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| 00:36.15 | xf_merc | Are the GNU/Linux crowd on the HD2 still having trouble with bluetooth? |
| 00:36.38 | xf_merc | Because I recall it having worked to some extent on some firmware I had |
| 00:36.46 | xf_merc | it broke wifi horribly, but bluetooth ran. |
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| 06:57.56 | seb82 | morning (well it's morning here, good day for the rest0 |
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| 07:11.20 | seb82 | right back on track... |
| 07:14.56 | seb82 | only to find a new issue while trying to run the test system in qemu, it looks for an sd-card to boot from... lol |
| 07:20.19 | seb82 | making my own initrd works so far, but it doesn't seem to work... |
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| 07:44.26 | xf_merc | How are you getting on seb82? |
| 07:44.35 | seb82 | not well... |
| 07:45.21 | seb82 | using someone else initrd causes the Waiting for SD CARD... some I tried to build my own... which is build but doesn't work... |
| 07:45.54 | xf_merc | Is this on the HD2? |
| 07:46.57 | seb82 | no in qemu... I need to test it before I will actually run it on my phone |
| 07:47.33 | xf_merc | Ahhh, chances are you've just got the wrong initrd altogether then |
| 07:47.40 | xf_merc | you need to use the one for versatile |
| 07:48.21 | xf_merc | try this one http://people.debian.org/~aurel32/qemu/armel/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-versatile |
| 07:50.13 | seb82 | thats why I'll try mine first.. |
| 07:50.19 | seb82 | now packing it up... |
| 07:53.22 | seb82 | here goes nothing... |
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| 07:54.54 | seb82 | no avail... so i will try yours |
| 07:56.27 | seb82 | that works so far... |
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| 07:57.06 | seb82 | it works... but it can't access tty... |
| 07:57.47 | seb82 | trying to run init=/init |
| 07:57.52 | xf_merc | which initrd are you using? the one i linked? |
| 07:57.58 | seb82 | yes |
| 07:58.15 | seb82 | the targeted filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init |
| 07:59.08 | xf_merc | is this the same filesystem that you used debootstrap on, but couldnt get chroot to work with? |
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| 08:00.04 | Cotulla | hi |
| 08:00.43 | seb82 | xf_merc, yes |
| 08:00.45 | seb82 | hi Cotulla |
| 08:00.52 | Cotulla | again u :P |
| 08:01.03 | seb82 | wot? |
| 08:01.34 | xf_merc | seb82: the reason you're having trouble is likely because the debootstrap installer wasnt able to do the package postconfig because of the chroot error |
| 08:01.54 | seb82 | yes indeed... so how can I run it in chroot then? |
| 08:02.58 | xf_merc | have a look here, I think you need to start at about instruction number 5 |
| 08:02.59 | xf_merc | http://wiki.debian.org/EmDebian/CrossDebootstrap#Cross-installing_Debian_using_debootstrap.2BAC8-multistrap |
| 08:04.29 | seb82 | qemu-user-static was missing... |
| 08:04.51 | xf_merc | pull it in with apt |
| 08:05.05 | Cotulla | OMG |
| 08:05.10 | seb82 | is already in... |
| 08:05.17 | seb82 | wot Cotulla :) ? |
| 08:05.42 | Cotulla | still this |
| 08:05.42 | abomicho | hello is it good place to ask about htc desire ... |
| 08:06.05 | Cotulla | is it just disrespect? |
| 08:06.41 | seb82 | I used to be stubborn and not ask help on the matter... |
| 08:06.50 | seb82 | we all make mistakes... |
| 08:07.05 | Cotulla | I means |
| 08:07.12 | Cotulla | why it always so difficult to build |
| 08:07.28 | seb82 | because we read to fast... and then forget stuff... |
| 08:07.53 | Cotulla | dunno |
| 08:07.59 | Cotulla | it always make me crazy |
| 08:08.18 | seb82 | sorry on my behalf on that |
| 08:08.19 | Cotulla | I never understand them actually |
| 08:08.30 | Cotulla | who release projects with binary output and etc |
| 08:08.37 | Cotulla | "grab and compile it itself" |
| 08:08.39 | Cotulla | wtf |
| 08:08.41 | Cotulla | I want to use |
| 08:08.56 | Cotulla | I don't want to fuck with command line switches |
| 08:09.10 | seb82 | you just want everything done and running |
| 08:09.17 | seb82 | 'plug and play' so to speak |
| 08:09.21 | Cotulla | often yes |
| 08:09.23 | Cotulla | like QEMU |
| 08:09.26 | Cotulla | why I need compile it |
| 08:09.27 | seb82 | I agree ont hat |
| 08:09.29 | Cotulla | if I just need run it |
| 08:09.32 | Cotulla | or same ur debian |
| 08:09.47 | Cotulla | who stops them from making generic packages for x86 x64 and arm etc |
| 08:10.02 | Cotulla | who wants to extend something can always download sources and rebuild |
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| 08:10.20 | Cotulla | even I don't think different cpus are important |
| 08:10.31 | Cotulla | because legacy armv4 code will work on any arm cpu |
| 08:10.45 | Cotulla | about extra optimization - well if somebody want he can compile for armv7 |
| 08:12.08 | seb82 | indeed |
| 08:12.21 | seb82 | well just for the record... my build is finally working in qemu |
| 08:12.45 | Cotulla | two daYS |
| 08:13.15 | xf_merc | Eh, it takes me 4 hours to build them using just QEMU, looks like debootstrap saves you a lot of waiting around. |
| 08:14.01 | xf_merc | It's still a hassle though, I fully agree. |
| 08:16.25 | seb82 | yuppers because I can't do postconfig... |
| 08:16.43 | xf_merc | Still not working? |
| 08:17.14 | seb82 | I'm in chroot... but i can't do much |
| 08:18.55 | xf_merc | This is where the internet makes things a pain. |
| 08:19.06 | xf_merc | I have a working root image, but its massive, 1.3gigs |
| 08:19.38 | xf_merc | If BT weren't so shitty on upload speeds I could send it to you. |
| 08:19.56 | seb82 | I can't do the dpkg --configure -a |
| 08:20.02 | seb82 | gives me a #flood warning, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 3 package 'dpkg': |
| 08:20.02 | seb82 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:24.38 | xf_merc | Hm |
| 08:28.20 | xf_merc | That seems rather odd. |
| 08:28.51 | seb82 | why? |
| 08:29.11 | xf_merc | I can't imagine why debootstrap would have given you busted status files |
| 08:29.35 | seb82 | don't either |
| 08:30.29 | xf_merc | This webpage is a little confusing |
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| 08:36.59 | xf_merc | Cotulla: does the alsa driver on your site have to be compiled as a module, or is the wiki telling lies? |
| 08:38.22 | seb82 | I'll restart on the file then... |
| 08:39.18 | xf_merc | seb82: Yeah, I think you might have to :( |
| 08:39.23 | seb82 | no prob |
| 08:41.44 | jbb | how complete is the hd2 port of android 2.3? |
| 08:42.57 | seb82 | xf_merc, I can't unmount the rootfs... |
| 08:43.12 | seb82 | outside chroot that is... |
| 08:47.10 | xf_merc | How'd you mean? |
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| 08:48.41 | seb82 | I've mounted the rootfs.ext4 via mount loop...but I can't unmount it because it's busy... but I wouldn't know where... |
| 08:50.32 | xf_merc | tried doing a fuser on it? |
| 08:52.22 | Cotulla | Ololo, Ololo, I am driver of UFO! |
| 08:53.02 | Cotulla | xf_merc, I will tell u |
| 08:53.06 | Cotulla | I never compiled it as module |
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| 08:59.00 | xf_merc | Cotulla: good, because I couldn't get it to compile as a module. |
| 08:59.22 | Cotulla | why everyone wasnts to compile it as module |
| 08:59.33 | Cotulla | I guess u 4th who ask about it |
| 09:00.47 | xf_merc | Cotulla: I was only trying since that's what the wiki said, I don't like modules as a rule, they're just more shit to copy to my system |
| 09:00.59 | Cotulla | wiki <--- GNUtoo + dcordes work |
| 09:01.07 | Cotulla | I even don't have account on wiki |
| 09:01.13 | Cotulla | because I am lazy very |
| 09:01.23 | Cotulla | when I developed ALSA |
| 09:01.31 | Cotulla | I spend 90% of time to kill lazy before |
| 09:01.33 | Cotulla | then finished it |
| 09:01.37 | Cotulla | :( |
| 09:04.30 | xf_merc | Ugh, why in the name of christ is my touchscreen acting like a touchpad? |
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| 09:13.26 | xf_merc | Cotulla: One last question, I promise :P, which kernel source was the ALSA driver made for? Been having a little trouble with some undefined functions... |
| 09:24.23 | Cotulla | evo |
| 09:24.27 | Cotulla | but there one part is missing |
| 09:24.32 | Cotulla | u need fix it |
| 09:25.18 | xf_merc | Which bit? |
| 09:25.36 | xf_merc | I found the backslashes in the include... |
| 09:25.52 | Cotulla | yeah replace them |
| 09:25.55 | Cotulla | I am using cygwin |
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| 09:26.54 | xf_merc | Ahh, that explains that then |
| 09:28.26 | xf_merc | Which is the bit that needs fixing? |
| 09:37.27 | Cotulla | yes |
| 09:37.33 | Cotulla | or older version] |
| 09:38.38 | xf_merc | Huh? |
| 09:43.22 | seb82 | working on the new rootfs... |
| 09:43.50 | xf_merc | best of luck seb |
| 09:44.28 | seb82 | thx... |
| 09:44.49 | seb82 | It states i'm missing a keyring... |
| 09:45.55 | xf_merc | that might be the gpgs for the packages, is there an option to contiunue anyway? |
| 09:46.26 | seb82 | indeed it's about gpg |
| 09:46.52 | seb82 | but the multistrap system was successfully installed... |
| 09:47.56 | xf_merc | sounds like good news |
| 09:48.54 | seb82 | and we're chrooted... |
| 09:49.22 | seb82 | dpkg --configure -a is working |
| 09:50.16 | seb82 | great already have locale problems... |
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| 09:51.17 | seb82 | besides locale, so fare so good |
| 09:54.31 | seb82 | geezh... failures to fetch index files, while trying to run apt-get... |
| 09:56.40 | Cotulla | it's some kinda linux style |
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| 09:57.18 | xf_merc | Haha, it's character-building ;) |
| 09:58.38 | seb82 | restarting with some enhancements... |
| 09:58.59 | seb82 | wot is erlang-nox? |
| 09:59.32 | xf_merc | not a clue. |
| 10:00.15 | xf_merc | Apparently it's a |
| 10:00.30 | xf_merc | "Concurrent, real-time, distributed functional language" |
| 10:00.35 | xf_merc | Whatever the hell that is. |
| 10:00.41 | seb82 | do we need it? |
| 10:00.59 | xf_merc | It's not installed on my laptop, so I guess not. |
| 10:01.07 | seb82 | kk... then we won't... |
| 10:01.21 | seb82 | something some script for multistrap provided... |
| 10:01.51 | seb82 | no install issues this time... |
| 10:02.20 | seb82 | and chrooted again... this time we have a name... root |
| 10:03.22 | seb82 | as soon as it installs dash... the issues begin with locale... |
| 10:04.34 | xf_merc | that's because dash pulls in libc6 which breaks locales |
| 10:05.22 | xf_merc | locales seems fairly obsolete. |
| 10:06.14 | xf_merc | no wait |
| 10:06.41 | xf_merc | your locales version must be greater than 2.11 |
| 10:06.48 | xf_merc | try updating that first, if it will let you |
| 10:09.13 | xf_merc | also, seb82, I can't help but think that this discussion should probably be on ##debian-arm so that we don't clog up this channel with stuff most people are gonna find irrelevant... |
| 10:09.35 | seb82 | so shall we move to debian-arm? |
| 10:09.47 | seb82 | lol |
| 10:10.16 | xf_merc | probably a good plan |
| 10:29.32 | xf_merc | Cotulla: done a clean clone of the evo branch, but im seeing undefined refs to q6audio_set_tx_volume etc on the ALSA driver, am I missing a bit here? |
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| 10:58.20 | Cotulla | dunno |
| 10:58.33 | Cotulla | u need old file |
| 10:59.36 | Cotulla | http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/Linux/ALSA_FIRST.rar |
| 10:59.37 | Cotulla | this maybe |
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| 11:13.15 | xf_merc | Okay thanks, ill give it a shot |
| 11:39.06 | XeKToReX | Cotulla, any word on magldr for legacy phones? |
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| 11:48.18 | Cotulla | ? |
| 11:50.46 | Cass | yeah i nede magldr on my magician :) |
| 11:51.15 | Cotulla | lol Cass |
| 11:51.16 | Cotulla | hi |
| 11:51.20 | Cotulla | how are u |
| 11:51.30 | Cass | hiya .. yeah im fine .. you ? |
| 11:51.40 | Cotulla | got a cold . . . |
| 11:51.42 | Cass | been lurking since hd2 died |
| 11:51.42 | Cotulla | :( |
| 11:51.51 | Cotulla | how it was? :( |
| 11:51.55 | Cass | yeah cold are crap |
| 11:52.07 | Cass | got a bluescreen .. htc broke it more on repair |
| 11:52.14 | Cass | i got hd7 instead |
| 11:52.17 | Cotulla | they give new? |
| 11:52.24 | Cass | nah i got one from carrier |
| 11:52.32 | Cotulla | hd7 |
| 11:52.33 | Cass | i threw in bin when they refused to repair |
| 11:52.35 | Cotulla | it's not hd2 |
| 11:52.41 | Cass | nope never will be |
| 11:52.46 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 11:52.48 | Cotulla | stupid device |
| 11:52.51 | Cotulla | I don't like it |
| 11:52.58 | Cotulla | :P |
| 11:52.59 | Cass | yeah its why i got a sensation quickly after ;) |
| 11:53.20 | Cotulla | hehe |
| 11:53.32 | Cass | i still keep the hd7 around in hope of some android fun |
| 11:54.37 | XeKToReX | stupid sd cards on wp7 phones |
| 11:54.43 | XeKToReX | kinda over my Trophy... |
| 11:55.28 | Cotulla | android fun? wtf |
| 11:55.32 | Cotulla | sell it better and by DHD |
| 11:55.40 | Cotulla | ;) |
| 11:56.05 | Cass | nah my sensation will do for that .. just prefer to keep it until i can make it do something its not supposed to :P |
| 11:56.40 | Cass | im sure once you chaps figure out all that naitive code stuffs then haret will work :) |
| 11:57.10 | Cotulla | it just stupid idea to port android to that . . . |
| 11:57.16 | Cotulla | why we need android there? |
| 11:57.27 | Cotulla | better putter efforts in other development |
| 11:57.28 | XeKToReX | "make it do something its not supposed to :P" |
| 11:57.33 | Cass | we dont .. but why need it anywere |
| 11:57.46 | Cotulla | nobody need it anywere :) |
| 11:57.53 | Cass | exactly .. its all fun |
| 11:57.55 | Cotulla | it's fantasy of users |
| 11:58.13 | Cass | there is no android |
| 11:58.35 | Cotulla | yes and it's good |
| 11:58.39 | Cotulla | android annoying |
| 11:58.54 | Cass | lol same old Cotulla :) |
| 11:58.55 | Cotulla | I start not like it now |
| 11:59.16 | Cass | you never liked it |
| 12:00.27 | Cotulla | it was neutral position |
| 12:00.35 | Cotulla | but now it go to minus a bit |
| 12:00.55 | Cass | :) |
| 12:01.43 | Cass | gotta go .. good speaking to you again .. later !! |
| 12:02.54 | Cotulla | bb |
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| 12:12.17 | xf_merc | Cotulla, is the static array stuff for the audio firmware still around? I'm being bugged for htcleo.acdb but I have no idea where to put it... |
| 12:14.52 | xf_merc | Actually I'll try using the android standard path in my initrd first.. |
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| 13:58.59 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], yo |
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| 14:27.45 | arrrghhh | phh, so this patch is OK? http://lists.xdandroid.com/pipermail/xdandroid-dev/attachments/20110512/55f8f788/attachment.ksh |
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| 16:33.44 | alexst | [acl]: hey |
| 16:34.10 | [acl] | sup dood.. new name ? |
| 16:34.33 | alexst | [acl]: well. looks like i've left a copy of xchat somewhere deep in background ;) |
| 16:34.42 | [acl] | dang |
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| 16:35.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | damn |
| 16:35.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | look like i've killed the wrong xchat |
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| 16:39.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: qcom guys said that they really do not want msm7k stuff in mainline (because mainline is switching to flattened device tree and because newer SoCs have unified RPC interface unlike winmo). so we'll have to keep our fork any way. i think we should port the rest of devices to my 35 branch and use it as the official xdandroid kernel in future |
| 16:40.19 | [acl] | dang |
| 16:40.25 | [acl] | msm7k too old huh |
| 16:41.24 | [acl] | which devices are left to port to .35? i know emwe has rhod and topaz covered. You have kov.. so blac, diam and rhap? |
| 16:42.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | the problem is that emwe is really behind my tree. since now my tree is almost finished (all stuff works on kovs), i propose that i steal rhod and topa from emwe's tree and then we base the 35 branch on my tree instead of emwe's. |
| 16:44.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | i guess i'll start working on porting other devices soon. just need someone to test rhod |
| 16:44.39 | [acl] | once emwe returns from his vacay i guess we can play catch up. |
| 16:45.34 | [acl] | i know the bcm driver is something missing on rhod for .35. so that is a big party pooper |
| 16:45.42 | [acl] | otherwise people happy with it. |
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| 16:56.54 | arrrghhh | did you see the wave of commits from emwe? |
| 16:56.59 | arrrghhh | if he's not back, he's workin hard at least :P |
| 16:57.03 | arrrghhh | there was like 1100+ |
| 16:58.17 | [acl] | didnt look.. but i shall.. maybe he is just attacking from vacation lol |
| 16:58.24 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 16:58.26 | arrrghhh | got bored i guess |
| 16:58.30 | [acl] | dang |
| 16:59.19 | arrrghhh | these rubes want NAN |
| 16:59.21 | arrrghhh | NAND* |
| 16:59.25 | arrrghhh | even if it doesn't work :P |
| 16:59.54 | [acl] | im getting emails again about help |
| 17:00.04 | arrrghhh | great... |
| 17:00.12 | [acl] | no people asking me for help |
| 17:00.13 | [acl] | lol |
| 17:00.16 | [acl] | its annoying |
| 17:00.20 | arrrghhh | i know |
| 17:00.39 | arrrghhh | at least that's what i assumed. all sorts of tards email devs for help |
| 17:00.42 | arrrghhh | i randomly get 'em too |
| 17:00.48 | [acl] | anyways im almost ready to release a test. need to finalize something with the gsensor and should be ready for a nice alpha release |
| 17:00.56 | arrrghhh | awesome |
| 17:01.00 | arrrghhh | that's what i like to hear :D |
| 17:01.01 | [acl] | i need to get a hold of lance and nate |
| 17:01.13 | arrrghhh | i would hope nate's done with his crap... |
| 17:01.22 | [acl] | lol i know right |
| 17:01.38 | arrrghhh | only took me a month or so to buy a house :P |
| 17:02.21 | [acl] | ahh lucky |
| 17:02.27 | [acl] | took me about 6 months actually |
| 17:02.35 | arrrghhh | dang, really? |
| 17:02.38 | [acl] | dealing with a coop is a pain |
| 17:02.41 | arrrghhh | oh |
| 17:02.45 | arrrghhh | yea, i didn't have to deal with any of that. |
| 17:02.55 | arrrghhh | i was in a rush too, my landlord was losing the house i was renting lol |
| 17:02.58 | [acl] | yeah the beauty of a private house |
| 17:03.06 | [acl] | im too poor for a house .. had to settle for the apt |
| 17:03.22 | arrrghhh | NY is expensive mate, i can't even imagine. |
| 17:04.04 | [acl] | weird part is people buy this like nothing. |
| 17:04.32 | [acl] | so u see a nice 2 million dollar apt. thing usually sells pretty fast |
| 17:05.13 | arrrghhh | damn |
| 17:05.24 | arrrghhh | a 2mil house here would be INSANE |
| 17:05.33 | [acl] | nahh an apt.. not even a house |
| 17:05.44 | arrrghhh | i know... it's hard to imagine. |
| 17:05.55 | [acl] | townhouse goes for about 4 to 8mil around the west village |
| 17:06.03 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 17:06.07 | arrrghhh | that's like Aspen prices. |
| 17:06.13 | arrrghhh | as in, insane. |
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| 17:11.11 | arrrghhh | so Alex[sp3dev] - you said you fixed the acoustic poop? |
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| 17:15.26 | phh | arrrghhh: yes it's ok |
| 17:15.33 | arrrghhh | w00t |
| 17:15.46 | arrrghhh | can you push, or have you been outta the game too long? :P |
| 17:15.55 | phh | 2nd one |
| 17:15.59 | arrrghhh | Detule whipped up a test kernel with the patch in it. no explosions yet. |
| 17:16.01 | arrrghhh | k |
| 17:16.07 | arrrghhh | i'll harass [acl] instead. |
| 17:16.14 | arrrghhh | he seems to like pushing patches to .27 :P |
| 17:17.04 | [acl] | arrrghhh: wtf.. one of my commits is missing from gitorious .. or not showing up on the activities page |
| 17:17.18 | arrrghhh | i was going to ask you about that |
| 17:17.20 | [acl] | woa.. emwe with 1177 commits |
| 17:17.32 | arrrghhh | i wasn't lying... ;) |
| 17:17.46 | arrrghhh | someone commented tho that there was a new kernel, but the source hasn't changed... |
| 17:17.53 | arrrghhh | how the hell did a kernel get built? i thought it was on the same tree. |
| 17:18.04 | [acl] | i know git was down yest |
| 17:18.08 | [acl] | but that was after my commit |
| 17:18.11 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 17:18.16 | arrrghhh | yea can't push to git if it's down... lol |
| 17:18.33 | [acl] | this is it |
| 17:18.33 | [acl] | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/a51505f765c7ad84ccdfb10e848dbfcfc9a045a9 |
| 17:18.38 | [acl] | not showing in the activities log |
| 17:18.42 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 17:18.42 | arrrghhh | weird. |
| 17:18.43 | [acl] | just removed some unused code |
| 17:18.49 | arrrghhh | so what do you think about pushing that patch from wistilt2? |
| 17:18.53 | [acl] | that crap is mostly for light sensor so i took it out of headset poopy |
| 17:19.00 | [acl] | what patch ? |
| 17:19.09 | arrrghhh | http://lists.xdandroid.com/pipermail/xdandroid-dev/attachments/20110512/55f8f788/attachment.ksh |
| 17:19.44 | [acl] | nahh i veto |
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| 17:19.57 | arrrghhh | [acl], ? |
| 17:19.59 | phh | [acl]: ? |
| 17:20.16 | phh | i know i'm getting older.. but hum... what's wrong with it ? |
| 17:20.21 | arrrghhh | sarcasm... completely lost in text. |
| 17:20.31 | arrrghhh | i assume |
| 17:20.34 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], d00d |
| 17:20.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: huh? |
| 17:20.43 | [acl] | arrrghhh: i run the same frame buffer but unblank works fast |
| 17:21.00 | arrrghhh | <arrrghhh> so Alex[sp3dev] - you said you fixed the acoustic poop? |
| 17:21.01 | [acl] | i think there is a misunderstanding on how the framebuffer works with console enabled. |
| 17:21.06 | arrrghhh | [acl], hrm... |
| 17:21.21 | arrrghhh | it's in the minority |
| 17:21.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: no i did not say that. but hum. it has always worked fine on kovs |
| 17:21.31 | arrrghhh | but there's occasional times when panel wake doesn't happen quickly |
| 17:21.46 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], remember the issues i had..? I thought you said something about fixing 'em. perhaps i'm crazy. |
| 17:21.48 | [acl] | arrrghhh: yeah but thats not because of the frame buffer. |
| 17:21.52 | arrrghhh | oh |
| 17:22.13 | arrrghhh | [acl], so would the patch harm anything...? |
| 17:22.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | so emwe has merged most of my dynamic amss poop. but i have reworked it again a few days ago and removed the unused stuff. so i'll need to wait for him to merge it and see if i want to pull his stuff to my tree or the other way round |
| 17:22.47 | arrrghhh | k |
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| 17:22.54 | arrrghhh | i'm not running the acoustic on .35 |
| 17:23.18 | [acl] | arrrghhh: i dont think it will break stuff |
| 17:23.31 | arrrghhh | k, push it :P |
| 17:24.45 | [acl] | arrrghhh: nahh.. unless phh forces me or emwe does it. Im not too happy about this patch. |
| 17:24.59 | phh | [acl]: i don't know that issue enough |
| 17:25.30 | arrrghhh | [acl], i guess i'm confused as well. what makes you unhappy about the patch? if it's harmless and could potentially shorten panel wake times... |
| 17:25.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | why do we need that crap? it has broken suspend when i have applied it to 35 anyway |
| 17:25.43 | arrrghhh | olry |
| 17:25.44 | arrrghhh | orly* |
| 17:25.46 | arrrghhh | hrm... |
| 17:25.53 | [acl] | arrrghhh: yeah .. thats why. lol |
| 17:25.54 | arrrghhh | well perhaps it should stay on .27... |
| 17:25.57 | arrrghhh | damn |
| 17:26.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | iirc all the suspend troubles on 35 were eliminated by fixing the acpuclock frequency typos |
| 17:26.26 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 17:26.29 | arrrghhh | freq typos eh |
| 17:27.01 | [acl] | arrrghhh: ill take a look at the def config |
| 17:27.02 | arrrghhh | i honestly haven't given .35 a shot in quite some time. perhaps it's time again... |
| 17:27.12 | [acl] | chances are we dont have the early suspend on for console |
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| 17:27.31 | arrrghhh | [acl], it's by no means critical. Detule brought it up, and i figured anything that will help panel wake is welcome. |
| 17:27.32 | arrrghhh | alrighty |
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| 17:33.06 | [acl] | arrrghhh: actually i do ned your help and your gangs help |
| 17:33.12 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 17:33.13 | arrrghhh | my gang |
| 17:33.14 | arrrghhh | what's up? |
| 17:33.29 | [acl] | i dont think ill have time to test the prox sensor.. just busy days ahead of me |
| 17:33.38 | arrrghhh | ah |
| 17:33.49 | [acl] | so wondering if one of your kernel doods can take my patches and port it to haret and release a test kernel |
| 17:34.06 | arrrghhh | i can ask |
| 17:34.08 | [acl] | patches on on my nand git .. so they can just apply those directly |
| 17:34.13 | arrrghhh | k |
| 17:34.23 | [acl] | well not directly since some are diff so some manual labor is involved :-p |
| 17:34.29 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 17:35.03 | [acl] | i have no idea how userland works for xdandroid and prox tho |
| 17:35.17 | arrrghhh | yea... should be interesting |
| 17:35.22 | [acl] | on ginberbread it works with the basic sensors lib but froyo might be diff |
| 17:35.27 | arrrghhh | we've never really had functional prox code in the kernelt o test |
| 17:35.35 | arrrghhh | nice! |
| 17:36.14 | [acl] | i might have time friday |
| 17:36.17 | arrrghhh | k |
| 17:36.21 | [acl] | but hopefully these guys can get it out by then |
| 17:36.27 | arrrghhh | i'll see what i can drum up... for sure. |
| 17:36.32 | [acl] | so i can troubleshot and let the brethren review the patch |
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| 17:37.14 | Cotulla | lol |
| 17:37.22 | Cotulla | meego seems died fully now :) |
| 17:37.29 | [acl] | Cotulla: dang.. u killed it |
| 17:37.34 | arrrghhh | was it still alive? |
| 17:37.40 | arrrghhh | twitching perhaps. |
| 17:37.43 | Cotulla | I saw some news |
| 17:37.48 | Cotulla | that Intel won't develop it |
| 17:37.57 | arrrghhh | ah |
| 17:39.01 | Cotulla | or they lie? |
| 17:39.13 | Cotulla | http://news.download010.com/09/04/intel-and-nokia-plan-to-abandon-meego-os/ |
| 17:39.48 | Cotulla | good that I didn't start develop it again |
| 17:39.50 | arrrghhh | companies do lie Cotulla |
| 17:40.03 | Cotulla | better abandon it |
| 17:40.12 | Cotulla | who need other unsupported os . . . |
| 17:40.18 | [acl] | what we really need is google to fix that world phone thing |
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| 17:40.30 | Cotulla | [acl], huh? |
| 17:40.35 | arrrghhh | world phone thing? |
| 17:40.37 | Cotulla | it was already fault with WebOS |
| 17:40.45 | Cotulla | here same fault after release' |
| 17:40.46 | [acl] | yeah .. dont you remember that patch hyc had for userland ? |
| 17:40.52 | arrrghhh | oh right |
| 17:40.57 | arrrghhh | that was fun |
| 17:41.04 | Cotulla | what's there? |
| 17:41.20 | [acl] | problem is phone starts in gsm mode for world phones and when its switches to cdma it bombs out |
| 17:41.31 | arrrghhh | Cotulla, he had to hack some crap to get it to work with RHO_W |
| 17:41.47 | arrrghhh | it being the RIL |
| 17:41.51 | Cotulla | it just android modifiation I guess |
| 17:41.59 | Cotulla | android designed to be modified for every device |
| 17:42.07 | Cotulla | isn't it? |
| 17:42.10 | arrrghhh | and userland wasn't playing nice either... in CDMA mode we couldn't switch back to GSM |
| 17:42.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | what's the point in spending like 2-3 years and hiring about 100 developers to develop a product, then release only one device and abandon the project before the device even gets to customers? a modern way to show off? |
| 17:42.23 | Cotulla | Alex, yeah |
| 17:42.28 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], a modern way to burn money |
| 17:42.28 | Cotulla | I don't understand this too |
| 17:42.29 | [acl] | http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16479 |
| 17:42.47 | [acl] | i was spreading this around to other world phone peeps who are trying to get cyanogent suport |
| 17:42.57 | [acl] | cyano doesnt have the patch so im hoping they apply it |
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| 17:43.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | are there really many world phones? or in other words, is anyone really using cdma except USA? |
| 17:43.25 | Cotulla | do u look how htc implemented it later? |
| 17:43.29 | arrrghhh | yea, cm will apply it before google i'm sure... |
| 17:43.39 | [acl] | arrrghhh: thats what im hoping |
| 17:43.44 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], a few places. canada, venezula, china... |
| 17:43.55 | [acl] | because all the child builds will get it too makeing it better for us :-p |
| 17:43.57 | arrrghhh | i'm sure there's a handful of others. |
| 17:44.03 | arrrghhh | [acl], indeed! |
| 17:44.51 | Cotulla | epic meego |
| 17:44.54 | Cotulla | ofcourse |
| 17:45.03 | Cotulla | how much people in nokia |
| 17:45.06 | Cotulla | developed crap |
| 17:45.16 | Cotulla | or maybe they just play tetris |
| 17:45.22 | Cotulla | who knows . . . |
| 17:45.27 | arrrghhh | tetris is fun |
| 17:45.38 | Cotulla | but not for deadline |
| 17:45.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | n900 was a good phone. n9 is also nice according to prototypes.. but since nokia is now pwned by M$, there will be no more linux phones from it |
| 17:46.00 | arrrghhh | nope |
| 17:46.09 | Cotulla | it's their chance |
| 17:46.41 | Cotulla | maybe they too go deep play into linux game |
| 17:46.52 | Cotulla | so they forgot about marketing |
| 17:46.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | intel doesn't need meego because.. because it's WIntel |
| 17:47.11 | Cotulla | why somebody need meego? |
| 17:47.12 | Cotulla | at all? |
| 17:47.13 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.21 | Cotulla | even nobody need WebOS seems |
| 17:47.28 | Cotulla | which is much more complete |
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| 17:48.19 | Cotulla | why they think that somebody need another crappy os? |
| 17:48.28 | Cotulla | why they think that somebody will develop for it? |
| 17:48.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, meego was not as crappy as webos |
| 17:48.38 | arrrghhh | they hope someone will develop for it |
| 17:49.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | at least meego/maemo are compatible with existing linux software. and there are even games for n900. and some games were ported from webos |
| 17:49.17 | Cotulla | crappy |
| 17:49.21 | Cotulla | because it need more resources |
| 17:49.28 | Cotulla | and not stable |
| 17:49.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | have you used a real n9 to say it is unstable? |
| 17:49.50 | Cotulla | u call it "not crappy" only because there X11 and "compatible with existing linux software" |
| 17:49.55 | Cotulla | my friend installed on NB |
| 17:49.58 | Cotulla | tell me that it's shit |
| 17:50.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | yep |
| 17:50.26 | Cotulla | WP of course better choose . But design of new nokias is strange |
| 17:50.28 | Cotulla | I don't like them |
| 17:50.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | laptop, tablet and phone editions (UIs) are developed separately. actually laptop one is not developed at all |
| 17:50.47 | Cotulla | I saw video with N900 :) |
| 17:51.11 | Cotulla | I want to sign "Just can't get enough" sync with video :P |
| 17:51.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | and yeah. for tablets, maemo/meego are much better than android. just because of existing software. so that you can run vim, eclipse and x11 and use it for work just like some geeks use windows tablets with visual studio |
| 17:52.03 | Cotulla | people need twitter and facebook |
| 17:52.06 | Cotulla | :) |
| 17:52.10 | arrrghhh | and ANGRY BIRDS |
| 17:52.15 | Cotulla | ya |
| 17:52.33 | Cotulla | windows tables with visual studio - u n u s a b l e |
| 17:52.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: people is too general. it can refer to both geeks, white collars and social whores |
| 17:52.52 | Cotulla | but for market |
| 17:52.56 | Cotulla | it's important functions |
| 17:53.42 | Cotulla | just imagine if u give phone with SHR to user. where he will found comfortable twitter to twit? |
| 17:53.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | actually if you read forums or even comments about windows 8, you'll find out there are a lot of people who want to run a proper IDE on the tablet |
| 17:54.05 | Cotulla | it's people who "showing off" how they are cool ;) |
| 17:54.11 | Cotulla | I am already know how fucking it's |
| 17:54.20 | Cotulla | I have UMPC few years already |
| 17:54.38 | Cotulla | first of all - not enough power to compile fast |
| 17:54.47 | Cotulla | now a lot of modern projects are very big, isn't it? |
| 17:54.53 | Cotulla | so u need a lot of power to compile them |
| 17:54.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's not because of cpu |
| 17:54.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | but because of hdd |
| 17:55.05 | Cotulla | CPU too |
| 17:55.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, a dual-core tegra is faster than your 2005 umpc anyway |
| 17:55.24 | Cotulla | no |
| 17:55.33 | Cotulla | there Intel A110 |
| 17:55.39 | Cotulla | it faster than Atom |
| 17:55.45 | Cotulla | and have only 800 Mhz clock |
| 17:56.02 | Cotulla | disk io also slow |
| 17:56.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, maybe. still it's single core, right? |
| 17:56.05 | Cotulla | yes |
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| 17:56.39 | Cotulla | so both cause problems |
| 17:56.42 | Cotulla | CPUI/Disk IO |
| 17:56.47 | GNUtoo | ah alsa? |
| 17:56.51 | Cotulla | GNUtoo hi |
| 17:56.53 | GNUtoo | renice enlightenment |
| 17:56.53 | Cotulla | second issue - how to use it |
| 17:57.25 | Cotulla | GNUtoo? |
| 17:57.37 | GNUtoo | I tought you were talking about alsa |
| 17:57.40 | GNUtoo | with that: |
| 17:57.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | anyway, i do not want to argue with you here. I do not want any kind of social networking software on my devices. Neither i care about the modern market designed for complete idiots. and the fact that 1000000 idiots want twitter does not mean that i do not want a proper text editor, compiler and ham radio software on my tablet |
| 17:57.57 | GNUtoo | <Cotulla> so both cause problems |
| 17:57.59 | GNUtoo | <Cotulla> CPUI/Disk IO |
| 17:58.02 | Cotulla | no |
| 17:58.09 | Cotulla | we are talking about compilation on tables |
| 17:58.10 | Cotulla | :) |
| 17:58.25 | Cotulla | default onscreen keyboard don't have {} [] with fast access and etc. custom keyboards maybe have it. but it still without proper feedback |
| 17:58.28 | GNUtoo | ok |
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| 17:58.33 | Cotulla | as well screen is small |
| 17:58.35 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, ! |
| 17:58.42 | WisTilt2 | yo! |
| 17:58.43 | Cotulla | hard to see a lot of code there |
| 17:58.55 | arrrghhh | thought you were MIA there... that was quite a vaca, eh? |
| 17:58.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: 10'' 1280x800 is what most netbooks have |
| 17:59.01 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 17:59.07 | Cotulla | only few people code on netbooks |
| 17:59.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | but yeah, that sucks |
| 17:59.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | i have 1680x1050 on my laptop and want a second display |
| 17:59.22 | Cotulla | even I think they spend 2 hours instead 1 hour with normal PC |
| 17:59.43 | Cotulla | or imagine how to press F8 F9 :) |
| 17:59.55 | Cotulla | to debug something |
| 17:59.58 | Cotulla | or it halts |
| 18:00.05 | Cotulla | and u need use keys to kill |
| 18:00.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | what's the problem with an on-screen keyboard? |
| 18:00.25 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: hi all. yeah extended summer vacation, now back to office for a bit. been back a week and dealing with my business. |
| 18:00.40 | Cotulla | no feedback, it can halts too, as well it occupy part of screen |
| 18:01.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: actually 'no feedback' is worse than that. Too bad most modern phones not only have no keyboard but even no hardware buttons, they use capacitive touchscreen area |
| 18:01.37 | Cotulla | so my conclusion: coding on the tablet - it's just fantasy of some people. who wanna say in the comments how they want to be cool to code at any place. even in the toilet. |
| 18:01.52 | Cotulla | I means I don't look to keyboard now |
| 18:02.15 | Cotulla | but my fingers know how some places of keyboard are looking |
| 18:02.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, actually tablet is a stupid thing if it is not a transformer or does not have usb to connect a keyboard |
| 18:02.15 | WisTilt2 | [acl]: guess your server has been down a few days. we had electrician doing some wiring in the old server closet where your server and our other autobuild servers is and they have had no juice! They should be back online in another hour or so. |
| 18:02.19 | Cotulla | so I can detect right keys |
| 18:02.39 | Cotulla | so onscreen keyboard |
| 18:02.51 | Cotulla | case A: u need look to both keyboard and to the text |
| 18:03.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: ffuuu? http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6258/201107191412091280x800s.png |
| 18:03.10 | Cotulla | case B: u don't look to keyboard, but looks only to text. but it still very annoying. |
| 18:03.45 | Cotulla | 1) no [] {} on the keyboard ;) |
| 18:03.59 | Cotulla | 2) too small input area. u may need scroll a lot of to understand anything in the code. |
| 18:04.42 | Cotulla | it's nothing for code with proper formating - just 15 lines |
| 18:05.13 | Cotulla | or just imagine |
| 18:05.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | actually what i want is a fullscreen transparent keyboard overlay. i had this thing on some old chinese tablet (it was using composition in xorg) but dunno if anything like that is available now |
| 18:05.16 | Cotulla | copy and paste :D |
| 18:05.33 | Cotulla | it always slow |
| 18:05.41 | Cotulla | on such kind devices |
| 18:06.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: tegra2 is faster than a single-core atom |
| 18:06.11 | Cotulla | not sure |
| 18:06.18 | Cotulla | there no division at least and etc |
| 18:06.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | there's VFP if you need division for multimedia |
| 18:06.32 | Cotulla | in different kind of tasks |
| 18:06.40 | Cotulla | it can be faster |
| 18:06.54 | Cotulla | but it's not possible to make complex measure |
| 18:06.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's not because tegra is good but because atom sucks |
| 18:07.02 | Cotulla | yes |
| 18:07.18 | Cotulla | but I am talking about UI issues |
| 18:07.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | atom is in-order.. ffuuu. it is like pentium 1 overclocked to 2ghz |
| 18:07.29 | Cotulla | it's why I won't buy tablet for any kind of work |
| 18:07.33 | Cotulla | only for fun maybe |
| 18:08.03 | Cotulla | Something like Sony P is much better for coding |
| 18:08.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: i bought tablet to read PDF/DJVU when going home by train. because eink readers do not have powerful cpu to render pdf quickly and 10 inch readers are as expensive as a tablet |
| 18:11.17 | Cotulla | okay |
| 18:11.20 | Cotulla | is it fast there? xD |
| 18:11.24 | GNUtoo | why do you code on the target? |
| 18:11.28 | [acl] | WisTilt2: its all good bro.. i know peeps complained about it but i knew you were out on vaca |
| 18:11.29 | GNUtoo | ssh.... |
| 18:11.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: yep, pretty fast |
| 18:11.57 | Cotulla | even i7 2600 can't show some PDFs smoothly |
| 18:12.09 | Cotulla | with official Adobe Reader |
| 18:12.13 | Cotulla | so crappy software |
| 18:12.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | adobe reader sucksw |
| 18:12.23 | Cotulla | GNUtoo, Alex think that it's cool ;) |
| 18:12.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | actually i'm using evince on desktop (because it has nice UI). but you should try xpdf and mupdf. they render like 10 times faster than anything else |
| 18:12.54 | GNUtoo | it's cool when you're on the go |
| 18:13.16 | Cotulla | for W7? |
| 18:13.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, it's not even about UI |
| 18:13.37 | Cotulla | btw on ur screenshot there at the left |
| 18:13.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'm using evince because it allows to view pdf from browser |
| 18:13.40 | Cotulla | three small buttons |
| 18:13.50 | Cotulla | minimize maximize |
| 18:13.52 | Cotulla | and something else |
| 18:13.58 | Cotulla | are they really usable with such size? |
| 18:14.06 | Cotulla | looks crazy |
| 18:14.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: they are but i'm using another theme with larger buttons now |
| 18:14.21 | Cotulla | :D |
| 18:14.38 | Cotulla | OMG view pdf from browser - the main evil in the world |
| 18:15.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: what's wrong with that? you can save it if it is worth reading later |
| 18:15.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: http://code.google.com/p/mupdf/downloads/list |
| 18:17.00 | WisTilt2 | [acl]: when you get a chance, check and make sure your server is up. It's powered back on and should be booted up now. |
| 18:17.22 | [acl] | ok let me see if i can get in |
| 18:17.30 | Cotulla | bad |
| 18:17.31 | Cotulla | because |
| 18:17.33 | Cotulla | wrong pdf |
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| 18:17.37 | Cotulla | and all ur system hackwed |
| 18:17.46 | Cotulla | u just go to site |
| 18:18.00 | Cotulla | or ur well-known site hacked, link to pdf |
| 18:18.03 | [acl] | WisTilt2: seems to be up |
| 18:18.05 | Cotulla | and ur browser do great job |
| 18:18.10 | Cotulla | load pdf without asks |
| 18:18.12 | Cotulla | :) |
| 18:18.14 | Cotulla | fuuu |
| 18:18.17 | [acl] | WisTilt2: now for a true test.. a nice compile |
| 18:18.18 | [acl] | :-p |
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| 18:18.34 | Cotulla | are u true [acl]? |
| 18:18.41 | [acl] | Cotulla: sometimes |
| 18:18.45 | Cotulla | lets check |
| 18:18.50 | WisTilt2 | [ac]: good deal. I need to add those servers to our 24hr monitor list so my guys can address it if they go down for whatever reason. |
| 18:18.50 | [acl] | but when i need to get those girls in the sack.. im all lies |
| 18:18.51 | Cotulla | what u eated today? |
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| 18:19.11 | [acl] | Cotulla; teriaky salmon |
| 18:19.22 | Cotulla | omg |
| 18:21.37 | [acl] | Cotulla: what did you eat ? |
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| 18:25.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | fucking wifi. let's see if wimax is more stable here |
| 18:25.19 | arrrghhh | wimax? |
| 18:25.24 | arrrghhh | in soviet russia? |
| 18:25.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: fuck yeah |
| 18:25.40 | [acl] | cccp-max |
| 18:26.10 | arrrghhh | really? you guys weren't supposed to use CDMA :P |
| 18:26.15 | arrrghhh | even tho, i know, it's not CDMA... |
| 18:26.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: did you know that the first htc phone with wimax was made only for russia? |
| 18:26.47 | [acl] | damn |
| 18:26.47 | arrrghhh | really? |
| 18:26.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | yep |
| 18:26.52 | arrrghhh | don't lie to me |
| 18:26.52 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 18:26.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | htc quartz (max 4g) |
| 18:26.58 | arrrghhh | huh |
| 18:27.00 | [acl] | googe it !! |
| 18:27.24 | WisTilt2 | Alex[sp3dev] what band does wimax run on over there? |
| 18:27.28 | arrrghhh | it even looks russian lol |
| 18:27.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | WisTilt2: good question to google |
| 18:27.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | 2.5 ghz |
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| 18:28.09 | arrrghhh | Yota Mobile WiMAX 2.5-2.7 GHz |
| 18:28.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: exactly |
| 18:28.17 | arrrghhh | fail. |
| 18:28.25 | arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Quartz |
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| 18:28.42 | arrrghhh | emwe, ! |
| 18:28.45 | emwe | meep |
| 18:28.46 | [acl] | damn |
| 18:28.47 | arrrghhh | everyone is joining the party |
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| 18:29.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: looks like you worked hard during the holidays |
| 18:29.19 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: just the .35.14 longterm merges. |
| 18:29.36 | emwe | and some post stuff as module inits where fscked up and had no sound |
| 18:29.37 | [acl] | i feel like all the constructicons are here.. now we can form devastator !! |
| 18:30.02 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 18:30.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: i have reworked my dynamic amss two days ago.. (dropped the unused string lookup functions). the question is what shall we do next - shall i port my stuff to your tree or the other way round? i want to migrate all xdandroid devices to 35 |
| 18:30.05 | arrrghhh | transformer tiem |
| 18:30.41 | dcordes | xf_merc: check wiki |
| 18:31.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | repo is syncing at 819 KiB/s. while on wifi at the dorm it is only 44 KiB/s now when everyone is using it |
| 18:31.21 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: if you can live with htc_hw (required for RIL), android-msm and longterm merges and me trying to get the kernel in a usable state for daily use then i am fine doing merges if you merge back. |
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| 18:31.51 | emwe | seems i am now stable with deadline scheduler. cfq brought it down/to stall quite often. |
| 18:31.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: why is htc_hw required for ril? i'm using hyc's ril without it just fine |
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| 18:32.10 | emwe | just smd7 detection isn't enough as raph800 CDMA-only exposes smd7 as well |
| 18:32.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | well. first off, raph is not even fully ported to 35 yet |
| 18:32.55 | [acl] | hyc's rill still queries htc_hw for cdma and gsm detection |
| 18:33.00 | emwe | that doesn't matter if it's ported or not. |
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| 18:33.26 | emwe | if i am going spend quite some time rebasing and porting, live with crap you don't stand. |
| 18:33.41 | emwe | sorry of that sounded harsh. |
| 18:33.46 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 18:33.52 | arrrghhh | wb emwe ;) |
| 18:34.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | and we have not even spoken about rpc battery driver. okay. let us have crap as long as we do not have crap like microp and use acoustic instead of qdsp hacks |
| 18:35.49 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: yeah, ok. it's a bit tedious always catching up with you. if you are fine with me tinkering from time to time - as i use this beast as my daily phone, just not for fun - then i am going to start a rebase. |
| 18:36.04 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: do you actually use the kovs as a daily phone with android? |
| 18:36.05 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: rpc? werent you mr anti rpc? lol.. |
| 18:36.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: i meant that the battery driver for non-kovs is crap. yeah, it's smem, not rpc probably |
| 18:36.50 | [acl] | :-p |
| 18:36.53 | [acl] | just busting chops |
| 18:37.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: no i am not. i'm not sure i'm using it except as mp3 player even with winmo |
| 18:37.51 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: i see. i rather kept features/board to a minimum if that thing doesn't survive a day. |
| 18:38.11 | [acl] | i can use sip phone on gb finally :-p .. no need for no stinkin service |
| 18:38.12 | emwe | it's still not cool - especially io - but it's up since sunday now without a stall |
| 18:38.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: so. i'll clone htc-linux and try to check the differences. the imporant thing is that i have recently ported sdio from linux 3.0 and fixed wifi on 35. just userspace needs a bit of work |
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| 18:39.17 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: shouldn't be too many diffs. perhaps just cosmetics. of course the recent sdio stuff and your 2nd amss/qdsp iteration is not in. |
| 18:39.54 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: what branch to start from? not the experimental one, or? |
| 18:40.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: yep, most diffs are only to clean up camera driver (i was working on a v4l2 implementation but that's in another branch) |
| 18:40.21 | emwe | android-msm then i take it? |
| 18:40.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: android-2.6.35. experimental is now de-androidified. it is for SHR and features ALSA support |
| 18:40.34 | emwe | ok |
| 18:41.16 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: btw, can we switch around that smd.hot_boot param default to 1? so we don't have to have all hareters add another param |
| 18:41.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: sure |
| 18:41.30 | emwe | and for nand, put that thing into an ATAG or in kernel cmdline |
| 18:41.47 | emwe | ok, neato. |
| 18:41.49 | Detule | [acl], your Sept 14 commits to haret ? |
| 18:41.59 | [acl] | Detule: huh? |
| 18:42.15 | [acl] | Detule: you care yo explain yourself my good man |
| 18:42.26 | Detule | [acl], trying to figure out which commits out of your nand tree you want cherrypicked |
| 18:42.43 | [acl] | whatever says prox sensor |
| 18:42.46 | [acl] | there is about 3 i think |
| 18:42.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: since qcom said they do not want msm7k in vanilla and for SHR i'm using a separate branch, you can use any hacks you want except old microp |
| 18:42.53 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: btw, you got 6125 acoustic working with your .27 integration? i had to fixup a bit in adsp6125.c to get it to work because it was a 1:1 5225 copy |
| 18:42.58 | [acl] | Detule: they are in order so it doesnt break any autobulds |
| 18:43.19 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: i am microp-ng'ish already... just the led stuff is a bit hackish for rhod+topa now. |
| 18:43.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: if you have a device to test, you're welcome to fix adsp tables |
| 18:43.41 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: it's fixed in my branch. took a while until i figured and got sound working again. |
| 18:43.46 | [acl] | Detule: it starts with "update gpio list for prox and tv out" |
| 18:43.52 | [acl] | Detule: and everything after that |
| 18:43.59 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: mainly acoustic offset some rpc endpoing and adsp interrupt iirc. |
| 18:44.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: i guess i'll have to look into it. most changes to qdsp5 were cosmetic but one in one of the recent changes i changed tables to be initialized like { [x] = y} so that they don't break when headers are modified |
| 18:45.27 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: yeah, i saw your commit fest :) |
| 18:45.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | sounds like poop fest |
| 18:47.11 | Detule | [acl], i take it that defconfig change needs to go in the haret config |
| 18:47.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: btw, cm7 is nearly cloned (connection has failed numerous times). i've found an advice to use omapzoom git instead of kernel.org for missing stuff |
| 18:47.35 | emwe | [acl]: btw, regaring that msm_fb.c patch, on topa it always reached the maximum failcnt (5 iirc). if it helps on rhod, topa needs some love for panel init it seems. |
| 18:48.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: maybe some init is broken in panel code? on kovs everything's fine |
| 18:49.11 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: rhod and topa are quite identical. rhod was based on topa and then revised. some differences might be there. especially init sequences are quite shorter for rhod. |
| 18:49.18 | [acl] | emwe: i need to take a look at the defconfig. not sure if early suspend was enaled and if it was, do we have console early suspend. if not the fb switching goes crazy. this bcame more clear to me during the move to gb. so ill look into it |
| 18:49.52 | emwe | [acl]: thanks. (btw that test was on .27 with topa and froyo iirc, long time ago) |
| 18:49.54 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: yeah everyone has hax to sync. luckily i synced right before so have the latest 2.3.5_r1 |
| 18:50.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: yeah, early suspend is needed. msm fb suspend was broken. had to remove that earlysuspend and implement proper fbioblank for shr |
| 18:50.11 | [acl] | Detule: yes.. the CAPELLA shit needs to go on |
| 18:50.28 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: yeah i think we are talking about the same thing. |
| 18:51.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | i wonder if android supports fbioblank |
| 18:51.20 | [acl] | msm_fb suspend wont work unles console is disabled |
| 18:51.48 | [acl] | lot of hacks actually.. blame google |
| 18:51.52 | [acl] | they made this weird setup |
| 18:52.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | looks like it does. i can test my fbioblank thingie on android. if it works, let emwe test it. maybe it's what we need |
| 18:52.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | now the problem is to connect usb. the damn wimax dongle is preventing access to usb ports. will need to log out to connect usb hub |
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| 18:53.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | fffuuuuu |
| 18:53.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | i've left the usb hub at home |
| 18:53.24 | [acl] | lol |
| 18:53.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | bluetooth ftw |
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| 19:19.07 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: so in a nutshell, anything new been fixed/added like acoustic,bt,etc while I was gone? I need to get back into doing something on this project before my brain turns to mush. |
| 19:19.34 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 19:19.42 | arrrghhh | well we're working on incorporating the acoustic stuff |
| 19:19.48 | arrrghhh | i'm still getting some issues with it, but others are not... |
| 19:19.56 | arrrghhh | BT is in tho |
| 19:19.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | WisTilt2: acoustic is not integrated. if you want to work on it, i can push the patches but someone needs to fix the userland library |
| 19:20.03 | arrrghhh | but without the new acoustic, it's kinda moot. |
| 19:20.38 | WisTilt2 | has acoustic support been added at all in userland? |
| 19:20.48 | arrrghhh | only in test builds |
| 19:20.53 | arrrghhh | hasn't been implemented to mainline |
| 19:21.58 | WisTilt2 | Alex[sp3dev] you have the acoustic kernel side done? .27 or .35 or both? |
| 19:22.25 | arrrghhh | both |
| 19:22.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | WisTilt2: both. there's a test prebuilt kernel. i can push the patches |
| 19:22.28 | emwe | looks like i need to do userland then if stinebd doesn't wake up. :) |
| 19:22.38 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 19:22.54 | arrrghhh | emwe, WisTilt2 - i have a full build from alex that is on .27 and the new acoustic. |
| 19:22.55 | Detule | WisTilt2, i need to pick your brain about 39 a bit |
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| 19:23.00 | arrrghhh | i'm just having random problems with it. |
| 19:23.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: i can push the library. and you'll need to figure out why it dies for arrrghhh. looks like it does not close the descriptor properly |
| 19:23.20 | Detule | something is messed up with the timer or the clocks in .39 at points, gp_timer slows down by a factor of 20 or so |
| 19:23.28 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: does your kernel have the fixed up adsp6125.c i pushed yesterday? |
| 19:23.47 | WisTilt2 | I was going to get acoustic going on .39 also if jonpry hasn't already. if no one else wants to do it i'll give it a go if you want to push what you have. |
| 19:23.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: nope. but well. the test kernel is 27 so it is not broken |
| 19:23.54 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: perhaps some issues arise from the previously wrong acoustic memory offsets. |
| 19:24.05 | Detule | WisTilt2, I think you or jonpry already have acoustic on 39 |
| 19:24.06 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i think it's already on .39... |
| 19:24.12 | arrrghhh | jonpry did IIRC |
| 19:24.41 | WisTilt2 | Detule we started it but i've been gone for 3 months so he finished it and it's working on .39 now? |
| 19:25.00 | Detule | sure, to the extent that acoustic is working on any kernel |
| 19:25.01 | WisTilt2 | what userland libs is working with it? |
| 19:25.16 | Detule | i am using hyc's 06+ build which might be a slightly outdated compilation of JB's tree |
| 19:25.22 | [acl] | Detule: get back to work :-p .. |
| 19:25.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | WisTilt2: jbruneaux's libs. but i'll need to push my branch. some makefiles need correction |
| 19:25.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | https://gitorious.org/~ast/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/alex-linux-xperia/commits/27-acoustic-integration |
| 19:26.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | so. notice the dev entry is now renamed to /dev/htc_acoustic_wince |
| 19:26.32 | Detule | sure [acl] you don't make it easy [root@localhost htc-msm-2.6.27]# git apply rawprox1.patch |
| 19:26.32 | Detule | error: patch failed: arch/arm/mach-msm/board-htcrhodium.h:67 |
| 19:26.44 | WisTilt2 | i'll grab it and start getting up to speed and see what kind of trouble we can get into. |
| 19:27.43 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: ah now i got it. there's no dynamic adsp/amss setup. sorry. catching up with to much stuff... |
| 19:28.04 | [acl] | Detule: this is a test.. if u pass.. there is more work :-p |
| 19:28.40 | [acl] | Detule: because code isnt the same so some patches wont apply. the main ones will but not the little ones make file mods |
| 19:29.07 | WisTilt2 | Detule: WisTilt2, i need to pick your brain about 39 a bit <<--- fire away |
| 19:30.15 | Detule | WisTilt2, oh well that's it, it's a bug where gp_timer slows down to a crawl forcing the entire system to start operating at snail's pace....I can track this from my debian chroot using powertop but the gp_timer interrupts are firing much slower than 100HZ |
| 19:30.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: oops. looks like i was using the wrong branch on JB acoustic. i'll recompile the libs and let you test again |
| 19:30.23 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 19:30.25 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], ok |
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| 19:31.31 | Detule | WisTilt2, I tried to track down where it is since the 39 tree seems to be ahead of 27 in timer.c/pm.c but i haven't had much success |
| 19:31.36 | WisTilt2 | Detule: something changing gp_timer itself or does it look like an interrupt problem? |
| 19:31.59 | WisTilt2 | what condition causes it also? |
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| 19:33.07 | Detule | haven't been able to reproduce it reliably, happens after a day or two of operation...i'll just notice after it's gone to sleep for a while, that the orange led is on |
| 19:33.29 | Detule | vsync still fires at correct pace so i don't think it's a general interrupt problem |
| 19:33.45 | WisTilt2 | how much memory is available when it happens? |
| 19:34.50 | Detule | i haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary with respect to memory as reported say in top |
| 19:35.34 | Detule | i've also enabled swapping to a file on the sdcard in the hope of results with no luck |
| 19:36.59 | WisTilt2 | if the gp_timer is actually firing slower then either its clock source changed value or the isr for that interrupt isn't handling the irq's fast enough i'd think. |
| 19:37.08 | Detule | also my 39 tree is slightly ahead of jonpry's, as i've increased the memory available to vmalloc to be inline with 27 (this also has been a fruitless effort) |
| 19:38.02 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: you been not using the -dev one? |
| 19:38.14 | Detule | ok, so fortunately i can collect logs when this happens, since the phone is operating strangly, but it still works, maybe i'll send you a batch or two if you are back in business and you can see something i can't |
| 19:38.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: no. i suck, i know. i'll test it now |
| 19:38.53 | WisTilt2 | yeah that sounds like a plan. email me whatever logs you can grab during that condition. |
| 19:39.31 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: lol, nah. jb has been confused as well when i asked him. been using his -dev branch since ever iirc. |
| 19:40.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | seems to work with one quirk |
| 19:40.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | you need to change device name to htc_acoustic_wince from htc-acoustic_wince in headers |
| 19:40.55 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: yap, will take care of that then in userland. also the vendor copying stuff. will try to keep the build switch. |
| 19:41.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: you can integrate that to userland and fix vendor/device, right? |
| 19:41.55 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: yap. just merge his froyo branch. for gb i can't just merge. will have to collect up his commits and pullin somehow as i wan't to keep history. |
| 19:43.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: you can cherry-pick them.. or merge froyo to gb |
| 19:43.28 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: dunno what side effects that merge will have. hopefully none. will try. |
| 19:43.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: test time http://www.mediafire.com/?bvf7jen3xxxusrx |
| 19:43.43 | emwe | but cherry-pick of a hundred of commits gonna be tough. |
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| 19:47.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: well, you can rebase it onto jb's froyo and push to a new branch. honestly there's no need for separate hardware for froyo/gb. only gps shoud differ |
| 19:48.15 | mgross029 | Alex[sp3dev], I throw those updated libs on my Rhod500 and let you know the result... |
| 19:48.23 | Detule | random i know anybody watching the 2011 euro basket |
| 19:48.39 | mgross029 | *I'll |
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| 20:02.17 | mgross029 | Alex[sp3dev], just did a speaker phone call to my VM and the light is flashing... So it must have heard something... :) |
| 20:02.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | mgross029: is that an improvement to what we had before? |
| 20:05.56 | mgross029 | Alex[sp3dev],Yes... mic was not working at all before... |
| 20:05.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | good. jb did a really good work there |
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| 20:07.46 | mgross029 | Alex[sp3dev], Audio was clear too... No static... Going to do another test call and see if I can switch between speaker and earcup... |
| 20:07.48 | mgross029 | Alex[sp3dev], After switching to Speakerphone then back to Earcup the audio drops for Earcup, but I can put it back to Speaker and it's fine... |
| 20:07.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | meh.. i need to test myself but i don't have a second phone (well, i do have one, but no second sim card) |
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| 20:07.49 | WisTilt2 | you have the rear mic working in acoustic also? |
| 20:08.29 | mgross029 | We'll have to see how it works for arrrghhh... Maybe it will help his audio drop out problems |
| 20:09.09 | arrrghhh | time will tell |
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| 20:11.54 | mgross029 | heh |
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| 20:14.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: android does not work with fbioblank. the console resumes but it stays in console for 5 secs before android. so i've reworked it for early_suspend and will test. google's implementation was really racy and did not set wake status properly |
| 20:14.06 | [acl] | devastator !!!! |
| 20:14.21 | arrrghhh | racy |
| 20:14.23 | arrrghhh | giggity |
| 20:14.26 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: yup |
| 20:15.00 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: but the default will work fine when no console around. |
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| 20:15.50 | [acl] | wtf is going on |
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| 20:16.29 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: hmm actually you have .35.. that has a much better handling of all of this vs .27. One thing i didnt do for .27 was move over the console code. I moved msm_fb but not console. |
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| 20:17.22 | arrrghhh | [acl], freenode server maintenance. you didn't see the notices? |
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| 20:17.34 | [acl] | :-( |
| 20:18.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | i wonder wtf the touchscreen dies when i enable gps on froyo but not on gingerbread |
| 20:18.40 | [acl] | dang.. weridoo |
| 20:19.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | fucking qcom with their clock poop |
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| 20:19.31 | mgross029 | [acl] server maintenance... |
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| 20:19.54 | [acl] | cyanogen: apply this patch :-) http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16479 |
| 20:19.57 | [acl] | :-p |
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| 20:20.05 | mgross029 | This was on my status page... [15:56] -Martinp23:$$*- [Global Notice] Hi folks. It's upgrades wednesday tonight - hold on tight and please keep arms and legs inside the ride at all times. To start with we'll have a bit of rehubbing, then the following servers will restart: leguin, gibson, wolfe, hitchcock and pratchett. I'll let you know when it's all done. Thanks. |
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| 20:22.32 | Detule | [acl], you need bootcheck? |
| 20:22.57 | [acl] | huh? |
| 20:23.19 | arrrghhh | [acl], subtle, lol |
| 20:23.25 | Detule | you patched it in arch/arm/mach-msm/Makefile but bootcheck.c is not in those commits |
| 20:23.33 | [acl] | Detule: you dont need it |
| 20:23.58 | [acl] | thats for recovery only.. no need for haret.. remooove |
| 20:24.09 | [acl] | on make file you dont need any changes .. |
| 20:24.14 | [acl] | sorry i should have said that before |
| 20:24.25 | emwe | [acl]: how about nand->mainline? :P |
| 20:24.32 | [acl] | actually we do.. only remove the old prox |
| 20:24.33 | emwe | (as in htc-msm) |
| 20:24.39 | [acl] | emwe: no testing the prox sensor |
| 20:24.53 | [acl] | i wont have time to make a test build so Detule is picking commits |
| 20:24.57 | emwe | [acl]: lol, i meant that as an order. :) |
| 20:25.21 | [acl] | emwe: maybe for .35 .. not .27 .. |
| 20:26.14 | [acl] | ill test out .35 and see where we are at. without bcm working tho.. thats a party pooper |
| 20:26.45 | [acl] | Detule: so yeah did i confuse you? sorry |
| 20:27.18 | Detule | it's ok just took out prox out of the makefile |
| 20:27.31 | mgross029 | Later all... I'm out for now... Get to go battle traffic... :) |
| 20:27.35 | arrrghhh | enjoy |
| 20:27.46 | [acl] | Detule: yeah .. thanks |
| 20:28.20 | mgross029 | [acl] before I go I just had to send this to you... lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xakUmz1zwc |
| 20:28.35 | mgross029 | demo on the proximity sensor... lol |
| 20:29.14 | [acl] | mgross029: cool.. well on gb i get interrupts so i know its being called. I'm not sure how froyo sensor libs work. |
| 20:29.28 | [acl] | but from what i understand only activates in a call which i cant make since i have no service |
| 20:29.36 | [acl] | :-( |
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| 20:30.10 | [acl] | i can try with a sip call.. hmm good test i guess |
| 20:30.11 | mgross029 | Cool... Well let me know if you want me to test anything... I'd be happy to blow up another build... |
| 20:30.36 | [acl] | mgross029: Detule is preparign a test kernel .. |
| 20:30.59 | Detule | compiling... |
| 20:31.25 | mgross029 | [acl] hmmm... wonder if the hardware would recognize that as a call though... Not using the same radio right?? |
| 20:31.49 | [acl] | huh? |
| 20:32.42 | [acl] | mgross029: its kinda dumb how it works. its not active until userland enables it. When it does if something triggers it it reports back to userland and does its thing. It should also show on dmesg that it was triggered. so thats ho we will know if userland is whacky |
| 20:33.29 | mgross029 | Ahh... cool... that makes sense... |
| 20:34.30 | mgross029 | What I was referring to is CDMA phones and how they handle a data or a voice call... |
| 20:35.05 | arrrghhh | mgross029, don't overthink it :P |
| 20:35.09 | [acl] | ahh no idea.. shit is beyond me.. im just a simple guy patching kernels |
| 20:35.15 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 20:36.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | that vibration on boot is so annoying. gotta comment that |
| 20:36.35 | mgross029 | Ok... Just thinking too much as arrrghhh pointed out... :p |
| 20:37.03 | mgross029 | Which one the haret or the bootani vibrate? :) |
| 20:37.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | the haret one |
| 20:38.30 | [acl] | I bypass it when charging. only peaceful boot |
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| 20:40.16 | mgross029 | Detule, will you post a link to that test kernel in the logs? If so I'll grab it and test it out... |
| 20:42.44 | arrrghhh | Detule, don't do it, he's a spy! |
| 20:43.02 | mgross029 | lol... Yes I work for MS |
| 20:43.26 | mgross029 | I'm stealling secrets for the new and better WP... |
| 20:43.37 | arrrghhh | heh, too late. |
| 20:43.39 | mgross029 | :p |
| 20:44.08 | mgross029 | Not really... This will be the one with the Service Pack installed.... LOL |
| 20:44.16 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 20:44.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | why is it so that microsoft research is so great and microsoft is so ungreat? or actually why MS engineers are so good and MS PR managers looks so stupid on forums? |
| 20:44.32 | mgross029 | Ok... Laters... |
| 20:45.09 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], such is life in a gigantic megacorp. |
| 20:45.19 | arrrghhh | although m$ research is quite good. it always surprises me. |
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| 20:49.53 | Detule | arrrghhh, [acl] http://bit.ly/rpaxxo |
| 20:50.06 | arrrghhh | Detule, you are an animal. |
| 20:50.15 | arrrghhh | dare i ask, have you tested it? |
| 20:50.23 | [acl] | Detule: all you bro.. post it up.. and let the savages test.. |
| 20:50.31 | [acl] | if it dont work.. i have a few ideas to play with |
| 20:50.59 | arrrghhh | rebooting now... |
| 20:51.02 | [acl] | in wince microp looks like it can be used to enable the prox. but also gpio.. i chose the lesser of the two evils .. worse case new patch using microp |
| 20:53.08 | arrrghhh | jeez Detule - how many folders deep did you need to tar this kernel? :P |
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| 20:53.43 | arrrghhh | so throw on kernel, and boot? no special options? |
| 20:54.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | fffuuuuu |
| 20:54.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | froyo-dev branch of acoustic has fucked up everything on 35 for me |
| 20:54.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | music is not routed to headphones and speaker does not work in call |
| 20:55.14 | [acl] | :-p |
| 20:55.45 | arrrghhh | but it all works great on kovs right? :P |
| 20:56.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | froyo branch works great |
| 20:56.08 | arrrghhh | weird |
| 20:56.22 | Cotulla | cm7 done alex? |
| 20:56.28 | Detule | ugh that folder depth level is unfortunate |
| 20:56.39 | arrrghhh | Detule, nbd just giving you shit. |
| 20:56.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: no. at least i have managed to download it with my poor internet connection |
| 20:57.42 | Cotulla | how poor is it? |
| 20:57.50 | Detule | later punching out fellas |
| 20:58.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: when people come to the dormitory from the university and work, it drops to 40 KiB/s. and it disassociates often |
| 20:59.21 | arrrghhh | Detule, cya |
| 20:59.29 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], kick them all off |
| 21:00.08 | Cotulla | ohh |
| 21:00.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: well, the authorization and billing is tied to MAC address. so when i need to get some, i use aireplay --deauth |
| 21:00.10 | Cotulla | 40 bad :( |
| 21:00.22 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 21:00.22 | Cotulla | no it's not bad |
| 21:00.25 | Cotulla | it just sucks |
| 21:00.26 | Cotulla | :) |
| 21:00.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: but i'm not alone so no wonder the connection sucks |
| 21:01.05 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 21:01.12 | arrrghhh | i am spoiled by my net at home |
| 21:01.25 | arrrghhh | although when i was at school, the net was very fast. no wifi tho. all ethernet. |
| 21:01.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: can you stream 1080p pron? |
| 21:01.52 | arrrghhh | at home? yes. |
| 21:01.59 | arrrghhh | 20mbit down |
| 21:02.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | what else can one do at home |
| 21:02.31 | Cotulla | I have only 10 |
| 21:02.32 | Cotulla | but |
| 21:02.34 | Cotulla | upload is 2 :( |
| 21:02.40 | Cotulla | very long to upload romzz |
| 21:02.41 | Cotulla | :D |
| 21:03.28 | arrrghhh | yea, my upload is... 3mbit on a good day. |
| 21:03.53 | [acl] | thats some bawshit |
| 21:04.16 | arrrghhh | that's comcast |
| 21:05.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: this is what i have at home http://www.speedtest.net/result/1429927176.png and this is wimax http://www.speedtest.net/result/1483238581.png and i cannot make the test of wifi at the dorm without disconnecting wimax |
| 21:05.49 | Cotulla | I prefer to have 5 / 5 instead of 10 / 2 I think |
| 21:06.09 | arrrghhh | Cotulla, +1 |
| 21:06.28 | arrrghhh | there's an ISP in NC that provides 10/10, 50/50, 100/100 and even 1000/1000 if you're a business. |
| 21:06.37 | arrrghhh | (i built their head-end :D) |
| 21:06.42 | [acl] | this is why i live at work.. 100 is the only way to live |
| 21:06.49 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 21:06.53 | [acl] | anything less is uncivilized |
| 21:06.59 | Cotulla | OMG 1000/1000 |
| 21:07.01 | arrrghhh | you and wistilt2 |
| 21:07.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: yeah, we're all barbarians |
| 21:07.12 | arrrghhh | Cotulla, yea, not for residential tho :P |
| 21:07.22 | [acl] | well there is rich, and there is wistilt rich.. big difference |
| 21:07.25 | [acl] | :-p |
| 21:07.26 | arrrghhh | and it's a tiny podunk town in NC |
| 21:07.35 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 21:07.39 | arrrghhh | prox sensor test tiem |
| 21:08.06 | arrrghhh | sadface |
| 21:08.30 | arrrghhh | so you want some logs of this atrocity [acl] ? |
| 21:08.56 | [acl] | you ran it already ? |
| 21:09.00 | [acl] | jebus yall move fast |
| 21:09.07 | [acl] | yeah what do we have .. lets see it |
| 21:09.08 | arrrghhh | i just did, it failed unfortunately. prox sensor did nada. |
| 21:09.24 | arrrghhh | pulling 'em now |
| 21:09.40 | [acl] | are you adb into it now? |
| 21:09.45 | arrrghhh | i can |
| 21:09.49 | [acl] | please do |
| 21:09.49 | arrrghhh | i was being lazy and using getlogs. |
| 21:10.00 | [acl] | do a cat /proc/interrupts |
| 21:10.06 | [acl] | the last on the list should be proximity |
| 21:10.10 | [acl] | check the number next to it |
| 21:10.29 | arrrghhh | 166: 1 msmgpio capella_cm3602 |
| 21:10.30 | arrrghhh | that/ |
| 21:10.32 | arrrghhh | ? |
| 21:10.37 | [acl] | yeah |
| 21:11.01 | arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/3zdC01MT |
| 21:11.06 | [acl] | mercy |
| 21:11.17 | arrrghhh | lolcat & dmesg |
| 21:13.40 | arrrghhh | i see a lot of "mProximityListener.onSensorChanged active: false" |
| 21:13.55 | arrrghhh | so i'd assume userland ain't ready for prox yet... which wouldn't surprise me. |
| 21:14.02 | arrrghhh | perhaps we can prod stine into consciousness. |
| 21:14.22 | [acl] | not sure.. ill have to check the sensors lib.. see where we are at |
| 21:14.26 | arrrghhh | k |
| 21:14.32 | arrrghhh | lemme know what else i can do :D |
| 21:14.51 | arrrghhh | this piece of hardware actually excites me. it's a silly feature, but very nice. |
| 21:14.58 | [acl] | lol |
| 21:15.09 | arrrghhh | i hate coming off a long phone call and having to do 5 things in order to end the call... |
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| 21:32.52 | [acl] | arrrghhh: i dunno how it works on froyo :-(.. ill need to check with emwe and stine on this |
| 21:32.58 | arrrghhh | cool |
| 21:33.05 | arrrghhh | should i even test on GB? |
| 21:33.07 | arrrghhh | on HaRET? |
| 21:33.14 | [acl] | nahh |
| 21:33.19 | arrrghhh | k |
| 21:33.23 | emwe | gb has no prox support |
| 21:33.36 | arrrghhh | emwe, FroYo? same? |
| 21:33.54 | emwe | well, just fake one. no kernelland interaction for gb. froyo, dunno offhand. |
| 21:34.05 | [acl] | damn |
| 21:34.10 | arrrghhh | ah |
| 21:34.11 | emwe | wasn't there some reporing via that microp dbgfs/sysfs hook? |
| 21:34.13 | arrrghhh | fix it emwe :P |
| 21:34.22 | [acl] | lol |
| 21:35.48 | [acl] | arrrghhh: ahh i have to rewrite this beotch for harte |
| 21:36.04 | [acl] | looks like its being probed via dbgfs |
| 21:36.06 | arrrghhh | but of course... |
| 21:36.09 | arrrghhh | alrighty then |
| 21:36.41 | [acl] | sorry my good man . |
| 21:37.27 | emwe | arrrghhh: any idea why those lowmemorykiller adjustments won't take effect in *.user.conf in custom_shells? |
| 21:37.33 | arrrghhh | [acl], no worries. |
| 21:37.41 | arrrghhh | emwe, they probably will |
| 21:37.51 | emwe | don't for me. still defaults from init.*.rc |
| 21:38.47 | arrrghhh | oh... |
| 21:39.00 | arrrghhh | perhaps the init.rc overrides user.conf? |
| 21:39.03 | emwe | i can echo just fine later on. |
| 21:40.41 | arrrghhh | yea, but every boot you'd have to echo |
| 21:41.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | you know what sucks? the fact that acoustic is broken and i don't know why is what sucks |
| 21:41.43 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:41.52 | [acl] | why the fuck i still working |
| 21:41.55 | emwe | worksforme to some extent. |
| 21:42.01 | [acl] | no one is here.. i should go home |
| 21:42.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: you need 100 mbps to fap so you must stay at work |
| 21:42.22 | emwe | perhaps the -dev branch brought some hickups for non-rhod/topa |
| 21:42.29 | arrrghhh | damnit Alex[sp3dev] |
| 21:42.31 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: you know me too well |
| 21:42.34 | [acl] | :-p |
| 21:42.36 | arrrghhh | i was going to say almost the exact same thing.. |
| 21:43.08 | arrrghhh | replace 'fap' with '1080p pr0n' and you basically have the statement i was going to make lol |
| 21:44.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | our jokes are more and more original. one day even saying 'penis' will make everyone laugh like school kids |
| 21:44.42 | arrrghhh | who says it doesn't already? :P |
| 21:45.41 | [acl] | arrrghhh: hopefully this is a one line change for userland. |
| 21:45.48 | arrrghhh | [acl], that's what i like to hear |
| 21:45.51 | [acl] | looks like this is pointing in dbfgs.. i can make it so it can prob sysfs |
| 21:45.51 | [acl] | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:46.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | does proximity sensor has anything to do with sex? |
| 21:46.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | fuck |
| 21:46.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'm illiterate |
| 21:47.29 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:48.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's like when a cool chick passes by your phone begins to vibrate, right? |
| 21:48.37 | arrrghhh | basically |
| 21:48.46 | arrrghhh | the problem is, it also vibrates if she has VD |
| 21:48.50 | arrrghhh | so it's hard to tell... |
| 21:49.15 | Cotulla | she? already she/ |
| 21:49.16 | Cotulla | ? |
| 21:49.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, i have the proximity sensor which is more like a semaphore and works even without a phone ;) |
| 21:49.20 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.24 | arrrghhh | bwhahah |
| 21:49.54 | Cass | dunno but that sounds like a cool app .. nice chick .. phone vibrates .. ugly chick .. phone reboots :) |
| 21:50.08 | Cotulla | She is cool. She has black hears. Her name is LEO. glad to meet u, LEO! |
| 21:50.09 | Cotulla | :D |
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| 21:50.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | well i guess under certain circumstances my proximity sensor can hit the power off button |
| 21:50.36 | Cotulla | lets make a new pron about love story of two LEOs |
| 21:50.47 | Cotulla | we will draw one with pink |
| 21:50.52 | Cotulla | :D |
| 21:50.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | like, a guy with leo meets a girl with leo and they fuck? |
| 21:51.21 | Cass | at that point the leo is moot |
| 21:52.01 | Cotulla | no |
| 21:52.04 | Cotulla | love story of two leos |
| 21:52.09 | Cotulla | who will look to ur variant |
| 21:52.09 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:52.09 | Cotulla | :D |
| 21:52.16 | Cotulla | pfff |
| 21:52.18 | Cass | haha |
| 21:52.23 | Cotulla | it's too ...usual |
| 21:54.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | as an alternative to vibration it can play a ringtone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOphGZZrE44 . although it is not always the best way to make friends with a girl |
| 21:54.40 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], classy |
| 21:55.39 | Cass | the rave version of lil jon |
| 21:57.23 | Cotulla | lol |
| 21:57.38 | Cotulla | epic sound |
| 21:57.39 | Cotulla | :D |
| 22:01.54 | arrrghhh | goin home, cya guys later. |
| 22:02.02 | Cass | nn |
| 22:02.10 | emwe | me too |
| 22:02.11 | emwe | night |
| 22:02.16 | Cass | nn |
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| 22:10.33 | Cass | rajko .. hows it going |
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| 22:17.05 | xf_merc | Cotulla, got your audio driver working this evening, so I just thought I oughta swing by and thank you for the work you put into it (and all the other HD2 stuffs) it's really appeciated! Nice job! |
| 22:17.44 | Cotulla | lol |
| 22:17.47 | Cotulla | u really fast |
| 22:17.56 | Cotulla | I am proud of u :P |
| 22:18.30 | Cotulla | looking to English lesson book, where he fetched "Expressions with the Verb "to be" |
| 22:18.33 | Cotulla | :D |
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| 23:13.40 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, you thar? |
| 23:15.28 | WisTilt2 | hey arrrghhh, yeah just catching up on all the changes so i know wth is what |
| 23:15.33 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 23:15.41 | arrrghhh | i was going to mention a bug you would probably be a good candidate to look at |
| 23:15.51 | rpierce99 | saw that email to the list and thought we had an imposter! |
| 23:16.00 | arrrghhh | hyc changed how the keyboard backlight code works so it fades in and out |
| 23:16.04 | WisTilt2 | lol, hi rpierce99 |
| 23:16.18 | WisTilt2 | took a long summer vacation |
| 23:16.25 | rpierce99 | sounds awesome |
| 23:16.30 | arrrghhh | and it seemingly breaks with auto brightness... as in, with auto brightness enabled, the keyboard backlight fails at random. |
| 23:17.57 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh, yeah I think I know what is causing that but need to see what all was changed when the kernel side of kbd backlight was taken out. looks like brightness from userland tells it if it should be on or off now. |
| 23:18.32 | arrrghhh | huh |
| 23:18.33 | arrrghhh | alrighty |
| 23:18.44 | arrrghhh | manual brightness also seems borked, but i think that's always been so. |
| 23:19.23 | WisTilt2 | so is bt now fully working? |
| 23:19.33 | arrrghhh | fully is such a complete kinda word... |
| 23:19.51 | arrrghhh | it's still got some hiccups. like having BT on in WinMo causes bad things in Android... |
| 23:20.02 | arrrghhh | audio doesn't route properly for most headsets |
| 23:20.06 | arrrghhh | probably half or more |
| 23:20.16 | arrrghhh | the new acoustic seems to resolve that for most tho AFAIK |
| 23:20.22 | WisTilt2 | before I left bt paired with my truck fine, switched during a call but no audio over bt at all. |
| 23:20.35 | arrrghhh | yea, pretty much the same. |
| 23:20.45 | arrrghhh | i'm betting the new acoustic code would fix it |
| 23:20.50 | arrrghhh | but i had some issues with it |
| 23:20.55 | arrrghhh | alex gave me some new hotness today tho |
| 23:20.59 | arrrghhh | still putting it thru the ringer. |
| 23:21.04 | WisTilt2 | well im going to dig into the acoustic again and see if we can make everything work |
| 23:21.12 | arrrghhh | schweet |
| 23:21.18 | arrrghhh | alex said something about the -dev tree |
| 23:21.22 | arrrghhh | and not the 'normal' tree... |
| 23:21.30 | arrrghhh | so focus on the -dev tree |
| 23:21.51 | WisTilt2 | ok will do. so he has it working now on your 400? |
| 23:22.19 | arrrghhh | oh yea |
| 23:22.29 | arrrghhh | it was working for a while |
| 23:22.41 | arrrghhh | but it still has problems, unless this new stuff fixes it |
| 23:22.43 | WisTilt2 | on .27 or just .35? |
| 23:22.49 | arrrghhh | basically all audio would die at random |
| 23:22.54 | arrrghhh | he backported it to .27 |
| 23:23.01 | arrrghhh | but it's on .35 as well. |
| 23:23.45 | WisTilt2 | nice. i'll mess with it over the next few days and see whats new. been awhile since i've looked at that code so need to come up to speed with whats current. |
| 23:24.03 | arrrghhh | TBH the userland stuff hasn't changed since june... |
| 23:24.18 | arrrghhh | i dunno where jb went, but he hasn't committed anything since then.; |
| 23:24.52 | WisTilt2 | i haven't talked to him since before i left myself. maybe he's on a long vacation too |
| 23:25.00 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 23:26.25 | WisTilt2 | jonpry still banging at it or is he back to his prypad project? i think he was coming up to the US right before I took off. |
| 23:27.02 | arrrghhh | heh, he's already back in grenada |
| 23:27.14 | arrrghhh | and he hasn't done much on XDAndroid lately |
| 23:27.22 | arrrghhh | he's been engorged in the touchpad scene... |
| 23:27.31 | WisTilt2 | damn, back on his flakey internet connection |
| 23:27.39 | arrrghhh | seems like he's doing that work kinda in parallel with his prypad work. |
| 23:27.54 | arrrghhh | yea... but i think he had a bunch of parts down in grenada, so now he can really get to work on the prypad. |
| 23:28.25 | WisTilt2 | well tablets are the new hot thing so he should do well with his prypad, especially if he can come up with some features no one else has on theirs yet. |
| 23:28.33 | arrrghhh | indeed... |
| 23:28.37 | arrrghhh | i'll buy one :D |
| 23:30.31 | WisTilt2 | i personally dont care for them. my TP2 and my laptop are just right. cant see having it all in one large device right now. |
| 23:30.42 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 23:30.56 | WisTilt2 | depends on what you do though, they are pretty cool still. |
| 23:31.10 | arrrghhh | mmmhmmm |
| 23:31.16 | arrrghhh | and i know what jonpry is capable of. |
| 23:31.24 | phh | WisTilt2: need a TP2 with a decent soc :( |
| 23:31.29 | arrrghhh | i'm sure whatever he produces as a final product is going to be interesting. |
| 23:31.33 | arrrghhh | phh, make one :P |
| 23:31.42 | phh | tss |
| 23:31.45 | arrrghhh | yea, SoC from 2007 kinda sucks. |
| 23:32.52 | arrrghhh | why can't htc make another device with this keyboard... |
| 23:32.53 | WisTilt2 | TP2 is hard to beat for its size and style but sure would be nice to have more power in it for sure. |
| 23:33.12 | arrrghhh | but yea dude. no huge revelations since you left... |
| 23:33.18 | phh | for its size ? what ? :D |
| 23:33.39 | arrrghhh | i did a maintenance release for FRX.. on 7.1 now :P |
| 23:33.40 | phh | must be the biggest ARM phone ever made |
| 23:33.43 | phh | (x86 doesn't count.) |
| 23:33.48 | arrrghhh | i think he means screen |
| 23:34.06 | WisTilt2 | yes screen size |
| 23:34.07 | arrrghhh | i say its kbd can't be beat :P but that's about it. |
| 23:34.14 | WisTilt2 | cant give up the nice kbd either |
| 23:34.21 | arrrghhh | kbd + tilt screen |
| 23:34.46 | arrrghhh | great design. i figured they'd make a bunch more phones like it... |
| 23:34.59 | arrrghhh | perhaps the tilt broke on a lot of people. i thought it would on me, but it still works great. |
| 23:35.34 | WisTilt2 | well we have 15 of them for years and none broke yet so they're built pretty well. |
| 23:35.46 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 23:35.54 | arrrghhh | HTC has pretty damn good build quality. |
| 23:35.56 | phh | it's like tc1100, someone needs to make things like that, but just with newer stuff :( |
| 23:36.27 | arrrghhh | that thing was way ahead of its time... |
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| 23:37.23 | WisTilt2 | are they doing away with kbd's in all new devices? |
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| 23:37.43 | arrrghhh | most people focus on how thin the phone is i think |
| 23:38.17 | arrrghhh | i saw a lot of people comment that the pro7 (the tp3 basically) should drop the kbd. i've also heard it's an awful kbd, so that might have something to do with it lol |
| 23:38.56 | WisTilt2 | with no kbd they will have to bring back the development of those laser projected kbd's that disappeared years ago. |
| 23:39.08 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 23:39.12 | arrrghhh | so much for haptics... |
| 23:43.17 | WisTilt2 | well guys im heading home. catch ya'll tomorrow. |
| 23:43.32 | arrrghhh | cya |
