" is defined on the interwebs |
| 17:03.26 | zeusk | he got owned, forced by his company guy to get an iphone ... |
| 17:03.46 | WisTilt2 | ? arrrghhh went rogue? |
| 17:03.56 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, what's up |
| 17:04.02 | arrrghhh | i am getting hammered with the white stuff |
| 17:04.15 | arrrghhh | drive to work - wasn't so bad. drive home... looks like it could be. |
| 17:04.29 | WisTilt2 | yeah saw on the news. well good for your annual trip i hope |
| 17:04.45 | arrrghhh | unfortunately the mountains aren't getting a damned thing |
| 17:05.19 | arrrghhh | it's upslope storm, so it's coming from the east basically. gets pushed up into the mountains and dumps on the metro area, but really nothing up in the hills where they need it... |
| 17:05.23 | arrrghhh | how you been man? |
| 17:05.24 | arrrghhh | busy eh? |
| 17:05.28 | WisTilt2 | we've been really dry out here also. more like spring weather all winter so far and our snowpack is pretty much non-existent |
| 17:05.41 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 17:05.47 | WisTilt2 | not good for our farming and cattle |
| 17:06.56 | WisTilt2 | yes been busy with another big project. no time for playing with this stuff at all for another couple months. |
| 17:07.42 | arrrghhh | aw. |
| 17:15.08 | WisTilt2 | I see that 3.3 is out now. is detule or jonpry on that already? |
| 17:15.36 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 17:15.41 | arrrghhh | haven't heard anything about 3.3 from them |
| 17:15.50 | arrrghhh | detule has been fighting the good fight tho |
| 17:16.14 | WisTilt2 | whats he been working on? |
| 17:16.33 | arrrghhh | acoustic code, and maintaining the newer kernels |
| 17:16.47 | arrrghhh | AFAIK the last thing he was doing is bringing BT to all of 'em |
| 17:16.58 | arrrghhh | last i checked 3.0 was still the only new kernel w/BT |
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| 17:25.18 | WisTilt2 | i havent tried 3.0 with BT yet. |
| 17:27.43 | arrrghhh | i don't really use BT, so me neither :P |
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| 18:23.30 | detule | Hi WisTilt2 |
| 18:24.12 | detule | i was thinking about waiting til 3.3 is out of rc |
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| 18:38.44 | WisTilt2 | hey detule. yeah probably a good idea. they are moving fast with upping kernel versions. just checking in to see whats going. busy with a big project so going to be pretty scarce another couple months. if you need 3.3 on the autobuild just email me and ill make it so. |
| 18:55.14 | detule | thanks for taking care of the autobuild, it makes life very easy |
| 18:59.01 | arrrghhh | indeedy |
| 18:59.04 | arrrghhh | moar kernels |
| 18:59.05 | arrrghhh | lol |
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| 19:43.06 | dcordes | hi |
| 19:43.22 | dcordes | arrrghhh: kernel autobuild ? |
| 19:43.34 | arrrghhh | we have many, why? |
| 19:44.00 | arrrghhh | many, erm... 2 |
| 19:44.19 | arrrghhh | i guess 3 if you count the google zimage site, but that's really a mirror of glemsom's autobuild. |
| 19:44.21 | arrrghhh | why, what's up dcordes ? |
| 19:45.41 | dcordes | just wondering |
| 19:46.09 | dcordes | kernel autobuild is useful. we had some for 7kA devices iirc |
| 19:46.30 | arrrghhh | yea, glemsom has had one for us for ages |
| 19:46.41 | arrrghhh | and WisTilt2 has been maintaining an autobuild for .39+ kernels |
| 19:48.13 | dcordes | what kernel verisons are you using now for 7ka family ? |
| 19:48.51 | arrrghhh | we've got a wide array |
| 19:48.57 | arrrghhh | .27, .35, .39, 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2 |
| 19:49.25 | dcordes | oh cool it is great to hear you are able to run such a recent version |
| 19:49.32 | arrrghhh | i know, it's crazy |
| 19:49.34 | dcordes | what about mainline ;) |
| 19:49.40 | arrrghhh | SoC from 2007, running brand spankin new kernels |
| 19:49.53 | arrrghhh | you mean pushing our code to the linux kernel? doubt that'll happen. |
| 19:49.54 | dcordes | ya no way to get this from the manufacturer... |
| 19:51.30 | dcordes | if you aim for running the kernel and interacting with serial only... |
| 19:51.38 | dcordes | it's not such a huge project |
| 19:51.52 | dcordes | wonders about current msm status in mainline |
| 19:52.02 | arrrghhh | i don't know to be honest... |
| 19:52.23 | detule | msm is ok...they 7k is just forgotten |
| 19:52.57 | detule | they have a very up-to-date 3.0 msm tree up on CA |
| 19:53.05 | dcordes | arrrghhh: is there some place to look up such things as where is the kernel for diamond ? |
| 19:53.26 | arrrghhh | dcordes, we have one kernel to rule them all |
| 19:53.27 | dcordes | detule: did they drop 7xxxx ? |
| 19:53.42 | arrrghhh | and i don't think .35+ runs on the DIAM. not many (if any) devs have one o dem. |
| 19:54.01 | dcordes | arrrghhh: so what's the populare 7ka device |
| 19:54.09 | arrrghhh | TP2 |
| 19:54.20 | detule | not dropped just none of the recent commits seem to be updating any 7k code...understandably so |
| 19:55.10 | Cotulla | hey dcordes |
| 19:55.48 | dcordes | wow, nice tp2 deals on the internet |
| 19:55.50 | dcordes | hi Cotulla |
| 19:56.27 | dcordes | detule: well if they don't break any of the 7k stuff then no need to update ? |
| 19:56.44 | dcordes | arrrghhh: where to find kernel info etc. on tp2 ? |
| 19:56.53 | arrrghhh | dcordes, .27? |
| 19:57.00 | dcordes | arrrghhh: if I get one don't want to grep logs for URIs :P |
| 19:57.07 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 19:57.15 | arrrghhh | just wondering what kernel. there's a couple as you can tell... |
| 19:57.31 | dcordes | no website where all are listed ? |
| 19:57.37 | arrrghhh | well they're all over |
| 19:57.45 | detule | there really is just two gitorious repos |
| 19:57.45 | arrrghhh | and i don't think there is a central place that lists 'em |
| 19:57.48 | detule | one for .27 and .35 |
| 19:57.51 | detule | and one for the rest |
| 19:57.51 | arrrghhh | IIRC .39+ is all on one repo |
| 19:58.06 | dcordes | lol http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page suffered from earthquake ? |
| 19:58.07 | arrrghhh | yea... what he said :P |
| 19:58.17 | arrrghhh | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commits/htc-msm-2.6.27 |
| 19:58.18 | detule | rhod +.39 https://gitorious.org/linux-msm-rhod/linux-msm-rhod |
| 19:58.26 | arrrghhh | detule, thank you sir that worked out perfectly |
| 19:58.32 | detule | :) |
| 19:59.39 | Cotulla | are u working under new Ubuntu for LEO, dcordes? |
| 19:59.47 | dcordes | forgot all the codename retailname associations |
| 19:59.50 | dcordes | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Devices |
| 19:59.51 | arrrghhh | he's coming to the darkside |
| 20:00.00 | arrrghhh | dcordes, fix our GPS problems :P |
| 20:00.07 | dcordes | Cotulla: I will in lecture / exam free time |
| 20:00.11 | Cotulla | ohh |
| 20:00.14 | Cotulla | learning ;) |
| 20:00.23 | dcordes | Cotulla: looking forward to try SHR again |
| 20:00.33 | Cotulla | they did something great? |
| 20:00.38 | Cotulla | arrrghhh, which problems u have? ^^ |
| 20:00.45 | detule | leo is same amss as rhod right? |
| 20:00.49 | dcordes | Cotulla: yes starting the learning marathon now |
| 20:00.49 | detule | 6125 or whatever |
| 20:00.50 | arrrghhh | detule, tnoes |
| 20:00.56 | Cotulla | ofcourse no |
| 20:01.05 | Cotulla | 1550 live in our hearts |
| 20:01.11 | Cotulla | <3 |
| 20:01.14 | arrrghhh | Cotulla, well someone took our GPS code and "enhanced" it for the HD2 |
| 20:01.20 | arrrghhh | hoping someone could port that back to us... |
| 20:01.23 | Cotulla | ohh |
| 20:01.26 | arrrghhh | added XTRA, warm injection, etc. |
| 20:01.33 | arrrghhh | fancy GPS features, y'know the ones you don't care about. |
| 20:01.38 | Cotulla | it should be near |
| 20:01.41 | Cotulla | to port back ;) |
| 20:01.46 | arrrghhh | i would think so |
| 20:01.50 | arrrghhh | just need someone to _do it_ :P |
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| 20:02.05 | Cotulla | that's a problem |
| 20:02.36 | dcordes | Cotulla: is gps part of qsd8k or is it preipheral ? |
| 20:02.59 | Cotulla | inside + rf chip |
| 20:03.02 | detule | the rpc calls in their lib look awful lot like ours |
| 20:03.14 | Cotulla | but not fully :D |
| 20:03.18 | arrrghhh | detule, i swear someone said they took our GPS stuff and extended it. |
| 20:03.26 | arrrghhh | i think it was someone smart too, like emwe or Entropy512 |
| 20:03.29 | arrrghhh | certainly wasn't me :P |
| 20:03.47 | dcordes | Cotulla: ok |
| 20:04.06 | arrrghhh | dcordes, i can point you to the thread i speak of |
| 20:04.13 | dcordes | arrrghhh: yea cool |
| 20:04.18 | arrrghhh | 1 sec |
| 20:04.21 | dcordes | arrrghhh: something to copy paste into wiki |
| 20:04.26 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 20:04.32 | dcordes | ellisway: ping |
| 20:04.34 | detule | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100114 |
| 20:04.43 | arrrghhh | damn you're fast. |
| 20:04.48 | detule | i had it open |
| 20:04.51 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 20:04.54 | arrrghhh | fair enough. |
| 20:05.16 | dcordes | Cheap Edinburgh Hotels and Accommodation in Edinburgh Auld Reekie and accommodation Scotland. |
| 20:05.24 | dcordes | arrrghhh: thx |
| 20:05.35 | dcordes | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges |
| 20:05.36 | arrrghhh | np |
| 20:05.41 | arrrghhh | thank you sir |
| 20:05.45 | detule | i need to disassemble that remote_api dll to see if our rpc calls matchup |
| 20:05.47 | arrrghhh | now i expect you to have that ported by the end of the week. |
| 20:05.54 | arrrghhh | :D |
| 20:05.56 | dcordes | ^^ |
| 20:06.39 | dcordes | need to buy rhod first |
| 20:06.59 | Cotulla | do not buy it :D |
| 20:06.59 | detule | need to figure out how to disassemble winmo dlls in linux first |
| 20:07.08 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 20:07.12 | arrrghhh | detule, that's what Cotulla is for |
| 20:07.18 | arrrghhh | didn't you know this? |
| 20:07.29 | dcordes | Cotulla: why not ? |
| 20:08.01 | arrrghhh | dcordes, it's slow and old. but you should still buy one :P |
| 20:08.09 | dcordes | Cotulla: I would really like to get a qwerty device more recent than kaiser |
| 20:08.38 | dcordes | arrrghhh: guess it's faster than kais |
| 20:08.41 | arrrghhh | yes |
| 20:08.48 | dcordes | 7200 non-a |
| 20:08.48 | arrrghhh | TP2 isn't terribly slow i guess |
| 20:08.49 | dcordes | :) |
| 20:08.54 | arrrghhh | but compared to HD2... it's bad :P |
| 20:09.17 | dcordes | nvm I want to install SHR on it |
| 20:09.35 | Cotulla | it's very slow |
| 20:09.39 | dcordes | the gui |
| 20:09.46 | Cotulla | SHR will be fucking slow there |
| 20:09.47 | dcordes | but if you think text dialer .. :) |
| 20:09.51 | Cotulla | I can imagine it already |
| 20:09.58 | Cotulla | how it draw screens for seconds |
| 20:10.06 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.25 | Cotulla | kaiser was 320x240 right? |
| 20:10.27 | dcordes | yes |
| 20:10.29 | dcordes | qvga |
| 20:10.35 | Cotulla | so it faster |
| 20:10.54 | dcordes | Cotulla: SHR gui sucks. bad performance, no consistency. but rest is cool |
| 20:11.11 | dcordes | Cotulla: openembedded is just plain good and the present phone API is not too bad |
| 20:11.28 | Cotulla | did u release for LEO test variant? |
| 20:12.13 | dcordes | no |
| 20:12.23 | dcordes | I always thought it should be optimized some more |
| 20:12.50 | dcordes | there is the one I sent you for personal test but never made it public |
| 20:13.37 | zeusk | hmm, shr is stable on leo ? |
| 20:13.47 | dcordes | miles from that |
| 20:14.58 | dcordes | what's the kernel tree of choice for android on leo nowadays ? |
| 20:15.12 | dcordes | zeusk: actually it's a 100 miles from being usable on any device |
| 20:15.32 | zeusk | lol |
| 20:15.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: have you seen aurora? |
| 20:15.59 | zeusk | still on .32 from sd days, but seems .35 from bravo is stable enough for daily use. |
| 20:16.31 | Cotulla | lol Alex |
| 20:16.43 | Cotulla | I see aurora |
| 20:16.46 | Cotulla | by my eyes |
| 20:16.50 | Cotulla | *saw |
| 20:16.54 | Cotulla | cool ship |
| 20:16.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | aurora as in new FSO gui, not real life crap |
| 20:16.59 | dcordes | zeusk: maybe that was a bit harsh.. I think some people really managed to get shr nearly usable on some non htc devices |
| 20:17.23 | Cotulla | aurora is ship |
| 20:17.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: and i've seen Aurora too. have been to SPB two times |
| 20:17.37 | Cotulla | cool |
| 20:17.41 | Cotulla | do u like it? |
| 20:17.59 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: nope |
| 20:18.11 | zeusk | aurora are also the natural phenomenon observed when charged particles in space interact with charged particles in ionosphere. |
| 20:18.31 | zeusk | hmm |
| 20:18.35 | Cotulla | dcordes specially for u: http://www.gopiter.ru/assets/images/avrora1.jpg |
| 20:18.40 | zeusk | too late i guess. |
| 20:18.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: yes. Petersburg seems cleaner than moscow. we visited some places of interest (I liked isaac cathedral). and I liked the metro stations |
| 20:19.04 | dcordes | Cotulla: nice boat |
| 20:19.21 | Cotulla | lol now I know how to find cool wallpapers |
| 20:19.22 | zeusk | I've been to Petersburg in Hitman 2 :D |
| 20:19.22 | Cotulla | ^^ |
| 20:19.28 | Cotulla | just google "aurora" |
| 20:19.47 | dcordes | seen cheap flies to petersburg from nuremberg |
| 20:20.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: aurora is a qt4 frontend for SHR. the dialer is nice and overall the ui is faster than e17 and resembles n900 maemo look |
| 20:20.08 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: so you went sightseeing ? |
| 20:20.31 | Cotulla | what's up with bada & tizen? |
| 20:20.36 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: ah that rings a bell now.. I was gonna check for progress on the new shr gui but had no clue where to check |
| 20:20.37 | Cotulla | can be cool thing to port on leo later |
| 20:21.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: bada is closed-source (at least, for now). tizen is not yet released.. i think all cool kids from meego went to work on Mer now |
| 20:21.26 | dcordes | wtf Mer |
| 20:21.34 | Cotulla | samsung said |
| 20:21.36 | Cotulla | they will open source it? |
| 20:21.42 | dcordes | lol yet another .. |
| 20:21.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: maybe, but not yet |
| 20:21.52 | Cotulla | I said "later" :) |
| 20:22.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: Mer was an old project to rebuild maemo with opensource components. then it was shut down. now it is reborn based on meego. i think it is called Mer Nemo |
| 20:22.40 | Cotulla | I installed the last ubuntu . .. it's such trash btw |
| 20:22.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCCxjO0CXjw i think this is Mer |
| 20:22.47 | Cotulla | previous ones was much better . . . |
| 20:23.14 | dcordes | Cotulla: true I have oneiric installed. gnome is become useless |
| 20:23.40 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: ok thx. was wondering what happened to meego when I saw some of the devs will visit fosdem |
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| 20:23.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | i think gnome3 was written by perverts |
| 20:24.17 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: did you try aurora personally ? |
| 20:24.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | i have no other explanation for why you have to move the mouse to the left top corner and back all the time |
| 20:24.29 | dcordes | haha |
| 20:24.36 | Cotulla | hehe |
| 20:24.44 | Cotulla | there much more issues |
| 20:24.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: yeah, tried nexus s image on my sgs2. but without modem yet |
| 20:24.49 | Cotulla | primary with GUI |
| 20:25.00 | Cotulla | Alex, and what is ur impessions? |
| 20:25.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: ubuntu is not using gnome shell iirc.. I was using gnome3 on Fedora. Fedora is infected with poettering, you know |
| 20:25.20 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: shr image for nexus.. form GNUtoo ? |
| 20:25.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: i think i downloaded it from shr releases page |
| 20:25.55 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: also wondering about ur aurora experience. |
| 20:26.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: aurora looks cool but I think most features of e17 shr are not yet implemented except dialer and basic pm control |
| 20:27.27 | dcordes | http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1620 seems like morphis got "nexus s" |
| 20:27.43 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: awesome. is it fast ? |
| 20:28.13 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: I was playing around with qt4 on hd2 from the (well known :) )ubuntu interface.. |
| 20:28.18 | dcordes | it seemed very smooth |
| 20:28.21 | dcordes | ultra fast rendering |
| 20:28.56 | dcordes | can't find the image |
| 20:29.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: well, given that i was running it on sgs2, it was fast. i mean, even e17 with fbdev is fast there. but i think it is several times faster than e17 |
| 20:29.42 | dcordes | cool |
| 20:29.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: i'm waiting for fosdem's release of mali reverse-engineered driver. maybe i'll try the binary one with meego, though |
| 20:30.02 | dcordes | mali ? |
| 20:30.14 | dcordes | something sgs2 ? |
| 20:30.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: mali400 is the GPU used in samsung exynos and some other SoCs (like, chinese tcc89xx) |
| 20:31.37 | dcordes | cool. will that (revers-engineered or binary) allow qt4 acceleration ? |
| 20:32.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: that will allow opengl es 2.0. but there is already an opensource DRM (in kernel) and X11 driver for 2d on exynos |
| 20:44.48 | dcordes | awesome that exynos |
| 20:45.37 | dcordes | actually w/o video accel you will never get to fully enjoy any of these devices |
| 20:45.56 | dcordes | if aim is to compete with stock distro |
| 20:46.00 | dcordes | in usability |
| 20:47.59 | Cotulla | ? |
| 20:52.10 | dcordes | Cotulla: only fb sucks |
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| 21:37.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | iwc |
| 21:37.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | oops |
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| 21:43.20 | Entropy512 | <arrrghhh> detule, i swear someone said they took our GPS stuff and extended it. |
| 21:43.20 | Entropy512 | <arrrghhh> i think it was someone smart too, like emwe or Entropy512 |
| 21:43.25 | Entropy512 | Not I, I just made a small fix |
| 21:43.42 | Entropy512 | somewhere, on another device (HD2?), someone did put some pretty nice extensions onto the GPS code |
| 21:43.47 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 21:43.58 | arrrghhh | but i thought you were the one that said they worked off our base |
| 21:44.07 | arrrghhh | that's what i meant by that confusing statement :P |
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