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| 13:08.41 | xf_merc | Does anyone know if usb hosting has EVER worked in the evo leo kernel? |
| 13:18.22 | Cotulla | it never worked |
| 13:18.39 | xf_merc | Didn't think so... *sigh* |
| 13:19.38 | xf_merc | I had a quick look at the usb stuff in linuxtogo, but it looks like an awful job to bring it over. |
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| 13:22.47 | Cotulla | ya |
| 13:25.00 | xf_merc | a quick md5sum shows that the ehci-msm driver are actually the same though |
| 13:25.12 | xf_merc | so I guess it's being broken by someone else |
| 13:25.34 | xf_merc | Did anyone ever work out why it doesn't work? I had a look on the IRC logs earlier but the search is awful... |
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| 14:04.06 | xf_merc | Is there anything that needs to be called device-side to enable adb on a non-android userland? I cant get it to work. |
| 14:04.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | run the adb daemon, eh? |
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| 14:05.19 | xf_merc | Ahh okay, that's not gonna be on my rootfs though, I know that for sure. Sounds like another battle. |
| 14:05.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | switch to rndis and use ssh |
| 14:05.51 | xf_merc | Yeah, I'll figure something out |
| 14:06.00 | xf_merc | Later though, there really aren't enough hours in the day. |
| 14:06.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | but you have the whole night ahead |
| 14:06.40 | xf_merc | Yeah true, but I wont be able to really look at this again till at least 2000, maybe 2300 |
| 14:06.49 | xf_merc | (BST) |
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| 14:13.01 | Cotulla | lol alex |
| 14:13.18 | Cotulla | always good ideas :D |
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| 14:47.04 | mgross029 | Alex[sp3dev], just to let you know... I tested the new libs with BT and audio worked and routed correctly... |
| 14:47.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | mgross029: i hate you |
| 14:47.37 | mgross029 | Alex[sp3dev], ditto |
| 14:47.40 | mgross029 | :) |
| 14:48.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | these new libs don't work on kovs, sound is always routed to speaker. i've sat till 5 am today trying to fix. basically i have ideas on what's going on but older version of acoustic was better. dunno why JB decidet to introduce lots of copypasta and made the code so convoluted |
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| 14:49.49 | mgross029 | Alex[sp3dev], He was probably thinking the same as you are, but about the Rhod instead... :) |
| 14:50.22 | mgross029 | So he changed everything to get it working for the Rhod and broke the kovs... :P |
| 14:50.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | fffuuuu |
| 14:51.02 | mgross029 | Ahhh... You can feel the love in the room... |
| 14:51.05 | mgross029 | LOL |
| 14:54.01 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: this is the theme chooser i was babling about |
| 14:54.05 | [acl] | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0uz6XJkBWI&feature=youtu.be |
| 14:54.20 | [acl] | not sure where it came from.. maybe cyanos ? or kagned from somewhere else. but its on there |
| 14:54.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: i've used theme chooser on cm7 and it is cool |
| 14:54.45 | mgross029 | [acl], tested prox sensor... Same result at arrrghhh on my Rhod500... Just to let you know... |
| 14:57.46 | [acl] | mgross029: we dont have userland for it.. thanks tho.. im not gonna write that portion. ill let stine and emwe discuss it |
| 14:57.54 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: so its the same ? ok just wanted to know what was kanged |
| 14:59.31 | [acl] | i dont think it was written by cm i mean.. wonder where it came from |
| 14:59.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | t-mobile |
| 15:00.11 | [acl] | oo sexy |
| 15:01.21 | Detule | [acl], is it small userland change to enable the prox sensor |
| 15:02.47 | Detule | is this dbgfs hook in libsensors just incorrect? |
| 15:02.58 | [acl] | Detule: ehh yes and no. i didnt export any sysfs on the dirver yet. Userland checks for dbgfs now so we need to just change that to something common |
| 15:04.03 | Detule | i can the libsensors hook to whatever you set it in the driver |
| 15:04.15 | Detule | s/i can/i can patch/ |
| 15:04.22 | Detule | for a test library |
| 15:06.20 | [acl] | Detule: somewhere is sysfs i guess. Ill come up with a location.. i hate doing that tho.. |
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| 15:16.59 | arrrghhh | [acl], from what i've seen you just make one up that's totally ludicrous. |
| 15:17.17 | arrrghhh | then people will bitch about it, and actually give you suggestions as to what it should be. then you settle on the one that got the most suggestions :D |
| 15:17.38 | [acl] | lol |
| 15:18.26 | [acl] | hehe.. its not that. Not sure if its worth it or just save it for ginger. Thing is they have diff sensor code so it might be easier to just save it for ginger. |
| 15:18.36 | [acl] | plus only rhod and topaz i think have prox. |
| 15:18.47 | [acl] | not sure if the userland will query still for other devices if they dont have it |
| 15:19.03 | [acl] | in ginger it seems to also poll the gsensro |
| 15:20.28 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 15:20.44 | arrrghhh | ginger needs some lovin |
| 15:20.57 | arrrghhh | and stine says there's still a huge blocker with TI BT. i told him to just disable it :P |
| 15:21.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | what's wrong with TI BT and why is it working on dream and kanged cm builds from neopoop? |
| 15:21.24 | [acl] | i'll attack once done with omgb. too much time already invested on it to slow down |
| 15:22.29 | [acl] | lol .. neopoop |
| 15:23.15 | [acl] | are they kanged? i dont think he ever buiilt it properly. prob just hacked up a build |
| 15:23.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | they are butchered |
| 15:23.37 | [acl] | sad |
| 15:24.04 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: you ever finish downloading? |
| 15:24.06 | [acl] | shit is massive bro |
| 15:24.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: yep, i've downloaded yestoday |
| 15:25.20 | [acl] | ill email you about it when i put my shit on github.. seems to be more popular for them when its on git hub |
| 15:25.50 | [acl] | gitorious been going down for me lately |
| 15:26.45 | arrrghhh | butchered indeed. |
| 15:26.51 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], i had no clue it worked on that tho... |
| 15:27.03 | arrrghhh | i'm not even sure what the problem exactly is |
| 15:27.14 | arrrghhh | stine said something about reboots, and that he'll likely never fix it :P |
| 15:27.22 | arrrghhh | probably means he doesn't want to spend the time fixing it... |
| 15:27.35 | [acl] | arrrghhh: who is this m4f1050 dood.. i dont think i know him |
| 15:27.40 | arrrghhh | i don't eitehr |
| 15:27.45 | arrrghhh | i've only seen a few posts from him... |
| 15:27.51 | arrrghhh | sure is testy. |
| 15:27.58 | stinebd | i've spent 50+ hours on it. it means i don't have the ability to fix it. |
| 15:28.04 | arrrghhh | stinebd, heh |
| 15:28.08 | arrrghhh | damn guy... |
| 15:28.28 | arrrghhh | i'm not sure what the problem is, not like i could fix it if i did. |
| 15:28.36 | [acl] | arrrghhh: ok.. making sure its not one of those goons .. |
| 15:28.39 | arrrghhh | i just know you said it reboots the device when BT is turned on. |
| 15:28.48 | arrrghhh | [acl], i don't think he is... meh. i don't really care anymore. |
| 15:28.54 | stinebd | it crashes system_server |
| 15:29.00 | stinebd | in a dbus call |
| 15:29.17 | arrrghhh | let's just eliminate system_server |
| 15:29.21 | arrrghhh | i suggested this before tho... :P |
| 15:31.42 | [acl] | i think we need some fresh blood on it thats all.. sounds like a nice job for detule :-p |
| 15:32.02 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 15:32.04 | [acl] | its like when i spend 6 months on 3d for the rhod.. and then bzo comes in for like a day and fixes it :-(.. |
| 15:32.13 | arrrghhh | i don't know if he has a device that has TI... |
| 15:32.23 | arrrghhh | heh. bzo... |
| 15:32.29 | arrrghhh | where's that dude. swoop in and fix BT! |
| 15:32.35 | arrrghhh | he has a DIAM too IIRC. DIAM500 |
| 15:33.05 | arrrghhh | he can fix the RIL while he's at it lol. reminds me, i want to send hyc an email. |
| 15:35.50 | Detule | [acl], thanks for the vote of confidence :) but keep me out of it my expertise extends to raiding emwe's tree |
| 15:36.03 | Detule | s/extends/extends only/ |
| 15:36.50 | arrrghhh | which in turn is raided from Alex's tree lol :P |
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| 16:02.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | time to bisect acoustic, i suppose |
| 16:03.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: so the -dev libs are fine on rhod now? |
| 16:03.58 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: make me proud !! |
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| 16:07.13 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], no death of audio yet |
| 16:07.18 | arrrghhh | i haven't tested speakerphone mic |
| 16:07.35 | arrrghhh | had an issue tho - voice search/command seems to fail more often than not. |
| 16:07.41 | arrrghhh | and it used to work pretty much flawlessly before. |
| 16:08.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | basically this -dev code looks too dirtly. jb has copy-pasted most of libaudio to acoustic. but i think there are mostly typos that make it fail on kovs |
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| 17:52.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl], arrrghhh: i have pushed some acoustic fixes to git@gitorious.org:~ast/xdandroid/asts-hardware_msm7k_libacoustic.git . now my mp3 player is back alive. but somehow the headset often fails during voice calls. want to test the prebuilt libs? |
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| 17:57.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://www.mediafire.com/?d9qddv82logyf9r for you guys to test |
| 17:58.07 | [acl] | popopopopopoker face |
| 17:59.05 | Cotulla | trollface |
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| 18:34.44 | xf_merc | Alright here's a bit of an oddity. |
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| 18:36.07 | xf_merc | Alex[sp3dev]: I've tried using RNDIS to ssh into this device as you suggested earlier, but the dmesg shows that the usb controller comes up in high speed mode, resets (repeats this proceedure 6 times or so), then tries again in full speed mode and seemingly gives up, thoughts? |
| 18:36.28 | xf_merc | kernel messages show nothing other than portchange and reset events. |
| 18:37.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | xf_merc: if you're doing it with cdc_ether driver in the pda, it is strange. if you're using android multifunction driver, you're definitely doing it wrong. but you can do sth like 'echo 1 > /sys/class/usb_composite/rndis' |
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| 18:38.13 | xf_merc | Ahh, okay, I was using the android RNDIS driver, since i couldnt get the other one to compile. I'll have another shot at it... |
| 18:38.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | use google and htc-linux wiki |
| 18:38.50 | xf_merc | I did have a quick google, but got mostly irrevelent results. |
| 18:39.25 | xf_merc | I didn't look too hard at the compile issue, knowing that there was something else to try |
| 18:40.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | add the missing headers as suggested by http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Android%20Porting%20Guide |
| 18:41.43 | xf_merc | Thanks Alex[sp3dev], bookmarked. |
| 18:41.50 | xf_merc | Sorry to trouble you. |
| 18:42.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | np, but android hacks are really annoying |
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| 18:47.06 | xf_merc | ugh, more reason to hate android and more reason to love find * xargs grep... |
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| 19:53.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: pingpoop |
| 20:05.55 | [acl] | arrgg is like our 1 man support person.. have no idea how the hell he answers so many questions on a daily basis |
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| 20:07.38 | xf_merc | He has a very fitting name, it's something I say daily... |
| 20:08.14 | xf_merc | More like hourly, actually. |
| 20:08.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | i think the beard magic helps him be so productive |
| 20:08.48 | [acl] | yeah.. i remember when he first started being on the boards.. .i was like "who the fuck would name himself arrgg" ..lol ahh the good ol days |
| 20:09.08 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 20:09.23 | xf_merc | [acl]: I wondered the same thing, but I certainly don't question it anymore |
| 20:09.27 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], my beard does do quite a lot to help me support newbs. |
| 20:09.35 | arrrghhh | i've had this handle since 1998... |
| 20:09.58 | [acl] | damn |
| 20:10.00 | GNUtoo | understand that someone may want to be called arrrghhh |
| 20:10.04 | [acl] | and im here giving phh shit |
| 20:10.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: have you noticed how brain activity decreases when you shave? |
| 20:10.08 | [acl] | for his beard |
| 20:10.17 | xf_merc | Bloody hell, is there ANY part of this kernel that doesn't depend on bloody android? |
| 20:10.22 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 20:10.25 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], i never shave so... no :P |
| 20:10.33 | GNUtoo | there was a mithological person that when you cur his air his strength decrease..... |
| 20:11.08 | Detule | biblical....same thing really |
| 20:11.40 | arrrghhh | biblical, mythical... |
| 20:12.44 | GNUtoo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson |
| 20:14.31 | [acl] | i on the other hand have to be super duper shaven .. lucky fools.. |
| 20:15.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: what are you doing in IT if you have no beard? |
| 20:15.16 | [acl] | ehh.. im client facing |
| 20:16.00 | phh | cli..what ? |
| 20:16.19 | Detule | so is arrrghhh |
| 20:16.28 | Detule | in a way.... |
| 20:16.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | btw, http://www.alenz.org/mirror/khason/why-microsoft-can-blow-off-with-c.html and the follow-up http://blogs.microsoft.co.il/blogs/tamir/archive/2008/04/28/computer-languages-and-facial-hair-take-two.aspx |
| 20:17.04 | arrrghhh | Detule, lies |
| 20:17.43 | [acl] | this is how i have to dress every day |
| 20:17.45 | [acl] | http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01926/lulzsec_1926506c.jpg |
| 20:18.04 | [acl] | i do get to drink tons of wine tho :-) |
| 20:18.09 | Detule | whatever, arrrghhh handles a much tougher client base "END of conversation PLEASE" |
| 20:18.17 | arrrghhh | lol |
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| 20:25.16 | xf_merc | God damnit, so Cotulla's audio driver only works with the EVO kernel, yet the evo kernel breaks usb-eth. This is a fucking rats nest right here. |
| 20:25.33 | xf_merc | *sigh* looks like im chasing down adbd |
| 20:25.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | that's because qualcomm is shit and using non-mainlined hardware is a huge PITA |
| 20:26.32 | xf_merc | Damn right. At this rate there I'm going to wear a forehead-shaped hole in my desk. |
| 20:26.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | isn't hd2 rebased on 2.6.35 yet? |
| 20:27.14 | xf_merc | Not sure. |
| 20:28.17 | xf_merc | Last commit on linux_on_wince_htc was in march of this year, so I'm guessing not. |
| 20:29.15 | Markinus | the .32 is working very nice on leo. I ported already months ago the .35 to leo and works great. But . .hmm . .not realy needed |
| 20:30.22 | xf_merc | Markinus: You say that, but I can't for the life of me get usb hosting working on .32, and neither can others from what I've seen of the IRC logs. |
| 20:31.23 | Markinus | usb host depends on the kernel tree. The old .32 tree was able to use host. The new has different USb stack |
| 20:31.31 | xf_merc | Yeah, I know. |
| 20:31.42 | Markinus | thats the problem on linux kernel, every clone is different . .HTC, Google, etc. |
| 20:31.46 | xf_merc | But the old tree doesn't like booting from magldr, it's all tit for tat. |
| 20:31.57 | Markinus | right. . and other stuff is bad too |
| 20:32.01 | xf_merc | Yeah. |
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| 20:32.44 | xf_merc | Yeah I've seen that with linux before, you have multiple clones, and between them everything works, but fairly often there isn't one kernel with everything... |
| 20:32.53 | xf_merc | Things tend to get a bit fragmented. |
| 20:33.12 | Markinus | yeah . . problem of OpenSource. . |
| 20:33.51 | xf_merc | Yep :( |
| 20:34.38 | xf_merc | And like what's happened here, eventually the two clones get so different from each other that porting stuff over becomes a nightmare... |
| 20:34.56 | xf_merc | Oh well, guess I shouldn't worry too much, I'm thinking of changing from leo soon anyway |
| 20:35.25 | Markinus | yes . . .and .. USB Host. . . hmm. is maybe nice . .but realy needed? I have this on my SGS2, works great. but only tested. Realy used? Never . . |
| 20:36.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | Markinus: i'm using usb host on my tablet for a wimax dongle |
| 20:36.27 | xf_merc | I'm trying to put together a GNU/Linux userspace, so it's kinda important... |
| 20:36.36 | Markinus | hh, ok. On a tabled is more intresting, right |
| 20:36.38 | xf_merc | At least for me. |
| 20:37.02 | Markinus | but smartphone? |
| 20:37.25 | xf_merc | I guess it depends what your goals are. On android userspace I'd agree, it's fairly pointless. |
| 20:37.42 | xf_merc | All you can use it for are keyboard and usb disk. |
| 20:38.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | xf_merc: you can loop usb client into the usb host and mount the micro sd as an external usb disk |
| 20:38.56 | xf_merc | Alex[sp3dev]: Yeah, I know, but that's not much use if you haven't got a master |
| 20:39.22 | Markinus | I asked me self several time whether leo supports VBUS for Host. . . but I couldn't find it out |
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| 20:39.55 | xf_merc | VBUS being power to the port? |
| 20:40.04 | Markinus | yes, SGS2 can do it |
| 20:40.21 | Markinus | its question of hardware . . . |
| 20:40.27 | xf_merc | Yeah. |
| 20:40.32 | Markinus | how they did it |
| 20:40.45 | xf_merc | That doesn't worry me greatly, I don't mind injecting power. |
| 20:40.51 | Markinus | there are 8250 devices with support, in CA Code too |
| 20:41.39 | xf_merc | My overal plan is to use a dock with the detect pin grounded to trigger a boot into debian and then use USB->SVGA for a display. Sorta like a pocket media pc... |
| 20:42.00 | xf_merc | But without MAGLDR support and usb hosting its something of a pipe dream |
| 20:42.15 | xf_merc | I guess I might have a look at the USB stack one day and see if I can fix it... |
| 20:42.59 | Markinus | I took a look on its, you have to spend much time to fix that I thing. The USB STack is very different |
| 20:43.06 | Markinus | k |
| 20:43.14 | xf_merc | Yeah, I expect it'll be very hard work. |
| 20:43.17 | Markinus | but it should be possible |
| 20:43.26 | xf_merc | The lack of docs from Qualcomm certainly doesn't help either, |
| 20:43.48 | xf_merc | Now that I think on it, is there usbhosting for the Evo device in some other kernel that can be dragged in? |
| 20:43.54 | xf_merc | To save a lot of re-writing? |
| 20:43.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | xf_merc: i have some docs and schematics but only for 7200A unfortunately |
| 20:43.58 | Markinus | there is neoigh source availible how to activate that |
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| 20:44.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | but if hardware is the same across all 8250, you may have luck with copy-pasting from CA |
| 20:44.40 | Markinus | but merging can be very hard |
| 20:44.55 | xf_merc | Alex[sp3dev]: What's the CA? I've seen that term banded around a bit. |
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| 20:45.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | codeaurora, the qualcomm open source project |
| 20:45.38 | xf_merc | Ahh, okay. |
| 20:46.14 | xf_merc | I might have a look at it tomorrow/this evening, but as I said I'm thinking of switching soon anyway, so it might be a case of wasted effort... |
| 20:47.14 | Markinus | If I look what all is possbile with SGS2, gthere is a problem of "motivation" to work for Leo. But on other side Leo is still a great device |
| 20:47.56 | xf_merc | Yeah, it is. But the age is starting to show now. |
| 20:48.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | Markinus: well, if you have SGS2, just forget that qualcomm crap and enjoy the ghetto sound of the wm89xx chip. and port some meego or shr to it ;) |
| 20:48.33 | Markinus | hehe ;) |
| 20:48.46 | xf_merc | My unit's touchscreen is getting a bit flakey, and the paint is coming off. I saw an Evo3D in a phone shop last week and drooled quite a bit. I just have the raise the half-k required to buy one. |
| 20:51.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | get lg p920 or sgs2 instead. the screens are worse but the SoC is faster and more opensource, so to say. and audio should be much better |
| 20:52.21 | Markinus | yeah, right |
| 20:53.58 | xf_merc | I'm not really sure what to go for yet, I've only done a tiny bit of research. |
| 20:54.23 | xf_merc | I have to say that my first impressions with Samsung build quality left something to be desired, but that was quite a while ago. |
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| 20:55.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | actually with modern coproeconomics all hardware suck in term of build quality. well, except for thinkpad laptops, but modern models are also badly engineered |
| 20:56.01 | Markinus | yes, macs too. I have a new macbook pro. The old were real good, but the new . . . only problems . . |
| 20:56.12 | Markinus | this is somehow on all hardware . . |
| 20:56.23 | Markinus | Samsung devices are ok. For me its real good |
| 20:56.58 | Markinus | The biggest problem was the right configuration for long battery time. Now 4-5 days. thats ok |
| 20:57.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, it's all because of hyperconsumerism when you only work for your trash can and the toilet. not like we can influence hardware vendors |
| 20:57.52 | xf_merc | Couldn't agree more on the Thinkpads, I looked at laptop replacements for my aging latitude d630, but now that Dell have scrapped the lat d line, nothing touches thinkpads anymore. |
| 20:58.17 | xf_merc | But I digress. |
| 20:59.50 | xf_merc | Oh christ, I just looked at the usb drivers in htc-msm and LOWCEHTC, I don't even know where to bloody start on this... |
| 21:00.35 | Markinus | hehe, yes, thats not easy. |
| 21:01.25 | xf_merc | It's basically a re-write... |
| 21:02.01 | xf_merc | I might know microcontrollers inside and out, but re-writing USB drivers? Not my game. |
| 21:05.46 | xf_merc | I guess I could try and track down the MAGLDR issues with htc-msm-2.6.32 instead... |
| 21:06.11 | xf_merc | No, that'd be a waste of time... |
| 21:06.49 | Markinus | this is the missing part in our kernel |
| 21:06.49 | Markinus | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=drivers/usb/host/ehci-msm7201.c;h=1ec6bb9fe1e8bf684735375c4fe0976b8d11986f;hb=5e9113e1822e7f20a510829e1768a390c697fc6c |
| 21:07.20 | Markinus | you have to merge it. But copy alone is not enough. You have to research what else is needed to get it to work |
| 21:07.27 | Markinus | compare both USB stacks |
| 21:08.00 | xf_merc | sounds like fun. |
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| 21:13.17 | xf_merc | Guess I'll start by figuring out the old one. |
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| 21:17.08 | xf_merc | Does anyone know if cotulla minds if the audio driver is shared around? |
| 21:17.48 | Markinus | alsa? |
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| 21:18.15 | xf_merc | yeah |
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| 21:28.44 | arrrghhh | xf_merc, i would assume he would mind |
| 21:28.48 | arrrghhh | otherwise he would've released it... |
| 21:28.58 | arrrghhh | do you know why he hasn't released it...? |
| 21:32.27 | xf_merc | I'm guessing because he figures it isn't ready. |
| 21:32.52 | xf_merc | Admittedly I only got it from hanging around in here. |
| 21:33.18 | xf_merc | I shall tell my few naggers to go figure it out for themselves then >:) |
| 21:33.57 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:34.15 | arrrghhh | i mean, he has to release it at some point - unless he just doesn't share with anyone, which he already has :P |
| 21:35.34 | xf_merc | There are still a few issues with it. Or at least I think there are, going on reports. My only experience of it working is scripting mplayer to do something as the system comes up, because both my touchscreen and usb keyboard don't currently work... |
| 21:35.44 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:36.45 | Markinus | we will add alsa to the kernel git soon |
| 21:36.58 | Markinus | so every can use it |
| 21:39.19 | [acl] | nice |
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| 21:44.55 | arrrghhh | indeed |
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| 21:45.26 | arrrghhh | "he looks like pirate jesus." <-- something for me to aspire to. |
| 21:45.38 | arrrghhh | i need to grow out my entire beard tho. |
| 21:47.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | this guy is going to succeed in IT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXsb92LZv24 |
| 21:49.01 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:55.53 | xf_merc | Okay, screw USB for a bit. Stuff is confusing. |
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| 22:01.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: let's define the userland interface for querying lsensor value, maximum value and controlling power |
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| 22:02.27 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: thats done by default tho right. |
| 22:03.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: is it done for xdandroid? i mean, have you converted it from debugfs to sysfs? does it control power and query the limits? |
| 22:03.21 | [acl] | ahh i dunno.. xdandroid does not care for lsensor.. |
| 22:03.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | but wait.. we can implement a kernel-side led trigger for auto backlight |
| 22:03.52 | [acl] | well thing is Rhod does this all automatically oon the panel code |
| 22:04.02 | [acl] | doesnt even bother the kernel |
| 22:04.19 | [acl] | just probes when it wants to and adjusts itself |
| 22:04.43 | [acl] | for cm i made it use the ls sensor since thats how they like it.. but kept sysfs for xdandroid just in case |
| 22:05.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, i'll look into that. when will you push your patches for omfgb? |
| 22:05.39 | [acl] | soon soon.. |
| 22:05.49 | [acl] | i need to make a github account and all that poopy |
| 22:07.20 | [acl] | i need to talk to these guys first so they can commit the hyc patch so cdma can work. If they dont, then it will be a renegade build with no official support. |
| 22:07.44 | [acl] | if they do then we can at least have more people using it so cm can commit it for their world phones that are broken |
| 22:07.51 | [acl] | i wanna make hyc a famous man |
| 22:07.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: they should not reject it as it is an obvious bug with null pointer dereferencing |
| 22:08.17 | [acl] | you would think right, but google seems to be ignoring it ..lol. |
| 22:08.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | but okay |
| 22:08.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | i somehow feel android is just the way google is trolling software industry |
| 22:09.02 | [acl] | lol |
| 22:09.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | but gnight, see you tomorrow |
| 22:09.10 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: aite doo.. |
| 22:09.13 | [acl] | lata |
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| 22:13.26 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 22:13.34 | arrrghhh | google trolling the software industry, that's awesome. |
| 22:14.10 | xf_merc | True too... |
| 22:14.18 | arrrghhh | sometimes i do wonder... |
| 22:14.56 | xf_merc | God the QEMU arm system runs slower than a concrete slug... |
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| 22:16.29 | arrrghhh | i would love to see "official" support for a wince phone... that would be epic. |
| 22:17.12 | xf_merc | You mean from the manufacturer? |
| 22:17.25 | arrrghhh | no |
| 22:17.29 | arrrghhh | like CM or OMFBG |
| 22:17.31 | arrrghhh | der |
| 22:17.33 | arrrghhh | OMFGB |
| 22:23.43 | xf_merc | ahh |
| 22:29.46 | ali1234 | what does the B stand for? |
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| 22:44.25 | xf_merc | Anyone know anything about the FM xmitter in the bcm4329? |
| 22:45.52 | xf_merc | Or does anyone have any docs on that chip, for that matter. |
| 22:50.29 | arrrghhh | ali1234, gingerBread? |
| 22:50.45 | arrrghhh | ali1234, it's a take on OMG I'm sure. google OMFG :P |
| 22:50.59 | arrrghhh | FM transmitter, or receiver? lol |
| 22:51.07 | arrrghhh | i want to transmit FM on my phone. take over radio stations. |
| 22:51.25 | xf_merc | Hehe arrrghhh, you'd need something bigger than a phone |
| 22:51.37 | xf_merc | but yeah according to the press release there is a transmitter on-chip. |
| 22:51.38 | arrrghhh | probably. |
| 22:51.43 | arrrghhh | really? wacky. |
| 22:52.07 | xf_merc | But, being qualcomm, getting info on it is like getting blood from a pre-bled stone. |
| 22:52.12 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:52.24 | arrrghhh | can't say i've heard that one before, good stuff. |
| 22:52.30 | ali1234 | ah, i see :) |
| 22:52.56 | xf_merc | And trust me, you /would/ need something bigger than a phone. ;) Most stations use a transmitter that puts out 20kWatts+ |
| 22:52.56 | arrrghhh | ;) |
| 22:53.10 | arrrghhh | ali1234, don't feel so bad... I hadn't heard of it before ACL started talking about it. |
| 22:53.19 | arrrghhh | xf_merc, i know :P i was joking. |
| 22:53.29 | arrrghhh | i could at least disrupt it for cars around me tho |
| 22:53.39 | ali1234 | doubt it |
| 22:53.43 | arrrghhh | that would at least be a little fun. especially in the summer when everyone has their windows down |
| 22:53.46 | ali1234 | metal shell stops it dead |
| 22:53.50 | arrrghhh | ali1234, don't crush my dreams. |
| 22:54.01 | ali1234 | fm tx on n900 has a range of about 2m in open space |
| 22:54.17 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:54.19 | xf_merc | You could build an FM amp... |
| 22:54.26 | ali1234 | just enough to play mp3 through your car radio |
| 22:54.36 | arrrghhh | that's cool that it's included tho |
| 22:54.36 | xf_merc | and just use the phone for the modulation and stereo difference encoding. |
| 22:54.52 | ali1234 | supports rds too |
| 22:55.34 | xf_merc | ali1234: I've heard that before. My HD2 supports RDS. So far I have seen it work exactly once. |
| 22:55.40 | ali1234 | bcm = broadcom, not qualcomm. or are they the same now? |
| 22:56.02 | xf_merc | I was under the impression that broadcom got swallowed by qualcomm, but kept the name |
| 22:56.33 | ali1234 | ok. entirely possible |
| 22:57.34 | xf_merc | No, apparently I'm wrong. |
| 22:57.38 | xf_merc | Wikipedia knows all |
| 22:58.00 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 22:58.00 | ali1234 | not that broadcom are much better |
| 22:58.06 | arrrghhh | seriously... |
| 22:58.08 | xf_merc | Ahh, I'm confusing qualcomm with widcomm |
| 22:58.10 | arrrghhh | might as well be the same company |
| 22:58.30 | xf_merc | Yeah, pretty much |
| 23:08.55 | xf_merc | Is the desire's tree based on the same one as the nexus one? |
| 23:09.01 | xf_merc | Or are they unrelated? |
