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| 12:31.09 | Scorpio_ | Hello. I read on XDA that this channel offers support for the Android branch of the project as well, correct ? |
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| 14:09.00 | arrrghhh | Scorpio_, this is more of a dev channel |
| 14:09.14 | arrrghhh | linux kernel devel for HTC devices. mostly wince htc devices. |
| 14:09.56 | Scorpio_ | I'm looking for an alternative OS for TyTnII ... the wm 6.5 is slow |
| 14:10.07 | arrrghhh | what phone? |
| 14:10.14 | arrrghhh | don't say tytn |
| 14:11.10 | Scorpio_ | what do you need to know exactly ? |
| 14:11.16 | arrrghhh | uhm |
| 14:11.18 | arrrghhh | what phone do you have...? |
| 14:11.24 | arrrghhh | that would be a good start |
| 14:12.09 | helicopter88 | arrrghhh,he has said TyTnII |
| 14:12.19 | Scorpio_ | HTC TYNTII (Europe version with only back cam) |
| 14:12.28 | arrrghhh | thought so |
| 14:12.33 | arrrghhh | helicopter88, wanted to be sure |
| 14:12.40 | arrrghhh | Scorpio_, did they ever port android to that device? |
| 14:12.59 | Scorpio_ | XDA seems to indicate so |
| 14:12.59 | arrrghhh | oh |
| 14:13.00 | arrrghhh | the kaiser |
| 14:13.02 | arrrghhh | yes they did |
| 14:13.05 | arrrghhh | so what's wrong? |
| 14:13.27 | arrrghhh | there's even a guide on how to replace winmo with android |
| 14:13.27 | arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680518 |
| 14:13.56 | Scorpio_ | yeah but do you know if its worth it ? |
| 14:14.01 | arrrghhh | worth it? |
| 14:14.07 | arrrghhh | if you hate winmo, i'd say yes. |
| 14:14.17 | arrrghhh | i haven't run it, so i can't say how well - or not - it runs |
| 14:14.21 | arrrghhh | i don't have that device, sorry. |
| 14:14.36 | arrrghhh | all i know is, i much prefer Android to WinMo. |
| 14:14.40 | arrrghhh | so i run Android. |
| 14:14.44 | Scorpio_ | i mean the WM6.5 is bad (well windows...) but won't andro be even slower ? |
| 14:14.55 | arrrghhh | why? |
| 14:15.01 | arrrghhh | you haven't even run it |
| 14:15.39 | arrrghhh | you're making wild speculation based on... nothing. |
| 14:15.43 | arrrghhh | so why not at least try it |
| 14:15.48 | arrrghhh | and make your own judgements...? |
| 14:15.56 | Scorpio_ | let me rephrase .. is the Keiser cpu enough ? |
| 14:16.05 | arrrghhh | well |
| 14:16.13 | arrrghhh | obviously if they managed to port it |
| 14:16.16 | arrrghhh | and others are running it |
| 14:16.19 | arrrghhh | it's "enough" |
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| 14:16.25 | arrrghhh | whether it's "enough for you" that's the question |
| 14:16.36 | arrrghhh | if you run winmo on it |
| 14:16.42 | arrrghhh | then you should know how slow it is |
| 14:16.51 | arrrghhh | emwe, you must explain what you meant earlier |
| 14:16.52 | Scorpio_ | yes .. dead slow |
| 14:16.58 | arrrghhh | Scorpio_, it's an old phone |
| 14:17.01 | arrrghhh | what do you expect... |
| 14:17.03 | Scorpio_ | i know |
| 14:17.06 | emwe | arrrghhh: #xdandroid ;) |
| 14:17.49 | Scorpio_ | I do own droid 2 but the phone is to costly to risk it being stolen or damaged |
| 14:18.14 | Scorpio_ | so i'm using old crap to be safe |
| 14:19.14 | arrrghhh | LOL |
| 14:19.21 | arrrghhh | you make my brain hurt. |
| 14:19.46 | arrrghhh | try it or not... this isn't a room to chat about it tho. thanks. |
| 14:19.53 | Scorpio_ | very expensive over here .. plus its a test phone for my mobile app work |
| 14:20.14 | Scorpio_ | so no brain hurting |
| 14:20.26 | Scorpio_ | thanks anyway |
| 14:21.52 | arrrghhh | lol ok |
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| 14:51.34 | Cotulla | hey |
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| 15:29.55 | gauner1986 | Cotulla: hi |
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| 16:48.08 | WisTilt2 | Morning ya'll |
| 16:48.14 | Cotulla | hey |
| 16:48.23 | Cotulla | good morning at 20:48 :P |
| 16:48.28 | WisTilt2 | how goes it there Cotulla |
| 16:48.38 | Cotulla | rain & dark |
| 16:48.39 | Cotulla | :) |
| 16:49.10 | WisTilt2 | sunny, dry, warm here but that will all change in the next month or so |
| 16:49.18 | Cotulla | ohh :( |
| 16:49.19 | arrrghhh | Cotulla, sounds like Russia |
| 16:49.23 | arrrghhh | rain & dark, lol. |
| 16:49.31 | arrrghhh | i guess add cold and snow depending on your location |
| 16:49.48 | Cotulla | "arrrghhh" <-- this sounds like some USA dog, lol |
| 16:49.54 | arrrghhh | USA dog? |
| 16:49.55 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 16:49.59 | arrrghhh | more like a pirate |
| 16:50.01 | Cotulla | Russian ones produce "brrrrrRRR" sound :D |
| 16:50.05 | arrrghhh | or... someone dying |
| 16:50.11 | Cotulla | OMG |
| 16:50.16 | arrrghhh | the castle arrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhh |
| 16:50.18 | Cotulla | ur fantasy |
| 16:50.19 | WisTilt2 | hi arrrghhh. looks like alex has acoustic pretty much working so i don't know what more I can do. im fixing the kbd/button led problem when in autobl right now. miss autobl:) |
| 16:50.31 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i figured you would jump on that ;) |
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| 18:19.48 | seb82 | does anyone know if android could be ported to a samsung F480? |
| 18:20.32 | [acl] | damn dirty ape |
| 18:21.11 | Cotulla | hey dude |
| 18:21.22 | [acl] | Cotulla: sup bro.. |
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| 18:25.13 | daedhel | hi |
| 18:25.57 | daedhel | i'm a noob. I am considering buying a smartphone, but I will not have that windows, apple, android, or any other crap on it |
| 18:26.04 | daedhel | i want GNU-Linux on it |
| 18:26.19 | daedhel | any of you have any documentation for me to read? |
| 18:33.25 | Cotulla | such phones doesn't exist, isn't it? |
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| 18:35.24 | seb82 | hey xf_merc |
| 18:35.46 | xf_merc | seb82: hey, brb |
| 18:35.54 | seb82 | kk xf_merc |
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| 18:39.53 | daedhel | well, there must be some way to have a PDA or a smartphone working with gnu"linux |
| 18:40.32 | seb82 | daedhel... the hardware won't really be supported all the way |
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| 19:03.58 | *** topic/#htc-linux is Welcome to the HTC Linux project | Community portal & WiKi http://htc-linux.org | For IRC logs, HaRET & kernel mailing lists etc. see http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Contact | The htc-linux.org project is not affiliated with the HTC Corporation | This channel is for development purposes - Join #htc-linux-chat for offtopic |
| 19:04.35 | seb82 | wb xf_merc |
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| 19:43.31 | *** topic/#htc-linux is Welcome to the HTC Linux project | Community portal & WiKi http://htc-linux.org | For IRC logs, HaRET & kernel mailing lists etc. see http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Contact | The htc-linux.org project is not affiliated with the HTC Corporation | This channel is for development purposes - Join #htc-linux-chat for offtopic |
| 19:43.37 | Cotulla | apt hi |
| 19:43.37 | apt | hello, cotulla |
| 19:43.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | Ghost89: this channel is actually htc-linux-english-courses |
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| 19:43.46 | Cotulla | apt how are u? |
| 19:43.47 | apt | Cotulla: what are you talking about? |
| 19:43.54 | Ghost89 | wanted to know if someone succeeded in installing debian on htc athena? |
| 19:44.23 | Cotulla | someone worked under linux I remember |
| 19:44.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | ask cr2 if you find him.. don't remember, but there were like 3 guys working on it |
| 19:44.52 | Cotulla | Alex, how are u? |
| 19:45.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: tired and mad |
| 19:45.17 | Cotulla | why |
| 19:45.22 | Ghost89 | k |
| 19:46.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: because i spent the whole day at the damn university |
| 19:49.03 | arrrghhh | there are usually good looking women on campus tho |
| 19:49.10 | arrrghhh | some redeeming qualities |
| 19:49.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: we don't have a campus but rather like 10 buildings across the whole city |
| 19:49.35 | arrrghhh | oh... |
| 19:49.41 | arrrghhh | sad |
| 19:49.57 | arrrghhh | i used to love uni. especially in springtime... ah. i should probably go back just to oogle. |
| 19:50.08 | arrrghhh | now that i'm an old & creepy :D |
| 19:51.38 | Cotulla | :( |
| 19:52.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: why are you sad? girls on medical faculties have booobs.. it's not like CS nerds |
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| 19:53.02 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 19:58.49 | Cotulla | why u think so |
| 19:58.51 | Cotulla | ? |
| 19:58.52 | Cotulla | :D |
| 19:59.12 | Cotulla | I saw only one such item |
| 19:59.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: because i know a girl from a medical faculty. i tend to generalize ;) |
| 19:59.27 | Cotulla | most othes are just flat as |
| 19:59.34 | Cotulla | as 1 to 1 memory mapping |
| 19:59.41 | Cotulla | VA -> PA |
| 20:00.18 | Cotulla | lol W8 part of XDA added |
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| 20:06.23 | gauner19861 | hehe |
| 20:06.44 | Cotulla | WARNING: fake gsodder detected! |
| 20:06.57 | [acl] | :-p |
| 20:07.34 | gauner19861 | product of disconnects |
| 20:07.35 | gauner19861 | :( |
| 20:07.51 | Cotulla | child of disconnect |
| 20:08.00 | Cotulla | force them to pay u aliments |
| 20:08.03 | Cotulla | :D |
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| 20:17.18 | seb82 | Cotulla, could I ask you a question? |
| 20:18.09 | Cotulla | maybe |
| 20:18.14 | Cotulla | ask and I decide :) |
| 20:18.31 | seb82 | erm...i ask and you decide if you will answer... |
| 20:18.41 | Cotulla | okay |
| 20:19.01 | seb82 | kk are you assuming that the leo sound hardware is pretty much similiar to the qdsp6_1550? |
| 20:19.45 | Cotulla | u know |
| 20:19.51 | Cotulla | reexplain |
| 20:19.51 | Cotulla | pls |
| 20:19.52 | Cotulla | :) |
| 20:20.15 | Cotulla | qdsp6_1550 is software . . . |
| 20:20.21 | Cotulla | for leo hardware . . . |
| 20:20.25 | seb82 | you are using bits and pieces from the qdsp6_1550 driver to address leo sound hardware... |
| 20:20.32 | Cotulla | where? |
| 20:20.36 | Cotulla | in ALSA? |
| 20:20.36 | Cotulla | ] |
| 20:20.50 | seb82 | for your sound driver for ALSA for leo... |
| 20:21.27 | Cotulla | it just use some api from qdsp6_1550 |
| 20:21.31 | Cotulla | low level api |
| 20:21.41 | seb82 | owkay... I see.. |
| 20:21.51 | Cotulla | android also use same layer |
| 20:22.05 | seb82 | but the code of that isn't free... |
| 20:22.39 | Cotulla | ? |
| 20:22.39 | seb82 | or so I assume currently... |
| 20:22.44 | Cotulla | free? |
| 20:22.49 | seb82 | free source... |
| 20:22.52 | Cotulla | where? |
| 20:23.02 | Cotulla | "that" <----? |
| 20:23.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | seb82: all code in CA kernel is free (it is gplv2). but firmware/equalizer tables may be non-free. |
| 20:23.23 | Cotulla | he seems mean about Android |
| 20:23.42 | seb82 | would one be able to look into the driver (or layer-driver) for the leo which is used on Android? |
| 20:23.58 | Cotulla | it's also open source |
| 20:24.05 | Cotulla | but I am talking about kernel interface only |
| 20:24.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | seb82: it is the libaudio-qds8k. but the acoustic is non-free |
| 20:24.47 | seb82 | i'm referring to kernel interface as well... |
| 20:25.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | the kernel code is gplv2. how can it be non-free? |
| 20:25.49 | seb82 | dunno... I'm not that familiar with free source... |
| 20:25.56 | Cotulla | I can develop kernel module with compatible license |
| 20:26.02 | Cotulla | and keep it closed |
| 20:26.03 | Cotulla | :P |
| 20:26.06 | seb82 | i see |
| 20:26.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: as long as you do not give anyone the binary, you can of course |
| 20:26.26 | Cotulla | no |
| 20:26.28 | Cotulla | I can give binary |
| 20:26.30 | Cotulla | without issues |
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| 20:26.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | well.. yes, you can ;) |
| 20:26.56 | Cotulla | compatible license allows it. as well NVidia do it. |
| 20:27.00 | Cotulla | and many others |
| 20:27.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes, if you keep it outside kernel. but you won't be able to use some functions that are EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL |
| 20:27.42 | Cotulla | why? |
| 20:28.28 | seb82 | just wondering |
| 20:28.35 | Cotulla | and who stops me |
| 20:28.37 | Cotulla | I just will go |
| 20:28.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: iirc EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL prevents access to functions if module license is not gpl. |
| 20:28.42 | Cotulla | and parse this table by myself |
| 20:28.48 | Cotulla | all memory is my |
| 20:28.51 | Cotulla | inside KO |
| 20:29.55 | xf_merc | Cotulla: Am I right in thinking that one has to close the audio side of the LEO (using q6audio_close) before being able to use voice? |
| 20:30.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | it is an arguable question (i.e., a good lawyer can sue you for that). let's just stop the discussion since CA code is gplv2 and that's what was asked |
| 20:32.08 | seb82 | actually I was wondering since Cotulla wrote the audio driver for leo if he had based it upon the driver from android and if someone else could add support for the sound in the calls... |
| 20:33.13 | Cotulla | xf_merc, no |
| 20:33.45 | xf_merc | Cotulla: So both audio and voice can be active at once? |
| 20:34.04 | Cotulla | Alex, is it restricted? |
| 20:34.29 | Cotulla | xf_merc, yes? |
| 20:35.17 | Cotulla | seb82, u searching funny ways |
| 20:35.23 | xf_merc | Cotulla: Awesome, that makes things a bit easier. |
| 20:35.59 | seb82 | no it's the funny ways that find me... |
| 20:36.59 | Cotulla | just go and code |
| 20:37.01 | Cotulla | wtf |
| 20:37.19 | seb82 | I was just wondering... that's all... |
| 20:37.34 | Cotulla | seb82actually I was wondering since Cotulla wrote the audio driver for leo if he had based it upon the driver from android and if someone else could add support for the sound in the calls... |
| 20:37.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: i am not a lawyer so i am not sure about whether ignoring EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL is legal or not. in fact, if you want, you can just mmap your controller and do whatever you want from userland. if you have a valid reason to make closed-source modules, please do tell |
| 20:38.03 | Cotulla | no, I ask u about parsing symbol gpl table outside |
| 20:38.51 | seb82 | apparently I started and heated up a discussion which wasn't my intention... |
| 20:38.51 | Cotulla | and userland in linux doesn't provide some cool features. like sysfs handlers. |
| 20:39.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: that is what i mean by ignoring EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL. if a function was marked as gpl, it obviously means you may only use it inside gpl code. but you can just make a kernel function that will call the gpl symbol and do EXPORT_SYMBOL. as long as this proxy is open-source, you're completely legal |
| 20:39.30 | Cotulla | I think it could be cool to register own handler inside userspace and handler requests, even other side won't know who handle them: kernel or user mode code. |
| 20:39.37 | Cotulla | *handle |
| 20:39.52 | Cotulla | since CE6.0 it was added to CE |
| 20:40.14 | Cotulla | I know there already some different systems like RPC/ DBUS and etc |
| 20:40.27 | Cotulla | but they are rather complex. maybe I want only to use simple IOCTL for simple purpose . . . |
| 20:40.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | what prevents you from using ioctl? |
| 20:40.56 | Cotulla | u can't register sysfs handle in userspace |
| 20:41.00 | Cotulla | *handler |
| 20:41.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | you can use shmem instead |
| 20:41.25 | Cotulla | it's different thing. one if u have already ioctl interface. |
| 20:42.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's not like everything in the world must exactly match windows |
| 20:42.23 | Cotulla | I didn't say this. |
| 20:42.35 | Cotulla | it's just comfortable |
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| 20:43.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | RPC is a Java thing.. DBUS is not perfect, but it is good that most apps are using it instead of multiple APIs. and if you need cross-platform network message passing, use AMPQ (RabbitMQ) |
| 20:43.08 | Cotulla | because other side just do open/read/write/close |
| 20:43.30 | Cotulla | but ofcourse it can be implemented by proxy |
| 20:43.34 | Cotulla | with kernel driver |
| 20:43.42 | Cotulla | which register / unregister sysfs |
| 20:43.47 | Cotulla | and allow user mode thread to wait |
| 20:43.51 | Cotulla | via select for example |
| 20:43.54 | Cotulla | until even comes |
| 20:44.21 | Cotulla | okay I got answer to my question |
| 20:45.17 | Cotulla | intersting what is faster, DE or QEMU? |
| 20:45.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | what is DE? microsoft device emulator? |
| 20:45.36 | Cotulla | ya |
| 20:46.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'd say QEMU is faster for ARM but for wp7 DE is faster because it is x86 |
| 20:46.06 | Cotulla | why QEMU still not fixed is v7? |
| 20:46.10 | seb82 | only the real deal is faster |
| 20:46.12 | Cotulla | *v7 support |
| 20:47.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | because you did not come to fix it? maybe v7 support there is enough to bootstrap and compile software. i don't know |
| 20:48.05 | Cotulla | okay |
| 20:48.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | is v7 still not fixed? are you sure? |
| 20:48.38 | Cotulla | I heard no |
| 20:48.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'd not trust rumors. better ask maemo or shr guys |
| 20:50.24 | Cotulla | they are missing |
| 20:50.29 | Cotulla | ~seen GNUtoo |
| 20:50.41 | apt | gnutoo <~gnutoo@host188-144-dynamic.7-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 12m 18s ago, saying: 'I'll go bye'. |
| 20:50.50 | Cotulla | ~seen GNUtoo|dream |
| 20:50.51 | apt | i haven't seen 'gnutoo|dream', Cotulla |
| 20:50.59 | Cotulla | ~seen GNUtoo|pc |
| 20:51.00 | apt | Cotulla: i haven't seen 'gnutoo|pc' |
| 20:51.12 | Cotulla | hm |
| 20:53.17 | Cotulla | so EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL is useless right, Alex? |
| 20:54.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: more or less so. there is always a way to work around license. |
| 20:54.51 | Cotulla | hm |
| 20:54.53 | Cotulla | I can do also |
| 20:54.56 | Cotulla | #define EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL EXPORT_SYMBOL |
| 20:54.57 | Cotulla | right? |
| 20:57.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | you can do whatever, but this can be illegal. i am not a lawyer. probably with gplv2 you can do it. actually gplv3 was made to fix this hole and forbid 'tivoisation' |
| 20:57.49 | Cotulla | okay |
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| 21:04.11 | WisTilt2 | emwe: you around? |
| 21:04.26 | emwe | WisTilt2: yap, still a bit. |
| 21:04.56 | WisTilt2 | looks like the kbd/button leds not working with autobl enabled is a userland problem not kernel |
| 21:05.31 | WisTilt2 | dont know who is working on that side for the new libs |
| 21:05.37 | emwe | WisTilt2: yap, think so too. you can try to revert some changes to PowerManagerService.java and see if it fits again |
| 21:06.15 | emwe | WisTilt2: hyc tinkered on these iirc. |
| 21:07.16 | WisTilt2 | its userland for sure, with autobl enabled userland no longer sends any brightness info so its always 0. where can I get the source tree for the testing libs for leds? |
| 21:08.03 | emwe | WisTilt2: frameworks/base on xdandroid repo |
| 21:08.21 | WisTilt2 | current xdandroid repo has the new liblights stuff? |
| 21:08.31 | emwe | that's not liblights related. |
| 21:08.53 | emwe | PowerManagerService.java in frameworks/base got some patch love. |
| 21:09.04 | emwe | imho |
| 21:09.36 | emwe | or well, you can look at that to be sure. i haven't looked at liblights lately. that would be hardware/msm7k on xdandroid repo |
| 21:09.44 | WisTilt2 | didnt know that. i'll pull current source and trace it. also, do you know when/who added lines 284-291 in micropklt_panel_resume on the current .27 tree? |
| 21:10.23 | emwe | WisTilt2: oh, there was also a change from hyc there... 27e1a01c0149b146f91cf2e62a277833a6fac0e1 |
| 21:10.44 | emwe | setting variable brightness not just 255 or 0 |
| 21:10.49 | emwe | dunno if it affects. |
| 21:11.14 | WisTilt2 | ok thanks. need autobl with working kbd/button leds:) |
| 21:11.23 | emwe | me too. |
| 21:11.43 | emwe | or, well let's say it works on gb :P |
| 21:12.44 | WisTilt2 | Alex[sp3dev]: fyi, i've been running your acoustic backport to .27 all weekend and working great. BT audio works perfect in my truck also. only problem is I lost incoming handset audio in-call after a day or so but reboot cleared it up. all else sounds nice! |
| 21:13.09 | WisTilt2 | emwe those leds work with autobl in gb? |
| 21:13.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | WisTilt2: i'm not much into voice calls so you're welcome to debug. i'm trying to fix recording with headset now |
| 21:13.37 | emwe | yap. and liblights should be identical. so i'd assume PowerManagerService |
| 21:14.05 | WisTilt2 | that sounds logical. ill take a look at both and compare |
| 21:14.41 | WisTilt2 | Alex[sp3dev] yeah its probably a simple state not set under a certain condition. i ran it through the ringer and impressed |
| 21:15.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: jb's acoustic unmuted mic only in call and when recording with internal mics from android. i have made it unmute mic on any recording and the recording with headset works now. i'll prepare the patches |
| 21:15.50 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: ah cool. i somehow can#t get voice search to work on rhod400. rhod500 user said it's fine... |
| 21:16.17 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: i don't wanna get into it now, but i had to keep 256 for CURRENT on RHOD otherwise incall mic was not working. perhaps it works with your recent set of patches. |
| 21:16.26 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: or there is some rhod400<>rhod500 difference. |
| 21:16.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: not sure. i have nothing against using 256 as current as long as it does not break media player |
| 21:17.14 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: been running 256 all the time with calls and mp3 player :) |
| 21:17.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | nice |
| 21:17.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'll try reverting to 256 later |
| 21:17.34 | emwe | but might be an issue on my side. dunno as the other user just ran the my .35 with the fresh built libs. |
| 21:17.49 | WisTilt2 | is kernel.org down or is just my end? |
| 21:17.51 | emwe | i can test 0x11 or 256 against your new set of patches. perhaps they fix voice search, too. |
| 21:17.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | WisTilt2: it was pwned |
| 21:17.57 | stinebd | WisTilt2: it was compromised |
| 21:17.58 | emwe | WisTilt2: been down for quite a wihle. hacked. |
| 21:18.01 | emwe | lol |
| 21:18.10 | WisTilt2 | that sux |
| 21:18.13 | stinebd | pretty sure the attacker was arrrghhh |
| 21:18.20 | WisTilt2 | lol |
| 21:18.20 | stinebd | upset about the current state of htc acoustic |
| 21:18.47 | WisTilt2 | so anywhere else i can get the current xdandroid tree? |
| 21:18.58 | stinebd | heh... nope |
| 21:19.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | WisTilt2: replace kernel.org with omapzoom |
| 21:19.06 | WisTilt2 | mine is from back in may |
| 21:19.17 | stinebd | is omapzoom stock? |
| 21:19.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: at least, cm7 compiled without errors |
| 21:19.39 | stinebd | see that's the issue |
| 21:19.40 | stinebd | CM trees |
| 21:19.51 | stinebd | CM has copies of korg repositories too but some of their forks are modified |
| 21:20.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | WisTilt2: http://pastebin.com/SHYgHSbe |
| 21:21.08 | WisTilt2 | tks |
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| 21:22.07 | stinebd | just a fair warning, certain CM forks might not be compatible with a straight-up aosp tree |
| 21:22.10 | stinebd | i honestly haven't tried it |
| 21:22.33 | stinebd | things like unyaffs or dalvik |
| 21:22.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: omapzoom should be vanilla. anyway it is better than being unable to build from source |
| 21:22.46 | stinebd | actually we have dalvik so that doesn't matter |
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| 21:23.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: so here is the fix for recording via headset https://gitorious.org/~ast/xdandroid/asts-hardware_msm7k_libacoustic/commit/816d2d52f3c9645544dbc0c48a1b4ac11edfeac7 |
| 21:24.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | so, only in-call volume is a major blocker now? |
| 21:24.56 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: the rhod500 guy said it's fine. puzzled. doing a call tomorrow. to lazy today. |
| 21:25.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: raph tests? |
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| 21:25.30 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: i am always amazed how fast you get stuff done. bows. |
| 21:26.08 | rad | hello |
| 21:26.20 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: no, blink led integration. can give the raph a test with this tomorrow if i can shove up some time. |
| 21:26.30 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: your 27-acoustic-integration is up to date with your commits? |
| 21:26.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: but we have wasted like 3 month procrastinating prior to starting mergin acoustic and i have spent hell lot of time to track kovsky nand issues |
| 21:26.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: yes, it is up-to-date |
| 21:26.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | is away |
| 21:27.22 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: well, then let me give it a try when i find the time :P and then we need userland release. |
| 21:27.28 | xf_merc | Markinus: Did you update the configs when you pushed Cotulla's ALSA stuff? |
| 21:27.57 | Markinus | xf_merc: yes |
| 21:28.10 | Markinus | one config, the default one |
| 21:28.26 | xf_merc | Markinus: seb82 had some issues with it, I had to give him mine. Not sure which one he used though... |
| 21:28.52 | xf_merc | Markinus: Was just checking. |
| 21:29.00 | Markinus | ok |
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| 21:35.28 | rad | i've got a quick question. i want to try out openmoko on my htc dream but the ftp links on the openmoko wiki does not work, leviathan had to disable them so i was wandering if you know any place else where i could download precompiled kernel and rootfs image? |
| 21:37.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | rad: go to #openmoko-cdevel |
| 21:37.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | and shr-project.org |
| 21:40.01 | Cotulla | hehe |
| 21:40.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: and then, we'll need to fix wifi fo 35. maybe we should port some code from cm7 which allows to use rfkill instead of rmmod/insmod and just keep wl1251 modules always loaded |
| 21:41.19 | rad | thanks Alex |
| 21:41.41 | [acl] | fix bcm for .35 please |
| 21:41.42 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: is wl1251 supposed to be loaded/unloaded or is that just "our" hack to save power? |
| 21:41.45 | [acl] | :-) |
| 21:41.53 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 21:41.56 | arrrghhh | get on it! |
| 21:42.01 | arrrghhh | whips Alex[sp3dev] and emwe |
| 21:42.17 | [acl] | haha.. id play the drum beat as the whipping starts :-p |
| 21:42.21 | emwe | arrrghhh: remember, i get nothing done. |
| 21:42.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: wl1251 does not need unloading since it is controlled by sdio power. i think i just need to add wake lock because my device does not wake up if suspended when using wl1251 |
| 21:42.40 | arrrghhh | emwe, oh sure you do. you take plenty from Alex's tree :P |
| 21:42.46 | arrrghhh | which is much more than i have done... he |
| 21:42.48 | arrrghhh | heh* |
| 21:43.01 | emwe | arrrghhh: lol |
| 21:43.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: the imperial march? |
| 21:43.23 | [acl] | as long as people get movin. |
| 21:46.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: and yes, headset recording is fixed |
| 21:47.59 | arrrghhh | w00t |
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| 21:49.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: what's the status of GB now? will we make a gingerbread release when acoustic is integrated? |
| 21:49.07 | [acl] | emwe: you wanna talk prox ? i got a few mins |
| 21:49.33 | stinebd | Alex[sp3dev]: gb is pending merges and a fix |
| 21:49.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: which ones? |
| 21:49.47 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: worksforme. but i am featureless. |
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| 21:50.02 | emwe | [acl]: rather tomorrow. i am kind off right now. |
| 21:50.02 | stinebd | Alex[sp3dev]: whichever ones i haven't done yet, i forget. the fix is a TI bluetooth crasher |
| 21:50.09 | emwe | [acl]: rather about to... |
| 21:51.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: ok. i will not tell you that i've built cm7 and bt just works. oh shi~ |
| 21:51.25 | stinebd | Alex[sp3dev]: right, i have a commit which i think is the fix but i haven't built and tested it yet |
| 21:51.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok |
| 21:52.06 | stinebd | bt works on ti devices? |
| 21:52.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | yep |
| 21:52.18 | stinebd | great, then it's probably the right commit |
| 21:52.36 | stinebd | and if not, i know where to get the right one |
| 21:52.41 | stinebd | thanks |
| 21:52.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | what about merges? what is left? |
| 21:52.49 | stinebd | i really don't remember |
| 21:52.54 | stinebd | i've been away from it for a long time |
| 21:53.20 | stinebd | it should be whichever merges don't apply cleanly from froyo to ginger |
| 21:53.22 | emwe | i tried to keep up to date. missing camera2 patches got in with acoutsic merge |
| 21:53.31 | emwe | nothing major imho. |
| 21:53.40 | emwe | autobl kb works |
| 21:53.54 | emwe | ril and liblights are up to date. gps a tad bit ahead. |
| 21:54.03 | stinebd | poor pathetic froyo gps |
| 21:54.08 | [acl] | lol |
| 21:54.12 | emwe | never dared to go back testing |
| 21:54.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: if you don't mind, i'll add some ifdef guards to RIL and hardware makefiles later (and define them in BoardConfig.mk). my plan is to be able to just make a manifest and build cm7 with some of libraries pulled directly from xdandroid git. i think it is easier to use cm7/aosp on nand than messing our init script |
| 21:54.20 | stinebd | do anything with prox? |
| 21:54.21 | emwe | let's say i've been on gb since months now with .35 |
| 21:54.39 | [acl] | stinebd: done.. ill commit soon for rhod |
| 21:54.41 | emwe | stinebd: not yet. left todo |
| 21:54.55 | stinebd | Alex[sp3dev]: sure, whatever you do is fine as long as it doesn't break our current setup when dropped in |
| 21:55.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok |
| 21:55.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | good night guys. see you tomorrow |
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| 21:55.15 | stinebd | night, thanks again |
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| 21:55.25 | [acl] | however its not as sensitive as winmo. I need to get close to it to trigger it. Like about 1/2 inch. While on winmo it can pick up a nice 1 inch easy |
| 21:55.51 | stinebd | [acl]: is all the work being done in userland? |
| 21:56.17 | [acl] | well its all stock cm7 code. so not sure how that translates to xdandroid code |
| 21:56.30 | [acl] | libsensors doesnt need to be touched |
| 21:56.32 | [acl] | just all kernel |
| 21:56.37 | stinebd | ah okay |
| 21:56.41 | [acl] | but thats using ioctl |
| 21:56.57 | stinebd | so we'll have to pull the relevant class from cm7 into our libsensors |
| 21:56.58 | [acl] | for froyo its easy to just put a sysfs entry. |
| 21:57.37 | stinebd | the new sensors stuff is really easy to work with |
| 21:57.50 | [acl] | yeah its no biggie. just froyo you have to make peace with |
| 21:57.56 | stinebd | froyo can suck it |
| 21:58.01 | [acl] | dang ok.. |
| 21:58.02 | [acl] | lol |
| 21:58.06 | arrrghhh | hah |
| 21:58.06 | stinebd | if we get ti bt working on gingerbread we can ditch froyo completely |
| 21:58.34 | stinebd | that and gps were the major blockers |
| 21:58.45 | stinebd | everything else works at least as well as froyo and in many cases better |
| 21:58.47 | arrrghhh | which gps is fixxxxxored |
| 21:58.57 | emwe | gb |
| 21:58.59 | arrrghhh | stinebd, did you ever sort out that weird data flakiness in gb? |
| 21:59.08 | stinebd | the what? |
| 21:59.08 | emwe | data flakiness? |
| 21:59.09 | arrrghhh | or did that fix itself with the new RIL. gawd |
| 21:59.18 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 21:59.18 | emwe | data fine /methinks |
| 21:59.21 | stinebd | is this some cdma crap? |
| 21:59.22 | arrrghhh | well on GSM it was random |
| 21:59.32 | stinebd | gsm? |
| 21:59.34 | arrrghhh | data would just randomly flake |
| 21:59.40 | stinebd | oh right i remember |
| 21:59.41 | arrrghhh | but on CDMA it was consistently reproducible |
| 21:59.41 | emwe | i sometimes have the feeling i get mails when i resume the phone |
| 21:59.45 | emwe | not often, just sometimes |
| 21:59.48 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 21:59.58 | arrrghhh | i guess it doesn't matter until you press a test image. |
| 21:59.58 | emwe | ok, flakiness is likely there :P |
| 21:59.59 | stinebd | that was supposedly a kernel thing wasn't it? |
| 22:00.01 | arrrghhh | just curious. |
| 22:00.06 | arrrghhh | stinebd, no clue TBH |
| 22:00.10 | arrrghhh | i haven't touched GB in ages... |
| 22:00.16 | [acl] | why yall blamin kernel .. :-p |
| 22:00.22 | stinebd | dont worry [acl] |
| 22:00.25 | stinebd | it wasn't you, it was WisTilt2 |
| 22:00.25 | arrrghhh | easy scapegoat |
| 22:00.29 | [acl] | moce |
| 22:00.30 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 22:00.32 | Cotulla | is it good code? |
| 22:00.33 | [acl] | nice |
| 22:00.33 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.33 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.34 | emwe | i think i still see that sometimes |
| 22:00.37 | Cotulla | ? |
| 22:00.40 | stinebd | every since he put that collapse code in there |
| 22:00.43 | stinebd | ever* |
| 22:00.45 | Cotulla | I worry about R12 |
| 22:00.59 | stinebd | R12 is real |
| 22:01.19 | stinebd | aka IP |
| 22:01.25 | Cotulla | huh? |
| 22:01.36 | stinebd | intra-procedure call scratch register |
| 22:01.49 | Cotulla | who cares |
| 22:01.54 | stinebd | you? |
| 22:01.55 | Cotulla | I carry |
| 22:01.56 | stinebd | since you asked |
| 22:01.57 | Cotulla | if it can load |
| 22:02.01 | Cotulla | right |
| 22:02.09 | Cotulla | if specified in the both sides |
| 22:02.36 | stinebd | the called function can clobber r12 |
| 22:02.50 | Cotulla | wtf |
| 22:03.19 | Cotulla | okay nobody knows :D |
| 22:03.26 | [acl] | emwe: ok i gotta go now actually.. so take a look at my commit. email me if u have questions. i wont have time to work tonight but i can commit so we can get the ball rolling. You can handle the .35 portion :-) |
| 22:03.47 | emwe | [acl]: i am overdue already.... |
| 22:03.54 | [acl] | actually |
| 22:04.16 | [acl] | stinebd: is it worth it to get prox working on froyo? or just ignore it and leave it ready for ginger bread ? |
| 22:04.24 | emwe | ginger :P |
| 22:04.29 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 22:04.39 | arrrghhh | seems everyone is looking forward to GB. no worries here. |
| 22:04.42 | [acl] | emwe: then i dont need to make changes if you are gonna use ioct |
| 22:04.57 | [acl] | stinebd: any beef with ioct ? |
| 22:05.06 | stinebd | Cotulla: it's safe to use it -- in intra-procedural functions, if in doubt, stack it |
| 22:05.22 | emwe | passion does the same so who cares :P |
| 22:05.27 | stinebd | [acl]: it's fine |
| 22:05.30 | Cotulla | u didn't understand question even |
| 22:05.40 | Cotulla | I asked only about LDMIA R12, {R0-R12, LR} |
| 22:05.44 | stinebd | i guess not |
| 22:05.55 | stinebd | so until you can figure out how to ask a question, you can answer it yourself :P |
| 22:06.05 | Cotulla | I clear say uy |
| 22:06.12 | stinebd | yeah |
| 22:06.13 | stinebd | sure |
| 22:06.20 | Cotulla | Cotullaif it can load |
| 22:06.21 | Cotulla | Cotullaright |
| 22:06.21 | Cotulla | Cotullaif specified in the both sides |
| 22:06.48 | stinebd | why not? |
| 22:07.01 | Cotulla | lol |
| 22:07.05 | Cotulla | u bad troll |
| 22:07.08 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:07.45 | [acl] | emwe: easy as pie.. this is the only board specific stuff.. |
| 22:07.46 | [acl] | http://pastebin.com/XRav0wTn |
| 22:07.58 | [acl] | rest is all make file and kconfig and moving the capella driver over |
| 22:08.04 | WisTilt2 | <stinebd> it wasn't you, it was WisTilt2 <--- what did I do now? |
| 22:08.15 | arrrghhh | take the blame like a champ |
| 22:08.16 | arrrghhh | :D |
| 22:08.23 | [acl] | easy as pie i tell you |
| 22:08.29 | emwe | lol, thanks. |
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| 22:08.35 | WisTilt2 | ill take blame but for what? |
| 22:08.43 | WisTilt2 | blame it on the old guy yeah |
| 22:08.50 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 22:09.09 | [acl] | thats messed up.. |
| 22:09.20 | stinebd | Cotulla: the answer is no |
| 22:09.31 | stinebd | high registers r8-r15 aren't allowed on the right side |
| 22:09.35 | stinebd | according to the docs |
| 22:09.45 | [acl] | ok fine gents. i need to go. |
| 22:09.47 | [acl] | later |
| 22:09.52 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, just some data flakiness in GB that stine was conveniently pinning on the kernel. |
| 22:10.01 | arrrghhh | he wasn't serious tho :P |
| 22:10.07 | arrrghhh | well, at least about blaming you |
| 22:10.14 | arrrghhh | he might've been serious about it being a kernel issue. |
| 22:10.23 | arrrghhh | dunno... still need a refesher on GB testing. |
| 22:10.31 | WisTilt2 | wasn't me, can't prove a thing:) |
| 22:10.39 | stinebd | i have surveillance video of you doing it |
| 22:10.43 | WisTilt2 | lol |
| 22:11.01 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 22:11.24 | stinebd | Cotulla: btw, http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dui0068b/BABEFCIB.html |
| 22:11.49 | stinebd | which says the register list must be low registers |
| 22:12.37 | stinebd | guess he put me on ignore |
| 22:12.56 | stinebd | never trust a russian |
| 22:13.13 | stinebd | they'll just defect and steal your submarine |
| 22:13.14 | arrrghhh | certainly don't turn your back on them |
| 22:13.18 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 22:13.24 | stinebd | one ping only! |
| 22:13.30 | Cotulla | he just a stupid troll |
| 22:13.38 | Cotulla | :D |
| 22:13.43 | stinebd | heh |
| 22:14.42 | Cotulla | I didn't asked trolls, I asked people who really used it and knows. so go away. |
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| 22:17.19 | fpu | hello :-) |
| 22:17.46 | stinebd | that's fine. i'll be here to help you when you try it and it doesn't work |
| 22:18.19 | Cotulla | hey fpu |
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| 22:42.13 | bexo | hola |
| 22:42.18 | bexo | buenas noches |
| 22:43.12 | arrrghhh | bexo, Inglés por favor |
| 22:43.37 | stinebd | arrrghhh: english please |
| 22:43.38 | bexo | ya, pero no se ingles, lo siento |
| 22:43.43 | arrrghhh | stinebd, lol |
| 22:44.01 | arrrghhh | bexo, this room is english-only... |
| 22:44.16 | arrrghhh | esta habitación es sólo Inglés |
| 22:44.28 | arrrghhh | i'm sure google translate managed to butcher that one |
| 22:44.42 | bexo | y hay algo similar en español? |
| 22:44.56 | arrrghhh | bexo, no |
| 22:45.00 | arrrghhh | not that i know of... |
| 22:45.33 | xf_merc | bexo: http://translate.google.com/ ? |
| 22:47.04 | bexo | thanks |
| 22:47.04 | arrrghhh | hah |
| 22:47.10 | arrrghhh | xf_merc, don't give away my secrets |
| 22:47.29 | xf_merc | arrrghhh: Sorry, master :p |
| 22:47.33 | arrrghhh | lol |
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| 22:51.45 | xf_merc | Well that was eventful. |
| 22:51.59 | xf_merc | I was all psyched up for reading google's pidgeon-english. |
| 22:52.03 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:52.21 | arrrghhh | did you have fun reading my pidgeon-spanish? |
| 22:52.54 | xf_merc | It looked alright to me, but then I only took spanish for a year in school, so what do I know? |
| 22:52.59 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 22:53.11 | arrrghhh | i took 2 years of French. useless. |
| 22:53.22 | stinebd | it was not proper spanish |
| 22:53.28 | stinebd | he forgot the esse at the end |
| 22:53.40 | xf_merc | lol |
| 22:53.43 | arrrghhh | hah |
| 22:54.15 | stinebd | nobody took all four years? |
| 22:54.22 | stinebd | i was fluent in german |
| 22:54.49 | arrrghhh | did you use it? |
| 22:54.55 | stinebd | i still do |
| 22:55.01 | stinebd | because it sounds hilarious if you shout it |
| 22:55.07 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:55.17 | arrrghhh | Japanese and German seem like they would be a lot of fun to shout |
| 22:55.26 | stinebd | NAN DESU KA!!!!! |
| 22:55.52 | stinebd | the shout funny factor is the only reason i learn a language |
| 22:55.56 | stinebd | it's why i know C |
| 22:56.18 | stinebd | int main parentheses open brace! |
| 22:56.23 | arrrghhh | groan... |
| 22:56.25 | xf_merc | stinebd: I couldn't agree more about german xD |
| 22:57.07 | stinebd | don't worry arrrghhh |
| 22:57.15 | stinebd | it gets funnier if you add argc and argv |
| 22:57.17 | xf_merc | As it stands, I only know about 6 words to shout. Most of my other-language skills (hah!) lie in icelandic |
| 22:59.21 | stinebd | all you need is enough words to make what sounds like an angry sentence |
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| 23:51.52 | arrrghhh | damn, alex isn't here. |
| 23:51.56 | arrrghhh | does cam not work on x1? odd. |