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| 02:53.07 | phh | (and i'm not the only one who wrote in that file -_-') |
| 02:54.35 | jonpry | nothing can stop tiad8 |
| 02:54.53 | jonpry | you hear about the great touchpad touchscreen controller fiasco? |
| 02:54.58 | d3tul3 | i was under the impression gps is already working in gb, or no? |
| 02:55.27 | d3tul3 | hey jonpry you ended using gaussian fit in that or no? |
| 02:55.49 | phh | jonpry: not at all |
| 02:55.59 | phh | ah, hp touchpad ? |
| 02:56.01 | jonpry | well i have a binary using the gaussian fit. but apparently there is some bug that screws with the onscreen keyboard |
| 02:56.08 | jonpry | phh: yeah hp touchpad |
| 02:56.25 | phh | yeah well, i don't know much about it, but that there was a big mess |
| 02:57.13 | jonpry | yeah i reversed all kinds of stuff and finally figured out. then they found my code on pastebin and start going on about how copyright doesn't apply if you "find it" |
| 02:58.01 | jonpry | not that it really matters |
| 02:58.25 | phh | OO |
| 03:02.12 | phh | hence the use of gitorious & friends ? :D |
| 03:02.22 | phh | (ok for a simple PoC that's useless) |
| 03:04.01 | jonpry | well i didn't think they would find it. but it was the behavior post finding it that was the most obnoxious. like they knew i had figured it out before they found the code. so it should have been obvious what had happened |
| 03:07.17 | phh | WisTilt2: just wondering out loud, would you hire me in your company for a 6-months internship on such works ? (that's purely theorical, i doubt i'd go abroad) |
| 03:07.48 | phh | jonpry: well, if it's a "they" against a "he" perhaps they expected to "win" ? |
| 03:07.55 | phh | (whatever there is to win ...) |
| 03:08.45 | phh | jonpry: but they said it was their own work, or they didn't dare ? |
| 03:09.23 | jonpry | at first. then they had some stupid story about how they were the first to make the pastebin code work |
| 03:09.35 | jonpry | as if it didn't when it got posted :p |
| 03:10.01 | phh | lol |
| 03:11.52 | jonpry | everybody is so quick to report and then totally refuses to redact anymore. like they got in engadget and wired |
| 03:12.34 | phh | you think that's new ? |
| 03:12.50 | jonpry | guess not |
| 03:12.56 | phh | we had some such problems at diamond's "era" |
| 03:13.35 | jonpry | thats before my time |
| 03:14.09 | phh | boards were totally separated, i was working on wifi on diamond, one guy on blackstone copy/pasted my changes to blackstone, saying he was working heavily on wifi for black |
| 03:14.42 | phh | best (it's a matter of point of view.) thing was that some of those patches were actually regressions |
| 03:15.28 | phh | of course, it came with donation stuff |
| 03:15.48 | jonpry | yeah donations |
| 03:16.40 | jonpry | my touchpad team refuses to take donations. which is ok. i think its a little overboard myself. but what really happens is that cyanogen just gets it all |
| 03:17.07 | phh | well it depends on how much we're talking about ... |
| 03:17.18 | jonpry | unknown but i think thousands |
| 03:17.34 | WisTilt2 | phh: internship to do what? i dont follow |
| 03:18.35 | phh | jonpry: hum that sounds big, overall on xdandroid & friends + a bit of acer liquid i got ~ 400$ |
| 03:18.43 | phh | WisTilt2: playing with rhod :D |
| 03:19.11 | WisTilt2 | ? you want to work here on rhod? now im really lost:) |
| 03:19.25 | jonpry | there are like 11k touchpad users, and there was this "incident" with a video |
| 03:19.37 | jonpry | which is basically viral. got like 100k views in 3 days |
| 03:21.21 | phh | WisTilt2: i said theorical, i basically just want to know your opinion on me |
| 03:21.29 | phh | (i know that sounds weird.) |
| 03:21.29 | d3tul3 | plus all the touchpad users felt like they got bucks to spend after the ridiculus deal they got |
| 03:21.43 | jonpry | he probably doesn't know about your wireless education or whatever it is |
| 03:22.24 | WisTilt2 | i dont know you that well even though ive worked a lot with you on this stuff over past couple years so hard to know. |
| 03:22.47 | arrrghhh | jonpry, you can feel free to fund my server with more RAM. i won't complain :D |
| 03:22.53 | phh | well that's part of the question, are carriers interested in more global knowledge or specific is enough ? |
| 03:23.00 | phh | ok that was a stupid question |
| 03:24.57 | WisTilt2 | dont know about the big carriers but we look for specific knowledge in a given area, wireless on the rf side, hardware level, etc. dont want anyone that knows everything because they usually dont:) |
| 03:25.05 | arrrghhh | jonpry, had any issues? i honestly haven't noticed you hammering the server. doesn't bother me one bit. |
| 03:25.30 | jonpry | nah its been working great |
| 03:25.47 | jonpry | i figure its thrashing though |
| 03:25.58 | arrrghhh | nope |
| 03:26.12 | arrrghhh | i know that rig is low on RAM tho |
| 03:26.30 | arrrghhh | most of the things I do don't require a lot of RAM, so I never really put much into it. i think it has 3gb.. |
| 03:26.41 | jonpry | htop says 4 |
| 03:26.45 | arrrghhh | oO |
| 03:26.50 | arrrghhh | i'd believe it over me. |
| 03:26.57 | jonpry | heh |
| 03:27.51 | phh | don't worry, that's just ramdoubler ! :D |
| 03:27.56 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 03:35.32 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: ive determined that idle collapse is no good, idle suspend is what we want. i found a sweet spot for idle suspend in the 10ms range, which is where i get this 28ma drain. tried a wide range on idle collapse and unless it's 50ms or longer it only saves around 15% instead of over 70% with idle suspend. taking too long to collapse and fire back up to gain much i guess. |
| 03:36.36 | jonpry | seems strange |
| 03:36.46 | jonpry | we can't hit 28ma with sleep suspend |
| 03:36.52 | jonpry | w/ screen off |
| 03:37.08 | WisTilt2 | ? in sleep im at 18ma |
| 03:37.28 | WisTilt2 | actually lower now but havent measured since change last night |
| 03:37.41 | jonpry | sleep collapse vs sleep suspend |
| 03:38.41 | WisTilt2 | dont know what it is in sleep suspend, i never run that mode. |
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| 04:22.05 | arrrghhh | i can't say there would be a 'right channel' for that thetodfather_ |
| 04:22.08 | arrrghhh | #android? |
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| 16:39.53 | Cotulla | hey |
| 16:41.07 | arrrghhh | Cotulla, how goes it |
| 16:42.01 | Cotulla | cold & snow :( |
| 16:42.55 | arrrghhh | it's warm & sunny here :D |
| 16:43.07 | arrrghhh | going to be 60+ on thanksgiving too, wacky. |
| 16:43.23 | arrrghhh | ~15.5 C |
| 16:44.05 | emwe | arrrghhh: thanksgiving? hasn't that already happened? |
| 16:44.54 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 16:44.55 | arrrghhh | not yet |
| 16:45.03 | arrrghhh | thursday |
| 16:45.44 | emwe | ah, it differs to canada and europe quite a bit. |
| 16:46.36 | arrrghhh | you guys have thanksgiving as well? |
| 16:46.46 | arrrghhh | i thought it was just us, to celebrate stealing this land from the natives. |
| 16:47.12 | emwe | Erntedankfest |
| 16:47.29 | emwe | and ... you modded it to your likings. |
| 16:48.07 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 16:48.16 | Cotulla | b l a c k c e l e b r a t i o n |
| 16:48.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | s p a c e s a r e c o o l |
| 16:49.06 | arrrghhh | damnnit it's all in german |
| 16:49.10 | emwe | btw Cotulla where does your habit come from abbreviating all stuff wrong?! it's DM not DPM for Depeche Mode :P |
| 16:49.45 | Cotulla | DM - DataMover :'( |
| 16:49.59 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 16:50.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: he doesn't want capitalist spies to decypher the data |
| 16:50.01 | emwe | DMOV not DM |
| 16:50.26 | Cotulla | okay, I just called folder with "DM" as "DPM " long time ago |
| 16:50.27 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: now they know. :) |
| 16:50.39 | Cotulla | it was main reason |
| 16:50.53 | Cotulla | the second reason maybe because DPM fits into 32 bits |
| 16:51.00 | Cotulla | with zero at the end . . . |
| 16:51.05 | Cotulla | :D |
| 16:51.43 | Cotulla | inprecise data abort |
| 16:51.49 | Cotulla | s u c k s |
| 16:52.07 | phh | oh yeah. |
| 16:52.14 | Cotulla | phh? |
| 16:53.06 | phh | imprecise data abort |
| 16:53.20 | phh | hopefully i ever got only one |
| 16:53.37 | Cotulla | I got |
| 16:54.52 | arrrghhh | emwe, ok, so we kinda did steal it from you. but at least we kinda made it our own :P |
| 16:55.13 | phh | emwe: thanksgiving in europe ? wat ? |
| 16:55.31 | arrrghhh | Erntedankfest |
| 16:55.33 | emwe | phh: nah. |
| 16:55.39 | arrrghhh | basically the end of harvest season |
| 16:55.46 | arrrghhh | beginning of october, not really related. |
| 16:55.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | looks like i need to steal lsensor from acl |
| 16:55.58 | phh | you mean oktoberfest ? :D |
| 16:56.00 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], you should |
| 16:56.19 | arrrghhh | phh, not quite. they usually occur around the same time AFAIK |
| 16:56.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | i bet he'll be surprised when he wakes up and light sensor is gone |
| 16:56.37 | Cotulla | harvest. unit ready |
| 16:56.38 | arrrghhh | lol |
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| 17:15.19 | WisTilt2 | jonpry you awake? |
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| 17:19.25 | arrrghhh | he was earlier, i swear. |
| 17:19.27 | arrrghhh | how goes it WisTilt2 |
| 17:19.31 | arrrghhh | and bzo - what's up? |
| 17:19.40 | WisTilt2 | bzo is actually the guy i need to ask this |
| 17:19.43 | WisTilt2 | hi arrrghhh |
| 17:19.51 | bzo | hi all |
| 17:19.56 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 17:20.24 | jonpry | hi WisTilt2 |
| 17:20.35 | WisTilt2 | bzo dont know if you did anything further with this jpegtask but i see what the problem is, just dont know why |
| 17:21.41 | WisTilt2 | looks like every time you take a pic it re-adds adsp pmem so the 2nd time you do it it comes up with a different addy that overlaps and thinks it isnt still already loaded |
| 17:21.47 | WisTilt2 | hi jonpry |
| 17:22.04 | bzo | nah, haven't looked at it lately |
| 17:22.11 | bzo | but usually it fails the first time for me in any case |
| 17:22.41 | bzo | I did notice CA had much newer pmem code |
| 17:22.45 | WisTilt2 | i can get it to take pic 1st time everytime, fails every time after until reboot. |
| 17:23.34 | WisTilt2 | something wrong with the pmem_regions afaict |
| 17:23.37 | fakker | slaps Cotulla |
| 17:24.09 | WisTilt2 | CA pmem code for adsp_driver or just pmem.c? |
| 17:24.17 | bzo | pmem.c |
| 17:24.49 | bzo | doesn't seem to drop right in unfortunately, other stuff will need to be tweaked |
| 17:25.08 | WisTilt2 | couldn't be easy of course |
| 17:25.35 | jonpry | some of that new stuff uses a different api that our userspace doesn't |
| 17:25.45 | WisTilt2 | you plan to mess with it? if not, i can work on it today, got nothing else pressing around here at this time |
| 17:25.58 | Cotulla | touch fakker via chkstk() to be sure full fakker loaded |
| 17:26.11 | fakker | privet |
| 17:26.11 | arrrghhh | hey no touchie |
| 17:26.35 | Cotulla | why? |
| 17:26.36 | fakker | there's plenty of me to go around |
| 17:26.41 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 17:26.51 | bzo | any of you guys using the newest gsensor enabled gb emwe sent out? |
| 17:27.13 | mgross029 | bzo, I am on 35 |
| 17:27.35 | bzo | I've been getting huge power drain lately |
| 17:27.51 | bzo | haven't completely isolated what it is, but it feels like it could be the use of the sensor on 39 |
| 17:28.01 | bzo | and 3.0 for that matter |
| 17:28.54 | mgross029 | I've noticed some extra power drain but nothing huge |
| 17:29.43 | bzo | used to only drain about 20% overnight, but now fully drains before that |
| 17:31.04 | mgross029 | I'm always plugging mine in for some reason or aother. (usually troubleshooting) So mine does drain but I can't be certain how much |
| 17:31.33 | mgross029 | IIRC I had some drain prior to the gsensor being enabled as well. |
| 17:31.51 | arrrghhh | yea, i used to do drain tests overnight |
| 17:32.04 | arrrghhh | seem to be the most consistent way to test, as i'm not fiddling with it while sleeping |
| 17:32.06 | arrrghhh | sleep hacking |
| 17:33.11 | mgross029 | That you know of. :p |
| 17:33.25 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 17:33.48 | emwe | bzo: 20% only? i got 40$. |
| 17:33.51 | emwe | 40% |
| 17:34.04 | emwe | always. but this is with bt on and sync. |
| 17:34.13 | emwe | but hasn't changed with bt on or off iirc. |
| 17:38.07 | bzo | emwe I forget, you have a rhod400/500? |
| 17:38.15 | emwe | RHOD400 in gsm mode |
| 17:38.49 | bzo | perhaps there is some inefficiency in using a cdma optimized phone in gsm? |
| 17:39.13 | bzo | or maybe we are not turning off the cdma radio? |
| 17:40.05 | emwe | you got more details on that? i don't ;) |
| 17:40.19 | bzo | just speculation |
| 17:40.41 | arrrghhh | yea, i don't think there's been much experimentation on a CDMA RHOD running in GSM mode |
| 17:40.51 | arrrghhh | there's a few that do it, but they usually have a big language barrier :P |
| 17:41.12 | bzo | I have been thinking about switching to tmobile |
| 17:42.03 | bzo | but that would entail figuring out how to sim unlock the rhod, blech |
| 17:42.06 | arrrghhh | phone already SIM unlocked? |
| 17:42.08 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 17:42.37 | mgross029 | emwe, you didn't totally enable wifi on 35 correct? Just getting some pieces ready on your last commit? |
| 17:42.41 | bzo | it's sim unlocked only for non-US |
| 17:43.35 | emwe | mgross029: right, was looking for working wifi for TOPA first. only have one SIM, need data on TOPA as well... |
| 17:44.16 | mgross029 | ok. Thanks. That's what I thought. Just checking |
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| 17:48.01 | jonpry | i think only the 500 supports us bands |
| 17:50.53 | phh | jonpry: for mouse thingy, i took a quick look, and it doesn't seem as obvious as i first thought |
| 17:51.23 | phh | (see ./frameworks/base/services/input/EventHub.cpp 's detection, it should raise the proper flags for tssc-manager) |
| 17:51.53 | jonpry | somehow i think its a build problem |
| 17:52.03 | phh | i agree that's likely |
| 17:52.09 | phh | even if really weird |
| 17:52.30 | phh | in EventHub.cpp there are debug messages available |
| 17:52.32 | phh | but need to rebuild |
| 17:52.43 | jonpry | i started with a config for pandaboard where trackpad behavior could make sense |
| 17:52.58 | jonpry | although i think mouse behavior would be better |
| 17:53.12 | phh | trackpad and mouse behaviours are different ? oO |
| 17:53.54 | jonpry | yeah if the coordinates jump by large distance, it pretends the last point and new point are equal |
| 17:54.03 | jonpry | so like you can scroll with multiple swipes |
| 17:56.37 | bzo | jonpry, the 400 and 500 are virtually identical, just different firmware |
| 17:57.06 | arrrghhh | yea i wasn't aware of the 400/500 having any difference in the bands it supports |
| 17:57.12 | jonpry | isn't one quadband and the other triband gsm? |
| 17:57.17 | arrrghhh | just that the SIM slot will only accept SIMs from other countries OOB |
| 17:57.44 | bzo | yep, whereas the 500/verizon is sim locked completely |
| 17:57.50 | arrrghhh | orly |
| 17:57.52 | arrrghhh | i didn't know that |
| 17:58.05 | arrrghhh | you can SIM unlock either device tho, yes? |
| 17:58.13 | bzo | but it is easy to get the unlock code from verizon if you are a customer |
| 17:58.29 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 17:58.35 | bzo | you have to pay cmonex/olipro to get the 400 unlocked |
| 17:58.53 | jonpry | yeah i got that for my 210 |
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| 17:59.09 | jonpry | supposedly they will give us hard working devs a free unlock |
| 17:59.17 | arrrghhh | bzo, i thought if you were "an active member in the community" they'd give it to ya. |
| 17:59.21 | jonpry | but it took them almost 6 months to respond to my request |
| 17:59.25 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 17:59.43 | bzo | I'm not active in xda/ppc |
| 17:59.59 | arrrghhh | yea, i'm not sure what that means exactly |
| 18:00.02 | arrrghhh | dev or postwhore |
| 18:00.39 | jonpry | me neither. but i just explained i just work on irc. they did give me the free thing although i had already paid for it |
| 18:00.52 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 18:00.54 | phh | or your name on half of the first posts of the forum ? :D |
| 18:01.31 | phh | i think most people are in mentioned in most "ROMs" publication |
| 18:02.19 | phh | most people here are* |
| 18:03.03 | bzo | they should just give it away seeing as it seems like they can't be bothered to respond to paid unlockers either judging by forum posts |
| 18:03.25 | arrrghhh | yea there's been a few pissed off people |
| 18:03.36 | arrrghhh | i guess when it was a device lauded after by business folk it made sense |
| 18:03.44 | arrrghhh | now... it's just kids that are getting them as hand-me-down's lol |
| 18:05.11 | jonpry | i wonder how they do it anyways. hardspl has to be most of it, and probably the chinese radio |
| 18:05.47 | jonpry | Cotulla would know |
| 18:05.57 | bzo | there is a secret code to security unlock that they figure out the algorithm for |
| 18:06.16 | jonpry | and that makes it run unsigned radio? |
| 18:06.24 | bzo | yep |
| 18:06.35 | jonpry | and then they patched the radio for sim unlock? |
| 18:06.44 | bzo | exactly |
| 18:06.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | you can do a binary diff between the patched and unpatched stuff |
| 18:07.04 | jonpry | can't we hot patch the radio? |
| 18:07.11 | jonpry | w/o security unlock? |
| 18:07.13 | bzo | they have this elaborate visual basic program that calls a web server to get the code |
| 18:07.42 | bzo | Alex[sp3dev]: code is based off phone ID |
| 18:08.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | i think if you disable mpu, you can patch it. i'd suppose they first patch original radio protection checking and upload custom radio with custom rsa cert |
| 18:08.01 | arrrghhh | elaborate visual basic program seems like an oxymoron. |
| 18:08.23 | bzo | yeah, but their method is simpler |
| 18:08.37 | bzo | once you unlock, you can flash unsigned radios whenever you want |
| 18:08.47 | jonpry | did Cotulla need sec unlock for mag ldr? |
| 18:09.06 | Cotulla | w00t? |
| 18:09.54 | bzo | Cotulla: u know how to generate security unlock code on rhod? |
| 18:09.59 | Cotulla | no |
| 18:10.25 | bzo | I think cmonex disassembled radio to reverse algo |
| 18:10.33 | Cotulla | and there no such code . . . u means sim unlock maybe |
| 18:10.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | isn't security lock just one bit somewhere in the protected area? |
| 18:11.11 | jonpry | think its in fuses, there is also a hardware pin |
| 18:11.13 | bzo | Cotulla: there is a code that security unlocks radio |
| 18:11.31 | Cotulla | and? |
| 18:12.06 | Cotulla | I never heard about such code, only about sim unlock code |
| 18:12.24 | bzo | well, this is for cdma rhod |
| 18:12.43 | bzo | the method to sim unlock it is to security unlock radio and flash a patched radio |
| 18:15.26 | jonpry | all of that is way too dangerous without jtag |
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| 18:17.37 | jonpry | cotulla already has the stuffs to boot a totally incorrect radio |
| 18:20.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: want to replicate that? |
| 18:20.46 | bzo | then you can move scbs to a9 |
| 18:21.03 | Cotulla | I even runs CE on mARM :P |
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| 18:21.32 | phh | i forgot how crazy this place is. |
| 18:21.47 | Cotulla | how is ur M3? |
| 18:22.20 | phh | i haven't touched it for a week, exams :( |
| 18:22.28 | Cotulla | :( |
| 18:24.34 | arrrghhh | meanwhile, in russia - http://www.lahnjules.com/birdsinging-little-girls-duet-with-beatbox-champion/ |
| 18:25.54 | Cotulla | OMG |
| 18:26.14 | Cotulla | AND I LIVE WITH THIS PEOPLE NEAR |
| 18:26.17 | Cotulla | lol :D |
| 18:26.53 | jonpry | yeah i want to run wrong code on a9 |
| 18:26.59 | jonpry | more power! |
| 18:27.20 | jonpry | then onto qdsp. as graphics coprocessor |
| 18:27.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | so you'll join the lk poop party? |
| 18:27.38 | arrrghhh | jonpry doesn't like poop parties |
| 18:27.48 | Cotulla | lol |
| 18:27.49 | arrrghhh | it makes me sad, but c'est la vie. |
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| 18:28.14 | phh | i hate french expressions in english :( |
| 18:28.33 | bzo | jonpry you can harness the awesome power of the a9 and make the rhods a true dual core |
| 18:29.19 | jonpry | Alex[sp3dev] WisTilt2 has uboot now |
| 18:29.53 | jonpry | i'm guessing the a9 is pretty busy |
| 18:30.39 | jonpry | take over qdsp4 to implement LTE |
| 18:30.40 | arrrghhh | phh, well that works because most people hate the french in general :D |
| 18:30.50 | bzo | yeah, given that the a9 emulates another OS entirely |
| 18:31.23 | Cotulla | "c'est la vie." so means nothing? :) |
| 18:31.34 | phh | arrrghhh: yeah i noticed, french words in tv shows are hum... really funny ... but that's the only moment i need subtitles |
| 18:31.35 | arrrghhh | Cotulla, such is life basically |
| 18:31.39 | Cotulla | de tela la mano! |
| 18:31.53 | Cotulla | looks like french? ;) |
| 18:32.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | not at all |
| 18:32.09 | arrrghhh | looks like spanish |
| 18:32.13 | helicopter88 | more like italian |
| 18:32.21 | arrrghhh | same thing |
| 18:32.26 | helicopter88 | but in italian doesn't make sense |
| 18:32.28 | Cotulla | lol |
| 18:32.31 | helicopter88 | neither in spanish |
| 18:32.35 | arrrghhh | fabric hand? |
| 18:32.37 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 18:32.44 | Cotulla | lol |
| 18:32.50 | Cotulla | but google translate can translate it |
| 18:32.54 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.57 | helicopter88 | and means? |
| 18:33.00 | arrrghhh | ^^ |
| 18:33.20 | Cotulla | tela of the mano |
| 18:33.26 | Cotulla | lol |
| 18:33.39 | helicopter88 | tela in italian is the thing where painter paints.. |
| 18:33.41 | arrrghhh | ... |
| 18:33.50 | Cotulla | it was names, arrrghhh |
| 18:34.14 | arrrghhh | mmmmhmmmm |
| 18:34.30 | Cotulla | but "fabric hand" good |
| 18:34.48 | arrrghhh | you like it |
| 18:35.04 | Cotulla | looks goud |
| 18:40.08 | jonpry | anyone else lost? |
| 18:41.20 | Cotulla | lock |
| 18:41.25 | Cotulla | jonn lock |
| 18:41.43 | Cotulla | my name is John Lock |
| 18:41.57 | jonpry | don't you see? |
| 18:42.02 | Cotulla | no |
| 18:42.19 | Cotulla | are u on island? |
| 18:42.33 | jonpry | i am |
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