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13:12.25d-moll~seen dcordes
13:12.36aptdcordes is currently on #htc-linux (2d 12h 52m 15s) #openmoko-cdevel (2d 12h 52m 15s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 1d 16h 15m 24s, last said: 'and the new attention span award goes tooooo: xperiauser132 .'.
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13:46.46andreas32bhi
13:47.29arrrghhhhi?
13:47.34andreas32bI'm searching for a new phone ... is there any phone with "good" linux compatibity?
13:47.43arrrghhhHD2 seems pretty popular
13:47.56arrrghhhgood specs
13:47.59arrrghhhpretty hackable
13:48.03andreas32bI tought for a tegra2 device...
13:48.14andreas32bbecause the linux4tegra project
13:48.21arrrghhhdunno then
13:48.31arrrghhhi thought that hardware was locked down
13:48.38arrrghhhtegra2
13:48.54arrrghhhalex was talking about some crazy security
13:49.02andreas32boh okay...
13:49.40arrrghhhi know very little 'bout tegra2 tho
13:49.44andreas32bthere is nothing newer than the hd2?
13:49.47arrrghhhso don't take my word as gospel
13:49.52arrrghhhlol there's many phones newer than HD2
13:50.11andreas32bhehe, i know ^^
13:50.21andreas32bbut no linux-community around it ..
13:50.44arrrghhhyea
13:50.56andreas32bokay, thanks
13:51.04arrrghhhtouchpad?  :P
13:51.32andreas32bahm...no ^^
13:51.44andreas32bsearching for a smartphone not a pad
13:55.04arrrghhhi know, i was kidding.
13:55.13arrrghhhSGSII seems popular
13:55.15arrrghhhruns
13:56.02andreas32boh the sgs2 is to expensive for me ..
13:56.45andreas32bI thought of the lg optimus 2x, because of the linux4tegra project from nvidia
13:59.26arrrghhhandreas32b, that's not too expensive? lol
14:00.39andreas32bthere is a difference of ca 180€ :/
14:00.49andreas32bI'm a Student ^^
14:00.50arrrghhhwow
14:01.02arrrghhhi didn't think the difference between those two phones would be that big.
14:01.12arrrghhhmost new phones here are $200.  doesn't seem to matter what phone.
14:01.22arrrghhhofc you have to sign your life away for 2 years, but hey.
14:02.08andreas32b200USD? wow ...
14:02.35andreas32bI was supriced about the difference to
14:03.03arrrghhhthe way phones are done here tho is very different from pretty much everywhere else from what i've gleaned talking to others.
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14:07.42andreas32bis there a tegra-expert in the htc-linux irc?
14:07.58andreas32bbecause i've seen this on xda: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1213670
14:08.48arrrghhhphh i guess
14:09.04arrrghhhsome others might be knowledgeable.  alex for example, but he's not here right now.
14:09.56andreas32bok i ask him later, thanks
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14:20.31d-molllol
14:24.22arrrghhhd-moll, what are you laughin at
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14:53.13arrrghhh[acl], what's up bro
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15:02.15[acl]arrrghhh: trying to stay awake
15:02.27[acl]fucking tired dood.. i need me a nice weekend
15:03.56[acl]i didnt even get to upload my latest video :-(
15:08.58d-mollelectron beam
15:09.00d-mollhow is it?
15:09.19[acl]d-moll: better than before thats for sure
15:09.43[acl]but im afraid tp2 lacks the horse power to really make it balls smooth :-(
15:12.39[acl]im going to share my research to the rest of the msm7k brethren .. since they have to draw less, they maight actually bennefit from all of this
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15:22.13arrrghhh[acl], nice
15:22.20arrrghhhand looooong weekend ahead, can't wait...
15:22.28[acl]arrrghhh: i gotta work a bit
15:22.35arrrghhhdamn
15:22.40[acl]plus have a date and some drinking. gonna be busy :-(
15:22.50arrrghhhour company is migrating to Outlook this weekend... but not my dept :D
15:22.53[acl]damn
15:26.46[acl]why outlook?
15:27.01arrrghhhi dunno
15:27.06arrrghhhall the cool companies are using it?
15:27.24[acl]we deploy it like hot candy but we dont use it.. :-\
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15:27.34arrrghhhlol
15:27.36arrrghhhwhat do you use?
15:27.41arrrghhhseems there aren't many choices
15:27.43[acl]google
15:27.45arrrghhhoh
15:28.02arrrghhhyea, that would be the route i would go if i was a company
15:28.09arrrghhhbut i guess we're too large to use that... meh.
15:28.15arrrghhhwe were on groupwise
15:28.22[acl]i think it depends on how you collaborate
15:28.29arrrghhhtoday will be my last day with groupwise.  i'm gonna kinda miss it.
15:28.33[acl]damn
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20:18.31Alex[sp3dev]stinebd: hey
20:21.58Alex[sp3dev]arrrghhh: arrrghhh!
20:22.08arrrghhhAlex[sp3dev], Alex[sp3dev] !
20:22.48Alex[sp3dev]arrrghhh: i have sort of ported jbruneaux acoustic and my fix to 27. can you test the kernel and libs?
20:23.00arrrghhhorly
20:23.01arrrghhhsure
20:23.07Alex[sp3dev]here is the archive http://www.mediafire.com/?hqkugtut1ifdy65
20:23.27Alex[sp3dev]copy the libs to system/lib and copy .csv files from \Windows to the root of sd card
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20:27.09DetuleAlex[sp3dev]: did you build against the most recent commits in JB's hardware tree?
20:27.20Alex[sp3dev]Detule: lemme check
20:28.38Detulei had issues with his with getting sound on .39 with his latest libs from both froyo and froyo-dev
20:29.10Detulethis on rhod400, though i may have messed something up when i was building them
20:29.16Alex[sp3dev]arrrghhh: oh damn.. looks like i have forgot one thing. you need to edit /init and fix permissions on /dev/htc_acoustic_wince since i have renamed htc-acoustic_wince to htc_acoustic_wince
20:29.59arrrghhhheh
20:30.01arrrghhhthis should be fun
20:30.09arrrghhhi probably won't be able to do this until i'm home.
20:30.21Alex[sp3dev]Detule: makefiles look broken actually, i had to fix them to build. if binaries work on at least rhod, topa and raph, i'll push the acoustic and send stinebd some other patches
20:30.38arrrghhhi can test on RAPH800 and RHOD400
20:30.51Alex[sp3dev]arrrghhh: multiple cases of strong butthurt will be following the process of integrating acoustic and updating to 35/39
20:31.02arrrghhhlol
20:31.08arrrghhhstrong butthurt eh
20:31.52arrrghhhi thought 35/39 already had the new acoustic hotness
20:32.02Detulethe kernel do
20:32.08Alex[sp3dev]arrrghhh: but we need to fix the userland
20:32.15arrrghhhyea
20:32.32Alex[sp3dev]and for 35/39, we need to port diam/raph/blac and wl1251 (which will also need userland changes)
20:32.52Alex[sp3dev]honestly android userland integration is such a PITA that porting SHR would be easier
20:33.06Alex[sp3dev]it's a new day today and the butthurt is strong
20:34.09arrrghhhoh irght
20:34.13arrrghhhright*
20:34.20arrrghhhlol
20:34.23arrrghhhSHR eh
20:34.25arrrghhhdo eeeeet
20:34.45arrrghhhi think i'd rather Android, but I've never used let alone seen SHR in action.
20:34.57arrrghhhit's built on Debian, no?
20:34.57Alex[sp3dev]arrrghhh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvjfZadHt-g
20:35.36Alex[sp3dev]arrrghhh: it's built on openembedded
20:35.40arrrghhhah
20:36.19DetuleAlex[sp3dev]: all i did for the makefiles was BUILD_LIB_HTC_ACOUSTIC_WINCE=yes and BOARD_HAVE_BLUETOOTH=yes, perhaps this is where my mistake was
20:36.24arrrghhhseems like it would be good nerd cred - but as an OS for a phone?  you really think it's better than Android as far as the end-user experience goes?
20:36.49Alex[sp3dev]arrrghhh: i think anything is better than Android as far as the end-user experience goes, even winmo
20:37.07arrrghhhi can't say i agree with you there.
20:37.12arrrghhhwinmo was atrocious.
20:37.28Alex[sp3dev]at least there was no java
20:37.59arrrghhhlol
20:38.00arrrghhhtouche.
20:38.08arrrghhhok, so from a developer standpoint SHR would be easier.
20:38.15arrrghhhbut i mean end-user.  as in idiot.  like me :D
20:38.38Alex[sp3dev]for an end-user the amount of butthurt will tend to infinity
20:38.44arrrghhhlol
20:39.58Alex[sp3dev]actually it's nowhere near usable now.. i mean, the modem stuff is ok, as well as sound routing but the UI is awful and slow now. we need to finish android first
20:43.18Alex[sp3dev]i had the case of strong b-word today. turns out my problems with wl1251 were really in the old supplicant which was locking up. on an open network it worked flawlessly.. but at least now the sdio stuff and some bugs are fixed and 35 is more usable on kovs than 27
20:44.47arrrghhhnice
20:44.55arrrghhhi want all devices on .35 now :D
20:47.39Alex[sp3dev]well, that's doable. two problems are 1. my branch is far ahead of emwe's (can be fixed if i port emwe's stuff for topa and rhod to 35 and we use it as a base for further development) and 2. we need to rewrite microp (can be done gradually but most stuff like LEDs, backlight and light sensor will be broken initially). the rest should be easy. if we integrate acoustic, i'll look into it
20:48.02arrrghhhk
20:48.10arrrghhhyea, emwe has been on vaca
20:48.15arrrghhhand was still behind when he left :P
20:48.50Alex[sp3dev]btw, having tegra is cool. i have found a cool game where you play as a bird and poop on people. and it is in 3D
20:49.15arrrghhhangry birds?
20:49.16arrrghhh:P
20:49.25Alex[sp3dev]feathers rising
20:50.18arrrghhhpoopin birds
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