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07:13.35zeusany1 ?
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11:38.53zeusgod sends zeus to irc
11:39.15zeuswhat is up here ?
11:40.09Cotullawe are waiting zeus && afrodita ^^
11:40.32zeussup cotulla
11:40.39Cotullahi
11:40.44zeusbtw codeaurora gave you hexagon kernel ?
11:40.46zeushello
11:41.12CotullaI wrote them, they never answer to emails ;)
11:41.24zeuslol
11:41.37zeusi saw your thread there in the lonely forums
11:41.49Cotullayeah :) other forums got just a spam
11:42.16zeushas apt killed everyone else around here ?
11:42.25Cotullabut it was expected
11:42.40Cotullalast time I killed him
11:43.08zeusit is so lonely here compared to last time i was here.
11:43.23Cotullabecause he looks to stupid around this array of brains
11:43.37Cotullayeah
11:43.38zeushahahaha.
11:43.44Cotullawhen u was last time here?
11:43.59zeusback in november '10
11:44.16zeuslet's just say i crashed my plane
11:44.16Cotulla2010?
11:44.20zeusyeah
11:44.20zeuslol
11:44.26Cotullaha
11:44.30Cotullalong time ago
11:44.48zeusyeah, soo much progress :o
11:45.06zeus3 bootloaders for NAND, lol back then we din't have even a single one.
11:45.26Cotulla3?
11:45.37zeusmag, clk and some hboot in forums
11:45.49Cotullais last working?
11:46.06zeusyeah, but it is based on lk, so meh.
11:46.18Cotullahehe
11:46.21zeuslol, i heard even htc's hboot is derived from lk
11:46.32Cotullait's not
11:46.44zeusthen ? legacy loader from google ?
11:46.51Cotullasomething own
11:47.09Cotullabut some base was there I think
11:47.11zeuswow, that was not expected from the idiots sitting at htc :p
11:47.40zeusso howz your magldr going, no release long time, something new coming ?
11:47.48Cotullau are wrong. . . ;)  google's implementation code is rather crappy.
11:48.11zeusgod, there are so many mobile linux os right now and each says its the best
11:48.20Cotullayeah
11:48.25Cotullamy choose is WP7 :)
11:48.31Cotullayes, I am working under new MAGLDR implementation
11:48.56zeuswow, xbox made updatable rom for leo
11:49.33zeusGod, i'll put my leo in some museum before death lol
11:49.47Cotulla:P
11:49.53Cotullaleo rulezz
11:50.08zeusyeah, thanks to you guys
11:50.35zeusi was thinking of getting in development myself, any guide for like "leo hardware for dummies" ?
11:50.52Cotulladoubt any device soon will have such community / geekery ability :D
11:51.48zeusyeah, btw you know chinese ?? :s
11:51.54zeusmandarin i meant
11:51.57Cotullano
11:52.02CotullaI don't know ;)
11:52.18zeuswho do you use dft forums then lol ? i use google translate and it signs me out :|
11:52.24zeus*how
11:53.21CotullaI am generally developing and post on XDA ;)
11:53.22zeushave you fixed tetris in your new mag ?
11:53.45Cotullawhat's was wrong
11:53.45Cotulla?
11:53.51CotullaI can play long time to it
11:53.51zeuskey response in magldr is very bad for some reason
11:53.52Cotulla:D
11:53.56zeusand some text overlap
11:53.56Cotullaoh
11:54.00Cotullayeah
11:54.05CotullaI implemented new keys system
11:54.08Cotullashould be better now
11:54.12zeuslol, thanks
11:54.15zeusand btw
11:54.22zeusthat reach "11111" score
11:54.26Cotulla:D
11:54.26zeuswhat was the hidden feature ?
11:54.35zeusany1 unlocked it till now ?
11:55.10Cotullathere was pseudographic picture :D  but I removed it in the next version.
11:55.30Cotullano, noone able to unlock, including me, because battery "go on"
11:55.33Cotulla:D :D
11:55.37zeusoh !
11:55.42zeusLOL
11:55.43zeusyeah
11:55.44Cotullau should consider it like a joke
11:55.53Cotulla:d
11:55.55Cotulla:D
11:56.00zeusbtw, can you charge battery in magldr ?
11:56.16zeusi mean while magldr is processing, you implemented charging in it ?
11:56.43Cotullayeah
11:56.49Cotullabut old version was like DOS
11:57.00Cotullasingle threaded
11:57.06zeus1st release used to make me mad in the hospital, opening leo case with my broken thum -> ARGHHH !! then i threw my battery cover somewhere lol
11:57.17zeusoh
11:57.38zeusthen why don't you base mag on lk ? it has multithread feature :p
11:58.41Cotullayes, but I didn't want. wanted to develop own things . . .
11:58.50Cotullanow I moved to RTOS
11:59.02Cotullato get more fun :)
11:59.08zeusoh, sorry for my failure, but what is rtos ?
11:59.25CotullaRealTime Operating System
11:59.44zeusyou made one yourself ?
11:59.44zeuswow
11:59.46zeusnice
12:00.27CotullaI also developed other version which had CE inside , but it was not effective, so I abandon it :)
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12:00.54zeusLOL
12:01.12zeushow is wp7.5 on leo ? you tried ?
12:01.40Cotullayeah
12:02.00zeuswhat do you suggest i should do to my leo ? go with wp7.5 ? install some sense 3/3.5 on nand ? dualboot ? so many options
12:02.02zeus:O
12:02.17Cotullait's question of ur personal opinion. I like WP7 more, because it'
12:02.26Cotullait's more fast, has better design
12:02.36zeusyeah, and no ugly banding :p
12:02.40Cotullamore "peaceful"
12:02.56zeusmiui is so ugly on leo, lol
12:02.59Cotullawhen I open android main menu
12:03.23CotullaI need search right icon rather long, because all they have different colors and etc. eyes just about to blow up in such ...
12:03.38zeushahahaha
12:03.51zeusbut everything is so costly on wp 7.5
12:03.56zeusthey cost for everything
12:04.02Cotulla?
12:04.06zeusapps
12:04.10Cotullayeah
12:04.15zeusmarketplace also not there worldwide
12:04.24Cotullaofcouse  WP not ideal, there a lot of stuffs missing
12:04.31Cotullabut I like basic ideas
12:04.33zeusso you dualboot ?
12:04.38Cotullano
12:04.41zeusyeah, metro ui is good
12:04.53zeusyou tried the windows 8 build ?
12:05.11Cotullano, I am too lazy and have not much time for that ;)
12:05.34Cotullajust tell u hobby developing needs a lot of time . . .
12:05.35zeuslol, btw tell me what is that laptop you are using here : http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/WP7S/IMAG0202.jpg i thought its a macbook pro but then saw that volume sign :p
12:05.56Cotullaso I prefer to develop MAGLDR or etc instead of installing some W8 beta :P
12:06.14Cotullait's Lenova
12:06.16Cotulla:P
12:06.30Cotullaepic picture
12:06.32Cotullayeah
12:06.39zeuso_O how you develop magldr ? won't it wipe your wp7.5 ? thats a bad part of mag flashing it erases everything :/
12:06.50zeusyeah lol, it made me confused for atleast ~2 months
12:07.11Cotullaactually I tell u truth
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12:07.27zeusyeah ?
12:07.35Cotulladeveloping often means that u can't use this device for regular life :(
12:07.42Cotullaseriously developing
12:07.54Cotullabecause u need take a call. . . and bahhh ur kernel die :D
12:08.15Cotullapeople on the other side usually even don't know word "kernel" lol :D
12:08.25zeuslol
12:08.45zeusdon;t you still have a kaiser :p
12:08.50zeusor magician ?? :p
12:09.01Cotullayeah I have some devices
12:09.09Cotullaso I am developing for one and using other IRL
12:09.19zeuswhat is irl ? :o
12:09.28Cotullain real life
12:09.29Cotullafor calls
12:09.31zeusinternet relay ...
12:09.31Cotullainternet
12:09.33zeusoh
12:09.34zeuslol
12:09.36Cotullain the trips
12:09.37Cotullaand etc
12:09.42Cotullaphotos
12:09.44Cotullamusic
12:10.04zeusoh, btw any way to hackup and replace nand on leo ?
12:10.08zeusor atleast the lcd ?
12:10.34zeuslcd and nand annoy me most, with banding and /sd-ext stuff in android, wp7.5 good here
12:10.35CotullaI mostly SW developer but
12:10.51Cotullanand is soldered on top of CPU afaik
12:11.06Cotullasome kind of sandwich
12:11.09Cotulla:)
12:11.10zeuso.O i thought soc had external nand
12:11.20Cotullaor maybe I am wrong .  . .
12:11.25Cotullabut seems RAM & NAND inside one chip
12:11.33zeushow ?
12:11.37Cotullajust combo
12:11.38Cotulla:)
12:11.40zeusoh
12:11.42zeus:p
12:11.45CotullaLCD
12:11.55CotullaI think hard to find other one
12:11.55zeusyou play games ? i mean on pc ?
12:12.03Cotullawith same size
12:12.05Cotullaand etc
12:12.27zeushave you tried the battlefield 3 beta ?
12:12.33zeusi am seriously dissapointed :/
12:12.37Cotullayeah, I play some games. But I don't like modern games. So I play only to few old sometimes, when I tried and don't want to do anything.
12:12.44CotullaI am still BF1942 fan :P
12:12.48zeusyeah
12:12.55zeusand bfbc2 was good too
12:12.57Cotullalooked to BFV and enough
12:13.07zeushahahaha
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12:13.54zeusaround few days ago, i was messing with framebuffer driver in linux kernel, it just brainfucked me
12:13.56zeus:/
12:14.02Cotullahehe
12:14.23zeusthey implement so complex stuff when it can be done easily
12:15.14Cotullaright
12:15.22Cotullait's one of reasons why I am CE  fan
12:16.16zeusbtw, till now any of you got a notice from htc/qualcomm for some legal notice ? lol
12:17.55zeushtc try to show they are close to developer, they support open software but reality is they only care about money lol
12:18.19Cotullaalmost everybody carry about money ;)
12:18.44Cotullaotherwise they will be kicked out other competitors
12:18.48zeuslol
12:18.48Cotulla*by
12:19.07zeusif i had a million dollars, i would bribe htc for an ultimate phone of the century lol
12:19.17zeussomething like leo but insane specs
12:20.00Cotullaha
12:20.33zeuschanel seem so lonely, every1 is busy or apt killed them and you killed apt ?
12:22.03zeusthere are like 10 kernels in hd2 nand forum but except for tytung and rafpigna, all are so same to each other
12:23.03Cotullaapt die
12:23.03aptACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.
12:23.27Cotullahm dunno why it so lonely
12:23.32zeuslol
12:23.34Cotullamaybe because LEO linux is done almost
12:23.47zeuslol, so what device next ?
12:23.50Cotullathere also TP2 guys appear
12:23.52zeusrunning 2 parallel OS ?
12:24.01Cotullalol
12:25.19zeussometimes, few threads on xda make me so angry, noobs take work of people who sit on irc whole day, learn on google do hard work and post their work and get all thanks and ask for donations
12:25.41zeusxda needs more serious mods imo
12:25.44Cotullaright, it's often happens now on xda
12:25.54Cotulla:(
12:26.38zeuslol, that dorimanx guy removed the android internal garbage collecto
12:26.39zeusr
12:26.43zeusnoobs ftw !!
12:27.10Cotullaprimary users like more some-new-cool-pictures than some-internal-shit-which-is-hard-work
12:27.19zeuslol
12:27.22zeusyeah
12:27.26zeuscotulla
12:27.27zeustry this
12:27.29Cotullabecause the first has visible results I guess
12:27.48zeuspost some new fail post on xda saying, you have ported symbian to hd2 :p and just see how they react
12:28.10CotullaI like to joke, but not to lie ;)
12:28.22Cotullasymbian fails
12:28.23Cotulla:D
12:28.23zeuslol, lets do that on next april 1st
12:28.42zeusi still miss the alarm when device is off from symbian :(
12:28.50zeuscan u put clock and alarm in mag ?
12:28.52zeusLOL
12:29.12zeusthen i can spend my whole day sitting on magldr and playing tetris
12:30.03zeusCotulla die
12:30.06zeusapt die
12:30.07aptACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.
12:30.15zeuswhy only does it work with apt ?
12:30.16zeus:(
12:31.03zeusstop opening naghty sites cotulla.
12:31.52zeusoh ! i suddenly realise from my apt vision, you are in toilet. Good luck bro, i have to go :( bb
12:32.06zeusoh ! it ryhmes !
12:32.13zeusgood luck bro, i have to go
12:32.20zeusi will make a poem !
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12:33.26CotullaO_o
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12:37.08zeusback :]
12:37.16Cotullalol
12:37.20Cotullawhere afrodita?
12:37.28zeuswhat is afrodita ?
12:38.06Cotullasomebody related to zeus?
12:38.11Cotulla^^
12:38.23zeusoh
12:38.25zeusshit
12:38.27zeusfail
12:38.44Cotullaepic
12:39.29zeusyou
12:39.33zeusinvoke my inner lust
12:39.41zeus:[]
12:40.28CotullaI will flush, clean and invalidate ur lust!
12:40.50Cotullavia 15th register of coprocessor
12:44.22zeuslol
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14:38.08zeus*Hello World *
14:38.14zeusapt die
14:38.14aptACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.
14:38.27zeusapt kill cotulla
14:38.27aptACTION shoots a magneto-ionized tachyon gun at cotulla
14:38.57zeushello fellow humans
14:39.07zeusWHY WHY WHY ?!
14:39.09zeus:|
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14:39.15zeusuh
14:39.33zeushello human from 173.156.195.101
14:40.05Cotullaput ur weed to toilet
14:40.06Cotullaoks
14:40.08Cotullap[ls
14:40.10Cotullaplease
14:40.14zeusswat coming in ?
14:40.16zeusoh shit
14:40.20Cotulla:D
14:40.27zeuswill they catch my lolcats and nyancat too ?
14:40.37Cotullano
14:40.39Cotullaonly first ones
14:40.50zeusapt kill swats
14:40.51aptACTION shoots a charged pseudotachyon gun at swats
14:40.55zeusdone.
14:41.32zeusapt kill apt
14:41.32aptACTION shoots a magneto-ionized fluxneutron gun at apt
14:41.42zeusapt kill himself
14:41.42aptACTION shoots a charged fluxneutrino gun at himself
14:41.48zeuslol, this is so funny
14:41.57Cotullastupid bot
14:42.06Cotullaapt lobotomy zeus
14:42.06aptACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on zeus
14:42.14zeus:o
14:42.17Cotulla:D
14:42.49zeuslol, i had this lecture from stephen p morse in my university regarding how efficiency of programmers fall as the cpu power goes up
14:42.53zeusso interesting
14:43.06phhso obvious ...
14:43.49Cotullaya
14:43.51zeusit should have been inverse of that :/
14:44.11zeuscotulla, you bugger, stop wasting my precious cpu cycles on my leo.
14:44.32Cotullalol
14:44.33Cotulla:D
14:44.47Cotullasoftware looks bad when it works too fast
14:44.56Cotullausers like to see how it loads
14:44.59Cotulla:D
14:45.03zeussigh, humans.
14:45.16zeuszeus can take any speed.
14:45.16zeus:D
14:45.49zeuslol, once i met this guy, he used a thread delay in his program just to show a loading screen
14:46.43Cotulla:D
14:46.59zeusi am damn sure that must have been you ivan :p
14:47.19Cotullaat least people have ability to think that they will do
14:47.45zeusjust fyi, my lust is taking over me
14:47.53zeusyou are yet to cleanse me of that wiki page with naughty stuff.
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14:48.05Cotullau need flush, clean and invalidate again?
14:48.11zeusyeah !
14:49.05zeushtc has so many fanboys :s
14:49.48Cotullaeven from olimp
14:50.05CotullaI didn't think before that gods using htc :D
14:50.36zeusGods use your software cotulla
14:50.42zeusthy shall be proud.
14:50.57Cotulla:D
14:57.48zeuslol
14:57.53zeusapril 1st article
14:57.54zeushttp://tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-rewrite-linux-kernel-using-mono
15:04.02zeusapt kill #htc-linux
15:04.02aptACTION shoots a super-inverse quark gun at #htc-linux
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15:07.37helicop1apt kill apt
15:08.41zeusapt kill apt
15:08.41aptACTION shoots a super-inverse fluxgraviton gun at apt
15:08.49zeuscotulla
15:09.00zeuscotulla: you working on .35 or .37 linux for leo ?
15:09.29zeusapt lobotomy Cotulla
15:09.29aptACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on Cotulla
15:09.35zeusapt lobotomy zeus
15:09.36aptACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on zeus
15:09.41helicopter88apt kill apt
15:09.47helicopter88why doesn't work with me?
15:09.48zeuslol helicopter
15:09.51helicopter88apt lobotomy helicopter88
15:09.56zeusLOL
15:09.57helicopter88lol :'(
15:09.58zeushahahahah
15:10.00arrrghhhffs
15:10.04arrrghhhleave apt alone
15:10.07arrrghhhhe will kill us al
15:10.09arrrghhhall*
15:10.09zeushello arrrghh
15:10.16Cotullaarrrghhh hi
15:10.19zeuscotulla has hidden my weed in his bathroom
15:10.23zeusi need help
15:10.30zeusapt get drugs from cotulla
15:10.30aptACTION fetches drugs from cotulla
15:10.34zeusLOL
15:10.37Cotullalol
15:10.47Cotullazeus become so useless in modern world
15:10.51zeus:|
15:10.58zeushow ?
15:11.02Cotullahe lost water power !
15:11.13Cotullaoh no
15:11.13zeusBut he got HTC POWA !!
15:11.19Cotullawater power -- poseidon
15:11.20zeusits thunder btw :p
15:11.26zeuszeus = god of gods
15:11.33Cotullalol
15:11.33zeusback to wiki of lust :p
15:11.57Cotullaarrrghhh, how much FPS u got on RHO_W in Neocore?
15:12.27arrrghhhCotulla, at most i think we got 22-24 fps.
15:12.30arrrghhhthat's high tho
15:12.34Cotullahm
15:12.34arrrghhhi typically would get 18-20.
15:12.43Cotullaso near
15:14.12d3tul3arrrghhh, how was the concert
15:14.23arrrghhhpretty bad-ass.
15:14.33arrrghhhfilter started the show, they weren't even listed lol
15:14.35arrrghhhthat was a nice surprise.
15:14.42Cotulla:P
15:14.53zeuscotulla kill apt
15:15.11Cotullakeep ur hand away from apt!
15:15.36zeusWHY WHY WHY ?! :( Gods have no value nowadays
15:15.57zeusthy lust and desire shall be fullfilled.
15:16.18CotullaI respect only Cthulhu!
15:18.14arrrghhhlol
15:18.16arrrghhhnice
15:18.57d3tul3arrrghhh, tempted to flash omgb
15:19.17arrrghhhit's fun
15:19.20arrrghhhbut no data, if you care.
15:19.27arrrghhhand... well the RIL in general seems to blow things up.
15:19.36arrrghhhi have a list of things that are busted, if you're inclined.
15:19.55d3tul3wait is it more up to date than the ppc list
15:20.07arrrghhheh i've just been making my own
15:20.27zeus"I am thinking of rewriting Linux to meet my absurd standards. What are your thoughts?"
15:20.34zeuswho wants to help such idiots ?
15:23.16d3tul3damnit i need data...oh this is al tied into the ril i gues
15:23.40arrrghhhd3tul3, yea i need it to.  i flashed my main phone to troubleshoot
15:23.44arrrghhhbut the radio logs were a f-ing mess
15:23.56arrrghhhi passed 'em on to acl.  i'm just going to run it on my tester in the meantime.
15:24.04arrrghhhmost other things work great tho.  the UI is very fast.
15:24.35d3tul3you mind sending me the radio log, for my own personal education
15:24.40arrrghhhoh sure
15:29.03arrrghhhd3tul3, i g2g work on mah truck.  i'll catch you guys later...
15:29.21arrrghhhbut i PM'd you the radio log.  enjoy, let me know if you want moar.  i have dmesg and lolcats too
15:29.21arrrghhh:D
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15:34.02Cotullaarrrghhh, do u have links to video how android works on RHO_W? UI?
15:35.11zeusarrrghhh:i g2g work on mah truck
15:35.14zeusyou
15:35.15zeusare
15:35.16zeuslate.
15:35.40zeusbtw cots
15:35.46zeusany plan for .35 or .37 ?
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19:57.36lautrivheyda :-)
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19:59.21lautrivcan anyone tell me some prog | tool to get hardware-info on a winmob device ?
20:00.56ali1234haret
20:03.18lautrivali1234, got that anwer already in #oe and tried it too, but no essential like physical mappings and peripherials.
20:04.48ali1234well you can't just ask the arm chip about that stuff
20:04.53ali1234that's the big problem with arm today
20:05.04ali1234no standards like bios, isa, pci etc
20:05.08ali1234every chip is different
20:05.12ali1234you just have to figure it out
20:08.59lautrivali1234, sure, so i'm searching a way (tool) to get it from winmob, i will put some linux on this thingie and know it's running on PXA270@624MHz, but i won't spend too much efford on the win site.
20:09.12ali1234winmob has no standards either
20:09.20ali1234you have to disassemble drivers and see how they work
20:09.39ali1234PXA270 support is mostly complete
20:09.48ali1234look in linux kernel source
20:13.15lautrivali1234, i have another PDA with the same CPU (ipaq hx4700) and know about the support ( this one can do kernel 3.0) but isn't there any tool around to discover the given resources ? ( like any other OS can)
20:13.26ali1234no
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20:21.38elementzzARJUN SINDHWANI KI GAND MEIN DANDA
20:21.39elementzzQUALCOMM
20:21.42elementzzEMPLY HIM
20:21.44elementzzSHIT
20:21.48elementzzno1 online ?
20:21.54elementzzapt kill himself
20:21.54aptACTION shoots a ionized fluxmeson gun at himself
20:22.05elementzzapt get drugs from elementzz
20:22.05aptACTION fetches drugs from elementzz
20:28.44elementzzWAR-BF3 beta 10 days: i dnt knw WAR-BF3 beta 10 days: i like being a park of something WAR-BF3 beta 10 days: worthwhile
20:28.52elementzzWAR-BF3 beta 10 days: i suck dicks
20:31.31ali1234how strange
20:41.03helicopter88apt die
20:41.44caliban2apt lobotomy helicopter88
20:41.45aptACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on helicopter88
20:42.07helicopter88lol
20:42.10caliban2seriously helicopter88, it's you. it's not apt, it'
20:42.13caliban2*its you
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20:43.02aptACTION shoots a excited pseudoneutron gun at caliban2
20:43.21caliban2see? told ya. :p
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21:34.23XirXesI just noticed something anomalous on my Rhodium. Its been booted into android and on battery since yesterday and in the usage statistics it says that phone idle has used 11% of the power drain. But its in airplane mode and has been since boot time. I set airplane on a previous boot.
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21:38.00XirXesI just checked and phone is off in Winblows aswell
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21:42.42XirXesI just reset. Ill see if that happens again
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