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| 11:42.48 | HammerTux | hello is anybody can teach me about haret.exe |
| 11:43.11 | phh | what do you want to know about it ? |
| 11:47.34 | HammerTux | i want to know now to edit startup.txt |
| 11:47.54 | phh | ? |
| 11:47.56 | phh | with a file editor ? :D |
| 11:48.02 | HammerTux | wht no should mtype be |
| 11:48.20 | phh | the mtype of your device |
| 11:48.37 | HammerTux | how to get the mtype |
| 11:49.18 | HammerTux | my device is SE faith |
| 11:50.05 | phh | you've got a kernel for it ... ? |
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| 11:51.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | you can just disable all boards except one in kernel and any mtype will work |
| 11:51.51 | HammerTux | is it zimage.ext ? |
| 11:52.05 | HammerTux | i m very beginner |
| 11:52.32 | HammerTux | i read a lot but still dont really understand |
| 11:54.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | look, if there is a port for your device already, just use it. if there is none, keep in mind that in 99% the kernel for other device will not even boot despite having the same cpu. in that case, you'll have to learn to compile kernel from sources and disable everything except framebuffer driver |
| 11:54.21 | zeusk | mtype is like an identification number which tells linux what board files to use, every board has a unique id and is fixed. |
| 11:54.50 | zeusk | Do what alex says. |
| 11:55.14 | HammerTux | no port for SE faith yet.. im using Topaz |
| 11:59.28 | HammerTux | looks like i have to begin from start again |
| 12:14.35 | HammerTux | is there any available tutorial to learn compile the kernel. wht basic do i need for beginner |
| 12:17.51 | Cotulla | what is main idea to have unique id? |
| 12:18.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:19.50 | Cotulla | u can do it via other ways I believe |
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| 12:25.52 | zeusk | but what is the benefit of supporting multiple boards with the same cpu (atleast in embedded space where space is crucial) ? |
| 12:26.33 | phh | space .. crucial ? |
| 12:26.44 | phh | supporting another board is max 100kB |
| 12:26.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | for example, take a look at XDANDROID that uses unified kernel for all devices. and generally with over 300mb ram, size is not crucial |
| 12:27.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | besides, in linux, you can save space by using __initdata attributes |
| 12:27.52 | zeusk | but most of the linux boards are not like htc and samsung phones with gb of storage and so much ram. |
| 12:27.57 | zeusk | hmm |
| 12:30.18 | Cotulla | maybe |
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| 12:30.26 | Cotulla | but they could detect dev type inside board init |
| 12:30.28 | Cotulla | and use it later |
| 12:31.00 | Cotulla | I ran same binary CE kernel on 3 different phones and 2 different CPUs :P |
| 12:31.55 | Cotulla | but maybe it's not bad feature, but sometimes irritate ofcourse |
| 12:32.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: you cannot always detect board from code if some gpios or registers are not use for storing the ID. But on the other hand, bootloader is flashed once and you can just hardcode it there and then use the same image for multiple devices (that's what we've been doing with tf101 and a500 ;) |
| 12:32.18 | Cotulla | yes |
| 12:32.18 | zeusk | but with so many boards, very hard to detect or differentiate boards when bootloader can pass just a few chars to ease it so much. |
| 12:32.25 | Cotulla | it's question of hardware already |
| 12:32.36 | Cotulla | linux somehow wants to run on all |
| 12:32.50 | zeusk | it wants to take over the world. |
| 12:32.55 | Cotulla | is it possible to mix ARMv5 & ARMv7 inside kernel? |
| 12:33.43 | Cotulla | but the problem that real people usually are working on 1-2 boards at the same time. they have not target to run it on any arm board |
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| 12:33.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: i think there were efforts to do that, but probably no one did it because anything below armv7 is irrelevant |
| 12:34.14 | Cotulla | lol wh0t? |
| 12:34.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | in fact, having support for multiple boards is really useful for tablet pcs and netbooks and mostly useless for others |
| 12:34.41 | Cotulla | maybe |
| 12:35.18 | Cotulla | how is ur tablet btw? |
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| 12:35.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | but you can disable the boards you do not need and it won't waste precious memory, so why complain? |
| 12:35.48 | zeusk | ^^ that is what i said some time ago. |
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| 13:17.35 | Cotulla | precious cool |
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| 13:20.38 | zeusk | o.o what is precious cool ? |
| 13:22.54 | Cotulla | DM sound |
| 13:23.27 | zeusk | lol, im playing pokemon in gb emulator on leo. |
| 13:23.36 | zeusk | it is so better than original gba crap |
| 13:23.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | DM FTMFW |
| 13:24.19 | zeusk | uhm, what is DM ? |
| 13:24.24 | Cotulla | lol |
| 13:24.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk: Depeche Mode of course |
| 13:24.55 | Cotulla | ya |
| 13:25.18 | Cotulla | do u like anything from it, Alexx? |
| 13:26.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: almost everything |
| 13:26.38 | Cotulla | ;) |
| 13:27.05 | Cotulla | I prefer an early albums, they are more powerful and energy ;) |
| 13:27.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | my favorite song is probably Strangelove |
| 13:27.23 | Cotulla | haha yeah |
| 13:27.45 | Cotulla | I like it too very |
| 13:27.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | especially the "I give in to sin" part. |
| 13:28.27 | Cotulla | do u prefer USA or UK version? |
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| 13:29.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | the one from 87 Music for the masses |
| 13:30.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | the UK version that is |
| 13:30.17 | Cotulla | UK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYeH2LeFOhk USA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs1xpKv2xdI&feature=related |
| 13:30.29 | Cotulla | yeah I like more UK too |
| 13:31.03 | Cotulla | what about "Black Celebration"? ;) |
| 13:31.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | wait.. either my music library is messed up or what but i have the USA version in the 1987 album. I like that intro sound more |
| 13:31.44 | Cotulla | hm |
| 13:39.07 | Cotulla | what "timer pop" means? |
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