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| 10:08.25 | tids2k | hey everyone ! |
| 10:46.38 | Markinus | Hi! |
| 10:46.44 | Markinus | if here someone TG01 intrested |
| 10:46.51 | Markinus | U pushed some new stuff in |
| 10:46.54 | Markinus | look to xda |
| 10:47.00 | Markinus | I |
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| 10:48.43 | tids2k | hey markinus |
| 10:48.49 | tids2k | u still here ? |
| 10:51.12 | Markinus | hehe, yes, but only if I can find some time |
| 10:54.13 | tids2k | lol |
| 10:54.17 | tids2k | please find some time |
| 10:54.24 | tids2k | this channel is my last hope |
| 10:54.35 | tids2k | dont know when cotulla or dcordes will come online |
| 10:54.57 | tids2k | i am trying to port htc sense on samsung galaxy s2 |
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| 10:55.10 | tids2k | and i need instructions on what to change in init.rc |
| 10:55.22 | tids2k | u guys are good with this ... so yah ? |
| 10:55.40 | Markinus | init.rc is the smallest problem there :) But here is the kernel dev. RPC, not userspace |
| 10:56.00 | Markinus | *IRC |
| 10:56.01 | tids2k | ah .. |
| 10:56.35 | tids2k | didnt get u sorry |
| 10:56.41 | tids2k | u meant this channel * |
| 10:58.32 | tids2k | ~seen |
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| 10:58.50 | tids2k | seen dcordes |
| 10:58.57 | tids2k | ~seen dcordes |
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| 13:40.32 | tids2k | Cotulla hii ! |
| 13:40.55 | Cotulla | hey |
| 13:41.22 | tids2k | howd u been ;) |
| 13:42.46 | tids2k | Cotulla im working on a port of HTC SENSE on Samsung Galaxy S II, can you help me with it |
| 13:43.55 | tids2k | u there bro |
| 13:44.15 | helicopter88 | Give him time |
| 13:44.21 | tids2k | ok |
| 13:44.26 | tids2k | :) |
| 13:44.46 | tids2k | i hope if tmzt is reading this, he can join in and something to it |
| 13:45.52 | tids2k | heli did u check the poll result on my thread 1111 members want sense on sgs II |
| 13:45.58 | tids2k | this is just amazing |
| 13:46.13 | tids2k | 88% :) |
| 13:46.55 | helicopter88 | tids2k: This is a developement(mostly kernel) only channel..please refrain from not developement chats.. |
| 13:47.04 | tids2k | oh sorry |
| 13:47.09 | tids2k | wring window |
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| 13:48.16 | Cotulla | no |
| 13:48.45 | tids2k | to me cotulla ? |
| 13:48.49 | Cotulla | yes and this development channel |
| 13:49.12 | Cotulla | >>1111 members want sense on sgs II |
| 13:49.14 | Cotulla | and? |
| 13:49.18 | Cotulla | users always want anything |
| 13:49.24 | Cotulla | they don't carry who will do it |
| 13:49.34 | tids2k | well i posted in the wrong channel |
| 13:49.37 | Cotulla | u can create any poll and "yes, users want it" |
| 13:49.37 | tids2k | i apologise |
| 13:49.45 | Cotulla | :D |
| 13:49.48 | tids2k | :) |
| 13:49.57 | Cotulla | u should not count them seriously |
| 13:50.03 | tids2k | hmnn... |
| 13:50.17 | tids2k | cotulla i need some guidance from u |
| 13:50.28 | xf_merc | Cotulla: You are partially correct. Users want anything (as long as it is FREE) |
| 13:50.42 | Cotulla | yes |
| 13:50.46 | Cotulla | somebody will do something for free |
| 13:50.47 | Cotulla | and etc |
| 13:50.48 | Cotulla | :D |
| 13:50.58 | Cotulla | without any clue that it's long hard work and etc |
| 13:51.15 | Cotulla | like some people start post rubbish about Android on WP7 phones |
| 13:51.20 | Cotulla | wtf sell it and buy Android one |
| 13:51.33 | Cotulla | or many other examples |
| 13:52.19 | Cotulla | and sense no portable to sgs2 |
| 13:52.21 | Cotulla | *not |
| 13:52.25 | Cotulla | it's android :D |
| 13:52.39 | helicopter88 | lol |
| 13:53.00 | tids2k | lol |
| 13:53.05 | Cotulla | it's not open, it more closed than Windows Mobile or Windows Phone |
| 13:53.22 | Cotulla | there we can find right drivers and sense works |
| 13:53.40 | Cotulla | in android u can't |
| 13:53.46 | xf_merc | Sense is about as portable as a live landmine... |
| 13:53.57 | Cotulla | any interface I guess |
| 13:54.18 | Cotulla | because htc samsung lg motorolla make own changes inside android and they do not publish them |
| 13:54.32 | Cotulla | license allows it |
| 13:54.46 | Cotulla | so |
| 13:55.00 | Cotulla | modules are not compatible and etc |
| 13:55.37 | Cotulla | it make android worse platform for any kind of UI porting |
| 13:55.51 | Cotulla | *the worst |
| 13:56.02 | helicopter88 | btw,Cotulla,how's goin magldr 2.0? |
| 13:56.12 | Cotulla | still working |
| 13:56.35 | helicopter88 | what's the new game? |
| 13:56.42 | Cotulla | :D |
| 13:56.59 | Cotulla | now is core functionality at the first place |
| 13:57.04 | helicopter88 | pacman,please,i would get an hd2 just to play pacman on magldr |
| 13:58.06 | Cotulla | pacman . . . |
| 13:58.15 | helicopter88 | Who cares about core? lol |
| 13:58.22 | Cotulla | masterpiece |
| 13:59.03 | xf_merc | Could always do 1D pong, gets boring pretty fast though... |
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| 13:59.10 | helicopter88 | I'll leave you working and |
| 13:59.18 | helicopter88 | and what? why have i written and? |
| 13:59.28 | Cotulla | ? |
| 13:59.37 | Cotulla | maybe |
| 13:59.40 | Cotulla | placeholder |
| 14:03.45 | Cotulla | so TouchWiz sucks? |
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| 14:12.03 | tids2k | if i say something then u will bash me again :p with ur wisdom words |
| 14:12.05 | tids2k | :) |
| 14:12.56 | Cotulla | bash? |
| 14:13.02 | Cotulla | I just tell u my opinion |
| 14:13.09 | Cotulla | it sometimes better to compare |
| 14:13.11 | Cotulla | ;) |
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| 14:14.21 | tids2k | lol |
| 14:15.12 | Cotulla | ? |
| 14:15.53 | tids2k | yeh its nothing compared to sense |
| 14:16.10 | Cotulla | okay |
| 14:18.09 | xf_merc | ...so I change one line in board-htcleo-ts.c and now everything is backwards again and I can't click. what the hell? |
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| 14:56.21 | Cotulla | ? |
| 14:56.26 | Cotulla | lol |
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| 16:40.58 | Cotulla | hey Alex |
| 16:41.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | hi |
| 16:41.22 | arrrghhh | howdy thar |
| 16:41.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | booooring |
| 16:41.42 | arrrghhh | wat |
| 16:41.50 | arrrghhh | you want more logs? :P |
| 16:42.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | nope |
| 16:42.21 | arrrghhh | voice search/command fail. volume control also fails in call. |
| 16:42.34 | Cotulla | hey doods |
| 16:42.38 | Cotulla | how are u? |
| 16:42.38 | arrrghhh | oddly it seems to work everywhere else tho... the volume control that is |
| 16:42.42 | arrrghhh | Cotulla, not bad |
| 16:42.49 | arrrghhh | getting ready to go work on my mini-truck. |
| 16:42.51 | Cotulla | nice |
| 16:43.05 | Cotulla | okay ;) |
| 16:43.29 | Cotulla | one looks at KRAZ forces u to add "mini-" before :D |
| 16:43.34 | Cotulla | *look |
| 16:43.36 | arrrghhh | yes lol |
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| 16:43.57 | arrrghhh | Cotulla, there's bigger |
| 16:44.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: does the builtin mic work in call? |
| 16:44.19 | Cotulla | there was some kind of big truck for sand |
| 16:44.25 | Cotulla | but I don't remember it's name |
| 16:44.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | belaz? |
| 16:44.39 | Cotulla | ya |
| 16:44.42 | Cotulla | +1 |
| 16:44.48 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], i just had a phone call - it worked, but i only tested earcup. no speakerphone. |
| 16:44.58 | arrrghhh | i can test speakerphone if you want. that did work last time i tried. |
| 16:44.59 | Cotulla | http://www.evraziaperm.ru/uploads/posts/2011-01/1296331891_belaz2.jpg |
| 16:45.19 | Cotulla | arrrghhh look and change mini to micro :D |
| 16:45.21 | arrrghhh | Cotulla, lol. that's like a mining truck |
| 16:45.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://fun.kamazzz.com/Fun/image313.jpg |
| 16:46.16 | arrrghhh | http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/3/3/83f52567-fad1-4f8f-a3ed-c84ce2979b5f.Full.jpg |
| 16:46.30 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], translation? |
| 16:46.32 | Cotulla | arrrghhh, what is it? |
| 16:46.41 | Cotulla | "My belaz, my rules" :D |
| 16:46.41 | arrrghhh | Cotulla, it's a "truck" from south africa :P |
| 16:46.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: 'your belaz. your rules' |
| 16:46.46 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], lol |
| 16:46.47 | Cotulla | oh |
| 16:46.50 | Cotulla | there u |
| 16:46.51 | Cotulla | yes |
| 16:46.58 | arrrghhh | Cotulla, it's called a Marauder |
| 16:47.16 | arrrghhh | http://www.hothummer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/marauder-hummer-01.jpg |
| 16:47.16 | Cotulla | seems like war-machine |
| 16:47.23 | arrrghhh | basically a hummer for south africa |
| 16:47.24 | arrrghhh | yes |
| 16:47.42 | Cotulla | is it bigger than usual hummer? |
| 16:47.46 | arrrghhh | yes. much. |
| 16:47.55 | arrrghhh | let me see if there's a comparison photo lol |
| 16:48.23 | arrrghhh | http://www.car24h.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Marauder.jpg |
| 16:48.24 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 16:48.33 | arrrghhh | hold on, there's gotta be a better one |
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| 16:48.38 | arrrghhh | aw |
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| 16:48.42 | Cotulla | lol |
| 16:48.42 | arrrghhh | too much OT? |
| 16:48.43 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 16:48.54 | Markinus | hehehe, seems here TopGear Fans ;) |
| 16:48.56 | Cotulla | yeah I was kicked by myself :( |
| 16:49.06 | arrrghhh | Cotulla, lol |
| 16:49.11 | arrrghhh | Markinus, hehe that was a good episode |
| 16:49.14 | arrrghhh | smashing thru everything |
| 16:49.16 | Markinus | yeah! |
| 16:49.19 | Cotulla | :D |
| 16:49.33 | arrrghhh | perfect! |
| 16:49.36 | arrrghhh | found it Cotulla |
| 16:49.37 | Cotulla | did they try belaz with it? |
| 16:49.41 | arrrghhh | http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/07/marauder.jpg |
| 16:49.47 | arrrghhh | hummer vs. marauder |
| 16:49.48 | arrrghhh | lolol |
| 16:50.14 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 16:50.15 | Cotulla | :) |
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| 16:58.46 | tmzt | Cotulla: shit forget your other nick can you join #msm-bootloader for a few? |
| 16:59.30 | Cotulla | tehre new fan? |
| 16:59.31 | Cotulla | okay |
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| 18:24.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | okay. flashed to nand again. now need to figure out why audio crashes http://pastebin.com/FbKfTf2w |
| 18:25.00 | Cotulla | wrong code! |
| 18:25.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | ah? |
| 18:25.31 | Cotulla | it crashes because there wrong code, isn't it? |
| 18:25.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, i was not asking for opinion from captain obvious |
| 18:25.54 | Cotulla | lol |
| 18:26.00 | Cotulla | :D |
| 18:26.15 | Cotulla | why |
| 18:26.15 | Cotulla | DMA : 0xffa00000 - 0xffe00000 ( 4 MB) |
| 18:26.16 | Cotulla | so big? |
| 18:26.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | no idea |
| 18:27.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | adsp: module 'AUDPPTASK' enable timed out <- this looks suspicious. do you have it? i think i need to compare adsp code with vogue and rhod nand kernels |
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| 18:47.18 | xf_merc | Just a thought on usb hosting, has anyone tried ehci-msm.c from CA on the Evo tree for the HD2? I'm tempted to give it a shot but its a 300 meg clone and if it's just as incompatible as the LTGO one then screw that. |
| 18:48.01 | Markinus | CA has a complete different USb stack. There is much stuff based on RPC calls |
| 18:48.13 | Markinus | very diffecoult to merge |
| 18:48.40 | xf_merc | Great. So we have 3 different usb stacks on the go? |
| 18:52.28 | xf_merc | Hehehe, this looks like fun... If I wasn't already insane, I would be now. |
| 18:58.12 | Cotulla | it's linux, baby |
| 18:58.14 | Cotulla | :D |
| 19:02.13 | xf_merc | Could be worse. Could be OS "I don't understand standard unix nfs" X |
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| 19:03.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | xf_merc: do not ever try to troll Cotulla unless you want to waste 2-3 hours of life in vain |
| 19:03.36 | xf_merc | Alex[sp3dev]: I wasn't. |
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| 19:12.14 | Cotulla | I have untrollable attribute set |
| 19:12.14 | Cotulla | :P |
| 19:12.40 | Cotulla | xf_merc, it just attitude of people |
| 19:12.52 | Cotulla | instead of working under "one universal open source usb stack" |
| 19:12.57 | Cotulla | they will make a tons of owns |
| 19:13.07 | Cotulla | because A don't like functions names of B |
| 19:13.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | why are you blaming other people instead of working on one universal open source usb stack yourself? |
| 19:13.42 | xf_merc | Alex[sp3dev]: Me? I'm planning to. |
| 19:13.43 | Cotulla | I made one for magldr and happy |
| 19:13.46 | xf_merc | Just doing my homework first. |
| 19:14.05 | Cotulla | Alex, I am looking for feedback results point |
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| 19:14.27 | Cotulla | but ofcourse |
| 19:14.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: that's what other people think as well. and you have no right to criticize them unless you're paying money to them for it |
| 19:14.32 | Cotulla | OTG/HOST |
| 19:14.36 | Cotulla | always more complex |
| 19:14.58 | Cotulla | yeah, but there are good examples |
| 19:15.29 | Cotulla | and it's linux |
| 19:15.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | but you are trolling now ;) |
| 19:15.38 | Cotulla | they can restrict of using stuffs I guess |
| 19:15.44 | Cotulla | to prevent such cases |
| 19:15.45 | Cotulla | why not? |
| 19:15.58 | Cotulla | even ship tests which every usb driver must be confirm |
| 19:16.10 | Cotulla | btw are they have some kernel tests? |
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| 19:16.22 | Cotulla | like CETK |
| 19:16.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | first of all, in windoze it is not better than in linux (you have to pay for drivers and everyone customizes them) and secondly, it's qualcomm has made 3 different drivers, not linux guys. there is only one usb stack in linux itselfs |
| 19:16.39 | seb82 | hey all |
| 19:17.01 | seb82 | hi Cotulla, wot up? |
| 19:17.09 | seb82 | Alex, hows ya? |
| 19:17.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | seb82: hey. fine |
| 19:17.23 | seb82 | xf_merc, hows life? |
| 19:17.27 | seb82 | good to hear |
| 19:17.59 | Cotulla | it's in times better there |
| 19:18.04 | Cotulla | u can develop platform |
| 19:18.06 | Cotulla | and run CETK |
| 19:18.07 | xf_merc | seb82: Don't ask. |
| 19:18.20 | Cotulla | and find that your crappy timer works as crap from tests |
| 19:18.22 | seb82 | xf_merc, that doesn't sound good... |
| 19:18.26 | Cotulla | and other tests |
| 19:18.42 | Cotulla | better support for developers |
| 19:19.05 | Cotulla | as well security cookie also good thing |
| 19:19.24 | Cotulla | yes, u need pay for it |
| 19:19.56 | xf_merc | seb82: It's just been a frustrating few days. I've lost count of the amount of times I've mounted/unmounted my SD card. Just shitty little things like "why is there not a shortcut to xvkbd in the menu" |
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| 19:20.09 | Cotulla | but who stops from developing something simular in open source? no, they prefer to change memcpy copy order to break Adobe Flash and then make a new internet sensation. |
| 19:20.30 | seb82 | xf_merc what are you running then? |
| 19:20.45 | Cotulla | seb82, hi |
| 19:20.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: memcpy was not following standard. if someone was relying on undocumented behavior, they're to blame. |
| 19:21.25 | Cotulla | Alex, yes. It's in ideal world. |
| 19:21.35 | Cotulla | but our world... u know nobody care about standards |
| 19:21.52 | Cotulla | because 1)they doesn't describe some things (more deep and etc) |
| 19:22.04 | Cotulla | 2)it sometimes hard to implement full standard |
| 19:22.13 | Cotulla | so |
| 19:22.29 | Cotulla | any stuffs have compatible and uncompatible areas |
| 19:22.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: why should linux developers care about idiots? and actually, keeping compatibility with broken apps only increases the number of shitty software exponentially |
| 19:22.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | and back to usb |
| 19:22.50 | xf_merc | seb82: Squeeze 602, with the EVO kernel, a few custom patches here and there to get some HS detection working and give me some way of right clicking. |
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| 19:23.25 | seb82 | xf_merc perhaps continue in a private window? |
| 19:23.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | userland developers must rely on libusb and not touch raw kernel interfaces. therefore api/abi compatibility must be in libusb, not in linux |
| 19:23.41 | Cotulla | because they should carry that other people / companies spent time for developing |
| 19:23.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: no they should not |
| 19:24.03 | Cotulla | yeah, they didn't do that |
| 19:24.10 | Cotulla | and later we got such funny results |
| 19:24.16 | Cotulla | like with flash |
| 19:24.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | why should someone spend time supporting buggy behaviour? why should anyone support closed-source software without being paid for that? |
| 19:25.01 | Cotulla | who asked them to touch this memcpy? |
| 19:25.19 | Cotulla | they tell about it like they never has bugs inside code . . . |
| 19:25.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | they did it to 1. obey C standard and 2. it gave performance improvement |
| 19:26.03 | Cotulla | even if it open source, usually in real projects only authors can fix error. |
| 19:26.23 | Cotulla | fixing errors without clue about purpose of code - it's good way to get new errors! |
| 19:26.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: but it is a good way to reveal bugs and fix broken software. if you as a user do not want to face bugs like broken flash, you should use long term service distributions with commercial support like redhat/ubuntu lts. if you use beta versions without waiting for developers to fix errors, you're to blame yourself |
| 19:27.30 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 19:27.54 | Cotulla | but developers should understand that Flash is very important for some kind of users. Without flash they just lost testers. free testers! |
| 19:28.07 | Cotulla | it's not some crappy calculator with green buttons, yes? |
| 19:29.00 | Cotulla | it can be implemented as one SO as proxy which reads runtime version from application and then load right SO and link with them functions |
| 19:29.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: what do you suggest? to keep compatibility with the software written by the guys who are lazy to read c manual? and become like microsoft, with tons of duplicate code where it takes 100 times longer to introduce changes? |
| 19:29.46 | Cotulla | of course such using of memcpy is bad, I agree |
| 19:29.51 | Cotulla | *usage |
| 19:29.59 | Cotulla | but question in compatible |
| 19:30.15 | Cotulla | duplicate code not always bad |
| 19:30.40 | Cotulla | yes, they doesn't read manuals. they are @$&*@^$^ |
| 19:30.49 | Cotulla | but hey, product released |
| 19:30.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: but well, iirc, the SO proxy for flash was rolled out the same day. but again. if you're using unstable versions of software, it's your problem. and no one is going to support closed blobs because it is stupid work |
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| 19:31.09 | Cotulla | new release means 1)internal testing 2)external testing 3)release 4)collecting feedback and etc |
| 19:31.26 | Cotulla | and |
| 19:31.30 | Cotulla | it's not only for Adobe |
| 19:31.41 | Cotulla | for other open source projects it's same |
| 19:32.40 | Cotulla | it's just question of time: u prefer to do some crappy work as animal or u prefer to do something new/hard/awesome. |
| 19:32.50 | Cotulla | ok back to usb |
| 19:32.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: where's the problem, again? open source software can be fixed. closed-source will likely be fixed when the next LTS release of red hat happens so the paying customers will not notice. why should open source developers spend their time doing work that should have been done by the developers of flash, for example? |
| 19:34.11 | Cotulla | actually they should be impressed that Adobe released Flash for GNU/Linux |
| 19:34.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: orly? licking arse and waiting for god-like developers is about windows, not about free software |
| 19:35.18 | Cotulla | Markinus added ALSA to git |
| 19:35.22 | Cotulla | to LEO git |
| 19:35.48 | Cotulla | people like to choose local gods |
| 19:36.07 | Cotulla | and flash inside GNU/Linux means increase number of users |
| 19:38.06 | Cotulla | anyway it seems that they like to build own world |
| 19:38.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: don't be shocked, but most free software developers are writing software for themselves and do not care about attracting users |
| 19:38.47 | Cotulla | but then they comes on and try to show off with it. it's irritating and annoying. |
| 19:39.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | at least they have something to show off.. windows users try to show off their skills in reinstalling windows instead |
| 19:39.39 | Cotulla | I know that. But some of them need users somehow. Firefox for example :D almost every site has adventure of it. |
| 19:40.13 | Cotulla | it's not reason to show off because they have something ;) |
| 19:40.27 | Cotulla | and tell that all other is shit |
| 19:40.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | firefox is a really bad example. they want to attract users and brag about it but never listen to what users want and every new release is worse |
| 19:40.54 | Cotulla | :P |
| 19:41.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: and in the end, most developers don't troll on forums. and most people trolling on forums cannot develop |
| 19:41.50 | Cotulla | but most people think that it's cool |
| 19:41.53 | Cotulla | Firefox |
| 19:41.59 | Cotulla | :P |
| 19:42.16 | Cotulla | it show how much corrupted this world lol |
| 19:42.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: firefox is not bad but they're wasting time on UI design and PR when users pray to reduce memory leaks and make pages render faster |
| 19:43.17 | Cotulla | last UI was stolen from Opera, isn't it? |
| 19:43.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | probably. still it was stolen for windows version. linux version does not quite look the same |
| 19:44.27 | Cotulla | I had never saw adventure of Opera, do u? |
| 19:44.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | adventure? |
| 19:44.44 | Cotulla | *advertisement |
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| 19:47.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | does it matter? opera is making money mostly from embedded/pre-installed versions.. and google advertises chromium to promote its services like gmail. why mozilla needs large user base is beyond me. maybe they hope that some boss will like it very much and order to migrate every computer in his company to firefox |
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| 20:03.54 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 20:05.16 | seb82 | Cotulla... with your wrapper... does the mic work as well on the leo... |
| 20:05.31 | Cotulla | it's not wrapper |
| 20:05.35 | Cotulla | it's ALSA realization |
| 20:06.10 | Cotulla | wrapper - it's some shit when u get parameters of function A and pass them to function B without big logic |
| 20:06.21 | Cotulla | mic works too |
| 20:06.25 | Cotulla | I tested |
| 20:06.44 | xf_merc | Cotulla: Does audio routing from calls work? |
| 20:06.55 | xf_merc | Or is it just PCM output from the CPU? |
| 20:07.37 | seb82 | Cotulla, my bad... I thought it was a wrapper... |
| 20:07.40 | Cotulla | no |
| 20:07.55 | Cotulla | there must be added |
| 20:08.01 | Cotulla | mixer switch for that |
| 20:08.08 | seb82 | in userspace |
| 20:08.13 | Cotulla | in kernel |
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| 20:09.07 | seb82 | owkay |
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| 20:16.21 | xf_merc | Cotulla: In the process of writing the audio driver, did you discover which routes need to be used to feed the modem with call-audio? |
| 20:16.48 | Cotulla | strange question |
| 20:17.12 | xf_merc | Yeah I didn't word that real great... |
| 20:18.11 | xf_merc | We have the phone-side of the phone working in GNU, but there's no audio in calls, which I understand to be because the audio from the mic isn't being routed to the correct place. Is that right? |
| 20:18.24 | Cotulla | no because I known them one year ago already ;) |
| 20:18.43 | Cotulla | there must be implemented |
| 20:18.46 | Cotulla | mixer switch |
| 20:18.54 | Cotulla | voice call on/off |
| 20:20.21 | xf_merc | I'm a little confused, but I'll keep code reading and see if I can find some hints. |
| 20:21.18 | seb82 | suppose we couldn't take the one from android? |
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| 20:35.37 | Cotulla | it's long story |
| 20:39.09 | seb82 | enlighten us... |
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| 20:42.33 | Cotulla | I am lazy |
| 20:42.45 | Cotulla | I will implement it somehow |
| 20:42.52 | Cotulla | it will take less time that story |
| 20:42.55 | Cotulla | *than |
| 20:42.56 | Cotulla | lol |
| 20:44.18 | xf_merc | Cotulla: race you :P |
| 20:44.48 | xf_merc | I kid, of course. I'd have to lean it from scratch. |
| 20:46.32 | seb82 | arent' we all lazy? |
| 20:46.40 | seb82 | How long would it take to implement it, Cotulla? |
| 20:48.46 | Cotulla | when lazy come back |
| 20:50.43 | seb82 | i don't need to go... I'm lazy already... |
| 20:50.59 | seb82 | so nor do I need to come back |
| 20:51.42 | Cotulla | means |
| 20:51.44 | Cotulla | go away |
| 20:53.02 | seb82 | i know... It's not an easy task Cotulla, writing all that stuff... |
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| 21:38.00 | tmzt | Alex[sp3dev]: did you do anything with a filesystem under lk? |
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| 21:38.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | tmzt: nope |
| 21:38.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | tmzt: why would you need that? |
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| 21:38.39 | tmzt | implementing a new bootloader for the touchpad |
| 21:38.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | i mean, why would you want to read FS? |
| 21:38.52 | tmzt | I want to read kernels and config from a ext2 partition that already exists on the device |
| 21:39.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | why not just write raw kernel image made by android mkbootimg instead of ext2? |
| 21:40.12 | tmzt | we don't want to break webos, it's a dual boot solution |
| 21:41.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | tmzt: you could steal ext2 from netbsd if linux one seems too complex to port |
| 21:42.11 | tmzt | we're using on from here tkgeisel.com from the author of lk |
| 21:42.51 | tmzt | just wondering if you had done anything with this haven't gotten into qualcomm 7k version yet |
| 21:43.00 | tmzt | working in #msm-bootloader if you care to drop in |
| 21:43.02 | tmzt | thanks |
| 21:43.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | tmzt: no, i do not plan on doing it. i'll use raw image instead. just don't want to spend much time since msm7k is too old and unfunny |
| 21:44.00 | tmzt | no I get that |
| 21:44.01 | tmzt | cool |
| 21:44.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: any ideas why enabling audpp times out on nand? maybe queue offsets are wrong? |
| 21:45.41 | Cotulla | ? |
| 21:46.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: i get error when enabling audpp adsp module and if adsp is used after it, the modem crashes |
| 21:46.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | but it works on haret |
| 21:46.39 | Cotulla | wchih device |
| 21:46.44 | Cotulla | why it worked before>? |
| 21:46.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: x1 with 5225. it has never worked on nand before |
| 21:47.00 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 21:47.06 | Cotulla | can be offsets wrong |
| 21:47.22 | Cotulla | show urs |
| 21:47.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: they are in our git. do you have them somewhere to compare? |
| 21:48.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: here if you want to compare https://gitorious.org/~ast/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/alex-linux-xperia/blobs/android-2.6.35/arch/arm/mach-msm/qdsp5/adsp_5225.c |
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| 21:52.08 | Cotulla | I think yes |
| 21:56.02 | Cotulla | ok looking |
| 22:01.51 | Cotulla | vfe working for u>? |
| 22:02.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: i have not tested lately, but i think it has worked. if your tables differ, please upload them |
| 22:05.48 | Cotulla | all same seems except #define QDSP_uPDiagQueue 21 |
| 22:06.02 | Cotulla | it not present for me. but I am not sure if it important |
| 22:06.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | this should not matter since it is after audpp |
| 22:06.22 | Cotulla | hm yes I also think so |
| 22:09.19 | Cotulla | which error u got? |
| 22:09.29 | Cotulla | try maybe activate other moduels |
| 22:09.52 | Cotulla | maybe interrupt not working? |
| 22:10.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | strange that other modules (audtask) are working |
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| 22:17.04 | Cotulla | maybe just need more time? |
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| 22:17.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah, trying that now |
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